Forum logs for 07 Oct 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
knotwork mircea_popescu maybe MPEX should officially have a location in a specific city of Romanian nation on a specific planet within the Galactic Milieu, where the govt of that Freeciv nation can even document specific law that applies to such markets operating on their territory of that planet [00:00]
knotwork the Romanian nation has not been claimed yet by any players [00:00]
knotwork (Take a look at Digitalis OT server's asset contracts, their jurisdiction is the city MI5ius on the planet known as M5) [00:01]
mircea_popescu ugh that was confusing. [00:05]
mircea_popescu but im in timisoara [00:05]
knotwork is that a world, nation, province, city, novel, or what? [00:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00037433 = 5.9893 BTC [-] [00:05]
mircea_popescu .g timisoara [00:06]
markac mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timi%C8%99oara [00:06]
mircea_popescu its a city! [00:06]
knotwork if it is a major city, probably most planets on which the Romanian nation builds many cities will have one by that name [00:07]
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mircea_popescu like 4th largest i think [00:07]
knotwork just like most Canadian planets have an Ottawa and a Toronto and so on and Brit planets usually have a London and a Liverpool etc [00:07]
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knotwork in this case its the software developers, they package existing/historic city names as default names so players dont need to exert imagination to invent names for cities [00:15]
knotwork MI-5ius being an exception, as the main city where the Martian Intelligence service's section 5 is based [00:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24269 @ 0.00037521 = 9.106 BTC [+] [00:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17917 @ 0.00037546 = 6.7271 BTC [+] [00:31]
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Bugpowder Nice find : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=116835.msg1251220#msg1251220 [00:45]
mircea_popescu haha i been pasting the orig link i nhere today [00:47]
Bugpowder Go Obama [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18978 @ 0.00037546 = 7.1255 BTC [+] [00:56]
Ukto mircea_popescu: man, all these people with crazy ass govt concpiracy theories [00:57]
Ukto "omg.. black helicopteres coming for my bitcoins!" [00:57]
mircea_popescu it is a little exaggerate isnt it. [00:58]
mircea_popescu i think it might be related to SR. [00:58]
Bugpowder OMG black helicopters are coming for my investors bitcoins. I better steal them [00:58]
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mircea_popescu myeah. [00:59]
mircea_popescu i'll bet you ancient spanish golden dubloons vs delicious cream filled doughnuts that in about a year's time mccarthy shows up all lambert-like [00:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6677 @ 0.00037447 = 2.5003 BTC [-] [01:22]
mircea_popescu omg quitters. [01:23]
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kakobrekla ops. [01:38]
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grubles !ticker s.dice [01:46]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00321255 / 0.00339995 (53350 shares, 171.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00337158 / 0.0034 (1606703 shares, 5,417.13 BTC) [01:46]
grubles !ticker s.bvps [01:46]
assbot [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.0027501 / 0.00332457 / 0.00350001 (3510 shares, 11.67 BTC), 30day: 0.001175 / 0.00340428 / 0.00359486 (74170 shares, 252.50 BTC) [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00037447 = 1.5353 BTC [-] [01:47]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 14 @ 0.03 = 0.42 BTC [+] [01:47]
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Ukto at the park today... https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvcet8u79h8yu6w/2012-10-06%2015.13.16.jpg <-- some landscaper played WAAAY too much minecraft. [01:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22322 @ 0.00037528 = 8.377 BTC [+] [02:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38880 @ 0.00037575 = 14.6092 BTC [+] [02:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 650 @ 0.15735201 = 102.2788 BTC [-] [02:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35623 @ 0.00037447 = 13.3397 BTC [-] [02:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7160 @ 0.00037366 = 2.6754 BTC [-] [02:46]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 650 @ 0.19800156 = 128.701 BTC [+] [02:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21286 @ 0.00037219 = 7.9224 BTC [-] [03:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00339995 = 1.87 BTC [+] [03:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7440 @ 0.00037172 = 2.7656 BTC [-] [04:06]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [04:14]
gribble Best bid: 11.99991, Best ask: 12, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 12, 24 hour volume: 38173, 24 hour low: 12, 24 hour high: 12.8136 [04:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00037067 = 1.6309 BTC [-] [04:31]
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boonies4u well, I activated my loan... [04:31]
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boonies4u anyone know how long BFL will be accepting trade-ins for ASICs? [04:33]
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rdponticelli boonies4u: answering your question would requiere to assume a whole lot of uncertainties to be true... [04:37]
boonies4u iirc they would be accepting them for trade in for some time after releasing pre orders [04:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 437913 @ 0.0032725 = 1433.0703 BTC [-] [04:39]
rdponticelli Yeah, but in first place you're assuming that BFL is making ASICS, that they're going to be ready on a relatively short term... [04:39]
rdponticelli That they're going to accept a swap for that supposed new product... [04:40]
boonies4u oh, i'm in no rush to get an ASIC [04:40]
rdponticelli That's a lot of assumptions [04:40]
boonies4u if they aren't making ASICs, I'll be stuck with an FPGA [04:40]
boonies4u i'm not pre-ordering [04:41]
rdponticelli Ok, I'm just saying that until ALL of those assumptions becomes a certainty, your question is impossible to answer [04:42]
boonies4u do you remember hearing that they would be taking in trade-ins for some time? [04:42]
rdponticelli Yeah, I read a lot of people saying a lot of things [04:43]
rdponticelli And yes, they say they would take trade-ins [04:43]
boonies4u hmm [04:44]
rdponticelli But I don't know if those supposed trade-ins would be limited in time [04:44]
boonies4u I'll just wait until I get an email back [04:44]
boonies4u and eat whatever costs come from BTC price drop [04:44]
rdponticelli I'm sure you can hedge your position [04:45]
boonies4u this is my position : https://btcjam.com/listings/38 [04:45]
rdponticelli Oh, you took a loan to buy harware? [04:48]
boonies4u and mining turds [04:52]
rdponticelli lol [04:52]
boonies4u and without the mining turds, I need to bring in mined coins ASAP [04:52]
