Forum logs for 06 Oct 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292450 << somehow i can't help but picture maggots, having devoured a quantity of gangrenous tissue, proceeding to living flesh - i.e. 'gnome' and 'kde' have been poetteringed into putrescent soup, and now it is time for the kernel...	[00:00]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 00:17:23; mircea_popescu: You were the only toxic thing in that entire story. Hopefully your failure informs other women, at a young age when they confront the choice of whether to be sarah-sharp-toxic or productive members of society, and they choose to not be sarah-sharp-toxic.	[00:00]
asciilifeform	aaaaaand it all goes back to hardware.	[00:00]
asciilifeform	it being the ONLY reason one cannot permanently nail down a kernel and pour cement over it.	[00:01]
asciilifeform	this ~will~ have to be addressed, or kittenz and rainbowz will come to grief.	[00:01]
asciilifeform	amd co., the old gentle giant, is not long for this world. which leaves intel, which is a malignancy.	[00:02]
asciilifeform	ten thousand kinds of vermin are quietly (and not so quietly) waiting for this day.	[00:02]
asciilifeform	and mircea_popescu's sometimes-powerful medicine of putting on a blindfold and pretending that nothing happens outside of his wot - will not work here.	[00:03]
asciilifeform	my own favourite pill, of stockpiling hardware, is also no kind of solution to anything.	[00:04]
asciilifeform	(anything outside of my humble zimbabwe hut, that is)	[00:04]
asciilifeform	new iron will have to be baked.	[00:05]
asciilifeform	(by whom...?)	[00:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61450 @ 0.00041625 = 25.5786 BTC [+] {3}	[00:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.0004171 = 15.0573 BTC [+] {2}	[00:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00040977 = 4.4665 BTC [-]	[00:26]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.00041799 = 27.1694 BTC [+] {4}	[00:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50550 @ 0.00042138 = 21.3008 BTC [+] {3}	[01:13]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00041937 = 10.3584 BTC [-]	[01:27]
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asciilifeform	!up gabriel_laddel	[01:33]
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gabriel_laddel	asciilifeform: what is wrong with stockpiling AMD opterons?	[01:35]
gabriel_laddel	sure, it is only a temporary solution, but we've no other option	[01:36]
asciilifeform	stockpile the (increasingly unobtainable) mobos first	[01:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.00041527 = 19.7253 BTC [-] {2}	[01:53]
cazalla	well, Black Mass http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1355683/ was a total disappointment	[02:02]
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BingoBoingo	Johnny Depp is already a parody of himself. Give it two years and he'll do the Nicholas Cage thing where he fights for parts in straight to home video flicks just to pay the bills.	[02:05]
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BingoBoingo	https://i.imgur.com/96K76xy.jpg	[02:08]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1hncGNZ )	[02:08]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[02:25]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 240.88, vol: 24768.80455782 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 239.7, vol: 9857.40637 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 241.73, vol: 11952.90201183 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 250.0, vol: 1.28447416 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 245.432246, vol: 20504.38350000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 240.25001, vol: 86.56163666 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 242.378949989, vol: 47.69713933 \| Volume-weighted last (1 more message)	[02:25]
BingoBoingo	;;more	[02:25]
gribble	average: 242.247140954	[02:25]
trinque	ben_vulpes \| worst case scenario, unless the standard is verifiability, #bitcoin-jesters could cause all sortsa problems trying to federate their wot into this one. << I have pondered making deedbot- eat rss feeds of deeds; sounds applicable here	[02:28]
trinque	perhaps this calls for a separate address per type of thing	[02:29]
trinque	one for general deeds, one for buy/sell ads, one for rates?	[02:29]
trinque	something to think about. in other news, my journey is complete	[02:30]
trinque	you know, you could probably make a pretty cool DHT system where the indexes of interesting keys are the txns sent from particular addresses	[02:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139417 @ 0.00041696 = 58.1313 BTC [+] {6}	[02:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17683 @ 0.00042265 = 7.4737 BTC [+] {2}	[02:59]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6474 @ 0.00041548 = 2.6898 BTC [-]	[03:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18032 @ 0.00042038 = 7.5803 BTC [+]	[03:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8445 @ 0.00042038 = 3.5501 BTC [+]	[03:54]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00042415 = 13.3183 BTC [+] {3}	[04:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64450 @ 0.00042634 = 27.4776 BTC [+] {2}	[04:37]
BingoBoingo	All gambling outside of BitBet is a scam http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/05/draftkings_and_fanduel_scrutinized_for_insider_info_after_employee_leak.html	[04:54]
assbot	DraftKings and FanDuel scrutinized for insider info after employee leak, win. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FU9J2X )	[04:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00042661 = 15.8486 BTC [+] {2}	[04:55]
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punkman	BingoBoingo: how do people bet on fantasy sports?	[05:00]
BingoBoingo	They each throw a bit of money into a pot, then winner/platform takes all	[05:01]
BingoBoingo	https://www.slimgr.com/images/2015/10/05/bebcbdb04a083de92f29ac067225e21d.jpg	[05:02]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1RrUHTB )	[05:02]
BingoBoingo	It's apparently been a year https://imgur.com/a/6rk2e	[05:11]
assbot	Bearwhale - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrUZtD )	[05:11]
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punkman	http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/12/all-you-need-is-love/302351/	[05:36]
assbot	All You Need Is Love - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z6iJZ9 )	[05:36]
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punkman	http://www.wired.com/2015/10/no-comments-allowed-reddits-new-news-site-upvoted/	[05:52]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1LeaLD2 )	[05:52]
punkman	http://motherboard.vice.com/read/im-on-twitter-too	[05:53]
assbot	We're Replacing Comments with Something Better \| Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1LeaTT8 )	[05:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.0004244 = 13.602 BTC [-]	[05:56]
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cazalla	https://youtu.be/82UsZ44AxIA?t=4m50s	[06:08]
assbot	Japanese Man Accidentally Burns Down His House While Live Streaming \| Japanese Streamer Home Fire - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Leds7D )	[06:08]
cazalla	!up gabriel_laddel	[06:10]
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gabriel_laddel	ty	[06:11]
gabriel_laddel	http://www.tanyakhovanova.com/Jokes/jokes.html	[06:11]
assbot	Math Humor ... ( http://bit.ly/1LedQ5V )	[06:11]
gabriel_laddel	some choice lines	[06:11]
gabriel_laddel	"Entropy isn't what it used to be."	[06:11]
gabriel_laddel	"What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?"	[06:11]
gabriel_laddel	"Grigori Perelman's theorem: There is no offer you can't refuse."	[06:11]
gabriel_laddel	most are meh, but w/e	[06:11]
gabriel_laddel	* * * Windows error messages in haiku	[06:14]
gabriel_laddel	A file that big?	[06:14]
gabriel_laddel	It might be very useful.	[06:14]
gabriel_laddel	But now it is gone.	[06:14]
gabriel_laddel	ABORTED effort:	[06:14]
gabriel_laddel	Close all that you have worked on.	[06:14]
gabriel_laddel	You ask way too much.	[06:14]
gabriel_laddel	"No Comments Allowed on Reddit’s New News Site ‘Upvoted’"	[06:16]
gabriel_laddel	Wow, brilliant guys. Really, truly, innovative. Von N., Turing, Engelbart, McCarthy etc would be proud.	[06:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00042439 = 9.761 BTC [-] {2}	[06:22]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00042664 = 12.1166 BTC [+]	[06:30]
gabriel_laddel	If a man tries to fail and succeeds, which did he do?	[06:32]
gabriel_laddel	A PHD in string theory!	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292505 << yeah he did, http://trilema.com/2011/arta-pedepsirii/ and conversationally many places such as recently http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-09-2015#1288346	[06:33]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 01:12:45; asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu wrote something re: how he wants wot as a very fluid and informal animal that can't be 'optimized against'	[06:33]
assbot	Arta pedepsirii on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Leh4qa )	[06:33]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 09:29:18; mircea_popescu: i don't want anything specific. but i will be keeping track of a large ammount of tiny indicators, because anything else results in exam-taking-training.	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292510 <<< bwahahaha and moscow times is the real thing ?	[06:34]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 01:26:11; assbot: RT Is a Mock-Up of the Real Thing \| Opinion \| The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPEqg )	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	such lulz.	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	but yes, the russian did it poorly. should have been America Today.	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292538 << pfff!	[06:37]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 03:02:26; asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu's sometimes-powerful medicine of putting on a blindfold and pretending that nothing happens outside of his wot - will not work here.	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292563 << no it doesn't, simmer down.	[06:38]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 05:28:10; trinque: perhaps this calls for a separate address per type of thing	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	not everything that isn't specced but could be specced should be. that's how idiocy gets in.	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292577 << they don't. they fantasize that they did.	[06:39]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 07:59:14; punkman: BingoBoingo: how do people bet on fantasy sports?	[06:39]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292529 << no i don't ?	[06:42]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 02:49:33; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you've got mailz!	[06:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77500 @ 0.00042667 = 33.0669 BTC [+] {4}	[07:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96772 @ 0.00042695 = 41.3168 BTC [+] {2}	[07:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52150 @ 0.00042886 = 22.365 BTC [+]	[08:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00042949 = 9.7065 BTC [+] {2}	[08:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93450 @ 0.00043183 = 40.3545 BTC [+] {3}	[08:52]
mircea_popescu	so upon examination it turns out that polimedia mx dns record has been poisoned somehow, or what the fuck.	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	anyone else see Preferred: 10 p.nsm.ctmail.com 38.113.116.194 216.163.188.57 216.163.176.42 220 c9bh03.amadis.com ESMTP Postfix	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	?	[09:06]
kakobrekla	;; ANSWER SECTION:	[09:07]
kakobrekla	polimedia.us. 3599 IN MX 10 p.nsm.ctmail.com.	[09:07]
gribble	Error: "ANSWER" is not a valid command.	[09:07]
mircea_popescu	da fuck.	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	local zone is correct.	[09:12]
mircea_popescu	;; ANSWER SECTION:	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	polimedia.us. 1800 IN A 64.74.223.37	[09:13]
gribble	Error: "ANSWER" is not a valid command.	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	ahaha what the everloving fuck.	[09:13]
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punkman	I get p.nsm.ctmail.com too	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	how the fuck does this even work ? http://dpaste.com/1PBK2J4	[09:31]
assbot	dpaste: 1PBK2J4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUx6t2 )	[09:31]
punkman	bunch of other people had their MX directed to p.nsm.ctmail.com if you google it	[09:34]
mircea_popescu	http://dpaste.com/09J1H1A << hijack through and through.	[09:35]
assbot	dpaste: 09J1H1A ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUxqIm )	[09:35]
mircea_popescu	"Hello, ctmail.com is a domain used by Internet security software and devices. For more information please contact info@support.ctmail.com."	[09:35]
mircea_popescu	ahem.	[09:35]
mircea_popescu	‎	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	For security reason, we cannot have an internal link available to the Public. Please bookmark this link https://ctmail.ct.gov so you can access the site directly.	[09:36]
assbot	Outlook Web App ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUxyaM )	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	www.ct.gov/best/cwp/view.asp?a=2297&q=520956‎	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	ct.gov, seriously ? obscure "antivirus" corp with no product ?	[09:39]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59900 @ 0.00043225 = 25.8918 BTC [+]	[09:42]
punkman	http://forums.hostgator.com/livechat-support-disgrace-pls-assist-t137495.html?s=6cb4f57e7b796879cba64a4d497108d8&	[09:42]
punkman	http://mxlist.net/p.nsm.ctmail.com/	[09:42]
assbot	mxlist of p.nsm.ctmail.com page 1/16219 ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUydZK )	[09:42]
davout	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291025 <<< because second edition	[09:43]
assbot	Logged on 03-10-2015 19:25:58; AgentScully: I'm kind of sad no one liked my applied crypto pic	[09:43]
mircea_popescu	punkman 16k pages worht of hijacked domains ?!	[09:44]
punkman	right, and nobody has written a blog post about this so far, has been happening for years	[09:45]
mircea_popescu	...	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	there's something too weird for life here.	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	o da fuck. Expires On October 01, 2015	[09:46]
punkman	polimedia?	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	"After reviewing your chat transcripts, it appears in the first chat that the Junior Administrator stated specifically what the issue was, which is that the domain is expired as of 8/7/2011. There was also clarification provided that you'd need to contact the registrar directly for the renewal and to update the DNS back to our name-servers."	[09:48]
mircea_popescu	in your link.	[09:48]
