Forum logs for 08 Oct 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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dexX7 uh oh http://smidge.com/ [00:12]
jborkl What is smidge anyway? [00:13]
mircea_popescu lol good one. [00:13]
nubbins` LEL [00:13]
jborkl besides done and usagi [00:13]
nubbins` wasn't smidge traded on havelock for like a day and a half or something? [00:13]
mircea_popescu "I largely address the issue of who the fuck has the never for this " [00:13]
mircea_popescu not bad [00:13]
dexX7 jborkl: otc fund [00:13]
dexX7 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgLGW6ARhmFLdDVyLUFPYjBHX0FIWWxXTy1Bc09uaVE&usp=sharing [00:14]
ozbot Google Docs - Online documents, spreadsheets, presentations, surveys, file storage and more [00:14]
mircea_popescu smidge is this irl accountant guy with a jet fighter pilot wife and two kids, who used to broker for mpex and do a bunch of other venture stuff [00:14]
mircea_popescu but has been busy with fambly past year or so. [00:14]
ThickAsThieves isnt that smickles? [00:14]
nubbins` his kids brokered for mpex? jesus [00:14]
dexX7 x_X [00:14]
kakobrekla lol [00:14]
kakobrekla its smickles yea not smidge [00:15]
* nubbins` tips hat [00:15]
kakobrekla lmao [00:15]
mircea_popescu o fuck me. [00:15]
ThickAsThieves lol [00:15]
nubbins` smi* [00:15]
mircea_popescu ok ok. smidge is this dangerously close to smickles named guy, who;'s kinda young, unwed, [00:15]
mircea_popescu and been trying to do things of import on the forum with moderate success. [00:15]
kakobrekla smidge is also known as midge. [00:15]
nubbins` does he at least have a girlfriend who is a boat captain or something? [00:15]
mircea_popescu i suppose he's taken -pr ish advice and is nao lurking [00:15]
ThickAsThieves he also disappeared when we called him usagi [00:15]
ThickAsThieves and usagi disappeared too [00:16]
nubbins` we are all usagi [00:16]
dexX7 yup from this channel [00:16]
mircea_popescu i don't think he's usagi because he made german-type slight style errors [00:16]
dexX7 though smidge has a few social profiles which look legit [00:16]
mircea_popescu whereas princess oliver is purely midwestern [00:16]
ThickAsThieves yeah, he pm'd me very angry that day [00:16]
dexX7 lol rly? [00:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25113 @ 0.00012068 = 3.0306 BTC [-] {3} [00:16]
ThickAsThieves apparently being called usagi is a pretty damning insult [00:17]
mircea_popescu well... [00:17]
nubbins` usagi is the new judas [00:17]
mircea_popescu i wonder if judas had tits [00:17]
jborkl calling someone Usagi is very insulting [00:17]
mircea_popescu would she had still been the villain [00:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 121603 @ 0.00011355 = 13.808 BTC [-] {20} [00:17]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: well, look at jesus' wife [00:18]
jborkl I think that means dumbass in Japanese [00:18]
nubbins` people called her a hooker! [00:18]
jborkl or maybe tranny [00:18]
mircea_popescu jborkl i agree. imo the insult ladder goes like taaki > usagi > pietilla > wagner [00:18]
jborkl taaki has awesome hair :/ [00:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.17 BTC [-] [00:18]
mircea_popescu i never saw him naked. [00:19]
jborkl lol touche [00:19]
dexX7 i liked pietilla before he went nuts [00:20]
dexX7 btc = $ 300k ! [00:20]
mircea_popescu i liked him after he went nuts past the point of common nuttery into pure trollage. [00:20]
mircea_popescu "If you are a representative of Solar Wind Mining reading this, be aware that I’m not calling you a scam. I’m saying that you potentially legitimate venture doesn’t even look as good as some scams, and this situation was entirely preventable." [00:21]
mircea_popescu ajhaha this is epic. [00:21]
mircea_popescu "bitch, i'm not saying you're a whore, i'm saying you look worse than plenty of whores and this is all your doing." [00:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.169 = 11.69 BTC [-] {2} [00:29]
jurov https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/page/faq behold the experts [00:29]
ozbot FAQ | Bitcoin Press Center [00:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 414 @ 0.01159447 = 4.8001 BTC [-] {12} [00:30]
ThickAsThieves self-nominated of course [00:30]
mircea_popescu Q: Do the moderators decide who is added or not? [00:30]
mircea_popescu A: No, the moderators only check accuracy. They are neither qualified nor authorized to make press relations decisions [00:30]
jurov who isn't? [00:30]
jurov maybe mpoe-pr can register :D [00:30]
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nubbins` a+, would nominate [00:31]
ThickAsThieves they need some sorta badges too [00:31]
ThickAsThieves how can i add my klout score? [00:31]
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ThickAsThieves :) [00:32]
nubbins` lel [00:32]
nubbins` https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presscontact/ryan-dickherber [00:32]
ozbot Ryan Dickherber | Bitcoin Press Center [00:32]
mircea_popescu that can;t be a name [00:32]
nubbins` that's up there with Destiny Fardy-Butt [00:32]
mircea_popescu does he harbor the dick ? [00:32]
ThickAsThieves i should make one and use trilema quotes for all my citations [00:33]
dub usagi chose 'smidge' because it was close to smickles and he had gone awol [00:33]
jborkl https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presslist-filtered/spoken-slovak [00:33]
ozbot Bitcoin Press Center | A global media center for bitcoin [00:33]
dub standard operating proceedure [00:33]
nubbins` he harbours that fucking stogie pretty well [00:33]
jborkl TuurDemeester < that was another name on the site [00:34]
pankkake https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presscontact/mari-n-jan-u-ka [00:34]
jborkl turd dumpster [00:34]
nubbins` https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/sites/default/files/me_big.jpg [00:34]
nubbins` lelelel [00:34]
ThickAsThieves tuur is a pretty good dude [00:34]
nubbins` i bet the WSJ is calling him right now [00:34]
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jurov btw and it came out exactly this dude is going to install bitcoin atm in bratislava [00:34]
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Apocalyptic nice, do you know where exactly jurov ? [00:35]
jurov was not said where yet [00:36]
pankkake I want some bitcoin ass to mouth [00:36]
jurov JobTitle:CEO, IT Conslutant lmaoooooooo [00:36]
nubbins` so i received a judgment in the mail today, regarding the claim we filed against our previous tenants [00:36]
nubbins` they awarded us 100% of what we asked for! [00:36]
nubbins` party time [00:36]
jborkl https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presslist-filtered/spoken-korean [00:36]
