Forum logs for 06 Apr 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
pete_dushenski or not even [00:00]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski airbnb costs money. [00:00]
pete_dushenski 'private rooms' cost less, whole suite, ya, that's too high falutin [00:00]
decimation ^ actresses waiting tables/turning tricks now use 25% less water [00:00]
mircea_popescu and this is how the carrie bradshaw selected hearing works. she'd have heard of the new york times, but not of... hm [00:01]
mircea_popescu here's a point in case : http://www.toptenz.net/10-greatest-american-philosophers.php [00:01]
pete_dushenski if bitstein is correct, one wonders how hearn affords to live in switzerland [00:01]
assbot 10 Greatest American Philosophers - Toptenz.net ... ( http://bit.ly/19WRTNv ) [00:01]
pete_dushenski or more precisely, who he knows there with a spare couch [00:01]
mircea_popescu note that they DO list that imbecile west. who has contributed as much to human knowledge as obama has : being black. [00:02]
mircea_popescu who is missing from that list ? [00:02]
mircea_popescu hint : he's a jew. his name starts with a c. [00:02]
mircea_popescu and ends, unsurprisingly, in a y. [00:02]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: it was a nato possession since day 1 of nato (and possibly earlier depending on whether you're a dulles et al '3rd as prequel to 4th' reich proponent) [00:02]
mircea_popescu so, yes. carrie bradshaw of philosophy writing for the toptenz of nyt has heard of cornel but not of chomsky. [00:02]
asciilifeform case in point: where is crypto ag corp. headquartered? and why [00:02]
asciilifeform swiss banks: exactly like american banks but more honeypotty [00:03]
mircea_popescu decimation in fairness, they had all switched to those alcohol based swipes in the 90s. [00:03]
bitstein pete_dushenski: He works (or used to work?) at Google's Zurich office: https://www.google.com/about/careers/locations/zurich/ [00:03]
decimation heh [00:03]
assbot Zurich - Google Careers [00:03]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: eh, not really a proponent of said theory. [00:03]
mircea_popescu in a rather disgusting turn of events. [00:03]
pete_dushenski swiss will go hide in the mountains, play defense, sell out who they like the least, one by one until the asker fucks off [00:04]
decimation my understanding is that it's not very simple to get a work visa in switzerland [00:04]
asciilifeform decimation: easy as a fart if you're a usg intelligence asset. [00:04]
mircea_popescu amusingly, it's traditionally what the nsa used [00:04]
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mircea_popescu (the cia used germany as a cover for its people) [00:05]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: if swiss banks are honeypotty, what are caymans ? [00:05]
mircea_popescu but somehow the geeks felt switzerland was more "technical" [00:05]
decimation http://www.businessinsider.com/edward-snowden-describes-cia-tricks-2013-6?op=1 [00:05]
assbot Edward Snowden Describes CIA Tricks - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9LHgU ) [00:05]
mircea_popescu i think this is even mentioned in meanwhile declassified soviet stuff. they actually sorted the blacks by "switzerland or germany" [00:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00027821 = 6.2041 BTC [-] {2} [00:05]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: they bought (with guess what kind of money) sizeable stakes in various swiss concerns (including, best-known publicly, crypto ag) [00:05]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: who are these blacks who were sorted ? [00:07]
mircea_popescu back to that "you have no rights" fisher quote for a second : it splendidly illustrates the difference between democracy and republic, [00:07]
mircea_popescu and why la serenissima is not a democracy, and why no democracy can be anything but "a popular democracy", as in the popular democratic republic of [00:08]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski old joke, americans ask russians how do they keep discovering their secret agents. "you could try not sending black people..." [00:08]
pete_dushenski ah! i remember that one :) [00:09]
pete_dushenski i even retold it once, to splendid effect [00:09]
mircea_popescu incidentally, this might make a great basis for a remake of that fabulous "le grand blanc" (which srsly was james bond only well done) [00:09]
mircea_popescu have a senegalese man play Igor Totallyhonestlyrusynskyi [00:10]
decimation ^there's a 'democratic' effort to get a black guy to play james bond [00:10]
pete_dushenski next: asian woman bond [00:10]
mircea_popescu how about paraplegic bond ? [00:10]
mircea_popescu maybe hawkins could cameo. [00:10]
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mircea_popescu make it just like the bond franchise, but with handicapped people and science. [00:11]
mircea_popescu logical step. [00:11]
pete_dushenski lol at hawkins! [00:11]
pete_dushenski watched theory of everything' [00:11]
pete_dushenski last night [00:11]
pete_dushenski the most telling line, and keep in mind that this is in the late 60s/early 70s, was hawking saying "physics is business" [00:12]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski btw, ever seen http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Grand_Blond_avec_une_chaussure_noire ? [00:12]
assbot Le Grand Blond avec une chaussure noire — Wikipédia ... ( http://bit.ly/19WTbrD ) [00:12]
mircea_popescu you're francophone right ? [00:12]
pete_dushenski bilingue ;) [00:12]
decimation " So, what that means is, this is actually terrifying. Democracy is radically indeterminate. The outcome can be manipulated. But that manipulation will not be apparent to people unless they have seen this technical result. Which means that you sort of--you can have shamans, people who know the rules, be in charge in ways that are tantamount to dictatorship. So, we should be very skeptical about claims that 'this is what the people [00:12]
decimation want.'" [00:12]
pete_dushenski with enough spanish not to starve [00:12]
pete_dushenski 2.5langue [00:12]
decimation ^ the 'result' is simply that outcomes are not process-neutral, so manipulation of 'voting rules' manipulates outcomes. thus, dictatorship by process, ie usg [00:13]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: haven't seen le grand blond but will add it to the list. [00:13]
asciilifeform manipulation of 'voting rules' manipulates outcomes << this is actually a very undergrad-level game-theoretical result (arrow's theorem & related) [00:13]
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mircea_popescu decimation that's not even the biggest deal. arguably the biggest deal one outside could ever figure out. [00:14]
mircea_popescu but from the inside of a "democracy", i can tell you this : people employing a wot are so much more successful than people who do not [00:14]
mircea_popescu that in short order the wot is mandatory [00:14]
mircea_popescu then it pierces through [00:14]
mircea_popescu then representatives of the democracy are shot on xmas day and you can get a beating just by saying you think communism may be a thing. [00:15]
decimation certainly anything that destroys 'process' is a good thing [00:15]
mircea_popescu the notion that "democracy", ie, an implementation of democracy without a martial population and strict limits on the franchise is even practicable... [00:15]
mircea_popescu seriously, very thin ice sheets to shade you from the sun. [00:16]
mircea_popescu a) they're transparent b) they melt. glhf. [00:16]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: people employing a wot are so much more successful than people who do not << completely. see italians, somalis, jooz, whoever. the rest are but chumps. [00:16]
decimation well, munger comes to the same conclusion as moldbug, that is usg is highly resistant to voting - because to be otherwise would be terrifying [00:16]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski i meant inside the "democracy" [00:16]
decimation because as much as I bitch about it, 'rule by derpy bureaucrat' is 100x better than 'rule by crazy mob' [00:17]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: uh me too [00:17]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski the expression in romanian was " a face rost" , which meant to procure. which meant, talk to someone who knows someone. [00:17]
mircea_popescu literally, "n-ai pe cineva... ?" ie , "don't you have someone..." [00:18]
mircea_popescu ;;google toma caragiu n-ai pe cineva [00:18]
gribble Toma Caragiu - "N-ai pe cineva?" - YouTube: ; Toma Caragiu : N-ai pe cineva ! - YouTube: ; N-ai pe cineva ? - Toma Caragiu - YouTube: [00:18]
