Forum logs for 09 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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mike_c	GET /gow//........................etc/passwd << does this shit actually still work on anyone?	[00:01]
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mircea_popescu	nope.	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	and i mean, so he gets passwd. so ?	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	what is he going to do with it ?	[00:02]
mike_c	who knows. but A for effort, 3000 requests in a minute.	[00:02]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/o-hai-i-was-justing-doing-a-penetration-test-of-your-site/ more in the same style.	[00:03]
assbot	O hai. I was justing doing a penetration test of your site. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[00:03]
[]bot	Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/	[00:05]
mike_c	really? i thought we were going back to moon now.	[00:05]
asciilifeform	an actual word to describe the sheer ugliness of tshirts and chinos as worn by the modern western plebs >> neal stephenson's 'slines'	[00:05]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: I thought we never really hit the moon yet, just low earth orbit.	[00:06]
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mike_c	last i heard we had hit moon and were aiming for mars. but i don't keep track.	[00:06]
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mircea_popescu	wasn't it the dog that went to moon ?	[00:06]
kakobrekla	anything but earth please.	[00:07]
mike_c	http://bitnewt.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bitcoin-Moon-Flag.gif	[00:07]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/private-tour-cias-incredible-museum-180952738/?no-ist	[00:09]
assbot	A Private Tour of the CIA's Incredible Museum \| History \| Smithsonian	[00:09]
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BingoBoingo	Comment on a site that links to gallery of things to be paranoid about "	[00:10]
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BingoBoingo	Go to permalink	[00:10]
BingoBoingo	That story about the silenced handgun is ridiculous. Even modern suppressors leave gunshots well over 100 dB range. Nice to know that our spymasters even insist on lying to themselves." Forgets .22lr is a thing	[00:10]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: СП-4	[00:13]
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BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Well... Always room for improvement	[00:20]
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BingoBoingo	'Murica has obola again http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms	[00:23]
assbot	Ebola Scare Sends Dallas County Sheriff’s Deputy To Hospital « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth	[00:23]
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The20YearIRCloud	oh joy	[00:25]
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thestringpuller	w/dinwo 21	[00:27]
BingoBoingo	Basically texas needs quarantined nao	[00:28]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,937.	[00:29]
The20YearIRCloud	texas has more health problems from illegals coming over the boarder than it does with ebola (all healthwise)	[00:29]
BingoBoingo	Nah.	[00:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8219 @ 0.00074336 = 6.1097 BTC [-]	[00:30]
BingoBoingo	I imagine within the decade Mexico will be more concerned about illegals coming from the US than the other way.	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	The20YearIRCloud depends how bad it gets.	[00:31]
BingoBoingo	I have a gut feeling that the big reason more US'ians don't follow through with their going to Canada threats is that Canada is too close to what they are leaving. That and Canada doesn't really want them.	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	from the looks of it they've got maybe even odds to lose control and end up with an epidemic	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	if the mortality is 20% from the disease and another 10% from the resulting stampede that's about 100mn deaths in the us by 2016.	[00:31]
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ben_vulpes	do i hafta stop licking eyeballs?	[00:33]
asciilifeform	and the flights carry on.	[00:33]
asciilifeform	ebama, obola.	[00:33]
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asciilifeform	official excuse is, get this, 'you can't get infected on the plane, we check for fever getting off'	[00:34]
asciilifeform	if chewbacca lives on endor you must acquit.	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform there is some merit to this. apparently it's not infectious presymptomatically.	[00:35]
asciilifeform	sure.	[00:35]
ben_vulpes	you better lose yourself in the pandemic you own it, you better never let it go you only get one shot do not miss your chance to blow	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	n ow on the other hand, who gives a shit about west africa flights...	[00:35]
asciilifeform	yes.	[00:35]
asciilifeform	ebama does.	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	i don't get this. you telling me it's specifically because obama is a kenyan citizen ?	[00:35]
asciilifeform	gotta bring in more, you see, texas seed might die out.	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	kenya is not even on the list ?	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	eh get out.	[00:36]
asciilifeform	nah, it's because this is a golden chance for usg.	[00:36]
asciilifeform	or at least, someone seems to think so	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	to... what ?	[00:36]
bounce	that whole patenting thing?	[00:36]
asciilifeform	to remain relevant a little longer.	[00:36]
chetty	but seriously when exactly do you cross the line to being infections? the exact second you show a fever? the first time you cough? of just maybe its actually 5 minutes before ...	[00:36]
asciilifeform	and to desaparecer certain inconveniences in the chaos.	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	get out, no govenrment in history survived a large pandemic	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	nor could it.	[00:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00074435 = 14.7381 BTC [+] {2}	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	chetty apparently it's well after fever.	[00:37]
asciilifeform	chetty: when exactly do you cross the line << from a sane (e.g. soviet) epidemiologist's point of view - when you set foot in a 'hot zone' - you're infectious until proven innocent.	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	there's good biological reason for this	[00:37]
penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/boost-vc-and-zapchain-team-up-to-create-the-bitcoin-course/	[00:37]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/get-your-bitcoin-news-widget/	[00:37]
chetty	me dont believe thay actually know for sure	[00:37]
BingoBoingo	chetty: No one knows where the line is, may vary in different situations	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	chetty this is roughly like the "can't get aids from mosquitoes/bugs	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	generally, broadly speaking you don't.	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	then again...	[00:38]
ben_vulpes	ottomans survived regular decimations in constantinople, according to "The Sultans"	[00:38]
chetty	asciilifeform, I like that definition	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes which specifically ?	[00:38]
dub	is there acutally more cases of obola or are yall watching fox again	[00:38]
ben_vulpes	which ottomans?	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	dub the sherrif apparently is suspcious	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes which epidemic	[00:38]
ben_vulpes	"plague"	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	WHICH lol	[00:39]
asciilifeform	dub: they're ddosing the public with 'yet another 134 false alarms in city X!'	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	like, what year.	[00:39]
ben_vulpes	it was a passing note, take it up with Barber!	[00:39]
chetty	dub, they took another one into isolation to 'test'	[00:39]
ben_vulpes	dunno boss.	[00:39]
asciilifeform	dub: when folks start to burst in shopping malls into bloody mess, they won't be able to keep a lid on it. and they know it. so what can they do? cultivate an atmosphere of bullshit, so the news will be met with maximal skepticism.	[00:40]
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mircea_popescu	like the 1812/13 ? or prior ?	[00:40]
asciilifeform	these folks are pro at exactly one thing: keeping the cattle from stampede.	[00:40]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: The scariest zombies are always the kind that die. I've never much feared undeath.	[00:40]
chetty	I don't think they even need actual disease now, the fear may be enough	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i wouldn't credit them with that.	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	it's the cattle.	[00:41]
chetty	on the not shutting down flights, whats wrong with those pilots and aircrews, they can and should shut it down	[00:42]
asciilifeform	chetty: they want to eat.	[00:42]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Most cattle here lack the cardiovascular endurance to really... Stampede... McDonalds et al	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	;;google Cocoliztli	[00:42]
gribble	Megadrought and Megadeath in 16th Century Mexico: ; Cocoliztli - Evidence Detail :: US History: ; Cocoliztli or Cocolitzli? - Indigenous Hemorrhagic Fever and The ...:	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	teh mexicans had an ebola-ish thing at some point.	[00:42]
chetty	chetty: they want to eat.// helps to be alive to do that	[00:43]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Hanta, still endemic to the America southwest. Goes through dormant, emergent cycles	[00:43]
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chetty	BingoBoingo, thats a point, with all the drought that should have broken out, haven't seen anything about it	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	!up Quinn_	[00:44]
-assbot-	You voiced Quinn_ for 30 minutes.	[00:44]
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BingoBoingo	Basically North America can not have an edible mouse like Slovenia can.	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	they eat the squirels. same deal.	[00:45]
Quinn_	mircea, i was told you wanted to talk to me?	[00:45]
BingoBoingo	Hanta is apparently a creature of the desert.	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	this is possible. who are you ?	[00:45]
Quinn_	I created the bitcoin users in a nutshell cartoon.	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	o hey.	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	dja wanna make some bitcoin-assets cartoons ?	[00:46]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: prior, iirc. the context of the remark was that the sultan (subject of the chapter) began to address the plagues that had routinely decimated the capital with european medical techniques. this was, iirc, one of the last three to rule before the sultanate was brought to an end by the young turks et al.	[00:46]
asciilifeform	chetty: in usa we fear unemployment literally more than bloody death of obola.	[00:46]
mircea_popescu	does your own statement resolve your objection ben_vulpes ? :)	[00:47]
Quinn_	Depends on the content, i have a site which is better to contact me through. www.zenithquinn.com/#!commissions/c171x	[00:47]
ben_vulpes	o ya :D	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	Quinn_ how does it depend on the content ?	[00:47]
ben_vulpes	though the causal relationship is a little murky to me	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes merely correlation was proposed.	[00:47]
Quinn_	well I don't know what type of cartoons you want, so i can't tell you if i can agree to it or not.	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	but i'm preselected, i already seen the cartoon you made, so we're going with that type.	[00:48]
Quinn_	But do you have a script /idea?	[00:48]
bounce	``The Mexican natives in the encomienda system were treated as virtual slaves, were poorly fed and clothed, and were greatly overworked as farm and mine laborers. This harsh treatment appears to have left them particularly vulnerable to epidemic disease.'' -- worked to death, illness finished it	[00:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7897 @ 0.00074732 = 5.9016 BTC [+]	[00:49]
mircea_popescu	Quinn_ no, not yet. but if you're amenable to work on one i think we can probably come up with something.	[00:49]
mircea_popescu	bounce i wouldn't credit post-libtard revolution descriptions of history.	[00:49]
mircea_popescu	i mean sure, it all fits neatly, "prior to the soviet state and everywhere outside of it kids had it rough and didn't even get any icecream"	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	still...	[00:50]
bounce	that's not-invented-here.gov, dunno about their political or historic revisionism inclinations	[00:51]
Quinn_	Contact me through my site and we can discuss this further! :)	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	i'm not going to.	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	that's the point, actually.	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	you can contact me through here and we can discuss it further.	[00:51]
Quinn_	I don't arrange commissioned work through irc chats, not very trustworthy.	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	Quinn_ how long does it take you to make one of these ? could you in principle bang out one a week if scripts were availabe ?	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	it'd work nicely as a weekly featured video for qntra	[00:52]
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Quinn_	The amount of work and time dedicated all depends on price. e.g a $300 video that's 30 seconds long will take a week.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	hm, irc chats are actually the pinnacle of trustworthy, you just don't know about how it all works yet.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	so how long did this video in question take you ?	[00:53]
Quinn_	I did it in my spare time between commissions, since it wasn't a source of income so around 3 months	[00:54]
Quinn_	and I know nothing about you, a quick google search doesn't reveal anything either	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	ah so it's very work intensive huh.	[00:55]
Quinn_	other than one article citing you as a romanian billionaire which doesn't exactly sound in any way legit.	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	maybe your google isn't so good ?	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/20/openbsd_bailed_out/ for instance	[00:55]
assbot	Romanian Bitcoin baron 'stumps up $20k to keep OpenBSD's lights on' The Register	[00:55]
mike_c	not entirely legit. should be "ex-pat romanian".	[00:55]
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BingoBoingo	Quinn_: At the time he was provably a Billionaire. Now He's mysteriously maybe so. Bitcoin be volatile.	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	how does it not sound in any way legit ?!	[00:57]
BingoBoingo	He's at least a plural hundreds of Millionaire though, provably.	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin created what, 50bn worth of value out of the ether. didja think it all went into the usg budget or something ?	[00:57]