ozbot Bitcoin Press Center | A global media center for bitcoin [00:36]
jborkl lolol [00:36]
ThickAsThieves so sexy! [00:36]
pankkake conslutant is a pretty much what consultants should actually call themselves [00:36]
Apocalyptic heh [00:37]
dub nubbins`: spend it on psychotic hookers [00:37]
mircea_popescu nubbins` get pankkake to tell you what the mystery drug is called [00:38]
ThickAsThieves after seeing Roger Ver in person I no longer think someone had a gun to his head in that Gox-is-fine video, he's just that uncomfortable acting all the time [00:38]
nubbins` dub: i just press my ear to the wall if i want psychotic hookers [00:38]
mircea_popescu nubbins` why not ask them over ? [00:38]
nubbins` pankkake: what is the mystery drug called? (?) [00:38]
ThickAsThieves a fun moment was when Mike Hearn told the Mastercoin guy his project was shit [00:38]
pankkake I cannot tell [00:38]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: she's a beast [00:38]
ThickAsThieves something like "i believe you are actually trying to do it, i just dont think you are capable" [00:39]
pankkake so bitcoin central sends me a mail to say I'm refused again, does not tell me why, and the website says everything is still under review [00:39]
nubbins` currently she is screaming "GERRRAHHHHHHHHHHHH" to her empty apartment [00:39]
ThickAsThieves i think Hearn was my favorite guy [00:39]
ThickAsThieves he has that i'm so smart it hurts to be around you attitude [00:39]
nubbins` interspersed with wails of despair and things being thrown at walls [00:39]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves im curious what happens if hearn ever gets his shit together and shows up at some event of mine [00:39]
mircea_popescu cause basically i hold the same opinion of him. [00:39]
ThickAsThieves he was even reasonable when i asked him if he felt this whole decntralization of everything trend was a worthy pursuit [00:40]
ThickAsThieves said it's not his pursuit, and that i was right to question it [00:40]
nubbins` i'm going to start a forum called bitcoinchat.org [00:41]
ThickAsThieves i believe centralization is the natural evolution of most things [00:41]
mircea_popescu well sure. ask him if he thinks it's ok to submit revisions to code he's never read. [00:41]
nubbins` you have to pay to sign up [00:41]
ThickAsThieves oh [00:41]
mircea_popescu that'll be a diff question. [00:41]
nubbins` and you get dividends [00:41]
nubbins` every time you post [00:41]
ThickAsThieves i also asked him about the "core devs" [00:41]
mircea_popescu nubbins` something like that might actually work. a ponzi forum [00:41]
ThickAsThieves basically i expressed that this name alone worries me, [00:41]
nubbins` not a ponzi [00:41]
nubbins` you get divs! [00:42]
mircea_popescu you pay X to join, you get a percentage of all subsequent joins equal to your "trust rating" [00:42]
mircea_popescu as voted by other members. [00:42]
ThickAsThieves that accepting the devs as "core" is the most dangerous centralization in bitcoin [00:42]
ThickAsThieves on this he disagreed [00:42]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: i just need to figure out how to structure the "house edge" [00:42]
ThickAsThieves he says Gavin knows what's best and he trusts him, basically [00:42]
ThickAsThieves i didnt press the issue, but i disagreee [00:42]
mircea_popescu well i don't. [00:42]
mircea_popescu used to , but after the retarded server shit... meh. [00:42]
ThickAsThieves i both appreciate that some party is making the effort, and worry that it's just one party [00:43]
ThickAsThieves what if Gavin is wrong one day? or makes a big mistake? [00:44]
ThickAsThieves etc [00:44]
ThickAsThieves or dies [00:44]
mircea_popescu im hard pressed to appreciate the effort these days. [00:44]
ThickAsThieves i also brought up the Btc foundation [00:44]
ThickAsThieves he said there's no situation where gavin would just do what they vote for [00:44]
ThickAsThieves paid or not [00:45]
ThickAsThieves did i already tell you guys about the moment with the central banks being put on the spot? [00:46]
ThickAsThieves it was pretty awesome [00:46]
ThickAsThieves it was the Regulation panel [00:46]
ThickAsThieves i wonder if there's a vid [00:46]
nubbins` do tell [00:46]
ThickAsThieves there is [00:46]
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ThickAsThieves i'll find it [00:47]
dub what circlejerk have you been attending? [00:47]
ThickAsThieves Bitcoin Europe [00:47]
nubbins` aka BTC-E [00:47]
dub who ate the biscuit? [00:47]
nubbins` everybody [00:47]
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ThickAsThieves the panel is Wieske Ebbe (Dutch Central Bank), Michael Maier (Fidor Bank), Niels Ploeger (Amsterdam Police), Joerg Platzer (Crypto Economics Consulting Group) & Casper Riekerk (Finnius Lawyers) [00:50]
ThickAsThieves finding place in video [00:50]
ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaW2iPSPEs0&feature=player_detailpage#t=2218 [00:51]
ozbot Regulation Of Bitcoin - The European Bitcoin Convention -- 2013 Amsterdam - YouTube [00:51]
ThickAsThieves there i think that's it [00:51]
pankkake interesting that non-hard-core-bitcoiners were there [00:51]
pankkake ;;tslb [00:52]
gribble Time since last block: 48 minutes and 5 seconds [00:52]
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ThickAsThieves the audience question basically boils down to "Who are the real criminals, and what are you doing to regulate yourselves" [00:52]
ThickAsThieves it's the only question no one on the panel attempted to answer [00:52]
dub at 22:18? [00:53]
pankkake haha, nice [00:53]
dub (your links does nt work) [00:53]
pankkake at 37:40ish [00:53]
ThickAsThieves 37:10 is when it begins [00:53]
pankkake why does the mac have more than one apple logo? [00:55]
pankkake is this the special fanboy edition? [00:55]
* BingoBoingo waits for the SolarWindMining fanbois to respond on any venue re: them looking worse than whores [00:55]
kakobrekla lol [00:55]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/u4Ba5k5 [00:55]
ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer [00:55]
nubbins` that's one of the things the tenants left behind [00:56]
nubbins` fucked up [00:56]
dub lolwut [00:56]
nubbins` right? [00:57]
jborkl lol that is kinda strange [00:57]
nubbins` the guy who drew that has a 9yo daughter [00:57]
nubbins` and i found diapers in his room, too [00:57]
nubbins` really really really strange stuff [00:57]
pankkake lol [00:57]
pankkake I like those guys, they make me think I have a normal sexuality [00:58]
nubbins` heh [00:58]
nubbins` he also had a photo album [00:58]
