Forum logs for 05 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

mircea_popescu	Sorry! Gfy's are 15 seconds max! This video is 86.00 seconds. Think simple, jiffy, and captivating!	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	awww!	[00:01]
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mircea_popescu	!up CryptoGoon	[00:02]
-assbot-	You voiced CryptoGoon for 30 minutes.	[00:02]
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CryptoGoon	Hi	[00:02]
CryptoGoon	Lol	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	ello	[00:02]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i can convert...	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform if you can cut a good <15s spot i'd like it	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	if not ima just ul the 86s thing as is.	[00:04]
asciilifeform	1sec	[00:04]
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jurov	i got into PM with ninjashogun and last thing before i lost it was	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	"But the file size is so high. Anyway to reduce the file size without compramising quality. My video file mostly contains texts " << idiot on stack exchange.	[00:07]
jurov	we don't have to discuss that. But you have to realize that the files aren't considered private/secret, if the usage case includes signing at public computers	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	definitely, the format for "texts" is video x.x	[00:07]
jurov	"signing at public computers"	[00:07]
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mircea_popescu	guy lives in his own space.	[00:08]
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kakobrekla	singing at public computer	[00:08]
kakobrekla	i have done that, even in front of public people	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	i used to drink public water	[00:09]
mats_cd03	so when will there be preorders for a cardano?	[00:11]
mats_cd03	or is that not going to be a thing.	[00:11]
jurov	!bash 3	[00:11]
assbot	Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3S8VR5T.txt )	[00:11]
mats_cd03	=[	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	well once asciilifeform is done building his own city over there...	[00:12]
*	asciilifeform never grokked point of preorders. selling gizmos you don't have in stock ~= sc4mz0r1ng	[00:13]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: which 15 seconds would you like?	[00:14]
asciilifeform	it converts fine here	[00:14]
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mircea_popescu	i dunno	[00:14]
asciilifeform	i can even stuff the whole thing in a gif.	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	yeah but what size gif ?	[00:15]
asciilifeform	a very heavy one.	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	listen i just made it into a 30mb avi, it'kll be good enuff	[00:17]
asciilifeform	hah it worked	[00:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12583 @ 0.00074461 = 9.3694 BTC [-]	[00:18]
asciilifeform	5meg ~= 1st 20 sec.	[00:18]
asciilifeform	http://64.85.171.71/lathe_anim.gif	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/	[00:19]
assbot	No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	that's a nice convertor, what is it ?	[00:19]
asciilifeform	nm off by decimal place	[00:19]
asciilifeform	50m	[00:19]
asciilifeform	fuggedaboutit	[00:19]
asciilifeform	ffmpeg	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	sweet.	[00:20]
asciilifeform	bog-standard.	[00:20]
asciilifeform	(all 50m uploaded in case anyone wants this for something, can't picture why)	[00:20]
jurov	in 200years it will be reenacted religiously every sunday	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	haha	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	a lathing church, now that'd be something	[00:22]
*	asciilifeform actually recalls some sf universe with religion involving lathes, but can't put finger on precisely where	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[00:27]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 330.76, Best ask: 331.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 331.0, 24 hour volume: 28406.61823679, 24 hour low: 322.04, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0	[00:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6891 @ 0.00074601 = 5.1408 BTC [+]	[00:36]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/	[00:37]
[]bot	Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 41Bn before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1050/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 20.15235445 BTC. Current weight: 25,299.	[00:39]
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decimation	amusing http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/536/the-secret-recordings-of-carmen-segarra << some derpy latina with moxy joins the fed, is assigned to goldman, and is shocked to discover that the fed is composed of spineless twerps	[00:50]
assbot	The Secret Recordings of Carmen Segarra \| This American Life	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	what's moxy	[00:51]
asciilifeform	chutzpah ?	[00:51]
decimation	;;ud moxie	[00:52]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moxie \| Moxie (mok'see)n. Something or someone posessing the attribute of "coolness" or having "balls." The next word most likely to be stolen by Paris Hilton and then ...	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	ah moxie	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	so basically, private manning of the nyfed ?	[00:52]
mats_cd03	asciilifeform: ah well, see it as a perk of the faith people have in your ability to deliver.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	hey, at least they're regulating bitcoin. because that's a safe move :D	[00:53]
asciilifeform	mats_cd03: which 'it' ?	[00:53]
asciilifeform	mats_cd03: (i must've missed something)	[00:53]
decimation	she released 'secret tapes' of her conversations with other fed employees & goldman	[00:54]
mats_cd03	asciilifeform: preorders.	[00:54]
asciilifeform	aha	[00:54]
*	asciilifeform (re: tapes) immediately shrugs, 'the goodstuff, if any, must've been snipped, ...' etc.	[00:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00074457 = 13.3278 BTC [-] {2}	[00:55]
decimation	One episode - her boss "Mike Silva" was about to go to a meeting where Goldman was going to buy the shady assets of a Spanish bank - and it required the Fed's "no objection" "And one of the things that caught Carmen’s eye was a short paragraph that the banks had written into the agreement. It said that Goldman had to notify the Fed about the Santander deal and obtain a quote,“no objection.""	[00:55]
asciilifeform	and a nailgun is being oiled somewhere (assuming whole thing isn't a hangout)	[00:56]
decimation	"Mike Silva: My own personal thinking right now is that we’re looking at a transaction that’s legal but shady. I want to put a big shot across their bow on that. Poking at it, maybe we find something even shadier than we already know. So let’s poke at this thing, let’s poke at it with our usual poker faces, you know. I’d like these guys to come away from this meeting confused as to what we think about it. I want to keep	[00:56]
decimation	thennervous."	[00:56]
thickasthieves	i listened to the npr thing, honestly the soundbytes didnt seem that bad	[00:57]
thickasthieves	i can see how capture is a problem though	[00:58]
decimation	Later in the meeting with Goldman, here's his "poking to make them nervous": "Mike Silva Just to button up one point. I know the term sheet called for a notice to your regulator. The original term sheet also called for expression of non-objection, sounds like that dropped out at some point, or...?	[00:58]
decimation	Jake Bernstein: That’s everything he says on the topic in this meeting."	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	anyone with even a modicum of experience in the field can tell you that this sort of "sheperded proof" is pretty much useless.	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	not so unlike trying to audit the activity of diplomats.	[01:00]
decimation	well, since it is fed policy to keep all meetings with banks secret, I guess only a few know the reality	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	this is not something the plebs can do.	[01:00]
decimation	agreed, but it's not like one needs substantial evidence to imagine that usg employees are derpy bureaucrats who kowtow to people who make literally 10x their salary	[01:00]
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*	asciilifeform suspects that, as with soviet bureaucrats, salary is only small part of the compensation package.	[01:02]
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decimation	asciilifeform: The traditional method of 'cashing out' is to take a job with the regulator's target after a few years to establish bona fides	[01:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.13422671 = 1.6107 BTC [-] {9}	[01:04]
decimation	at any rate, I doubt that these fed employees carry much weight anyway, because someone in goldman can make a phone call to their boss's boss's boss and work out whatever deal needs to be made	[01:05]
asciilifeform	observation was not about weight they might carry in their domain, but in ordinary life	[01:06]
asciilifeform	e.g., what happens if a 'fed' minion (in good standing) appears in court, with a 'plebe' accuser (or plaintiff) ?	[01:07]
asciilifeform	do 'civil forfeiture' actions ever succeed against them? or magicked away ?	[01:07]
asciilifeform	etc.	[01:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12138 @ 0.00074632 = 9.0588 BTC [+] {2}	[01:08]
asciilifeform	(more in that vein: are the tax authorities permitted to harass them, as if they were mortals? or need permission first.)	[01:08]
