Forum logs for 06 Dec 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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asciilifeform '...empathy is a core engineering value—and that an engineer that has so little empathy as to not understand why the use of gendered pronouns is a concern almost certainly makes poor technical decisions as well.' << aryan physics is best physics! [00:02]
decimation asciilifeform: whoever the 'jews' are today, they better consider their parachutes now [00:03]
mircea_popescu dude empathy is exactly anti-engineering. it is emphatically NOT an engineering value [00:05]
mircea_popescu who the shit writes this idiocy. i want a name. [00:05]
decimation joyent's pr [00:05]
cazalla mircea_popescu, imagine if someone really was sent to do an interview lol [00:06]
mircea_popescu im gonna get the fucking records [00:06]
mircea_popescu that chick's fried. [00:06]
mircea_popescu cazalla meh, allow me to quote. [00:06]
decimation "Bryan Cantrill" [00:06]
mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Az-CFtXtA [00:06]
assbot Don't Take Your Guns to Town - Johnny Cash & Willie Nelson - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3FV7Q ) [00:06]
mircea_popescu he's some kid. nothing to nobody. [00:06]
decimation https://www.joyent.com/company/management [00:07]
assbot Management Team - Company - Joyent ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3G3Ea ) [00:07]
mircea_popescu decimation nah, hewas like the cto [00:07]
decimation well, he put his name on top. master an man, etc [00:08]
mircea_popescu this is true. [00:09]
mircea_popescu ;;rate bryan cantrill to hang. [00:09]
gribble Error: 'cantrill' is not a valid integer. [00:09]
mircea_popescu no, it wouldn't be. [00:09]
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mircea_popescu "@KristianOellegaard this isn't an issue of breaking or following the rules, it's an issue of doing the right thing and common sense. This situation is about people, not code." [00:12]
mircea_popescu dude splendid. [00:12]
mircea_popescu hanging "progressives" is not a matter of law. [00:12]
mircea_popescu it is a matter of doing the right thing. it's about people, not code. [00:12]
mircea_popescu fire away. [00:12]
undata counts as a fetish too in my book. [00:12]
mircea_popescu how can you NOT like the real isis ? the fake isis (usus ?) is just as stupid, only much derpier. [00:13]
undata they're trying to pass this new "street tax" in Portland [00:15]
decimation at least isis is up front about their religion, instead of being all meta about it [00:15]
undata might as well nuke the whole state from orbit when better masters own it [00:15]
undata oh and check out the opposition! http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/11/portland_street_tax_pers_givea.html [00:15]
assbot Portland street tax: PERS exemption (Letters to the Editor) | OregonLive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3HHG5 ) [00:15]
mircea_popescu decimation but it's the same thing to a dot. "fuck the law, we do what we please". well... [00:15]
mircea_popescu at least rape and pillage if oyu're going that way. [00:15]
undata were isis dropped in the middle of portland they'd own it in a day [00:16]
undata it's a pussy-off here [00:16]
undata who can cry for which special interest the most convincingly [00:16]
cazalla undata, only way to be sure eh? [00:17]
decimation our age is awash in antinomianism [00:17]
undata and serves as an example [00:17]
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mircea_popescu "In a text message, Novick continued that he believes $200 a month means less to people earning $500,000 a year than $12 per month for $50,000 earners." [00:17]
mircea_popescu this magical math you got going there. [00:18]
mircea_popescu is it at least ungendered ? [00:18]
mircea_popescu by now money is compared in the meta-terms of its "meaning" ? [00:18]
mircea_popescu can you buy money-meaning for your dollars ? [00:18]
mircea_popescu i want to trade this millionaire benjies for busker benjies please. [00:18]
undata you didn't build that money meaning. [00:19]
undata we all did [00:19]
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undata mircea_popescu: ungendered << made me think of some sort of feminist reparations tax [00:19]
mircea_popescu ok, but i wanna buy it. [00:19]
undata surely they'll pass that in a few years [00:19]
mircea_popescu there's no point in holding on to plain dollars if on top of inflation of fact you'll also get inflaiton of meaning. [00:20]
decimation as long as he and his friends have a strong lock on the bezzlars funneled into sv, he is more than willing to throw his 'own tribe' under the bus in order to appear magnanimous [00:20]
mircea_popescu what sort of bond interest rate would cover my meaning inflation over here ? 25% ? 45% ? [00:20]
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decimation meanwhile back in unreality world the dollar just beat all the other fiat at the market today [00:24]