BingoBoingo Oh, the Ryan Dickherber character got a mention here. At some point he contacted me in response to some local meetup I half assedly tried to organize. He seemed rather boring so I didn't bother. Pretty sure it is actually his name though. [00:58]
nubbins` full of pictures of wizards, fantasy landscapes, and a small section of women's faces on the very last page, with cut-out photos of himself glued on top [00:58]
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ThickAsThieves gonna link the vid of Hearn chewing up mastercoin [00:59]
ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwyZ7ZgCq_o&feature=player_detailpage#t=457 [00:59]
ozbot Decentralized Exchange Panel - The European Bitcoin Convention -- 2013 Amsterdam - YouTube [00:59]
nubbins` mastercoin is a pretty good chuckle [01:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share [01:00]
ThickAsThieves apparently no one filmed me asked the quantum mining guys who they thought they were fooling [01:01]
ThickAsThieves asking* [01:01]
blastbob alot of altcoin focus on that convetion? [01:02]
pankkake that sounds like another diaspora* in the making [01:02]
ThickAsThieves not much altcoin focus really [01:02]
ThickAsThieves charlie lee did appear twice [01:02]
ThickAsThieves but to discuss coinbase mostly [01:03]
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ThickAsThieves i considered asking him when they would list ltc [01:03]
blastbob ah ok [01:03]
ThickAsThieves but i knew he wouldnt answer [01:03]
blastbob i think one of the other guys at coinbase said in a video that they wasnt going to [01:03]
blastbob after he said they hired lee [01:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 48 @ 0.0041 = 0.1968 BTC [+] [01:05]
ThickAsThieves http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/10/07/the-switchboard-the-fbi-has-only-seized-26000-of-the-600000-bitcoins-silk-road-raked-in/ [01:06]
ozbot The Switchboard: The FBI has only seized 26,000 of the 600,000 Bitcoins Silk Road raked in [01:06]
ThickAsThieves sigh [01:06]
blastbob so is btctc web gone? [01:06]
ThickAsThieves the FBI has seized some 26,000 Bitcoins, but they have "not been able to get to Ulbricht’s personal Bitcoin yet. 'That’s like another $80 million worth,' [and FBI spokesperson] said [01:06]
nubbins` after reading that, i wondered if they even knew what addresses the funds are in [01:07]
nubbins` or if they're just guessing [01:07]
ThickAsThieves i still think it's based on sales logs [01:08]
ThickAsThieves rather than actually knowing a wallet is out there [01:08]
nubbins` well, that's silly [01:10]
b0n1 mircea_popescu, still there? [01:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00083744 = 2.0936 BTC [-] [01:12]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3295891#msg3295891 LOL [01:15]
ozbot [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange [WINDING DOWN] [01:15]
pankkake I wonder why people don't just setup auto renewal [01:15]
nubbins` haha [01:16]
nubbins` because they might really NEED that ten bucks, this time next year [01:16]
dub DEEEEERP [01:17]
dub I thought .co domains were free [01:17]
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mircea_popescu yes. [01:21]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves strangely enough for a "dutch central bank" rep, nobody heard of this ebe fellow. [01:22]
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mircea_popescu ;;google site:dnb.nl ebbe [01:24]
gribble No matches found. [01:24]
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b0n1 http://trilema.com/2013/least-likely-to-succeed-character-the-upseller/ although I read the article I couldn't find a reason way back and lay betting with btc is problematic [01:24]
ozbot Least likely to succeed character : The upseller pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [01:24]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo glwt. [01:25]
BingoBoingo Thanks mircea_popescu they seem like they can't even throw a proper labcoin style AMAZINGCOMPANY shitstorm. This might be more boring than I anticipated. [01:26]
mircea_popescu b0n1 well, ok. let's see here [01:26]
mircea_popescu do you grok the part of how back/lay is a subset of mutual betting ? [01:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2443 @ 0.00083772 = 2.0465 BTC [+] [01:28]
b0n1 no [01:28]
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mircea_popescu mkay. this is a problem of maffs. let's try something else : [01:28]
mircea_popescu do you see how the back/lay system distributes liquidity arbitrarily ? [01:29]
b0n1 yes [01:31]
mircea_popescu okay. do you see how that can be used to shave a significant edge off the naive players ? [01:32]
b0n1 no [01:32]
nubbins` "The last time I had seen grown humans throw up like stressed out cats we were in a ditch and being fired upon." [01:33]
nubbins` do elaborate [01:33]
ThickAsThieves paintball [01:33]
mircea_popescu b0n1 ok, simpler case of that : mutual betting is lay/back with no spread. if you can lay for 45 cents then you can back for 55, precisely. [01:34]
mircea_popescu nubbins` nah ty. [01:34]
nubbins` tease [01:35]
nubbins` tat, lel [01:35]
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b0n1 yeah, i see that point [01:36]
mircea_popescu now consider the cancellation problem. [01:37]
mircea_popescu a mutual bet you can always cancel by making an appropiate bet on the other side. [01:37]
mircea_popescu a back/lay bet you can only cancel if someone is willing to unwind you. [01:37]
mircea_popescu in low liquidity this becomes pretty huge. [01:38]
dub http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/scot%20free.html not sure how I stumbled on this but the pic of Dred Scott alone is worth the share [01:38]
ozbot Scot free [01:38]
b0n1 yes mircea_popescu [01:39]
mircea_popescu i thought it was about scottish people [01:39]
mircea_popescu b0n1 so basically, mutual betting is better for the bettor. line betting is great for the bookie. lay/back is great for the site/liquidity provider [01:39]
mircea_popescu which is i guess another way of saying bookie. [01:39]
b0n1 yes but additionally lay/back is also good for arbing [01:40]
mircea_popescu give an example [01:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7805 @ 0.00083743 = 6.5361 BTC [-] {2} [01:41]
b0n1 for example in a football game when you can bet on team A or team B or draw and also lay every bet, too [01:41]
b0n1 there can be many scenarios where there are arbitrage opportunities [01:42]
mircea_popescu sure, the event can be repackaged every which way, but fundamentally it's either a or b. [01:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 309 @ 0.00083772 = 0.2589 BTC [+] [01:43]
b0n1 yes, but you can for example lay b and bet a and can do arbitrage with that [01:43]