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decimation	ah, well that happened after the above Mr. Silva fired the latina with moxie: "In the statement the Fed sent us last week, they say, quote, “The decision to terminate Ms. Segarra’s employment with the New York Fed was based entirely on performance grounds, not because she raised concerns as a member of an examination team about any institution.” In the spring, a judge threw Carmen’s suit out saying the law Carmen sued the Fed	[01:09]
decimation	under did not apply in this case"	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	decimation i don't get why bureaucrats shouldn't kowtow.	[01:10]
decimation	asciilifeform: re: tax authorities << http://www.govexec.com/defense/2014/07/millions-tax-debt-wont-stop-you-qualifying-pentagon-security-clearance/89831/	[01:12]
assbot	Millions in Tax Debt Wont Stop You from Qualifying for a Pentagon Security Clearance - Defense - GovExec.com	[01:12]
asciilifeform	millions - won't. thousands - will.	[01:13]
decimation	well, I suspect the 'right people' (ie friends and family of the SES crowd) meet the criteria	[01:14]
decimation	mircea_popescu: well it is likely the case that the goldman people are the 'betters' of the usg employees in many ways	[01:14]
mircea_popescu	at least the fraction thereof that didn't start life by working for the fed.	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	or w/e, "in an ideal world".	[01:15]
decimation	generally those that 'start in the fed' are going to be given 'make-work' jobs anyway, because it is known that their use was delivering usg decisions, not having skills	[01:16]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[01:16]
mircea_popescu	not really as clear cut i dun thin	[01:16]
asciilifeform	how much does that particular bureaucracy actually make decisions, in whatever sense, and how much just provides 'institutionalizing spraypaint' for decisions made by actual human somewhere in the loop ?	[01:17]
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decimation	asciilifeform: I suspect mainly the latter is the case	[01:20]
asciilifeform	;;google this sucker could go down	[01:21]
gribble	Bush On Economy: "This Sucker Could Go Down" - Business Insider: ; Talks Implode During a Day of Chaos; Fate of Bailout Plan Remains ...: ; Warren Buffett: I Have Greater Appreciation of Pres. Bush's Handling ...: (1 more message)	[01:21]
decimation	asciilifeform: in the beginning the 'boss' says this about his tenure on the staff of Tim Geithner during the 2008 'crisis':"	[01:23]
decimation	Mike Silva: And when I realized that nobody had any idea how to respond to that, I went into the bathroom and threw up. Because I realized this is it, it’s just this small group of people, and right now at this moment we have no clue. I never want to get close to that moment again"	[01:23]
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mircea_popescu	lol that moment never left.	[01:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00074428 = 5.5077 BTC [-] {2}	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	osama took care of the people that could have sorted it out, back in 2001.	[01:25]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bank-of-portugal-concerned-about-bitcoin-atm-launch/	[01:37]
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kakobrekla	;;bc,stats	[01:39]
gribble	Current Blocks: 323851 \| Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 \| Next Difficulty In: 724 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 20 hours, 37 minutes, and 2 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 34362802496.0 \| Estimated Percent Change: -0.86154	[01:39]
xanthyos	karlpilkington: there is no universe, only galactic corporations	[01:50]
xanthyos	physicist dr michio kakobrekla	[01:50]
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kakobrekla	that guy is what you get if you mix arthur c clarke and oprah	[01:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00074819 = 9.7639 BTC [+]	[01:52]
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bounce	so instead of electing two people essentially on how much money they spend on campaigning then have them wheel in an administration full of cronies and toadies and campaigners and contributors and whoever else they could drag out of their regular watering holes, how about... picking a bunch of randoms out of a big pile of candidates and telling them to sort it out on pain of... oh, a suitably large bond put up, up front?	[02:04]
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decimation	;;ticker	[03:20]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 327.5, Best ask: 328.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 328.0, 24 hour volume: 28801.57254709, 24 hour low: 322.04, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0	[03:20]
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decimation	!up justanotheruser	[03:22]
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justanotheruser	hi	[03:22]
kakobrekla	hi	[03:23]
decimation	hello! what brings you here?	[03:23]
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justanotheruser	was directed here to listen to someone talk	[03:23]
decimation	ah well this would be the place. I suggest reading the logs at log.bitcoin-assets.com if you are curious	[03:24]
justanotheruser	thanks	[03:25]
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ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: no sir i do not	[03:38]
ben_vulpes	remember how i was lamenting abandoning my m.e. toolchain for computers?	[03:38]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/msigna-bitcoin-wallet-to-debut-this-weekend/	[03:44]
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ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: can't say as i know why your cutoff tool's doing that to the piece. the mark looks like an overheating of either workpiece or cutting tool, but the geometry indicates that it was spiraling in on a single pass.	[03:57]
ben_vulpes	i'd expect you to not be cutting so deep on a single pass (if your tooling even supported it) (due to apparently having a working understanding of machining limitations), which implies some crazy connection between out of true-ness of the workpiece maybe?	[03:59]
ben_vulpes	but even that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.	[03:59]
ben_vulpes	sometimes one just sees weird marks on the finished pieces - typically, one programs in a light finishing cut with a sharp tool to keep qa "engineers" from failing the piece on visual inspection.	[04:00]
ben_vulpes	also the geometry's a bit weird for a single-pass cut, which reduces the likelihood.	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	tl;dr: I DUNNO MANG	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	engineering response: "depends"	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	oh lol hand machined slave collars	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	so i helped with a wide-bore bearing one time	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	http://psas.pdx.edu/lv2cspincan/	[04:02]
assbot	lv2cspincan	[04:02]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: there's a market for single-piece metal collars? aren't the leather ones flexible by design?	[04:03]
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ben_vulpes	jurov, hi. I'm actually a startup founder << oh look, i pin the tail on the recruiter donkey and the original spamgun shows up in an effort to lend credence to the notion that they're seperate entities	[04:05]
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ben_vulpes	imm prolly usg covert << no mp is usg covert	[04:07]
ben_vulpes	(more in that vein: are the tax authorities permitted to harass them, as if they were mortals? or need permission first.) << usg employees are notoriously immune to "mistakes" on their filings.	[04:12]
ben_vulpes	http://otakugangsta.com/image/99115327495	[04:14]
assbot	OTAKU GANGSTA : Photo	[04:14]
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decimation	ben_vulpes: single-piece collars as in no hinge?	[04:30]
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decimation	re: usg officials with 'immunity' : http://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/exclusive-family-business-at-the-national-security-agency	[04:32]
assbot	Wife: NSA Official. Husband: Exec At Firm Seeming To Do Or Seek Business With NSA	[04:32]
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decimation	ben_vulpes: that's a neat rocket assembly	[04:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.01060006 = 0.848 BTC [-] {7}	[04:41]
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asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: those adult-sized tools are glorious.	[05:57]
*	asciilifeform doesn't even own an indexer yet...	[05:58]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes lifetime slavegirls have little use for leather collars.	[06:11]
mircea_popescu	for one thing, you can't really shower with one.	[06:11]
*	asciilifeform recommends inconel - theoretically good for a millenium or three in salt water	[06:11]
mircea_popescu	nah, copper compounds aren't tolerated well by the skin.	[06:12]
mircea_popescu	silver alloys, especially silversteel.	[06:12]
asciilifeform	precious little cu in there	[06:12]
mircea_popescu	don;t take much. all cu oxides are poisony.	[06:13]
asciilifeform	and it does its job precisely by refusing to react with just about anything, esp. at st.	[06:13]
asciilifeform	stp	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	o wait this is the ni-chromium thing nm	[06:13]
asciilifeform	see also 'hastelloy'.	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	my bad	[06:14]
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mthreat	damn I want to buy an L-39 jet. http://www.l39.com/content/faq	[06:15]
assbot	FAQ \| L-39 Enthusiasts	[06:15]
penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptocoinsnews-is-anything-but/	[06:16]
mircea_popescu	imm prolly usg covert << no mp is usg covert << no u	[06:18]