Quinn_	Not to seem rude, but there;s hundreds or people who claim to be bitcoin millionaires on reddit and such.	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	well, sure.	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	nobody is claiming reddit is legit.	[00:58]
BingoBoingo	;;ident mircea_popescu	[00:59]
gribble	Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	this is an interesting point tho. i guess for the vast majority of the public, bitcoin is this "cool tech", nobody stops to think bitcoin is actually a bunch of saudi princes.	[00:59]
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Quinn_	mircea didn't you create a porn site under a false name and stolen content?	[01:01]
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mircea_popescu	nope.	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	i was a producer for a bunch shots, but that was back in the 90s.	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/MCRKSsq.gif :D	[01:02]
Quinn_	Yeah i think i'll stick to working with trustworthy people like Tapeke and blockchain! Seeya!	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	cheers.	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	who the fucke is tapeke	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/onmJiHN.gif << am i putting this in the next s.nsa report ?	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	"‎	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	Tapeke is the first personal finance application specifically designed for Bitcoin. We help Bitcoiners to keep track of their Bitcoin expenses and incomes and ..." << you couldn't possibly mean that ?!	[01:04]
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Naphex	lol	[01:04]
thestringpuller	Yeah i think i'll stick to working with trustworthy people like Tapeke and blockchain! << blockchain is trustworthy nao?	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	anyway, the sad part here is that 15k youtube views took $300 * 3 * 4.2 = 3800 dollars' worth of this guy's time.	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	which is fucking scary.	[01:05]
mike_c	his time must be worth more given he just turned down a weekly video job.	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	mike_c i don't think he was proceeding very calculatedly tbh.	[01:06]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: I dunno. It's all about the burn rate.	[01:06]
mike_c	BingoBoingo: you're all over my homepage (again) http://www.btcalpha.com/	[01:08]
assbot	Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance.	[01:08]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/ Odds: 49(Y):51(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,832.	[01:08]
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mircea_popescu	speaking of which, mike_c dja feel like doing some writing for qrta ?	[01:09]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: Cool	[01:09]
mike_c	my once-a-month pace already strains my time for writing. i don't think i'm the right fit for a newsroom.	[01:09]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: lol!	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	kk	[01:09]
thickasthieves	;;ticker	[01:11]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 353.67, Best ask: 353.85, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 353.67, 24 hour volume: 27768.82024727, 24 hour low: 326.93, 24 hour high: 355.0, 24 hour vwap: 342.040137856	[01:11]
thickasthieves	chugging along	[01:11]
mike_c	there was this woman around looking for work who was a writer, but i think she disappeared.	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	work is apparently hard.	[01:12]
mike_c	;;seen wyrdmantis	[01:12]
gribble	wyrdmantis was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 12 hours, 10 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: Alibaba IPO? Totally unrelated to this downmove?	[01:12]
mircea_popescu	so much shit on people's eyes getting in the way of their finding a loaf of bread	[01:12]
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mircea_popescu	!up SweeteDad	[01:13]
-assbot-	You voiced SweeteDad for 30 minutes.	[01:13]
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kakobrekla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-10-2014#863189 < PFT! > http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-10-2014#865319	[01:14]
assbot	Logged on 08-10-2014 03:44:52; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i really trust him with 6 but motherfucker is already leading. << bwahahaha WAY AHEAD	[01:14]
assbot	Logged on 08-10-2014 22:01:06; Quinn_: Yeah i think i'll stick to working with trustworthy people like Tapeke and blockchain! Seeya!	[01:14]
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mike_c	;;gettrust tapeke	[01:15]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mike_c to user tapeke: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mike_c&dest=tapeke \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tapeke \| Rated since: never	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla you don't understand how the world works.	[01:15]
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kakobrekla	bignum is mininum.	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	trust is a feeling! investing is a +ev activity for the amateur, just like people make a profit growing tomatoes on their windowsil. sticks and stones could break your bones but words is what really matters. etc.	[01:16]
xanthyos	my dad has lung cancer	[01:17]
xanthyos	beat pancreatic	[01:17]
xanthyos	got lung	[01:17]
xanthyos	2 years	[01:17]
xanthyos	and i have been stuck in the chapel perilous in some schizoaffective bullshit for 8 days unable to leave the house or bed	[01:17]
xanthyos	so i think that deserves a negative assbot rating	[01:17]
xanthyos	i'm too crazy to live	[01:17]
xanthyos	farewell	[01:17]
BingoBoingo	xanthyos: Sucks.	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	xanthyos this too shall pass eh.	[01:18]
xanthyos	maybe danielpbarron is right when he says i'm brain damaged and i can't trust my own judgment	[01:18]
xanthyos	i'm better off dead	[01:18]
xanthyos	i might buy a bottle of vodka and walk into the woods	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	wouldja simmer down ?	[01:18]
thickasthieves	nonsense	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	i never heard of any man's post pancreatic lung cancer giving their offspring braindamage	[01:19]
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BingoBoingo	vodka and the woods sounds like a fun way to get a hangover.	[01:19]
kakobrekla	x maybe danielpbarron is right when he says i'm brain damaged and i can't trust my own judgment < its good you figured this before buying a bottle of vodka and walking into the woods. just listen to us.	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	and that without even considering the part where you were born before he got it.	[01:19]
BingoBoingo	i'm too crazy to live << No such thing.	[01:20]
xanthyos	A LIFE WITHOUT SUFFERING	[01:21]
xanthyos	i haven't had a girlfriend since 2004	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	how about steve irvin, BingoBoingo ? that dude was too crazy to live.	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	xanthyos why not ?	[01:21]
xanthyos	because i'm too afraid if i got a girlfriend i'd just end up BEATING her like the last one	[01:21]
xanthyos	how's that for honest?	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	uh	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	so get one that likes it.	[01:21]
xanthyos	i dont' like to do it	[01:21]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: No, he was too stupid and the stingray too wily	[01:21]
xanthyos	ti's not a sadomasochistic thing	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	well work with me here eh.	[01:22]
xanthyos	it's impulse control	[01:22]
bounce	get a gf that could hit you right back, and will if you mope	[01:22]
mike_c	so go see a shrink?	[01:22]
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mircea_popescu	yeah, basically, eiother bounce or my solution works.	[01:22]
xanthyos	have one, but missed my most recent appointment due to anxiety	[01:22]
bounce	plenty help with all sorts of things. good of you to know where (some of) your weaknesses are. doing something about it is the next step.	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	it's not "impulse control", once she hands you your ass twice a week for a month	[01:22]
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bounce	and of course, it's always darkest right before dawn.	[01:23]
thickasthieves	get someone to help you with motivating and taking care of yourself to do what you need to do	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	honestly i'd rather go to some full contact sport thing than a shrink if the problem is violence.	[01:23]
thickasthieves	maybe in addition to the shrink	[01:23]
thestringpuller	xanthyos: one of my closest friends has schizoaffective disorder. there was a point when he was having tons of episodes everyday that he couldn't really leave the house. But he's doing better now because better treatment is out. Just stick with it mang.	[01:24]
bounce	close in-person friends >> self-"medication"	[01:24]
xanthyos	the ocd and borderline personality disorder are the truly disabling things	[01:24]
xanthyos	i can deal with being schizo	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	wha do you do for a living anyway ?	[01:24]
xanthyos	those symptoms are mild	[01:24]
xanthyos	in 2001 i was diagnosed "gravely disabled" and have been receiving social security since	[01:25]
kakobrekla	being a test subject	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[01:25]
xanthyos	i'm one of the entitled socialist dregs that bitcoin is going to weed out	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	lmao how do you make it in here without wanting to bash people's heads in ?	[01:25]
xanthyos	and i'm fine with it	[01:25]
mike_c	not if you buy bitcoin with your SS check	[01:25]
xanthyos	heh	[01:25]
hanbot	xanthyos http://thewhet.net/2012/this-is-it/ << written for pretty much where you are.	[01:26]
assbot	This is it \| The Whet	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	hanbot wait, you got schizopersonalify disorder and ocde/whatever too ?	[01:26]
hanbot	nope	[01:27]
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mircea_popescu	btw, im kinda surprised none of the evil-overgovernment conspiracy theorists have identified the oecd as the mechanism.	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	it seems rather obvious.	[01:27]
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bounce	there's more ways and reasons to feel hopelessly inadequate and unfit for life	[01:28]
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bounce	shit, every version of the DSM has MORE reasons	[01:28]
hanbot	i don't put too much stock in the whole dsm classification stuffs.	[01:28]
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bounce	V got a little out of hand, making it less than useful	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	bounce or less than useless, as the case may be	[01:29]
xanthyos	i just don't want to spend hours a week comparing the lengths of my fingernails anymore.	[01:29]
xanthyos	it's not profitable	[01:29]
bounce	worse than. possibly quite a lot worse, depending on how much of a party the insurers are going to throw with it	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	xanthyos so do something useful then.	[01:30]
bounce	so get out and do something. maybe some moderately physically demanding job	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	why moderately ?	[01:30]
bounce	gotta start somewhere.	[01:31]
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mircea_popescu	lol you mean, first time, single nail ?	[01:31]
thickasthieves	i think i mentioned pot before, but it doesnt suit you	[01:31]
bounce	more like something that'll get you nice and tired for a good night's sleep but not something that's so demanding it's easy to give up on	[01:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00074747 = 10.3151 BTC [+] {2}	[01:32]
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thickasthieves	a fam member uses it for his psych issues, along with some meds	[01:32]
mircea_popescu	hanbot great post btw.	[01:32]
thickasthieves	he's obsessed with making a home recording studio currently	[01:32]
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hanbot	ty kindly mircea_popescu	[01:32]
mircea_popescu	thickasthieves i knew a guy who basically had a soundstage, because he wanted to record all his fucking sessions, which he then catalogued and manically preserved for old age.	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	died before being 40.	[01:33]
thickasthieves	it's an endless hobby to obsess on	[01:33]
thickasthieves	b	[01:33]
thickasthieves	very antisocial too	[01:34]
[]bot	Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,764.	[01:34]
bounce	the socials become rockstars and die at 27 from an overdosis	[01:34]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.2409 BTC. Current weight: 94,322.	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	check it out, that's a choke ain't it. 2 on >200 1 on < 600	[01:35]
bounce	hanbot: s/treacle/trickle/ ?	[01:38]
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hanbot	bounce treacle, sugar refining byproduct. a brownish, sickly-sweet gunk. perhaps a little awkward in there ::shrugs::	[01:40]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[01:40]
bounce	alright, if that's how you wanted it.	[01:40]
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danielpbarron	;;rate xanthyos 4 face-to-face associate; 10+ year relationship; https://twitter.com/xanthyos	[01:49]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user xanthyos has changed from -3 to 4.	[01:50]
assbot	Tweets met antwoorden van xanthyos (@xanthyos) \| Twitter	[01:50]
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bounce	cute toys: http://www.dolphinics.com/products/	[01:51]
assbot	Dolphin Express IX products - Low latency	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron you know that feed is protected	[01:51]
danielpbarron	ya, so?	[01:51]
bounce	protection against the uncool people	[01:52]
BingoBoingo	The US really should start selling ketamine like aspirin	[01:52]
danielpbarron	i think you need to be in his L1 to get access :p	[01:52]
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BingoBoingo	;;bc,stats	[01:57]
gribble	Current Blocks: 324464 \| Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 \| Next Difficulty In: 111 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 19 hours, 9 minutes, and 55 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 35121138498.0 \| Estimated Percent Change: 1.32629	[01:57]
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asciilifeform	bounce: Dolphin Express << very neat. but golden toilet.	[02:00]
bounce	oh?	[02:00]
asciilifeform	'if you have to ask price, you can't afford this'	[02:00]
bounce	there's that. sort-of implied by the high finance and military as proposed applications.	[02:01]
asciilifeform	bounce: if you want this (as i do) built it by hand, with fpga-to-pcie board.	[02:01]
asciilifeform	that's all it is, anyway	[02:01]
asciilifeform	they're dressing this as 'enterprise' turdware, yes.	[02:02]
