Forum logs for 09 Jan 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00477613 = 10.0299 BTC [+] [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.0047582 = 6.1857 BTC [-] [00:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.48 = 3.84 BTC [-] [00:04]
smickles 0_o [00:05]
smickles nice to see more things in the ass [00:06]
dub wat [00:06]
smickles 22:04 <@assbot> [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.48 = 3.84 BTC [-] [00:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 296 @ 0.0047582 = 1.4084 BTC [-] [00:13]
Anduck mircea_popescu: u from wut country? [00:14]
mircea_popescu i from my country which is romania [00:14]
Anduck i'm just telling irl friend about you and MPEX and how much one can make btc in a month by owning such exchange [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16091948 BTC [-] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.0647318 BTC [-] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-] [00:15]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.09130116 BTC [-] [00:15]
mircea_popescu lol [00:15]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-] [00:15]
mircea_popescu not "one" tho. [00:15]
Anduck well [00:15]
Anduck don't you own like 800k of S.MPOE? [00:15]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.12379657 BTC [-] [00:15]
Anduck or 900k [00:15]
mircea_popescu but i'm not "one", i'm me. [00:16]
mircea_popescu others have tried and it worked a little worse. [00:16]
Anduck yes yes, [00:16]
Anduck me is me , you is you [00:16]
Namworld Mircea is not alone working on MPEx... [00:16]
Anduck Namworld: who coded mpe? [00:16]
Anduck x [00:16]
Anduck * [00:16]
Namworld He got a small team of unkown size [00:16]
Anduck aight [00:16]
mircea_popescu nobody is really ever alone. [00:16]
mircea_popescu Anduck tis in the faq. [00:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00463954 = 8.3512 BTC [-] [00:16]
mircea_popescu one of these days you should splurge 20 bitcoins' worth of reading and read the faq lol [00:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4348 @ 0.00459059 = 19.9599 BTC [-] [00:16]
Anduck it might cause brain damage, though [00:17]
mircea_popescu maybe it cauyses brain fixage, how do you know. [00:18]
Anduck never know... [00:18]
Anduck how many mpex-like exchanges there is? [00:19]
Anduck is mpex just another brick in the wall? [00:19]
mircea_popescu there's about half a dozen, but mpex has 9x% of the volume [00:19]
Anduck cool [00:19]
mircea_popescu sorta mtgox like situation [00:19]
Anduck yup [00:19]
Anduck which was bigger at the end of glbse, mpex or glbse? [00:20]
Namworld MPEx [00:20]
Anduck (btw, nobody was enough as to notice my PF-references??) [00:20]
Anduck is it S.DICE that makes it bigger, only? [00:20]
mircea_popescu what's pf ? [00:21]
Anduck pink floyd [00:21]
mircea_popescu Anduck s.mpoe is actually larger. [00:21]
Anduck mircea_popescu: s.mpoe wouldnt be without S.DICE... [00:21]
Anduck duh [00:21]
smickles mircea_popescu: how about those mpex futures [00:21]
Anduck there wouldnt be S.MPOE if there was no S.DICE, right, mircea_popescu? [00:21]
mircea_popescu s.mpoe was larger when s.dice ipoed, too [00:21]
smickles not all that popular, it seems [00:21]
mircea_popescu smickles dead huh. [00:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16089199 BTC [-] [00:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.06470431 BTC [-] [00:22]
mircea_popescu actually mpex trade record was sometime in september, just about when glbse was crashing [00:22]
smickles mircea_popescu: a problem with them is that btc are expected to rise, so buying those futures is like cashing out of btc [00:22]
mircea_popescu it did something under 200k in trade then [00:22]
mircea_popescu smickles i know, i know. [00:23]
mircea_popescu what's one to do. [00:23]
smickles if the options were cheaper, it might work [00:23]
smickles as if you could pull that off tho [00:23]
mircea_popescu the real macro problem here is that because btc and fiat are so badly decoupled [00:23]
mircea_popescu any non-btc/fiat signal is drowned [00:24]
mircea_popescu i guess in a backwards way the futures uptake is a measure of btc/fiat decouplement. [00:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00461461 = 2.9995 BTC [+] [00:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00459059 = 1.6067 BTC [-] [00:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00468211 = 10.7689 BTC [+] [00:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1986 @ 0.00459059 = 9.1169 BTC [-] [00:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.0006446 = 6.2849 BTC [-] [00:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 156750 @ 0.00066 = 103.455 BTC [+] [00:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1689 @ 0.00449001 = 7.5836 BTC [-] [00:57]
kakobrekla "I will tell you a secret: Dealmaking [00:59]
kakobrekla beats working. Dealmaking is exciting and fun, and working is [00:59]
kakobrekla grubby. Running anything is primarily an enormous amount of [00:59]
kakobrekla grubby detail work . . . dealmaking is romantic, sexy. That's [00:59]
kakobrekla why you have deals that make no sense." [00:59]
kakobrekla hehe [00:59]
jurov reminds me of http://xkcd.com/1060/ [01:00]
mod6 heheh [01:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3442 @ 0.00449001 = 15.4546 BTC [-] [01:02]
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jurov omg.. when i finally stop being addicted to trash like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLBJ1geMNJc [01:05]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla that's why you have a bunch of sitcom people doing "entrepreneurship" rutines these days. [01:06]
mircea_popescu that misrepresentation. [01:06]
mod6 jurov: pass me a glo stick [01:06]
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jurov *----* [01:07]
mod6 hahahah [01:07]
mircea_popescu http://xkcd.com/150/ [01:08]
mod6 http://xkcd.com/153/ [01:10]
kakobrekla btw, that quote is from Buffets shareholder letter [01:10]
mircea_popescu many years ago iirc [01:12]
kakobrekla 95 [01:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00450904 = 8.5672 BTC [+] [01:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 314 @ 0.0045325 = 1.4232 BTC [+] [01:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1508 @ 0.00457957 = 6.906 BTC [+] [01:14]
Bugpowder !ticker s.dice [01:18]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00449 / 0.00469837 / 0.0047888 (544375 shares, 2,557.68 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0033951 / 0.0048 (13880020 shares, 47,124.18 BTC) [01:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 239 @ 0.00468211 = 1.119 BTC [+] [01:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1361 @ 0.00472449 = 6.43 BTC [+] [01:18]
Bugpowder http://www.youtube.com/embed/5ZUPniBo5UQ [01:19]
Bugpowder New BFL chassis [01:19]
Bugpowder The BIGGEST NEWS at BFL @ CES is.... Android mining software [01:20]
mircea_popescu uh [01:20]
mircea_popescu did they get hot chicks at least ? [01:21]
Bugpowder no [01:21]
Anduck realy? [01:22]
mircea_popescu wtf is the point [01:22]
Bugpowder Looks like their mini rig SC demo is gettin 980MH/s [01:24]
mircea_popescu Bitcoin Flakes Laboratories consist of a solitary man with a messy apartment which may or may not contain a chicken. [01:25]
mircea_popescu no chicks. [01:25]
Bugpowder oh... its an FPGA single [01:26]
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kakobrekla lol wtf are they gonna resell rooted nexuses [01:27]