cazalla	more like convert amirite	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	pervert, anyway.	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	cazalla btw, wow on your killing it with that thing.	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	you gonna keep this 10 a day rythm ?	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	because if you do you win.	[06:20]
cazalla	time will tell i guess	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	a good third of why trilema is so powerful is that i goddamn post.	[06:20]
decimation	for me titanium works well on my skin	[06:23]
decimation	but it's difficult to machine obviously	[06:23]
mircea_popescu	titanium is usually cast afaik	[06:23]
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decimation	avoid nickel. platinum works for me too but a bit pricey :)	[06:24]
mircea_popescu	not really that pricey. you wouldn't want more than a couple of ounces given that weight harms tissue	[06:25]
mircea_popescu	and a couple of ounces aren't that much of a fortune	[06:25]
asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/R4EbgZN	[06:27]
assbot	police show. - Imgur	[06:27]
asciilifeform	^ actual show in my town	[06:27]
decimation	platinum also develops a neat grayish patina	[06:28]
decimation	asciilifeform: one wonders why the police need a .50 cal rifle	[06:28]
asciilifeform	i asked	[06:29]
asciilifeform	policeman helpfully explained, that it was decreed that they must have a few in order to stop cars...	[06:29]
asciilifeform	maintained that it has never been put to this use yet.	[06:29]
asciilifeform	and pointed out that if i want one, it can be bought for about 5k usd.	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	how is a .5 rifle stop cars ?	[06:29]
asciilifeform	same way you stop airplane with it	[06:30]
asciilifeform	(a round through the radiator, most practically)	[06:30]
decimation	I know a few private citizens that own full-auto machine guns	[06:30]
mircea_popescu	so wait, you stop the car coming at you ?	[06:31]
decimation	you need to fill out the right forms and have someone with a note from Stalin give you leave	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	afaik the ballistic car stopers is shooting the tires. which can be done with a bb gun really	[06:31]
asciilifeform	decimation: and pay 50K+ usd	[06:31]
decimation	as I recall it was also a couple $$ per shell	[06:31]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: afaik they are forbidden to shoot at the tires - it results in an out-of-control spin, demolishes unrelated cars	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	and blowing up the cylinders does not ?	[06:32]
cazalla	BingoBoingo, i'm not so sure about that new background colour	[06:32]
asciilifeform	why would it ?	[06:32]
decimation	for the purposes of police, it would seem much more practical to use 'stop strips'	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	i dunno dood, jagged bits of hot metal going any which way	[06:33]
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decimation	I doubt any political figure in the dc area is going to allow someone to fire a small cannon at a criminal	[06:33]
asciilifeform	there was also a chopper, several $mil, according to its keeper. fitted with 100k ir camera.	[06:33]
asciilifeform	according to the lecturer - can stay aloft for a whole 2 hours!	[06:34]
decimation	asciilifeform: human-piloted or otherwise?	[06:34]
asciilifeform	human	[06:34]
asciilifeform	tiny thing though, like a flying police car.	[06:34]
asciilifeform	seats four men	[06:34]
decimation	maryland state police used those eurocopter doulphins for awhile	[06:34]
asciilifeform	keeper lamented that it had no arms or armour	[06:34]
decimation	obligatory: https://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2012/09/17/massachusetts-state-police-new-helicopter/	[06:35]
assbot	Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Massachusetts State Police New Helicopter	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	lol flying police car	[06:35]
decimation	maryland was/is the only state that had a fully government owned/operated medivac system	[06:35]
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decimation	to take care of the 30k people who die per year on the roads, of course	[06:36]
asciilifeform	chopper specialist explained that his machine exists solely to search for people	[06:36]
decimation	I guess if you have a few $tn to blow every year you gotta have your manned people-search helicopters	[06:38]
asciilifeform	this was a county police dept.	[06:38]
asciilifeform	(not even state)	[06:38]
dub	sorry is this argument that you don't want to have your life saved by this service because tax?	[06:39]
mircea_popescu	"A posting every day; an interesting idea every three months…" not a bad byline	[06:39]
decimation	when I was living in maryland it struck me as very odd about how powerful the local counties were	[06:40]
asciilifeform	dub: the chopper (not in photo) does not evacuate, it was a kind of flying version of ordinary police car	[06:40]
dub	praps tehre should be a non-resuss clause inherent in being a libertard	[06:40]
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decimation	dub: I was implying that other localities get by with civilian pilots	[06:40]
mircea_popescu	dub the argument is that if you spend ten grand on an omlette when your entire weekly budged is 6k, people coming in to derp about how "so you don't want to eat" get a pie to the face.	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	here's yours.	[06:41]
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decimation	asciilifeform: I considered living in pg county once - until I realized how high the local property tax rates were	[06:44]
mircea_popescu	decimation you don;'t really have to own property to live there tho, do you ?	[06:45]
asciilifeform	decimation: these don't really get rolled into rent effectively, so i don't much care	[06:45]
dub	these wage numbers are terrifying	[06:45]
decimation	yeah this is a good point. I rent now and I'm reluctant to get back into the real estate bezzle world	[06:45]
joecool	decimation: NJ has had that since the 80's, just took delivery of 5 new helicopters in the past year or two	[06:45]
decimation	if you lived in say, bowie, you would have to pay nearly 2% per year	[06:46]
dub	someone instructing others in teh use of aircraft earns $50k?	[06:46]
asciilifeform	get back into << as for me, i was never in	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	this shit's epic.	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	http://nypost.com/2012/05/06/brutal-system-of-teen-beatings-continues-at-rikers-islands-rndc-prison/	[06:47]
assbot	Brutal system of teen beatings continues at Rikers Islands RNDC prison \| New York Post	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	"	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	AMONG THE VICTOMS: Eighteen-year-old Christopher Robinson (pictured) was killed in 2008 by thugs in "The Program", a brutal heiarchy which victomizes youths at Rikers Island including an imnate who was hospitalized for a broken jaw."	[06:47]
decimation	dub: piloting is an interesting chumpatron. most pilots earn peanuts, but they all hope to fly for the 'major' airlines and earn $300k per year	[06:47]
asciilifeform	;;google tournament market	[06:47]
gribble	The Man Who Wasn't There \| Science Careers: ; Excalibur Medieval Tournament & Market Faire - Arcata, CA ...: ; Five Keys to Marketing a New Soccer Tournament \| The PTM Blog: (1 more message)	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	sorry me'em, i cunt nit fuonds me vuwils	[06:47]
dub	sorry. a lot less, they take a break from earnign essentially nothing to go an earn an apparently desirable $50k	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	dub flying is a labour of love. what, you think mthreat hopes to make any sort of profit flying a jet for no reason ?	[06:48]
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decimation	http://willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot-salary/188/United-Airlines.html	[06:48]
assbot	United Airlines Pilot Pay Rates	[06:48]
dub	jesus	[06:49]
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decimation	http://www.cbsnews.com/news/four-female-prison-guards-impregnated-by-same-inmate/	[06:50]
assbot	Four female prison guards impregnated by same inmate - CBS News	[06:50]
mircea_popescu	aahahahaha	[06:50]
mircea_popescu	ok, great one.	[06:51]
asciilifeform	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSwz3Kl4xFw	[06:51]
assbot	PG Police robot demo - YouTube	[06:51]
asciilifeform	^ from same	[06:51]
decimation	of course only maryland can explain why they hire women to guard hardened gangsters	[06:51]
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mircea_popescu	so basically they were slavegirls	[06:52]
mircea_popescu	going by the tattooing	[06:52]
decimation	yes	[06:52]
mircea_popescu	this guy got me licked.	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	;;rate tavon 3 nigga's got the moves.	[06:53]
gribble	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	well, maybe one day.	[06:53]
decimation	there is something poetic about a prisoner literally impregnating the state's authority personified, and it says something about usg & friends	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	says more about the guy.	[06:53]
decimation	yes, he's no doubt a supreme 'alpha' type	[06:54]
decimation	baltimore isn't exactly known for its quality governance . watch "The Wire" if you wanna know the details	[06:55]
decimation	asciilifeform: that's a neat little two-wheel bot	[06:56]
asciilifeform	decimation: it costs, allegedly, $maxint	[06:57]
asciilifeform	(forget exact amount - 5 figures usd)	[06:57]
decimation	heh. I think it could be built for less than $500	[06:57]
