Forum logs for 07 Oct 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
knotwork | mircea_popescu maybe MPEX should officially have a location in a specific city of Romanian nation on a specific planet within the Galactic Milieu, where the govt of that Freeciv nation can even document specific law that applies to such markets operating on their territory of that planet | [00:00] |
knotwork | the Romanian nation has not been claimed yet by any players | [00:00] |
knotwork | (Take a look at Digitalis OT server's asset contracts, their jurisdiction is the city MI5ius on the planet known as M5) | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | ugh that was confusing. | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | but im in timisoara | [00:05] |
knotwork | is that a world, nation, province, city, novel, or what? | [00:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00037433 = 5.9893 BTC [-] | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | .g timisoara | [00:06] |
markac | mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timi%C8%99oara | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | its a city! | [00:06] |
knotwork | if it is a major city, probably most planets on which the Romanian nation builds many cities will have one by that name | [00:07] |
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mircea_popescu | like 4th largest i think | [00:07] |
knotwork | just like most Canadian planets have an Ottawa and a Toronto and so on and Brit planets usually have a London and a Liverpool etc | [00:07] |
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knotwork | in this case its the software developers, they package existing/historic city names as default names so players dont need to exert imagination to invent names for cities | [00:15] |
knotwork | MI-5ius being an exception, as the main city where the Martian Intelligence service's section 5 is based | [00:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24269 @ 0.00037521 = 9.106 BTC [+] | [00:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17917 @ 0.00037546 = 6.7271 BTC [+] | [00:31] |
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Bugpowder | Nice find : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=116835.msg1251220#msg1251220 | [00:45] |
mircea_popescu | haha i been pasting the orig link i nhere today | [00:47] |
Bugpowder | Go Obama | [00:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18978 @ 0.00037546 = 7.1255 BTC [+] | [00:56] |
Ukto | mircea_popescu: man, all these people with crazy ass govt concpiracy theories | [00:57] |
Ukto | "omg.. black helicopteres coming for my bitcoins!" | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | it is a little exaggerate isnt it. | [00:58] |
mircea_popescu | i think it might be related to SR. | [00:58] |
Bugpowder | OMG black helicopters are coming for my investors bitcoins. I better steal them | [00:58] |
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mircea_popescu | myeah. | [00:59] |
mircea_popescu | i'll bet you ancient spanish golden dubloons vs delicious cream filled doughnuts that in about a year's time mccarthy shows up all lambert-like | [00:59] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6677 @ 0.00037447 = 2.5003 BTC [-] | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | omg quitters. | [01:23] |
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kakobrekla | ops. | [01:38] |
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grubles | !ticker s.dice | [01:46] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00321255 / 0.00339995 (53350 shares, 171.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00337158 / 0.0034 (1606703 shares, 5,417.13 BTC) | [01:46] |
grubles | !ticker s.bvps | [01:46] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.0027501 / 0.00332457 / 0.00350001 (3510 shares, 11.67 BTC), 30day: 0.001175 / 0.00340428 / 0.00359486 (74170 shares, 252.50 BTC) | [01:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00037447 = 1.5353 BTC [-] | [01:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 14 @ 0.03 = 0.42 BTC [+] | [01:47] |
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Ukto | at the park today... https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvcet8u79h8yu6w/2012-10-06%2015.13.16.jpg <-- some landscaper played WAAAY too much minecraft. | [01:54] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22322 @ 0.00037528 = 8.377 BTC [+] | [02:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38880 @ 0.00037575 = 14.6092 BTC [+] | [02:12] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 650 @ 0.15735201 = 102.2788 BTC [-] | [02:20] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35623 @ 0.00037447 = 13.3397 BTC [-] | [02:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7217 @ 0.00037433 = 2.7015 BTC [-] | [02:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7160 @ 0.00037366 = 2.6754 BTC [-] | [02:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 650 @ 0.19800156 = 128.701 BTC [+] | [02:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6540 @ 0.00037366 = 2.4437 BTC [-] | [03:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00037265 = 2.1986 BTC [-] | [03:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31860 @ 0.00037219 = 11.858 BTC [-] | [03:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21286 @ 0.00037219 = 7.9224 BTC [-] | [03:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26554 @ 0.00037198 = 9.8776 BTC [-] | [03:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4560 @ 0.00037172 = 1.695 BTC [-] | [03:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00339995 = 1.87 BTC [+] | [03:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7440 @ 0.00037172 = 2.7656 BTC [-] | [04:06] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [04:14] |
gribble | Best bid: 11.99991, Best ask: 12, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 12, 24 hour volume: 38173, 24 hour low: 12, 24 hour high: 12.8136 | [04:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00037067 = 1.6309 BTC [-] | [04:31] |
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boonies4u | well, I activated my loan... | [04:31] |
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boonies4u | anyone know how long BFL will be accepting trade-ins for ASICs? | [04:33] |
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rdponticelli | boonies4u: answering your question would requiere to assume a whole lot of uncertainties to be true... | [04:37] |
boonies4u | iirc they would be accepting them for trade in for some time after releasing pre orders | [04:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 437913 @ 0.0032725 = 1433.0703 BTC [-] | [04:39] |
rdponticelli | Yeah, but in first place you're assuming that BFL is making ASICS, that they're going to be ready on a relatively short term... | [04:39] |
rdponticelli | That they're going to accept a swap for that supposed new product... | [04:40] |
boonies4u | oh, i'm in no rush to get an ASIC | [04:40] |
rdponticelli | That's a lot of assumptions | [04:40] |
boonies4u | if they aren't making ASICs, I'll be stuck with an FPGA | [04:40] |
boonies4u | i'm not pre-ordering | [04:41] |
rdponticelli | Ok, I'm just saying that until ALL of those assumptions becomes a certainty, your question is impossible to answer | [04:42] |
boonies4u | do you remember hearing that they would be taking in trade-ins for some time? | [04:42] |
rdponticelli | Yeah, I read a lot of people saying a lot of things | [04:43] |
rdponticelli | And yes, they say they would take trade-ins | [04:43] |
boonies4u | hmm | [04:44] |
rdponticelli | But I don't know if those supposed trade-ins would be limited in time | [04:44] |
boonies4u | I'll just wait until I get an email back | [04:44] |
boonies4u | and eat whatever costs come from BTC price drop | [04:44] |