decimation https://rwcg.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/in-the-future-all-british-characters-will-be-played-by-idris-elba/ < "The basic situation seems to be that people (including me!) really really love Idris Elba & think he’s awesome, and also really really don’t want to appear racist. Ergo, Idris Elba should play every possible and conceivable British character who could in principle appear in a movie that you can name! " [00:19]
mircea_popescu ("dear listeners, i tell you i have no one anywhere. not phone service, not gas distributor, not x y or z. i do not..." [00:19]
assbot In the future, all British characters will be played by Idris Elba | RWCG ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9NSRn ) [00:19]
BingoBoingo who is missing from that list ? << Chomsky [00:19]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo mhm. [00:19]
* BingoBoingo was waiting for one of our Jews to name 'im [00:19]
mircea_popescu :p [00:19]
mircea_popescu anywya, ima put that online. [00:20]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: lol you're obviously the jewiest guy in the audience! [00:21]
mircea_popescu he's a jew like i'm pregnant. [00:22]
* BingoBoingo never could never see getting worked up over specific kinds of crackers [00:22]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: boy or girl ? [00:22]
asciilifeform http://addxorrol.blogspot.com/2009/11/why-are-most-researchers-not-fan-of.html << more vintage lulz turned up in dig [00:22]
assbot ADD / XOR / ROL: Why are most researchers not a fan of standards on "responsible disclosure" ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9Osia ) [00:22]
pete_dushenski and congrats! [00:22]
* asciilifeform sifting through ancient notes in thus far futile search for unrelated thing [00:22]
pete_dushenski i kid, i kid. [00:22]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski rabbit. [00:22]
asciilifeform 'I might be stepping on some people's toes, but to me it looked like a high-school class where the dimmest students drew up guidelines on how smart students "should" behave, and gave that to the teacher in order to earn brownie points - including clauses like 'not contradicting the teacher'.' [00:23]
mircea_popescu i am not a great fan of hard labour [00:23]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform word. [00:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7177 @ 0.00027232 = 1.9544 BTC [-] {2} [00:23]
decimation asciilifeform: in other words, the dim mob wants 'process' precisely to dictate redistribution to them [00:25]
asciilifeform decimation: importantly - in a way calculated to 'steal the sense of having been stolen from' [00:26]
asciilifeform aka 'how the world works' (TM) [00:27]
decimation right, the bums who vote to expel you after taking up residence on your property are morally superior, being bums [00:27]
asciilifeform https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/1998-12/msg00083.html [00:29]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/19WVCum ) [00:29]
asciilifeform or did we do this one already. [00:29]
decimation I didn't see it. So " --enable-static-nss" is useful for glibc [00:31]
asciilifeform '1) Contributors can add new services without adding them to the GNU C Library. [00:31]
asciilifeform 2) The modules can be updated separately. [00:31]
asciilifeform 3) The C library image is smaller.' [00:31]
asciilifeform ( http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/NSS-Basics.html#NSS-Basics ) [00:31]
asciilifeform wtf [00:31]
assbot The GNU C Library: NSS Basics ... ( http://bit.ly/19WVRpl ) [00:31]
decimation yeah I don't get it [00:31]
decimation why does name resolution require binary plugins [00:31]
asciilifeform http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3430400/linux-static-linking-is-dead << i'm not remotely the first to notice the gorilla shitting in the kitchen [00:32]
assbot gcc - Linux static linking is dead? - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9Q1fS ) [00:32]
asciilifeform 'I do not know where to find the historic references, but yes, static linking is dead on GNU systems. (I believe it died during the transition from libc4/libc5 to libc6/glibc 2.x.) The feature was deemed useless in light of: Security vulnerabilities. Application which was statically linked doesn't even support upgrade of libc....' [00:32]
asciilifeform there we have it. [00:32]
asciilifeform deliberate. [00:33]
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decimation I guess it's 'nice' that gethostbyname() can be arbitrarily remapped if you just want your linux to run winblows [00:34]
decimation asciilifeform: to be fair, their reasoning kinda makes sense in the world where libc is providing the 'global namespace' [00:36]
asciilifeform the stab-in-the-back method of dropping support for staticlinking in no way can be justified. [00:38]
asciilifeform it is a show of bad faith. [00:39]
decimation what amuses me is that the excuse of 'it fixes bugs' only applies to code that isn't otherwise distributed by the 'distro' [00:40]
decimation in other words, it only applies to code that the user himself has compiled [00:40]
asciilifeform I didn't see it. So " --enable-static-nss" is useful for glibc << as i understand, this results in random breakage (a binary which only runs with any degree of certainty on your machine) [00:42]
decimation yes, if you have some non-standard nsswitch.conf stuff it will break [00:43]
asciilifeform -somebody- saw it fit to break static linking on gnu platform in the traditional microshit way - suddenly, silently, and 'for your own good' (TM) [00:43]
decimation it only uses 'files' and 'dns' [00:43]
decimation all kinds of stuff provides nss plugins for name resolution [00:43]
decimation for instance, if you want to resolve the names of 'cifs' hosts running on microshit servers [00:44]
decimation at any rate, I think the responsible option here is to settle on uclibc with the desired features enabled [00:45]
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asciilifeform i still want to know precisely what patch it was that made it into various non-gentoo things, that silenced the alarm bell and deceived folks into 'yes this is a static build' [00:54]
asciilifeform obligatory: r. sheckley's 'hour of battle' and mircea_popescu's remake thereof, http://trilema.com/2014/the-hour-of-reckoning [00:56]
assbot The Hour Of Reckoning on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/19WZpb6 ) [00:56]
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decimation asciilifeform: part of the problem is that glibc has a 'colorful' history [01:03]
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mircea_popescu hey mthreat is the search borkt ? [01:22]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-failure-modes-of-democracy-from-people-who-actually-know-what-theyre-talking-about/ < [01:25]
assbot The failure modes of "democracy", from people who actually know what they're talking about. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/19X3dsV ) [01:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i'm not entirely sure this is to go on the head of Andreas Jaeger. [01:29]
mircea_popescu more interestingly, any idea who {UD} is ? [01:30]
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mircea_popescu anyway asciilifeform no you're not the first to notice. you're the first to notice who is actually connected and thus powerful. [01:39]
mircea_popescu deliberate. <<< that part was clear. [01:55]
mircea_popescu in other words, it only applies to code that the user himself has compiled << in other words, it is by its very definition dekulakization. run the fucking code usg & dept of friend computer say you run, terrorist! [01:56]
mircea_popescu -somebody- saw it fit to break static linking on gnu platform in the traditional microshit way - suddenly, silently, and 'for your own good' (TM) << and the fact that silently worked tells mike_c why qntra market cap would reasonably exceed the sum of the market cap of all computing publications available. [01:58]
mircea_popescu not even kidding. [01:58]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell decimation once we settle in uclibc, uclibc gets killed. [01:58]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:58]
mircea_popescu much easier than to try and you know, buy all pogos, as alf was discussing. [01:59]
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mats http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2015/04/05/navy-shipbuilding-budget-ships-fleet-plan-destroyers-cruisers-submarines-amphibious-aircraft-carriers-flagships/25331685/ [03:06]
assbot New US Navy Fleet Goal: 308 Ships ... ( http://bit.ly/1C5Boqa ) [03:06]
mats http://breakingdefense.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/04/Parameters-for-a-Joint-Comprehenisve-Plan-of-Action.pdf [03:07]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1C5BxtF ) [03:07]
mats ^Parameters of the nuclear deal with Iran [03:10]
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mats http://defensetech.org/2015/04/03/china-unveils-three-new-nuclear-powered-attack-submarines/ [03:13]