decimation apparently 'because' usg released data that indicated that some wages kinda went up, and some people might have been hired [00:24]
mircea_popescu lol im sure. [00:25]
decimation ;;ticker [00:25]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 374.48, Best ask: 375.82, Bid-ask spread: 1.34000, Last trade: 375.84, 24 hour volume: 8384.72282528, 24 hour low: 365.72, 24 hour high: 377.89, 24 hour vwap: 372.683629618 [00:25]
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mircea_popescu it's funny how they're not even tryong here. [00:25]
mircea_popescu so defeated, so used to defeat... [00:26]
mircea_popescu stuck pretedning id un exist etc. [00:26]
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undata http://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/index.ssf/2014/12/defiant_uber_rideshare_launche.html [00:34]
assbot Defiant Uber rideshare launches in Portland, with City Hall promising to 'throw the book' at drivers | OregonLive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3Lao0 ) [00:35]
undata sudden urge to go drive for uber just for the hell of it [00:35]
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mthreat mircea_popescu: if starbucks coffee is any measure of inflation, it's been 60% from 1 year ago. My coffee went from 30 pesos to 48 since 1 year ago. [00:49]
mthreat (in argentina) [00:49]
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* asciilifeform finds it interesting that he has never before heard of joyent corp., nor knowingly used anything in their lineup [01:38]
decimation asciilifeform: they are the 'spiritual heirs' of solaris [01:38]
asciilifeform how?! [01:38]
decimation most of the sunos people left oracle's lawnmower and went there [01:38]
decimation they are trying to be a 'cloud company' with a unique os - SmartOS [01:39]
decimation SmartOS is basically solaris [01:39]
decimation SmartOS is a SVR4 open-source hypervisor, based on the UNIX operating system which combines OpenSolaris technology with Linux's KVM virtualization. [01:39]
asciilifeform solaris was a perfectly-legit unix [01:39]
asciilifeform what did it have to do with these abortions [01:39]
decimation well, it was swallowed by oracle [01:40]
decimation the guts popped out, found vc funding [01:40]
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decimation although like BSD, "solaris" is more of a spiritual matter now than a matter of a particular codebase [01:41]
asciilifeform 'On August 16, 2012, individuals who had provided start-up and development funding to Joyent (and its predecessor, TextDrive) in exchange for lifetime shared hosting accounts with Joyent were informed, via email, that their lifetime hosting accounts would be deleted on October 31, 2012' << lol! (pediwikia) [01:43]
decimation well, SJW's gotta sjw [01:44]
mats_cd03 enjoy minimum wage earning undata [01:44]
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gernika The post on bitcoin in Argentina reminds me of Bitcoin in berlin. There was supposed to be some thriving bitcoin scene in Kreuzberg. In fact when I went to visit there was a single crappy cafe with a cheap Bitcoin sign hanging in the window. [01:45]
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undata it turns out all these citizen journalists are full of shit [01:46]
gernika The post on bitcoin in Argentina reminds me of Bitcoin in berlin. There was supposed to be some thriving bitcoin scene in Kreuzberg. In fact when I went to visit there was a single crappy cafe with a cheap Bitcoin sign hanging in the window. [01:46]
gernika Sorry about that [01:46]
gernika new IRC client, forgot to page down [01:46]
asciilifeform 'In January, 2012, Joyent secured a new round of funding totalling $85 million from Weather Investment II, Accelero Capital, and Telefónica Digital. In October 2014, Joyent raised an additional $15 million in Series D funding from existing investors.' << and immediately after, 'fuck you' to the 'crowdfunders.' [01:47]
asciilifeform not because they were broke, but because... they could ? [01:48]
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decimation hehe yep. the names have been entered in the journal [01:48]
asciilifeform rite of passage? [01:48]
undata asciilifeform: statements are implicitly understood to be mostly bullshit in modern English [01:48]
decimation asciilifeform: doesn't it feel like a cargo cult around an os that was handed down by betters? [01:48]
undata hence "unlimited" data plan = 2 gigs [01:48]
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undata and the gigs aren't even real gigs [01:49]
asciilifeform no surprise that the scam was a scam; surprising is the fact that it wound down precisely when it did [01:49]
undata plenty of lawyer money at that point [01:50]
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asciilifeform honouring the 'lifetime warranty' for all the chumps put together - would this even add up to the cost of one lawyer-week ? [01:51]
