Forum logs for 08 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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BingoBongo	I heard PrimeAsic, that 99% chance of scam is responsive to inquiries again...	[00:01]
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jborkl	If you were a asshole scammer, you would probably run off with Nefario, Piratits, and the list goes on. I am not concerned if you are a asshole, that is not my problem	[00:02]
jborkl	:)	[00:03]
jborkl	people seem to get confused, you are one of the only ones that has not run away, yet they accuse you all the time	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]	[00:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43500001 BTC [-]	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo i kinda stopped following	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	i mean... this is vegas. you get a chance.	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	jborkl sometimes people say the things they most fear. it's a defense mechanism.	[00:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.65 = 13 BTC [-]	[00:05]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43500001 BTC [-]	[00:09]
thestringpuller	!ticker m S.DICE	[00:09]
thestringpuller	dude seriously	[00:09]
thestringpuller	MIRCEA FIX THIS	[00:09]
assbot	Quest for vision is a great blessing.	[00:09]
thestringpuller	This is what you get for making people mad.	[00:09]
dub	fix what?	[00:10]
dub	http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif this is possibly the most useful gif ever	[00:10]
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thestringpuller	dub you rule sometimes	[00:12]
thestringpuller	just wow	[00:12]
dub	I can't take credit its from the forum	[00:13]
BingoBongo	Eh, I figured PrimeAsic blew their chance earlier this week. I'm having trouble figuring out if they are a well planned scam, troll, or both.	[00:14]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]	[00:17]
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Eduard_Munteanu	Is mpex.co down?	[00:19]
Eduard_Munteanu	Err... /topic. Sorry. :)	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	Eduard_Munteanu you've missed out on an entire saga.	[00:19]
jborkl	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 1000 BTC [+]	[00:20]
jurov	bitvps gets 2nd round	[00:20]
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jurov	poor jcpham	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	jurov what's that mean ?	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	jborkl lol you gave me a start.	[00:21]
Eduard_Munteanu	Nothing important, I just wanted to peek at the options prices. Placing my overnight orders on mtgox...	[00:21]
jborkl	Lol	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	Eduard_Munteanu mostly the open interest covered yest.	[00:21]
jborkl	I should have /nick but I didnt want people to really have a heart attack	[00:22]
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mircea_popescu	bitcoinity dead again ? ;/	[00:22]
jurov	we were making my vps accessible under another addy, suddenly mgmt froze again	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	lol	[00:22]
Eduard_Munteanu	bitcoincharts.com is dead as well. :(	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	oix : "7d": {"avg": "4713745617","min": "3024713516","max": "4853472885","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.62504497419E+12","cnt": ""}	[00:23]
jurov	it works here	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	it's relatively stale tho.	[00:23]
Eduard_Munteanu	jurov: can you see any chart here? http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/	[00:23]
jurov	yes, dispalyes quickly	[00:23]
Eduard_Munteanu	Only the top ribbon on that page loads.	[00:23]
Eduard_Munteanu	Hm.	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	i cant see it either	[00:24]
Eduard_Munteanu	Some #mtgox op told me they've banned most of my provider (RDS).	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	heh	[00:24]
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Eduard_Munteanu	I should probably switch to IPv6 or get a static address.	[00:24]
Eduard_Munteanu	The former sounds like a better idea.	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	i think more than just mpex, tis a test for bitcoins in general.	[00:25]
Eduard_Munteanu	Yeah.	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	pretty much every service is getting hit someway	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	the network itself was struggling with txs yest	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	growth pains.	[00:26]
thestringpuller	blockchain.info is down	[00:26]
Eduard_Munteanu	Also, all those chart / live data services merely do client-side lookups through the mtgox API, it seems. Instead of caching and relaying data.	[00:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24999 BTC [+]	[00:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.24999 = 0.5 BTC [+]	[00:26]
Eduard_Munteanu	I guess mtgox is suddenly getting DDoSed by that, not to mention the actual transactions.	[00:27]
jurov	blockchain up here	[00:27]
Eduard_Munteanu	Oh, well, I've placed my orders for the night, pretty conservative.	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	live data would not cache by the definition of the term	[00:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]	[00:28]
FabianB	;;tslb	[00:32]
gribble	Time since last block: 36 minutes and 4 seconds	[00:32]
kakobrekla	prime asic broke ze chain	[00:33]
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mircea_popescu	dude again over half hour ?!	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	this is atrocious.	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	yest i had txs lay stale for > 6 hours before being included in a block.	[00:39]
kakobrekla	smpake would be useful.	[00:39]
BingoBongo	Pools getting attacked?	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	and im not exactly talking 10 bitcoins here	[00:39]
kakobrekla	it was 11.	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	people were liek "o, your bitcoind is ddosed too ?" and i was like no dude, the tx is out since noon '/	[00:39]
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kakobrekla	yeah	[00:40]
kakobrekla	paypal looks nice again	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	totally.	[00:41]
benkay	same question as BingoBongo: are pools being ddosed as well?	[00:41]
thestringpuller	http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif	[00:42]
jurov	so, phungus from bitvps blames me and he won't enable my vps access anymore	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	lol	[00:43]
jurov	best time to withdraw everything and leave	[00:43]
jurov	mircea_popescu , will you let me?	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	let you what ?	[00:43]
thestringpuller	coinbr is down?	[00:43]
jurov	sell&withdraw everything from coinbr acct	[00:43]
jurov	and blame bitvps	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	yes, but you have to consider if you sell right now you're hurting customers.	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	not sure what consolation blaming bitvps will be.	[00:44]
jurov	you didn't understand me.. i can now vanish with all customers funds	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	anyway, par for the course for "hosting" out there : sure we can do it sir! o you mean things actually need to be done ? sorry, pls go to somewhere else.	[00:44]
jurov	as so many ppl did	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	if you ask them they're hosting corps, offer things like unlimited bw.	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	tghen if you serve 500 pages in a day it's suddenly... we're only hosters if you don't get traffic.	[00:45]
jurov	and if you attract ddos, you must apologize.	[00:46]
mircea_popescu	anyway, their upstream/colo host prolly told them to not do it again or else get a real connection	[00:46]
jurov	but yeah, I do have recent enough coinbr backups and am not running away.	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	good.	[00:47]
jurov	dunno if i should make me killer coffee and set it up or it can wait till tomorrow	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	i think it can wait till tomorrow.	[00:48]
jurov	mircea_popescu, how it looks on your side?	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	should be getting everything online today technically since it's almost 1am	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	but maybe get an account with a good ddos protected host.	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	because i tell you something, when they won't be able to take me down they'll harass you	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	and you have a much larger userbase crossection, you'll read plenty of shit in the forum	[00:49]
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jurov	i know... hope i bought some time with amazon, plan to set up some load balancing there quickly	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	prolly your best path of action on a personal level is	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	get some sleep now	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	wake naturally	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	deal with it then	[00:51]
jurov	heh okay.. if i manage to get asleep	[00:51]
Anduck	!ticker m s.mpoe	[00:53]
assbot	Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?	[00:53]
jborkl	Mp or Jurov - are there a bunch of pending market orders to fill?	[00:53]
jurov	no, they are filled normally - see live.coinbr.com	[00:54]
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mircea_popescu	jborkl nope.	[00:54]
jborkl	good	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	today is mpex sunday :D	[00:55]
jborkl	all of the coinbr are down for me and have been	[00:56]
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jurov	jborkl, prolly stale DNS entries	[00:57]
jurov	same problem here, my isp insists caching them, had to change dns server	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	page hangs for me atm	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	but it does find your domain/favicon	[00:59]
jurov	http://coinbr.com should work at least, https is not set up yet so it fails	[00:59]
jurov	and mpex. and live. did not have dns expiration so they linger up pointing to bitvps	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	ah i c	[01:01]
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BingoBongo	224744 2 minutes 443 25.33651677 BTC Deepbit 249kb; 224743 4 minutes 581 25.48650003 BTC 199.101.100.218 243kb	[01:05]
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BingoBongo	Interesting last couple blocks	[01:05]
BingoBongo	Barely more than the block reward in transactions and nearly a quarter megabyte each	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	indeed	[01:06]
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*	smickles brags about selling a significant portion of his btc at 49.2 then buying it back at 33.98	[01:11]
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*	smickles will now have shortterm capital gains to report in the next tax season	[01:12]
BingoBongo	And these big barely more than 25 BTC blocks continue...	[01:12]
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benkay	;;tslb	[01:13]
gribble	Time since last block: 4 minutes and 12 seconds	[01:13]
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nanotube	mircea_popescu: how goes the botting? :)	[01:19]
Diablo-D3	smickles: lol you asshole	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	slowly it seems	[01:19]
BitHub	Hey, anyone seen Namworld around?	[01:21]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: heh ic	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	BitHub he just joined	[01:21]
BitHub	lulz	[01:22]
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BitHub	ahh man i really shouldn't use this thing when i first wake up	[01:22]
BitHub	thanks mircea, how are you by the way?	[01:22]
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Namworld	I'm here now. What do you need?	[01:24]
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BitHub	i'll pm you	[01:24]
BitHub	brb first tho	[01:24]
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mircea_popescu	i'm great.	[01:28]
Namworld	Did you get any demand for fees to stop the DDoS yet??	[01:31]
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Namworld	Or is the DDoS done out of spite or something	[01:31]
Namworld	I need to go in and make a deposit/trade	[01:32]
Namworld	Can you take manual deposits for now?	[01:32]
Diablo-D3	heh what ddos?	[01:33]
Namworld	MPEx getting ddos'ed	[01:33]
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Diablo-D3	lame	[01:33]
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BitHub	meanwhile btcjam goes on	[01:34]
*	BitHub rolls eyes	[01:34]
Namworld	No one cares about BTCjam... that's why	[01:35]
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BitHub	haha	[01:35]
kmg	test	[01:37]
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deadweasel	nice topic	[01:39]
deadweasel	anybody else listen to Takenobu?	[01:39]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.005979 = 0.1196 BTC [-]	[01:40]
deadweasel	asian violinist.	[01:40]
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deadweasel	he killed my weasel with music.	[01:40]
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smickles	namworld yeah, ddos	[01:41]
mod6	6 blocks mined in 17 minutes?!	[01:42]
smickles	sillything to Do to	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	Namworld no demands.	[01:42]
mod6	its like faaaasst, then sloooow	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	mod6 weirdhuh	[01:42]
smickles	mod6 I've heard that randomness is clumsy	[01:42]
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smickles	we, clumpy	[01:43]
mod6	heheh	[01:43]
mod6	it is strange though... its like they kick up the ASCIs and grab a few blocks then turn 'em down to keep the difficulty in check?	[01:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [+]	[01:43]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.00899 = 0.0809 BTC [+]	[01:43]
smickles	thatwouldn't work afaik	[01:43]
mod6	thats good! lol	[01:43]
mod6	im not sure wtf is goin on	[01:44]
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mircea_popescu	mod6 maybe overheating issues	[01:45]
mod6	ahh.	[01:48]
kakobrekla	clock buffers.	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	;;bc,diff	[01:53]
gribble	4367876.0008422	[01:54]
mircea_popescu	;;estimate	[01:54]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 4749519.86453 based on data since last change \| 4759411.19664 based on data for last three days	[01:54]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08999 BTC [+]	[01:59]
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benkay	allo kakobrekla	[02:02]
kakobrekla	allo allo	[02:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [-]	[02:02]
benkay	may i please have user name for mpex socket?	[02:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.00899 = 0.036 BTC [+]	[02:02]
kakobrekla	see pm	[02:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.009 = 0.9 BTC [+]	[02:04]
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benkay	;;tslb	[02:16]
gribble	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 20 seconds	[02:16]
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error4733	freenode under DDoS	[02:47]
error4733	SELL SELL SELL	[02:48]
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mircea_popescu	heh	[02:51]
Bowjob	selll	[02:52]
Bowjob	sell	[02:52]
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mircea_popescu	error4733 did they announce ?	[02:53]
Bowjob	mp is your trolling SA contest still up for grabs?	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[02:55]
