Forum logs for 09 Dec 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43600 @ 0.00047768 = 20.8268 BTC [-] {4}	[00:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0004768 = 5.96 BTC [-]	[00:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5458 @ 0.00047486 = 2.5918 BTC [-]	[00:24]
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ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu, Naphex: are the xotika reports living at predictable urls?	[00:28]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-10-2015#1292987 << only gripe is with paying shareholder divs without paying tax	[00:29]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 19:36:34; mircea_popescu: https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html << speaking of which, plox to give the guy's numbers a good shakedown, because im considering listing xotika this month.	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes they should, yeah	[00:30]
ben_vulpes	also what constitutes expenditures?	[00:31]
ben_vulpes	not that anyone cares, but things i'd like to see pre-ipo:	[00:33]
ben_vulpes	- monthly reports	[00:33]
ben_vulpes	- description of expenditures	[00:33]
ben_vulpes	- tax payments	[00:33]
ben_vulpes	find	[00:34]
ben_vulpes	fin*	[00:34]
ben_vulpes	not that i'm even going to look at the blockchain on the latter, but they should at least show up on the balance sheet, even if they are going directly into naphex' pocket	[00:34]
mircea_popescu	that's actually kinda the idea.	[00:34]
ben_vulpes	ofc but for logreaders.	[00:35]
kakobrekla	i rather confused reading this statement but i may be thick	[00:35]
kakobrekla	im*	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	questions help.	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	for me for instance it is quite informative that a reasonable timespan for public consultation is ~2 mo.	[00:35]
*	mircea_popescu wonders if monthly reports aren't too frequent.	[00:36]
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kakobrekla	fees are taken on withdrawals? how much is that fee?	[00:37]
ben_vulpes	monthly is an adequate frequency for inspecting operators commitment to the project.	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	!up whiterock	[00:37]
-assbot-	You voiced whiterock for 30 minutes.	[00:37]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes yeah, that's true.	[00:37]
ben_vulpes	see davout and x.eur	[00:37]
whiterock	!up	[00:38]
ben_vulpes	too late, whiterock, mircea_popescu beat you to it.	[00:38]
kakobrekla	what are these private investments? do those investors get same shares as (will be) on mpex?	[00:38]
whiterock	haha thanks	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla that's just the guy putting money in from his pocket.	[00:39]
kakobrekla	dividends are 9 from 35?	[00:40]
ben_vulpes	board can authorize divs of whatever size they want to?	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	huh ?	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	anyway, i dun recall what they charged, a few % but sliding scale	[00:41]
kakobrekla	yeah these numbers dont make any sense to me still.	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	somewhat unrelated, http://36.media.tumblr.com/1cc9a5d0cfe50e3ab506233f9f113a82/tumblr_mksvh7tuk11rl0d0yo1_1280.jpg	[00:42]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1m9vjrI )	[00:42]
whiterock	hi guys i cant back read the topi. if its ok, may i know what is being discussed?	[00:42]
ben_vulpes	shareholder equity implies a previous investment round as well.	[00:42]
ben_vulpes	whiterock: find the topic with /topic	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	whiterock try the log eh.	[00:42]
ben_vulpes	but that has nothing to do with the topic	[00:42]
kakobrekla	> as fees are calculated on withdrawal >Dividend to shareholders 9.6487 > Withdrawals* 35.7354 >	[00:42]
whiterock	oh great thanks	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes no, it's an accumulator value. everything not otherwise accounted is shareholder equity.	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla and where's the problem ?	[00:43]
kakobrekla	9 btc on 35 btc ?	[00:43]
ben_vulpes	aok	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	they're not really related tho. so the site paid 35 btc in withdrawals (by performers) and 9 btc in dividends	[00:44]
ben_vulpes	like i said kakobrekla the 'board' can pay whatever in divs apparently	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	it can pay whatever it wants in dividends, up to its entire cash balance.	[00:44]
kakobrekla	but site generates div from fees on withdrawals	[00:44]
kakobrekla	aha	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	no, it generates dividends on board say-so out of its cash	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	just as long as they're paid fairly (ie, by share ownership proportion) they can be any arbitrary value between 0 and entreprise value	[00:45]
kakobrekla	so he paid 9to himself if i understand this correctly?	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	logically he put 23 in got 9 out, seems to me	[00:45]
ben_vulpes	;;calc 23.8804/7.16412	[00:46]
gribble	3.33333333333	[00:46]
whiterock	is punkman around btw?	[00:46]
ben_vulpes	;;calc 7.16412/23.8804	[00:47]
gribble	0.3	[00:47]
kakobrekla	and 'platform dev' ? is he charging the actual work needed with the site?	[00:47]
ben_vulpes	30% depreciation in server value over four months and some days?	[00:47]
ben_vulpes	aaa fractional months	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	the one problem i see in there is that if there's 73 deposited and 35 withdrawn, the difference is unearned income, and improperly reported as shareholder equity.	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	should really be under viewers i suppose.	[00:48]
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ben_vulpes	yeah also what is platform dev	[00:49]
ben_vulpes	and why is that reported as an asset value increase	[00:49]
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mircea_popescu	that i recall the discussion of. i asked if it has resale/license value, and he said yes.	[00:49]
ben_vulpes	!down whiterock	[00:49]
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mircea_popescu	so in principle, it could be sold.	[00:49]
ben_vulpes	some hand-wavey value of the software?	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	i would expect it's a historical value of the software	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	"this is what we spend developing it"	[00:50]
ben_vulpes	i thought Naphex wrote it	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	i thought it was a one man show originally too, but apparently there's at least another guy (this CoraCrisT fellow) doing something in between ceo and pr.	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	and i guess more people.	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	!up CoraCrisT	[00:51]
-assbot-	You voiced CoraCrisT for 30 minutes.	[00:51]
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ben_vulpes	also "software" should be depreciated on a goddamn 2 year schedule it rots so quickly. especially these single-page angular things; they're exceptionally more expensive to maintain as time goes on.	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	!gettrust CoraCrisT	[00:51]
assbot	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user CoraCrisT: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=CoraCrisT \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/CoraCrisT/	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes afaik their major weakness is an inability to run in anything but chrome atm	[00:52]
ben_vulpes	that has nothing to do with depreciation schedule.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	no, but it has a lot to do with future cost.	[00:53]
ben_vulpes	and think what you will, constraining the operating environment to just chrome is a pretty sensible cost-reducing move.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	i didn't veto it or anything.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	jus' saying.	[00:53]
ben_vulpes	you can make the consumers "come to expect" anything, unless mgmt insists pigheadedly on cross-browser support chasing "lift" or "conversion" or some such, chrome should be adequate.	[00:54]
ben_vulpes	ofc this buys also the risk of google ripping the sheets out from under one.	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	i dunno that anyone's downloading a browser to run your spunk app.	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	moreover, unless google;'s paying for this, why the fuck am i dirving their dumbass product on my dime.	[00:55]
ben_vulpes	everyone already has chrome, there is no "download".	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	i don't know anyone running chrome.	[00:55]
*	ben_vulpes rolls eyes	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	o god damned it	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	i stand corrected.	[00:57]
*	mircea_popescu looked in trilema's last month, it's actually mostly chrome. http://dpaste.com/2VEQBEC	[00:58]
assbot	dpaste: 2VEQBEC ... ( http://bit.ly/1m9wpne )	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	so i guess there's a new microsoft huh.	[01:00]
*	ben_vulpes nods	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	sad.	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	god forsaken species that never in its history produced anything but stupid.	[01:01]
ben_vulpes	welcome, mircea_popescu, to the new new new new web	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	"oh i know, we've never done the stupid thing THIS WAY before!"	[01:01]
ben_vulpes	what was it before?	[01:01]
ben_vulpes	lynx?	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	"drop everything! there's another same-way to do the stupid!"	[01:01]
*	ben_vulpes not a fan but a prisoner	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	anyway. i'm off to bed. looking forward to part 2 of the xotika discussion once Naphex shows up.	[01:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00047609 = 7.7603 BTC [+] {2}	[01:12]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00047983 = 10.8921 BTC [+] {2}	[01:41]
BingoBoingo	iirc a certain ver. of 'wordpress' also shat 'magical' quotez << All of them seem to force it unless suitably corrected	[01:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00048885 = 8.7504 BTC [+] {2}	[01:53]
ben_vulpes	https://vimeo.com/147767325 << this is some epic horseshit	[01:54]
assbot	VimeUhOh ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ob1WM3 )	[01:54]
ben_vulpes	gamma phi beta and kappa delta are abusing the DMCA to take down videos that portray them in ways in which they do not like.	[01:55]
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ben_vulpes	dear victoria valentine, she who studies/d film and made an entertaining video about cults and sororities, do drop me a line.	[01:56]
ben_vulpes	;;later tell mitch_callahan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTCGe4neOM found a backup	[02:00]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[02:00]
assbot	RECRUITMENT 2016 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXHcPp )	[02:00]
ben_vulpes	also vimeo is a reprehensible operation who caves unconditionally to baseless dmca notices from SORORITIES	[02:01]
ben_vulpes	what a buncha wimps.	[02:01]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00048976 = 11.142 BTC [+] {3}	[02:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.00049013 = 4.2421 BTC [+]	[02:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8045 @ 0.00049084 = 3.9488 BTC [+]	[02:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00048643 = 8.9503 BTC [-]	[02:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00048379 = 4.3057 BTC [-]	[02:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22006 @ 0.00049084 = 10.8014 BTC [+]	[02:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8110 @ 0.00048379 = 3.9235 BTC [-]	[02:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.0004777 = 8.3836 BTC [-] {2}	[03:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.00047482 = 15.4317 BTC [-] {2}	[03:15]
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BingoBoingo	!up scoopbot_revived	[03:24]
BingoBoingo	Oh shit scoopbot_revived	[03:24]
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liquidassets	These Usian Disney chicks keep using 'love' like it's this thing one gives to another to substitute for what one lacks, or a tool for filling a void or getting what one wants. Maybe the word they're actually looking for is cock! Do you cock me? Well sure I do baby.	[03:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00047557 = 7.3476 BTC [+] {2}	[03:32]
ben_vulpes	http://thetab.com/us/uconn/2015/12/07/exclusive-interview-artist-pissed-off-greek-life-1908 << victoria valentine actually went so far as to file a Fair Use doctrine appeal. doesn't appear that vimeo gives a shit, though.	[03:33]
assbot	We spoke to the 'Cuse artist whose cult video pissed off Greek life ... ( http://bit.ly/1NhEddb )	[03:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7790 @ 0.00048346 = 3.7662 BTC [+]	[03:35]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33250 @ 0.00047473 = 15.7848 BTC [-] {2}	[03:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7365 @ 0.00047456 = 3.4951 BTC [-]	[03:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5135 @ 0.00047428 = 2.4354 BTC [-]	[03:51]
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BingoBoingo	http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2015/12/04/shkrelis-chagas-maneuver << Also important to note Chagas is an emerging illness in the United States	[04:34]
assbot	Shkreli’s Chagas Maneuver \| In the Pipeline ... ( http://bit.ly/1NaOM44 )	[04:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00047509 = 7.3639 BTC [+]	[04:40]
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adlai	huh, so tradeblock.com (dynamic web2.0++ horrorshow, be warned) flags bitfinex as "operating unreliably", butt has no problem giving okcasino over 50% weighing in their price index	[05:18]
punkman	http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-bitcoin-exclusive-idUSKBN0TS0AB20151209	[05:22]
assbot	Australian police raid Sydney home of reported bitcoin creator	[05:22]
punkman	where's cazalla with the scoop	[05:25]
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BingoBoingo	punkman: I just saw it. Writing up a note.	[05:34]