mircea_popescu i would guess the battery cost would make phone mining impossible [01:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.48 = 24 BTC [-] [01:29]
Anduck i do not have idea [01:30]
jurov they can mine while charging [01:30]
Anduck why they dont use some cheap chinese tabs... [01:30]
Anduck ainol novo 7's [01:30]
jurov or decommissioned 386's [01:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3907 @ 0.00458881 = 17.9285 BTC [-] [01:30]
Anduck they could even resell them with permission as a part of their own product [01:30]
error3477 wtf... [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.48 = 24 BTC [-] [01:33]
mircea_popescu ;;google error3477 [01:33]
error3477 mistake ? [01:33]
gribble Commander Books List - kellysComics: ; PRB: Error "The Jet VBA File...Failed to Initialize When Called": ; 3477 East Sheffield Gilbert AZ, abetterrealty.net - YouTube: [01:33]
mircea_popescu error3477 it's a passthrough [01:34]
jurov error3477 that's their passthrough 1000 S.DICE:1 [01:34]
error3477 ook :) [01:34]
mircea_popescu wait [01:35]
mircea_popescu it's trading 10% of mpex price ?! [01:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2975 @ 0.00472449 = 14.0554 BTC [+] [01:35]
mircea_popescu omg buy ? [01:35]
jurov no sry, it's 100:1 [01:35]
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jurov when assbot will report sdice pt's from btct&bitfunder...now that will be hilarious [01:38]
jurov S.DICE to rule them all, S.DICE to find them, S.DICE to bring them all and in the darkness bind them [01:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00466745 = 13.5356 BTC [-] [01:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 64 @ 0.00472449 = 0.3024 BTC [+] [01:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4936 @ 0.00478699 = 23.6286 BTC [+] [01:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00466745 = 5.6009 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 349 @ 0.00466042 = 1.6265 BTC [-] [01:46]
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dub wats with the hashrate variance on that BFL 'roid [01:55]
kakobrekla 72TH mine is canceled [01:56]
dub high ambient at CES making it throttle [01:56]
kakobrekla hehe [01:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00466042 = 11.185 BTC [-] [01:56]
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JWU42 dub: huh? [01:57]
JWU42 they have a working prototype at CES? [01:58]
dub no [01:58]
dub they have an android bfgminer skin [01:58]
JWU42 ahh [01:58]
dub [18:19] http://www.youtube.com/embed/5ZUPniBo5UQ [01:58]
dub and a rig chassis with a nexus 7 on the front [01:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [-] [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00478696 = 4.3083 BTC [+] [02:12]
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JWU42 HAVELOCK ? [02:18]
gigavps HAVEGUN? [02:18]
gigavps this bASIC drama is a bit overwhelming [02:18]
Anduck what drama? [02:18]
JWU42 quite [02:18]
Anduck the march shipping [02:18]
Anduck ? [02:18]
JWU42 just starting idling in there [02:18]
Anduck okay i ask this again: who [02:18]
Anduck is [02:18]
Anduck firsy? [02:19]
Anduck *t [02:19]
Anduck who's first shipping asics out or mining with them? [02:19]
gigavps lol what drama [02:19]
gigavps nobody yet [02:19]
gigavps no asics [02:19]
Anduck but who will be [02:19]
Anduck ? [02:19]
gigavps asics are never coming [02:19]
gigavps BFL hopefully [02:19]
Anduck ASICs are never coming..? [02:19]
* gigavps hugs his mini rigs [02:20]
Anduck hopefully.. but who realistically? [02:20]
gigavps no clue [02:20]
Anduck i got no rigs ordered from anywhere [02:20]
Anduck except i got a few asicminer shares [02:20]
gigavps avalon is now saying they don't know how much is going to ship before cny [02:20]
Anduck wo [02:20]
Anduck they delaying too? [02:20]
gigavps asicminer still has a month to get theirs up [02:20]
Anduck mm [02:21]
gigavps basic is under the bus with all of their customers upset [02:21]
Anduck yup [02:21]
gigavps BFL is silent [02:21]
Anduck but u gotta admit that the notification was shiit [02:21]
mircea_popescu yah asicminer has the best model for not delivering./ [02:21]
Anduck why? [02:21]
Anduck i think asicminer 'll be first [02:21]
Anduck atleast theyve gave pics of some chips [02:21]
Anduck (might be asic, might be not) [02:22]
mircea_popescu that's besides rthe point. [02:22]
mircea_popescu if nobody delivers chips they're in the best position [02:22]
mircea_popescu cause at least they don't have a bunch of customers pissy [02:23]
mircea_popescu they have a bunch of "shareholders" [02:23]
dub somebody in #bitcoin a few hours ago said they got an email from BFL yesterday quoting a march ship [02:26]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu just like you have an "exchange" with "shareholders" [02:26]
mircea_popescu not at all. [02:27]
thestringpuller i was being sarcastic [02:27]
thestringpuller lol [02:27]
thestringpuller long day [02:27]
mircea_popescu teh ppl with asicminer shares get pissed off what are they gonna do ? sell on forum ? [02:27]
thestringpuller file mpex suit [02:28]
mircea_popescu lol right [02:28]
mircea_popescu does the guy even have a signature ? [02:28]
thestringpuller rota court is in session [02:28]
mircea_popescu o hey, lots of nfl action on bitbet. whodda thunk it. [02:28]
dub prolly not, he named himself after his fav food [02:29]
Namworld hey gigavps, how long till your lawyer answers? [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 354 @ 0.00473087 = 1.6747 BTC [-] [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2496 @ 0.00476298 = 11.8884 BTC [+] [02:29]
Namworld He's pretty silent. [02:29]
thestringpuller Bet: Falcons makes it to the super bowl [02:29]
dub I havent looked and don't have keys handy, is coinbr letting us place bitbet orders for the IPO? [02:31]
thestringpuller was there a UFO sighting? [02:31]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [02:31]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 8 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: as if you could pull that off tho [02:31]
jurov dub, yes [02:32]
dub jurov: cool, thanks [02:32]
mircea_popescu looks like it's gonna sell out that. [02:32]
jurov dub, if you want to fund, hurry. [02:33]
thestringpuller at what price [02:33]
jurov i'll go to sleep, then before i wake up, mircea will go to sleep, etc. [02:33]
dub jurov: still 2 days away from IPO no? [02:33]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what are IPO prices for S.BitBet [02:34]
jurov yeash, we'll manage to get the funds in place till that [02:34]
thestringpuller !ticker S.BVPS [02:34]
assbot [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.00200003 / 0.0034158 / 0.0067 (14758 shares, 50.41 BTC) [02:34]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller a little more complex system, it's in teh contract. [02:35]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/2/ lmao @ discussion. [02:35]
mircea_popescu tru anonimity! [02:35]
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thestringpuller Boromir [02:36]
thestringpuller One does not simply crash into MPEx [02:36]
dub heh [02:36]
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dub I take it the third comment is suggesting if MPOE is goes so does btc [02:37]
dub s/is// [02:37]
thestringpuller cat comments | sed [02:37]
mircea_popescu dub i like the odds tho. it's like... 300:1 but "we win nothing" [02:37]
mircea_popescu dawg... [02:37]
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dub dude that captcha is HARD [02:39]
mircea_popescu mhm. [02:39]