decimation	that little bot seems more useful than a 0.50 cal rifle to a policeman. ideally, one could use it to 'scout' to see if "worst case swat team" is really required, rather than joe the constable	[06:59]
dub	less than $50 in bulk	[06:59]
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decimation	I suspect a majority of engineers working in the us feed their families on this business model	[07:00]
asciilifeform	also lecture concerned specifically the 'swat team'	[07:00]
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decimation	Well, if I were going to bust open a door, I would want to know what is behind it	[07:01]
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asciilifeform	http://atomictoasters.com/2014/06/q%C2%B3-sfsiwi-edition/#more-31867 << unrelated	[07:04]
assbot	Q: SFSIWI Edition : Atomic Toasters	[07:04]
decimation	lol looks like a good way to lose a finger	[07:05]
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decimation	btw here's the guy who likely wrote the bash bug: http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/	[07:08]
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asciilifeform	-and- 'readline' !?	[07:09]
decimation	hehe lock away your women	[07:09]
decimation	'gnu software': parsers written by derps who can't write parsers	[07:10]
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decimation	asciilifeform: what kind of bell must be rung to convince people that 'reviewing' the monstrous pile of C code (on the C-machine) modern software uses is not just difficult - it's impossible	[07:17]
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*	asciilifeform tried.	[07:18]
asciilifeform	what kind of bell must be rung to wake the dead?	[07:18]
asciilifeform	or at least to reanimate 'vegetables' ?	[07:18]
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decimation	I've been reading derpage in the media about how much money amazon & google make of the wintel/linux stack and how little they obviously look at the details of what they are building	[07:19]
decimation	inevitably there's going to be some usg 'dept of c-machine hygiene'	[07:20]
asciilifeform	that'd be... microshit.	[07:22]
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decimation	the vegetable analogy is incomplete - the 'vegetable' could get up and walk, or at least move its fingers, at any time	[07:22]
decimation	patient chooses to wallow in its vegetableness instead	[07:23]
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asciilifeform	the semiconductor folks could decide to produce non-braindamaged circuits also at any time.	[07:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 211 @ 0.12399059 = 26.162 BTC [-] {14}	[07:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.12117142 = 2.5446 BTC [-] {3}	[07:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1091 @ 0.00410419 = 4.4777 BTC [-] {8}	[07:43]
ben_vulpes	novelty, ohio	[07:52]
ben_vulpes	my sides	[07:52]
ben_vulpes	chetty: you wrote bash bug?!	[07:52]
ben_vulpes	:P	[07:52]
ben_vulpes	for one thing, you can't really shower with one. << gold necklace?	[07:53]
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The20YearIRCloud	Novelty?	[07:56]
ben_vulpes	mthreat: i creamed myself over the l39	[07:57]
ben_vulpes	but this pauper's gotta think smaller, like a 47: http://www.the47.com/	[07:58]
ben_vulpes	The20YearIRCloud: http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/	[07:59]
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ben_vulpes	;;gettrust themediator	[07:59]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user themediator: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=themediator \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=themediator \| Rated since: never	[07:59]
The20YearIRCloud	and who's chet?	[07:59]
ben_vulpes	well do some reading	[08:00]
ben_vulpes	grepping logs for the link in question will illuminate much	[08:01]
ben_vulpes	decimation: saauce?	[08:01]
mthreat	ben_vulpes: I had assumed the l-39 went for around $1M, but they actually go for $175k up to $500k depending on avionics, refurbishing, etc	[08:03]
mthreat	ben_vulpes: but operating cost... burns up to 160 gallons per hour. i think jet fuel is $5/gallon.	[08:04]
mthreat	actually it probably burns more than 160gallons/hour at full throttle	[08:05]
mthreat	http://www.warbirdalley.com/articles/l39pr.htm	[08:05]
assbot	Warbird Alley: L-39 Albatros Pilot Report	[08:05]
ben_vulpes	;;calc 160*5	[08:05]
gribble	800	[08:05]
mthreat	YEP	[08:05]
mthreat	oops	[08:05]
dub	thats a lot cheaper than your avg superyacht	[08:06]
The20YearIRCloud	mthreat - they're not expensive birds	[08:06]
The20YearIRCloud	I saw one that sold for something along the lines of $250k in full military gear	[08:07]
The20YearIRCloud	err wait, not the l39	[08:07]
mthreat	top speed about 500 mph	[08:07]
The20YearIRCloud	I'm thinking A-37 dragonfly	[08:07]
The20YearIRCloud	(One of my more favorite aircraft)	[08:07]
ben_vulpes	wait mph and aircraft	[08:08]
ben_vulpes	my tiny retarded brain just assploded	[08:08]
The20YearIRCloud	Some americans use mph, especially dealing with ww2 era aircraft	[08:09]
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mthreat	mach 0.8	[08:09]
ben_vulpes	might actually get somewhere for a grand in that thing	[08:22]
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mircea_popescu	%d	[17:15]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 305176.15 in 536 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.75	[17:15]
thickasthieves	5000btc wall at 300$, someone really doesnt wanna lose the bitbet	[17:17]
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mircea_popescu	!up jdany	[17:18]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[17:18]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 313.82, Best ask: 314.08, Bid-ask spread: 0.26000, Last trade: 314.07, 24 hour volume: 39060.58237394, 24 hour low: 301.0, 24 hour high: 350.0, 24 hour vwap: 326.651978774	[17:18]
thickasthieves	hey jdany	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	the risk when one tries to artificially depress a security is that he'll end up selling most of his load at the lowest price and then have to repay the borrow at the high price.	[17:19]
thickasthieves	jdany messaged me on bitcointalk asking why i left, i explained there was no reason to stay and that here is better	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	it's how the cornering of the silver market worked	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	thickasthieves ah i see	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	!up jdany_	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	welcome.	[17:19]
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mircea_popescu	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday << this being the tardpedia discussion on the topic.	[17:20]
assbot	Silver Thursday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	i will take it very personally if the actual financial collapse of the us is brought about by a manic attempt to chase losses in their failed attempts to maninpulate the btc price.	[17:21]
jdany_	Hey!	[17:22]
jdany_	Thanks Tat	[17:22]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[17:25]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 313.01, Best ask: 314.61, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 314.61, 24 hour volume: 38969.08891951, 24 hour low: 301.0, 24 hour high: 350.0, 24 hour vwap: 326.626642982	[17:25]
mircea_popescu	a .5% spread heh.	[17:25]
jdany_	I was wondering where some of the more active names were going...	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	so now you found it.	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	the log should provide ample reading material to catch up.	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	also there's a dedicated search function	[17:27]
mircea_popescu	!s tardstalk	[17:27]
assbot	30 results for 'tardstalk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tardstalk	[17:27]
mircea_popescu	can be used in pm with assbot as well.	[17:27]
jdany_	Yep. So, do you guys stay active in Havelock - or are there other securities that I don't have exposure to	[17:27]
thickasthieves	none of us use havelock anymore really	[17:28]
thickasthieves	and the only securities woth consideration are probably on mpex	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	i think The20YearIRCloud uses it	[17:28]
thickasthieves	oh yeha	[17:28]
thickasthieves	RENT might be legit	[17:28]
jdany_	Sour on Asicminer?	[17:28]
thickasthieves	although he did just lose a bunch of fiat for his fiat business	[17:28]
thickasthieves	me?	[17:29]
thickasthieves	i was sour for a long time on AM	[17:29]
jdany_	I was speaking generally	[17:29]
thickasthieves	board didnt seem capable of fixing so i left	[17:29]
jdany_	but, I assume you got shafted at some point with AM	[17:29]
thickasthieves	depends what you mean? did i sell all shares at absolute top, no?	[17:30]
thickasthieves	no.	[17:30]
thickasthieves	did i get skimmed for 90 or so shares lost in transfers, yes	[17:30]
mats_cd03	ouch	[17:31]
The20YearIRCloud	HASH is doing well too	[17:31]
jdany_	Everything with you happened very abruptly.	[17:31]
mircea_popescu	their retarded "we'll issue shares, but on glbse ; we'll keep the shares, but on our own ah-doc registry" was perhaps the most braindamaged piece of financial management ever displayed to the public.	[17:31]
mircea_popescu	it marginally beats even the wall street derps doing gauss copulae on excel spreadsheets	[17:31]
mats_cd03	http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/peter-thiel-wants-to-make-hackers-into-heroes.html lol	[17:32]
assbot	Peter Thiel Wants to Make Hackers Into Heroes -- NYMag	[17:32]
jdany_	I figured you get fed up, dumped and bailed	[17:32]
thickasthieves	mp yeha it got to a point where there were too many unique open cases and balancing the transfer books was impossible	[17:32]