rdponticelli | I'm sure you can hedge your position | [04:45] |
boonies4u | this is my position : https://btcjam.com/listings/38 | [04:45] |
rdponticelli | Oh, you took a loan to buy harware? | [04:48] |
boonies4u | and mining turds | [04:52] |
rdponticelli | lol | [04:52] |
boonies4u | and without the mining turds, I need to bring in mined coins ASAP | [04:52] |
rdponticelli | Well, with glbse down, you're safe from the turds, at least | [04:52] |
boonies4u | I wasn't afraid of the turds | [04:53] |
boonies4u | and neither were my investors apparently | [04:53] |
rdponticelli | Ok | [04:53] |
boonies4u | I am afraid of waiting 3 weeks for an FPGA to get here, as I burn through coins | [04:54] |
rdponticelli | Yeah, is a sensible time to buy hardware, so close of the reward halving.... | [04:54] |
rdponticelli | Lots of uncertainties | [04:55] |
boonies4u | maybe you were right about the mining turds | [04:55] |
boonies4u | might have just been one less thing that could fuck me | [04:55] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 10 @ 0.05188801 = 0.5189 BTC [+] | [04:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 10 @ 0.06815531 = 0.6816 BTC [-] | [04:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+] | [05:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 313 @ 0.78195045 = 244.7505 BTC [+] | [05:00] |
rdponticelli | I don't know, but if asics really come out, the turds are going to plumbet even more | [05:03] |
rdponticelli | If there'll be no asic, they can recover some value, as the market has been pricing in that possibility from a while now... | [05:04] |
rdponticelli | It's all a gamble | [05:04] |
boonies4u | Giga's upgrade is nice though | [05:04] |
rdponticelli | Yeah, if it happens | [05:04] |
rdponticelli | Now without glbse... | [05:05] |
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boonies4u | I think the days of private mining contracts have returned | [05:05] |
rdponticelli | I bought some dirty cheap giga.etf, but again, it's a gamble.... | [05:05] |
boonies4u | anything involving bitcoin is a gamble | [05:06] |
boonies4u | unless you're a business only accepting bitcoin through bitpay | [05:06] |
boonies4u | accepting only fiat | [05:06] |
rdponticelli | Basically | [05:06] |
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boonies4u | *sigh* | [05:08] |
noagendamarket | If i was the feds i wpould just go around stealing bitcoins and scamming to destroy its confidence | [05:08] |
boonies4u | some people say MNW was a plant | [05:08] |
noagendamarket | a pot plant maybe | [05:09] |
boonies4u | anyone realize if you spin MNW around it reads MNW | [05:09] |
rdponticelli | I won't have smoked MNW... :/ | [05:09] |
boonies4u | anyone actually know his middle name? | [05:09] |
smickles | So it looks like the Tucson Chamber of Commerce likes me :D | [05:10] |
mod6 | :) | [05:10] |
mod6 | did you move there yet smickles? | [05:10] |
smickles | mod6: yeah, I'm here, we found a place to live day before yesterday, and just started putting our stuff in there today | [05:10] |
mod6 | thats awesome. i miss the weather! | [05:11] |
mod6 | .. i gotta head down there soon and visit | [05:12] |
smickles | sweet, I wonder how many 'bitcoiners' are within range of me now? | [05:13] |
smickles | (rogue question mark) | [05:13] |
boonies4u | where are ya? | [05:13] |
boonies4u | Arizone? | [05:13] |
smickles | Tucson AZ | [05:13] |
boonies4u | Arizona* | [05:13] |
boonies4u | well there's the drug lords in Mexico | [05:14] |
boonies4u | and the Startups in California | [05:14] |
boonies4u | and the gold bugs in Texas | [05:14] |
smickles | the first food joint we went to happend to be a 40 yr old chineese food place, family owned and delicious | [05:15] |
mod6 | nice :) | [05:15] |
mod6 | you'll have to give eegees a try | [05:15] |
boonies4u | they accept bitcoin? | [05:15] |
boonies4u | ;3 | [05:15] |
smickles | mod6: yeah, they're everywhere! | [05:15] |
noagendamarket | lots of pirates in texas | [05:16] |
smickles | boonies4u: I wasn't prepared to pay in btc, so I didn't ask | [05:16] |
mod6 | f yeah, its my personal fav. | [05:16] |
smickles | but now I should be | [05:16] |
mod6 | <3 t-town | [05:16] |
boonies4u | smickles: would have been embarrassing if they said yes | [05:16] |
boonies4u | and you had none | [05:16] |
boonies4u | XD | [05:16] |
noagendamarket | lol | [05:16] |
noagendamarket | "just ahve to liquidate my illegal shares first " | [05:17] |
smickles | lol | [05:17] |
boonies4u | same here | [05:17] |
boonies4u | I remember it hard to get btc out of GLBSE before | [05:17] |
boonies4u | now it's like that + Jigsaw | [05:17] |
smickles | were there developments in the last 8 hous? | [05:18] |
smickles | *hours | [05:18] |
boonies4u | *looks out window* | [05:19] |
boonies4u | THEY STILL MAD | [05:19] |
smickles | lol | [05:19] |
smickles | as hell? | [05:19] |
smickles | are they going to take it anymore? | [05:19] |
boonies4u | pitchforks_torches.gif | [05:19] |
noagendamarket | wait till monday I guess | [05:20] |
boonies4u | i'd bug Theymos | [05:20] |
boonies4u | smickles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08 | [05:20] |
boonies4u | ? | [05:20] |
Diablo-D3 | heh | [05:22] |
noagendamarket | should just use opensim and run a virtual stock exchaneg inside it | [05:22] |
Diablo-D3 | boonies4u: I was that way for an entire month | [05:22] |
Diablo-D3 | and you know what? | [05:22] |
Diablo-D3 | nefario won in the end | [05:22] |
noagendamarket | getting mad doesnt do anything. | [05:22] |
boonies4u | noagendamarket: getting glad makes you a poser though | [05:22] |
Diablo-D3 | so Im going to go back to my default policy | [05:23] |
Diablo-D3 | I simply dont give a fuck. | [05:23] |
Diablo-D3 | And you know what? Im happy! | [05:23] |
boonies4u | this behavior makes me very apathetic | [05:24] |
Diablo-D3 | No more stress, no more babysitting trolls, no more losing the sleep I already dont get, no more daydreaming about something thats never going to happen, no more fucking bullshit | [05:24] |
boonies4u | complacency is a disease | [05:24] |
smickles | boonies4u: what about sex? | [05:25] |
smickles | or complacent sex? | [05:25] |
boonies4u | what? | [05:25] |
boonies4u | ... | [05:25] |
smickles | dunno, just being odd, i suppose | [05:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00037067 = 3.336 BTC [-] | [05:26] |
boonies4u | *cough* | [05:26] |
boonies4u | ok | [05:26] |
Diablo-D3 | complacency isnt a disease | [05:28] |
Diablo-D3 | long term stress resulting in a heart attach is a disease. | [05:28] |
smickles | complacency probably causes more heart disease than stress | [05:28] |
____Atlas_____ | Life is a disease | [05:28] |
____Atlas_____ | Cured by death | [05:29] |
smickles | [05:29] | |
____Atlas_____ | /emo | [05:29] |
____Atlas_____ | Some idiot just put a bunch of anarchist propaganda in the Bitcoin wikipedia page. | [05:29] |
Diablo-D3 | seriously, what do I get out of continuing to fight this? | [05:30] |
Diablo-D3 | theres no reward. | [05:30] |
boonies4u | pro-anarchist propaganda? | [05:30] |
boonies4u | Diablo-D3: given your behavior, I won't take your seriously | [05:30] |
____Atlas_____ | It was more like "Bitcoin is an anarchist wetdream." | [05:30] |
boonies4u | from now on | [05:30] |
____Atlas_____ | "Stay the fuck away normal people." | [05:30] |
____Atlas_____ | "WOOO ANARCHY" | [05:31] |
boonies4u | ____Atlas_____: you're an anarchist night-tremor | [05:31] |
boonies4u | or is it terror? | [05:31] |
____Atlas_____ | I am just totally apolitical at this point. | [05:31] |
boonies4u | Agorist | [05:31] |
boonies4u | ? | [05:31] |
____Atlas_____ | That would be an apt description. | [05:31] |
Diablo-D3 | boonies4u: take me seriously for what? I spent hundreds of hours trying to move DMC forward | [05:32] |