dub roman numerals, what is this, junior school [02:39]
mircea_popescu yes. [02:40]
mircea_popescu literally. [02:40]
thestringpuller mr. popescu [02:41]
thestringpuller option [02:41]
thestringpuller emporium [02:41]
thestringpuller I get it [02:41]
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thestringpuller like da movie [02:41]
mircea_popescu what movie ? [02:42]
Anduck mircea_popescu [02:43]
Anduck u all day at comp? [02:43]
mircea_popescu depends. [02:44]
Anduck 2nd: [02:44]
Anduck why is there no clear odds? [02:44]
Anduck at bitbetus [02:45]
mircea_popescu "clear odds" means what ? [02:45]
Anduck like.. [02:46]
Anduck 1.54 / 1.34 [02:46]
Anduck u win ur bet 1.54 times [02:46]
Anduck on yes [02:46]
Anduck and 1.34 on no [02:46]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/27/ [02:47]
mircea_popescu 1.01 : 20.08 [02:47]
thestringpuller mr. magoos wonderful emporium or something [02:47]
mircea_popescu seems pretty clear [02:47]
Anduck well [02:47]
Anduck it doesnt say clearly how much you win if you bet x amount [02:47]
Anduck i mean.. [02:47]
Anduck there's no multiplier!!! [02:47]
mircea_popescu it's mutual betting. [02:48]
Anduck should state like Yes: 1.35, No: 1.679whatevr [02:48]
mircea_popescu that's line betting. [02:48]
Anduck ok [02:48]
mircea_popescu i can't believe people's reaction is "we should be stolen from". [02:48]
mircea_popescu dude. the absence of a bookie means you're not being fucked in the ass. [02:48]
dub I demand an assfucking! [02:53]
mircea_popescu jus for you http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135762166366.jpg [02:55]
dub im sure thats sfw [02:55]
dub let me click right on that [02:55]
mircea_popescu its not sfw. [02:55]
dub nowai [02:56]
mircea_popescu honest. [02:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 754 @ 0.00476298 = 3.5913 BTC [+] [02:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 736 @ 0.00478696 = 3.5232 BTC [+] [02:57]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile back at glbse headquarters http://pjmedia.com/blog/did-obama-and-holder-scuttle-terror-finance-prosecutions/ [03:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00467325 = 5.1406 BTC [-] [03:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 222 @ 0.00467325 = 1.0375 BTC [-] [03:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00065877 = 1.581 BTC [-] [03:27]
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dub rails gets railed http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/extremely-crtical-ruby-on-rails-bug-threatens-more-than-200000-sites/ [03:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00478696 = 7.1804 BTC [+] [03:33]
thestringpuller lo [03:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00478247 = 1.913 BTC [-] [03:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1051 @ 0.00471275 = 4.9531 BTC [-] [03:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 383 @ 0.00467325 = 1.7899 BTC [-] [03:45]
mircea_popescu heh. [03:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 376 @ 0.00467325 = 1.7571 BTC [-] [03:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1043 @ 0.00466765 = 4.8684 BTC [-] [03:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 31 @ 0.00466042 = 0.1445 BTC [-] [03:54]
mircea_popescu mpex safety announcement : mpex uses no ruby on rails or anything else at all. [03:58]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun. [03:58]
dub vim: the one true CMS [03:59]
mircea_popescu and everything else. [03:59]
mircea_popescu tho i think half of it is written in nano [03:59]
dub eww [03:59]
mircea_popescu update their systems as soon as possible to versions 3.2.11, 3.1.10, 3.0.19, or 2.3.15 [04:00]
mircea_popescu who the fuck is maintainijng that package lmao [04:00]
mircea_popescu they have three stable 3's ? [04:01]
dub fuck this si some mind numbing shit [04:01]
dub building network records [04:02]
dub fuck. ing. sucks. [04:02]
mircea_popescu lol [04:05]
thestringpuller ;;seen Ukto [04:06]
gribble Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: I was actually just thinking about contacting you [04:06]
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smickles heh, thestringpuller has been replaced by ;;seen-bot [04:10]
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thestringpuller smickles: sup [04:23]
kakobrekla to whoever might be interested, you can now search bitbet by bitcoin address, and mix that with keywords etc [04:24]
Ukto thestringpuller: havent had a chance to test [04:27]
Ukto my computer tried to die [04:27]
Ukto besides [04:27]
Ukto it will take me a few days to test [04:27]
Ukto i think it will take at least 10hrs of play to get to disc2 [04:28]
smickles Ukto: the original baldur's gate? [04:30]
smickles there were 5 or 6 disks on that game [04:31]
smickles ;;ticker [04:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.80302, Best ask: 13.82999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02697, Last trade: 13.83000, 24 hour volume: 39611.17893164, 24 hour low: 13.55011, 24 hour high: 13.87998, 24 hour vwap: 13.73806 [04:32]
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mircea_popescu baldur gate was cool [04:35]
smickles agreed, I find myself going back to it from time to time [04:36]
Ukto smickles: ff7 [04:36]
Ukto hadntl played bg in a long time [04:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1236 @ 0.00466572 = 5.7668 BTC [+] [04:55]
Namworld baldur's gate is nice. So is FF7 [04:56]
Namworld But I prefer FF6 [04:57]
mircea_popescu Not really. They're not at the LVCC, but at the Sands Convention Centre. That's like half an hour away from the "real" CES. [04:58]
mircea_popescu ouch. [04:58]
dub meanwhile in libertarianism http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/01/the-deport-piers-morgan-creator-blows-up-on-cnn-153577.html?ml=po_r [05:01]
mircea_popescu "What makes it possible to buy drugs with Tide is not because Tide is useful as a detergent. It’s because drug dealers and users have agreed that it is currency." [05:09]
mircea_popescu forbes, now with extra esl. [05:09]
mircea_popescu da fuck. [05:09]
mircea_popescu why are people like this allowed to write ? [05:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1079 @ 0.0046899 = 5.0604 BTC [+] [05:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 588 @ 0.00469194 = 2.7589 BTC [+] [05:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 380 @ 0.00469194 = 1.7829 BTC [+] [05:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00469194 = 1.8768 BTC [+] [05:22]
kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur [05:24]
gribble 1 BTC = 13.75002 U.S. dollars = 10.5227061 Euros [05:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00466572 = 3.7326 BTC [-] [05:25]
kakobrekla lol that alex guy [05:32]
kakobrekla a monkey is smarter than that. [05:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00468285 = 5.3853 BTC [+] [05:35]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yeah, that entire article is full of shit [05:41]
Diablo-D3 I read it earlier [05:41]
Diablo-D3 Tide _is_ useful as a detergent [05:41]
Diablo-D3 its the only one left on the market that they havent raped the forumula to [05:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 264 @ 0.00466572 = 1.2318 BTC [-] [05:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 308 @ 0.00466042 = 1.4354 BTC [-] [05:42]
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mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/forbes-now-with-a-little-extra-esl-and-a-whole-lot-of-extra-stupid/ [05:47]
