Forum logs for 07 Mar 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu << "slightly" :D [00:00]
assbot Logged on 06-03-2015 21:27:52; asciilifeform: i might exaggerate slightly, but at any rate it won't be accomplished by a fella with a day job. [00:00]
danielpbarron "On why your comment was removed? Well, you decided to do a slight snide remark and at the same time promote another site. If you had just said: qntra is worth a look. they are more into articles and commentary though. Then you comment would be still there." [00:07]
assbot ... ( ) [00:07]
mircea_popescu wassat ? [00:07]
danielpbarron a private thing between me and a moderator of "THE Bitcoin Community on Google+ since 2012" [00:09]
mircea_popescu lol ok. [00:09]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: wallowing with the eagles again, eh ? [00:09]
decimation danielpbarron: someone uses google+ besides poettering? [00:09]
danielpbarron i was surprised too, decimation [00:09]
mircea_popescu there was a fetlife "btc" fetish group [00:10]
mircea_popescu dead since... i dunno, 2013ish [00:10]
danielpbarron i barely use the thing and i have 1/5 the "views" of Ethereum's page [00:10]
decimation I came upon a google+ stat awhile ago in the logs: [00:11]
assbot Logged on 22-01-2015 04:54:20; decimation: lol " In other words, 0.2-0.3% of all G+ profiles, about 4-6 million users, have made public posts in 2015. " [00:11]
mircea_popescu i thought it was pretty much dead, goiung the way of te yahoo briefcase or w/e [00:12]
decimation ;;calc 0.003*6000000 [00:12]
gribble 18000 [00:12]
asciilifeform counting supposed users is pure spamatronics anyway [00:12]
danielpbarron if it's dead it's because mods like the one i talked to "remove posts and comments all the time and every single day." [00:12]
decimation well, if the numbers above are in the right ballpark, google+ has the population of a county seat in rural kansas [00:14]
mircea_popescu << lol. ironically, it is! [00:15]
assbot Logged on 06-03-2015 23:26:21; kakobrekla: its anal rape half way only [00:15]
mircea_popescu decimation i think you're doing it wrong. ~5mn made posts, of a total > 10bn profiles ? [00:15]
decimation possibly, I read it the other way [00:16]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: [00:16]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: [00:16]
decimation yeah upon re-reading the article you are right [00:16]
mircea_popescu it just doesn't make sense for g+ to only have a few mn profiles for all the resoureces they poured into it. [00:17]
decimation that's around the population of arizona [00:17]
mircea_popescu more's the point, even that watsapp spam outfit had 100mn active. [00:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00040661 = 1.6264 BTC [-] [00:18]
decimation yeah but that's a slightly different case right? in the sense that whatsapp enabled cross-platform communications? [00:18]
* decimation has never used whatsapp nor ever plans to [00:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2818 @ 0.00041098 = 1.1581 BTC [+] [00:21]
mircea_popescu it's mostly a thirld world thing i gather. [00:21]
* asciilifeform is just barely aware of what it was/is, and doesn't think he knows anyone who has seen much less used it [00:22]
decimation but if they are simply piping sms from one network to another, than their 'user count' has the same significance as that which the bum who owns brooklyn bridge can claim [00:22]
mircea_popescu it's an app. [00:23]
mircea_popescu their user count has as much significance as princess leia's ex boyfriend count. [00:23]
mircea_popescu not like anyone's marrying her anyway. [00:23]
mircea_popescu << arm is not actually "purpose built silicone". [00:23]
assbot Logged on 06-03-2015 23:47:26; asciilifeform: if you're selling it, having understood the above line of reasoning and can offer no meaningful counter - you are a scammer. [00:23]
decimation jabba the hut has a purpose for her [00:24]
mircea_popescu does he wear a hoodie ? [00:24]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: he specifically mentioned cryptoaccelerator modules [00:24]
mircea_popescu a [00:24]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: (these are often included as coprocessor 'cores' on conventional cpu) [00:24]
mircea_popescu and specifically disused by people serious about their crypto [00:25]
asciilifeform the chip found in 'pogo', incidentally, has a somewhat dusty one [00:25]
decimation asciilifeform: actually you could 'harden' a microcontroller against side channel attacks [00:25]
asciilifeform and yes specifically disused [00:25]
asciilifeform decimation: the manufacturer can claim to harden against attack. can even do so, to an extent. you - buyer - have no way to distinguish; not to learn what else is - or is not - inside [00:26]
asciilifeform i seriously didn't imagine this being such a hard concept for folks to grasp [00:26]
decimation asciilifeform: aye. nor could any amount of 'crypto module software' help [00:26]
mircea_popescu lol alf giving airgapped guy an incredibly hard time [00:26]
mircea_popescu << cuz someone pays him toi. [00:27]
assbot Logged on 06-03-2015 23:55:48; asciilifeform: airgapped: let's take your word. why, then, do you spend your days working on a problem to which the answer cannot exist ? [00:27]
mircea_popescu i know people who try to write novels. another problem for which the solution can not exist. [00:27]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i've no idea who he is, but he fit my expected pattern for the inevitably next mr yetmoarspam far too well [00:27]
mircea_popescu you gotta learn to behead people after rather than before, you nut you. [00:27]
mircea_popescu give love a chance! [00:28]
asciilifeform if fella's any good he'll snap that head back on & rejoin [00:28]
mircea_popescu if he's any bad, also. [00:28]
asciilifeform lol [00:28]
asciilifeform probably. [00:28]
mircea_popescu why then doi you claim to solve a problem through a process through which no solution could be had! [00:28]
asciilifeform hm? [00:29]
mircea_popescu explicitly : what is the difference between him making secure crypto arms and you cutting random heads ? [00:29]
asciilifeform wouldn't dream of trying to solve the particular problem in that thread [00:29]
asciilifeform poor fella arrived just as i was thinking of attempting essay re: specificity-of-diddling [00:30]
asciilifeform and ended up it [00:30]
mircea_popescu lol. [00:30]
mircea_popescu happens. [00:30]
asciilifeform << beginning of thread [00:30]
assbot Logged on 06-03-2015 23:41:18; asciilifeform: it is absolutely essential, to understand what is being spoken of here, to go back to the thread about the specificity of hardware-diddling. [00:30]
asciilifeform to borrow mircea_popescu's terminology, buying a dedicated, e.g., rsa silicon, communicates information to enemy which he has no business learning [00:31]
asciilifeform regarding your intentions to compute rsa funktion [00:31]
mircea_popescu << this is sadly such sop, i doubt most derps even register there's anything wrong with it., [00:31]
assbot Logged on 07-03-2015 00:01:46; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and deliberately pseudo-open architecture (runs linux, sure, but with massive closed blobs required even to boot. and vendor regularly pays media mouthpieces to lie about it; also posts astroturfed comments) [00:31]
asciilifeform 'raspberry' is egregious and famously so even among the other horrors [00:31]
asciilifeform in, for example, the fact that the 'blob' does not merely initialize the hardware, but actually runs at all times on its own coprocessor [00:32]
decimation asciilifeform: would you ever voluntarily use a broadcom chip for anything? [00:32]
decimation asciilifeform: that's sop in every smartphone that exists [00:32]
decimation can't even examine the blob [00:32]
asciilifeform decimation: can't say that i would [00:33]
asciilifeform 'from cause rather than from principle' [00:34]