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Bowjob	im trolling gfaqs with coins as practice.. still training	[02:55]
Bowjob	lol	[02:55]
Bowjob	kk	[02:55]
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mircea_popescu	lol remember when i used to pay .5 btc for an account there	[02:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 389 @ 0.0007 = 0.2723 BTC [-]	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	now it's like... 0.2 ?	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	lol.	[02:56]
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Bowjob	yah i guess	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	they shrunk.	[02:56]
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Bowjob	someone gambled 17 BTC to S.Dice with their Mt gox account	[02:59]
Bowjob	it seems the gamble won..	[02:59]
Bowjob	but theres no way to tel from which account it came from...	[02:59]
Bowjob	so the gambler is SOL it seems	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	ouch	[03:01]
mircea_popescu	pity we don't have the rota anymoar.	[03:01]
Bowjob	maybe that guy was angle shooting	[03:02]
Bowjob	saying he accidentally sent it to dice instead of his account	[03:02]
Bowjob	so erik would refund him	[03:02]
Bowjob	the same thing happened to this dude back then in dec, lost 50 btc	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	possibly so.	[03:05]
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sgornick	Bowjob: There's someone on the forum just claiming 21 lost that way.	[03:12]
Bowjob	yeah were tlking about the same guy	[03:12]
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Bowjob	he bet 17, won it.. but then the money got sent to mt gox	[03:13]
sgornick	> but theres no way to tel from which account it came from...	[03:13]
sgornick	You mean to which Mt. Gox account it went.	[03:13]
sgornick	Well, Mt Gox can tell. They have better things to do than track down mistakenly made SD payments though.	[03:14]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[03:16]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 42.38580, Best ask: 42.39209, Bid-ask spread: 0.00629, Last trade: 42.39209, 24 hour volume: 118703.21738512, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.39283	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	that guy must be real confused.	[03:24]
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mircea_popescu	hey, is it the guy who misidentified someone else's bet on bitbet as his own and rose hell here a few days ago ?	[03:24]
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BingoBongo	If only I could reread that post on Trilema...	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo which ?	[03:25]
BingoBongo	The BBet post.	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	o o	[03:25]
BingoBongo	Mr. Imaginary bet.	[03:25]
BingoBongo	I actually came on here today because i was wondering why I couldn't ready your classic on the housing crisis.	[03:26]
BingoBongo	*read	[03:26]
B0g4r7_	beetlebee BenderCoin BingoBongo bit14 BitHub bitit blu3gr1ffon Bowjob BTCTrader2 burnside	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo http://pastebin.com/TkqAG5ie	[03:27]
BingoBongo	Thanks. Have you though about just storing a copy of the Trilema archive in the namecoin blockchain. I don't think they'd mind.	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	you know trilema is like 7k articles, over 10mb of plaintext	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	ahem	[03:28]
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mircea_popescu	over 10mn words = like 70mb of text	[03:28]
BingoBongo	It's namecoin. They'll take anything.	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[03:28]
mod6	lol oh yeah JimRogers	[03:29]
thestringpuller	;;calc 2.5 / 7	[03:38]
gribble	0.357142857143	[03:38]
thestringpuller	;;calc (2.5 / 7) * 140	[03:38]
gribble	50	[03:38]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[03:39]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 42.70000, Best ask: 42.81500, Bid-ask spread: 0.11500, Last trade: 42.78384, 24 hour volume: 114078.83449030, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.60795	[03:39]
ThickAsThieves	;;estimate	[03:39]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 4755826.83674 based on data since last change \| 4747165.78694 based on data for last three days	[03:39]
BingoBongo	;;asks 1000	[03:39]
gribble	There are currently 111370.77 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 9613421.27709 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0052 seconds	[03:39]
BingoBongo	Sell orders about trippled since the last time I asked that...	[03:40]
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Bowjob	eh	[03:41]
Bowjob	wait till they hit 10k	[03:41]
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Namworld	They won't hit 10k...	[03:43]
BingoBongo	;;asks 10000	[03:43]
gribble	There are currently 115133.36 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 17157717.7085 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0056 seconds	[03:43]
BingoBongo	Maybe they will...	[03:44]
Namworld	No...	[03:44]
Namworld	as price go up, people tend to start putting money in the way.	[03:44]
BingoBongo	;;asks 100	[03:45]
gribble	There are currently 98810.011 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5632319.28639 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0051 seconds	[03:46]
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Namworld	So no manual deposit I get it...	[03:47]
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aethero	What happened to MPEX?	[03:53]
Namworld	being DDoS'ed	[03:53]
aethero	What type of ddos?	[03:53]
Namworld	I have no idea	[03:53]
Namworld	anyway, MPEx will be getting an upgrade too	[03:54]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[03:54]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 41.75902, Best ask: 41.98351, Bid-ask spread: 0.22449, Last trade: 41.75902, 24 hour volume: 112921.07904056, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.64678	[03:54]
Namworld	You can access MPEx from a proxy such as: http://mpex.coinbr.com/	[03:54]
Bowjob	oh no. we are crashing again	[03:54]
Namworld	But you'll see there's an updating message.	[03:54]
Namworld	Bowjob: of course...	[03:54]
aethero	erk	[03:55]
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Namworld	Why would price madly like that and stay like that?	[03:55]
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jcpham	i'm gona have to say bitcoin	[03:56]
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Namworld	Wrong answer... that's the answer to why it raised, not why it would stay like that.	[03:58]
jcpham	heh	[03:59]
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dub	its a jcsham	[04:03]
BingoBongo	You'd be surprised Namworld the things that Dunning-Kruger can explain. It's like the new Goodwin, but for the Slate crowd.	[04:03]
Namworld	What does Dunning-Kruger has to do with it?	[04:06]
Namworld	Everyone thinks they're skilled because they buy BTC higher and higher because it keeps going higher and higher?	[04:07]
BingoBongo	It's why we could hit 10,000. Coinlab biting off more than they can chew and somehow instead of a flash crash we get a flash rally when they are hacked. Also yes your second point.	[04:07]
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BingoBongo	A combination of the two could probably make a new normal though.	[04:08]
Chilca	mpex still down?	[04:09]
dub	yes	[04:09]
Chilca	thanks, is there any status of the DDOS?	[04:09]
Namworld	I bet after it all settles, people who kept buying will be apoplectic with explanations and sound just like people after the dotcom bubble...	[04:10]
Bugpowder	I will tell u skilled	[04:11]
Bugpowder	Sell 500 at 47-48.89	[04:11]
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Bugpowder	Buy 200 @ 36.17 and 33.335	[04:12]
Bugpowder	Sell 100@ 44.47	[04:12]
dub	Chilca: sounds like it is ongoing but mpex has now been taken offline for upgrades	[04:12]
Bugpowder	Sign up for gox wire	[04:12]
Bugpowder	Come back mpex	[04:13]
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jborkl_	Bitcoin chart reminds me of silver chart,just compressed	[04:14]
Namworld	MPEx is a bit late on schedule for the upgrades	[04:14]
dub	he said the 8th	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	well... it's like 4am on the 8th so.	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	a bit later than 1am	[04:15]
Namworld	yeah	[04:15]
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dub	its actually 3pm on teh 8th	[04:15]
dub	in the earliest TZ anyway	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	a well	[04:16]
Namworld	Honestly, with upgrades, it's always hard to estimate.	[04:16]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[04:16]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 41.80100, Best ask: 41.98351, Bid-ask spread: 0.18251, Last trade: 41.91771, 24 hour volume: 109127.80902302, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.65552	[04:16]
Namworld	Can take twice or half the time or more.	[04:16]
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mircea_popescu	anyweay, the first irc bot should be around in a few hours i think	[04:17]
Namworld	irc bot?	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[04:17]
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Namworld	I'm curious about that now.	[04:18]
Diablo-D3	oh?	[04:20]
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reddddd	@CoinBr What's the point of having a support forum if you're not going to use it more major stuff like this?	[04:22]
dub	you can get to coinbr?	[04:23]
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dub	oh bitcoinforum.com, good point	[04:25]
reddddd	@dub, yeah	[04:25]
error4733	jborkl @ 3:14 http://www.businessinsider.com/this-chart-of-bitcoins-is-bananas-and-it-looks-a-lot-like-the-price-of-gold-2013-3	[04:28]
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reddddd	CoinBr also seems to have a twitter account that could have used an update. There are so many better ways to let customers know what the hell is going on than just IRC.	[04:30]
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mircea_popescu	reddddd there's nothing better than irc.	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	Namworld you'll be able to go something like #post blabla and the bot will answer with an url to a pastebin with your response.	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	where ofcourse blabla is the pastebin id	[04:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.444 = 0.888 BTC [+]	[04:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.440001 = 1.76 BTC [-]	[04:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.44000006 = 1.32 BTC [-]	[04:36]
Namworld	neat	[04:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.5 = 4 BTC [+]	[04:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [+]	[04:49]
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dub	-dev is so retarded	[04:50]
Namworld	What's happening in there?	[04:51]
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dub	novels are being written to explain how fees work to a novice	[04:51]
dub	the simple answer is bitcoin is stupid wrt fees	[04:52]
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Bowjob	;;ticker	[04:59]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 42.62827, Best ask: 42.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16173, Last trade: 42.80000, 24 hour volume: 104745.97636275, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.61786	[04:59]
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mircea_popescu	"Pimples can be treated by various acne medications prescribed by a dermatologist, or purchased at a drug store with a wide variety of treatments."	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	dude i dunno if i'd purchase pimples	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	even at the store.	[05:13]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: ...	[05:15]
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BingoBongo	You know medicine is fucked when leukemia is easier to treat than pimples.	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	im just quoting from the retardopedia.	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	you know, back 300 years ago when the encyclopedists came up with the first one, it was a monument of erudition	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	and good writing.	[05:16]
BingoBongo	No encyclopedia has ever been good	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	diderot & d'alembert's was.	[05:17]
Diablo-D3	pimples is very easy to treat	[05:17]
Diablo-D3	modern medicine refuses to accept the treatment because they can't charge obscene amounts of money for it	[05:17]
Diablo-D3	take high doses of omega 6 for the rest of your life.	[05:17]
BingoBongo	My french isn't good enough to make an informed opinion on Diderot's	[05:17]
Diablo-D3	not only does it cure pimples, it cures and lessens lots of other things	[05:17]
BingoBongo	Leukemia is easy to treat too. Eat a bunch of methotrexate and live.	[05:18]
Diablo-D3	through in 5000 IU of vitamin D daily, and you'll probably add another ten years to your life	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo pick a page and read outloud	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	im willing to go on a limb and say you'll get my point	[05:18]
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BingoBongo	What am I reading from again, Retardo-wiki'wiki'wiki'wha?	[05:23]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBongo l'encyclopedie.	[05:23]
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mircea_popescu	l'encyclopedie	[05:24]
BingoBongo	Rubeta: a poison derived from the juice of a frog. Juvenal wrote of a lady who mingled this kind of poison in wine and presented it to her husband	[05:29]
BingoBongo	from http://www.alembert.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=611399672&catid=665689230:poison&Itemid=127	[05:31]
BingoBongo	Seems almost more like a dictionary	[05:33]
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BingoBongo	I'll dig deeper	[05:33]
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BingoBongo	What little french I've read mircea_popescu has been at least 200 years newer	[05:35]
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mircea_popescu	:p	[05:37]
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mircea_popescu	you don't have to translate it	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	just read it, outloud.	[05:38]
BitHub	almost time for teh weekend	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	Ce qu'on appelle bonheur, est une idée abstraite, composée de quelques idées de plaisir ; car qui n'a qu'un moment de plaisir n'est point un homme heureux ; de même qu'un moment de douleur ne fait point un homme malheureux. Le plaisir est plus rapide que le bonheur, & le bonheur plus passager que la félicité. Quand on dit je suis heureux dans ce moment, on abuse du mot, & cela ne veut dire que j'ai du plaisir : q	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	uand on a des plaisirs un peu répétés, on peut dans cet espace de tems se dire heureux ; quand ce bonheur dure un peu plus, c'est un état de félicité ; on est quelquefois bien loin d'être heureux dans la prospérité, comme un malade dégoûté ne mange rien d'un grand festin préparé pour lui.	[05:39]
Bowjob	"bonheur"	[05:44]
Bowjob	=boner?	[05:44]
mircea_popescu	sorta like a low roar happines	[05:47]
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BingoBongo	mircea_popescu it isn't that unlike James	[05:48]
BingoBongo	It is a familiar sentiment	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	james who ?	[05:50]
BitHub	mircea coming to australia this weekend?	[05:51]
BingoBongo	William James, one of maybe three Americans introspective enough about the pecuiar brand of manic misery here to approach a reasonble target for a philosopher	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	ah william james. okay	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	BitHub not bloody likely :D	[05:52]