assbot China Unveils Three New Nuclear-Powered Attack Submarines | Defense Tech ... ( http://bit.ly/1C5C6DE ) [03:13]
mircea_popescu mats anything above and beyond the "they succeeded making their own nuke, further sanctions superfluous" ? [03:30]
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mircea_popescu 300ish ships somehow sounds unimpressive. like a minor chinese port. [03:35]
mats “What they are doing with patrols is just the tip of the iceberg. It is not just the number of the ships, but within five to eight years they will have about 82 submarines in the Asia Pacific area and we will have about 32 to 34" [03:37]
mircea_popescu "all of which will be running on chinese made ic anyway" [03:38]
mats mircea_popescu: no, just the usual implicit 'fear the chinese' byline [03:38]
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mircea_popescu yeah well... it seems reasonably obvious that the usg's very uppity policy is insanity on the mid term. they need us a lot more than we could ever need them. obviously a bit of humility today will save a lot of abject humiliation in 2025, but in any case [03:39]
mircea_popescu ascii's wagen is not all that probable. [03:39]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/a60bb63e5b9b4567e95c25aac83c1744/tumblr_nhqagdQuIB1u5z1ezo1_500.gif [03:47]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NN9DrU ) [03:47]
mats http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/06/john-oliver-grills-edward-snowden-on-last-week-tonight.html [03:50]
assbot John Oliver Grills Edward Snowden on ‘Last Week Tonight’ - The Daily Beast ... ( http://bit.ly/1NN9UuV ) [03:50]
mats only the first third is worth reading [03:52]
cazalla http://qntra.net/2015/04/buttercoin-set-to-close/ [04:01]
assbot Buttercoin Set To Close | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1NNaBob ) [04:01]
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mircea_popescu there wa sa buttercoin ?! [04:10]
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mircea_popescu mats oh, that oliver muppet. [04:11]
mircea_popescu no idea why anyone'd entertain mildred gillars posing as a "comedian", but hey. [04:13]
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mircea_popescu in any case : that particular leak, and the much less publicised but much ampler leaks since, are not important because "people on the street" [04:14]
mircea_popescu you can by and large identify disinfo by this very idiotic "person on street" bent. [04:14]
mircea_popescu the ordinary streetwalker couldn't explain how a car engine works, either. that doesn't make car engines unimportant. [04:15]
mircea_popescu if this were how the world worked everyone'd be john oliver. [04:15]
mircea_popescu but the pretense that his thinly veiled propaganda is "real journalism" is indicative of the state of the usg propaganda machine, be it daily beast or wapo. [04:15]
mircea_popescu ie, they really abandoned any attempt to communicate at all, and satisfy themselves with browbeat. supposedly this works on the stupidest of the working class. [04:16]
mircea_popescu i have my doubts. [04:16]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/04/buttercoin-set-to-close/ << Between this and BitPay's struggles seems US money is going all in on CoinBase [04:25]
assbot Buttercoin Set To Close | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1aAMGvQ ) [04:25]
mats but hes so edgy /s [04:29]
mircea_popescu so are most cuckolds. [04:37]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo buttercoin now lay dead is broken somehow [04:38]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Applied a patch, cazalla's one this though. [04:41]
mircea_popescu ah sorry. [04:42]
BingoBoingo It's alright. I was only just working on a sandwich of ham... because no jew to be seen behind this IRC nick. [04:44]
mircea_popescu lol [04:49]
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cazalla there wa sa buttercoin ?! <<< been around a while actually but done the pivot thing a few times or something [05:19]
mircea_popescu aha [05:19]
mircea_popescu well luckily ver invested the money he doesn't have into a new way to butter the coin! [05:19]
fluffypony right at the beginning [05:23]
fluffypony when Buttercoin was proposed [05:23]
fluffypony I commented on the Hackpad where we were shooting ideas around [05:23]
fluffypony (afair it was for a decentralised exchange) [05:24]
mircea_popescu aha ? [05:24]
mircea_popescu wait, you were involved in this ? [05:24]
fluffypony no, not beyond commenting on the hackpad [05:25]
fluffypony after that they seemed to veer off and create a "buttercoin team" and "productise" it [05:25]
fluffypony instead of building it out as an open-source effort [05:25]
fluffypony so I lost interest [05:26]
fluffypony heh there we go [05:29]
fluffypony https://buttercoin.hackpad.com/Managing-client-side-connections-SatDG3PXEvk [05:29]
assbot Managing client-side connections - buttercoin.hackpad.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1ICidrP ) [05:29]
fluffypony that was mine [05:29]
mircea_popescu which hackpad thing reminds me : re the earlier hacker news piece - i find it hysterical the agitprop is seriously pushing the "and they got on skype" angle. [05:29]
mircea_popescu here's a clue : no decision of any import was ever taken on skype. [05:29]
mircea_popescu the people who take decisions aren't on skype. the people who are on skype don't take decisions. [05:29]
mircea_popescu "We're having trouble talking to the Hackpad synchronization server. You may be connecting through an incompatible firewall or proxy server. [05:30]
mircea_popescu We were unable to connect to the Hackpad synchronization server. This may be due to an incompatibility with your web browser or internet connection." [05:30]
mircea_popescu yeah totally. i have incompatible internet. incompatible TO STUPID [05:31]
cazalla i was on skype no less than 1 hour ago lol : [05:33]
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mircea_popescu lol [05:34]
mircea_popescu fluffypony kinda funny how the "decentralised exchange" is the webwallet of 2015. [05:36]
fluffypony lol [05:36]
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cazalla ooh looks like this australian didn't wanna play ball any longer http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/military-adviser-adam-cobb-arrested-in-us-on-child-pornography/story-e6frg6nf-1227293195488 [05:37]
assbot Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian ... ( http://bit.ly/1ICj4sH ) [05:37]
cazalla "Cobb allegedly uploaded images of child pornography to the social networking site, Tumblr." [05:38]
mircea_popescu i imagine tumblr has a metric shitton of child porn [05:38]
punkman http://www.catonmat.net/blog/ldd-arbitrary-code-execution/ [05:38]
assbot ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse ... ( http://bit.ly/1ICj77B ) [05:38]
mircea_popescu "In this article I am going to show you how to create an executable that runs arbitrary code if it's examined by `ldd`. I have also written a social engineering scenario on how you can get your sysadmin to unknowingly hand you his privileges." [05:39]
mircea_popescu this is pretty dangerous. [05:39]
mircea_popescu and im sure a major part of whatever SALADWORD [05:39]
punkman "1985 called, they want their exploit back." [05:40]
mircea_popescu heh [05:41]
punkman so, don't ldd as root n' stuff, in case you didn't know [05:42]
mircea_popescu of course, in the converse view, a sysadmin that actually fucks with your binary on a valuable box... [05:42]
mircea_popescu app/bin# ldd ./myapp [05:43]
mircea_popescu All your box are belong to me. [05:43]
mircea_popescu ^ i thought that was precious [05:43]
mircea_popescu i had to do a dbl take see if he actually put html cruft in his poc. [05:43]
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ascii_field '"I suppose the idea is that everything will be in the downloaded file, so nothing depends on the local libraries on the target system. Unfortunately with Linux, and I think anything else using GLIBC, this still isn't quite true. There's this "libnss" (name service switch, some people seem to call it network security system) which provides functions for accessing various databases for authentication, network information, [15:23]
ascii_field and other things. It's supposed to make application programs independent of the separately configured actual network environment of the machine. A nice idea, but changes to GLIBC can lead to problems loading it. And you can't statically link "libnss", since it is configured for each machine individually. The problem comes, I think, mainly from statically linking other GLIBC libraries, notably "libpthread", "libm", and [15:23]
ascii_field "libc", from which come incompatible calls to "libnss" functions."' [15:23]
mircea_popescu so acthung panzers as the expression goes : [15:23]
mircea_popescu in the wake of my "who shat the libnss" investigation tptb have agreed something must be done about this. [15:24]