*	bounce doesn't begin to have the soldering skills for that. or the rest of the ee skills. will have to work on that.	[02:03]
asciilifeform	no need to solder, surplus fpga demo board off 'ebay'.	[02:03]
asciilifeform	physically-identical to this unit, quite possibly.	[02:03]
bounce	O_O	[02:03]
asciilifeform	it's just some glue logic between pcie and external cabling.	[02:04]
asciilifeform	with possibly a little dma magic on transmitting and receiving ends.	[02:04]
asciilifeform	people who are not satisfied with '1024 chickens' often buy something like this.	[02:04]
asciilifeform	you still get same chickens (pc cpus) but now in a shared-memory harness.	[02:04]
bounce	they can charge quite a lot before it becomes more economical to buy non-chicken cpus	[02:05]
asciilifeform	non-chicken << you can't buy them.	[02:06]
asciilifeform	they don't exist. no one has made any such thing for 20+ years.	[02:06]
bounce	you don't like sparc and ppc either then?	[02:07]
asciilifeform	bounce: read why s. cray uttered the 'chickens' phrase.	[02:07]
asciilifeform	some jobs simply do not parallelize.	[02:08]
asciilifeform	as in, mathematically.	[02:08]
asciilifeform	the engineers' answer seems to have been, 'well don't do those jobs'	[02:08]
bounce	true enough. and so the best you can have there today AIUI is a 5+ GHz IBM thing in a massively overpriced package	[02:09]
asciilifeform	just as when musical notes appeared, music that was difficult to write down with notes - perhaps, disappeared.	[02:09]
asciilifeform	big fat fucking deal, 5.	[02:09]
BingoBoingo	some jobs simply do not parallelize. << Single network interface with packet filter	[02:09]
asciilifeform	2x speedup, 200x price markup.	[02:09]
bounce	that gives a lot of headroom for fancy interconnects, no? :-p	[02:10]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: given that tcp/ip lets you fuck with ordering, that trivially parallelizes. at least, as fast as you can physically clock the bits off the wire to individual comparison registers, and then back on	[02:11]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: 'narus corp.' (il. they supply a good chunk of nsa's hardware infrastructure) sells these.	[02:11]
asciilifeform	if you need one - straight to them. take a few $m.	[02:11]
asciilifeform	back to subject:	[02:12]
asciilifeform	if you have $maxint and want to convert it to parallelizable number crunching - plenty of people are ready to help.	[02:13]
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asciilifeform	you'll end up with a small underground city full of intel, amd, whatever boxen.	[02:13]
asciilifeform	if you have $maxint and want to grind a non-parallelizable problem - god help you.	[02:13]
asciilifeform	it won't even suffice to build new fabs	[02:14]
asciilifeform	you'll need to find new chemists. that are (if you're lucky) in their cradles right now.	[02:14]
asciilifeform	and wait a few decades.	[02:14]
asciilifeform	and then - maybe you have something.	[02:14]
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bounce	what's the fastest the labs (not fabs) can do now? 60GHz or so with graphene 'tors?	[02:16]
asciilifeform	60GHz of what?	[02:16]
asciilifeform	of 'not' gate?	[02:16]
asciilifeform	fat lot of good that'll do you.	[02:16]
asciilifeform	these are sold for rf applications.	[02:17]
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asciilifeform	and once you connect two or more - here's your propagation delay.	[02:17]
asciilifeform	welcome to 1975.	[02:17]
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pete_dushenski_	damn, mircea_popescu is on a roll today.	[02:18]
pete_dushenski_	this block size talk really lit the fire!	[02:18]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: yet somehow the bitcoin crowd is supposed to have forgotten why it got into bitcoin in the first place, and apply the inflationary economy it's ran off from here << they didn't forget as much as were attracted by the new shininess in the first place. now new thing is shiny.	[02:19]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: so average bandwidth in US (where Gavin is based) is 10Mbit. An incearse of .5 per year is like what 15 next then 22.5 after that etc etc <<< in 20 years the per-block subsidy will be just about 40 bitcents. at that same time, gavin's block size will be 110 mb. << whoa.	[02:21]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: and i don't care specifically because we want bitcoin to take over the financial, and with it the political power in the world. all of it. << so that's why we're here!	[02:22]
*	pete_dushenski has purpose now.	[02:22]
bounce	only now?	[02:22]
pete_dushenski	wait, no, not purpose, causes!	[02:22]
pete_dushenski	i should really start reading contravex	[02:23]
*	bounce thinks of a 'pinky' joke, but fails... like every night.	[02:23]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: moreover, the way net neutrality etc is going, not to mention the realpolitics of you know, actual wars, financial or otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising if in 20 years the average us citizen is on dialup << only then will their derping be tamed. when it actually costs something.	[02:24]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: and incidentally exactly, but EXACTLY how idiots just like gavin end up with mortgages they can't pay. << such forecasting these guys.	[02:24]
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bounce	don't be silly. how did you think ma bell got to be big? it wasn't from lack of traffic!	[02:25]
pete_dushenski	which brings up gavin's latest, yes, make that his THIRD comment on contravex today:	[02:25]
pete_dushenski	http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-30668	[02:25]
assbot	How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski	[02:25]
pete_dushenski	gavin must drive a lexus because he's definitely in the pursuit of perfection.	[02:26]
pete_dushenski	bounce ma bell?	[02:26]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Notice how he never addresses bandwidth growth seriously	[02:26]
bounce	ring ring. those guys.	[02:26]
pete_dushenski	"And then divide by… uh, I think 5, because Pieter’s libsecp256k1 code is 5 times as fast as OpenSSL." << love this line by gavin.	[02:27]
pete_dushenski	"uhh let me make up numbers and not even mask the fact that they're made up because i'm typing in my retardedness."	[02:28]
pete_dushenski	chief scientist should be spending his time figuring out a plaintext emoticon for "drool"	[02:28]
pete_dushenski	!b 3	[02:28]
assbot	Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/32JAMK3.txt )	[02:28]
bounce	those numbers are not that important. he could be off by a factor of ten and nobody'd notice. the "paying attention to the needs of EVERYBODY" is killer, though. in light of his committing those same EVERYBODY on upgrading their connectivity every year.	[02:30]
Apocalyptic	pete_dushenski: Notice how he never addresses bandwidth growth seriously // this is indeed a worthy issue to address	[02:30]
BingoBoingo	Apocalyptic: I mean right now it would be feasible to put a Bitcoin node pretty much anywhere with a wired internet connection other than Nepal or the Desert, yet... this constant bandwidth grow really only happen consistently in data centers.	[02:32]
thestringpuller	actually you could probably get away with 56k satellite phone connection in nepal	[02:32]
mircea_popescu	dude i go make some porn websites with stolen false names for five minutes and when i return the log scrolled off my desk	[02:33]
BingoBoingo	http://gawker.com/my-failed-attempt-to-suck-the-walmart-flavored-blood-of-1642497737 << New Yorkers forced to confront real America.	[02:33]
assbot	My Failed Attempt to Suck the Walmart-Flavored Blood of Real America	[02:33]
thestringpuller	if you had the block chain already downloaded	[02:33]
BingoBoingo	thestringpuller: What took me so long was building a full txindex.	[02:33]
thestringpuller	the reindexing is killer	[02:33]
Apocalyptic	BingoBoingo, pretty much, I wasn't being sarcastic	[02:34]
BingoBoingo	Apocalyptic: I know.	[02:34]
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BingoBoingo	It's the derps who see adds about hosting prices falling or staying constant and the connections offered increasing... Don't realize how infrequently... people who keep their own machines upgrade their connections... Unless they are running a data center.	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	some jobs simply do not parallelize. << i have trouble coming to terms with this concept. wtf do you mean ? they'd better parallelize or else can't work on a turing machine	[02:36]
asciilifeform	;;google perfectly sequential problem	[02:37]
gribble	P-complete - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Stackelberg competition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Sequential Equilibrium and Perfect Equilibrium ... - Cornell University:	[02:37]
asciilifeform	trivial example: sha(sha(sha..............	[02:37]
asciilifeform	(notice i didn't say 'mining btc')	[02:37]
mircea_popescu	sha(sha still paralelizes to some degree. it gotta	[02:37]
mircea_popescu	rainbow tables. something.	[02:37]
asciilifeform	not everything 'gotta'..	[02:37]
mircea_popescu	but yeah, i see what you mean	[02:38]
asciilifeform	http://stackoverflow.com/questions/806569/whats-the-opposite-of-embarrassingly-parallel	[02:38]
assbot	multithreading - What's the opposite of "embarrassingly parallel"? - Stack Overflow	[02:38]
thestringpuller	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2im4zv/gavin_andresen_proposes_bitcoin_hard_fork_to/cl3pga6	[02:38]
assbot	justusranvier comments on Gavin Andresen Proposes Bitcoin Hard Fork to Address Network Scalability	[02:38]
BingoBoingo	http://valleyball.co/ << Mega lulz, fantasy Venture capitalism	[02:39]
assbot	Valleyball - a fantasy VC league	[02:39]
mircea_popescu	they didn't forget as much as were attracted by the new shininess in the first place. now new thing is shiny. <<< or, moreover, aren't even bitcoin in any sense. notice the earlier guy with his strange "irc is insecure" notions. he probably thinks he's involved. his choices and mental processes however do not reflect that.	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	wait, no, not purpose, causes! << lol selfpwnt	[02:40]
thickasthieves	;;ticker	[02:41]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 355.82, Best ask: 356.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.16000, Last trade: 356.98, 24 hour volume: 28804.88232732, 24 hour low: 326.93, 24 hour high: 357.98, 24 hour vwap: 342.641644065	[02:41]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: better me than you!	[02:41]
thickasthieves	;;estimate	[02:41]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 35106354396.7 based on data since last change \| 35353044324.1 based on data for last three days	[02:41]
thickasthieves	meh	[02:41]
pete_dushenski	thickasthieves: so much for that diff spike eh?	[02:41]
thickasthieves	i always assume the spikes are a new batch of miners testing then shipping	[02:42]
thickasthieves	cuz i am human and must invent gods	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	"And then divide by… uh, I think 5, because Pieter’s libsecp256k1 code is 5 times as fast as OpenSSL << honestly, at this point i'd want everyone to give a good look to libsecp256k1	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	really curious what turdage lurks therein	[02:42]
thestringpuller	can reddit really get more dumb?	[02:42]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: hmm. maybe gavin is trying to tip us off below the radar of his handlers?	[02:44]
pete_dushenski	maybe he has a soul!!11	[02:44]
thestringpuller	"Thank you for posting that article! Brother Taaki knocks it out of the park." << like really	[02:44]
thestringpuller	"Brother Taaki" ~_~	[02:44]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea, but the performance issue triggers my everpresend paranoid suspicion	[02:44]
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mircea_popescu	justusranvier that's a rather intelligent point.	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	probably wasted in the venue, but i do kinda see you as this barefoot preacher to the huns.	[02:45]
mats_cd03	he has his cult and we have ours	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	mats_cd03 no. they have their cults and we have a culture.	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	the difference is staggering.	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	course... we don't dance nearly as well.	[02:46]
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justusranvier	mircea_popescu: Which point?	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	"BRANSON, MO—Among the things that I dislike most in this world are patriotism, religion, tourist traps, country music, and the Walmart corporation. So I traveled to the one area of this nation that captures them all. It did not go as planned."	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	uh that's a weird trail mix..	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	justusranvier http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-10-2014#865561	[02:47]
assbot	Logged on 08-10-2014 23:36:46; thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2im4zv/gavin_andresen_proposes_bitcoin_hard_fork_to/cl3pga6	[02:47]
BingoBoingo	You know at this point the shit Gavin proposes on the roadmap has to suggest a three letter agency gave him an explosive buttplug.	[02:49]
thestringpuller	That reminds me of Man on Fire.	[02:49]
justusranvier	Oh, that one. Sorry, having less-than-optimal connectivity to my bouncer right now	[02:49]
BingoBoingo	Good movie, Denzel at his best.	[02:49]
thestringpuller	Where Denzel puts a C4 block in the rectum of a police chief	[02:49]
mircea_popescu	ss your heart" Southern affectation of intense, polite agreement with everything that makes a mockery of any attempt at challenging conversation. Even when Bucky started ranting about various street artists and why they are or are not sellouts, Berry would strenuously agree, despite the fact that—and I don't think I'm speaking out of turn here—the street art scene in Branson is rather limited. Banksy's new piece? "	[02:50]
mircea_popescu	Uh HUH!" Dan Witz's mosh pit paintings? "AbsoLUTEly!" This is actually a clever form of communications ju-jitsu, because, over time, you start adopting the same affectation just to fit in, until one day you hear yourself saying "That ghost tour was AMAZING!" and you wonder if you have lost your identity somewhere along Highway 86.	[02:50]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[02:50]
mircea_popescu	dude, that article's something else. buncha tiresome hippies rolling their eyes at b uncha tiresome fargo inhabitants.	[02:50]
mircea_popescu	how the fuck do the gawker idjits figure they're any better than the ozarks idiots just through being a different color...	[02:50]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Best part. The authors and subjects... all white as gypsum	[02:51]
justusranvier	This was a more important thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ighvq/a_scalability_roadmap_the_bitcoin_foundation/cl2fbhx	[02:51]
assbot	justusranvier comments on A Scalability Roadmap \| The Bitcoin Foundation	[02:51]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i didn't mean that color. i just meant, red prius roling headlights at white prius for being such a mainstream pos car.	[02:52]
BingoBoingo	Ah	[02:52]