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mircea_popescu	no fucking wonder's been going on for yearsnobody wrote about it. they'd have to write "umm....lolz"	[09:48]
punkman	so namecheap changed mx record after it expired?	[09:50]
mircea_popescu	myeah	[09:51]
punkman	am disappoint, dns poisoning would've been cool	[09:51]
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mircea_popescu	yeah srsly.	[09:55]
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asciilifeform	ok wat is this.	[09:56]
punkman	they should have thrown some kind of error though, instead of silently accepting all teh emails	[09:56]
asciilifeform	oh noez zey stole me ciphertext!	[09:56]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform that's kinda what was wtfing me, what, i don't paste enough of inbound spam in here or wtf is their problem.	[09:57]
mircea_popescu	punkman im sure they bounced.	[09:57]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/01B20TA.txt << here it is again. and don't forget to check sig inside.	[09:57]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1FUzJv8 )	[09:57]
mircea_popescu	danke.	[09:57]
mircea_popescu	anyway, this is a psa/reminder that in point of fact there is ZERO security wrt email. i, or you, or anyone bored one evening can hijack a mx record, read all teh inbound mail etc.	[09:58]
mircea_popescu	if you imagine email has any sort of security you're nuts.	[09:59]
*	asciilifeform used to work for an outfit that made millions simply in ensuring that this kind of snafu did not happen, for megacorp clients	[09:59]
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asciilifeform	this is also a psa/reminder that enemy may not read pgp message, but can substitute his own for yours! sign the material inside.	[10:00]
mircea_popescu	in other unrelated news, namecheap wants 200 bucks to renew your expired domain	[10:00]
mircea_popescu	they do however have a 27 day grace period on top of the 5 day grace period etc.	[10:00]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: this is sop	[10:00]
punkman	mircea_popescu: no wai, I just did one the other day for $15	[10:00]
asciilifeform	most of these extortionists have a 'purgatory'	[10:00]
mircea_popescu	yes cuz within the 27 days. they only charged me 8.5 or so	[10:00]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292594 << these are mostly classics	[10:04]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 09:09:51; gabriel_laddel: http://www.tanyakhovanova.com/Jokes/jokes.html	[10:04]
asciilifeform	'The population density of USA is 100 square people per mile.' << win.	[10:04]
*	asciilifeform has a fat manually-typewritten stack of these 'militarizms' somewhere	[10:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63300 @ 0.00043446 = 27.5013 BTC [+] {3}	[10:07]
mircea_popescu	mk we should be back in business. asciilifeform mind remailing me just to see this goes through ?	[10:09]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: resent	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	anyway, the reason this went by unobserved for ~20 hours is that a) internal mail still worked, obviousyl, and b) enom decently adds its record with priority 10. there's a bugfeature apparently where some relayers/dns servers prefer higher priority records even if older.	[10:12]
mircea_popescu	either that or they didn't actually change it until the 3rd.	[10:12]
asciilifeform	it still blows my mind that we're relying on a thing that sits on top of dns.	[10:12]
mircea_popescu	~relying	[10:15]
mircea_popescu	well so i got your email but apparently there;s still someting wrong because it's all garbled and what is this "-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----" stuff.	[10:16]
asciilifeform	wut?!	[10:16]
asciilifeform	diff w/paste ?	[10:16]
asciilifeform	or both similarly garbled ?	[10:16]
mircea_popescu	i'm just being silly!	[10:17]
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mircea_popescu	what, it's a corp.	[10:33]
asciilifeform	as seen in 'asylum'	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	darn.	[10:35]
mircea_popescu	iirc the idea was that nobody'll ever notice.	[10:35]
asciilifeform	l0lz	[10:36]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292608 << this was, iirc, tried (abolition of comments on american fishwrap sites) a few yrs ago, but abandoned because it is too pyongyang	[10:38]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 09:15:29; gabriel_laddel: "No Comments Allowed on Reddit’s New News Site ‘Upvoted’"	[10:38]
asciilifeform	i.e. abandons the appearance of k0nsensoos	[10:38]
mircea_popescu	they'll keep trying. what else is there to do ? compete with pete in pr ?	[10:38]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform btw, did i ever tell you i did all the typesetting of that thing myself ?	[10:39]
mircea_popescu	sent files straight to the printer.	[10:39]
asciilifeform	almost like there is some threshold that is crossed (i.e. ~all~ of the comments on an article re: recent oregon 'postal' being such that concern organized mass disarmament) and then they 'ban commentz now!?!!!'	[10:39]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: my understanding is that all self-published items are typeset personally ?	[10:40]
asciilifeform	i mean, how else	[10:40]
asciilifeform	but yes, a thinking man goes and latex	[10:40]
asciilifeform	this is sop.	[10:40]
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mircea_popescu	a) the printer can't use latex ; b) self published generally means, PoD and a sharky editor that fleeces the hopeful. this was actually printed on web press, so in this sense everything else printed hence is a lot more "self published" than asylum.	[10:41]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: printer tells you what he eats, then you make latex shit it.	[10:41]
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mircea_popescu	it may not be the last web pressed fiction offering in the us, but it won't be far ahead of the last i dun think	[10:41]
asciilifeform	typically the machines are able to eat postscript.	[10:41]
mircea_popescu	aha yep, ps.	[10:41]
asciilifeform	no one eats straight latex, afaik	[10:41]
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mircea_popescu	but you know, machine shop ps. postscript-with-quirks.	[10:42]
asciilifeform	well aha, they send you params	[10:42]
mircea_popescu	actually in the early 2000s there was some effort on the part of mfgs to support latex	[10:42]
mircea_popescu	it died with the death of the entire publishing industry (actual publishing, ie, putting ink to paper. not predend publishing, aka editing newspapers etc)	[10:42]
*	asciilifeform has cases full of various items printed by fully-automated print houses with 'put ps here and money here' wwwtronic vending machine	[10:43]
asciilifeform	this has been a thing for some years.	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	all that's pod and if you inspect the covers you'll see the difference between layflat process and pod covers.	[10:43]
asciilifeform	it is not hard to tell apart	[10:44]
asciilifeform	laserprint toner shines	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	back then it wasn't even fucking expensive, iirc it cost ~25 cents per	[10:44]
asciilifeform	(and, after some years, comes off the page)	[10:44]
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mike_c	;;later tell pete_dushenski I don't see a discrepancy. It updates nightly with the wot database dumps. So probably he changed the rating and btcalpha hadn't picked up the change yet.	[10:44]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[10:44]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the economics of webprint are not unlike those of circuit board	[10:44]
asciilifeform	yes, make 3000 and it is 25c each.	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	quite identical.	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	mike_c he didn't know you can rate in pm, most likely.	[10:45]
mircea_popescu	i don't recall what the run was. maybe 8k ?	[10:45]
asciilifeform	the sad part is that there is no real reason why pod couldn't offer a decent cover	[10:45]
asciilifeform	for extra $$	[10:45]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292666 << i have this edition. it pre-dates his public betrayal and is, afaik, uncensored (vs 1st)	[10:47]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 12:41:59; davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291025 <<< because second edition	[10:47]
asciilifeform	schneier's book	[10:47]
asciilifeform	afaik everyone who programs, has this.	[10:47]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform anyway, the "back then" comment is that i'd be much surprised you can find sanely priced layflat process anymore. because yes, mass production needs the mass.	[10:48]
asciilifeform	'Dear students! Remember that money can solve anything! Even complicated differential equations.'	[10:49]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i recently popped a crate with 4th ed. stroustrup. it was, to my surprise, proper lay-flat. but the pleasant surprise turned to ick when i saw that it, for no particular reason, had blue as well as black print, and a good fraction of the blue is smudged !	[10:50]
asciilifeform	in some places, even double-struck	[10:50]
asciilifeform	to the point of unreadability	[10:50]
asciilifeform	who does this?!	[10:50]
mircea_popescu	what ?!	[10:50]
asciilifeform	aha.	[10:50]
*	mircea_popescu recalls "specialty ink" was more expensive than "double the run"	[10:50]
mircea_popescu	yes i briefly considered printing it in green	[10:51]
asciilifeform	at least it clearly wasn't laser-print!	[10:51]
asciilifeform	(laser print does not behave this way)	[10:51]
mircea_popescu	but perhaps it was handprinted.	[10:51]
asciilifeform	devil knows	[10:51]
asciilifeform	fiddybux doesn't buy handprint, afaik	[10:51]
asciilifeform	the strongest hypothesis is that it was 'we don't giveafuck, you'll buy it'-manufactured.	[10:52]
mircea_popescu	fiddybux buys ~half of reddit.	[10:52]
mircea_popescu	clucked, if you prefer, rather than handprint	[10:52]
asciilifeform	l0l	[10:52]
asciilifeform	'—Some bike thief managed to open my combination lock. How could they possibly guess that the combo was the year of the canonization of Saint Dominic by Pope Gregory IX at Rieti, Italy? —What year was that? —1234.'	[10:58]
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asciilifeform	http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/navy-diversifies-ships-cyber-systems-to-foil-hackers << l0l! betcha they have win98 on one, 95 on others, NT on yet others...	[11:02]
assbot	Navy Diversifies Ships' Cyber Systems to Foil Hackers - IEEE Spectrum ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4qk0N )	[11:02]
asciilifeform	d1v3rs1ty!!!11	[11:02]
asciilifeform	'Swartz had grown moody and stopped showing up to work. At one point, after he wrote a blog post envisioning his own death, Ohanian called the police to break into his apartment. Swartz laughed it off. Meanwhile, publicly, he called himself one of Reddit’s cofounders, taking credit for an idea Huffman and Ohanian believed to be theirs alone. In January of 2007, he was fired. Six years later, he hanged himself while facing a	[11:04]
asciilifeform	federal criminal trial on hacking and fraud charges.'	[11:04]
asciilifeform	l0l, unpersoned already.	[11:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55400 @ 0.0004544 = 25.1738 BTC [+]	[11:05]
mircea_popescu	assbot> [upon reading about it on trilema,] Navy Diversifies Ships' Cyber Systems to Foil Hackers - IEEE Spectrum << FTFT.	[11:09]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Apple will trade above $150 on or before New Year's Day 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1159/apple-will-trade-above-150-on-or-before/#b16	[11:12]
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funkenstein_	http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cps/5184080755.html	[12:12]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Ojt1ll )	[12:12]
funkenstein_	whoops gone already sorry	[12:15]
fluffypony	what was it, funkenstein_?	[12:15]
funkenstein_	https://web.archive.org/web/20151004213142/https://southjersey.craigslist.org/cps/5184080755.html	[12:16]
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funkenstein_	fluffypony, i was gonna ask you	[12:16]
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funkenstein_	somebody wants moar noadz i guess	[12:25]
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diametric	ugh i hate when the channel notifies me my nick was mentioned but then it gets lost in scrollback.	[12:37]
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punkman	http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2015-October/026685.html	[12:42]
assbot	[Cryptography] OpenPGP SEIP downgrade attack ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjvR9W )	[12:42]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[13:11]
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ascii_field	'The implications are, among others, that an encrypted and signed message can be stripped of its signature and modified arbitrarily, with certain restrictions, by an attacker without knowing the key.' << ahahahaha	[13:12]
ascii_field	which is why i say IF NOT SIGNED, MESSAGE IS FROM HITLER	[13:12]
ascii_field	'GPG throws a warning [3] that the message could have been modified, but other implementations do not differentiate between SE and SEIP.' << what 'other implementations' ? microshit crypto ?	[13:13]
trinque	diametric also for weechat there's himon.pl	[13:15]
trinque	gives you a buffer of highlights	[13:15]
diametric	supposedly my bouncer is suppose to capture my damn highlights but it never seems to work right.	[13:16]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu et al: see also old thread, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-09-2015#1285200	[13:18]
assbot	Logged on 25-09-2015 01:45:37; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285102 << presently they are quite unlike! hash type for general-purpose message signing is ~selectable~ from the handful of traditional algos; hash for signature ~of keys~ is hardwired to sha1 !	[13:18]
ascii_field	and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-09-2015#1284794	[13:20]
assbot	Logged on 24-09-2015 14:12:48; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284625 << aha. but ever notice that it's sha1, and can't be changed to anything else? and, likewise, self-sigs are hardcoded to use sha1? it is pestilentially pervasive in the rfc, and Must Die	[13:20]
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davout	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290898 <<< roquefort > brie for omelettes	[13:35]
assbot	Logged on 03-10-2015 16:11:55; mircea_popescu: psa : brie is THE omlette cheese.	[13:35]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: ever seen "Forbidden Zone"?	[13:41]
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ben_vulpes	!up ascii_field	[13:43]
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mircea_popescu	i have not.	[13:44]