BitHub	haha	[05:52]
BitHub	where the bloody hell are ya	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	timisoara.	[05:52]
BitHub	lets go visit kimdotcom i'm bored	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	bloody hell.	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	send a wire. nothing happens.	[05:53]
BitHub	lul	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	call the bank ready to bite their head off for being idiots	[05:54]
BitHub	bloody hell	[05:54]
mircea_popescu	turns out... the... wire...system... is... down.	[05:54]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck are these people doing over there.	[05:54]
BitHub	seems odd when someone else says it	[05:54]
BitHub	being a bunch of cunty's?	[05:54]
mircea_popescu	the us is falling apart.	[05:54]
mircea_popescu	i mean, bitcoin transactions taking 6 hours ? okay. its some internet funny money nobody heard about.	[05:54]
mircea_popescu	but when my banker has to tell me he failed because the wire system is down...	[05:55]
BitHub	dood stop complaining	[05:55]
BitHub	i had to sit a cafe for 6 hours just to wait for 1 confirm	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	it's not even complaining. i'm awed i guess.	[05:55]
BitHub	it was hell	[05:55]
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mod6	sup mpexbot	[06:07]
mod6	(20:09) < BitHub> DEATH TO SD	[06:09]
mod6	here we go again	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	lol he's trolling.	[06:10]
BitHub	i didn't care before till i had to start waiting hours and hours and hours for 1 confirm	[06:10]
BitHub	now its personal	[06:10]
mod6	ahh, successfull troll 9/10	[06:10]
mod6	oh no troll then	[06:10]
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mircea_popescu	guess that makes me successfull troll 10/10	[06:11]
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jcpham	mod6 agreed	[06:16]
jcpham	like adhd chat	[06:16]
mod6	this stuff about SD is getting out of hand	[06:16]
jcpham	i don't care so much about SD	[06:17]
jcpham	if txns aren't going through that's a problem	[06:17]
jcpham	a problem i think miners should capitalize on	[06:17]
jcpham	i'm not sure how though	[06:18]
jcpham	if SD wants its blocks mined it needs to pay a toll	[06:18]
jcpham	it needs a pool in its pocket	[06:18]
topace_	how goes the mpex upgrades/"overhaul" ?	[06:18]
jcpham	that's why i pay a fee on my txns, because i want them to go through	[06:19]
BitHub	i agree	[06:20]
BitHub	slap a toll in there	[06:20]
jcpham	specialized pools should crop up soon	[06:20]
mod6	what is going on...	[06:20]
BitHub	so you mean just a mining farm just for SD transactions?	[06:20]
mod6	so tx's are not being processed at all?	[06:20]
jcpham	in some cases they are backing up because of the 250kb block limit	[06:21]
jcpham	afaiunderstand it	[06:21]
jcpham	luke-jr and others primarily blame this on SD	[06:21]
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jcpham	and then some say the devs should all hold hands and increase it	[06:22]
BingoBongo	I blame bitvisitor. At least some SD transactions carry appreciable amunts of bitcoins.	[06:22]
mod6	yeah, read about that shit earlier...	[06:22]
mod6	today has been insane even outside of btc today, hard to keep up	[06:23]
mod6	so basically btc is fucked	[06:23]
BingoBongo	Btc is only fucked in the sense it is having fun getting its dick wet	[06:24]
mod6	if they move up to 1Mb that buys them some time, but isn't any different then what the global central banks are doing	[06:24]
mod6	buying time	[06:24]
jcpham	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150405.0;topicseen	[06:24]
jcpham	the "SD is spam" idea has traction	[06:25]
mod6	yeah, looks like it	[06:26]
jcpham	http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html	[06:27]
jcpham	At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the	[06:27]
jcpham	network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to	[06:27]
jcpham	specialists with server farms of specialized hardware. A server farm would	[06:27]
jcpham	only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with	[06:27]
jcpham	that one node.	[06:27]
jcpham	assume we're close to the point of full node/ merkle nodes	[06:27]
jcpham	what happens to SD if pools or full nodes implement that patch	[06:28]
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Diablo-D3	jcpham: dude	[06:28]
Diablo-D3	as it stands	[06:28]
Diablo-D3	without any patch	[06:28]
Diablo-D3	bitcoin will just shove SD tx out because they don't pay fees	[06:28]
BitHub	i got so angry i sold over 1000 sdice shares for whatever the fuck price, something cheap and nasty	[06:29]
jcpham	too much tin foil	[06:29]
BitHub	fuck them	[06:29]
jcpham	not enough beer. my apologies	[06:29]
mod6	i'm gonna guess they will cut SD out, and then SD will just pay fees and maybe raise betting levels?	[06:29]
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mod6	there was talk about raising min fee to .01 or something, but that doesn't give incentive to not use anything else gay like PP	[06:30]
mod6	now, see, i thought that EV kept sayin how he pays fee's and the miners are getting rich off the fee's alone...	[06:31]
mod6	ala, something like `SD has paid more in fee's than all the rest of the tx's combined'... must find link...	[06:32]
mod6	one sec.	[06:32]
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mod6	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145510.msg1559267#msg1559267	[06:33]
mod6	there	[06:33]
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smickles	$coin	[06:33]
mpexbot	smickles: Error: "coin" is not a valid command.	[06:33]
smickles	fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu	[06:34]
mod6	so i think that SD pays the fee's which is what got me so worked up this morning reading all of Luke-jr's crusade to rid the world of SD	[06:36]
mod6	but the blocksize thing is a seperate problem.	[06:36]
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mircea_popescu	Btc is only fucked in the sense it is having fun getting its dick wet << this.	[06:38]
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mircea_popescu	how goes the mpex upgrades/"overhaul" ? << the mpexbot just showed up	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	jcpham read the next reply from that dude.	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09968.html	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	he's brilliant.	[06:39]
BingoBongo	$OIX	[06:39]
mpexbot	BingoBongo: Error: "OIX" is not a valid command.	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	who is he anyway ?	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	$dix	[06:39]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Error: "dix" is not a valid command.	[06:39]
doctor_pullfingr	can we speculate that the ddos against mpex is retaliation for SD spam?	[06:39]
mod6	maybe	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	lol i don't think luke has the resources for something like this.	[06:40]
BitHub	what's the price of SD now?	[06:40]
BitHub	wonder if its gone down a bit	[06:40]
mircea_popescu	BitHub not appreciably changed.	[06:40]
BitHub	not like yesterday when everyone thought mpex was done for hey	[06:40]
BingoBongo	Luke has too well developed though weird sense of ethics for a DDOS	[06:41]
jcpham	that message thread may wind up framed in the luvre or some shit	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	they did ?!	[06:41]
BitHub	yeah remember mircea everyone in otc was panicing	[06:41]
BitHub	lulz	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	lol	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	mpex ain't done for till i say	[06:42]
mircea_popescu	and i'm niot even fat.	[06:42]
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BitHub	fiat :P	[06:42]
mircea_popescu	anyone saw "seek and destroy" ?	[06:42]
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mircea_popescu	christopher walken movie	[06:42]
BitHub	ummm nope	[06:43]
BitHub	good?	[06:43]
mircea_popescu	its surreal	[06:43]
jcpham	mircea_popescu you should partake in -otc for a bit	[06:43]
mircea_popescu	i dunno why it didn't get more traction, should be a cult classic.	[06:43]
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jcpham	it's total anarchy	[06:43]
BitHub	what year?	[06:43]
mircea_popescu	1995	[06:43]
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mircea_popescu	jcpham lol	[06:43]
jcpham	it's total anarchy	[06:44]
BitHub	my bad jcpham	[06:44]
BitHub	i think its my fault	[06:44]
jcpham	nope	[06:44]
jcpham	channel needs desperately to be +m	[06:44]
mircea_popescu	pity it's +m and not +fuckyouyourestupid	[06:44]
mircea_popescu	which would be the proper name of that flag	[06:44]
mircea_popescu	i guess it's too long	[06:44]
BitHub	are you sure he's in that movie mircea?	[06:45]
BitHub	nothing on imdb	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	yes im sure.	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	hum lets see	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114371/	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	tghere. scorsese also has a cameo	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	he plays a tax accountant for the state of florida lol	[06:45]
BitHub	ahh search not seek :P	[06:45]
BitHub	lul scorses wtf	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	o sorry my bad	[06:45]
jcpham	i just realized the other day that mario puzo did superman	[06:46]
jcpham	the original screenplay	[06:46]
BitHub	nice same guy as godfather	[06:46]
jcpham	and jor-el is the fucking godfather	[06:46]
BitHub	ahh yeah that's right he did play jor-el	[06:46]
jcpham	do you think when they were filming the godfather and made money	[06:46]
jcpham	marlon brando was like	[06:46]
jcpham	you know i'd really like to be superman	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	lol	[06:47]
BitHub	fuck man how good was marlon brando	[06:47]
jcpham	and that was as close as he came to it	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	jcpham do you know the one where marlon brando went like... hey, i'd like to rape this 19 yo	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	and so they did it ?	[06:47]
jcpham	hrm sounds questionably legal	[06:47]
BitHub	wat?	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	girl got total rape victim shock syndrome	[06:48]
maximian	These morons are gonna kill Bitcoin with this anti-SD crusade…	[06:48]
mircea_popescu	became like, a feminist and everything. total tableau.	[06:48]
BitHub	he raped someone?	[06:48]
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mircea_popescu	maximian tell you something : if morons are gonna kills anything then fuck that anything.	[06:48]
mircea_popescu	BitHub yes.	[06:48]
mircea_popescu	anal sex too	[06:48]
mircea_popescu	with butter.	[06:48]
BitHub	i doubt it	[06:48]
mircea_popescu	its a fact.	[06:48]
BitHub	nah	[06:49]
BingoBongo	The anti-SD crusade isn't going to kill bitcoin. The crusaders are more people who liberated their bitcoins by freeing them into S.Dice's arms. Probably... except for Luke.	[06:49]
maximian	the problem is their little "SD is spam" meme is starting to spread	[06:49]
mod6	(20:48) < maximian> These morons are gonna kill Bitcoin with this anti-SD crusade... <<< this	[06:49]
BitHub	the coolest thing about brando was when he sent an indian woman to collect his oscar for his role in the godfather	[06:49]
mircea_popescu	BitHub http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-469646/I-felt-raped-Brando.html	[06:50]
BitHub	i "felt" raped	[06:50]
BitHub	lulz	[06:50]
mircea_popescu	maximian mod6 people fail to realise this, but there's a good reason and great strategic advantage in the girl's fuck you attitude.	[06:50]
mod6	(20:46) <+mod6> "First, SD has paid more mining fees than everyone else in the world, combined." << Is this a lie?	[06:50]
mod6	(20:46) <+Luke-Jr> mod6: yes	[06:50]
mod6	there it is folks	[06:50]
BitHub	oh yeah i remember this movie	[06:51]
BitHub	it was pretty friggen psycho	[06:51]
mircea_popescu	no meme spreads past the point where someone's holding a club	[06:51]
BitHub	i doubt it tho mircea	[06:51]
mircea_popescu	mod6 the guy's insane, sd paid like 55% of all fees ever paid	[06:51]
maximian	DailyAnarchist put it right it a bitcointalk thread: if nobody knew what the source of these "spam" transactions were, then the discussion would be about how to improve the system to handle more transactions. The fact that the crusaders know these transactions are from SatoshiDice has clouded their judgement.	[06:51]
mircea_popescu	maximian its not even that.	[06:51]
mod6	mircea_popescu: im /nearly/ at a loss for words.	[06:51]
BitHub	but even if he did, meh that's his personal life, still the best actor	[06:51]
mircea_popescu	it's simple drama. some people who mean very little started to notice.	[06:51]
mircea_popescu	and are trying to inject themselves into the public eye	[06:52]
mircea_popescu	how is that accomplished ? why, crusade for "the betterment".	[06:52]
mircea_popescu	Luke-Jr is a sort of bitcoin obama.	[06:52]
mircea_popescu	the thing is... unlike fiat that shit doesn't work here.	[06:52]
BitHub	bitcoin obama lulz	[06:52]
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mircea_popescu	well... for anything other than comedic relief.	[06:52]
BitHub	he gave me a pretty lulz neg review	[06:52]
mod6	heheh	[06:52]
mircea_popescu	at any rate, drama backs bitcoin, so, all this is good.	[06:52]
mod6	BitHub: and you're on Luke-jr's side?!?!?	[06:53]
maximian	it raises my hackles, I tell you! :)	[06:53]
BitHub	heh i'm not on his side	[06:53]
BitHub	but i do have beef with sdice atm	[06:53]
mod6	mircea_popescu: haha drama is right. BTC has more drama than Lifetime Channel.	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	mod6 imagine how it'll be when women finally discover it.	[06:54]
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mircea_popescu	otc made out of ~100 middle aged women with nothing better to do	[06:54]
BingoBongo	bitcoin-assets we've taken the family car apart six times today just to get some quiet time	[06:55]
mod6	(20:54) < jcpham> luke-jr if you don't stfu about SD i'm going to burn your church down	[06:55]
mircea_popescu	lol	[06:55]
mod6	(20:54) <+Luke-Jr> jcpham: I'll be there to shoot you when you try.	[06:55]
mod6	(20:55) < jcpham> :)	[06:55]
mod6	(20:55) <+mod6> wwjd	[06:55]
mircea_popescu	where's that church anyway ?	[06:55]
BingoBongo	Rome isn't it? He's catholic his local stuff doesn't matter. I just wonder which of the BitBet pope bets are his.	[06:56]
mod6	FL i guess	[06:56]
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doctor_pullfingr	GoDaddy got semi famous off the savetoby controversy. Then got really famous off the Superbowl controversy. I think S.Dice should milk this controversy for everything it's got. shout S.Dice is spam from the mountaintops	[06:57]
doctor_pullfingr	I own shares btw	[06:58]
doctor_pullfingr	http://savetoby.com/	[06:58]
mircea_popescu	lol	[06:59]
mod6	(20:58) <+Luke-Jr> anyhow, I was just trying to get a feel for how many people would run a counter-SD client if I take the time to write the code	[06:59]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, goddady is a piece of shit.	[06:59]
mod6	this is like his own fork isn't it?	[06:59]
maximian	evoorhees should reinvest his profits into a massive mining pool - that's probably the surest way to make the crusaders irrelevant.	[06:59]
mod6	i mean he's not saying that, but thats what it is.	[07:00]
mircea_popescu	maximian at this point in the game it's the surest way to go bankrupt.	[07:00]
BitHub	POS name	[07:00]
mircea_popescu	all the scams...	[07:00]
Luke-Jr	maximian: the surest way is to stop flooding and implement SD properly	[07:00]
Luke-Jr	maximian: far cheaper too	[07:00]
mircea_popescu	this is properly dood.	[07:00]
maximian	"properly"	[07:00]
mod6	Luke-Jr: what you're proposing is a hard fork of the blockchain right?	[07:00]