justusranvier	go a few parents up to finnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarting po	[02:52]
justusranvier	stupid flakey wifi...	[02:52]
mircea_popescu	lmao your wifi did that ?!	[02:53]
BingoBoingo	Even thermos doubts Gavin https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ighvq/a_scalability_roadmap_the_bitcoin_foundation/cl25hmw	[02:53]
assbot	theymos comments on A Scalability Roadmap \| The Bitcoin Foundation	[02:53]
pete_dushenski	my third response to gavin for the day: http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-30754	[02:53]
mircea_popescu	anyway, i know what you're saying, it's sensible, but also a very hard problem.	[02:53]
assbot	How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski	[02:54]
pete_dushenski	and i'm off to have two lovely romanians make me a home-cooked meal!	[02:54]
justusranvier	I have a... nonstandard irc client configuration	[02:54]
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justusranvier	I have a vm running Xorg on a VPS, and I connect this desktop remotely using Spice protocol	[02:55]
justusranvier	Spice doesn't handle dropped packets very well...	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	justusranvier so then what happens actually is that if you press a key it sends a packet over and if you depress it similarly	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	and so if it misses a packet in there you just keep on typing n ?	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	this boggles the mind	[02:57]
justusranvier	apparently so	[02:57]
mircea_popescu	it may be the worst design i ever heard of	[02:57]
bounce	"house of cards" is still industry best practice. carry on.	[02:58]
justusranvier	On the plus side, this arrangement means I can run Skype in a virtualized sandbox that's far away from my real desktop	[02:59]
BingoBoingo	http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ssf/2014/10/sayreville_high_school_football_hazing_parent_reveals_sexual_nature_of_locker_room_ritual_exclusive.html	[03:00]
assbot	Sayreville football parent reveals sexual nature of alleged locker room hazing ritual (Exclusive) \| NJ.com	[03:00]
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thestringpuller	;;google web of trust database	[03:08]
gribble	Check links against the Web of Trust database - Meta Stack Exchange: ; WOT Services - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; "World's Largest Public Hacker Database" \| Forum \| WOT (Web of Trust):	[03:08]
thestringpuller	!s web of trust database	[03:08]
assbot	3 results for 'web of trust database' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=web+of+trust+database	[03:08]
thestringpuller	nanotube: how come I can wget the downloads on http://cahier2.ww7.be/bitcoinmirror/otc/today/ ?	[03:09]
assbot	Index of /bitcoinmirror/otc/today	[03:09]
thestringpuller	i keep getting permission denied... :(	[03:10]
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thestringpuller	nvm. stupid me	[03:10]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/identitymind-global-add-25th-bitcoin-client/	[03:16]
BingoBoingo	Just talked to the lawyer. As long as I stay patient I jsut might win this case through attrition, the DA... just... can't... retain... licensed... lawyers	[03:20]
thestringpuller	wait what?	[03:21]
thestringpuller	you're on trial?	[03:21]
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asciilifeform	!up ninjashogun lol	[03:25]
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ninjashogun	hi, asciilifeform	[03:26]
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ninjashogun	bored?	[03:27]
thestringpuller	i am	[03:27]
mats_cd03	your business proposals suck	[03:27]
thestringpuller	but are amusing	[03:27]
mats_cd03	i want you to know that ninjashogun	[03:28]
ninjashogun	mats_cd03, other people have been fine with them. It's better to have proposals and not want them than not to have them, for most people in a position to seriously consider them. (called 'dealflow').	[03:28]
BingoBoingo	The20YearIRCloud: Still the misdemeanor	[03:29]
thestringpuller	LOL	[03:29]
thestringpuller	i'm thestringpuller	[03:29]
thestringpuller	no The20YearIRCloud	[03:29]
thestringpuller	not*	[03:29]
thestringpuller	lol	[03:29]
BingoBoingo	* thestringpuller, yeah autocomplete	[03:29]
thestringpuller	:D	[03:29]
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ninjashogun	what's new, asciilifeform? what's been keeping you busy?	[03:30]
BingoBoingo	Long day full of turning wood into mulch	[03:30]
mats_cd03	you have no skills, nothing to offer besides talk without substance	[03:33]
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mats_cd03	you should instead turn your attention to leeching from the government as others like you	[03:33]
asciilifeform	mats_cd03: actually he does have one thing to offer - the truth about why he came here. but i don't expect to hear it.	[03:33]
mats_cd03	you'll have a better return on investment than derping here, i promise	[03:34]
TheNewDeal	TomServo what was the site with the charts such as btc/gold btc/wti ?	[03:34]
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ninjashogun	mats_cd03, (and others) I found this article interesting and very relevant to the culture you're buliding here. http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8425501	[03:36]
assbot	Trouble at the Koolaid Point \| Hacker News	[03:36]
mats_cd03	i have belonged to 2 cults prior to this one	[03:36]
mats_cd03	i left my faith behind at age 11 and enlisted at 18	[03:36]
kakobrekla	this is a cult?!	[03:37]
mats_cd03	so forgive me if i think youre trite	[03:37]
ninjashogun	mats_cd03, it's hrad to see what you get out of making statements like this but you expressed to me privately that you were dissatisfied with your work and had to jump through mental hoops to justify how important it might turn out to be in hypothetical (and unlikely) situations. The truth is you could have a bigger impact doing something else, and you know this. (You brought it my attention.)	[03:37]
mats_cd03	huh	[03:37]
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ninjashogun	asciilifeform, you should have a read at http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point -- I found it very enlgihtening.	[03:38]
dub	its banal and whiny	[03:39]
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mats_cd03	i'm a disgruntled IT slave and you offer to enslave me instead	[03:39]
asciilifeform	aha the doxxing crap	[03:39]
mats_cd03	how generous of you	[03:39]
ninjashogun	mats_cd03, what do you mean "I offer to enslave you instead"? I didn't offer anything but told you you should do something in general terms, i.e. whatever you come up with. I didn't have a specific suggestion for oyu.	[03:40]
asciilifeform	mats_cd03: see, you have to understand, poor fella's just trying to do a job here. station chief said, 'recruit mole, your budget is initially $0.' so he's gotta do it, or at least fail convincingly.	[03:40]
BingoBoingo	ninjashogun: https://weev.livejournal.com/409913.html	[03:40]
assbot	weev: "Women in tech", doxing, Kathy Sierra, and the koolaid.	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	ninjashogun "others" who ?	[03:41]
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ninjashogun	asciilifeform, tihs is exactly why I linked you http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point -- saying this is literally exactly the same as the DMCA allegation. Nobody knows hwere you came up with it.	[03:41]
asciilifeform	'nobody.'	[03:41]
asciilifeform	http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=ninjashogun	[03:41]
assbot	Rating Details for User 'ninjashogun'	[03:42]
BingoBoingo	!b5	[03:42]
ninjashogun	asciilifeform, yes in the sense that several people here have said things like "I read thorugh that twice and don't see where USG comes in"	[03:42]
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mats_cd03	i've observed both sides of the humint game and ninjashogun is just a failed mba	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	!up SweeteDad	[03:42]
mats_cd03	anxious to con someone with talent for which to substitute as his own	[03:42]
-assbot-	You voiced SweeteDad for 30 minutes.	[03:42]
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ninjashogun	mats_cd03, I didn't try to hire anyone here!	[03:42]
asciilifeform	sufficiently abject failure can look like other kind of sufficiently abject failure	[03:42]
asciilifeform	like the static on a screen contains many 'movies'	[03:42]
BingoBoingo	!b 2	[03:42]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/27Z74B5.txt )	[03:43]
asciilifeform	humint bugger has to tend, befriend, schoozle, bamboozle - before he is ever permitted to hire. at least in the civilized world - can't speak for crazyland	[03:43]
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mircea_popescu	yeah hiring for that is like hiring for the press	[03:44]
mircea_popescu	i doubt anyone ever gets paid anymore.	[03:44]
ninjashogun	asciilifeform, you are literally talking exactly as described in the article I've just linked. This makes you feel better I guess?	[03:44]
*	asciilifeform looks forward to seeing butterfly collections fill up with folks banging on the door of the wot, 'i'm not a spammer! here's 150 friends who swear! and none of them are in, it's because you drink koolaid'	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	it is kinda lulzy.	[03:46]
asciilifeform	fresh butterfly milk.	[03:46]
ninjashogun	asciilifeform, actually, scammers don't hvae a problem building up a WoT reputation as has been shown repeatedly through ultimately failed ponzi schemes, fraudulent exchanges, etc.	[03:46]
asciilifeform	wot is a stochastic system, like thermodynamics.	[03:47]
ninjashogun	asciilifeform, if I wanted to build up a WoT reputation I would just make a new nick and do some low-value transactions.	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	lol	[03:47]
asciilifeform	the air in your fist can heat up to 1000c, theoretically, by itself	[03:47]
asciilifeform	but go and wait for it.	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	this entire "o hey, X event is exactly like Y dumbass article i found" is pretty cool tho.	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	shaman sitting on the steps of white house. "and now president will come out" obama pops out. shaman "i control the presidency!!!1"	[03:47]
ninjashogun	mircea_popescu, it's pretty hard not to see how making random USG accusations isn't exactly the same as using a made-up hot-button "she used DMCA take-downs"?	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	because correlation may not be causation, but definitely is an academic career	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	ninjashogun things you don't understand and things that are random don't share much common ground.	[03:48]
ninjashogun	mircea_popescu, that is a lot of negatives :)	[03:48]
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ninjashogun	You're essentially saying everything I don't understand is deterministic (non-stochastic). Well, okay.	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	no, i'm not.	[03:50]
ninjashogun	What I mean is that that is the meaning of the sentence "things you don't understand and things that are random don't share much common ground" gramatically. (though i understand you're just being rhetorical). after you factor out the double negatives.	[03:50]
asciilifeform	ninjashogun: let's start with the basics. you come here, knowing that the sole purpose of allowing you to speak is, more or less, public vivisection for our pleasure. and yet you come. this suggests that you are carrying out your duties to earn your bread.	[03:51]
ninjashogun	I don't htink that's the sole purpose of letting me speak.	[03:51]
TheNewDeal	;;estimate	[03:51]
asciilifeform	i sympathize with any poor sod who grunts in a salt mine doing something bloody ludicrous and humiliating, but this has to break some sort of record.	[03:51]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 35099821874.7 based on data since last change \| 35178251876.6 based on data for last three days	[03:51]
TheNewDeal	;;bc,stats	[03:52]
gribble	Current Blocks: 324475 \| Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 \| Next Difficulty In: 100 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 16 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 35099821874.7 \| Estimated Percent Change: 1.26479	[03:52]
ninjashogun	I think you trolled hard enough for a couple of months to move on to something more constructive. Even weev did.	[03:52]
asciilifeform	!down ninjashogun	[03:52]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, this chick is so overdramatic.	[03:52]
asciilifeform	if someone has another purpose for him - let's have it	[03:52]
BingoBoingo	Shave the feathers?	[03:53]
TheNewDeal	If you ever need a spamgun for hire, you know where to find him	[03:53]
asciilifeform	we all know where the button is, yes.	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	eh guy's not actually useful, just derpy.	[03:54]
asciilifeform	except, i suspect that he rarely goes hungry.	[03:54]
asciilifeform	hell, when we turn his microphone off, we're doing him a favour. perhaps they let him clock out then.	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	2. ignore them (they escalate, make your life more miserable, DDoS, ruin your career, etc. i.e. They Win) <<< wait, wut ?	[03:54]
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asciilifeform	you're not correct that I have any connection with the u.s. government. (or any other government). Other than holding citizenship and in the interests of absolute full disclosure, I served briefly in the military. This isn't text or me saying it	[03:54]
asciilifeform	lulzies	[03:54]
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mircea_popescu	such nonsense, really. people this frail have no business in the public view. take a mcd job and be happy there	[03:55]
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BingoBoingo	Plus to that is McD's is probably more a technology business than most startups	[03:56]
BingoBoingo	A lot of automation there	[03:56]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[03:56]
mircea_popescu	“That’s awful, but you gotta admit… hilarious!” Once again, high-fives all around. This is the world we have created.	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	dude everyone fancies themselves a "we" and a world creator	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	anyway, enough of that derpage.	[03:57]
bounce	using a lot of automated (and suitably squaddie-proofed) tools does not a "technology company" make	[03:57]
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bounce	linux and wireless is a neverending three stack soap opera	[03:58]
BingoBoingo	bounce, but they fuel even more automated and idiotproof machines	[03:58]
asciilifeform	bounce: only really an issue on laptops, where you can't install a civilized replacement for $gizmo	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	well... usb.	[04:00]
asciilifeform	then it isn't a laptop, but a crate of crapolade on wires	[04:00]
asciilifeform	that, e.g., you can't switch off (how does the usb dongle behave on power-low mode? etc)	[04:01]
asciilifeform	I think you can improve your device by communicating with the host in any other way (LED and webcam, speaker and microphone, whatever), other than as a USB device, which I don't think is the most secure interface for your usage case. No, I didn't have anyone else tell me to tell you this!	[04:01]