mircea_popescu	"Name a science fiction movie in the last 25 years that shows technology in a positive light,” says Peter Thiel << anything made in asia ?	[17:32]
dub	tbh 'they' have continue to display a good level of brain damage	[17:32]
The20YearIRCloud	The matrix	[17:33]
The20YearIRCloud	It showed technology in a positive light, humans were finally unable to destroy gaia	[17:33]
jurov	transcendence or how it was called was rather positive about tech	[17:33]
thickasthieves	jdany_ leaving AM (and all bitcoin securities dealings) was something that took a few mos to prep and execute	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	matrix ? nah. the us anti-intellectualism fully at work : technology as the magic of the evil, desocialised, psychopathic dr evil.	[17:33]
thickasthieves	Neo dying just expedited it	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	"Tall and thin with close-cropped hair and ageless skin" what the motherfucking shit is wrong with these people.	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	who thinks anyone cares to hear about how thiel's skin is ?!	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	who reads nymag, nysexaddicts ?!	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	is this some sort of braindamged feminism run amok where they imagine that if they "microagress" the patriarchy by discussing thiel as if he were some made-to-fuck-once-and-discard popstarlet something's gonna happen ?	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	i mean, something other than chuckles at their expense ?	[17:36]
mats_cd03	elite worship is common	[17:41]
mircea_popescu	not in female terms.	[17:42]
mircea_popescu	his skin could be hellraiser's for all the difference it'd make to his life.	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	because he's not a woman.	[17:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00074602 = 25.3647 BTC [-] {2}	[17:45]
kakobrekla	the risk when one tries to artificially depress a security is that he'll end up selling most of his load at the lowest price and then have to repay the borrow at the high price. < way easier to default	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	if they end up defaulting because misjudged their strength and got head bit off by bitcoin i'll have the most satisfying wank conceivable by man	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	i'll prolly have a special lotion designed for the experience.	[17:47]
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kakobrekla	meh such default has zero weight	[17:48]
kakobrekla	(would love to be wrong here)	[17:50]
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mircea_popescu	ohohohoho notrly. while the abject selfdebasing of the highschool priss is exactly of zero practical weight, as there are more pleasant girls and better trained, so one'd never seriously use her for a direct purpose,	[17:50]
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mircea_popescu	nevertheless in amusement terms it's quite something.	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	all meta, kako. all meta.	[17:51]
TheNewDeal	;;market buy 10000	[17:52]
gribble	Bitstamp \| A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 3875629.8332 USD and would take the last price up to 491.5800 USD, resulting in an average price of 387.5630 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 0.0915 seconds	[17:52]
TheNewDeal	not bad	[17:52]
The20YearIRCloud	dang	[17:52]
jurov	what can usg default on? does it have any bitcoin-denominated debt yet?	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	the beauty of it all is that it does.	[17:56]
jurov	what one?	[17:57]
mircea_popescu	what one ?!	[17:57]
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jurov	who borrowed btc to them?	[18:02]
thickasthieves	<+mircea_popescu> his skin could be hellraiser's for all the difference it'd make to his life. /// maybe the guy just had particularly distracting skin, probly not, but ive seen such before	[18:03]
jurov	*lent	[18:03]
TheNewDeal	jurov china, then they banned it ;)	[18:03]
jurov	not sure if serious..link?	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	jurov i am serious, it is not public knowledge either.	[18:04]
thickasthieves	i'm just waiting for bitcoin to ban china	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	you know, just like the $ amt someone paid for their supposed stash is not public knowledge.	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	thickasthieves ain't happening.	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	and wh ywould it ?	[18:05]
thickasthieves	mostly joking	[18:05]
thickasthieves	but i do worry for people using their exchanges	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	eh, they're chinese	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	they're used to being scammed.	[18:06]
thickasthieves	i guess exchange worry is universal	[18:06]
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thickasthieves	diff is spiking now	[18:07]
thickasthieves	we got trolled	[18:07]
thickasthieves	;;estimate	[18:07]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 34976843352.0 based on data since last change \| 37790971411.8 based on data for last three days	[18:07]
TheNewDeal	;;nethash	[18:09]
gribble	270522438.341	[18:09]
The20YearIRCloud	Well this is nice, i didn't realize the controller for my kids quadcopter was a 2.4ghz device. It jams our home's wifi signal	[18:20]
kakobrekla	try switching channels	[18:20]
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The20YearIRCloud	the router i believe switches channels automatically when there's a signal blocking it, i think the helicopter thing is just so leaky that it prevents the wifi sinal	[18:21]
The20YearIRCloud	Granted it's an easy fix - don't fly the helicopter inside	[18:21]
TheNewDeal	2.4gz doesnt penetrate walls?	[18:22]
TheNewDeal	I was going to say, tell him to fly it by your least favorite neighbor	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	hm this shouldn't really be possible, surprised they allowed the import	[18:25]
The20YearIRCloud	It does,but when we fly it outside there isn't any wifi interuption it sems	[18:25]
The20YearIRCloud	FCC doesn't actively monitor small devices	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	they still gotta get a cert to be allowed to import it.	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	i guess someone somewhere be rubberstampin'.	[18:25]
TheNewDeal	can I bring this on an airplane and fuck with people?	[18:27]
TheNewDeal	or is that asking for trouble	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal not really in your best interest. if you manage to mess with the plane's comms you might even crash it	[18:33]
mats_cd03	you're unlikely to get caught	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	yes well sometimes success is its own punishment.	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	justusranvier hey, can i get you to contribute an article to qntra ?	[18:34]
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mircea_popescu	;;seen wywialm	[18:38]
gribble	wywialm was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 20 hours, 43 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: Oh, yeah. In this we certainly agree	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell wywialm say when you're about.	[18:39]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	;;seen princessnell	[18:39]
gribble	princessnell was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 0 hours, 46 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: hey gang	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell princessnell say when you're about.	[18:39]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:39]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: -and- 'readline' !? << lulzy huh	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes: chetty: you wrote bash bug?! <<< she'd better not have lol	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, chet.ramey@case.edu aka 64EA74AB duly recorded.	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	mthreat: ben_vulpes: I had assumed the l-39 went for around $1M, but they actually go for $175k up to $500k depending on avionics, refurbishing, etc <<< the opcost is the bigger problem there	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	a, right, your next line :)	[18:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6774 @ 0.00074611 = 5.0541 BTC [+]	[18:53]
mats_cd03	heh	[18:53]
TheNewDeal	;;ticker	[18:54]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 282.0, Best ask: 284.94, Bid-ask spread: 2.94000, Last trade: 284.94, 24 hour volume: 48575.62049890, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 346.75, 24 hour vwap: 320.382021226	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	cazalla: 150k + coins traded yet bitcoin days destroyed has not budged << lulzy.	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	decimation: Later they opted to operate more bots in the ham band <<< seems a reasonable solution, really. emergency ham band requisition. what'd you have them do ?	[18:58]
kakobrekla	30k btc ask @ 300 on stamp O_o	[18:58]
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mircea_popescu	dub: and system where an airliner falling out of teh sky ejects its passengers to be individually caught by bot swarm <<< from what i recall this is actually under commercial development.	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	jurov: i feel like no one is looking to mpex and nobody notices stuff anymore << no, i noticed, left the guy a later tell.	[19:00]
TheNewDeal	damn 30k?	[19:00]
TheNewDeal	I would love to see some people take a few chomps at that	[19:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 4.80694984 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 418 satoshi per share	[19:01]
kakobrekla	;;market buy 10000	[19:02]
