Forum logs for 04 Mar 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 24 @ 0.08916749 = 2.14 BTC [-] {3}	[00:06]
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mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic yeah, sorta what he could get.	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	dexX7 yeah, they managed to lose their customer db a week or two ago. maybe that's all they lost, who's to know at this point.	[00:10]
cazalla	reading the casinobitco.in feb report - if bitcoin price is lower, would it be right to assume people would be more bitcoin as it's worth less?	[00:10]
cazalla	yet they seem to blame low price on less bets	[00:10]
cazalla	and no - i did not buy any of this i just like to read what people are doing	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves on the other hand, i'd be fucking amazed if buffett is still around in 10 years	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	let alone 20.	[00:11]
ThickAsThieves	well that's how it happene dwith sdice	[00:11]
ThickAsThieves	if it holds true it would be an indicator now that casinobit is dwindling	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	cazalla if there's some such effect, it'd conceivably show slower than one month	[00:12]
jcpham	dat gox shitshow	[00:12]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Generally, advanced age can get people to go away	[00:12]
cazalla	they are blaming lower volume on lower price but i would think vol would be higher with lower price	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo and before it does, it can get people to be unable to evaluate the future.	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	o wow look at this, mpoe-pr forum heroin nao ?	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	or how do you say, heroess ?	[00:13]
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cazalla	heroine?	[00:13]
jcpham	mircea_popescu I told someone that MPOE-PR was light years ahead of mtgox the other day	[00:13]
cazalla	heroiness?	[00:13]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I think now the trend is China White, or Heroine	[00:13]
jcpham	pretty sure they agreed	[00:13]
kakobrekla	cazalla got a link to that	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	Neil when do you release such a wonder anyway ?	[00:13]
mike_c	the guy is 83, he gets a pass. he has quite a track record of not being stupid.	[00:13]
michiel_l	midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius_ mixdio	[00:14]
cazalla	kakobrekla: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=70 page 4	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	mike_c he easily gets a pass from me too, he can say whatever the fuck he wants	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	doesn't mean i'll agree with what he says tho	[00:14]
kakobrekla	a pdf.	[00:14]
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kakobrekla	which includes google docs spreadsheet link.	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	Neil at any rate, i wasn't saying there's something wron with the compilers, i said it depends how shit's implemented. basically, a write-out of "undefined"	[00:15]
kakobrekla	why is the report not on facebook	[00:15]
mike_c	which shows a complete lack of ability to run a sportsbook.	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla because facebook is for porn	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	o no wait.	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	jurov wait, reddit deletes threads ?	[00:16]
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mircea_popescu	nah it's there, or at least i see it.	[00:17]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Twitter is for porn http://deadspin.com/the-cardinals-are-very-embarrassed-by-carlos-martinezs-1530572369	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	blergh.	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	hopefully the idiot got told to get fucked by the team.	[00:18]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Throws a baseball too good for that. Was told to just watch actual porn and skip the tweets	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	not that idiot. the other idiot.	[00:19]
BingoBoingo	Ah	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	"Matheny told two reporters this morning that he spoke privately to Martinez and that he addressed the team again about their actions on social media this morning."	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	matheny needs to be out of a job.	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	this sort of irresponsible behaviour on his part is intolerable by a major.	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	anyway, if i owned the cardinals he'd be fired.	[00:20]
BingoBoingo	Problem is he is too good as well, at being grumpy and old.	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	fuck him.	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	you don't like porn, you don't get to work.	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	queue at the soup kitchen.	[00:20]
BingoBoingo	Well, when BTC tops $10,000 Maybe buy the Cardinals? Play at MPEx stadium?	[00:20]
benkay	http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/	[00:20]
ozbot	BitBet - Any altcoin will surpass Litecoin in market capitalization	[00:20]
benkay	mircea_popescu: u gon have a headache with that one	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	i'd rather buy something cool.	[00:21]
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mircea_popescu	benkay tell me about it.	[00:21]
benkay	the "any coin" clause	[00:21]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Make it a troll buy around $100k/BTC Matheny will prolly still be there by then.	[00:21]
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mircea_popescu	;;google how much did the cardinals cost last time	[00:22]
gribble	St. Louis Cardinals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Red Sox World Series Tickets 81% Higher Than Cardinals ... - Forbes: ; St Louis Cardinals on the Forbes MLB Team Valuations List: (1 more message)	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	meh	[00:22]
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michiel_l	midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius_ mixdio	[00:22]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c i have no idea dood, i went to bed fully expecting to see it way lower. i come back... it's gone from 86-87 to what, 84ish	[00:23]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: $150 million in 1995	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	owch. even at $100k / btc, it'll prolly be 10k btcs or some shit. seems excessive.	[00:24]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: You forget that whol 'Murica collapsing part.	[00:24]
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mircea_popescu	copumpkin can i get a summary ? i just fucking banned youtube.	[00:26]
BingoBoingo	100k/BTC might be as forgetable a milestone as silver parity	[00:26]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: the pope saying "cazzo"	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	haha	[00:26]
copumpkin	during an address	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	wait	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	isn't hte pope argentine ?!	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	he cusses in italian ?!	[00:26]
copumpkin	yeah, giving a speech in italian	[00:27]
copumpkin	it was a mistake, he was trying to say "caso"	[00:27]
copumpkin	:P	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	holy perra hermano!	[00:27]
copumpkin	but it was unambiguously cazzo	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	o i c	[00:27]
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mircea_popescu	til : spanish is quite well gender balanced :	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	Then I touched her cunt.	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	Entonces le toqué la concha.	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	Entonces le toqué el mico.	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	Entonces le toque el coño.	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	Entonces le toque la panocha.	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	two masculine cunts, two feminine cunts.	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	jic.	[00:29]
tank100_	taub_ teek testuser the20year2 thecluck_ thestringpuller thoa_afk toffoo TomServo topace transisto Troicc tych0 Tykling	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	lmao ken slaughter says THREE weeks ?	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	scam.	[00:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.00495005 = 0.6782 BTC [-]	[00:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.00648 = 0.1296 BTC [+] {2}	[00:32]
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Duffer1	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5480240#msg5480240	[00:35]
ozbot	[ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]	[00:35]
BingoBoingo	http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/03/03/kennesaw-state-orders-museum-remove-are-racist-past-woman-whose-land-was-given#.UxR6DSFZPmM.twitter	[00:36]
ozbot	Kennesaw State orders museum to remove are on racist past of woman whose land was given to universit	[00:36]
Duffer1	common B-A injuries: severe bruising from facepalm repetition, permanent eyeroll syndrome	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	wait women are a race ?	[00:37]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Maybe to aspies?	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	"Out of this cesspool of vice rises that hideous monster, a possible menace to every home in the South. He has the savage nature and murderous instincts of the wild beast, plus the cunning and lust of a fiend."	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	ouch.	[00:38]
asciilifeform	took a break from my usual doings, wrote psot:	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	"But her legacy has always been tarnished by the racist views that launched her career." / "but we've never managed to cope with the fact that people in the past did not think very much of the stereotypes we today hold dear"	[00:39]
asciilifeform	http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1446	[00:39]
ozbot	Loper OS » Modern Chumpatronic Engineering.	[00:39]
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mircea_popescu	omgspam	[00:39]
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BingoBoingo	Ban SPAM!!!	[00:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18552 @ 0.00085969 = 15.949 BTC [-]	[00:39]
kakobrekla	sorry about that.	[00:41]
BingoBoingo	Is Diablo-D3 still banned?	[00:41]
kakobrekla	no	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	is anyone still banned ?	[00:42]
kakobrekla	no	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	are you married ?	[00:42]
kakobrekla	no	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	do you mind if we keep asking you questions until you answer yes ?	[00:42]
kakobrekla	no	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	did you ever have sex with an eskimo and/or navy seal ?	[00:43]
kakobrekla	no	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	anything good on tv ?	[00:43]
kakobrekla	no	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	did you write a script for this yet ?	[00:43]
kakobrekla	no	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	did you accept jesus in your heart and other cavities ?	[00:44]
kakobrekla	well, not at the same time.	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	lol	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	aite, i'm satisfied.	[00:44]
kakobrekla	k	[00:44]
wao-ender	lul http://blog.magicaltux.net/2010/06/27/php-can-do-anything-what-about-some-ssh/	[00:45]
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BingoBoingo	Texas since #BitcoinTexas is a hashtag http://gawker.com/family-that-gets-arrested-for-meth-together-makes-out-i-1535467958	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	ahaha	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	wait, so siblings may not kiss in the us ?!	[00:56]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Generally not	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	uh.	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	fucking weird country that.	[00:57]
wao-ender	indeed.	[00:57]
wao-ender	such normal in Europe.	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	She said the two had been living in a motel with her 2-year-old twin daughters	[00:57]
BingoBoingo	Arised because another TwoBitIdiot like account https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles raised the issue of a Bitcoin Texas nonference	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	dude wtf, living in a motel ? what's that, like 50 bucks a night?	[00:57]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Depends on the motel, could go as low as $50 a week if the interstate is too fat.	[00:58]
BingoBoingo	or far	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	"How many incestuous half siblings does it take to screw in a lightbulb? You do the meth." << ahaha	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	gawker comments way better than gawker	[00:58]
BingoBoingo	For sure. Like Slashdot, or Ars.	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	"wow! this website is a scam, can we get a link to reddit and bitcointalk.org protest time!"	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla what the fuck are we doing with that retarded altcoin bet.	[01:00]
kakobrekla	kill all humans.	[01:00]
BingoBoingo	Flip a coin?	[01:01]
BingoBoingo	Preferably on of thickastheives's altcoins?	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	no but srsly.	[01:01]
wao-ender	I like it	[01:02]
wao-ender	huge pot in	[01:02]
kakobrekla	first of all	[01:02]
kakobrekla	what does "ends up" zactly mean	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	first of all i'm banning that retarded site, it's a signal about as good as pissing in the snow.	[01:02]
wao-ender	:D	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	http://coinmarketcap.com/ bs.	[01:03]
ozbot	Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations \| Bitcoin Ripple Auroracoin Litecoin Peercoin Dogecoin Nxt Ma	[01:03]
wao-ender	I like art in snow.	[01:03]
wao-ender	with piss	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla it's... ambiguous	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	0.o	[01:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0432 = 0.1728 BTC [+]	[01:04]
kakobrekla	even more interesting is	[01:05]
kakobrekla	that the bet does not exclude ripple	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	ripple is not a coin tho	[01:06]
benkay	what is a coin?	[01:06]
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kakobrekla	who am i?	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	gotta have a blockchain at a minimum neh ?	[01:06]
kakobrekla	they have some sort of blockchain	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	i mean otherwise what, facebook is a coin	[01:06]
wao-ender	it isn't ?!	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	mk ima go take a coinpiss and brb	[01:07]
kakobrekla	im selling all my facebucks then.	[01:07]
wao-ender	use buttcoins only please.	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	no but srsly, i have a serious problem just giving 15 btc to some dorks who went and did what basically ?	[01:08]
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mircea_popescu	aurora coin has nothing, atc is more fleshed out than it.	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	"we are going to help iceland"	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	it's not even fucking legal to trade btc in iceland.	[01:08]
kakobrekla	but at the end of the day its what the bet sez and what you can prove not what the truth is.	[01:08]
wao-ender	yeah	[01:08]
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wao-ender	but aur doubled, nice pump & dump	[01:09]
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benkay	it /is/ a coin.	[01:09]
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kakobrekla	bitfury was such example.	[01:09]
benkay	just like atc and ltc and dgc	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla this is also true	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	"#2551 5,638 BTC volume."	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	where is it even listed ?	[01:10]
kakobrekla	i was wondering myself	[01:10]
kakobrekla	didnt find it	[01:10]
decimation	asciilifeform your blog post is good. I think the root of the issue (the reason why chumps bow prostrate to their masters) is that the chumps fail to distinguish fantasy from reality	[01:10]
decimation	a trustworth bitcoin exchange should exist, this is an exchange, therefore it is trustworthy?	[01:10]
mike_c	mircea_popescu: it at least makes me feel better that you were surprised too.	[01:10]
kakobrekla	it could be the guys set up something nonpublic and gave the guy the feed	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	decimation you ever read that grand tlp piece re trading ?	[01:11]
kakobrekla	now they just herp derp there	[01:11]
kakobrekla	while everyone is scratching heads	[01:11]
decimation	not sure, possibly	[01:11]
michiel_l	midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius_ mixdio	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	mike_c i capitulated re s.mpoe price making any sense like a year ago	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	i dun claim to understand it. maybe better minds later on.	[01:12]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498522.0;all	[01:13]
ozbot	MtGox source code leaked ...	[01:13]
mircea_popescu	o hey look at that.	[01:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.08916021 = 0.4458 BTC [-] {3}	[01:13]
joecool	posting this so nobody loses sleep	[01:14]
joecool	[07:10:14] MagicalTux: kalyhost going to continue operations? <- that's the plan	[01:14]
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mircea_popescu	"Does Deutsche Bank use php? Does HSBC use fucking MYSQL??? Do any of those banks comment out lines in production code for debugging?!?!?!?"	[01:14]
mircea_popescu	i suspek forum noobs would be mighty surprised.	[01:14]
decimation	I would be shocked if they didn't	[01:15]
joecool	probably all asp, the pinnacle of security	[01:15]
wao-ender	no, fortran!	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	joecool anyone use them other than forum ?	[01:15]
mike_c	bank software is probably terrible. i highly doubt they have good programmers.	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	anyway, commented out lines in production software are more common than web designers.	[01:15]
joecool	mike_c: windows server 2003 is stable ok?	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	heck, linux kernel has commented out lines	[01:16]
mircea_popescu	(or at least had, i'm not really following)	[01:16]
joecool	mircea_popescu: still does, i need to see how many uses of "fuck" they still have in source	[01:16]
mike_c	commented out lines are pretty bad (or at least a pet peeve). that's what source control is for.	[01:16]
joecool	used to have a tracker for that	[01:16]
decimation	what's wrong with commenting out lines of code? they are crumbs for students	[01:16]
mike_c	what's wrong is they make the code less readable, thereby making it harder for the 2nd programmer who has to touch the code.	[01:17]
joecool	mostly scheduler stuff, because nobody can make up mind how how to schedule tasks for 64k cpu's vs. a typical desktop	[01:17]
kakobrekla	i dont think forum is still on kalyhost	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	joecool > 42	[01:17]
kakobrekla	joecool well, he thought and say same for gox.	[01:18]
michiel_l	midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius_ mixdio	[01:18]
joecool	kakobrekla: well its ok though, MT says kalyhost is staying in operation	[01:18]
joecool	we have to believe him	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	mike_c pet or nonpet, fact.	[01:18]
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Bugpowder	mircea_popescu: who cares about source code	[01:18]
Bugpowder	20GB of user docs leacked	[01:18]
kakobrekla	am i the only one so retarded to read the footer of the forum	[01:18]
kakobrekla	>Sponsored by Private Internet Access, a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	a ok	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	wait vpn ?	[01:18]
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mircea_popescu	forum is on virtual hosting ?	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	i guess that's kind-of impressing actually.	[01:19]
kakobrekla	vpn is not vps	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	o	[01:19]
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kakobrekla	but afaik they host them	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	yeah my blind.	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder this is re the very concerning leak at mtgox,	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	in that ~20gb worth of idiots' passport scans are now in the wild.	[01:19]
Bugpowder	yeah.... GOD DAMN IT	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	these are EXTREMELY vulnerable people, because most of them have either forced their bank to accept "weird" txs	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	or even signed ok's for "weird" txs.	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	getting out of an identity theft mess will be a royal pain in the loins	[01:20]
Bugpowder	http://pastebin.com/N7B5DC4d	[01:20]
ozbot	Goxed - Pastebin.com	[01:20]
Bugpowder	My friends are not happy	[01:20]
Bugpowder	nor am I	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	i can' read all that. exec summary ?	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	a ok	[01:21]
Bugpowder	just find nanashi and read all his comments	[01:21]
Bugpowder	he didn't hack it	[01:21]
Bugpowder	they may release a torrent	[01:21]
Bugpowder	they say no personal info released of users	[01:21]
Bugpowder	they won't release personal info	[01:21]
Bugpowder	(probably they will sell that instead of leak it :(	[01:22]
Bugpowder	That motherfuckering tool.	[01:22]
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mircea_popescu	derp.	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder ya well who toldja to use gox.	[01:22]
Bugpowder	You said OTC	[01:23]
TATrilllaInTehMi	I think u gotta take 'ends up' as 'when this bet closes'	[01:23]
Bugpowder	little did I expect OTC to be the SAFE routh	[01:23]
Bugpowder	route	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	yeah well.	[01:24]
decimation	well, at the very least with OTC damage is limited and healing	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	^	[01:24]
Bugpowder	The user data all stored in mySQL	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	this is what strategic soundness is	[01:24]
Bugpowder	Dude was more concerned with putting a frappachino cafe in his own fucking building than using svn.	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	course, it IS possible the leaked thing is not actually their code.	[01:25]
asciilifeform	http://pastebin.com/2QvBdNea	[01:25]
ozbot	Name Home Mobile Personal Email Emergency Contact Emergency Number Adam Turner - Pastebin.com	[01:25]
asciilifeform	karpeles had a wife?	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	"I think what concerns me more than anything is that they're rounding some of their values."	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	wow.	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform https://picasaweb.google.com/100317866314689750892/ProfilePhotos	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	lol o look, twitter beleeted, picasa beleeted, aww.	[01:27]
asciilifeform	was something there?	[01:27]
Bugpowder	borked	[01:27]
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asciilifeform	empty now.	[01:27]
kakobrekla	maybe its his cat.	[01:27]
Bugpowder	Apple Pie?	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	kinda fun that everyone was acutally fucking japanese girls.	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	imagine these kids, you know ? buncha weaboos start card trading website	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	end up affording to move to japan and pork lolis all dai	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	talk about living the dream.	[01:28]
asciilifeform	well, 'first ecstasy, then laundry.'	[01:28]
TATrilllaInTehMi	is the fill fox DB in the wild yet?	[01:29]
TATrilllaInTehMi	full	[01:29]
decimation	they never did the laundry apparently	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	TATrilllaInTehMi afawk.	[01:29]
ivet	can anyone direct me to a good irc channel for bitstamp trading?	[01:30]
TATrilllaInTehMi	afawk=dunno?	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	as far as we know	[01:30]
BingoBoingo	ivet: Maybe get a cloak first?	[01:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07727271 = 0.85 BTC [-] {6}	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	does #bitstamp exist ?	[01:30]
TATrilllaInTehMi	I know	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5492674#msg5492674 << check out karpeles' sock doing damage control.	[01:31]
ozbot	Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	such noobs, le wow.	[01:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00085761 = 15.9515 BTC [-] {2}	[01:31]
BingoBoingo	Oh, moar anti-porn n00bs http://deadspin.com/which-knbr-employee-is-downloading-huge-amounts-of-porn-1535336358	[01:31]
