Forum logs for 09 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mike_c GET /gow//........................etc/passwd << does this shit actually still work on anyone? [00:01]
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mircea_popescu nope. [00:02]
mircea_popescu and i mean, so he gets passwd. so ? [00:02]
mircea_popescu what is he going to do with it ? [00:02]
mike_c who knows. but A for effort, 3000 requests in a minute. [00:02]
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mircea_popescu more in the same style. [00:03]
assbot O hai. I was justing doing a penetration test of your site. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [00:03]
[]bot Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" [00:05]
mike_c really? i thought we were going back to moon now. [00:05]
asciilifeform an actual word to describe the sheer ugliness of tshirts and chinos as worn by the modern western plebs >> neal stephenson's 'slines' [00:05]
BingoBoingo mike_c: I thought we never really hit the moon yet, just low earth orbit. [00:06]
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mike_c last i heard we had hit moon and were aiming for mars. but i don't keep track. [00:06]
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mircea_popescu wasn't it the dog that went to moon ? [00:06]
kakobrekla anything but earth please. [00:07]
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assbot A Private Tour of the CIA's Incredible Museum | History | Smithsonian [00:09]
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BingoBoingo Comment on a site that links to gallery of things to be paranoid about " [00:10]
BingoBoingo Follow festivusazili [00:10]
BingoBoingo Share to Kinja [00:10]
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BingoBoingo Go to permalink [00:10]
BingoBoingo That story about the silenced handgun is ridiculous. Even modern suppressors leave gunshots well over 100 dB range. Nice to know that our spymasters even insist on lying to themselves." Forgets .22lr is a thing [00:10]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: СП-4 [00:13]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well... Always room for improvement [00:20]
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BingoBoingo 'Murica has obola again [00:23]
assbot Ebola Scare Sends Dallas County Sheriff’s Deputy To Hospital « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth [00:23]
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The20YearIRCloud oh joy [00:25]
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thestringpuller w/dinwo 21 [00:27]
BingoBoingo Basically texas needs quarantined nao [00:28]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,937. [00:29]
The20YearIRCloud texas has more health problems from illegals coming over the boarder than it does with ebola (all healthwise) [00:29]
BingoBoingo Nah. [00:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8219 @ 0.00074336 = 6.1097 BTC [-] [00:30]
BingoBoingo I imagine within the decade Mexico will be more concerned about illegals coming from the US than the other way. [00:30]
mircea_popescu The20YearIRCloud depends how bad it gets. [00:31]
BingoBoingo I have a gut feeling that the big reason more US'ians don't follow through with their going to Canada threats is that Canada is too close to what they are leaving. That and Canada doesn't really want them. [00:31]
mircea_popescu from the looks of it they've got maybe even odds to lose control and end up with an epidemic [00:31]
mircea_popescu if the mortality is 20% from the disease and another 10% from the resulting stampede that's about 100mn deaths in the us by 2016. [00:31]
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ben_vulpes do i hafta stop licking eyeballs? [00:33]
asciilifeform and the flights carry on. [00:33]
asciilifeform ebama, obola. [00:33]
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asciilifeform official excuse is, get this, 'you can't get infected on the plane, we check for fever getting off' [00:34]
asciilifeform if chewbacca lives on endor you must acquit. [00:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform there is some merit to this. apparently it's not infectious presymptomatically. [00:35]
asciilifeform sure. [00:35]
ben_vulpes you better lose yourself in the pandemic you own it, you better never let it go you only get one shot do not miss your chance to blow [00:35]
mircea_popescu n ow on the other hand, who gives a shit about west africa flights... [00:35]
asciilifeform yes. [00:35]
asciilifeform ebama does. [00:35]
mircea_popescu i don't get this. you telling me it's specifically because obama is a kenyan citizen ? [00:35]
asciilifeform gotta bring in more, you see, texas seed might die out. [00:35]
mircea_popescu kenya is not even on the list ? [00:35]
mircea_popescu eh get out. [00:36]
asciilifeform nah, it's because this is a golden chance for usg. [00:36]
asciilifeform or at least, someone seems to think so [00:36]
mircea_popescu to... what ? [00:36]
bounce that whole patenting thing? [00:36]
asciilifeform to remain relevant a little longer. [00:36]
chetty but seriously when exactly do you cross the line to being infections? the exact second you show a fever? the first time you cough? of just maybe its actually 5 minutes before ... [00:36]
asciilifeform and to desaparecer certain inconveniences in the chaos. [00:36]
mircea_popescu get out, no govenrment in history survived a large pandemic [00:36]
mircea_popescu nor could it. [00:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00074435 = 14.7381 BTC [+] {2} [00:37]
mircea_popescu chetty apparently it's well after fever. [00:37]
asciilifeform chetty: when exactly do you cross the line << from a sane (e.g. soviet) epidemiologist's point of view - when you set foot in a 'hot zone' - you're infectious until proven innocent. [00:37]
mircea_popescu there's good biological reason for this [00:37]
penguirker New blog post: [00:37]
penguirker New blog post: [00:37]
chetty me dont believe thay actually know for sure [00:37]
BingoBoingo chetty: No one knows where the line is, may vary in different situations [00:37]
mircea_popescu chetty this is roughly like the "can't get aids from mosquitoes/bugs [00:38]
mircea_popescu generally, broadly speaking you don't. [00:38]
mircea_popescu then again... [00:38]
ben_vulpes ottomans survived regular decimations in constantinople, according to "The Sultans" [00:38]
chetty asciilifeform, I like that definition [00:38]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes which specifically ? [00:38]
dub is there acutally more cases of obola or are yall watching fox again [00:38]
ben_vulpes which ottomans? [00:38]
mircea_popescu dub the sherrif apparently is suspcious [00:38]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes which epidemic [00:38]
ben_vulpes "plague" [00:39]
mircea_popescu WHICH lol [00:39]
asciilifeform dub: they're ddosing the public with 'yet another 134 false alarms in city X!' [00:39]
mircea_popescu like, what year. [00:39]
ben_vulpes it was a passing note, take it up with Barber! [00:39]
chetty dub, they took another one into isolation to 'test' [00:39]
ben_vulpes dunno boss. [00:39]
asciilifeform dub: when folks start to burst in shopping malls into bloody mess, they won't be able to keep a lid on it. and they know it. so what can they do? cultivate an atmosphere of bullshit, so the news will be met with maximal skepticism. [00:40]
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mircea_popescu like the 1812/13 ? or prior ? [00:40]
asciilifeform these folks are pro at exactly one thing: keeping the cattle from stampede. [00:40]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The scariest zombies are always the kind that die. I've never much feared undeath. [00:40]
chetty I don't think they even need actual disease now, the fear may be enough [00:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i wouldn't credit them with that. [00:40]
mircea_popescu it's the cattle. [00:41]
chetty on the not shutting down flights, whats wrong with those pilots and aircrews, they can and should shut it down [00:42]
asciilifeform chetty: they want to eat. [00:42]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Most cattle here lack the cardiovascular endurance to really... Stampede... McDonalds et al [00:42]
mircea_popescu ;;google Cocoliztli [00:42]
gribble Megadrought and Megadeath in 16th Century Mexico: ; Cocoliztli - Evidence Detail :: US History: ; Cocoliztli or Cocolitzli? - Indigenous Hemorrhagic Fever and The ...: [00:42]
mircea_popescu teh mexicans had an ebola-ish thing at some point. [00:42]
chetty chetty: they want to eat.// helps to be alive to do that [00:43]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Hanta, still endemic to the America southwest. Goes through dormant, emergent cycles [00:43]
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chetty BingoBoingo, thats a point, with all the drought that should have broken out, haven't seen anything about it [00:44]
mircea_popescu !up Quinn_ [00:44]
-assbot- You voiced Quinn_ for 30 minutes. [00:44]
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BingoBoingo Basically North America can not have an edible mouse like Slovenia can. [00:44]
mircea_popescu they eat the squirels. same deal. [00:45]
Quinn_ mircea, i was told you wanted to talk to me? [00:45]
BingoBoingo Hanta is apparently a creature of the desert. [00:45]
mircea_popescu this is possible. who are you ? [00:45]
Quinn_ I created the bitcoin users in a nutshell cartoon. [00:45]
mircea_popescu o hey. [00:45]
mircea_popescu dja wanna make some bitcoin-assets cartoons ? [00:46]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: prior, iirc. the context of the remark was that the sultan (subject of the chapter) began to address the plagues that had routinely decimated the capital with european medical techniques. this was, iirc, one of the last three to rule before the sultanate was brought to an end by the young turks et al. [00:46]
asciilifeform chetty: in usa we fear unemployment literally more than bloody death of obola. [00:46]
mircea_popescu does your own statement resolve your objection ben_vulpes ? :) [00:47]
Quinn_ Depends on the content, i have a site which is better to contact me through.!commissions/c171x [00:47]
ben_vulpes o ya :D [00:47]
mircea_popescu Quinn_ how does it depend on the content ? [00:47]
ben_vulpes though the causal relationship is a little murky to me [00:47]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes merely correlation was proposed. [00:47]
Quinn_ well I don't know what type of cartoons you want, so i can't tell you if i can agree to it or not. [00:48]
mircea_popescu but i'm preselected, i already seen the cartoon you made, so we're going with that type. [00:48]
Quinn_ But do you have a script /idea? [00:48]
bounce ``The Mexican natives in the encomienda system were treated as virtual slaves, were poorly fed and clothed, and were greatly overworked as farm and mine laborers. This harsh treatment appears to have left them particularly vulnerable to epidemic disease.'' -- worked to death, illness finished it [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7897 @ 0.00074732 = 5.9016 BTC [+] [00:49]
mircea_popescu Quinn_ no, not yet. but if you're amenable to work on one i think we can probably come up with something. [00:49]
mircea_popescu bounce i wouldn't credit post-libtard revolution descriptions of history. [00:49]
mircea_popescu i mean sure, it all fits neatly, "prior to the soviet state and everywhere outside of it kids had it rough and didn't even get any icecream" [00:50]
mircea_popescu still... [00:50]
bounce that's, dunno about their political or historic revisionism inclinations [00:51]
Quinn_ Contact me through my site and we can discuss this further! :) [00:51]
mircea_popescu i'm not going to. [00:51]
mircea_popescu that's the point, actually. [00:51]
mircea_popescu you can contact me through here and we can discuss it further. [00:51]
Quinn_ I don't arrange commissioned work through irc chats, not very trustworthy. [00:52]
mircea_popescu Quinn_ how long does it take you to make one of these ? could you in principle bang out one a week if scripts were availabe ? [00:52]
mircea_popescu it'd work nicely as a weekly featured video for qntra [00:52]
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Quinn_ The amount of work and time dedicated all depends on price. e.g a $300 video that's 30 seconds long will take a week. [00:53]
mircea_popescu hm, irc chats are actually the pinnacle of trustworthy, you just don't know about how it all works yet. [00:53]
mircea_popescu so how long did this video in question take you ? [00:53]
Quinn_ I did it in my spare time between commissions, since it wasn't a source of income so around 3 months [00:54]
Quinn_ and I know nothing about you, a quick google search doesn't reveal anything either [00:55]
mircea_popescu ah so it's very work intensive huh. [00:55]
Quinn_ other than one article citing you as a romanian billionaire which doesn't exactly sound in any way legit. [00:55]
mircea_popescu maybe your google isn't so good ? [00:55]
mircea_popescu for instance [00:55]
assbot Romanian Bitcoin baron 'stumps up $20k to keep OpenBSD's lights on' The Register [00:55]
mike_c not entirely legit. should be "ex-pat romanian". [00:55]
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BingoBoingo Quinn_: At the time he was provably a Billionaire. Now He's mysteriously maybe so. Bitcoin be volatile. [00:57]
mircea_popescu how does it not sound in any way legit ?! [00:57]
BingoBoingo He's at least a plural hundreds of Millionaire though, provably. [00:57]
mircea_popescu bitcoin created what, 50bn worth of value out of the ether. didja think it all went into the usg budget or something ? [00:57]
Quinn_ Not to seem rude, but there;s hundreds or people who claim to be bitcoin millionaires on reddit and such. [00:58]
mircea_popescu well, sure. [00:58]
mircea_popescu nobody is claiming reddit is legit. [00:58]
BingoBoingo ;;ident mircea_popescu [00:59]
gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None [00:59]
mircea_popescu this is an interesting point tho. i guess for the vast majority of the public, bitcoin is this "cool tech", nobody stops to think bitcoin is actually a bunch of saudi princes. [00:59]
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Quinn_ mircea didn't you create a porn site under a false name and stolen content? [01:01]