asciilifeform folks ask me questions like this in meatspace and i end up explaining that no, i do not necessarily know of a specific sin for that specific part number [00:34]
asciilifeform but 'fruit of poison tree' [00:35]
asciilifeform *rather than purpose [00:35]
asciilifeform damnit [00:35]
asciilifeform cause rather than purpose. [00:35]
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decimation yeah I get your point [00:37]
asciilifeform now, i happen to have a large collection of hard (and soft) ware that i consider questionable. but it is kept around specifically for abusive experimentation rather than 'use' in the usual sense. [00:37]
decimation hopefully one day you will be able to buy your matrix of logic cells from costco to feed into your Mr Fuser [00:38]
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* asciilifeform wishes he could name someone other than himself who is working on this problem, but cannot [00:38]
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decimation so prevailing 30 year fixed mortgage rates went from 3.5 to 4.0 in about 2 weeks [00:39]
mircea_popescu clearly desperate bid to reign in inflation [00:40]
decimation and 10 year treasuries went from %2.1 to %2.25 just today [00:40]
mircea_popescu by now every fucking wikipedia entry containing a sum of dollars has to have a "x in 2013 dollars" affixed. [00:40]
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decimation all this is because usg released a report that said that 30k more people 'have jobs' and wages were flat [00:40]
mircea_popescu no, all this because they're not stupid, and would like to not hang. [00:41]
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decimation which doesn't mean shit for actual economics but means alot for the magic fed decision meter [00:41]
mircea_popescu i'm so curious if next mulatoo in chief actually finds a volcker v2.0 [00:41]
* asciilifeform wonders what the rate would have to be to cut off the chump flow [00:42]
asciilifeform 100% ? [00:42]
asciilifeform 1000? [00:42]
decimation the problem is, if you raise rates to the 18% per annum that real estate prices in new york imply, you quickly find that usg is paying all its tax to debtors [00:43]
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mircea_popescu nah, my guess atm is 32. [00:44]
mircea_popescu !up ponzi [00:44]
-assbot- You voiced ponzi for 30 minutes. [00:44]
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ponzi ;;seen wences [00:44]
gribble wences was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 37 weeks, 6 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: mircea, are you here? [00:44]
mircea_popescu but as a theoretical, probably impractical solution. otherwise, 1-2% hikes each quarter for the next 3-5 years would be what a sane cb would do [00:44]
mircea_popescu decimation you don;t mega hike it, you put it on a pain plan. [00:45]
cazalla mircea_popescu> thing works fine. <<< i have started to do this [00:46]
mircea_popescu good. [00:46]
asciilifeform ideally the mirror would be a genuine #b-a-affiliated box, no ? [00:47]
asciilifeform would suck to lose all the mirrored pages in one shot if is taken out [00:48]
mircea_popescu well... yes. [00:48]
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mircea_popescu nothing beats a local copy, obviously [00:48]
mircea_popescu really important stuff can also be deedbot-'d [00:49]
cazalla well provides a download of the archive it makes as well [00:49]
cazalla (and yes i know that this cannot be 100% trusted) [00:50]
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mircea_popescu it makes a nice jpg of the page that can be downloaded. [00:50]
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decimation what's a 'pain plan'? [00:51]
decimation pay the little people 0% when inflation is well above 10%? [00:51]
mircea_popescu when you tell the slavegirl "today, you X this much, and tomorrow X+k, and so forth each day X+nk" [00:51]
mircea_popescu "the only thing you know for sure is that tomorrow's going to be worse" = pain plan [00:52]
mircea_popescu pretty much every good computer game ever. [00:52]
decimation heh yeah [00:53]
decimation not only will usg be paying all of its tax revenue to debtors, the fed's $4.5 trillion worth of 3% mortgages won't look so good [00:55]
mircea_popescu yeah well. [00:58]
mircea_popescu i'm not a miracle worker, i'm a butcher. i don't revive dead cows, i just cut them apart. [00:58]
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decimation ;;calc 18000000000*0.2 [01:03]
gribble 3600000000 [01:03]
decimation so at 20% rate, usg pays $3.6 trillion in interest per year. current annual tax revenue is $3.1 trillion [01:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 31 @ 0.0341 = 1.0571 BTC [-] [01:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8478 @ 0.00042348 = 3.5903 BTC [+] {2} [01:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00042457 = 3.1843 BTC [+] [01:15]
decimation heh EUR/USD fell to $1.08 from $1.10 [01:21]
asciilifeform now kakobrekla can buy pogo! [01:21]
asciilifeform lol [01:21]
decimation asciilifeform: now's the time to import euro strange I guess [01:27]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell decimation short explanation as to why exactly it can no longer be fixed. [01:37]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9999 @ 0.00042457 = 4.2453 BTC [+] [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00042457 = 2.5899 BTC [+] [01:48]
mircea_popescu digging up to see which the fuck earl of somerset was pete talking about (i thought that's a duchy), it turns out there's two different 1st earls of somerset : John Beaufort (Gaunt's son, in 1300s) and Robert Carr, in the 1500s. [01:49]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: ;) [01:54]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly : the middle german term for a tournament is... butthurt. [01:55]
mircea_popescu bouhourt in french. [01:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00042457 = 1.8257 BTC [+] [02:10]
thestringpuller !up Vexual [02:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00042574 = 2.4906 BTC [+] {2} [02:18]
Vexual why never anyone ups me until i am three sheets? [02:21]
Vexual ok so we've got a thing about a cat with good quality management teq [02:23]
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Vexual weve done poisionous snkes lately tho [02:24]
Vexual 8 point, what is this.. [02:25]
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Vexual well, i had this cat wot had 5v kittens [02:30]
Vexual one died, presumable of snakebit, and the next day it shooed every other to other places [02:31]
Vexual it stopped eating fish and dissappeared, [02:31]
Vexual it was eating taipans, and i found them about the house missing the tasty parts, then it really dissappeared but remerged from under a junk pile with 3 new kittens [02:32]
Vexual they were the same color but better [02:32]
Vexual 2 left and one stayed, and the mother also turned into a footstool, again, presumably snakebite [02:33]
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Vexual aint life grand [02:36]
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Vexual [02:46]
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asciilifeform !up Vexual [02:48]
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Vexual ;;seen xinxi [02:54]
gribble xinxi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 weeks, 6 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: no one is here? [02:54]
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Vexual working on the hutter prize? [02:58]
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Vexual ^theres some more constraints for your perpect laptop alf [03:01]
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Vexual if you give a fuck i imagine it makes things real easy [03:03]
asciilifeform wai wat [03:06]
Vexual my ai prefers wrongness [03:06]
Vexual well like your classic laptop is to classic cars, you can do a time test, running your own software [03:07]
