Forum logs for 03 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform stirrup finder! aka ninjasp4mz0r [00:00]
thickasthieves asii is much more respected in my book than you [00:00]
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thickasthieves ascii* [00:00]
mircea_popescu by the way, did you know girls can get strep cunt if you give them head while you have strep throat ? [00:00]
mircea_popescu apparently it's awful. [00:00]
thickasthieves strp just say what you want or leave me alone [00:00]
* dub didn't [00:00]
strp thickasthieves, I understand this but I came in here at your request. This can hardly be called spamming. If you don't like my suggestion, just say so. :) [00:00]
thickasthieves this is what i get for saying i can troll, isnt it [00:01]
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strp thickasthieves, I told you what I'm looking for. You got a recommendation as a level-headed, responsible person, and if you would like to partner with an ambitious, mercurial, head-strong, impulsive, capricious one who has wildly expansive plans, then tell me. If not, it's okay. [00:01]
deedBot Bundled: [00:01]
thickasthieves Yes, strp you are just the man I'm looking for, where do we begin? [00:02]
strp Well, I'd assume skype, and we can see if there's a match? [00:02]
dub first you gotta take off joor shoes [00:02]
thickasthieves can we talk here? [00:02]
asciilifeform obligatory: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt [00:03]
strp I don't know anything about you, and I'd assume you wouldn't want to discuss it in a logged forum. It is difficult to have an uknnown as a business partner without sharing anything, don't you think? [00:03]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03: IS ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET REAL << wasn't there a snopes debunk about this urban legend where someone supposedly asked once if things on the internet are real ? [00:03]
thickasthieves you assume incorrectly [00:03]
thickasthieves i love doing business here [00:03]
strp well, when I asked about super-basic and general background information, I got an extremely negative response. [00:03]
dub get paul graham in here [00:04]
strp why? [00:04]
thickasthieves i'm a sensitive man [00:04]
dub he's your bff remember [00:04]
thickasthieves it's part of my level-headed responsible charm [00:04]
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diametric strp: welcome back [00:04]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/cisco-the-internet-needs-more-control/ <<< this from the company that lost 90% of its sales because it turned out they worked as usg spies. [00:04]
mircea_popescu how about cisco needs more bankruptcy [00:05]
jurov who is strp? [00:05]
strp dub, well I did just write him an emial let me check... literally a 1 hour and 16 minutes ago. [00:05]
thickasthieves i have mail?! [00:05]
strp no, not you. [00:05]
dub jurov: ninjashogun [00:05]
strp he's trolling me on my YC relationships. [00:05]
strp dub, if you weren't trolling --- you would have a lot more luck getting Sam Altman (the current YC president) in here. He has taken a HUGE liking to crypto currencies. [00:06]
thickasthieves oh you are connected to ninjashogun? [00:06]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03: seems i'm wrong, i need someone that knows more finance than me to chime in << what is the q again ? [00:06]
mircea_popescu strp if we didn;'t think him an idiot that argument may hold more value. [00:06]
strp dub, see here for example: http://blog.samaltman.com/reddit He is going to give out free equity in Reddit. (10% of the funds it raises on its latest fundraising round) [00:07]
assbot reddit - Sam Altman [00:07]
thickasthieves ;;gettrust strp [00:07]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user strp: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=strp | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=strp | Rated since: never [00:07]
thickasthieves you dont even exist! [00:07]
strp thickasthieves, anyway you said I was wrong that you owuldn't like to introduce yourself in a public, logged channel. So, go ahead. [00:07]
mircea_popescu strp free "equity" in reddit is worth abut the same as free equity in ethereum, [00:08]
thickasthieves strp i'm talking about you, i;m simply asking you to state your business [00:08]
strp thickasthieves, if (as anyone normal) you would prefer to do it privately you can also PM me an introduction. I don't know anything about you other than that you hang out in -assets and were recomended as responsible and level-headed. [00:08]
thickasthieves who are you though? i dont talk to strangers privately [00:08]
mircea_popescu davidlatapie what, were you going to count the pies flying ? [00:08]
dub someone set you up tat [00:08]
mircea_popescu the bomb ? [00:09]
diametric strp: nice weather we're having in fort meade today [00:09]
strp mircea_popescu, well, I was connected with a guy who I think made heavy coin on ethereum. I didn't verify. [00:09]