ben_vulpes	ascii_field: if i'm responding to a message that was encrypted to my key, and demonstrate knowledge of the cleartext, does that not support unhitlerdom?	[13:44]
ascii_field	ben_vulpes: nope	[13:45]
ascii_field	ben_vulpes: think:	[13:45]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zimsUDzOiSM << fun sample	[13:45]
assbot	Forbidden Zone DANNY ELFMAN DEVIL--COLOR - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUXpiV )	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	davout they don;'t have much roquefort here, unfortunately.	[13:45]
ascii_field	1) i encrypt a message to ben_vulpes's pubkey 2) i send to him 3) hitler picks it up from the wire and throws it away 4) hitler encrypts substitute message to ben_vulpes's pubkey 5) he sends	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes now has spurious message.	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	this is valuable.	[13:46]
ascii_field	valuable if he knows that it is spurious.	[13:46]
ascii_field	otherwise lethal.	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	we'd think ben_vulpes knows better.	[13:47]
ben_vulpes	i'd dearly lurve to see hitler diddle freenode like that	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	or in general. cheap spying, really.	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	"here's what hitler WANTED you to think he said".	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	and with that, i shall be off to buy wine. to sweeten the wait, i leave you with http://40.media.tumblr.com/5bd6f2d522cf52c46ae7a696e0b69054/tumblr_nj0ketRqJs1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg	[13:50]
ascii_field	any halfway decent hitler plants ~deniable~ diddles.	[13:50]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1FUXS4G )	[13:50]
ascii_field	l0l chewing gum section !	[13:50]
punkman	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQi3TxGWwAQvyv3.jpg:large	[13:57]
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ascii_field	in other nyooz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-worlds-silliest-empire.html	[14:11]
assbot	ClubOrlov: The World's Silliest Empire ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUZKdF )	[14:11]
ascii_field	'The first bit of extreme silliness surfaced when Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, the head of the United States Central Command, told a Senate panel that only a very small number of Syrian fighters trained by the United States remained in the fight—perhaps as few as five. The tab for training and equipping them was $500 million. That's $100 million per fighter, but that's OK, because it's all good as long as the militar	[14:12]
ascii_field	y contractors are getting paid. Things got even sillier when it later turned out that even these few fighters got car-jacked by ISIS/al Qaeda in Syria (whatever they are currently calling themselves) and got their vehicles and weapons taken away from them.'	[14:12]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[14:14]
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ascii_field	'Undeterred by diplomacy, the US squeezed off a couple of cruise missiles in the general direction of Syria, but the Russians promptly shot them out of the sky, triggering a major rethink at the Pentagon and, of course, making the US look rather silly.' << i missed this?	[14:14]
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ascii_field	'Of course, being Americans, they have to prosecute this information war in the silliest way possible. First, you trot out your claims of civilian casualties before the Russians fly a single sortie. Oops! Then you stuff the social media with fake pictures of wounded children produced beforehand by performers in white helmets paid for by George Soros. And then, when asked for evidence, you refuse to provide any.' << l0lz	[14:18]
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assbot	Logged on 17-09-2015 02:29:13; asciilifeform: !b 13	[14:33]
ascii_field	neato	[14:42]
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mircea_popescu	!up ascii_field	[14:45]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[14:45]
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ascii_field	how's the wine mircea_popescu	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	dude this country... so there's a nice wine shop, trying you know, to be upscale.	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	i go in, i want to buy stuff, i select a decent half dozen. i get TWENTYFIVE OFF for paying cash.	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	25%, fancy that. clearly visa is such a challenger for bitcoin.	[14:46]
ascii_field	sounds more like an orc selling under the register	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	then, the guy can't work his fucking machine, takes him longer to input my economic activity into his fucking compuer than it took me to engage in it.	[14:47]
ascii_field	(puts money in pocket, writes down 'broke some bottles, sorry')	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	dude was clearly shop owner.	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	moving on : he can't fucking pack for the life of him.	[14:47]
ascii_field	perhaps has a partner	[14:47]
ascii_field	who needs to not-be-paid a bit	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	i bought two champagne flutes of actual genuine bohemian glass (i tested, couldn't believe either)	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	90 peso each. ~5 dollars.	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	then he packed them. he packed ONE in about a cubic foot of corrugated cardboard, sat the other bare next to it. just like that, in the bag.	[14:48]
ascii_field	is leaded glass such a rarity today?	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	since they decided to pretend like " swarovski crystals" yes.	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	anyway. it is fucking impossible to make sense of these people. it's like selective down syndrome, only half the brain is affected.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field not like he didn't give me a receipt.	[14:49]
ascii_field	in usa it's the other half..	[14:49]
ascii_field	(but often, both.)	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	srsly. in usa it's the other half.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	the fucked up sorts of choices one has to face.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	wouldn't you think, if you decide in your late 40s to switch gears and open a wanna-be wine shop, that you pick up the fucking book of how to pack, do exercises in your garage, something ?	[14:51]
ascii_field	i've been - imho, very decently - packing 'ebay' gizmos for yearz	[14:51]
mircea_popescu	just so customers don't look at you while you amble around with your two left legs transplanted for arms ?	[14:51]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu actually got to see an example of my l337 p4ck1ng	[14:52]
ascii_field	at least, what ro customs left of it !	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	lol right.	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/10/no-borders-activist-gang-raped-by-migrants-pressured-into-silence-to-not-damage-cause-3061790.html << wonder how true this is.	[14:55]
assbot	‘No Borders’ Activist Gang Raped By Migrants, Pressured Into Silence To Not ‘Damage Cause’ \| Opinion - Conservative ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4VPIi )	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	not that it's not readily believable, not that there aren't excellent reasons why it's not in the usg agitprop.	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	im sure all the libertard activists are gonna be all over libtardsplainin' this one.	[14:56]
ascii_field	they had at least one almost identical case during the tahrir square idiocy	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	they will continue to have exactly identicalones for as long as uppitty overfed western women get to interact with the real world.	[14:57]
ascii_field	most of them know better than to venture into the 'real world', aha	[14:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47650 @ 0.0004952 = 23.5963 BTC [-] {3}	[15:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29440 @ 0.00049444 = 14.5563 BTC [-]	[15:09]
ascii_field	http://talosintel.com/angler-exposed << lulzy, spamatronic	[15:14]
assbot	Talos Intel - Threat Spotlight: Angler Exposed Generating Millions in Revenue ... ( http://bit.ly/1MboJKW )	[15:14]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00049301 = 15.2094 BTC [-] {2}	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	;;bc,stats	[15:28]
gribble	Current Blocks: 377759 \| Current Difficulty: 6.0813224039440346E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 379007 \| Next Difficulty In: 1248 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 6 hours, 21 minutes, and 27 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: None \| Estimated Percent Change: None	[15:28]
BingoBoingo	whatever, flushed. BingoBoingo if you are ever about to !bN where N > 5, just add it to wiki. << k	[15:29]
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punkman	so many lolz in bash, someone's gotta do a stand up show	[15:34]
punkman	http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-treasury-bonds-pull-back-1444052528	[15:40]
assbot	Yield of 0% a First at 3-Month Treasury-Bill Sale - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1hoRpDk )	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	yeah srsly.	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	i keep wondering reading that if it's just you know, me lolzing because insider jokes and it's really more like lolsnort,	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	or whether genuinely hysterical.	[15:41]
punkman	there's both	[15:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20209 @ 0.00049301 = 9.9632 BTC [-] {2}	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	prolly.	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	anyway, lassia 2013 malbec/csauvignon coupage is quite adequate sandwich wine.	[15:42]
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mircea_popescu	why the fuck they use plastic corks is beyond me, but anyway.	[15:44]
hanbot	cvasignon! what do you sandwich it with?	[15:44]
punkman	maybe they can't import enough cork	[15:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00049678 = 24.1932 BTC [+]	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	punkman i'd expect cork tree grows here.	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	it grows in fucking greece ffs.	[15:46]
hanbot	portugal.	[15:46]
mircea_popescu	it grows all over, it's oak.	[15:46]
punkman	I don't think there's enough to go around these days	[15:46]
mircea_popescu	hanbot you sandwich fiambres!	[15:47]
deedbot-	[Trilema] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2015-statement/	[15:47]
mircea_popescu	re that article, i would direct the esteemed readership to footnote three in very particular.	[15:48]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[15:49]
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trinque	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292563 << no it doesn't, simmer down. << sure I'm not actually going to do this	[15:49]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 05:28:10; trinque: perhaps this calls for a separate address per type of thing	[15:49]
trinque	curious though how to make the WoT generally available data	[15:50]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: the thing is practically begging to be c++11-ized	[15:50]
trinque	perhaps it must be centralized in some manner, though perhaps backed up elsewhere	[15:50]
ascii_field	with refcountatronic pointers, etc	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	trinque the major point s that wot is not actually generally available. just like trust is not a scalar,	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	wot data is meanginelss out of context.	[15:50]
trinque	that makes sense	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	i might care what i rated x, or what you rated x. but the meaning of these ratings to a third party we don't know is necessarily 0.	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	obviously the ustardian approach to things ("let's steal someshit!") will try and pretend like it's not so, to "build a business" out of it.	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	but notwithstandingtheir hopes and aspirations to "build businesses", you can't make money renting out the space inside your nose.	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	as carlin aptly observed.	[15:51]
ascii_field	where was that thread	[15:53]
ascii_field	with gossipd/wot	[15:53]
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mircea_popescu	in the logs!!1 :D	[16:01]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-01-2015#968123 << found it.	[16:04]
assbot	Logged on 07-01-2015 05:29:32; mircea_popescu: this harms because : it gives unknowns a weight they should not have ; it removes the incentive for users to police at their local level ; it allows third parties to construct undeniable chatlogs that they had no business in.	[16:04]
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mircea_popescu	aye!	[16:09]
BingoBoingo	Kernel PhorCT by ShitGnomes: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel	[16:10]
assbot	Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md8vg6 )	[16:10]
ascii_field	10,001 people have forked the kernel...	[16:11]
ascii_field	for fucks sake ~i~ forked the kernel	[16:11]
ascii_field	snore.	[16:11]
BingoBoingo	But this time with more Social Justice Whales	[16:12]
mike_c	trinque - you know the wot database is dumped nightly, right?	[16:13]
trinque	yeah, we've just got this fancy decentralized database and so everything looks like a nail	[16:14]
mike_c	there's enough broken things around to fix. the wot seems to be working :)	[16:15]
trinque	sure sure, was idle speculation	[16:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38895 @ 0.00049678 = 19.3223 BTC [+]	[16:15]
mike_c	now if we could decentralize PCB routing..	[16:15]
mike_c	maybe ethereum can do it	[16:16]
BingoBoingo	Random language turds by the would be usurper: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/35416.html https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/36376.html https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/33455.html	[16:16]
assbot	mjg59 \| Internet abuse culture is a tech industry problem ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md97Cs )	[16:16]
BingoBoingo	"Being a cis white man who's a native English speaker from a fairly well-off background, I'm pretty familiar with privilege. "	[16:16]
assbot	mjg59 \| Reverse this ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md97SN )	[16:16]
assbot	mjg59 \| On joining the FSF board ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md97lY )	[16:16]
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BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field	[16:20]
