Forum logs for 10 Aug 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

mircea_popescu	kinda why it's very bad "fiction" : it presents us the nonsensical construct of a lone man that's part of the british empire.	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	for obvious ideological reasons, but anyway.	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	a brick falling is definitely managed.	[00:00]
asciilifeform	or what, i sit and write a sorter, and so i'm being managed by kerr knuth!?	[00:00]
asciilifeform	what honour!	[00:00]
asciilifeform	but i do not think this corresponds to the generally-understood meaning of the word 'management'	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	would you have wriutten the same sorter without him ?	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	depends generally understood by whom.	[00:00]
asciilifeform	conceivably. but would not be so tall without 'giant's shoulders'	[00:01]
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mircea_popescu	!up dbit	[00:01]
-assbot-	You voiced dbit for 30 minutes.	[00:01]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform management as generally understood say by dilbert's strip is a sort of dour nagging.	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	management can also be understood as creation of proper schelling points	[00:02]
asciilifeform	i like to think of the more positive, stalin sense	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	(it's the view i moistly take)	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	and yes, that also.	[00:02]
dbit	mircea_popescu, can I have a Eulora account?	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	!rated dbit	[00:02]
assbot	dbit is not registered in WoT.	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	get in the wot first eh.	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	!h	[00:03]
assbot	http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	^ see first steps article there	[00:03]
dbit	ok	[00:03]
mike_c	;;rated dbit	[00:03]
gribble	You rated user dbit on Mon Jul 28 12:01:35 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: None.	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform but i mean... you wouldn't propose the alarm clock is a manager would you.	[00:04]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: if http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233014 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233009 then 'management' and 'programming skill' are entirely one and the same thing in that field.	[00:04]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 03:02:39; mircea_popescu: management can also be understood as creation of proper schelling points	[00:04]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 03:00:47; mircea_popescu: would you have wriutten the same sorter without him ?	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	the derps may call it "A time management device", but hey.	[00:04]
asciilifeform	in that one creates artifacts that become foundational for future people.	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	dbit oh if you already have a key just need it passed to assbot	[00:04]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i suspect you misnomer management as "programming skill"	[00:04]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: actually i happen to regard the alarm clock as the single most destructively irritating thing in my entire existence	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	programming skill is necessarily "having preloaded in your head which words make bash not do this particular stupid thing"	[00:05]
asciilifeform	that's rather like saying that 'literary skill is good penmanship'	[00:06]
asciilifeform	yes, related. no, not equivalent.	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	there is definitely a lot of management involved in being a competent computer handler, by the nature of the thing	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	i guess this resolves our standing dispute re whores/programmers. turns out it was a misunderstanding.	[00:07]
asciilifeform	not sure if involved. at least in the usual sense. thing isn't a horse, or dog, more like a very ill-tuned piano	[00:08]
asciilifeform	it doesn't respond to incentives	[00:08]
asciilifeform	only massaging	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	management is not psychiatry.	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	you manage factories (also ill tuned pianos) not individual women on their period.	[00:09]
asciilifeform	but if your colleagues are insane ?	[00:09]
asciilifeform	then - psychiatry.	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	everything bleeds over a little, but still./	[00:09]
asciilifeform	aaaaaaaaaaand....	[00:12]
asciilifeform	http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1C37B216D569982CD4D18802D703548E1A352C5E3C3F6057CEC02FFAFF9C8ABD	[00:12]
asciilifeform	gcd==141733920801; Luciano Buszmicz (Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.) ;	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	lol did you manage talking lobbes into letting you do these by hand ?	[00:13]
asciilifeform	;;later tell lobbes can we has the bot back plz ?	[00:13]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[00:13]
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hanbot	the ml patching guide (http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000067.html) step 0x07] Clean Source Base involves manifests which i take it are part of the guide's referenced patch tarballs. given the stator patch battery is single .patch file only, how's one to handle this step (and why does guide assume patch will come in ball?)?	[00:14]
asciilifeform	mod6 ?	[00:15]
*	asciilifeform had no part in writing the linked recipe	[00:15]
asciilifeform	and hanbot did you notice that this guide long pre-dates stator ?	[00:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00063094 = 3.0285 BTC [+] {2}	[00:16]
hanbot	i did. is there a new&improved patching guide? i missed it if so	[00:16]
asciilifeform	i am unaware of it	[00:17]
asciilifeform	unless the automatic script created by ben_vulpes is one	[00:17]
asciilifeform	(i have not, unfortunately, tested the latter)	[00:17]
asciilifeform	and there is this, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000140.html by mod6	[00:18]
assbot	[BTC-dev] UPDATE: v0.5.4-TEST2 Pre-patched Test Bundle : Testers Needed! ... ( http://bit.ly/1DEslTm )	[00:18]
asciilifeform	but not a patching guide, rather, patches were applied. but it tells you which, and you can obtain previous release tarball, apply them yourself, and compare the result.	[00:19]
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hanbot	i think ben_vulpes' thingy was solely for dependencies + release, sans patching, could be wrong.	[00:19]
hanbot	i'll have a look at the test2 bit.	[00:20]
asciilifeform	hanbot: what are you trying to build ?	[00:20]
asciilifeform	i might be able to help	[00:20]
dbit	!register DEF6F884324D1E384DC09C97F2CBD75211F125B2	[00:22]
assbot	Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: DEF6F884324D1E384DC09C97F2CBD75211F125B2. This may take a few moments.	[00:22]
assbot	Key 11F125B2 / "David Cirello " successfully imported.	[00:22]
assbot	Registration successful.	[00:22]
hanbot	still want to build stator, "manually": 0.5.3.1 release + six-patch battery required to achieve stator. verified release will run on my (32bit) ubuntu box w/ mod6. so now, patching (for which i was following said guide, all six patches sha1sum & sig verified)	[00:22]
dbit	!up	[00:23]
dbit	!up dbit	[00:23]
trinque	dbit: /msg assbot !up	[00:23]
trinque	but you already are.	[00:23]
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dbit	mircea_popescu, ok I got registered	[00:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36703 @ 0.00063095 = 23.1578 BTC [+] {3}	[00:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10441 @ 0.00063093 = 6.5875 BTC [-]	[00:35]
ben_vulpes	hanbot: yes, fails spectacularly to produce a bitcoin and makes the operator take over patching at that point.	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	ok dbit one sec	[00:36]
ben_vulpes	provides, however, all tools to compile bitcoin	[00:37]
ben_vulpes	kicking off a new run, phf	[00:37]
phf	ben_vulpes: one sec, i almost pushed another patch	[00:37]
ben_vulpes	ah shoot	[00:37]
ben_vulpes	and by 'kicking off' i mean 'kicked off 2 minutes ago and was distracted by lawgz'	[00:38]
phf	haha	[00:38]
ben_vulpes	anyways, hit me up when you push your patch	[00:38]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: i did eventually succeed with the rotor/stator combo	[00:40]
phf	a build process tool, relaytool, used in some ungodly way to produce a dynamic libraries during build. uses bash to work and is so specified in #!... configure wants to run it by explicitly providing bash /bin/bash ./bin/relaytool. somehow doesn't detect bash, so calls /bin/sh instead, which puts bash in sh emulation mode and breaks relaytool. this, and much more, in todays adventures with eulora builds!	[00:41]
ben_vulpes	phf: http://how-i-feel-rn.shithouse.tv/	[00:41]
assbot	how-i-feel-rn ... ( http://bit.ly/1TiZu95 )	[00:41]
phf	this is sasha grey level of whoring programmer/whore depravity	[00:42]
ben_vulpes	you like it	[00:42]
ben_vulpes	don't lie	[00:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21189 @ 0.00062635 = 13.2717 BTC [-] {3}	[00:43]
ben_vulpes	programmering is beyond learned helplessness	[00:43]
ben_vulpes	it's learned masochism	[00:43]
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mircea_popescu	dbit http://dpaste.com/2QT18RW	[00:44]
assbot	dpaste: 2QT18RW ... ( http://bit.ly/1TiZFRQ )	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	ima meet you in game in a bit give you some starter stuff.	[00:44]
dbit	thank you	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	!rate dbit 1 Eulorian	[00:45]
assbot	Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/d0fff3d78fd1c01c	[00:45]
phf	oh right 9pm on west coast	[00:45]
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mircea_popescu	!v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.dbit.1:f9c0e65452e21e9f222864a8a209c03aa4eb166fdcc2e374893948aae2f71014	[00:45]
assbot	Successfully added a rating of 1 for dbit with note: Eulorian	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	phf nuts omg.	[00:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00061622 = 6.0081 BTC [-]	[01:02]
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phf	gernika, ben_vulpes: new patch, 7129357156859d81c987e210d26ba552fdc49350	[01:11]
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mod6	hanbot: yeah, the guide needs to be updated. It's on the to-do list, just had my hands full lately. I can help you get patched up from v0.5.3.1 if you like. We can work on that this week.	[01:22]
mod6	Meanwhile, I can offer you a script that I use to patch up through maxint_locks_corrected from v0.5.3.1 -- it's not a guide, but if you read the steps, it's what needs to happen and in what order. The new (forthcoming) guide will be based on these steps: http://dpaste.com/0YVSD6Q.txt	[01:26]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1gruaIF )	[01:26]
mod6	I'm going to be afk for the rest of the night, but I can perhaps talk about it with you tomorrow.	[01:27]
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hanbot	mod6 awesome, ty for the script, will check it out!	[01:38]
danielpbarron	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1232890 << 1st from archive's point of view https://archive.is/76hSK	[01:42]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 01:34:01; mircea_popescu: is it just me or is trilema actually the 4th result for pay for your tits	[01:42]
assbot	pay for your tits - Google Search ... ( http://bit.ly/1grw8IZ )	[01:42]
danielpbarron	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213181 << I'd like to transition my twitter bashing of this channel to my own blog, and would like it to be hosted by that BISP thing but not directly, like rent out some space on someone else's thingy. Is this a possibility yet?	[01:42]
assbot	Logged on 26-07-2015 15:35:35; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213082 << did the summarizer of #b-a logs go anywhere ?	[01:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00061622 = 4.8065 BTC [-]	[01:43]
gernika	phf looks like cs built!	[01:46]
phf	woot	[01:46]
danielpbarron	!up coderwill	[01:49]
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danielpbarron	!gettrust assbot coderwill	[01:49]
assbot	Trust relationship from user assbot to user coderwill: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=coderwill \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/coderwill/	[01:49]
coderwill	thanks	[01:50]