rdponticelli Well, with glbse down, you're safe from the turds, at least [04:52]
boonies4u I wasn't afraid of the turds [04:53]
boonies4u and neither were my investors apparently [04:53]
rdponticelli Ok [04:53]
boonies4u I am afraid of waiting 3 weeks for an FPGA to get here, as I burn through coins [04:54]
rdponticelli Yeah, is a sensible time to buy hardware, so close of the reward halving.... [04:54]
rdponticelli Lots of uncertainties [04:55]
boonies4u maybe you were right about the mining turds [04:55]
boonies4u might have just been one less thing that could fuck me [04:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 10 @ 0.05188801 = 0.5189 BTC [+] [04:57]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 10 @ 0.06815531 = 0.6816 BTC [-] [04:58]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+] [05:00]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 313 @ 0.78195045 = 244.7505 BTC [+] [05:00]
rdponticelli I don't know, but if asics really come out, the turds are going to plumbet even more [05:03]
rdponticelli If there'll be no asic, they can recover some value, as the market has been pricing in that possibility from a while now... [05:04]
rdponticelli It's all a gamble [05:04]
boonies4u Giga's upgrade is nice though [05:04]
rdponticelli Yeah, if it happens [05:04]
rdponticelli Now without glbse... [05:05]
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boonies4u I think the days of private mining contracts have returned [05:05]
rdponticelli I bought some dirty cheap giga.etf, but again, it's a gamble.... [05:05]
boonies4u anything involving bitcoin is a gamble [05:06]
boonies4u unless you're a business only accepting bitcoin through bitpay [05:06]
boonies4u accepting only fiat [05:06]
rdponticelli Basically [05:06]
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boonies4u *sigh* [05:08]
noagendamarket If i was the feds i wpould just go around stealing bitcoins and scamming to destroy its confidence [05:08]
boonies4u some people say MNW was a plant [05:08]
noagendamarket a pot plant maybe [05:09]
boonies4u anyone realize if you spin MNW around it reads MNW [05:09]
rdponticelli I won't have smoked MNW... :/ [05:09]
boonies4u anyone actually know his middle name? [05:09]
smickles So it looks like the Tucson Chamber of Commerce likes me :D [05:10]
mod6 :) [05:10]
mod6 did you move there yet smickles? [05:10]
smickles mod6: yeah, I'm here, we found a place to live day before yesterday, and just started putting our stuff in there today [05:10]
mod6 thats awesome. i miss the weather! [05:11]
mod6 .. i gotta head down there soon and visit [05:12]
smickles sweet, I wonder how many 'bitcoiners' are within range of me now? [05:13]
smickles (rogue question mark) [05:13]
boonies4u where are ya? [05:13]
boonies4u Arizone? [05:13]
smickles Tucson AZ [05:13]
boonies4u Arizona* [05:13]
boonies4u well there's the drug lords in Mexico [05:14]
boonies4u and the Startups in California [05:14]
boonies4u and the gold bugs in Texas [05:14]
smickles the first food joint we went to happend to be a 40 yr old chineese food place, family owned and delicious [05:15]
mod6 nice :) [05:15]
mod6 you'll have to give eegees a try [05:15]
boonies4u they accept bitcoin? [05:15]
boonies4u ;3 [05:15]
smickles mod6: yeah, they're everywhere! [05:15]
noagendamarket lots of pirates in texas [05:16]
smickles boonies4u: I wasn't prepared to pay in btc, so I didn't ask [05:16]
mod6 f yeah, its my personal fav. [05:16]
smickles but now I should be [05:16]
mod6 <3 t-town [05:16]
boonies4u smickles: would have been embarrassing if they said yes [05:16]
boonies4u and you had none [05:16]
boonies4u XD [05:16]
noagendamarket lol [05:16]
noagendamarket "just ahve to liquidate my illegal shares first " [05:17]
smickles lol [05:17]
boonies4u same here [05:17]
boonies4u I remember it hard to get btc out of GLBSE before [05:17]
boonies4u now it's like that + Jigsaw [05:17]
smickles were there developments in the last 8 hous? [05:18]
smickles *hours [05:18]
boonies4u *looks out window* [05:19]
boonies4u THEY STILL MAD [05:19]
smickles lol [05:19]
smickles as hell? [05:19]
smickles are they going to take it anymore? [05:19]
boonies4u pitchforks_torches.gif [05:19]
noagendamarket wait till monday I guess [05:20]
boonies4u i'd bug Theymos [05:20]
boonies4u smickles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08 [05:20]
boonies4u ? [05:20]
Diablo-D3 heh [05:22]
noagendamarket should just use opensim and run a virtual stock exchaneg inside it [05:22]
Diablo-D3 boonies4u: I was that way for an entire month [05:22]
Diablo-D3 and you know what? [05:22]
Diablo-D3 nefario won in the end [05:22]
noagendamarket getting mad doesnt do anything. [05:22]
boonies4u noagendamarket: getting glad makes you a poser though [05:22]
Diablo-D3 so Im going to go back to my default policy [05:23]
Diablo-D3 I simply dont give a fuck. [05:23]
Diablo-D3 And you know what? Im happy! [05:23]
boonies4u this behavior makes me very apathetic [05:24]
Diablo-D3 No more stress, no more babysitting trolls, no more losing the sleep I already dont get, no more daydreaming about something thats never going to happen, no more fucking bullshit [05:24]
boonies4u complacency is a disease [05:24]
smickles boonies4u: what about sex? [05:25]
smickles or complacent sex? [05:25]
boonies4u what? [05:25]
boonies4u ... [05:25]
smickles dunno, just being odd, i suppose [05:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00037067 = 3.336 BTC [-] [05:26]
boonies4u *cough* [05:26]
boonies4u ok [05:26]
Diablo-D3 complacency isnt a disease [05:28]
Diablo-D3 long term stress resulting in a heart attach is a disease. [05:28]
smickles complacency probably causes more heart disease than stress [05:28]
____Atlas_____ Life is a disease [05:28]
____Atlas_____ Cured by death [05:29]
smickles fat fucks [05:29]
____Atlas_____ /emo [05:29]
____Atlas_____ Some idiot just put a bunch of anarchist propaganda in the Bitcoin wikipedia page. [05:29]
Diablo-D3 seriously, what do I get out of continuing to fight this? [05:30]
Diablo-D3 theres no reward. [05:30]
boonies4u pro-anarchist propaganda? [05:30]
boonies4u Diablo-D3: given your behavior, I won't take your seriously [05:30]
____Atlas_____ It was more like "Bitcoin is an anarchist wetdream." [05:30]
boonies4u from now on [05:30]
____Atlas_____ "Stay the fuck away normal people." [05:30]
____Atlas_____ "WOOO ANARCHY" [05:31]
boonies4u ____Atlas_____: you're an anarchist night-tremor [05:31]
boonies4u or is it terror? [05:31]
____Atlas_____ I am just totally apolitical at this point. [05:31]
boonies4u Agorist [05:31]
boonies4u ? [05:31]
____Atlas_____ That would be an apt description. [05:31]
Diablo-D3 boonies4u: take me seriously for what? I spent hundreds of hours trying to move DMC forward [05:32]
boonies4u hundreds? [05:32]
Diablo-D3 yeah. [05:33]
boonies4u like 200 hundred, or closer to 1000? [05:33]
Diablo-D3 bottom end of the scale [05:33]
____Atlas_____ I have never heard somebody describe something in 100s of hours [05:33]
boonies4u oh ok then [05:34]
____Atlas_____ Usually you move on to weeks at that point. [05:34]
smickles ;;ticker [05:34]