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mircea_popescu	which garrett is this ?!	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	oh. for a momenbt i thought it was the lord british garrett.	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck cares seriously.	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	"Cutting yourself off from that community impairs your ability to do work"	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	dude get fucked, cutting b=a from the imbecillity has improved its ability to do work like 10x if not more.	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	one sufficient reason ethereum will never ever amount to anything is exactly its failure to cut itself off from idiots.	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	and so forth.	[16:36]
BingoBoingo	Just you wait, next this heretic kernel gets KDBUS then Debian will switch to it. Maybe Fedora first because of Poettering.	[16:36]
Naphex	https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html	[16:36]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1MdaYXQ )	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	heck, bitcoin got a lot better once it cut itself off from the usgavin & freiends	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo debian can switch to dead squirrel for all the difference it makes to me.	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html << speaking of which, plox to give the guy's numbers a good shakedown, because im considering listing xotika this month.	[16:37]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1MdaYXQ )	[16:37]
Naphex	aye i'll have a special section for all this soon. at the moment first report delivered like this	[16:39]
ascii_field	countdown to 'intel et al supports garret kernel only' in 3, 2, 1...	[16:40]
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mircea_popescu	yaya	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	they can support "free syrian militia" or w/e also for all the difference it makes irl.	[16:42]
ascii_field	in irl they make hardware.	[16:42]
ascii_field	soon to be the only workstation hardware.	[16:43]
ascii_field	'For far too long, Linux has discriminated against "differently abled" code, with all its segregationist notions of kernel-vs-userspace. And even within userspace, could the very word "permissions" get any closer to "privilege"??? At long last, viruses we have historically relegated to the slums of Windows will finally have the right to run in the ivory sandbox of Linux - We need "Runtime Justice" for all code, whether	[16:44]
ascii_field	CLI or GUI, whether drivers or devices, whether signed or malware! There is no such thing as an "illegal" instruction!' << win	[16:44]
ascii_field	best tr0l0l0l	[16:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18982 @ 0.00049232 = 9.3452 BTC [-] {2}	[16:46]
ascii_field	'"He is a recipient of the Free Software Award from the Free Software Foundation for his work on Secure Boot, UEFI, and the Linux kernel". Ah! All the bits that I don't want in the kernel. Did he work on systemd too?'	[16:46]
ascii_field	this was a thing ?!!!	[16:46]
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mircea_popescu	see, thisis the problem of weak men.	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	rms poses as strong, is weak, on this word taken at its word fsf is born, then i have to contend with "fucking awards"	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	i propose to you that there is exactly one reason satoshi kept quiet and buggered off.	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	that reason is - that he did not want to face my wrath.	[16:49]
ascii_field	eh, steve morse is still alive	[16:50]
ascii_field	(author of 8086)	[16:50]
ascii_field	faced wrath of mircea_popescu ?	[16:50]
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mircea_popescu	how did that quote go	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	"Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me."	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	anyway. the advantage of anon & disappeared as opposed to "going to every conference that serves pasta" is that you don't have to face the "i fucking expected better of you" reproach.	[16:53]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[16:54]
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mircea_popescu	http://40.media.tumblr.com/a024c31891a9a2b521cc0371f84a9fa7/tumblr_niwz0aLZHB1skwz29o1_1280.jpg << not bad idea huh.	[16:56]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Ph0tbk )	[16:56]
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jurov	imma send any gay with doubts to this chan	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	whyssat ?	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	!up livegnik	[16:59]
-assbot-	You voiced livegnik for 30 minutes.	[16:59]
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jurov	if they aren't aroused by these chicks, then there is no doubt left :D	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	notrly, just upping people.	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	jurov is gayness actually "not aroused by women" ?	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	i thought it was more along the "prefers to fuck guys"	[16:59]
jurov	what else	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	if a dude's aroused by stockings he's not a stockingay now, is he ?	[17:00]
jurov	"women in stockings arouse me. am i gay or not?"	[17:00]
*	mircea_popescu has known plenty of gay dudes fetishistically aroused by slavegirls, in the slave aspect rather than in the girl aspect	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	"wannabe her"	[17:01]
jurov	oh that. i was joking about dudes that cannot distinguish that yet.	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	aok :p	[17:02]
jurov	;;seen williamdunne	[17:03]
gribble	williamdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: But yah	[17:03]
livegnik	Thnx mircea_popescu.	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	:p	[17:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50650 @ 0.00048715 = 24.6741 BTC [-] {4}	[17:07]
jurov	;;ticker	[17:11]
gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 247.46, Best ask: 247.47, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 247.47, 24 hour volume: 17622.82420398, 24 hour low: 240.71, 24 hour high: 249.01, 24 hour vwap: None	[17:11]
mike_c	I'm tired of 200->300->200->300->...	[17:13]
mike_c	get a new trick ticker.	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	lol	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	dude it's stable like visa!	[17:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41821 @ 0.00049678 = 20.7758 BTC [+]	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	eur/usd!	[17:16]
Naphex	after some feedback i have cleaned the xotika.tv report some. A revised version is available here: https://xotika.tv/static/report_06102015_v2.html	[17:18]
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assbot	XOtika.TV Statement - 08/06/2015 to 06/10/2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv2DwI )	[17:18]
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mike_c	!rated naphex	[17:19]
assbot	You have not rated naphex.	[17:20]
mike_c	!rate naphex 2 serial btc entrepreneur	[17:20]
assbot	Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/296b3becab046f29	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	super cereal!	[17:20]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: is it domain/avatar.png or /avatar.jpg on your blog for avatars?	[17:22]
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mircea_popescu	you can just source a page you knwo	[17:23]
mike_c	positive cash flow.. looks like a bizness to me	[17:24]
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mircea_popescu	so it does.	[17:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00048403 = 13.5044 BTC [-] {2}	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	seems he hit the ground running, at least sofar.	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	anyway, youtube substitute is certainly needed in teh republic.	[17:27]
mircea_popescu	say Naphex, wouldn't you want to run a server for s.nsa too ?	[17:27]
Naphex	i also have otika.tv domains ready for non adult related content	[17:27]
mircea_popescu	i'll pay the upfront for colo, you just have to do the minimal sysadmining ascii_field might require	[17:27]
Naphex	but it sure as hell needs a lot more capacity	[17:27]
Naphex	and servers and the way to monetizing everything is long	[17:27]
mircea_popescu	one expansion idea would be somnething like a mumble server. but integrated with xotika.	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	somehow. dunno how. but gamers and strippers is the winner combo.	[17:28]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[17:28]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c anyway, willprobably have to yield some of the % which is maybe high atm. but still, i think it has nice perspectives.	[17:29]
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Naphex	mircea_popescu: percentage is right about perfect at the moment; performers adjust the price and tipping is completly voluntary	[17:30]
Naphex	i will be yielding up to 35% based on quarterly performance	[17:31]
mircea_popescu	makes sense	[17:31]
Naphex	or better yet; down too	[17:31]
Naphex	performers have a goal system soon to be objective system they can set up	[17:32]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	say Naphex, wouldn't you want to run a server for s.nsa too ? << ?	[17:33]
Naphex	can do	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	what's your provider quote for a 32gb amd something with ~1tb hdd ?	[17:35]
Naphex	tell me what you need and i can call my rep and sort it out	[17:35]
Naphex	i'll get a quote on that tomorrow	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	danke.	[17:35]
Naphex	i usually buy my own hardware and use that pay per 1U	[17:35]
Naphex	most of their offers are supermicro's but have all sorts	[17:35]
*	mircea_popescu can picture alf jumping up and down	[17:35]
Naphex	i use 2U dells	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	yeah i can see buying the hw and getting 1u or 2u as needed.	[17:35]
Naphex	you can buy the hardware and ship it to the DC	[17:36]
mircea_popescu	really it should fit in 1u i think ?	[17:36]
ascii_field	i've yet to see this kind of thing in 1u	[17:36]
ascii_field	but who knows	[17:36]
mike_c	really? you can fit a lot in 1u these days	[17:36]
mircea_popescu	i thought they mostly fit it in 1u by now.	[17:37]
*	mircea_popescu not an expert.	[17:37]
mike_c	http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816110055	[17:37]
assbot	ASUS RS500A-E6/PS4 1U Rackmount Server Barebone Dual Socket G34 AMD SR5650 DDR3 1600/1333/1066/800 - Newegg.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv3Vb7 )	[17:38]
ascii_field	neato	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	and under the overheard in my house heading, "would you like to taste my pee ?" "sure. but... didn't you just have asparagus ?" "aha" "that's supposed to be the #1 pee ruiner." "oh man, i can actually taste the asparagus wow!" "is it strong ?" "it's pretty strong yeah".	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	i guess tomorrow im having pineapple.	[17:40]
ascii_field	l0l!	[17:41]
ascii_field	next, amanita magic mushroom ?	[17:41]
ascii_field	(expelled unchanged!)	[17:41]
mircea_popescu	im not that into psychoactives.	[17:41]
ascii_field	sure. but asparagus only goes so far..	[17:43]
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mircea_popescu	http://40.media.tumblr.com/ac190b527e8e20d91509f94f9223a734/tumblr_nj0jkzJ4a41u4e2kko1_1280.jpg << transparent is for virgin!	[17:47]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv4B0f )	[17:47]
BingoBoingo	lol https://archive.is/vpCKt	[17:51]
assbot	Bitpay payments not being paid " invalid transaction associated to this invoice as a result of the stress test" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv4VvQ )	[17:51]
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BingoBoingo	So malleability thing going now, excepting retards that do the 0-conf depend on txid... pretty much a mempool bloater	[17:53]
jurov	and it helps exchange rate, it seems	[17:54]
jurov	re:mempool, interesting that stan found out txen are never actually freed (see last S.NSA report)	[17:55]
BingoBoingo	Especially never freed if never mined, because malleable got the other conf'd first	[17:58]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[18:01]
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ascii_field	https://www.hackinparis.com/sites/hackinparis.com/files/lopes_esteves_kasmi_you_dont_hear_me.pdf << lulzy. >> http://dpaste.com/1DV84YN.txt (missing, of course, illustrations)	[18:01]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv5HJd )	[18:01]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv5HJj )	[18:01]
ascii_field	^ in case anyone did not understand that 'voice command' is asinine	[18:02]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293105 << i would like to see some of the folks here independently confirm this discovery.	[18:03]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 20:54:27; jurov: re:mempool, interesting that stan found out txen are never actually freed (see last S.NSA report)	[18:03]
ascii_field	and more people-other-than-me-hacking-on-therealbitcoin in general.	[18:04]
ascii_field	;;seen artifexd	[18:06]
gribble	artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 48 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.	[18:06]
ascii_field	eh.	[18:07]
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BingoBoingo	Half a year in the life	[18:11]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu et al: http://habrahabr.ru/company/mosigra/blog/268211 << user interfaces in china. interesting enough to be worth the work (googletranslate if you must)	[18:12]
assbot	Что я узнал про интерфейсы в реальном мире в Китае / Блог компании Мосигра / Хабрахабр ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv6rOE )	[18:12]
ascii_field	epic mega-treatise.	[18:16]
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trinque	Given that the main problem of the country - to cope with different types of DDoS on the infrastructure due to the large number of users, different solutions are born. For example, the train has a separate toilet and separate washrooms. Excellent TRIZ principle - separation. << thinking about human DDOS... awesome.	[18:25]
ascii_field	re: triz:	[18:26]
ascii_field	!s altshuller	[18:26]
assbot	2 results for 'altshuller' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=altshuller	[18:26]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-05-2014#685942	[18:26]
assbot	Logged on 22-05-2014 17:16:09; asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: 'And Suddenly the Inventor Appeared.' by Genrich Altshuller.	[18:26]
ascii_field	^ mega-scholar	[18:26]
ascii_field	in all seriousness	[18:26]
ascii_field	imho the only man to have ever gotten anywhere studying invention in the abstract.	[18:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00048697 = 9.569 BTC [+]	[18:27]