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mircea_popescu nope. [01:01]
mircea_popescu i was a producer for a bunch shots, but that was back in the 90s. [01:01]
mircea_popescu :D [01:02]
Quinn_ Yeah i think i'll stick to working with trustworthy people like Tapeke and blockchain! Seeya! [01:03]
mircea_popescu cheers. [01:03]
mircea_popescu who the fucke is tapeke [01:03]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform << am i putting this in the next s.nsa report ? [01:03]
mircea_popescu "‎ [01:04]
mircea_popescu Tapeke is the first personal finance application specifically designed for Bitcoin. We help Bitcoiners to keep track of their Bitcoin expenses and incomes and ..." << you couldn't possibly mean that ?! [01:04]
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Naphex lol [01:04]
thestringpuller Yeah i think i'll stick to working with trustworthy people like Tapeke and blockchain! << blockchain is trustworthy nao? [01:05]
mircea_popescu anyway, the sad part here is that 15k youtube views took $300 * 3 * 4.2 = 3800 dollars' worth of this guy's time. [01:05]
mircea_popescu which is fucking scary. [01:05]
mike_c his time must be worth more given he just turned down a weekly video job. [01:06]
mircea_popescu mike_c i don't think he was proceeding very calculatedly tbh. [01:06]
BingoBoingo mike_c: I dunno. It's all about the burn rate. [01:06]
mike_c BingoBoingo: you're all over my homepage (again) [01:08]
assbot Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance. [01:08]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" Odds: 49(Y):51(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,832. [01:08]
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mircea_popescu speaking of which, mike_c dja feel like doing some writing for qrta ? [01:09]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Cool [01:09]
mike_c my once-a-month pace already strains my time for writing. i don't think i'm the right fit for a newsroom. [01:09]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lol! [01:09]
mircea_popescu kk [01:09]
thickasthieves ;;ticker [01:11]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 353.67, Best ask: 353.85, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 353.67, 24 hour volume: 27768.82024727, 24 hour low: 326.93, 24 hour high: 355.0, 24 hour vwap: 342.040137856 [01:11]
thickasthieves chugging along [01:11]
mike_c there was this woman around looking for work who was a writer, but i think she disappeared. [01:11]
mircea_popescu work is apparently hard. [01:12]
mike_c ;;seen wyrdmantis [01:12]
gribble wyrdmantis was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 12 hours, 10 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: Alibaba IPO? Totally unrelated to this downmove? [01:12]
mircea_popescu so much shit on people's eyes getting in the way of their finding a loaf of bread [01:12]
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mircea_popescu !up SweeteDad [01:13]
-assbot- You voiced SweeteDad for 30 minutes. [01:13]
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kakobrekla < PFT! > [01:14]
assbot Logged on 08-10-2014 03:44:52; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i really trust him with 6 but motherfucker is already leading. << bwahahaha WAY AHEAD [01:14]
assbot Logged on 08-10-2014 22:01:06; Quinn_: Yeah i think i'll stick to working with trustworthy people like Tapeke and blockchain! Seeya! [01:14]
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mike_c ;;gettrust tapeke [01:15]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mike_c to user tapeke: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: never [01:15]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla you don't understand how the world works. [01:15]
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kakobrekla bignum is mininum. [01:15]
mircea_popescu trust is a feeling! investing is a +ev activity for the amateur, just like people make a profit growing tomatoes on their windowsil. sticks and stones could break your bones but words is what really matters. etc. [01:16]
xanthyos my dad has lung cancer [01:17]
xanthyos beat pancreatic [01:17]
xanthyos got lung [01:17]
xanthyos 2 years [01:17]
xanthyos and i have been stuck in the chapel perilous in some schizoaffective bullshit for 8 days unable to leave the house or bed [01:17]
xanthyos so i think that deserves a negative assbot rating [01:17]
xanthyos i'm too crazy to live [01:17]
xanthyos farewell [01:17]
BingoBoingo xanthyos: Sucks. [01:17]
mircea_popescu xanthyos this too shall pass eh. [01:18]
xanthyos maybe danielpbarron is right when he says i'm brain damaged and i can't trust my own judgment [01:18]
xanthyos i'm better off dead [01:18]
xanthyos i might buy a bottle of vodka and walk into the woods [01:18]
mircea_popescu wouldja simmer down ? [01:18]
thickasthieves nonsense [01:18]
mircea_popescu i never heard of any man's post pancreatic lung cancer giving their offspring braindamage [01:19]
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BingoBoingo vodka and the woods sounds like a fun way to get a hangover. [01:19]
kakobrekla x maybe danielpbarron is right when he says i'm brain damaged and i can't trust my own judgment < its good you figured this before buying a bottle of vodka and walking into the woods. just listen to us. [01:19]
mircea_popescu and that without even considering the part where you were born before he got it. [01:19]
BingoBoingo i'm too crazy to live << No such thing. [01:20]
xanthyos i haven't had a girlfriend since 2004 [01:21]
mircea_popescu how about steve irvin, BingoBoingo ? that dude was too crazy to live. [01:21]
mircea_popescu xanthyos why not ? [01:21]
xanthyos because i'm too afraid if i got a girlfriend i'd just end up BEATING her like the last one [01:21]
xanthyos how's that for honest? [01:21]
mircea_popescu uh [01:21]
mircea_popescu so get one that likes it. [01:21]
xanthyos i dont' like to do it [01:21]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: No, he was too stupid and the stingray too wily [01:21]
xanthyos ti's not a sadomasochistic thing [01:21]
mircea_popescu well work with me here eh. [01:22]
xanthyos it's impulse control [01:22]
bounce get a gf that could hit you right back, and will if you mope [01:22]
mike_c so go see a shrink? [01:22]
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mircea_popescu yeah, basically, eiother bounce or my solution works. [01:22]
xanthyos have one, but missed my most recent appointment due to anxiety [01:22]
bounce plenty help with all sorts of things. good of you to know where (some of) your weaknesses are. doing something about it is the next step. [01:22]
mircea_popescu it's not "impulse control", once she hands you your ass twice a week for a month [01:22]
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bounce and of course, it's always darkest right before dawn. [01:23]
thickasthieves get someone to help you with motivating and taking care of yourself to do what you need to do [01:23]
mircea_popescu honestly i'd rather go to some full contact sport thing than a shrink if the problem is violence. [01:23]
thickasthieves maybe in addition to the shrink [01:23]
thestringpuller xanthyos: one of my closest friends has schizoaffective disorder. there was a point when he was having tons of episodes everyday that he couldn't really leave the house. But he's doing better now because better treatment is out. Just stick with it mang. [01:24]
bounce close in-person friends >> self-"medication" [01:24]
xanthyos the ocd and borderline personality disorder are the truly disabling things [01:24]
xanthyos i can deal with being schizo [01:24]
mircea_popescu wha do you do for a living anyway ? [01:24]
xanthyos those symptoms are mild [01:24]
xanthyos in 2001 i was diagnosed "gravely disabled" and have been receiving social security since [01:25]
kakobrekla being a test subject [01:25]
mircea_popescu o.O [01:25]
xanthyos i'm one of the entitled socialist dregs that bitcoin is going to weed out [01:25]
mircea_popescu lmao how do you make it in here without wanting to bash people's heads in ? [01:25]
xanthyos and i'm fine with it [01:25]
mike_c not if you buy bitcoin with your SS check [01:25]
xanthyos heh [01:25]
hanbot xanthyos << written for pretty much where you are. [01:26]
assbot This is it | The Whet [01:26]
mircea_popescu hanbot wait, you got schizopersonalify disorder and ocde/whatever too ? [01:26]
hanbot nope [01:27]
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mircea_popescu btw, im kinda surprised none of the evil-overgovernment conspiracy theorists have identified the oecd as the mechanism. [01:27]
mircea_popescu it seems rather obvious. [01:27]
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bounce there's more ways and reasons to feel hopelessly inadequate and unfit for life [01:28]
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bounce shit, every version of the DSM has MORE reasons [01:28]
hanbot i don't put too much stock in the whole dsm classification stuffs. [01:28]
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bounce V got a little out of hand, making it less than useful [01:28]
mircea_popescu bounce or less than useless, as the case may be [01:29]
xanthyos i just don't want to spend hours a week comparing the lengths of my fingernails anymore. [01:29]
xanthyos it's not profitable [01:29]
bounce worse than. possibly quite a lot worse, depending on how much of a party the insurers are going to throw with it [01:29]
mircea_popescu xanthyos so do something useful then. [01:30]
bounce so get out and do something. maybe some moderately physically demanding job [01:30]
mircea_popescu why moderately ? [01:30]
bounce gotta start somewhere. [01:31]
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mircea_popescu lol you mean, first time, single nail ? [01:31]
thickasthieves i think i mentioned pot before, but it doesnt suit you [01:31]
bounce more like something that'll get you nice and tired for a good night's sleep but not something that's so demanding it's easy to give up on [01:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00074747 = 10.3151 BTC [+] {2} [01:32]
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thickasthieves a fam member uses it for his psych issues, along with some meds [01:32]
mircea_popescu hanbot great post btw. [01:32]
thickasthieves he's obsessed with making a home recording studio currently [01:32]
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hanbot ty kindly mircea_popescu [01:32]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves i knew a guy who basically had a soundstage, because he wanted to record all his fucking sessions, which he then catalogued and manically preserved for old age. [01:33]
mircea_popescu died before being 40. [01:33]
thickasthieves it's an endless hobby to obsess on [01:33]
thickasthieves b [01:33]
thickasthieves very antisocial too [01:34]
[]bot Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,764. [01:34]
bounce the socials become rockstars and die at 27 from an overdosis [01:34]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.2409 BTC. Current weight: 94,322. [01:34]
mircea_popescu check it out, that's a choke ain't it. 2 on >200 1 on < 600 [01:35]
bounce hanbot: s/treacle/trickle/ ? [01:38]
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hanbot bounce treacle, sugar refining byproduct. a brownish, sickly-sweet gunk. perhaps a little awkward in there ::shrugs:: [01:40]
mircea_popescu o.O [01:40]
bounce alright, if that's how you wanted it. [01:40]
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danielpbarron ;;rate xanthyos 4 face-to-face associate; 10+ year relationship; [01:49]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user xanthyos has changed from -3 to 4. [01:50]
assbot Tweets met antwoorden van xanthyos (@xanthyos) | Twitter [01:50]
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bounce cute toys: [01:51]
assbot Dolphin Express IX products - Low latency [01:51]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron you know that feed is protected [01:51]
danielpbarron ya, so? [01:51]
bounce protection against the uncool people [01:52]
BingoBoingo The US really should start selling ketamine like aspirin [01:52]
danielpbarron i think you need to be in his L1 to get access :p [01:52]
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BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [01:57]
gribble Current Blocks: 324464 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 111 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 19 hours, 9 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35121138498.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.32629 [01:57]
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asciilifeform bounce: Dolphin Express << very neat. but golden toilet. [02:00]
bounce oh? [02:00]
asciilifeform 'if you have to ask price, you can't afford this' [02:00]
bounce there's that. sort-of implied by the high finance and military as proposed applications. [02:01]
asciilifeform bounce: if you want this (as i do) built it by hand, with fpga-to-pcie board. [02:01]
asciilifeform that's all it is, anyway [02:01]
asciilifeform they're dressing this as 'enterprise' turdware, yes. [02:02]
* bounce doesn't begin to have the soldering skills for that. or the rest of the ee skills. will have to work on that. [02:03]
asciilifeform no need to solder, surplus fpga demo board off 'ebay'. [02:03]
asciilifeform physically-identical to this unit, quite possibly. [02:03]
bounce O_O [02:03]
asciilifeform it's just some glue logic between pcie and external cabling. [02:04]
asciilifeform with possibly a little dma magic on transmitting and receiving ends. [02:04]
asciilifeform people who are not satisfied with '1024 chickens' often buy something like this. [02:04]
asciilifeform you still get same chickens (pc cpus) but now in a shared-memory harness. [02:04]
bounce they can charge quite a lot before it becomes more economical to buy non-chicken cpus [02:05]
asciilifeform non-chicken << you can't buy them. [02:06]
asciilifeform they don't exist. no one has made any such thing for 20+ years. [02:06]
bounce you don't like sparc and ppc either then? [02:07]
asciilifeform bounce: read why s. cray uttered the 'chickens' phrase. [02:07]
asciilifeform some jobs simply do not parallelize. [02:08]