mircea_popescu an' i hope he chokes on it. [05:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00065877 = 3.4915 BTC [-] [05:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 563 @ 0.00466042 = 2.6238 BTC [-] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 237 @ 0.00465713 = 1.1037 BTC [-] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00468285 = 4.2146 BTC [+] [05:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00466274 = 3.0308 BTC [-] [06:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00466274 = 3.7302 BTC [-] [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00465822 = 1.6304 BTC [-] [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00465713 = 2.0957 BTC [-] [06:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00468285 = 0.2341 BTC [+] [06:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00468405 = 2.1078 BTC [+] [06:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 282 @ 0.00469194 = 1.3231 BTC [+] [06:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1620 @ 0.00471475 = 7.6379 BTC [+] [06:28]
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mircea_popescu However, recent evidence suggests that Duqu may have been written in Object Oriented C (OO C) and compiled in Microsoft Visual Studio 2008. [06:47]
mircea_popescu ahahaha omg that'd be the end all. [06:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1277 @ 0.00465713 = 5.9472 BTC [-] [06:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 236 @ 0.00465713 = 1.0991 BTC [-] [06:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1070 @ 0.0046549 = 4.9807 BTC [-] [06:52]
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Namworld argh I'm tired [06:55]
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Namworld Once again no credit [06:56]
Namworld I have to learn to stop clicking on polimedia links. [06:56]
Namworld I don't know why but I can never read anything. [06:56]
mircea_popescu http://forums.radioreference.com/community-announcements-news/257379-ask-rr-would-you-pay-subscription-bitcoins.html#post1889295 [06:56]
mircea_popescu this is great. [06:56]
mircea_popescu "If there were more robust security, in the bit coin infrastructure. I'd consider it, but as its setup now, not very likely. " [06:58]
mircea_popescu "Bitcoins, in theory, could become the next universal currency. However, they are a pain to obtain (if you're not buying them outright) and the security model could use some work." [06:59]
mircea_popescu i guess i'd better buy vitriol. [06:59]
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Namworld "the security model" could use some work. [07:01]
Namworld what the fuck? [07:02]
JohnGalt2 yeah those morons want centralized shit and to reverse transactions. Because that's what they used to and they gave all their responsibilities to nanny governments [07:02]
mircea_popescu its a very funny read, to me. [07:02]
mircea_popescu this very entrenched western notion that everyone's entitled to an opinion. [07:03]
mircea_popescu best thing for comedy. [07:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 330 @ 0.00471475 = 1.5559 BTC [+] [07:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 682 @ 0.00472303 = 3.2211 BTC [+] [07:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 188 @ 0.00473903 = 0.8909 BTC [+] [07:05]
Namworld Someone should post something. [07:08]
kakobrekla post [07:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1312 @ 0.00473903 = 6.2176 BTC [+] [07:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00474657 = 3.0853 BTC [+] [07:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 38 @ 0.00474845 = 0.1804 BTC [+] [07:09]
Namworld Ok [07:09]
kakobrekla im gonna open a chocholate beer i think [07:09]
Namworld Hey... I want one. [07:10]
kakobrekla http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8010/7467168670_727523ac12_z.jpg [07:11]
kakobrekla woah [07:16]
kakobrekla this aint bad at all. [07:16]
kakobrekla http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/controversial-surgery-for-addiction-burns-away-brains-pleasure-center/ [07:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4354 @ 0.00063645 = 2.7711 BTC [-] [07:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1681 @ 0.0006363 = 1.0696 BTC [-] [07:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00471394 = 6.1281 BTC [-] [07:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00468492 = 3.2794 BTC [-] [07:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00468424 = 5.6211 BTC [-] [07:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.0046549 = 10.7063 BTC [-] [07:28]
Namworld Ok, well maybe we need to get some "stupidized" bitcoin explanation [07:33]
Namworld A bitcoin for dummies kind of thing... [07:33]
kakobrekla why [07:33]
mircea_popescu yes. why ? [07:34]
Namworld Well because it needs to be super short for the short attention span of people inquiring about Bitcoins. [07:35]
Namworld Well although I guess we already have that. [07:35]
mircea_popescu you don't get it. [07:35]
mircea_popescu why do we want stupid people ? [07:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 710 @ 0.00474845 = 3.3714 BTC [+] [07:35]
Graet we will get them whether they want opr not [07:36]
JohnGalt2 because we want the stupid people money [07:36]
Graet most of them dont really understand how fiat or credit cards actually "work" but use them daily, but feel they need to know every intracacy of bitcoin before using it [07:36]
Graet shrug [07:37]
Namworld We don't want them, we want the business. Why is apple making so much money? For selling easy to use and elegant products. And they milk their customer base as much as possible. [07:37]
mircea_popescu Graet yes, we will get them either way. they're worthless. why bother ? [07:37]
Namworld They don't need to even know that much about Bitcoin. [07:37]
mircea_popescu apple is possibly the single worst comparison to btc [07:37]
Graet thats what i said Namworld ;) [07:38]
mircea_popescu we are exactly diametrically opposed in every single aspect [07:38]
mircea_popescu simple example : satoshi is dead, btc benefits from it. jobs is dead, apple is doomed. [07:38]
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kakobrekla satoshi is not dead [07:39]
JohnGalt2 if btc benefits from a dead satoshi, then let's kill him? [07:39]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla prove it ? [07:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00474564 = 4.7456 BTC [-] [07:40]
Namworld Probably not that great a comparison. But they don't need to know that much about it. If they didn't have such misconception of Bitcoins, they wouldn't oppose using it and could use a third party processor. Yes, there's still the payment processor, but there's less fees and it doesn't support the archaic closed credit card/banking system. [07:40]
kakobrekla wanna bet [07:40]
mircea_popescu JohnGalt2 im just making the point that in the sense jobs is dead (ie, no longer driving apple) so is satoshi [07:40]
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mircea_popescu Namworld their misconceptions are for the greater good. [07:40]
mircea_popescu they don't belong mucking up bitcoin [07:40]
mircea_popescu and no, we don't want their business, either. [07:41]
mircea_popescu their business is very expensive. rape-them-in-the-ass corps like banks etc are very good at keeping their idiocy expensiveness low while turning a buck [07:41]
Namworld What impact does it make that they'd use Bitcoins? [07:41]