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decimation asciilifeform: https://gigaom.com/2013/11/26/whats-up-with-joyent/ << apparently the are only marginally a business [01:53]
assbot What’s up with Joyent? — Tech News and Analysis ... ( http://bit.ly/1A2EFpO ) [01:53]
decimation kinda like sun [01:53]
decimation and apparently they view the legacy of solaris as a great foundation to host ... server-side javascript [01:54]
* asciilifeform can't shake the feeling, reading this crud, that it was all an elaborate joke, and the punchline is to be read out soon [01:55]
decimation asciilifeform perhaps you could follow the fate of solaris as a re-invented platform for oracledb [01:56]
asciilifeform thing is, the degradation of computer industry was inevitable. [01:56]
asciilifeform read, for perhaps the first time, why: [01:56]
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asciilifeform once the machines were no longer put to work solving actual problems, and just about the whole planet switched to 'solving' nonproblems, [01:57]
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asciilifeform inevitably the mimics take over [01:57]
asciilifeform because mimicry is cheaper in all cases than the real thing. [01:57]
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decimation that's an interesting view [01:58]
decimation 'actual problems' being things that are critical to eat, not be blown up, etc? [01:58]
asciilifeform reading for the first time about 'joyent', i couldn't help but wonder - what are these 'technologies' actually for? if they were erased from the good earth overnight, would i notice ? [01:59]
decimation somehow I guess there is a market for selling vms to folks [01:59]
asciilifeform where were they in 1970 and who was the poorer for it ? [01:59]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu had something written re: imbeciles thinking of 'meta' elevation as a kind of philosopher's stone [02:02]
asciilifeform i.e., that if we somehow do 'cloud' correctly, no one actually has to think about cpu and disk, these can live in some 'meta' heavens [02:02]
asciilifeform these folks will eventually build arse-mouth systems and try to eat their own shit. [02:04]
asciilifeform it is the logical conclusion of their thought process. [02:04]
asciilifeform 'We laugh at that fable about the village of simpletons who, when their bed blankets became too short for their growing kids, extended these blankets by cutting off a piece from one end and sewing it to the other. Or the more modern tale of a drunkard who could afford to drink every day because he always took his empty bottles back for a deposit. And yet many otherwise intelligent people believe, apparently not stopping even f [02:05]
asciilifeform or one minute to think whether what they say makes any sense, that Henry Ford, the American entrepreneur whose worldview wouldn't probably stand much scrutiny from the modern perspective, gained his place in the canon of progressive feelgood policies for paying his workers the back then unheard-of high daily salary of $5, which made them wealthy enough to buy Ford automobiles, which in turn made the Ford company profitable.' ( [02:05]
asciilifeform ilkka kokkarinen) [02:05]
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decimation the empty bottles in this case being the legacy of unix, in its million forms [02:07]
decimation really, it's all just an extension of the lowly spammers desire to make money while he sleeps [02:08]
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gernika Man. I used to subscribe to this forum called the Micropreneuer academy. I see now that this was exactly their propsal: spam to make money while you sleep. [02:12]
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asciilifeform a spammer is ridiculous not because he wishes to make money while sleeping, but because he is willing to work an 18 hour day to do it. [02:14]
gernika Exactly. I slept very little while I was trying to follow their recipe. [02:14]
gernika These people were constantly working [02:15]
gernika And at the same time calling it passive income. [02:16]
gernika Whatever scheme they came up with inevitably ran out of steam after at most a few years. [02:16]
gernika There was a constant search for some unexploited google search phrase [02:18]
asciilifeform briefly back to the earlier thread: no one should be surprised if a thing like 'joyent' turns into a vehicle for some imbecile's masturbatory 'justice' fantasies [02:18]
asciilifeform it was never anything else to begin with [02:18]
asciilifeform nor the pseudo-industry it was part of [02:19]
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asciilifeform http://anticache.img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/oglaf-comics-magic-illusionist-1131130.jpeg [02:21]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1A2HJlR ) [02:21]
asciilifeform (original site down) [02:21]