mircea_popescu what's now needed is an expert computer engineer willing and able to take over maintenance of libnss, starting with fixing it so it allows proper static linking. [15:24]
mircea_popescu you will be helped by the glibc team but you.absolutely.must.know.what.you're.doing. [15:25]
ascii_field why not shoot it in the head and maintain uclibc's ? [15:25]
mircea_popescu i am an open man running an open empire. [15:25]
mircea_popescu people get to do w/e the shit it is they want to do. [15:25]
mircea_popescu anyway, if one's interested feel free to contact me and i'll either say gtfo or tell you what you have to do. if you'd rather avoid the record of the gtfo feel free to discuss privately. [15:26]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: i began reading the glibc source last night [15:26]
ascii_field must say that 'fix' is not the appropriate word [15:26]
ascii_field by any stretch of imagination [15:26]
mircea_popescu you being one of the perhaps five people that did it this year, [15:26]
mircea_popescu and i know the other four. [15:26]
ascii_field can you 'fix' a roadkill baking in the sun ? [15:26]
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mircea_popescu but, regardless. every journey begins with a frenzied fuck and a sad kiss goodbye. [15:27]
mircea_popescu or w/e that expression was. [15:27]
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ascii_field dns is pure gold as a pwnhole vector, incidentally [15:31]
mircea_popescu it seems *DESIGNED* for this purpose [15:31]
mircea_popescu at least from what i've pieced together from what people have been reciting to me as bedstories since my involvement in bitcoin [15:31]
ascii_field (solidly usg-controlled and no one other than us appears to smell the stink of the beast!) [15:31]
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mircea_popescu yes. "and what happens if letter server sends you crafted package ?" "huh ?!" [15:32]
mircea_popescu "no that doesn't happen" "right" "you don't understand how the world works!" [15:32]
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mircea_popescu anyway, it was good enough for the webpage + guestbook era, which is back when it shone. everything goes away eventually, and the duct tape and chewed gum contraptions holding togethere the everyman's arpanet especially so. [15:33]
ascii_field when i did a tour of duty as a perversely purposeless employee of university, the cellar below my office, one flight of steps down, was a dns root serv. peculiarly well-guarded and fortified for something so low-traffic (root dns servs get used hardly ever) [15:34]
mircea_popescu myeah. [15:35]
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ascii_field it was the one part of the grounds where one could not wander at will [15:35]
ascii_field multiple doors, each opened with fancy electric keys, etc. [15:35]
mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/0RQRMWD << "domainers". because you know, thewhet exists. [15:35]
assbot dpaste: 0RQRMWD ... ( http://bit.ly/1IkyoNL ) [15:35]
ascii_field ^ i get these regularly [15:36]
mircea_popescu this is a business now. derps actually hope to make money out of this. someone might care about domain names still, because they did pre 2001, because dotcom people were idiots [15:36]
mircea_popescu i hope they're sending google proposals for muggle [15:36]
ascii_field these schmucks bought up hundreds of thousands of 'valuable' domains. naturally they will try to monetize before fellating their pistols [15:37]
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mircea_popescu heh. [15:37]
mircea_popescu the part i like best is the scamconferences they organise where they go to spend a coupla days in alt.universe where HUGE DEALS happen and stupidity is "an industry" [15:37]
trinque godaddy is now valued at what, 4 billion "dollars"? [15:38]
mircea_popescu their yearly total gross attained 1% of yearly expenditure in no year since 2001. [15:38]
mircea_popescu trinque godaddy makes money. [15:38]
mircea_popescu unlike pretty much anyone, including google and facebook/ godaddy is like apple. [15:38]
trinque huge revenue, pretty slim profit; I'm looking it up [15:39]
trinque dunno how you burn that much cash selling an imaginary product [15:40]
trinque this I guess is how usg creates jobs [15:40]
trinque :p [15:40]
mircea_popescu was discussed here. that ho being their "image" what's her name ? [15:40]
ascii_field trinque: easy. they're the only registrar with tv ads [15:40]
mircea_popescu right. the bitpay "method", except they're doing out of their own money. [15:40]
ascii_field their business model is unabashedly populistic-chumpatronic [15:40]
mircea_popescu trying to be fucking aol over here, huge corp with by far shittiest product. [15:41]
mircea_popescu luckily, the 80s are long gone, and this strat simply does not work. [15:41]
mircea_popescu kinda not bodes well for government, either, this state of affairs. [15:41]
trinque ascii_field: yep, you too can have your very own 'website'! [15:42]
ascii_field works great. sell joe the alcoholic bomzh 'joethealcoholicbomzh.com' for ten bux [15:42]
trinque post-dot-com business in a box [15:42]
mircea_popescu ascii_field except the last perso who bought was later indicted for terrorist bombmaking. [15:42]
mircea_popescu and that was three years ago. [15:42]
mircea_popescu kinda hard to call this "works" [15:42]
* trinque has trouble seeing the value in something that continues to lose money, but then, he's a simpleton [15:43]
mircea_popescu you gotta watch more don rickles. [15:43]
ascii_field http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc << anybody have experience with it ? [15:43]
assbot diet libc - a libc optimized for small size ... ( http://bit.ly/1IkzxVF ) [15:43]
mircea_popescu "i make a loss on every sale but hope to make it up on volume" [15:43]
trinque lol [15:44]
mircea_popescu ascii_field it's the other thing people use other than uclibc [15:44]
mircea_popescu seems iffier. [15:44]
ascii_field aha [15:44]
ascii_field but unlike uclibc, i have never used it. [15:44]
ascii_field uclibc - works. [15:44]
mircea_popescu it's more of a hipster crowd thing [15:44]
mircea_popescu better corners etc. [15:44]
ascii_field if weighs less - worth at least considering only on that merit alone [15:44]
ascii_field (but so far does not appear to be the case) [15:45]
mircea_popescu less than glibc. weighs about the same as uc [15:45]
ascii_field aha [15:45]
mircea_popescu give or take, but i'm not really crazy about the difference between 5% and 3% either way [15:45]
mircea_popescu as long as you shaved off the 95%, you've shaved. [15:45]
mircea_popescu ymmv. [15:45]
ascii_field was speaking of brain mass, rather than bytewise. [15:46]
mircea_popescu there's a correlation. [15:47]
ascii_field aha. but must remind readers that they are not one and the same. [15:47]
ascii_field (for pathologically degenerate case, see my fpga tale from conf-II) [15:48]
mircea_popescu lol [15:48]
nubbins` " The problem comes, I think, mainly from statically linking other GLIBC libraries, notably "libpthread"" <<< we're using that one [15:48]
Pierre_Rochard http://www.wsj.com/articles/in-silicon-valley-frenzy-vcs-create-new-inside-track-1427992176 << last time SPVs came up, it was subprime real estate [15:48]
assbot In Silicon Valley Frenzy, VCs Create New Inside Track - WSJ [15:48]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard it was, wans't it... [15:48]
mircea_popescu im kinda surprised "spvs" didn't get banned last time tbh. [15:48]
mircea_popescu OUR GREAT LEADER WAS SLAIN BY SOMETHING IN A ROUND BOX THINGEE! ROUNDBOX THINGEES ARE NOW BANNED!11 [15:49]
mircea_popescu "Pinterest board observer raised $200 million in three days to buy more shares—with startup’s blessing" << almost exactly different from how a ponzi is run, [15:49]
mircea_popescu for some values of "different". [15:50]
Pierre_Rochard my favorite was “Data analytics provider Palantir Technologies Inc., which was valued at $15 billion last September, turned to an SPV arranged by Founders Fund, a San Francisco firm headed by billionaire investors Peter Thiel, according to people familiar with the deal.” [15:51]
mircea_popescu aaanyways. it's a safe enough model for as long as inflation holds, because it's based on nominal figures. known as the hyperinflation debenture frenzy. [15:51]
Pierre_Rochard Peter Thiel is a co-founder of Palantir, convenient for him to arrange a deal! [15:51]
Pierre_Rochard yup [15:51]
ascii_field ^ for anyone who was living in a sealed bunker for the past few yrs, 'palantir' is one of the direct subcontractors to nsa panopticon wares [15:51]
ascii_field and actually thiel's main thing [15:52]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard oh, 21 closes ? [15:52]
mircea_popescu ascii_field myeah. [15:52]
ascii_field it is also perhaps the most comically named of them all [15:52]
ascii_field 'we serve the ultimate evil' loudly bragging, right in the name. [15:52]