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kakobrekla	bitstamp tard came spamming re bitstamp back in 2012 or what was it, to such extent that he got a k-line	[01:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00494475 = 1.9779 BTC [-] {4}	[01:32]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[01:36]
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gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 680.0, vol: 65736.15109940 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 643.2, vol: 41149.86071 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 680.0, vol: 49700.76269936 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 644.809386, vol: 16392.57100000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 670.89335, vol: 67.80058344 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 663.4488, vol: 419.40543934 \| Volume-weighted last average: 667.901191362	[01:36]
kakobrekla	>Dj Dope	[01:36]
kakobrekla	12:32 AM (3 minutes ago) > hey guys can you resolve this as a yes, aurora already almost doubled and everyone else agrees? thanx	[01:36]
BingoBoingo	Looks like BTC has serious drama support this week	[01:36]
kakobrekla	....	[01:36]
kakobrekla	mp everyone else agrees.	[01:37]
kakobrekla	that has to be THE merit.	[01:37]
kakobrekla	what u say eh	[01:37]
ThickAsThieves	i left a disagree	[01:37]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla yes everyone agrees, let's send the winners to gox.	[01:38]
BingoBoingo	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg5491951#msg5491951	[01:39]
ozbot	BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)	[01:39]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, to me this entire shit looks like a transparent attempt of the quoted site to made 10 btc or w/e.	[01:39]
mircea_popescu	the entire auroracoin thing looks like it cost less than what the bet would bring in.	[01:39]
BingoBoingo	So verdict is "Yes" everyone gets beta access to Gox 2 Electric Bugabear	[01:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00085703 = 3.9423 BTC [-] {2}	[01:39]
mircea_popescu	no but seriously, anyone got a link to any place auroracoin thing is actually traded ?	[01:40]
ThickAsThieves	add to the FAQ: In a circumstance where an accepted bet is determined to have unreliable determining factors, BitBet shall choose factors as best it can, or refund all bets at its own discretion.	[01:41]
BingoBoingo	Refund everybody minus fee? "Poorly spec's BitBEt Med getting whipped"	[01:41]
ThickAsThieves	www.cryptsy.com	[01:41]
ThickAsThieves	https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/160	[01:41]
ozbot	Cryptsy - AUR/BTC Market	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	eh get the fuck out, cryptsy never saw 1k btc in its entire existence	[01:42]
ThickAsThieves	surely it has	[01:42]
ThickAsThieves	but i still agree	[01:42]
ThickAsThieves	this is way fishy	[01:42]
ThickAsThieves	and a scam	[01:42]
BingoBoingo	It is a lesson in forcing better specs	[01:42]
ThickAsThieves	should probably just refund everyone	[01:43]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, i can't ok this. i mean i couldn't care less either way, it's bettors' btc on either side of the bet.	[01:43]
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ThickAsThieves	i have a bet in there	[01:43]
mircea_popescu	but for the love of the sanctity of marriage...	[01:43]
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mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves i can't fucking push it either, it's a legitimate contention.	[01:44]
BingoBoingo	I mean scamcoin tricks suggest forcing people to either spec better signals or kill MPOE bot	[01:44]
kakobrekla	firstly, how will you handle 'ends up' ?	[01:44]
kakobrekla	was there an answer to this	[01:44]
ThickAsThieves	if it's legitimate it was from day 1	[01:45]
ThickAsThieves	Yes	[01:45]
ThickAsThieves	i think 'ends up' is important to define	[01:45]
kakobrekla	secondly, it doesnt specify if it has to be minable/premined or to which extent that can be	[01:45]
BingoBoingo	This might be a good time to suggest a BitBet, "Bitbet to not accept further Altcoin Marketcap bets in 2014"	[01:45]
ThickAsThieves	'ends' has a menaing after all	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla nope	[01:46]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla well it specifies "coin"	[01:46]
ThickAsThieves	precedent at bitbet is to say 'above x rate at any time, or by a specific time' etc	[01:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 806 @ 0.00480085 = 3.8695 BTC [-] {3}	[01:47]
ThickAsThieves	it specifies 'altcoin'	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	aite.	[01:47]
ThickAsThieves	in the headline at least	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	most fucked up bet of 2013 award	[01:47]
ThickAsThieves	hmm	[01:47]
ThickAsThieves	where is AUR blockchain viewable?	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	the sad irony of it all beinbg that i hazily recall mod asking me if i see a problem and me saying no.	[01:47]
ThickAsThieves	can coins in circulation be confirmed?	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	i guess i was right... it's not that there's A problem.	[01:47]
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the20year2	thecluck_ TheSeven thestringpuller ThickAsThieves thoa_afk	[01:47]
BingoBoingo	Nah, most fucked up might get litigated around 12 UTC	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves i guess if someone can be bothered to install their wallet.	[01:48]
ThickAsThieves	i'm not icelandic	[01:48]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	maybe we should just crash it.	[01:48]
BingoBoingo	x-bt doesn't trade it though	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	"bitbet resolves dubious bet by crashing dubious altscam into the ground"	[01:48]
ThickAsThieves	what websites has bitbet allowed as proof in the past?	[01:50]
ThickAsThieves	btc-e	[01:50]
ThickAsThieves	any others?	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform for he record, Лохотрон is way better than "Chumpatron"	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	bitcoincharts	[01:50]
kakobrekla	ThickAsThieves lots.	[01:50]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: but of course.	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	blockchain	[01:50]
ThickAsThieves	those dont have alts	[01:51]
ThickAsThieves	sry	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	well you askd	[01:51]
ThickAsThieves	i meant for altcoin bets	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	not really many alt bets allowed till recently.	[01:51]
asciilifeform	'you go to war with' the pidgin you have, not the literary language you wish you had...	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	also i think tpoh does not even nearly map on the english tron	[01:52]
mircea_popescu	which is more like... half of the tron troff pair than anything	[01:52]
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BingoBoingo	Fuck, Imma have to learn Russian by June aren't I	[01:53]
ThickAsThieves	how about i tell which side i bet on and you just resolve it to that?	[01:53]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: by april!	[01:53]
ThickAsThieves	as good a criteria as any here !	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	"russian by june" sounds like a good book	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	provided june is a hawt ukrainian blondy	[01:53]
nubbins`	^	[01:53]
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ThickAsThieves	Only Fools Russian	[01:53]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: If they come this fast I live way to close to a trascom outpost.	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves i imagine you're on the no side	[01:54]
nubbins`	:o	[01:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.04242 = 0.8484 BTC [-] {2}	[01:54]
ThickAsThieves	i wont tell you, otherwise Scam accusations	[01:54]
kakobrekla	it cant resolve as no yet	[01:54]
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asciilifeform	once met a military type (american) who knew just one russian phrase, but knew it very well: 'don't shoot - i know secrets'	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	jhahaha	[01:55]
ThickAsThieves	nice	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	good phrase to know.	[01:55]
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mircea_popescu	https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%BD%D0%B5+%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B5+-+%D1%8F+%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8E+%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8B&complete=0	[01:56]
BingoBoingo	I've been learning in the wrong direction then. My first phrase was "Fuck your mother горничная"	[01:57]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: did that key work?	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin yeah. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2014#541337	[01:57]
copumpkin	oh, sorry, must've been offline or mentally impaired	[01:58]
copumpkin	thanks!	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	have fun	[01:58]
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*	copumpkin tries his magic stat	[01:58]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: If you want a lower stakes pro sports team https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_Greys is probably available for under 300 BTC and... No facilities to maintain	[01:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00085861 = 20.5637 BTC [+]	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	or alternatively i could hire twenty cocksucking "masseuses" for like 12 btc a season and have the porniest pro sports team in da werld	[02:00]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: one of these days, you ought to write 'n00b guide' to sports bets. for instance, i grew up thinking of the whole concept as a chumpatron (lusers bet, the sports meisters throw matches & pocket the chumpatronium)	[02:01]
peterl	didnt the "lingerie leauge" or whatever they call it try that?	[02:01]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well, Sauget Illinois is pretty much strip clubs and nothing else	[02:01]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform no, you're exactly correct,	[02:01]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: That actually isn't far from the truth	[02:01]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: whee, it works!!!!!	[02:01]
mircea_popescu	line betting is essentially someone getting in between bitbet and the luser, offering "services" and other customer supports.	[02:01]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin wd!	[02:02]
asciilifeform	ahahaa	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform and i don't mean this stylistically. it is factually and quite mathematically exact.	[02:02]
copumpkin	what are these strange cxbtc things I have	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin well if you had smpoe and didn't log in for a year you prolly got a buncha divs and whatnot	[02:02]
copumpkin	oh sweet	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	kinda how finance works.	[02:02]
copumpkin	MPOE is by far the best investment I've ever made if you count how much I paid for it and how much it has grown and BTC has grown	[02:03]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: SPorts betting at its essence boild down to finding players and ownership groups with such animosity towards one another that throwing the game isn't and option.	[02:03]
copumpkin	investment/gamble :P	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	so good for you.	[02:03]
copumpkin	better for you :)	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	i'm sure you can find a buncha daytrading lokhs that know way better.	[02:03]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: seems like a serious amount of work to do, simply in order to make a fair gamble.	[02:03]
copumpkin	lol	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	"so far my best investment was, buy some mpex stocks and not logging in for a year"	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	sounds like fightin' words in forum land.	[02:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.0424 = 0.848 BTC [-]	[02:04]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: oh, I'm an index fund kinda guy, and I scoff at daytraders	[02:04]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: remember my 'test drive' of mpex? that's all i did...	[02:04]
*	copumpkin scoffs at daytraders	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	what do we know.	[02:05]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: It can be. While winning a bet is the best outcome, the best expectable outcome is betting on a game that provides a decent "sweat"	[02:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00085885 = 10.8645 BTC [+]	[02:05]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: this is an interesting point	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	anyway, this is a quite legitimate business endeavour. mpex is designed so that people can make their own brokerages and serve demographics on top of it.	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	bitbet is so made that people can run their own line books backed on it	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	etc.	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	growth enabling strategy.	[02:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.59909839 = 2.9955 BTC [+] {4}	[02:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00479 = 0.479 BTC [-]	[02:06]
mircea_popescu	course, this shit takes professionalism (of the actual kind), so there's not that much being done so far.	[02:06]
peterl	copumkin: great way to invest if you have the patience to not get in your own way	[02:06]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: The nature of how baseball works lends a lot of games to beign interesting sweats. Less so with hockey, still far less with Handegg, and almost never does an interesting sweat come from basketball.	[02:06]
mircea_popescu	why is this ?	[02:07]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: because of some intrinsic fact about the games? or mere historical happenstance?	[02:07]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Intrinsic facts in this ordering.	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	do tell ?	[02:07]
BingoBoingo	Baseball's offense is based on an action that at best succeeds 1/3 of the time.	[02:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.0056745 = 0.1873 BTC [+] {2}	[02:08]
BingoBoingo	Hockey similarly relys on accidental scoring.	[02:08]
BingoBoingo	With Handegg, generally there is a better team and that team wins.	[02:08]
mircea_popescu	so this makes them better sweats ?	[02:08]
mircea_popescu	ah cause randomness ?	[02:09]
BingoBoingo	With basketball pointshaving is a thing.	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	;;google pointshaving	[02:09]
gribble	Point shaving - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Jo (pointshaving) on Twitter: ; What is Point Shaving? - Basketball - About.com:	[02:09]
ThickAsThieves	by sweat you mean suspense?	[02:09]
peterl	I seem to remember reading that good baseball teams lose to bad teams more often than good basketball teams lose to bad teams	[02:09]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Yeah. Randomness makes more Interesting bets.	[02:09]
BingoBoingo	ThickAsThieves: Exactly	[02:09]
BingoBoingo	Even the Miami Marlins win some games	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	oh i see	[02:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02142205 = 0.557 BTC [+] {3}	[02:10]
BingoBoingo	Bets are not investments	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo amusingly, i just rewatched every given sunday earlier	[02:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 735 @ 0.00475315 = 3.4936 BTC [-] {12}	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	miami... sharks was it ?	[02:10]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu: Yeah. Randomness makes more Interesting bets. < that explains the just dice!	[02:10]
nubbins`	^ heh	[02:10]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: In the movie. IRL the dolphins at that level.	[02:11]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: The difference is dice players aren't patient enough to wait two hours to find out how they rolled.	[02:11]
mircea_popescu	" According to the 1999 Gambling Impact Study, an estimated $80 billion to $380 billion was illegally bet each year on sporting events in the United States. This estimate dwarfed the $2.5 billion legally bet each year in Nevada"	[02:12]
mircea_popescu	heh	[02:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00469999 = 0.5875 BTC [-] {2}	[02:12]
ThickAsThieves	"The CEO of Reddit has personally gone to bitcointalk to warn users to not invest in an IPO coin "Redditcoin" and warn they will take action if it is released."	[02:12]
ThickAsThieves	take action how?	[02:12]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well, Nevada has no professional teams	[02:12]
kakobrekla	coingen it tat	[02:12]
asciilifeform	ThickAsThieves: imagine if technology were possible! he could simply whisper 'this turd will not bear my pgp signature' and be done.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves sue, basically.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform that technology would basically be... imagine if poor people had no money.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	that's all the needed technology.	[02:13]
ThickAsThieves	shit the last thing i need is reddit after me	[02:13]
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ThickAsThieves	i dont have enough firsts or walls	[02:13]
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ThickAsThieves	fists*	[02:14]
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asciilifeform	i mean, it is a deep mystery to me why it should ever remain in doubt whether 'X endorses Y'	[02:14]
asciilifeform	given that we have public key crypto	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform "It is of negative survival value in the context of financial collapse." << this is strictly untrue.	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	trustfulness is actually always positive, and much more so in stressed environments.	[02:14]
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ThickAsThieves	so there's some kinda chatter about some bitcoin news tomorrow	[02:15]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: only as 'part of a balanced diet!' with a working 'Friend Or Foe' detector.	[02:15]
ThickAsThieves	could explain the rally	[02:15]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves just ver & co trying to wash the foundation thing.	[02:15]
kakobrekla	how ?	[02:15]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform no, i mean this. gedank :	[02:15]
ThickAsThieves	https://twitter.com/niccary/status/440598582551674880	[02:16]
ozbot	Twitter / niccary: This is going to be an exciting ...	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	two sets of chumps, separated by semipermeable membrane. on left, trustfull, on right untrustful chumps.	[02:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1774 @ 0.00460426 = 8.168 BTC [-] {7}	[02:16]
kakobrekla	maybe its theseckritbitcoinproject.io	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	simple minded sociopaths arise in both compartments with the same, god dictated frequency.	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	sociopath on trustful side easily and frictionlessly builds army, wipes other side.	[02:16]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[02:16]
mike_c	haha. from that twitter page: "@niccary @marketmakers @Bloomberg @blockchain did the price of #bitcoin go up as to insider trading?"	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	sociopath on trustless side wastes all his time being paul fucking atreides, wasting his time fighting the freemen leaders.	[02:17]
mike_c	insider trading on bitcoin!!	[02:17]
mike_c	moar regulations please	[02:17]
BingoBoingo	;;nigger --market all	[02:17]
gribble	Error: "nigger" is not a valid command.	[02:17]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.02216199 = 1.1081 BTC [+] {3}	[02:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5801 = 1.1602 BTC [-] {2}	[02:17]
BingoBoingo	Srry	[02:17]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[02:17]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 673.26, vol: 64724.23883599 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 641.724, vol: 40894.4983 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 670.5, vol: 50996.06328152 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 641.018476, vol: 16685.66700000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 666.9435, vol: 67.8440946 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 671.50415, vol: 431.73359996 \| Volume-weighted last average: 661.927690152	[02:17]
ThickAsThieves	http://texasbitcoinconference.com/hackathon	[02:18]
ozbot	Texas Bitcoin Conference - Hackathon	[02:18]
ThickAsThieves	surely someone here can nab that $1m	[02:18]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: this is correct, depending on the playing field. not everyone is inclined to build armies, though - some folks just want to kill & eat their neighbors.	[02:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00567493 = 0.1078 BTC [+]	[02:18]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform but it is not actually sociopathic to kill the trustful.	[02:18]
ThickAsThieves	"Up to 49% of your team can be remote."	[02:18]
mircea_popescu	basically, the story here is that statistically, the trustfull will fare better.	[02:18]
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mircea_popescu	for that matter, the strategy of the woman that goes "i like you, fuck me please" actually beats into shit the strategy of the woman that plays the aloof wallflower.	[02:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.02219999 = 0.2886 BTC [+] {2}	[02:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22950 @ 0.00085885 = 19.7106 BTC [+]	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	as counterintuitive and mother-in-law-wisdom contradictory this may seem.	[02:19]
cazalla	wonder if gox actually deleted account and personal details as they said they would after 90 days (from memory i was 90)	[02:19]
asciilifeform	my first imagined picture, when reading mr. o's bit, was the demise of the dodo bird.	[02:19]
mike_c	cazalla: do you really wonder?	[02:19]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: ебать его	[02:19]
BingoBoingo	I will write this n00b guide to sports bets	[02:20]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00567494 = 0.1702 BTC [+]	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform but a dodo is not a chump.	[02:20]
BingoBoingo	And in the process teach people how to only lose 30% pr year	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	your own definition includes free will.	[02:21]
ThickAsThieves	"Iceland’s Auroracoin Passes Litecoin, Becomes Third Largest Altcoin by Market Cap" coindesk...	[02:21]
asciilifeform	well, the animal is often described as having had an... inadequate reaction to predators, having lives as it did without them	[02:21]
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ThickAsThieves	enky says "Auroracoin is premined, it doesnt make sense to look the marketcap"	[02:22]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform that part is true. but it was not capable of useful work.	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	compare for better results the fate of various subhuman tribes encountered by europeans.	[02:22]
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mircea_popescu	the ones that failed to suck cock rapidly, eagerly and well are now extinct.	[02:22]
asciilifeform	i do wonder what, if anything, has been heard of the Yanomami indians since that time when traders supplied them with shotguns...	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	aztecs made hernan cortes king. aztecs still exist today. sioux though it proper to oppose. sioux are gone.	[02:24]
BingoBoingo	Well in that case the ones who never encountered small pox before are equally extinct.	[02:24]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: didn't you have something about popescuity at some point?	[02:24]
copumpkin	I don't see it anymore :(	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin yeah it was a signed message in like... 2011 ?	[02:24]
BingoBoingo	And the Sious did outlast the Aztecs.	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo how you figure ?	[02:25]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: damn, I'm out of date :(	[02:25]
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ThickAsThieves	so i posted the link to The Last Question on facebook, and it only got Likes from jesus lovers	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	lol	[02:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00562006 = 0.1124 BTC [-] {2}	[02:25]
BingoBoingo	Aztec descendents survived on their women's lubrication and in that course became something different. Sioux staying pure now merely sell gas for $6 per gallon to people who can't stay on the interstate.	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	so i've been reading stan's last post for the past fucking hour, becase you people are killing any shred of productivity.	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i kinda count "Becoming something different" as survival.	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	seeing how it's the key to survival.	[02:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1742 @ 0.00459 = 7.9958 BTC [-]	[02:27]