boonies4u | hundreds? | [05:32] |
Diablo-D3 | yeah. | [05:33] |
boonies4u | like 200 hundred, or closer to 1000? | [05:33] |
Diablo-D3 | bottom end of the scale | [05:33] |
____Atlas_____ | I have never heard somebody describe something in 100s of hours | [05:33] |
boonies4u | oh ok then | [05:34] |
____Atlas_____ | Usually you move on to weeks at that point. | [05:34] |
smickles | ;;ticker | [05:34] |
gribble | Best bid: 12.2, Best ask: 12.3098, Bid-ask spread: 0.10980, Last trade: 12.3098, 24 hour volume: 40408, 24 hour low: 11.95, 24 hour high: 12.8136 | [05:34] |
smickles | ;;bc,24hprc | [05:34] |
gribble | 12.43 | [05:34] |
boonies4u | ____Atlas_____: it means that he didn't put in consistent hours per week | [05:34] |
smickles | 12.2? | [05:34] |
____Atlas_____ | Damn it | [05:34] |
____Atlas_____ | I should of sold this morning | [05:34] |
smickles | with a low under 12?!@! | [05:34] |
____Atlas_____ | Yeah, just standard weekend dip affair | [05:35] |
____Atlas_____ | Nobody buys on weekends | [05:35] |
____Atlas_____ | so sell sell sell | [05:35] |
boonies4u | it dipped below 12? | [05:35] |
smickles | well, combined with a diff increase | [05:35] |
boonies4u | ____Atlas_____: even with GLBSE? | [05:35] |
____Atlas_____ | People could be speculating on that | [05:35] |
smickles | 24 hour low: 11.95, boonies4u | [05:35] |
boonies4u | "could be" | [05:35] |
boonies4u | smickles: yeah I saw... | [05:36] |
smickles | I dunno if glbse affected the exchange rate at all | [05:36] |
smickles | which is a little sad | [05:36] |
boonies4u | that you don't know? | [05:36] |
____Atlas_____ | Reasonably, it should | [05:36] |
smickles | what have we been doing that had so little affect | [05:36] |
____Atlas_____ | Mining bonds and all that jazz | [05:37] |
smickles | ag, that carp | [05:37] |
____Atlas_____ | Apparently BFL was in cohoots with GLBSE | [05:37] |
____Atlas_____ | Planning to make things more, erm, efficient. | [05:37] |
smickles | howso? | [05:37] |
____Atlas_____ | They wanted to give GLBSE issuers the first batch of rigs | [05:37] |
____Atlas_____ | So it was the start of something nice for once | [05:37] |
____Atlas_____ | This is just statements on the forums but it is likely true | [05:38] |
____Atlas_____ | was* | [05:38] |
Diablo-D3 | [10:34:00] <____Atlas_____> Usually you move on to weeks at that point. | [05:38] |
Diablo-D3 | weeks doesnt make sense | [05:38] |
boonies4u | I wish the best of luck to Giga | [05:38] |
Diablo-D3 | what is a week? 40 hours? 60? 80? 20? | [05:39] |
____Atlas_____ | 40 hours | [05:39] |
____Atlas_____ | Unless you're in China | [05:39] |
Diablo-D3 | 40 means you're a slacker. | [05:39] |
boonies4u | Diablo-D3: you probably didn't put 40 in a week | [05:39] |
____Atlas_____ | or a workaholic | [05:39] |
____Atlas_____ | oh lawd | [05:39] |
Diablo-D3 | companies dont startup on only 40 hours a week. | [05:39] |
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boonies4u | what did you do again? | [05:39] |
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Diablo-D3 | boonies4u: in the end? nothing much | [05:40] |
Diablo-D3 | all I did was dance to nefario's tune while he fucked my shareholders | [05:40] |
boonies4u | what were you doing that took 40+ hours a week? | [05:41] |
Diablo-D3 | boonies4u: you do know what DMC was doing, right? | [05:41] |
boonies4u | mining? | [05:41] |
Diablo-D3 | a little bigger than that. | [05:41] |
boonies4u | Diablo Mining Company right? | [05:41] |
Diablo-D3 | a green energy powered data center focusing on high density computing. | [05:41] |
Diablo-D3 | mining was just a small part of it. | [05:41] |
boonies4u | high density computing? | [05:42] |
noagendamarket | DMC had no equipment | [05:42] |
boonies4u | as in, if cooling fails, your computers will overheat quickly? | [05:42] |
boonies4u | I only really paid attention to the turds | [05:43] |
boonies4u | if you weren't selling turds, you probably weren't on my radar | [05:43] |
boonies4u | or didn't have the volume to attract me | [05:43] |
Diablo-D3 | boonies4u: cooling fails? heh, not with redundant cooling | [05:44] |
Diablo-D3 | Im talking about shit mounted in racks. | [05:44] |
Diablo-D3 | or rather, 25-30kw of shit mounted in racks, per rack. | [05:44] |
boonies4u | that's what I imagined | [05:44] |
boonies4u | so what did the shares represent? % ownership? | [05:44] |
Diablo-D3 | yup. | [05:45] |
boonies4u | oh shit | [05:45] |
boonies4u | you anonymous? | [05:45] |
Diablo-D3 | doesnt matter, x% of zero is still zero. | [05:45] |
____Atlas_____ | http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif | [05:46] |
boonies4u | i'm confused, do you have any assets? | [05:46] |
noagendamarket | no | [05:46] |
Diablo-D3 | boonies4u: physical? no | [05:46] |
Diablo-D3 | for the short term, I was reinvesting it into other companies | [05:47] |
boonies4u | oh lawd | [05:47] |
boonies4u | ____Atlas_____: why did you link a 1x1 gif? | [05:47] |
____Atlas_____ | Are you blind? | [05:47] |
____Atlas_____ | lol | [05:47] |
____Atlas_____ | idk | [05:47] |
Diablo-D3 | ____Atlas_____: that isnt the image you thought it was | [05:47] |
____Atlas_____ | nope | [05:47] |
boonies4u | title : qm.gif (1x1) | [05:47] |
Diablo-D3 | boonies4u: a million dollar project does not get done overnight. | [05:48] |
Diablo-D3 | Im not sure why people think it does. | [05:48] |
boonies4u | i was oh lawding at your reinvesting | [05:48] |
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____Atlas_____ | http://i.imgur.com/sSIhV.png | [05:50] |
Diablo-D3 | yup, and thanks to nefario's bullshit, a large part of that money was burned | [05:50] |
Diablo-D3 | and then thanks to MORE of nefario's bullshit, it all burned | [05:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0003711 = 3.711 BTC [+] | [05:51] |
Diablo-D3 | and so did everyone else's | [05:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25460 @ 0.00037111 = 9.4485 BTC [+] | [05:51] |
boonies4u | I can understand why you are apathetic | [05:51] |
boonies4u | I bet your shareholders love it *rolls eyes* | [05:51] |
Diablo-D3 | well, they'll have to fight nefario, not me | [05:52] |
Diablo-D3 | Ive fought enough for the community, its time for them to return the favor | [05:52] |
noagendamarket | glbse is controlled by nefarios lawyer | [05:52] |
boonies4u | who i probably butting heads with Theymos | [05:52] |
noagendamarket | yes | [05:53] |
noagendamarket | theymos doesnt agree with lawyers lol | [05:53] |
boonies4u | I'd bet Theymos is the voice of reason | [05:53] |
noagendamarket | even if we removed nefario as ceo it wouldnt have mattered | [05:55] |
boonies4u | this is about Goat right? | [05:56] |
Diablo-D3 | heh, goat | [05:56] |
Diablo-D3 | at one point I was saying Im glad I sold all of my goat holding | [05:56] |
Diablo-D3 | *holdings | [05:56] |
Diablo-D3 | guess it doesnt matter now | [05:56] |
noagendamarket | its more likely to be about the pirate stuff than anything | [05:58] |
noagendamarket | if glbse had ID requirements inn the first place most likely the pirate stuff wouldnt have gotten so nuts | [05:58] |
boonies4u | inn the first place.. | [05:59] |
boonies4u | *writes that down* | [05:59] |
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noagendamarket | :P | [06:10] |
boonies4u | anyone willing to lend me the difference between my 99 btc and the total cost of two BFL FPGA singles? | [06:13] |
noagendamarket | BFL is a scam :P | [06:14] |
boonies4u | you mean the FPGA's that currently exist are a scam? | [06:14] |
mircea_popescu | noagendamarket ya, but so is bitcoin | [06:14] |
noagendamarket | lol | [06:14] |
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boonies4u | ;;roulette | [06:15] |
gribble | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! | [06:15] |