Pierre_Rochard mircea_popescu: almost a month ago: http://www.wsj.com/articles/big-names-put-cash-in-bitcoin-startup-21-inc-1426029318 (haven’t heard from them since) [15:53]
assbot Big Names Put Cash In Bitcoin Startup 21 Inc. - WSJ [15:53]
ascii_field sorta like the skull on the ss uniform, but more so. [15:53]
mircea_popescu dude for all the pretense they put forth ... they've been gone for a month and i've not yet run into a mourning woman ? [15:53]
mircea_popescu wtf is this world where such great things can go out and not even a billion people show for the burial. [15:53]
mircea_popescu i was expecting better, world. [15:53]
mircea_popescu ascii_field hybris is its own sort of dementia. [15:54]
ascii_field http://www.digital-resistance.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/s-1.jpg << obligatory classic [15:54]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IkBd1r ) [15:54]
mircea_popescu generally, illness in humans is manifested as a contraction of the "presence bubble". you may sit in your bed thinking of things as far away as a continent, but the man in pain sees nothing past his nose. and the man in love, past HER nose. [15:55]
mircea_popescu mental disease is no different, diseased states are always narrower than sanity. [15:55]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: except that diseased state happily contracts the megalomania out to a hundred various 'mengeles' each of whom focuses on the insides of a particular variety of designated untermensch [15:56]
ascii_field and happily slices, slices [15:56]
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mircea_popescu sure. [15:56]
mircea_popescu it also doesn't work, necessarily. if it did, we wouldn't actually need bitcoin to solve the specific problems it solves. [15:57]
mircea_popescu ascii_field : https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2012-March/030285.html better linkage. [15:58]
ascii_field aha it [15:58]
mircea_popescu in which we find out that openssh does not wish to bestatic linked, and this by design. [15:58]
ascii_field ^ what i was trying to get across, yes [15:58]
mircea_popescu this, of course, was pre HB. now they might be more amenable. lol. [15:58]
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ascii_field aha lol, doubt it [15:59]
ascii_field if anything, the muppets are emboldened by the gotterdammerung which did not come [16:00]
mircea_popescu quite. [16:00]
mircea_popescu of course, the original was a fucking cycle of operas. [16:00]
mircea_popescu takes a while to get to the valkyries. [16:01]
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ascii_field http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/dell-support-software-gets-flagged-by-antivirus-program << the vuln is a few weeks old but this is lulzy [16:53]
assbot Dell support software gets flagged by antivirus program | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsHFLi ) [16:53]
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nubbins` "Guess we all know why theymos has been hanging out in the transvestite hangouts now. He's embezeld the forum donations to turn Bad Bears P into a V so he could be his B and he gave him admin privalges so you could come here to take out his frustrations after he rams it up his ass until he bleeds. " [17:24]
nubbins` HEH [17:24]
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ascii_field http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/is-it-legal-for-us-military-to-scan-the-publics-computers-for-kid-porn << unrelated lulz [17:42]
assbot Is it legal for US military to scan the public’s computers for kid porn? | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1DU8UUS ) [17:42]
ascii_field http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/man-beats-child-porn-rap-by-proving-accidental-downloading << related [17:44]
assbot Man beats child porn rap by proving unintentional downloading | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1aDzOoR ) [17:44]
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ascii_field mega-l0l >> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/facebook-fugitive-attached-gps-monitor-to-a-motorized-contraption [18:20]
assbot Facebook fugitive attached GPS monitor to a “motorized contraption” | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1xYtQsQ ) [18:20]
ascii_field '...sliced off his GPS ankle monitor and affixed it to a crudely built contraption in his rural New York residence "in order to give the appearance that he was still present and moving within his home."' [18:20]
* ascii_field always assumed these have tamper traps like the neck-bombs from the film 'deadlock' [18:21]
ascii_field -- but evidently not ? [18:21]
BingoBoingo Maybe the assumption of a tamper trap is normally enough? [18:22]
ascii_field BingoBoingo: doesn't hold against competent victim [18:23]
ascii_field perhaps it is best to be thought a complete idiot, in this specific scenario. [18:23]
BingoBoingo Right, but if the designer of the trap isn't competent... [18:23]
ascii_field judge: 'I want Mr. Ceglia -- sir, you need to understand something about me. I have no compunction about taking people's parents' homes away and heaving them homeless on the street -- none whatsoever.' [18:25]
ascii_field 'THE COURT: As I said I am perfectly happy to bankrupt them. I am perfectly happy to take their real estate and to sell it, if that is what they choose. ' [18:25]
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mats .engineer domains can nao be rented for the low low cost of just $50,000 [19:33]
ascii_field i want '.lame' [19:34]
mats reverse.engineer can be had for $48,000 [19:35]
mats watta 'premium domain' [19:35]
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BingoBoingo http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--WSeI2wX6--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/keo46ag1wk6udbmagfhv.jpg [19:40]
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mats i chortled [19:50]
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lobbes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084982 << Why ridiculous? Wealth is good, no? Or are you saying that amassing large amounts of currency is pointless in a 'post-industrial' world. [20:05]
assbot Logged on 02-04-2015 21:17:32; mircea_popescu: might as well make your strategy "to get really really fat" [20:05]
lobbes Or is it simply: "Don't make yourself a target for usg" ? [20:05]
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lobbes Surely wealth alone is not enough, but it does allow some 'power' does it not? Either way, I'm just some schmuck aspiring to wealth. Not sure how much I'm qualified to speak on such things. [20:11]
lobbes Anyway, I got some reading to catch up on. As you were, logs [20:11]
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mod6 is there one specific site that you pay the .ar reciprocity fee? [20:38]
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mod6 if it's this site: https://reciprocidad.provincianet.com.ar/ [20:41]
assbot Provincia NET :: Reprocity Fee [20:41]
mod6 do i need to make a login id? [20:41]
mod6 guess i must [20:41]
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mats http://phrack.org/issues/66/10.html << 'malloc des-maleficarum', a classic [20:54]
assbot .:: Phrack Magazine ::. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DdNilV ) [20:54]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2015#1090151 << nothing the usg uses actually works. [21:00]
assbot Logged on 06-04-2015 21:16:42; ascii_field: -- but evidently not ? [21:00]
mircea_popescu it just sort-of works provided a) lemmings and b) some very basic nonsensical assumptions. [21:00]
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mircea_popescu but yes, ductape it on one of those robo vacuum cleanners... "nobody could have foreseen" [21:01]
mats https://sploitfun.wordpress.com/2015/02/10/understanding-glibc-malloc/ [21:02]
assbot Understanding glibc malloc | sploitF-U-N ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ct1SAJ ) [21:02]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2015#1090166 << as if a reverse engineer needs any further "branding" or advertising past the ability to do hisd work. [21:06]
assbot Logged on 06-04-2015 22:30:17; mats: reverse.engineer can be had for $48,000 [21:06]
mircea_popescu i don't think there was ever someone unemployed in that field, ever. [21:06]
mircea_popescu even fucking air traffic controllers have slumps, once or twice a century one's unemployed. maybe two if it's real bad. [21:07]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2015#1090172 << "focusing on yourself" and "getting real, real rich" is no different from seal focusing on itself and getting real, real fat. [21:08]