danielpbarron	try verifying it here	[01:50]
coderwill	i was switching my nick, maybe that had something to do w/ it.	[01:50]
gernika	phf: eulora build failed: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/logs-1439182301.tar.gz	[01:53]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1grxp2P )	[01:53]
phf	final boss	[01:53]
coderwill	danielpbarron:	[01:56]
coderwill	when you said "verify" did you mean try to !up again?	[01:56]
coderwill	side note - saw citizenfour last night. am having trouble grasping how high school drop-out supposedly gained access to all kinds of stuff across all kinds of platforms by the age of 29. somethings seems off w/ that whole thing.	[02:00]
coderwill	...not that there is anything wrong w/ dropping out of any sort of educational system.	[02:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00062224 = 19.165 BTC [+] {3}	[02:09]
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mircea_popescu	danielpbarron i dunno that anyone does that yet	[02:38]
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wilbns	sorry for all that	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	the notion that "all kinds of stuff over all kinds of platforms" is in any sense locked down's amiss.	[02:43]
wilbns	danielpbarron: thanks for trying to help me	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	someone could also shoot a bunch of people by the time they're 29.	[02:43]
phf	gernika: why not relax with a new eulora build formula?	[02:44]
*	mircea_popescu wonders how many people implemented a "textual replacement lisp interpreter" in bash/perl/php just to bother their sicp prof.	[02:44]
wilbns	mircea_popescu: it just seemed like something was/is a bit strange about the whole ordeal	[02:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.00062441 = 24.3208 BTC [+] {4}	[02:49]
phf	that seems like an artisan level troll	[02:54]
wilbns	BingoBoingo: You mentioned the other day about "how could anyone trust Greenwald" - I think I missed something there. What did he do?	[02:55]
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punkman	http://browsers.evolt.org/	[02:57]
assbot	\| browsers.evolt.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1ISlAJS )	[02:57]
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punkman	;;ticker	[03:24]
gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 265.99, Best ask: 266.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 266.0, 24 hour volume: 16462.09261698, 24 hour low: 261.63, 24 hour high: 267.6, 24 hour vwap: None	[03:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34454 @ 0.00063192 = 21.7722 BTC [+]	[03:35]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo: You mentioned the other day about "how could anyone trust Greenwald" - I think I missed something there. What did he do? << His body language, his carriage, when he does and doesn't express discomfort. Coincidences between Greenwald finding things out and things going to shit...	[03:37]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26390 @ 0.00063191 = 16.6761 BTC [-] {3}	[04:47]
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shinohai	;;ticker	[04:58]
gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 264.95, Best ask: 264.96, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 264.96, 24 hour volume: 15841.2556001, 24 hour low: 261.63, 24 hour high: 267.6, 24 hour vwap: None	[04:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46647 @ 0.00061538 = 28.7056 BTC [-] {5}	[05:03]
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shinohai	!up TRS80_	[05:10]
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shinohai	$phuctor 2	[05:10]
TRS80_	shinohai: 2015-08-10T08:10:23+0000: Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Thomas Hofmann ; ) \| 2015-08-10T08:10:23+0000: Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Julia Reda ; ) (1 more message)	[05:10]
shinohai	$more	[05:10]
TRS80_	shinohai:	[05:10]
shinohai	^ new ones O.o	[05:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00063342 = 10.7048 BTC [+]	[05:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00060795 = 32.6469 BTC [-] {5}	[05:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16778 @ 0.00063342 = 10.6275 BTC [+]	[05:24]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1232890 #2 down under	[05:27]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 01:34:01; mircea_popescu: is it just me or is trilema actually the 4th result for pay for your tits	[05:27]
BingoBoingo	http://qntra.net/2015/08/zynga-continues-bleeding/	[05:28]
assbot	Zynga Continues Bleeding \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MXrD6R )	[05:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95418 @ 0.00060257 = 57.496 BTC [-] {5}	[05:35]
shinohai	http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/families-sa-paedophile-shannon-mccoole-sentenced-to-35-years-in-jail-for-horrific-sexual-abuse-of-children-in-care/story-fni6uo1m-1227474133348	[05:35]
assbot	No Cookies \| The Advertiser ... ( http://bit.ly/1MXshkT )	[05:35]
shinohai	^ Gets less time than DPR.	[05:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23542 @ 0.00063342 = 14.912 BTC [+]	[05:59]
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cazalla	shinohai, prob the tip of the iceberg, i assume a lot of paedos work in such professions	[06:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00062827 = 6.0942 BTC [-]	[06:06]
punkman	everyone gets less time than DPR	[06:08]
shinohai	I'm just smh at the state of priorities in the "Criminal Justice System".	[06:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062827 = 4.4293 BTC [-]	[06:08]
cazalla	a lot of thieving goes on in those government homes for disabled people down under too.. the clients get welfare and from that the care takers pocket chunks of it by claiming they spent more than they did ($5 lunch becomes $15 lunch type of shit)	[06:09]
shinohai	That was the premise for an episode of "Better Call Saul". Happens quite often here in teh US too.	[06:10]
punkman	it's a common scam	[06:11]
shinohai	Of course, I'm not a senior but was quite outraged at the cost of everyday items my last hospital stay.	[06:12]
shinohai	$100 for some goddamned kleenex	[06:13]
punkman	greece hasn't reach that level of ridiculousness yet, but all hospital supplies are way overpriced	[06:13]
shinohai	It's cheaper for me to hire a private nurse. I get better care and don't have to be in a filthy hospital.	[06:15]
punkman	they just came out with "food stamps" in the form of ATM cards reloaded monthly with 70-200eur	[06:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00060978 = 27.1352 BTC [-] {2}	[06:18]
punkman	and apparently they've spent about 10mil euros in 11 days through the cards	[06:19]
shinohai	There is a whole black market (pun intended) for food stamps/drugs here.	[06:21]
cazalla	shinohai, a stay in hospital is pretty well subsidised here if you go public and don't mind the total lack of service, or you can go private (we don't really have pre-existing condition stuff here.. if you take out private health insurance, any pre-existing condition is covered after 12 months)	[06:21]
BingoBoingo	http://imagehaul.com/thehauls/f425941a9fa87cc472c38fe5418c0b2837cc6405.jpg	[06:22]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1ISDiwP )	[06:22]
shinohai	LOLZ	[06:23]
punkman	heh	[06:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15899 @ 0.00060582 = 9.6319 BTC [-]	[06:23]
shinohai	http://40.media.tumblr.com/5c7beee60375c2c2f0557414fd61e1cc/tumblr_myzddryn2l1ritdbzo1_500.png	[06:23]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1ISDw6Z )	[06:23]
shinohai	Also, this shit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1148679.0	[06:27]
assbot	DOWNLOAD: Bitcoin XT 0.11A is now released (bigger blocks support) ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdBolo )	[06:27]
punkman	who's the icebreaker fellow	[06:32]
Naphex	shinohai: roflmao :]	[06:32]
shinohai	I dunno, but I like his style	[06:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84350 @ 0.00063433 = 53.5057 BTC [+] {5}	[06:36]
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cazalla	you'd think hearn and co would at least put up a few dozen extra xt nodes to fool people into thinking the mass of /r/bitcoin posts demanding xt discussion are legit	[06:41]
shinohai	http://xtnodes.com/ still shows only ~125	[06:44]
assbot	XTnodes.com - Bitcoin XT Nodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1U879cH )	[06:44]
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oglafbot	http://oglaf.com/leverage/	[06:50]
assbot	Leverage ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdIGpq )	[06:50]
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cazalla	zzz 6am start :	[06:53]
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kakobrekla	programmers	[07:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104600 @ 0.0006379 = 66.7243 BTC [+] {6}	[07:37]
BingoBoingo	Pro-Grammar	[07:39]
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shinohai	I'm Pro-Hammer	[07:41]
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shinohai	http://www.businessinsider.com/berkshire-hathaway-to-buy-precision-castparts-2015-8 O.o	[08:20]
assbot	Berkshire Hathaway to buy Precision Castparts - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1ht6q7P )	[08:20]
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shinohai	http://3dprint.com/87970/liberator-injunction-denied/	[10:36]
assbot	Cody Wilson Denied Requested Injunction in His Ongoing 3D Printed Gun Lawsuit - 3DPrint.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1NlhzSc )	[10:36]
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funkenstein_	The full orchestra! :) Fedora-20-x64	[11:35]
shinohai	o/	[11:35]
funkenstein_	TEST2 script took some of the fun out of it, thing has the gameplay of "progress quest"	[11:36]
gernika	phf: eulora built! Crashes though: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/crashdump.txt	[11:37]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1IZuBoE )	[11:37]
gernika	;;later tell phf eulora built! Crashes though: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/crashdump.txt	[11:37]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[11:37]
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funkenstein_	Bundesministerium für Landesverteidigung und Sport <-- doesn't seem an obvious target of diddled crypto	[11:42]
funkenstein_	"the State Department’s order to remove the digital files of his 3D printable handgun from his website" <-- good strategy. Fight the enemy over their demand for time machine, keep them busy and away from live targets	[11:45]
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funkenstein_	I think they should publish on court website exactly the number which they forbid to be published just so we all know not to publish it	[11:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.00060595 = 23.8138 BTC [+] {5}	[11:49]
shinohai	xD	[11:49]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/man-shot-by-police-in-ferguson-after-he-fired-at/article_baaf86fd-2de0-53a7-b840-1941159aa5c7.html http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/two-teens-walking-near-michael-brown-memorial-wounded-in-ferguson/article_5856e193-045f-5bf7-80c9-e0a96c621baf.html	[12:18]
assbot	Man shot by police in Ferguson after he fired at officers, police say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MY5Yvo )	[12:18]
assbot	Two teens walking near Michael Brown memorial wounded in Ferguson drive-by shooting : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MY606o )	[12:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58602 @ 0.00059009 = 34.5805 BTC [-] {6}	[12:32]
shinohai	Ferguson burns down in 3...2..1	[12:34]
wilbns	BingoBoingo: thanks for following-up... yeah, some stuff did seem a little strange w/ greenwald. also, not sure if you perceived this, but from my perspective, parts of the doc seemed a little scripted or rehearsed.	[12:34]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233251 << congrats funkenstein_ !	[12:54]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 14:35:19; funkenstein_: The full orchestra! :) Fedora-20-x64	[12:54]
shinohai	ascii_field: mod6 and I having an unusual bug on Ubuntu 14.04 http://dpaste.com/1PCQ44J.txt	[12:59]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KZTu31 )	[12:59]
shinohai	!up n6	[12:59]
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n6	ascii_field: we talked about DETERMINISTIC builds the other day would that be somehting like Distcc too on gentoo where you can build something on x86 for arm?	[13:02]
n6	let me rephrase, that doesn't make any sense sorry.	[13:03]
shinohai	Something like that, though I still can't make cross-compilation work. I'm not the wizard ascii_field is.	[13:04]
ascii_field	shinohai: i don't see an error	[13:05]