asciilifeform	lol!	[04:01]
asciilifeform	i can't resist!	[04:01]
bounce	so !up and at'em	[04:02]
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asciilifeform	!up ninjashogun	[04:02]
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kakobrekla	i took out the wifi card in one of my laptops. im sure i can install another card.	[04:02]
BingoBoingo	reeses: 'Muricanized AK http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/bcam02.jpg << Nao Pink	[04:03]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: quite a few of the newer boxes deliberately choke if you install an aftermarket card (if you can even find one that fits the slot)	[04:03]
bounce	needs more hello kitty decals	[04:03]
ninjashogun	this is the actual pastebin, so we're not being selective - http://pastebin.com/hT9RJN0S	[04:04]
assbot	you're not correct that I have any connection with the u.s. govern - Pastebin.com	[04:04]
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ninjashogun	thanks, assbot lol	[04:04]
asciilifeform	right	[04:04]
ninjashogun	that is not an actual title, just the first line that was already quoted.	[04:04]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Most laptops with bios locks on card models accept any mini-pci-e wireless cards in the second, cellular modem mini-pcie with just a bit of tape to cover a pin	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	http://data.whicdn.com/images/15549266/hello-kitty-580x886_large.jpg ?	[04:05]
mats_cd03	such praise for asciilifeform	[04:05]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: not this one.	[04:05]
BingoBoingo	Ah	[04:05]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: at any rate, these are legion.	[04:06]
asciilifeform	the correct solution would be to quit doing work that requires laptops, but i cannot afford this.	[04:06]
bounce	what? no. build your own laptop. :-p	[04:07]
bounce	bunny huang did. well, the mainboard part. the rest is still "some assembly required".	[04:08]
asciilifeform	bounce: that is not a laptop.	[04:08]
asciilifeform	a turd is not a sausage, even if you eat with relish.	[04:08]
bounce	well, a SMOD then.	[04:08]
asciilifeform	bounce: http://oglaf.com/delusionist	[04:09]
assbot	Delusionist	[04:09]
ninjashogun	asciilifeform, that is a hilarious cartoon. the punchline is great.	[04:11]
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BingoBoingo	!up moldysnizz	[04:23]
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moldysnizz	Well, hi there	[04:24]
BingoBoingo	Hello	[04:24]
moldysnizz	I was just about to bitch that I funked up my gpg key, but it seems to be working again.	[04:24]
moldysnizz	Had to make a new one, the old had expired.	[04:25]
moldysnizz	Not really sure what the propper protocal is.	[04:25]
BingoBoingo	Don't put expiration dates on the keys?	[04:26]
moldysnizz	Hmmm	[04:26]
moldysnizz	OK	[04:26]
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ninjashogun	guys, I've got to go, it's very late here. thanks for the up and the links, I'll talk to you next time.	[04:27]
TheNewDeal	;;calc (21.35-1.4)/98	[04:27]
gribble	0.203571428571	[04:27]
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TheNewDeal	;;calc (21.35-1.4)/98*3600	[04:27]
gribble	732.857142857	[04:27]
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moldysnizz	Crap. Gotta go to the store before beer sales end.	[04:29]
moldysnizz	Get some shit tickets too!	[04:29]
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BingoBoingo	moldysnizz: Well, get to work on that	[04:30]
TheNewDeal	;;tslb	[04:30]
gribble	Time since last block: 29 minutes and 3 seconds	[04:30]
moldysnizz	heh. Ya, it's getting cold out.	[04:30]
moldysnizz	Plus, beer.	[04:30]
moldysnizz	When I get back may I bug you about gpg stuff? I was hope'n to test some crap out. Maybe work on a howto sheet for nubs.	[04:32]
BingoBoingo	moldysnizz: If I'm awake.	[04:32]
BingoBoingo	Now that cazalla's back trying to get back to 'Murica time for the qntra	[04:33]
moldysnizz	Rock'n catch ya later BingoBoingo	[04:33]
moldysnizz	I don't know what any of that means.	[04:33]
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BingoBoingo	moldysnizz: There's a lot to catch up on.	[04:35]
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TomServo	TheNewDeal: https://www.kimonolabs.com/bitcoin/correlator	[04:35]
assbot	kimono : Bitcoin Correlator	[04:35]
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moldysnizz	OK, I'll be back in about an hour.	[04:35]
moldysnizz	With beer.	[04:35]
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TheNewDeal	gracias	[04:35]
moldysnizz	Oh. I'm teathered to my phone. Need znc, must logout	[04:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00074202 = 13.8387 BTC [-] {2}	[04:36]
TomServo	de nada	[04:36]
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nanotube	nanotube: how come I can wget the downloads on http://cahier2.ww7.be/bitcoinmirror/otc/today/ <- i think you probably mean "cant", and the answer is i don't know, neofutur keeps that mirror. you can wget from bitcoin-otc.com/otc/	[04:59]
assbot	Index of /bitcoinmirror/otc/today	[04:59]
thestringpuller	thanks nanotube! i didn't know the main one.	[05:02]
cazalla	xanthyos, start a garden, makes the world of difference	[05:04]
nanotube	np :)	[05:05]
BingoBoingo	;;later tell moldysnizz off to bed	[05:08]
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danielpbarron	;;rate ninjashogun -1 doesn't understand the WoT http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-10-2014#865707	[05:17]
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assbot	Logged on 09-10-2014 00:45:00; ninjashogun: asciilifeform, if I wanted to build up a WoT reputation I would just make a new nick and do some low-value transactions.	[05:17]
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thestringpuller	oh its danielpbarron	[05:23]
thestringpuller	i haven't seen you in a bit	[05:23]
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mircea_popescu	xanthyos, start a garden, makes the world of difference < << actually this is quite good advice.	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron it's generally the common refuge of the inept, to pretend that "if they wanted"	[05:26]
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thestringpuller	you garden in your new place mircea_popescu ?	[05:26]
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nubbins`	mircea_popescu: nubbins`: you guys and your normcore style << do elaborate! << this thing where one just barfs raw HTML elements all over the page	[05:34]
nubbins`	did you paint your house grey?	[05:34]
thickasthieves	Tim Draper to head CSIRO	[05:35]
nubbins`	with blue shutters that turn purple when you open them?	[05:35]
cazalla	catching up on logs and ya know, everyone shits on how qntra looks	[05:35]
thickasthieves	hmm	[05:36]
thickasthieves	is my google lying to me	[05:36]
thickasthieves	yeha it is	[05:36]
thickasthieves	fukn spam sites	[05:36]
nubbins`	cazalla weird, i wonder why	[05:37]
cazalla	yeah, i'm reading it's venture capitalist Larry Marshall	[05:37]
penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitcoin-foundations-financial-standards-working-group-publishes-agenda/	[05:37]
nubbins`	you can do minimalist without stooping to using browser defaults	[05:37]
cazalla	nubbins`, i actually like it	[05:37]
nubbins`	well, there's that :D	[05:38]
cazalla	but it is something that can be improved later	[05:38]
thestringpuller	make it work first	[05:39]
thestringpuller	make it pretty later?	[05:39]
cazalla	anyway, while driving such long distances, i got to listening to let's talk bitcoin episodes and in one of the latests, adreas concedes bitcoin isn't for africa but maybe now philippines, argentina	[05:42]
thestringpuller	did he say why not africa?	[05:43]
cazalla	well, he said africa in a few decades maybe	[05:43]
cazalla	but more 2nd world because they have better internets	[05:44]
thestringpuller	argentina uses bitcoin for remittence right now from what I've read	[05:44]
thestringpuller	argentines use*	[05:44]
cazalla	maybe i use 2nd world wrong	[05:44]
thestringpuller	probably less red tape to deploy an atm in the 2nd world.	[05:46]
thestringpuller	if none at all.	[05:46]
mod6	cazalla: i like how it looks. simple. and looks good with lynx.	[05:47]
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Namworld	nanotube napedia Naphex nick1234abcd NormDePloome nubbins`	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller nah can't be bothered. but also am not depressed.	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` how do you do html, xml-encapsed ?!	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	o look at that, hanbot qntra.	[05:54]
thestringpuller	"Not only is this confusing for consumers, it does not fit in existing systems and software for accounting practices." << uh it fits an0	[05:55]
thestringpuller	and zero asset...	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	you can do minimalist without stooping to using browser defaults << i don't think that's stooping.	[05:55]
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asciilifeform	http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-input/msg33095.html << turd? yes. but here's a little story behind it. think, why would anyone build a device like this?	[05:56]
assbot	Re: USB reset xhci_hcd for ELAN touchscreen -- Linux Input	[05:56]
mircea_popescu	so the formidable mpoe-pr lives :D	[05:57]
asciilifeform	(what kind of device? a 2d plane digitizer that sits on usb, meant to be used as 'touch' gizmo. and it pisses GBs of usb disconnect garbage into log -if and only if you don't use it-.)	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller the "working group" hasn't yet heard of bitcoin	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	they're belabouring on the outskirts of the fiat world still.	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform like a canary of sorts ?	[05:58]
asciilifeform	sorta.	[05:59]
asciilifeform	why i even mention it? because it's an example of a device that loudly, proudly, pisses on the usb spec (spirit and letter thereof) but is tolerated because for most people - it appears harmless.	[05:59]
asciilifeform	but build a system where it isn't milked (usb pipe with non-null payloads kept going) and drown in shit.	[06:00]
asciilifeform	and incidentally, i know just how the author arrived at this - he probably used the 'watchdog' feature of the micro which implements the device	[06:02]
asciilifeform	i.e., register that cycles its power if not updated every x msec.	[06:02]
asciilifeform	and only updated guess where - interrupt handler (that's only entered if os is using the digitizer, naturally)	[06:02]
asciilifeform	i don't even have to disassemble the beast, extract the fw, and reverse it to have a pretty solid guess	[06:03]
asciilifeform	moral: turdware is everywhere	[06:03]
asciilifeform	moral2: 'crashes as response to unexpected inputs - incl. lack of input - are ok' attitude is a plague that corrupts everything it touches.	[06:05]
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asciilifeform	moral3: it is contagious. because it is impossible to implement a sane os which handles this insane device and adds up to sanity.	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	could just ignore it	[06:06]
asciilifeform	but that's not sane.	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	there's nothing insane about refusing to support lunacy	[06:06]
asciilifeform	'enumerated badness'	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	the converse, the expectation that everything is s upported, is insane.	[06:07]
asciilifeform	yes. but it didn't happen in empty space, but from the 'tower of babel' situation	[06:07]
mircea_popescu	you can't install airplane flaps on your car. somehow this is perfectly comprehensible. why should you be able to use a noncompliant usb stick ?	[06:07]
asciilifeform	why the everliving fuck does there have to be more than one way to talk to a mouse ?	[06:07]
mircea_popescu	the false dichotomy here being that either you apple (onlt accept stuff we made) or else foss (accept any turd)	[06:08]
asciilifeform	i recently had the occasion to read a treatise on machine screws.	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	the correct solution is, only accept stuff that does x y z	[06:08]
asciilifeform	somehow, the world arrived at a handful of precisely defined thread types that are interoperable.	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	whoever makes it, either makes it to spec or it won't work. period and enforced.	[06:08]
asciilifeform	precisely.	[06:08]
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mircea_popescu	this is enough of a revolution in computing as is.	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	build a machine from the ground up, that works like that.	[06:09]
asciilifeform	obligatory: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=37	[06:09]
assbot	Loper OS » The Hardware Culture, or: What They Build, Works! Can We Say the Same?	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	and sure, the coindesks of the world will derp about how "xe has difficulty with bitcoin". so ?	[06:09]
asciilifeform	^ written long ago	[06:10]
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mircea_popescu	fuck them, they should be thankful for this difficulty now, and humbly submit	[06:10]
mircea_popescu	the difficulty later will be worse.	[06:10]
thestringpuller	!up jacoblyles	[06:10]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: my turd, if it had a point, mainly had the point of - the grave harm of 'tolerance.'	[06:11]
mircea_popescu	well, tolerance understood as, "ignore it".	[06:12]
mircea_popescu	as much as we'd all like to see little machine guns come out of the chassis and blow things away	[06:12]
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asciilifeform	when you turn up one of these pieces of junk, on your desk, or worse yet, chained to it (yes, you bought one set - can buy another, what'll the crapolade be in the next gadget?) - it happens because other folks - lived with it.	[06:12]
asciilifeform	because someone decided to be 'tolerant.'	[06:12]
asciilifeform	and 'helpful.'	[06:12]
mircea_popescu	apparently tolerance as in the libtard notion has a lot of drawbacks	[06:13]
asciilifeform	forced mistake, in many cases - sometimes, you have the luxury of setting fire to the whole shebang and walking away	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	and the supposed benefits are not really that readily apparent. what's the benefit to beint tolerant supposed to be, again ?	[06:13]
asciilifeform	other times - no	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	something something powerless people ?. ahem... fuck em ?	[06:13]
asciilifeform	somebody gets fucked, regardless, just like something had to burn to power my computer to write this (precious little fission or hydro where i live)	[06:15]
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asciilifeform	question instead is, what burns, what kind of exhaust gas	[06:15]
assbot	DonkDown – Live Radio	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron have fun	[06:15]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: familiar with 'postel's law' ?	[06:17]
mircea_popescu	ie robustness	[06:17]
asciilifeform	it's a little gibblet of dreary nonsense parroted in defense of the the kind of crap described earlier.	[06:17]