kakobrekla anyone made any coin on etherum!? [00:09]
mircea_popescu you and your retarded boy groups. im sure you're connected to someone who you think has had sex. [00:09]
mircea_popescu WITH A GIRL! [00:09]
strp if you guys don't prefer to scam today I can share the email I got from the ethereum investor, in wihch he talked aobut some of his returns. (removing his name.) [00:10]
mircea_popescu #monero-mew ? srsly ? [00:10]
strp I meant to say "troll" not scam, sorry. [00:10]
mircea_popescu these ppls. [00:10]
dub wat [00:10]
thickasthieves strp, here's the deal, you have until your voice in this channel runs out to make your case for talking to me after that dont speak to me again [00:10]
mircea_popescu strp yeah, we're totally going to care about some ethereum pr copy. it's like, in short supply. [00:10]
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strp no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with. [00:11]
mircea_popescu !down strp [00:11]
thickasthieves !down strp [00:11]
mircea_popescu yeah, you do. [00:11]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform how was the factory ? [00:11]
mircea_popescu too slow, thicksy. [00:11]
thickasthieves i even had it yped already [00:11]
thickasthieves :( [00:11]
thickasthieves typed [00:11]
thickasthieves no wonder i suck at dota [00:11]
mircea_popescu you can't outtype me. NOBODY CAN OUTTYPE ME. [00:11]
mircea_popescu I HAD SURGERY FOR IT! [00:11]
danielpbarron thickasthieves, you play dota? me too! [00:13]
fluffypony !up davidlatapie [00:13]
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fluffypony davidlatapie: there, fixed [00:13]
thickasthieves https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2716/4196209078_a198a5fa83.jpg [00:13]
davidlatapie Thanks fluffypony [00:13]
thickasthieves mp's fingers [00:13]
mircea_popescu holy shit [00:14]
thickasthieves yes daniel, my name is currently Bitcoin in dota [00:14]
mircea_popescu you could fuck a cow with that [00:14]
danielpbarron there should be an official -assets dota team [00:14]
davidlatapie mircea_popescu: Well, this is what happens when one wants to join interesting conversation and can't accept to just let it go because he doesn't have time to answer. So yeah, watching pies flying [00:14]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves what the fuck is that anyway ? ringworms ? [00:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not proper 'plant', as in factory, but a place related to one of my day jobs. [00:14]
thickasthieves i just googled keyboard deformed fingers [00:15]
davidlatapie mircea_popescu: how should I understand "#monero-mew ? srsly ?" [00:15]
mircea_popescu davidlatapie i didn't manage to get that one. come again ? [00:15]
davidlatapie mircea_popescu> davidlatapie what, were you going to count the pies flying ? [00:15]
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mircea_popescu yeah, as in, came in here as rpietilla to see if we bite head off and how many times. [00:15]
davidlatapie I assume you were resentful because I'm lurking even when voiced [00:15]
thickasthieves http://www.sorryican.com/2013/11/lui-hua-man-with-worlds-largest-hand.html [00:15]
mircea_popescu im not resentful dood. [00:15]
assbot Lui Hua the man with world's largest hand - Facts | Sorry I Can [00:16]
mircea_popescu and i didn;t voice you because i didn't realise you're not voiced. [00:16]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust davidlatapie [00:16]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user davidlatapie: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=davidlatapie | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davidlatapie | Rated since: never [00:16]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot davidlatapie [00:16]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user davidlatapie: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=davidlatapie | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davidlatapie | Rated since: never [00:16]
mircea_popescu ;;rate davidlatapie 1 New blood [00:16]
gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. [00:16]
mircea_popescu doh, [00:16]
davidlatapie ouch, yeah, I really have to fix this WoT things. Entirely my fault. [00:16]
davidlatapie mircea_popescu: the rpietila part was purely technical. I was setting up an IRC account for Risto, nothing else :) [00:17]
rithm burn the witch! [00:17]
mircea_popescu has the guy been in the hospital since his stay after that hotel mishap ? [00:18]
ben_vulpes davidtilapia [00:19]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves: ol, Circle's login suggests what email you might be trying to enter< omfg ?! NOT by quering their userdb i hope beyond hope ?! [00:19]
thickasthieves it seemed fairly specific [00:19]
thickasthieves i didnt test [00:20]
kakobrekla nobody is that stupid [00:20]
BingoBoingo Lotta Pie? [00:20]
chetty riiiight [00:20]
davidlatapie ben_vulpes: lol [00:20]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla you know how often that was said, in human history ? [00:21]