ascii_field	i see harmless -Wall barf	[13:05]
ascii_field	n6, shinohai: search the ml for 'pogotron'. yes, buildroot builds for arm, mips, whatever	[13:06]
n6	ascii_field: I want to build gentoo using a x86 but for an armv7a, using something like distcc? would that make the builds DETERMINISTIC since everything you would need would be included?	[13:06]
ascii_field	see above	[13:06]
n6	what does ml mean here?	[13:06]
ascii_field	i posted a working example of this months ago	[13:07]
shinohai	mod6 says it builds a binary but won't run. As soon as mine completes I'll confirm.	[13:07]
ascii_field	n6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html	[13:07]
assbot	[BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca )	[13:07]
shinohai	I did the pogotron thing and still wound up with a x86 binary	[13:07]
ascii_field	prolly didn't copy the config	[13:07]
ascii_field	otherwise can't fathom how.	[13:07]
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phf	!up ascii_field	[13:09]
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phf	gernika: can you also give me a log of $(eulora_brew --prefix eulora)/euclient.app/Contents/MacOS/euclient > euclient-run.log 2>&1	[13:11]
phf	err, $(brew --prefix eulora)/euclient.app/Contents/MacOS/euclient > euclient-run.log 2>&1	[13:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00058836 = 14.4442 BTC [-] {2}	[13:12]
n6	ascii_field: why should I check both sigs here, and how?	[13:13]
ascii_field	n6: please do your homework	[13:16]
ascii_field	n6: i.e. 'why to check sigs' is a question you should be able to answer	[13:16]
n6	ascii_field: yea this gentoo thing has me under a lot of pressure, working on going down a more sane path today. Homework first then attack the problem, last few days tried attacking first and it hasnt worked out.	[13:20]
ascii_field	n6: relax.	[13:20]
shinohai	If you have to ask "why check sigs" then I can't even begin ....	[13:21]
n6	ascii_field: How do I check his key here? Only see yours.	[13:23]
ascii_field	download a copy of the key	[13:23]
ascii_field	(from sks, for example)	[13:23]
ascii_field	can also use gpg --recv-key [keyid]	[13:24]
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n6	thanks thats what I was looking for.	[13:26]
n6	ascii_field: tried to import your key to just to test and get http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ	[13:27]
assbot	dpaste: 3VRBYWJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXnVL )	[13:27]
ascii_field	use gpg 1.4	[13:28]
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ascii_field	;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ << lulzy	[13:28]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[13:28]
assbot	dpaste: 3VRBYWJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXnVL )	[13:28]
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shinohai	kek	[13:29]
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n6	ascii_field: The only way to get that for OS X is to build from source using https://www.gnupg.org/download/ ?	[13:32]
assbot	GnuPG - Download ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXWyM )	[13:32]
ascii_field	n6: or use 'ports', or 'fink'	[13:32]
ascii_field	or get a real computer	[13:32]
n6	I'm working on the real computer thing, its a long road.	[13:32]
mircea_popescu	nuts that it should be.	[13:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42431 @ 0.00060953 = 25.863 BTC [+] {3}	[13:33]
ascii_field	kina like when you had to build own airplane	[13:33]
ascii_field	where did anyone get the idea that this is 'easy' and 'friendly' ?	[13:34]
n6	My wings keep falling off.	[13:34]
punkman	n6, you could also just fix your gpg config	[13:35]
ascii_field	obligatory:	[13:35]
ascii_field	'I'm positively _delighted_ that I can buy consumer products so cheaply and so conveniently, but -- get this -- I'm not in the business of making microwave ovens or wine glasses or books or speakers, but I _do_ expect those who _are_ to have professional tools, so I can buy consumer goods inexpensively with moderately high quality. I don't _want_ Joe Blows' Homemade Microwave Oven, OK?'	[13:35]
ascii_field	( http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3065132899827911@naggum.no.html )	[13:35]
assbot	Re: Why lisp failed in the marketplace - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZYmW2 )	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field get out. by the time oil was a central commodity to civilisation for fifty years, it was trivial to get an engine deployed to spec. TO SPEC!!!11	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	by the time electricity was a central commodity, idem.	[13:36]
ascii_field	well yes.	[13:36]
ascii_field	but this time was different.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	fucking computation has to be special because all the fucktards wanna be important in their own heads and power range around	[13:36]
ascii_field	the tech did not grow up.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	it was different because libertards.	[13:36]
shinohai	https://i.imgur.com/pVvgyly.jpg	[13:36]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KZYxAH )	[13:36]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: if only.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	which btw, reminds me i came up with an excellent slogan to inhibit the cancer.	[13:36]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: also because the relevant tech simply did not mature	[13:36]
ascii_field	we're still at the point of the marginal steam-engine planes of 1898	[13:37]
ascii_field	that kind sorta lift off the ground, if no wind	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	whenever you run across one of these "software projects" in bootstrap/qt/whatever the fuck tell them "This is not programming, this is hogramming. Be a pro, don't be a ho."	[13:37]
ascii_field	and go up twenty metres and fall apart	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	because srsly, pros before hos.	[13:37]
*	mircea_popescu is half tempted to buy github, turn it off and just display that page everywhere.	[13:38]
ascii_field	^ mega-pr0ject	[13:38]
n6	ascii_field: installed ports but still don't see path to gpg infact don't even see a "port" command used https://www.macports.org/install.php "OS X 10.10 Yosemite"	[13:38]
ascii_field	after that let's buy whitehouse and open pay toilet	[13:38]
assbot	The MacPorts Project -- Download & Installation ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZYNQa )	[13:38]
mircea_popescu	whitehouse you don't buy, you take.	[13:38]
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mircea_popescu	but the general plan is sound. make the place into public urinal.	[13:39]
ascii_field	su had this down to an art	[13:39]
ascii_field	there was a glorious pay toilet across the street from where i grew up	[13:39]
ascii_field	where a cathedral once stood	[13:39]
ascii_field	then the twerps took over in '90s and rebuilt cathedral, aha	[13:39]
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gernika	phf: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/euclient-run.log	[13:42]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DHExCY )	[13:42]
shinohai	!up ascii_field	[13:42]
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n6	ascii_field: I'm install it from the app store.. they don't even have a progress bar hope its installing.	[13:47]
n6	(xcode)	[13:47]
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ascii_field	^ !	[13:47]
ascii_field	for fucks sake	[13:47]
n6	ascii_field: anyway I can check to see if its downloading using unix tools and the command line?	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	appstore gpg ?!	[13:52]
chetty	oi vey	[13:52]
ascii_field	http://qntra.net/2015/08/zynga-continues-bleeding/#comment-39432 << interesting	[13:57]
assbot	Zynga Continues Bleeding \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHGuzg )	[13:57]
n6	mircea_popescu: appstore dev tools 2.6gb and no progress bar. going for 6.4 off the website hope the command line tools just installed for later version don't fuck me.	[13:57]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[14:16]
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phf	for the record i think a secure and verifiable path for receiving a key of person in wot is to ssl connect to freenode using explicit server key, request !shasum wot from assbot, download http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/wot/wot_users.sql.gz, verify its shasum, do `zgrep -oE '([^)]+phf[^)]+)' wot_users.sql.gz` (or whatever nick), the second number in the grep output is going to be the key fingerprint, next grep --recv-key	[14:16]
assbot	404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tl3k1m )	[14:16]
ascii_field	http://www.codeword.xyz/2015/08/09/exploiting-android-users-for-fun-and-profit	[14:16]
assbot	Exploiting Android Users for Fun and Profit \| The Code Word ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tl3llZ )	[14:16]
ascii_field	'The stuff I worked on in that job was complete horseshit. It provided absolutely zero value to anybody. It existed and was expressly optimized for the sole purpose of exploiting non-tech-savvy computer users to generate undeserved profits.'	[14:16]
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punkman	why undeserved?	[14:18]
phf	*gpg --recv-key	[14:19]
diametric	punkman: the people paying his employer for their ad services were not getting return on those ads.	[14:21]
phf	the first part of that process is dodgiest, since there's no way to ensure that it's assbot that's handing out shasums	[14:21]
punkman	diametric: maybe	[14:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42476 @ 0.00059619 = 25.3238 BTC [-] {3}	[14:35]
trinque	!up n6	[14:38]
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trinque	phf: might be nice to make a deed of a big wad of public keys	[14:39]
trinque	someone who went to the conference and signed them, for example	[14:40]
n6	anyone here used flink? Do I want to build all packages locally or is using binary distribution going to work ok for gpg?	[14:41]
punkman	compiling your own gpg won't fix your problem	[14:41]
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shinohai	http://redd.it/3gdad5 <<< genial	[14:45]
assbot	[META] On hardforking: If Bitcoin is so vulnerable to reddit posts and a man who codes in the open, that it requires censorship to stay safe, perhaps it is destined for doom after all. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tl9kHI )	[14:45]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[14:48]
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ascii_field	shinohai: gotta love the tards - thief screams 'stop, thief'	[14:49]
ascii_field	mike hearn as a courageous fighter against nsa !	[14:49]
ascii_field	'stand up against crippled 1mb coin!'	[14:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37918 @ 0.00062336 = 23.6366 BTC [+] {2}	[14:51]
shinohai	pffft	[14:51]
shinohai	"we'll make our own bitcoin, with blackjack and hookers."	[14:53]
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trinque	so, /r/bitcoin has an anti-XT mod?	[14:55]
trinque	that at least is surprising	[14:55]
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shinohai	I am surprised that theymos is supposedly calling XT and altcoin.	[14:59]
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trinque	interesting; fine gentlemen right here made that case what, months ago?	[15:02]
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shinohai	http://blog.lifars.com/2015/08/10/microsoft-raises-bug-bounty-program-reward-to-100000/	[15:05]
assbot	Microsoft Raises Bug Bounty Program Reward to $100,000! \| LIFARS ... ( http://bit.ly/1TldNdq )	[15:05]
shinohai	^ Windows 10 is one big bug, pay me pl0x	[15:05]
trinque	heh, then they turn around and sell them to the govt at a handsome profit?	[15:08]
trinque	nice business microsoft has there	[15:08]
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mats	this is a good move on microsoft's part	[15:11]
trinque	sure, but I have to give them shit.	[15:12]
Adlai	wywialm: https://quedex.net/doc/margins#liquidation "all your your open positions"	[15:13]
assbot	Quedex Bitcoin Derivatives Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1DD4fZE )	[15:13]
mats	yes, i know, everyone in #b-a is edgy	[15:14]
trinque	oh stahp	[15:14]
trinque	making fun of microsoft is edgy now?	[15:14]
shinohai	https://i.imgur.com/41G8spw.png <<< how 2 defeat Microsoft/NSA	[15:14]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DD4pjy )	[15:14]
trinque	but if we must have an adult conversation, Nadella at least seems like he's making changes	[15:15]
trinque	shinohai: now that's edgy	[15:16]
shinohai	^^	[15:16]