gribble	Bitstamp \| A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 2998710.2763 USD and would take the last price up to 300.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 299.8710 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 33.2073 seconds	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	thickasthieves: would love if mpex or an mpex property offered any sort of price instrument that would allow moving volume from other exchanges << specifically ?	[19:03]
kakobrekla	;;market buy 30000	[19:03]
gribble	Bitstamp \| A market order to buy 30000 bitcoins right now would take 9007328.7238 USD and would take the last price up to 323.3100 USD, resulting in an average price of 300.2443 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 50.2833 seconds	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	whoa pankkake is back ?!	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	where you been yo.	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	jurov: don't want to end up with whole position on F.MPIF side << why not ? i'll just unwind it. the latest report actually says so, didja read it ?	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[19:04]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 291.15, Best ask: 292.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.85000, Last trade: 292.0, 24 hour volume: 49356.65947835, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 346.75, 24 hour vwap: 318.060741075	[19:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11972744 BTC to 15`436 shares, 7254 satoshi per share	[19:04]
TheNewDeal	very surprised litecoin isn't taking an accelerated nosedive	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	what holders remain are well shaken out.	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	not so in bitcoin. getting rid of the tardstalk/reddit/etc "community" and burning a bunch of "experts" is a fucking godsend, if they'll just stfu about it and move on to their next cool thing that'd be great.	[19:07]
TheNewDeal	Can't wait to see how quickly tim drapers coins get munched on bitstamp	[19:09]
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mircea_popescu	!up R7R7	[19:10]
-assbot-	You voiced R7R7 for 30 minutes.	[19:10]
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danielpbarron	https://twitter.com/brianchoffman/status/518794820178169857	[19:10]
assbot	/openbazaar	[19:11]
TomServo	;;bc,stats	[19:11]
gribble	Current Blocks: 323984 \| Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 \| Next Difficulty In: 591 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 5 hours, 56 minutes, and 2 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 35100796468.5 \| Estimated Percent Change: 1.26761	[19:11]
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TheNewDeal	Krugman trying to drive a few pageviews http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/04/the-long-cryptocon/?_php=true&_type=blogs&pagewanted=all&_r=0	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[19:18]
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ben_vulpes	decimation: for the headbash author	[19:26]
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mircea_popescu	!up knite	[19:27]
-assbot-	You voiced knite for 30 minutes.	[19:27]
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PeterL	mircea_popescu: have you found anything interesting to do with the huge amounts of cash held by MPIF?	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[19:29]
PeterL	should be a report out soon?	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	HODL!!!1	[19:30]
[]bot	Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/	[19:30]
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ben_vulpes	;;ticker	[19:37]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 284.0, Best ask: 284.24, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 284.0, 24 hour volume: 50063.36157078, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 346.75, 24 hour vwap: 315.736945727	[19:37]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 95(Y):5(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,925.	[19:39]
TheNewDeal	and as quickly as the wall appeared, its gone	[19:42]
asciilifeform	ham band requisition << this works both ways, you know.	[19:43]
asciilifeform	and ham transmitter is typically far louder than that pocket-sized remote (see police film)	[19:43]
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asciilifeform	so surveillance bot, turns out, is cured with easy pill...	[19:44]
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TheNewDeal	is huobi volume considered legitimate, or were they included on the bucket-shop scam list?	[19:47]
The20YearIRCloud	RENT's october dividend keeps looking better and better	[19:49]
kakobrekla	^^	[19:49]
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kakobrekla	whats next, up ninjaspamgun?	[19:51]
TheNewDeal	i've heard he's got a new entrepreneurship	[19:54]
kakobrekla	jurov 'singing' bash wasnt a typo :)	[19:57]
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jurov	ohmy. remove me from the bash admin before i make bigger mess	[19:58]
kakobrekla	lol its fine	[19:58]
kakobrekla	its prolly not a good idea that all the filtering is left up to me	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform what i mean is : if you had a stash of 1mn units using x hardcoded band,	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	wouldn't you think it more expedient to relocate some random sporadic ham stuff ?	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	cheaper.	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal no data atm.	[20:01]
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jurov	mircea_popescu: withdrawals pls	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/the-usg-wasted-another-hundred-million-dollars-it-previously-stole-from-average-hard-working-us-citizens-nobody-cares/ << silkroad bet resolved and other considerations	[20:04]
assbot	The USG wasted another hundred million dollars it previously stole from average, hard working US citizens. Nobody cares. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	jurov on it.	[20:04]
TheNewDeal	alas, resolution	[20:07]
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bounce	ham bands work best when they're the same world-wide. also, ham operators are remarkably useful in SHTF situations, and otherwise are very little bother since they tend to know their stuff. so no, it's neither smart nor expedient to try and relocate them. much easier to not be assholes and play nice from the start.	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	aha	[20:14]
*	mircea_popescu knows little bout haming.	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	but yes, the worldwide problem is the silver bullet here.	[20:15]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-usg-wasted-another-hundred-million-dollars-it-previously-stole-from-average-hard-working-us-citizens-nobody-cares/	[20:23]
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mircea_popescu	$s	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	$conference	[20:34]
empyex	mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 6 months and 12 days. Estimated cost today: 4.23973791 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )	[20:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00074495 = 1.1547 BTC [-]	[20:35]
TheNewDeal	price isn't pegged in bitcoin?	[20:35]
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mircea_popescu	nope. gives people an oppporunity to have fun	[20:37]
Dimsler	lol	[20:39]
Dimsler	begged in bitcoin	[20:39]
Dimsler	should be able to make this	[20:39]
Dimsler	argeninta in the spring is gorgeous	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	its pretty great all year through	[20:40]
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TheNewDeal	pretty humid it looks like? https://weatherspark.com/averages/33323/Buenos-Aires-Capital-Federal-Argentina	[20:46]
assbot	Average Weather For Buenos Aires, Argentina - WeatherSpark	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	i think about half of that comes in the form of extremely intense rain	[20:47]
bounce	http://gulfnews.com/news/region/iran/daesh-document-disclose-plans-to-seize-iran-s-nuclear-secrets-1.1394455 -- too bad it doesn't tell why they think putin would go along with what they want	[20:47]
assbot	Daesh document disclose plans to seize Irans nuclear secrets \| GulfNews.com	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	which you know...	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	!up Guest46405	[20:47]
-assbot-	You voiced Guest46405 for 30 minutes.	[20:47]
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mircea_popescu	bounce putin doesn't understand how the world works.	[20:48]
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Apocalyptic	he understood how Russia worked though	[20:48]
bounce	he doesn't? I see him make much better decisions (from his perspective) than either the EU or the US (from their respective perspectives)	[20:48]
aabtc	aegis agamemno123 AlexWkz AndChat\|679296 AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij artifexd asciilifeform assbot atcbot Azelphur	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic it's a reference to this idiotic comment by some us derp or other	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	;;google "putin doesn't understand how the world works"	[20:49]
gribble	Russian View: Why Putin Is Not Impressed \| Wolf Street: ; Why America doesn't understand Putin - The Washington Post: ; Has Putin pulled military back from (1 more message)	[20:49]
Apocalyptic	oh	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	o look at that. the derp in question was obama	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	whodda guessed.	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	you know who understands how the world works ? obama lmao. putin doesn't.	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	every single time they've met in the field the russian feed the kenyan's ass to him, but hey.	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	why let facts and scores get in the way of things. besides, scoring is raycist	[20:50]