punkman	raid supposedly not related to bitcoin, but obvious what would happen to the real satoshi	[05:47]
punkman	maybe he's already in coke machine but doesn't remember teh keys	[05:48]
punkman	adlai, did you try any of the chinese exchanges yet?	[05:49]
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adlai	mno	[05:54]
adlai	it's reassuring that we've not had another gox-scale gox since gox... yet	[05:58]
punkman	wait for it when price shoots up again	[05:59]
adlai	meanwhilol, https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/10/cons-conflict-resolved-at-last/	[06:02]
assbot	jwz: Cons conflict resolved at last ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSPuDz )	[06:02]
deedbot-	[Qntra] Craig Steven Wright Raided By Australian Police - http://qntra.net/2015/12/craig-steven-wright-raided-by-australian-police/	[06:02]
BingoBoingo	My first draft had the phrase "theft boners"	[06:04]
adlai	(from comments) "Please add a "+1" button to each topic post. It doesn't have to and probably shouldn't do anything except maybe flash once if you push it." << reminds of the crosswalk impatience vents	[06:04]
adlai	ransomware!	[06:04]
adlai	who knew it'd reach meatspace	[06:04]
BingoBoingo	I though ransomware started in meatspace	[06:05]
*	adlai tends to forget the years Before Coin	[06:05]
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punkman	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVvZ-hnUsAAQfe4.png:large	[06:17]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQd7P )	[06:17]
adlai	reasonable people do themselves a disservice by stooping to the language of simpletons	[06:18]
punkman	"anthropomorphic global warming"	[06:18]
adlai	just phrase it as pinpointing the nature and inception of the anthropocene era, their eyes will glaze over and they'll back out of your territory instead of pretending to understand the issues	[06:20]
BingoBoingo	https://i.sli.mg/6aMmQd.png	[06:20]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1IE6QEI )	[06:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00047829 = 11.0963 BTC [+]	[06:21]
punkman	-morhpic, -genic , who cares, the first few letters look right	[06:24]
BingoBoingo	https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/712180	[06:27]
assbot	HAES: "My bloodwork is perfect" edition. \| fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE7rX1 )	[06:27]
adlai	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w1s4i/should_we_rename_the_blockchain_craigs_list/	[06:27]
assbot	Should we rename the blockchain Craigs List? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE7wde )	[06:28]
BingoBoingo	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2953749/Now-doctors-boy-12-gastric-band-Youngest-British-patient-extreme-weight-loss-surgery-experts-declare-child-obesity-parents-fault-new-TV-expos.html	[06:31]
assbot	Now doctors give boy, 12, gastric band: Youngest ever British patient of extreme weight-loss surgery as experts declare child obesity IS parents' fault in new TV exposé \| Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQRCh )	[06:31]
BingoBoingo	https://imgur.com/Tv3cNqc << lol Wright really looks like a plant nao	[06:33]
assbot	Blockchain Scale Tests by (alleged) Satoshi! 340 GB blocks, 568k transactions! - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQW95 )	[06:33]
BingoBoingo	https://archive.is/e17Ed	[06:35]
assbot	dudetalking comments on Dr. Craig Steven Wright (alleged Satoshi, by Wired) on YouTube, from Bitcoin Investor Conference at Las Vegas ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE86I3 )	[06:35]
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adlai	moderator: "Oh so it can then be taxed as a currency and a commodity, and [Dr CSW] said, 'neither'" << clearly has not signed the pledge of allegiance yet	[06:47]
adlai	aha so at 20:37 cowboy hat cites jgarzik for an idea of softforking turing-complete opcodes... i'd like to see miners lemming their way along with that soft fork	[06:52]
*	adlai wonders whether we'll first see a fork fail soft or hard	[06:54]
adlai	https://twitter.com/BitcoinBelle/status/674365484029059072 (panel moderator, seems to have been the bait that fished out the good doctor)	[06:57]
adlai	assbot choking on twitter? https://archive.is/oWetS	[06:58]
assbot	DI$RUPTIV3 on Twitter: "You know that moment when you discover that someone you thought worthy proves himself to not be? #WeighedAndMeasuredAndFailed" ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEadeR )	[06:58]
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adlai	"as a recovering government bureaucrat, i'll refrain from commenting things i know nothing about" ed moy wins the panel	[07:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13965 @ 0.00048172 = 6.7272 BTC [+]	[07:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18824 @ 0.00047784 = 8.9949 BTC [-] {3}	[07:20]
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mircea_popescu	Australian police raid Sydney home of reported bitcoin creator << ahahaha WHAT	[07:44]
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mircea_popescu	punkman> "anthropomorphic global warming" << he means anthropogenic, but whatever. redditards.	[07:51]
mircea_popescu	just phrase it as pinpointing the nature and inception of the anthropocene era, their eyes will glaze over and they'll back out of your territory instead of pretending to understand the issues <<< this is an exceptionally retarded approach to keeping idiots in check. it has a lengthy history of being deployed by "white" people ever before white people were invented, and it always failed. nevertheless, it's stil	[07:53]
mircea_popescu	l with us like the belief god may change your coke to pepsi : because it's easy, and because it caters to the specific lacks and infirmities of the "white" mind.	[07:53]
mircea_popescu	Should we rename the blockchain Craigs List? : Bitcoin ... << pretty much the core of why redditards are so lulzy. THEY are going to RENAME things ? like what, their imaginary gf ? isis ?	[07:54]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: pretty sure that was a joke	[07:55]
mircea_popescu	https://imgur.com/Tv3cNqc << lol Wright really looks like a plant nao <<< ahahaa now i remember that muppet. intel turned him up sometime this autumn, total lulzfest.	[07:55]
assbot	Blockchain Scale Tests by (alleged) Satoshi! 340 GB blocks, 568k transactions! - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQW95 )	[07:55]
adlai	it doesn't keep them in check, the purpose is deflection	[07:55]
mircea_popescu	basically keiser in his youth.	[07:56]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony no, the "joke" is only there to make the idiocy pass.	[07:57]
mircea_popescu	kinda how adolescents the world over do their dating. "hey, wanna go out with me ? no ? oh, i was only joking. ha-ha."	[07:57]
mircea_popescu	funniest shit ever.	[07:58]
mircea_popescu	"Who filed the claim? Gamma Phi Beta and Kappa Delta, two large national organizations of sisterly love, whose houses and members were featured in the video. This was highly suspect."	[07:58]
mircea_popescu	yeah dude. totally fucking suspect, that you film on my premises without paying me and then don't get to benefit from the product. so suspect it almost makes me wonder why the fuck would i even bother owning shit.	[07:59]
adlai	heh, ed moy's closing words boil down to "usg has no future in bitcoin beyond hoping to tax it"	[07:59]
mircea_popescu	hey, that's exactly what the republic of china's government hopes in china are. har har. they'll tax the mainland off taiwan!"	[08:00]
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punkman	film on my premises without paying me << looked like he just used segments from sororities' own videos	[08:02]
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*	mircea_popescu sees the wisdom of asciilifeform now, to his chagrin.	[08:02]
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mircea_popescu	punkman right ?	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	and in other news, http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-12-09.log.html#t11:06:47	[08:09]
assbot	#Eulora log for Wednesday, 2015-12-09 ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAuIcX )	[08:10]
mircea_popescu	that sciencemag bit is hysterical tho. idiots who buy into the whole "ip is needed for to creativity with!" hook line and sinker are displeased when it turns out "ip only exists for people to arb the process, and make money out of the money intended to support creativity". but it never occurs to them what the problem is. because hey, why should scientists be any better at thinking than random five year old, "dog bit me	[08:13]
mircea_popescu	, dog's bad"	[08:13]
mircea_popescu	it's not like their own unsufferable personalities ever bite them. it's just these damned dogs everywhere all the time!	[08:14]
mircea_popescu	anyway, so the point of the "is random derp X ?" (no) article was so that reuters could run a piece saying "Australian police raided the Sydney home and office on Wednesday of a man named by Wired magazine as the probable creator of bitcoin and holder of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of the cryptocurrency, Reuters witnesses said."	[08:16]
mircea_popescu	which is great, i guess, if you're at that level of stupid, but otherwise would seem kinda damaging.	[08:16]
mircea_popescu	i guess reuters, wired & all correctly judge that there's absolutely no brand value left in their shit and so why worry.	[08:16]
mircea_popescu	in other news, would any of the brighter minds present explain the jwz piece to me ? i have the feeling he thinks he's being clever, but i lack the resources to comprehend the intricate minutia of his idiocy.	[08:18]
mircea_popescu	https://www.jwz.org/blog/2008/03/most-positive-bignum/ << in his defense this is actually pretty lulzy. ESPECIALLY the microcode loop part.	[08:30]
assbot	jwz: MOST-POSITIVE-BIGNUM ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAwvih )	[08:30]
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fluffypony	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2vU8M6CYI	[08:40]
assbot	Beatles 3000 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxqiz )	[08:40]
mircea_popescu	http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.	[08:40]
assbot	Dreamsongs ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxnDA )	[08:40]
mircea_popescu	"i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" evaluates to p-bignum.	[08:40]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.sei.cmu.edu/splc2009/images/rgabriel.jpg << protip : almost no one outside of young women looks good smiling. STOP DOING IT. you're supposed to have a personality. have a fucking personality.	[08:45]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxLSp )	[08:45]
mircea_popescu	http://exple.tive.org/blarg/2011/12/22/astrophysics/ << "Doing the math we can conclude it will take 1.7 x 10^17 years for our sun to generate the same amount of energy as the dietary value of one cubic light year of cheese."	[08:50]
assbot	Astrophysics – blarg? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qvn3xl )	[08:50]
adlai	"College is a place where a professor's lecture notes go straight to a student's lecture notes without passing through the brains of either" - Samuel L Clemens	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLIMATE_COUNTDOWN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-08-15-02-36 << in more random lulz, Cardinal Peter Turkson, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace who helped draft the pope's June encyclical on global warming, said "If it gets to a stalemate or whatever, [...]". valley girls prevail.	[08:56]
assbot	News from The Associated Press ... ( http://bit.ly/1QvnFmm )	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	or whatever.	[08:56]
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adlai	http://roland.iwasno.net/lisp/datoura/datoura.html "set of data graphing lisp routines that generate postscript output. Generating postscript eliminates the need for X graphics libraries, but you must have a postscript viewer installed"	[09:08]
assbot	datoura_homepage ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAzoiZ )	[09:08]
adlai	great for printing afictionados and headless arsonists	[09:08]
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mircea_popescu	https://angel.co/syndicates << in other news, every proprietary scamsystem/kickstarter out there will be sooner or later building a bug-ridden, half-baked, ad-hoc implementation of the common wot.	[09:21]
assbot	Syndicates - AngelList ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAAonn )	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	and pretend like they have no clue about it, too. "i just got this idea".	[09:21]
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mircea_popescu	all romanian literature, +- 2 or 3 people in the entire history, consists of translations and imports passed off as original.	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	the crayfish, frog and pike story counts in romanian as "wholly original content by al donici", notwithstanding it's a plain as day translation of previous generation ru material.	[09:22]
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mircea_popescu	all "rock" throuyghout the 60s-90s is simply us music set to [bad] localised lyrics. and contemporary "rap" is just about the same.	[09:23]
mircea_popescu	there's something very appealing to idiocy about this process of "invention" through kidnapping a princess and dragging her through the mud of one's orcish abode.	[09:23]
adlai	leaving your mark on the world, like a pissing mutt, rather than breathing life into a new one	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	what mark ? chagas is hardly a mark.	[09:26]
adlai	https://imgur.com/snLplqq	[09:27]
assbot	i made this little comic, hope you like it - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQhtFF )	[09:27]
mircea_popescu	then we wonder why cuckolding is the primary lifestyle of white pplz.	[09:28]
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mircea_popescu	http://25iq.com/2015/03/28/a-dozen-things-ive-learned-from-startup-l-jackson-about-venture-capital-investing-and-startups/ << quarterly review of the whole "start-up" gargle as amusing this quarter as the last, and the many before that.	[09:32]