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trinque	many houses in Portland had that stairstepped portion as on the bridge	[18:32]
trinque	on steep driveways	[18:32]
mod6	sweet, V code is basically complete. one remaining test left to write surrouding 'press' (shouldn't take long), then just documentation to write about the thing.	[18:41]
mod6	almost there :]	[18:41]
ascii_field	mod6: neat!	[18:45]
ascii_field	mod6: what's surrounding-press ?	[18:46]
ascii_field	oh i get it	[18:46]
ascii_field	this is your v-in-perl ?	[18:46]
mod6	yeah. i mean, "cucumber automated test that surrounds (gives coverage to) the press function"	[18:47]
ascii_field	ah	[18:47]
mod6	so that's the only thing left and then just user documentation. and then can start passing around the first version for people to try out to ensure of zero major defects.	[18:48]
ascii_field	mod6: you may end up, like it or not, king of 'v' ! see latest s.nsa broadcast.	[18:48]
mod6	then will publish to th elist.	[18:48]
mod6	I saw your comments in your monthly s.nsa broadcast :)	[18:48]
ascii_field	my only real quibble with the preview of this (or was it punkman's ??) 'v' shown a while back, is that it used interactive questions to user	[18:49]
ascii_field	'v' really needs to be a pure commandline thing	[18:49]
ascii_field	as in, there ought to be no operations which result in prompts	[18:49]
mod6	ah, no this thing doesn't prompt at all. just command line flags. works a lot like your implementation. no caching, etc.	[18:50]
ascii_field	then great.	[18:50]
mod6	one major difference is i'm using Getopt::Long to control user input -- which ends up altering flags instead of 'w' for wot, ends up being '-w' or '--wot' but I think we can get over that.	[18:51]
ascii_field	why does it demand the - ?	[18:51]
mod6	its just how it determines options from values.	[18:51]
mod6	perhaps later, i could rebuild my own or something.	[18:52]
ascii_field	can't just get argv raw ?	[18:52]
mod6	I actually started with this, but .. it got hairy to control some of the input.	[18:52]
mod6	Tried out Getopt::Long and it was able to do what I wanted with much less arm-wrestling.	[18:53]
mod6	Eh, who knows, maybe I can take another wack at that part before I'm finished here.	[18:54]
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BingoBoingo	!t m s.qntr	[18:56]
assbot	[MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00024131 / 0.00028698 / 0.0003036 (750 shares, 0.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00024109 / 0.00033121 / 0.00040884 (78161 shares, 25.89 BTC)	[18:57]
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mod6	ascii_field: so yah, now that the code is pretty much complete, I'll see if I can get rid of getopt::long and elegantly implement the options handling on my own.	[19:10]
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mod6	asciilifeform: yeah, ok - this works just fine now, seems even more clean than getopt::long.	[19:32]
mod6	sweet.	[19:32]
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punkman	http://habrahabr.ru/company/mosigra/blog/268211 << love the winter scooter https://habrastorage.org/files/cb0/236/32e/cb023632e8c64a66b45c2c1ae5e86ca3.jpeg	[19:45]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv6rOE )	[19:45]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1FSwm8n )	[19:45]
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punkman	ascii_field: my only real quibble with the preview of this (or was it punkman's ??) 'v' shown a while back, is that it used interactive questions to user << yeah it can export the patch sequence and you can then press without interaction	[19:47]
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punkman	another possibility is that it'd let you choose multiple heads and then it'd lookup all ascendants of chosen heads and press with those	[19:49]
BingoBoingo	http://dpaste.com/0Y75K2G.txt	[19:49]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Okb7Pc )	[19:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00049403 = 4.9897 BTC [+]	[19:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00049311 = 9.8622 BTC [-]	[20:02]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[20:05]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 246.99, vol: 27730.59016906 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 242.739, vol: 10097.16641 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 247.58, vol: 16982.7753674 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 251.382703, vol: 21700.21620000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 245.88, vol: 79.87407055 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 247.94, vol: 126.26585765 \| Volume-weighted last average: 247.804040843	[20:05]
cazalla	does anyone know what this is? finding many of them on the surface of the garden most mornings, thought i was going crazy at first as i removed a couple but they are popping up everywhere http://i.imgur.com/U5SSbtU.jpg	[20:21]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1jc4hP9 )	[20:21]
BingoBoingo	Any nearby trees?	[20:22]
cazalla	many	[20:22]
cazalla	finding it on top of potted plants too	[20:23]
BingoBoingo	Any of them have shit looking vaguely like that growing on them?	[20:23]
cazalla	not on the trees or plants, just the soil	[20:24]
cazalla	those little brown balls are dry and when broken up seem to spread in the air like a dandelion	[20:24]
BingoBoingo	Gotta be some sort of flower/seed	[20:28]
BingoBoingo	But since australia prolly crazy poisonous	[20:28]
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BingoBoingo	In other news https://archive.is/JeaA0	[20:39]
assbot	Agility - Pembroke Welsh Corgi Puppies-Celestial Star Corgis ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc5w0T )	[20:39]
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BingoBoingo	https://dogsofsf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_23711.jpg	[20:42]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1jc5MNb )	[20:42]
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pete_dushenski	;;later tell mike_c the discrepancy is that of the +/- sign. Strangely, just since last night, the sign indicated in the 'direct' row changed from (-) to () [aka (+)], but the graph line is still red instead of green, as seen here : http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/btcalpha-sign-silliness.png.	[20:47]
gribble	Error: "aka" is not a valid command.	[20:47]
pete_dushenski	also, i know that you can rate in private. sheesh u guise.	[20:47]
assbot	Page not found \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc6c6g )	[20:47]
pete_dushenski	gribble no le gusta square brackets ?	[20:47]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell mike_c the discrepancy is that of the +/- sign. Strangely, just since last night, the sign indicated in the 'direct' row changed from (-) to () (aka (+)), but the graph line is still red instead of green, as seen here : http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/btcalpha-sign-silliness.png.	[20:48]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[20:48]
assbot	Page not found \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc6c6g )	[20:48]
pete_dushenski	hm. guess so. til.	[20:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00049549 = 6.8873 BTC [+]	[20:50]
BingoBoingo	;;grammar gribble has a one all its own	[20:50]
gribble	Error: "grammar" is not a valid command.	[20:50]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292453 << and here i was imaging mp shmoozing with local intelligencia that he'd somehow attracted with a giant magnet from clear across the country, having his girls pour bubbly while the conversation drifted from how one tests for ~actual genuine bohemian glass~ to the best surgeon's stitch for a knife wound in the back to the best source for local huevos to	[20:53]
pete_dushenski	goodness only knows !	[20:53]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 00:23:19; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292365 << lol. i have yet to meet an argentinian that would be qualified to finish highschool. fortunately, online's a thing.	[20:53]
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pete_dushenski	mpoe up 25% overnight. snazzy. hope a few of you caught a piece of the sale ;)	[20:55]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293010 << at least until pr pete shows up. then the lay-low-party's over.	[20:57]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 19:52:02; mircea_popescu: anyway. the advantage of anon & disappeared as opposed to "going to every conference that serves pasta" is that you don't have to face the "i fucking expected better of you" reproach.	[20:57]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: i still think there are thinking folks hidden deep in b-a. ~somebody~ is buying that cnc machinery.	[20:58]
BingoBoingo	I believe in PR pete	[20:58]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293061 << been reading more about gaming marketing. stumbled across popcap games, which reminded me that once upon a time, more than a half-decade ago, i actually played an iOS game for a stretch : plants vs. zombies (tower defense game)	[20:59]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 20:27:24; mircea_popescu: somehow. dunno how. but gamers and strippers is the winner combo.	[20:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54508 @ 0.00049346 = 26.8975 BTC [-]	[21:00]
cazalla	pete_dushenski, that became an ios game at the tail end of its lifetime	[21:00]
pete_dushenski	aha. didn't know that.	[21:00]
pete_dushenski	oh, i guess i also played 'words with friends' but that's really just scrabble, not much of a 'computer game'	[21:01]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform what makes you think anyone is arhentina is buying cnc machinery ?	[21:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47467 @ 0.00049558 = 23.5237 BTC [+] {2}	[21:02]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292987 << makes sense. look at the size of those dividends. cripes.	[21:02]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 19:36:34; mircea_popescu: https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html << speaking of which, plox to give the guy's numbers a good shakedown, because im considering listing xotika this month.	[21:02]
pete_dushenski	impressive work, Naphex !	[21:03]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: i do not know who is buying. but someone is selling...	[21:04]
asciilifeform	uploading photos i snapped personally	[21:05]
asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/a/dUMl6 << just for pete_dushenski	[21:05]
assbot	cnc in buenos aires - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5l2lV )	[21:05]
asciilifeform	both cnc and traditional mills, lathes, in a little shop.	[21:05]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes was standing right next to me when i saw this.	[21:06]
asciilifeform	(and iirc he, unlike i, had even been inside at one time)	[21:06]
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pete_dushenski	perhaps the number of cnc machines for sale in buenos aires is indicative of the lack of thinking folks there ?	[21:08]
asciilifeform	..?	[21:08]
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pete_dushenski	that they're still for sale.	[21:08]
pete_dushenski	and not in someone's shop or home laboratory	[21:09]
asciilifeform	unless the whole thing is a front, someone is buying	[21:09]
BingoBoingo	http://38.media.tumblr.com/35e1b1e12513589ed42d9ffafcef809e/tumblr_inline_mssdnoHyyg1qz4rgp.gif	[21:09]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform because why ? like arhentina has an economy or something ?	[21:09]
pete_dushenski	sounds to me like it's 100% posturing that no estan pobres	[21:10]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: presumably the shop keeper pays rent	[21:10]
asciilifeform	with... money	[21:10]
pete_dushenski	and he draws in customers into his store with cnc machines in the front window	[21:10]
asciilifeform	and what, cuts them up for organs ?	[21:11]
pete_dushenski	like putting a bugatti veyron in the window of sachs fifth avenue	[21:11]
pete_dushenski	no one buys, many coo and gawk and maybe even walk in to buy some perfume	[21:11]
asciilifeform	perfume?!	[21:11]
asciilifeform	i saw a drum of cutting lube	[21:12]
pete_dushenski	at sachs, yes.	[21:12]
asciilifeform	i suppose for some - perfume.	[21:12]
pete_dushenski	lol	[21:12]
pete_dushenski	not much for shopping are ya ?	[21:12]
asciilifeform	i usually get things mailed in	[21:12]
pete_dushenski	i guess without ebay and paypal you'd be swimming in dough	[21:12]
asciilifeform	but once in a while i go to a shop.	[21:12]
BingoBoingo	no one buys, many coo and gawk and maybe even walk in to buy some perfume << TrueFax, brother and his wife got their newest corgi AT A DISCOUNT because it had the "fluffy" mutation	[21:13]
pete_dushenski	fluffy corgi ? got a pic ?	[21:13]
asciilifeform	most recently, went into one that had gps-guided gigantic quadrocopters for sale. at ~1300 usd a pop, even. funnily, they sell. and idiots fly them into various 'forbidden zones' like whitehouse, etc.	[21:13]
asciilifeform	(the costly machines fly themselves, luser points and grunts on his ipNohe to give coordinates)	[21:14]
asciilifeform	(for anyone unfamiliar with the subject - serious multicopter aficionados sneer at luserdom, and build strictly from parts)	[21:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22759 @ 0.00049346 = 11.2307 BTC [-]	[21:15]
pete_dushenski	hell, copter's cheaper than ipNohe (top end)	[21:15]
BingoBoingo	fluffy corgi ? got a pic ? << Challenge because of few good options to move pics from turdopnoHe to Interwebs since Imgur app went retarded	[21:15]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: wai wut?!	[21:15]
asciilifeform	which pnohe costs >1300 usd ?	[21:15]
pete_dushenski	the top end one.	[21:16]
pete_dushenski	ah, maybe cad...	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	also http://40.media.tumblr.com/16986e3f1aecae232080886cabe25214/tumblr_ni8rodg7Ww1u4e2kko1_1280.jpg	[21:16]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1jc8h2c )	[21:16]
pete_dushenski	bit of a ding on cad/usd of late.	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293103 << been going for like... 2 days ? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-10-2015#1291963	[21:17]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 20:52:06; BingoBoingo: So malleability thing going now, excepting retards that do the 0-conf depend on txid... pretty much a mempool bloater	[21:17]
assbot	Logged on 05-10-2015 05:59:13; assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 17:49:14; mircea_popescu: check out bizarro tx rewriting. i issued fca843c0b40a1755eee073a719c856baa7fbf5ac28db84804a44a91f52638632 which worked as expected, but apparently there's a 5269a0e862876040db21706a7849ffd1b7d63e72d6dd61b1d2431a51698bb007 restatement of it	[21:17]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: current quote is ~1k usd for the fattest one from apple	[21:17]
asciilifeform	go, buy.	[21:17]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: A bit longer http://qntra.net/2015/10/malleability-issues-continue-testing-zero-conf-faithful/	[21:17]