Vexual and one russiian always wins [03:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00041473 = 2.4054 BTC [-] [03:08]
Vexual hed have b-a logs on a knuckle tattoo [03:09]
* asciilifeform doesn't know even what kind of dope he ought to take in order to understand any of the above [03:09]
cazalla what ya drinking this evening Vexual ? [03:09]
Vexual beer, ive gotta drive later [03:09]
Vexual as people prefer outcomes these days [03:13]
Vexual *ai [03:13]
Vexual maybe a taxi then [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00041314 = 2.768 BTC [-] {2} [03:15]
cazalla yeah sounds an idea unless you've only had a few [03:15]
Vexual yes [03:16]
cazalla i'm drinking some bundy, meant to drink last night but sidetracked with that orlov article and then zzz [03:16]
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cazalla !up Vexual [03:18]
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cazalla drinking this [03:18]
assbot Bundaberg Master Distillers Collection Small Batch Rum 700mL | Dan Murphy's | Buy Wine, Champagne, Beer & Spirits Online ... ( ) [03:18]
asciilifeform !up Vexual [03:18]
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Vexual brb [03:18]
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cazalla those master distiller's batches they put out over the years have been hit and miss [03:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5751 @ 0.00042311 = 2.4333 BTC [+] [03:28]
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mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1 [04:09]
-assbot- You voiced indiancandy1 for 30 minutes. [04:09]
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cazalla bah soz vexual, was eating muh dinner [04:14]
mircea_popescu heh gotta love the "usg could do shit" muppetry on qntra. [04:14]
cazalla i wonder if guy commentating as Jorge Stolfi is Jorge Stolfi [04:16]
mircea_popescu not like being jorge stolfi is that valuable. [04:17]
indiancandy1 hiii [04:17]
mircea_popescu who's he again, some random fiat-pushing etatist muppet from brazil ? [04:17]
cazalla mircea_popescu, i wouldn't know either way, just saw a wikipedia page!! after googling [04:17]
mircea_popescu that's good prima facie evidence of nobodyness. [04:18]
mircea_popescu << lawl. [04:19]
assbot Talk:Jorge Stolfi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [04:19]
mircea_popescu A Wikipedia contributor, Jorge Stolfi (talk · contribs), may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant guidelines include Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Autobiography, and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. [04:19]
mircea_popescu random etatist muppet from brazil is really a wikipediot first class, too. will wonders never cease. [04:21]
mircea_popescu for illustrative purposes, [04:22]
assbot ... ( ) [04:23]
mircea_popescu the blondy's name is stolfi. [04:23]
cazalla looks like a calypso (iceblock from 80s) [04:24]
cazalla danielpbarron, who is avatar x? steph? [04:29]
cazalla mircea_popescu: there was a fetlife "btc" fetish group <<< buttcoin? at least it'd be a fitting name [04:31]
mircea_popescu lol nope [04:32]
cazalla had a few too many drinks so.. [04:32]
indiancandy1 grr [04:35]
indiancandy1 wassup yp [04:35]
indiancandy1 you guya [04:35]
indiancandy1 guys************** [04:35]
cazalla you cam whoring yet indiancandy1 ? [04:36]
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indiancandy1 lol [04:37]
indiancandy1 what [04:37]
cazalla clock's ticking [04:37]
mircea_popescu lol [04:38]
mircea_popescu how's the film biz ? [04:38]
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-assbot- You voiced indiancandy1 for 30 minutes. [04:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0004255 = 2.2552 BTC [+] {3} [04:41]
indiancandy1 its shit [04:42]
indiancandy1 u no anything about internet marketing] [04:42]
cazalla sex sells! [04:44]
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mircea_popescu indiancandy1 everyone thinks they do. [04:45]
indiancandy1 lol [04:47]
indiancandy1 no [04:47]
indiancandy1 man be seriose please [04:47]
mircea_popescu i am. [04:48]
fluffypony NIGGA BE SERIOSE. PLEASE. [04:48]
mircea_popescu internet marketing. [04:54]
assbot ... ( ) [04:54]
indiancandy1 mp u pervert [04:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2658 @ 0.00042228 = 1.1224 BTC [+] [12:27]
mircea_popescu << sounds pretty painful. [12:28]
assbot Logged on 07-03-2015 13:34:15; nubbins`: also [12:28]
nubbins` he's using livejournal, obv masoch [12:29]
nubbins` but yeah, 2nd sentence, "I learned some unstated rules about..." [12:30]
mircea_popescu indeed. [12:30]
mircea_popescu on both scores. [12:30]
mircea_popescu << who do you count there ? broadcom ? [12:30]
assbot Logged on 07-03-2015 13:43:26; asciilifeform: nubbins`: and the vendor is an known, egregious, and unrepentant liar, intent on giving an impression of 'open' for some strange reason [12:30]
mircea_popescu the eben upton broadcom response to rhel's poettering ? [12:30]
nubbins` so, i'm sure we all know why debian is called debian [12:31]
nubbins` i'm researching some soy-based industrial cleaning products from a company called franmar [12:32]
nubbins` owned by -- you guessed it -- a frank and a marilyn [12:32]
mircea_popescu nubbins` because that's the first thin through murdock's mind ? [12:32]
PeterL RE gyrojet: one thing that sped failure was 13 mm caliber, which exceeded the 12mm size limit, so needed extra note from stalin [12:32]
PeterL it would be interesting to see something a bit larger tried with grenade shell [12:33]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: broadcom. but also the apologists (many of whom, i gather, weren't even -paid- shills, but merely fools) [12:35]
mircea_popescu well, it tried for the entire "being apple" marketing thing. [12:35]
mircea_popescu no steve, so not the same results, but it does show there exists this partiuclar herd of cattle in the wild, ready for a milking [12:36]
mircea_popescu PeterL you mean fired from grenade launcher ? [12:36]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i kinda followed the whole thing; even bought - back when it was not clear what it was - the device (1st ed. 'raspberry') [12:37]
PeterL yeah, sort of a small grenade launcher combining some attributes of gyrojet [12:37]
asciilifeform (still have it, and the camera option. mostly gathers dust.) [12:37]
mircea_popescu afaik there's only one size grenade launcher. [12:37]
PeterL I guess if you scale up any more you get RPG [12:37]
* PeterL knows little about current tech in grenade launcers [12:38]
asciilifeform ^ afaik those haven't really changed since ww2 [12:38]
mircea_popescu actually you get the muchly admired panzerhaubitze 2000 [12:38]
mircea_popescu <<< in other news, jack black is a talented fuck. [12:39]
assbot High Fidelity - Jack Black - Let's Get It On - YouTube ... ( ) [12:39]
PeterL so my question is if they would be improved by adding gyrojet-type propulsion? [12:39]
mircea_popescu "Broadcom Corporation is an American fabless semiconductor company in the wireless and broadband communication business." [12:39]
asciilifeform PeterL: different animal, really - rocket vs shell [12:40]
mircea_popescu "Obama is an American educationless Stanford graduate in the politics and constitutional amendments business" [12:40]
mircea_popescu "H R Clinton is a American penisless disk jockey in the porn and sexy business" [12:41]
mircea_popescu gotta love tardspedia. [12:41]
nubbins` so franmar's cleaning products are all based on methyl soyate [12:45]
nubbins` which means that i can get a goddamn /haze remover/ that's drain-safe :0 [12:45]
PeterL yesterday I was driving through Western Michigan, saw a house with a big Confederate flag in the front yard. was like WTF? [12:45]
mircea_popescu speaking of heavy howitzers : a move reminescent of the dumping of the warthog is the army cancellation of crusader paladin upgrade / any nlsc weapon at all. leaving the paladin, a 1960s make, as the pretty much only us howitzer for the rest of history. [12:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9799 @ 0.00041272 = 4.0442 BTC [-] {2} [12:47]