mircea_popescu	phf alternatively you can just download a possibly dirty key, use it, then once you get to know the person ask them to verify it	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	if you find it doesn't match you got a good story for a blogpost.	[15:18]
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mircea_popescu	punkman the entire "online ad" industry is fundamentally predicated on "we can sell bot traffic to idiots"	[15:19]
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mircea_popescu	how the fuck is bitcoin vulnerable to reddit posts ?	[15:20]
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mircea_popescu	the twerps drinking their own splooge again ?	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field kinda old & stale by now, but hey, if it's all they got... it's all they got.	[15:20]
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wywialm	Adlai, unfortunately, yes - there is much room for improvements and we hope to add more forgiving liquidation scheme before or soon after real launch	[15:22]
wywialm	i thought that it is better to publish the exchange as soon as bossible to collect feedback such as yours	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	incidentally, no, that is the correct approach.	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	if you get liquidated, you get liquidated for everything you own	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	and, ideally, you're not allowed back in, either.	[15:23]
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mircea_popescu	so don't get liquidated.	[15:23]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3006 @ 0.00062128 = 1.8676 BTC [-]	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	it is not the exchange's job to manage people's capital allocation.	[15:23]
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mircea_popescu	it IS the exchange's job to punish the incompetent wannabes.	[15:24]
wywialm	mircea_popescu, well, that is insightful - i would be very glad if speculators acknowledged this	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	they'll acknowledge it just as soon as they don't have an option.	[15:25]
wywialm	you definitely made me think twice on this issue	[15:25]
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mircea_popescu	as a matter of principle - modern finance is mostly a bunch of entitled imbeciles trying for the lowest-effort approach. ideally, if they could just open a sack and money fell in kthx.	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	ther problem with this is that the actual work keeps being pushed on things that can't actually do it.	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	it's unsanitary - to make money you gotta do something useful.	[15:27]
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mircea_popescu	if you don't really want to do anything, go webcam.	[15:27]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[15:27]
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ascii_field	to make money you gotta do something useful. << orly	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[15:27]
ascii_field	on mircea_popescu's planet, perhaps	[15:28]
ascii_field	on mine, big money is made, 999 times of 1000, by theft or scam.	[15:28]
mircea_popescu	looky here : copybook headings aren't gonna change through human effort. be it positive "har har, we're so good" or negative "har har, i'm a cynicist so this works now".	[15:28]
trinque	if you gain dollars, but lose purchasing power, are you making money?	[15:28]
mircea_popescu	it just doesn't work that way.	[15:28]
Adlai	wywialm: i'm not complaining about the scheme, but rather the copyediting :)	[15:28]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field you're roughly doing the equivalent to the "black supremacy" captioning you know.	[15:28]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: nobody cancelled thermodynamics, sure.	[15:29]
wywialm	mircea_popescu, yes, you are right - Quedex has issues that are more urgent than making mismanagement of risk pleasant	[15:29]
mircea_popescu	nobody cancelled thermodynamics and the worst thing you can do with your head is chase local maxima.	[15:29]
mircea_popescu	yeah, im sure in some soap bubble somehwere picket fences works!!1	[15:29]
ascii_field	except that this is why living things even ~have~ heads	[15:29]
mircea_popescu	who cares ? srsly. who ?	[15:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00061195 = 24.6616 BTC [-]	[15:29]
ascii_field	to chase maxima.	[15:29]
mircea_popescu	yes. so ?	[15:29]
mircea_popescu	difference between humans and lions is that humans chase global maxima	[15:30]
wywialm	Adlai, oh, i didn't even notice - thanks for that!	[15:30]
ascii_field	picket fence ?	[15:30]
mircea_popescu	lions just get shot.	[15:30]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field the usian ideal thing.	[15:30]
mircea_popescu	which is not either ideal or even desirable.	[15:30]
ascii_field	hm	[15:30]
ascii_field	ideal as in it keeps the indians out ?	[15:30]
mircea_popescu	;;google picket fences	[15:30]
ascii_field	or am i confusing fences	[15:30]
gribble	Picket Fences (TV Series 1992–1996) - IMDb: ; Picket Fences - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Picket Fences - TV.com:	[15:30]
ascii_field	'The series follows the lives of the residents of the small town of Rome, Wisconsin, where weird things happen, including cows' udders exploding and a spate of people turning up dead in freezers. Struggling to maintain order in the community is Sheriff Jimmy Brock...'	[15:31]
ascii_field	l0l	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	check it out they made a show	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	before fucking tv executives tried to turn it into money, the expression denoted the sort of crammed, unsanitary, sexually repressed housing usians lived in post ww2 and brtught up the boomers.	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	"suburbia", the 1960s variant.	[15:31]
ascii_field	ah - levittowns.	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	right	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	where "the graudate" happened.	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	ten thousand billion times.	[15:32]
ascii_field	them!	[15:32]
ascii_field	cult period in usa	[15:32]
ascii_field	like the early '80s in su, with caviar and japanese tape decks	[15:33]
ascii_field	mega-nostalgiatron	[15:33]
mircea_popescu	utter trash, too.	[15:33]
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ascii_field	to folks growing up in shit, 'trash' is an upgrade	[15:34]
mircea_popescu	quite exactly.	[15:34]
mircea_popescu	"you can take the girl out of the trash, but you can't take the trash out of the girl principally because she perceives all the alternatives are shit"	[15:35]
trinque	now you've got: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/1168/9749/8m/media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/mcmansion-subdivision.jpg	[15:35]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1PgYhPh )	[15:35]
shinohai	McMansions	[15:35]
trinque	I used to imagine a robot came and pressed these out of the ground one by one	[15:35]
wywialm	i was asked if i can give voice here - is it still true that only people in assbot L1 WoT may give voice?	[15:36]
ascii_field	trinque: they are made largely of, approximately, papier mache.	[15:36]
trinque	yup	[15:37]
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trinque	I grew up in the Biggest and Best "master planned community" in TX	[15:37]
Adlai	wywialm: anybody in L2 can !up somenewbie, which gives them temporary voice; anybody in L1 can !rate somenewbie, putting them in L2 and enabling them to self-voice	[15:37]
trinque	!up n6	[15:37]
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n6	ascii_field: I installed 1.4 gpg but am still getting the same error as before http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ	[15:38]
assbot	dpaste: 3VRBYWJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXnVL )	[15:38]
wywialm	Adlai, thanks again	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	"So my new little desktop app, which was quickly distributed to millions of unsuspecting checkbox-ignoring users, would “borrow” their existing Google session by reading their browser cookies, then invisibly “click” that App Store install button for them on apps that were paying us for distribution."	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[15:38]
n6	googling around it seems like I might need a cert but don't really understand what its asking for.	[15:38]
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ascii_field	what is this nonsense with sks using ssl anyway	[15:38]
ascii_field	i mean, wtf	[15:38]
trinque	gotta link everything to openssl	[15:39]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: do we have a civilized keyserv yet	[15:39]
ascii_field	or do i have to	[15:39]
mircea_popescu	not afaik.	[15:39]
ascii_field	because this is fucking retarded	[15:39]
mircea_popescu	not a priority either.	[15:39]
mircea_popescu	eh just relax.	[15:39]
*	mircea_popescu bbl	[15:39]
n6	ascii_field: Not sure I understand would turning off ssl fix this?	[15:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 1000 @ 0.00208192 = 2.0819 BTC	[15:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45650 @ 0.0006191 = 28.2619 BTC [+] {5}	[15:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.0006114 = 20.1456 BTC [-] {3}	[15:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 5000 @ 0.00208192 = 10.4096 BTC	[15:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 2450 @ 0.00208192 = 5.1007 BTC	[16:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5306 @ 0.00060438 = 3.2068 BTC [-]	[16:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34739 @ 0.00061971 = 21.5281 BTC [+] {3}	[16:23]
wywialm	bye	[16:26]
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TheNewDeal	;;bc,stats	[16:40]
gribble	Current Blocks: 369298 \| Current Difficulty: 5.269984240934701E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 370943 \| Next Difficulty In: 1645 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 8 hours, 19 minutes, and 5 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 47150109359.0 \| Estimated Percent Change: -10.53083	[16:40]
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trinque	!up thestringpuller	[16:55]
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trinque	thestringpuller: good afternoon	[16:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48260 @ 0.00061681 = 29.7673 BTC [-]	[17:07]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[17:21]
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ascii_field	http://media.indiatimes.in/media/content/2015/Jan/capture_1421756730.jpg << vintage lulz. run moar winblowz ce !	[17:21]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1gtZPsU )	[17:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56812 @ 0.00058826 = 33.4202 BTC [-] {3}	[17:30]
trinque	Think OPSEC!	[17:31]
trinque	lol	[17:31]
shinohai	https://np.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3gg5v8/i_switched_to_bitcoinxt_to_protest_today_incident/	[17:32]
assbot	I switched to bitcoinxt to protest today incident : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1J719iv )	[17:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00062164 = 22.3169 BTC [+] {4}	[17:32]
trinque	which reminds me	[17:34]
trinque	those bastards at Just5 did not reply	[17:34]
shinohai	Read: It's ok if we censor debate contrary to XT	[17:34]
trinque	I suppose I am a filthy american who does not deserve fine Slovenian engineering, and Moscow design	[17:35]
shinohai	But don't do it to us, we'll melt down like tumblrinas	[17:35]
ascii_field	wai wut	[17:35]
ascii_field	!s just5	[17:35]
assbot	2 results for 'just5' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=just5	[17:35]
trinque	ascii_field: pretty looking dumbphone I was considering	[17:35]
ascii_field	what's wrong with the chinese 'credit card phones' ?	[17:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50800 @ 0.00062605 = 31.8033 BTC [+] {8}	[17:35]
trinque	http://www.just5.com/worldwide/en/brick/brick-red	[17:36]
assbot	Brick Red ... ( http://bit.ly/1J71wtB )	[17:36]
trinque	nothing in particular; I am still in the market for a suitable dumbphone	[17:36]
ascii_field	huge piece of shit	[17:36]
ascii_field	what'd the point ?	[17:36]
trinque	they all are	[17:36]
ascii_field	no	[17:36]
ascii_field	e.g., http://wholesale.buysku.com/Electronics-image/2013-12/Mooc-M33-One-SIM-Quad-band-Ultra-thin-Mini-Credit-Card-sized-GSM-Cell-Phone-with-Bluetooth-MP3-FM-TF-Slot-White-6352177396313517551.JPG	[17:37]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1J71EJp )	[17:37]
trinque	oh, neat	[17:37]
ascii_field	a dozen makers of this. about $20, give or take, in usa	[17:37]
trinque	extent of the thing's responsibilites are "yes I am still alive" and "yes I will go check out that server"	[17:38]