assbot	A Dozen Things I’ve Learned from Startup L. Jackson About Venture Capital Investing and Startups \| 25iq ... ( http://bit.ly/1TABnDY )	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	"here's the things we want you to think : a) that you need us ; b) that you shouldn't look out for yourself".	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	yeah, totally. what you want when doing a start-up is to "raise" a lot of money so you can pay the people who you "rose" it from rent so their real-estate sidelines do really well (in exactly the opposite fashion of what's preached here), while "not optimizing for your size of the pie".	[09:33]
mircea_popescu	sounds like exactly what they told the indians, too.	[09:33]
punkman	it does say 25 iq	[09:34]
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mircea_popescu	which happens to be exactly what's happening, too. indians "had" land, the nature of which they failed to understand, but it was the funciar good for good reason back then.	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	which happens to be exactly what's happening, too. indians "had" land, the nature of which they failed to understand, but it was the funciar good for good reason back then.	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	these indians have time, the nature of which they also fail to understand, and well... it's the funciar good today.	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	these indians have time, the nature of which they also fail to understand, and well... it's the funciar good today.	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	oh right, and i forgot, "c) there's a shortage of you suckers [and really, alot of money you can give right back to us is "chasing" this deal. totally.]"	[09:37]
mircea_popescu	oh right, and i forgot, "c) there's a shortage of you suckers [and really, alot of money you can give right back to us is "chasing" this deal. totally.]"	[09:37]
mircea_popescu	punkman so it does huh. except it's a weird thing, i've seen this lots in us-born slavegirls. woman could be well above 100 iq, think herself stupid, and indeed exhibit ~30-50 iq in selected fields.	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	punkman so it does huh. except it's a weird thing, i've seen this lots in us-born slavegirls. woman could be well above 100 iq, think herself stupid, and indeed exhibit ~30-50 iq in selected fields.	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	so well selected for the convenience&perpetuation of the stupidity she comes from, one can hardly believe it's not deliberately trained.	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	so well selected for the convenience&perpetuation of the stupidity she comes from, one can hardly believe it's not deliberately trained.	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	but whatever, fight "patriarchy", not the incredibly unhealthy system that makes you be dumb in the few spots it handles you by so your smarts in the rest of the spectrum can be best sucked dry.	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	but whatever, fight "patriarchy", not the incredibly unhealthy system that makes you be dumb in the few spots it handles you by so your smarts in the rest of the spectrum can be best sucked dry.	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	average ustard is, i would guess, a 110 to 115 iq college graduate whose 110 to 115 iq is composed of 150+ iq in beating himself up, 25 iq in establishing relationships and so on and so forth.	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	average ustard is, i would guess, a 110 to 115 iq college graduate whose 110 to 115 iq is composed of 150+ iq in beating himself up, 25 iq in establishing relationships and so on and so forth.	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	ethical idiocy, where ethical does not mean what esltards think it means, but merely "how to correctly live".	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	ethical idiocy, where ethical does not mean what esltards think it means, but merely "how to correctly live".	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	this is actually indicative of the very fucking problem : ethics means, how to live. such as for instance, how to drive a fucking airplane i nthe tax office if you live in the us. that's ethics. meanwhile the carefully-debilitated ustards actually think ethics means the exact opposite of what ethics means. to them ethics is "the ways to inconvenience your life".	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	this is actually indicative of the very fucking problem : ethics means, how to live. such as for instance, how to drive a fucking airplane i nthe tax office if you live in the us. that's ethics. meanwhile the carefully-debilitated ustards actually think ethics means the exact opposite of what ethics means. to them ethics is "the ways to inconvenience your life".	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	iq 25 alright.	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	iq 25 alright.	[09:44]
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Naphex	o/ morning	[10:36]
Naphex	o/ morning	[10:36]
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deedbot-	[Trilema] Etica Mircea - http://trilema.com/2015/etica-mircea/	[11:17]
deedbot-	[Trilema] Etica Mircea - http://trilema.com/2015/etica-mircea/	[11:17]
mircea_popescu	rfc btw ^	[11:17]
mircea_popescu	rfc btw ^	[11:17]
nubbins`	!seen mitch_callahan	[11:20]
nubbins`	!seen mitch_callahan	[11:20]
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jurov	;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur	[11:21]
gribble	Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker \| Best bid: 384.0, Best ask: 386.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 386.0, 24 hour volume: 166.94604927, 24 hour low: 361.0, 24 hour high: 387.0, 24 hour vwap: 378.32201248	[11:21]
gribble	Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker \| Best bid: 384.0, Best ask: 386.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 386.0, 24 hour volume: 166.94604927, 24 hour low: 361.0, 24 hour high: 387.0, 24 hour vwap: 378.32201248	[11:21]
jurov	!t m x.eur	[11:21]
assbot	[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00260363 / 0.00269875 / 0.00276803 (513 shares, 1.38 BTC), 7D: 0.00260363 / 0.00278366 / 0.00282306 (1652 shares, 4.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00260363 / 0.00308798 / 0.00343696 (6435 shares, 19.87 BTC)	[11:21]
assbot	[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00260363 / 0.00269875 / 0.00276803 (513 shares, 1.38 BTC), 7D: 0.00260363 / 0.00278366 / 0.00282306 (1652 shares, 4.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00260363 / 0.00308798 / 0.00343696 (6435 shares, 19.87 BTC)	[11:21]
jurov	;;calc 1/0.00260363	[11:22]
gribble	384.079151031	[11:22]
gribble	384.079151031	[11:22]
jurov	mkay	[11:22]
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Naphex	ben_vulpes: i did write xotika and still do. I work with a graphic designer and frontend developer	[11:25]
Naphex	ben_vulpes: i did write xotika and still do. I work with a graphic designer and frontend developer	[11:25]
Naphex	CoraCrisT handless the bussiness side, and press and recruiting and a bunch of other stuff	[11:26]
Naphex	CoraCrisT handless the bussiness side, and press and recruiting and a bunch of other stuff	[11:26]
Naphex	ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends	[11:27]
Naphex	ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends	[11:27]
Naphex	the api is meant to be exported for all the other clients which we will be developing	[11:27]
Naphex	the api is meant to be exported for all the other clients which we will be developing	[11:27]
Naphex	like Android APPs for phones/tables and smarttv	[11:27]
Naphex	like Android APPs for phones/tables and smarttv	[11:27]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $1,000 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1234/bitcoin-to-top-1-000-before-jul-2016/#b13	[11:28]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $1,000 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1234/bitcoin-to-top-1-000-before-jul-2016/#b13	[11:28]
shinohai	http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/09/pine-a64-64-bit-4k-maker-board/ <<< nifty	[11:32]
shinohai	http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/09/pine-a64-64-bit-4k-maker-board/ <<< nifty	[11:32]
assbot	PINE A64 is a $15, 'high-performance' take on the Raspberry Pi ... ( http://bit.ly/1M2ZcPb )	[11:32]
assbot	PINE A64 is a $15, 'high-performance' take on the Raspberry Pi ... ( http://bit.ly/1M2ZcPb )	[11:32]
Naphex	ben_vulpes:and think what you will, constraining the operating environment to just chrome is a pretty sensible cost-reducing move.	[11:33]
Naphex	ben_vulpes:and think what you will, constraining the operating environment to just chrome is a pretty sensible cost-reducing move.	[11:33]
Naphex	<<< spot on	[11:33]
Naphex	<<< spot on	[11:33]
Naphex	i only cover chrome for the most part, firefox got really left behind..	[11:34]
Naphex	i only cover chrome for the most part, firefox got really left behind..	[11:34]
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punkman	".gnupg/random_seed. A file used to preserve the state of the internal random pool." any clue what this thing is?	[11:49]
punkman	".gnupg/random_seed. A file used to preserve the state of the internal random pool." any clue what this thing is?	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	i discovered yest so did everyone, Naphex	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	i discovered yest so did everyone, Naphex	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	apparently chrome is taking over.	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	apparently chrome is taking over.	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	punkman seed for the internal prng iirc	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	punkman seed for the internal prng iirc	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	and in random eulora stuff, http://dianacoman.com/Eulora/map1.script << check out the awks!	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	and in random eulora stuff, http://dianacoman.com/Eulora/map1.script << check out the awks!	[11:49]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1M311LQ )	[11:49]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1M311LQ )	[11:49]
punkman	but why would I want to preserve this	[11:50]
punkman	but why would I want to preserve this	[11:50]
mircea_popescu	my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.	[11:50]
mircea_popescu	my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.	[11:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60205 @ 0.00049078 = 29.5474 BTC [+] {2}	[11:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60205 @ 0.00049078 = 29.5474 BTC [+] {2}	[11:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00049084 = 10.6512 BTC [+]	[11:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00049084 = 10.6512 BTC [+]	[11:55]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339629 << mno. preservation.	[12:05]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339629 << mno. preservation.	[12:05]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 14:48:29; mircea_popescu: my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.	[12:05]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 14:48:29; mircea_popescu: my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.	[12:05]
asciilifeform	gotta understand how, in a prng, the seed is the only genuine bit of entropy;	[12:05]
asciilifeform	gotta understand how, in a prng, the seed is the only genuine bit of entropy;	[12:05]
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mircea_popescu	aha.	[12:05]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[12:05]
asciilifeform	and how, where the state consists of solely how long the thing has been churning, naturally it stows a turd	[12:06]
asciilifeform	and how, where the state consists of solely how long the thing has been churning, naturally it stows a turd	[12:06]
asciilifeform	sorta how leporidae (e.g., rabbit) stores his half-digested food in edible turdlets	[12:06]
asciilifeform	sorta how leporidae (e.g., rabbit) stores his half-digested food in edible turdlets	[12:06]
asciilifeform	the design of gpg rng subsystem assumes extreme entropy-starvation. this is plain as daylight from 10 minutes of reading the src.	[12:07]
asciilifeform	the design of gpg rng subsystem assumes extreme entropy-starvation. this is plain as daylight from 10 minutes of reading the src.	[12:07]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339615 << kickstarturd	[12:20]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339615 << kickstarturd	[12:20]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 14:30:13; shinohai: http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/09/pine-a64-64-bit-4k-maker-board/ <<< nifty	[12:20]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 14:30:13; shinohai: http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/09/pine-a64-64-bit-4k-maker-board/ <<< nifty	[12:20]
asciilifeform	' Oh, and it starts from just $15 and is available to "pre-order" via Kickstarter right now.'	[12:21]
asciilifeform	' Oh, and it starts from just $15 and is available to "pre-order" via Kickstarter right now.'	[12:21]
asciilifeform	'PINE A64 includes a quad-core ARM Cortex A53 1.2GHz processor, dual-core Mali 400 MP2 graphics..' << aaaaaand dingdingdingding we get to the requires-closed-driver-turd-just-to-run item 10 seconds in.	[12:22]
asciilifeform	'PINE A64 includes a quad-core ARM Cortex A53 1.2GHz processor, dual-core Mali 400 MP2 graphics..' << aaaaaand dingdingdingding we get to the requires-closed-driver-turd-just-to-run item 10 seconds in.	[12:22]
asciilifeform	just like the samsung arm 'chromebook' gathering dust in my bookcase	[12:22]
asciilifeform	just like the samsung arm 'chromebook' gathering dust in my bookcase	[12:22]
asciilifeform	will happily run 'linux'	[12:22]
asciilifeform	will happily run 'linux'	[12:22]
asciilifeform	but not, of course, linux.	[12:22]
asciilifeform	but not, of course, linux.	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	heh	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	heh	[12:23]
*	asciilifeform wondered for some time why anyone would market a gpu chipset named for african pisshole	[12:24]
*	asciilifeform wondered for some time why anyone would market a gpu chipset named for african pisshole	[12:24]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24750 @ 0.00048451 = 11.9916 BTC [-] {2}	[12:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24750 @ 0.00048451 = 11.9916 BTC [-] {2}	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/107461376f815e227c81d6da9b7fce16/tumblr_ni02qz5D4W1td0y0yo1_1280.jpg	[12:33]