mircea_popescu	mod6 so he starts his own client, what's the big deal ?	[07:00]
Luke-Jr	heck, I'd even offer to do it for him except my stupid State has laws against writing code for gambling -.-	[07:00]
Luke-Jr	mod6: no	[07:00]
mod6	ok. i don't care if he starts his own client.	[07:00]
mircea_popescu	face facts : sooner or later Luke-Jr will end up in a little corner playing with some correct toys nobody cares about	[07:00]
BitHub	serious Luke?	[07:01]
mod6	as long as everyone else figures out how to solve the block size issue.	[07:01]
mircea_popescu	this is how it goes, nothing wrong in it.	[07:01]
BitHub	laws against writing code?	[07:01]
maximian	If you didn't know the origin of the transactions, what would you say?	[07:01]
mod6	SD is another problem	[07:01]
BitHub	that's crazy	[07:01]
mod6	or not	[07:01]
Luke-Jr	BitHub: yes, it's stupid	[07:01]
mod6	but... whatever. they're two seperate topics	[07:01]
BitHub	Luke so you could fly to mexico and be all sweet?	[07:01]
Luke-Jr	why the USA has such a big problem with gambling, I'll probably never understand	[07:01]
mod6	what if SD wasnt a gaming site?	[07:01]
Luke-Jr	BitHub: I'm not interested in relocation to Mexico.	[07:01]
BitHub	so online gambling is illegal but guns is sweet? haha	[07:01]
mod6	what if it was just some random tx's from the same host that paid the fee's?	[07:01]
mod6	would you say the same thing?	[07:01]
Luke-Jr	mod6: a flood is a flood.	[07:02]
BitHub	Luke-Jr ya i know was thinking if you spent a week there adn wrote the code, would that be legal?	[07:02]
Luke-Jr	mod6: I don't care how it's financed	[07:02]
Luke-Jr	BitHub: dunno	[07:02]
BitHub	hmm i think you would get away with it :)	[07:02]
mod6	Luke-Jr: ok. so what happens when there are 1,000,000 bitcoin users and they all create 5 new tx's per day.	[07:02]
mod6	what then? we just shut the fucking doors and go home?	[07:02]
mod6	christ on a pony this is idiotic	[07:03]
Luke-Jr	mod6: no, that's far less than SD does	[07:03]
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mod6	you're saying that SD does more than 5 million tx's per day?	[07:03]
Luke-Jr	mod6: I'm saying adoption matters.	[07:03]
Luke-Jr	1,000,000 nodes can handle 5 mil txs	[07:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.446 = 2.23 BTC [-]	[07:04]
mircea_popescu	with the current broken bitcoin-qt there will never, ever, no matter what be 1mn nodes.	[07:04]
mircea_popescu	ever.	[07:04]
mod6	Luke-Jr: yes, adoption matters, you know what I have guys download? something for their android	[07:04]
mod6	not the full client.	[07:04]
mod6	i don't want them to wait 3 days	[07:04]
Luke-Jr	mircea_popescu: 1,000,000 users also brings a number more developers onboard	[07:05]
mircea_popescu	Luke-Jr what the fuck are you thinking this is, chicken lay eggs ?	[07:05]
Luke-Jr	mod6: eventually, Bitcoin-Qt will be instant-on	[07:05]
mircea_popescu	herpderp joe sixpack becomes a dev if you aggregate 5000 of them !?	[07:05]
mircea_popescu	money brings devs.	[07:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]	[07:05]
Luke-Jr	http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html <-- Satoshi on the necessity of adoption to scale	[07:05]
mircea_popescu	there was never good myspace code. ever.	[07:06]
mircea_popescu	myspace had a billion users.	[07:06]
mircea_popescu	the best thing you can do for adoption to scale right now is to fix the motherfucking client.	[07:06]
mircea_popescu	rather than trying to argue with a tank.	[07:06]
Luke-Jr	the client isn't broken.	[07:07]
BitHub	lul myspace	[07:07]
mircea_popescu	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lBXQVHyQ1VA/TNczMI1ojSI/AAAAAAAAAq4/7tE5YUtGIz4/s1600/Tank_over_car.jpg	[07:07]
mircea_popescu	car that tried to argue with a tank.	[07:07]
mircea_popescu	the client is beyond broken.	[07:07]
mircea_popescu	actually it may be the worst piece of crap ever used by this many people.	[07:07]
mod6	so you're gonna make your own client, that'll have your branch (exclusion of '1dice') in there native?	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	simple illustrative point : i can pick a torrent worth 7gb right now, anything with less than 20 seeders	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	and it will be downloaded in an hour.	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	this means blockchain MUST be downloaded in 15 minutes tops.	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	TOPS.	[07:09]
mod6	yeah, torrents are uber fast	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	until the point that's the case none of you people have any business eating even.	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	forget having oppinions. just tap the kbd till it does it.	[07:10]
jcpham	lots of info for SD investors to speculate on	[07:10]
mod6	vote with your coins!	[07:10]
mod6	lol	[07:10]
jcpham	i think this entire chat would be insider trading somehow	[07:11]
jcpham	now all we have to do is collude	[07:11]
jcpham	publicly	[07:11]
mod6	bah	[07:11]
BingoBongo	It's IRC this is public enough...	[07:11]
jcpham	you would think, but...	[07:12]
BitHub	it is?	[07:12]
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BingoBongo	any one know who Guest 11382 is?	[07:12]
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Bowjob	mhm anyone think bfl wont deliver by april?	[07:15]
BitHub	april 1st	[07:15]
BitHub	deliver you a big box with a letter inside it asking for money money	[07:16]
BitHub	more	[07:16]
BingoBongo	I bet they might, BitCOin's just playmoney anyway	[07:16]
Bowjob	gah	[07:17]
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BingoBongo	At least BitBet is online...	[07:22]
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mod6	are tx's going through though?	[07:22]
BingoBongo	Investigating that now	[07:24]
BingoBongo	Blockchain saw it... Let's see if it confirms...	[07:26]
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mod6	well, this one isn't too old, and it's got 19 confs: http://blockchain.info/tx/d8dac0508d27e922f957c893c896f6f887a7dc614c1aec1c89b27b943ff5be0f	[07:27]
mod6	ima keep lookin	[07:27]
BingoBongo	http://blockchain.info/tx-index/59136614/289e2dc6ac2cd1f3e8d5ec126741b304caf1e16b3e746eadd0a402dbc9910870 because the Dutch ar fucking Cuba's shit up right now...	[07:28]
mod6	thanks BingoBongo	[07:28]
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BingoBongo	You're welcome. It's one of those World Baseball Classic penny bets, because apparently that didn't have enough chutzpah to attract much interest. I've had too much vodka tonight to mess with the python script so I don't know at this weight if I will clear anything, but fuck it. Bitcoin is an MMORPG and that's what I'm telling the 5-0	[07:31]
mod6	for real lol	[07:32]
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SpNg	hey mircea_popescu I have been out of the loop the last couple days. What's going on with MPEx? I see that it's down right now.	[07:34]
BingoBongo	Bitcoin is a drama role playing game and it just so happens the tokens to play the game happen to be valued quite a bit. Like WoW gold.	[07:34]
mod6	im starting to think the same thing. like fast-times-at-btc-high.	[07:34]
BitHub	haha bingo, too true	[07:35]
BitHub	an expensive game of emotions	[07:35]
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mircea_popescu	SpNg well, past coupla days its been being ddosed	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	finally yest they got the proxies and everything.	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	working on bringing all back online.	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	there's a forum post the girl made summing up everything	[07:36]
SpNg	mircea_popescu: seriously? wtf? you have a link to the post?	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	ok 1 sec	[07:37]
SpNg	any public motive?	[07:37]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1598165#msg1598165	[07:37]
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mircea_popescu	i dunno dood, god knows i'm well loved and i can't think of anyone or anything that'd have it in for me.	[07:37]
SpNg	haha. love it.	[07:38]
BingoBongo	Maybe Coinlab, You just debuted that OIX thing that kind of threatened to replace MT Gox spot... Though you presented it more modestly.	[07:38]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBongo maybe.	[07:38]
mircea_popescu	tho tbh... what diff would it make to anyone if its gox spot or oix or a random number coming out of a hat.	[07:39]
mircea_popescu	as long as it's the consensus it's as good as any other, for a service provider.	[07:39]
BingoBongo	I mean the girl's been hammering the Gox is dead mantra and some noobs seem to be trusting her for a change. You might have survived the game long enough that people start to assume you're legit.	[07:40]
mircea_popescu	i think the legit part came in a while ago.	[07:40]
mod6	;;gpg info mircea_popescu	[07:40]
gribble	User 'mircea_popescu', with keyid 8A736F0E2FB7B452, fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri Jul 22 05:39:10 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=mircea_popescu . Currently not authenticated.	[07:40]
mircea_popescu	and the girl's been hammering the what ?!	[07:40]
mod6	july 22, 2011	[07:40]
BitHub	hammering BitHub	[07:41]
mod6	that's been a while now, longer than most of us	[07:41]
BitHub	u*	[07:41]
BingoBongo	The Coinlab buying Gox's USD book threatens Gox's sustainability angle	[07:41]
BitHub	:B	[07:41]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo im not even sure they seriously want the #1 spot.	[07:41]
BitHub	Bingo incorrect	[07:41]
BingoBongo	Ah, that's just my reading.	[07:41]
BitHub	they're are many peeps many working on ways for americans to get around coinlab into gox	[07:41]
mircea_popescu	but im pretty sure nothing was bought.	[07:41]
mod6	;;bc,tslb	[07:42]
gribble	Time since last block: 19 minutes and 16 seconds	[07:42]
mod6	of course	[07:42]
BitHub	i think you'll see a lil bump but gox should be okey :)	[07:42]
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BingoBongo	I dunno yCombinator has all of that renting apartments out to methheads money Mircea, it was probably either bought, hyped, or humiliated. I don't think Gox was forced, but I say this with a low degree of confidence.	[07:44]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo i'm with pigeons on that score :	[07:44]
BingoBongo	BitHub I trust it will be smooth, but the newbs opions shape the shouting	[07:44]
mircea_popescu	mtgox dispensed itself of the liabilitous us book	[07:45]
mircea_popescu	quite ellegantly at that.	[07:45]
BingoBongo	Coinlab probably though it was a bargain	[07:45]
mircea_popescu	it's how these things usually work.	[07:46]
mircea_popescu	after the french fiasco they certainly didn't feel the need for a replay, so.	[07:46]
mircea_popescu	it's a win-win : the noobs get bragging rights (which they don't know how to use, but hey, youth), mtgox gets out of some stick.	[07:47]
mircea_popescu	the us public becomes even more underserved, isolated, ghettoized	[07:47]
mircea_popescu	but then again that's unavoidable.	[07:47]
BingoBongo	Gox never really had the staff or skill to handle the low information customers	[07:47]
mircea_popescu	moreover, there's some lessons being learned here. everyone wants to be more like mpex.	[07:48]
BitHub	be nice is there was something just as big or popular as mtgox	[07:48]
BitHub	at least 4 places	[07:48]
BitHub	not good to depend just on mtgox?	[07:48]
mircea_popescu	maybe they'll crop up.	[07:49]
mircea_popescu	the thing is tho, the net result of mtgox's however we call it, incompetence, being stretched too thin	[07:49]
mircea_popescu	is that otc trade exploded,.	[07:49]
BingoBongo	ANd that's the crucial difference from 2011	[07:49]
mircea_popescu	they have been bleeding market share month by month by month. by now i wouldn't even bet they do a third.	[07:49]
mircea_popescu	in 2011 they had 80% hands down	[07:50]
mircea_popescu	this of course becomes problematic for pricing options.	[07:50]
mod6	;;bc,tslb	[07:51]
gribble	Time since last block: 27 minutes and 56 seconds	[07:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [+]	[07:51]
mod6	hardy fuckin har miners	[07:51]
BitHub	so is mpex going to do its own gox? :D	[07:51]
mircea_popescu	And thus it came to pass that the splendid son of bright-minded Keleos,	[07:51]
mircea_popescu	Dêmophôn, who was born to well-girded Metaneira	[07:51]
mod6	cross your fingers and pray to dog	[07:51]
mircea_popescu	well girded lol. that's a woman i'd like to meet.	[07:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4999988 BTC [+]	[07:52]
mircea_popescu	BitHub nope	[07:52]
mod6	awe	[07:52]
mircea_popescu	it's not a business i know anything about whatsoever.	[07:52]
mircea_popescu	nor do i think it has much future	[07:52]
BitHub	and that's stopped you before?	[07:52]
BitHub	lulz	[07:52]
mircea_popescu	BitHub yea ?	[07:52]
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BitHub	meh fiats	[07:53]
mircea_popescu	accincta.	[07:54]
mircea_popescu	do you suppose they meant tits ?	[07:54]
mircea_popescu	or ass ?	[07:54]
BitHub	hehe	[07:55]
mod6	this next block should be sizeable	[07:55]
BitHub	its such a good word, i use it for slang all the time	[07:55]
mod6	but its a 250k limit so the joke's on me LOL	[07:56]
mircea_popescu	i never understood how that 250k limit got to be there	[07:56]
BingoBongo	mod6 I would bet my bet makes it in this next block...	[07:56]
mod6	yeah, it should	[07:56]
mod6	mircea_popescu: yeah, that seems pretty strange to me now.	[07:56]
Bowjob	1 TB limit	[07:56]
Bowjob	raise dat limit	[07:56]
mircea_popescu	mod6 and you see, here's the problem :	[07:57]
mircea_popescu	recently i discovered the way bitcoind works is all quirky and based on assumptive limitations like that.	[07:57]
mircea_popescu	im starting to think one or several idiots can't code	[07:57]
mircea_popescu	and just write magic numbers everywhere	[07:57]
mircea_popescu	never heard of code and data sepparation etc.	[07:57]
mod6	do you believe there should be a block size limit at all?	[07:58]
BingoBongo	Another point for SD over most miners, BitcoinJ isn't as poorly coded as BitcoinD	[07:58]
mircea_popescu	mod6 well, that's moot. there was one to begin with.	[07:58]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo i've never read it/used it	[07:59]
mod6	oh... it seems to me that if 1 billion people send 1 satoshi in 5 years, it could be a 10gb block... who cares, process it	[07:59]
mod6	maybe im just retarded	[07:59]
mod6	i have been hit in the head a lot :S	[08:00]
mircea_popescu	mod6 the problem here tho is that bitcoin as it is is bitcoin as it is.	[08:00]
mircea_popescu	if i get married to you on the understanding that you always wear red underwear	[08:00]
mircea_popescu	as stupid as that may turn out to be, it's still in the fucking contract	[08:00]
BingoBongo	mircea_popescu it still follows many of the arbitrary limits (because bitcoind), but the code organization is much better. Kind of sad because well, Java.	[08:00]
mod6	right, so yeah, they wrote it in, no going back.	[08:01]
mircea_popescu	now, the only way to change something like that is the way gavin proposed it	[08:01]
mircea_popescu	ie, "let they who have anything to lose decide where it should be"	[08:01]
mircea_popescu	they who have anything to lose are, of course, the miners. so a system where miners vote somehow on standard block size may be a replacement, maybe.	[08:01]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo ya srsly. why the fuck do these people make these choices.	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	ruby on rails. java. what the fuck.	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	maybe it's a bad idea for coders to be allowed to chose their language.	[08:02]
mod6	na, gotta be able to pick the right tool for the job... but that doesn't always mean that the guy will make the best choice	[08:03]
mod6	i can still use a butter knife as a screwdriver	[08:03]
mod6	but its not best... im just retarded	[08:03]