mircea_popescu i don't see we have such a shortage of events that we need to make them last by creating dozens of bets out of the same one thing [01:43]
b0n1 because prices are set by supply and demand from the users, at least thats how it works on betfair [01:44]
mircea_popescu you can do the same exact thing on mutual betting, except paying less vig. [01:44]
mircea_popescu take the most recent cointerra thing : [01:44]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/550/cointerra-will-deliver-in-2013/ [01:44]
ozbot BitBet - Cointerra will deliver in 2013 [01:44]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 5.16 / 0.08 [01:44]
gribble 64.5 [01:44]
mircea_popescu unless you think it's 64.5 to 1 they actually deliver, there's some arbitrage there. [01:45]
mike_c yeah.. my issue is that it feels like unless you get in early there is no way to bet. [01:45]
mike_c i.e. http://bitbet.us/bet/119/the-spot-gold-price-will-trade-above-2000-oz/ [01:45]
mike_c the odds on both sides suck. [01:45]
mircea_popescu how can the odds on both sides suck ? [01:46]
mike_c unless i misunderstand something.. [01:46]
b0n1 mircea_popescu, i am not sure whether that is of the same nature as the point i want to mention here [01:46]
nubbins` okay, i'm going to step outside for a few moments [01:46]
nubbins` in the meantime [01:46]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/a/9EqWU [01:46]
ozbot This is why damage deposits exist. - Imgur [01:46]
mircea_popescu mike_c well, it's an 8 month old bet. it's almost dead. you still get 1.1 / 1.7 for 2 months out. [01:47]
mike_c yeah. just seems like the weight drops off so quickly that its tough to get in. The weighting system seems to go against your philosophy of monitoring the bet and pushing the other side if you think the bet has moved the wrong way. [01:48]
mircea_popescu seeing how it's 1.3k atm... seems about right to me. you get better odds on that somewhere ? [01:48]
mircea_popescu i dunno that it does that honestly. [01:48]
mircea_popescu seems to me it's actually pricing the thing pretty darned accurately. if you look at options they're a worse deal. [01:49]
mike_c lemme check [01:49]
mircea_popescu i dunno that you can derive 10% gains over ghold staying under 2k an ounce for the rest of the year [01:49]
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mircea_popescu b0n1 what'd be the difference you'd say? [01:50]
mike_c nasdaq.com is slow as shit. [01:51]
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mike_c ok. i agree with you (and therefore will place a bet). let me find a better example or understand that I was wrong. [01:52]
mircea_popescu in general it's a daunting proposition, because it's so unstructured. [01:53]
mircea_popescu people are used to the very cloistered situation traditional betting venues offer. [01:53]
mircea_popescu the only problem is, traditional betting venues work much like the casino, to skim as much as possible. [01:54]
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b0n1 mircea_popescu, what i mean with arbing is for example in a binary bet where you can bet on event A or B you could lay both and make profit ( arbitrage opportunity) [01:56]
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b0n1 the quotes for bet/lay of an event A are not "entangled" with bet/lay of an event B so to say [01:58]
mircea_popescu so then if the events are unrelated then this is simply atiomic betting. you can bet no on all the various miner deliveries on bitbet and win with all [01:58]
mircea_popescu heck, people have. [01:58]
b0n1 don't see the point here [02:00]
mircea_popescu well me either. [02:01]
mircea_popescu so you can lay two unrelated bets. if they're unrelated that;'s not arbitrage. [02:01]
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b0n1 they are of course related, but theprices are not directly related [02:01]
mircea_popescu >< [02:01]
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mircea_popescu so basically you'd like to bet with stupid people ? [02:02]
b0n1 well mircea_popescu a lot of money make a living with that all day on betfair ... [02:02]
b0n1 a lot of people [02:02]
mircea_popescu i don't think a discussion of the cluelessness of the population can in principle be made into a comparison of betting systems. [02:03]
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mircea_popescu it;s like saying that car x is a better car than car y because you've seen more big busted blondes in car x. [02:03]
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mircea_popescu while this may be true, either in your own case or even generally, it still has northing to do with the car. [02:03]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: apparently I'm a sock for your PR now, or she's a sock for me? I'm wondering if this SolarWind thing has scammed before https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297334.msg3296064#msg3296064 [02:06]
b0n1 well... initially I was wondering why there is no back/lay betting system for btc so far. You told me then that there are difficulties and I was curious about them, but still dont get it I am afraid [02:06]
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mircea_popescu i told you a number of people tried, and it never caught, presumably because there's better alternatives available. [02:06]
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b0n1 mircea_popescu, what alternatives? [02:07]
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mircea_popescu i think i'll have to drop this now. [02:07]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo better learn to walk in heels. [02:08]
b0n1 I think its an idea worth thinking about since back/lay betting systems are much more attractive for intelligent punters who don't want to get robbed by line bettings [02:09]
mircea_popescu until they put the afternoon required into figuring it out and move on to mutual. [02:10]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Sounds like a dicey proposition. Like b0n1's idea that back/lay bettors are any less robbed than line bettors [02:12]
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peterl BTCT will be open for trading for one more day due to the domain registration lasping today https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3296116#msg3296116 [02:13]
b0n1 http://bitbet.us/bet/550/cointerra-will-deliver-in-2013/ why is nobody betting a yes here? Chances are much higher for yes atm than for no [02:14]
ozbot BitBet - Cointerra will deliver in 2013 [02:14]
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peterl what's a cointerra? [02:14]
b0n1 i mean a reasonable big amount on yes [02:14]
mircea_popescu b0n1 well it's new, prolly nobody with a balance saw it yet. [02:14]
mircea_popescu or who knows, maybe there's no confidence in delivery. [02:15]