mircea_popescu	in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/107461376f815e227c81d6da9b7fce16/tumblr_ni02qz5D4W1td0y0yo1_1280.jpg	[12:33]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1REDYy5 )	[12:33]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1REDYy5 )	[12:33]
shinohai	not so nifty then	[12:36]
shinohai	not so nifty then	[12:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00049086 = 13.9404 BTC [+] {3}	[12:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00049086 = 13.9404 BTC [+] {3}	[12:37]
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deedbot-	[Trilema] Eulora as seen by Mircescu - http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-as-seen-by-mircescu/	[12:48]
deedbot-	[Trilema] Eulora as seen by Mircescu - http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-as-seen-by-mircescu/	[12:48]
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mircea_popescu	and in other weird news, http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2015/12/08/thousands-coffee-cans-wash-up-indialantic/76969680/	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	and in other weird news, http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2015/12/08/thousands-coffee-cans-wash-up-indialantic/76969680/	[13:14]
assbot	Coffee spill: Thousands of coffee cans wash up in Indialantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1lurGwk )	[13:14]
assbot	Coffee spill: Thousands of coffee cans wash up in Indialantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1lurGwk )	[13:14]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339455 << brings to mind the 16th-17th. c. idiots who pushed themselves as 'great alchemists', ended up taken captive by some lord who wanted phr33333 g0ld, and eventually guzzled lead on the public scaffold for charlatanry	[13:21]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 08:19:42; punkman: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-bitcoin-exclusive-idUSKBN0TS0AB20151209	[13:21]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339455 << brings to mind the 16th-17th. c. idiots who pushed themselves as 'great alchemists', ended up taken captive by some lord who wanted phr33333 g0ld, and eventually guzzled lead on the public scaffold for charlatanry	[13:21]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 08:19:42; punkman: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-bitcoin-exclusive-idUSKBN0TS0AB20151209	[13:21]
*	asciilifeform bbl.	[13:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14311 @ 0.00048902 = 6.9984 BTC [-] {2}	[14:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14311 @ 0.00048902 = 6.9984 BTC [-] {2}	[14:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18984 @ 0.00049153 = 9.3312 BTC [+] {2}	[14:05]
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punkman	https://twitter.com/anildash/status/674569165429174272	[14:18]
punkman	https://twitter.com/anildash/status/674569165429174272	[14:18]
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nubbins`	^ LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL	[14:27]
nubbins`	^ LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL	[14:27]
nubbins`	says he hasn't even listened to it yet	[14:34]
nubbins`	says he hasn't even listened to it yet	[14:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00048968 = 11.2871 BTC [-] {3}	[14:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00048968 = 11.2871 BTC [-] {3}	[14:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17071 @ 0.00049069 = 8.3766 BTC [+] {2}	[14:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17071 @ 0.00049069 = 8.3766 BTC [+] {2}	[14:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00048902 = 3.1542 BTC [-] {2}	[15:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00048902 = 3.1542 BTC [-] {2}	[15:03]
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thestringpuller	nubbins`: as they say CREAM	[15:10]
thestringpuller	nubbins`: as they say CREAM	[15:10]
ben_vulpes	https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines	[15:17]
ben_vulpes	https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines	[15:17]
assbot	WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )	[15:17]
assbot	WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )	[15:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.0004859 = 12.9978 BTC [-] {4}	[15:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.0004859 = 12.9978 BTC [-] {4}	[15:17]
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deedbot-	[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] In which Sam Biddle, Andy Cush, Andy Greenberg and Gwern Branwen fail to learn anything from the charred corpse of Leah McGrath Goodman, or how to tell if you’ve actually found Satoshi Nakamoto. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/09/in-which-sam-biddle-andy-cush-andy-greenberg-and-gwern-branwen-fail-to-learn-anything-from-the-charred-	[15:34]
deedbot-	[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] In which Sam Biddle, Andy Cush, Andy Greenberg and Gwern Branwen fail to learn anything from the charred corpse of Leah McGrath Goodman, or how to tell if you’ve actually found Satoshi Nakamoto. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/09/in-which-sam-biddle-andy-cush-andy-greenberg-and-gwern-branwen-fail-to-learn-anything-from-the-charred-	[15:34]
adlai	;;later tell pete_dushenski PGP signatures don't prove identities to people who don't trust the keys. repeated attempts to establish trust lines to satoshi's purported PGP key have failed	[15:44]
adlai	;;later tell pete_dushenski PGP signatures don't prove identities to people who don't trust the keys. repeated attempts to establish trust lines to satoshi's purported PGP key have failed	[15:44]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[15:44]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[15:44]
BingoBoingo	Satoshi's speshul because as alf says "has to move coins" to inspire faith in identity correspondence	[15:47]
BingoBoingo	Satoshi's speshul because as alf says "has to move coins" to inspire faith in identity correspondence	[15:47]
adlai	the best and trust-minimalest "proof-of-satoshi" is the (unspendable!) genesis coinbase	[15:47]
adlai	the best and trust-minimalest "proof-of-satoshi" is the (unspendable!) genesis coinbase	[15:47]
adlai	he could ECDSA sign a message saying "any further coinbases were mined by impostors, frauds, and early adopters, or all three simultaneously"	[15:49]
adlai	he could ECDSA sign a message saying "any further coinbases were mined by impostors, frauds, and early adopters, or all three simultaneously"	[15:49]
adlai	but this is just my opinion, and i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation	[15:49]
adlai	but this is just my opinion, and i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation	[15:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00049163 = 9.1689 BTC [+] {3}	[15:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00049163 = 9.1689 BTC [+] {3}	[15:54]
jurov	http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35025814 some are picking up coffee cans, some the real stuff	[16:20]
jurov	http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35025814 some are picking up coffee cans, some the real stuff	[16:20]
assbot	Austria boy finds euro banknotes in Danube in Vienna - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nc1a3K )	[16:20]
assbot	Austria boy finds euro banknotes in Danube in Vienna - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nc1a3K )	[16:20]
jurov	"i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation" orly?	[16:22]
jurov	"i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation" orly?	[16:22]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00049183 = 15.2959 BTC [+] {4}	[16:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00049183 = 15.2959 BTC [+] {4}	[16:35]
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ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339477 << anthro..pogenic?	[16:37]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339477 << anthro..pogenic?	[16:37]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 09:16:37; punkman: "anthropomorphic global warming"	[16:37]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 09:16:37; punkman: "anthropomorphic global warming"	[16:37]
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ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339493 << did you?	[16:38]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339493 << did you?	[16:38]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 09:44:52; adlai: moderator: "Oh so it can then be taxed as a currency and a commodity, and [Dr CSW] said, 'neither'" << clearly has not signed the pledge of allegiance yet	[16:38]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 09:44:52; adlai: moderator: "Oh so it can then be taxed as a currency and a commodity, and [Dr CSW] said, 'neither'" << clearly has not signed the pledge of allegiance yet	[16:38]
*	adlai subscribes to the pledge of "gimme eat"	[16:38]
*	adlai subscribes to the pledge of "gimme eat"	[16:38]
adlai	and if that's lost on you... well there are some classics that were written after marie lost her head	[16:39]
adlai	and if that's lost on you... well there are some classics that were written after marie lost her head	[16:39]
*	adlai has paid more "tax" than he'll "owe" in the next ~year, barring persistent s.mpoe trader idiocy	[16:40]
*	adlai has paid more "tax" than he'll "owe" in the next ~year, barring persistent s.mpoe trader idiocy	[16:40]
ben_vulpes	sooo bot thinger's not making any money because dumb opponents?	[16:41]
ben_vulpes	sooo bot thinger's not making any money because dumb opponents?	[16:41]
adlai	so far i must say, the humans have been surprisingly efficient	[16:41]
adlai	so far i must say, the humans have been surprisingly efficient	[16:41]
*	ben_vulpes is struggling to parse	[16:41]
*	ben_vulpes is struggling to parse	[16:41]
adlai	no, if opponents are too dumb, bot makes more money than i've paid tax to cover, and i pay some more tax.	[16:42]
adlai	no, if opponents are too dumb, bot makes more money than i've paid tax to cover, and i pay some more tax.	[16:42]
ben_vulpes	> barring	[16:42]
ben_vulpes	> barring	[16:42]
ben_vulpes	aha	[16:42]
ben_vulpes	aha	[16:42]
adlai	but "the whole ['opponents' thing] is a false dichotomy"	[16:42]
adlai	but "the whole ['opponents' thing] is a false dichotomy"	[16:42]
ben_vulpes	oh yes?	[16:42]
ben_vulpes	oh yes?	[16:42]
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ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh?	[16:44]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh?	[16:44]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends	[16:44]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends	[16:44]
adlai	positive-sum wonderlands do not involve carcass-treading; they are instead eaten in a feast, with portions rationed by participation; but "everybody has a share"	[16:45]
adlai	positive-sum wonderlands do not involve carcass-treading; they are instead eaten in a feast, with portions rationed by participation; but "everybody has a share"	[16:45]
jurov	ben_vulpes: mp is fine with api that can be accessed by curl (but dunno if xotika is the case)	[16:46]
jurov	ben_vulpes: mp is fine with api that can be accessed by curl (but dunno if xotika is the case)	[16:46]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323485	[16:47]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323485	[16:47]
assbot	Logged on 14-11-2015 02:25:48; mircea_popescu: seriously, let the dumbass tech kids get away with this stupid shit ?	[16:47]
assbot	Logged on 14-11-2015 02:25:48; mircea_popescu: seriously, let the dumbass tech kids get away with this stupid shit ?	[16:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00048739 = 14.6704 BTC [-] {2}	[16:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00048739 = 14.6704 BTC [-] {2}	[16:47]
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adlai	ben_vulpes: see, that guy just got a better price. i wouldn't call him an opponent.	[16:48]
adlai	ben_vulpes: see, that guy just got a better price. i wouldn't call him an opponent.	[16:48]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << implies it does, jurov	[16:48]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << implies it does, jurov	[16:48]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends	[16:48]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends	[16:48]
ben_vulpes	i see adlai	[16:48]
ben_vulpes	i see adlai	[16:48]
adlai	pls reread cited sections of 'congolese trading window'	[16:48]
adlai	pls reread cited sections of 'congolese trading window'	[16:48]
ben_vulpes	ah that	[16:49]
ben_vulpes	ah that	[16:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44946 @ 0.00048661 = 21.8712 BTC [-] {5}	[16:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44946 @ 0.00048661 = 21.8712 BTC [-] {5}	[16:55]
kakobrekla	spreading works, no also eating. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-12-03/how-dow-chemical-is-turning-sewage-into-a-refreshing-drink	[16:58]
kakobrekla	spreading works, no also eating. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-12-03/how-dow-chemical-is-turning-sewage-into-a-refreshing-drink	[16:58]
assbot	How Dow Chemical Is Turning Sewage Into a Refreshing Drink - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPKOEs )	[16:58]
assbot	How Dow Chemical Is Turning Sewage Into a Refreshing Drink - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPKOEs )	[16:58]
ben_vulpes	asked a potential hire "what do you know or believe that few people agree with you on"	[16:58]
ben_vulpes	asked a potential hire "what do you know or believe that few people agree with you on"	[16:58]
ben_vulpes	"cork is the sustainable bottle-stopper"	[16:59]
ben_vulpes	"cork is the sustainable bottle-stopper"	[16:59]
adlai	lol plastics	[16:59]
adlai	lol plastics	[16:59]
adlai	sorry, 'plastics'	[16:59]
adlai	sorry, 'plastics'	[16:59]
ben_vulpes	then followed a long explanation of the horseshit dow is putting into screw-top wine bottles and synthetic corks	[16:59]
ben_vulpes	then followed a long explanation of the horseshit dow is putting into screw-top wine bottles and synthetic corks	[16:59]
ben_vulpes	adlai: out of curiosity what's the difference between 'plastic' and plastic?	[17:00]