BingoBongo	WordPress and a watch only wallet powered by ArmoryD is probably how I'd write a bitcoin site if I had to.	[08:03]
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mod6	yeah, wow. im blown away by some of this. how did I not zero in on these things?	[08:04]
mod6	its like punching myself in the dick	[08:04]
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mod6	;;bc,tslb	[08:04]
gribble	Time since last block: 41 minutes and 42 seconds	[08:04]
mod6	lol	[08:04]
Bowjob	s;;ticker	[08:06]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[08:06]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 42.50000, Best ask: 42.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 42.50000, 24 hour volume: 78229.70545564, 24 hour low: 40.11000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.23642	[08:06]
BingoBongo	Honestly the miners'll probably roll with whatever, making the margins work is their business. Let the pool operators cap block sizes and open up the daemon for everyone else.	[08:06]
BingoBongo	mod6 the bet made it in, miracle what a decent transaction fee can do	[08:08]
mircea_popescu	there's problem with open ended blocksize	[08:09]
mircea_popescu	for one, the bloat	[08:09]
mircea_popescu	for the other, security strictly depends on the block being finite.	[08:09]
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mircea_popescu	and is inverse of the block length	[08:09]
BingoBongo	pragmatism will lead miners to cap the size of their own blocks unless they want to birth hydrocephalitic orphans	[08:10]
mod6	BingoBongo: ok thanks man, i see you got one conf in this block: http://blockchain.info/block-index/355466/00000000000003bbf75f37b8a331938d6fb7dc61addf7bf6a97e95f8c9c0e5f0	[08:10]
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mod6	right, well i guess you dont want people putting in the wayback machine into the blockchain...	[08:11]
BingoBongo	mod6 and it is the first one. BitBet shows the bet as registered as well	[08:11]
mod6	good deal.	[08:12]
mircea_popescu	http://www.vice.com/read/new-york-cops-will-arrest-you-for-carrying-condoms	[08:12]
mircea_popescu	progress	[08:12]
mircea_popescu	have a large soda in a condom	[08:12]
mod6	yeah they're a bunch of Fascists	[08:13]
mod6	hitler was against very against smoking too	[08:13]
mircea_popescu	"Maybe some quota-filling cop thinks you look like a whore."	[08:14]
BingoBongo	Eh, take Canthaxanthin for a few months and walk around New York, some Cop will grab a real good feel.	[08:14]
mod6	BingoBongo: 2 confs now...	[08:15]
mod6	so at least with your .0025 fee, that was good enough	[08:15]
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BingoBongo	mod6 It has been my standard fee for about a month now. I'm not patient enough to send with less.	[08:16]
BingoBongo	Even on small transactions it is cheaper than a wire	[08:18]
mod6	nod	[08:19]
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mircea_popescu	what's that one do ?	[08:20]
BingoBongo	Canthaxanthin is a tanning pill	[08:20]
mod6	lol	[08:21]
mircea_popescu	a	[08:21]
mod6	ok gentlemen.	[08:21]
mircea_popescu	10 cents. seems legit.	[08:21]
mircea_popescu	http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/dita-von-teese-stuns-first-ever-3-d-175606524.html	[08:21]
mircea_popescu	no, she's not baring cunt. it's worse.	[08:22]
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hanbot	?	[08:30]
hanbot	hi	[08:30]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [+]	[08:32]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00072776 = 5.9312 BTC [-]	[08:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00075 = 3.8625 BTC [+]	[08:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.96000001 BTC [-]	[08:38]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]	[08:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]	[08:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24998 BTC [-]	[08:41]
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Rick__	When will you fix MPEx	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	hi Rick__	[08:57]
mircea_popescu	hang on for a minute here.	[08:57]
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mircea_popescu	$post ew4aaH8L	[09:00]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/gZhCDu2b	[09:00]
ZedsterX	I just got up to having my comp hacked....so what is your sitch now MP?	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	$depth	[09:02]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/7iJS63TY	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	$vwap	[09:02]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	heh	[09:02]
smickles	wtf?!!	[09:02]
smickles	i'm pro yo!	[09:02]
ZedsterX	anyone else in the channel have problem with attacks on their comp last night?	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	ok so! what you folks see here is a historical moment.	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	mpexbot is capable of proxing mpex trade server now.	[09:03]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Error: "is" is not a valid command.	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	cute.	[09:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]	[09:04]
ZedsterX	i guees not thx	[09:04]
smickles	for watever reason mpexbot's pro pastebin feature of posting >25 posts per day hasn't been enabled yet	[09:04]
Rick__	so what's mpexbot?	[09:04]
mircea_popescu	Rick__ it is a method of talking to mpex that can not be ddosed	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	as it has no known ip.	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	now, mpex infrastructure is being upgraded, and it will be back sometime today.	[09:05]
Rick__	okay,understand a bit	[09:05]
Rick__	Okay cool	[09:05]
Rick__	so many computer things that I dont understand	[09:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1337 @ 0.00075 = 1.0028 BTC [+]	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	Rick__ :)	[09:06]
BitHub	1337	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	ok so, im closing the ordering now, because i don't want inconsistencies. this is all testnet stuff.	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	but the good news is here to stay. mpexbot.	[09:07]
BitHub	is it hard to make a ticker from your api mircea?	[09:07]
mircea_popescu	worst case scenario just moved to "if 10 Gb pipe isn't enough to stop ddos, we just trade via mpexbot"	[09:08]
mircea_popescu	BitHub not really an api but still, i don't think so, it's all json after all.	[09:08]
BitHub	okey, hopefully i can feature a mpex ticker on my site soon, if its okey with you of course	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	surely.	[09:09]
BitHub	:) sweet	[09:10]
Rick__	so what's the s.dice price now?	[09:10]
Rick__	what command can I use to check the price	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	Rick__ the price hasn't appreciably changed since trade has been locked for the past ~12 hours	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	the PTs trade about the same levels.	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	!ticker btct gsdpt	[09:12]
assbot	[BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.00596 / 0.00599 / 0.00599 (92 shares, 0.6 BTC), 7D: 0.00261 / 0.00621 / 0.0065 (28529 shares, 177.2 BTC), 30D: 0.00261 / 0.00621 / 0.00687 (139940 shares, 868.7 BTC)	[09:12]
mircea_popescu	!ticker havelock sdice	[09:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.41510000 / 0.4566318 / 0.51000000 (197 shares, 89.95646538 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.55221757 / 0.68700000 (1696 shares, 936.56099770 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.63685913 / 0.76500000 (8993 shares, 5727.27416254 BTC)	[09:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4999988 = 2 BTC [+]	[09:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4999988 = 2.5 BTC [+]	[09:13]
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Bowjob	damn	[09:13]
Bowjob	shoulda bought some dice shares	[09:13]
Bowjob	coulda arb'd by now	[09:13]
Bowjob	lol	[09:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49999999 BTC [+]	[09:14]
deadweasel	lordy they tanked on bitfunder, .004	[09:14]
deadweasel	are they higher somewheres else?	[09:14]
BitHub	jesus	[09:14]
BitHub	that is low	[09:14]
maximian	last s.dice trade on mpex was something like 0.0058	[09:14]
maximian	it rebounded	[09:15]
ZedsterX	gotta be in for the long haul and ho-pe or dump	[09:15]
deadweasel	what should I do with 1600 shares on bitfunder?	[09:15]
deadweasel	oh that	[09:15]
deadweasel	hold and hope	[09:15]
BitHub	i doubt s.dice will be here for the long run	[09:15]
BitHub	i would dump and pump into jah mining and collect daily divs	[09:16]
BitHub	that's what i been doin	[09:16]
maximian	I wouldn't be so sure about that. S.dice is more than just a dice game, it's a brand	[09:16]
BitHub	a brand>	[09:16]
BitHub	?	[09:16]
deadweasel	i had some jah, was good, but I can't get rid of these sdice. bought at .55 sold at 75, then bought back in at .6 cos I'm still learning, that's why	[09:16]
mircea_popescu	lol	[09:17]
mircea_popescu	so then if you sell at .4 you're even money	[09:17]
BitHub	just get rid of them all deadweasel	[09:17]
BitHub	and pump it into jah, anything you'll loose you'll make up in the dail divs	[09:17]
deadweasel	if they are 58 on mpex, know anybody who wants them at .55!	[09:17]
deadweasel	it's a firesale!	[09:17]
maximian	yes, building brand awareness is expensive. the value of s.dice's brand awareness justifies the stock price alone.	[09:18]
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deadweasel	yeah, i'm going for divs only stocks these days. sdice may not make it to the next divs, as it is. the brand may make it through w/out the assets	[09:18]
maximian	Some big gaming concern is probably going to come in and scoop up s.dice	[09:18]
deadweasel	exactly, no more bitcoin divs	[09:18]
BitHub	lul gaming company	[09:18]
deadweasel	they'	[09:18]
ZedsterX	who/where is JAH?	[09:19]
BitHub	the core of the community hates S.DICE	[09:19]
maximian	An acquisition would be a great exit for all investors	[09:19]
BitHub	its spam	[09:19]
maximian	That's not true - some of the core devs, not all	[09:19]
BitHub	we just had a 5 hour tango convo about this before	[09:19]
BitHub	sorry some :)	[09:19]
maximian	There are enough mining pools who will always confirm s.dice transactions	[09:19]
deadweasel	let's not start this again	[09:19]
maximian	agreed :)	[09:19]
BitHub	agreed :)	[09:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 39 @ 0.5 = 19.5 BTC [+]	[09:20]
BitHub	its been a good day, have you seen all the giveaways on otc?	[09:20]
BitHub	i even got in on the action	[09:20]
BitHub	gave away some btc for twitter followers heh	[09:20]
deadweasel	that's good business right now. +1s and followers and likes	[09:21]
ZedsterX	jah mining is on MPEX? I have never seen this or is it called something else	[09:21]
deadweasel	bitpride is going to do the same thing as sdice?	[09:21]
BitHub	yep when i eventually get into full marketing mode i'll pay offering btc tips for peeps who paste their address to me on twitter or fb	[09:22]
BitHub	:)	[09:22]
BitHub	better than fb's advertising system	[09:22]
deadweasel	you should automate it --- mechanical turk for likes.	[09:22]
deadweasel	real people, can't get around that	[09:22]
BitHub	ahh i wish i could	[09:22]
deadweasel	you could	[09:22]
BitHub	but the coding, programming stuff, me doing it? is like getting the janitor to fly the airplane	[09:22]
BitHub	instead of a pilot	[09:23]
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deadweasel	spend some time to interview local college kids for an 'internship'. orjust pay them shit	[09:23]
BitHub	lul i'm paying a few programmers on here atm, slowly	[09:23]
deadweasel	until you get bigger then hire a better coder and scrap and redo	[09:23]
BitHub	it gets exe	[09:23]
deadweasel	yup	[09:23]
BitHub	:)	[09:24]
deadweasel	get the ones from india	[09:24]
Namworld	ZedsterX: no	[09:24]
deadweasel	srsly though, expectations of bitpride?	[09:24]
Namworld	idk about bitpride	[09:24]
BitHub	um bitpride i was looking at those shares but felt a bit shy	[09:24]
ZedsterX	Namworld: thx so where is it listed?	[09:24]
BitHub	its cool its something different but i dont know	[09:24]
Namworld	I got a few shares for the heck of it.	[09:24]
BitHub	bitfunder.com	[09:24]
deadweasel	i'd just rather have my btc going up than my shares going down.	[09:25]
Namworld	https://bitfunder.com/asset/JAH	[09:25]
ZedsterX	was buttfunder pointed at me?	[09:25]
ZedsterX	hehe thx guys	[09:25]
maximian	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/7iJS63TY has been removed already	[09:25]
BitHub	is jah the only onepaying daily divs on BF?	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	maximian i think they die in 10 minutes	[09:25]
BitHub	everyone else is weekly or monthly yeah?	[09:25]
maximian	ah, ok	[09:25]
maximian	I like the idea… but what if pastebin gets DDoS'd?	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	$vwap	[09:26]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[09:26]
maximian	that sucks	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	maximian move to a diff one	[09:26]
maximian	yeah	[09:26]
maximian	need a higher limit	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	maximian it's temporary tho. they've not credited the acct to pro status yet	[09:26]
maximian	i see	[09:26]
BitHub	ddos sucks	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	anyway, the surface keeps growing.	[09:27]
BitHub	is it really hard to combat it?	[09:27]
mircea_popescu	now the attacker has to take out all pastebins too ?	[09:27]
BitHub	or just really expensive?	[09:27]
mircea_popescu	BitHub it's impossible to combat it, in principle.	[09:27]
BitHub	shitty	[09:27]
mircea_popescu	mpex is pretty much the only thing that even has a prayer at it, but otherwise... nope.	[09:28]
BitHub	ahh yep true	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	they ARE expensive to do tho, so in a sense a self limiting condition	[09:28]
Rick__	when will be the new version of bitvps's website on?	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	Rick__ today.	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	o sorry	[09:28]
BitHub	any idea who's behind it?	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	i thought you were asking about mpecx	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	BitHub nope	[09:28]
Rick__	o,hehe	[09:28]
BitHub	bounty time?	[09:28]
Rick__	I have been waiting the new bitvps for a month	[09:29]
Rick__	they always say soon	[09:29]
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Bowjob	" * Show your support in asking the MPOE exchange where the S.DICE security is located, to de-list the security until the problem is addressed."	[09:29]
BitHub	free membership and 5btc to whoever finds	[09:29]
Bowjob	guys a huge dump is happening	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150493.0	[09:30]
Bowjob	http://coinlab.com/	[09:30]
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maximian	that misterbigg guy is a little slow	[09:31]
Bowjob	just increase the min bet	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	maximian he;s a funny guy. he was active in the s.dice thread back in august	[09:31]
Bowjob	0.1 BTC per bet or gtfo	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	then the girl found out about his dirty past	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	so he took a break	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	i see he's back now	[09:32]
maximian	hehheh…I wonder why he bothers	[09:32]
Bowjob	well, it took like over an hour to confirm my tx last night	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is where the cool kids are. hard to stay away	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob i had some quwued for 6.	[09:32]
Bowjob	damn	[09:32]
Bowjob	lol	[09:32]
Bowjob	imo we need a compromise. this blockchain bloat is annoying	[09:33]
deadweasel	can i push from bitfunder to havelock?	[09:33]