mircea_popescu and how many times it actually was correct ? [00:21]
kakobrekla !s 'nobody is that stupid' [00:21]
assbot 1 results for ''nobody is that stupid'' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%27nobody+is+that+stupid%27 [00:21]
thickasthieves it might just be a tlf suggester [00:21]
kakobrekla not much [00:21]
thickasthieves since i use a weird one [00:21]
thickasthieves tld [00:21]
thickasthieves * [00:21]
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thickasthieves yeah it is [00:23]
thickasthieves i can type any addy with this tld and it suggests .ca instead with same addy [00:23]
mircea_popescu a ok. [00:23]
mircea_popescu "In one case, they showed that the infected USB can impersonate a keyboard to type any keystrokes the attacker chooses on the victim’s machine. Because it affects the firmware of the USB’s microcontroller, that attack program would be stored in the rewritable code that controls the USB’s basic functions, not in its flash memory—even deleting the entire contents of its storage wouldn’t catch the malware. Other [00:23]
mircea_popescu firmware tricks demonstrated by Caudill and Wilson would hide files in that invisible portion of the code, or silently disable a USB’s security feature that password-protects a certain portion of its memory." [00:23]
mircea_popescu i don't get it, what's the big deal ? [00:23]
mircea_popescu or why is this surprising to anyone, or what exactly ? [00:24]
asciilifeform Oct 02 16:43:29 oh-ho-ho - look who turned out to be completely right. http://www.wired.com/2014/10/code-published-for-unfixable-usb-attack/ and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8400796 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#855577 [00:25]
assbot The Unpatchable Malware That Infects USBs Is Now on the Loose | WIRED [00:25]
assbot Unpatchable Malware That Infects USBs | Hacker News [00:25]
assbot Logged on 02-10-2014 20:12:02; asciilifeform: re: usb diddling: i had the entire thing working two years ago, with same 'phison', likewise cribbed russian docs. didn't think it was interesting to anyone other than me. [00:25]
dub maybe s.nsa could release a patch [00:25]
mircea_popescu dub how are you going to patch the fact that the microcontroler is a... microcontroler ? [00:25]
mircea_popescu ps. the EXACT SAME could be said of... hard drives. [00:25]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: fw reflashable via usb is reflashable - news at 11. [00:25]
mircea_popescu and.. video cards. [00:25]
mircea_popescu and... MONITORS. [00:25]
kakobrekla taking shareholders interest into an account, best would be to sell usb condoms. [00:26]
ben_vulpes how did that bitbet hack attempt play out? [00:26]
ben_vulpes i'm declaring log bankruptcy [00:26]
ben_vulpes 1800 lines [00:26]
mircea_popescu no but srsly, is this 2016 "tech" press material, omfg we discovered you could make malicious hard drive [00:26]
ben_vulpes by thursday [00:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i choked from lol when heard of this idiocy, having performed the precisely same experiment, with same chip, long ago, and thought it was entirely boring [00:26]
mircea_popescu and all your dumbass "encrypted partition" stuff is worthless therefore ? [00:26]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes not went anywhere. [00:27]
mircea_popescu guy's not been back [00:27]
mircea_popescu here's 3 more lines for your deficit [00:27]
thickasthieves how could i ever trust usb comdoms [00:27]
mircea_popescu cum domes [00:27]
thickasthieves n [00:27]
kakobrekla thickasthieves use 2 to be extra safe [00:28]
thickasthieves if you put usb in butt, can you get virus? [00:28]
mircea_popescu no but you can get stretch butt. [00:28]
davidlatapie mircea_popescu: how should I understand your "#monero-mew ? srsly ?" Funny name, stupid initiative, such idea much wow, else? [00:28]
asciilifeform the 'condom' people collected 10k+ usd to build... 4 to 2-wire usb jack. for 10k a man could build an airplane! [00:29]
mircea_popescu davidlatapie i have nfi idea what monero is because in spite of being invited fluffypony doesn't want to give the group a presentation. the comment is just as to the improbable nature of the name. why mew and what's someone not in on the jokes to make of it. [00:29]
thickasthieves monero is like a darkcoin [00:30]
thickasthieves right? [00:30]
thickasthieves anonicoin [00:30]
mircea_popescu teward: punkman: i'm surprised github lets that code exist... if it IS, after all, malicious... <<< since when is github policing the code ?! [00:30]
Dimsler http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/02/farrakhan-claims-ebola-invented-to-kill-off-blacks/ [00:31]
assbot Farrakhan claims Ebola invented to kill off blacks | Fox News [00:31]
kakobrekla asciilifeform now imagine one ... with gold plated contacts. [00:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: hard drives << all extant drives have trivially flashable fw, and very spiffy cpu and ram kit - sometimes multiple 'cores' and 64M+ ! usually some variant of 'arm'. [00:31]