assbot Logged on 06-04-2015 23:00:36; lobbes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084982 << Why ridiculous? Wealth is good, no? Or are you saying that amassing large amounts of currency is pointless in a 'post-industrial' world. [21:08]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2015#1090176 << nope. wealth by itself, especially if you imagine cash is "wealth" , does not allow any power whatsoever. [21:13]
assbot Logged on 06-04-2015 23:06:50; lobbes: Surely wealth alone is not enough, but it does allow some 'power' does it not? Either way, I'm just some schmuck aspiring to wealth. Not sure how much I'm qualified to speak on such things. [21:13]
mircea_popescu just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road. [21:14]
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mod6 ok all set on the reciprocity fee. sorry for the bother. [21:45]
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BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/04/tewksbury-police-pay-ransom/ << scoop still somewhere other than here [21:54]
assbot Tewksbury Police Pay Ransom | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8h47y ) [21:54]
mircea_popescu mod6 wd [21:58]
mircea_popescu peterl too [21:58]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell peterl yo, there ? [21:59]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:59]
mircea_popescu "There is no total figure available for the total cost inflicted by the multi agency investigation though $19,604 was paid to Delphi Technology Solutions, the firm which handled the ransom payment for Tewksbury. " [22:00]
mircea_popescu this pretty much explains how the thing work. "in order to pay 500 bux to terrorists we must first pay 20k to our own people!" [22:00]
funkenstein_ cyberlocker not only helped their security but also boosted GDP [22:01]
Vexual 20k guys must have had negotiation privilege [22:01]
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mircea_popescu i suppose as the dea goes bankrupt the ex-dea agents move on to helping local police "fight terrorism" at the rate of 20k for every .5k paid out [22:02]
mircea_popescu biznis is biznis. [22:02]
funkenstein_ now that they've seen a real one they can start faking them [22:02]
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Vexual http://www.american-buddha.com/3AMIGOS-9b.jpg [22:03]
BingoBoingo I wonder how many petty traffic, weed, and misdemeanor tickets would have been unprosecutable if they didn't pay the people to pay the turroristas [22:06]
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mircea_popescu heh. [22:08]
mircea_popescu something they couldn't even legally do, which is why they had to bring in delphi for 20k. [22:08]
mircea_popescu more on point : i wonder how many people didn't have to pay their tickets because had intelligent lawyer who disputed chain of custody claims of police. [22:08]
mircea_popescu those documents are probatively worthless now anyway. [22:09]
BingoBoingo I wonder if the cheiftain did math on fines they's collect on vs. Delphi's bill [22:09]
mircea_popescu unless nobody contests it, of course. [22:09]
BingoBoingo It doesn't even really take an intelligent lawyer. [22:09]
BingoBoingo From the Dpt. of US Satellite States https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB7RD6xUIAAlm8i.jpg [22:13]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8k3gb ) [22:13]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ... as if a reverse engineer needs any further "branding" or advertising past the ability to do hisd work << it is entirely possible to be under- or even un-employed, or mal-employed (substitute appropriate term..?) in any profession, and yes, even that one [22:13]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ... wealth by itself, especially if you imagine cash is "wealth" , does not allow any power whatsoever << i am astonished that this needed to be elaborated. any 'wealth', lacking that other element, can be separated from the 'owner' and his earthly bones by the folks who have both [22:15]
mircea_popescu "i have an army, it's all castles, unmanned" [22:15]
mircea_popescu "srsly ? and where is this ?" [22:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform anything's possible. in this case tho, the discussion is whether it's possible without the subject's will. [22:17]
asciilifeform it is possible if subject is in sufficiently sticky glue trap [22:18]
mircea_popescu mebbe. [22:18]
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ben_vulpes *sigh* [22:28]
ben_vulpes good afternoon, serenissimists [22:28]
mircea_popescu good afternoon, worst jew. [22:30]
asciilifeform actually the record for 'worst jew' is probably mine [22:30]
* asciilifeform about half jew depending on how counted, but doesn't know a thing about jewing [22:30]
mircea_popescu can you do the hand thing ? [22:31]
asciilifeform hand thing? [22:31]
mircea_popescu you know, the eeeee-eeeh thing [22:31]
asciilifeform doesn't ring a bell [22:31]
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BingoBoingo http://libertybsd.net/ubiquiti/ << Incredilol [22:32]
ben_vulpes turns out the argentines want *translated* court documents demonstrating name change, *and* they want the translations *notarized* and they want the *notarized shit* bearing a apostille, which today i learned to be a thing. [22:32]
ben_vulpes this, i suppose, is what i get for being a us subject [22:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc9-rYBOS5w [22:33]
assbot seinfeld...."cause you got a Cadillac" - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8n6F3 ) [22:33]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: mega-lulz. i must admit that i never tried to use ubiquiti's linux in earnest [22:33]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It just sounds so much like the Pogo linux situation [22:33]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: l0l. i think it might be a new york thing [22:33]
mircea_popescu that's what i said. [22:34]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: like just about every 'gpl inside' thing ever. [22:34]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes your passport in a different name ?! [22:34]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: yeah i uh changed my passport to my new name [22:35]
mircea_popescu dude. does the thing have a picture of you in it ? [22:35]
ben_vulpes yessir. [22:35]
ben_vulpes but the entry fee is registered to the *old* passport. [22:35]
mircea_popescu so get a new one. [22:36]
ben_vulpes a new "reciprocity fee" document? [22:36]
* asciilifeform recalls that getting a passport in usa takes a rather long time. [22:36]
mircea_popescu yes. [22:36]
mircea_popescu it's fiddy bux or w/e it is, self-serve online. [22:37]
asciilifeform 200-ish iirc [22:37]
asciilifeform but yes, on their www [22:38]
mircea_popescu http://libertybsd.net/ubiquiti/ << i can't believe whoever wrote that seriously thinks linking to unitedagainstnucleariran.com bolsters whatever point they may wish to make. [22:38]
asciilifeform shits out a barcode to print [22:38]
ben_vulpes i know how to pay the reciprocity fee, jackholes [22:38]
ben_vulpes having. [22:38]
ben_vulpes already. [22:38]
ben_vulpes paid [22:38]
ben_vulpes it. [22:38]
mircea_popescu yes. well. visiting argentina will turn out to have been the largest expense of your namechange. [22:38]
mircea_popescu as absurd as that may sound. [22:38]
ben_vulpes i take some solace in the confusion it'll bring to my poor lizard obama agents. [22:40]
BingoBoingo http://libertybsd.net/ubiquiti/ << i can't believe whoever wrote that seriously thinks linking to unitedagainstnucleariran.com bolsters whatever point they may wish to make. << Oh, you caught the third layer lulz there. http://qntra.net/2015/03/private-lawsuit-dismissed-because-of-state-secrets-privilege/ [22:40]
assbot Private Lawsuit Dismissed Because of State Secrets Privilege | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8onvQ ) [22:41]
mircea_popescu "That's why I decided to make a "deblobbed" version of OpenBSD." [22:41]
mircea_popescu guy's nice and all, but... [22:41]
mircea_popescu safepay btc ads ? srsly ? [22:41]
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BingoBoingo Thing seems to be mega crankbait impersonating legit crank [22:44]
mircea_popescu how many entries are there between index 46 and 59 ? [22:45]
mod6 <+asciilifeform> shits out a barcode to print << yup. $160.00 USD for U.S. citizen [22:45]
mircea_popescu somehow 13 items became 14 wtf. [22:45]
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pete_dushenski heya everybody [22:55]
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ben_vulpes hola pete [22:55]
ben_vulpes ;seen thestringpuller [22:55]
ben_vulpes ;;seen thestringpuller [22:55]
gribble thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 15 hours, 7 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: ^- close the bet [22:55]
BingoBoingo ;;seen jurov [22:56]
gribble jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 3 hours, 19 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: yes [22:56]
BingoBoingo ;;seen dooglus [22:56]