asciilifeform	'be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send.'	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	it's not nearly as smart as it would want to be. its direct equivalent would be "never rape anyone and enjoy being raped whenever it happens"	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	it wouldn't go very far now would it.	[06:18]
asciilifeform	perfectly sane 2nd half is like a needle through which 1st clause is injected through your brain.	[06:18]
asciilifeform	lol	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	myeah. funny how obvious the obvious is once the correspondingly larger sex-and-money processor is put to the task.	[06:19]
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asciilifeform	incidentally, the postel crap reminds me of the fountain through which the bulk of modern pc retardation flows forth: the web browser. as in, literally the only reason one cannot use os setup circa, e.g., 2001 (with a patch here & there)	[06:20]
asciilifeform	because modern111!1111 browser won't build there	[06:20]
asciilifeform	and if built (miracle, hand-massaged bottle-fed libraries, etc) won't run.	[06:21]
asciilifeform	because won't fit in 64M of the machine in question	[06:21]
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asciilifeform	for no particular or identifiable reason.	[06:21]
asciilifeform	why, precisely, does it take four megs to render a tab filled with 1kb of ascii text?	[06:22]
asciilifeform	because herpderpr0gr355?	[06:22]
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mike_c	<+cazalla> catching up on logs and ya know, everyone shits on how qntra looks << luckily that's about the 50th most important thing..	[06:37]
mike_c	when's hanbot going to start contributing?	[06:37]
mike_c	probably can't curse as much as on the forums	[06:38]
thestringpuller	probably not a need since the intended audience isn't retards	[06:39]
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mike_c	there is a need for good writers that know bitcoin.	[06:39]
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thestringpuller	not a need for cursing*	[06:40]
thestringpuller	sorry for ambiguity	[06:40]
mike_c	oh :) yeah.	[06:40]
hanbot	news doesn't call for it so often, i don't think.	[06:40]
mike_c	i've actually been impressed that they've managed to keep from cursing while talking about VC's and such	[06:40]
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hanbot	mike_c> when's hanbot going to start contributing? << like an hour ago?	[06:41]
mike_c	oh? cool.	[06:42]
mike_c	look at that, i'm behind the times.	[06:42]
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mike_c	i am really excited about this thing, i hope it keeps up. it would be so awesome if i never had to look at coindesk again.	[06:44]
hanbot	gotta try new things :)	[06:44]
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thestringpuller	or bitcoin magazine, or r/bitcoin...	[06:45]
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mircea_popescu	because modern111!1111 browser won't build there << what is the "modern browser" for ?	[06:54]
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mircea_popescu	when's hanbot going to start contributing? << latest was hers neh ?	[06:54]
mircea_popescu	i am really excited about this thing, i hope it keeps up. it would be so awesome if i never had to look at coindesk again. << you have NO IDEEA how awesome this thing actually is	[06:55]
mircea_popescu	the reveal, late oct/early november	[06:55]
mike_c	exciting!	[06:57]
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asciilifeform	what is the "modern browser" for << search engines & their output, mostly.	[07:00]
decimation	asciilifeform: somehow the browser has morphed into the 'new os' - and it's even shittier than wintel	[07:00]
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asciilifeform	decimation: browser is 'judas goat' that leads folks into places they would never voluntarily go	[07:02]
asciilifeform	in terms of crapolade accumulation in the conceptual stack	[07:03]
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asciilifeform	browser is why 'i wanna run my old freebsd 4.7 box' - 'sorry, no, not if you still want to log in & pay your electric bill online.'	[07:04]
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decimation	old analog cell phones allocated 25 khz of dedicated bandwidth to each call (as I recall)	[07:05]
decimation	'modern' phones allocate ~8kbit/sec w/lossy compression	[07:05]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo will appreciate how it is entirely impossible to use a mac os 9 (or prior) box for a daily machine today.	[07:05]
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asciilifeform	decimation: yes, and somehow we aren't supposed to notice the atrocious quality.	[07:05]
asciilifeform	and unlike dr. seuss and his 'whispermaphone' - not even secret.	[07:06]
decimation	but, you see now 'everyone' has a 'phone'	[07:06]
decimation	'everyone' can 'use' a 'computer' and 'the internet'	[07:06]
asciilifeform	this is the basic phenomenon here.	[07:06]
asciilifeform	'everyone'ization.	[07:06]
decimation	I had opportunity to use an 'old' agilent spectrum analyzer a few days ago	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	decimation you know who was talking on the cellphone back in those old days ?	[07:08]
decimation	it lacked windows, made me feel good	[07:08]
decimation	mircea_popescu: certianly not 'everyone'	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	i mean what, hollywood used it to establish just how speshul redford is to make sharon stone fucking him for money acceptable to the housewife in attendance	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	i mean moore not stone	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	i always mix my starlets.	[07:09]
decimation	remember the 80's movies & tv where the rich guy in the limo has a 'car phone'?	[07:09]
asciilifeform	pre-cellular (trunked radio)	[07:09]
asciilifeform	even soviets had them.	[07:10]
asciilifeform	half a dozen or so per city, max.	[07:10]
decimation	you can buy an 'agilent e4406a' on ebay for ~$1k, covers 7mhz to 4 ghz, windows free	[07:11]
dub	dad had one in his porshe 924	[07:11]
decimation	my understanding is that early analog cell phones weren't even trunked, they had a dedicated channel while connected	[07:11]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/progress-and-revolution/ << btw.	[07:12]
assbot	“Progress” and “Revolution” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[07:12]
asciilifeform	incidentally, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3UNjNe5lD8	[07:14]
assbot	The Lorax -- Dr. Seuss (1972 original version) - YouTube	[07:14]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/progress-and-revolution/	[07:16]
decimation	the french revolution wasn't only caused by the socialists, it was also caused by the pathetic derpiness of the 'nobility' and monarchy	[07:19]
decimation	many of whom were actively trying to undermine the other nobility in the name of 'progress' etc	[07:19]
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mircea_popescu	not in the name of progress, no.	[07:22]
mircea_popescu	i don't really like the mr trololo treatment	[07:23]
decimation	in the name of égalité?	[07:23]
mircea_popescu	well this is a very difficult question. but a good part of it is that nietzsche and sartre are not innovators except formally. fundamentally, they were retracing preexisting ideas,	[07:25]
mircea_popescu	and so the superman and the existentialist are both models of the late french aristocracy	[07:25]
mircea_popescu	people with the drive to push the absurd quite very far, and with the means to actually do so irl rather than in their own minds/reddit pages.	[07:26]
xanthyos	http://www.donkdown.com/media/DDRadio-2014-Oct-08_19_04_08.mp3 << danielpbarron bit starts 77 min in, gonna listen to this because i was too busy pissing on my mom's driveway when the show was live	[07:27]
mircea_popescu	i don't really like the mr trololo treatment << this was re the seuss link	[07:30]
decimation	I hadn't made the connection between french elite absurdity and Nietzsche - an interesting connection	[07:30]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: somebody (pixar?) recently came out with an even worse one	[07:30]
asciilifeform	that actually made the 1972 picture look good.	[07:30]
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decimation	the reddit of 1789, france was the Estates-General and the derpage associated with the third estate	[07:33]
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decimation	;;ticker	[07:35]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 351.84, Best ask: 353.71, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 351.84, 24 hour volume: 28774.86534965, 24 hour low: 327.01, 24 hour high: 359.87, 24 hour vwap: 345.196943781	[07:35]
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decimation	in contrast to the French revolution, the American revolution seems much more... conservative? The result of the American revolution largely enshrining the existing governing arrangement in place (while sowing the seeds of future destruction with lofty idiotic language that no one at the time took seriously)	[07:38]
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decimation	http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-qntra/ << "September 30, around 5am" << wait - was that Argentina time? Because they are UTC-3, which makes it almost 2300 29 Sep local time?	[07:49]
assbot	Introducing the qntra pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[07:49]
xanthyos	lol danielpbarron 97 minute mark with the hypothetical situation of you catching elton john buttfucking in your hotel	[07:49]
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The20YearIRCloud	That's a bit scary	[07:53]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: people with the drive... to actually do so irl rather than in their own minds/reddit pages << they would if they could.	[08:00]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/ << this stuff is such greatness.	[08:37]
assbot	Digging through archives yields gold pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[08:37]
mircea_popescu	"The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigg	[08:37]
mircea_popescu	er, more serious, and more disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks are difficult for ordinary people understand. I	[08:37]
mircea_popescu	have trouble understanding your proposal - ordinary users will be easily bamboozled by a government sponsored security update. Further, when the crisis hits, to disagree with the line, to doubt that the regulators are right, and the problem is the evil speculators, becomes political suicide, as it did in America in 2007, sometimes physical suicide, as in Weimar Germany."	[08:37]
The20YearIRCloud	Maybe i can steal your bitcoin news website	[08:42]
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mircea_popescu	Confirmed total: 19000 BTC	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	heh!	[09:47]
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RagnarDanneskjol	thats a nice number = 5414.88 oz xau	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	basically bitbet hgas paid 190 btc in dividends to date	[09:54]
mircea_popescu	not that many things in bitcoin with a better record	[09:54]
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cazalla	this upcoming article, too speculative? some random shit kicker owes $$ while his company begins accepting bitcoin	[09:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform "Suppose you want to support strings and have a string comparison instruction. You might think that "it's done in the hardware", so it's blindingly fast. It isn't, because the hardware still has to access memory, one word per cycle. A superscalar/VLIW assembly loop would run just as quickly; the only thing you'd save is a few bytes for instruction encoding. On the other hand, your string comparison thingi	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	e has got you into several sorts of trouble" << my question is, why one word per cycle ?	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	cazalla not enough data to make a call	[09:55]
penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/james-home-services-to-begin-trialling-bitcoin/	[09:58]
mircea_popescu	cazalla imo it's good.	[10:00]
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mircea_popescu	!up pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	[10:02]
-assbot-	You voiced pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa for 30 minutes.	[10:02]
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pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	hello	[10:02]
fluffypony	that's a lot of a's	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	what brings you and your a's here ?	[10:03]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	oh I liked your comment about bitcoin not being for poor people	[10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	on twitter someone quoted of you today	[10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	I am friends of DPB and Xan	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	a ok	[10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	but I am from SF bay area	[10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	not east coast	[10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	my ex gf is a fake socialist who works for btcjam	[10:05]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	and talks about bitcoin helping poor people	[10:05]
mircea_popescu	is she hot ?	[10:05]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	and i decided to become a full blown capitalist	[10:05]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	since love dosent exist	[10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	she was a hot samoan	[10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	samoan white girl	[10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	https://btcjam.com/contact	[10:06]
assbot	About Us - BTCJam	[10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	"alexis"	[10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa	lol	[10:06]
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pakaka	these millineal socialist commies into bitcoin are dangerous	[10:07]
pakaka	millinenial*	[10:07]
pakaka	however you spell it	[10:07]
pakaka	that site is sort of irrelvent with what I have heard about the WOT though.	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	so good for you.	[10:10]
pakaka	I wonder if andreas antonopoulos is a Fed.	[10:11]
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xanthyos	hi pakaka	[10:15]
pakaka	hi	[10:16]
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pakaka	i guess andreas antonopoulos didnt have any cash and had alexis buy him a pack of cigs and he said he would send her bitcoin for it	[10:17]
pakaka	which he never did	[10:17]
pakaka	#scam	[10:17]
pakaka	after some bitcoin meetup in sf a few months ago	[10:17]
pakaka	what a chump	[10:17]
xanthyos	how do you collateralize loans for something whose value is so volatile?	[10:17]
xanthyos	are they a bank?	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	lol this scamming the noobie carnie sounds so mark twain like.	[10:19]
xanthyos	i sure do love painting this fence	[10:20]
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mircea_popescu	anyway. that's all for me, take it ezzy	[10:21]
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nubbins`	antononoypopoponpoynlyous testimony for canadian senate yesterday was pretty good	[18:34]