mircea_popescu that the russians are beating them at air tech is painful but perhaps unavoidable - kennedy's spur failed to outlast kennedy. [12:47]
mircea_popescu but that the germans are beating them over artillery ?! cmon. [12:47]
asciilifeform the actual selection criteria for u.s. weapons systems funding are not a secret... [12:48]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i thought that thing was toxic. [12:48]
PeterL US verison of "austerity" is to cut the most useful platforms, trying to scare politicians into giving more funding? [12:48]
nubbins` mircea_popescu apparently way, way less toxic than traditional haze removers: lye and bleach [12:49]
mircea_popescu PeterL i dunno, but the parallels with 1935 england are striking. [12:49]
nubbins` mircea_popescu also biodegradable fwiw [12:49]
mircea_popescu nubbins` now this all depends. lye and bleach ARE biodegradable. [12:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00041109 = 1.5827 BTC [-] [12:49]
mircea_popescu whether this thing degrades or accumulates... [12:49]
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nubbins` hmm fair [12:49]
nubbins` Methyl soyate has a high solvency with a Kauri-butanol (KB) value of 58 and has low toxicity when compared to other common substances. In comparison to most commercial solvents, methyl soyate is safer to handle and store due to its high flashpoint of approximately 360 degrees Fahrenheit and high boiling point of well over 400 degrees Fahrenheit. In addition, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) does not list methyl soyate as an [12:50]
nubbins` ozone-depleting chemical (ODC), hazardous air pollutant or volatile organic compound. Methyl soyate�s slow evaporation time can be seen as a disadvantage, but in certain applications methyl soyate outperforms other traditional solvents when longer settle times are needed. [12:50]
mircea_popescu [12:50]
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nubbins` (information provided by the United Soybean Board!) [12:51]
mircea_popescu lol [12:51]
asciilifeform when biodiesel is finally boiled from lusers, [12:51]
asciilifeform will it be sold as 'methyl luserate' ? [12:51]
mircea_popescu no, i get it, there's this soy lobby. nevertheless... [12:51]
mircea_popescu anyone recall the florida orange lobby push for "use orange peels in cleanning products" ? [12:51]
asciilifeform methyl redditate [12:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform why not ethyl ? [12:52]
mircea_popescu make an old bingo happy. [12:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what a crock o'shit that was! still sometimes comes with heatsinks as 'degreaser' [12:52]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform shut up you unpatriotic bastard you! [12:52]
nubbins` heh [12:52]
mircea_popescu IT WAS FOR THE ECONOMY [12:52]
nubbins` citrus cleaners are still available [12:52]
nubbins` you find em at outdoorsy stores sometimes [12:52]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i guess they weren't terribad. but still, the push is the lulz. [12:53]
nubbins` nod [12:53]
nubbins` FWIW i've used these methyl soyate products before [12:53]
nubbins` and they're actually fucking *nuts*. [12:53]
nubbins` like, nothing compares. [12:53]
mircea_popescu "and im happy to report no flying frogs trying to get into the house yet, so there is that." [12:53]
nubbins` nod, they just hover outside the windows 8) [12:54]
mircea_popescu "making squealing sounds like my ex wife, trying to get me to go out" [12:54]
mircea_popescu "but i know better than that, after what happened to little timmy next door." [12:54]
PeterL one project I worked at last job on was making a "cleaner" from glycerol (which is a big side product from biodiesel production) [12:55]
mircea_popescu ;;google carbon tetrasulphide [12:55]
gribble Carbon disulfide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; carbon disulfide (CS2) | chemical compound | Encyclopedia Britannica: ; Carbon disulphide: [12:55]
mircea_popescu ^ i used to handle that as a teen! [12:56]
nubbins` most of what i know about chemistry comes from screenprinting [12:56]
nubbins` phun phact, sodium metaperiodite breaks dichromate bonds [12:56]
nubbins` or in layman's terms, emulsion remover removes emulsion ;p [12:56]
mircea_popescu lol [12:57]
PeterL nubbins`: FWIW i've used these methyl soyate products before << used as solvent? [12:57]
nubbins` yeah [12:57]
mircea_popescu nah, he does whippets [12:57]
nubbins` they fucking *cancel* plastisol inks [12:57]
mircea_popescu with a wide variety of compounds [12:57]
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nubbins` i actually did a couple whippets last month for the first time since uni [12:58]
nubbins` 10/10 would not do again [12:58]
mircea_popescu prolly cause they changed the laughing gas for tear gas meanwhile. [12:58]
mircea_popescu cheaper per ton. [12:58]
nubbins` probs [12:58]
nubbins` besides, not like i'd know the diff [12:58]
* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [12:58]
pete_dushenski gooood morning! [12:59]
mircea_popescu anyway, let it be pointed out that kb 50ish is not really high or anything. [12:59]
PeterL didn't we decide propane would be a good substitute gas for the whipped stuff? [12:59]
asciilifeform 'a smell of petroleum prevails throughout' (TM) [12:59]
mircea_popescu naphtaromatics are what, 500 ? [12:59]
nubbins` PeterL propane is used as a propellant in food products [13:00]
mircea_popescu PeterL either that or fairy farts, i don't remember. that whole day's a haze. [13:00]
nubbins` mircea_popescu try some haze remover [13:00]
nubbins` it's made from soy [13:00]
nubbins` XD [13:00]
mircea_popescu there's hazardous chemicals, and then there's hazearduous chemicals. [13:00]
nubbins` yeah [13:00]
mircea_popescu how goes petey. [13:01]
asciilifeform [13:01]
nubbins` haze remover was traditionally the most caustic thing in the shop [13:01]
assbot Secret of the Universe: A Strong Smell of Turpentine Prevails Throughout | Quote Investigator ... ( ) [13:01]
pete_dushenski quite nicely mp! [13:01]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know as a kid i used to go to a school whose wooden floorings were turpentined each week ? [13:01]
nubbins` incidentally not all solvents are created equal for these jobs [13:01]
pete_dushenski << lulzy president continues to lulz [13:01]
mircea_popescu positively loved the smell. [13:01]
assbot Between Two Ferns with Zach Galifianakis: President Barack Obama - YouTube ... ( ) [13:01]
nubbins` mineral spirits, for example. terrible ink remover. [13:01]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: betcha love greek wine too [13:02]
nubbins` causes the resin particles to swell [13:02]
pete_dushenski two cents say 'sneezing baby panda' runs on the gop ticket against hillary [13:02]
asciilifeform drinking turpentine was good enough for socrates.. [13:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform wait wut ?! [13:02]
asciilifeform ritsina [13:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00042228 = 9.079 BTC [+] [13:02]
mircea_popescu the greek word for hemlock was translated by the amjew word for turpentine ?! [13:02]
asciilifeform nono [13:02]
asciilifeform the turpentine from the casks [13:03]
mircea_popescu it's damned pine resin you noob! if you can't tell pine from turpentine you've really no business sniffing aromatics! [13:03]
mircea_popescu go back to girls! [13:03]
asciilifeform pine resin << and turpentine's waht [13:04]
mircea_popescu the distillate from corpses of old lawyers and schoolmasters. [13:04]
nubbins` resin-based booze 8) [13:04]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i thought that was benedictine, lol [13:04]
PeterL pete_dushenski: two cents say 'sneezing baby panda' runs on the gop ticket against hillary << are you referring to one of the politicians, or an actual panda? [13:05]