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undata decimation | really, it's all just an extension of the lowly spammers desire to make money while he sleeps << cheap credit spawned a generation of these [02:32]
undata shit-garglers like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kiyosaki [02:33]
assbot Robert Kiyosaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1z5Yuyd ) [02:33]
undata several generations of Americans at least believe that this is precisely what success looks like: you buy and sell a few houses and your life is on autopilot from then on [02:34]
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mircea_popescu gernika this wouldn't be something called Room77 ? [02:40]
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mircea_popescu mthreat not so sure what starbucks measures. [02:41]
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gernika mircea_popescu I have not heard of Room77 - google tells me it's some sort of hotel site. [02:42]
mircea_popescu honouring the 'lifetime warranty' for all the chumps put together - would this even add up to the cost of one lawyer-week ? << it makes no sense to me either. [02:42]
mircea_popescu gernika also in k [02:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform> reading for the first time about 'joyent', i couldn't help but wonder - what are these 'technologies' actually for? if they were erased from the good earth overnight, would i notice ? <<< if node.js were erased you would notice. [02:43]
mircea_popescu just like if fat women were erased from the world you'd notice. [02:44]
mircea_popescu better internet, better world. [02:44]
undata at least it's chum for bad developers [02:45]
undata you know where they're at [02:45]
mircea_popescu ilkka kokkarinen) << there is some merit to the ford story, but specifically, that he majorily cut down on staff turnover by "overpaying". except all the other idiots were not accounting for training costs (in the form of, not building anything too complex) [02:45]
mircea_popescu so it gave him an unassailable advantage for just long enough. [02:46]
mircea_popescu undata sure, except for the obnoxious "prevailin business practices" bit. [02:46]
gernika mircea_popescu actually yes, that looks familiar [02:46]
mircea_popescu prev heard good things of it which is why i asked. [02:47]
mircea_popescu i suppose it's not time-invariant. [02:48]
gernika I had a burrito there. It was not a great burrito. The interior was quite drab. [02:48]
mircea_popescu german burrito ? that's a thought. [02:48]
mircea_popescu (speaking of which, the doner in germany surpasses the doner in turkey i hear) [02:49]
gernika I agree - a german burrito seemed unappealing just as a concept, let alone as something concrete made out of that run down kitchen, but apparently at the time I thought that was my best option. [02:51]
gernika Hmm doner looks good, never had it before. [02:52]
mircea_popescu o.O [02:53]
mircea_popescu i thought it's the world's most popular fast food dish [02:53]
mircea_popescu (in the civilised sense of that term, not the usian sense of it0 [02:54]
gernika The world doesn't work like that here. [02:54]
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mircea_popescu and with that i wish you a merry christmas! [03:00]
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mircea_popescu cazalla: back to ddosing websites by the looks of it << did it only last 5 minutes or do i liek magically not see it again [13:38]
kakobrekla 1h55m [13:38]
mircea_popescu heh/ [13:38]
mircea_popescu duude s.mpoe 50 almost ? [13:39]
mircea_popescu bwahaha. MEAT TONIGHT! [13:39]
kakobrekla :) [13:39]
mircea_popescu gernika: and has "temporarily" recentralized << lawl, for "everyone's proteciton" ? [13:39]
mircea_popescu Namworld: uh... Facebook ads system numbers are dodgy <<< welcome to the club ? fb is a scam. this has been said here i dunno how many times, but by pretty much everyone ever involved. [13:40]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2014#488163 [13:41]
assbot Logged on 07-02-2014 20:43:36; ThickAsThieves: facebook ads are the worst performance of like all options, other than for some very specific uses [13:41]
mircea_popescu etc [13:41]
mircea_popescu and when he says very specific uses, what he means is stuff like [13:42]
mircea_popescu ;;google how i trolled my imbecile roommate by custom tailoring the ads facebook showed him (nevermind what either having roommates or hanging out with imbeciles says about me). [13:42]
gribble No matches found. [13:42]
mircea_popescu orly. [13:43]
mircea_popescu http://www.adweek.com/news/technology/roommate-makes-his-friend-paranoid-creepy-facebook-ads-160320 [13:43]
assbot Roommate Buys Facebook Ads to Creep Out His Friend and Practice Targeted Marketing | Adweek ... ( http://bit.ly/1G318ab ) [13:43]
mircea_popescu shockingly, this is in adweek, a wanna-be trade rag. [13:43]
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Namworld Oh yeah, that thing. It's so funny [14:00]