Bowjob	how about increasing the min bet on all dice games	[09:33]
Bowjob	0.1 or gtfo	[09:33]
Bowjob	that seems reasonable	[09:33]
deadweasel	i like that idea, until BTC is worth $100, 1000	[09:33]
BitHub	it wouldn't be that hard to get s.dice shut down	[09:33]
BitHub	i mean really	[09:33]
BitHub	they're based in usa right?	[09:34]
deadweasel	I think Sdice needs to handle the issue on their end, do their own gambling fork.	[09:34]
maximian	I do like all this s.dice exposure… being talked about is what keeps it on top	[09:34]
deadweasel	i dunno I'm not a dev,	[09:34]
BitHub	yeah its good pr for sure	[09:34]
deadweasel	anyway, how could I get my SDICE from bitfunder to havelock?	[09:34]
Namworld	They could easily take bitcoin deposits and have a fork for the sole purpose of calculating lucky numbers, nay?	[09:35]
BitHub	i just hope s.dice pays taxes	[09:35]
Namworld	giving a fork balance that can be cashed out... inconvenient tho	[09:36]
BitHub	for their sake	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	Namworld nay	[09:36]
Namworld	I don't know about that.	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	it wouldn't be trustworthy.	[09:36]
deadweasel	yeah, i don't know. I have no solutions. just shrinking asset value.	[09:37]
smickles	gaaw, wtf are these people on about, do the really thing some script,ajax heavy site would do better against a sustained ddos than a few
[09:37]
mircea_popescu	which people ?	[09:38]
Bowjob	the dice share holders will be opposed to delisting their shares	[09:38]
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Bowjob	wtf is mrbig thinking	[09:38]
smickles	people like that mrbig and such	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	define thinking.	[09:38]
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mircea_popescu	smickles the stupid want everything remade in their image	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	that such nonsense would require throwing away the edges doesn't worry them : they don't know what those are anyway	[09:39]
smickles	srsly, that was what I came back to when i went to the forum for the first time in a while	[09:39]
smickles	"grinds my gears" so to speak	[09:39]
Bowjob	the tx fees are there on top of the house edge yeah	[09:40]
smickles	and all the chuckleheads talking about raising the blocksize	[09:40]
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smickles	yogs! all of them yogs!	[09:40]
mircea_popescu	lol	[09:41]
mircea_popescu	now imagine how bitcoin would work if it were you know... like fiat	[09:41]
mircea_popescu	where the mobile vulgus actually had power.	[09:41]
mircea_popescu	it's kind of interesting how this all worked out btw. the -otc and forum, home of the unwashed masses, all revolutionary and shit. the -assets, where the landed gentry naturally gathers, all conservative.	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	apparently all political history is contained within people themselves.	[09:43]
smickles	human nature at work	[09:43]
BitHub	so we're making history right now?	[09:49]
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mircea_popescu	well history is made all the time	[09:52]
BitHub	yeh but none of it really matters	[09:55]
BitHub	especially before the internet was born, real pointless stuff	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[09:55]
BitHub	i've liked how things have played out so far but are we about to see a real dark turn in the road?	[09:56]
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mircea_popescu	always the question.	[09:56]
BitHub	hmmm	[09:57]
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OneMiner	The whole issue is wildly overblown. Some extra action will be taken to penalize spammy transactions and the blocksize always had to go up at some point. Not right now though, I think.	[10:03]
maximian	the issue is very polarizing for some reason	[10:04]
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maximian	did mpexbot get ddos'd too?!	[10:05]
OneMiner	It's all the anarchists railing about the injustice (nay TYRANNY) of the concept that the blockchain shouldn't contain an unlimited amount of garbage.	[10:05]
OneMiner	Bah, I need to stop phrasing it that way. I'm not doing any good with this noise.	[10:06]
maximian	unlimited garbage is a problem, and needs to be dealt with	[10:06]
OneMiner	It will be worked out, I'm sure people will be upset for a while. But when the sun rises the next day things will look brighter.	[10:07]
maximian	agreed	[10:07]
maximian	the drama is compelling, hence the topic goes on and on	[10:07]
mircea_popescu	maximian haha nah	[10:07]
mircea_popescu	OneMiner the problem is the definition, of course.	[10:08]
mircea_popescu	selecting what is garbage is an overstretch of the licenses granted.	[10:09]
OneMiner	We feed on it right? Here we are trying to adopt a new currency, pretty much out of the blue. Right away we are overly invested relative to the rest of the world. We are all a bit nutty.	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	or in other words, the president don't have that authority.	[10:09]
hanbot	gmorning	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	http://thebotnet.com/guides-and-tutorials/49828-how-to-access-the-hidden-wiki/	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	that first post is hysterical.	[10:09]
OneMiner	mircea_popescu Except in this case we do have the authority. It's a collective as opposed to unilateral action.	[10:10]
mircea_popescu	"a collective" is scarce basis for authority.	[10:10]
OneMiner	What would be your standard?	[10:10]
OneMiner	We all choose which clients to run right? There's the vote right there.	[10:10]
mircea_popescu	unless you get your subject to agree with you, there's no basis.	[10:10]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[10:10]
OneMiner	Bam, problem solved.	[10:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.5 = 13 BTC [+]	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	if it actually was solvable that way therer wouldn't be all the whining.	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	the problem is tghat there's no problem, and random selection of idiots are trying to manufacture one for poluitical reasons.	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	which is ridiuclous, but hey, americans.	[10:11]
OneMiner	Well... It WILL be solved that way and there STILL will be whining.	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	thats how much they can do.	[10:11]
OneMiner	It's ok though. The alt coins proove that there is no absolute authority. Miners each have a choice of what transactions to include, the world keep turning.	[10:13]
mircea_popescu	indubitably.	[10:13]
mircea_popescu	it's funny tho, because in real world politics people consider the media's focusing on margianl nonissues as signs of some sort of conspiracy.	[10:13]
mircea_popescu	yet in bitcoin there's no media, and yet in bitcoin people focus on marginal nonissues instead of facing the hard stuff. like fixing the damned client.	[10:14]
mircea_popescu	no conspiracy. just... the nature of the human herd.	[10:14]
OneMiner	Cool. I just wanted to pop in with that PSA, the topic is on everybodies mind. :P I've been speaking about this all day. I'm going to bed. :)	[10:14]
mircea_popescu	nn	[10:14]
Namworld	Damn... MPEx needs to come back up. I want to put some orders in =/	[10:15]
OneMiner	I don't hold their views against them. The details do matter. Maybe it's the need for sleep but I can sympathize to a degree.	[10:15]
OneMiner	nn	[10:16]
maximian	I have mpex withdrawal myself	[10:16]
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smickles	$vwap	[10:17]
mpexbot	smickles: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached	[10:17]
smickles	scumbag pastebin	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	eh wtf is with them ppls.	[10:18]
smickles	they have an excellent business model	[10:18]
smickles	1. take you money	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	ya. charge and don't deliver	[10:18]
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Namworld	What's the new time estimates on MPEx availability?	[10:40]
Namworld	Should I just go sleep and come back tomorrow or is it almost done?	[10:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.0342 BTC [+]	[10:41]
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ZedsterX	looks like time for bed	[10:47]
Namworld	yeah	[10:48]
Namworld	Nothing else to do.	[10:48]
Namworld	Goodbye	[10:48]
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mircea_popescu	namworld actually imminent	[11:00]
mircea_popescu	o boy poor guy	[11:00]
BitHub	hehe	[11:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+]	[11:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.089 BTC [-]	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	mpex.coinbr.com	[11:06]
mircea_popescu	maximian ^	[11:06]
maximian	ahhh…. relief	[11:06]
maximian	ty	[11:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.005978 = 0.0179 BTC [-]	[11:07]
maximian	so this is on the new 10Gb connection?	[11:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 450 @ 0.18400178 = 82.8008 BTC [-]	[11:08]
mircea_popescu	ill be around to process withdrawals/deposits for anyone needing.	[11:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00195 BTC [+]	[11:09]
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jcpham	http://jcph.am/2013/03/08/a-letter-to-my-son/	[11:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 815 @ 0.13708413 = 111.7236 BTC [-]	[11:10]
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mircea_popescu	you have a son ?!	[11:10]
jcpham	youngest bitcoin owner ever	[11:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 680 @ 0.11119696 = 75.6139 BTC [-]	[11:10]
mircea_popescu	interesting, puts are covering ?!	[11:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 100 @ 0.06940607 = 6.9406 BTC [-]	[11:12]
mircea_popescu	learn something every day.	[11:12]
jcpham	is 2175 the correct year	[11:13]
jcpham	why can i not verify that	[11:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 650 @ 0.05313042 = 34.5348 BTC [-]	[11:14]
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jcpham	also i'm serious about a screenplay	[11:16]
jcpham	consider that an opening a prologue	[11:16]
Namworld	I think I'll stay until my MPEx deposit is processed.	[11:16]
jcpham	opening scene	[11:16]
jcpham	kid open letter	[11:16]
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mircea_popescu	ok this is backwards world.	[11:17]
mircea_popescu	mpex is closed for a day, when it reopens everyone wants to deposit.	[11:17]
mircea_popescu	i imagined there'd be withdrawals	[11:17]
mircea_popescu	Namworld hey	[11:17]
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mjr__	lol nice	[11:17]
Namworld	Why? Because someone DDoS it?	[11:17]
mircea_popescu	i was just saying, poor guy. you went off like 5 minutes before	[11:17]
maximian	anyone who isn't a nervous nelly knows that it was just a temporary issue	[11:18]
Namworld	Yeah, well sleeping is not my forte.	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	hahaha good 1	[11:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 20 @ 0.05216909 = 1.0434 BTC [-]	[11:19]
jurov	hi Namworld, can i redirect coinbr.com to bitvps, should the need arise?	[11:19]
mircea_popescu	halelujah some calls.	[11:19]
mjr__	mpex is back up?	[11:19]
mircea_popescu	mjr__ yeh	[11:20]
Namworld	I'd prefer if you didn't...	[11:20]
jurov	;)	[11:20]
mircea_popescu	lol	[11:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 195 @ 0.06938646 = 13.5304 BTC [-]	[11:20]
BitHub	mpex trading via social media when its down?	[11:20]
mircea_popescu	BitHub but it's not down.	[11:21]
jurov	yes, facebook app coming shortly	[11:21]
BitHub	hehe	[11:21]
jurov	but twatter wouldn't be bad... if they had sane interface	[11:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C270T] 214 @ 0.37437884 = 80.1171 BTC [+]	[11:22]
mircea_popescu	now those must have been some juicy calls.	[11:22]
BitHub	yeah that's what im thinking, twitter could come in handy for situations like that	[11:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7076 @ 0.00072764 = 5.1488 BTC [-]	[11:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00069034 = 31.4105 BTC [-]	[11:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42424 @ 0.00067334 = 28.5658 BTC [-]	[11:23]
maximian	mircea_popescu: so what about http://mpex.co ?	[11:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 78 @ 0.00413 = 0.3221 BTC [-]	[11:24]
Namworld	still being DDoS'ed I presume	[11:24]
mircea_popescu	maximian there's a lot of hardware being set up. i wanted to get people a lifeline as soon as possible	[11:24]
maximian	ok	[11:24]
maximian	not critical anyway	[11:24]
mircea_popescu	access may be spotty over the next coupla days as everything's being assembled, but hey.	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	better than stone cold, i would think.	[11:25]
maximian	as long as trades can be executed, it's all good	[11:25]
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mircea_popescu	jcpham if your son's called jackson are you jack ?	[11:25]
jcpham	definitely	[11:26]
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jcpham	he has the same initals as me so he can assume my identity one day	[11:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 445 @ 0.08865601 = 39.4519 BTC [-]	[11:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00588401 BTC [+]	[11:27]
jcpham	people can live forever on the internet you know	[11:27]
jcpham	or at least an identity can	[11:27]
Bowjob	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozWGvWpEamU	[11:27]
mircea_popescu	aha	[11:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 750 @ 0.20943788 = 157.0784 BTC [-]	[11:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C290T] 389 @ 0.3278143 = 127.5198 BTC [+]	[11:34]
Namworld	hmm	[11:34]
Namworld	Who sold those P490T?	[11:34]
jurov	you did	[11:34]
Namworld	Nope.	[11:35]
Namworld	But if someone still wants to sell a few, I'd take some.	[11:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [-]	[11:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 176 @ 0.00899 = 1.5822 BTC [+]	[11:35]
mircea_popescu	it seems to me most sales are either deep calls takingprofits	[11:36]
mircea_popescu	or short plays like puts trying to cut losses	[11:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 150 @ 0.009 = 1.35 BTC [+]	[11:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.01 = 0.43 BTC [+]	[11:36]
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Namworld	maybe	[11:36]
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mircea_popescu	"The properties and procedures of bitcoin can solve real world problems like voting and tokenization, but for now, we use it as money."	[11:38]
mircea_popescu	"and we bitch like a virgin in hell if anyone explores alternate uses"	[11:38]
Schadenfreude	What's going on with coinbr?	[11:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]	[11:39]
mircea_popescu	Schadenfreude what is ?	[11:41]
Schadenfreude	Ah, figures, they removed https during maintenance	[11:43]
mircea_popescu	he's moved hosts iirc	[11:43]
Bowjob	http://life.nationalpost.com/2013/03/06/ultra-exclusive-4-7-million-lamborghini-veneno-to-challenge-ferrari-and-mclaren/	[11:50]
Bowjob	I'll pay maybe 50 bitcoins for that	[11:50]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[11:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 225 @ 0.20947704 = 47.1323 BTC [+]	[12:01]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 85 @ 0.23623458 = 20.0799 BTC [-]	[12:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200000 @ 0.00075 = 150 BTC [+]	[12:10]
Bowjob	http://www.pinballcoin.com/#	[12:12]
Bowjob	this looks fun	[12:12]
Bowjob	lol	[12:12]
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error4733	haha 11 fail on pinballcoin	[12:23]
Bowjob	what happened on 11	[12:23]
Bowjob	i didnt see it	[12:23]
Bowjob	lol	[12:23]
Bowjob	still pending	[12:23]
Bowjob	mhm	[12:23]