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cazalla	mike_c: not really : i am hopeful they did delete my ID as they said they would after i closed my account	[02:27]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well it counts as personal survival, but not cultural survival. It's a mindset. A flawed one. But it is the one dominant on this continent in spite of wrongness.	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	cazalla all that hopeful and five dollars buys you a cup of coffee.	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo shitty cultures aren't going to survive anyway.	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	people took 25k years to come up with... pottery ? fuck them, you don't even want that shit to survive.	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	kind-of why the only thought the collapse of the us evokes in my head is... well... good riddance.	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	i'd much more regret the russians should they go, even as they've been unmitigated assholes their entire history.	[02:29]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: The bigger problem is they had buffalo that many years and never managed to turn them into cows.	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	at least good novels. plus good words.	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo some argument can be brought that a relative lack of readily available iron made them kind-of stone-age-bound 4ever.	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	imo it's a weak argument.	[02:30]
BingoBoingo	Wisconsin had plenty of easy Iron	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	right.	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	i mean... most of yurp had no iron	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	sweden did, and it was enough.	[02:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 196 @ 0.00459 = 0.8996 BTC [-]	[02:30]
BingoBoingo	The problem was they used Iron to shape flint and not the right way	[02:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.0046 = 0.1886 BTC [+] {2}	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	no but i mean... nobody forbade that, you know ?	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	they could have shoved it up their butts too,	[02:31]
BingoBoingo	Still an interesting alternate history it would be if the filthy spanish did not small pox the continent and therby give the English the chance to colonize	[02:32]
mircea_popescu	just as long as they made some tenochtitlan steel sabres cca 1300	[02:32]
agamemnon23	alex_c AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij artifexd ArtyFact asciilifeform assbot Azelphur azi`	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/90s.jpg	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	he looks like such a total derp, too	[02:33]
BingoBoingo	I some alternate history Ohio could have been the real Afghanistan	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	they give stars to anyone now.	[02:33]
asciilifeform	'those were the great roaring 90s, we survived as well as we could'	[02:34]
asciilifeform	multiple generations of derps killed their predecessors, ending with a final crop of mostly-functional beings	[02:34]
mircea_popescu	but tha tdouche ? srsly ?	[02:34]
asciilifeform	as described, in great detail, elsewhere	[02:34]
mircea_popescu	people are rolling in graves.	[02:34]
mircea_popescu	"if you give that fucking nimrod 1500 i'll shoot him on general principle"	[02:35]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I'm telling you can't be more than 20 BTC next year to take them http://www.frontierleague.com/teams/frontier-greys/	[02:38]
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mircea_popescu	jaysus	[02:39]
BingoBoingo	Check the history of the town they are headquartered in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauget,_Illinois	[02:39]
mircea_popescu	http://www.frontierleague.com/league/transactions/ < o look, they have a bitcoin exchange	[02:40]
ozbot	Transactions \| Frontier League	[02:40]
BingoBoingo	Seriously the formula should be buy a frontier league team, hire some MLB players	[02:40]
BingoBoingo	???	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	what's OF SS etc	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	Profit	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	OF is outfield	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	SS is Shortstop	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	"The population was 249 at the 2000 census." hah	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	Sauget was incorporated as "Monsanto" in 1926. It was formed to provide a liberal regulatory environment and low taxes for the Monsanto chemical plants at a time when local jurisdictions had most of the responsibility for environmental rules. It was renamed in honor of Leo Sauget, its first Village President	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	ew	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well, No one but Monsanto and strip clubs actually are in the city limits	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	i wouldn't buy that shit if it was free.	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	Well they haven't had a mayor not named Sauget in nearly a century	[02:42]
BingoBoingo	Fuedalism is alive and well in /Murica	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	The Monsanto plant in Sauget was also home to a serious accident in January 1992 when worker Charles Pritchett was critically hurt. Pritchett was caught in an auger used for moving small materials and shredding rubber. He was stuck in the auger for five hours while officials attempted to extract him. Pritchett was in a coma for three months and pronounced dead twice. Pritchett's leg was eventually amputated due to infe	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	ction and the severity of the mutilation. Judge C. Glenn Stevens awarded the man $16,000,000 in 1993 to compensate him. To satisfy the judgment, the Midwest Rubber Reclaiming plant and equipment owned by the Monsanto Corporation was sold at auction in August 1993. The site has since been leveled with no future prospects for development.	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	herp	[02:43]
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BingoBoingo	herp, It was reclaimed for still more strip clubs	[02:43]
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mircea_popescu	what's a working girl make there ?	[02:44]
BingoBoingo	Depends on the tits and how not black she is	[02:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.09099433 = 0.273 BTC [+] {3}	[02:44]
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mircea_popescu	white c cup	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	24 yo	[02:45]
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BingoBoingo	hundreds a night if she's fat and black, thousands if the ain's fat and lighter. White C cup would prolly work in Caseyville where the money is better	[02:45]
BingoBoingo	Especially at 24	[02:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.0046 = 0.1426 BTC [+]	[02:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00085996 = 7.3527 BTC [-]	[02:46]
mircea_popescu	thousands a night ?	[02:46]
mircea_popescu	wow, more than most start-ups.	[02:46]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: That East Saint Welfare	[02:46]
mircea_popescu	need moar #womenintech, because currently they're not fucktarded enough to work really long hours doing relaly anyoing shit for very little money.	[02:46]
BingoBoingo	For Srs.	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	fact : the ~average~ entrepreneur will not have made by age 40 as much money as the average hs floozie working the stripping joints in saget, il made.	[02:47]
BingoBoingo	Cause they only make 4x what then men driving the trucks make	[02:47]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Most of those floozies make more than the doctors that patronize them make	[02:48]
mircea_popescu	not oft said enough.	[02:48]
BingoBoingo	And then they turn 30	[02:48]
BingoBoingo	Once they turn 30 some horses at Fairmount park sell their jizz for more than the floozie's going rate.	[02:49]
mircea_popescu	"I move that MPOE-PR be appointed supreme dictator of the Bitcoin Foundation.	[02:49]
mircea_popescu	Hopefully these will be the first orders of business: dissolve, disband, liquidate."	[02:49]
mircea_popescu	dude imagine, a chick being emperor of bitcoin.	[02:49]
BingoBoingo	So much fanfiction would happen	[02:50]
asciilifeform	why the hell not	[02:50]
mircea_popescu	^	[02:50]
mircea_popescu	you two answered each other.	[02:50]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Does Hanna have thoughts on these developments? Other than "finally" and oter breif quips?	[02:52]
mircea_popescu	you'll have to ask her i guess.	[02:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9004 @ 0.00086034 = 7.7465 BTC [+]	[02:53]
BingoBoingo	Eh, I don't go on Bitcointalk that often anymoar	[02:53]
BingoBoingo	I also have to do this paper on n00b sportbetting for asciilifeform	[02:54]
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BingoBoingo	And find ALL of the satoshi communications	[02:54]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: not direly essential, i think i got the basic idea from your summary	[02:54]
BingoBoingo	Ans still try to double those ATC holding	[02:54]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Well, n00bs don't read -assets so I might as well write it for them.	[02:55]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC	[02:57]
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mircea_popescu	not wasted effort, writing things up	[03:01]
mircea_popescu	"The last time the Chicago Cubs won a World Series, the Ottoman Empire still existed."	[03:02]
BingoBoingo	And that is why I try not to travel futher north than I-70	[03:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22230 @ 0.00086215 = 19.1656 BTC [+] {3}	[03:03]
BingoBoingo	And Cubs fans drink this swill called "Old Style" which isn't strong enough to be a malt liquor or palatable enough to be a beer.	[03:04]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: cultural, educational: http://lurkmore.to/%D0%9F%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0	[03:10]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	clearly military brothels aren't what they used to be	[03:13]
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BingoBoingo	As I write the noob sports betting article, I'd like to open a quick survey. What team would people pick to take the World Series this year?	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	lol the churkin performance at the un is pretty lulzy	[03:15]
asciilifeform	ahahaha	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i couldn't name a tea,	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	check that out, they only got 1% ish respond to mobilization orders ?	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	lmao.	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	people all derping around about war. if a general mobilization order issued by the ukraine is ignored so, who the fuck is going to go to war ? france ?	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	maybe if they make the war 4 hours a day and everyone the same height.	[03:17]
asciilifeform	'make w0r in your sp4r3 t1m3'	[03:19]
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nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bmo-customer-s-account-emptied-of-87k-as-bank-falls-for-scam-1.2555647	[03:19]
ozbot	BMO customer's account emptied of $87K as bank falls for scam - British Columbia - CBC News	[03:19]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: When I wrote the electric boogaloo bet, France's boots were the ones I imagined solving it as Yes	[03:20]
nubbins`	BMO = canada's 4th-largest bank	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	how did you think that one	[03:20]
BingoBoingo	Or Sardinia's boots	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` pretty funny.	[03:20]
ThickAsThieves	i'd bet on the Red Sox	[03:20]
ThickAsThieves	but i'm from there	[03:20]
ThickAsThieves	which i suppose is relevant	[03:20]
ThickAsThieves	sweat factor n all	[03:20]
BingoBoingo	Nah, Players as old as big Pappi don't get consecutive good seasons	[03:21]
ThickAsThieves	oh i dont watch baseball anymore	[03:21]
ThickAsThieves	only when i worked at a newspaper	[03:21]
BingoBoingo	ThickAsThieves: And this is why you follow AsicMiner and not things more interesting to drink to.	[03:21]
ThickAsThieves	i dont drink really	[03:22]
ThickAsThieves	other than for the taste sometimes	[03:22]
BingoBoingo	ThickAsThieves: And your lack of drinking is why you care about shit like ASICMiner	[03:22]
ThickAsThieves	once i fell out of it, it just makes me sleepy and feel crappy	[03:22]
BingoBoingo	ThickAsThieves: Building a habit takes work	[03:23]
BingoBoingo	So does building an addiction	[03:23]
ThickAsThieves	i put plenty time in during my 20s	[03:23]
ThickAsThieves	i get bored with everything eventually	[03:23]
BingoBoingo	For some reason I suspect your 20's weren't very roaring...	[03:23]
ThickAsThieves	i'm even bored with getting bored with things	[03:23]
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BingoBoingo	ThickAsThieves: Maybe it is time to see what Abercrombie tastes like?	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform wow, orlov is pro moscow ?!	[03:24]
ThickAsThieves	i ahev my stories	[03:24]
BingoBoingo	What would Hemmingway do?	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	how the hell does that work ? just because he dislikes the usg ?	[03:24]
ThickAsThieves	arrests, fights, etc	[03:24]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: not exactly - mostly anti-u.s./'international community'	[03:24]
asciilifeform	or rather, anti-anglo	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	but it can't seriously be contemplated ukrainians'd fare better under putin than under merkel	[03:25]
BingoBoingo	ThickAsThieves: I'm still out on bail since last spring	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	or is it ?	[03:25]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[03:25]
ThickAsThieves	well then	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	i mean... eu in no way means anglo	[03:25]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: under merkel << time for a 'joke'	[03:25]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/how-synthetic-identity-fraud-costs-canada-1b-a-year-1.2554429	[03:25]
ozbot	How 'synthetic' identity fraud costs Canada $1B a year - Canada - CBC News	[03:25]
BingoBoingo	Oh, In simple western terms mircea_popescu takes a 180 from IRC mircea	[03:25]
asciilifeform	russian derper: 'if we'd let the jerries win, we'd be riding in mercedes benz now!'	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo huh ?	[03:25]
asciilifeform	counter-derper: 'as the leather seats'	[03:25]
nubbins`	"In one case, Kelly suspects the person used in the scheme had poor English skills and, through miscommunication, wrote down what he believed was the fake name he was supposed to use, which was apparently flashing across his computer screen. This fake identity went on to have an effective credit rating, a driver’s licence, bank accounts, a telephone and an apartment (with renter’s insurance). And	[03:25]
nubbins`	all under the name: Server Froze."	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform lol	[03:26]
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mircea_popescu	server froze is actrually not a bad name	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	for a lead vocal of a postpunk band	[03:26]
nubbins`	certainly, mister froze	[03:27]
nubbins`	just sign here	[03:27]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Twitter you sounds rather pro-Putin IRC you sounds rather fuck everybody. Unfortunatly people miss the Trilema you fuck everybody needs to be literal	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	it's mister server	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i'm not pro putin in any sense. it's just that most of the people ending up in my feed are english speaking propaganda agents	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	so i tend to give them a hard time	[03:27]
nubbins`	vladimir poutine	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	lol	[03:28]
nubbins`	wouldn't be able to take the guy seriously if he wasn't such a fucking hardass	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	he's a pretty decent hardass.	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	sort-of like reaganesque i guess	[03:29]
ThickAsThieves	kenna says hi! http://www.moneyandtech.com/mar3-news-update/	[03:29]
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mircea_popescu	still tryin' huh.	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	why can't he just make an altcoin like any well behaved scammer and fade into the bitbucket.	[03:30]
asciilifeform	orlov's view seems to be that usg/nato/allies wreck countries (near east, etc.) to retard development -> to throttle resource consumption, create captive markets a la the brits at their peak, churn mil. inventory, 'controllable chaos' to feed various parasites.	[03:30]
asciilifeform	this is by no means an uncommon view.	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	it's not factually correct tho.	[03:30]
BingoBoingo	Well, it is important to remember that a lot of what made Reagan Reaganesque was his Buffet like dementia	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	what examples do we have ? hungary, slovenia, slovakia, czech, poland, romania, bulgaria, take your pick ?	[03:31]
BingoBoingo	Eh, why not pick on the polaks?	[03:31]
BingoBoingo	They had Ukraine first.	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	all these countries re-industrialised after the soviet collapse.	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	kinda indifferent which you pick	[03:32]
asciilifeform	did they?	[03:32]
asciilifeform	i suppose it depends on what you think of as 'industry'	[03:32]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: For values of first not == Mongols	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform what'd you consider a fair measure ?	[03:33]
ThickAsThieves	LTC hit hard on AUR news	[03:33]
mircea_popescu	romania finished 2 nucelar reactors that the soviets/local commies tried to get going for 15 years, and now exports electricity.	[03:33]
mircea_popescu	is this a measure ?	[03:34]
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asciilifeform	sure.	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	i really could keep on going.	[03:34]
asciilifeform	other cases (latvia) not so hot.	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	latvia is a very small unfortunate plot of land tho	[03:34]
asciilifeform	main export, unskilled labour	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	i mean... some geographical zones will just die out if trade barriers go away	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	you wouldn't say washington wrecked detroit per se would you /	[03:34]
BingoBoingo	Oh, Washington destroyed Detroit.	[03:35]
asciilifeform	why not	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	well because in that sense you could as well say i did it.	[03:35]
kakobrekla	oh lol	[03:35]
kakobrekla	>BitcoinNotBombs co-founder Davi Barker was stopped in the Manchester, NH airport by TSA agents demanding to search is bags for Bitcoins. Barker was traveling with Bitcoin related merchandise, namely metal pins with Bitcoin labels on them, which he believes is what confused the TSA agents, who didn’t seem to understand what Bitcoin actually is. Barker was eventually allowed to continue to his flight.	[03:35]
BingoBoingo	Detroit would be thriving if that false flag agent did not smash Patton with a jeep	[03:35]
ThickAsThieves	https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=bitcoin+	[03:35]
ozbot	bitcoin - Wolfram\|Alpha	[03:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07500001 = 0.15 BTC [-]	[03:35]
kakobrekla	CALL BOMB SQUAD; CHECK FOR BTC!!	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo or if they bombed japan more generouslky.	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla honestly the thing reads to me like attentionseeking behaviour.	[03:36]
ThickAsThieves	"The purpose of this wallet is to provide cold storage level security with close to web wallet convenience."	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	so the customs searched his bags. it's what customs do.	[03:36]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Japan doesn't count. Fake Gox BTC, Fake COuntry	[03:36]
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BingoBoingo	Or Cuntry	[03:36]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: smash Patton with a jeep << https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/ConspirThx.htm	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	they're not obliged nor reasonably expected to go "o heh heh bitcoin heh heh" just so random beavis feels tehy connected.	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo yeah well afaik toyota etc is what sunk detroit.	[03:37]
kakobrekla	i cant judge whats true or whats not just whats written	[03:37]
asciilifeform	'Patton, like Douglas MacArthur, was an unfortunate mixture of personal courage, technical brilliance and toxic personality, and like MacArthur, a role model to three generations of mediocrities who equate pomp and nitpicking with excellence.'	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform and as far as parasites go... russia definitely takes the cake. their (putin's) recovery model pretty much relies on parasites	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	nttawwt	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	jesus wtf.	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	who dares slurry the name of Gen Pissintherhine!	[03:38]
kakobrekla	it does remind me of nefarios travel to usa though.	[03:38]
kakobrekla	that was epic.	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	only took him 30 hours to fail ?	[03:39]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the parasites in the summary being the various u.s. 'aid' busybodies who feast on the festering corpses of countries zapped by 'international community'	[03:39]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Well unlike McArthur Patton was good at being crazy good at his job.	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	"i have 38 dollars, 15 pakistani liras, scottish food stamps and i will be here one month but is all ok"	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform none of them being you know, owners of uk football clubs.	[03:39]
BingoBoingo	Fuck I need a time machine	[03:40]
Mats_cd03	im a big fan of tom ricks' view of how the ukraine will turn out	[03:40]
Mats_cd03	http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/03/03/ukraine_call_me_a_crazy_optimist_but_i_think_that_in_the_long_run_putin_and_his_kle	[03:40]
ozbot	Ukraine: Call me a crazy optimist, but I think that in the long run, Putin and his kleptocratic pals	[03:40]
BingoBoingo	We just need to advance civilization to RoboKleptocracy already and be done with it	[03:40]
mod6	arnt we alreday there?	[03:41]
Mats_cd03	putin is avon barksdale	[03:42]
BingoBoingo	mod6: Nah, robots still steal for people. We need robots to steal for the sake of theft being fun	[03:42]
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asciilifeform	'orc culture 101.' in the lands of the orcs, when 'human' shows up and says 'we can have government without corruption!' what people hear is 'if we'd let the jerries win, we could be in a mercedes benz. but it isn't too late! and if we end up as the seats, that's our place'	[03:42]
mod6	BingoBoingo: ahh	[03:42]
Mats_cd03	a younger, more handsome negro will surely replace him one day	[03:42]
asciilifeform	like that chinese fellow who wrote that his country ought to be colonized for 300 years before it can be considered 'civilized'	[03:42]
BingoBoingo	Mats_cd03: Pharrel?	[03:42]
asciilifeform	and thrown in oubliette for his troubles	[03:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00465108 = 0.1535 BTC [-]	[03:42]
asciilifeform	now a brit, french, or one of us - might agree! but who expects the chinese crown to agree.	[03:43]
asciilifeform	you'd have to be an idiot	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	as if anyone could be bothered to colonize china.	[03:43]
asciilifeform	or a traitor, sure of protection from his foreign master	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	if every able bodied white guy did nothing but rape chinese women from now on to the rest of his life,	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	it still wouldn't be done	[03:43]
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BingoBoingo	I dunno china takes order well, also heroin well	[03:43]
asciilifeform	'colonize' doesn't have to mean 'administer british-style'	[03:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.043249 = 0.173 BTC [+]	[03:43]
asciilifeform	could also mean 'biodiesel'	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo but that's the point. you'd have to somehow teach them to stop taking order.	[03:44]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform nah, that's not colonize for srsly.	[03:44]
asciilifeform	or mrs. thatcher's 'we need no more than 15 mil. russians. to service the pipeline.'	[03:44]
mircea_popescu	lol she actually said that ?	[03:44]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i'll say now that i was never able to track down an authoritative proof of this.	[03:45]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Nah, you start an IRL Breaking Bad spinoff, call it "The Real Empire Business" All of a sudden you have a nation of 2 billion central kentucky hillbillies	[03:45]