trinque	considered a beeper even	[17:38]
ascii_field	the slovenian thing is a 'hemingwriter'	[17:38]
kakobrekla	fine Slovenian engineering < last phone of this sorts was 'eta 80' afaik	[17:38]
ascii_field	kinda like a medieval reenactment party ~complete with black death~	[17:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20640 @ 0.00060793 = 12.5477 BTC [-]	[17:38]
ascii_field	there is no reason for '90s bricks.	[17:38]
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trinque	I was joking about fine slovenian engineering	[17:39]
*	kakobrekla wasnt!	[17:39]
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trinque	thing looks like lunchbox plastic	[17:39]
punkman	they are just rebranded chinese phones	[17:40]
punkman	you can get them from the source	[17:40]
trinque	that credit card phone is appealing	[17:40]
punkman	the brick doesn't look too bad though, I don't think it's big	[17:40]
punkman	credit card phone comes with small battery	[17:40]
ascii_field	enough for a few days	[17:41]
ascii_field	srsly how big do you need it	[17:41]
punkman	oh ok http://img.artlebedev.com/everything/just5/just5-in-hand.jpg	[17:42]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1gu2frC )	[17:42]
punkman	that is definitely bigger than I thought	[17:42]
ascii_field	astonishing turd.	[17:42]
punkman	the other just5 models are regular size I think	[17:42]
ascii_field	not like they don't all use approximately same chipset	[17:42]
kakobrekla	you can still get nokias that dont run android	[17:43]
kakobrekla	new ones	[17:43]
ascii_field	fuck proprietary chargers.	[17:44]
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punkman	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03DfcjGnQg this looks fine	[17:44]
assbot	Mobiset.ru: Just5 CP09 review - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu2tiA )	[17:44]
kakobrekla	lol chargers	[17:45]
kakobrekla	phone costs 20bux, standby time 30 days	[17:46]
kakobrekla	buy new one each time, no need to charge.	[17:46]
ascii_field	30 days unless you ~use~ it...	[17:46]
ascii_field	(horrors)	[17:46]
*	kakobrekla doesnt use it.	[17:46]
ascii_field	carries it as blunt weapon ?	[17:46]
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kakobrekla	yeah, like hammer.	[17:48]
ascii_field	then - perfect.	[17:48]
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trinque	removable battery is important	[17:49]
trinque	buttons that aren't impossible would be nice	[17:49]
trinque	other than that, don't care, and would rather not be obligated to carry one	[17:49]
kakobrekla	buttons?	[17:49]
trinque	yeah I don't need no stinking touch screen	[17:50]
kakobrekla	you just need one.	[17:50]
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trinque	!up n6	[17:51]
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trinque	n6: what's up?	[17:51]
TheNewDeal	slightly off topic. anyone have favorite chess problem set?	[17:51]
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trinque	!up ascii_field	[17:52]
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n6	still working on http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html but not sure about my next step.. seems like my os is holding me back, still trying to build my spaceship but it starts with having sane tools maybe debian on the laptop then i can build this on the begalbone and then build the gentoo on the desktop?	[17:53]
assbot	[BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca )	[17:53]
trinque	n6: sounds like you are taking on too much at once.	[17:54]
n6	I'm not sure if debian is going to be any better then this.	[17:54]
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trinque	you need to focus on a single linux environment and get a foothold there	[17:54]
kakobrekla	step 1: get your wototron in order (or not)	[17:54]
n6	kakobrekla: I don't know what you mean.	[17:55]
shinohai	Which I why I suggested earlier he get a sane linux to get started.	[17:55]
trinque	!h	[17:55]
assbot	http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot	[17:55]
trinque	n6: ^	[17:55]
kakobrekla	n6 your keys are all fucked is what i mean	[17:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00061481 = 19.4895 BTC [+] {3}	[17:56]
trinque	rather, http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets	[17:56]
assbot	first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o )	[17:56]
n6	kakobrekla: yea I lost my old key, and am trying to find my way back the right way.	[17:56]
kakobrekla	fuckin assbot and his unhelpful help	[17:56]
trinque	lol	[17:56]
trinque	!gettrust n6	[17:57]
assbot	Trust relationship from user trinque to user n6: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=trinque&to=n6 \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/n6/	[17:57]
kakobrekla	n6 that would prolly be a good step 1	[17:57]
trinque	gonna have to be n7 now	[17:58]
kakobrekla	lol	[17:58]
n6	I hope not.	[17:58]
shinohai	kek	[17:58]
kakobrekla	you dont have your key anymore ?	[17:58]
n6	nope.	[17:58]
kakobrekla	what else then	[17:58]
TheNewDeal	losr car key as well	[17:58]
n6	I had something in mind, but not sure anymore.	[17:59]
TheNewDeal	completely key less	[17:59]
kakobrekla	call nsa for backupz?	[17:59]
n6	I need to my sane sitaution in order before I can join the wot	[17:59]
shinohai	http://thenextweb.com/2015/08/10/google-is-reorganizing-under-a-new-umbrella-company-called-alphabet/	[17:59]
assbot	Google is reorganizing under a new umbrella company called Alphabet ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu4pYn )	[17:59]
shinohai	^ alphabet with a few letters: nsa, fbi, etc	[17:59]
trinque	!b 2	[18:00]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/11NGPES.txt )	[18:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82879 @ 0.00062749 = 52.0057 BTC [+] {4}	[18:01]
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ascii_field	snore.	[18:04]
ascii_field	they can rename to 'fuckyou inc.' and what difference will it make to anyone ?	[18:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117800 @ 0.00058956 = 69.4502 BTC [-] {9}	[18:05]
n6	I still need support with Pogotron would you mind helping me some more ascii_field not sure what i'm doing and everytime the help dries up my progress stops.	[18:12]
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trinque	n6: what's called for there is you going and doing research at the points where you get stuck	[18:12]
trinque	and that may take some time	[18:12]
trinque	even if you end up with a working pogo, if you don't understand the steps which resulted in that, you've gained very little	[18:13]
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n6	I don't see buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4.patch in the list of files.	[18:14]
n6	nvm.	[18:15]
wilbns	http://thenextweb.com/2015/08/10/google-is-reorganizing-under-a-new-umbrella-company-called-alphabet/	[18:15]
assbot	Google is reorganizing under a new umbrella company called Alphabet ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu4pYn )	[18:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00059582 = 5.0049 BTC [+]	[18:16]
trinque	wilbns: yes, that was linked not 20min ago	[18:16]
wilbns	ahhh i see it	[18:16]
wilbns	sorry about that	[18:16]
wilbns	shinohai: nice catch	[18:17]
shinohai	>.>	[18:17]
BingoBoingo	https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143922226922228&w=2	[18:17]
assbot	'Re: Repartitioning' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1J76uXe )	[18:18]
wilbns	i dunno how i missed that in front of my eyes	[18:18]
TheNewDeal	wilbns https://imgflip.com/i/9iu9z	[18:18]
assbot	Image tagged in lawgs - Imgflip ... ( http://bit.ly/1J76CWy )	[18:18]
wilbns	probably getting alzheimers, it's on both the paternal and maternal side of my fam #great	[18:20]
shinohai	The lawgs and qntra have replaced my newspaper with morning coffee.	[18:21]
n6	i'm getting "patch -pl < buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4_0567b86c55934a8b5d1351b4ccba9306ee3406c3.patch" when running patch -p1 < buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4.patch	[18:21]
n6	"patch: **** strip count l is not a number" *	[18:21]
shinohai	(/_-)	[18:22]
trinque	because it's a fucking L, dude	[18:22]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00059582 = 2.6812 BTC [+]	[18:22]
trinque	!up n6	[18:22]
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trinque	go, build ye a gentoo, and read 6mos of logs	[18:23]
trinque	only possible route forward	[18:23]
punkman	it's in the logs http://i.imgur.com/WUPNca3.jpg	[18:23]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1gu7Iib )	[18:23]
trinque	damn, now that's a database	[18:23]
shinohai	The logs are searchable yet!	[18:23]
punkman	barely	[18:24]
shinohai	Now the ethereum project will steal that pic punkman and use it on their "cloud-mining" webpage.	[18:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.0005862 = 7.8258 BTC [-] {2}	[18:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31650 @ 0.00058914 = 18.6463 BTC [+] {3}	[18:29]
BingoBoingo	http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/arrested-in-ferguson-protests-downtown-state-of-emergency-declared-in/article_7564c9cb-cc89-58cb-8787-4aaa91bcccaa.html	[18:38]
assbot	57 arrested in Ferguson protests downtown; state of emergency declared in county : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1J78Xkk )	[18:38]
trinque	yep, one shot too, at least so far	[18:39]
BingoBoingo	USG agitators slacking on their Purge incitement	[18:40]
BingoBoingo	Though the 911 salon got looted again last night	[18:46]
BingoBoingo	When I went to get cigarettes earlier the Proprietor was being interviewed on KMOX. Sounded very close to going full Uncle Ruckus.	[18:50]
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TheNewDeal	!down TheNewDeal	[18:57]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48808 @ 0.00058597 = 28.6 BTC [-] {4}	[18:59]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00062389 = 8.5473 BTC [+]	[19:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58350 @ 0.00059787 = 34.8857 BTC [-] {4}	[19:11]
shinohai	!up n6	[19:18]
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shinohai	Further !ups will cost you 0.005 per until you get in wot like everyone else.	[19:19]
n6	Ok im going to install gentoo and get into the wot	[19:19]
shinohai	>.>	[19:21]
shinohai	I should charge you for an hour + of my time you wasted this evening at my going rate of 0.15 per	[19:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 1000 @ 0.00208192 = 2.0819 BTC	[19:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00058516 = 10.094 BTC [-] {3}	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	waitwut	[19:25]
n6	sorry for all the wasted time, still trying to make sense of all this.	[19:25]
trinque	n6: just gotta pick one thing and make sense of *that8	[19:26]
trinque	and accept that it may take some time.	[19:26]
shinohai	Pretty simple. Read logs. Don't ask people to help you do one thing, and do another. I have neither the time nor crayons for people like that.	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	aww, he ran alf out ? i was kinda enjoying the spectacle.	[19:27]
jurov	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1232854 ... got quite a kick from this	[19:27]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 00:01:39; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-08-2015#1232838 << and when i tell mircea_popescu 'they own the backbone', he laughs	[19:27]
n6	trinque: my issue is i need an ethernet bridge to install gentoo and don't know how to do that.	[19:30]
n6	so maybe debian is my first step	[19:30]
trinque	maybe so	[19:30]
trinque	I dunno what you mean by bridge	[19:30]
trinque	I know what I'd mean, but	[19:30]
trinque	router?	[19:30]
trinque	they're cheap; get one, stick it between your modem and computers	[19:31]
n6	yes.	[19:31]
trinque	then in 6-12mos we can talk about replacing the thing with OpenBSD	[19:31]
trinque	if you keep asking along the way, you're going to get opinions from people which you're not prepared to implement	[19:32]
trinque	do something dumb, iterate on it	[19:32]
trinque	doing something the right way while having no idea how or why you're doing it, you gain nothing	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	there is no reason for '90s bricks. << motorola made them with good enough antenna assemblages you could bash a head in. also the hi q plastics in the casing allowed one to drive mercedes over phone and then use it.	[19:33]
*	shinohai has a startac in the closet somewhere ....	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	if only ubuntu weren't fucktarded we could recommend it to noobs.	[19:34]
shinohai	I recommended Debian because he obviously isn't quite experienced enough for Gentoo yet.	[19:35]
shinohai	I'm not sure if Barbie linux would run for him or not.	[19:35]