asciilifeform as in, mathematically. [02:08]
asciilifeform the engineers' answer seems to have been, 'well don't do those jobs' [02:08]
bounce true enough. and so the best you can have there today AIUI is a 5+ GHz IBM thing in a massively overpriced package [02:09]
asciilifeform just as when musical notes appeared, music that was difficult to write down with notes - perhaps, disappeared. [02:09]
asciilifeform big fat fucking deal, 5. [02:09]
BingoBoingo some jobs simply do not parallelize. << Single network interface with packet filter [02:09]
asciilifeform 2x speedup, 200x price markup. [02:09]
bounce that gives a lot of headroom for fancy interconnects, no? :-p [02:10]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: given that tcp/ip lets you fuck with ordering, that trivially parallelizes. at least, as fast as you can physically clock the bits off the wire to individual comparison registers, and then back on [02:11]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'narus corp.' (il. they supply a good chunk of nsa's hardware infrastructure) sells these. [02:11]
asciilifeform if you need one - straight to them. take a few $m. [02:11]
asciilifeform back to subject: [02:12]
asciilifeform if you have $maxint and want to convert it to parallelizable number crunching - plenty of people are ready to help. [02:13]
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asciilifeform you'll end up with a small underground city full of intel, amd, whatever boxen. [02:13]
asciilifeform if you have $maxint and want to grind a non-parallelizable problem - god help you. [02:13]
asciilifeform it won't even suffice to build new fabs [02:14]
asciilifeform you'll need to find new chemists. that are (if you're lucky) in their cradles right now. [02:14]
asciilifeform and wait a few decades. [02:14]
asciilifeform and then - maybe you have something. [02:14]
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bounce what's the fastest the labs (not fabs) can do now? 60GHz or so with graphene 'tors? [02:16]
asciilifeform 60GHz of what? [02:16]
asciilifeform of 'not' gate? [02:16]
asciilifeform fat lot of good that'll do you. [02:16]
asciilifeform these are sold for rf applications. [02:17]
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asciilifeform and once you connect two or more - here's your propagation delay. [02:17]
asciilifeform welcome to 1975. [02:17]
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pete_dushenski_ damn, mircea_popescu is on a roll today. [02:18]
pete_dushenski_ this block size talk really lit the fire! [02:18]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: yet somehow the bitcoin crowd is supposed to have forgotten why it got into bitcoin in the first place, and apply the inflationary economy it's ran off from here << they didn't forget as much as were attracted by the *new shininess* in the first place. now new thing is shiny. [02:19]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: so average bandwidth in US (where Gavin is based) is 10Mbit. An incearse of .5 per year is like what 15 next then 22.5 after that etc etc <<< in 20 years the per-block subsidy will be just about 40 bitcents. at that same time, gavin's block size will be 110 mb. << whoa. [02:21]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: and i don't care specifically because we want bitcoin to take over the financial, and with it the political power in the world. all of it. << so *that's* why we're here! [02:22]
* pete_dushenski has purpose now. [02:22]
bounce only now? [02:22]
pete_dushenski wait, no, not purpose, causes! [02:22]
pete_dushenski i should really start reading contravex [02:23]
* bounce thinks of a 'pinky' joke, but fails... like every night. [02:23]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: moreover, the way net neutrality etc is going, not to mention the realpolitics of you know, actual wars, financial or otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising if in 20 years the average us citizen is on dialup << only then will their derping be tamed. when it actually costs something. [02:24]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: and incidentally exactly, but EXACTLY how idiots just like gavin end up with mortgages they can't pay. << such forecasting these guys. [02:24]
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bounce don't be silly. how did you think ma bell got to be big? it wasn't from lack of traffic! [02:25]
pete_dushenski which brings up gavin's latest, yes, make that his THIRD comment on contravex today: [02:25]
pete_dushenski [02:25]
assbot How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski [02:25]
pete_dushenski gavin must drive a lexus because he's definitely in the pursuit of perfection. [02:26]
pete_dushenski bounce ma bell? [02:26]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Notice how he never addresses bandwidth growth seriously [02:26]
bounce ring ring. those guys. [02:26]
pete_dushenski "And then divide by… uh, I think 5, because Pieter’s libsecp256k1 code is 5 times as fast as OpenSSL." << love this line by gavin. [02:27]
pete_dushenski "uhh let me make up numbers and not even mask the fact that they're made up because i'm typing in my retardedness." [02:28]
pete_dushenski chief scientist should be spending his time figuring out a plaintext emoticon for "drool" [02:28]
pete_dushenski !b 3 [02:28]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [02:28]
bounce those numbers are not that important. he could be off by a factor of ten and nobody'd notice. the "paying attention to the needs of EVERYBODY" is killer, though. in light of his committing those same EVERYBODY on upgrading their connectivity every year. [02:30]
Apocalyptic pete_dushenski: Notice how he never addresses bandwidth growth seriously // this is indeed a worthy issue to address [02:30]
BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: I mean right now it would be feasible to put a Bitcoin node pretty much anywhere with a wired internet connection other than Nepal or the Desert, yet... this constant bandwidth grow really only happen consistently in data centers. [02:32]
thestringpuller actually you could probably get away with 56k satellite phone connection in nepal [02:32]
mircea_popescu dude i go make some porn websites with stolen false names for five minutes and when i return the log scrolled off my desk [02:33]
BingoBoingo << New Yorkers forced to confront real America. [02:33]
assbot My Failed Attempt to Suck the Walmart-Flavored Blood of Real America [02:33]
thestringpuller if you had the block chain already downloaded [02:33]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: What took me so long was building a full txindex. [02:33]
thestringpuller the reindexing is killer [02:33]
Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, pretty much, I wasn't being sarcastic [02:34]
BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: I know. [02:34]
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BingoBoingo It's the derps who see adds about hosting prices falling or staying constant and the connections offered increasing... Don't realize how infrequently... people who keep their own machines upgrade their connections... Unless they are running a data center. [02:36]
mircea_popescu some jobs simply do not parallelize. << i have trouble coming to terms with this concept. wtf do you mean ? they'd better parallelize or else can't work on a turing machine [02:36]
asciilifeform ;;google perfectly sequential problem [02:37]
gribble P-complete - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Stackelberg competition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Sequential Equilibrium and Perfect Equilibrium ... - Cornell University: [02:37]
asciilifeform trivial example: sha(sha(sha.............. [02:37]
asciilifeform (notice i didn't say 'mining btc') [02:37]
mircea_popescu sha(sha still paralelizes to some degree. it gotta [02:37]
mircea_popescu rainbow tables. something. [02:37]
asciilifeform not everything 'gotta'.. [02:37]
mircea_popescu but yeah, i see what you mean [02:38]
asciilifeform [02:38]
assbot multithreading - What's the opposite of "embarrassingly parallel"? - Stack Overflow [02:38]
thestringpuller [02:38]
assbot justusranvier comments on Gavin Andresen Proposes Bitcoin Hard Fork to Address Network Scalability [02:38]
BingoBoingo << Mega lulz, fantasy Venture capitalism [02:39]
assbot Valleyball - a fantasy VC league [02:39]
mircea_popescu they didn't forget as much as were attracted by the *new shininess* in the first place. now new thing is shiny. <<< or, moreover, aren't even bitcoin in any sense. notice the earlier guy with his strange "irc is insecure" notions. he probably thinks he's involved. his choices and mental processes however do not reflect that. [02:40]
mircea_popescu wait, no, not purpose, causes! << lol selfpwnt [02:40]
thickasthieves ;;ticker [02:41]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 355.82, Best ask: 356.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.16000, Last trade: 356.98, 24 hour volume: 28804.88232732, 24 hour low: 326.93, 24 hour high: 357.98, 24 hour vwap: 342.641644065 [02:41]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: better me than you! [02:41]
thickasthieves ;;estimate [02:41]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 35106354396.7 based on data since last change | 35353044324.1 based on data for last three days [02:41]
thickasthieves meh [02:41]
pete_dushenski thickasthieves: so much for that diff spike eh? [02:41]
thickasthieves i always assume the spikes are a new batch of miners testing then shipping [02:42]
thickasthieves cuz i am human and must invent gods [02:42]
mircea_popescu "And then divide by… uh, I think 5, because Pieter’s libsecp256k1 code is 5 times as fast as OpenSSL << honestly, at this point i'd want everyone to give a good look to libsecp256k1 [02:42]
mircea_popescu really curious what turdage lurks therein [02:42]
thestringpuller can reddit really get more dumb? [02:42]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: hmm. maybe gavin is trying to tip us off below the radar of his handlers? [02:44]
pete_dushenski maybe he has a soul!!11 [02:44]
thestringpuller "Thank you for posting that article! Brother Taaki knocks it out of the park." << like really [02:44]
thestringpuller "Brother Taaki" ~_~ [02:44]
mircea_popescu i have no idea, but the performance issue triggers my everpresend paranoid suspicion [02:44]
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mircea_popescu justusranvier that's a rather intelligent point. [02:45]
mircea_popescu probably wasted in the venue, but i do kinda see you as this barefoot preacher to the huns. [02:45]
mats_cd03 he has his cult and we have ours [02:45]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03 no. they have their cults and we have a culture. [02:45]
mircea_popescu the difference is staggering. [02:45]
mircea_popescu course... we don't dance nearly as well. [02:46]
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justusranvier mircea_popescu: Which point? [02:47]
mircea_popescu "BRANSON, MO—Among the things that I dislike most in this world are patriotism, religion, tourist traps, country music, and the Walmart corporation. So I traveled to the one area of this nation that captures them all. It did not go as planned." [02:47]
mircea_popescu uh that's a weird trail mix.. [02:47]
mircea_popescu justusranvier [02:47]
assbot Logged on 08-10-2014 23:36:46; thestringpuller: [02:47]
BingoBoingo You know at this point the shit Gavin proposes on the roadmap has to suggest a three letter agency gave him an explosive buttplug. [02:49]
thestringpuller That reminds me of Man on Fire. [02:49]
justusranvier Oh, that one. Sorry, having less-than-optimal connectivity to my bouncer right now [02:49]
BingoBoingo Good movie, Denzel at his best. [02:49]
thestringpuller Where Denzel puts a C4 block in the rectum of a police chief [02:49]
mircea_popescu ss your heart" Southern affectation of intense, polite agreement with everything that makes a mockery of any attempt at challenging conversation. Even when Bucky started ranting about various street artists and why they are or are not sellouts, Berry would strenuously agree, despite the fact that—and I don't think I'm speaking out of turn here—the street art scene in Branson is rather limited. Banksy's new piece? " [02:50]
mircea_popescu Uh HUH!" Dan Witz's mosh pit paintings? "AbsoLUTEly!" This is actually a clever form of communications ju-jitsu, because, over time, you start adopting the same affectation just to fit in, until one day you hear yourself saying "That ghost tour was AMAZING!" and you wonder if you have lost your identity somewhere along Highway 86. [02:50]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [02:50]
mircea_popescu dude, that article's something else. buncha tiresome hippies rolling their eyes at b uncha tiresome fargo inhabitants. [02:50]
mircea_popescu how the fuck do the gawker idjits figure they're any better than the ozarks idiots just through being a different color... [02:50]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Best part. The authors and subjects... all white as gypsum [02:51]
justusranvier This was a more important thread: [02:51]
assbot justusranvier comments on A Scalability Roadmap | The Bitcoin Foundation [02:51]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i didn't mean that color. i just meant, red prius roling headlights at white prius for being such a mainstream pos car. [02:52]
BingoBoingo Ah [02:52]
justusranvier go a few parents up to finnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarting po [02:52]
justusranvier stupid flakey wifi... [02:52]
mircea_popescu lmao your wifi did that ?! [02:53]
BingoBoingo Even thermos doubts Gavin [02:53]
assbot theymos comments on A Scalability Roadmap | The Bitcoin Foundation [02:53]
pete_dushenski my third response to gavin for the day: [02:53]
mircea_popescu anyway, i know what you're saying, it's sensible, but also a very hard problem. [02:53]
assbot How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski [02:54]
pete_dushenski and i'm off to have two lovely romanians make me a home-cooked meal! [02:54]
justusranvier I have a... nonstandard irc client configuration [02:54]
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justusranvier I have a vm running Xorg on a VPS, and I connect this desktop remotely using Spice protocol [02:55]