mircea_popescu anyway. a) they're mostly using "syntetic" turpentine, which is an oil product ; b) ;;google pistacia terebinthus [13:05]
pete_dushenski PeterL: [13:05]
assbot The Sneezing Baby Panda - YouTube ... ( ) [13:05]
pete_dushenski other potential gop candidates: purple rain, 'leave britni alone', wayahee guy [13:06]
mircea_popescu urmom ? [13:07]
pete_dushenski basically, all these doods : [13:07]
assbot South Park - Youtube Parodies - YouTube ... ( ) [13:07]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: she's not much for politics ;) [13:07]
nubbins` wow, this ink remover is actually marketed as a /mastic/ remover [13:08]
pete_dushenski s/purple rain/chocolate rain [13:08]
pete_dushenski purple rain was prince... [13:08]
nubbins` ^ [13:09]
mircea_popescu arabic gum ? so ? [13:09]
nubbins` i'd vote for prince [13:09]
nubbins` "will effectively remove white and yellow mastic and even black asbestos mastic for as low as $.11 per square foot with absolutely no odor and minimal efforts" [13:09]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: if you could vote for any american candidate, sure. [13:09]
nubbins` yeah, this is all hypothetical [13:09]
mircea_popescu fun fact : the island of chios, named Sakız Adası in turkish, is what led to romanian calling it sachiz. [13:10]
nubbins` the mastic island! [13:10]
mircea_popescu mhm [13:11]
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nubbins` i can only assume this shares a root with the verb "masticate" [13:12]
mircea_popescu it does, as it's how it was used. [13:12]
mircea_popescu apparently incredibly loved in the harems, which hadn't yet met the yanks (who had not yet met buffett) so there was no wrigley's. [13:13]
pete_dushenski << now if only cad would stop getting pounded by chf [13:13]
assbot Logged on 07-03-2015 04:17:02; decimation: heh EUR/USD fell to $1.08 from $1.10 [13:13]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: how do you feel about this new canadian exchange? [13:14]
pete_dushenski why do i care about chf-cad ? planning a trip there for may upcoming! [13:14]
thestringpuller My google and youtube is littered with ads from them. [13:14]
thestringpuller Smells like neo-bee almost. [13:14]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: um quardriga ? [13:14]
thestringpuller yessir [13:14]
pete_dushenski they're not particularly new [13:14]
nubbins` ^ [13:14]
nubbins` <--won't sign up [13:14]
pete_dushenski but yes, i've also seen their ads splashed absolutely everywhere [13:14]
thestringpuller why are they generating so much press right now? (other than the "publicly traded") [13:14]
nubbins` thestringpuller only remaining canadian exchange [13:14]
asciilifeform apparently incredibly loved in the harems << amplified the lulz from remembering that the first (and until moving to usa, only) gum i ever chewed on was turkish [13:15]
pete_dushenski because now some derps in vancouver want to 'get on the bitcoin train' [13:15]
pete_dushenski and think that this is a reasonable way: advertising! investing! exchanges! [13:15]
mircea_popescu << can't get boys into tech without getting the girls into nudity. [13:15]
assbot Logged on 07-03-2015 13:53:13; nubbins`: and if there's one thing necessary to bringing STEM education to third-world classrooms... [13:15]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i recall reading that you had it too - the one with the racecar photos [13:15]
asciilifeform 'turbo' (there were others, i think) [13:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform defo. [13:16]
mircea_popescu turbo was for kids tho, we had the one before that. with fake money. [13:16]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: sorta my (and i'm sure many other's here) youth [13:16]
pete_dushenski tech was the gateway to girly pics [13:16]
pete_dushenski *others, not other's [13:17]
pete_dushenski or maybe others' [13:17]
mircea_popescu << what in the Heaven Of Shit's name is this! [13:17]
assbot The Web Robots Pages ... ( ) [13:17]
mircea_popescu The wild ferret web hopper's are designed as specific agents to retrieve data from all available sources on the internet. They work in an onion format hopping from spot to spot one level at a time over the internet. The information is gathered into different relational databases, known as "Hazel's Horde". [13:17]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: either way, they seem to be reasonably reliable [13:17]
mircea_popescu known as "we're well the fuck confused, and what are these word things again ? ooo... shiny!" [13:18]
pete_dushenski quardriga hasn't done anything exceptionally derpy to my knowledge [13:18]
pete_dushenski and i would've heard about it. [13:18]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski at least it's not called bitquacoin. [13:18]
nubbins` -cad seems ambivalent [13:18]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: "reasonably reliable" sounds like drug dealer who shows up 5 hours late, but still doesn't short you. [13:20]
pete_dushenski lol i think they're better than that. a broker i've done a few deals with swears by gerald's business [13:21]
pete_dushenski gerald cotton, ceo [13:21]
pete_dushenski ;;ticker [13:22]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 273.72, Best ask: 273.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 273.65, 24 hour volume: 19983.55257685, 24 hour low: 270.55, 24 hour high: 276.93, 24 hour vwap: None [13:22]
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nubbins` pete_dushenski i'm just not interested in providing a scan of my passport/drivers license [13:26]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: you've got a local broker then ? or -otc ? [13:27]
pete_dushenski not saying i am either, frankly [13:27]
pete_dushenski interested in kyc, that is [13:27]
nubbins` pete_dushenski i generally do not buy/sell btc [13:30]
nubbins` on the rare occasions that i need to, -otc [13:30]
pete_dushenski ya so you *really* have no interest in quadriga :) [13:33]
nubbins` :D [13:34]
pete_dushenski i don't have a ton of personal interest either, just the least stinky poo, i guess. [13:34]
* pete_dushenski doesn't eat poo [13:34]
nubbins` i'm fascinated that they let you deposit and withdraw physical gold [13:34]
pete_dushenski and they 'verify' accounts in, like, an hour [13:34]
nubbins` o [13:35]
pete_dushenski whereas cavirtex was... weeks ? [13:35]
nubbins` fuck cavirtex for 4 or 5 reasons [13:35]
pete_dushenski with a spikey stick [13:35]
nubbins` fuck vaultofsatoshi because they dealt in fuckin doge [13:35]
pete_dushenski lol [13:35]
pete_dushenski i suppose that relative to doge, gold seems like way less of a scam [13:36]
nubbins` "but we're serious biznismen, promise" [13:36]
pete_dushenski from toronto! [13:36]
nubbins` where important men do important things! [13:36]
pete_dushenski home of all the bizniz! [13:36]
nubbins` and etobicokeans! [13:36]
nubbins` [13:38]
assbot Quadriga Coin Exchange | Trade ... ( ) [13:38]
pete_dushenski lol my bro lives in etobicoke at the moment [13:38]
nubbins` tell him to stop voting Ford? [13:38]
pete_dushenski lol i tried... [13:39]
nubbins` [13:39]
assbot ... ( ) [13:39]
nubbins` can someone please explain to me why this is an issue? [13:39]
nubbins` "massive panic as government needs to change value of magic number that means nothing" [13:40]
asciilifeform nubbins`: ceremonial [13:41]
asciilifeform << another l0l [13:41]
assbot ... ( ) [13:41]
pete_dushenski phreak attacks. [13:44]
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thestringpuller oh are we talking about debt celining again? [14:09]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: more ritualistic than ceremonial imo [14:09]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: was thinking about you last night as we were messing with high amp electronics in the car. [14:09]