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boonies4u | crap | [06:15] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;echo ;;roulette | [06:16] |
gribble | ;;roulette | [06:16] |
mircea_popescu | wellll ? | [06:16] |
mircea_popescu | .echo ;;roulette | [06:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 400 @ 0.0035 = 1.4 BTC [+] | [06:16] |
boonies4u | mircea_popescu: trying to get assbot to do ;;roulette? | [06:19] |
boonies4u | lol | [06:19] |
mircea_popescu | ya | [06:20] |
____Atlas_____ | ;;roulette | [06:34] |
gribble | *click* | [06:34] |
____Atlas_____ | ;;roulette | [06:34] |
gribble | *click* | [06:34] |
____Atlas_____ | ;;roulette | [06:34] |
gribble | *click* | [06:34] |
____Atlas_____ | ;;roulette | [06:34] |
gribble | *click* | [06:34] |
____Atlas_____ | ;;roulette | [06:34] |
gribble | *click* | [06:34] |
____Atlas_____ | /fire | [06:34] |
____Atlas_____ | ;;fire | [06:34] |
gribble | Error: "fire" is not a valid command. | [06:34] |
____Atlas_____ | ;;shoot | [06:34] |
gribble | Error: "shoot" is not a valid command. | [06:34] |
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____Atlas_____ | ;;roulette | [06:34] |
gribble | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! | [06:34] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23628 @ 0.00037366 = 8.8288 BTC [+] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00037067 = 19.7567 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51500 @ 0.0003706 = 19.0859 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47700 @ 0.00037005 = 17.6514 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00037 = 2.849 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3583 @ 0.00036906 = 1.3223 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
____Atlas_____ | Blanks can still kill | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42256 @ 0.00036883 = 15.5853 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00036878 = 0.0922 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57496 @ 0.00036869 = 21.1982 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11784 @ 0.00036756 = 4.3313 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00036731 = 5.1056 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00036651 = 11.6917 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00036611 = 15.6329 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58959 @ 0.00036537 = 21.5418 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62800 @ 0.00036149 = 22.7016 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.000351 = 0.8775 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153359 @ 0.00035 = 53.6757 BTC [-] | [06:35] |
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____Atlas_____ | http://blockchain.info/charts/total-bitcoins | [06:37] |
grubles | someones taking a dump on mpoe | [06:37] |
____Atlas_____ | What happened in September? | [06:37] |
mircea_popescu | they hate meee | [06:37] |
grubles | <3 mircea_popescu | [06:37] |
mircea_popescu | :) | [06:37] |
cryptorific | ____Atlas_____: a large increase in hashing capacity | [06:38] |
mircea_popescu | ya, btc time is not fixed to irl time | [06:38] |
cryptorific | the difficulty adjustments weren't enough to compensate for the large and irregular hash power increase as far as i can see | [06:39] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate 1 Kumala vircurex/cryptostocks guy. | [06:42] |
gribble | Error: 'Kumala' is not a valid integer. | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate Kumala 1 vircurex/cryptostocks guy. | [06:42] |
gribble | Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system. | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | ggrrr | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate Kumala 1 vircurex/cryptostocks guy. | [06:43] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Kumala has been recorded. | [06:43] |
mircea_popescu | halelujah. | [06:43] |
____Atlas_____ | So we may end up seeing all the BTC generated earlier than 2030? | [06:46] |
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mircea_popescu | ____Atlas_____ its quite probable. | [06:47] |
____Atlas_____ | Man I'll be old then | [06:49] |
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____Atlas_____ | Old men running the world. A new age! | [06:54] |
____Atlas_____ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxi7JRJrod4 | [06:54] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla add cryptostox stream ? http://twitter.com/Cryptostocks | [06:57] |
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mircea_popescu | but pleaze filter to btc only omg. | [06:57] |
grubles | what the heck is DVC? | [06:59] |
grubles | and DVB? | [06:59] |
mircea_popescu | devscamcoins | [06:59] |
dub | double vaginal coin | [06:59] |
mircea_popescu | and devscambutts | [06:59] |
grubles | ah devcoins | [07:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 480 @ 0.0035 = 1.68 BTC [+] | [07:00] |
grubles | wtf is a devcoin | [07:00] |
mircea_popescu | lol. grubbies, why don you make your own coin ? | [07:00] |
mircea_popescu | grublits. | [07:01] |
____Atlas_____ | grubles: an alt coin out of many | [07:01] |
____Atlas_____ | Soon we will have more currencies than the old American confederacy | [07:01] |
mircea_popescu | they never had as many as we do | [07:02] |
mircea_popescu | solidcoin counts as 10. | [07:02] |
grubles | mircea_popescu, because i believe in buttcoins | [07:02] |
mircea_popescu | aaa, but do buttcoins believe in you ? | [07:02] |
grubles | that is the age old question | [07:03] |
____Atlas_____ | We need a Buttcoin | [07:04] |
cryptorific | lol, just to make fun of the trolls? | [07:05] |
____Atlas_____ | Ha, they would have as much fun | [07:06] |
____Atlas_____ | and they would probably use them for shit | [07:06] |
grubles | have you ever squeezed your buttcheeks so hard you cracked your lower back? | [07:07] |
____Atlas_____ | I think you need more fiber if you experience that | [07:08] |
grubles | fiber has nothing to do with it | [07:08] |
grubles | sitting on my ass has everything to do with it | [07:09] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker s.mpoe | [07:11] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00035 / 0.0003698 / 0.00037575 (2318319 shares, 857.32 BTC), 30day: 0.00034 / 0.00038476 / 0.00042 (65387672 shares, 25,158.64 BTC) | [07:11] |
noagendamarket | you can trade toilet paper for buttcoins | [07:22] |
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grubles | noagendamarket, wtt 10 tp for 20 btc? | [07:25] |
noagendamarket | lol | [07:25] |
noagendamarket | its easy to mail toilet paper | [07:25] |
noagendamarket | double or single ply ? | [07:26] |
grubles | as many as you want holmes | [07:26] |
grubles | i have a direct connect to a supplier in columbia | [07:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25032 @ 0.00030391 = 7.6075 BTC [-] | [07:27] |
mircea_popescu | cocaine leaf tp | [07:27] |
noagendamarket | I wonder if you had lsd on toliet paper if you wiped your butt you would get high lol | [07:27] |
mircea_popescu | for all your hhemorhhidal news | [07:27] |
mircea_popescu | needs* | [07:27] |
noagendamarket | bahaha | [07:27] |
noagendamarket | heroin wipes :P | [07:27] |
cryptorific | noagendamarket: you'd have to rub it hard but yea, the skin is pretty thin there and could easily transfer | [07:28] |
mircea_popescu | whole new dimension to chipping | [07:28] |
cryptorific | i knew some hippie ass chicks that would stick weaker acid tabs in their vaginas to help absorb more | [07:29] |
noagendamarket | heh | [07:29] |
____Atlas_____ | what did i just read | [07:29] |
____Atlas_____ | out of context | [07:29] |
____Atlas_____ | that was interesting | [07:29] |
grubles | cryptorific, that makes more sense than getting high off of wiping your ass | [07:29] |
noagendamarket | LOL | [07:29] |