trinque	sorry fucking state really.	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/WUPNca3.jpg << if one can find any porn more perverse than this...	[19:36]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1gu7Iib )	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	seriously, that's what the Puritan Fathers would do with young women.	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	max hardcore seems infinitely better a choice.	[19:37]
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punkman	more pics http://www.vintag.es/2015/08/pictures-of-fbis-colossal-fingerprint.html	[19:38]
assbot	vintage everyday: Pictures of FBI’s Colossal Fingerprint Filing System During World War II ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nmfp4P )	[19:38]
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trinque	I find the building beautiful, if the purpose vulgar	[19:39]
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punkman	heh http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nqd7Ycp3Ax0/VcDdlyA5xsI/AAAAAAABtBA/4YioUWoGNZk/s1600/Indignant%2Bwoman%252C%2BParis%252C%2B1948.jpg	[19:40]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1NmfLIA )	[19:40]
trinque	reminds me of a thread on the relationship between computers and bureaucracy	[19:41]
*	trinque looks for it	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	ftr she's not indignant, she's in shock.	[19:42]
shinohai	To fight all that puritanism: https://giant.gfycat.com/FragrantColdHairstreak.webm	[19:43]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1J7h7t9 )	[19:43]
punkman	http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8XRT2ZpBny0/VYp33C5eBPI/AAAAAAABnOM/LRqyBTcaqHA/s1600/9.%2BShaving%2BThe%2BHair%2BOf%2BFrench%2BWomen.jpg	[19:46]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1J7hBzk )	[19:46]
punkman	"After France was liberated toward the end of World War II, French citizens who had supported the invading German troops in any form were tracked down and had their heads forcefully shaved as a badge of dishonor. As many as 20,000 French citizens had their heads shaved in public, the majority of which were women."	[19:46]
shinohai	https://twitter.com/NelsonJeppesen/status/630872710244102145	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	"women that had sex with german officers and enjoyed chocolate and stuff in preference of their poor and worthless countrymen were then brutalized by the later"	[19:48]
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BingoBoingo	;;later tell n6 Step 1: Just run OpenBSD for now Step 2: transcribe and build "Lions' Commentary on UNIX 6th Edition, with Source Code" Step 3: Six monthe of logs should be up, then you may Gentoo	[19:52]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[19:52]
shinohai	Looks like you got your smokes just in time BingoBoingo	[19:53]
BingoBoingo	shinohai: Oh, what happened nao?	[19:53]
shinohai	Shutting down I-70	[19:54]
BingoBoingo	shinohai: Nah, The Blanchette is between St Louis and Bumfuck Missouri. I-70 Bridge between me and StL is the "Stan Span"	[19:55]
shinohai	Good, you're safe.	[19:55]
shinohai	Until the fires start.	[19:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19173 @ 0.00058505 = 11.2172 BTC [-]	[19:56]
BingoBoingo	shinohai: Nah, I am in a very white part of Illinois.	[19:57]
shinohai	I live in a darker area than I'd like, but all-in-all it isn't bad.	[19:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32598 @ 0.00059289 = 19.327 BTC [+]	[20:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153350 @ 0.00058423 = 89.5917 BTC [-] {6}	[20:02]
BingoBoingo	Living in a shittier area would be more fun, but It's nice knowing that the whopping 20 blacks in town don't make this a target for DOJ purge agitation	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	". In spite of Zynga's hemorrhaging wallet and shrinking userbase shares still manage to trade on Nasdaq (archived) at $2.64 per share implying a market cap of $2,072,302,357 on a earnings per share of negative 19 cents."	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	dude...	[20:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24850 @ 0.00058222 = 14.4682 BTC [-]	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	fucking nuts.	[20:04]
shinohai	I have more Hispanics around me than anything. I see ICE agents on a regular basis.	[20:04]
BingoBoingo	Every few years ICE will bust one of the local mexican restaurants or small businesses here.	[20:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 300000 @ 0.0000299 = 8.97 BTC [-] {6}	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	is ice the anti-hispanic agency ?	[20:06]
shinohai	yup, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement	[20:07]
shinohai	https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/08/07/facebook-tax-refund-scam-earns-arizona-woman-6-years-in-jail/	[20:07]
assbot	Facebook tax refund scam earns Arizona woman 6 years in jail \| Naked Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmiOjX )	[20:07]
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thestringpuller	anyone wanna trade btc for dr. dre's new album?	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	check it out, women in tech	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	hey dbit you there ?	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	"Even if you don't have any money of your own to scam, your data may well be of use to someone, and having your identity abused can mean trouble for you further down the line. So don't make it easy for the crooks - try to stick to sensible and cautious settings on your social media accounts, as far as the providers allow, and avoid sharing anything you wouldn't want the whole world to know."	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	how exactly does this follow ? it really is the govt's problem throughout, why should the cattle care one whit ?	[20:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 500 @ 0.00208192 = 1.041 BTC	[20:14]
wilbns	BingoBoingo: my first job was at a car wash in Arkansas, ICE came at least one time I know of, possibly 2 and took some of the Mexicans I was working with away.	[20:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00060422 = 7.1902 BTC [+] {2}	[20:17]
shinohai	It does tons of good. The same people that get deported are back in < 6 months.	[20:20]
trinque	Trump's gonna build the great wall o' Texas; you'll see	[20:22]
trinque	with laser drones	[20:23]
trinque	I have to say watching the guy give speeches is entertaining the shit out of me	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	the part where 'mainstream' media superiorly dismissed some recent speech while popularity shot up was amusing enough.	[20:24]
wilbns	i think the whole subject of illegal immigration and subsequent media coverage is just a big misdirection play to stop people from banding together and asking real questions.	[20:24]
trinque	mircea_popescu: he's clearly doing well	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	what's the woman's name again, i forget. sounds just like a porn star.	[20:24]
trinque	megyn kelly?	[20:25]
trinque	that was the one he implied was on her period	[20:25]
mircea_popescu	ah yea	[20:25]
trinque	he's somehow getting around the political correctness, and people seem to love it	[20:25]
*	punkman hopes "megyn" isn't a name	[20:26]
shinohai	Megynecologist	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	"somehow" = outright and pointedly ignoring it.	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	then derps go "o hello here is where you apologize" and the answer comes "no, this is where i'd fuck your mother, if her cunt didn't stink"	[20:27]
shinohai	She had no qualms about discussing penesis and such with Howard Stern, however.	[20:27]
trinque	haha	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	well, she believes penises are intrinsically superior to vulvas. she may or may not be right, but she's definitely sexist.	[20:30]
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mircea_popescu	!up muruc	[20:30]
-assbot-	You voiced muruc for 30 minutes.	[20:30]
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mats	lol	[20:30]
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mats	hearing about the potus run secondhand makes me glad I don't waste cycles thinking about it	[20:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6743 @ 0.00059925 = 4.0407 BTC [-]	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	it's third hand technically. i heard it secondhand myself.	[20:32]
mats	irc is a string and tin cans	[20:32]
wilbns	as long as the masses are rallying to the side of democrats or republicans as their party of choice each election the people who are really in control will keep on having one - and the masses will be left to pick up the tab.	[20:33]
trinque	I don't care much about the presidency, but listening to Trump talk about how weak we look around the world, and having no qualms about being an asshole towards the rest of the machine, that's entertainment.	[20:33]
shinohai	http://blog.coinspect.co/copay-wallet-emptying-vulnerability	[20:33]
assbot	Copay wallet emptying vulnerability \| blog.coinspect ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmmFhd )	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	wilbns well obviously ? what's next, the lightbulbs are gonna power the generator ?	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	the masses are the masses. ipso definition they pick the tab and someone else writes the bill.	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	bwahaha shinohai	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo qntra ?	[20:34]
shinohai	Run moar online wallets	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	"Copay is an easy-to-use multi-signature bitcoin wallet developed by BitPay to significantly decrease the risk of Bitcoin theft."	[20:35]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Maybe? giving it a look real quick	[20:35]
wilbns	mircea_popescu: yes, yet this message is never heard nor processed. it is airgapped.	[20:35]
trinque	wilbns: you're assuming "they" need to hear the "message"	[20:35]
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trinque	where in fact it's your perspective on their importance that needs to change	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	wilbns i agree with trinque	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	there's really no space, no need and no benefit from "the people" getting involved in managing other people's affairs.	[20:36]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: someone stole another one of your ideas: http://signmytits.com/en/preview/1089	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	it'd be splendid if they took a more active role managing theirs.	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller writing on tits can not possibly have been my idea.	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	i've seen it done in egiptian tombs.	[20:37]
wilbns	sorry, not sure i get what part of the perspective needs to change?	[20:37]
thestringpuller	but no writing on boobs for...bitcoin?	[20:37]
wilbns	the masses or tptb?	[20:38]
trinque	wilbns: yours.	[20:39]
wilbns	"their importance" - not sure who they is	[20:39]
trinque	and I'm speaking as someone that went to more than one Ron Paul thing in the 08 election	[20:39]
trinque	there is no great awakening coming; what would that even look like?	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller lmao what a fucking scam srsly... so he has some pictures, pngs text on it, wants to be paid serious dough for this and runs disqus to boot.	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	why does bitcoin attract the cream of the crop of imbecility ?	[20:41]
shinohai	Because without hundreds of features, how you gonna moon?	[20:42]
wilbns	trinque: i liked paul too. perhaps great change will come through cryptography and decentralization	[20:42]
trinque	people are "free" enough today that they could change anything they like	[20:43]
trinque	they don't. why?	[20:43]
trinque	you can go out into the street right now and start a riot, and the cops wont even kill that many people	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	for as long as it's growing they're not killing anyone.	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	that starts after it's gone no where for a year	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	as fergusson illustrates.	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	aka "peaceful protest is dumb - go for numerous protest instead"	[20:44]
trinque	yeah, there could be a tipping point where national guard operations happen	[20:45]
shinohai	The blacklisting begins: https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commit/73c9efe74c5cc8faea9c2b2c785a2f5b68aa4c23	[20:45]