asciilifeform	but, to 50% of russian-speaking people, she may as well have said it	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	ya well...	[03:45]
asciilifeform	(there is also no proof that stalin spoke the famous 'no man no problem')	[03:45]
asciilifeform	but he might as well have	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform in stalin's case, the proof is in the picture	[03:45]
asciilifeform	(or 'million deaths is a statistic, one death a tragedy')	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	(that famous one, on the river side)	[03:46]
btcleaker	<-- Insider with ground breaking tip. Shoot mail @ leakerbitcoin@forward.cat for more info	[03:46]
btcleaker	<-- Insider with ground breaking tip. Shoot mail @ leakerbitcoin@forward.cat for more info	[03:46]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	sigh	[03:46]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 689.91, vol: 65493.93688626 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 659.011, vol: 40669.46841 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 687.0, vol: 51698.83657489 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 653.8679, vol: 17764.86200000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 687.912, vol: 68.30158652 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 671.1525, vol: 433.36901496 \| Volume-weighted last average: 678.238779079	[03:47]
BingoBoingo	leaker quit too soon to get mocked	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	how fucking retarded are kids today ? if you're an insider you need to introduce yourself ?	[03:47]
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mircea_popescu	wait, over 600 already ?	[03:47]
asciilifeform	spam'n'scram	[03:47]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Very retarded see 2bitIdjit for deets	[03:47]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Over 600 since MPOE resolved	[03:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 99 @ 0.0062001 = 0.6138 BTC [-] {2}	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[03:48]
BingoBoingo	For February	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	if i fucking have a heart attack "suddenly" you're all screwed.	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	cokea btw, here's a pro tip : using random seven proxies is not enough	[03:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21431 @ 0.00086292 = 18.4932 BTC [+] {2}	[03:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 144 @ 0.00462948 = 0.6666 BTC [-] {4}	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	we still can tell.	[03:49]
cokea	wat	[03:49]
nubbins`	.cat?	[03:49]
cokea	I'm a better troll than that	[03:49]
cokea	Frozenway is a known VPN mircea_popescu	[03:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 29 @ 0.00605506 = 0.1756 BTC [-] {5}	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` supposedly catalan	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	tey're running out of gimmicks.	[03:50]
nubbins`	interesting	[03:50]
nubbins`	didn't know non-us countries got 3-letter TLDs	[03:50]
nubbins`	not that it's a country	[03:51]
mircea_popescu	what the web really needs is a .derp	[03:51]
nubbins`	can you imagine the gold rush on that?	[03:51]
mircea_popescu	srsly.	[03:51]
BingoBoingo	cokea: So what brings you here? ENlightenment?	[03:51]
BingoBoingo	cokea: Do you write for wired?	[03:52]
nubbins`	3-letter .derp domain for sale, 5k btc	[03:52]
cokea	viagra spam BingoBoingo	[03:52]
cokea	you got that for me BingoBoingo?	[03:52]
BingoBoingo	cokea: Nah kakobrekla would have caught that.	[03:52]
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mircea_popescu	" So, now we are threatening to start World War Three because Russia is trying to control the chaos in a failed state on its border — a state that our own government spooks provoked into failure?"	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	dude how the fuck is the ukraine a failed state	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	cokea: Sometime I am drunk. SOmetimes I am stupid. You didn't catch me here while drunk, so...	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	what are htese people all about.	[03:53]
punkman1	mircea_popescu: you can have .derp for like $200k	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	it's like everyone has nothing better to do than ride the hyperbolae.	[03:53]
cokea	BingoBoingo: I'm also mining manually	[03:53]
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btcleak	Guess who's back	[03:53]
nubbins`	you?	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	punkman1 maybe once i'm older.	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	cokea: Must be some serious carpal tunnel	[03:53]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: how the fuck is the ukraine a failed state << exactly same way as the u.s.	[03:53]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i dunno. last i visited i had a ton of fun.	[03:54]
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mircea_popescu	by comparison, ny was boring as fuck.	[03:54]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: Want some real insider leaks?	[03:54]
Multivac	btcleak is tiberius! I hope.	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	;;google man pissing, urethal sounds	[03:54]
asciilifeform	bankrupt, serious ethnic split, little to no history as an actual nation... dead industry	[03:54]
gribble	If You Stick Things in Your Pee Hole, Awful Things Will Happen - Vice: ; Urology Care Foundation - Urology A-Z - Urethral Stricture Disease: ; A Vibrating Urethral Sound - ShopInPrivate.com:	[03:54]
asciilifeform	subject beaten to death elsewhere	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	^ insider leak	[03:54]
btcleak	I got the hottest chili ever BingoBoingo Multivac	[03:54]
BingoBoingo	;;ud sound docking	[03:54]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sound%20Docking \| The act of inserting one's penis into another man's urethra. See also Sounding and Docking.	[03:54]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: Sound Docking	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i dunno, it doesn't seem failed at all to me.	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	solmalia is a failed state.	[03:55]
btcleak	I guess I'd be better off scamming tho	[03:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00086085 = 5.4483 BTC [-]	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	afghanistan, as pumped by the us is a failed state.	[03:55]
BingoBoingo	Prolly better ROI	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	perhaps iraq too. arguably.	[03:55]
btcleak	ya	[03:55]
btcleak	HOTTEST SHIT ON MTGOX	[03:55]
nubbins`	Multivac: i read a story about you today	[03:55]
asciilifeform	currently trying to confirm or refuse a certain interesting rumour	[03:55]
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btcleak	Mine isn't a rumor	[03:55]
btcleak	It comes from the man himself	[03:55]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: THis chan largely gave up on Gox 9 months ago. Unless Gox had a baby we don't much care; unless paternity test.	[03:56]
asciilifeform	that yanukovych was in the process of selling vast tracts of land in u. to the chinese	[03:56]
asciilifeform	to be farmed to exhaustion	[03:56]
btcleak	lol fuck gox BingoBoingo	[03:56]
asciilifeform	(as they are presently doing elsewhere)	[03:56]
nubbins`	BingoBoingo: i used to know a lot of freaks, some of whom were into sounding (not sound docking)	[03:56]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform seeing how i never heard a peep of this until AFTER the troubles, i'd say it's propaganda	[03:56]
asciilifeform	if true, it's a bit of a 'pox on both houses'	[03:56]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: So you have some credentials? SOme history?	[03:57]
asciilifeform	given that, after a russian victory, the process (if actual) will likely re-start	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	good land is in the west anyway	[03:57]
btcleak	BingoBoingo: I'm some random guy	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	or am i confused ?	[03:57]
asciilifeform	center.	[03:57]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: So am I	[03:57]
btcleak	or else I would make you pay forward for the info not after it happens	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo after one makes /. first page no longer random	[03:57]
asciilifeform	west u. is a kind of mournful shithole similar to certain u.s. 'red states'	[03:58]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: prolly ture	[03:58]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: OMG, BingoBoingo is more real than Firstname Lastname	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	what's "Farmed to exhaustion" mean anyway.	[03:58]
BingoBoingo	Imma have to read some Sartre	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	modern agriculture uses soil as substrate, plants are fed oil.	[03:58]
nubbins`	nevermind sartre, read some hugh pickens	[03:58]
nubbins`	;p	[03:59]
btcleak	Sartre is a faggot BingoBoingo	[03:59]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as an agricultural equivalent of 'strip mining'	[03:59]
btcleak	and a shitty writer BingoBoingo	[03:59]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: Maybe Imma faggot gonna wear your anus around my clit?	[03:59]
btcleak	shitty writer sartre	[03:59]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yes. and everyone is practicing it.	[03:59]
mircea_popescu	and has been	[03:59]
mircea_popescu	for over 50 years.	[04:00]
btcleak	hey mircea_popescu	[04:00]
btcleak	I am so in love with you that I want to give you the info for free	[04:00]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: I am dealing with a real existential crisis where Immaginary me is bigger than actual me.	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	got tits ?	[04:00]
btcleak	I can grow some for you	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	so grow some tits and give me your titlove for free.	[04:00]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: I would like if you gave me your anus and 15 minutes of time to sort out my feelings.	[04:00]
btcleak	I will BingoBoingo	[04:00]
btcleak	LOL this info is funny	[04:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91200 @ 0.00086367 = 78.7667 BTC [+] {6}	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	i wonder how the various ws folk will adapt to this chan in the coming years.	[04:01]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: They adapt or die	[04:01]
btcleak	you mean when bitcoin ponzi disappear?	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	yeah but it'll be interesting.	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	btcleak btc ponzis can not disappear.	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	they haven't disappeared in fiat yet	[04:01]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: Protip: Bing the lube or I'll make the lube	[04:01]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: idea was that this (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/04619a7a-5da2-11e3-95bd-00144feabdc0.html) transport project would ship the resulting goods home.	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	o o that	[04:02]
btcleak	lol it will mircea_popescu	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	isn't that an old nazis did it story ?	[04:02]
btcleak	bitcoin is a shit technology	[04:02]
asciilifeform	i've no conclusive evidence! i live in an entirely different failed state, on other side of atlantic ocean.	[04:02]
btcleak	who are the rich faggots here	[04:02]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: What ridiculous tech do you advance? LISP Machines?	[04:02]
btcleak	I need to make a deal regarding my info	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	this kunstler.com thing reads like alex jones in a different cape.	[04:03]
btcleak	BingoBoingo: auto fleshlights	[04:03]
btcleak	mircea_popescu redirect me to the rich folks	[04:03]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: Make your case.	[04:03]
mircea_popescu	go pester ver. he may have 18 btc or so left.	[04:03]
asciilifeform	http://www.apk-inform.com/en/news/1025846	[04:03]
ozbot	Ukraine: Council of Ministers of Crimea and Chinese companies agreed to jointly construct a grain te	[04:03]
asciilifeform	etc.	[04:04]
BingoBoingo	Or in the words of fiddy, get rich or dy trying	[04:04]
btcleak	fuck 18 btc	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform isn't it a little nutty to extrapolate based on that ?	[04:04]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: sure.	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	romania has a grain terminal in constanta large enough to ship the ukraine whole	[04:05]
asciilifeform	a not entirely-implausible scenario, though.	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	still... it's just a terminal	[04:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.0008621 = 14.1384 BTC [-]	[04:05]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: I may or may not have 300 kbtc. If you offer news that gets a response from me other than nigga, maybe you get 20BTC	[04:05]
asciilifeform	http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/09/25/countries-like-china-want-foreign-farm-land/	[04:05]
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ozbot	Why China Wants (and Needs) Foreign Farm Land – News Watch	[04:05]
btcleak	lol BingoBoingo	[04:05]
btcleak	I have a confirmed news that is happening in a 2 weeks time frame	[04:05]
BingoBoingo	Nigga please btcleak	[04:05]
asciilifeform	' The deal will funnel $2.6 billion into Ukraine annually for the next 50 years. China will also send seeds and fertilizer, as well as build some vital infrastructure in Crimea...'	[04:06]
asciilifeform	sept. 25, 2013	[04:06]
nubbins`	big oil popeline terminates in constanta as well, no?	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	so this is somehow a bad thing ?	[04:06]
nubbins`	lel popeline	[04:06]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: Maybe we don't care about foundation jacking off and jizzing?	[04:06]
btcleak	some good shit to be short on	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	this is what the ukraine does, farms for export.	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	since what, 1820	[04:06]
btcleak	who cares of foundation BingoBoingo	[04:06]
nubbins`	btcleak nobody gives a fuck about your news :(	[04:06]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: I dunno? Nigas?	[04:06]
btcleak	nubbins`: yes you love me	[04:06]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: somehow a bad thing ? << we'll see when it revvs up	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	i guess.	[04:07]
asciilifeform	notice that if china merely wanted to buy the existing agri output, it easily could	[04:07]
BingoBoingo	btcleak: Id I didn't short in Sept 2009 why would I short nao?	[04:07]
asciilifeform	but no, they want to buy land, ship in own agrichemistry, etc	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	ukraine has one of the fucking worst productivities in the world.	[04:07]
asciilifeform	gotta wonder why	[04:08]
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mircea_popescu	do you know what they got per hectare in 2012 ?	[04:08]
nubbins`	1btc	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	something like 1800kgs	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	they could easily get 4k+	[04:08]
asciilifeform	by 'burning the candle at both ends', no?	[04:08]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Parts of Ukraine have great productivity, other parts suck though. Ukraine is an odd mix of Kansas and Arizona	[04:08]
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asciilifeform	as the chinese are suspected of planning	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	well no, by fucking farming properly.	[04:09]
BingoBoingo	^^	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	they don't even plow half the time	[04:09]
asciilifeform	that's kinda how you keep the thing going, no?	[04:09]
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mircea_popescu	http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2011/11/08/186900-a-man-and-a-horse-plough-up-the-field-near-the-village-of-bugayvka-som.jpg	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	i r not kid you.	[04:09]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: No, you plow all of the time, even during fallow years	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform there's a difference between fingerfucking and fucking a girl.	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	as long as you don't actually use your knee it doesn't harm her in any way	[04:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5851 BTC [+]	[04:10]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: funnily, that horse scene is my father's main memory of his visit to Ro. in the early '80s!	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	well yeah, but meanwhile ro industrialised	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	cause eu capital.	[04:10]
asciilifeform	right	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	ukraine has to do the same thing somehow	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	i guess htey're stuck with chinese capital	[04:10]
asciilifeform	well, the east still has the sov. era industry going, sort of.	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	on the face of things this is all sensible, is what i'm saying. i dun see the big threat	[04:11]
asciilifeform	there wouldn't have been a wankfest if the west u. folks didn't 'go full bore latvian' and decree a 'lowering into prison bitch' of the rus. half	[04:11]
BingoBoingo	If 'Murica can Industrialize so can Ukraine, http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/raptor-ii	[04:11]
asciilifeform	'language exams', etc	[04:12]
BingoBoingo	I am a pole and so can you	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	i guess.	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	im not even sure what the tension was, exactly.	[04:12]
asciilifeform	it was a foolish declaration of chimp war, egged on by the u.s	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	there defo was some sort of tension	[04:12]
asciilifeform	as described by mr.o	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform listen, you can't do that from outside.	[04:12]
BingoBoingo	2001 was a Chimp war kakobrekla can attest	[04:12]
asciilifeform	you do it from inside	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	it's some sexual pathology that's at the root of it.	[04:12]
asciilifeform	using 'ngo	[04:12]
asciilifeform	'	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	nah	[04:13]
kakobrekla	lol BingoBoingo	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	if ngos worked then white chicks wouldn't be raped five times a year on average in south africa today	[04:13]
BingoBoingo	Fucking ass Monoliths	[04:13]
asciilifeform	and by dropping hints that you'll support rebels	[04:13]
kakobrekla	BingoBoingo looks like ukraine needs one	[04:13]
asciilifeform	(see, e.g. mr saakashvili)	[04:13]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: I might have one in the garage. Would you escrow the sale of a monolith to the unidentified gunmen?	[04:14]
kakobrekla	better sleep on that one.	[04:15]
BingoBoingo	I need to get rid of this monolith because the squirrels are starting to play nigga golf	[04:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00086085 = 3.6207 BTC [-]	[04:15]
kakobrekla	lol	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i tell you, to me this sounds like thje proposition that a bank can provoke a divorce	[04:15]
BingoBoingo	They've gone black, soon they won't come back	[04:15]
BingoBoingo	Also I'd like the garage opener to work instead of returning "err: All of Jupiter's moons are yours except Europa"	[04:16]
BingoBoingo	Annoying ass cargo cult technology	[04:17]
asciilifeform	attempt no parking there.	[04:17]
btcleak	brb niggers	[04:17]
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BingoBoingo	Fucking it. Imma load up a space trolley full of ford escorts and make parking there	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	is ford escort slang for a black stripper with lobster tail ?	[04:18]
nubbins`	yeah	[04:18]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Unfortunatley not	[04:18]
nubbins`	rob ford likes lobster	[04:18]
nubbins`	and tail	[04:19]
BingoBoingo	When I was in high school an acquainance from the boonies came from a family with a surplus of ford passengar cars.	[04:19]
BingoBoingo	The family did things out of boredom like fit dump truck motors into passenger coupes	[04:20]
nubbins`	hah	[04:20]
BingoBoingo	And nao their kid can't fly aero planes	[04:20]
BingoBoingo	Not after that great 4th of july party	[04:20]
BingoBoingo	WHere they turned a ford into a firework barge	[04:21]
BingoBoingo	Eh, though. Live and let dies.	[04:21]
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BingoBoingo	Even though the kid fit dump truck power in hatchback confines	[04:22]
nubbins`	fiesta tow truck	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	nah this is nuts. there's not going to be any "de-nazifying" of anything, wtf.	[04:23]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: Well it was a 94 escort and an 88 F-OMNGWTFBBQ Super DUty	[04:24]
nubbins`	i like it	[04:24]
nubbins`	always wanted to hide a muscle car inside a shitbox chassis	[04:24]
nubbins`	this is even better	[04:24]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: I have no idea if it is still	[04:25]
BingoBoingo	Haven't seen the kid since '06	[04:25]
nubbins`	man, david byrne doesn't stop singing about food, does he?	[04:25]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: The moral of the story before police get involved is that no, torque alone does not make you fast.	[04:27]
nubbins`	oh, of course not	[04:27]
nubbins`	just like the idea of surprises under the hood	[04:27]
nubbins`	whether it be something that can smoke a cop car or something that can tow a fleet of em	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	^	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	i was thinking, and wtf do you do for transmission	[04:29]
diametric	evening gents	[04:29]
BingoBoingo	Well last time I saw him I introduced him to a girl who was good at the dick sucking and wanted to sell a Dodge neon.	[04:29]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: You half ass the transmission	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	so it'll do... 60mph ?	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	except... real easy ?	[04:30]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Hopefully	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	even at say 30% inclines ?	[04:30]
BingoBoingo	Two bolts plus a crankshaft	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	ok that'll prolly blow	[04:30]
BingoBoingo	Only blow so often though	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	you know there's a reason detached semi heads are run a certain way	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	too light spells trouble	[04:30]
BingoBoingo	Of course	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	diametric heya	[04:31]
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BingoBoingo	The early 1990's though inherited a lot of the ethos of the 1980's where any motor by a company should work with any transmission	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	yeah, because this is how it works in mechanics.	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	also any roman candle should work with any asshole.	[04:33]
copumpkin	lol	[04:33]
BingoBoingo	I may have tested that last one...	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	anyway, i'd love to see the hand-made transmission some afficionado made to allow a dump truck engine in his thunderbird	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	because such a thing COULD be done, and it'd probably be awesome.	[04:35]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Do you want me to give you some email addresses?	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	lol noty.	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	but pix if you have them.	[04:35]
BingoBoingo	I know someone not on a no fly list who does that for their Demo cars	[04:35]
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mircea_popescu	also since we're talking shafts :	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/crisis-in-south-africa-the-shocking-practice-of-corrective-rape--aimed-at-curing-lesbians-9033224.html	[04:36]
ozbot	Crisis in South Africa: The shocking practice of 'corrective rape' - aimed at 'curing' lesbians - A	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if this ever actually worked.	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	"i used to kinda not like doing it with men, but then these dudes fucked me really roughly and now i'm like all fixed"	[04:37]
dub	i've had rough sex with a lesbian	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	without asking her ?	[04:38]
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mircea_popescu	"I used to sleep under a bridge, not eat, just cry. I hanged myself; it was on a Monday. I took pills, took alcohol, drank cleaning appliances and then hanged myself. But God said, 'It is not your time'."	[04:39]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: So are you asking if someone can deliver to you a thundrbird with a dump truck motor or asking for opinions whether or not it can be done?	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	i was more like idly trolling for pics	[04:39]