gribble Best bid: 12.2, Best ask: 12.3098, Bid-ask spread: 0.10980, Last trade: 12.3098, 24 hour volume: 40408, 24 hour low: 11.95, 24 hour high: 12.8136 [05:34]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [05:34]
gribble 12.43 [05:34]
boonies4u ____Atlas_____: it means that he didn't put in consistent hours per week [05:34]
smickles 12.2? [05:34]
____Atlas_____ Damn it [05:34]
____Atlas_____ I should of sold this morning [05:34]
smickles with a low under 12?!@! [05:34]
____Atlas_____ Yeah, just standard weekend dip affair [05:35]
____Atlas_____ Nobody buys on weekends [05:35]
____Atlas_____ so sell sell sell [05:35]
boonies4u it dipped below 12? [05:35]
smickles well, combined with a diff increase [05:35]
boonies4u ____Atlas_____: even with GLBSE? [05:35]
____Atlas_____ People could be speculating on that [05:35]
smickles 24 hour low: 11.95, boonies4u [05:35]
boonies4u "could be" [05:35]
boonies4u smickles: yeah I saw... [05:36]
smickles I dunno if glbse affected the exchange rate at all [05:36]
smickles which is a little sad [05:36]
boonies4u that you don't know? [05:36]
____Atlas_____ Reasonably, it should [05:36]
smickles what have we been doing that had so little affect [05:36]
____Atlas_____ Mining bonds and all that jazz [05:37]
smickles ag, that carp [05:37]
____Atlas_____ Apparently BFL was in cohoots with GLBSE [05:37]
____Atlas_____ Planning to make things more, erm, efficient. [05:37]
smickles howso? [05:37]
____Atlas_____ They wanted to give GLBSE issuers the first batch of rigs [05:37]
____Atlas_____ So it was the start of something nice for once [05:37]
____Atlas_____ This is just statements on the forums but it is likely true [05:38]
____Atlas_____ was* [05:38]
Diablo-D3 [10:34:00] <____Atlas_____> Usually you move on to weeks at that point. [05:38]
Diablo-D3 weeks doesnt make sense [05:38]
boonies4u I wish the best of luck to Giga [05:38]
Diablo-D3 what is a week? 40 hours? 60? 80? 20? [05:39]
____Atlas_____ 40 hours [05:39]
____Atlas_____ Unless you're in China [05:39]
Diablo-D3 40 means you're a slacker. [05:39]
boonies4u Diablo-D3: you probably didn't put 40 in a week [05:39]
____Atlas_____ or a workaholic [05:39]
____Atlas_____ oh lawd [05:39]
Diablo-D3 companies dont startup on only 40 hours a week. [05:39]
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boonies4u what did you do again? [05:39]
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Diablo-D3 boonies4u: in the end? nothing much [05:40]
Diablo-D3 all I did was dance to nefario's tune while he fucked my shareholders [05:40]
boonies4u what were you doing that took 40+ hours a week? [05:41]
Diablo-D3 boonies4u: you do know what DMC was doing, right? [05:41]
boonies4u mining? [05:41]
Diablo-D3 a little bigger than that. [05:41]
boonies4u Diablo Mining Company right? [05:41]
Diablo-D3 a green energy powered data center focusing on high density computing. [05:41]
Diablo-D3 mining was just a small part of it. [05:41]
boonies4u high density computing? [05:42]
noagendamarket DMC had no equipment [05:42]
boonies4u as in, if cooling fails, your computers will overheat quickly? [05:42]
boonies4u I only really paid attention to the turds [05:43]
boonies4u if you weren't selling turds, you probably weren't on my radar [05:43]
boonies4u or didn't have the volume to attract me [05:43]
Diablo-D3 boonies4u: cooling fails? heh, not with redundant cooling [05:44]
Diablo-D3 Im talking about shit mounted in racks. [05:44]
Diablo-D3 or rather, 25-30kw of shit mounted in racks, per rack. [05:44]
boonies4u that's what I imagined [05:44]
boonies4u so what did the shares represent? % ownership? [05:44]
Diablo-D3 yup. [05:45]
boonies4u oh shit [05:45]
boonies4u you anonymous? [05:45]
Diablo-D3 doesnt matter, x% of zero is still zero. [05:45]
____Atlas_____ http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif [05:46]
boonies4u i'm confused, do you have any assets? [05:46]
noagendamarket no [05:46]
Diablo-D3 boonies4u: physical? no [05:46]
Diablo-D3 for the short term, I was reinvesting it into other companies [05:47]
boonies4u oh lawd [05:47]
boonies4u ____Atlas_____: why did you link a 1x1 gif? [05:47]
____Atlas_____ Are you blind? [05:47]
____Atlas_____ lol [05:47]
____Atlas_____ idk [05:47]
Diablo-D3 ____Atlas_____: that isnt the image you thought it was [05:47]
____Atlas_____ nope [05:47]
boonies4u title : qm.gif (1x1) [05:47]
Diablo-D3 boonies4u: a million dollar project does not get done overnight. [05:48]
Diablo-D3 Im not sure why people think it does. [05:48]
boonies4u i was oh lawding at your reinvesting [05:48]
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____Atlas_____ http://i.imgur.com/sSIhV.png [05:50]
Diablo-D3 yup, and thanks to nefario's bullshit, a large part of that money was burned [05:50]
Diablo-D3 and then thanks to MORE of nefario's bullshit, it all burned [05:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0003711 = 3.711 BTC [+] [05:51]
Diablo-D3 and so did everyone else's [05:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25460 @ 0.00037111 = 9.4485 BTC [+] [05:51]
boonies4u I can understand why you are apathetic [05:51]
boonies4u I bet your shareholders love it *rolls eyes* [05:51]
Diablo-D3 well, they'll have to fight nefario, not me [05:52]
Diablo-D3 Ive fought enough for the community, its time for them to return the favor [05:52]
noagendamarket glbse is controlled by nefarios lawyer [05:52]
boonies4u who i probably butting heads with Theymos [05:52]
noagendamarket yes [05:53]
noagendamarket theymos doesnt agree with lawyers lol [05:53]
boonies4u I'd bet Theymos is the voice of reason [05:53]
noagendamarket even if we removed nefario as ceo it wouldnt have mattered [05:55]
boonies4u this is about Goat right? [05:56]
Diablo-D3 heh, goat [05:56]
Diablo-D3 at one point I was saying Im glad I sold all of my goat holding [05:56]
Diablo-D3 *holdings [05:56]
Diablo-D3 guess it doesnt matter now [05:56]
noagendamarket its more likely to be about the pirate stuff than anything [05:58]
noagendamarket if glbse had ID requirements inn the first place most likely the pirate stuff wouldnt have gotten so nuts [05:58]
boonies4u inn the first place.. [05:59]
boonies4u *writes that down* [05:59]
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noagendamarket :P [06:10]
boonies4u anyone willing to lend me the difference between my 99 btc and the total cost of two BFL FPGA singles? [06:13]
noagendamarket BFL is a scam :P [06:14]
boonies4u you mean the FPGA's that currently exist are a scam? [06:14]
mircea_popescu noagendamarket ya, but so is bitcoin [06:14]
noagendamarket lol [06:14]
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boonies4u ;;roulette [06:15]
gribble *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! [06:15]
* gribble reloads and spins the chambers. [06:15]
boonies4u crap [06:15]
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mircea_popescu ;;echo ;;roulette [06:16]
gribble ;;roulette [06:16]
mircea_popescu wellll ? [06:16]
mircea_popescu .echo ;;roulette [06:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 400 @ 0.0035 = 1.4 BTC [+] [06:16]