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thickasthieves	i havent watched that yet, but if you say it'	[18:35]
thickasthieves	s good i will	[18:35]
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mircea_popescu	nubbins` video ?	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	o hey there princess.	[18:36]
nubbins`	sec	[18:36]
thickasthieves	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNGFZDO8mM&feature=youtu.be#t=34m18s	[18:36]
assbot	Andreas M. Antonopoulos educates Senate of Canada about Bitcoin (Oct 8, ENG) - YouTube	[18:36]
BingoBoingo	Apocalyptic: Well, maybe someone actually bothers to call their toll free number	[18:36]
nubbins`	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNGFZDO8mM&feature=youtu.be	[18:37]
assbot	Andreas M. Antonopoulos educates Senate of Canada about Bitcoin (Oct 8, ENG) - YouTube	[18:37]
nubbins`	ooooo too slow	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	mebbe qntra publishes a summary, then i can "watch" it too	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	!up princessnell	[18:37]
-assbot-	You voiced princessnell for 30 minutes.	[18:37]
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princessnell	ty, howdy!	[18:37]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu it's more of a radio thing than a tv thing, throw it on in the bg ;p	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	how about you write a piece of bitcoin news and submit it to cazalla princessnell ?	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` noty	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	the web is for text.	[18:38]
princessnell	for qntra?	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	these video heretic will all go to hell.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	princessnell yeah	[18:38]
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nubbins`	so subscribe to C-SPAN	[18:38]
nubbins`	they carry that in argentina, right?	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	i have nfi.	[18:39]
nubbins`	wait fuck that's the usa one	[18:39]
nubbins`	what channel do i watch my government on?	[18:39]
princessnell	sure i'll do that now	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	love ya.	[18:39]
nubbins`	CPAC	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	that sounds like the us communist party	[18:39]
nubbins`	princessnell why not transcribe that video, it's only 2 hours long ;p	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	why don't YOU transcribe it ?	[18:39]
nubbins`	hmm, because i'm not in the mood to do favors?	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	oic	[18:40]
nubbins`	mostly because transcribing 2h of video would be an incredibly arduous task	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	which kinda explains the unholy proliferation of the "vlogger". derp that can't be bothered to write shit down because it's too much work, and so instead he wants everyone to see past his out of shape flesh and obnoxiously poor vocalisation. beause that's somehow not a lot of work.	[18:42]
nubbins`	it's work put on someone else tho	[18:42]
bounce	fobbing off is the thing to do	[18:43]
BingoBoingo	which kinda explains the unholy proliferation of the "vlogger". derp that can't be bothered to write shit down because it's too much work, and so instead he wants everyone to see past his out of shape flesh and obnoxiously poor vocalisation. beause that's somehow not a lot of work. << Why Vlogger's can't be relevant	[18:43]
BingoBoingo	It's unethical to allow it	[18:43]
princessnell	can't find the live cast	[18:44]
princessnell	oh its not for a few hours	[18:44]
princessnell	nm	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	princessnell linked above neh ?	[18:45]
thickasthieves	"that literally blew my mind" anotnononoopolpus	[18:45]
princessnell	oh the andreas vid	[18:45]
nubbins`	LITERALLY	[18:47]
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nubbins`	i don't think the phrase "blew my mind" has a literal meaning	[18:47]
nubbins`	what does the verb "blow" mean in this context?	[18:47]
nubbins`	like, you blew a gasket? your mind stopped working and a part had to be replaced?	[18:47]
mats_cd03	maybe hes being funny	[18:48]
thickasthieves	"i think the most common use for bitcoin is charitable giving, donations, and tipping" antonop	[18:48]
thickasthieves	does getting scammed fall under 'charitable giving' ?	[18:49]
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thickasthieves	"a 10-year-old can create a (crypto)currency and that currency can be as secure as the currency created by a monarch" anotnop	[18:53]
thickasthieves	"...and without cost"	[18:53]
thickasthieves	this guy....	[18:53]
BingoBoingo	https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2irnjh/us_commodity_futures_trading_commission_meeting/	[18:54]
assbot	U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission Meeting on Bitcoin Derivatives Today : Bitcoin	[18:54]
nubbins`	thickasthieves, but is it not true 8)	[18:54]
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thickasthieves	if it has no cost, it has no value, no security	[18:55]
nubbins`	i believe he meant the cost of creating it	[18:56]
nubbins`	sorta like how you paid $7.25 to get ATC made or w/e	[18:56]
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thickasthieves	well in the context he is preaching glories of blockchain tech	[18:57]
thickasthieves	so it is misleading	[18:57]
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thickasthieves	to say child coins are secure and no cost	[18:57]
nubbins`	ehh, you're reading too much into it	[18:57]
nubbins`	put another way: whether satoshi is a 10yo kid or Queen Beatrice, bitcoin is what it is	[18:57]
thickasthieves	maybe	[18:57]
thickasthieves	i think he conveniently glosses over the security aspects of the conversation	[18:58]
nubbins`	it's the features, not the creator, that the relevance is applied to	[18:58]
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nubbins`	oh sure, but that's too low-level for a senate hearing	[18:58]
thickasthieves	he paints current infosec as hopeless	[18:58]
nubbins`	half those people in the room don't know what the fuck a computer is	[18:58]
nubbins`	just wait til the lady from NB starts asking questions.	[18:59]
thickasthieves	but its also hopeless to think common men can secure their coins themselves	[18:59]
nubbins`	agreed, 100%, and he admits as much	[18:59]
thickasthieves	word	[18:59]
nubbins`	it's also hopeless to think that your bank can secure your money	[19:00]
nubbins`	difference is, banks try to make you believe the opposite	[19:00]
thickasthieves	yeah	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	princessnell they were discussing some testimony or w/e	[19:01]
nubbins`	whereas btc fanatics will freak out at you and tell you that your security, no matter how tight, is brutally sub-par	[19:01]
thickasthieves	and then they go home and use their one mobile device to log in via 2fa on same	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	does getting scammed fall under 'charitable giving' ? <<< yes. people charitably gave to neobee so that antonoscampulous could bum ciggs off people and derp before the candian senate.	[19:02]
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nubbins`	good thing none of us were tangled up in NEOBEE	[19:02]
thickasthieves	pphew	[19:02]
nubbins`	imagine the guilt at enabling	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	well apparently the twerp has no such issue	[19:02]
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mircea_popescu	and from what i recall reading about canadian politicians, it's n o wonder they invited him	[19:03]
nubbins`	;;google mike duffy	[19:03]
gribble	Mike Duffy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Mike Duffys: Irish Restaurant and Sports Bar - St Louis MO: ; Town and Country Irish Food Menu - Best Burger N St ... - Mike Duffys:	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	vermin seeking vermin and all that.	[19:03]
nubbins`	;;google pamela wallin	[19:03]
gribble	Pamela Wallin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Pamela Wallin - Journalist, Diplomat, Entrepreneur & Author: ; Pamela Wallin says she regrets repaying Senate expenses \| Toronto ...:	[19:03]
nubbins`	;;google canadian senate scandal	[19:04]
gribble	Canadian Senate expenses scandal - Wikipedia, the free ...: ; Canada Senate Scandal - Huffington Post: ; Senate Expense Scandal: Pictures, Videos, Breaking News:	[19:04]
nubbins`	;;google canadian senate marijuana 2002	[19:04]
gribble	Reports - Illegal Drugs (Special): ; Summary Report-final: ; The Special Senate Committee on Illegal Drugs:	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	lol	[19:04]
nubbins`	so on, so forth	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	so he's exactly in his proper element then.	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	maybe they start a new innovative coinplatfromscamderpage thing	[19:04]
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nubbins`	wagging his chin at a bunch of ineffectual appointed lords?	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	now that neobee blew up, ethereum is gone into the hole etc	[19:04]
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nubbins`	how long would one boil a chicken breast for, i wonder	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	ten minutes to as long you got.	[19:06]
nubbins`	ah, pulled it out at just the right moment	[19:07]
nubbins`	the idea is to have the middle slightly pink, so you can butterfly it and pan-fry	[19:07]
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mircea_popescu	then ten's maybe too much	[19:07]
BingoBoingo	!up princessnell	[19:07]
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nubbins`	around seven was right. ten for a full-cook would be right on the money	[19:08]
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nubbins`	what's antonpopnopnopnopn got to do with neobee again	[19:08]
nubbins`	i have a hard time recalling	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	bout the same he has to do with ethereum, or bitcoin generally.	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	he kept representing to the sort of idiots that follow him on reddit that it's a great thing.	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	and that he's done the research for them, and all is well, a lie easy for the derps in question to swallow seeing just how lazy and stupid they are.	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	not that the thing is peculiar to him in any sense, it's the stock in trade of any random derp aspiring to a position of political preminence without any particular skill or ability. like so : http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/	[19:11]
assbot	These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	"The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE’s assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been “under-banked.” I must note, however, there	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	is substantial political risk with this investment. We, as investors, do not know how the Cypriot government will act toward a new financial institution like this. This is especially true given the political turmoil occuring in Ukraine and the Crimea region."	[19:11]
nubbins`	tangibility	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	ikr? he loves the X word he's heard.	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	anyway, authors being a coupla 19 yo cocklets fresh out of a stint as cook chefs, pretending to be finance this or that.	[19:13]
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mircea_popescu	but anyway, for today and as long as it lasts, antonoshithead is bitcoin's chief nigger. he's trying to parlay the nude use of words into as much free fried chicken as possible.	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	this apparently works to some degree, he's ahead a cigarette from xanthyos' ex, and was the senate hearing catered ?	[19:15]
BingoBoingo	!up devthedev	[19:15]
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devthedev	Thank you	[19:15]
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mircea_popescu	how goes devthedev ?	[19:16]
devthedev	Pretty good, how are you?	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	i am excited!	[19:16]
devthedev	I am too, I just saw qntra!	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	a yeah. you wanna submit a piece ?	[19:17]
BingoBoingo	devthedev: If you want to write for it submit a writing sample to cazalla	[19:17]
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devthedev	Will do	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	and we say ~we~re excited. imagine what it must be like @ cazalla hq.	[19:18]
BingoBoingo	Yeah cazalla's bunny ranch has to be popping	[19:18]
devthedev	Ha	[19:19]
thickasthieves	antonop transcribed himself http://antonopoulos.com/2014/10/09/canadian-senate-hearings-my-opening-remarks/	[19:21]
assbot	Canadian Senate Hearings: My Opening Remarks \| Andreas M. Antonopoulos	[19:21]
nubbins`	heh	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	a hey.	[19:22]
nubbins`	the finished breast: http://imgur.com/LcKYhvp	[19:23]
assbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[19:23]
thickasthieves	http://player.vimeo.com/video/108268160	[19:23]
assbot	High Speed Video Neal Stephenson Sabering a Champagne Bottle from ChefSteps on Vimeo	[19:23]
The20YearIRCloud	Looks good nubbins`	[19:24]
thickasthieves	frm the random dept	[19:24]
The20YearIRCloud	i need to start on lunch soon	[19:24]
nubbins`	don't let me stop ya	[19:24]
nubbins`	any wild posters yet?	[19:24]
nubbins`	forum thread's got a few of em framed	[19:24]
nubbins`	bbl	[19:24]
thestringpuller	dr. foreskin!!!!!	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` i went in there expecting chick not chicken. #scam	[19:25]
nubbins`	8D	[19:25]
thestringpuller	don't chick's become chicken?	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	only if left unsupervised for too long	[19:26]
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thestringpuller	you would think an all girls university would be a great place to recruit chicks...	[19:27]
thestringpuller	something about dem places ain't natural	[19:27]
mircea_popescu	they still have those ?	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	i thought they became illegal in the us	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	but yes, they drive each other sex crazy.	[19:28]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Nope, they still exist.	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	so you can't have gentlemen's clubs but you can have all cunt university ?!	[19:29]
thestringpuller	i think there are all male universities still around...but I don't know who would want to attend	[19:30]
thestringpuller	and don't gentleman's club employ females?	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	not traditionally.	[19:31]
thestringpuller	i usually think of gentelman's club == high class strip club	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	but you bring a good point huh. women do want to be in a flock of women. men... not so much	[19:31]
thickasthieves	my holyoke is all female	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	no, it's not what it is lol.	[19:31]
thickasthieves	mt*	[19:31]
thickasthieves	lots of girl on girl encounters	[19:32]