error4733	12 same	[12:23]
Bowjob	do you see it if i spam the free button?	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	Up to 17.5 million RBS banking group customers were left without their money last night as the bank’s systems crashed.	[12:24]
error4733	and me ?	[12:24]
Bowjob	Mhm, is the free button provably fair	[12:24]
Bowjob	i seem to lose a lot	[12:24]
Bowjob	lol	[12:24]
Bowjob	shouldnt i win a lot on the free button	[12:25]
Namworld	the center stuff have way more paths leading to them than others... assuming each spot has the actual odds the same as if the coin had 50% falling either side of each nail.	[12:25]
Bowjob	i hit a 5	[12:27]
error4733	cool, add then with all your imaginary coin	[12:28]
Bowjob	mhm, i hit the free button 104 times, i made my browser slow to a crawl	[12:28]
jurov	finally managed to sneak into my bitvps vps..	[12:28]
jurov	just did mount / -f -o remount,ro ; dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/root	[12:28]
jurov	>:D	[12:28]
jurov	leave burned ground to them	[12:29]
error4733	haaa fail, i just try but with instawallet	[12:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]	[12:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00075 = 13.5 BTC [+]	[12:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [-]	[12:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00801 BTC [-]	[12:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]	[12:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 77 @ 0.00725 = 0.5583 BTC [-]	[12:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.65 = 3.9 BTC [-]	[12:56]
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Chaang-Noi	asicminer? :)	[13:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 335 @ 0.65 = 217.75 BTC [-]	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	starting to move a little.	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	!ticker btctc asicminer-pt	[13:14]
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assbot	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.65 / 0.65 (383 shares, 249 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.65004 / 0.655 (625 shares, 406.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.65004 / 0.655 (625 shares, 406.3 BTC)	[13:14]
Chaang-Noi	price or volume?	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	volume is what i meant	[13:15]
Chaang-Noi	otc there was a lot of movement	[13:15]
mircea_popescu	ah	[13:15]
Chaang-Noi	more than 10,000 shares sold in the last 2 to 3 weeks	[13:15]
mircea_popescu	price seems glued to 65 tho	[13:15]
Chaang-Noi	that was my fault, im fixing that right now	[13:16]
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Chaang-Noi	only 40 shares left at .65 and then im no longer under contract to sell at that price	[13:16]
Chaang-Noi	after bfl fails to ship and asicminer gets 50% of the network i think 1.5 btc might trade	[13:17]
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Chaang-Noi	you still getting ddossed?	[13:19]
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TradeFortress	well it looks likes it	[13:23]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	use mpex.coinbr.com for now.	[13:24]
TradeFortress	mircea_popescu, are they just targeting mpex.co and not mpex.coinbr.com?	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	nah	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	i used tghe ddos to make a lot of upgrades, not everything's ready to come up online	[13:26]
mircea_popescu	but i wanted to open up trade for people, so	[13:26]
mircea_popescu	sorta midway solution for now.	[13:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 675 @ 0.15947462 = 107.6454 BTC [-]	[13:30]
mircea_popescu	Ukto i notice you're conspicuously absent https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1599582#msg1599582	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	and wtf is going on in these people's heads, they're simultaneously arguing which exchanges should list and delist s.dice	[13:35]
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mircea_popescu	what is this, the dictature of the proletariat or someshit ?! who even asked them.	[13:35]
Namworld	Why is the return amount needed on losses?	[13:37]
Namworld	the 1 satoshi or so outputs by S.DICE?	[13:37]
BitHub	bitcoin isn't a dictatorship?	[13:37]
Namworld	Can't Erik remove those? I don't see much point anyway. You can check your lucky number regardless... If you don't win, don't confirm by sending 1 satoshi?	[13:38]
Ukto	heh	[13:40]
Ukto	mircea_popescu: they are just going overkill	[13:40]
Ukto	it wont happen	[13:40]
Ukto	I was talking to Erik the other day	[13:40]
Ukto	yesterday? day before	[13:41]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4600001 = 2.3 BTC [-]	[13:41]
Ukto	not worth posting	[13:41]
Namworld	No, but is the 1 satoshi return on loss needed?	[13:41]
Namworld	Seems that part could be killed at least	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	Namworld i guess maybe that is in fact superfluous	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea why they do it this way.	[13:43]
Ukto	mircea_popescu: is erik even under any kind of permentant "cant just up and move" contract with mpex anyways?	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[13:43]
Ukto	how to enforce?	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	some people stick to their contracts ?	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	what enforce.	[13:44]
Ukto	i mean, seems a bit draconian ?	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	why ?	[13:44]
Ukto	"you can never leave"	[13:44]
Ukto	i dunno	[13:44]
TradeFortress	mircea_popescu, yet BF does the 2nf most volume	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	Ukto if you think about it the only practical effect it has is it prevents accounting becoming a mess a la asicminer.	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	or whatever other post-glbse assets	[13:45]
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Ukto	it worked fine there	[13:45]
Namworld	SD offers a lookup tool to check your lucky numbers anyway. If you lose, you can see it from the tool.	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	i didn't get that impression.	[13:45]
Ukto	Namworld ?	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	even with the relatively few shareholders.	[13:45]
Namworld	A lookup search box should be palced prominently on SD	[13:46]
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Ukto	Namworld: join the conversation for a sec pls :P	[13:46]
Namworld	If you don't win, don't reply with a 1 satoshi transaction	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	Namworld i dunno, did erik even say at any point why they're sending it that way ?	[13:46]
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Namworld	no... I guess so people know the bet has been processed?	[13:47]
Namworld	and that they lost?	[13:47]
TradeFortress	Namworld, people want to know if they won or not	[13:47]
Namworld	You can check that without a transaction... that's the point	[13:47]
Namworld	The 1 satoshi "You lose" transaction is kind of pointless.	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	well it does give closure on the spot	[13:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 40 @ 0.65 = 26 BTC [-]	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	maybe that's what it was.	[13:48]
Chaang-Noi	ahh i was going to buy them shares	[13:48]
TradeFortress	It worked pretty well in the early ages	[13:48]
TradeFortress	Maybe it's due for a change now.	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	ya, possibly something that's no longer needed	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	has erik commented on the thing at all ?	[13:48]
Namworld	Not sure...	[13:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 105 @ 0.05283354 = 5.5475 BTC [-]	[13:48]
Namworld	I don't want to read 1 billion forum posts and stupidities just to find if Erik ever considered/commented	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	heh yeah.	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	im not sure what their point is anyway. "unspendable" ?!	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	well holly molly, if 1 satoshi is unspendable then what are we doing here	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	basically bitcoin will die a thermic death	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	of satoshi	[13:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	how come colored coins are spendable but satoshi aren't ? isn't this exactly the same thing ?	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	perhaps im missing something.	[13:51]
TradeFortress	it bloats the unspent inputs	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	ok	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	but there must be a mechanism to reclaim those	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	otherwise we slowly leak btc	[13:52]
Namworld	apparently not... 1 satoshi takes more fees to transact than the satoshi itself.	[13:54]
Namworld	and people tend to exclude 1 satoshi transactions	[13:54]
mircea_popescu	interesting	[13:54]
Namworld	I guess that's mostly that. Not that it's actually impossible to try to send it without any fee.	[13:54]
Bowjob	http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19utdu/hey_rstarcraft_its_my_7th_cake_day_and_youre_my/	[13:55]
Bowjob	Free 1 dollar to everyone	[13:55]
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Bowjob	just commen	[13:55]
Bowjob	lol	[13:55]
mircea_popescu	Namworld if they get to be old enough don't they become free ?	[13:55]
Chaang-Noi	have some dust in wallet, send to dice for lulz to get rid of it, win under12000 lol	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	you can't really spend specified inputs can you	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	or are you using the pythin toolbox	[13:56]
TradeFortress	mircea_popescu, any output smaller than 0.01 requires fee	[13:57]
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TradeFortress	so you can't send 1 satoshi. must send a million 1 satoshi inputs and the size of TX will make fees kill	[13:58]
mircea_popescu	TradeFortress days destroyed ruyles don't appply ?	[13:58]
TradeFortress	nope.	[13:58]
mircea_popescu	aha	[13:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.005977 BTC [-]	[13:58]
Namworld	I see	[13:58]
mircea_popescu	i wonder why ?	[13:58]
mircea_popescu	more of the same magic number business i guess	[13:58]
TradeFortress	It's to apply a penalty to people who try to bloat the blockchain	[13:59]
Namworld	I believe in making hardblocks	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	i don't care so much what people intend to do TradeFortress	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	the point is that serious coders don't use magic numbers.	[13:59]
Namworld	and prunning the blockchain	[14:00]
TradeFortress	then be a miner and choose which TXes to accept :)	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	heh	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	but its more of a codingissue	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	how did they come up with 0,01 ?	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	why not e / 100	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	why not fifty bitcoins	[14:01]
TradeFortress	because a small group of coders decided on it. a customizable fee system would be better	[14:01]
TradeFortress	set your own fee policy.	[14:01]
mircea_popescu	stupid way to code, this.	[14:01]
mircea_popescu	and for that matter, if you're trying to apply a penalty to people who tryt to bloat the blockchain	[14:02]
TradeFortress	it could (not saying it is) be based on the cost it takes to process/store the TX	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	you want to impose a fee on txs that have small OUTPOUTS	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	not small inputs.	[14:02]
TradeFortress	mircea_popescu, it is small outputs!	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	if it is small outputs	[14:03]
TradeFortress	mircea_popescu, any output smaller than 0.01 requires fee	[14:03]
mircea_popescu	then i can use 10 satoshi inputs just fine	[14:03]
TradeFortress	sure, but you need tons of them, and kb fee.	[14:03]
TradeFortress	either way the fee system isn't optimal	[14:03]
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mircea_popescu	okay, im off. later all	[14:10]
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Namworld	later	[14:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4600001 = 2.3 BTC [-]	[14:24]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ \|\| CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/	[21:54]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Mar 7 18:31:41 2013	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	hey all!	[21:54]
Namworld	Hello	[21:55]
Namworld	not much trading going on right now	[21:55]
deadweasel	howdy	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	i guess not huh	[21:56]
jcpham	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19wq78/my_horrible_bitinstantzipzapmoneygram7eleven/	[22:00]
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smickles	i guess pizza is what we should stick too	[22:07]
smickles	er, to	[22:07]
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kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149892.0	[22:14]
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mircea_popescu	im preparing a little bomb over here.	[22:17]
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mircea_popescu	blockchain.info down too huh	[22:18]
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pizzaman1337	oh noes, http://mpex.coinbr.com/ just died	[22:20]
topace	zomg bitcoin is exploding!	[22:20]
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Namworld	topace: what?	[22:21]
topace	mpex down, blockchain.info down, block softlimit filesize reached...	[22:22]
topace	BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	o srsly ?!	[22:23]
kakobrekla	ass related http://heahea.org/img/743-Toilet_tissue_promotion.jpg	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	it's fine dood	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	pizzaman1337 what are you talkin' about you troll you	[22:23]
pizzaman1337	mircea_popescu: it's back now	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	you prolly had a dns flicker	[22:24]
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deadweasel	you're not kiddin. blockchain is undermaintenance	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	i wasn;t,no	[22:24]
kakobrekla	its all misterbiggs fault!	[22:24]
topace	what should mpex.co resolve to ?	[22:24]
deadweasel	that mofo	[22:24]
deadweasel	it should resolve to be a profitable venture	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	topace mpex.co nothing yet. mpex.coinbr.com is what you want	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	also, let me introduce everyone to mpexbot	[22:25]
topace	yea thats fine here	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	$help	[22:25]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: (help [ ] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	$whois	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	bah i mean	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	$vwap	[22:25]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/QhtV1Hu5	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	$mdepth	[22:25]
jurov	coinbr.com fully functional nao	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	lol pastebin is slow	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	anyway : in case our proxies get taken down, you can use mpexbot to check the json for vwap prices and market depth.	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	you can also issue orders through it, via $post blabla, where blabla is the url of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	this functionality is disabled currently for administrative reasons, but can be flipped on at will	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	this ensures us against trade being taken down via ddos, unless someone manages to ddoss frenode.	[22:27]