gribble dooglus was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 43 weeks, 2 days, 20 hours, 59 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: and paragraphs [22:56]
BingoBoingo ;;seen Adlai [22:56]
gribble Adlai was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 6 hours, 32 minutes, and 1 second ago: ;;bc,stats [22:56]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [22:57]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes how goes the swamp battle to argentina ? [22:57]
gribble Current Blocks: 351040 | Current Difficulty: 4.944639068824144E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 352799 | Next Difficulty In: 1759 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 20 hours, 24 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48149916522.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -2.62198 [22:57]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu when reading older trilema articles, i notice the odd trackback to contravex, but not so much on the newer articles. are these getting stuck in your spam filter of late ? [23:05]
mircea_popescu it is possible. [23:05]
mircea_popescu do you get any sort of error message ? [23:05]
pete_dushenski nope. [23:06]
pete_dushenski come to think of it, the "bitcoinpete" links had a much higher success rate than contravex [23:06]
pete_dushenski as we know, wp sucks a donkey's cock, but it still seems odd that none are getting through these days [23:07]
pete_dushenski mebbe you don't want them, which'd be your call [23:07]
pete_dushenski but if it's just the filter then i thought i'd give you a heads up [23:07]
mircea_popescu lemme see here [23:08]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/how-to-fix-your-local-trackbacks/ << try that see what happens ? [23:09]
assbot How to fix your local trackbacks ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8t9K2 ) [23:09]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell funkenstein_ i'm assuming this is you ? http://frass.woodcoin.org/?p=66 [23:09]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:09]
assbot Altcoins: Why you need them | Free your Frass ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8thJj ) [23:09]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu that's what brings this up, but to be honest, your instructions are over my head! [23:11]
* pete_dushenski isn't smart enough to sling dope, it seems [23:11]
mircea_popescu like where ? [23:11]
pete_dushenski like at the most basic level [23:12]
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mircea_popescu lmao get out [23:14]
joecool :( [23:14]
pete_dushenski joecool me! [23:14]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu what, i've never traversed a database before [23:15]
pete_dushenski i was all excited when i first read the article, then soon realised that i had miles to go [23:16]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: while on the subject of trilema mechanics - what's 'dupa trompi' ? [23:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform trompi is a very common name for a cute small toy elephant. romanians have names for everything - for instance azorel is what a cartoon dog should be called ideally. [23:17]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://xkcd.com/1508 << as if made for you [23:17]
assbot xkcd: Operating Systems ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8uHng ) [23:17]
mircea_popescu this was elevated to divinity, a sort of fsm, by the people making the robotzi cartoons [23:17]
mircea_popescu and i received their revelation in my heart and have converted to the cult of the most reverable trompi, the divine. [23:17]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: lol [23:18]
mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBQAc6OAj9c << rain incantation. [23:18]
assbot Trompi da sa ploua - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8uU9S ) [23:18]
pete_dushenski "Nobody can move into bitcoin, take it over, change the protocol or do whatever nefarious thing you can imagine, and force everybody to continue using it. Why not? Because altcoin." << um. might need to check those premises again, funkenstein_ [23:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i have a kind of image of just this animal in my head. but not earthling elephant, but the creature from '5th elephant' who i think of as 'desk elephant', or, alternatively, 'lisp elephant' [23:18]
mircea_popescu could be, yeah [23:18]
mircea_popescu nobody saw trompi afaik [23:19]
mircea_popescu (the incantation literally is, "Trompi squeeze your balls and make it rain") [23:19]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski it may be the filter, i dunno. kinda impossibru to debug from my side. [23:20]
asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VTsFtwO0u0 [23:20]
assbot Choking on a Cherry - The Fifth Element (5/8) Movie CLIP (1997) HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8v9lf ) [23:20]
asciilifeform ^ what the elephant is for [23:20]
mircea_popescu "This video is not available. [23:20]
mircea_popescu Sorry about that." [23:20]
asciilifeform wat [23:20]
asciilifeform plays here [23:20]
mircea_popescu mebbe i need a repricocity phee. [23:21]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu aite, if it's not in your filter, it's not there. i guess we'll just have to blog platforms to the list of 'internet pillars to rebuild' [23:21]
mircea_popescu or just learn how to run basic scripts ? :D [23:21]
pete_dushenski mark my words, one day i will! [23:22]
asciilifeform !up Vexual [23:22]
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mircea_popescu it's not like the entire cookbook isn't actually given there eh ? ready for copy paste. [23:22]
mircea_popescu how are you going to play eulora at this rate ? beg jews to binarize it for you ? [23:23]
Vexual that'll be $35 [23:23]
asciilifeform 'Ubiquiti “demonstrated reckless disregard for U.S. sanction” law, and allowed its wireless equipment to be exported into Iran through distributors located in the United Arab Emirates and Greece, according to a release from the U.S. Office of Foreign Assets Control. The firm had no compliance program at the time, according to the release. And even after Ubiquiti learned that the transactions broke U.S. law, the company all [23:23]
asciilifeform owed them to continue for another year, until February 2011, OFAC said. The company said, in a filing released Thursday, that until early 2010 it didn’t prohibit its distributors from selling its products to Iran. After it learned of the potential violations, the company said that it failed to immediately ‘amend all its distribution agreements and to implement more robust compliance controls.’' [23:23]
asciilifeform ^ mega-l0l [23:23]
asciilifeform 'It said in its prospectus that certain of its products were sold to Iran, Cuba, Syria, the Sudan and North Korea and that some of its encryption components were sold without the appropriate export authorization… A review of Ubiquiti's sales to Iran by the Department of Commerce's Office of Export Enforcement earlier this year resulted in a warning letter, but no criminal or administrative prosecution or other penalties -- b [23:24]
asciilifeform ut Ubiquiti remains under review by the Department .... ' [23:24]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu i dun really game, so... [23:25]
asciilifeform of course, now we have a helpful recipe for determining whether it's a don't-give-a-fuck-shop or a usg honeypot - sue, and see if state secrets privilege is invoked... [23:25]
pete_dushenski but yes, this boy has much to learn. [23:26]
asciilifeform and, '...anyone with physical access to the end of the Ethernet cable to your Ubiquiti airOS-based device... ...can obtain the plain text configuration while leaving behind no trace that they dumped your configuration ...' [23:28]
asciilifeform ;;later tell decimation ^ iirc you were using a naked 'edgerouter' somewhere. the time to stop was - july. the second best time - now [23:29]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:29]
asciilifeform (what it was - they left tftp on. in precisely the way we won't in 'pogotron') [23:30]
asciilifeform ^ unless we're all killed & replaced with impersonators, l0l [23:30]
mircea_popescu what was nubbins` situation wit hthat btw [23:31]
asciilifeform in which case it will certainly ask for tftp every time on boot. [23:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: iirc he hammered in the command every time into the serial console [23:31]
mircea_popescu no i mean, he was cleaning boot iirc ? [23:31]
asciilifeform still saves time and wear on the nand vs flashing it in every time [23:31]
asciilifeform in a production machine, 'uboot' should skip straight to loading from nand [23:32]
asciilifeform 'do not pass go, do not collect 200' [23:32]
mircea_popescu myeah [23:32]
mircea_popescu so yesterday, i get http://trilema.com/2012/o-hai-i-was-justing-doing-a-penetration-test-of-your-site/#comment-113450 im all like wtf. [23:33]