justusranvier Spice doesn't handle dropped packets very well... [02:56]
mircea_popescu justusranvier so then what happens actually is that if you press a key it sends a packet over and if you depress it similarly [02:56]
mircea_popescu and so if it misses a packet in there you just keep on typing n ? [02:56]
mircea_popescu this boggles the mind [02:57]
justusranvier apparently so [02:57]
mircea_popescu it may be the worst design i ever heard of [02:57]
bounce "house of cards" is still industry best practice. carry on. [02:58]
justusranvier On the plus side, this arrangement means I can run Skype in a virtualized sandbox that's far away from my real desktop [02:59]
BingoBoingo [03:00]
assbot Sayreville football parent reveals sexual nature of alleged locker room hazing ritual (Exclusive) | [03:00]
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thestringpuller ;;google web of trust database [03:08]
gribble Check links against the Web of Trust database - Meta Stack Exchange: ; WOT Services - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; "World's Largest Public Hacker Database" | Forum | WOT (Web of Trust): [03:08]
thestringpuller !s web of trust database [03:08]
assbot 3 results for 'web of trust database' : [03:08]
thestringpuller nanotube: how come I can wget the downloads on ? [03:09]
assbot Index of /bitcoinmirror/otc/today [03:09]
thestringpuller i keep getting permission denied... :( [03:10]
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thestringpuller nvm. stupid me [03:10]
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penguirker New blog post: [03:16]
BingoBoingo Just talked to the lawyer. As long as I stay patient I jsut might win this case through attrition, the DA... just... can't... retain... licensed... lawyers [03:20]
thestringpuller wait what? [03:21]
thestringpuller you're on trial? [03:21]
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asciilifeform !up ninjashogun lol [03:25]
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ninjashogun hi, asciilifeform [03:26]
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ninjashogun bored? [03:27]
thestringpuller i am [03:27]
mats_cd03 your business proposals suck [03:27]
thestringpuller but are amusing [03:27]
mats_cd03 i want you to know that ninjashogun [03:28]
ninjashogun mats_cd03, other people have been fine with them. It's better to have proposals and not want them than not to have them, for most people in a position to seriously consider them. (called 'dealflow'). [03:28]
BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: Still the misdemeanor [03:29]
thestringpuller LOL [03:29]
thestringpuller i'm thestringpuller [03:29]
thestringpuller no The20YearIRCloud [03:29]
thestringpuller not* [03:29]
thestringpuller lol [03:29]
BingoBoingo * thestringpuller, yeah autocomplete [03:29]
thestringpuller :D [03:29]
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ninjashogun what's new, asciilifeform? what's been keeping you busy? [03:30]
BingoBoingo Long day full of turning wood into mulch [03:30]
mats_cd03 you have no skills, nothing to offer besides talk without substance [03:33]
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mats_cd03 you should instead turn your attention to leeching from the government as others like you [03:33]
asciilifeform mats_cd03: actually he does have one thing to offer - the truth about why he came here. but i don't expect to hear it. [03:33]
mats_cd03 you'll have a better return on investment than derping here, i promise [03:34]
TheNewDeal TomServo what was the site with the charts such as btc/gold btc/wti ? [03:34]
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ninjashogun mats_cd03, (and others) I found this article interesting and very relevant to the culture you're buliding here. discussed here: [03:36]
assbot Trouble at the Koolaid Point | Hacker News [03:36]
mats_cd03 i have belonged to 2 cults prior to this one [03:36]
mats_cd03 i left my faith behind at age 11 and enlisted at 18 [03:36]
kakobrekla this is a cult?! [03:37]
mats_cd03 so forgive me if i think youre trite [03:37]
ninjashogun mats_cd03, it's hrad to see what you get out of making statements like this but you expressed to me privately that you were dissatisfied with your work and had to jump through mental hoops to justify how important it might turn out to be in hypothetical (and unlikely) situations. The truth is you could have a bigger impact doing something else, and you know this. (You brought it my attention.) [03:37]
mats_cd03 huh [03:37]
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ninjashogun asciilifeform, you should have a read at -- I found it very enlgihtening. [03:38]
dub its banal and whiny [03:39]
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mats_cd03 i'm a disgruntled IT slave and you offer to enslave me instead [03:39]
asciilifeform aha the doxxing crap [03:39]
mats_cd03 how generous of you [03:39]
ninjashogun mats_cd03, what do you mean "I offer to enslave you instead"? I didn't offer anything but told you you should do something in general terms, i.e. whatever you come up with. I didn't have a specific suggestion for oyu. [03:40]
asciilifeform mats_cd03: see, you have to understand, poor fella's just trying to do a job here. station chief said, 'recruit mole, your budget is initially $0.' so he's gotta do it, or at least fail convincingly. [03:40]
BingoBoingo ninjashogun: [03:40]
assbot weev: "Women in tech", doxing, Kathy Sierra, and the koolaid. [03:40]
mircea_popescu ninjashogun "others" who ? [03:41]
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ninjashogun asciilifeform, tihs is exactly why I linked you -- saying this is literally exactly the same as the DMCA allegation. Nobody knows hwere you came up with it. [03:41]
asciilifeform 'nobody.' [03:41]
asciilifeform [03:41]
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BingoBoingo !b5 [03:42]
ninjashogun asciilifeform, yes in the sense that several people here have said things like "I read thorugh that twice and don't see where USG comes in" [03:42]
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mats_cd03 i've observed both sides of the humint game and ninjashogun is just a failed mba [03:42]
mircea_popescu !up SweeteDad [03:42]
mats_cd03 anxious to con someone with talent for which to substitute as his own [03:42]
-assbot- You voiced SweeteDad for 30 minutes. [03:42]
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ninjashogun mats_cd03, I didn't try to hire anyone here! [03:42]
asciilifeform sufficiently abject failure can look like other kind of sufficiently abject failure [03:42]
asciilifeform like the static on a screen contains many 'movies' [03:42]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [03:42]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [03:43]
asciilifeform humint bugger has to tend, befriend, schoozle, bamboozle - before he is ever permitted to hire. at least in the civilized world - can't speak for crazyland [03:43]
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mircea_popescu yeah hiring for that is like hiring for the press [03:44]
mircea_popescu i doubt anyone ever gets paid anymore. [03:44]
ninjashogun asciilifeform, you are literally talking exactly as described in the article I've just linked. This makes you feel better I guess? [03:44]
* asciilifeform looks forward to seeing butterfly collections fill up with folks banging on the door of the wot, 'i'm not a spammer! here's 150 friends who swear! and none of them are in, it's because you drink koolaid' [03:45]
mircea_popescu it is kinda lulzy. [03:46]
asciilifeform fresh butterfly milk. [03:46]
ninjashogun asciilifeform, actually, scammers don't hvae a problem building up a WoT reputation as has been shown repeatedly through ultimately failed ponzi schemes, fraudulent exchanges, etc. [03:46]
asciilifeform wot is a stochastic system, like thermodynamics. [03:47]
ninjashogun asciilifeform, if I wanted to build up a WoT reputation I would just make a new nick and do some low-value transactions. [03:47]
mircea_popescu lol [03:47]
asciilifeform the air in your fist can heat up to 1000c, theoretically, by itself [03:47]
asciilifeform but go and wait for it. [03:47]
mircea_popescu this entire "o hey, X event is exactly like Y dumbass article i found" is pretty cool tho. [03:47]
mircea_popescu shaman sitting on the steps of white house. "and now president will come out" obama pops out. shaman "i control the presidency!!!1" [03:47]
ninjashogun mircea_popescu, it's pretty hard not to see how making random USG accusations isn't exactly the same as using a made-up hot-button "she used DMCA take-downs"? [03:48]
mircea_popescu because correlation may not be causation, but definitely is an academic career [03:48]
mircea_popescu ninjashogun things you don't understand and things that are random don't share much common ground. [03:48]
ninjashogun mircea_popescu, that is a lot of negatives :) [03:48]
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ninjashogun You're essentially saying everything I don't understand is deterministic (non-stochastic). Well, okay. [03:49]
mircea_popescu no, i'm not. [03:50]
ninjashogun What I mean is that that is the meaning of the sentence "things you don't understand and things that are random don't share much common ground" gramatically. (though i understand you're just being rhetorical). after you factor out the double negatives. [03:50]
asciilifeform ninjashogun: let's start with the basics. you come here, knowing that the sole purpose of allowing you to speak is, more or less, public vivisection for our pleasure. and yet you come. this suggests that you are carrying out your duties to earn your bread. [03:51]
ninjashogun I don't htink that's the sole purpose of letting me speak. [03:51]
TheNewDeal ;;estimate [03:51]
asciilifeform i sympathize with any poor sod who grunts in a salt mine doing something bloody ludicrous and humiliating, but this has to break some sort of record. [03:51]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 35099821874.7 based on data since last change | 35178251876.6 based on data for last three days [03:51]
TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats [03:52]
gribble Current Blocks: 324475 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 100 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 16 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35099821874.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.26479 [03:52]
ninjashogun I think you trolled hard enough for a couple of months to move on to something more constructive. Even weev did. [03:52]
asciilifeform !down ninjashogun [03:52]
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mircea_popescu anyway, this chick is so overdramatic. [03:52]
asciilifeform if someone has another purpose for him - let's have it [03:52]
BingoBoingo Shave the feathers? [03:53]
TheNewDeal If you ever need a spamgun for hire, you know where to find him [03:53]
asciilifeform we all know where the button is, yes. [03:53]
mircea_popescu eh guy's not actually useful, just derpy. [03:54]
asciilifeform except, i suspect that he rarely goes hungry. [03:54]
asciilifeform hell, when we turn his microphone off, we're doing him a favour. perhaps they let him clock out then. [03:54]
mircea_popescu 2. ignore them (they escalate, make your life more miserable, DDoS, ruin your career, etc. i.e. They Win) <<< wait, wut ? [03:54]
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asciilifeform [03:54]
asciilifeform you're not correct that I have any connection with the u.s. government. (or any other government). Other than holding citizenship and in the interests of absolute full disclosure, I served briefly in the military. This isn't text or me saying it [03:54]
asciilifeform lulzies [03:54]
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mircea_popescu such nonsense, really. people this frail have no business in the public view. take a mcd job and be happy there [03:55]
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BingoBoingo Plus to that is McD's is probably more a technology business than most startups [03:56]
BingoBoingo A lot of automation there [03:56]
mircea_popescu yeah [03:56]
mircea_popescu “That’s awful, but you gotta admit… hilarious!” Once again, high-fives all around. This is the world we have created. [03:57]
mircea_popescu dude everyone fancies themselves a "we" and a world creator [03:57]
mircea_popescu anyway, enough of that derpage. [03:57]
bounce using a lot of automated (and suitably squaddie-proofed) tools does not a "technology company" make [03:57]
* asciilifeform spent 3 days getting a wireless card to work, all because some shitgnome silently removed support for 'wireless extensions' in a driver (e.g. 'iwconfig') in the name of chope and hange. [03:58]
bounce linux and wireless is a neverending three stack soap opera [03:58]
BingoBoingo bounce, but they fuel even more automated and idiotproof machines [03:58]
asciilifeform bounce: only really an issue on laptops, where you can't install a civilized replacement for $gizmo [04:00]
mircea_popescu well... usb. [04:00]
asciilifeform then it isn't a laptop, but a crate of crapolade on wires [04:00]
asciilifeform that, e.g., you can't switch off (how does the usb dongle behave on power-low mode? etc) [04:01]
asciilifeform I think you can improve your device by communicating with the host in any other way (LED and webcam, speaker and microphone, whatever), other than as a USB device, which I don't think is the most secure interface for your usage case. No, I didn't have anyone else tell me to tell you this! [04:01]
asciilifeform lol! [04:01]
asciilifeform i can't resist! [04:01]
bounce so !up and at'em [04:02]
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asciilifeform !up ninjashogun [04:02]
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kakobrekla i took out the wifi card in one of my laptops. im sure i can install another card. [04:02]
BingoBoingo reeses: 'Muricanized AK << Nao Pink [04:03]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: quite a few of the newer boxes deliberately choke if you install an aftermarket card (if you can even find one that fits the slot) [04:03]
bounce needs more hello kitty decals [04:03]
ninjashogun this is the actual pastebin, so we're not being selective - [04:04]
assbot you're not correct that I have any connection with the u.s. govern - [04:04]