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mircea_popescu	there will be a 2nd bot coming online this weekend, doing roughly the same thing, just for redundancy.	[22:27]
jurov	and trades by email are supported automatically?	[22:27]
jurov	or you do the manually?	[22:27]
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mircea_popescu	trades by email was an absolute lowest level of desperation.	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	we haven't reached it.	[22:28]
jurov	ah okay	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	it's just there as a possibility so people understand that no matter what happens, mpex will trade.	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	but atm no need for such inconvenience.	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	any questions ?	[22:29]
pizzaman1337	noob question: I've been watching some options books' and I've noticed some have buy/sell orders of 1000, with constantly changing prices. Is someone running a script with those orders, or are they mpex provided or something?	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	pizzaman1337 the 1k blocks are mpoebot quoting	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	;;rated smickles	[22:30]
gribble	You rated user smickles on Sat Aug 25 08:39:34 2012, giving him a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: He's been running MPOE.ETF and releasing THE monthly reports, a model for all Bitcoin financial reporting. Also handled k's of BTC as broker for various clients..	[22:30]
pizzaman1337	mircea_popescu: is that just to provide liquidity or something?	[22:31]
Anduck	mircea_popescu: you totally should change the whole MPEX to be used via IRC	[22:31]
Anduck	-totally-	[22:31]
Anduck	just hide the ip of the bot	[22:32]
Anduck	and youre safe from ddos	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	Anduck ;;ident mpexbot	[22:32]
Anduck	;;ident mpexbot	[22:32]
gribble	Nick 'mpexbot', with hostmask 'mpexbot!~supybot@unaffiliated/smickles/bot/mpexbot', is not identified.	[22:32]
Anduck	indeed	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	pizzaman1337 well, it's part of mpex business.	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	Anduck when i say mpex is the superior design this is what i mean.	[22:33]
pizzaman1337	ok, I see	[22:33]
Anduck	mircea_popescu: it's far away from superior, sorry.	[22:33]
Anduck	but hey	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	indeed. far away in the upwards.	[22:33]
Anduck	mircea_popescu: wanna know how to really make it superior?	[22:33]
Anduck	i'll tell you. really.	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[22:33]
Anduck	the question will be do you have the possibilities to make it happenj	[22:33]
Anduck	which i guess, no.	[22:33]
Anduck	but if someone did, it would be superior.	[22:34]
Anduck	it's totally doable	[22:34]
Anduck	just that nobody has done it, yet.	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	so do it.	[22:34]
jurov	orders by phone	[22:34]
jurov	lol	[22:34]
Anduck	colored coins.	[22:34]
deadweasel	easy, sms via ec2 amazon services sms abilities	[22:34]
deadweasel	i'm from the south, we don't like colored coins 'round here	[22:35]
Anduck	make a system based on colored coin basis	[22:35]
Anduck	it would be totally awesome	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	Anduck after all the shit about s.dice	[22:35]
Anduck	and if you can, hire a group to make it happen.	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins ?	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	i'd double the blockchain.	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	this is discussed on trilema, read that article when i get it back online.	[22:35]
Anduck	but... i saw porn on there :(	[22:36]
Anduck	well tbh i dont think colored coins would make it worse	[22:36]
mircea_popescu	who are you to think ?	[22:36]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg773413#msg773413	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	oops	[22:37]
Anduck	ok..?	[22:37]
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mircea_popescu	wrong paste.	[22:38]
Anduck	yeh i see	[22:40]
smickles	< mircea_popescu> you can also issue orders through it, via $post blabla, where blabla is the url of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order	[22:42]
smickles	$help post	[22:43]
mpexbot	smickles: (post ) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.	[22:43]
smickles	$post bi232	[22:43]
mpexbot	smickles: Temporarily disabled by reques of the romanian	[22:43]
jurov	smickles, this i asked about	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	jurov this isn;tt email tho is it ?!	[22:44]
jurov	no i asked smickles earlier why mpexbot doesn't do whole urls	[22:44]
mircea_popescu	o o	[22:44]
smickles	basically, because mircea_popescu didn't ask for that	[22:44]
mircea_popescu	jurov because a. its much easier to parse and b. because the bot can't be touching random servers	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	as its ip is secret	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	it's not that i didn't ask for it, it's that i asked for non-it.	[22:45]
jurov	ok, we'll see if ppl start running into pastebin limit	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	pro acct is 25 a year	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	le bomb : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1601463#msg1601463	[22:47]
jcpham	http://vimeo.com/61144193#	[22:53]
jcpham	something to get involved in finally	[22:53]
kakobrekla	eh?	[22:55]
kakobrekla	i dont think newbs should be doing this	[22:55]
smickles	hmm, 25 pastes per day for an unidentified user, doable	[22:55]
kakobrekla	id rather make a proxy parser	[22:56]
kakobrekla	than pay anything	[22:56]
kakobrekla	there must be some paste something that is not rate limited	[22:56]
jurov	yes, it's reddit	[22:57]
kakobrekla	good	[22:57]
kakobrekla	lets paste the mpex output to reddit	[22:57]
kakobrekla	let em get ddosed	[22:57]
smickles	heh	[22:57]
smickles	how about 4chan	[22:58]
deadweasel	couldn't you start an IRC channel that was invite only, pw protected, and people could trade with your bot in there?	[22:59]
deadweasel	that way you keep the rif raf from being able to poke around	[22:59]
deadweasel	i don't know much about IRC, but I'm sure your own system of IRC networks and servers could manage any load	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	lets paste the mpex output to reddit <<< thart was considered, and is still on the list :D	[23:00]
deadweasel	course EC2 doesn't allow IRC servers, not the free ones anyhow	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel the idea isn't to keep the "rifraf"	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	this is a very heavy political issue and i won't solve it that way.	[23:00]
kakobrekla	or just push to github	[23:01]
kakobrekla	i hate github	[23:01]
smickles	https://gist.github.com/	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	well... i don't and i think the attack i've seen could actually blow them offline	[23:01]
deadweasel	i can see you with half you face painted blue right now, mircea_popescu	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	lol y blue ?	[23:01]
deadweasel	"but they will never take our, MPEX!!!!!!"	[23:01]
deadweasel	braveheart	[23:01]
smickles	lol	[23:02]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/8/4080160/hackers-steal-over-12000-of-bitcoins-from-bitinstant	[23:03]
ThickAsThieves	also wired	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	haha	[23:04]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/03/digital-thieves-pull-off-12000-bitcoin-heist/?cid=co6246174	[23:04]
deadweasel	holy shitsnacks	[23:07]
deadweasel	social engineering is great	[23:08]
deadweasel	teaches people to 'trust, but verify'	[23:08]
smickles	lol, "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my harddrive?"	[23:10]
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jcpham	PC Load Letter _ wtf does that mean!?!	[23:15]
smickles	$markov	[23:21]
mpexbot	pizza is what i mean.	[23:21]
smickles	lol	[23:21]
mircea_popescu	capitalize first letter tho	[23:22]
Diablo-D3	wtf	[23:22]
mircea_popescu	also smickles you ever saw seek and destroy, the film ?	[23:22]
Diablo-D3	bitinstant got raped?	[23:22]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 last week	[23:22]
Diablo-D3	heh, didnt hear about that	[23:22]
mircea_popescu	you don't read trilema enouygh, i tore them a new asshole.	[23:23]
Diablo-D3	why did they let that happen	[23:23]
Diablo-D3	its not hard to secure a machine	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	total stupidity.	[23:23]
smickles	mircea_popescu: i haven't seen that	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	saw a new unknown email in their dns account	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	deleted it and went to bed	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	in the morn herpderp logged into their site as admin	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	had credentials stolen	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	made post about how "security focus"	[23:23]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: yeah, they should have immediately took the site offline	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	im like omgwtfbbq. wut wut wut ?!	[23:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5105 = 1.021 BTC [+]	[23:24]
davout	bitinstant got hacked	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 at the fucking least change dns pws, argue with their dns provider, and leave someone to watch that accoutn	[23:24]
davout	?	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	davout yes.	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	1 second ima pastebin	[23:24]
*	davout is heading to trilema	[23:24]
Diablo-D3	why did they even have a password for their dns shit?	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	not properly.	[23:24]
Diablo-D3	they should have been using secure certs	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	site5 bs	[23:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3449 BTC [-]	[23:24]
smickles	anyone know how I can get supybot to send the return of my markov command instead of the 'invalid command' error mesage?	[23:25]
smickles	if not, i'm going code diving	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	davout http://pastebin.com/mHYq6g2u	[23:26]
davout	mircea_popescu: your blog fails to load	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	which is why i sent you a paste	[23:27]
davout	which is why I want a refund for your stupid trilema credits	[23:27]
davout	reading	[23:27]
davout	popcorn	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	nuh-uh	[23:28]
smickles	ButtPlox	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	i tell you sir strictly no refunds	[23:28]
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mircea_popescu	why you come here bother me i call the police i tell you	[23:28]
smickles	davout: i was able to sell some of mine at a profit	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha noway	[23:28]
smickles	put it on the order book	[23:28]
davout	smickles: wow	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	dude im starting to think smickles is that kid	[23:28]
davout	smickles: which order book	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	you know, the kid that you take to the park in the stroller, comes back with 3 strollers and a motorbike	[23:29]
smickles	;;book "trilema credits"	[23:29]
gribble	Error: No orders for this currency present in database.	[23:29]
smickles	aw, mircea_popescu, you flatter me :)	[23:29]
mircea_popescu	they should elect you president over there	[23:30]
davout	smickles: haha i guess i'm not really used to the over-the-counter exchange	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	davout you know it does more trade than mtgox ?	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	those are the people you need to sell yourself to.	[23:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.62 = 16.2 BTC [+]	[23:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.62 = 3.24 BTC [+]	[23:31]
smickles	an easy way to do it is to go to home depot with 5 usd, buy stuff to make a water pipe, construct it and sell it to a pothead for 70 usd	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:31]
davout	mircea_popescu: lol fuck you	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	im not even kidding	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	(if anyone doens't know, davout is the frenchie that sold bitcoin to the banking system. bitcoin-central.net)	[23:31]
smickles	you still use that pic of some guitar guy as you forum avitar?	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	some gypo yeah	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	then he wonders why he's not got da volume.	[23:32]
davout	lol	[23:33]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[23:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 1.63 = 13.04 BTC [+]	[23:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250T] 87 @ 0.41809214 = 36.374 BTC [+]	[23:35]
smickles	21:35 do you have an inknling of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	smickles that film... you should totally watch it.	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	some kickass quotes in it	[23:36]
smickles	21:35 do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins would make it superior?	[23:37]
smickles	this is going to get wacky	[23:37]
mircea_popescu	lmao wtf	[23:37]
smickles	$markov	[23:38]
mpexbot	but... i saw porn on there :(	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	$markov	[23:38]
smickles	oh, i should open it up to the public	[23:38]
smickles	one sec	[23:38]
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smickles	try it now :)	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	$markov	[23:39]
mpexbot	i don't know much about IRC, but I'm sure your own system of IRC networks and servers could manage any load	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	$markov	[23:39]
mpexbot	21:35 do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins 'round here	[23:39]
smickles	woah	[23:40]
mircea_popescu	should nuke strings that contain his name in <>	[23:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000676 = 1.352 BTC [-]	[23:40]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1601667#msg1601667	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	status update.	[23:44]
smickles	the forum is unreachable for me	[23:47]
pizzaman1337	me too	[23:47]
smickles	$markov	[23:47]
mpexbot	who are you talkin' about you troll you	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	eh no fucking way	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	brb paste.	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	http://pastebin.com/DVMiCcff	[23:48]
pizzaman1337	just loaded for me	[23:48]
smickles	oh wait. it just had 60 second load times	[23:48]
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mircea_popescu	derp	[23:50]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.005884 BTC [-]	[23:51]
smickles	mpexbot: markov is	[23:52]
mpexbot	is heading to trilema	[23:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.679 BTC [-]	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	smickles "Respondes " is not english btw	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	you want responds	[23:54]
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deadweasel	your bot's outta control mp!	[23:58]
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mircea_popescu	what'd iot do ?	[23:59]

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