mircea_popescu lol yea [14:00]
punkman Namworld: if enough volume, you gotta look at your logs and ask them to refund some of the scamclicks [14:02]
mircea_popescu generally the business experience on the topic being that paying for someone to do the tech part and for someone to do the business part comes to 1-35% more than the value of the refunded clicks. [14:03]
Namworld Funny enough, it's targeted at both men and women that talk/liked pages related to Bitcoin. [14:04]
Namworld The demographic isn't as random as I'd usually see, it's 66% males between 18-35 [14:05]
mircea_popescu several generations of Americans at least believe that this is precisely what success looks like: you buy and sell a few houses and your life is on autopilot from then on << in their defense, all generations since the industrial revolution chiefly believed that this is what success looks like : you do a few things and that's that. [14:05]
mircea_popescu notably, athletes at the turn of the century (their dream briefly came through in the 60s, now it seems fucked again), and military men althrough the 1800s. [14:06]
mircea_popescu Namworld speaking of nonrandom demos : https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net [14:06]
assbot Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast [14:06]
mircea_popescu female index .13, black index 0.3 [14:06]
mircea_popescu because brothers before bitchez, yo! [14:07]
mircea_popescu Namworld how much did you pay btw ? [14:07]
Namworld Eh, $50 for the heck of it and there was actually sales, but I didn't put a tracking link so hard to say. I have to change that immediately. [14:10]
Namworld Will have to derp some more around and complain for free credits. [14:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00051189 = 4.863 BTC [+] [14:12]
gernika mircea_popescu: "When given the choice between temporary centralization and guaranteeing the security of the protocol and therefore user funds, the choice is obvious. Once the new consensus algorithm is complete, it will be safe to run with more than one node again." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8709514 [14:13]
assbot Joyce from Stellar here. Yes, that is correct. When given the choice between tem... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1G34g5Z ) [14:13]
mircea_popescu gernika lulzy. i wonder if we see the same nonsense emerge in btc. [14:15]
mircea_popescu of course, they manage to not even correctly state the choice. [14:15]
mircea_popescu obviously if given the incorrectly statement "choice is obvious". a whole new mode of rational failure the us invented, "begging "the obvious" choice", similar to "begging the question" [14:16]
Namworld It might be that facebook ad bots don't tend to have Bitcoin in their interest... at least yet. Hence why demographic looks accurate. [14:17]
mircea_popescu but the actual choice is between "destroying the long term viability of the coin through introducing precedent - certain to be followed - of converting it overnight into a centrally owned resource" and "destroying the long term viability of the coin through introducing precedent of arbitrarily lost funds" [14:17]
mircea_popescu neither of these being either obvious or desirable, and their conjunction being why the coin in question - stellar or whatever - is dead. [14:18]
mircea_popescu Namworld how did you select that demo exactly ? [14:18]
asciilifeform first comment in above link has it: 'How'd you centralize your decentralized system? It sounds like something that shouldn't be possible unless it's actually centralized to begin with.' [14:18]
punkman I don't think Stellar was ever decentralized. They just had more than one server. [14:19]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform nm that! [14:19]
gernika punkman: polycentralized. Now it's just monodecentralized. [14:19]
asciilifeform recall the 'software does not wear out' article. [14:20]
asciilifeform if you can do the 'centralize' trick, it was always defective. [14:21]
punkman asciilifeform: you could run your own private bitcoin, or private Tor network, or whatever [14:22]
asciilifeform (not because there had to be a mechanical defense against it. no mechanical pill against 'buy all the coins and throw into the sea.' but attempting this gambit, given a properly-designed coin, should cost above $maxint.) [14:23]
Namworld Just by selecting people that have "Bitcoin" in their interests. [14:23]
mircea_popescu o by hand ? [14:23]
asciilifeform punkman: anyone using such a thing deserves what he gets [14:24]
Namworld No, just by adding the term Bitcoin to targeting. So basically people that liked pages and so on or occasionally mention the term "Bitcoin", I believe. [14:24]
Namworld So unless there's other Bitcoin advertisers running bots, unlikely to target bot accounts. But stats still points to dodgy stuff. So I guess the majority is still bots. [14:25]