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ninjashogun thanks, assbot lol [04:04]
asciilifeform right [04:04]
ninjashogun that is not an actual title, just the first line that was already quoted. [04:04]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Most laptops with bios locks on card models accept any mini-pci-e wireless cards in the second, cellular modem mini-pcie with just a bit of tape to cover a pin [04:04]
mircea_popescu ? [04:05]
mats_cd03 such praise for asciilifeform [04:05]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not this one. [04:05]
BingoBoingo Ah [04:05]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: at any rate, these are legion. [04:06]
asciilifeform the correct solution would be to quit doing work that requires laptops, but i cannot afford this. [04:06]
bounce what? no. build your own laptop. :-p [04:07]
bounce bunny huang did. well, the mainboard part. the rest is still "some assembly required". [04:08]
asciilifeform bounce: that is not a laptop. [04:08]
asciilifeform a turd is not a sausage, even if you eat with relish. [04:08]
bounce well, a SMOD then. [04:08]
asciilifeform bounce: [04:09]
assbot Delusionist [04:09]
ninjashogun asciilifeform, that is a hilarious cartoon. the punchline is great. [04:11]
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BingoBoingo !up moldysnizz [04:23]
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moldysnizz Well, hi there [04:24]
BingoBoingo Hello [04:24]
moldysnizz I was just about to bitch that I funked up my gpg key, but it seems to be working again. [04:24]
moldysnizz Had to make a new one, the old had expired. [04:25]
moldysnizz Not really sure what the propper protocal is. [04:25]
BingoBoingo Don't put expiration dates on the keys? [04:26]
moldysnizz Hmmm [04:26]
moldysnizz OK [04:26]
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ninjashogun guys, I've got to go, it's very late here. thanks for the up and the links, I'll talk to you next time. [04:27]
TheNewDeal ;;calc (21.35-1.4)/98 [04:27]
gribble 0.203571428571 [04:27]
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TheNewDeal ;;calc (21.35-1.4)/98*3600 [04:27]
gribble 732.857142857 [04:27]
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moldysnizz Crap. Gotta go to the store before beer sales end. [04:29]
moldysnizz Get some shit tickets too! [04:29]
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BingoBoingo moldysnizz: Well, get to work on that [04:30]
TheNewDeal ;;tslb [04:30]
gribble Time since last block: 29 minutes and 3 seconds [04:30]
moldysnizz heh. Ya, it's getting cold out. [04:30]
moldysnizz Plus, beer. [04:30]
moldysnizz When I get back may I bug you about gpg stuff? I was hope'n to test some crap out. Maybe work on a howto sheet for nubs. [04:32]
BingoBoingo moldysnizz: If I'm awake. [04:32]
BingoBoingo Now that cazalla's back trying to get back to 'Murica time for the qntra [04:33]
moldysnizz Rock'n catch ya later BingoBoingo [04:33]
moldysnizz I don't know what any of that means. [04:33]
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BingoBoingo moldysnizz: There's a lot to catch up on. [04:35]
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TomServo TheNewDeal: [04:35]
assbot kimono : Bitcoin Correlator [04:35]
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moldysnizz OK, I'll be back in about an hour. [04:35]
moldysnizz With beer. [04:35]
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TheNewDeal gracias [04:35]
moldysnizz Oh. I'm teathered to my phone. Need znc, must logout [04:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00074202 = 13.8387 BTC [-] {2} [04:36]
TomServo de nada [04:36]
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nanotube nanotube: how come I can wget the downloads on <- i think you probably mean "cant", and the answer is i don't know, neofutur keeps that mirror. you can wget from [04:59]
assbot Index of /bitcoinmirror/otc/today [04:59]
thestringpuller thanks nanotube! i didn't know the main one. [05:02]
cazalla xanthyos, start a garden, makes the world of difference [05:04]
nanotube np :) [05:05]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell moldysnizz off to bed [05:08]
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danielpbarron ;;rate ninjashogun -1 doesn't understand the WoT [05:17]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ninjashogun has changed from 1 to -1. [05:17]
assbot Logged on 09-10-2014 00:45:00; ninjashogun: asciilifeform, if I wanted to build up a WoT reputation I would just make a new nick and do some low-value transactions. [05:17]
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thestringpuller oh its danielpbarron [05:23]
thestringpuller i haven't seen you in a bit [05:23]
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mircea_popescu xanthyos, start a garden, makes the world of difference < << actually this is quite good advice. [05:25]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron it's generally the common refuge of the inept, to pretend that "if they wanted" [05:26]
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thestringpuller you garden in your new place mircea_popescu ? [05:26]
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nubbins` mircea_popescu: nubbins`: you guys and your normcore style << do elaborate! << this thing where one just barfs raw HTML elements all over the page [05:34]
nubbins` did you paint your house grey? [05:34]
thickasthieves Tim Draper to head CSIRO [05:35]
nubbins` with blue shutters that turn purple when you open them? [05:35]
cazalla catching up on logs and ya know, everyone shits on how qntra looks [05:35]
thickasthieves hmm [05:36]
thickasthieves is my google lying to me [05:36]
thickasthieves yeha it is [05:36]
thickasthieves fukn spam sites [05:36]
nubbins` cazalla weird, i wonder why [05:37]
cazalla yeah, i'm reading it's venture capitalist Larry Marshall [05:37]
penguirker New blog post: [05:37]
nubbins` you can do minimalist without stooping to using browser defaults [05:37]
cazalla nubbins`, i actually like it [05:37]
nubbins` well, there's that :D [05:38]
cazalla but it is something that can be improved later [05:38]
thestringpuller make it work first [05:39]
thestringpuller make it pretty later? [05:39]
cazalla anyway, while driving such long distances, i got to listening to let's talk bitcoin episodes and in one of the latests, adreas concedes bitcoin isn't for africa but maybe now philippines, argentina [05:42]
thestringpuller did he say why not africa? [05:43]
cazalla well, he said africa in a few decades maybe [05:43]
cazalla but more 2nd world because they have better internets [05:44]
thestringpuller argentina uses bitcoin for remittence right now from what I've read [05:44]
thestringpuller argentines use* [05:44]
cazalla maybe i use 2nd world wrong [05:44]
thestringpuller probably less red tape to deploy an atm in the 2nd world. [05:46]
thestringpuller if none at all. [05:46]
mod6 cazalla: i like how it looks. simple. and looks good with lynx. [05:47]
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Namworld nanotube napedia Naphex nick1234abcd NormDePloome nubbins` [05:52]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller nah can't be bothered. but also am not depressed. [05:52]
mircea_popescu nubbins` how do you do html, xml-encapsed ?! [05:52]
mircea_popescu o look at that, hanbot qntra. [05:54]
thestringpuller "Not only is this confusing for consumers, it does not fit in existing systems and software for accounting practices." << uh it fits an0 [05:55]
thestringpuller and zero asset... [05:55]
mircea_popescu you can do minimalist without stooping to using browser defaults << i don't think that's stooping. [05:55]
* hanbot will write for gray and blue and purple sites [05:56]
asciilifeform << turd? yes. but here's a little story behind it. think, why would anyone build a device like this? [05:56]
assbot Re: USB reset xhci_hcd for ELAN touchscreen -- Linux Input [05:56]
mircea_popescu so the formidable mpoe-pr lives :D [05:57]
asciilifeform (what kind of device? a 2d plane digitizer that sits on usb, meant to be used as 'touch' gizmo. and it pisses GBs of usb disconnect garbage into log -if and only if you don't use it-.) [05:57]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller the "working group" hasn't yet heard of bitcoin [05:57]
mircea_popescu they're belabouring on the outskirts of the fiat world still. [05:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform like a canary of sorts ? [05:58]
asciilifeform sorta. [05:59]
asciilifeform why i even mention it? because it's an example of a device that loudly, proudly, pisses on the usb spec (spirit and letter thereof) but is tolerated because for most people - it appears harmless. [05:59]
asciilifeform but build a system where it isn't milked (usb pipe with non-null payloads kept going) and drown in shit. [06:00]
asciilifeform and incidentally, i know just how the author arrived at this - he probably used the 'watchdog' feature of the micro which implements the device [06:02]
asciilifeform i.e., register that cycles its power if not updated every x msec. [06:02]
asciilifeform and only updated guess where - interrupt handler (that's only entered if os is using the digitizer, naturally) [06:02]
asciilifeform i don't even have to disassemble the beast, extract the fw, and reverse it to have a pretty solid guess [06:03]
asciilifeform moral: turdware is everywhere [06:03]
asciilifeform moral2: 'crashes as response to unexpected inputs - incl. lack of input - are ok' attitude is a plague that corrupts everything it touches. [06:05]
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asciilifeform moral3: it is contagious. because it is impossible to implement a sane os which handles this insane device and adds up to sanity. [06:06]
mircea_popescu could just ignore it [06:06]
asciilifeform but that's not sane. [06:06]
mircea_popescu there's nothing insane about refusing to support lunacy [06:06]
asciilifeform 'enumerated badness' [06:06]
mircea_popescu the converse, the expectation that everything is s upported, is insane. [06:07]
asciilifeform yes. but it didn't happen in empty space, but from the 'tower of babel' situation [06:07]
mircea_popescu you can't install airplane flaps on your car. somehow this is perfectly comprehensible. why should you be able to use a noncompliant usb stick ? [06:07]
asciilifeform why the everliving fuck does there have to be more than one way to talk to a mouse ? [06:07]
mircea_popescu the false dichotomy here being that either you apple (onlt accept stuff we made) or else foss (accept any turd) [06:08]
asciilifeform i recently had the occasion to read a treatise on machine screws. [06:08]
mircea_popescu the correct solution is, only accept stuff that does x y z [06:08]
asciilifeform somehow, the world arrived at a handful of precisely defined thread types that are interoperable. [06:08]
mircea_popescu whoever makes it, either makes it to spec or it won't work. period and enforced. [06:08]
asciilifeform precisely. [06:08]
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mircea_popescu this is enough of a revolution in computing as is. [06:09]
mircea_popescu build a machine from the ground up, that works like that. [06:09]
asciilifeform obligatory: [06:09]
assbot Loper OS » The Hardware Culture, or: What They Build, Works! Can We Say the Same? [06:09]
mircea_popescu and sure, the coindesks of the world will derp about how "xe has difficulty with bitcoin". so ? [06:09]
asciilifeform ^ written long ago [06:10]
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mircea_popescu fuck them, they should be thankful for this difficulty now, and humbly submit [06:10]
mircea_popescu the difficulty later will be worse. [06:10]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my turd, if it had a point, mainly had the point of - the grave harm of 'tolerance.' [06:11]
mircea_popescu well, tolerance understood as, "ignore it". [06:12]
mircea_popescu as much as we'd all like to see little machine guns come out of the chassis and blow things away [06:12]
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asciilifeform when you turn up one of these pieces of junk, on your desk, or worse yet, chained to it (yes, you bought one set - can buy another, what'll the crapolade be in the next gadget?) - it happens because other folks - lived with it. [06:12]
asciilifeform because someone decided to be 'tolerant.' [06:12]
asciilifeform and 'helpful.' [06:12]
mircea_popescu apparently tolerance as in the libtard notion has a lot of drawbacks [06:13]
asciilifeform forced mistake, in many cases - sometimes, you have the luxury of setting fire to the whole shebang and walking away [06:13]
mircea_popescu and the supposed benefits are not really that readily apparent. what's the benefit to beint tolerant supposed to be, again ? [06:13]
asciilifeform other times - no [06:13]
mircea_popescu something something powerless people ?. ahem... fuck em ? [06:13]
asciilifeform somebody gets fucked, regardless, just like something had to burn to power my computer to write this (precious little fission or hydro where i live) [06:15]
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asciilifeform question instead is, what burns, what kind of exhaust gas [06:15]
assbot DonkDown – Live Radio [06:15]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron have fun [06:15]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: familiar with 'postel's law' ? [06:17]
mircea_popescu ie robustness [06:17]
asciilifeform it's a little gibblet of dreary nonsense parroted in defense of the the kind of crap described earlier. [06:17]
asciilifeform 'be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send.' [06:18]
mircea_popescu it's not nearly as smart as it would want to be. its direct equivalent would be "never rape anyone and enjoy being raped whenever it happens" [06:18]
mircea_popescu it wouldn't go very far now would it. [06:18]
asciilifeform perfectly sane 2nd half is like a needle through which 1st clause is injected through your brain. [06:18]
asciilifeform lol [06:18]
mircea_popescu myeah. funny how obvious the obvious is once the correspondingly larger sex-and-money processor is put to the task. [06:19]
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asciilifeform incidentally, the postel crap reminds me of the fountain through which the bulk of modern pc retardation flows forth: the web browser. as in, literally the only reason one cannot use os setup circa, e.g., 2001 (with a patch here & there) [06:20]