boonies4u mircea_popescu: trying to get assbot to do ;;roulette? [06:19]
boonies4u lol [06:19]
mircea_popescu ya [06:20]
____Atlas_____ ;;roulette [06:34]
gribble *click* [06:34]
____Atlas_____ ;;roulette [06:34]
gribble *click* [06:34]
____Atlas_____ ;;roulette [06:34]
gribble *click* [06:34]
____Atlas_____ ;;roulette [06:34]
gribble *click* [06:34]
____Atlas_____ ;;roulette [06:34]
gribble *click* [06:34]
____Atlas_____ /fire [06:34]
____Atlas_____ ;;fire [06:34]
gribble Error: "fire" is not a valid command. [06:34]
____Atlas_____ ;;shoot [06:34]
gribble Error: "shoot" is not a valid command. [06:34]
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____Atlas_____ ;;roulette [06:34]
gribble *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! [06:34]
* gribble reloads and spins the chambers. [06:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23628 @ 0.00037366 = 8.8288 BTC [+] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00037067 = 19.7567 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51500 @ 0.0003706 = 19.0859 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47700 @ 0.00037005 = 17.6514 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00037 = 2.849 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3583 @ 0.00036906 = 1.3223 BTC [-] [06:35]
____Atlas_____ Blanks can still kill [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42256 @ 0.00036883 = 15.5853 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00036878 = 0.0922 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57496 @ 0.00036869 = 21.1982 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11784 @ 0.00036756 = 4.3313 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00036731 = 5.1056 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00036651 = 11.6917 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00036611 = 15.6329 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58959 @ 0.00036537 = 21.5418 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62800 @ 0.00036149 = 22.7016 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.000351 = 0.8775 BTC [-] [06:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153359 @ 0.00035 = 53.6757 BTC [-] [06:35]
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____Atlas_____ http://blockchain.info/charts/total-bitcoins [06:37]
grubles someones taking a dump on mpoe [06:37]
____Atlas_____ What happened in September? [06:37]
mircea_popescu they hate meee [06:37]
grubles <3 mircea_popescu [06:37]
mircea_popescu :) [06:37]
cryptorific ____Atlas_____: a large increase in hashing capacity [06:38]
mircea_popescu ya, btc time is not fixed to irl time [06:38]
cryptorific the difficulty adjustments weren't enough to compensate for the large and irregular hash power increase as far as i can see [06:39]
mircea_popescu ;;rate 1 Kumala vircurex/cryptostocks guy. [06:42]
gribble Error: 'Kumala' is not a valid integer. [06:42]
mircea_popescu ;;rate Kumala 1 vircurex/cryptostocks guy. [06:42]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system. [06:42]
mircea_popescu ggrrr [06:42]
mircea_popescu ;;rate Kumala 1 vircurex/cryptostocks guy. [06:43]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Kumala has been recorded. [06:43]
mircea_popescu halelujah. [06:43]
____Atlas_____ So we may end up seeing all the BTC generated earlier than 2030? [06:46]
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mircea_popescu ____Atlas_____ its quite probable. [06:47]
____Atlas_____ Man I'll be old then [06:49]
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____Atlas_____ Old men running the world. A new age! [06:54]
____Atlas_____ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxi7JRJrod4 [06:54]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla add cryptostox stream ? http://twitter.com/Cryptostocks [06:57]
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mircea_popescu but pleaze filter to btc only omg. [06:57]
grubles what the heck is DVC? [06:59]
grubles and DVB? [06:59]
mircea_popescu devscamcoins [06:59]
dub double vaginal coin [06:59]
mircea_popescu and devscambutts [06:59]
grubles ah devcoins [07:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 480 @ 0.0035 = 1.68 BTC [+] [07:00]
grubles wtf is a devcoin [07:00]
mircea_popescu lol. grubbies, why don you make your own coin ? [07:00]
mircea_popescu grublits. [07:01]
____Atlas_____ grubles: an alt coin out of many [07:01]
____Atlas_____ Soon we will have more currencies than the old American confederacy [07:01]
mircea_popescu they never had as many as we do [07:02]
mircea_popescu solidcoin counts as 10. [07:02]
grubles mircea_popescu, because i believe in buttcoins [07:02]
mircea_popescu aaa, but do buttcoins believe in you ? [07:02]
grubles that is the age old question [07:03]
____Atlas_____ We need a Buttcoin [07:04]
cryptorific lol, just to make fun of the trolls? [07:05]
____Atlas_____ Ha, they would have as much fun [07:06]
____Atlas_____ and they would probably use them for shit [07:06]
grubles have you ever squeezed your buttcheeks so hard you cracked your lower back? [07:07]
____Atlas_____ I think you need more fiber if you experience that [07:08]
grubles fiber has nothing to do with it [07:08]
grubles sitting on my ass has everything to do with it [07:09]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.mpoe [07:11]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00035 / 0.0003698 / 0.00037575 (2318319 shares, 857.32 BTC), 30day: 0.00034 / 0.00038476 / 0.00042 (65387672 shares, 25,158.64 BTC) [07:11]
noagendamarket you can trade toilet paper for buttcoins [07:22]
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grubles noagendamarket, wtt 10 tp for 20 btc? [07:25]
noagendamarket lol [07:25]
noagendamarket its easy to mail toilet paper [07:25]
noagendamarket double or single ply ? [07:26]
grubles as many as you want holmes [07:26]
grubles i have a direct connect to a supplier in columbia [07:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25032 @ 0.00030391 = 7.6075 BTC [-] [07:27]
mircea_popescu cocaine leaf tp [07:27]
noagendamarket I wonder if you had lsd on toliet paper if you wiped your butt you would get high lol [07:27]
mircea_popescu for all your hhemorhhidal news [07:27]
mircea_popescu needs* [07:27]
noagendamarket bahaha [07:27]
noagendamarket heroin wipes :P [07:27]
cryptorific noagendamarket: you'd have to rub it hard but yea, the skin is pretty thin there and could easily transfer [07:28]
mircea_popescu whole new dimension to chipping [07:28]
cryptorific i knew some hippie ass chicks that would stick weaker acid tabs in their vaginas to help absorb more [07:29]
noagendamarket heh [07:29]
____Atlas_____ what did i just read [07:29]
____Atlas_____ out of context [07:29]
____Atlas_____ that was interesting [07:29]
grubles cryptorific, that makes more sense than getting high off of wiping your ass [07:29]
noagendamarket LOL [07:29]
grubles but i can definitely bet one would get high off of wiping their ass with blotter paper [07:30]
____Atlas_____ http://i.imgur.com/8xfIV.jpg [07:31]
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grubles shopped [07:31]