TheNewDeal	;;ticker	[20:55]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 295.51, Best ask: 296.12, Bid-ask spread: 0.61000, Last trade: 295.5, 24 hour volume: 49890.61529527, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 342.15, 24 hour vwap: 313.35706663	[20:55]
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danielpbarron	one of the OpenBazaar guys said he'd send someone in here; that's what the tweet I linked to was about	[21:01]
danielpbarron	they are trying to make some sort of decentralized reputation system	[21:01]
danielpbarron	heard about them on freetalklive, a radio show I am beginning to suspect is run by government plants	[21:04]
Dimsler	lol	[21:05]
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mircea_popescu	danielpbarron cool.	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	heh that 260 dollar btc bet guy's gonna be pretty pissed	[21:09]
TheNewDeal	I have a feeling that sub 300 is going to feel like a dream in about 1 week	[21:09]
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Dimsler	lol	[21:19]
Dimsler	like the jackolantern market peaks in mid november	[21:20]
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danielpbarron	;;rate ninjashogun 1 http://danielpbarron.com/ninjashogun.log.txt	[21:23]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ninjashogun has changed from -1 to 1.	[21:23]
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jurov	danielpbarron did he brie you?	[21:27]
jurov	*bribe	[21:27]
jurov	otherwise i don't see there anything upworthy	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	hanbot that's actually interesting huh.	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	guy works as a stupid sifter that's not really dragging up that much stupid.	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	jurov bribe like, with money ?!	[21:31]
jurov	in that log it is not said how	[21:32]
jurov	maybe ninja gives good bjs, whatcha know	[21:32]
kakobrekla	jurov bribe like, with money ?! < with the coins he got from daniel in the first place	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	i gotta say btw, the pipe is like... the greatest invention ever.	[21:34]
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mircea_popescu	i dunno how one is supposed to have an os without a pipe. ipads, winboxes, the whole shebang. how ?	[21:34]
jurov	install an app for every little thing you want to do. oh and pay for the privilege.	[21:37]
kakobrekla	see now	[21:39]
kakobrekla	http://dpaste.com/3B6Z890.txt	[21:39]
danielpbarron	jurov, my rating doesn't grant voice at the moment	[21:39]
kakobrekla	what have you done!	[21:39]
TheNewDeal	he's pestering me as well	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla you hafta add a jukebox to assbot.	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	guy puts 1 bitcent in, gets a !up from assbot.	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	anyone in chan can still !down of course.	[21:40]
asciilifeform	TheNewDeal: learn to use your killfile. i did - when first met with mr. spam.	[21:40]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: recall, i suggested this.	[21:40]
asciilifeform	(with higher price, if i recall)	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	yup	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	ideally it'd work on the powers of two. first time a week, 1 bitcent, then 2 4 8 etc	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	resets weekly	[21:41]
jurov	that would work better if voice could be resold	[21:41]
jurov	like btc gem :)	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	roflmao	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	one ponzi at a time plz.	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	"it is unclear if bitcoin has any economic value", says nobel prize laureate.	[21:42]
TheNewDeal	what a troll	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	because totally, the fact that we can actually do the above now is not economical or valuable.	[21:42]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: re: usg wasted another hundred million... << if they can't power the waterfall with debt, they'll power it with plundered btc (as being done now, at least as suggested by the publicly known facts.)	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	yes, but the plundering has a larger cost to them than to us.	[21:45]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i can't even imagine who would be dumb enough to lend btc to usg, considering the gold obligations affair	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	because they have to keep selling us the proceeds of their selftheft below market.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform everyone accounting in dollars.	[21:46]
decimation	re: ham bands << the point is that the 'law' already gave those frequencies to the hams, except when it would inconvenience a company to redesign the product	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	it's actually a better deal in dollars than to hold on btc.	[21:46]
decimation	although if you read the fine print, the police bot is technical secondary to the ham	[21:46]
asciilifeform	when usg sets off a bomb in iraqanistan, the metal, trotyl, guidance circuits - are also 'sold' and 'below market' also.	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	as the obligation to repay btc held on the usg is actually going to increase somewhat faster than the btc itself	[21:46]
decimation	so it would actually be legal to blast it off the air	[21:46]
asciilifeform	do they give a damn?	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	but there's no bomb here.	[21:46]
asciilifeform	decimation: i pointed this out earlier, yes	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	when they give the tanks to isis, they give them.	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	that's the model.	[21:46]
*	asciilifeform gets it	[21:47]
asciilifeform	and i suspect usg also gets it. they're banking on just one hope, killing btc somehow through stampede	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	it's one of those win-win/lose-lose scenarios. basically they're cutting their herds to drown us in blood	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	easier to sit on a ledge than to replace the cattle.	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	i doubt hte usg gets anything at this point. just a lengthy succession of narrow "experts" who keep passing data cross a "telephone wire", while the meanings of the terms used change on every pass.	[21:49]
decimation	it would be interesting to try to trace the btc in the sr stash	[21:50]
asciilifeform	decimation: it was washed in the most elementary way	[21:50]
TheNewDeal	I looked up the stashes today	[21:50]
asciilifeform	decimation: i.e. traded for a slightly smaller quantity of 'clean'	[21:50]
asciilifeform	decimation: in meatspace.	[21:50]
decimation	heh the treasury dept. using otc?	[21:51]
bounce	apparently it was mr. reid who thought putin doesn't understand how the world works: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2014-03-27/html/CREC-2014-03-27-pt1-PgS1781-6.htm	[21:51]
assbot	Congressional Record, Volume 160 Issue 49 (Thursday, March 27, 2014)	[21:51]
decimation	well, someone is 'renting' all those miners for over the expected return	[21:52]
decimation	there's alot of btc that wants to be washed	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	bounce oh was it ?	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	tyvm for doing the digging.	[21:52]
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decimation	personally I find it far more likely that some big bank/'investment house' is doing usg's bidding in exchange for future favors from usg	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	that's the allegation.	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	hence "agents"	[21:55]
asciilifeform	in what way are these folks meaningfully separate entities from usg?	[21:55]
decimation	yes, usg is still responsible.	[21:55]
decimation	many in the us are easily confused on this point	[21:55]
decimation	they think they bank with some local bank, not the fed/fdic/whatever	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	qui facit per alium facit per se and all that.	[21:56]
TheNewDeal	all the biggest banks are in bed with the fed anyways	[21:56]
decimation	TheNewDeal: that's the point, thus the usg is responsible for their actions, as mp just wrote	[21:57]
bounce	pffft. they /are/ the fed. it's not actually an usg institution.	[21:57]
mircea_popescu	in a sense, thinking about it... the usg problems come down to a poor implementation of the pipe.	[21:57]
mircea_popescu	that thing's a lot more fundamental than usually given credit for	[21:57]
decimation	'the pipe'?	[21:57]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the pipe - is everything. (hence my crackpot pushing of dataflow as replacement for von neumann computation, etc)	[21:57]
bounce	lay down the pipe and open a window. slowly!	[21:58]
asciilifeform	von neumann's basic problem is a terrifically bad implementation of the ordinary pipe concept.	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2014#859729 and by sheer coincidence http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2014#859774	[21:58]
assbot	Logged on 05-10-2014 18:32:30; mircea_popescu: i gotta say btw, the pipe is like... the greatest invention ever.	[21:58]