assbot	Introduce the beginnings of anti-DoS resource scheduling. · bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt@73c9efe · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nmohr0 )	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire_racism << pretty great read. wikipedia has (yet another) article on the insanity of sanity.	[20:46]
assbot	Laissez-faire racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmogmV )	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	apparently the best way to not be racist is by being racist in the currently fashionable manner, and so forth.	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	not giving a shit about the stupid preoccupations of the stupid is the worst crime.	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	and in NO CASE can people be responsible for their own lot, because hey, what scope does that live for politicianing!	[20:47]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: are the bitcoin "business" ideas really that much more stupid than those in bezzle-land?	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	i have nfi.	[20:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00060422 = 3.2326 BTC [+] {2}	[20:49]
trinque	reminds me a little of that Deepak Chopra guy talking about quantum consciousness	[20:51]
trinque	bitcoin is weird, so you can project whatever nonsensical bullshit you want onto it	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	something like that.	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	"holistic" essentially denotes the inclination of economically driven, socially & intellectually marginal parasites to freely mix and match.	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	they're the equivalent of bacteria, and thus the behaviour is unsurprising - bacteria also survive principally because they're not too careful when exchanging dna bits.	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	consequently, "everything's one" and last year we were lolling at idiots doing "quantum miners".	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	because hey.	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	homeopathic string theory. why the fuck not ? the aloe vera wallet.	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	pot coin.	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	you name it.	[20:53]
trinque	hahaha	[20:53]
*	trinque hooks his quantum miner to his mr fusion	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	they're not even very good at it, incidentally. the space could be trivially ennumerated and then mechanically exploited.	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	"astrological brainwallets"	[20:54]
punkman	that's a pretty good one :D	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	"add this magnetic strip to your miner and save 3-50% electricity by the refocusing of positron rings"	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	mostly a disease of "visual thinkers", as illustrated by the poor job they do at covering the actual space.	[20:57]
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mircea_popescu	i suppose the proper nomenclature would be "creative people [that never learned any math]", tho the tail's usually omitted.	[21:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00060423 = 7.9154 BTC [+]	[21:02]
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shinohai	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMFhnqXWgAQ53OJ.jpg	[21:06]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1NmqdQw )	[21:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MG] 242200 @ 0.0001 = 24.22 BTC [+] {2}	[21:32]
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mircea_popescu	soo, f16 in turkey now huh.	[21:53]
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mircea_popescu	https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-181800-p-2.html << this shit's just as lulzy as 2 years ago.	[22:11]
assbot	Bitcoin Giveaway [Archive] - Page 2 - Stripper Web Exotic Dancer Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1IAxKdh )	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	"we don't believe in bears because we work on commission for our lively. hood."	[22:13]
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mats	meanwhile, to my knowledge, assad still hasn't given approval for strikes against ISIS inside syria	[22:15]
mircea_popescu	they're mostly doing iraq border	[22:15]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233737 << all these grunt labour slots - now freed up so folks can derp on reddit, aha	[22:18]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 22:38:29; punkman: more pics http://www.vintag.es/2015/08/pictures-of-fbis-colossal-fingerprint.html	[22:18]
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asciilifeform	(also shows how usg police state was already firmly in place in that period, for anyone who had doubts)	[22:18]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233745 << error: cock visible	[22:19]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 22:43:46; shinohai: To fight all that puritanism: https://giant.gfycat.com/FragrantColdHairstreak.webm	[22:19]
asciilifeform	srsly, am i the only straight bloke here or what	[22:19]
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mircea_popescu	!up Varia_Varietatis	[22:19]
-assbot-	You voiced Varia_Varietatis for 30 minutes.	[22:19]
*	assbot gives voice to Varia_Varietatis	[22:19]
Varia_Varietatis	hey mircea_popescu working on my gpg now	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	aha ? who're you ?	[22:20]
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Varia_Varietatis	Varia_Varietatis who else?	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	mkay	[22:20]
Naphex	xotika.tv referral program is up and available for those interested. 2.5% of the tippings received or sent by users you invite. Everything is tracked real time and available from withdraw from the platform.	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform your idea of straightness is "have never observed a penis" ?	[22:20]
asciilifeform	mno	[22:20]
Naphex	clients get tracked and the rewards are sticky	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	interdasting Naphex	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform then!	[22:21]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: but it means to me that the naked and juicing bits in pr0n ought to belong to females	[22:21]
asciilifeform	but then again that could be just me.	[22:21]
mats	lol	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	(i didn't see the thing in question, for some reason .webm comes out as a string of bits)	[22:22]
asciilifeform	it was an animated gif thing with a cycling cock center stage	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	all this institutionalized misandry.	[22:23]
asciilifeform	l0l	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	female privilege is never having had your bits rejected for center stageness.	[22:24]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233785 << the usg-connected folks who specialize in bringing'em back in gotta eat !	[22:24]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 23:20:17; shinohai: It does tons of good. The same people that get deported are back in < 6 months.	[22:24]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233849 << that was hearn's thing for years now, srsly	[22:26]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 23:45:55; shinohai: The blacklisting begins: https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commit/73c9efe74c5cc8faea9c2b2c785a2f5b68aa4c23	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	anyway. it's unclear to me pron can be judged through formal means.	[22:26]
asciilifeform	what is this 'begins.'	[22:26]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: subjective, rather than formal; but how many seconds does it take ~you~ to realize that you won't be hardening to a particular pr0n	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	but yeah, the entire xt nonsense exists chiefly as a venue for various nobodies to exercise negative powers they don't actually have.	[22:27]
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mircea_popescu	i won't bother looking at just how much this connotes their hunger for my cock, out of respect of asciilifeform's heterosexuality.	[22:27]
asciilifeform	l0l	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i don't think i ever got a pron erection.	[22:28]
asciilifeform	perhaps they wish to 'chortle on the balls' (tm) (r) ('silicon valley')	[22:28]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233874 << this is inevitable.	[22:29]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 23:55:16; mircea_popescu: "add this magnetic strip to your miner and save 3-50% electricity by the refocusing of positron rings"	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	i suspek pron erections work like erections work generally, which is to say, as a learned behaviour. people get erections like dogs salivate, more or less.	[22:29]
asciilifeform	just like the 'deoxygenated copper audiophile cable' and the monumental 'green marker for improving cd audio'	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	you could definitely train someone to get hard at the sight of ears	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	or hair.	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	the former i've actually observed irl.	[22:30]
asciilifeform	more commonly given example is shoes	[22:30]
asciilifeform	but betcha hair works in the land of the chador	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	yeah, very picket-fence-y this one. the usian housewive only wears heels the night she's gonna fuck "the master of the house", and so...	[22:31]
asciilifeform	(and a silhouette of a head is probably enough in the land of burqa)	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform very amusingly, the arabs a) don'	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	t react to the bare cunt much and b) can't actually draw the female body.	[22:31]
asciilifeform	mega-unsurprise	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	which is a pity because arab sluts have really nice ass/waist combos.	[22:32]
Varia_Varietatis	;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B	[22:33]
Varia_Varietatis	;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B	[22:33]
gribble	Error: 'D126595B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.	[22:33]
Varia_Varietatis	;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis 95AD4E4BD126595B	[22:33]
gribble	Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.	[22:33]
asciilifeform	doesn't appear to be in sks	[22:34]
Varia_Varietatis	asciilifeform: how can I add it?	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	"Peer priorities are based on matching the connecting IP against a set of IP groups. For now, the only IP group is one that gives Tor exits a score of -10."	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	fucking retarded, seriously ? bayesian approach ?	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	that particular bit of pseudoscientific nonsense is not dying soon, is it.	[22:35]
asciilifeform	Varia_Varietatis: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-04-2015#1105532	[22:36]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 11:41:31; mircea_popescu: and then $ gpg --keyserver sks-keyservers.net --send-key and $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key where keyid you just copy from the line above.	[22:36]
mircea_popescu	why the fuck is it so intuitively obvious to stupid people that keeping a list of sins is practicable, useful or desirable.	[22:36]
kakobrekla	Varia_Varietatis it takes some time for key to be visible on sks, apart from that i think you might be hopping the wrong bot	[22:36]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: because they are unable to synthesize	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	so how do they eat ?	[22:37]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: these are the same folks who think that education consists of 'having read many learnedbooks'	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	shit	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	this is how they eat. hence macdonalds and starbucks.	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	omfg.	[22:37]
asciilifeform	aha	[22:37]
asciilifeform	see?	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	i think this is the principal stupidity.	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	the belief that sins are an ennumeration.	[22:37]
asciilifeform	not only sins	[22:38]
asciilifeform	they do everything via lookup table	[22:38]