kakobrekla 20k does not escape. [00:31]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I'll totally do a group presentation...one day...when I have time...promise... [00:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform which is my point. if you're going to play evil govt you're better off doing it with hdd. [00:31]
mircea_popescu better access to bus than a shitty usb [00:31]
mircea_popescu mostly because the usb "standard" looks like something gavin, taaki and that other guy put together. [00:32]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: fetish for usb is because contagion. 'everybody' carries the usb drives. or something like that. [00:33]
thickasthieves usb is easier to attack with [00:33]
mircea_popescu everybody carries hdds, too. [00:33]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves how did you figure that one out ? [00:33]
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thickasthieves havent you ever seen breaking bad? [00:33]
thickasthieves l2security [00:33]
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mircea_popescu in fact, i've seen computors w/o usbs. not seen any w/o hdds for > 20 years now./ [00:33]
Dimsler slapstick comedy at best [00:33]
fluffypony you've seen the USB stuff that was released over the last 24 hours right? [00:33]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony more like over the past 3-4 weeks but ok. [00:33]
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thickasthieves mp is just saying there was no reason to think usb was secure [00:34]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves that's one half. the other half is, these megadiscoveries suck. o, rly, you can make it be fake kbd ?! wow nelly! [00:34]
mircea_popescu you know what, i can make a fake kbd out of tin foil. [00:34]
Dimsler can you wear it like a hat? [00:34]
mircea_popescu and sling it over my shoulder! [00:35]
fluffypony https://github.com/adamcaudill/Psychson [00:35]
assbot adamcaudill/Psychson GitHub [00:35]
fluffypony such USB. [00:35]
Dimsler mircea_popescu, bitbet hacked yet? [00:35]
kakobrekla hm, i have a 'fake' keyboard intentionally. [00:35]
mircea_popescu Dimsler not afawn [00:36]
davidlatapie OK so if fluffypony plans a group presentation, I should not encroach on his turf, mircea_popescu [00:36]
mircea_popescu anyway, the whole usb reads like so much media whoring to me, possibly with the malicious twist of trying to drown legitimate stuff like THE BASH HOLES!!! AFTER THE SSH HOLES!!! [00:36]
mircea_popescu into some sort of general idiotic frenzy. [00:36]
mircea_popescu "o look, this car can go in reverse! which is exactly what the manual says! YO COULD KILL PEOPLE!!!" [00:36]
thickasthieves probly just a ploy to get everyone to buy new usb sticks [00:37]
thickasthieves china needs more work [00:37]
Dimsler i don't think it matters [00:37]
Dimsler what are you going to do? hack someones cat picutres and selfies? [00:37]
mircea_popescu more like a ploy to get people to better learn helplessness. [00:37]
asciilifeform the real lulz - idiot lifts ancient material from ru forums, passes it off as fresh turd! [00:37]
Dimsler lol i know [00:38]
thickasthieves how come russia is so hax inclined [00:38]
Dimsler must get money through internet [00:38]
Dimsler obviously [00:38]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform well the muricans are at this major cultural disadvantage where they cnat raed. and so... http://trilema.com/2014/anonymous-derpage/ [00:38]
thickasthieves orlov is on about americans not readinf today too [00:39]
thickasthieves cuz he has a kids book to sell [00:39]
mircea_popescu well i got no book to sell. [00:39]
mircea_popescu which incidentally makes me realise, this is an excellent reason against a trilema book. [00:39]
kakobrekla ;;isitup trilema.com [00:39]
[]bot Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 41Bn before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1050/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 45(Y):55(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.14235445 BTC. Current weight: 37,637. [00:39]
mircea_popescu no ?! [00:39]
fluffypony ;;isup trilema.com [00:40]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla stop toying with my heart. [00:40]
fluffypony gah, gribble, you suck [00:40]
fluffypony !8ball is trilema.com up? [00:40]
mircea_popescu ;;isitdown fluffypony.girlfriend [00:40]
thickasthieves why make a book when you could just continue curating trilema [00:40]
kakobrekla not working here [00:40]
fluffypony ;;8ball is trilema.com up? [00:40]
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fluffypony srsly. [00:40]
fluffypony HAH HAH [00:40]
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mircea_popescu now you made britni crea [00:40]
fluffypony I killed gribble [00:40]
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mircea_popescu crae* [00:40]