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____Atlas_____ nope, that's a real -- replica [07:32]
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boonies4u I have come up with 4 options moving forward when it comes to the loan I received. [07:48]
boonies4u while, i created this for my lenders, if anyone has anything to say regarding them, it would be appreciated [07:49]
boonies4u http://pastebin.com/9ZQnzK8R [07:49]
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thestringpuller_ Each asset is unique no? [17:09]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/112hsn/the_reasons_why_bitcoin_securities_cant_be/ [17:09]
knotwork do bonds also require issuer to know current owners? or is that what makes bearer bonds different, not knowing who has them? [17:09]
mircea_popescu if anyone has a reddit account be so kind to point out to them that i don't, and so won't answer there, but they can feel free to make the comments on the article [17:09]
mircea_popescu and get a response. [17:09]
knotwork each asset is unique yes, change even a bit, or a character of whitespace, and the hash changes thus the ID of the asset the contract is about changes [17:10]
knotwork so any change to contract results in a brand new distinct different asset [17:10]
femtotube Chaang-Noi: that markm's OT is not decentralised. It's even worst that centralized. If server, where sec. was issued disappears, security is gone too [17:10]
thestringpuller_ I was more asking, say I have 1000 shares of Asset A, would each one of those 1000 shares be unique, to keep them from being duplicated? [17:11]
Bugpowder You might be better served by posting in the law subreddit [17:11]
knotwork no, they are fungible [17:11]
Bugpowder where a bunch of actual lawyers or at least law students hang out [17:11]
knotwork deeds are each-unique but not yet implemented [17:11]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder i ain't posting it tho, cause i have no acct. [17:11]
femtotube mircea_popescu: then get one [17:11]
femtotube how hard is that? [17:12]
knotwork Audit system is not yet implemented so my server does not spam all receipts out to public published form [17:12]
mircea_popescu i hate accounts. [17:12]
knotwork so yes if my server vanishes issuers will not know what ownership changes happened since their last snapshot [17:12]
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knotwork femtotube, do you mean how hard is spamming all receipts out to public media/channel? [17:14]
knotwork the hard part will be making sure only persons intended to be able to can actually decrypt specific receitps they should be able to see [17:15]
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knotwork might be easier actually to record emails for issuers and spam issuer's email with all receipts about their asset [17:15]
knotwork but that would require "Knowing Your Issuers" [17:16]
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thestringpuller_ KYC [17:16]
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knotwork I actually hoped it might be possible to only know a very few customers, those being the few to whom any actual withdraws from the vault go, everyone else being their customers and dealing with them to buy tokens or cash out tokens [17:18]
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knotwork like how egold and liberty reserve and possibly even pecunix do it, third parties to handle all cashing in and out [17:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14267 @ 0.00025477 = 3.6348 BTC [-] [17:21]
mircea_popescu ewgh wtf happened here. [17:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14633 @ 0.00025477 = 3.728 BTC [-] [17:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00025844 = 6.9262 BTC [+] [17:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00026409 = 9.5072 BTC [+] [17:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65400 @ 0.00027946 = 18.2767 BTC [+] [17:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5778 @ 0.00031314 = 1.8093 BTC [+] [17:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4618 @ 0.00032044 = 1.4798 BTC [+] [17:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 382 @ 0.00035 = 0.1337 BTC [+] [17:25]
Bugpowder WHOOOOO HOOOO [17:26]
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Bugpowder you didn't notice? [17:27]
Bugpowder been buying that shit up all morning [17:27]
mircea_popescu lol wd. [17:27]
Bugpowder 10MM should probably be a nice supporting bid size [17:28]
mircea_popescu i would think. [17:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550000 @ 0.000315 = 1118.25 BTC [-] [17:48]
pigeons ait [17:50]
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pigeons wait for me [17:50]
Ukto 0,o [17:50]
mircea_popescu hum [17:51]
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smickles ;;ticker [18:00]
gribble Best bid: 11.94501, Best ask: 11.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 11.94501, 24 hour volume: 61886, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.78 [18:00]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [18:00]
gribble 12.21 [18:00]
mircea_popescu no wonder people were buying puts lol [18:01]
mircea_popescu ColdHardMetal so how goes man ? [18:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.0003422 = 8.2812 BTC [+] [18:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67300 @ 0.00034111 = 22.9567 BTC [-] [18:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00033888 = 14.4702 BTC [-] [18:18]
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DeaDTerra evening :) [18:22]
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smickles morning :) [18:30]
DeaDTerra any news? [18:31]
smickles "weekend dip" + diff increase + glbse incidnent = lower exchange rate, it seems [18:32]
smickles and mircea_popescu wrote an article [18:32]
smickles http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/ [18:33]
DeaDTerra Yea, I have followed the price ^^ to me it seems like a chance to get some cheap bitcoins :P [18:34]
DeaDTerra No more news on the whole GLBSE stuff? [18:34]
smickles not that I know of [18:37]
mircea_popescu theymos placed the glbse btc at 4-8k [18:38]
mircea_popescu my estimates were 1-2k. something's amiss. [18:38]
DeaDTerra GLBSE btc? [18:38]
DeaDTerra and I thought you were ignoring me ^^ [18:39]
mircea_popescu evoorhees put in a good word. [18:39]
DeaDTerra hahah, I thought so [18:39]
DeaDTerra What do you mean by GLBSE BTC btw? [18:40]
mircea_popescu btc owned in cash by glbse customers on glbse website. [18:40]
DeaDTerra ah [18:40]
DeaDTerra Yea that has to be higher then 1-2k [18:40]
DeaDTerra I personally have 500+ BTC on there [18:40]
DeaDTerra Atleast 5000 BTC I would guess on [18:41]
DeaDTerra probably more [18:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18013 @ 0.00033888 = 6.1042 BTC [-] [18:44]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [18:49]
gribble Best bid: 11.90004, Best ask: 11.9699, Bid-ask spread: 0.06986, Last trade: 11.90004, 24 hour volume: 62374, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.78 [18:49]