mircea_popescu Namworld can you be bothered to run a similar thing for me ? it's been half a year since i last tried them, moar lulz can't hurt. [14:25]
Namworld I guess there's already people there. [14:25]
mircea_popescu that's what god invented 0.1 anyway [14:25]
Namworld Eh, Facebook is either shit at filtering bots or just plain out scammers. [14:26]
Namworld I guess I could run something for you [14:26]
mircea_popescu pm [14:26]
gernika I was able to collect email addresses via a signup page running an FB campaign at one time. Don't recall the conversion percentage at the moment but at that time at least there were real people clicking. [14:26]
mircea_popescu im gonna run http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/ will publish teh results. [14:27]
assbot Bitcoin in Argentina : exactly nothing to do with the derps pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8pRYk ) [14:27]
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fluffypony clever advertising: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SRmgQH0TbJ4 [14:45]
assbot More drama at Mt. Gox - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8ufH1 ) [14:45]
Namworld Drama -> repackage into advertising -> ???derping??? -> profit [14:51]
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ben_vulpes ben_vulpes: what do you need that for? << 's a joke [15:09]
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ben_vulpes "To me, that insistence can only come from one place: that gender—specifically, masculinity—is inextricably linked to software" << or perhaps that that pronouns are gendered in better languages than engris but whatever [15:13]
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ben_vulpes THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE INTERPRETATION [15:13]
ben_vulpes HEAR ME ROAR [15:13]
ben_vulpes paas wars are the db wars of 2015 [15:14]
ben_vulpes undata: "street tax" << my parents have called portland a "benevolent communist state" for as long as i've lived here. it's only recently started to pass its inflection points letting the impoverished demand more and more. [15:18]
ben_vulpes once upon a time it was the schools, and there were bonds, and the people paid, and nothing changed. [15:18]
ben_vulpes now it's inanities like the street tax to pave the ghetto. [15:19]
ben_vulpes ;;calc 200/50000 [15:19]
gribble 0.004 [15:20]
ben_vulpes ;;calc 12/50000 [15:20]
gribble 0.00024 [15:20]
adlai tl;dr: ripple/stellar are a centralized exchange which publishes its customer database, and uses a hawala fork for fiat processing [15:28]
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ben_vulpes adlai: hawala fork << lol [15:31]
adlai call a spade a spade! [15:32]
punkman http://thedoomthatcametopuppet.tumblr.com/? [15:34]
assbot The Doom that Came to Puppet ... ( http://bit.ly/1tYwdUP ) [15:34]
Namworld My darn cat just opens cupboard and so on and claws bag open to eat pastas and so on... I'll need big plastic container to store pasta and so on in accessible locations, and keep the rest in places he can't get in. [15:47]
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ben_vulpes http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/la1hcf/inglourious-ambassaders [16:34]
assbot Inglourious Ambassaders - The Daily Show - Video Clip | Comedy Central ... ( http://bit.ly/1tYO3qF ) [16:34]
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mircea_popescu THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE INTERPRETATION << actually, the deeper reason is that masculinity is inextricably linked to the species, [16:55]
mircea_popescu in the sense that humanity is either masculine or not worth the mention [16:55]
ben_vulpes but babes smell so nice [16:56]
mircea_popescu the various defeated and meanwhile extinct tribes from the amazon valley to the pacific rim being the exact proof of this concept. [16:56]
mircea_popescu now it's inanities like the street tax to pave the ghetto. << srsly, paving the ghetto, for as long as it uses forced labour of the inhabitants and very rudimentary tools, and it's done in the middle of the summer, is a splendid idea. [16:57]
mircea_popescu lol pasta cat. [16:57]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes well of course they smell nice! [16:58]
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ben_vulpes nice (smelling) people for governance only forever everywhere [17:01]
mircea_popescu you know babes are a vanishingly small sliver of "women" [17:02]
mircea_popescu this is like saying "honda civics forever everywhere" because "bmws are kinda cool" [17:03]
mircea_popescu adlai the only somewhat amusing / incredible if you're new thing about that entire stellar debacle is that... people still pretend like ripple's a thing. [17:05]
mircea_popescu "oh, setting our house on fire doesn't work ? I KNOW! let's set the house on fire WITH GASOLINE!" [17:06]
mircea_popescu punkman basically it meshes half sentences from the two huh. [17:07]
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