assbot	Malleability Issues Continue Testing Zero-conf Faithful \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc8mmp )	[21:17]
mircea_popescu	right	[21:17]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293111 << say wut alf ?	[21:18]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform plus extended warranty plus dock plus case plus plus plus. this is all sop.	[21:18]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 21:01:44; ascii_field: ^ in case anyone did not understand that 'voice command' is asinine	[21:18]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: try walking into a room of gadget collectors, and say 'OK google, delete all...'	[21:18]
BingoBoingo	Not much longer, but long enough for Derpanies to latch onto Derp hosted wallet's engineering error to make excuses for themselves	[21:18]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: then watch their faces	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	!up iinaj	[21:18]
-assbot-	You voiced iinaj for 30 minutes.	[21:18]
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asciilifeform	(i do not know in which languages this feature works today, but english world is awash in it)	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform must be they put something in my coffee. wut ?!	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	voicecommand as in, !v ? and google delete what ? items ?	[21:19]
asciilifeform	nono	[21:19]
asciilifeform	link concerned an article regarding voice-controlled gadgets	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	oh oh	[21:20]
asciilifeform	which can be, it turns out, 'commanded' remotely via strategically-shaped radio signal - which gets heterodyned in the headphones	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	yeah i totally wanna see 6 axis 1mw robot arms controlled by voice.	[21:20]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform plus extended warranty plus dock plus case plus plus plus. this is all sop. << No one I know with iPNohes paid for them, teh_ girlfriendz (or their dads did	[21:20]
asciilifeform	(typically it is a pNohe)	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	"i didn't say pound me into pate, i said bring tea to pete!"	[21:20]
pete_dushenski	egyptian licorice tea, if you please	[21:21]
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asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: normally in usa the telco pays (in exchange for an indenture lock-in chumping)	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	they DO have various girl submission devices that are intended to be phone controlled.	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	butterflies and whatnot.	[21:22]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Not anymore, financing plan is new SOP	[21:22]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: with 'bluetooth' receivers even.	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[21:22]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: i think this was in the log	[21:22]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: rental thing	[21:22]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo in usistan, home of the brave leasees, only	[21:22]
asciilifeform	(why? i've no idea)	[21:22]
asciilifeform	who rents a $1k gadget ?	[21:23]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Not rental, as of earlier this year loan, just like for car	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293144 << i dunno about that, guy's already king of a vast domain.	[21:23]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 21:47:00; ascii_field: mod6: you may end up, like it or not, king of 'v' ! see latest s.nsa broadcast.	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	more kings needed.	[21:23]
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asciilifeform	i mean, i'd rent an excavator, say, if i only wanted it for a day	[21:23]
asciilifeform	but rent phone ?	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform do i need to link you to the article delineating fucking organizers bought on time ?	[21:23]
asciilifeform	throwback to pre-at&t breakup..	[21:23]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: that was in egypt iirc ?	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	buenos aires, same thing.	[21:24]
asciilifeform	i suppose gringolandia is now a kind of egyptertina	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	it's actually remarkably close to where egypt was, pre us/saudi split and the entire nonsense since 2000s.	[21:25]
asciilifeform	(phun phakt: lucent corp. still brings in $20M/yr or so... renting out rotary phones. caveat is that this figure is a few yrs old, and a substantial number of the chumps are likely to have succumbed to old age since it was last published)	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	cairo, 50% of population, ba 50% of population. nonsensical govt, nonsensical govt ; very mentally stunted population that excels at menial, labour intensive tasks ; overblown palace bureaucracy, the entire works.	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	only difference is the egyptian chicks fuck more intensively while the argentines look better. but...	[21:26]
asciilifeform	as in all orcish lands ?	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	i dunno. ukrs nothing like that.	[21:26]
asciilifeform	~which~ ukrs ?	[21:27]
asciilifeform	(true ukrs, or east ?)	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	true ukrs	[21:28]
*	asciilifeform knows these folks largely secondhand	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	it's "colonies where the indigents weren't massacred". mexico, egypt, you name it.	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	heck, even china, at leastoriginally.	[21:29]
asciilifeform	india	[21:30]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: imgur.com/sG5TJMb << New one is one the left, smaller dog 14 weeks of age	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski you clink it. has a very speciffic sound.	[21:30]
asciilifeform	incidentally (and if ben_vulpes were awake he might explain) lead is often added to other substances, not only glass, to ease machining	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	certainly leaded glass is a better blow.	[21:32]
asciilifeform	e.g., 'free machining steel' used by prototype makers is often leaded	[21:32]
asciilifeform	better ~cut~	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	that also.	[21:32]
asciilifeform	(that was the original point of throwing in the pb)	[21:32]
asciilifeform	it is a lubricant.	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	i thought much better friability.	[21:32]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: http://imgur.com/sWn4jBs << More detail	[21:32]
assbot	Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5mGnm )	[21:32]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo dog's as fluffy as the rug. thankfully, not as green.	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	was the original point	[21:32]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Indeed	[21:33]
asciilifeform	dogue!	[21:33]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu aha. neat !	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293212 <<< yeah. somebody looking for a clothes hanger.	[21:33]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 23:57:38; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i still think there are thinking folks hidden deep in b-a. ~somebody~ is buying that cnc machinery.	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293217 << i fucking love tower defense.	[21:34]
assbot	Logged on 06-10-2015 23:59:24; cazalla: pete_dushenski, that became an ios game at the tail end of its lifetime	[21:34]
asciilifeform	and this is where we learn that mircea_popescu cnc-machines his hangers from beryllium copper	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	in fact, i intend to have a td minigame added as an eulora activity eventually.	[21:34]
*	BingoBoingo will try to bring better, actual camera next time. Smaller Dog's name is Beans. The larger dog is Frank. Both have short legs.	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform one's gotta do what one's gotta do when running out of perky nips.	[21:35]
BingoBoingo	in fact, i intend to have a td minigame added as an eulora activity eventually. << Before or after Lich's are implemented as a thing to become	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	prolly before.	[21:35]
BingoBoingo	But then who holds the towers?	[21:35]
mod6	asciilifeform: ya, you were right... got nice looking option control now with only @ARGV. not sure what my malfunction was before.	[21:36]
asciilifeform	neato mod6 !	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	nah, it's a minigame see. something like, you build the case for it, place it in the world, then people use it like a sort of arcade.	[21:36]
BingoBoingo	Ah	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	and you make money from it, and so on.	[21:37]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293310 << my point was that i no longer see a point in maintaining my original 'v' - mod6 has a considerably spiffier one, which ought to be the flagship	[21:37]
assbot	Logged on 07-10-2015 00:22:14; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293144 << i dunno about that, guy's already king of a vast domain.	[21:37]
asciilifeform	mine was more of a proof of concept / motorized spec	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	yes, he's competent. there is however such a thing as competence choking.	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	it even has king in it	[21:38]
asciilifeform	wai wut	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	you know, when the best looking guy ends up with all the women.	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	very little fucking and even less conceiving is done as a result.	[21:40]
asciilifeform	hey it works for walrus	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	i suppose.	[21:41]
asciilifeform	anyway, i'm kinda trying to de-walrus self, by pawning chore onto other fellas	[21:42]
asciilifeform	and it is working!	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	hehe. cool, but i also want total walrus factor to go down!	[21:42]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293363 << like in spelunx ! (mega-classic)	[21:43]
assbot	Logged on 07-10-2015 00:35:19; mircea_popescu: nah, it's a minigame see. something like, you build the case for it, place it in the world, then people use it like a sort of arcade.	[21:43]
asciilifeform	now all i need is for somebody to take mapTransactions / CTransaction from me...	[21:44]
pete_dushenski	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqNJCgnohWE << these sounds bring back memories.	[21:44]
assbot	Spelunx and the Caves of Mr. Seudo - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5ndG6 )	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	i also want soul hunter thing as a minigame, and a genetics thing, and a few others. the minigame portion of eulora is gonna be pretty spiffy, really. huge gameplay thing, but i don't really see it happening before 2017..	[21:44]
asciilifeform	no need for book learnin' - just read the src 'for six months'	[21:45]
pete_dushenski	tuesday night : time to go sing my little heart out. cheers !	[21:45]
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danielpbarron	mircea_popescu, what tower defense did you play? I know of it from starcraft	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	oh tons. iirc there's even an article	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	https://www.google.com/search?q=site:trilema.com+tower+defense&complete=0&ncr=1 << five or so as it turns out	[21:47]
assbot	site:trilema.com tower defense - Recherche Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5npVC )	[21:47]
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asciilifeform	re: gamez: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1f3gYeiHBQ << apparently this exists.	[21:49]
assbot	Prison Architect v1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5nvNe )	[21:49]
BingoBoingo	anyway, i'm kinda trying to de-walrus self, by pawning chore onto other fellas << Qntra struggles with this if any lurkers want a chance to get work done in #b-a wotlandia	[21:49]
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asciilifeform	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-DOViwa-q4 << moar	[21:51]
assbot	Prison Architect Alpha 36 - the FINAL ALPHA - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5nBUY )	[21:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00049346 = 6.0202 BTC [-]	[21:52]
asciilifeform	'Two people died on the first day of my prison. The solitary was always full, most prisoners were shackled in their cells and a weeaboo legendary prisoner kept breaking out and killing my guards.. On the fourth day, said weeaboo broke through a double-layer solitary cell and stole a shotgun from an armoury. He lit the prison on fire and escaped. That's what I call a good prison.' << l0l	[21:52]
asciilifeform	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re7ev-hQ8c0	[21:54]
assbot	Prison Architect - One man micro-prison - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5nI2Y )	[21:54]
*	asciilifeform distinctly recalls 'sim-auschwitz' from 1990s, there were scandalous wanks in american media about it, but this is something new	[21:54]
danielpbarron	that steampunk thing doesn't look like what I have played. To me, "tower defence" means building a maze of turrets to control the flow of progressively beefier monsters, the goal being to kill them all before the get through	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	quite, yes.	[21:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19033 @ 0.00049346 = 9.392 BTC [-]	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	that's what it means in general.	[21:56]
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asciilifeform	the 'prison' thing is also a tower defense	[21:56]
asciilifeform	but, lulzily, from... inside	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:56]
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danielpbarron	warcraft3 had a neat variation, "island defence," in which there is one monster and he is controlled by a human player, and joined by defeated defenders	[21:58]
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mircea_popescu	danielpbarron http://trilema.com/paid-content/2010/azgardtd.swf << can try that one mebbe. i never managed to get past l ~50 or so.	[22:00]
assbot	Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5o9Kv )	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	awshit.	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	;;google azgard tower defense	[22:01]
asciilifeform	l0l swf	[22:01]
gribble	Azgard Tower Defense - Free online games at Agame.com: ; Azgard Tower Defense Game Online - Best Flash Games: ; Azgard Defence @ Play Tower Defense Games:	[22:01]