ben_vulpes	adlai: out of curiosity what's the difference between 'plastic' and plastic?	[17:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00048644 = 11.1881 BTC [-] {2}	[17:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00048644 = 11.1881 BTC [-] {2}	[17:01]
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adlai	;;search one word ben plastics	[17:01]
adlai	;;search one word ben plastics	[17:01]
gribble	(search ) -- Searches for in the current configuration variables.	[17:01]
gribble	(search ) -- Searches for in the current configuration variables.	[17:01]
adlai	;;google one word ben plastics	[17:01]
adlai	;;google one word ben plastics	[17:01]
gribble	The Graduate (1967) - Quotes - IMDb: ; The Graduate - Wikiquote: ; The Graduate "One Word: Plastics" - YouTube:	[17:01]
gribble	The Graduate (1967) - Quotes - IMDb: ; The Graduate - Wikiquote: ; The Graduate "One Word: Plastics" - YouTube:	[17:01]
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adlai	ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer	[17:03]
adlai	ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer	[17:03]
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nubbins`	yfw vexual is satoshi	[17:43]
nubbins`	yfw vexual is satoshi	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	amusingly, there's actually a trilema about that derp.	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	amusingly, there's actually a trilema about that derp.	[17:45]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/the-nigger-a-practical-exercise/	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/the-nigger-a-practical-exercise/	[17:45]
assbot	The nigger, a practical exercise. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiHJUu )	[17:45]
assbot	The nigger, a practical exercise. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiHJUu )	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines << they're talented folk. just, not at anything that correlates with survival.	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines << they're talented folk. just, not at anything that correlates with survival.	[17:48]
assbot	WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )	[17:48]
assbot	WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	or with interesting.	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	or with interesting.	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	ok, ok	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	ok, ok	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	!rated adlai	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	!rated adlai	[17:49]
assbot	You rated user adlai on 08-Nov-2015, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: As best as I can tell, the individual is either mentally retarded, or else expends significant mental power to emulate mental retardation..	[17:49]
assbot	You rated user adlai on 08-Nov-2015, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: As best as I can tell, the individual is either mentally retarded, or else expends significant mental power to emulate mental retardation..	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	!unrate adlai	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	!unrate adlai	[17:49]
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mircea_popescu	<< mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh? << this is hate speech.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	<< mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh? << this is hate speech.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer << yeah, it's a very good can.	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer << yeah, it's a very good can.	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	just add string.	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	just add string.	[18:00]
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BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field	[18:05]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339543 << r. gabriel was the 'worse is better' guy.	[18:06]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339543 << r. gabriel was the 'worse is better' guy.	[18:06]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 11:38:17; mircea_popescu: http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.	[18:06]
assbot	Logged on 09-12-2015 11:38:17; mircea_popescu: http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.	[18:06]
ascii_field	i once tried to read his other shit, and barfed	[18:07]
ascii_field	i once tried to read his other shit, and barfed	[18:07]
ascii_field	'poet'	[18:07]
ascii_field	'poet'	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	you don't really like ANY of the classics lispers do you.	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	you don't really like ANY of the classics lispers do you.	[18:07]
ascii_field	weinreb was ok before he went barmy and then died	[18:07]
ascii_field	weinreb was ok before he went barmy and then died	[18:07]
ascii_field	david moon was ok because he said nothing at all	[18:07]
ascii_field	david moon was ok because he said nothing at all	[18:07]
ascii_field	minsky wrote an entertaining b00k re: brain-as-multiorgan-system	[18:08]
ascii_field	minsky wrote an entertaining b00k re: brain-as-multiorgan-system	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	also not clearly from this planetg.	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	also not clearly from this planetg.	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	minsky's probably the more advanced work on theoretical neurology to date.	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	minsky's probably the more advanced work on theoretical neurology to date.	[18:08]
ascii_field	john mccarthy was spiffy all around	[18:08]
ascii_field	john mccarthy was spiffy all around	[18:08]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: aha	[18:08]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: aha	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	now, granted that clinical neurology is still the vastly more important thing, but anyway.	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	now, granted that clinical neurology is still the vastly more important thing, but anyway.	[18:09]
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BingoBoingo	Not rly.	[18:11]
BingoBoingo	Not rly.	[18:11]
ascii_field	https://cryptome.org/2015/12/xu-001.pdf <<<<>>>> http://dpaste.com/14E2BXY.txt < lulzy	[18:11]
ascii_field	https://cryptome.org/2015/12/xu-001.pdf <<<<>>>> http://dpaste.com/14E2BXY.txt < lulzy	[18:11]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1OiKyoP )	[18:11]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1OiKyoP )	[18:11]
BingoBoingo	theoretical neurology much more practical	[18:11]
BingoBoingo	theoretical neurology much more practical	[18:11]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1OiKwNu )	[18:11]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1OiKwNu )	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	unrelatedly, it occurs to me looking through tucker max's sad history past decade (random guy on the internet, thinks "he invented a literary genus" because wrote some bland, unoriginal "debauchery stories" ; burned out of that [the tucker max makes a movie in hollywood shit was pretty lulzy] then moved on to... being an investor! burned out of that, now writing advice books on how to be the perfect mate for some woman	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	) that he's very much a son of his country and a man of his age. there is still a very strong vein of "guide literature" from wild west in us fiction writing to this date.	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	unrelatedly, it occurs to me looking through tucker max's sad history past decade (random guy on the internet, thinks "he invented a literary genus" because wrote some bland, unoriginal "debauchery stories" ; burned out of that [the tucker max makes a movie in hollywood shit was pretty lulzy] then moved on to... being an investor! burned out of that, now writing advice books on how to be the perfect mate for some woman	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	) that he's very much a son of his country and a man of his age. there is still a very strong vein of "guide literature" from wild west in us fiction writing to this date.	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	it all really proceeds on the same great page of "i ain't got much lernin but i seen them buttes, here's how you too can get there!"	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	it all really proceeds on the same great page of "i ain't got much lernin but i seen them buttes, here's how you too can get there!"	[18:12]
ascii_field	recognizably aha	[18:12]
ascii_field	recognizably aha	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	very bizzare thing for civilised folk.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	very bizzare thing for civilised folk.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	i mean... this is what the village idiot would be in ro	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	i mean... this is what the village idiot would be in ro	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	and ru for that matter.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	and ru for that matter.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	but these are places that've been continuously inhabited for a while, where the space of possibilities has been a little more explored.	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	but these are places that've been continuously inhabited for a while, where the space of possibilities has been a little more explored.	[18:13]
ascii_field	earlier link features a chinese fella on trial for supposedly pinching a priceless!11111 filesystem driver from ibm	[18:13]
ascii_field	earlier link features a chinese fella on trial for supposedly pinching a priceless!11111 filesystem driver from ibm	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	fancy that. those exist ?	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	fancy that. those exist ?	[18:13]
ascii_field	cloud!11111	[18:14]
ascii_field	cloud!11111	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	oic.	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	oic.	[18:14]
ascii_field	and somehow a sting/entrapment op was in the mix, even	[18:14]
ascii_field	and somehow a sting/entrapment op was in the mix, even	[18:14]
ascii_field	classic usg, recommended reading for aficionados strictly.	[18:14]
ascii_field	classic usg, recommended reading for aficionados strictly.	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	by now i suppose the prosecuting attorney will suspect the case may not seem like a "real" case w/o one.	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	by now i suppose the prosecuting attorney will suspect the case may not seem like a "real" case w/o one.	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	notwithstanding that the premier indicator of not-real-case is exactly "sting!!11"	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	notwithstanding that the premier indicator of not-real-case is exactly "sting!!11"	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	anywya, it bears pointing out, to round the "us www guide fiction" thread, that the donner party was the unfortunate result of that typically american literary genus, the wild west guide fiction.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	anywya, it bears pointing out, to round the "us www guide fiction" thread, that the donner party was the unfortunate result of that typically american literary genus, the wild west guide fiction.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	not EXACTLY a tall tale, like the canadians got. crazier.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	not EXACTLY a tall tale, like the canadians got. crazier.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	in the pathological sense of crazier.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	in the pathological sense of crazier.	[18:16]
BingoBoingo	related http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2015/12/09/rafe_esquith_famous_teacher_accused_of_sexual_misconduct_and_inappropriate.html	[18:20]
BingoBoingo	related http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2015/12/09/rafe_esquith_famous_teacher_accused_of_sexual_misconduct_and_inappropriate.html	[18:20]
assbot	Rafe Esquith, famous teacher, accused of sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior in school by L.A. schools ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIdel )	[18:20]
assbot	Rafe Esquith, famous teacher, accused of sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior in school by L.A. schools ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIdel )	[18:20]
BingoBoingo	"perhaps the most decorated elementary-school teacher in the country, the only K-12 educator ever to receive the National Medal of the Arts—has been accused of sexual misconduct in shocking documents released Tuesday by Los Angeles Unified School District."	[18:21]
BingoBoingo	"perhaps the most decorated elementary-school teacher in the country, the only K-12 educator ever to receive the National Medal of the Arts—has been accused of sexual misconduct in shocking documents released Tuesday by Los Angeles Unified School District."	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	this is like being accused of "wrecking" in the other-us.	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	this is like being accused of "wrecking" in the other-us.	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	you're guaranteed to get it, the higher accomplished you are. it correlates with your visibility because the point, from the niggers' perspective, is exactly to try and make it a thing by sticking it to people.	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	you're guaranteed to get it, the higher accomplished you are. it correlates with your visibility because the point, from the niggers' perspective, is exactly to try and make it a thing by sticking it to people.	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	in this sense, if there's ANYONE that appears above, then that's someone above lenin. which they can't have. and so...	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	in this sense, if there's ANYONE that appears above, then that's someone above lenin. which they can't have. and so...	[18:22]