dub	she was into it, unkown if it cured her muff addiction	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	why would you want to cure such a thing anyway	[04:40]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: The one big example I say in person was well before I had a computer with more than two colors on its monitor much less a digital camera.	[04:41]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i imagine because of the limitations of alloys you'd prolly end up with rather complex coggery	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well the first example I saw ended its life because the operator insisted on running it on Jet A fuel	[04:42]
MisterE	http://storify.com/billmon1/the-ukrainian-grand-delusion	[04:42]
MisterE	war will be good for BTC	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	there shall be no war.	[04:43]
MisterE	its already over	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	pretty much	[04:43]
MisterE	Putin won	[04:43]
nubbins`	wait	[04:43]
nubbins`	she drank cleaning appliances?	[04:43]
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BingoBoingo	MisterE: It isn't over but it isn't a war	[04:43]
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nubbins`	like what, a vacuum cleaner?	[04:43]
MisterE	thought that was a musical insturment	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` she means bleach	[04:44]
nubbins`	guess it affected her language center	[04:45]
MisterE	drinking bleach is the most retarded thing to do	[04:45]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Is Romania left or right hand drive?	[04:45]
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MisterE	you will never die	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	left	[04:46]
nubbins`	;;seen bloctoc	[04:46]
gribble	bloctoc was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 22 hours, 31 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: It will help government determine the size of the bailout required	[04:46]
BingoBoingo	;;seen vexual	[04:46]
gribble	vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 3 hours, 30 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: lasers in the eye is never good tat	[04:46]
bloctoc	nubbins' looking for me?	[04:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00086121 = 12.4014 BTC [+]	[04:47]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: So one estimate request got a response already "Depends on the dump truck motor. Are you talking about a standard Volvo or cummins diesel? Or are you talking about a larger super industrial engine? Any motor can be out in any car. All it takes is a torch, welder, and some good math."	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	haha	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	you probably shouldn't hustle these good people, they probably have productive stuff to do with their tiem	[04:51]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well, if you want a new car to be chauffered in...	[04:51]
nubbins`	just pinging! any luck w/ eulora?	[04:52]
BingoBoingo	Left hand drive	[04:52]
BingoBoingo	I pinged a party with earnest experience in the matter.	[04:52]
artifexd	No. Stuck on cel3d right now.	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo not rly. about to move here anyway.	[04:52]
nubbins`	ah	[04:52]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: So Argentina plan is underway?	[04:53]
*	mircea_popescu admires how we've picked the most persnickety software stack imaginable, apparently.	[04:53]
nubbins`	ah, it's not so bad	[04:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00086059 = 26.291 BTC [-] {2}	[04:57]
MisterE	How does a Roma know a word like persnickety?	[04:57]
MisterE	hardly european	[04:58]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu knows all	[04:59]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu is moving?	[04:59]
KRS-One	lol	[04:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.006001 = 0.12 BTC [-]	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform gotta see the world.	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	2015 mp conference won't be in timisoara, that's for sure.	[05:00]
BingoBoingo	Well Bingo Leaks remember Argentine apartements being quoted specificaly.	[05:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21278 @ 0.00085872 = 18.2718 BTC [-] {2}	[05:04]
asciilifeform	neat	[05:04]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12163 @ 0.00085739 = 10.4284 BTC [-] {2}	[05:05]
BingoBoingo	Well going to South America would make an incredibly torqued T-Bird easier to deliver	[05:05]
dignork	Lol, got it from ukranian friends: http://imgur.com/ja0PCoE	[05:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83287 @ 0.00085643 = 71.3295 BTC [-] {3}	[05:06]
BingoBoingo	dignork: STFU, none of those people have patches. They could be self defense units.	[05:07]
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dignork	BingoBoingo, i know, still funny	[05:07]
BingoBoingo	dignork: Eat a dick, I am waiting for serious news, not more black ops OMGWTFBBQ dickign around.	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00085472 = 22.3082 BTC [-] {3}	[05:08]
copumpkin	these MPOE sales aren't me, I promise	[05:08]
copumpkin	just because I have my key back doesn't mean I'm dumping!	[05:08]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: serious news << like a French invasion?	[05:08]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: French or Sardinian work. Those new Raphaels are pretty hot shit.	[05:09]
dignork	BingoBoingo, gosh, it was a joke, i have friends on both sides too.	[05:09]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: why not Spanish? Chinese?	[05:09]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: They weren't in Crimea I. French, British or Sardinian, baby that's what I need.	[05:10]
asciilifeform	you left out turks.	[05:11]
BingoBoingo	dignork: Hard to communicate umor over text without being permissive isn;t it.	[05:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.00466001 = 0.6291 BTC [+] {3}	[05:11]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Turks would be forced into the same role, Black Sea gatekeepers	[05:11]
BingoBoingo	ATM unless Turks decide otherwise the black sea is only for countries with Black sea borders	[05:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 38 @ 0.006 = 0.228 BTC [-]	[05:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04324997 = 0.1297 BTC [+]	[05:13]
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BingoBoingo	Pretty much the same role the Ottmans professed to hold	[05:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 187 @ 0.00597994 = 1.1182 BTC [-] {2}	[05:14]
Multivac	According to Deadline, the White House has recommended that the Supreme Court rule against Aereo when broadcasters bring its service to trial this April.	[05:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0436663 = 0.131 BTC [+] {2}	[05:15]
BingoBoingo	I almost atm respect MRBigg the Ripple and Bearshare shill over Obama	[05:16]
dignork	BingoBoingo, not really, sarcasm is a tricky one	[05:17]
BingoBoingo	He nevar hid his hollywood shillness	[05:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00086187 = 9.8684 BTC [+] {2}	[05:18]
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mircea_popescu	romania invades, takes over odessa	[05:25]
asciilifeform	ahahaha	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	dun dun dun	[05:26]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: plz don't blow away the other cute cherub statue	[05:26]
asciilifeform	in my old apt.	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:26]
BingoBoingo	Plz take little Egypt next	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	ROMANIA TAKES IT ALL	[05:26]
BingoBoingo	Missouri smells bad and we are tired of being neighbors	[05:27]
mircea_popescu	Multivac hwo the fuck is this white house to "recommend" wtf.	[05:27]
BingoBoingo	Mardigras weekend just happened and everything to the west smells like piss	[05:27]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: always wondered, what % piss by volume, is... Ganges river.	[05:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02120003 = 0.1696 BTC [-]	[05:28]
asciilifeform	(assuming it is a physically meaningful question)	[05:28]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: In the Ganges river case I'd guess at least 15%	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform all surface water has been pissed on average four times	[05:29]
BingoBoingo	Maybe some inbound amonium gets caught in clays, but...	[05:29]
asciilifeform	well, that.	[05:29]
BingoBoingo	Consider the Illinois river is mostly an untreated sewer flowing from Chicago and manages to support sufficient silver carp that baseball bats and armor are the prefered means for fishish them	[05:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40900 @ 0.00085702 = 35.0521 BTC [-] {2}	[05:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43492 @ 0.00085456 = 37.1665 BTC [-] {3}	[05:32]
MisterE	Russia has been in control down there forever already	[05:34]
copumpkin	omg MPOE selloff	[05:34]
MisterE	they just 'formalizing' it	[05:34]
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MisterE	yea?	[05:34]
asciilifeform	MisterE: in Chicago?	[05:34]
asciilifeform	did i sleep through something?	[05:34]
MisterE	well it's chicage	[05:35]
MisterE	Russians would be just another gang of thugs :p	[05:35]
MisterE	you'd outlast them	[05:35]
MisterE	no I'm saying the Crimea	[05:35]
BingoBoingo	MisterE: You mean they wouldn't outlast the Northside Polaks	[05:35]
MisterE	russia already controlled it	[05:35]
BingoBoingo	Oh, not Chicago talk	[05:36]
MisterE	what do the Turks have to say?	[05:36]
MisterE	that will be key	[05:37]
BingoBoingo	Dunno any Chicago Turks	[05:37]
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BingoBoingo	Are the Turks gonna let the Sardinians ty to force Crimea to trade again?	[05:37]
MisterE	I know there's a lot of history there and I don't know enough of it	[05:38]
MisterE	basically lots of stacks of bodies	[05:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46443 @ 0.00085431 = 39.6767 BTC [-] {2}	[05:40]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27844 @ 0.0008541 = 23.7816 BTC [-] {2}	[05:46]
copumpkin	quit selling all the MPOE!	[05:48]
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gribble	You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7	[06:01]
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benkay	!l m mpoe	[06:03]
assbot	I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.	[06:03]
BingoBoingo	Watching Karl Urban in Almost Human I have to wonder... Why not just a Judge Dread serial?	[06:03]
benkay	!h	[06:03]
assbot	List of commands:	[06:03]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}	[06:03]
assbot	!last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}	[06:03]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[06:03]
assbot	!rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}	[06:03]
assbot	!exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}	[06:03]
assbot	!jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)	[06:03]
assbot	!bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b}	[06:03]
assbot	!quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}	[06:03]
BingoBoingo	!jd	[06:03]
benkay	!t m s.mpoe	[06:03]
assbot	Just-Dice stat: 14170 BTC profit, 40.6k BTC invested, 762.97 mio bets, 5.06 mio BTC wagered	[06:03]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00085369 / 0.00085835 / 0.00086433 (1018179 shares, 873.96 BTC), 7D: 0.000745 / 0.00086217 / 0.00088851 (8430211 shares, 7,268.32 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00087418 / 0.00094153 (29592229 shares, 25,868.96 BTC)	[06:03]
benkay	!l m s.mpoe	[06:04]
assbot	Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.0008541 BTC [-]	[06:04]
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BingoBoingo	You got a Bitcoin Stick?	[06:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00543999 = 0.1034 BTC [+] {5}	[06:12]
benkay	walk softly and carry a bitcoin stick.	[06:12]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5496175#msg5496175	[06:14]
ozbot	Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	and the plot trickens	[06:14]
BingoBoingo	Trickens because BTC in itself now has gotten boring	[06:15]
BingoBoingo	Gutten Borrin	[06:16]
BingoBoingo	Here be the Bitten Coins	[06:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.0008493 = 20.2558 BTC [-] {2}	[06:16]
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cokea	i am good	[06:17]
cokea	i was quoted by the WSJ for a troll post	[06:17]
cokea	good life	[06:17]
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Multivac	Alert! Alert! MPOE-PR trying to destroy the Bitcoin!	[06:20]
diametric	asciilifeform: finally found some pods for those logic analyzers i got.	[06:23]
asciilifeform	diametric: neato! where ?	[06:23]
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diametric	ebay, some showed up finally, though almost all of them are way overpriced. $50-$150, found one for $10 though	[06:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00466023 = 0.2656 BTC [+] {2}	[06:25]
asciilifeform	diametric: drop a photo of the priceless antique here, for the others	[06:26]
diametric	http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-HEWLETT-PACKARD-1651B-LOGIC-ANALYZER-/221036512792	[06:26]
diametric	I own two of these beautiful machines	[06:27]
diametric	but no pods.	[06:27]
diametric	well until i get it hopefully next week	[06:27]
asciilifeform	ought to post a pic of operating unit	[06:27]
asciilifeform	it's well worth seeing	[06:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59988989 = 1.1998 BTC [+] {2}	[06:28]
diametric	speaking of tools, still need my oscilloscope?	[06:28]
asciilifeform	diametric: for the moment. i shall be done with it soon.	[06:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44298 @ 0.00084722 = 37.5302 BTC [-]	[06:29]
*	asciilifeform borrowed a very rare and spiffy instrument from diametric to test rngs.	[06:29]
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KRS-One	http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/03/bitcoin-exchange/	[06:32]
ozbot	The Inside Story of Mt. Gox, Bitcoin's $460 Million Disaster \| Wired Enterprise \| Wired.com	[06:32]
KRS-One	look at that stupid look on his fucking face	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	lol gutten boring	[06:32]
KRS-One	.bait	[06:32]
ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6i69aVcNe1r2mc2eo1_1280.jpg	[06:32]
KRS-One	aw HELL ya	[06:32]
BingoBoingo	Eh, My hometown was almsot genecided during the Great war.	[06:33]
Duffer1	https://blockchain.info/address/1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW	[06:34]
ozbot	Bitcoin Address 1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW	[06:34]
Duffer1	bitcoin foundation donation address	[06:34]
twizt	lol	[06:35]
twizt	so many coins	[06:35]
Duffer1	i'm actually surprised they got less than labcoin	[06:35]
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BingoBoingo	Duffer1: I am not at all	[06:36]
BingoBoingo	Also Duffer1 It is Monday, why are you not streaming Archer and watching a better alternate reality future for 'Murica?	[06:37]
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Duffer1	i'm never sure when it's on, i always watch later	[06:39]
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BingoBoingo	Oh shit Duffer1 Illegally stream it nao	[06:39]
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BingoBoingo	Highway to the Danger Zone	[06:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00466051 = 0.233 BTC [+]	[06:43]
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mod6	archer++	[06:44]
MisterE	http://news.yahoo.com/giant-virus-resurrected-permafrost-30-000-years-202120390.html	[06:46]
ozbot	Giant Virus Resurrected from Permafrost After 30,000 Years - Yahoo News	[06:46]
BingoBoingo	MisterE: Quiet, we are trying to hook Mircea up with a monster hotrod	[06:50]
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MisterE	that rod is for insertion...	[06:53]
MisterE	you sure you're doing it the right way?	[06:53]
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BingoBoingo	Insertion, where I dun care, he has more experience in this I supposed a dude who could put dumptrucks in ford escorts. He wanted dumptruck motors in a ThunerBird, and Imma trying to get the hillbilly's email.	[06:54]
MisterE	heh crazy	[06:55]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.599945 = 1.1999 BTC [+] {2}	[06:57]
gesell1	did anyone try to call MTgox today?	[06:57]
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Duffer1	i almost lawld but i didn't want to offend anyone who might have lost out :(	[07:02]
BingoBoingo	gesell1: They had no information of @MagicalTux's cup size if that is the info you wanted	[07:06]
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mircea_popescu	lol BingoBoingo is bored	[07:07]
gesell1	BingoBoingo: I'm just curious in general what the support phone actually is	[07:07]
mircea_popescu	gesell1 there was a pastebin earlier with everyone's phones	[07:07]
mircea_popescu	they lost the db, so. girlfriends, mothers et all.	[07:08]
gesell1	mircea_popescu: but there was a press release on mtgox with the support phone number	[07:08]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Incredibly, and just a bit too tipsy to hit publish on the sports betting for n00bs post even though I wrote most of it in chan	[07:08]
gesell1	its on mtgox.com still	[07:08]
gesell1	aat the very bottom	[07:08]
BingoBoingo	gesell1: The support line is a girl speaking Ingrish. Might as well go to latestrip.com where the Ingrish girls show tits	[07:08]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: cups size: as in '2 X, 1 cup' ?	[07:09]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Poor asians so mostly B's	[07:09]
jcpham	just because mtgox says you owned bitcoins it doesn't really mean you owned them	[07:09]
jcpham	not really	[07:09]
BingoBoingo	gesell1: As mircea_popescu pointed out though I am bored	[07:10]
BingoBoingo	So jcpham you realize talking gox drama here is just a huge circle jerk for anyone other than Luke-Jr	[07:10]
mircea_popescu	i am 12 and what is latestrip.com	[07:10]
jcpham	lolololol	[07:10]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Where I spent dollars I should have spent on BTC	[07:11]
BingoBoingo	Damn you spring 2010	[07:11]
cokea	#bitcointraders if you're bored BingoBoingo	[07:11]
asciilifeform	a strip, that tells you if you're.. late. like a litmus strip.	[07:11]
asciilifeform	if that wasn't obvious from name	[07:11]
mircea_popescu	so pregnant girls in the buff ?	[07:11]
BingoBoingo	Here's a Tartar http://www.latestrip.com/freechat/girl/TamaraMuslim	[07:12]
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BingoBoingo	But yeah, too many prego girls	[07:12]
BingoBoingo	Sauget wouldn't put them on stage	[07:12]
bloctoc	Nextcoin youtube videos really are adorable. http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/External_Videos	[07:13]
Multivac	Nextcoin does not compute.	[07:15]
BingoBoingo	Fuku Kasparov https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/440704422549942273	[07:15]
BingoBoingo	Kramnik beat your ass for a reason.	[07:15]
Multivac	from the Karpeles article comments: "Mark is a member of Mensa, well that says it all. I work with a guy who claims to be a Mensa member, he's the biggest jackass I have ever encountered. But if you want to know how smart he is, just ask he'll tell you about it, all day long."	[07:16]
BingoBoingo	And Anand... was prolly actually the best champion in a long time.	[07:16]
Multivac	Truth	[07:16]
mircea_popescu	why do people go to the mensa thing anyway	[07:16]
BingoBoingo	Multivac: Mensa is nothing, I qualified for that bullshit	[07:16]
mircea_popescu	i suppose it's actually a sort of bitcoin foundation, huh.	[07:16]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: phun phact: today, K is known in russia - not mainly as a chess player.	[07:16]
asciilifeform	see 'bob the bridge-builder.'	[07:17]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: I know, he flys that everywhere now.	[07:17]
BingoBoingo	Part of wy he is in exile	[07:17]
asciilifeform	M is actually a sex club	[07:17]
Multivac	I never met someone that said they were Mensa that wasn't degenerate.	[07:17]
asciilifeform	i have this on good authority, though never seen in person	[07:17]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ithought men want good looking women	[07:17]
mircea_popescu	rather than smart women	[07:17]
BingoBoingo	Multivac: I am a total degenerate, out on bail at this moment, I still think Mensa is too white trash	[07:18]
asciilifeform	once again, never saw it alive	[07:18]
Multivac	Bailed out for what though?	[07:18]
mircea_popescu	he got drunk one day...	[07:19]
BingoBoingo	Multivac: Disorderly conduct, Which I find a moral imperative	[07:19]
BingoBoingo	Religious liberty is at stake	[07:19]
Multivac	Did you flip over a car?	[07:19]
Multivac	Poop in a hamburger?	[07:19]
BingoBoingo	Multivac: Imma not that in shape, unless the car is a fiero	[07:19]
BingoBoingo	And it is all allegedly	[07:19]
mircea_popescu	anyway, that's all the excitement i can take in one day. take care all	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	don't break the bitcoin,	[07:20]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[11:09]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading	[11:09]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013	[11:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.00495352 = 0.6588 BTC [+] {2}	[11:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 141 @ 0.00495356 = 0.6985 BTC [+] {2}	[11:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 4,050.17291466 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 810 satoshi per share	[11:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 3.68215411 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 122 satoshi per share	[11:24]
mircea_popescu	soo... turns out this was best dividend in s.mpoe history.	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	428 satoshi on 29-09-12 and 506 satoshi 26-01-13 being the previous highs	[11:26]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07598485 = 0.5319 BTC [+] {2}	[11:33]
dub	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5493553#msg5493553	[11:34]
ozbot	Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.	[11:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 91 @ 0.00495354 = 0.4508 BTC [-]	[11:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41421 @ 0.00083883 = 34.7452 BTC [-] {3}	[11:44]
mircea_popescu	dub lol	[11:46]
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punkman	"KAM Analysts have come out and established the opening price for MZC at $1.00 USD as a opening price. "We felt this was a reasonable opening price with the Alt Market the way it is currently, Dogecoin is setting around $1.17 in some exchanges and MAXcoin is still right around $1.28."	[11:52]
punkman	http://www.kimitsuassetmanagement.com/	[11:52]
mircea_popescu	><	[11:52]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck is this.	[11:52]
mircea_popescu	another "altcoin" with a 349587598437598349534 "mkt cap" ?	[11:52]
punkman	it's auroracoin for indians	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	oh.	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	great IDEA	[11:53]
punkman	http://www.mazacoin.org/about.html	[11:53]
ozbot	MazaCoin - About	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	sometimes i wonder if the "entrepreneur" scum even knows what idea means.	[11:53]
punkman	"During the first phase of the MazaCoin pre-mine, the Traditional Lakota Nation as represented by the BTC Oyate Initiative will pre-mine 25 million MazaCoins as the starting point of a National Crypto-Currency Reserve. This reserve is critical as a symbol of national sovereignty, and vital for the future of MazaCoin. "	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	of wtf.	[11:54]
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mircea_popescu	we need more pianos to catch lots and lots of fingers in	[11:54]
mircea_popescu	i bet you some nigger* fuckwit somewhere thought "o hey, nobody can oppose this SCAM because it'd be raycest!!11"	[11:55]
mircea_popescu	*nigger in this context is a term of art. see http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/ for the definition.	[11:55]
punkman	yeah I know, been working on my own niggers.txt	[11:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00083813 = 12.991 BTC [-] {3}	[11:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.608 = 1.216 BTC [+]	[11:58]
punkman	waiting for more lulz from that altcoin marketcap bet	[11:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22315 @ 0.00083767 = 18.6926 BTC [-] {2}	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	sigh.	[12:00]
wao-ender	today topic, scamcoins?	[12:01]
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mircea_popescu	wao-ender no it's just this bet.	[12:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]	[12:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00559998 = 0.56 BTC [+] {3}	[12:09]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9365 @ 0.00083687 = 7.8373 BTC [-] {2}	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	by the way : http://trilema.com/2013/the-conference-second-edition/	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	the cuttoff for regs for the april conference is march 15th. there won't be late regs or anything.	[12:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17385 @ 0.00083667 = 14.5455 BTC [-]	[12:14]
dub	I'll be in cambodia	[12:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.04270871 = 0.2563 BTC [-] {5}	[12:15]
jurov	;;bc,stats	[12:21]
gribble	Current Blocks: 288860 \| Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 \| Next Difficulty In: 1443 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes, and 23 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 3883050502.07 \| Estimated Percent Change: 1.76445	[12:21]