BingoBoingo After the Picostocks news I'm leaning towards no chance CoinTerra delivers, if they deliver at all I imagine it would be BFL style... [02:16]
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b0n1 but someone here confirmed some hours ago visiting cointerra that they would deliver [02:17]
mircea_popescu it's a great thing all these "companies" don't actually have professional cfos involved so nobody realises just how much damage a faux pas of the sort does to their prospects [02:17]
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b0n1 also there is high evidence since they already sold the december batch [02:18]
mircea_popescu b0n1 twas jborkl, and he said that's what they said not what they'll do necessarily. [02:18]
mircea_popescu lol by this criteria bfl delivered in 2012. [02:18]
b0n1 :) [02:18]
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kakobrekla !bash 2 [02:19]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1409055/plain/) [02:19]
b0n1 the only reasonable amount in there so far is a 5 btc on no and even the owner of this bet believes it is a yes since it was a hedge [02:19]
kakobrekla well thats a fail [02:20]
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mircea_popescu b0n1 mike_c was discussing a 50+ btc bet earlier. what's your definition of reasonable ? [02:22]
kakobrekla !b 5 [02:22]
assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1409061/plain/) [02:22]
benkay ThickAsThieves nobody caught you grilling the quantum guys? [02:22]
b0n1 on no? [02:22]
kakobrekla yay [02:22]
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BingoBoingo b0n1: That 5 BTC no bet, probably wasn't a hedge. Sometimes a BitBet bet is just a bet and not a fancy hedge. [02:22]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/119/the-spot-gold-price-will-trade-above-2000-oz/ [02:23]
mircea_popescu 43 no 11 yes or w/e [02:23]
ozbot BitBet - The spot gold price will trade above $2000/oz in 2013 [02:23]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/147/mtgox-out-of-business-by-end-of-year/ [02:23]
ThickAsThieves Neo & Bee presentation at The Bitcoin Europe Conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFmiDBLQA1o [02:23]
ozbot BitBet - MtGox out of business by end of year [02:24]
mircea_popescu 22 : 6 [02:24]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/518/btc-network-diff-to-top-210m-before-november/ [02:24]
ozbot BitBet - BTC network diff to top 210M before November [02:24]
mircea_popescu whoa nelly. [02:24]
mircea_popescu diff bets are such crazytalk. [02:24]
peterl ThickAsThieves this video is really bad quality. Couldn't you at least get a tripod? [02:26]
asciilifeform anyone else notice Mr. S endorsing ESP? https://twitter.com/EJosephSnowden/status/384018062237659136 [02:27]
benkay why are diff bets crazytalk? [02:28]
mircea_popescu well for instance that one looked like it'll go the other way at outset. [02:29]
ThickAsThieves peterl, the video was never planned to be made [02:29]
ThickAsThieves it's just me holding a tablet [02:29]
ThickAsThieves there was an official videographer there [02:30]
peterl oh, that explains it. I guess that is decent quality for a tablet video [02:30]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform huh ?! [02:30]
ThickAsThieves but no sign of the video from this session [02:30]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that was certainly my impression from the link. [02:30]
mircea_popescu what's esp for one ? [02:31]
asciilifeform as in telekinesis, etc [02:31]
mircea_popescu uh [02:32]
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asciilifeform he linked to some joker charging $$$$ for seminars in soothsaying, who makes clients sign NDA; S comments that 'they got to him, made him do it.' [02:32]
Vexual the uh, cypress sec, um.. we are posing to um them a *shrug* guildline, to ... bitcoin... [02:32]
mircea_popescu mayhap the scrutiny is too close. [02:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 775 @ 0.00122 = 0.9455 BTC [-] {2} [02:34]
asciilifeform I'll laugh my arse off if it comes out that signals intel is being 'laundered' via... government soothsayers. [02:34]
ThickAsThieves Vexual, he was first presenter and a bit nervous maybe [02:34]
ThickAsThieves i dont think he's ever done this before [02:35]
Vexual yes [02:35]
ThickAsThieves i gave him some pointers after [02:35]
mircea_popescu wouldn't be the first time [02:35]
ThickAsThieves but yknow [02:35]
mircea_popescu but still. random shit ppkl say. [02:35]
Vexual reading between the line I am concerned about the lawyers saying that the regulators will be welcoming of their submissions [02:36]
ThickAsThieves everyone knows everyone in Cyprus [02:36]
ThickAsThieves it's very much a who-you-know kinda place [02:36]
mircea_popescu Vexual always a good idea to keep in mind that people talking binds nobody. including the people themselves most of the time. [02:36]
Vexual yes, any theyve said the lawyers are tight with the regulators [02:36]
ThickAsThieves this sentiment was repeated by other lawyers i spoke with in other countries, [02:37]
ThickAsThieves essentially the regulators welcome recommendations in new areas [02:37]
ThickAsThieves of course they will do what they want [02:37]
Vexual that the regulators will accept submission, of that their plan will get the green light? [02:38]
mircea_popescu lol. [02:38]
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mircea_popescu bitcoin cares about this now ? [02:38]
ThickAsThieves but generally you can see the difference between germany or cyprus asking for guidance, and the US sending subpeonas [02:38]
mircea_popescu but anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cajcEZ5Z-x8 [02:38]
mircea_popescu tada! [02:38]
ThickAsThieves the plan is already green lit [02:38]
ThickAsThieves the question is whether they will get additional regulation [02:39]
Vexual the business plan shows executive salaries exceeding legals before they even open for business [02:39]
ThickAsThieves i suggest you talk to Danny about specifics [02:39]
ThickAsThieves it's not MY business after all [02:39]
ThickAsThieves and legally i shouldnt really be spekaing on it at all anyway [02:40]
ThickAsThieves speaking* [02:40]
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Vexual bonjor miseur pimp [10:07]
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Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCBLA-fuVw [10:09]
ozbot Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa "French Inhale" - YouTube [10:09]
Vexual how did shoot go? [10:09]
mircea_popescu lolwut [10:11]
Vexual you werent taking photos of naked aldies just now? [10:12]
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mircea_popescu nope. [10:13]