grubles | but i can definitely bet one would get high off of wiping their ass with blotter paper | [07:30] |
____Atlas_____ | http://i.imgur.com/8xfIV.jpg | [07:31] |
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grubles | shopped | [07:31] |
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____Atlas_____ | nope, that's a real -- replica | [07:32] |
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boonies4u | I have come up with 4 options moving forward when it comes to the loan I received. | [07:48] |
boonies4u | while, i created this for my lenders, if anyone has anything to say regarding them, it would be appreciated | [07:49] |
boonies4u | http://pastebin.com/9ZQnzK8R | [07:49] |
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thestringpuller_ | Each asset is unique no? | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/112hsn/the_reasons_why_bitcoin_securities_cant_be/ | [17:09] |
knotwork | do bonds also require issuer to know current owners? or is that what makes bearer bonds different, not knowing who has them? | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | if anyone has a reddit account be so kind to point out to them that i don't, and so won't answer there, but they can feel free to make the comments on the article | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | and get a response. | [17:09] |
knotwork | each asset is unique yes, change even a bit, or a character of whitespace, and the hash changes thus the ID of the asset the contract is about changes | [17:10] |
knotwork | so any change to contract results in a brand new distinct different asset | [17:10] |
femtotube | Chaang-Noi: that markm's OT is not decentralised. It's even worst that centralized. If server, where sec. was issued disappears, security is gone too | [17:10] |
thestringpuller_ | I was more asking, say I have 1000 shares of Asset A, would each one of those 1000 shares be unique, to keep them from being duplicated? | [17:11] |
Bugpowder | You might be better served by posting in the law subreddit | [17:11] |
knotwork | no, they are fungible | [17:11] |
Bugpowder | where a bunch of actual lawyers or at least law students hang out | [17:11] |
knotwork | deeds are each-unique but not yet implemented | [17:11] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder i ain't posting it tho, cause i have no acct. | [17:11] |
femtotube | mircea_popescu: then get one | [17:11] |
femtotube | how hard is that? | [17:12] |
knotwork | Audit system is not yet implemented so my server does not spam all receipts out to public published form | [17:12] |
mircea_popescu | i hate accounts. | [17:12] |
knotwork | so yes if my server vanishes issuers will not know what ownership changes happened since their last snapshot | [17:12] |
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knotwork | femtotube, do you mean how hard is spamming all receipts out to public media/channel? | [17:14] |
knotwork | the hard part will be making sure only persons intended to be able to can actually decrypt specific receitps they should be able to see | [17:15] |
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knotwork | might be easier actually to record emails for issuers and spam issuer's email with all receipts about their asset | [17:15] |
knotwork | but that would require "Knowing Your Issuers" | [17:16] |
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thestringpuller_ | KYC | [17:16] |
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knotwork | I actually hoped it might be possible to only know a very few customers, those being the few to whom any actual withdraws from the vault go, everyone else being their customers and dealing with them to buy tokens or cash out tokens | [17:18] |
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knotwork | like how egold and liberty reserve and possibly even pecunix do it, third parties to handle all cashing in and out | [17:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14267 @ 0.00025477 = 3.6348 BTC [-] | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | ewgh wtf happened here. | [17:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14633 @ 0.00025477 = 3.728 BTC [-] | [17:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00025844 = 6.9262 BTC [+] | [17:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00026409 = 9.5072 BTC [+] | [17:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65400 @ 0.00027946 = 18.2767 BTC [+] | [17:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5778 @ 0.00031314 = 1.8093 BTC [+] | [17:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4618 @ 0.00032044 = 1.4798 BTC [+] | [17:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 382 @ 0.00035 = 0.1337 BTC [+] | [17:25] |
Bugpowder | WHOOOOO HOOOO | [17:26] |
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Bugpowder | you didn't notice? | [17:27] |
Bugpowder | been buying that shit up all morning | [17:27] |
mircea_popescu | lol wd. | [17:27] |
Bugpowder | 10MM should probably be a nice supporting bid size | [17:28] |
mircea_popescu | i would think. | [17:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550000 @ 0.000315 = 1118.25 BTC [-] | [17:48] |
pigeons | ait | [17:50] |
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pigeons | wait for me | [17:50] |
Ukto | 0,o | [17:50] |
mircea_popescu | hum | [17:51] |
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smickles | ;;ticker | [18:00] |
gribble | Best bid: 11.94501, Best ask: 11.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 11.94501, 24 hour volume: 61886, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.78 | [18:00] |
smickles | ;;bc,24hprc | [18:00] |
gribble | 12.21 | [18:00] |
mircea_popescu | no wonder people were buying puts lol | [18:01] |
mircea_popescu | ColdHardMetal so how goes man ? | [18:02] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.0003422 = 8.2812 BTC [+] | [18:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67300 @ 0.00034111 = 22.9567 BTC [-] | [18:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00033888 = 14.4702 BTC [-] | [18:18] |
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DeaDTerra | evening :) | [18:22] |
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smickles | morning :) | [18:30] |
DeaDTerra | any news? | [18:31] |
smickles | "weekend dip" + diff increase + glbse incidnent = lower exchange rate, it seems | [18:32] |
smickles | and mircea_popescu wrote an article | [18:32] |
smickles | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/ | [18:33] |
DeaDTerra | Yea, I have followed the price ^^ to me it seems like a chance to get some cheap bitcoins :P | [18:34] |
DeaDTerra | No more news on the whole GLBSE stuff? | [18:34] |
smickles | not that I know of | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu | theymos placed the glbse btc at 4-8k | [18:38] |
mircea_popescu | my estimates were 1-2k. something's amiss. | [18:38] |
DeaDTerra | GLBSE btc? | [18:38] |
DeaDTerra | and I thought you were ignoring me ^^ | [18:39] |
mircea_popescu | evoorhees put in a good word. | [18:39] |
DeaDTerra | hahah, I thought so | [18:39] |
DeaDTerra | What do you mean by GLBSE BTC btw? | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu | btc owned in cash by glbse customers on glbse website. | [18:40] |
DeaDTerra | ah | [18:40] |
DeaDTerra | Yea that has to be higher then 1-2k | [18:40] |
DeaDTerra | I personally have 500+ BTC on there | [18:40] |
DeaDTerra | Atleast 5000 BTC I would guess on | [18:41] |
DeaDTerra | probably more | [18:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18013 @ 0.00033888 = 6.1042 BTC [-] | [18:44] |
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Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [18:49] |
gribble | Best bid: 11.90004, Best ask: 11.9699, Bid-ask spread: 0.06986, Last trade: 11.90004, 24 hour volume: 62374, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.78 | [18:49] |