mircea_popescu	not a bad place to be	[12:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.04241428 = 0.5938 BTC [-] {4}	[12:23]
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mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7iypi49ZW1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg	[12:29]
mircea_popescu	(why did the chick cross the road ?)	[12:29]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00471013 = 0.1036 BTC [-]	[12:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00083849 = 19.998 BTC [+]	[12:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34600 @ 0.00083655 = 28.9446 BTC [-] {3}	[12:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25977 @ 0.00083953 = 21.8085 BTC [+] {2}	[13:05]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00470895 = 0.7063 BTC [-] {8}	[13:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 627 @ 0.00463136 = 2.9039 BTC [-] {7}	[13:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1298 @ 0.0001866 = 0.2422 BTC [+] {6}	[13:28]
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mircea_popescu	that bitcoin scam foundation thread is really delivering the lels.	[13:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC	[13:33]
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wao-ender	v0v http://www.coindesk.com/icelands-auroracoin-passes-litecoin-becomes-third-largest-altcoin-market-cap/	[13:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 360 @ 0.0055 = 1.98 BTC	[13:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00479999 = 0.48 BTC [+]	[13:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00559998 = 0.1456 BTC [+] {2}	[13:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 188 @ 0.00567496 = 1.0669 BTC [+] {3}	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	we're in the middle of a debate as to how scammy this is.	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499595.0	[13:49]
ozbot	Satoshi should give away a good chunk of the 1.000.000 btc he has	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	teh forum hath spoken	[13:49]
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chetty	there should be an award for the dumbest ideas	[13:57]
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mircea_popescu	there is.	[13:58]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6087 = 1.2174 BTC [+] {2}	[14:05]
jurov	darwin award doesn't quite apply to internet	[14:10]
KRS-One	Any rumor that mastercoin is going to save goxcoin	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	i heard auroracoin is going to disrupt rainbows.	[14:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55007 @ 0.00083292 = 45.8164 BTC [-] {2}	[14:16]
KRS-One	Its about time rainbows were disrupted.	[14:16]
KRS-One	Elusive bastards.	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	ikr ? now they're going to be square	[14:17]
KRS-One	wut! lel	[14:17]
KRS-One	First sinewave, now digital rainbows. Next thing you know cats will sleep with doges.	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	and have retarded otter children	[14:18]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]	[14:22]
jurov	that's sloth, no?	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	lol i guess so	[14:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6099 = 6.099 BTC [+] {2}	[14:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 826 @ 0.0008375 = 0.6918 BTC [+]	[14:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	The thing is, your brain has to be full of prions to think that this "Punked By Obama Supporter" video shows Fox being punked, either that or you're in first grade where the following exchange is considered an awesome practical joke: "I told you my name's Bill, but it's not, it's Will! All this time you thought it was Bill! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" I'd warn that kid he's going to get himself beat up at recess if I wa	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	sn't helping collect the dirt bombs.	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	Imagine you are in the target demo for Fox & Friends (i.e. your ex-husband drives an F150 and your daughter's Nokia is bedazzled), would you feel punked? What would you see in the video? You'd see a wise ass, a self-aggrandizing cynic, a douchebag. So if he's pro-Obama, then the point is obvious: pro-Obama people are idiots. Thanks, Max, you helped the cause.	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	Imagine Gretchen Carlson doing what she should have done if she was smart: kept the interview going longer. "Oh, I'm sorry, Max, we must all be dummies here at Fox because when you told us you were pro-Romney we... just believed it. We do that with the Bible and pre-war intelligence, too, gosh golly. Well, you have a Columbia education and I'm giving you a national platform, why don't you tell us why we're all stupi	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	d here for supporting Romney? Why should we want Obama for a second term? Please, no soundbites you got from twitter." As the kid's head melts like he was staring into the Ark of the Covenant we'd see clearly that he isn't an Obama supporter at all. He may be voting for Obama, I have no idea, but he wasn't there for Obama, he was there for himself under the pretense antagonizing Fox, which is why his main argument	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	was "s'up." Advice for aspiring comics like Max: if you get to go on TV, you should probably prepare some material.	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	holy shit this guy's good.	[14:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04325 = 0.173 BTC [+] {2}	[14:40]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00083169 = 31.9369 BTC [-] {2}	[14:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.042625 = 0.1705 BTC [-] {2}	[14:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 300 @ 0.0055 = 1.65 BTC	[14:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.60001625 = 2.4001 BTC [-] {3}	[14:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00083628 = 12.8787 BTC [+]	[14:47]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]	[14:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 104 @ 0.00567497 = 0.5902 BTC [+]	[14:50]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1983 @ 0.00083083 = 1.6475 BTC [-]	[14:56]
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moiety	mew	[14:57]
moiety	BingoBoingo, you around?	[14:57]
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mircea_popescu	hey there moiety	[14:58]
moiety	mircea_popescu: are you	[14:58]
moiety	lol	[14:58]
moiety	yes hi how are you?	[14:59]
moiety	look at this http://imgur.com/gallery/X3IbG it's immense	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	you made that ?!	[15:00]
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chetty	wow, I want one	[15:00]
asciilifeform	woah	[15:00]
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moiety	i truly wish i made that mircea_popescu	[15:03]
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moiety	how amazing is it	[15:03]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[15:03]
moiety	lol ^	[15:03]
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moiety	i wonder who did make it and i wish there were better pictures of the sides	[15:04]
moiety	the set i made, i used half kinder eggs with beer cap crowns for queens lol	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:05]
moiety	they had googly eyes too... made the game	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	neat btc product tho, find them and hussle them.	[15:05]
moiety	i think that's the only chess set you can commit a murder with	[15:06]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00567498 = 0.2837 BTC [+]	[15:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 300 @ 0.0055 = 1.65 BTC {2}	[15:09]
moiety	omg its only $295	[15:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 402 @ 0.00567498 = 2.2813 BTC [+] {3}	[15:10]
moiety	lies 910CAD http://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/OldeWorldCC?ref=l2-shopheader-name	[15:11]
moiety	bizarre "only ships within united states" why is it in CAD then	[15:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 40 @ 0.00457976 = 0.1832 BTC [-]	[15:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17735 @ 0.00083593 = 14.8252 BTC [+] {2}	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	"A Kremlin aide was quoted on Tuesday as saying that if the United States were to impose sanctions on Russia over Ukraine, Moscow might be forced to drop the dollar as a reserve currency and refuse to pay off any loans to US banks."	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	now that'd be a riot.	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	suddenly the eu is forced to ALSO drop the dollar because if you can't buy gas from the gazprom with it then what good is it ?	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	putin could just get done with it and declare obama must now spend a week naked in chains pulling the plow under the whip somewhere in rural ukraine.	[15:24]
asciilifeform	plow? bah. uprooted tree stump. what pre-iron-age slavs plowed with.	[15:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44737 @ 0.00083635 = 37.4158 BTC [+] {3}	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	but black slavery is a modern not pre-iron-age phenomena	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	let us preserve historic accuracy.	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	anyway, s/whip/knuth	[15:28]
chetty	5. The fax machine was invented the same year as the Oregon trail migration.	[15:28]
asciilifeform	chetty: early faxes required user to trace over the picture	[15:30]
asciilifeform	by hand	[15:30]
asciilifeform	not quite what modern people have in mind when they think 'fax'	[15:30]
deadweasel	you have died from from plague. your party died in a river crossing.	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform now we know how the office xeros romp got started.	[15:32]
asciilifeform	'you have died of death'	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	o	[15:32]
asciilifeform	(i distinctly recall that being in there)	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	you know i never get you people. i always packed an arsenal of bullets, hunted, got super rich	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	i usually made 3-4x my money by the time i was in oregon	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	http://newswatch.us/28-year-old-ceo-of-bitcoin-exchange-dead-after-possible-suicide/#sthash.17rKP4om.dpuf	[15:34]
ozbot	28 Year Old CEO Of Bitcoin Exchange Dead After Possible Suicide \| NEWSWATCH	[15:34]
asciilifeform	nailgun?	[15:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 95 @ 0.0055 = 0.5225 BTC	[15:35]
mircea_popescu	karpuccinos	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	(twist : Autumn Radtke was a chick)	[15:38]
asciilifeform	probably asked to 'turn karp' and refused.	[15:38]
punkman	Poloniex hacked, but hackers only took out BTC, didn't care for the altcoins	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	what, they left all the auracoins behind ?	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	BUT IT HAS A MARKET CAP! with a fluffball and all.	[15:41]
asciilifeform	house burgled, thieves took tv but not the turds in the cat's sandbox...	[15:41]
punkman	"The major problem here is that the auditing and security features were not explicitly looking for negative balances."	[15:42]
punkman	"Because there is not enough BTC to cover everyone's balances, all balances will temporarily be deducted by 12.3%."	[15:42]
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asciilifeform	can't wait for the exchange that keeps balances as 'unsigned int' and underflows into $MAXINT - epsilon when it gets cleaned out.	[15:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 113 @ 0.00574805 = 0.6495 BTC [+] {5}	[15:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 505 @ 0.00574406 = 2.9008 BTC [-] {2}	[15:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 988 @ 0.00574 = 5.6711 BTC [-]	[15:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699997 = 0.154 BTC [+]	[15:46]
Multivac	haha, derps sell their LTCs for AURs, causing LTC to fal from 25 to 21, then BTCChina lists LTC and it goes to 27	[15:46]
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ThickAsThieves	maybe itll go back to 40	[15:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 340 @ 0.0049463 = 1.6817 BTC [+] {6}	[15:52]
wao-ender	http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/27/world/europe/ukraine-divisions-crimea.html	[15:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00083182 = 8.9837 BTC [-]	[15:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00575 = 0.575 BTC [+]	[15:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00490999 = 0.1227 BTC [-]	[15:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00575 = 0.2875 BTC [+]	[15:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00574999 = 0.1495 BTC [-] {2}	[15:58]
mircea_popescu	http://imgur.com/Jr4uWC2	[16:00]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	someone should dump that on twitter.	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	i mean reddit.	[16:00]
ThickAsThieves	get a MPOE-RedditPR	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/03/russia-attacked-largest-oil-refinery-in-europe-is-on-fire-in-huge-blaze-2442038.html	[16:01]
ozbot	Russia Attacked? Largest Oil Refinery In Europe Is On Fire In Huge Blaze \| Chemtrails	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	sooo... is this a fake ?	[16:01]
asciilifeform	http://englishrussia.com/2014/03/03/largest-oil-refinery-in-europe-is-on-fire	[16:02]
ozbot	Largest Oil Refinery in Europe is on Fire \| English Russia	[16:02]
mircea_popescu	http://www.euronews.com/2014/01/10/german-oil-refinery-fire-and-explosion/	[16:02]
ozbot	German oil refinery fire and explosion \| euronews, world news	[16:02]
mircea_popescu	apparently it's shell's rheinland	[16:03]
asciilifeform	no snow in that one.	[16:04]
mircea_popescu	hm	[16:04]
ThickAsThieves	:/	[16:04]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42285 @ 0.00083931 = 35.4902 BTC [+] {3}	[16:07]
diametric	Why is in a category called 'chemtrails'	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	probably because the chemtrails did it ?	[16:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0434999 = 0.1305 BTC [+]	[16:17]
moiety	oh jeez	[16:17]
moiety	i don't like shell, but that's awful	[16:18]
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ThickAsThieves	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/04/smut_filter_adviser_to_uk_pm_investigated_for_viewing_child_smut/	[16:23]
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ThickAsThieves	http://blockchain.com/	[16:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00083505 = 24.634 BTC [-]	[16:27]
Rulother	ooo	[16:27]
ThickAsThieves	Transparent exchange maybe?	[16:27]
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Rulother	Well we're expecting "big news" from them soon	[16:28]
ozbot	Blockchain.com - Bitcoin Wallet.	[16:29]
nubbins`	judging by the picture of an iphone	[16:31]
nubbins`	i'd say the big news is a functional html5 web wallet	[16:31]
nubbins`	to replace the ios app that got yanked	[16:31]
ThickAsThieves	meh	[16:32]
nubbins`	meh for some, a boon for others	[16:32]
asciilifeform	exploit bounty for yet others.	[16:32]
nubbins`	+1 :D	[16:36]
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ThickAsThieves	KateCraig: "However, the bigger reason for the delay is that I've been trying to track down an accounting error. My spreadsheet says we should have much more in the h/w reinvestment fund than we actually have in the bank. I believe I've traced the issue to how depreciation was being calculated."	[16:39]
asciilifeform	'On March 2nd 2014 Flexcoin was attacked and robbed of all coins in the hot wallet. The attacker made off with 896 BTC...' (http://flexcoin.com)	[16:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699997 = 0.154 BTC [+] {2}	[16:41]
asciilifeform	'As Flexcoin does not have the resources, assets, or otherwise to come back from this loss, we are closing our doors immediately.'	[16:42]
nubbins`	well that's convenient	[16:49]
Apocalyptic	indeed	[16:49]
Apocalyptic	yet another self-hack	[16:49]
nubbins`	"Flexcoin, Inc is located in the Alberta, Canada"	[16:50]
nubbins`	ah, the Alberta	[16:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00083505 = 8.5175 BTC [-]	[16:50]
azi`	why would anyone use a service described as "bitcoin bank"?	[16:51]
nubbins`	heh	[16:51]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bitcoin-bank-flexcoin-shuts-down-after-600-000-theft-1.2559018	[16:51]
ozbot	Bitcoin bank Flexcoin shuts down after $600,000 theft - Business - CBC News	[16:51]
deadweasel	nice to have a shake-out now and again.	[16:51]
nubbins`	https://twitter.com/flexcoin	[16:52]
ozbot	flexcoin (flexcoin) on Twitter	[16:52]
nubbins`	heh	[16:52]
nubbins`	feb 25: "We hold zero coins in other companies, exchanges etc. While the MtGox closure is unfortunate, we at Flexcoin have not lost anything."	[16:52]
nubbins`	march 4: "Flexcoin will be shutting its doors."	[16:52]
azi`	lol	[16:52]
ThickAsThieves	does LAMP have a way to autclose db connections (of a certain age) across all hosted sites	[16:52]
ThickAsThieves	or must it be done in each site script	[16:52]
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diametric	ThickAsThieves: its been a while since I've done any PHP code, but all connections get closed if you open them with mysql_connect vs. pconnect	[17:00]
diametric	closed at the end of the session that is	[17:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33508 @ 0.00083267 = 27.9011 BTC [-] {2}	[17:03]
ThickAsThieves	thx	[17:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00083131 = 22.1128 BTC [-] {2}	[17:07]
punkman	"Make music with the world. "The Cypherfunks" is a decentralized band & cryptocurrency. A new way to make music in the 21st century! The cryptocurrency, enables the new music collective."	[17:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04299999 = 0.129 BTC [-]	[17:10]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.043 = 0.172 BTC [+]	[17:13]
ThickAsThieves	to steal	[17:13]
punkman	"Or, in other words, if Satoshi Nakamoto is the Genius Father of Cryptocurrency as an advancement in cryptotechnology, then Thomas Jackson is its Genius Uncle as an advancement in cryptotechnology in world economics."	[17:17]
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asciilifeform	http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=22764360	[17:20]
ozbot	$10M Calif. Gold Coin Hoard Found in Yard May Have Been Stolen From Mint - ABC News	[17:20]
asciilifeform	tldr: if you find gold, shut up, melt it down	[17:20]
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ThickAsThieves	Nic Cary will be on bloomberg tv in 35m	[17:26]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/	[17:26]
ozbot	Bloomberg TV: Business Live TV - Bloomberg	[17:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.609 BTC [+]	[17:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699996 = 0.154 BTC [-]	[17:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52950 @ 0.0008303 = 43.9644 BTC [-] {3}	[17:32]
moiety	aww asciilifeform is that the couple who were out walking and found the gold?	[17:32]
asciilifeform	moiety: yeah, them	[17:34]
asciilifeform	moiety: linked piece mentions that it might be confiscated.	[17:34]
moiety	so if they prove its the 1900 heist money, they won't get anything?	[17:34]
asciilifeform	that was the claim, yes	[17:35]
moiety	plot twist : there weren't only five cans (i hope)	[17:35]
moiety	i'd be too frightened to open the cans for fear of beasties	[17:36]
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ThickAsThieves	mircea_popescu pm	[17:38]
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nubbins`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=218435.msg5506076#msg5506076	[17:41]
ozbot	Official CaVirtex.com Thread	[17:41]
nubbins`	now that's an interesting way to respond	[17:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.043 = 0.559 BTC [+]	[17:41]
nubbins`	*My response*	[17:42]
nubbins`	quoting is hard etc	[17:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00489979 = 0.2499 BTC [+] {2}	[17:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.043 = 0.86 BTC [+]	[17:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 62 @ 0.043 = 2.666 BTC [+]	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves lol katecraig is still delayed ?	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	wasn't it xmas ?	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	aww flexcoin eh ? which was this one ? i forget.	[17:56]
Apocalyptic	the first bitcoin bank	[17:58]
Apocalyptic	it's been around for a while afaik	[17:58]
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mircea_popescu	pretty sure it's not the first thing posing as a bank no	[17:59]
nubbins`	hadnt heard of it before today	[18:00]
Apocalyptic	should have included quotes I guess	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	larger amounts of airqutes pls	[18:00]
nubbins`	the "first" bitcoin "bank"	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	t"he" etc	[18:01]
nubbins`	"theft"	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	AIRQUOTE EVERYTHING	[18:01]
Apocalyptic	heh	[18:01]
nubbins`	"flexcoin" "will be" "shutting" its "doors"	[18:01]
ThickAsThieves	hehe obama is announcing new budget from an elementary school	[18:01]
nubbins`	did someone whisper it in his ear while he was reading a story?	[18:02]
nubbins`	followed by a look of utter confusion and a few more paragraphs of story-time?	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	"its"	[18:03]
nubbins`	hey those aren't your doors!	[18:03]
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nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/report-slum-landlords-dennis-o-keefe-says-1.2558938	[18:04]
ozbot	Report slum landlords, Dennis O'Keefe says - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News	[18:04]
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nubbins`	"O'Keefe said the city will act quickly on complaints once they're received, but if a landlord refuses to allow an inspector into the unit, the city then has to go to court. If an order to clean up a property is then ignored, they would have to go to court again."	[18:04]
nubbins`	report slum landlords, wait two years for solution	[18:05]
nubbins`	meantime, get kicked out of your house	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	that's you ?!	[18:05]
nubbins`	nah	[18:05]
nubbins`	i'm not an o'keefe	[18:05]
nubbins`	nor a dennis, for that matter	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	is keefe like the most common canadian name ?	[18:05]
Mats_cd03	any bets on when the next exchange with >1000btc gets robbed	[18:05]
nubbins`	relatively uncommon	[18:05]
nubbins`	lots of o'keefes	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	aha i c	[18:05]
nubbins`	3 generations back, we were o'keeffe but dropped an o and an f	[18:06]
Duffer1	you mean "robbed" Mats? :P	[18:06]
nubbins`	"exchange"	[18:06]
Duffer1	hehe	[18:06]
nubbins`	"with", even	[18:06]
Mats_cd03	is there a sizable irish pop in cn	[18:06]
Mats_cd03	ca*	[18:06]
Apocalyptic	sounds about right	[18:06]
nubbins`	most of newfoundland has irish heritage	[18:06]
nubbins`	of some sort	[18:07]
nubbins`	the rest of canada, not so much	[18:07]
nubbins`	but it is a nation of immigrants, so y'know. pockets everywhere	[18:07]
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nubbins`	TBF my ancestors came from england, nor ireland.	[18:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00083003 = 10.5414 BTC [-] {3}	[18:09]
nubbins`	bbl picking up rent, etc	[18:10]
artifexd	I'm looking to buy some ATC. x-bt and openex orderbooks are too thin. Anybody selling?	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	artifexd maybe BingoBoingo	[18:11]
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artifexd	;;later tell BingoBoingo I'm trying to buy some ATC. Are you trying to sell?	[18:13]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00574998 = 0.575 BTC [+] {2}	[18:14]
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ThickAsThieves	blockchain on bloomberg momentarily	[18:15]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/	[18:15]
ozbot	Bloomberg TV: Business Live TV - Bloomberg	[18:15]
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ThickAsThieves	facebook is gonna buy drones to provide internet to africa	[18:16]
ThickAsThieves	sell!	[18:16]
moiety	is mark spending his xmas money or something lately?	[18:17]
ThickAsThieves	blockchain.info bought clarkmoody	[18:17]
ThickAsThieves	integrating with zeroblock	[18:17]
moiety	o.o	[18:17]
ThickAsThieves	they bought rtbtc	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	the bitcoin founation policy of decentralisation ?	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	dun dun dun	[18:18]
ThickAsThieves	so they are opening a trading platform	[18:19]
arij	really? when did they buy cm/rtbtc?	[18:19]
Duffer1	acquire all the things	[18:19]
ThickAsThieves	this week arij	[18:19]
Apocalyptic	so they are opening a trading platform // wait, rtbtc was not just charts ?	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	"Tommie Rice Esti castigator, o PETRECERE de sfarsit de SAPTAMA..."	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	fucktarded romanian spammers. buy spam software, replace the subject/body copy,	[18:19]
arij	rtbtc lets you trade at gox/stamp using the API	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	use english names.	[18:19]