danielpbarron	if eulora's to have minigames like TD, I recommend Dota	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	that's a DIFFERENT thing.	[22:02]
asciilifeform	http://qntra.net/2015/10/vessenes-foundation-drops-sponsorship-of-node-explorer/#comment-63937 << l0l!	[22:03]
assbot	Vessenes' Foundation Drops Sponsorship of Node Explorer \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KX2xSS )	[22:03]
asciilifeform	but is this 'shakespeare, or another man by that name' ?!	[22:03]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Appears to credibly be that man to the point it can be verified without strong signatures	[22:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39456 @ 0.00048869 = 19.2818 BTC [-]	[22:08]
deedbot-	[Trilema] MPEx (S.MPOE) September 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/mpex-smpoe-september-2015-statement/	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	"While the press support and relationships established can benefit your game, a lot of companies have “won” E3 and vanished shortly thereafter."	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	and by a lot we mean to say.... pretty much all.	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	heck, bitpay won the what was it, indy race ?	[22:09]
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deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Federal Reserve will raise federal funds rate October FOMC meeting - http://bitbet.us/bet/1201/federal-reserve-will-raise-federal-funds-rate-october/#b13	[22:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39600 @ 0.00048711 = 19.2896 BTC [-] {3}	[22:16]
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deedbot-	[Qntra] Fiat Broker Broker Scottrade Hacked - http://qntra.net/2015/10/fiat-broker-broker-scottrade-hacked/	[22:24]
mike_c	;;later tell pete_dushenski the graph is likely just cached in your browser. press f5.	[22:25]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[22:25]
BingoBoingo	^ Fiat GLBSE got Owned apparently	[22:25]
mike_c	and yes, i could put a cache buster on that.. i'll put it on the todo	[22:25]
BingoBoingo	What if on my machine F5 doesn't mean "reload" but instead "re-load"	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	that's a decent amount of broker.	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	mike_c prolly just set the ttl on the pic	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	Information publicly disclosed on the Scottrade breech << lulzy, but breach.	[22:31]
BingoBoingo	Fuck, again	[22:34]
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BingoBoingo	Fxd	[22:36]
phf	asciilifeform: now all i need is for somebody to take mapTransactions / CTransaction from me... << i started investigating the issue a while ago, but dropped it since wasn't sure if it was the highest priority. i've been traveling, but i'll get back to it. i don't see any reason it can't be resolved. i'm not claiming territory, but unless someone more compotent decides to take over you can consider me	[22:36]
phf	responsible for the issue.	[22:36]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293308 <<< rent to buy ipad scam is popular here	[22:36]
assbot	Logged on 07-10-2015 00:21:52; asciilifeform: who rents a $1k gadget ?	[22:36]
cazalla	https://www.radio-rentals.com.au/apple/ipad	[22:37]
assbot	IPad Rental \| Rent to Own \| Radio Rentals ... ( http://bit.ly/1j65qab )	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	phf this is a non-competence blocking issue. it doesn't matter how competent or credentialed you are,code in question will be reviewed anyway.	[22:37]
cazalla	even comes with free installation https://www.radio-rentals.com.au/apple/iphone/apple-iphone-5-16gb	[22:38]
assbot	Rent IPhone 5S 16Gb IPhone \| Rent to Own \| Radio Rentals ... ( http://bit.ly/1j65Ddu )	[22:38]
BingoBoingo	phf: Pls take it. I've been waiting to fuck something of this sort on my 0.7-ish tree.	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	and in general, two types of problems. 1. "build me a bridge" ; 2. "find me the leak". 1 is blocking, but 2 isn't - if a baby goat finds the leak the leak's just as found as if jesus had found it.	[22:39]
*	BingoBoingo hates C the more I play with TI-92	[22:40]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293321 <<< i use to work for main telco doing cust service.. not uncommon to find little old lady with 2 or 3 rotary phone rentals attached to account for years on end.. sometimes little old ladies had wireless, cable and dsl connections because some indian fuck sold her on the idea so he could get the commission	[22:40]
assbot	Logged on 07-10-2015 00:24:22; asciilifeform: (phun phakt: lucent corp. still brings in $20M/yr or so... renting out rotary phones. caveat is that this figure is a few yrs old, and a substantial number of the chumps are likely to have succumbed to old age since it was last published)	[22:40]
thestringpuller	the TI-92 uses C?	[22:41]
BingoBoingo	TI-92 is the Corgi/Manul/PampasCat of the computing world. The more you play with it, the less you can stand other...	[22:41]
phf	aight	[22:41]
BingoBoingo	thestringpuller: You can program in TI-BASIC shit or ASM. Sure, you can compile ASM from C, but might as well derpot in basic then.	[22:42]
BingoBoingo	Also far more fun than real macs and the TI-89 because useful default software and full keyboard.	[22:43]
BingoBoingo	https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/ << No longer Favorite.	[22:43]
assbot	BitBet - Jeb Bush will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 1.03 B (47%) on Yes, 1.15 B (53%) on No \| closing in 6 months 2 weeks \| weight: 95`342 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwPbF )	[22:43]
BingoBoingo	https://bitbet.us/bet/1205/marco-rubio-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/ << By BitBet Rubio clearly the Repube nominee	[22:44]
assbot	BitBet - Marco Rubio will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 0.54 B (63%) on Yes, 0.32 B (37%) on No \| closing in 6 months 1 week\| weight: 93`543 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwMN1 )	[22:44]
BingoBoingo	No longer Jeb and Rubio as co-favorites. Rubio is now clear nominee.	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:46]
BingoBoingo	Or should I stahp keeping a consistent BitBet payout address because my latest experiment in that scares people https://bitbet.us/stats/14BqjpHAeM2EC6aJkrzM7cbTeePQCJJs5C/	[22:46]
assbot	BitBet Stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1KK06Tn )	[22:46]
BingoBoingo	Seriously though, even when not loading weird on it TI-92 is a great desk calculator.	[22:47]
thestringpuller	asciilifeform: https://github.com/hmlb/phpunit-vw <<	[22:47]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: https://github.com/hmlb/phpunit-vw << NO thestringpuller. Better avanues for diddling exist	[22:49]
assbot	hmlb/phpunit-vw · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1j67cbs )	[22:49]
*	BingoBoingo proposes Illinois emissions test challenge. Illinois emissions test depends entirely on OBD-II output. Make a vehicle pass while plainly emitting clouds of soot.	[22:50]
mircea_popescu	if anyone's sickly curious, here's a rather typical ro court proceeding : http://infodosar.ro/d.php?dosar=4089/105/2015&submit=Cauta	[22:53]
assbot	InfoDosar 4089/105/2015 \| Tribunalul Prahova ... ( http://bit.ly/1j67S0C )	[22:53]
BingoBoingo	In other news I had a jury duty summons this week. Passed over every day. Today was told my service is complete.	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	guy was trading pot, had 5 grams + ~1k$ confiscated, 2 years in prison for trading, 6 months for possession, suspended sentence.	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	more interestingly, whole shebang's online.	[22:54]
BingoBoingo	Fiatlandia is getting desperate. Making examples and skipping over "burn it all" weirdos.	[22:55]
thestringpuller	2 years for 5 grams? RO is lenient as fuck.	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	2 years was for dealing.	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	6 months.	[22:56]
thestringpuller	WID charge here is like 10 years min	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, first offense, so he serves no jail time. has to show up monthly to probation officer.	[22:56]
BingoBoingo	2 years for 5 grams? RO is lenient as fuck. << Illinois would plea that out	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	romania does not admit plea bargains.	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	in fact, romania disbars das if shown they tried to taint the trial, which is what plea bargain would be in sane places.	[22:57]
BingoBoingo	Acquaintance who FUCKING ROBBED A BANK will prolly finish probation before I even get an evidentiary hearing	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo that's the importance of massmarket for you. he did something that's mainstream	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	not weird fucking offences that scarcely even exist.	[22:57]
BingoBoingo	Sure his parole should be revoked for his latest incident of IDENTITY FUCKING THEFT, but	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	can you even get pot in smaller chunks than 5 grams ?	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	sixth of a fucking ounce ?	[22:59]
BingoBoingo	Anyways aparently in the USistan no matter where you are, if your parents ahve affairs with the right other people's parents...	[23:00]
BingoBoingo	sixth of a fucking ounce ? << yes	[23:00]
BingoBoingo	can you even get pot in smaller chunks than 5 grams ? << In a collegiate environment last I heard people traded pot in single grams if it did not smell of dogshit.	[23:00]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: the high schoolers usually buy per joint cause they don't know any better	[23:00]
thestringpuller	unless they are super rich kids and parents do drugs /w kids etc.	[23:01]
BingoBoingo	Sure people preferred trading bigger.	[23:01]
BingoBoingo	Trading smaller was a sure sign of a bust though.	[23:01]
thestringpuller	ANything over an ounce here (Georgia) is a felony.	[23:02]
BingoBoingo	Trying to force small trades was how people politely let everyone else know they were compelled to turn state's witness	[23:02]
thestringpuller	^- Or the sign of a d00d just trying to smoke for free.	[23:04]
thestringpuller	BingoBoingo: I thought bank robbery was an instafelony too. How does one get probation fro that? Returned the money?	[23:05]
BingoBoingo	thestringpuller: He was/is a white hamplanet with an enabling family.	[23:07]
BingoBoingo	ACTION remembers this time back in undergrad at McKendree where in his freshman year this M named chick got busted for peddling weed to this Jim Chronister motherfucker (actual name because informants suck). Turn out Jim Chronister made a deal with the local 5-0. People assumed on campus I smoked weed so he tried to buy from me. Given his reputation I sold Jim the finest handrolled cigarettes filled with great Turkish rolling tobac	[23:12]
BingoBoingo	Jimmy boy was pissed, but then I informed him the "weed" in his spliffs was literal shit.	[23:13]
BingoBoingo	Jimmy boy was really pissed.	[23:13]
phf	selling jenkem i see, that's 5 to 10	[23:14]
BingoBoingo	Big Negro Savior though came out from the bushes an grabbed Jimmy when he popped me in the Jaw. Jimmy was missing the rest of the semester. Apparently he transfered.	[23:15]
BingoBoingo	Moral of the story, On 'Murican campuses if at all possible you make friends with the foozball team.	[23:16]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293448 << here i must disappoint BingoBoingo. iirc the mechanism was changed, cardinally, in 0.7 and up. any work concerning leakage, involving these ancient abominations is inapplicable to therealbitcoin.	[23:17]
assbot	Logged on 07-10-2015 01:37:25; BingoBoingo: phf: Pls take it. I've been waiting to fuck something of this sort on my 0.7-ish tree.	[23:17]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293449 << we actually have a 'type 1' problem here. i already found the leak. (it consists, roughly, of the vessel having no bottom to speak of!)	[23:18]
assbot	Logged on 07-10-2015 01:38:05; mircea_popescu: and in general, two types of problems. 1. "build me a bridge" ; 2. "find me the leak". 1 is blocking, but 2 isn't - if a baby goat finds the leak the leak's just as found as if jesus had found it.	[23:18]
asciilifeform	what remains is to build the vessel a bottom...	[23:18]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: As far as I know parts were changed, but I suck at CplusCock+ so I have to assume improvements would be open to trial.	[23:18]
*	assbot gives voice to funkenstein_	[23:18]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: the particular moving part in question was replaced by something unlike.	[23:18]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293467 << wat	[23:20]
assbot	Logged on 07-10-2015 01:46:45; thestringpuller: asciilifeform: https://github.com/hmlb/phpunit-vw <<	[23:20]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Many things patched in 0.5.4 candidate were patched by unlike yet have adaptable fixes. Waiting on that plug to be patched before publishing next 0.7.x bastardo codebase	[23:20]
*	asciilifeform is innocent of php. and of unit tests..	[23:20]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: there is a reason i gave up on backports. but i suppose you will discover it by yourself.	[23:21]
*	BingoBoingo ignorant of machine. Only understands patches by forcing them on to wildly differing codebases like 0.7-ish	[23:21]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Backports suck.	[23:21]
BingoBoingo	Honestly I like the work	[23:21]
funkenstein_	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293477 <-- i know of no better example of worldwide bowing to empire than adoption of dupont's great solution to the "hemp problem"	[23:22]
assbot	Logged on 07-10-2015 01:54:45; thestringpuller: 2 years for 5 grams? RO is lenient as fuck.	[23:22]
asciilifeform	yes, but it is not clear to me, from here, what BingoBoingo thinks he is learning from 0.7...	[23:22]
BingoBoingo	The orphanage twins were great exercise	[23:22]
phf	asciilifeform: your original analysis was that std::array (or was it boost) failed to release memory when prompted. seems like can either figure out how to prompt it harder, or substitute a structure. my other guess is that refs to same transactions are kept elsewhere, so are not actually release on clear, i haven't investigated that option yet though.	[23:22]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: C-ish language is being learned, I think. If not that surely something else	[23:22]
asciilifeform	funkenstein_: which is why i say to mircea_popescu, 'usg is dead when you can tell me what country to visit where cocaine is sold next to soap for a penny a pound'	[23:22]
asciilifeform	phf: substantially trickier	[23:23]
funkenstein_	booyeah I like that	[23:23]
asciilifeform	phf: i can force it just fine. this leads to immediate segfault because all kinds of structures continue to refer to the tx.	[23:23]
phf	asciilifeform: right	[23:23]