thestringpuller we were drunk as fuck and I immediately though, "would alf approve?" to see whether or not the procedure we were undertaking would kill us [14:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00040898 = 4.1102 BTC [-] {2} [14:11]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: just what was it you were doing? [14:12]
thestringpuller fucking around with batteries in the not good way [14:13]
thestringpuller i eventually had the thought, "Yea ALF would frown on this, lets die another day shall we?" [14:13]
asciilifeform thestringpuller was sticking tongue in the smoke socket or what [14:15]
thestringpuller ^pretty much [14:15]
asciilifeform lol [14:16]
thestringpuller don't have multimeter? use tongue instead. [14:17]
thestringpuller if death occurs prob > 1 amp [14:17]
thestringpuller precision may very [14:17]
thestringpuller vary* [14:17]
nubbins` good news! my browser appears to be safe from the security bug i just found out about [14:19]
* nubbins` shrugs [14:20]
thestringpuller nubbins`: what's the bad news? [14:21]
nubbins` ...i can't afford another macbook when this one dies? [14:21]
* nubbins` shrugs again [14:21]
asciilifeform nubbins`: this isn't even it [14:23]
asciilifeform nubbins`: there -aren't- any more actual macbooks (in, e.g., the 2010 sense) to be had [14:24]
asciilifeform and never will be again [14:24]
asciilifeform instead you can buy a 'macbook' where the lcd fractures spontaneously. and/or one where the gpu melts [14:24]
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asciilifeform or you can just mail apple a box of benjies and skip the suffering [14:24]
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kakobrekla [14:26]
assbot uTorrent accused of bundling cryptocurrency malware with popular BitTorrent client | ExtremeTech ... ( ) [14:26]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: we did that one yesterday [14:26]
kakobrekla ah. [14:26]
* kakobrekla guilty [14:27]
asciilifeform although [14:27]
asciilifeform 'As for the chosen programs, both of Epic Scale’s choices are Y-Combinator darlings, but one of them, the HIV vaccine immunity project, has been heavily criticized by scientists for having no actual scientists involved and for pursuing debunked methods of vaccine research.' << is a new l0l [14:27]
asciilifeform anyone care to dig up the details ? [14:27]
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adlai asciilifeform: all i know is an HN headline which i didn't bother opening: "[yc company] (YC '15) finds cures for diseases which don't yet exist" [14:28]
adlai (some mysteries are best left mysterious) [14:28]
kakobrekla O_o [14:29]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 111 @ 0.03697918 = 4.1047 BTC [+] {4} [14:30]
kakobrekla > I saw the Add/Remove option in the usual place. The installer, it must be noted, is completely broken and uninstalls essentially nothing — but broken uninstallers, in and of themselves, are not crimes. [14:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7590 @ 0.00042343 = 3.2138 BTC [+] {2} [14:31]
kakobrekla myea, too bad about that. [14:31]
adlai eh, i'd say that broken uninstallers are 'crimes' at the same level as running a rigged shell game on a touristy broadwalk [14:32]
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adlai the marks deserve what they get, but i wouldn't want my daughter marrying the dealer [14:32]
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pete_dushenski ;;bc,stats [14:55]
gribble Current Blocks: 346590 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 161 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 4 hours, 12 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47182125267.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.0662 [14:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00042584 = 2.3847 BTC [+] [15:01]
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ben_vulpes asciilifeform has yet to discover "extended care" apparently. [15:06]
ben_vulpes proverbial "box of benjies". [15:06]
ben_vulpes has this magical effect of guaranteeing hardware performance for 3 years. [15:07]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: didn't work for my 2 chums [15:09]
asciilifeform their machines were -new- [15:09]
asciilifeform and apple wouldn't take them back [15:09]
asciilifeform 'it was something you did' [15:09]
ben_vulpes it's because you live in the Forbidden City. [15:10]
ben_vulpes nobody likes that part of the country. [15:10]
asciilifeform apples stores everywhere [15:10]
ben_vulpes apple ships you people all the 'B' grade hardware. [15:10]
asciilifeform packed like trains. [15:10]
ben_vulpes they also know exactly how quality each device is. [15:11]
ben_vulpes east coast gets the bum hardware. [15:11]
ben_vulpes call cali: "oop, sorry. we don't like your kind." [15:11]
ben_vulpes "why are you using macintoshes anyways - don't you get government stipends to buy the 10k windows laptops?" [15:11]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: only the pentagon does [15:13]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: if you're thinking of 'toughbook' and similar, these aren't normally found among 'desk pilots' [15:14]
ben_vulpes nah, the pentagon can barely intercept mail to Fat Kim that has "TOP SEKKREIT PLZ NO BULLY" written all over it [15:14]
asciilifeform (if you want to see one, peek into a police car. for some reason the laptop permanently bolted in place there is inevitably a 'tougbook') [15:14]
pete_dushenski i've even seen the derps in the photo radar trucks using toughbooks around here [15:15]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: seen, entirely in character for bezzleprocurement. [15:15]
ben_vulpes anyways, feds can't pull their heads out of their arses. apple, otoh, targets you and yours specifically for pain. [15:15]
ben_vulpes "lizard steve". [15:16]
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pete_dushenski ^actual photo [15:16]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: 'for your convenience we have packaged the defective transistors separately' ? (famous) [15:17]
asciilifeform (jp reply to an american co. which requested, some time in the '70s, a crate of transistors with the 'usual x% defectives') [15:17]
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asciilifeform << 'CloudFront attempted to establish a connection with the origin, but either the attempt failed or the origin closed the connection. ' >> ??!?! [16:41]
assbot ... ( ) [16:41]
asciilifeform jurov ^^^^^^^^ ?! [16:42]
asciilifeform mod6? [16:42]
ben_vulpes mailman is jurov's beast. [16:43]
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mircea_popescu lol i think they're better than that. a broker i've done a few deals with swears by << it'd help if he were in wot [16:55]
mircea_popescu can someone please explain to me why this is an issue? << because for as long as this is a pretend-issue, they can continue to pretend-ignore the various actual issues. [16:57]
mircea_popescu i love how "asap", originally a meek "whenver you have a moment" has meanwhile mutated in usenglish to OMFG RIGHT NOW EMERGENCI [16:57]
danielpbarron i actually had a pallet take up precious needed space for longer than expected due to the stupid government shutdown [17:02]
mircea_popescu nah, the pentagon can barely intercept mail to Fat Kim that has "TOP SEKKREIT PLZ NO BULLY" written all over it << bwahahaha [17:02]
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mircea_popescu cloud wut !? [17:03]
mircea_popescu "What if the federal government handed you a check for $1,000? Would that go to that new pair of shoes you've had your eye on? Dinner for the family? Credit card bills? The possibilities are endless." [17:05]
mircea_popescu dude cnn sure makes the us sound like east africa. [17:05]
mircea_popescu srsly, shoes and food, or else debt ? [17:05]
mircea_popescu << worth reading for the sheer moronity embedded. [17:06]
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mircea_popescu "Some would argue it would mean nothing to the U.S. economy or the consumer's budget anyway. Only a rich person would be that insensitive," the "Mad Money" host said. [17:06]