asciilifeform because modern111!1111 browser won't build there [06:20]
asciilifeform and if built (miracle, hand-massaged bottle-fed libraries, etc) won't run. [06:21]
asciilifeform because won't fit in 64M of the machine in question [06:21]
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asciilifeform for no particular or identifiable reason. [06:21]
asciilifeform why, precisely, does it take four megs to render a tab filled with 1kb of ascii text? [06:22]
asciilifeform because herpderpr0gr355? [06:22]
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mike_c <+cazalla> catching up on logs and ya know, everyone shits on how qntra looks << luckily that's about the 50th most important thing.. [06:37]
mike_c when's hanbot going to start contributing? [06:37]
mike_c probably can't curse as much as on the forums [06:38]
thestringpuller probably not a need since the intended audience isn't retards [06:39]
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mike_c there is a need for good writers that know bitcoin. [06:39]
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thestringpuller not a need for cursing* [06:40]
thestringpuller sorry for ambiguity [06:40]
mike_c oh :) yeah. [06:40]
hanbot news doesn't call for it so often, i don't think. [06:40]
mike_c i've actually been impressed that they've managed to keep from cursing while talking about VC's and such [06:40]
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hanbot mike_c> when's hanbot going to start contributing? << like an hour ago? [06:41]
mike_c oh? cool. [06:42]
mike_c look at that, i'm behind the times. [06:42]
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mike_c i am really excited about this thing, i hope it keeps up. it would be so awesome if i never had to look at coindesk again. [06:44]
hanbot gotta try new things :) [06:44]
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thestringpuller or bitcoin magazine, or r/bitcoin... [06:45]
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mircea_popescu because modern111!1111 browser won't build there << what is the "modern browser" for ? [06:54]
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mircea_popescu when's hanbot going to start contributing? << latest was hers neh ? [06:54]
mircea_popescu i am really excited about this thing, i hope it keeps up. it would be so awesome if i never had to look at coindesk again. << you have NO IDEEA how awesome this thing actually is [06:55]
mircea_popescu the reveal, late oct/early november [06:55]
mike_c exciting! [06:57]
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asciilifeform what is the "modern browser" for << search engines & their output, mostly. [07:00]
decimation asciilifeform: somehow the browser has morphed into the 'new os' - and it's even shittier than wintel [07:00]
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asciilifeform decimation: browser is 'judas goat' that leads folks into places they would never voluntarily go [07:02]
asciilifeform in terms of crapolade accumulation in the conceptual stack [07:03]
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asciilifeform browser is why 'i wanna run my old freebsd 4.7 box' - 'sorry, no, not if you still want to log in & pay your electric bill online.' [07:04]
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decimation old analog cell phones allocated 25 khz of dedicated bandwidth to each call (as I recall) [07:05]
decimation 'modern' phones allocate ~8kbit/sec w/lossy compression [07:05]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo will appreciate how it is entirely impossible to use a mac os 9 (or prior) box for a daily machine today. [07:05]
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asciilifeform decimation: yes, and somehow we aren't supposed to notice the atrocious quality. [07:05]
asciilifeform and unlike dr. seuss and his 'whispermaphone' - not even secret. [07:06]
decimation but, you see now 'everyone' has a 'phone' [07:06]
decimation 'everyone' can 'use' a 'computer' and 'the internet' [07:06]
asciilifeform this is the basic phenomenon here. [07:06]
asciilifeform 'everyone'ization. [07:06]
decimation I had opportunity to use an 'old' agilent spectrum analyzer a few days ago [07:08]
mircea_popescu decimation you know who was talking on the cellphone back in those old days ? [07:08]
decimation it lacked windows, made me feel good [07:08]
decimation mircea_popescu: certianly not 'everyone' [07:08]
mircea_popescu i mean what, hollywood used it to establish just how speshul redford is to make sharon stone fucking him for money acceptable to the housewife in attendance [07:08]
mircea_popescu i mean moore not stone [07:09]
mircea_popescu i always mix my starlets. [07:09]
decimation remember the 80's movies & tv where the rich guy in the limo has a 'car phone'? [07:09]
asciilifeform pre-cellular (trunked radio) [07:09]
asciilifeform even soviets had them. [07:10]
asciilifeform half a dozen or so per city, max. [07:10]
decimation you can buy an 'agilent e4406a' on ebay for ~$1k, covers 7mhz to 4 ghz, windows free [07:11]
dub dad had one in his porshe 924 [07:11]
decimation my understanding is that early analog cell phones weren't even trunked, they had a dedicated channel while connected [07:11]
mircea_popescu << btw. [07:12]
assbot “Progress” and “Revolution” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [07:12]
asciilifeform incidentally, [07:14]
assbot The Lorax -- Dr. Seuss (1972 original version) - YouTube [07:14]
penguirker New blog post: [07:16]
decimation the french revolution wasn't only caused by the socialists, it was also caused by the pathetic derpiness of the 'nobility' and monarchy [07:19]
decimation many of whom were actively trying to undermine the other nobility in the name of 'progress' etc [07:19]
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mircea_popescu not in the name of progress, no. [07:22]
mircea_popescu i don't really like the mr trololo treatment [07:23]
decimation in the name of égalité? [07:23]
mircea_popescu well this is a very difficult question. but a good part of it is that nietzsche and sartre are not innovators except formally. fundamentally, they were retracing preexisting ideas, [07:25]
mircea_popescu and so the superman and the existentialist are both models of the late french aristocracy [07:25]
mircea_popescu people with the drive to push the absurd quite very far, and with the means to actually do so irl rather than in their own minds/reddit pages. [07:26]
xanthyos << danielpbarron bit starts 77 min in, gonna listen to this because i was too busy pissing on my mom's driveway when the show was live [07:27]
mircea_popescu i don't really like the mr trololo treatment << this was re the seuss link [07:30]
decimation I hadn't made the connection between french elite absurdity and Nietzsche - an interesting connection [07:30]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: somebody (pixar?) recently came out with an even worse one [07:30]
asciilifeform that actually made the 1972 picture look good. [07:30]
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decimation the reddit of 1789, france was the Estates-General and the derpage associated with the third estate [07:33]
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decimation ;;ticker [07:35]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 351.84, Best ask: 353.71, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 351.84, 24 hour volume: 28774.86534965, 24 hour low: 327.01, 24 hour high: 359.87, 24 hour vwap: 345.196943781 [07:35]
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decimation in contrast to the French revolution, the American revolution seems much more... conservative? The result of the American revolution largely enshrining the existing governing arrangement in place (while sowing the seeds of future destruction with lofty idiotic language that no one at the time took seriously) [07:38]
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decimation !up stormlight [07:43]
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decimation << "September 30, around 5am" << wait - was that Argentina time? Because they are UTC-3, which makes it almost 2300 29 Sep local time? [07:49]
assbot Introducing the qntra pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [07:49]
xanthyos lol danielpbarron 97 minute mark with the hypothetical situation of you catching elton john buttfucking in your hotel [07:49]
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The20YearIRCloud That's a bit scary [07:53]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: people with the drive... to actually do so irl rather than in their own minds/reddit pages << they would if they could. [08:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00074806 = 4.3387 BTC [+] {2} [08:35]
mircea_popescu << this stuff is such greatness. [08:37]
assbot Digging through archives yields gold pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [08:37]
mircea_popescu "The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigg [08:37]
mircea_popescu er, more serious, and more disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks are difficult for ordinary people understand. I [08:37]
mircea_popescu have trouble understanding your proposal - ordinary users will be easily bamboozled by a government sponsored security update. Further, when the crisis hits, to disagree with the line, to doubt that the regulators are right, and the problem is the evil speculators, becomes political suicide, as it did in America in 2007, sometimes physical suicide, as in Weimar Germany." [08:37]
The20YearIRCloud Maybe i can steal your bitcoin news website [08:42]
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mircea_popescu %d [09:39]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 311414.90 in 403 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.42 [09:39]
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mircea_popescu Confirmed total: 19000 BTC [09:47]
mircea_popescu heh! [09:47]
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RagnarDanneskjol thats a nice number = 5414.88 oz xau [09:52]
mircea_popescu basically bitbet hgas paid 190 btc in dividends to date [09:54]
mircea_popescu not that many things in bitcoin with a better record [09:54]
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cazalla this upcoming article, too speculative? some random shit kicker owes $$ while his company begins accepting bitcoin [09:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "Suppose you want to support strings and have a string comparison instruction. You might think that "it's done in the hardware", so it's blindingly fast. It isn't, because the hardware still has to access memory, one word per cycle. A superscalar/VLIW assembly loop would run just as quickly; the only thing you'd save is a few bytes for instruction encoding. On the other hand, your string comparison thingi [09:55]
mircea_popescu e has got you into several sorts of trouble" << my question is, why one word per cycle ? [09:55]
mircea_popescu cazalla not enough data to make a call [09:55]
penguirker New blog post: [09:58]
mircea_popescu cazalla imo it's good. [10:00]
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mircea_popescu !up pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa [10:02]
-assbot- You voiced pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa for 30 minutes. [10:02]
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pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa hello [10:02]
fluffypony that's a lot of a's [10:02]
mircea_popescu what brings you and your a's here ? [10:03]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa oh I liked your comment about bitcoin not being for poor people [10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa on twitter someone quoted of you today [10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa I am friends of DPB and Xan [10:04]
mircea_popescu a ok [10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa but I am from SF bay area [10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa not east coast [10:04]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa my ex gf is a fake socialist who works for btcjam [10:05]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa and talks about bitcoin helping poor people [10:05]
mircea_popescu is she hot ? [10:05]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa and i decided to become a full blown capitalist [10:05]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa since love dosent exist [10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa she was a hot samoan [10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa samoan white girl [10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa [10:06]
assbot About Us - BTCJam [10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa "alexis" [10:06]
pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol [10:06]
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pakaka these millineal socialist commies into bitcoin are dangerous [10:07]
pakaka millinenial* [10:07]
pakaka however you spell it [10:07]
pakaka that site is sort of irrelvent with what I have heard about the WOT though. [10:09]
mircea_popescu so good for you. [10:10]
pakaka I wonder if andreas antonopoulos is a Fed. [10:11]
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xanthyos hi pakaka [10:15]
pakaka hi [10:16]
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pakaka i guess andreas antonopoulos didnt have any cash and had alexis buy him a pack of cigs and he said he would send her bitcoin for it [10:17]
pakaka which he never did [10:17]
pakaka #scam [10:17]
pakaka after some bitcoin meetup in sf a few months ago [10:17]
pakaka what a chump [10:17]
xanthyos how do you collateralize loans for something whose value is so volatile? [10:17]
xanthyos are they a bank? [10:18]
mircea_popescu lol this scamming the noobie carnie sounds so mark twain like. [10:19]
xanthyos i sure do love painting this fence [10:20]
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mircea_popescu anyway. that's all for me, take it ezzy [10:21]
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nubbins` antononoypopoponpoynlyous testimony for canadian senate yesterday was pretty good [18:34]