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thestringpuller !help [19:01]
assbot List of commands: [19:01]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current MPEX ticker values) [19:01]
Bugpowder !ticker S.MPOE [19:03]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00025015 / 0.00031653 / 0.00037575 (6558468 shares, 2,076.01 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00037846 / 0.00042 (70093609 shares, 26,528.18 BTC) [19:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00033179 = 11.8117 BTC [-] [19:09]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [19:27]
gribble Best bid: 11.93, Best ask: 11.97, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 11.97, 24 hour volume: 62240, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.75999 [19:27]
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kakobrekla oh look, a all-in-one https://www.therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock [19:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20557 @ 0.00033618 = 6.9109 BTC [+] [19:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13843 @ 0.0003389 = 4.6914 BTC [+] [19:34]
boonies4u-Andro L$? [19:35]
boonies4u-Andro Linden Dollars? [19:36]
pigeons yes [19:36]
Bugpowder Nice dividend https://www.therocktrading.com/en/offers/RMIND [19:36]
Bugpowder #therocktrading [19:37]
boonies4u-Andro no one is there [19:38]
boonies4u-Andro lol [19:38]
pigeons no they don't irc [19:38]
boonies4u-Andro i don't see much documentation on RMIND [19:39]
boonies4u-Andro mission statement [19:39]
boonies4u-Andro idk, looking [19:39]
kakobrekla i dont know who runs it [19:40]
kakobrekla but i know a guy that knows him [19:40]
kakobrekla thats it. [19:40]
boonies4u-Andro LOL [19:40]
pigeons i've known him since before there was a bitcoin [19:40]
boonies4u-Andro :Company Prospectus The Rock Mining Industries Total outstanding Shares 400000 100% Bitcoin Production The First Company traded in Bitcoin only!: [19:41]
pigeons yes before it was traded in lindens as all their other stuff, then it moved to bitcoins after linden temp closed their account because someone used stolen lindens to buy bitcoins from them on their exchange [19:42]
boonies4u-Andro lol [19:42]
smickles !!!, woah what? theymos said, "4-5. The database backups can be decrypted by me, justmoon, Gavin, Sirius, and Satoshi. The encrypted backups are distributed among many people." Satoshi!? [19:43]
mircea_popescu smickles sure ? [19:43]
boonies4u-Andro HOLY shit [19:43]
pigeons yeah that's the bitcointalk forum db [19:43]
smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1251861#msg1251861 [19:43]
pigeons not glbse [19:43]
boonies4u-Andro https://www.therocktrading.com/en/exchange/currency [19:43]
smickles oh [19:43]
boonies4u-Andro they have a dollar spread on btc/usd [19:43]
boonies4u-Andro lol [19:43]
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pigeons really? laugh at someone because they have temp low volume resulting in a big spread? like your exchange is better? [19:44]
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pigeons kakobrekla: https://assets-otc.com/ [19:45]
kakobrekla wow dafuq is this [19:45]
boonies4u-Andro I was just pointing out the crazy spread [19:46]
boonies4u-Andro :P [19:46]
boonies4u-Andro of course it is due to low volume [19:47]
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smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1251971#msg1251971 [19:50]
smickles lol [19:50]
smickles I honestly thought glbse had the sense to have an accountant [19:51]
mircea_popescu https://therocktrading.com ?! [19:54]
mircea_popescu da fuck is that lol [19:54]
mircea_popescu Bitcoin Fixed Return Fund [19:54]
mircea_popescu mkay. sigh. [19:54]
boonies4u-Andro MrTiggr: https://therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock [19:57]
boonies4u-Andro mircea_popescu: https://therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock [19:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00033346 = 1.2005 BTC [-] [19:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00033179 = 1.858 BTC [-] [19:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4774191 @ 0.000315 = 1503.8702 BTC [-] [19:58]
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Bugpowder oh boy [19:59]
mircea_popescu boonies4u-Andro oic. [19:59]
boonies4u-Andro though, i'm not seeing any description as to what these bonds represent XD [20:00]
mircea_popescu right. [20:01]
mircea_popescu seems to me like a ponzibond and a miningthing [20:01]
boonies4u-Andro my guess is that they all represent some function of the "The Rock Trading Company" [20:01]
mircea_popescu that assets-otc thing is funnay [20:01]
boonies4u-Andro there's one for arbitrage [20:01]
smickles <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4774191 @ 0.000315 = 1503.8702 BTC [-] 0_o [20:02]
mircea_popescu i thought ppl didn't like mpex. now copying it ? [20:02]
mircea_popescu smickles whoa. was a 2mn ish one before, too [20:02]
mircea_popescu or w/e, 1.1k btc [20:02]
pigeons well if you email them they will keep you up to date on the mining equipment and give you whatever info you ask [20:02]
mircea_popescu anyway, about to take the girls to town! however before i go : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/ [20:02]
mircea_popescu feel free to dump into reddit or w/e [20:02]
boonies4u-Andro I don't think they're copying it [20:03]
boonies4u-Andro I think they're shorting it :P [20:03]
mircea_popescu boonies4u-Andro assets-otc thing looks like a retarded mpex to me. [20:03]
boonies4u-Andro i'm just poking fun at what smickles posted [20:03]
boonies4u-Andro :P [20:03]
pigeons there is a site you can see the management of the gpus and fpgas and what pools they are at and temps and hashes, but hehehe yes down atm [20:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1363237 @ 0.000315 = 429.4197 BTC [-] [20:06]
mircea_popescu mm [20:06]
boonies4u-Andro gpumax? [20:06]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.mpoe [20:06]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00025015 / 0.00031575 / 0.00037575 (12741096 shares, 4,023.10 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.0003733 / 0.00042 (76270870 shares, 28,472.03 BTC) [20:06]
boonies4u-Andro those moving averages? [20:07]
mircea_popescu yes [20:08]
mircea_popescu so i've rebought today like i dunno, half my float ? [20:08]
mircea_popescu wtf lol. [20:08]
boonies4u-Andro I considered opening up a fund on GLBSE instead of getting a loan on btcjam [20:09]
boonies4u-Andro I always liked that in the back of my head, if something bad happens and they lose confidence in the fund, I could buy back bonds [20:09]
FabianB looks like someone needs a lot of money suddenly and sells a lot of MPOE [20:15]
FabianB or is that panic sell? [20:16]
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smickles holy shit, the gov't representatives in romainia are elected by plurality, and they use a civil law based legal system? [20:17]
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boonies4u-Andro lol [20:25]