ascii_field	'c.	[18:23]
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ascii_field	replied.	[18:23]
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mircea_popescu	dem buffers.	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	dem buffers.	[18:24]
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adlai	ahmed_ alphonse23__ amiller Anduck Apocalyptic artifexd ascii_field asciilifeform asoltys assbot Azelphur	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	!up ascii_field	[18:26]
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-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[18:26]
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ascii_field	ty for cutting the wire in time.	[18:26]
ascii_field	ty for cutting the wire in time.	[18:26]
ascii_field	http://dpaste.com/2016J0Z.txt << the intended turdlet.	[18:27]
ascii_field	http://dpaste.com/2016J0Z.txt << the intended turdlet.	[18:27]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1QwISfN )	[18:27]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1QwISfN )	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	https://arenavc.com/2015/07/airbnb-my-1-billion-lesson/ << maybe interesting. since i'm going through all this idiocy, might as well.	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	https://arenavc.com/2015/07/airbnb-my-1-billion-lesson/ << maybe interesting. since i'm going through all this idiocy, might as well.	[18:27]
assbot	Airbnb, My $1 Billion Lesson - by Paige Craig ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIVbF )	[18:27]
assbot	Airbnb, My $1 Billion Lesson - by Paige Craig ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIVbF )	[18:27]
ascii_field	http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/gender_critical_trans_women_the_apostates_of_the_trans_rights_movement.html << from earlier fishwrap	[18:30]
ascii_field	http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/gender_critical_trans_women_the_apostates_of_the_trans_rights_movement.html << from earlier fishwrap	[18:30]
assbot	Gender critical trans women: The apostates of the trans rights movement. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiMJbH )	[18:30]
assbot	Gender critical trans women: The apostates of the trans rights movement. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiMJbH )	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	yaya im sure.	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	yaya im sure.	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	the funny skit in that paige craig piece being that if paul graham and his merry band of spammers & conmen hadn't "invested", the thing would be worth tgoday what it it;'s been worth throughout : four digits in someone's shitty excel.	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	the funny skit in that paige craig piece being that if paul graham and his merry band of spammers & conmen hadn't "invested", the thing would be worth tgoday what it it;'s been worth throughout : four digits in someone's shitty excel.	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	derp wants to think that hey, this is how i got bumped out of a great deal	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	derp wants to think that hey, this is how i got bumped out of a great deal	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	what happened in fact however's a lot closer to http://trilema.com/2014/you-cannot-fix-a-machine-by-just-power-cycling-it-with-no-understanding-of-what-is-going-wrong/#selection-195.0-201.188	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	what happened in fact however's a lot closer to http://trilema.com/2014/you-cannot-fix-a-machine-by-just-power-cycling-it-with-no-understanding-of-what-is-going-wrong/#selection-195.0-201.188	[18:35]
assbot	"You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwJDpi )	[18:35]
assbot	"You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwJDpi )	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	"Airbnb has of course gone on to execute exceptionally well and become what it is today."	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	"Airbnb has of course gone on to execute exceptionally well and become what it is today."	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	they executed... nothing.	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	they executed... nothing.	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	or if you will, they executed what groupon executed : a maddof in the background, in this case named graham, scammed some old ladies and wrote the details in a notebook bearing this title	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	or if you will, they executed what groupon executed : a maddof in the background, in this case named graham, scammed some old ladies and wrote the details in a notebook bearing this title	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	i suppose this matters to some, what the title is.	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	i suppose this matters to some, what the title is.	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	yet the guy's own conclusion, in his own terms ?	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	yet the guy's own conclusion, in his own terms ?	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	"Losing a deal like Airbnb can be painful. Great lessons came from the rejection at the very end, however. After getting the cold shoulder, I realized I needed to go out and build some valuable knowledge, needed a more robust network, and needed to craft my own brand as an investor.	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	When I found Airbnb I was a nobody in the investing world, but I spent the next year afterward traveling around the US meeting founders and investors. I attended and hosted several dozen events and I talked to just about everybody in tech I could. I read voraciously and learned as much as possible from one-on-one conversations. I put in a full year of hard work before I did my next deal."	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	"Losing a deal like Airbnb can be painful. Great lessons came from the rejection at the very end, however. After getting the cold shoulder, I realized I needed to go out and build some valuable knowledge, needed a more robust network, and needed to craft my own brand as an investor.	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	When I found Airbnb I was a nobody in the investing world, but I spent the next year afterward traveling around the US meeting founders and investors. I attended and hosted several dozen events and I talked to just about everybody in tech I could. I read voraciously and learned as much as possible from one-on-one conversations. I put in a full year of hard work before I did my next deal."	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	30 iq part of brain engaged.	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	30 iq part of brain engaged.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	i'm sure "building his brand as an investor" is going to do exactly what "building her brand as an relationship expert" did for tlp's fave gori lottlieb. or whatever it was.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	i'm sure "building his brand as an investor" is going to do exactly what "building her brand as an relationship expert" did for tlp's fave gori lottlieb. or whatever it was.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	it's not like yc will be displaced by b-a, it's like his derpy www-persona has a chance and all that.	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	it's not like yc will be displaced by b-a, it's like his derpy www-persona has a chance and all that.	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	wuuut evars.	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	wuuut evars.	[18:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00048644 = 8.3181 BTC [-] {2}	[18:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00048644 = 8.3181 BTC [-] {2}	[18:43]
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mircea_popescu	heh. check this shit out "Not all investors are created equal. The winners are persistently the same relatively small groups of investors time after time. Success not only has positive signaling effects in attracting the factors that drive success, but also talent enhancing effects for the venture capitalists themselves." << now why exactly would this be ? successful sicentists aren't "always the same small group time	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	after time". senators however are.	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	heh. check this shit out "Not all investors are created equal. The winners are persistently the same relatively small groups of investors time after time. Success not only has positive signaling effects in attracting the factors that drive success, but also talent enhancing effects for the venture capitalists themselves." << now why exactly would this be ? successful sicentists aren't "always the same small group time	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	after time". senators however are.	[18:44]
BingoBoingo	http://journals.ama.org/doi/10.1509/jppm.14.020	[18:44]
BingoBoingo	http://journals.ama.org/doi/10.1509/jppm.14.020	[18:44]
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mircea_popescu	poor assbot	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	poor assbot	[18:45]
shinohai	Here's some ass to cheer you up, assbot https://i.imgur.com/pk2nE7W.webm	[18:46]
shinohai	Here's some ass to cheer you up, assbot https://i.imgur.com/pk2nE7W.webm	[18:46]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKNBa )	[18:46]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKNBa )	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2010/vladimir-oane-iz-meleonare/#selection-81.0-85.15 << if gabriel radio feels like translating ancient pieces on "venture capital" a la roumaine.	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2010/vladimir-oane-iz-meleonare/#selection-81.0-85.15 << if gabriel radio feels like translating ancient pieces on "venture capital" a la roumaine.	[18:46]
assbot	Vladimir Oane iz Meleonare!!! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKOoD )	[18:46]
assbot	Vladimir Oane iz Meleonare!!! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKOoD )	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	of course that shit exists. it's about as lulzy an affair as "romanian press" or whatever, "romanian secret services caught romanian isis agent"	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	of course that shit exists. it's about as lulzy an affair as "romanian press" or whatever, "romanian secret services caught romanian isis agent"	[18:47]
ascii_field	'soviet elephants are world's biggest elephants!111'	[18:47]
ascii_field	'soviet elephants are world's biggest elephants!111'	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	im sure there's also a paris, kentucky vc scene.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	im sure there's also a paris, kentucky vc scene.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	guys at the local bar, you know, watching shark tank on tv...	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	guys at the local bar, you know, watching shark tank on tv...	[18:47]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: mega-s33kr1t: not all usian software firms are in sv..	[18:48]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: mega-s33kr1t: not all usian software firms are in sv..	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	"La 27 de ani, Vladimir Oane a riscat şi a reuşit. În doi ani, a pus pe picioare o afacere prin care monitorizează diverse reţele şi oferă statistici marilor branduri. Contractele au început să curgă." <<< for the lulz. romanian "airbnb could buy all of russia" thing.	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	"La 27 de ani, Vladimir Oane a riscat şi a reuşit. În doi ani, a pus pe picioare o afacere prin care monitorizează diverse reţele şi oferă statistici marilor branduri. Contractele au început să curgă." <<< for the lulz. romanian "airbnb could buy all of russia" thing.	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field do not take the name of the dwwweb in vane!	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field do not take the name of the dwwweb in vane!	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	if it isn't in scamicon valley THEN ITS NOT REALLY TECHNOLOGY	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	if it isn't in scamicon valley THEN ITS NOT REALLY TECHNOLOGY	[18:49]
ascii_field	aaaha.	[18:49]
ascii_field	aaaha.	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	if it were it'd spend its capital on aeron chairs.	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	if it were it'd spend its capital on aeron chairs.	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	like "real" technologies.	[18:49]
*	ascii_field has never even been there as a tourist. oughta go some day.	[18:49]
*	ascii_field has never even been there as a tourist. oughta go some day.	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	like "real" technologies.	[18:49]
ascii_field	before it drowns.	[18:49]
ascii_field	before it drowns.	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	from what i hear from the locals it used to be great	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	from what i hear from the locals it used to be great	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	back before all the midwestern carrie-bradshaw-wannabes showed up	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	back before all the midwestern carrie-bradshaw-wannabes showed up	[18:49]
ascii_field	phun phakt: at the u.s. army derpery where i once worked, aerons were MANDATORY	[18:49]
ascii_field	phun phakt: at the u.s. army derpery where i once worked, aerons were MANDATORY	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	i guess just like new york in the 50s	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	i guess just like new york in the 50s	[18:50]
*	BingoBoingo hasn't been to Paris, Kentucky either	[18:50]
*	BingoBoingo hasn't been to Paris, Kentucky either	[18:50]
ascii_field	and i had a forbidden cloth-backed chair that had to be hidden during inspections	[18:50]
ascii_field	and i had a forbidden cloth-backed chair that had to be hidden during inspections	[18:50]
ascii_field	fire code, you see.	[18:50]