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mircea_popescu who shoots naked ladies at 10 in the am. [10:13]
Vexual good light [10:14]
mircea_popescu tired girls. [10:14]
Vexual if you ever want to go to prn movies, call me for the twisted lines [10:15]
Vexual you know ive got the line beween reality and fantasy that teh people want [10:15]
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mircea_popescu lolk [10:17]
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Vexual gimme 20 for actresses and 10k for sets, you hold the camera and do sales [10:19]
Vexual ill have lezzo gagging for dick [10:20]
Vexual best movie ever, only available for bitcoin [10:21]
Vexual forbes and bloomberg [10:22]
Vexual c'mon [10:24]
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Vexual you hear the press saying , new tech wheres the porn [10:24]
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Vexual ill hold ethe camera and so sales [10:41]
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Vexual if you dont get it by now, the omissions are more important than the inclusions. [10:59]
Vexual welcome back [10:59]
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mircea_popescu that was... odd. [11:00]
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VanCleef Today Tonight @TodayTonight [11:52]
VanCleef What is #Bitcoin? Did you know you can pay for drinks and food with #bitcoins in #Australia now? [11:52]
VanCleef wrong room [11:52]
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mircea_popescu "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies." [12:07]
mircea_popescu obama is like... having a moment of clarity ? [12:07]
mircea_popescu in... 2006. [12:07]
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Ogedei btctc hasnt closed trading yet? [13:18]
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assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 150 @ 0.0007211 = 0.1082 BTC [+] [13:25]
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virtuals Ogedei, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3296116#msg3296116 [13:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7384 @ 0.00084437 = 6.2348 BTC [+] [13:35]
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assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 1344 @ 0.004 = 5.376 BTC [-] [13:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3937 @ 0.00126978 = 4.9991 BTC [+] {2} [13:41]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 39 @ 0.45002563 = 17.551 BTC [+] {4} [13:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 73 @ 0.41 = 29.93 BTC [-] [13:53]
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assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4576 @ 0.0001301 = 0.5953 BTC [-] [14:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.1166 = 1.166 BTC [+] {3} [14:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 82131 @ 0.00017633 = 14.4822 BTC [+] {9} [14:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00084194 = 6.2304 BTC [-] {2} [14:44]
bitesak the show must go on ! [14:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.01198714 = 0.8391 BTC [-] {2} [14:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 685 @ 0.00296149 = 2.0286 BTC [+] {4} [14:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 275 @ 0.002977 = 0.8187 BTC [+] [14:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share [15:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00084441 = 8.5708 BTC [+] {2} [15:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00297799 = 2.978 BTC [+] [15:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2122 @ 0.00298494 = 6.334 BTC [+] {3} [15:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 243 @ 0.00299998 = 0.729 BTC [+] [15:08]
jurov http://i.imgur.com/xSOW1NG.jpg meh. [15:18]
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mircea_popescu meh is right. [15:23]
pankkake if you select the right timeframe you can probably make this graph show very different stuff [15:23]
pankkake also, no legends. lol [15:23]
mircea_popescu no, there's legends. btc supposedly made 800% while the rest of the stuff 30 [15:23]
mircea_popescu fior that matter if you take 1 year it goes from 5 to 130, ie, 6000% [15:24]
pankkake well, I guessed it was a %, but still [15:24]
pankkake that () instead of - is weird, though I remember seing it elsewhere [15:25]
mircea_popescu it's trhere on the left [15:25]
pankkake no, there's the number, but it doesn't say what it is [15:25]
pankkake but most importantly, no dates [15:25]
mircea_popescu () means negative. always has. [15:25]
pankkake you could probably show bitcoin doing -50% [15:25]
pankkake it's ugly [15:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4488 @ 0.0008446 = 3.7906 BTC [+] {3} [15:33]
pankkake http://bitbet.us/bet/491/the-winklevoss-bitcoin-etf-to-be-open-for/#c1571 lol [15:35]
ozbot BitBet - The Winklevoss Bitcoin ETF to be open for public investment before December 1st 2013 [15:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00084637 = 4.1472 BTC [+] {2} [15:41]
pankkake !jd [15:42]
assbot Just-Dice stat: 1290 BTC profit, 55.2k BTC invested, 161.06 mio bets, 4.00 mio BTC wagered [15:42]
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pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264696.msg3298572#msg3298572 [15:54]
ozbot [BTCT.CO] [IPO-cancelled] BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon [15:54]
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Rulother They're still developing? [15:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.0008362 = 7.1077 BTC [-] {2} [16:02]
pankkake they did it without the ipo as they said [16:02]
ThickAsThieves the IPO was a stunt [16:02]
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Rulother So Garden 1 Labcoin -1 [16:12]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.03737 = 0.1869 BTC [+] [16:20]
ThickAsThieves http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24443216 [16:26]
ozbot BBC News - Four UK men arrested over Silk Road links [16:26]
VanCleef sucks to be them [16:26]
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LorenzoMoneyOFC When I first fiscovered SR, I thought to myself, "Self, what are the inherent dangers in buying or selling anything on SR?" so I didnt [17:01]
VanCleef waiting for a swat team to rape my asshole [17:02]
pankkake if you used PGP in all messages I fail to see how you could get caught [17:04]
pankkake even as a seller [17:04]
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Lennix anything one should know why trading on btct is still possible? [17:05]
ozbot BBC News - Four UK men arrested over Silk Road links [17:06]