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pigeons all other countries are run by little girls [20:26]
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angela_merkel pigeons, oh you... *hihihihihihi* [20:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00032349 = 5.9199 BTC [+] [20:32]
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Chaang-Noi i find it kinda odd coldhardmetal left #glbse but is in the other #bitcoin chans... [20:34]
Chaang-Noi wonder what is going on there... [20:34]
smickles Chaang-Noi: i dunno, but it seems like a good time to leave the parting message idid [20:37]
Chaang-Noi i did not see it [20:37]
Chaang-Noi iv been traveling [20:37]
smickles i did it like 1 mn ago [20:37]
smickles do i fail at operating a /part command? [20:37]
Chaang-Noi in #glbse ? [20:38]
smickles yup [20:38]
Chaang-Noi ahhh [20:38]
Chaang-Noi yup [20:38]
Chaang-Noi so are you going to give your AML docs to Nefario ? [20:38]
kakobrekla and the message was? [20:38]
Chaang-Noi * smickles (~smickles@mostofmany.com) has left #GLBSE ("see you later shitlords") [20:38]
kakobrekla ;> [20:39]
smickles Chaang-Noi: is it going to be docs like that? [20:39]
Chaang-Noi i wonder how many BTC and assets nefario will get to claim due to people not handing over AML stuff, or him just saying its not good enough... [20:39]
Chaang-Noi smickles it seems so [20:39]
Chaang-Noi its his "get out of jail free card if people are using glbse to support terrorist and money laundering" [20:40]
Chaang-Noi thats not a direct quote but something like that [20:40]
smickles Chaang-Noi: we'll see. i suppose i'm waiting to be contacted directly, or see something on glbse proper [20:41]
Chaang-Noi yeah me too [20:41]
smickles and in my case, he has a pic of my passport [20:41]
Chaang-Noi ahh [20:41]
boonies4u-Andro well, my guess is that asset holders won't honor bonds Nefario holds [20:41]
boonies4u-Andro sorry [20:41]
boonies4u-Andro I meant, asset issuers won't honor bonds Nefario holds [20:42]
Chaang-Noi asset holders wont know who holds what [20:42]
boonies4u-Andro let me correct myself [20:42]
boonies4u-Andro :/ [20:42]
boonies4u-Andro jeeze [20:42]
smickles well, if i get a list of shareholders and associated amounts for s2cm and mpoe.etf, then i'll honor them [20:43]
smickles otherwise, i cant [20:44]
smickles also, fiduciary responcibility would require me to verify the lists somehow [20:44]
smickles ;;gpg info nefario [20:45]
gribble User 'nefario', with keyid 28DD49E2A68F4B7C, fingerprint 03B47461C1E526576917215728DD49E2A68F4B7C, and bitcoin address None, registered on Mon Jul 11 23:17:47 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=nefario . Currently not authenticated. [20:45]
smickles Would the data being signed by that keyid be sufficient verrification? [20:45]
pigeons probably as good as you can reasonably hope for in this situation [20:46]
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boonies4u-Andro regarding what goat was saying, I don't think issuers should let Nefario get any unclaimed bonds [20:49]
boonies4u-Andro that would be rewarding his behavior [20:50]
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boonies4u-Andro unless Nefario is only going to be submitting addresses tied to number of bonds held [20:51]
boonies4u-Andro then it might be difficult to determine who he is among the shareholders [20:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71300 @ 0.00032346 = 23.0627 BTC [-] [20:58]
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Chaang-Noi aml all stockholders and just assume none are a proxy for nefario? [21:20]
boonies4u-Andro well, I suppose having multiple proxy accounts to fool issuers would work [21:22]
boonies4u-Andro beh [21:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00032114 = 2.6012 BTC [-] [21:23]
femtotube is that really true that there was so SEC etc agents poking at nefario? It was all just bullshit and excuse [21:23]
Chaang-Noi he is now scared he was breaking the law... [21:24]
Chaang-Noi and wants to protect him self as far as i can gather... [21:24]
Chaang-Noi incase the sec or what not comes in... [21:24]
Chaang-Noi would be best if nefario said something [21:24]
Chaang-Noi if the sec came down on him, no way would they let him still operate [21:24]
pigeons don't know if the sec contacted nefario, but the people who talked to the sec say the sec specifically was asking about glbse, "how you got your glbse account" and ppt funds on glbse [21:26]
pigeons for example danieldaniel (i know) [21:26]
Chaang-Noi yes the sec did contact nefario [21:28]
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Chaang-Noi i have pretty solid info on that, but that was a while ago and he kept operating [21:28]
Chaang-Noi he then saw a lawyer and saw the light i guess... [21:29]
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boonies4u-Andro maybe it about getting asset holder info [21:29]
boonies4u-Andro might explain why they let him keep operating [21:29]
boonies4u-Andro it is about* [21:29]
femtotube pigeons: all they had to do was read the forum or use the Make a account. How stupid are the agents? LOL [21:29]
femtotube not that stupid for sure :) [21:30]
pigeons femtotube: i agree. but also i wonder if they were curious how the alleged "victims" got involved [21:30]
boonies4u-Andro pigeons: the sec contacting nefario, while proving that they are sec [21:30]
boonies4u-Andro not, someone on an anonymous account claiming to be sec [21:30]
pigeons boonies4u-Andro: the sec proved to me they were the sec [21:31]
boonies4u-Andro how? [21:31]
pigeons fuck, you really don't believe the sec sent otc members an email saying there is a private investigation into bitcoin securities, and that most of us didn't research to a comfortable degree wether or not it was legit? [21:31]
boonies4u-Andro I doubt the sec, or anyone claiming to be the sec sent you, nefario, or goat emails [21:32]
pigeons we called them, using the phone number on the particular investigators name on the website gave the reference nu,ber on the email and asked if they sent it [21:33]
pigeons the ysaid they did [21:33]
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pigeons are you saiying that me and practically all the people i trust here are lying? or at which point in this step did they fools us? cause i'll give you another way it was verified at that point [21:34]
femtotube I guess nefario was just bullshitting everyone in London [21:34]
boonies4u-Andro so the emails contained the information necessary to confirm that they sent you the email(s) [21:35]
femtotube moving glbse and what not. [21:35]
boonies4u-Andro so the emails contained the information necessary to confirm that they sent you the email(s)? [21:35]
pigeons one sec i'll show it to you [21:35]
boonies4u-Andro sorry, didn't realize I double posted [21:35]
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pigeons http://pastebin.com/pyFKBRj5 [21:38]
pigeons look that guy up with google, call his office, ask if he sent the email about NY-8834 and what it's about [21:39]
pigeons I guess I had to literally beg you to believe that Yes The SEC is Interested IN GLBSE. [21:39]