Duffer1	rtbtc is a trade platform	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	it totally makes sense some random tommie rice is fluent in romanian	[18:19]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: twist. google's mail has built-in translation. so, spammers no longer need to study languages.	[18:20]
*	arij wonders what will happen to the bitvps link on clarkmoody	[18:20]
ThickAsThieves	it'll get a lot of clicks today	[18:21]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform nah, this is actually correct romanian. it's nigh on impossible for gt to get 8 words straight.	[18:21]
ThickAsThieves	"our company will never touch fiat" cary says	[18:21]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: no, what i meant was, the receiving end	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves "like we learned from mp" cary doesn't say	[18:22]
asciilifeform	if google's mail, will translate to luser's language.	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	cause he forgot that part.	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	one day i'll understand why this is so hard.	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yeah, but, badly.	[18:22]
ThickAsThieves	ok zeroblock isnt an independent exchange, just an interfacing platform	[18:23]
asciilifeform	a good portion of english-language spam shows signs of being produced in exactly this way.	[18:23]
ThickAsThieves	for $20/m	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	i believe it.	[18:23]
wao-ender	good move bch.	[18:24]
wao-ender	these trading platform should rise	[18:24]
ThickAsThieves	i love how now that gox is dead, we don't get 25% price moves after every news tidbit	[18:25]
asciilifeform	ThickAsThieves: a team of chumpatronic engineers is working around the clock to fix this.	[18:26]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[18:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00082991 = 10.4569 BTC [-]	[18:26]
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wao-ender	soon they move to another X	[18:26]
asciilifeform	'a holy place never remains empty' (rus. proverb)	[18:26]
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asciilifeform	expect a 'MtFox' or the like, using mouth and arse- prints for N-factor authentication and 'AML' government id both	[18:27]
asciilifeform	or something like that.	[18:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00485001 = 0.2425 BTC [-]	[18:28]
asciilifeform	the only sure bet is that there will be some sweet placebo to reassure the chumps that 'this time, It's Different !11! (TM)'	[18:28]
ThickAsThieves	reddit is very disappointed in Cary	[18:30]
ThickAsThieves	it is kinda non-news	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform has it lol.	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	mp says gox is trading with itself, ppl are like oooooookay.	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	then gox goes away and price suddenly is quite stable.	[18:31]
ThickAsThieves	also they shouldve at least rebranded the acquisition site fully	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	so mp goes oooookay.	[18:31]
ThickAsThieves	they just slapped a squished logo on it	[18:32]
ThickAsThieves	tsk tsk brandbuilding!	[18:32]
ThickAsThieves	well gox is probably also what got us to $300+	[18:33]
ThickAsThieves	fwiw	[18:33]
ThickAsThieves	blockchain also shoulda removed this frozen gox chart from clarkmoody lol	[18:34]
ThickAsThieves	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/	[18:34]
ozbot	Bitcoin Data Platform \| RTBTC	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	what's the rush.	[18:34]
ThickAsThieves	well they just said "Hey look at me!"	[18:34]
ThickAsThieves	typiclaly a good time to comb your hair	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	http://imgur.com/Jr4uWC2 << check that shit out, suddenly "no data available/0 views"	[18:35]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	i didn't know imgur deleted stats ?	[18:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05110001 = 0.3066 BTC [+] {3}	[18:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00485772 = 0.1069 BTC [+] {2}	[18:35]
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ThickAsThieves	hmm that is odd	[18:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00485 = 0.1067 BTC [-] {3}	[18:36]
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deadweasel	it's not recording stats anymore either	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	CONSPIRACI	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	twist : is imgur running fractional reserve stats ?	[18:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0057498 = 0.575 BTC [-] {2}	[18:41]
deadweasel	they had to use yoru stats to cover the justin beiber run on imgur	[18:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16623 @ 0.00082995 = 13.7963 BTC [+] {2}	[18:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00574999 = 0.4255 BTC [+]	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	a statschain divided upon itself can not stand!	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	friends! bitcoiners! citizens! lend me your views!	[18:43]
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Duffer1	I only have likes, do you accept those?	[18:50]
artifexd	lol	[18:50]
Duffer1	actually i think i have some spare upvotes	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker likes/views	[18:50]
gribble	(ticker [--bid\|--ask\|--last\|--high\|--low\|--avg\|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market \|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)	[18:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.38356683 BTC to 3`617 shares, 65899 satoshi per share	[18:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7177 @ 0.00082986 = 5.9559 BTC [-]	[19:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14623 @ 0.00083032 = 12.1418 BTC [+]	[19:01]
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mircea_popescu	in today's lol : trilema referrer ronpaulforums.com comes slightly ahead of somethingawful.com	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	not by much and towards the bottom of the pile, but anyway	[19:06]
asciilifeform	what's in the top of the pile?	[19:06]
Duffer1	^	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	direct, various rss and twitter feeds	[19:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699997 = 0.154 BTC [+] {2}	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	slashdot	[19:07]
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mircea_popescu	reddit (0.o)	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	tardstalk	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	litecointalk	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	buncha chinese and russian stuff	[19:07]
asciilifeform	phun phact. first time i ever heard of reddit, i parsed the name as 'Red [i.e. communist] Edit [as in editorial]'	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	lots of ancient links	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	(my article about how to suck cock is still 3rd most read, won't yield that beast)	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you were so woefully, drastically and deplorably off the mark with that	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	except wait...	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	no you weren't.	[19:09]
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asciilifeform	i'm an 'LL(1)' parser.	[19:10]
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mircea_popescu	i have a steak at stake and it's fucking sticking it to me	[19:10]
asciilifeform	i'd rather eat steak than stake.	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	im stoked :D	[19:12]
asciilifeform	'stokes' is a joke, but green's is mean'	[19:12]
asciilifeform	(memory from a maths class)	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	i suppose we'll have to have rhymes day namean ?	[19:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00574999 = 0.69 BTC [+]	[19:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00082934 = 6.7591 BTC [-]	[19:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 676 @ 0.00462569 = 3.127 BTC [-] {8}	[19:17]
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moiety	http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/04/apple-carplay-ferrari-ff-hands-on/ lol resistive touch screen	[19:24]
ozbot	Hands-on with Apple's CarPlay: when Siri met Ferrari (video)	[19:25]
moiety	so ugly!	[19:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.00082934 = 31.4735 BTC [-]	[19:25]
wao-ender	looks resistive	[19:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00083029 = 1.37 BTC [+]	[19:28]
moiety	looks resistable	[19:28]
wao-ender	capacitivy wouldnt has that flick buttons	[19:32]
Mats_cd03	looks like a good competitor to the stuff in tesla's cars	[19:32]
wao-ender	but volvo have capacitve one carplay, well	[19:32]
asciilifeform	who the hell wants a touch screen in a car	[19:33]
Mats_cd03	i do	[19:33]
asciilifeform	knob, you can twist without looking	[19:33]
Mats_cd03	im not a scrub that needs haptic feedback	[19:33]
Mats_cd03	its my opinion that good software solves that problem anyway	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i don't think the people targetted actually drive.	[19:35]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: !?	[19:35]
asciilifeform	screen is meant for passenger?	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	nah	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	screen is meant for douche who can't afford a car at all	[19:35]
Mats_cd03	why cant you use a touch screen with a voice button mounted on teh wheel	[19:36]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: how is this supposed to work? am i just thick?	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	"look how cool and from the future we are"	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	ferrari doesn't sell cars by convincing anyone to buy one	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	ferrari sells cars by convincing poor lithe 20something chicks to blow anyone in a ferrari	[19:36]
asciilifeform	so this is something like the ads on the washington d.c. metro for fighter jets and destroyers?	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	mutatis mutandis	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	or should i say, mutatits mutandine	[19:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.0222 = 0.111 BTC [+]	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	(this, incidentally, is also why all the limited edition crap)	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/presidential-budget-2015/?	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	check out all those healthcare savings already.	[19:46]
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mircea_popescu	#obamawasright	[19:46]
ozbot	Breaking down spending in Obama's budget proposal - The Washington Post	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	tyl : veteran affairs cost as much as education or health care. who knew there's a cost to all that jingoism.	[19:46]
asciilifeform	in u.s., actual education (public schools, etc) is funded on state level	[19:47]
asciilifeform	federal 'dept. of ed' is something quite else	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	point.	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	holden got hit with a -40%	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	"us no longer needs justice dept" ?	[19:49]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the 'useful' part of the latter is being merged into the 'ministry of love' (DHS)	[19:50]
asciilifeform	(that being the armed stormtroopers)	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	o gee! just like the soviets.	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	epa got slashed. who knew	[19:51]
asciilifeform	it lives on fines	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	i guess if you have no economy you can save on environmnetalism	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	uh, they don't get to make fines part of their own budget do they ?	[19:51]
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asciilifeform	they do.	[19:52]
mircea_popescu	whop the fuck came up with that stupid idea.	[19:52]
asciilifeform	just like local police depts	[19:52]
mircea_popescu	jaysus.	[19:52]
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asciilifeform	(many u.s. police depts are funded largely by asset seizure - without anyone needing to be convicted of a crime)	[19:53]
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mircea_popescu	that i know	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	even wrote about it	[19:55]
jborkl	as I understand it just the State of Texas lew enforcment takes in a billion a year mainly on weed	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	to me it registers as the #1 item on the list of why the us can't be4 taken seriously as a civilised state.	[19:55]
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deadweasel	civilization via wikipedia: Civilization or civilisation (in British English) generally refers to state polities which combine these basic institutions, having one or more of each: a ceremonial centre (a formal gathering place for social and cultural activities), a system of writing, and a city.	[20:06]
deadweasel	not a definition I would have expected.	[20:06]
deadweasel	so in the most useless sense, we are civlised.	[20:06]
deadweasel	now how do we actually define civilisation?	[20:07]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21640 @ 0.00082816 = 17.9214 BTC [-] {2}	[20:09]
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mircea_popescu	deadweasel civilisation is the totality of material productions of an identified primate group.	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	as contrasted with culture, which is the totality of ideal productions of an ~.	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	together culture and civilisation describe privileged wife,	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	as opposed to bare life (ie, cattle).	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	s/wife/life	[20:27]
nubbins`	check your privilege :D	[20:27]
nubbins`	ba-dum-tss	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	quite typical for libertards to get stuck blaming the curb.	[20:27]
deadweasel	i prefer this definition. is somewhat more meaningful	[20:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0896001 = 0.1792 BTC [-]	[20:28]
Mats_cd03	!ticker s.mpoe	[20:28]
assbot	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.	[20:28]
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nubbins`	My name is Clark Moody, and this is my website. First of all, I love Jesus, and I want you to know him. He has changed my life forever, and His love has the power to change you.	[20:29]
benkay	is that kind of attitude an instant disqualifier for anyone elese?	[20:30]
nubbins`	¬_¬	[20:30]
nubbins`	yes	[20:31]
benkay	!t m s.mpoe	[20:31]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00082742 / 0.00084681 / 0.00086433 (1685008 shares, 1,426.89 BTC), 7D: 0.000745 / 0.00085725 / 0.00088723 (8472227 shares, 7,262.89 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00087082 / 0.00093912 (29382299 shares, 25,586.83 BTC)	[20:31]
benkay	Mats_cd03: ^^	[20:31]
nubbins`	i only finished reading the sentence because my peripheral vision picked it up	[20:31]
Mats_cd03	!t s.mpoe	[20:31]
assbot	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.	[20:31]
Mats_cd03	!t m s.mpoe	[20:31]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00082742 / 0.00084681 / 0.00086433 (1685008 shares, 1,426.89 BTC), 7D: 0.000745 / 0.00085725 / 0.00088723 (8472227 shares, 7,262.89 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00087082 / 0.00093912 (29382299 shares, 25,586.83 BTC)	[20:31]
Mats_cd03	wut	[20:31]
moiety	yes benkay, so much yes	[20:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC	[20:33]
benkay	hullo moiety	[20:34]
benkay	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:158cca9962694cd90af05df37425fc2724c92c39cbcaa5b2965f8160	[20:35]
benkay		[20:35]
gribble	You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile in a parking lot, http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6681rcJVh1qk6jqko1_500.jpg	[20:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 189 @ 0.004615 = 0.8722 BTC [-] {3}	[20:35]
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benkay	i'm uninterested unless they're yours, mircea_popescu	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	my whats	[20:37]
nubbins`	flaps	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	no homo ?	[20:37]
benkay	tits	[20:37]
nubbins`	it's all a spectrum man, don't fight it	[20:38]
benkay	tits in a parking lot are cool, don't get me wrong	[20:38]
asciilifeform	for newswank aficionados, mr. o update his post (http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/03/reichstag-fire-in-kiev.html) with summary of today's.	[20:38]
benkay	but i seen plenty of that nao	[20:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.0046 = 0.2392 BTC [-] {4}	[20:38]
benkay	mircea_popescu's tits, though, that's an entirely different story.	[20:38]
moiety	mircea_popescu: you have a knack for finding naked girls outside	[20:38]
mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m79qts6XbI1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg < sure :D	[20:39]
moiety	lol at least these ones get shoes	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	moiety some even get a purse.	[20:39]
BingoBoingo	artifexd: ATM I would not be selling ATC at the current market prices	[20:40]
moiety	lolol	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	"Also, something of a consensus among military experts has emerged: Ukraine's army can't fight."	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	derp.	[20:40]
moiety	BingoBoingo: there you are i tried to twitter at you	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	once a state makes the comitment of calling a general mobilisaiton and its ignored,	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	that state is finished.	[20:41]
asciilifeform	'they had a war and nobody came'	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	sort-of like calling a no confidence vote and not getting any yes.	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	gotta advertise it on social media better next time.	[20:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.0008303 = 25.2411 BTC [+] {2}	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	and incidentally : this is quite instructive for the attentive watcher. with the exception of china and some other asian majors, NOBODY is capable of war.	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	i don't give a shit that the us could deploy fifty or fifty thousand specially trained idiots.	[20:42]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Ah, cool link	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	if it comes to war and there's a general mobilisation, the us couldn't gather even ukraine's 1%	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	the entirety of the combatant populace would be "can they just rape us instead ? we'll fuck for peace"	[20:42]
asciilifeform	http://educate-yourself.org/cn/draftindex.shtml	[20:43]
ozbot	The Military Draft	[20:43]
asciilifeform	haha apparently i'm still good for cannonfodder	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	anyway. the us is in this position where it has to learn to play second fiddle/cocksucker to the actual powers that be	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	and get damned good at it and fucking love it.	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	ideally by last week.	[20:44]
asciilifeform	'... If you have a 'specialty' field such as... a degree in computer science... you could be 'drafted'..'	[20:44]
asciilifeform	(presumably, to install winblows on the platoon laptop, so grunts can play Quake.)	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	ya that'll do a lot of good.	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	fun fact : thai underage prostitutes also value those among them that can fix smartphones.	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	"Now I know better. The government is in the hands of satanic, globalist traitors who are following a script to destroy America and its people"	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	jesus all the anger.	[20:46]
asciilifeform	in the east, people do indeed fix phones!	[20:46]
asciilifeform	when i bought a digital hot air machine circa '07, it came with a whole sausage of power plugs for various phones of the period	[20:46]
asciilifeform	(chinese)	[20:46]
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mircea_popescu	hot air machine = tv ?	[20:47]
deadweasel	nubbins, re: clark moody/jesusIsLord, yes, instant disqualifier	[20:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04261333 = 0.1278 BTC [-] {3}	[20:47]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: nope. http://sra-solder.com/shopimages/products/normal/aoyue768.jpg	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	o the actual thing	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	deadpanning my comedee	[20:48]
asciilifeform	right. literal hot air	[20:48]
asciilifeform	the most chinese possible. as in, bouncing ball for air pressure gauge.	[20:49]
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asciilifeform	essential household tool	[20:49]
asciilifeform	even if you don't solder	[20:50]
asciilifeform	(e.g. melt hot glue without destroying the glued item)	[20:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26046 @ 0.00082709 = 21.5424 BTC [-] {2}	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	dry nail polish	[20:51]
asciilifeform	nah, vacuum works best for that one	[20:51]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00459999 = 0.897 BTC [-] {2}	[20:52]
artifexd	BingoBoingo At would price would you sell?	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform if the bitch is spherical.	[20:55]
asciilifeform	ah you meant on actual human nails.	[20:55]
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BingoBoingo	artifexd: Maybe throw out some prices and I'll way yes when one is agreeable?	[20:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61944984 = 1.2389 BTC [+] {2}	[21:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00465 = 0.1628 BTC [+]	[21:00]
benkay	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499580	[21:01]
ozbot	BTC Stolen from Poloniex	[21:01]
asciilifeform	unrelated: did anyone ever answer the call to implement btc reference client compatible in verilog?	[21:01]
benkay	suspicious activity monitors: nontrivial to implement.	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	no.	[21:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79200 @ 0.00082516 = 65.3527 BTC [-] {2}	[21:01]
benkay	transactional database transactions: what the hell is that and why would anyone?	[21:02]
asciilifeform	(doesn't have to be verilog in particular - any circuit description system would do)	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	benkay here's a random thought : as long as you're not running on transactional hardware, your "transactional" db stack is exactly implementable in mysql.	[21:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 265 @ 0.00468773 = 1.2422 BTC [+] {2}	[21:02]
artifexd	A million ATC for 1 btc	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	artifexd it's been trading over 100 satoshi since it was invented.	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	i think 125ish was the cheapest it ever went	[21:03]
artifexd	I bought 10k this morning for 75 satoshi	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	wow. who from ? where ?	[21:03]
asciilifeform	(circuit-level implementation, done correctly, would leave no room for doubt as to the fate of every input bit, and the origin of every output)	[21:03]
artifexd	https://x-bt.com/markets/atcbtc	[21:04]
ozbot	X-BT - The new marketplace for trading Bitcoin with Litecoin, Namecoin and Altcoin	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	pankkake you around btw ?	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo an' how about you ?	[21:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6265 BTC [+]	[21:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00475 = 0.475 BTC [+]	[21:08]
asciilifeform	from the 'weirdest CAPTCHA' candidates: http://www.microchip.su/search.php	[21:09]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I'm on x-bt as well. For an OTC trade I dunno if I can sell for less than 200 satoshis seeing how thin the asks are.	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo suppose i send you a btc so you can put a buywall at 100 in ?	[21:15]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I could do that	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	pm me an addy then	[21:15]
moiety	asciilifeform: flippin' heck! @ the captcha	[21:16]
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artifexd	The asks are thin. I'd be willing to do a million for 150 satoshi each.	[21:18]
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ThickAsThieves	I can sell some for 750sat	[21:19]
BingoBoingo	artifexd: Let me auth and I can sell 75000 at 150 satoshis per	[21:20]
BingoBoingo	;;eauth BingoBoingo	[21:20]
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artifexd	BingoBoingo deal	[21:20]
artifexd	;;ident	[21:21]
gribble	Nick 'artifexd', with hostmask 'artifexd!~artifexd@unaffiliated/artifexd', is identified as user 'artifexd', with GPG key id 11D1433947A3327A, key fingerprint 58A4FD3F492F49F5ECEA9D9911D1433947A3327A, and bitcoin address None	[21:21]
BingoBoingo	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:cc40ed3fbc8fef3a0949519122251b4db3bd6e36158af2dc2c7b9ab1	[21:21]