assbot	Logged on 05-10-2014 18:47:24; mircea_popescu: i doubt hte usg gets anything at this point. just a lengthy succession of narrow "experts" who keep passing data cross a "telephone wire", while the meanings of the terms used change on every pass.	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	these actually merge.	[21:58]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/05/finding-your-life-purpose-isnt-your-path-to-improving-the-world-survival-is/	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i am starting to comprehend this.	[21:58]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: all of my heresies are in fact in one strand. this is how i ended up 'drinking the spittoon.'	[21:59]
asciilifeform	!s the spittoon	[21:59]
assbot	3 results for 'the spittoon' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=the+spittoon	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	in fact, if you get the pipe right, it doesn't even actually matter if you get anything else right	[21:59]
asciilifeform	yes.	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	in this perspective, the blockchain is the major point of bitcoin	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	which happens to be correct, and peripherally a point i've oft made, say how "bitcoin is not the derps"	[22:00]
decimation	I was thinking about this last night. How can you be certain that your hvac control pipe is not connected to the self-destruct thermite bomb pipe?	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	decimation hm?	[22:00]
decimation	if they are both connected to the same von neumann machine (or network of such machines) you can't be certain	[22:00]
decimation	in the sense that you can check that they are physically unconnected	[22:01]
decimation	with your own eyes	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	i think these live on different abstraction levels	[22:01]
asciilifeform	difficult to work with naked eye on microelectronics.	[22:01]
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asciilifeform	of whatever kind.	[22:01]
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decimation	it's difficult to inspect the usg/fed's actions with the naked eye	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	depends whose.	[22:03]
mircea_popescu	macro events are visible, and the forest-for-trees problem is something one can approach with training and talent	[22:03]
mircea_popescu	micro events however are invisible.	[22:03]
decimation	I suspect parts of usg/its agents are working against each other	[22:04]
TheNewDeal	;;ticker	[22:05]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 310.08, Best ask: 314.48, Bid-ask spread: 4.40000, Last trade: 314.48, 24 hour volume: 53465.06436516, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 308.337573196	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/bitcoin-to-drop-under-260-before-november/	[22:08]
assbot	BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November :: 1.04 B (95%) on Yes, 0.06 B (5%) on No \| closing in 1 week 1 day\| weight: 98`674 (100`000 to 1)	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	i guess this is a hot bet now ?	[22:08]
decimation	re: pipes http://rt.com/news/191132-belgium-build-beer-pipe/ "An underground pipeline carrying 5,700 liters of beer an hour will be built in Belgium’s historic city of Bruges. A family-owned brewery will pump beer direct to a bottling plant in the suburbs to cut the number of trucks on ancient cobbled streets."	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	pipes as in beer!	[22:09]
TheNewDeal	so does a new beer just flush out the old?	[22:09]
TheNewDeal	would be interesting to taste the inbetween state	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	i imagine if that thing's in use for a few centuries the bugs living in the pipe will be pretty wow.	[22:09]
mthreat	my friend owns beer.net. maybe it'll be worth more now!	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	as it gives motility a major incentive	[22:10]
*	asciilifeform was greatly surprised to learn that one can buy nitric acid on 'amazon' and similar.	[22:10]
decimation	I suspect they would have to flush the beer pipe regularly	[22:11]
*	asciilifeform thought it was verb0t3n by order of tehFuhrer	[22:11]
TheNewDeal	might find a couple street bums trapped in there too	[22:11]
joecool	asciilifeform: is it eligible for prime delivery?	[22:11]
asciilifeform	nope	[22:11]
decimation	oh noes, terrorists are going to be HNO3 off of amazon to make TNT?	[22:13]
TheNewDeal	maybe some heavy water as well	[22:13]
asciilifeform	TheNewDeal: heavy water comes for free out of your faucet.	[22:13]
asciilifeform	(all you need to do is separate...)	[22:13]
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mircea_popescu	well so does nitric acid	[22:15]
TheNewDeal	http://dpaste.com/1RG8SQP	[22:19]
assbot	dpaste: 1RG8SQP: spamgun, by tnd	[22:19]
asciilifeform	lulz	[22:19]
pete_dushenski	https://twitter.com/AliTahmizian/status/518840043616878592	[22:22]
assbot	GRAPHIC: Islamic State fighter w/ head of female Kurdish fighter after entering Kobani. US strikes did 0 to halt them http://t.co/IfdbZEXpkZ	[22:22]
asciilifeform	lol, usa uniform!	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	gotta say i lub the kurdish chicks	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	i'd be very curious to see first hand if the us based, usg fed "feminists" in the us would actually pick a rifle and a picket, when it comes to it.	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	at the rate things are going, this curiosity looks likely to be satisfied.	[22:24]
asciilifeform	how many will afford pointy stick, much less rifle.	[22:25]
asciilifeform	or is the hypothetical one involving a 20th c. style army, which equips paupers ?	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	kurdistan is in the 20th century now ?	[22:28]
asciilifeform	re: usa	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	bitches better be resourceful, what is this $1200 a month retainer talk ?	[22:29]
asciilifeform	http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd << unrelated but very useful	[22:30]
assbot	Gentoo Without systemd - Gentoo Wiki	[22:30]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: i will take it very personally if the actual financial collapse of the us is brought about by a manic attempt to chase losses in their failed attempts to maninpulate the btc price. << lol! those causes.	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[22:32]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 309.11, Best ask: 309.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.29000, Last trade: 308.83, 24 hour volume: 55108.92934427, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 308.259223839	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	aww.	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	;;google but thanks for all the fishes	[22:32]
gribble	So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish Quotes by Douglas Adams: ; So Long and Thanks for all the Fish - YouTube:	[22:32]
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decimation	asciilifeform: thanks for that gentoo -systemd tip. it would be handy to make a systemd-free linux box	[22:39]
pete_dushenski	;;nethash	[22:40]
gribble	279970409.457	[22:40]
pete_dushenski	decent.	[22:40]
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pete_dushenski	https://twitter.com/sassenvanelsloo/status/518831715062910976	[22:55]
assbot	Capitalism does not work? Well.... http://t.co/LmBncfiu9t	[22:55]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/ Odds: 50(Y):50(N) by coin, 50(Y):50(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.1 BTC. Current weight: 98,278.	[22:56]
pete_dushenski	and with that, i'm off to enjoy the last of this beautiful weather!	[22:56]
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TheNewDeal	another wall, eh	[23:13]
Dimsler	will you stop with the play by play market updates	[23:21]
TheNewDeal	will do	[23:22]
decimation	;;ticker	[23:29]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 307.69, Best ask: 308.92, Bid-ask spread: 1.23000, Last trade: 308.69, 24 hour volume: 56551.21451831, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 307.191985978	[23:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00074411 = 22.3233 BTC [-] {2}	[23:32]
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decimation	ben_vulpes: saauce is easy to find, here's one http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/when-the-bourne-shell-found-its-identity.html	[23:42]
assbot	An Interview With Chet Ramey – Maintainer Of Bash Shell - nixCraft	[23:42]
decimation	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/technology/security-experts-expect-shellshock-software-bug-to-be-significant.html "Mr. Ramey said in an interview on Thursday that he believed he inadvertently introduced Shellshock in a new Bash feature in 1992, though he could not be sure because back then he was not keeping comprehensive logs. "	[23:42]
assbot	Log In - The New York Times	[23:42]
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decimation	he has a blog too http://chetramey.blogspot.com/ "An outspoken progressive in a conservative community."	[23:51]
assbot	Ramblings	[23:51]
decimation	note to young 'progressive' 'open source' coders: you have swallowed the kool-aid. If you actually want to make a difference and not end up like Mr. Ramey, please focus on the pipes, from the silicon up.	[23:52]
*	assbot gives voice to Shakespeare	[23:56]
Shakespeare	<+mircea_popescu> thickasthieves: would love if mpex or an mpex property offered any sort of price instrument that would allow moving volume from other exchanges << specifically ? /// well, i'll start with the moon: just buy bitfinex and offer the whole shebang! otherwise, just would be nice to trade somewhere more private, transparent and trustworthy. The product could be options,	[23:56]
Shakespeare	futures, and margin and leverage would be nice too.	[23:56]
Shakespeare	yay on the SR auction bet resolution!	[23:58]

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