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thickasthieves i havent watched that yet, but if you say it' [18:35]
thickasthieves s good i will [18:35]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` video ? [18:36]
mircea_popescu o hey there princess. [18:36]
nubbins` sec [18:36]
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assbot Andreas M. Antonopoulos educates Senate of Canada about Bitcoin (Oct 8, ENG) - YouTube [18:36]
BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Well, maybe someone actually bothers to call their toll free number [18:36]
nubbins` [18:37]
assbot Andreas M. Antonopoulos educates Senate of Canada about Bitcoin (Oct 8, ENG) - YouTube [18:37]
nubbins` ooooo too slow [18:37]
mircea_popescu mebbe qntra publishes a summary, then i can "watch" it too [18:37]
mircea_popescu !up princessnell [18:37]
-assbot- You voiced princessnell for 30 minutes. [18:37]
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princessnell ty, howdy! [18:37]
nubbins` mircea_popescu it's more of a radio thing than a tv thing, throw it on in the bg ;p [18:38]
mircea_popescu how about you write a piece of bitcoin news and submit it to cazalla princessnell ? [18:38]
mircea_popescu nubbins` noty [18:38]
mircea_popescu the web is for text. [18:38]
princessnell for qntra? [18:38]
mircea_popescu these video heretic will all go to hell. [18:38]
mircea_popescu princessnell yeah [18:38]
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nubbins` so subscribe to C-SPAN [18:38]
nubbins` they carry that in argentina, right? [18:38]
mircea_popescu i have nfi. [18:39]
nubbins` wait fuck that's the usa one [18:39]
nubbins` what channel do i watch my government on? [18:39]
princessnell sure i'll do that now [18:39]
mircea_popescu love ya. [18:39]
nubbins` CPAC [18:39]
mircea_popescu that sounds like the us communist party [18:39]
nubbins` princessnell why not transcribe that video, it's only 2 hours long ;p [18:39]
mircea_popescu why don't YOU transcribe it ? [18:39]
nubbins` hmm, because i'm not in the mood to do favors? [18:40]
mircea_popescu oic [18:40]
nubbins` mostly because transcribing 2h of video would be an incredibly arduous task [18:41]
mircea_popescu which kinda explains the unholy proliferation of the "vlogger". derp that can't be bothered to write shit down because it's too much work, and so instead he wants everyone to see past his out of shape flesh and obnoxiously poor vocalisation. beause that's somehow not a lot of work. [18:42]
nubbins` it's work put on someone else tho [18:42]
bounce fobbing off is the thing to do [18:43]
BingoBoingo which kinda explains the unholy proliferation of the "vlogger". derp that can't be bothered to write shit down because it's too much work, and so instead he wants everyone to see past his out of shape flesh and obnoxiously poor vocalisation. beause that's somehow not a lot of work. << Why Vlogger's can't be relevant [18:43]
BingoBoingo It's unethical to allow it [18:43]
princessnell can't find the live cast [18:44]
princessnell oh its not for a few hours [18:44]
princessnell nm [18:44]
mircea_popescu princessnell linked above neh ? [18:45]
thickasthieves "that literally blew my mind" anotnononoopolpus [18:45]
princessnell oh the andreas vid [18:45]
nubbins` LITERALLY [18:47]
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nubbins` i don't think the phrase "blew my mind" has a literal meaning [18:47]
nubbins` what does the verb "blow" mean in this context? [18:47]
nubbins` like, you blew a gasket? your mind stopped working and a part had to be replaced? [18:47]
mats_cd03 maybe hes being funny [18:48]
thickasthieves "i think the most common use for bitcoin is charitable giving, donations, and tipping" antonop [18:48]
thickasthieves does getting scammed fall under 'charitable giving' ? [18:49]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [18:50]
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thickasthieves "a 10-year-old can create a (crypto)currency and that currency can be as secure as the currency created by a monarch" anotnop [18:53]
thickasthieves "...and without cost" [18:53]
thickasthieves this guy.... [18:53]
BingoBoingo [18:54]
assbot U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission Meeting on Bitcoin Derivatives Today : Bitcoin [18:54]
nubbins` thickasthieves, but is it not true 8) [18:54]
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thickasthieves if it has no cost, it has no value, no security [18:55]
nubbins` i believe he meant the cost of creating it [18:56]
nubbins` sorta like how you paid $7.25 to get ATC made or w/e [18:56]
Apocalyptic %d [18:56]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 313147.49 in 383 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.33 [18:56]
thickasthieves well in the context he is preaching glories of blockchain tech [18:57]
thickasthieves so it is misleading [18:57]
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thickasthieves to say child coins are secure and no cost [18:57]
nubbins` ehh, you're reading too much into it [18:57]
nubbins` put another way: whether satoshi is a 10yo kid or Queen Beatrice, bitcoin is what it is [18:57]
thickasthieves maybe [18:57]
thickasthieves i think he conveniently glosses over the security aspects of the conversation [18:58]
nubbins` it's the features, not the creator, that the relevance is applied to [18:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00074219 = 3.9707 BTC [+] [18:58]
nubbins` oh sure, but that's too low-level for a senate hearing [18:58]
thickasthieves he paints current infosec as hopeless [18:58]
nubbins` half those people in the room don't know what the fuck a computer is [18:58]
nubbins` just wait til the lady from NB starts asking questions. [18:59]
thickasthieves but its also hopeless to think common men can secure their coins themselves [18:59]
nubbins` agreed, 100%, and he admits as much [18:59]
thickasthieves word [18:59]
nubbins` it's also hopeless to think that your bank can secure your money [19:00]
nubbins` difference is, banks try to make you believe the opposite [19:00]
thickasthieves yeah [19:00]
mircea_popescu princessnell they were discussing some testimony or w/e [19:01]
nubbins` whereas btc fanatics will freak out at you and tell you that your security, no matter how tight, is brutally sub-par [19:01]
thickasthieves and then they go home and use their one mobile device to log in via 2fa on same [19:01]
mircea_popescu does getting scammed fall under 'charitable giving' ? <<< yes. people charitably gave to neobee so that antonoscampulous could bum ciggs off people and derp before the candian senate. [19:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 2.00097912 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 174 satoshi per share [19:02]
nubbins` good thing none of us were tangled up in NEOBEE [19:02]
thickasthieves pphew [19:02]
nubbins` imagine the guilt at enabling [19:02]
mircea_popescu well apparently the twerp has no such issue [19:02]
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mircea_popescu and from what i recall reading about canadian politicians, it's n o wonder they invited him [19:03]
nubbins` ;;google mike duffy [19:03]
gribble Mike Duffy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Mike Duffys: Irish Restaurant and Sports Bar - St Louis MO: ; Town and Country Irish Food Menu - Best Burger N St ... - Mike Duffys: [19:03]
mircea_popescu vermin seeking vermin and all that. [19:03]
nubbins` ;;google pamela wallin [19:03]
gribble Pamela Wallin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Pamela Wallin - Journalist, Diplomat, Entrepreneur & Author: ; Pamela Wallin says she regrets repaying Senate expenses | Toronto ...: [19:03]
nubbins` ;;google canadian senate scandal [19:04]
gribble Canadian Senate expenses scandal - Wikipedia, the free ...: ; Canada Senate Scandal - Huffington Post: ; Senate Expense Scandal: Pictures, Videos, Breaking News: [19:04]
nubbins` ;;google canadian senate marijuana 2002 [19:04]
gribble Reports - Illegal Drugs (Special): ; Summary Report-final: ; The Special Senate Committee on Illegal Drugs: [19:04]
mircea_popescu lol [19:04]
nubbins` so on, so forth [19:04]
mircea_popescu so he's exactly in his proper element then. [19:04]
mircea_popescu maybe they start a new innovative coinplatfromscamderpage thing [19:04]
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nubbins` wagging his chin at a bunch of ineffectual appointed lords? [19:04]
mircea_popescu now that neobee blew up, ethereum is gone into the hole etc [19:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.12190364 BTC to 15`466 shares, 7254 satoshi per share [19:05]
nubbins` how long would one boil a chicken breast for, i wonder [19:05]
mircea_popescu ten minutes to as long you got. [19:06]
nubbins` ah, pulled it out at just the right moment [19:07]
nubbins` the idea is to have the middle slightly pink, so you can butterfly it and pan-fry [19:07]
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mircea_popescu then ten's maybe too much [19:07]
BingoBoingo !up princessnell [19:07]
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nubbins` around seven was right. ten for a full-cook would be right on the money [19:08]
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nubbins` what's antonpopnopnopnopn got to do with neobee again [19:08]
nubbins` i have a hard time recalling [19:09]
mircea_popescu bout the same he has to do with ethereum, or bitcoin generally. [19:09]
mircea_popescu he kept representing to the sort of idiots that follow him on reddit that it's a great thing. [19:09]
mircea_popescu and that he's done the research for them, and all is well, a lie easy for the derps in question to swallow seeing just how lazy and stupid they are. [19:10]
mircea_popescu not that the thing is peculiar to him in any sense, it's the stock in trade of any random derp aspiring to a position of political preminence without any particular skill or ability. like so : [19:11]
assbot These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [19:11]
mircea_popescu "The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE’s assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been “under-banked.” I must note, however, there [19:11]
mircea_popescu is substantial political risk with this investment. We, as investors, do not know how the Cypriot government will act toward a new financial institution like this. This is especially true given the political turmoil occuring in Ukraine and the Crimea region." [19:11]
nubbins` tangibility [19:12]
mircea_popescu ikr? he loves the X word he's heard. [19:12]
mircea_popescu anyway, authors being a coupla 19 yo cocklets fresh out of a stint as cook chefs, pretending to be finance this or that. [19:13]
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mircea_popescu but anyway, for today and as long as it lasts, antonoshithead is bitcoin's chief nigger. he's trying to parlay the nude use of words into as much free fried chicken as possible. [19:14]
mircea_popescu this apparently works to some degree, he's ahead a cigarette from xanthyos' ex, and was the senate hearing catered ? [19:15]
BingoBoingo !up devthedev [19:15]
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devthedev Thank you [19:15]
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mircea_popescu how goes devthedev ? [19:16]
devthedev Pretty good, how are you? [19:16]
mircea_popescu i am excited! [19:16]
devthedev I am too, I just saw qntra! [19:17]
mircea_popescu a yeah. you wanna submit a piece ? [19:17]
BingoBoingo devthedev: If you want to write for it submit a writing sample to cazalla [19:17]
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devthedev Will do [19:17]
mircea_popescu and we say ~we~re excited. imagine what it must be like @ cazalla hq. [19:18]
BingoBoingo Yeah cazalla's bunny ranch has to be popping [19:18]
devthedev Ha [19:19]
thickasthieves antonop transcribed himself [19:21]
assbot Canadian Senate Hearings: My Opening Remarks | Andreas M. Antonopoulos [19:21]
nubbins` heh [19:21]
mircea_popescu a hey. [19:22]
nubbins` the finished breast: [19:23]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [19:23]
thickasthieves [19:23]
assbot High Speed Video Neal Stephenson Sabering a Champagne Bottle from ChefSteps on Vimeo [19:23]
The20YearIRCloud Looks good nubbins` [19:24]
thickasthieves frm the random dept [19:24]
The20YearIRCloud i need to start on lunch soon [19:24]
nubbins` don't let me stop ya [19:24]
nubbins` any wild posters yet? [19:24]
nubbins` forum thread's got a few of em framed [19:24]
nubbins` bbl [19:24]
thestringpuller dr. foreskin!!!!! [19:24]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i went in there expecting chick not chicken. #scam [19:25]
nubbins` 8D [19:25]
thestringpuller don't chick's become chicken? [19:26]
mircea_popescu only if left unsupervised for too long [19:26]
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thestringpuller you would think an all girls university would be a great place to recruit chicks... [19:27]
thestringpuller something about dem places ain't natural [19:27]
mircea_popescu they still have those ? [19:28]
mircea_popescu i thought they became illegal in the us [19:28]
mircea_popescu but yes, they drive each other sex crazy. [19:28]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nope, they still exist. [19:28]
mircea_popescu so you can't have gentlemen's clubs but you can have all cunt university ?! [19:29]
thestringpuller i think there are all male universities still around...but I don't know who would want to attend [19:30]
thestringpuller and don't gentleman's club employ females? [19:30]
mircea_popescu not traditionally. [19:31]
thestringpuller i usually think of gentelman's club == high class strip club [19:31]
mircea_popescu but you bring a good point huh. women do want to be in a flock of women. men... not so much [19:31]
thickasthieves my holyoke is all female [19:31]
mircea_popescu no, it's not what it is lol. [19:31]
thickasthieves mt* [19:31]
thickasthieves lots of girl on girl encounters [19:32]
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thickasthieves i just realized the cftc vid is 48h delayed :/ [19:34]
thickasthieves not sure if i really can handle phoning in to listen [19:35]