pankkake extended because of the technical issues of yesterday [17:06]
Lennix for 24h or whats the deal? [17:06]
pankkake 24h I guess [17:06]
Lennix ah burnside wrote it on the forums [17:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6854 @ 0.00084247 = 5.7743 BTC [+] [17:15]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [-] [17:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002999 = 0.2999 BTC [-] [17:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [-] [17:29]
pankkake hmm, I thought sending shares to the issuer on btctc would share the oustanding/issued [17:33]
pankkake or is it cached? [17:33]
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bitesak http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/10/07/truckers-for-the-constitution-plan-to-slow-dc-beltway-arrest-congressmen [17:46]
ozbot 'Truckers for the Constitution' Plan to Slow D.C. Beltway, Arrest Congressmen - US News and World Re [17:46]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 176 @ 0.00069989 = 0.1232 BTC [+] {3} [17:50]
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Rulother Arrest congressmen? [17:53]
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Scrat murca [17:54]
kleeck lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D7J5YygEoM [17:54]
Scrat amazing country [17:54]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [17:54]
Rulother amazing [17:54]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [17:54]
Rulother There we go [17:54]
Rulother Anywho misleading title. And screw causing a slow down, that traffic for other people too [17:55]
Rulother So piss off with that [17:55]
Rulother I would be so mad if I knew a group of people were purposely going to cause traffic in my area for a fucking protest [17:56]
Rulother "Screw you man I'm trying to get to work" [17:56]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 1.126 = 24.772 BTC [-] {4} [18:00]
LorenzoMoneyOFC I would be so mad if politicians stopped governmental porocess for stupid reasons [18:00]
LorenzoMoneyOFC oh yeah.... [18:00]
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assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 7 @ 0.083 = 0.581 BTC [+] [18:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 14 @ 0.083 = 1.162 BTC [+] [18:08]
jurov http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/10/how-lavabit-edward-snowden-email-service-melted-down.html [18:22]
ozbot How Lavabit Melted Down : The New Yorker [18:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00084247 = 2.6538 BTC [+] [18:28]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307813.0 wat [18:29]
ozbot A Call To Reason [18:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.1337 = 0.4011 BTC [+] [18:31]
Rulother btct is done [18:33]
pankkake cool, I still had the time to buy one labcoin share for the lulz [18:33]
pankkake actually, I am the last labcoin trade. so much win! [18:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2485 @ 0.0002299 = 0.5713 BTC [+] [18:44]
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Rulother Probably last one ever [18:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00084553 = 5.7919 BTC [+] {4} [18:54]
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ThickAsThieves http://www.futureblock.com/ [19:21]
ozbot Future Block | Bet on the Bitcoin Hash Rate [19:21]
pankkake so it's on only 24h?! [19:23]
pankkake hm no 36 [19:24]
pankkake no 48, but bets open on 36 [19:24]
pankkake no [19:25]
pankkake ok I shup up [19:25]
pankkake bet on hashrate in 24h, bets open for 12h [19:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 1.27530467 = 81.6195 BTC [+] {4} [19:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 1.27999999 = 15.36 BTC [+] {3} [19:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4693 @ 0.00084235 = 3.9531 BTC [-] [20:03]
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KRS-1 this is boring..somebody do something. [20:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.121 = 2.242 BTC [-] {2} [20:25]
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* KRS-1 # ping -s 6473865535010101010132768049152048010240640 www.mtgox.com [20:26]
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jborkl and another one goes poof http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/5267-unit-s-catching-fire/page3 [20:49]
jborkl fire fire [20:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 1.27 = 30.48 BTC [+] {2} [20:50]
jborkl http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ci7d4h&s=5#.UlRGY1CUS4k [20:52]
ozbot Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting [20:52]
KRS-1 are these consumer's machines or their demos? [20:55]
jborkl I have seen 4 pics of consumer machines [20:55]
KRS-1 what I got from BFL has been very reliable so far and just what i expected..a year and 2 months ago. [20:55]
KRS-1 ouch [20:55]
jborkl at this rate, we only have to wait another week for all of them to blow [20:56]
KRS-1 yeah..thats gonna be painful for knc and customers alike [20:57]
jborkl Well, they named the new smaller machine [20:57]
jborkl so the line up is Saturn, Jupiter and Uranus [20:57]
KRS-1 thats why i hate being first with technology [20:57]
kakobrekla yeah but here, first batch customers will roi in a month, second batch - never. [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6709 @ 0.0008419 = 5.6483 BTC [-] {2} [20:58]
jborkl I heard you will be able to overclock Uranus [20:58]
jborkl there is a probing spot [20:59]
kakobrekla my anus? [20:59]
kakobrekla yeah it has a probing spot. [20:59]
kakobrekla alien probing. [20:59]
KRS-1 Saturn and Jupiter shall circle Uranus and search for Klingons. [21:00]
kakobrekla yeah they acctually hash KLI256 [21:00]
pankkake I wouldn't want that thing to explode in my anus :/ [21:01]
jborkl Well, I certainly hope Uranus does not catch fire [21:01]
kakobrekla oh [21:01]
kakobrekla i thought all bitcoiners wanted all other participants dead [21:01]
kakobrekla hence seding them bombs instead of miners [21:02]
jborkl lol, true [21:02]
jborkl butt maybe only catching fire to one anus is better [21:02]
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kakobrekla i suspect they installed wrong blowup fuses [21:04]
kakobrekla those things should fry after warranty is over [21:04]
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jborkl https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0 [21:04]
ozbot Custom hardware [21:04]
kakobrekla should be just Urectum, much cleaner. [21:05]
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jborkl Well, Uranus will produce 195GH [21:08]
jborkl minus 16% errors [21:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 1.32 = 19.8 BTC [+] [21:16]