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thestringpuller | !help | [19:01] |
assbot | List of commands: | [19:01] |
assbot | !ticker |
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Bugpowder | !ticker S.MPOE | [19:03] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00025015 / 0.00031653 / 0.00037575 (6558468 shares, 2,076.01 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00037846 / 0.00042 (70093609 shares, 26,528.18 BTC) | [19:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00033179 = 11.8117 BTC [-] | [19:09] |
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Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [19:27] |
gribble | Best bid: 11.93, Best ask: 11.97, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 11.97, 24 hour volume: 62240, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.75999 | [19:27] |
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kakobrekla | oh look, a all-in-one https://www.therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock | [19:33] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20557 @ 0.00033618 = 6.9109 BTC [+] | [19:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13843 @ 0.0003389 = 4.6914 BTC [+] | [19:34] |
boonies4u-Andro | L$? | [19:35] |
boonies4u-Andro | Linden Dollars? | [19:36] |
pigeons | yes | [19:36] |
Bugpowder | Nice dividend https://www.therocktrading.com/en/offers/RMIND | [19:36] |
Bugpowder | #therocktrading | [19:37] |
boonies4u-Andro | no one is there | [19:38] |
boonies4u-Andro | lol | [19:38] |
pigeons | no they don't irc | [19:38] |
boonies4u-Andro | i don't see much documentation on RMIND | [19:39] |
boonies4u-Andro | mission statement | [19:39] |
boonies4u-Andro | idk, looking | [19:39] |
kakobrekla | i dont know who runs it | [19:40] |
kakobrekla | but i know a guy that knows him | [19:40] |
kakobrekla | thats it. | [19:40] |
boonies4u-Andro | LOL | [19:40] |
pigeons | i've known him since before there was a bitcoin | [19:40] |
boonies4u-Andro | :Company Prospectus The Rock Mining Industries Total outstanding Shares 400000 100% Bitcoin Production The First Company traded in Bitcoin only!: | [19:41] |
pigeons | yes before it was traded in lindens as all their other stuff, then it moved to bitcoins after linden temp closed their account because someone used stolen lindens to buy bitcoins from them on their exchange | [19:42] |
boonies4u-Andro | lol | [19:42] |
smickles | !!!, woah what? theymos said, "4-5. The database backups can be decrypted by me, justmoon, Gavin, Sirius, and Satoshi. The encrypted backups are distributed among many people." Satoshi!? | [19:43] |
mircea_popescu | smickles sure ? | [19:43] |
boonies4u-Andro | HOLY shit | [19:43] |
pigeons | yeah that's the bitcointalk forum db | [19:43] |
smickles | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1251861#msg1251861 | [19:43] |
pigeons | not glbse | [19:43] |
boonies4u-Andro | https://www.therocktrading.com/en/exchange/currency | [19:43] |
smickles | oh | [19:43] |
boonies4u-Andro | they have a dollar spread on btc/usd | [19:43] |
boonies4u-Andro | lol | [19:43] |
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pigeons | really? laugh at someone because they have temp low volume resulting in a big spread? like your exchange is better? | [19:44] |
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pigeons | kakobrekla: https://assets-otc.com/ | [19:45] |
kakobrekla | wow dafuq is this | [19:45] |
boonies4u-Andro | I was just pointing out the crazy spread | [19:46] |
boonies4u-Andro | :P | [19:46] |
boonies4u-Andro | of course it is due to low volume | [19:47] |
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smickles | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1251971#msg1251971 | [19:50] |
smickles | lol | [19:50] |
smickles | I honestly thought glbse had the sense to have an accountant | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | https://therocktrading.com ?! | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck is that lol | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | Bitcoin Fixed Return Fund | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | mkay. sigh. | [19:54] |
boonies4u-Andro | MrTiggr: https://therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock | [19:57] |
boonies4u-Andro | mircea_popescu: https://therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock | [19:57] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00033346 = 1.2005 BTC [-] | [19:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00033179 = 1.858 BTC [-] | [19:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4774191 @ 0.000315 = 1503.8702 BTC [-] | [19:58] |
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Bugpowder | oh boy | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | boonies4u-Andro oic. | [19:59] |
boonies4u-Andro | though, i'm not seeing any description as to what these bonds represent XD | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | seems to me like a ponzibond and a miningthing | [20:01] |
boonies4u-Andro | my guess is that they all represent some function of the "The Rock Trading Company" | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | that assets-otc thing is funnay | [20:01] |
boonies4u-Andro | there's one for arbitrage | [20:01] |
smickles | <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4774191 @ 0.000315 = 1503.8702 BTC [-] 0_o | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | i thought ppl didn't like mpex. now copying it ? | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | smickles whoa. was a 2mn ish one before, too | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | or w/e, 1.1k btc | [20:02] |
pigeons | well if you email them they will keep you up to date on the mining equipment and give you whatever info you ask | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, about to take the girls to town! however before i go : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/ | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | feel free to dump into reddit or w/e | [20:02] |
boonies4u-Andro | I don't think they're copying it | [20:03] |
boonies4u-Andro | I think they're shorting it :P | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | boonies4u-Andro assets-otc thing looks like a retarded mpex to me. | [20:03] |
boonies4u-Andro | i'm just poking fun at what smickles posted | [20:03] |
boonies4u-Andro | :P | [20:03] |
pigeons | there is a site you can see the management of the gpus and fpgas and what pools they are at and temps and hashes, but hehehe yes down atm | [20:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1363237 @ 0.000315 = 429.4197 BTC [-] | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | mm | [20:06] |
boonies4u-Andro | gpumax? | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker s.mpoe | [20:06] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00025015 / 0.00031575 / 0.00037575 (12741096 shares, 4,023.10 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.0003733 / 0.00042 (76270870 shares, 28,472.03 BTC) | [20:06] |
boonies4u-Andro | those moving averages? | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | yes | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | so i've rebought today like i dunno, half my float ? | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | wtf lol. | [20:08] |
boonies4u-Andro | I considered opening up a fund on GLBSE instead of getting a loan on btcjam | [20:09] |
boonies4u-Andro | I always liked that in the back of my head, if something bad happens and they lose confidence in the fund, I could buy back bonds | [20:09] |
FabianB | looks like someone needs a lot of money suddenly and sells a lot of MPOE | [20:15] |
FabianB | or is that panic sell? | [20:16] |