mircea_popescu "Here's the good news: you could have already received that $1,000, but from another source. Pretty sweet, right? It landed in your pocket from a combination of the Persian Gulf nations, non-Opec trading partners, and U.S. oil companies. [17:07]
mircea_popescu Thanks, oil! [17:07]
mircea_popescu These entities outside of the U.S. have been making money hand over fist for years from oil, and Cramer thinks it is about time that this cartel that kept oil unnaturally high priced for so long return it back to hard working citizens." [17:07]
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mircea_popescu it just... it's not even bitcointalk level. if these people were fired tomorrow, not all of them would qualify to write ranty nonsensical posts on tardstalk in defense of an entrepreneurial artisan woodcarver or w/e. [17:08]
asciilifeform probably an intern [17:08]
mircea_popescu Abigail Stevenson Digital Producer [17:09]
mircea_popescu she looks like a would be porn starlet that didn't make the cut, tbh. [17:09]
* asciilifeform analog consumer [17:09]
mircea_popescu i wonder how people justify working there to themselves. "o, i am now stuck in traffic driving towards my workplace, which is cnn. where that fucktard abigail stevenson works. it must mean i'm as incredibly stupid as she is ?!" [17:10]
mircea_popescu what goes next ? "no, because i bought that new pair of shoes and dinner" ? [17:11]
asciilifeform neh it goes 'no i get to pay rent. mine is not to question why, mine is but to do and die (TM)' [17:11]
asciilifeform like the microcontroller fella from last night [17:11]
mircea_popescu different article, same source : [17:11]
mircea_popescu "A leading tax expert says the Internal Revenue Service can, and likely will, let customers keep their Obamacare subsidies through the end of this year if the high court rules in June that those subsidies are illegal. [17:11]
mircea_popescu And that six-month grace period in turn could ratchet up political pressure on Republican opponents of Obamacare to develop a plan to replace the valuable subsidies, which would be expiring right on the eve of the 2016 presidential primary season, instead of this summer." [17:11]
asciilifeform into the valley of derp, rode the six hundred. [17:12]
mircea_popescu pretty much everything on cnn seems to be on the topic of populism. [17:12]
mircea_popescu "giving moneyz to ppls!!1" [17:12]
mircea_popescu "About 7.5 million customers are at risk of losing those subsidies, which help them pay monthly premiums for health insurance plans purchased through that federally run marketplace that serves 37 states. Experts predict that more than 8 million people would become uninsured next year after finding their plans too expensive without the subsidies, and after plan prices rise to compensate for the loss of cu [17:12]
mircea_popescu stomers." [17:12]
mircea_popescu that shit worked so well omfg... [17:13]
asciilifeform it's cement. [17:13]
asciilifeform which is to say, making sure that the thing is not removable under any conceivable 'reform' [17:13]
mircea_popescu "Accordingly, I respectfully ask Congress to raise the debt limit as soon as possible," Lew wrote in his letter. [17:14]
mircea_popescu lmao. [17:14]
mircea_popescu "accordingly, we're cutting down our expenditure" said no wh ever. [17:14]
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mircea_popescu unrelatedly, [17:18]
assbot Glitzy bits: Demi Moore bares all for OUI at 18. ... ( ) [17:18]
mircea_popescu somehow, "pickup mastery" was a thing in 1980. [17:19]
mircea_popescu TW: 80s nudity. [17:20]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform btw, on the poetry translation angle, [17:49]
assbot Sfinta inocenta puberala pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [17:49]
mircea_popescu it's the 1930 anthem of romania's fascist group, rewritten to quite outrageous ribaldry. [17:50]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: neato! [18:00]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: your own creation ? [18:01]
mircea_popescu yup. [18:01]
mircea_popescu and then had the girls sing it! [18:01]
mircea_popescu ;;google sfinta inocenta legionara [18:01]
gribble Cassian Maria SPIRIDON - Convorbiri Literare: ; Senzationalul unor amintiri de mare clasa - Observator Cultural: ; Sfintii Inchisorilor | Facebook: [18:01]
mircea_popescu hm [18:01]
mircea_popescu < original [18:02]
assbot Sfanta Tinerete Legionara - YouTube ... ( ) [18:02]
asciilifeform who are the stiffs ? [18:05]
mircea_popescu the stiffs ? [18:05]
asciilifeform yeah i counted at least 3 [18:05]
asciilifeform in that film [18:06]
mircea_popescu ... [18:06]
mircea_popescu me actually looks now [18:06]
mircea_popescu you mean dead bodies ?! [18:06]
asciilifeform aha [18:06]
asciilifeform lying about [18:06]
asciilifeform 1'32" for instance [18:07]
asciilifeform 2'36" [18:07]
mircea_popescu oh, the first two are prolly repatriated dead in spain. [18:07]
asciilifeform condor ? [18:08]
mircea_popescu ion mota, vasile marin. dead in alhambra iirc [18:08]
mircea_popescu nah, romania had its own thing [18:08]
asciilifeform hey even ireland did [18:08]
mircea_popescu and the later pic is i dunno what. [18:09]
mircea_popescu im not all that up to date to their internal strife, but think in terms of ny mafia. some underboss or other. [18:10]
mircea_popescu tony twoteeth or sammy horseplank or w/e [18:11]
asciilifeform assumed it was some horst wessel-like figure or other [18:11]
asciilifeform fuckdamnit read a 80GB disk seven times and came up with seven distinct images. [18:12]
asciilifeform i go to find out why; [18:12]
mircea_popescu lmao [18:12]
mircea_popescu diddlatroll.jpg [18:12]
asciilifeform best hypothesis appears to be: the chinese crapfarm who built the adapter - used conductive glue instead of solder for one of the connectors [18:12]
asciilifeform why - no one knows [18:12]
mircea_popescu "Multi legionari ar fi dat orice ca sa-i insoteasca in aceasta Cruciada. Insa lipsa fondurilor si previzibila impotrivire a guvernului fata de o expeditie de amploare au facut ca Legiunea sa trimita pe front o echipa alcatuita din numai sapte oameni." << "everyone wanted to go but too poor to afford the trip, and besides, parents wouldn't approve. so they had their own 7 man condor legion." [18:13]
mircea_popescu no sword, no horse. [18:13]
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mircea_popescu granted, the communist halp was by and large not much better, but anyway, [18:15]
asciilifeform [18:16]
assbot wtf conductive glue! drops bits... - Imgur ... ( ) [18:16]
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mircea_popescu looks like you found someone's toilet break [18:16]
asciilifeform about one per ~10 GB, on average. [18:16]
asciilifeform wonder if it's actually slightly semiconductive [18:18]
asciilifeform and picking up the proverbial 'voice of america' every now & then. [18:18]
asciilifeform looks quite like solder from a distance [18:18]
asciilifeform (the grungy, dark lead-free kind) [18:18]
asciilifeform oddly enough - used for just the pata 40pin header and nothing else [18:19]
mircea_popescu in other news, [18:19]
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asciilifeform jurov: that thing actually uses 'cloudfront' ? [18:26]
asciilifeform why? [18:26]
* asciilifeform is not sufficiently up to date on the subject to remember why he instinctively flinched at seeing 'cloudfront' on the error page [18:28]
asciilifeform possibly the word 'cloud' [18:28]
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mod6 nice [18:31]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: [18:37]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: .gif << what wasted talent. think of how much cocaine would fit [18:48]
mircea_popescu maybe it's training run. [19:00]
mircea_popescu jurov it read cloudflare in my head [19:01]
mircea_popescu alf prolly same [19:01]
jurov aha [19:01]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes! [19:01]