assbot O hai. I was justing doing a penetration test of your site. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1aErKnM ) [23:33]
mircea_popescu today ... "For some reason or another, I can't see all of this content, it keeps disappearing? Are you taking advantage of java?" [23:33]
mircea_popescu finally spam text that looked credible. [23:33]
asciilifeform i get idiocy like this all the time. [23:34]
mircea_popescu i dun think i saw this set b4. [23:35]
asciilifeform they used to follow a similar pattern, e.g., 'this post is a very astute commentary on the subject, i should like to read another like it, please carry on the good work' etc. [23:35]
mircea_popescu those i saw [23:38]
mircea_popescu i mean the specific "error are you x" thing. [23:38]
mircea_popescu spam masquerading error reports nao, the world simply can't exist w/o wots. [23:39]
asciilifeform i am quite certain of having seen something quite like this before. and i knew that ~x [23:39]
asciilifeform and so ignored. [23:39]
asciilifeform 'From my conversations with Ubiquiti, I have found that they claimed that it's alright to refuse to provide source code to GPL-licensed software if "This decision was taken with the security of the users in mind". Furthermore, my conversations were endlessly delayed by the supposed necessity to forward my query to another, unnamed, team.' << now we can probably say what. [23:40]
mircea_popescu lol [23:40]
asciilifeform usg contractor supplying boobytrapped goodies to the untermenschen [23:40]
mircea_popescu "brb gotta ask nsa" [23:40]
asciilifeform ;;later tell decimation before you ceremonially burn that thing, or put openbsd on it, etc. consider posting the u-boot partition to #b-a warez (talk to kakobrekla?) [23:41]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:41]
mircea_popescu this strange idea that people would discuss things with script robots. [23:41]
mircea_popescu "if you conceivably have to forward my stuff to anyone, get off the line, i'm important." [23:41]
asciilifeform betcha the bots are happy to speak with one another. [23:42]
asciilifeform !s eliza parry [23:42]
assbot 4 results for 'eliza parry' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=eliza+parry [23:42]
asciilifeform http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/06/when-parry-met-eliza-a-ridiculous-chatbot-conversation-from-1972/372428 etc [23:42]
assbot When PARRY Met ELIZA: A Ridiculous Chatbot Conversation From 1972 — The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8yDEq ) [23:42]
mircea_popescu certainly. most of gdp in the "service economy" is exactly akin to running a bunch of elizas at each other. [23:42]
mircea_popescu "they raised awareness" [23:42]
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asciilifeform PARRY: You should pay more attention. [23:43]
asciilifeform ELIZA: Suppose you should pay more attention. [23:43]
asciilifeform PARRY: You're entitled to your own opinion. [23:43]
asciilifeform ELIZA: What makes you think I am entitled to my own opinion? [23:43]
Vexual http://www.torontosun.com/2015/04/06/botox-doctor-reportedly-devastated-by-martin-short-parody-found-dead [23:44]
Vexual best one wins [23:44]
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mircea_popescu why not link http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc439 ? [23:45]
assbot RFC 439 - PARRY encounters the DOCTOR ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8z8yg ) [23:45]
mircea_popescu theatlantic spamsite adds exactly nothing, hinders plenty. [23:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: neato, had no idea it lived there [23:46]
asciilifeform though i hesitate to let ietf be a canonical copy of anything at this point - even this... [23:46]
* assbot gives voice to decimation [23:46]
decimation asciilifeform: heh, I'm not sure if I'm running 'airos' on my edgerouter [23:46]
asciilifeform decimation: iirc they all use the same uboot, which was the item in question [23:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform sure. but it is the historical repository. [23:47]
asciilifeform yes. [23:47]
decimation asciilifeform: ah so does it only tftp on boot? [23:48]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the ubiquiti example dovetails nicely with the thread re: unemployed reversers. if persians happily buy turdware, they either haven't many, or haven't any competent ones, or they are all occupied with something else (what ?) [23:48]
asciilifeform decimation: it is a very common setting in a uboot used for dev work [23:48]
mircea_popescu they haven't any. [23:48]
Vexual you know, when i saw it first, i thought it was meant to be glenn stevens [23:49]
asciilifeform decimation: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000050.html [23:49]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8zHrV ) [23:49]
asciilifeform ^ example [23:49]
mircea_popescu you think there exists anyone competent working in argentina, for instance ? [23:49]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not necessarily. but perhaps ar doesn't -need- any ? [23:49]
decimation asciilifeform: http://www.theamphour.com/243-an-interview-with-macrofab-macro-manufacturing-mechanization/ < interview with macrofab guys, with details of exactly what they use (Universal GSM2 pick n place) [23:49]
assbot #243 – An interview with Macrofab – Macro Manufacturing Mechanization | The Amp Hour Electronics Podcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8zMMq ) [23:49]
asciilifeform because the only industry is meat processing ? [23:49]
mircea_popescu yeah, right. do you know what the fat feminist said to the other fat feminist ? [23:49]
mircea_popescu "good thing we don't need men" [23:49]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i thought the pattern was, 'don't need men, only their dough' ? [23:50]
mircea_popescu no, it's, "because if we did or if we didn't, we still don't get any" [23:50]
Vexual despite the botox, still very expressive [23:50]
mircea_popescu because, there's like eight of them, and none of them have time for our stupid shit. [23:50]
mircea_popescu such as you know, apostiles, or whatever. allah on a stick. [23:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: fact remains, they could get reversers. it's just another kind of craftsman, like heart surgeon. they would simply have to pay the fee [23:51]
asciilifeform with extra pay for jungle conditions [23:51]
mircea_popescu no, they could not. [23:51]
mircea_popescu just like ohio can't get dramatic artists. [23:51]
mircea_popescu just like tewkwhatever, mass can't get security experts. [23:52]
* assbot removes voice from Vexual [23:52]
pete_dushenski http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/31908620 << this, is a new one for me [23:53]
assbot BA flight forced to land early because of smelly poo - BBC Newsbeat ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8Aj0I ) [23:53]
pete_dushenski "it's too smelly to fly" [23:53]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: is it because most folks need fallback employment if a job falls through? sure - but if a craftsman is needed badly, he will go on tour to antarctica. so long as the costs are covered. [23:53]
pete_dushenski um, how about you suck it up and keep going [23:53]
asciilifeform and why does a reverse engineer need to travel anyway [23:53]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform only if im inviting him. [23:53]
mircea_popescu not if the fucking polar bears are. [23:54]
mircea_popescu why would he care what polar bears say ? [23:54]
asciilifeform if polar bears had a bag of money ? [23:54]
mircea_popescu so what if they did. [23:55]
mircea_popescu hunter'd get it. [23:55]
decimation ^ why? because you don't want to ship your strange [23:55]
ben_vulpes chapter two in assquest: [23:56]
ben_vulpes "navigate the buildroot menuconfig" [23:56]
asciilifeform decimation: this, among other reasons, is why i live in a particular not altogether-pleasant place.. [23:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform understand, nobody's denying men will go to the end of the earths. they will. but only with fredericus. [23:56]
decimation asciilifeform: ugh, the ubquiti os has hardly any tools [23:57]
asciilifeform decimation: pull the usb drive [23:57]
asciilifeform decimation: it has the whole orchestra, minus a very small and possibly interesting micro-bootloader that loads uboot - iirc - on it [23:58]
decimation but then I would need a mips64 build host [23:58]
decimation I guess I can qemu [23:58]
asciilifeform or hm, uboot is in the nor flash... [23:58]
* asciilifeform gets out the serial cable, indignant [23:59]
decimation yeah, I'm not sure where to probe [23:59]
asciilifeform motherfuckers. [23:59]
ben_vulpes perhaps i am behind the times, but is there a buildroot config that's been passed around? [23:59]
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