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mircea_popescu but the effort and expertise involved in doing this are much more than what's needed to make asics [07:41]
JohnGalt2 Namworld: A lot of the stupid people don't want to have fancy internet money without having a possibility to reverse transactions [07:42]
Namworld Ah, that. [07:42]
JohnGalt2 They're not used it to it because of their nanny governments [07:42]
mircea_popescu they're expensive, it's simple. [07:43]
mircea_popescu it costs to supply their needs more than they are capable of paying. [07:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 902 @ 0.00474845 = 4.2831 BTC [+] [07:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00475265 = 3.3269 BTC [+] [07:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00475518 = 2.3776 BTC [+] [07:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2274 @ 0.00477726 = 10.8635 BTC [+] [07:43]
mircea_popescu why do you think banks wouldn't take most poor people's accounts if they weren't legally forced to ? [07:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 35624 @ 0.00478695 = 170.5303 BTC [+] [07:43]
Namworld I don't see that argument as valid. As the supplier, you set the price and service provided for it. [07:44]
mircea_popescu ... [07:44]
JohnGalt2 I don't think every user needs to understand how bitcoin works entirely. I don't, I'm not interested in the IT stuff, I'm interested in the moneyz stuf [07:44]
Bugpowder !ticker s.dice [07:44]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00449 / 0.004709 / 0.004787 (583698 shares, 2,748.64 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00340446 / 0.0048 (13963747 shares, 47,539.11 BTC) [07:44]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [07:44]
Namworld That you take bitcoins or not, your local government could force you to provide services regardless. [07:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.70001, Best ask: 13.72855, Bid-ask spread: 0.02854, Last trade: 13.70000, 24 hour volume: 32942.91842052, 24 hour low: 13.61100, 24 hour high: 13.87998, 24 hour vwap: 13.76016 [07:44]
mircea_popescu what local government ? [07:45]
mircea_popescu there's no government that's local to the internet. [07:45]
kakobrekla most of people driving cars dont know how internal combustion works. [07:45]
kakobrekla its same with anything thats more than a stick and a stone and many people use [07:45]
Namworld I'm not talking about internet only. Just various other services. [07:46]
JohnGalt2 exactly [07:46]
mircea_popescu i guess this discussion became to vague to continue/ [07:46]
mircea_popescu point remains. we don't want the average joe and his 3-9 dollar transaction. [07:47]
mircea_popescu nobody does eitgher, but that's besides the point. we don't,. [07:47]
Namworld What if I sell 3-9 dollars thing? [07:47]
kakobrekla i dont care if joe comes or not, i just know he doenst have to know how it works to use it [07:47]
mircea_popescu Namworld then bitcoin isn't for you. [07:47]
JohnGalt2 Yes, we do want Joe with his 3-9 dollarz. Bitcoin needs growth, maybe he'll buy more bitcoins after that [07:48]
Namworld Why? [07:48]
mircea_popescu because, Namworld, the costs of administering this sort of business exceed your profits from doing it. [07:48]
mircea_popescu in simple terms : you can't afford btc. [07:48]
kakobrekla depends [07:49]
kakobrekla in RL the biggest cost of small bills are the billing itself [07:49]
mircea_popescu it doesn't really depend. we have centuries of accumulated experience in trade. by now things are pretty well known [07:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00478695 = 1.9148 BTC [+] [07:49]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla yes, that is true. [07:49]
Namworld But it does not exceed the costs... otherwise capitalism wouldn't work because pretty much nothing brings any profit? [07:50]
Bugpowder Details 2013-01-09 01:51:31 lessthan 16000 de2012c9 3148068f 1HbHbFK CONFIRMED 435.00000000 LOSE 2.17450000 41970 Details 2013-01-09 01:50:43 lessthan 16000 d463f567 faa9a2d8 19LQ1zn CONFIRMED 435.00000000 LOSE 2.17450000 53146 Details 2013-01-09 01:49:33 lessthan 16000 f3d916d3 c4273fff 1Bw9MTr CONFIRMED 435.00000000 LOSE 2.17450000 52002 Details 2013-01-09 01:48:04 lessthan 16000 881eda89 5a2d111b 1Fh2Rjd CONFIRMED 327.680 [07:50]
Bugpowder sory [07:50]
mircea_popescu that's an unwarranted generalisation. [07:50]
Namworld Well than all consumerism in america is unprofitable if the 3-9 dollar transaction exceeds profits. [07:51]
Namworld That bottle of Coke that costs 10 cent to make is not profitable to sell under 1$ and Coke doesn't earn any revenue. [07:52]
mircea_popescu no. [07:52]
mircea_popescu the 3-9 transactions work on an economy of scale model [07:52]
mircea_popescu if you aggregate one billion of them you can squeeze a little profit [07:52]
mircea_popescu but you lack all the many tools that the banks use to turn this green. [07:52]
Namworld and Bitcoin is designed to further help the profit margin. The bitcoin is designed to facilitate micro-transactions. [07:53]
mircea_popescu the fact that it is designed to do it does not mean you are the one to do it. [07:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00474564 = 0.7118 BTC [-] [07:53]
kakobrekla that is true, yet i have seen bitcoin margins so ridiculusly high, you dont need volume [07:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 291 @ 0.00467378 = 1.3601 BTC [-] [07:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 556 @ 0.0046549 = 2.5881 BTC [-] [07:53]
Namworld For which transaction fees would be too large for 1-5$ transactions. [07:53]
mircea_popescu this is the asic argument all over again [07:54]
kakobrekla why are the margins like they are, thats another question [07:54]
kakobrekla with at least 2 anwers [07:54]
mircea_popescu the fact that asic fab plants are designed to make custom chips [07:54]
mircea_popescu does not mean bfl will be making asics. [07:54]
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mircea_popescu in principle, for every degree of magnitude the transaction goes down, your fixed costs go up one and a half. [07:54]
mircea_popescu you need to be a multi-billion corp to process sub 10 dollar transactions effectually. [07:55]
kakobrekla in RL ya [07:55]
mircea_popescu in bitcoin it is atm even worse [07:55]
mircea_popescu note, im not saying that by 2050 or w/e all these fabulous economies of scale baked in by design won't be working full bore [07:56]
kakobrekla to _process_ it doesnt cost anything [07:56]
mircea_popescu all im saying is that the average small biz does not find itself in a position to do this. [07:56]
kakobrekla i see what you mean [07:56]
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mircea_popescu 90%+ of all small businesses that tried bitcoin discovered this on their own timeand dime [07:57]
mircea_popescu this obviously is unavoidable, seeing how they couldn't afford to hire me to tell them this, and wouldn't have made sense of it anyway. [07:57]
Namworld Well then we also don't need small gamblers on SatoshiDice or BitVPS is not profitable with it's sub 10 dollar plans. So are small sellers accepting bitcoins and etc, online or not. [07:57]
kakobrekla but bitcoin is small, still. [07:57]
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kakobrekla not small, tiny. [07:57]
Bugpowder S.DICE benefits from small gamblers [07:57]
mircea_popescu Namworld the hosting industry may be the one single place where my above judgements may be shown mistaken [07:57]
Bugpowder lowers variance [07:57]