ascii_field	fire code, you see.	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	heh	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	heh	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	i thought aerons are thread or some shit	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	i thought aerons are thread or some shit	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	;;google paris, kentucky	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	;;google paris, kentucky	[18:51]
gribble	City of Paris - Home: ; Paris, Kentucky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Paris-Bourbon County Tourism:	[18:51]
gribble	City of Paris - Home: ; Paris, Kentucky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Paris-Bourbon County Tourism:	[18:51]
ascii_field	rubberized mesh	[18:51]
ascii_field	rubberized mesh	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	now you have, BingoBoingo	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	now you have, BingoBoingo	[18:51]
*	ascii_field turned down a few sv gigs recently	[18:51]
*	ascii_field turned down a few sv gigs recently	[18:51]
BingoBoingo	lol	[18:51]
BingoBoingo	lol	[18:51]
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mircea_popescu	oh i see, it wouldn't be "real" top quality if it weren't shit.	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	oh i see, it wouldn't be "real" top quality if it weren't shit.	[18:51]
ascii_field	it was actually ok, didn't fall apart like every chair i've ever owned at home	[18:52]
ascii_field	it was actually ok, didn't fall apart like every chair i've ever owned at home	[18:52]
ascii_field	(in 3+ yrs of arse time)	[18:52]
ascii_field	(in 3+ yrs of arse time)	[18:52]
ascii_field	and had reasonably good pneumatics, that didn't leak air	[18:52]
ascii_field	and had reasonably good pneumatics, that didn't leak air	[18:52]
ascii_field	iirc they're about 800 usd.	[18:53]
ascii_field	iirc they're about 800 usd.	[18:53]
ascii_field	sold by herman miller furniture co.	[18:53]
ascii_field	sold by herman miller furniture co.	[18:53]
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BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field	[18:58]
BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field	[18:58]
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nubbins`	for those who are interested in matters of pedigree, i just sold a casascius coin and the buyer paid an additional 1btc to have the pgp chain of custody extended	[19:00]
nubbins`	for those who are interested in matters of pedigree, i just sold a casascius coin and the buyer paid an additional 1btc to have the pgp chain of custody extended	[19:00]
nubbins`	i expect this to be the minimum going forward	[19:00]
nubbins`	i expect this to be the minimum going forward	[19:00]
ascii_field	nubbins`: do you remember the thread where i described how to trivially rape such a coin ?	[19:01]
ascii_field	nubbins`: do you remember the thread where i described how to trivially rape such a coin ?	[19:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00049214 = 6.3732 BTC [+] {3}	[19:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00049214 = 6.3732 BTC [+] {3}	[19:01]
nubbins`	i recall a discussion in which it was posited that a device to read private key would be easy enough to make	[19:03]
nubbins`	i recall a discussion in which it was posited that a device to read private key would be easy enough to make	[19:03]
ascii_field	aha.	[19:04]
ascii_field	aha.	[19:04]
nubbins`	the holo stickers for the 1btc silvers were too large for the space on the coin & tended to lift at the edges, making for very easy solvent insertion -- most stickers were then burned around the rim with a laser to make a fried-on messy ring that allowed the sticker to lay flatter and ostensibly would reveal tampering more easily (they still flaked, saw it with mine own)	[19:05]
nubbins`	the holo stickers for the 1btc silvers were too large for the space on the coin & tended to lift at the edges, making for very easy solvent insertion -- most stickers were then burned around the rim with a laser to make a fried-on messy ring that allowed the sticker to lay flatter and ostensibly would reveal tampering more easily (they still flaked, saw it with mine own)	[19:05]
ascii_field	and you don't even need to remove the sticker.	[19:05]
ascii_field	and you don't even need to remove the sticker.	[19:05]
nubbins`	nope	[19:06]
nubbins`	nope	[19:06]
ascii_field	or physically alter the thing, or the coin, in any way.	[19:06]
ascii_field	or physically alter the thing, or the coin, in any way.	[19:06]
nubbins`	today, for the first time outside of casascius' blog, i see a photo of an un-lasered sticker in an auction on the gooftalk forum	[19:06]
nubbins`	today, for the first time outside of casascius' blog, i see a photo of an un-lasered sticker in an auction on the gooftalk forum	[19:06]
nubbins`	http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/12/09/PC090015.jpg	[19:07]
nubbins`	http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/12/09/PC090015.jpg	[19:07]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1QwMxu4 )	[19:07]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1QwMxu4 )	[19:07]
nubbins`	shadows, even!	[19:07]
nubbins`	shadows, even!	[19:07]
nubbins`	anyway, i figure counterfeits are a much more common issue going forward	[19:10]
nubbins`	anyway, i figure counterfeits are a much more common issue going forward	[19:10]
nubbins`	i've only seen poor quality ones in the wild so far	[19:10]
nubbins`	i've only seen poor quality ones in the wild so far	[19:10]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17215 @ 0.00048582 = 8.3634 BTC [-] {4}	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	(they still flaked, saw it with mine own) << there's a reason thermosensors are made out of two different materials stuck to each other. that reason is that this problem of geometric affixing is INCREDIBLY hard.	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	(they still flaked, saw it with mine own) << there's a reason thermosensors are made out of two different materials stuck to each other. that reason is that this problem of geometric affixing is INCREDIBLY hard.	[19:17]
ascii_field	aha!	[19:18]
ascii_field	aha!	[19:18]
ascii_field	check out glass-to-metal bonds sometime	[19:18]
ascii_field	check out glass-to-metal bonds sometime	[19:18]
ascii_field	can spend a lifetime on just that.	[19:18]
ascii_field	can spend a lifetime on just that.	[19:18]
ascii_field	(was a mega-issue in vacuum valve manufacture)	[19:18]
ascii_field	(was a mega-issue in vacuum valve manufacture)	[19:18]
ascii_field	all of this will have to be re-discovered.	[19:18]
ascii_field	all of this will have to be re-discovered.	[19:18]
ascii_field	j. strong's 'methods of experimental physics' covers the basics; the whole b00k is somewhere w4r3z3d in the logz.	[19:19]
ascii_field	j. strong's 'methods of experimental physics' covers the basics; the whole b00k is somewhere w4r3z3d in the logz.	[19:19]
mircea_popescu	yup	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	yup	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	and temperature envelopes are always a thing	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	and temperature envelopes are always a thing	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	you won't ever have a "for all temperatures" bond.	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	you won't ever have a "for all temperatures" bond.	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	(which is why the way to get chewing gum out of stuff is to deepfreeze the stuff)	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	(which is why the way to get chewing gum out of stuff is to deepfreeze the stuff)	[19:21]
ascii_field	aha	[19:21]
ascii_field	aha	[19:21]
ascii_field	nor will you, other than at some considerable expense and choice of constrained envelope - have a linear one.	[19:22]
ascii_field	nor will you, other than at some considerable expense and choice of constrained envelope - have a linear one.	[19:22]
BingoBoingo	http://gotnews.com/6065-2/	[19:27]
BingoBoingo	http://gotnews.com/6065-2/	[19:27]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00003.html	[19:28]
BingoBoingo	http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00003.html	[19:28]
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assbot	MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y39xl2 )	[19:28]
assbot	MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y39xl2 )	[19:28]
*	assbot gives voice to ascii_field	[19:28]
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ascii_field	'Twitter is a natural monopoly. Outrageous Chuck Johnson is still banned after all this time. They're showing why they need to be regulated.'	[19:28]
ascii_field	'Twitter is a natural monopoly. Outrageous Chuck Johnson is still banned after all this time. They're showing why they need to be regulated.'	[19:28]
ascii_field	mega-l0l	[19:28]
ascii_field	mega-l0l	[19:28]
BingoBoingo	lol	[19:29]
BingoBoingo	lol	[19:29]
ascii_field	it's a public utility now!1111	[19:29]
ascii_field	it's a public utility now!1111	[19:29]
BingoBoingo	for srs	[19:30]
BingoBoingo	for srs	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo what other is the purpose of facebook ?	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo what other is the purpose of facebook ?	[19:34]
BingoBoingo	I have no idea	[19:35]
BingoBoingo	I have no idea	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	sounds a lot like the story of the man upset that he went to the brothel, and they touched him in a sexually suggestive manner.	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	sounds a lot like the story of the man upset that he went to the brothel, and they touched him in a sexually suggestive manner.	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	in other news, trilema used to have a fb and a twitter where some webapp (that no doubt is a great success) dumped the rss	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	in other news, trilema used to have a fb and a twitter where some webapp (that no doubt is a great success) dumped the rss	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	i see the facebook feed's dead, but can't be arsed to look into it	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	i see the facebook feed's dead, but can't be arsed to look into it	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	about me "i found my first security holes in 1987" sooo... she's 30 ?	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	about me "i found my first security holes in 1987" sooo... she's 30 ?	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	otherwise, who's chuck johnson and what's gotnews.com	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	otherwise, who's chuck johnson and what's gotnews.com	[19:38]
BingoBoingo	He's the derp who is somewhat aligned with weev	[19:39]
BingoBoingo	He's the derp who is somewhat aligned with weev	[19:39]
mircea_popescu	https://arenavc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/airbnb_2nd_budget.png << best lulz. srsly, this is why they need excel ?	[19:39]
mircea_popescu	https://arenavc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/airbnb_2nd_budget.png << best lulz. srsly, this is why they need excel ?	[19:39]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b36I )	[19:39]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b36I )	[19:39]
ascii_field	http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00035.html << win	[19:39]
ascii_field	http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00035.html << win	[19:39]
assbot	MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b3na )	[19:39]
assbot	MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b3na )	[19:39]
BingoBoingo	Johnson has occasonal moments of lucidity, but otherwise seems to largely have been caught up in the otherside of USG propaganda machine	[19:39]
BingoBoingo	Johnson has occasonal moments of lucidity, but otherwise seems to largely have been caught up in the otherside of USG propaganda machine	[19:39]
ascii_field	incidentally, how do folks actually pronounce 'airbnb' ?	[19:39]
ascii_field	incidentally, how do folks actually pronounce 'airbnb' ?	[19:39]
ascii_field	i always say 'airbnob'	[19:40]
ascii_field	i always say 'airbnob'	[19:40]
ascii_field	(as in door knob)	[19:40]
ascii_field	(as in door knob)	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	http://gawker.com/what-is-chuck-johnson-and-why-the-web-s-worst-journal-1666834902 << gawker has a story on some twitter brigading or w/e.	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	http://gawker.com/what-is-chuck-johnson-and-why-the-web-s-worst-journal-1666834902 << gawker has a story on some twitter brigading or w/e.	[19:40]
assbot	What Is Chuck Johnson, and Why? The Web’s Worst Journalist, Explained ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b5vx )	[19:40]
assbot	What Is Chuck Johnson, and Why? The Web’s Worst Journalist, Explained ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b5vx )	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	still unsure why anyone'd give a shit. twitter ? wut ?	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	still unsure why anyone'd give a shit. twitter ? wut ?	[19:40]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field iirc they were something like averypoorlynamedbedandbreakfast.com originally	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field iirc they were something like averypoorlynamedbedandbreakfast.com originally	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	could perhaps just read it out.	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	could perhaps just read it out.	[19:41]