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smickles | holy shit, the gov't representatives in romainia are elected by plurality, and they use a civil law based legal system? | [20:17] |
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boonies4u-Andro | lol | [20:25] |
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pigeons | all other countries are run by little girls | [20:26] |
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angela_merkel | pigeons, oh you... *hihihihihihi* | [20:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00032349 = 5.9199 BTC [+] | [20:32] |
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Chaang-Noi | i find it kinda odd coldhardmetal left #glbse but is in the other #bitcoin chans... | [20:34] |
Chaang-Noi | wonder what is going on there... | [20:34] |
smickles | Chaang-Noi: i dunno, but it seems like a good time to leave the parting message idid | [20:37] |
Chaang-Noi | i did not see it | [20:37] |
Chaang-Noi | iv been traveling | [20:37] |
smickles | i did it like 1 mn ago | [20:37] |
smickles | do i fail at operating a /part command? | [20:37] |
Chaang-Noi | in #glbse ? | [20:38] |
smickles | yup | [20:38] |
Chaang-Noi | ahhh | [20:38] |
Chaang-Noi | yup | [20:38] |
Chaang-Noi | so are you going to give your AML docs to Nefario ? | [20:38] |
kakobrekla | and the message was? | [20:38] |
Chaang-Noi | * smickles (~smickles@mostofmany.com) has left #GLBSE ("see you later shitlords") | [20:38] |
kakobrekla | ;> | [20:39] |
smickles | Chaang-Noi: is it going to be docs like that? | [20:39] |
Chaang-Noi | i wonder how many BTC and assets nefario will get to claim due to people not handing over AML stuff, or him just saying its not good enough... | [20:39] |
Chaang-Noi | smickles it seems so | [20:39] |
Chaang-Noi | its his "get out of jail free card if people are using glbse to support terrorist and money laundering" | [20:40] |
Chaang-Noi | thats not a direct quote but something like that | [20:40] |
smickles | Chaang-Noi: we'll see. i suppose i'm waiting to be contacted directly, or see something on glbse proper | [20:41] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah me too | [20:41] |
smickles | and in my case, he has a pic of my passport | [20:41] |
Chaang-Noi | ahh | [20:41] |
boonies4u-Andro | well, my guess is that asset holders won't honor bonds Nefario holds | [20:41] |
boonies4u-Andro | sorry | [20:41] |
boonies4u-Andro | I meant, asset issuers won't honor bonds Nefario holds | [20:42] |
Chaang-Noi | asset holders wont know who holds what | [20:42] |
boonies4u-Andro | let me correct myself | [20:42] |
boonies4u-Andro | :/ | [20:42] |
boonies4u-Andro | jeeze | [20:42] |
smickles | well, if i get a list of shareholders and associated amounts for s2cm and mpoe.etf, then i'll honor them | [20:43] |
smickles | otherwise, i cant | [20:44] |
smickles | also, fiduciary responcibility would require me to verify the lists somehow | [20:44] |
smickles | ;;gpg info nefario | [20:45] |
gribble | User 'nefario', with keyid 28DD49E2A68F4B7C, fingerprint 03B47461C1E526576917215728DD49E2A68F4B7C, and bitcoin address None, registered on Mon Jul 11 23:17:47 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=nefario . Currently not authenticated. | [20:45] |
smickles | Would the data being signed by that keyid be sufficient verrification? | [20:45] |
pigeons | probably as good as you can reasonably hope for in this situation | [20:46] |
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boonies4u-Andro | regarding what goat was saying, I don't think issuers should let Nefario get any unclaimed bonds | [20:49] |
boonies4u-Andro | that would be rewarding his behavior | [20:50] |
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boonies4u-Andro | unless Nefario is only going to be submitting addresses tied to number of bonds held | [20:51] |
boonies4u-Andro | then it might be difficult to determine who he is among the shareholders | [20:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71300 @ 0.00032346 = 23.0627 BTC [-] | [20:58] |
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Chaang-Noi | aml all stockholders and just assume none are a proxy for nefario? | [21:20] |
boonies4u-Andro | well, I suppose having multiple proxy accounts to fool issuers would work | [21:22] |
boonies4u-Andro | beh | [21:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00032114 = 2.6012 BTC [-] | [21:23] |
femtotube | is that really true that there was so SEC etc agents poking at nefario? It was all just bullshit and excuse | [21:23] |
Chaang-Noi | he is now scared he was breaking the law... | [21:24] |
Chaang-Noi | and wants to protect him self as far as i can gather... | [21:24] |
Chaang-Noi | incase the sec or what not comes in... | [21:24] |
Chaang-Noi | would be best if nefario said something | [21:24] |
Chaang-Noi | if the sec came down on him, no way would they let him still operate | [21:24] |
pigeons | don't know if the sec contacted nefario, but the people who talked to the sec say the sec specifically was asking about glbse, "how you got your glbse account" and ppt funds on glbse | [21:26] |
pigeons | for example danieldaniel (i know) | [21:26] |
Chaang-Noi | yes the sec did contact nefario | [21:28] |
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Chaang-Noi | i have pretty solid info on that, but that was a while ago and he kept operating | [21:28] |
Chaang-Noi | he then saw a lawyer and saw the light i guess... | [21:29] |
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boonies4u-Andro | maybe it about getting asset holder info | [21:29] |
boonies4u-Andro | might explain why they let him keep operating | [21:29] |
boonies4u-Andro | it is about* | [21:29] |
femtotube | pigeons: all they had to do was read the forum or use the Make a account. How stupid are the agents? LOL | [21:29] |
femtotube | not that stupid for sure :) | [21:30] |
pigeons | femtotube: i agree. but also i wonder if they were curious how the alleged "victims" got involved | [21:30] |
boonies4u-Andro | pigeons: the sec contacting nefario, while proving that they are sec | [21:30] |
boonies4u-Andro | not, someone on an anonymous account claiming to be sec | [21:30] |
pigeons | boonies4u-Andro: the sec proved to me they were the sec | [21:31] |
boonies4u-Andro | how? | [21:31] |
pigeons | fuck, you really don't believe the sec sent otc members an email saying there is a private investigation into bitcoin securities, and that most of us didn't research to a comfortable degree wether or not it was legit? | [21:31] |
boonies4u-Andro | I doubt the sec, or anyone claiming to be the sec sent you, nefario, or goat emails | [21:32] |
pigeons | we called them, using the phone number on the particular investigators name on the website gave the reference nu,ber on the email and asked if they sent it | [21:33] |
pigeons | the ysaid they did | [21:33] |
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pigeons | are you saiying that me and practically all the people i trust here are lying? or at which point in this step did they fools us? cause i'll give you another way it was verified at that point | [21:34] |
femtotube | I guess nefario was just bullshitting everyone in London | [21:34] |
boonies4u-Andro | so the emails contained the information necessary to confirm that they sent you the email(s) | [21:35] |
femtotube | moving glbse and what not. | [21:35] |
boonies4u-Andro | so the emails contained the information necessary to confirm that they sent you the email(s)? | [21:35] |
pigeons | one sec i'll show it to you | [21:35] |
boonies4u-Andro | sorry, didn't realize I double posted | [21:35] |
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pigeons | http://pastebin.com/pyFKBRj5 | [21:38] |
pigeons | look that guy up with google, call his office, ask if he sent the email about NY-8834 and what it's about | [21:39] |