mircea_popescu because of very speciffic characteristics. [07:57]
kakobrekla Buglouse blockchain suffers from small gambers on sd [07:58]
Bugpowder and incremental transaction costs are near zero [07:58]
mircea_popescu and s.dice takes small gamblers because it's very easy to provide the service to them. [07:58]
kakobrekla :p [07:58]
Namworld Well it's indeed quite mostly automation and all online. [07:58]
kakobrekla fuck [07:58]
mircea_popescu it doesn't deliver anything [07:58]
kakobrekla Bugpowder [07:58]
kakobrekla srs whats with this bug nicks [07:58]
JohnGalt 3-9$ transactions would work fine for small takeaway or coffee shops [07:58]
mircea_popescu no gambler can pick up the phone and complain about damaged deliveries. [07:58]
mircea_popescu or want to return [07:58]
Namworld But that's exactly the problem that would get solved without such opposition. Bitcoin could get lower transaction costs with easier availability through more demand/offer. [07:58]
Bugpowder 60 BTC / mo fixed cost [07:58]
mircea_popescu JohnGalt it has been proven not to work > 20 times so far. [07:58]
Bugpowder it has economy of scale [07:58]
Rothgar hello [07:58]
mircea_popescu hi. [07:59]
Rothgar :) [07:59]
Namworld using phones to pay in bitcoins wuld be feasible for a much lower fee than the credit card conglomerate/payment processors are trying to offer. [07:59]
Namworld Which would allow even small shop to process smaller transactions with more profitability. [07:59]
Namworld Agreed that it's not currently feasible. [08:00]
mircea_popescu you're stubornly focusing on irrelevant detail. [08:00]
mircea_popescu it doesn't matter what the payment "costs" in your estimation. [08:00]
mircea_popescu what matters is how much dealing with people ACTUALLY costs. [08:00]
mircea_popescu dealing with poor people is very expensive. [08:00]
mircea_popescu handling small transactions is very expensive. [08:00]
Namworld Dealing with someone who enters and at the register pays for something is fast and inexpensive... [08:01]
Namworld even if the person is poor... [08:01]
mircea_popescu a well. [08:01]
Namworld or pays for not much. [08:01]
mircea_popescu it's right in front of your eyes dude. [08:01]
mircea_popescu they're not poor as an accident of fate [08:01]
mircea_popescu they're poor because they're stupid. [08:01]
mircea_popescu that means they will introduce friction [08:01]
mircea_popescu that further means you will be spending your time doing the impossible. [08:02]
kakobrekla a wait [08:02]
Bugpowder holy shit [08:02]
mircea_popescu such as, for instance, explaining to those idiots on that article quoted why they're wrong [08:02]
mircea_popescu in such terms as they'd be able to grasp [08:02]
Bugpowder That set of losses I posted [08:02]
mircea_popescu this feat costs exponentially more the dumber they are. [08:02]
kakobrekla >>See that picture ? The poor schmucks in that picture are likely more intelligent, more dilligent and generally better human beings than Gobry. Unfortunately for them, they didn’t have the obscene good fortune of being born in this part of the world. As a result, they’re dicking around packing mud while this worthless fuckwit goes about farting self-delusions of “strategic global [08:02]
kakobrekla issues” and whatnot. [08:02]
Bugpowder was from one guy starting with a 0.01BTC bet on less than 16000, and doubling it every loss [08:02]
Bugpowder until he lost 2000 BTC [08:03]
Bugpowder and gave up [08:03]
mircea_popescu ahahah nowai Bugpowder ? [08:03]
mircea_popescu i guess deposit soon ? [08:03]
Namworld Yes. But as far as I know most most brick and mortar business have to do that bitcoin or not and while not all manage to succeed at it, many remain in business, wether small or large. [08:03]
mircea_popescu no. they do not manage to stay in business. [08:03]
mircea_popescu there's a reason for chains and franchises and payment processors being centralised [08:03]
mircea_popescu and so forth. [08:03]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu are those chaps unfortunate or stupid? [08:04]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla the problem with macroeconomy is that those terms aren't distinct. [08:04]
mircea_popescu think in terms of girl looking for a husband. does she care if he;'s lucky or smart ? [08:04]
Namworld The reason is that it's more cost effective and branding brings clients. [08:04]
mircea_popescu she doesn't. she cares if he's gonna feed her babies. [08:05]
mircea_popescu no namworld. the reason is that people can't afford to stay in business [08:05]
mircea_popescu under the crushing pressure of the huge costs of the 3-9 dollars transaction. [08:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.0046549 = 4.1894 BTC [-] [08:05]
Namworld ... [08:05]
Namworld but those costs are very close for a chain convenience store or a personally owned one, for example... there's plenty of non-affiliated small businesses handling small transactions left. [08:06]
mircea_popescu not at all. [08:06]
mircea_popescu the chain can tell customers to go get fucked. [08:07]
mircea_popescu which it regularly does. [08:07]
mircea_popescu go try and complain to your phone company, as a fuine example. [08:07]
Namworld Well I can't speak for Romania. But I see small businesses staying around and in all apparence, doing well. [08:07]
mircea_popescu you see small service businesses staying around. [08:08]
mircea_popescu and even those have been taking a beating of horror past 10-20 years. [08:08]
kakobrekla small businesses are small businesses cause they arent large businesses [08:08]
Namworld Just as I see small providers competing with larger corps with better services. They still turn a profit and stick around. [08:09]
mircea_popescu small businesses are either a) going bankrupt (happens to 90% ish of them) or else in a new niche. [08:09]
Namworld It's harder and there's less margins. It's just not impossible. [08:09]
mircea_popescu im sorry, you must be from an alternate universe. why would i be doing something at a competitive disadvantage ? [08:11]
mircea_popescu if it's harder and it pays less i'm out of there. [08:11]
Namworld Because if you work for the corporation, you get paid even less. [08:11]
mircea_popescu lol. [08:11]
mircea_popescu you know, business is business, not survival. [08:11]
mircea_popescu it has to earn. [08:11]
mircea_popescu im not looking for a way to employ myself. [08:12]
Namworld Your margins are lower for the business, but the profit is better for the owner. As for employees, they're probably paid a similar pay. [08:12]
mircea_popescu the owner/business distinction is spurious. [08:12]
Namworld Well there's incentive as to create and keep the small business running as long as that advantage for the owner exists. [08:13]
mircea_popescu maybe. [08:13]
mircea_popescu in general it's irrational to expend your resources at a comparative disadvantage. [08:13]
Namworld That you have a 20% margin and your large competitor has 30% matters not if you get enough sales at 20% that you get a nice yearly earning. [08:13]
Namworld The owners just has to work for it. But I think that's a work/reward ratio that's still attractive. [08:14]
Bugpowder the more profitable one will crush you [08:14]
mircea_popescu it absolutely matters lol [08:14]
Bugpowder they will invest more [08:14]
Bugpowder they will destroy you [08:14]
mircea_popescu they might destroy you even if you have 10x their margins [08:14]
Bugpowder otherwise they will be destroyed [08:14]
mircea_popescu but to go into this when they hold the upper hand is folly. [08:15]