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mircea_popescu	"It’s not just Johnson’s attitude toward people of color who’ve been victimized by cops. Johnson in general likes to retaliate against certain individuals by publishing their personal information (a.k.a. doxxing). A recent example: After the New York Times published a copy of former Ferguson cop Darren Wilson’s marriage certificate, and named the street on which he used to live, Johnson published the home addre	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	sses—down to the house and apartment numbers—of the pair of reporters who authored the Times story. The headline read: “Why Can’t We Publish Addresses Of New York Times Reporters?”"	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	"It’s not just Johnson’s attitude toward people of color who’ve been victimized by cops. Johnson in general likes to retaliate against certain individuals by publishing their personal information (a.k.a. doxxing). A recent example: After the New York Times published a copy of former Ferguson cop Darren Wilson’s marriage certificate, and named the street on which he used to live, Johnson published the home addre	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	sses—down to the house and apartment numbers—of the pair of reporters who authored the Times story. The headline read: “Why Can’t We Publish Addresses Of New York Times Reporters?”"	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	awwww.	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	awwww.	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	doubleplusbad.	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	doubleplusbad.	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	how to get the leahs all bothered up - take their online anonimity away.	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	how to get the leahs all bothered up - take their online anonimity away.	[19:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30968 @ 0.0004924 = 15.2486 BTC [+] {4}	[19:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30968 @ 0.0004924 = 15.2486 BTC [+] {4}	[19:46]
ascii_field	i still don't get why they care	[19:46]
ascii_field	i still don't get why they care	[19:46]
ascii_field	what happens when the address is posted? dump trucks full of shit show up ?	[19:47]
ascii_field	what happens when the address is posted? dump trucks full of shit show up ?	[19:47]
ascii_field	anyone with fiddybux can find out, e.g., where i live	[19:47]
ascii_field	anyone with fiddybux can find out, e.g., where i live	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	it's a mental issue.	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	it's a mental issue.	[19:47]
ascii_field	so far not even broken window.	[19:47]
ascii_field	so far not even broken window.	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	they don't want to be what they are. that's not their real self.	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	they don't want to be what they are. that's not their real self.	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	you can readily verify this by, for instance, asking "rape" victim if she got wet during the events.	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	you can readily verify this by, for instance, asking "rape" victim if she got wet during the events.	[19:48]
ascii_field	and 'real self' is... what? napoleon ?	[19:48]
ascii_field	and 'real self' is... what? napoleon ?	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	the physical world BETRAYS THE SACRED DREAMS OF SOCIALISM	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	the physical world BETRAYS THE SACRED DREAMS OF SOCIALISM	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	"Far more noteworthy than any of Johnson’s journalism stunts, however, is his intellectual pedigree.	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	What do you mean?	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	Johnson’s isn’t really a marginal or peripheral figure in mainstream conservatism"	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	"Far more noteworthy than any of Johnson’s journalism stunts, however, is his intellectual pedigree.	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	What do you mean?	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	Johnson’s isn’t really a marginal or peripheral figure in mainstream conservatism"	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	this bit is golden. 26 yo derp is a figure, of any kind ?	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	this bit is golden. 26 yo derp is a figure, of any kind ?	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	what is this shit!	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	what is this shit!	[19:49]
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BingoBoingo	Also in Australia http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/death-of-obese-daughter-spurs-heartbroken-parents-to-help-another-teenager/news-story/eb71cfcc0fbb1dd3e78ebb1798fd0ba2	[20:12]
assbot	Eating disorders: Death of obese daughter spurs heartbroken parents to help another teenager ... ( http://bit.ly/1OROZeK )	[20:12]
BingoBoingo	254 kilograms	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	some help.	[20:13]
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mircea_popescu	some help.	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/01/sorry-chuck-todd-but-reporters-are-not-the-referees-of-politics/ << somewhat lulzy.	[20:18]
assbot	Sorry, Chuck Todd, But Reporters Aren't The Referees Of Politics ... ( http://bit.ly/1ORPWDK )	[20:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7781 @ 0.00049375 = 3.8419 BTC [+]	[20:25]
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BingoBoingo	!up BashCo	[20:41]
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BashCo	Thanks BingoBoingo. Hi folks.	[20:42]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 5.12854330 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin Network Hits 1 Exahash - http://bitbet.us/bet/1228/bitcoin-network-hits-1-exahash/#b11	[20:46]
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nubbins`	there's a guy selling one of Carl Mark Force IV's business cards	[21:47]
nubbins`	lewell	[21:47]
asciilifeform	h0ly relic ?	[21:47]
nubbins`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1281571.0	[21:47]
nubbins`	asciilifeform +1, it's even gilded.	[21:47]
nubbins`	this is almost as impressive as my genesis-block copy of the times	[21:48]
*	danielpbarron has a collection of business cards	[21:59]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu's card is neat	[22:00]
nubbins`	my card is neat	[22:02]
nubbins`	hand-printed on test print paper	[22:02]
nubbins`	each one yooneek!	[22:02]
asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/a/G0SsJ << l0ls from the st00ge	[22:04]
assbot	Alleged Satoshi Twitter Posts - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU3xc4 )	[22:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18739 @ 0.00048243 = 9.0403 BTC [-]	[22:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19611 @ 0.00048052 = 9.4235 BTC [-] {2}	[22:06]
nubbins`	fuckin wanker	[22:06]
nubbins`	we should try to get martin shkreli in here	[22:06]
asciilifeform	meanwhile, the power rangerz declare that signature checking is to be done away with. ( https://news.bitcoin.com/segregated-witness-concept-turning-point-bitcoin )	[22:08]
assbot	The Segregated Witness Concept: A 'Turning Point' for Bitcoin? - Bitcoin News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HVFVnN )	[22:08]
asciilifeform	because...	[22:08]
asciilifeform	because shuddup terror15t	[22:08]
asciilifeform	or something.	[22:08]
thestringpuller	it's gonna be ugly	[22:10]
asciilifeform	imbeciles are free to spawn altcoinz, and even to trade in their genuine coin for them, no prob.	[22:11]
BingoBoingo	Another one of these http://hackaday.com/2015/12/09/echo-of-the-bunnymen-how-amd-won-then-lost/	[22:12]
assbot	Echo of the Bunnymen: How AMD Won, Then Lost \| Hackaday ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU425T )	[22:12]
thestringpuller	asciilifeform: i wonder why everyone wants to spam the blockchain so badly	[22:12]
thestringpuller	this whole notion of 7 billion people transacting daily seems...fucktarded	[22:13]
asciilifeform	'From 2003 until 2006, Intel paid $1 Billion to Dell in exchange not to ship any computers using CPUs made by AMD. Intel held OEMs ransom, encouraging them to only ship Intel CPUs by way of volume discounts and threatening OEMs with low-priority during CPU shortages. Intel engaged in false advertising, and misrepresenting benchmark results. '	[22:13]
thestringpuller	I've sent 3 transactions this year alone.	[22:13]
asciilifeform	^ intel & microshit, one is nothing without the other	[22:13]
asciilifeform	'Intel does much more than just silicon. Hidden inside their design centers are the keepers of x86, and this includes the people who write the compilers for x86 processors.' << while there is in fact an intel compiler, the article is here revealed as catastrophically braindamaged	[22:14]
asciilifeform	'Permanently disabling AMD CPUs through compiler optimizations ensured AMD would not quickly retake this market share.' << wtf	[22:15]
asciilifeform	NOBODY USES INTEL'S COMPILER	[22:15]
asciilifeform	except for a few fortranistas	[22:15]
BingoBoingo	Prolly Red Hat built their GCC with Intel compiler	[22:16]
thestringpuller	i didn't know anyone still used fortran	[22:16]
BingoBoingo	Fortran is great for WWW backends	[22:17]
nubbins`	o.O	[22:17]
thestringpuller	i thought you had to be 50 or older to use it	[22:17]
asciilifeform	thestringpuller: it remains ubiquitous in the number-cruncher community	[22:17]
thestringpuller	yea if you have gray hair	[22:17]
nubbins`	you see some bizarre shit in industry	[22:17]
nubbins`	i worked at a company that does ~$1bn in annual revenue, all back-end is accessed via RPG IV	[22:17]
nubbins`	("what's that?" exactly)	[22:18]
thestringpuller	IBM RPG....i haven't heard that in a loooong time.	[22:18]
nubbins`	still exists	[22:19]
nubbins`	the company literally had to get a local college to offer a course in it, and they sent an employee over to teach it	[22:19]
asciilifeform	the closest thing i know of to a 'puzzle' esolang that is actually used in industry is...	[22:20]
asciilifeform	mumps.	[22:20]
asciilifeform	as seen here, http://thedailywtf.com/articles/A_Case_of_the_MUMPS	[22:21]
assbot	A Case of the MUMPS - The Daily WTF ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU4yRn )	[22:21]
thestringpuller	this is the only esolang I've used: http://esolangs.org/wiki/chef	[22:21]
asciilifeform	'The primary design goal MUMPS was to create code that, once written, can never be maintained by anyone ever again. The syntax is somewhat reminiscent of FORTRAN and SNOBOL (no, not the toilet cleaner), only much, much worse. Ironically, being inflicted with mumps (the disease) is much more pleasant that actually working with MUMPS (the language). A more apt name for the language certainly would have been EXPLOSIVE-DIARRHEA; I	[22:21]
asciilifeform	’m sure they could have even worked SNOBOL (the language, or, heck, even the toilet cleaner) in there as well.'	[22:21]
asciilifeform	^ not an entirely unfair description	[22:22]
asciilifeform	but, interestingly,	[22:22]
asciilifeform	around the time this article was written, i sat down and learned the language	[22:22]
asciilifeform	(for a potential gig that never went through)	[22:22]
asciilifeform	and found it to be quite a pleasant thing, in its own way	[22:22]
nubbins`	"OPERATORS: No precedence, executed left to right, parenthesize as desired. 2+3*10 yields 50."	[22:22]
asciilifeform	in the msdos-and-fuck-you way.	[22:23]
nubbins`	poor bryan	[22:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41241 @ 0.00049391 = 20.3693 BTC [+]	[22:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7459 @ 0.00049414 = 3.6858 BTC [+]	[22:53]
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mircea_popescu	imbeciles are free to spawn altcoinz, and even to trade in their genuine coin for them, no prob. <<< kinda how socialism works.	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	revolutionize the things, end up trading your vaginal virginity for a pair of jeans	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	and teh anal, for some tp.	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	NOBODY USES INTEL'S COMPILER << mediatards, whats they know.	[23:10]
asciilifeform	it was ridiculous the first time the thing popped up	[23:11]
asciilifeform	in, when... 2006 ?	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	the company literally had to get a local college to offer a course in it, and they sent an employee over to teach it << this is how it should work, actually. all the OTHER courses should be discontinued, pretty much.	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform something like that	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	"OPERATORS: No precedence, executed left to right, parenthesize as desired. 2+3*10 yields 50." <<< imo this is the symptom of a badly written assembler or w/e the thing is.	[23:14]
asciilifeform	hey strict ll(1) parser	[23:15]
asciilifeform	simplicity!	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	except by the time you're done with paranthesizing it's no longer simple.	[23:19]
asciilifeform	what parenthesizing.	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	in fact the reason precedence even exists is because it's a schelling point for lazy.	[23:19]
asciilifeform	eat one by one.	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	well suppose i don't want 2+3*10 to yield 50	[23:19]
asciilifeform	rpn solves this.	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	i guess.	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	note that if they were sane they'd have said THAT.	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	the fact that they don't makes me... a little wary.	[23:26]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all --currency eur	[23:38]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 376.670799, vol: 19128.54633847 \| BTC-E BTCEUR last: 378.431, vol: 115.7018 \| CampBX BTCEUR last: 381.402, vol: 13.52976722 \| BTCChina BTCEUR last: 386.30358, vol: 240304.83800000 \| Kraken BTCEUR last: 376.70777, vol: 10647.775584 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 384.89, vol: 172.91386498 \| Volume-weighted last average: 385.23969499	[23:38]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[23:38]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 414.79, vol: 19128.54633847 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 412.147, vol: 15552.7705 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 417.1, vol: 47160.63996846 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 13.52976722 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 425.374866, vol: 240300.28560000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 412.7, vol: 289.42946321 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 423.76389, vol: 172.91386498 \| Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)	[23:38]
BingoBoingo	;;more	[23:38]
gribble	422.887495447	[23:38]
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