asciilifeform it did [19:01]
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danielpbarron [19:24]
assbot ... ( ) [19:24]
adlai bu20u/b [19:24]
adlai oops [19:24]
asciilifeform << lol [19:25]
assbot Ecstaticpessimist ... ( ) [19:25]
ecstaticpessimst danielpbarron: you got it [19:25]
asciilifeform ecstaticpessimst: what brings you to #b-a ? [19:25]
ecstaticpessimst I heard it was a good knowledgable bitcoin community and I wanted to observe [19:26]
danielpbarron heard from who/where? [19:26]
asciilifeform ecstaticpessimst: best way to get a feel is to read the log, published on www, [19:26]
ecstaticpessimst A friend, I forget their irc name though. [19:26]
ecstaticpessimst asciilifeform, ill take a look thanks [19:27]
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asciilifeform << mega-l0l [19:29]
assbot Ecstaticpessimist ... ( ) [19:29]
asciilifeform ^ worth reading [19:29]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu ^ definitely a 'dulap' sort of flavour [19:30]
jurov lol rmunroe runs foundation code? [19:30]
assbot xkcd: Hard Reboot ... ( ) [19:30]
ecstaticpessimst I feel like im immediately being dissected. [19:31]
jurov viva la vivisection [19:32]
asciilifeform ecstaticpessimst: neh, this is the positive reception. the folks who have nothing of interest published - they're the ones who get the dissection [19:32]
ecstaticpessimst I havent given anyone that website, i havent added everything ive done to it yet, its like having someone read a book that you've only made loose scribblings on. [19:33]
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asciilifeform it's a www site [19:33]
asciilifeform public. [19:33]
asciilifeform and anyway that's story's a real riot [19:34]
ecstaticpessimst true, I just have a very small web presense so most of the views come from people Ive met in person and I dont tell them about it usually. [19:34]
ecstaticpessimst haha do you actually think so? if so I want to know what you hated about it. [19:35]
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assbot Under U.S. Pressure, PayPal Nukes Mega For Encrypting Files | TorrentFreak ... ( ) [19:44]
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danielpbarron Nobody noticed the hat initially. Was the city too busy for the hat to be anything of interest? It took five or so hours of walking around different parts of Manhattan before anyone said anything. When it started to get dark out people reacted completely differently. One person came up to me, asked about the hat and then offered me a range drugs. << LOLOL [19:51]
assbot Ecstaticpessimist ... ( ) [19:51]
danielpbarron ecstaticpessimst, what's the url I can submit stuff to to make it show up on your test subject's head? [19:54]
asciilifeform !up ecstaticpessimst [19:54]
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ecstaticpessimst hahaha [19:54]
ecstaticpessimst one sec [19:55]
ecstaticpessimst Its by email [19:55]
assbot Forehead Gallery ... ( ) [19:55]
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danielpbarron you might need to ask for a cloak in #freenode / there's a DDoS bot hanging around here [20:03]
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adlai "Immediately I noticed the feeling of a fishing line pulling me screen-first throughout the day." [20:19]
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mircea_popescu when you peer into the b-a, the b-a peers back into you. [21:14]
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cazalla i've updated the ulbrich appeal with pdf and text of the motion of a new trial if anyone was interested in reading it [21:43]
assbot Ross Ulbricht Seeks New Trial | ... ( ) [21:43]
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cazalla bah, that pdf to text converter butchered a bunch of paragraphs [21:59]
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cazalla fixed [22:30]
mircea_popescu cool [22:49]
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mircea_popescu << thermorectal in a good way! check it asciilifeform [22:51]
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mircea_popescu "Thompson was faced with a hardware environment cramped and spartan even for the time: the DEC PDP-7 on which he started in 1968 was a machine with 8K 18-bit words of memory and no software useful to him." [23:13]
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asciilifeform 8k x 18 is still a fuckton if there's no extraneous crapolade in there [23:34]
asciilifeform how many folks here have written enough asm (let's be liberal, pick any arch) to fill 8k? [23:35]
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* asciilifeform has, and it took a while [23:35]
asciilifeform before anyone says 'but the data set' - people in the 'age of xx kB' often kept them on tape and operated piecemeal [23:36]
asciilifeform see the 'tape sorts' featured in the knuth aop centerfolds, for example [23:36]
mircea_popescu it's about 2-4k instructions. a week's worth ? [23:37]
asciilifeform if you do nothing else [23:37]
asciilifeform and writing mostly 'from your head' already. [23:37]
asciilifeform then yes. [23:37]
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cazalla i take it noone here got an invite to evoorhee's wedding lol [23:40]
mircea_popescu well if you're going to write asm you'd better know the opcodes. [23:40]
mircea_popescu uh wasn't that in 2013 ?! [23:41]
mircea_popescu for all the american beauty fans : [23:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: meant the overall logic, rather than opcodes (of course you know the opcodes, that isn't what takes time) [23:41]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform you said write, not you know, make useful stuff :D [23:41]
cazalla mircea_popescu, nfi, just saw an image posted a few hours ago, assumed it was from today, guess not [23:41]
asciilifeform since he came up, i'd still like to understand why he took to spam [23:42]
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cazalla wow, some tumblr pics that aren't 320x480 for once [23:44]
mircea_popescu trinque "Last updated 2015-03-03 07:34:57.895386" ? [23:45]
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asciilifeform (from mircea_popescu's comment section) << mega-l0l [23:52]
assbot FetLife lies, like, a lot. ... ( ) [23:52]
mircea_popescu really, bitcoin is quite aptly "a microscope". specifically, in this case : the sort of bs idiocy we deride used to pass for "business" and "entrepreneurship" as a regular thing. sop. [23:53]
mircea_popescu those dudes find themselves in the position where atrocities that were just fine suddenly are viewed as atrocities by a cohesive group. [23:53]
mircea_popescu talk about business disruption. [23:54]
trinque mircea_popescu: yeah, I've been running the uploader by hand; I'm around to do so [23:54]
asciilifeform betcha they see #b-a as something not unlike how normal people see militant 'vegans' [23:54]
trinque sometime this weekend I'm going to make some improvements to the thing, including uploading via cronjob [23:54]
asciilifeform 'what do you mean i shouldn't butcher my chumps' [23:54]
trinque !up deedbot- [23:54]
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trinque I've had a highlight on deedbot- in the meantime [23:55]
mircea_popescu i think "isis" is really the only available symbol to describe chtulhu, the borg, entity q and so forth. [23:55]
thestringpuller how is cthulhu and the borg related? [23:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: idk, in my head it inevitably evokes a horde of orcs and [23:57]
mircea_popescu by being isis. [23:57]
mircea_popescu "This is the Plesk™ default page" [23:57]
thestringpuller in what sense? fucking shit up? [23:57]
asciilifeform jacquerie with kalash is still jacquerie [23:57]
mircea_popescu meanwhile ... [23:58]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller no, in the sense of not dating. [23:58]
thestringpuller oh [23:59]
thestringpuller haha [23:59]
thestringpuller hahaha [23:59]
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