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Namworld It is folly, maybe. Many fails on that path. Most small businesses go bankrupt indeed. But some succeed. [08:16]
Namworld That this percentage is quite low matters not. It remains an incentive to exploit any opportunity. [08:16]
Namworld Bitcoins could help by making small transactions more accessible at lower costs. [08:17]
mircea_popescu they will make more expensive customers accessible,w hich will sink you. [08:17]
Namworld Well if it hasn't sunk small convenience stores and shops/restaurants, and still don't, I don't see why that would change anything. [08:20]
Namworld They already cater to the most "expensive" customers. [08:20]
mircea_popescu the most expensive customer in the world is the guy buying a 3-9 dollar trinket over the internet. [08:20]
Namworld Well I don't purport bitcoins would be good for users buying online for small amounts. [08:21]
Namworld I say they would in lieu of credit card for small transaction in shops. [08:22]
mircea_popescu not really. it meets nobody;s needs. [08:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 675 @ 0.00475997 = 3.213 BTC [+] [08:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 525 @ 0.00478695 = 2.5131 BTC [+] [08:22]
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Namworld Not right now. [08:23]
mircea_popescu merchant wants ensured funds, customer wants reversible transaction and balance protection [08:23]
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mircea_popescu cc companies offer all these, and rely on the state to police it all. [08:23]
mircea_popescu bitcoin has not the subsidy of the state, and can't offer either safety for the merchant or reversibility for the customer. [08:23]
Namworld Ah, I suppose. [08:23]
mircea_popescu bitcoin exists so a guy in china can be paid for 10 containers of tvs [08:23]
mircea_popescu not so that fifty people can buy a coffee each. [08:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 890 @ 0.00478695 = 4.2604 BTC [+] [08:24]
Namworld Well agreed that as a vehicle for transfer of value for large transactions, bitcoins would be ideal. [08:24]
mircea_popescu right. [08:25]
mircea_popescu once it becomes the standard there it will trickle down [08:25]
mircea_popescu historically the cheque was used by the rich [08:25]
mircea_popescu it eventually became standard for everyone. [08:25]
mircea_popescu historically electronic payments were bank-only. [08:25]
mircea_popescu then the credit card made them ubiqutous. [08:25]
mircea_popescu bitcoins for the masses happens in a decade or two. [08:25]
Namworld Well I'm not saying right away bitcoins should be used in shops... [08:26]
mircea_popescu many people are tho [08:26]
mircea_popescu and keep fucking over small business owners and customers. [08:26]
Namworld I don't believe we're anywhere near that level. [08:26]
Namworld I'm just saying misconception and bad press hinders bitcoins adoption and that they would prove useful given the right tools. [08:27]
mircea_popescu obviously once we build scale and capital and knowhow we'll be able to dislodge larger and larger chunks [08:27]
mircea_popescu but for now the focus on small busionesses is simply the tell-talle effect of incompetence and impotence in the bitcoin camp. [08:27]
mircea_popescu people don't know the people they should be talking to, don't know how to find them, don't dare approach them [08:27]
mircea_popescu so they pester barristas instead. [08:27]
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Namworld Ah. I merely wanted that misconception be cleared so there's less opposition. Better public view/demand for something increase the chance the people that matter will hear about, either through family or other connections. [08:29]
mircea_popescu not at all. [08:29]
mircea_popescu it's best if common people loathe btc for now. [08:29]
mircea_popescu just as it was best for mpex that all the glbse idjits hated it [08:30]
Namworld I'm not sure what advantage that has. [08:30]
Namworld They can't enter anyway [08:31]
mircea_popescu keeps the expensive people out and so saves our resources. [08:31]
Namworld They can't pay the entry fee anyway... [08:31]
Namworld If they want something they can't, they talk more about it than something they'd dismiss. [08:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 113 @ 0.00464997 = 0.5254 BTC [-] [08:32]
Namworld Which can attracts the attention of the people you want. [08:32]
mircea_popescu well bitcoin's problem is that it doesn't have who to put an entrance fee. [08:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1318 @ 0.00464997 = 6.1287 BTC [-] [08:34]
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Namworld You allow withdrawals as low as 0.0005 BTC? Isn't that catering to small transactions? [08:53]
Namworld I think I could hardly bother with anything less than 1 BTC. [08:53]
mircea_popescu o, that's a trap [08:54]
mircea_popescu mpex only processes deposits. [08:54]
Namworld Oh, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, I probably hallucinated my previous withdrawed bitcoins. Have a good day sir. [08:55]
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mircea_popescu lol [08:56]
Namworld But, in all seriousness, I just made a 40 BTC withdrawal request. [08:57]
Namworld It seems someone is selling my debt under par value and I wish to purchase it. [08:58]
Namworld The contract says upon request I'll pay par value and the email is right there along the contract but no one seems to bother requesting. Quite odd. [09:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00478378 = 2.1527 BTC [-] [09:00]
mircea_popescu done. [09:02]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/66/ anyone know what this is ? [09:04]
Namworld I've had the notice before you notified here. I do like the confirmation speed. [09:04]
Namworld Thank you for the prompt service. [09:04]
mircea_popescu hehe my pleasure. [09:06]
Namworld Well, now I even get to know who put those under par on the market... [09:17]
Namworld Hmm... [09:18]
mircea_popescu http://www.morgenthaler.com/home/contact-us/ [09:18]
mircea_popescu lmao idiots [09:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1689 @ 0.00478699 = 8.0852 BTC [+] [09:18]
Namworld oh wow... [09:19]
mircea_popescu and these people have like 1bn in assets [09:20]
mircea_popescu can't get a motherfucking link right. [09:20]
Namworld Okay... they manage 1 billion... that website is so basic... They probably pay a premium for the website and they manage to screw up the contact us link... [09:21]
Namworld and the page is screwed up. [09:22]
mircea_popescu va firms have possibly the worst websites [09:22]
Namworld Things get misaligned. Seems like no one thought of the poor contact page. [09:22]
mircea_popescu and most of them are in technology/it [09:23]
Namworld http://www.morgenthaler.com/ventures/contact/ [09:24]
Namworld Well the contact page from either sub-section works. At least. [09:25]
Namworld Just not from the main page =/ [09:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2426 @ 0.00478919 = 11.6186 BTC [+] [21:19]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [21:20]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00449 / 0.00468334 / 0.00478919 (362534 shares, 1,697.87 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00341561 / 0.0048 (14083889 shares, 48,105.09 BTC) [21:20]
topace ART? [21:23]
gigavps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWF86D_UNxc [21:24]
dub lol [21:25]
Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: >riot [21:29]
Diablo-D3 lol [21:29]
topace lol [21:30]
jurov Diablo-D3, do you watch KHL? we should set up some bets, too [21:32]
jurov i don't watch it much, but i saw todays' match in a gym so it occurred it to me [21:33]
mircea_popescu what's khl ? [21:33]
jurov continental hockey league [21:33]
mircea_popescu o [21:33]
jurov ex-USSR + czechoslovakia [21:33]
mircea_popescu mod6 was into hockey irc [21:33]
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mod6 ahh, yeah :) [21:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00478919 = 23.946 BTC [+] [21:36]
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mod6 the NHL is back from its lockout too fwiw. Just in time for BitBet :] [21:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00476061 = 5.7127 BTC [-] [21:41]
mircea_popescu >D [21:41]
smickles i/a [21:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1087 @ 0.00478919 = 5.2058 BTC [+] [21:46]
dub how do you get to the market on bitfunder [21:46]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135574.0 [21:50]
mircea_popescu lets see what comes out of this [21:50]
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jurov flowers for mpoe-pr, what else :) [21:54]
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jcpham poor thing. no one pays her attention it seems [21:55]
mod6 i thought it was a good round up [21:55]
mircea_popescu my bet is on crickets [21:56]
mod6 haha [21:56]
mircea_popescu they're just too afraid of her by now. [21:56]
jcpham i hope she doesn't scare journalists away [21:57]
mod6 someone needs to set these guys straight. and she's been spot on for over a year. [21:57]
mircea_popescu can you scare journalists away ? [21:57]
mircea_popescu moreover. if you scare some dood away, could he have been a journalist ? [21:58]
dub im sure I saw a market page on bitfunder yesterday [21:58]
dub but now.. [21:58]
dub was I mistaken? [21:58]
dub or do I need more coffee [21:58]
jurov dub, why? yes there's more stuff there now. [21:59]
dub link? [21:59]
dub all I see is an asset list [22:00]
jurov you think there was more yest? [22:01]
dub the asset list is the market page? its just a list of btc addresses with stock balances [22:01]
dub I must be mistaking it with another site [22:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00477962 = 4.0627 BTC [+] [22:11]
dub nearly positivie it was bitfunder [22:12]
dub maybe its a browser problem [22:12]
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dub are there any sites not in the topic? [22:15]
topace kakobrekla: assbot isnt showing havelock trades [22:16]
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mircea_popescu dub im sure there must be [22:23]
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dub pretty sure I looked at it last night [22:24]
dub but I can only find news|asset list|t&c [22:24]
dub if it is there, its very well hidden [22:25]
dub yeah tbqh accurate or not its hard to see how the post would produce anything but negative PR [22:38]
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dub 1337 dice yo [22:38]
mircea_popescu dub the gorby thing ? [22:39]
mircea_popescu "Can someone with a seat on the board say if they're getting more update than that ? [22:40]
mircea_popescu Nope, so far board members do not have more info than what is provided in this thread." [22:40]
mircea_popescu whoopdedoo. [22:40]
dub mircea_popescu: the feet kissing post [22:40]
mircea_popescu o [22:41]
mircea_popescu heh. who exactly is big enough to do "negative PR" ? [22:42]
dub its seldom productive to rub peoples faces in their own shit, expecially a bunch of nobodies [22:42]
mircea_popescu in general that's true. [22:42]
mircea_popescu here it's important, i think, because otherwise the flavour of the entire thing slowly turns to shit. [22:42]
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mircea_popescu "Chinese new year or not this a bad time of year to rely on devices that rely so heavily on parts from countries that celebrate the near years and the up coming spring festival." [22:52]
mircea_popescu pity asicminer didn't have its shares up, it'd have made a killing. [22:53]
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kakobrekla everything is under control, dont panic. [23:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00478919 = 5.2681 BTC [+] [23:16]
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markedathome http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/extremely-crtical-ruby-on-rails-bug-threatens-more-than-200000-sites/ [23:21]
markedathome http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/01/09/1557235/ruby-on-rails-sql-injection-flaw-has-serious-real-life-consequences [23:21]
markedathome so how many bitcoin sites is that? 90-95%? [23:21]
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mircea_popescu yeah we saw it yest. [23:23]
mircea_popescu mpex doesn't use ruby. [23:23]
mircea_popescu glbse iirc did. [23:23]
topace hahaha ruby on rails [23:24]
markedathome glbse and bitcoinica [23:24]
mircea_popescu o wait, i guess that bitfinex stolen code thing also ? [23:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [test] 1 @ 0.00000001 BTC [23:29]
markedathome bitfinex? [23:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [+] [23:29]
Bugpowder 0.5! [23:29]
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mircea_popescu ;;ident Namworld [23:40]
gribble Nick 'Namworld', with hostmask 'Namworld!~BTC-Minin@modemcable075.132-23-96.mc.videotron.ca', is identified as user Namworld, with GPG key id F2758D83EEEDE453, key fingerprint F12DE6B4E1EF26F5768BE918F2758D83EEEDE453, and bitcoin address 1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk [23:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-] [23:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [+] [23:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-] [23:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [+] [23:42]
dub whut is this supposed to be https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=9443;type=avatar [23:42]
dub bitcoin cock? [23:42]
FabianB ;;tslb [23:44]
gribble Time since last block: 1 hour and 23 seconds [23:44]
dub nice [23:44]
dub ;;bc,stats [23:44]
gribble Current Blocks: 215901 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 1826 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3021412.00645230 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.02059076507 [23:44]
dub ;;bc,diffchange [23:44]
gribble Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -7.02059076507 % based on data since last change | -5.1399053661 % based on data for last three days [23:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00478919 = 14.3676 BTC [+] [23:49]
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smickles it's too early to tell on the next diff, isn't it? [23:57]
smickles kakobrekla: 21:51 -!- assbot [~assbot@78.46.215.65] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [23:57]
kakobrekla ya [23:57]
Bugpowder yeah, with the asics shipping [23:57]
kakobrekla im doing some changes as we speak smickles [23:57]
Bugpowder could go up a lot [23:57]
Bugpowder next week [23:57]
kakobrekla burnsides exchange is comming as well [23:57]
smickles kakobrekla: cool, just thought i'd let you know :) [23:58]
smickles Bugpowder: they are actually shipping now? [23:58]
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Bugpowder 10 days [23:58]
Bugpowder http://www.avalon-asics.com [23:58]
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