Chaang-Noi yeah they are interested [21:41]
rg california girls we're undeniable [21:41]
rg fine fresh fierce we got it on lock [21:41]
rg sun kissed skin so hot [21:41]
rg we'll met your popsicle [21:42]
rg oh oh oh oh oh oh [21:42]
rg oh oh oh oh oh oh [21:42]
smickles rg, ftw [21:42]
rg sure doesnt feel like a win [21:43]
rg so much drama on the forum still [21:43]
rg about me saying 'glbse has backups' [21:43]
rg guruvan is now claiming that that's releasing customer info [21:43]
rg smickles breaths oxygen and needs food to live. [21:43]
rg ^--- releasing customer info! [21:43]
boonies4u-Andro pigeons: i knew they were interested, I just didn't expect them to knock before coming in [21:46]
pigeons they did [21:47]
rg hehe [21:47]
rg this all started with pirate [21:48]
rg without pirate the SEC still wouldnt know what bitcoin is [21:48]
pigeons it did kinda start with pirate [21:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65700 @ 0.000315 = 20.6955 BTC [-] [21:48]
rg i guess the funniest part about all this [21:50]
rg is it proves mircea correct [21:50]
rg with his glbse hate-paper [21:50]
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femtotube https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117009.msg1253694#msg1253694 [21:56]
femtotube this SEC bull shit is starting to sound more stupid by the minute. [21:57]
pigeons Evolvex works for the SEC and wants one link to visit [21:57]
pigeons Did theymos send the coins nefario claims to be waiting on? [21:59]
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boonies4u-Andro "Matthewh3 - "All users coins on the GLBSE is safe and untouched. Nafario wants to return them as soon as possible as they are a legal liability to him. He also said he will soon have a way for asset issuers to pay dividends but not trade shares. "" [22:00]
boonies4u-Andro uhoh [22:00]
boonies4u-Andro sounds like those who don't want trouble can't sell their shares if they wanted to [22:01]
pigeons i worry from matthewh3's report that nefario may feel he needs those coins to pay a lawyer for survival may thus feel justified if he "can't" return them. [22:01]
pigeons But to be less shitty to nefario, I beleived what theymos reported word for word, and either theymos did stretch that, or nefario is lying [22:02]
pigeons anyway, the sooner coins are returned and accounts codes given out, the better. [22:03]
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boonies4u-Andro true, but there will always be some people who won't submit documents [22:06]
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matthewh3 Nafario hasn't paid a penny in legal fees and no Theymos has not sent any coins. The only way everyone won't get there coins is if Theymos doesn't return them. That's all I'm saying from now on and probably shouldn't have even said that :/ [22:06]
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pigeons yeah, well everything should be returned without submitting any documents other than the acocunt information nefario already has [22:07]
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boonies4u-Andro Matthewh3 - "I think he will need full legal ID to pay back coins and shares. Otherwise he risks being charged with possible money laundering and/or funding terrorism. Tho he won't disclose that information unless requested by the government/police." [22:08]
boonies4u-Andro the question is what will happen to shares and coins that aren't claimed? [22:08]
boonies4u-Andro I think they should go back to the issuer if that is the case [22:08]
pigeons they go to the issuer anyway [22:09]
matthewh3 I'm not Nefario's PR and probably shouldn't have spoke about our private conversation. [22:09]
pigeons i know you're not matthewh3, and thanks for letting us know, i understand what you're saying [22:09]
boonies4u-Andro probably not [22:10]
pigeons if you are shutting down, you get out as fast as you can, let everyone have their stuff back. if you require new id to give back someone's stuff, you either are going to give that info to somebody, or you think you may need to bargain giving that info to somebody in the future [22:12]
pigeons you wouldn't want to take everyone's info to add to the shit you're in otherwise [22:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00031544 = 0.2524 BTC [+] [22:13]
pigeons if he doesn't end up asking for id then i was too critical of nefario [22:13]
boonies4u-Andro if he doesn't end up asking for id, GLBSE is going to be dead [22:14]
boonies4u-Andro and Nefario is going to go to jail [22:15]
boonies4u-Andro if this is as bad as we think it is [22:15]
rg i dont think nefario will go to jail [22:18]
rg they told him to stop-- he did [22:18]
rg now if glbse.bit or glbse.onion showed up [22:18]
rg theyd probably go after him again [22:18]
boonies4u-Andro if he doesn't end up asking for id [22:19]
boonies4u-Andro and he returns the coins [22:19]
boonies4u-Andro ;;seen nefario [22:21]
gribble nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [22:21]
boonies4u-Andro hmmm [22:21]
rdponticelli ;;echo nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 50 years, 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [22:22]
gribble nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 50 years, 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [22:22]
rdponticelli There [22:22]
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dub ^last seen [22:24]
matthewh3 I think if a I2p exchange popped up and used hybrid wallets like blockchain.info then users wouldn't have to worry about the OP's running off with all the coins. If an I2p exchange popped like the GLBSE, Cryptostocks or LTC-Global how could users trust them. I know The Silk Road as been operational for a while but it could just disappear anytime? [22:25]
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boonies4u-Andro killed buffer? [22:34]
boonies4u-Andro that's new to me [22:34]
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dub how bout nao [22:35]
boonies4u-Andro i know he could have put in any reason for quitting [22:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00031508 = 5.0098 BTC [-] [22:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62453 @ 0.000315 = 19.6727 BTC [-] [22:38]
boonies4u-Andro but "killed buffer" sounds like some kind of server message [22:38]
dub its not [22:39]
dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117009.0 [22:42]
dub brilliant move, say nothing to anyone except an illiterate 9 year old [22:42]
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boonies4u I just realized I was using the wrong name [22:44]
boonies4u silly me [22:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 9 @ 0.08179875 = 0.7362 BTC [+] [23:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00031333 = 8.8359 BTC [-] [23:51]
grubles !ticker s.dice [23:51]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00327011 / 0.00339995 (454373 shares, 1,485.85 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00333843 / 0.0034 (1700331 shares, 5,676.45 BTC) [23:51]
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