RagnarDanneskjol I went to an all guys college for one year - there was so much ass around you wouldnt believe it. Hampden-Sydney college is surrounded by a number of all girls schools like sarah-lawrence and other schools attended by spoiled rich pure-bred top-shelf poon [19:35]
thickasthieves wait then below it says live webcast [19:35]
thickasthieves ok [19:35]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol a that's not so bad then [19:36]
RagnarDanneskjol it worked out well - until I got expelled for fraternity shennanigans [19:37]
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mircea_popescu better than marrying out [19:37]
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mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol so im confused. sarah-lawernce is afaik upstate ny. but apparently this Hampden-Sydney thing is in virginia ? [19:40]
thestringpuller circle is scam? [19:43]
assbot Never using Circle again : Bitcoin [19:43]
RagnarDanneskjol no - I got confused - there is sweet briar, mary-baldwin, and a few others. I spent some time @ sarah-lawrence later on. has been quite a few years [19:43]
mircea_popescu lol what is this, "if you remember the 60s you weren't there" ? [19:45]
RagnarDanneskjol this is about right: [19:49]
assbot Urban Dictionary: Hampden-Sydney [19:49]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [19:53]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 382.46, Best ask: 383.67, Bid-ask spread: 1.21000, Last trade: 383.66, 24 hour volume: 37509.54242863, 24 hour low: 341.13, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 366.228446462 [19:53]
thickasthieves ;;estimate [19:53]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 35021382515.8 based on data since last change | 33593487461.0 based on data for last three days [19:53]
thickasthieves ! [19:54]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [19:54]
gribble Current Blocks: 324568 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 7 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 13 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35021382515.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.03849 [19:54]
nubbins` ;o [19:54]
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TheNewDeal if it takes an hour to find each of these next blocks... [19:56]
mike_c ;;tslb [19:57]
mircea_popescu some blocks are harder than others! [19:57]
gribble Time since last block: 10 minutes and 16 seconds [19:57]
mircea_popescu "If reason and charity cannot promote the cause of truth and piety, I cannot see how it should ever flourish under the withering fires of wrath and strife". it's incredible just how much damage the 18th and 19th century heretic clubs did to the us. [19:57]
mircea_popescu presbyterian, srsly ?! gtfo. [19:58]
TheNewDeal love how the s&p500 is just propped up on stilts. [19:58]
mircea_popescu both truth and piety are exactly the creation, both necessary and unavoidalbe, of wrath and strife. just like equilibrium in mammals is the result of muscular activity, not of silent contemplation. [19:58]
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mircea_popescu TheNewDeal permanently elevated plateau yo. [19:59]
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ben_vulpes "sarah lawrence: where the girls become women and the boys do too" [20:11]
thestringpuller Hah [20:13]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes made a funny! [20:13]
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thestringpuller !up brianhoffman [20:20]
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kakobrekla what was the last assbot quit msg [20:20]
BingoBoingo * assbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:21]
kakobrekla ty [20:21]
kakobrekla i guess i need to temporarily switch this back on [20:21]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: beat me to it [20:21]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker [20:22]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 374.54, Best ask: 375.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.46000, Last trade: 375.0, 24 hour volume: 39347.55631242, 24 hour low: 341.13, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 366.929726172 [20:22]
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TheNewDeal is cafe con miel popular in buenos aires? [20:28]
kakobrekla [20:29]
kakobrekla ;;tslb [20:30]
gribble Time since last block: 21 minutes and 43 seconds [20:30]
kakobrekla can i get a 'B' ?! [20:31]
BingoBoingo B [20:31]
TheNewDeal like a block [20:31]
kakobrekla can i get a 'L' ?! [20:31]
BingoBoingo L [20:31]
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kakobrekla cool, now I only need to find OCK [20:31]
kakobrekla !up ceelo [20:31]
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kakobrekla sing it! [20:32]
thickasthieves maybe miners are colluding to stop people from selling [20:32]
ceelo auth ceelo [20:34]
ceelo how do u auth with gribble [20:34]
kakobrekla ;;nigga please [20:34]
gribble Error: "nigga" is not a valid command. [20:34]
kakobrekla ah dunno [20:34]
thestringpuller "that's our word. you have no business using it!" [20:34]
thestringpuller ;;google family guy n-word jim [20:34]
gribble N-Word Jim - Family Guy Wiki: ; Huck Griffin - Family Guy Wiki: ; "Family Guy" I Am Peter, Hear Me Roar (TV Episode 2000) - Quotes ...: [20:34]
ceelo ;;auth ceelo [20:34]
gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. [20:34]
kakobrekla ceelo [20:35]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] [20:35]
TheNewDeal ceelo green? [20:35]
ceelo thx [20:35]
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thestringpuller that would be dope if Ceelo came into the channel. [20:35]
thestringpuller sing us a song [20:35]
kakobrekla ceelo blue until he gets in the wot [20:35]
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TheNewDeal hahahaha [20:35]
kakobrekla !up ceelo [20:35]
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thickasthieves cftc wont be discussing bitcoin til 345 [20:37]
thickasthieves 100min [20:37]
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TheNewDeal is obama going to make an appearance and finally get paid for [20:39]
assbot BitBet - Obama will mention Bitcoin before 2015 :: 0.31 B (44%) on Yes, 0.4 B (56%) on No | closing in 1 month 3 weeks | weight: 23`231 (100`000 to 1) [20:39]
ceelo how do you get 'in the wot' [20:39]
TheNewDeal read that article [20:39]
ceelo found it [20:40]
ceelo cool [20:40]
TheNewDeal ;;tslb [20:41]
gribble Time since last block: 22 minutes and 14 seconds [20:42]
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thestringpuller %tslb [20:45]
atcbot Time Since Last ATC Block (#45986): 0 hour(s), 48 minutes [20:45]
BingoBoingo thickasthieves: is HIF Havelock itself? [20:51]
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assbot ceelo +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 [20:52]
ceelo lol [20:52]
kakobrekla yes well everyone started with 0 [20:53]
ceelo yeye [20:53]
thestringpuller that was quick ceelo [20:58]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: yea HIF is the Havelock itself [20:59]
kakobrekla [20:59]
assbot Introducing GIFV – Imgur Blog [20:59]
thickasthieves BingoBoingo> thickasthieves: is HIF Havelock itself? // can you clarify? [21:02]
BingoBoingo Does havelock trade on havelock as hif? [21:03]
thickasthieves yes [21:03]
thickasthieves it [21:03]
thickasthieves it's the same owner as CBTC [21:03]
thickasthieves sry [21:04]
thickasthieves not that [21:04]
thickasthieves same owner as CFIG [21:04]
thickasthieves who i suspect is same owner as 1BTCXE [21:04]
thickasthieves suspect/assume [21:05]
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ivok hello everyone :) to use my voice [21:11]
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kakobrekla hehe [21:11]
mircea_popescu !up ceelo [21:12]
-assbot- You voiced ceelo for another 30 minutes. [21:12]
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mircea_popescu lol [21:13]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: as earnings / div come from resolved, not confirmed. << good point ok [21:17]
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kakobrekla 'good point ok' is my middle name. [21:18]
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TheNewDeal .98% , just wow [21:21]
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BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [21:25]
gribble Current Blocks: 324578 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 2013 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 13 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1.13932137867e+11 | Estimated Percent Change: 225.49731 [21:25]
mike_c cracked 250 exahash. this is getting out of hand. [21:27]
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TheNewDeal phash? [21:27]
mike_c er, not exa [21:27]
BingoBoingo ;;nethash [21:27]
gribble 241177197.882 [21:27]
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TheNewDeal i remember there was ~280 a few weeks ago? [21:28]
TheNewDeal may be mistaken [21:28]
mike_c on short term estimates, yeah. difficulty just cracked 250 phash tho [21:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 0.59699953 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 11 satoshi per share [21:28]
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mircea_popescu .deed [21:29]
mircea_popescu !up deedbot [21:29]
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mircea_popescu .deed [21:29]
deedBot deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted. [21:29]
deedBot Found 1 bogus deed in [21:29]
mircea_popescu oh. sheit. [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 56.42232407 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 11 satoshi per share [21:31]
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-NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify . [21:33]
* You are now known as mircea_popescu [21:33]
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* You are now known as mpoe [21:39]
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mpoe ;;eregister mpoe EE2BDEF602DD2D91 [21:41]
gribble Request successful for user mpoe, hostmask mpoe!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from [21:41]
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TheNewDeal !up ceelo [21:43]
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penguirker New blog post: [21:44]
TheNewDeal next change is going to be giant [21:44]
TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats [21:44]
gribble Current Blocks: 324579 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 2012 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 3 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 70004998058.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 100.0001 [21:44]
mpoe ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e84e5e818cd8d59b7a141cdf633cc6656f3ef0943fca7dc9139d4e2a [21:45]
gribble Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user mpoe with key EE2BDEF602DD2D91 [21:45]
* You are now known as mircea_popescu [21:45]
mircea_popescu ;;ident [21:45]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mpoe', with GPG key id EE2BDEF602DD2D91, key fingerprint 2A4A728F75668B50162D4F13EE2BDEF602DD2D91, and bitcoin address None [21:45]
mircea_popescu ;;ident [21:47]
gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None [21:47]
mircea_popescu .deed [21:47]
deedBot deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted. [21:47]
deedBot Found 1 bogus deed in [21:47]
mircea_popescu ;;rate mpoe 1 Current MPEx account for #bitcoin-assets deed purposes [21:47]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mpoe has been recorded. [21:47]
mircea_popescu .deed [21:47]
deedBot deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted. [21:47]
deedBot Found 1 bogus deed in [21:47]
mircea_popescu ah lag mkay. [21:47]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: i just got used to being poor again what is this <<< ikr? me too! [21:49]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves: i could get more into it, but mostly people dont give a shit << actually i think most serious animalagans eat freeranged. [21:50]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves: usg is just alarmed hacker haz more dataz than them, so jelly <<< AAAANNDD they don't even quote trilema. not like it's been a secret over here, for the past half year or so. [21:52]
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mircea_popescu .deed [21:52]
deedBot deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted. [21:52]
deedBot Found 1 bogus deed in [21:52]
mircea_popescu hm. [21:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15915 @ 0.00074175 = 11.805 BTC [-] {2} [21:53]
BingoBoingo [21:53]
assbot Nobel prize winner Patrick Modiano’s Wikipedia page changed to add note to “the reporter now copying from Wikipedia” (PHOTO). [21:53]
thickasthieves this Ulbricht response update is the first juicy thing I saw on qntra first, grats! [21:53]
TomServo ^ [21:53]
BingoBoingo thickasthieves: Yw [21:53]
* thickasthieves reads left side of monitor. [21:54]
BingoBoingo lol [21:54]
devthedev Lol [21:55]
devthedev Nicely written Bingo [21:55]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: Bam, news'd it up. <<< gotta love this guy [21:55]
mike_c hehe, i scooped the lawyers yesterday: "It apparently confuses php with MySQL" [21:56]
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thickasthieves bingo your text is jacked [21:56]
thickasthieves incomplete sentences and such [21:56]
thickasthieves jumping or something [21:57]
mircea_popescu okies, logs done, discussions had, havoc caused, work reviewed (btw the eulora art is looking wunderbar) and so i guess ima bbl. [21:57]
mike_c thickasthieves: the pdf is no better [21:58]
thickasthieves ah shit [21:59]
thickasthieves well some of it is pretty good [21:59]
BingoBoingo thickasthieves: The textblock is as the pdf presented it. It is a legal format problem. [21:59]
thickasthieves this is def getting interesting [21:59]
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thickasthieves i'd think it would be a few more pages though [22:00]
thickasthieves i mean if youre already on the horse, ride it high [22:01]
BingoBoingo thickasthieves: It's a defense filing. The point is to be clear. A prosecution filing though has the other perogative, to bury with text that might have meaning. [22:01]
thickasthieves word [22:02]
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