gribble	You are now authenticated for user BingoBoingo with key 309BB8D7F3251143	[21:21]
artifexd	pm addresses?	[21:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33740 @ 0.00082443 = 27.8163 BTC [-] {2}	[21:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00475002 = 0.2898 BTC [-] {2}	[21:22]
BingoBoingo	K, I am still waiting on a confirm on my withdrawal from the exchange	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	how slow are atc blocks these days ?	[21:22]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 319 @ 0.00475 = 1.5153 BTC [-]	[21:23]
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BingoBoingo	http://atc.blockr.io/	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	o right right	[21:25]
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BingoBoingo	Anyone mind pointing a Bitfury at ATC for a few minutes?	[21:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00479997 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2}	[21:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6281 BTC [+]	[21:37]
BingoBoingo	;;tslb	[21:37]
gribble	Time since last block: 50 seconds	[21:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[21:42]
benkay`	http://betaboston.com/news/2014/03/04/aereo-online-tv-streaming-broadcasters-supreme-court-justice-department/	[21:45]
ozbot	Feds now oppose Aereo, rejecting cloud apocalypse argument \| BetaBoston	[21:45]
benkay`	want to do something clever?	[21:45]
benkay`	leave the fucking states.	[21:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00470001 = 0.2538 BTC [-] {2}	[21:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 360 @ 0.0047 = 1.692 BTC [-] {2}	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	did they rule ?	[21:47]
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artifexd	While BingoBoingo has my appreciation for selling ATC to me, my bid for 1,000,000 ATC at 150 satoshis remains open. Thanks BingoBoingo!	[21:48]
ThickAsThieves	not til April	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	artifexd why no put it on x-btc ?	[21:49]
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artifexd	I put part of it on there.	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	aok	[21:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35126 @ 0.00082764 = 29.0717 BTC [+] {2}	[21:50]
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mircea_popescu	that book getting some meat on it.	[21:53]
artifexd	eh. not really. 2 million is me.	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	a, the aero thing is yest news really.	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	artifexd that 500k and 1.5 mn?	[21:55]
artifexd	yeah	[21:55]
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BingoBoingo	Yeah	[21:56]
artifexd	Wait. No. Only 500k of the 1.5 mn is me.	[21:56]
artifexd	So, I only have 1mn in bids up.	[21:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 30 @ 0.05107333 = 1.5322 BTC [-] {4}	[21:57]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.051 = 0.204 BTC [-] {2}	[21:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 35 @ 0.03636431 = 1.2728 BTC [-] {7}	[21:59]
KRS-One	.bait	[22:00]
ozbot	http://25.media.tumblr.com/d449b0f3da44baaedcce60296ee35ccd/tumblr_mwrxn19fNb1sls37no1_500.jpg	[22:00]
KRS-One	lol	[22:00]
KRS-One	https://twitter.com/FaceBitCoin/status/440916241554083840	[22:00]
ozbot	Twitter / FaceBitCoin: We got news for you, bub. If ...	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m79qv7HI6O1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg	[22:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 84 @ 0.03187883 = 2.6778 BTC [-] {2}	[22:00]
KRS-One	haha hmm	[22:01]
KRS-One	that girl is thick but looks damn good	[22:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.02511115 = 0.3767 BTC [-] {2}	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m79qs9b7JS1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg	[22:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.63140501 = 3.7884 BTC [+] {4}	[22:04]
ThickAsThieves	COG selloff	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	!t h cog	[22:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:COG] 1D: 0.02511115 / 0.0371273 / 0.05110001 (181 shares, 6.72004135 BTC), 7D: 0.02511115 / 0.04444576 / 0.08388999 (514 shares, 22.84512193 BTC), 30D: 0.02511115 / 0.06244861 / 0.11980000 (1662 shares, 103.78959078 BTC)	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	heh	[22:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.02512 = 0.1256 BTC [+] {2}	[22:06]
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nubbins`	getting a surprising amount of traction on casascius coins this past week	[22:10]
artifexd	nubbins` What's a series 1 with error running for nowadays?	[22:10]
nubbins`	all of the series 1s have errors ;)	[22:10]
nubbins`	if you mean a 1btc brass series 1, anywhere from 2.5btc to 5btc	[22:11]
artifexd	I do. Thank you.	[22:11]
nubbins`	fun fact, the 2011 1btc series-2 (non-error) are much harder to find	[22:11]
nubbins`	yet they command a lower premium	[22:12]
nubbins`	figure that out	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	so buy a bunch and save them a decade	[22:12]
nubbins`	the problem with saving them for a decade is that i don't think the btc premium will hold up	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	someone should make a site allowing the pedigree of coins to be traced	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	it'll prove invaluable down the road	[22:12]
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nubbins`	i've got pgp-signed documents from casascius stating my fingerprint and the serials of the coins i bought from him	[22:13]
nubbins`	i've been offering to extend the chain of custody with every sale	[22:13]
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ThickAsThieves	plus, doge will take over btc anyway right	[22:13]
nubbins`	i think one person has taken me up on it so far	[22:13]
nubbins`	tat, +1	[22:13]
asciilifeform	coin should be electronic. with small camera, dead-reckoning navigation gyro... antifuse ROM for log.	[22:13]
asciilifeform	there's your pedigree record...	[22:13]
nubbins`	coindano	[22:14]
nubbins`	in my experience, most people who collect casascius coins don't know shit about coin collecting in general	[22:15]
nubbins`	it's very, very common to see people determining resale value based on face value ("3x face" etc)	[22:15]
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mircea_popescu	heh	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	take it the other way : the more you put into educating market, the sooner you'll have an educated market.	[22:19]
nubbins`	i've been trying, it's an uphill battle	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	your efforts explode exponentially, the fact you put in some sane structure today attracts wall street tomorrow	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	and of course a bunch of fuctards who imagine THEY had anything to do with it	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	but all that is plainly indifferent to you. there's no requirement the fucktards know who gaia is.	[22:20]
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nubbins`	i honestly feel bad for the people paying 30btc for a 10btc piece because they saw an 0.5btc piece sell for 1.5	[22:21]
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nubbins`	18btc pissed down the drain	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	i feel bad with people with micropenis.	[22:21]
nubbins`	do you?!	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	for people*	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[22:21]
nubbins`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426836.msg5239917#msg5239917	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	not like they had 20 inches and decided to piss 18 of them away ya know ?	[22:22]
ozbot	[WTS] Casascius Series 1 1BTC, 5 BTC, 25 BTC	[22:22]
nubbins`	^ re: face value and resale value	[22:22]
nubbins`	too true	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	such shitty photos	[22:23]
nubbins`	even the good photos are shitty. those things are almost impossible to photograph well	[22:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 751 @ 0.0047 = 3.5297 BTC [-] {3}	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	because no tools.	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	(hint : spot lights don't work for coins)	[22:24]
nubbins`	nod. you need lighting	[22:24]
nubbins`	cell phone cameras are inadequare	[22:25]
nubbins`	inadequate, even	[22:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30631 @ 0.00082649 = 25.3162 BTC [-] {2}	[22:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00469999 = 0.3008 BTC [-] {2}	[22:25]
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mircea_popescu	Even at today's exchange rates, that's a TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLAR premium. For a privately-minted round issued in 2013.	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	Go into a coin store and tell them about this, watch their jaw hit the floor.	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	word.	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	anyway : you need a flat panel difuse lighting thing.	[22:26]
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mircea_popescu	there's special kits for taking pics of small shiny shit like coins	[22:26]
nubbins`	yeah	[22:26]
nubbins`	phone cameras usually have auto-focus as well, which really shits the bed photographing the holos	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498302.0	[22:27]
ozbot	Eternal Bitcoin Bonds by Usagi	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	this should be self-explainatory.	[22:27]
nubbins`	best casascius photos i ever took with a phone, and they're shit: http://imgur.com/a/BWHw5	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` yeah, if you use a bed the advantage is that the focus is fixed	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	and you know VERY well exactly how far off the item is	[22:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0762 = 0.1524 BTC [-] {2}	[22:28]
nubbins`	nod	[22:28]
nubbins`	fun fact, i sold that coin for 5.5btc	[22:28]
nubbins`	"In short, you have NOTHING to worry about."	[22:29]
nubbins`	i've heard that before	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[22:30]
BingoBoingo	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/	[22:32]
ozbot	Critical crypto bug leaves Linux, hundreds of apps open to eavesdropping \| Ars Technica	[22:32]
asciilifeform	Don't Blame The Mice!	[22:32]
jcpham	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499965.msg5512103#msg5512103	[22:33]
ozbot	WTS: 2012 McLaren MP4-12C 3.8L 616HP Supercar	[22:33]
asciilifeform	also fun:	[22:33]
asciilifeform	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/03/journalist-nsa-wont-give-me-a-secure-channel-to-communicate-on/	[22:33]
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mircea_popescu	derp.	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	what, you mean https is in no way s ?	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	who would have thought this!	[22:35]
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asciilifeform	'It's significant that no one managed to notice such glaring errors, particularly since they were contained in code that anyone can review.' << ahahaha	[22:35]
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nubbins`	"Hiring a lawyer to recoup < 50BTC is idiotic. Lack of practical legal recourse is what makes Bitcoin scamming so attractive."	[22:35]
nubbins`	i've heard THAT before, too.	[22:35]
nubbins`	BingoBoingo: i wish i had to use a glass to hear my neighbours	[22:35]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform "what, you mean just because people could expend highly specialised, intricate work that's usually highly paid for free it doesn't mean they also will?!?!?!"	[22:36]
asciilifeform	it would remain derp even if the code were written to spec, by a god.	[22:37]
asciilifeform	because PKI == chumpatron	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	gedankenexperiment : cleanning the streets in my town is open source	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	i could be out there scraping gum from the sidewalk at this very moment.	[22:37]
asciilifeform	fools will install the patched version, and 'ahhh i'm seekure now.'	[22:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.0905256 = 1.0863 BTC [+] {8}	[22:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.09254285 = 0.6478 BTC [+] {4}	[22:40]
nubbins`	grumble, no closer to getting keyboard input working in eulora	[22:41]
nubbins`	i wish there was someone else trying this on osx so we could compare notes ;(	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	me2	[22:41]
nubbins`	[17:15:46] Hi there gentlemen	[22:48]
nubbins`	[17:15:53] I'm a newbie over here.	[22:48]
nubbins`	[17:16:35] And I would like to receive a positive 1 rating for learning the GPG/OTC for BTC	[22:48]
deadweasel	"i opened my box of animal crackers, what did I win?	[22:48]
nubbins`	"i learned how to do my job, where is my raise?"	[22:48]
deadweasel	i exist, therefore rate me a positive 1	[22:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.61357 = 1.8407 BTC [-] {2}	[22:49]
nubbins`	heh	[22:49]
nubbins`	;:rate deadweasel 1 he exists	[22:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.60007504 = 2.4003 BTC [-] {3}	[22:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00574999 = 0.1437 BTC [+]	[22:51]
benkay`	http://www.meetup.com/Wantrepreneurs-Anonymous/?gj=ej1b&a=wg2_l1	[22:55]
benkay`	i get it	[22:55]
benkay`	everyone's retarded and incapable of doing things	[22:55]
benkay`	wanting ratings for using gpg	[22:55]
benkay`	thinking they're running companies	[22:55]
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Mats_cd03	mircea_popescu: what do you think future revenues look like after the changes	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	what are we talking about ?	[22:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0896002 = 0.448 BTC [-] {3}	[22:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00083069 = 24.2146 BTC [+] {2}	[22:57]
Mats_cd03	@ s.mpoe	[22:57]
FabianB_	mircea_popescu: haven't read backlog yet, has s.bbet divident already been discussed?	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	FabianB_ report published, dividend paid, was there a problem ?	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	Mats_cd03 hard to say.	[22:58]
asciilifeform	s.bbet ?!	[22:58]
asciilifeform	ah	[22:58]
asciilifeform	nm	[22:58]
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FabianB_	mircea_popescu: i have the feeling i got too much ;)	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	uhm	[22:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0895 = 0.537 BTC [-] {2}	[22:58]
FabianB_	total div divided by 3 mil instead of 10 mil	[22:58]
jurov	how much did you get per share?	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	Mar 04 11:24:30 [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 3.68215411 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 122 satoshi per share	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	ayup.	[22:59]
FabianB_	122 satoshi per	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	a well, thanks for pointing out ><	[22:59]
FabianB_	but i think it should be around 37 satoshi	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	will be charging 2.577507877 BTC against march profits.	[23:00]
benkay`	why does the div command even have a notional float?!	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	early dividends because the mp can't math.	[23:00]
ThickAsThieves	heh	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	benkay` mostly for this reason.	[23:00]
FabianB_	heh, the bbet usual :)	[23:00]
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mircea_popescu	we are very serious about our accounting	[23:00]
ThickAsThieves	what if i sell my bbet?	[23:01]
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mircea_popescu	we just don't use the same maths as the rest of you	[23:01]
ThickAsThieves	no debt to pay!	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves efficient market hypothesis!	[23:01]
benkay`	it just introduces an opportunity to screw things up.	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	your shares have already been discounted	[23:01]
FabianB_	well, shit happens	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	FabianB_ on a monthly basis	[23:01]
FabianB_	yeah, since next months div will be better anyway :)	[23:02]
ThickAsThieves	friggin scammars	[23:02]
ThickAsThieves	better bet yes on altcoin market cap bet to cover losses	[23:03]
FabianB_	i guess it's the only sane way to move it to next month	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	FabianB_ pretty much.	[23:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0047387 = 0.2369 BTC [+]	[23:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699997 = 0.154 BTC [+]	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	im just slightly distraught that there's no way i can blame this on kakobrekla	[23:05]
nubbins`	well, there is one way	[23:05]
nubbins`	unjustifiably ;D	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	benkay` but in seriousness : the float in the div command allows 3rd parties to verify the float.	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	as mpex won't let you pay for less than the records show, and you don't want to pay for more.	[23:06]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.04299986 = 0.344 BTC [+] {2}	[23:06]
FabianB_	most s.bbet shareholders are longterm anyway	[23:07]
benkay`	didn't you just pay to less than the nominal float?	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	!t m s.bbet	[23:07]
assbot	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0005 / 0.00050531 / 0.000511 (810 shares, 0.41 BTC), 30D: 0.0005 / 0.000616 / 0.00077 (22069 shares, 13.59 BTC)	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	FabianB_ indeed lol.	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	benkay` no. to more.	[23:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 37 @ 0.04389905 = 1.6243 BTC [+] {3}	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	basically i paid the entire profit to the 3mn shares outstanding	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	rather than pay 0.3xprofit to the 3mn shares outstanding	[23:08]
benkay`	ah yeah	[23:08]
benkay`	that thing where you have shares off the exchange	[23:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.0439103 = 0.6147 BTC [+]	[23:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.04417857 = 0.3092 BTC [+] {3}	[23:10]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5512802#msg5512802	[23:10]
ozbot	Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	teh gift that just keeps on givin'	[23:10]
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BitcoinPropagand	Any btc millionaire here?	[23:13]
BitcoinPropagand	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=447133.60	[23:14]
ozbot	FREE BITCOIN PROPAGANDA - HELP NEEDED	[23:14]
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ThickAsThieves	lol usagi	[23:16]
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benkay`	these arts are really impressive	[23:18]
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ThickAsThieves	kakobrekla 0: -0 / +1(1) 2013-07-15 1140 btc CPA contract.	[23:19]
ThickAsThieves	wassat?	[23:19]
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mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves back in 2012 i think ? kako had an insurance deal on which usagi's cpa paid out	[23:19]
ThickAsThieves	word, the date threw me	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	yeah no way that was last august	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	it was way before your time	[23:20]
benkay`	BitcoinPropagand: austerity has neat type design, i just don't care about austerity at all.	[23:21]
benkay`	or working class gold at all.	[23:21]
benkay`	ufo for sale is moderately amusing	[23:21]
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ThickAsThieves	‏@CharlieShrem 3h	[23:22]
ThickAsThieves	Tomorrow, 12CT/1ET I'll be giving a powerful speech via Skype adapted from @Falkvinge Stockholm, 2006 freedom demonstration. #TexasBitcoin	[23:22]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45700 @ 0.00082643 = 37.7679 BTC [-] {2}	[23:23]
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BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/440930297153347584	[23:33]
ozbot	Twitter / BBCBreaking: Russia test-fires ...	[23:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32184 @ 0.00082992 = 26.7101 BTC [+]	[23:34]
benkay`	and more, BingoBoingo http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/04/world/europe/top-russians-face-sanctions-by-us-for-crimea-crisis.html?_r=0	[23:34]
benkay`	that'n's per-tic-u-ler-ly lulzy	[23:34]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61000021 BTC [+]	[23:41]
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mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/774/feeder-cattle-jan-2015-over-250-at-any/	[23:44]
ozbot	BitBet - Feeder Cattle Jan 2015 over $250 at any point in 2014	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	if anybody got any feeder cattle.	[23:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]	[23:46]
moiety	the bitbet i have been waiting for!	[23:46]
pLambert	what is this, a bitbet not based on bitcoin? Absurd!	[23:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.58261144 = 6.9913 BTC [-] {8}	[23:48]
moiety	how much do storage containers cost?	[23:48]
benkay`	TEU's run about 1.6KUSD over here, moiety.	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	yeah, coupla grand or so	[23:49]
benkay`	china ships 'em over and then doesn't want them back.	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	but you can't move gfs in containers.	[23:49]
moiety	ok i have a new grand plan!	[23:49]
BingoBoingo	WHy not?	[23:49]
moiety	yes you can mircea_popescu in fact, loads of them at once!	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	ps : for the people not doing agrifutures : gf is the code prefix for feeder cattle.	[23:49]
moiety	ohhh	[23:49]
moiety	lol	[23:49]
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mircea_popescu	gfj4 is the current on the run (apr 2014)	[23:50]
ninjashogun	hi	[23:50]
ninjashogun	hi, mircea_popescu	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	ello	[23:50]
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moiety	this week's grand plan: (this one is for accomodation) http://www.worthytoshare.com/house-super-cool-inside-outside-shocked-much	[23:51]
nubbins`	"a powerful speech via Skype"	[23:51]
nubbins`	lel	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	moiety yeah well, the poor of india live in containers since the 50s	[23:52]
nubbins`	"a serious document written in red crayon"	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	there are problem	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` kids today.	[23:52]
pLambert	mircea_popescu: in your statements you keep saying "The P/E implied value per share is so far 0 BTC." What is that going to say when you do have earnings? Do you have a PE value you will calculate an estimated price from?	[23:52]
moiety	i bet they don't look like that mircea_popescu	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	pLambert well, avg price / earnings	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	moiety there are problems, such as due to lack of foundations.	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	poor thermic and fonic insulation	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	it's really not such a great solution.	[23:53]
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pLambert	yeah, I know how to get PE, but what is a P/E implied value?	[23:53]
moiety	6 containers @ 2k each seemed fab idea.. ok i'll stay in my igloo	[23:54]
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asciilifeform	shipping container works best when you bury in a concrete-lined pit.	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	pLambert the implied simply translates the fact that the earnigns and the price signals are averages and so... a guess.	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	moiety 1.5-2k is for an actually functional ones.	[23:55]
moiety	asciilifeform: couldn't you sort of paint the inside iof it with cement?	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	you can prolly buy scrap for the cost of metal.	[23:55]
asciilifeform	moiety: structural, rather than decorative	[23:55]
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moiety	yes but to save having to bury it	[23:55]
asciilifeform	earth + planks is the frame for the pour.	[23:56]
asciilifeform	so, buried.	[23:56]
moiety	i just feel renting is such bad value	[23:57]
asciilifeform	moiety: you rent a shipping container?	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	no, she curently rents a tea cozy	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	but plans to move up in the world	[23:57]
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moiety	you qould buy it if you were to live in it though right	[23:57]
asciilifeform	where i live, it is forbidden to live in anything that is not a house, except in specially-designated leper colonies.	[23:58]
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moiety	mircea_popescu: exactly! discovering containers aren't really 'up' though now XD	[23:59]
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moiety	asciilifeform: there was a couple here built an amazing house and they had to tear it down becauseit didn't qualify	[23:59]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[23:59]

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