asciilifeform	you will end up substituting virtually everything. which is what the phoundation folks did.	[23:24]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: 0.7-ish codebase radically different from 0.5-ish. It isn't until 0.8's pretend BDB abandonment that things get alien	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform srsly, nobody sane sells drugs.	[23:24]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: nobody sane sells soda pop either	[23:24]
asciilifeform	it is a barometer.	[23:24]
asciilifeform	i do not actually ~need the dope personally~	[23:24]
asciilifeform	it's just this device that tells me that usg is still alive and strong.	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller: He was/is a white hamplanet with an enabling family. <<< what the fuck, hamplanet robbery ?	[23:25]
BingoBoingo	it's just this device that tells me that usg is still alive and strong. << USSRia hates Drugs too	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	what was his getaway car, the arianne ?	[23:25]
phf	asciilifeform: so you're saying a rewrite of the whole chunk is required? also do you think a careful inventory of references with cleanup of corresponding tree a doable approach?	[23:25]
BingoBoingo	what was his getaway car, the arianne ? << Chrysler PT Cruiser his girlfriend owned (yes owned, evidence)	[23:26]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: today. largely because dope (and the only dope that ever really caught on in su was meth & heroin) is seen as a popcontrol weapon of the west	[23:26]
asciilifeform	phf: a rewrite of the whole thing is required. and was, from day 1. and this is where we get to the boojum - apparently nobody wants this.	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i wouldn't sell cocaine either, at any rate not differently freom how it's done now, at which point you'd saysomething liek "mp is nao usg" and i'd hit you in the head with a six kg single crystal metaphetamine hammer.	[23:26]
BingoBoingo	thestringpuller: He was/is a white hamplanet with an enabling family. <<< what the fuck, hamplanet robbery ? (We joked before he ran away to Chicago that he robbed the bank with a sandwich, but no. Small town bank with limited highways)	[23:26]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: 'not sell' != 'shoot people for selling'	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	depends on the people.	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	as always with th eshooting.	[23:27]
asciilifeform	'shoot people for being asshats' is one thing	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	some people i'd shoot for crossing the street.	[23:27]
asciilifeform	'war on substances' - other	[23:27]
asciilifeform	aha!	[23:27]
asciilifeform	'where they cut off your lips if they don't like your smile....!' (tm) (r) (disney)	[23:27]
*	BingoBoingo has always like weirdo idea of selling cocaine chewing gum	[23:28]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: as i understand, coca is own chewing gum..	[23:28]
trinque	I don't really see much difference between that one and caffeine	[23:28]
funkenstein_	you can get benzocaine gum, basically the same thing	[23:28]
asciilifeform	ick	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	cocaine is supposed to be this rite of passage for the more fit teenaged girl,	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	elope, snort, do other things of the sort.	[23:28]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: But that is leaf amenable to further processing. Best lock the active into another wax for the posturing.	[23:28]
trinque	it's quite popular in pdx	[23:29]
phf	i heard it's a hell of a drug	[23:29]
asciilifeform	thing is, dope in usg (and 'international treaties' as they presently exist are ~pure~ usgtronics) is not about dope, but about empire. if tomorrow no one wanted to snort coke, something else (can you say warez?) takes its place as excuse to feed standing army of stormtroopers	[23:30]
BingoBoingo	Cocaine's great hazard is not in itself. It is in people feel cheated, violence cycle.	[23:30]
funkenstein_	might be compared to the debeers empire as well	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform iirc you wanted ppl to check and confirm.	[23:30]
trinque	I think the addictive aspects of cocaine vary wildly person to person	[23:31]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: yes	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	funkenstein_ fwiw, pot was A LOT more illegal in romania back when it was an "unalligned nation"	[23:32]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: as a start	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	also pot is not quite hemp.	[23:32]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: who smoked pot when ro was 'unaligned' ?	[23:32]
funkenstein_	was this before the dupont campaign?	[23:32]
asciilifeform	it is hemp in approximately the same sense that a chihuahua is a wolf	[23:33]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform srsly, dope conventionslong predate usg.	[23:34]
mircea_popescu	trinque cocaine is not addictive.	[23:34]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: sure. usg did not build on empty space	[23:34]
trinque	mircea_popescu: doesn't seem to me that it is	[23:34]
trinque	always wondered wtf people meant in re: that	[23:34]
asciilifeform	but the uniform prohibition on every conceivable thing that diddles neurons, ~is~ an organized usgism	[23:34]
funkenstein_	stuff goes for a few bucks a gram in colombia ascii.. and considered standard fare for teenage kids by conservative parents	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	mircea_popescu: who smoked pot when ro was 'unaligned' ? << literally nobody. cops had no fucking idea what it smelled like, even. i don't mean "some". i mean you couldn't find a beat cop that did.	[23:35]
asciilifeform	so banned because 'wtf, deviant'	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	was this before the dupont campaign? << specific sino-soviet relations point. 70s.	[23:35]
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funkenstein_	The "jack herer" street story is that dupont orchestrated worldwide ban on hemp to pursue synthetic fiber business	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	no, banned because it negatively affects school performance.	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	which it does, and which romania is still in a position to very acutely measure.	[23:36]
phf	trinque: "psychological addiction" i.e. combination of poor impulse control and boredom, that turns into compulsive behavior	[23:37]
funkenstein_	meanwhile other parties pursued a ban on colombian exports and secured the borders as well as supply lines	[23:37]
BingoBoingo	it is hemp in approximately the same sense that a chihuahua is a wolf << /me thinks great eventual colonization project would be Coyogi's	[23:37]
BingoBoingo	trinque cocaine is not addictive. << Not even as much as nicotine	[23:37]
mircea_popescu	phf sure. like, you know, vidya.	[23:38]
trinque	BingoBoingo: and hell I quit cigs	[23:38]
phf	completely	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	online pron. political discussions. you name it	[23:38]
trinque	I know a few chicks that have the cocaine "addiction" and they just strike me as weak	[23:38]
trinque	phf: yep	[23:38]
BingoBoingo	trinque: "psychological addiction" i.e. combination of poor impulse control and boredom, that turns into compulsive behavior << This creates Hamplanets. Exact same feedback loop, but subb McDick's	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	all the "cocaine addicted" chicks i ever knew were in it principally for the cock.	[23:38]
phf	oy true, it's good to have some with you at a stripclub	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	secondarily for the shoes and etc. people who can afford a bowl can usually afford whatever else teen might think she wants.	[23:39]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo: and hell I quit cigs << My vague memories of cocain are it feeling good, but not "getting a blowjob" good. Basically a wash	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	it does serve the role of honest signal exceedingly well.	[23:40]
BingoBoingo	The "jack herer" street story is that dupont orchestrated worldwide ban on hemp to pursue synthetic fiber business << ANd G-13 story involves MK-Ultra	[23:41]
funkenstein_	BingoBoingo, well I'm not sure about that but "scholars argue that the goal was to destroy the hemp industry largely as an effort of Hearst, Andrew Mellon and the Du Pont family."	[23:43]
*	BingoBoingo doubts lizards exist because more drugs would allow more potential lizards to be disqualified from their scales	[23:44]
*	trinque sheds a single tear for the supreme weed of the pacnw	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	funkenstein_ and dja believe that ?	[23:44]
BingoBoingo	funkenstein_: Seriously what the fuck is Dupont compared to Monsanto	[23:44]
funkenstein_	I have seen reason to believe it yes	[23:44]
funkenstein_	show me, next to the soap, industrial hemp	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	how come the hemp industry didn't band together to destroy rayon ?	[23:45]
funkenstein_	you weren't there to lead them	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	i wasn't there to lead the other idiots either.	[23:45]
funkenstein_	somebody pays of a sycophantic congressional body. happens all the time.	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	seems, from a purely theoretical perspective, that if the orcs beat the humans, it's likely the humans sucked in some respect.	[23:45]
funkenstein_	well yeah, i'm not saying hemp businessmen did a great job	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	sure pays off happens. but why did the inferior side prevail ? didn't the better industry have more money ?	[23:46]
BingoBoingo	In other news Gawker Media can't feed their writers without coupons from people the "Oh,So Hate"	[23:46]
BingoBoingo	https://archive.is/tpi4a	[23:46]
assbot	A Southern-Fried Sleepover at New York’s First Chick-Fil-A, Or How I Won a Year’s Supply of Chicken ... ( http://bit.ly/1FW2t6L )	[23:46]
BingoBoingo	show me, next to the soap, industrial hemp << Soy	[23:46]
funkenstein_	the industry with ties to fiat, not the better one, won at that time	[23:46]
trinque	weed and other drugs were much more likely banned because the people (in the US, probably elsewhere) were ignorant and equated altered mental states with tha debil	[23:46]
trinque	and if somebody took advantage of that, sure	[23:47]
funkenstein_	trinque i doubt it. nobody really cares if some people go mess up their minds	[23:47]
funkenstein_	look at tv for example or alcohol	[23:47]
trinque	1950s american culture was entirely opposed to weird of all kinds	[23:48]
BingoBoingo	Soy won in the US because it actually grows like a weed and it estrogens bind to its proteins emasculating a dependant hog population at the expense of making them... Hammy and Planety	[23:48]
BingoBoingo	Even Ayn Rand ranted about the evils of soy	[23:48]
trinque	maybe she should've tried eating some to feminize herself a bit more	[23:49]
trinque	that face...	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	funkenstein_ how did hemp not have ties ?	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	shit, half the fucking thing was making ties.	[23:50]
funkenstein_	good question! it did back in the day.	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	for that matter, ropemaking was THE FIRST industrial process. everywhere.	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	read up on it sometime, it's quite fascinating.	[23:50]
funkenstein_	Jefferson I think thought it would lead the usa to greatness	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	rope factory, first factory, harbringer of industry. so it was.	[23:51]
BingoBoingo	funkenstein_: Maybe get a time machine and kill Hamilton?	[23:51]
funkenstein_	but facing guys with guns and infinite bankroll, the stuff went to hide for a while	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	trinque the notion that devil ~= altered mental state is older than africa really. it's an universally recognised human truth.	[23:51]
funkenstein_	don't worry it'll still be around when we figure our shit out :)	[23:51]
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mircea_popescu	ie, false, but false like a myth.	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo yeah, the soy because estrogens thing has a much better conspiraci score than the dupont hemp thing.	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	funkenstein_ the problem you face is explaining why the guys with the lesser bankroll won.	[23:53]
trinque	mircea_popescu: if one's considering rules for the masses, probably better to keep a lid on the stuff	[23:53]
funkenstein_	wait, Hearst, Mellon, and DuPont had the lesser bankroll?	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[23:54]
trinque	thouch certain psychedelics would make an excellent filter	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	if it was the lesser industry, it had the lesser bankroll.	[23:54]
funkenstein_	could be, I really don't know	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	this is what lesser means.	[23:54]
BingoBoingo	http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RmTnBubD--/1460904957532672291.jpg	[23:54]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1MdCeW4 )	[23:54]
BingoBoingo	wait, Hearst, Mellon, and DuPont had the lesser bankroll? << Won on promisatory notes, not completely paid to this day	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	moreover... i seem to recall some bigshot names trying and miserably failing to corner the silver market.	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	so much so high street jewelers were taking full page ads lambasting the hoarding.	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	that DIDNT work out.	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	ie, the better industry won that time. obviously you can throw some away because "variance'	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	but still.	[23:56]
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BingoBoingo	so much so high street jewelers were taking full page ads lambasting the hoarding. << ONly happened how many times in actual BTC governance?	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	eh, they can count it later.	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	in other news, do you know where your girlfriend is ? http://40.media.tumblr.com/62d6ff1af0a27d669fb1ee40459a3b37/tumblr_nox7k8dSJw1uo56n1o1_1280.jpg	[23:57]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1FW3zPY )	[23:57]
*	assbot gives voice to gabriel_laddel	[23:57]
BingoBoingo	More pronounced widow's peak and smaller tits, then I might confuse that for a girl I liked in High School	[23:58]
gabriel_laddel	I love how everyone either missed or ignored where ascii was taking the "cocaine sales practice as a measure of USG power, whatever its form" thread.	[23:59]

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