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thickasthieves	i just realized the cftc vid is 48h delayed :/	[19:34]
thickasthieves	not sure if i really can handle phoning in to listen	[19:35]
RagnarDanneskjol	I went to an all guys college for one year - there was so much ass around you wouldnt believe it. Hampden-Sydney college is surrounded by a number of all girls schools like sarah-lawrence and other schools attended by spoiled rich pure-bred top-shelf poon	[19:35]
thickasthieves	wait then below it says live webcast	[19:35]
thickasthieves	ok	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol a that's not so bad then	[19:36]
RagnarDanneskjol	it worked out well - until I got expelled for fraternity shennanigans	[19:37]
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mircea_popescu	better than marrying out	[19:37]
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mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol so im confused. sarah-lawernce is afaik upstate ny. but apparently this Hampden-Sydney thing is in virginia ?	[19:40]
thestringpuller	circle is scam? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2irice/never_using_circle_again/	[19:43]
assbot	Never using Circle again : Bitcoin	[19:43]
RagnarDanneskjol	no - I got confused - there is sweet briar, mary-baldwin, and a few others. I spent some time @ sarah-lawrence later on. has been quite a few years	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	lol what is this, "if you remember the 60s you weren't there" ?	[19:45]
RagnarDanneskjol	this is about right: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hampden-Sydney	[19:49]
assbot	Urban Dictionary: Hampden-Sydney	[19:49]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker	[19:53]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 382.46, Best ask: 383.67, Bid-ask spread: 1.21000, Last trade: 383.66, 24 hour volume: 37509.54242863, 24 hour low: 341.13, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 366.228446462	[19:53]
thickasthieves	;;estimate	[19:53]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 35021382515.8 based on data since last change \| 33593487461.0 based on data for last three days	[19:53]
thickasthieves	!	[19:54]
BingoBoingo	;;bc,stats	[19:54]
gribble	Current Blocks: 324568 \| Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 \| Next Difficulty In: 7 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 13 minutes, and 34 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 35021382515.8 \| Estimated Percent Change: 1.03849	[19:54]
nubbins`	;o	[19:54]
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TheNewDeal	if it takes an hour to find each of these next blocks...	[19:56]
mike_c	;;tslb	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	some blocks are harder than others!	[19:57]
gribble	Time since last block: 10 minutes and 16 seconds	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	"If reason and charity cannot promote the cause of truth and piety, I cannot see how it should ever flourish under the withering fires of wrath and strife". it's incredible just how much damage the 18th and 19th century heretic clubs did to the us.	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	presbyterian, srsly ?! gtfo.	[19:58]
TheNewDeal	love how the s&p500 is just propped up on stilts.	[19:58]
mircea_popescu	both truth and piety are exactly the creation, both necessary and unavoidalbe, of wrath and strife. just like equilibrium in mammals is the result of muscular activity, not of silent contemplation.	[19:58]
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mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal permanently elevated plateau yo.	[19:59]
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ben_vulpes	"sarah lawrence: where the girls become women and the boys do too"	[20:11]
thestringpuller	Hah	[20:13]
thestringpuller	ben_vulpes made a funny!	[20:13]
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thestringpuller	!up brianhoffman	[20:20]
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kakobrekla	what was the last assbot quit msg	[20:20]
BingoBoingo	* assbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[20:21]
kakobrekla	ty	[20:21]
kakobrekla	i guess i need to temporarily switch this back on	[20:21]
thestringpuller	BingoBoingo: beat me to it	[20:21]
ben_vulpes	;;ticker	[20:22]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 374.54, Best ask: 375.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.46000, Last trade: 375.0, 24 hour volume: 39347.55631242, 24 hour low: 341.13, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 366.929726172	[20:22]
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TheNewDeal	is cafe con miel popular in buenos aires?	[20:28]
kakobrekla	http://shrani.si/f/I/xE/3ofSgtJ8/oh-my-eyes.png	[20:29]
kakobrekla	;;tslb	[20:30]
gribble	Time since last block: 21 minutes and 43 seconds	[20:30]
kakobrekla	can i get a 'B' ?!	[20:31]
BingoBoingo	B	[20:31]
TheNewDeal	like a block	[20:31]
kakobrekla	can i get a 'L' ?!	[20:31]
BingoBoingo	L	[20:31]
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kakobrekla	cool, now I only need to find OCK	[20:31]
kakobrekla	!up ceelo	[20:31]
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kakobrekla	sing it!	[20:32]
thickasthieves	maybe miners are colluding to stop people from selling	[20:32]
ceelo	auth ceelo	[20:34]
ceelo	how do u auth with gribble	[20:34]
kakobrekla	;;nigga please	[20:34]
gribble	Error: "nigga" is not a valid command.	[20:34]
kakobrekla	ah dunno	[20:34]
thestringpuller	"that's our word. you have no business using it!"	[20:34]
thestringpuller	;;google family guy n-word jim	[20:34]
gribble	N-Word Jim - Family Guy Wiki: ; Huck Griffin - Family Guy Wiki: ; "Family Guy" I Am Peter, Hear Me Roar (TV Episode 2000) - Quotes ...:	[20:34]
ceelo	;;auth ceelo	[20:34]
gribble	Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.	[20:34]
kakobrekla	ceelo http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets	[20:35]
assbot	first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]	[20:35]
TheNewDeal	ceelo green?	[20:35]
ceelo	thx	[20:35]
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thestringpuller	that would be dope if Ceelo came into the channel.	[20:35]
thestringpuller	sing us a song	[20:35]
kakobrekla	ceelo blue until he gets in the wot	[20:35]
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TheNewDeal	hahahaha	[20:35]
kakobrekla	!up ceelo	[20:35]
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thickasthieves	cftc wont be discussing bitcoin til 345	[20:37]
thickasthieves	100min	[20:37]
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TheNewDeal	is obama going to make an appearance and finally get paid for http://bitbet.us/bet/804/obama-will-mention-bitcoin-before-2015/#b4?	[20:39]
assbot	BitBet - Obama will mention Bitcoin before 2015 :: 0.31 B (44%) on Yes, 0.4 B (56%) on No \| closing in 1 month 3 weeks \| weight: 23`231 (100`000 to 1)	[20:39]
ceelo	how do you get 'in the wot'	[20:39]
TheNewDeal	read that article	[20:39]
ceelo	found it	[20:40]
ceelo	cool	[20:40]
TheNewDeal	;;tslb	[20:41]
gribble	Time since last block: 22 minutes and 14 seconds	[20:42]
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thestringpuller	%tslb	[20:45]
atcbot	Time Since Last ATC Block (#45986): 0 hour(s), 48 minutes	[20:45]
BingoBoingo	thickasthieves: is HIF Havelock itself?	[20:51]
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assbot	ceelo +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0	[20:52]
ceelo	lol	[20:52]
kakobrekla	yes well everyone started with 0	[20:53]
ceelo	yeye	[20:53]
thestringpuller	that was quick ceelo	[20:58]
thestringpuller	BingoBoingo: yea HIF is the Havelock itself	[20:59]
kakobrekla	http://imgur.com/blog/2014/10/09/introducing-gifv/?forcedesktop=1	[20:59]
assbot	Introducing GIFV – Imgur Blog	[20:59]
thickasthieves	BingoBoingo> thickasthieves: is HIF Havelock itself? // can you clarify?	[21:02]
BingoBoingo	Does havelock trade on havelock as hif?	[21:03]
thickasthieves	yes	[21:03]
thickasthieves	it	[21:03]
thickasthieves	it's the same owner as CBTC	[21:03]
thickasthieves	sry	[21:04]
thickasthieves	not that	[21:04]
thickasthieves	same owner as CFIG	[21:04]
thickasthieves	who i suspect is same owner as 1BTCXE	[21:04]
thickasthieves	suspect/assume	[21:05]
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kakobrekla	!up ceelo	[21:09]
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kakobrekla	!up dnaleor	[21:09]
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kakobrekla	!up ivok	[21:09]
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ivok	hello everyone :) to use my voice	[21:11]
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kakobrekla	hehe	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	!up ceelo	[21:12]
-assbot-	You voiced ceelo for another 30 minutes.	[21:12]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla: as earnings / div come from resolved, not confirmed. << good point ok	[21:17]
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kakobrekla	'good point ok' is my middle name.	[21:18]
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TheNewDeal	.98% , just wow	[21:21]
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BingoBoingo	;;bc,stats	[21:25]
gribble	Current Blocks: 324578 \| Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 \| Next Difficulty In: 2013 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 13 minutes, and 31 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 1.13932137867e+11 \| Estimated Percent Change: 225.49731	[21:25]
mike_c	cracked 250 exahash. this is getting out of hand.	[21:27]
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TheNewDeal	phash?	[21:27]
mike_c	er, not exa	[21:27]
BingoBoingo	;;nethash	[21:27]
gribble	241177197.882	[21:27]
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TheNewDeal	i remember there was ~280 a few weeks ago?	[21:28]
TheNewDeal	may be mistaken	[21:28]
mike_c	on short term estimates, yeah. difficulty just cracked 250 phash tho	[21:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 0.59699953 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 11 satoshi per share	[21:28]
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mircea_popescu	.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	!up deedbot	[21:29]
-assbot-	You voiced deedbot for 30 minutes.	[21:29]
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mircea_popescu	.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU	[21:29]
deedBot	deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.	[21:29]
deedBot	Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	oh. sheit.	[21:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 56.42232407 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 11 satoshi per share	[21:31]
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mpoe	;;eregister mpoe EE2BDEF602DD2D91	[21:41]
gribble	Request successful for user mpoe, hostmask mpoe!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/EE2BDEF602DD2D91	[21:41]
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TheNewDeal	!up ceelo	[21:43]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/ulbricht-attorneys-file-response-to-government/	[21:44]
TheNewDeal	next change is going to be giant	[21:44]
TheNewDeal	;;bc,stats	[21:44]
gribble	Current Blocks: 324579 \| Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 \| Next Difficulty In: 2012 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 3 minutes, and 22 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 70004998058.2 \| Estimated Percent Change: 100.0001	[21:44]
mpoe	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e84e5e818cd8d59b7a141cdf633cc6656f3ef0943fca7dc9139d4e2a	[21:45]
gribble	Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user mpoe with key EE2BDEF602DD2D91	[21:45]
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mircea_popescu	;;ident	[21:45]
gribble	CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mpoe', with GPG key id EE2BDEF602DD2D91, key fingerprint 2A4A728F75668B50162D4F13EE2BDEF602DD2D91, and bitcoin address None	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	;;ident	[21:47]
gribble	Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU	[21:47]
deedBot	deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.	[21:47]
deedBot	Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	;;rate mpoe 1 Current MPEx account for #bitcoin-assets deed purposes	[21:47]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mpoe has been recorded.	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU	[21:47]
deedBot	deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.	[21:47]
deedBot	Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	ah lag mkay.	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla: i just got used to being poor again what is this <<< ikr? me too!	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	thickasthieves: i could get more into it, but mostly people dont give a shit << actually i think most serious animalagans eat freeranged.	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	thickasthieves: usg is just alarmed hacker haz more dataz than them, so jelly <<< AAAANNDD they don't even quote trilema. not like it's been a secret over here, for the past half year or so.	[21:52]
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mircea_popescu	.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU	[21:52]
deedBot	deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.	[21:52]
deedBot	Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[21:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15915 @ 0.00074175 = 11.805 BTC [-] {2}	[21:53]
BingoBoingo	http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/10/09/nobel_prize_winner_patrick_modiano_s_wikipedia_page_changed_to_add_note.html	[21:53]
assbot	Nobel prize winner Patrick Modiano’s Wikipedia page changed to add note to “the reporter now copying from Wikipedia” (PHOTO).	[21:53]
thickasthieves	this Ulbricht response update is the first juicy thing I saw on qntra first, grats!	[21:53]
TomServo	^	[21:53]
BingoBoingo	thickasthieves: Yw	[21:53]
*	thickasthieves reads left side of monitor.	[21:54]
BingoBoingo	lol	[21:54]
devthedev	Lol	[21:55]
devthedev	Nicely written Bingo	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo: Bam, news'd it up. <<< gotta love this guy	[21:55]
mike_c	hehe, i scooped the lawyers yesterday: "It apparently confuses php with MySQL"	[21:56]
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thickasthieves	bingo your text is jacked	[21:56]
thickasthieves	incomplete sentences and such	[21:56]
thickasthieves	jumping or something	[21:57]
mircea_popescu	okies, logs done, discussions had, havoc caused, work reviewed (btw the eulora art is looking wunderbar) and so i guess ima bbl.	[21:57]
mike_c	thickasthieves: the pdf is no better	[21:58]
thickasthieves	ah shit	[21:59]
thickasthieves	well some of it is pretty good	[21:59]
BingoBoingo	thickasthieves: The textblock is as the pdf presented it. It is a legal format problem.	[21:59]
thickasthieves	this is def getting interesting	[21:59]
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thickasthieves	i'd think it would be a few more pages though	[22:00]
thickasthieves	i mean if youre already on the horse, ride it high	[22:01]
BingoBoingo	thickasthieves: It's a defense filing. The point is to be clear. A prosecution filing though has the other perogative, to bury with text that might have meaning.	[22:01]
thickasthieves	word	[22:02]
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