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pankkake http://mulliganmint.com/just-saying-bitcoin-is-like-saying-bomb-on-an-airplane/ [21:30]
ozbot Just saying Bitcoin is like saying bomb on an airplane | Mulligan Mint Inc [21:30]
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kleeck LOL: No one at Mulligan Mint was dragged into a storage room and questioned by Robert DeNiro. But Capital One did immediately shut down our merchant account to process credit card orders. Apparently, someone at the bank saw the word “Bitcoin” and didn’t bother to read the product description or any of our blogs about the coin. [21:33]
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deadweasel ;;ticker [21:38]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.04000, Best ask: 137.49992, Bid-ask spread: 0.45992, Last trade: 137.04000, 24 hour volume: 3421.16545433, 24 hour low: 135.66000, 24 hour high: 137.89999, 24 hour vwap: 136.52242 [21:38]
jborkl forum people did not get my Uranus joke [21:41]
jborkl :/ they took it serious [21:42]
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jcpham http://www.futureblock.com/ [21:46]
ozbot Future Block | Bet on the Bitcoin Hash Rate [21:46]
mike_c TAT posted that before. is he running it? [21:47]
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jcpham shrug [21:47]
ThickAsThieves No I'm not running it [21:49]
ThickAsThieves just thought it was decent [21:50]
ThickAsThieves and shared [21:50]
jborkl I like it [21:50]
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mike_c better designed than most btc sites [21:52]
mike_c visually [21:52]
jcpham TAT blamed for everything [21:53]
jborkl well, do you think the DDOS will continue for the next 12 hours =yes [21:55]
jborkl I win, gimme [21:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3381 @ 0.00084075 = 2.8426 BTC [-] {3} [21:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4837 @ 0.00083931 = 4.0597 BTC [-] [22:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00084265 = 4.6346 BTC [+] [22:19]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.00299998 = 0.282 BTC [+] [23:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00084601 = 2.0304 BTC [+] [23:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00084376 = 3.4172 BTC [-] [23:17]
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mod6 ;;tslb [23:25]
gribble Time since last block: 26 minutes and 38 seconds [23:25]
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Jere_Jones ThickAsThieves: Gotchyer ears on? [23:35]
pankkake bitfunder is the next one, already [23:42]
ThickAsThieves jere? [23:42]
Jere_Jones It appears as if I'm about to be banned from Bitfunder. [23:42]
kakobrekla lol why? [23:43]
Jere_Jones Having commited the crime of being a US citizen. [23:43]
ThickAsThieves ************* [23:43]
ThickAsThieves Important Notice (October 8th, 2013): [23:43]
ThickAsThieves Please be advised that BitFunder is implementing the following rules and procedures: [23:43]
ThickAsThieves As of October 8th, 2013, BitFunder will not accept new registrations from any United States persons or entities. All new registrants must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account. BitFunder may, in its sole direction, decline to accept any new registrations. [23:43]
ThickAsThieves As of October 8th, 2013, all current BitFunder users who are located in the United States or are determined to be United States persons or entities will not be able to enter into any new positions on the Bitfunder website, and, as of November 1, 2013, such users will also not be allowed to sell positions on the BitFunder website. [23:43]
ThickAsThieves All current BitFunder users who are not United States persons or entities must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account before November 1, 2013. Any such users who fail to provide the necessary information will not be able to enter into or sell positions on the BitFunder website as of November 1, 2013. [23:43]
ThickAsThieves Users will be able to withdraw holdings and Bitcoins from their BitFunder accounts before and after November 1, 2013. [23:43]
ThickAsThieves All assets and issuers must demonstrate that they meet BitFunder's requirements for the listing of assets, or the assets and issuers will, at BitFunder's sole discretion, be denied access to, or removed from, the site. Issuers will be notified of any additional information needed to demonstrate compliance with BitFunder's requirements. [23:43]
ThickAsThieves BitFunder appreciates your understanding in these matters as we move forward. [23:43]
ThickAsThieves Sincerely, [23:43]
ThickAsThieves BitFunder [23:43]
ThickAsThieves *************** [23:43]
Jere_Jones Truthfully, I understand why they're doing that. Times like this make me sad. Oh well. [23:43]
Jere_Jones Anyway, I'm reaching out to you because I just noticed my NEOBEE shares hit Bitfunder today (or yesterday?) [23:44]
Jere_Jones Any chance you can waive the 1btc fee to transfer them to havelock? [23:44]
kakobrekla and then what next week youll be moving from havelock to mpex? [23:44]
ThickAsThieves sigh [23:44]
kakobrekla !q 5 [23:45]
assbot Quote: http://dpaste.com/1410140/plain/ [23:45]
Jere_Jones "No" is an acceptable answer. [23:45]
Jere_Jones I have no plans to sell them so maybe keeping them on Bitfunder will be good for security. No one could hack my account and sell them. :) [23:46]
Jere_Jones I just thought I'd ask. [23:46]
ThickAsThieves I think you shoujld wait [23:46]
ThickAsThieves as this is a larger issue [23:46]
Jere_Jones Can you elaborate? [23:47]
ThickAsThieves you are one of many with this problem [23:47]
ThickAsThieves and this is a problem for Neo itself [23:47]
ThickAsThieves one that Neo will likely need/want to weigh in on [23:48]
ThickAsThieves or make plans around [23:48]
Jere_Jones I *really* hope this doesn't interfere with their execution. [23:48]
ThickAsThieves I don't see why it would [23:48]
kakobrekla maybe CheckDavid will save us with his exchange! [23:48]
ThickAsThieves the irony here being that I planned to take mp aside to discuss the possibility of such things BEFORE they happened... [23:48]
kakobrekla or that cipher chick. [23:49]
ThickAsThieves of course I have no idea whether mp has any interest in hosting anything from me [23:49]
ThickAsThieves incuding Neo, and whether Neo would wnat to consider such movement either [23:49]
Jere_Jones I'm not sure I'd care to pay the 30BTC fee to have an account on MPEx. [23:49]
Jere_Jones Or whatever it is now. [23:49]
ThickAsThieves let's not jump ahead anyway [23:50]
Jere_Jones Fair enough. I shall wait and see. [23:50]
ThickAsThieves i operate unde rthe assumption mp doesnt want any "play" assets from play exchanges anyway [23:50]
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