pigeons | I guess I had to literally beg you to believe that Yes The SEC is Interested IN GLBSE. | [21:39] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah they are interested | [21:41] |
rg | california girls we're undeniable | [21:41] |
rg | fine fresh fierce we got it on lock | [21:41] |
rg | sun kissed skin so hot | [21:41] |
rg | we'll met your popsicle | [21:42] |
rg | oh oh oh oh oh oh | [21:42] |
rg | oh oh oh oh oh oh | [21:42] |
smickles | rg, ftw | [21:42] |
rg | sure doesnt feel like a win | [21:43] |
rg | so much drama on the forum still | [21:43] |
rg | about me saying 'glbse has backups' | [21:43] |
rg | guruvan is now claiming that that's releasing customer info | [21:43] |
rg | smickles breaths oxygen and needs food to live. | [21:43] |
rg | ^--- releasing customer info! | [21:43] |
boonies4u-Andro | pigeons: i knew they were interested, I just didn't expect them to knock before coming in | [21:46] |
pigeons | they did | [21:47] |
rg | hehe | [21:47] |
rg | this all started with pirate | [21:48] |
rg | without pirate the SEC still wouldnt know what bitcoin is | [21:48] |
pigeons | it did kinda start with pirate | [21:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65700 @ 0.000315 = 20.6955 BTC [-] | [21:48] |
rg | i guess the funniest part about all this | [21:50] |
rg | is it proves mircea correct | [21:50] |
rg | with his glbse hate-paper | [21:50] |
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femtotube | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117009.msg1253694#msg1253694 | [21:56] |
femtotube | this SEC bull shit is starting to sound more stupid by the minute. | [21:57] |
pigeons | Evolvex works for the SEC and wants one link to visit | [21:57] |
pigeons | Did theymos send the coins nefario claims to be waiting on? | [21:59] |
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boonies4u-Andro | "Matthewh3 - "All users coins on the GLBSE is safe and untouched. Nafario wants to return them as soon as possible as they are a legal liability to him. He also said he will soon have a way for asset issuers to pay dividends but not trade shares. "" | [22:00] |
boonies4u-Andro | uhoh | [22:00] |
boonies4u-Andro | sounds like those who don't want trouble can't sell their shares if they wanted to | [22:01] |
pigeons | i worry from matthewh3's report that nefario may feel he needs those coins to pay a lawyer for survival may thus feel justified if he "can't" return them. | [22:01] |
pigeons | But to be less shitty to nefario, I beleived what theymos reported word for word, and either theymos did stretch that, or nefario is lying | [22:02] |
pigeons | anyway, the sooner coins are returned and accounts codes given out, the better. | [22:03] |
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boonies4u-Andro | true, but there will always be some people who won't submit documents | [22:06] |
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matthewh3 | Nafario hasn't paid a penny in legal fees and no Theymos has not sent any coins. The only way everyone won't get there coins is if Theymos doesn't return them. That's all I'm saying from now on and probably shouldn't have even said that :/ | [22:06] |
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pigeons | yeah, well everything should be returned without submitting any documents other than the acocunt information nefario already has | [22:07] |
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boonies4u-Andro | Matthewh3 - "I think he will need full legal ID to pay back coins and shares. Otherwise he risks being charged with possible money laundering and/or funding terrorism. Tho he won't disclose that information unless requested by the government/police." | [22:08] |
boonies4u-Andro | the question is what will happen to shares and coins that aren't claimed? | [22:08] |
boonies4u-Andro | I think they should go back to the issuer if that is the case | [22:08] |
pigeons | they go to the issuer anyway | [22:09] |
matthewh3 | I'm not Nefario's PR and probably shouldn't have spoke about our private conversation. | [22:09] |
pigeons | i know you're not matthewh3, and thanks for letting us know, i understand what you're saying | [22:09] |
boonies4u-Andro | probably not | [22:10] |
pigeons | if you are shutting down, you get out as fast as you can, let everyone have their stuff back. if you require new id to give back someone's stuff, you either are going to give that info to somebody, or you think you may need to bargain giving that info to somebody in the future | [22:12] |
pigeons | you wouldn't want to take everyone's info to add to the shit you're in otherwise | [22:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00031544 = 0.2524 BTC [+] | [22:13] |
pigeons | if he doesn't end up asking for id then i was too critical of nefario | [22:13] |
boonies4u-Andro | if he doesn't end up asking for id, GLBSE is going to be dead | [22:14] |
boonies4u-Andro | and Nefario is going to go to jail | [22:15] |
boonies4u-Andro | if this is as bad as we think it is | [22:15] |
rg | i dont think nefario will go to jail | [22:18] |
rg | they told him to stop-- he did | [22:18] |
rg | now if glbse.bit or glbse.onion showed up | [22:18] |
rg | theyd probably go after him again | [22:18] |
boonies4u-Andro | if he doesn't end up asking for id | [22:19] |
boonies4u-Andro | and he returns the coins | [22:19] |
boonies4u-Andro | ;;seen nefario | [22:21] |
gribble | nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: |
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boonies4u-Andro | hmmm | [22:21] |
rdponticelli | ;;echo nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 50 years, 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: |
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gribble | nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 50 years, 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: |
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rdponticelli | There | [22:22] |
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matthewh3 | I think if a I2p exchange popped up and used hybrid wallets like blockchain.info then users wouldn't have to worry about the OP's running off with all the coins. If an I2p exchange popped like the GLBSE, Cryptostocks or LTC-Global how could users trust them. I know The Silk Road as been operational for a while but it could just disappear anytime? | [22:25] |
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boonies4u-Andro | killed buffer? | [22:34] |
boonies4u-Andro | that's new to me | [22:34] |
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dub | how bout nao | [22:35] |
boonies4u-Andro | i know he could have put in any reason for quitting | [22:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00031508 = 5.0098 BTC [-] | [22:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62453 @ 0.000315 = 19.6727 BTC [-] | [22:38] |
boonies4u-Andro | but "killed buffer" sounds like some kind of server message | [22:38] |
dub | its not | [22:39] |
dub | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117009.0 | [22:42] |
dub | brilliant move, say nothing to anyone except an illiterate 9 year old | [22:42] |
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boonies4u | I just realized I was using the wrong name | [22:44] |
boonies4u | silly me | [22:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 9 @ 0.08179875 = 0.7362 BTC [+] | [23:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00031333 = 8.8359 BTC [-] | [23:51] |
grubles | !ticker s.dice | [23:51] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00327011 / 0.00339995 (454373 shares, 1,485.85 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00333843 / 0.0034 (1700331 shares, 5,676.45 BTC) | [23:51] |
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