asciilifeform	but more importantly, assume that this is the only possible way anything could be done.	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	sins are the basis of errything	[22:38]
asciilifeform	some supposedly 'intelligent' folks took this to ridiculous heights	[22:38]
asciilifeform	like doug lenat	[22:38]
asciilifeform	who said something like 'cognition is ten thousand if-statements'	[22:39]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[22:39]
asciilifeform	(improvement over the skinnerists, who thought it was... 4 if-statements)	[22:39]
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mircea_popescu	the amusing thing to me is that all the libertard anglos read baudrillard, deleuze, lyotard, & co like the dog listens to music.	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	ten thousand if statements is pre fucking saussure ffs.	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	an understanding of things up to the most recent discoveries & bleeding edge of understanding cca 1815	[22:40]
Varia_Varietatis	kakobrekla: Hopping the wrong bot?	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	you want assbot	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	!like so	[22:41]
Varia_Varietatis	!gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis 95AD4E4BD126595B	[22:43]
Varia_Varietatis	like that?	[22:43]
danielpbarron	you don't need your nickname in the query	[22:44]
kakobrekla	!register	[22:44]
assbot	Nick kakobrekla is already taken.	[22:44]
danielpbarron	and that doesn't look to be long enough for a fingerprint	[22:44]
kakobrekla	how many asseteers to register a key?	[22:45]
Varia_Varietatis	How can I check if its on the key server yet?	[22:46]
danielpbarron	one way is to get the command right	[22:46]
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asciilifeform	!up Varia_Varietatis	[22:50]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233727 << yes, i had one. no, i can't think of a reason to tear my pockets with it again	[22:52]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 22:33:07; mircea_popescu: there is no reason for '90s bricks. << motorola made them with good enough antenna assemblages you could bash a head in. also the hi q plastics in the casing allowed one to drive mercedes over phone and then use it.	[22:52]
asciilifeform	why not return to the '80s briefcase phone, too	[22:52]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233729 << and a death ray, '... and a pony'	[22:53]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 22:34:45; mircea_popescu: if only ubuntu weren't fucktarded we could recommend it to noobs.	[22:53]
Varia_Varietatis	I put in my full finger print with spaces and without didnt work.	[22:54]
BingoBoingo	!up n6 Tell these kind folks what you accomplished today.	[22:54]
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n6	I installed open bsd	[22:54]
n6	thanks to everyone who helped.	[22:55]
BingoBoingo	n6: And you are going to continue consulting the man pages when things go wrong?	[22:56]
n6	Yes, im done with the ubuntu style of copy paste guide.	[22:56]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: you had a favourite book re: openbsd i recall ?	[22:56]
asciilifeform	perhaps n6 would like it.	[22:57]
n6	I will be reading that asap	[22:57]
n6	and the unix book you told me about.	[22:57]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: "Absolute OpenBSD"	[22:57]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Book also has danielpbarron's endorsement	[22:58]
danielpbarron	yes, and OpenBSD is very easy to install	[22:58]
danielpbarron	almost a joy	[22:59]
n6	got gentoo installed only to lose my lsub, and have my ethernet router stepped on in such a way all 4 ports went out.	[22:59]
n6	Couldn't recover after that.	[23:00]
BingoBoingo	Just remember OpenBSD still contains plenty of ways to hang yourself. On the plus side almost all of them are very well documented.	[23:00]
Varia_Varietatis	I still can't seem to join the wot. putting in my full keyid 95AD4E4BD126595B	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	that's half a keyid.	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	mine's 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 not 76998A736F0E2FB7B452	[23:03]
Varia_Varietatis	How do I get that out of gpg?	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	--fingerprint	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x95AD4E4BD126595B << and you're on sks alright.	[23:04]
assbot	Public Key Server -- Get "0x95ad4e4bd126595b " ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmBz76 )	[23:04]
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Varia_Varietatis	got it	[23:06]
*	asciilifeform back, was playing with his first proper crusscut shredder	[23:06]
asciilifeform	*crosscut	[23:06]
asciilifeform	thing claims to cut disks, even.	[23:07]
Varia_Varietatis	;;gpg eauth Varia_Varietatis	[23:07]
gribble	Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.	[23:07]
Varia_Varietatis	;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B	[23:08]
gribble	Error: 'D126595B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	wrong bot still.	[23:08]
danielpbarron	Varia_Varietatis, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1102946	[23:09]
assbot	Logged on 17-04-2015 02:56:31; jayk: !register 7AA64CBF8362275B2189869784A13BE284D27F50	[23:09]
Varia_Varietatis	danielpbarron, Already did that in pm trying to auth now.	[23:10]
danielpbarron	do it in here	[23:10]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: I had a cheap crosscut machine that experience the general mysterious "stopped working" failure mode most consumer products from walmart do.	[23:10]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: the eventual fate of all things	[23:11]
danielpbarron	!gettrust Varia_Varietatis	[23:11]
assbot	Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user Varia_Varietatis: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=danielpbarron&to=Varia_Varietatis \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Varia_Varietatis/	[23:11]
danielpbarron	ah, you are registered. Now type /msg assbot !up	[23:11]
asciilifeform	pretty sure that all shredders other than perhaps petrol-powered 'enron'-grade units, will croak after a thousand pgs or so	[23:11]
Varia_Varietatis	Need a better rating.	[23:12]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Ah.	[23:12]
danielpbarron	Varia_Varietatis, that's your next step then :D	[23:12]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: doesn't hurt to oil the thing, also.	[23:12]
asciilifeform	like any other cutting tool	[23:12]
Varia_Varietatis	;;rate BingoBoingo should have better read his gpg guides.	[23:13]
gribble	Error: 'should' is not a valid integer.	[23:13]
BingoBoingo	Of course.	[23:13]
Varia_Varietatis	;;rate BingoBoingo 1 should have better read his gpg guides.	[23:13]
gribble	Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.	[23:13]
BingoBoingo	Varia_Varietatis: Oh, that one's outdated as far as bot registration for this channel goes	[23:13]
asciilifeform	still using wrong bot	[23:13]
asciilifeform	Varia_Varietatis: gribble is no longer used here	[23:13]
Varia_Varietatis	!rate BingoBoingo 1 should have read his gpg guides better.	[23:14]
assbot	You must be rated before you can rate.	[23:14]
Varia_Varietatis	So now what?	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform my tm shredder cut ~78k pages. electric. diamond blades.	[23:15]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: spiffy	[23:15]
asciilifeform	if i had 78k pgs in one crate, would probably just burn'em	[23:16]
mircea_popescu	if you recall, i burned the shreds.	[23:16]
BingoBoingo	Varia_Varietatis: Do any of us know you from anywhere? Forgive me. My memory is imperfect.	[23:16]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: aha, yes!	[23:16]
Varia_Varietatis	I used to be n6 but lost my key.	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	sop. at least in civilised circles.	[23:17]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to burn the confetti from this one. on account of every other snail mail envelope containing an unsolicited plastic bank card	[23:17]
n6	here I am two places at once	[23:17]
BingoBoingo	!rate Varia_Varietatis 1 New, Ambitious, reading man pages	[23:17]
assbot	Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f144d627770cc7cd	[23:17]
asciilifeform	'borrow 500k! you know you wanna!!1111!!11'	[23:17]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: these are pestilential here	[23:17]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: hence why even the lowliest schmuck owns shredder	[23:18]
BingoBoingo	!v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.Varia_Varietatis.1:11486eec2825b32310ab05b0307c68cc85468a2f8e867bd28f1c4beb2442d430	[23:18]
assbot	Successfully added a rating of 1 for Varia_Varietatis with note: New, Ambitious, reading man pages	[23:18]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to burn the confetti from this one. on account of every other snail mail envelope containing an unsolicited plastic bank card << Why are you so afraid of burning petro-strange?	[23:19]
Varia_Varietatis	!rate BingoBoingo wrote the gpg guide.	[23:19]
assbot	Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.	[23:19]
Varia_Varietatis	!rate BingoBoingo 1 wrote the gpg guide.	[23:19]
assbot	Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/2f8c24bf26164b4d	[23:19]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: don't like the smell. and neighbours won't either	[23:19]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: i live in 'civilization', recall.	[23:20]
BingoBoingo	Ah, I forget "east coast"	[23:20]
BingoBoingo	Burning strange is much more acceptable in this region	[23:20]
*	assbot removes voice from Varia_Varietatis	[23:21]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233875 << i might have said this before, but if this is actually possible, i'm probably it	[23:22]
assbot	Logged on 10-08-2015 23:57:29; mircea_popescu: mostly a disease of "visual thinkers", as illustrated by the poor job they do at covering the actual space.	[23:22]
TomServo	I'm late to the party, but thought I'd report my 0.5.3.1 is also wedged @ 367850.	[23:23]
TomServo	I can provide logs if it's of any help.	[23:23]
asciilifeform	TomServo: long ago fixed	[23:24]
BingoBoingo	TomServo: Rebuilt editing db.cpp to much higher settings	[23:24]
TomServo	Effort better spent building rotor?	[23:24]
*	assbot removes voice from n6	[23:24]
asciilifeform	TomServo: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000139.html	[23:25]
assbot	[BTC-dev] (CORRECTED) Bullet in the Forehead for the BDB Locks Idiocy ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWNo0i )	[23:25]
asciilifeform	TomServo: and yes, i recommend rotor.	[23:26]
asciilifeform	but rotor doesn't tell you what patches to use	[23:26]
asciilifeform	that is up to you.	[23:26]
asciilifeform	(once mod6 and ben_vulpes come up with an official release - can use that, also)	[23:27]
TomServo	I'm probably too slow to be much use, but what are the current requests for testing? still TEST2? or rotor?	[23:30]
BingoBoingo	WHy not TEST2 in rotor?	[23:37]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform "it" what ?	[23:40]
asciilifeform	'visual think'	[23:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9957 @ 0.00059925 = 5.9667 BTC [-]	[23:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14618 @ 0.00059629 = 8.7166 BTC [-] {3}	[23:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20043 @ 0.00059774 = 11.9805 BTC [+] {3}	[23:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10181 @ 0.00059924 = 6.1009 BTC [+] {2}	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	http://33.media.tumblr.com/ea19b4078947b7a8f275fb8f95b8a0ef/tumblr_miprrmQSJO1s0bp20o1_500.gif special for alfie	[23:51]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1NmF3X6 )	[23:51]
*	menahem (~menahem@unaffiliated/menahem) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:53]
*	BingoBoingo got new 64 GB usb drive to day for blockchain backup, formats as FFS	[23:53]
BingoBoingo	!up Varia_Varietatis	[23:57]
*	assbot gives voice to Varia_Varietatis	[23:57]
BingoBoingo	!unrate Varia_Varietatis	[23:57]
assbot	Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/737bb735f5f3e07a	[23:57]
Varia_Varietatis	Guys I forgot the passphase on the key I just made.	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	!down Varia_Varietatis	[23:57]
*	assbot removes voice from Varia_Varietatis	[23:57]
BingoBoingo	!v assbot:BingoBoingo.unrate.Varia_Varietatis:0849b388f960f2692a5f90663ca03599e09d7f361ee68674225ed865270b9ae8	[23:58]
assbot	Successfully unrated Varia_Varietatis	[23:58]
BingoBoingo	6 months apply again	[23:58]

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