fluffypony nanotube: sorry [00:40]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla try a proxy ? [00:41]
kakobrekla works now [00:41]
kakobrekla dunno [00:41]
kakobrekla nsa [00:41]
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thickasthieves isup for me [00:41]
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mircea_popescu BGP HIJAX! [00:41]
thickasthieves try a different usb [00:41]
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thickasthieves goat is polluting the tradingview chat now [00:42]
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kakobrekla lol [00:42]
mircea_popescu anyway, this euro devaluation business is the absolute worst news conceivable for the us. [00:43]
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mircea_popescu seems obama's fucktarded "sanctions" on russia have backfired monstrously. now the eu is sanctioning the us. [00:43]
chetty maybe its what he intended tho, might not be a backfire at all [00:44]
mircea_popescu the trade balance's going to look awful. [00:44]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla: is fed up of her shit. <<< i originally thought you said "slit" [00:49]
thickasthieves ;;estimate [00:51]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 33998165786.8 based on data since last change | 35283698863.9 based on data for last three days [00:51]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [00:53]
gribble Current Blocks: 323551 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 1024 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 5 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 33998165786.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.91354 [00:53]
mircea_popescu still under huh. [00:53]
thickasthieves could be [00:53]
thickasthieves could be a good price indicator [00:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.000742 = 9.9428 BTC [-] {2} [00:55]
mircea_popescu never was before, but i guess at some point it's gotta start. [00:58]
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thickasthieves been a long time since we went down in diff, no? [00:59]
mircea_popescu actually, it's been over a year. [00:59]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu i guess that too [00:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 180 @ 0.00444555 = 0.8002 BTC [-] {3} [00:59]
thickasthieves why is this info so hard to find [01:01]
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kakobrekla diff? [01:02]
kakobrekla its in the blockchain [01:02]
thickasthieves sure, but how do you quickly poll that info, diff changes [01:03]
thickasthieves and dates [01:03]
kakobrekla someone is keeping a google doc up [01:04]
kakobrekla somewhere [01:04]
thickasthieves https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiFMBvXvL2dtdEZkR2J4eU5rS3B4ei1iUmJxSWNlQ0E [01:04]
assbot Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free. [01:04]
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thickasthieves also http://www.coindesk.com/data/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-time/ [01:05]
assbot Bitcoin Difficulty Chart - Chart of Mining Difficulty History [01:05]
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kakobrekla coindesk saves the day xD [01:05]
kakobrekla thickasthieves sipa.be ? [01:06]
kakobrekla ;;google bitcoin sipa [01:06]
gribble Bitcoin network graphs: ; sipa (Pieter Wuille) · GitHub: ; Bitcoin Charts / Bitcoin Network: [01:06]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/minigame-smg-september-2014-statement/ < chetty [01:07]
assbot MiniGame (S.MG), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [01:07]
thickasthieves Jan 24 2013 was the last time it went down [01:07]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves srsly, http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ [01:08]
assbot Bitcoin network graphs [01:08]
thickasthieves it had been flat since Oct '12 [01:08]
mircea_popescu also lulzy, and little know fact : bitcoin took a year to get out of 1 diff ? [01:09]
kakobrekla !up The20YearIRCloud [01:09]
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The20YearIRCloud thx [01:10]
The20YearIRCloud mircea_popescu: are those #s in BTC or eur/usd? [01:10]
mircea_popescu "those" ? [01:10]
The20YearIRCloud the cash on hand and various figures for s.mg [01:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1728 @ 0.00074398 = 1.2856 BTC [+] {2} [01:12]
mircea_popescu all bitcoin. [01:12]
thickasthieves pricewise it was at a major just after diff went flat, once diff starting going up again, the price went from $13 to $260 [01:12]
thickasthieves major low* [01:12]
The20YearIRCloud dang, that's alot of reserve capital [01:12]
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mircea_popescu supposedly making a mmorpg costs millions. [01:17]
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The20YearIRCloud Depends on quality, my brother is in the industry and has looked long and hard at game development [01:19]
mircea_popescu http://www.filmvz.com/pizda/pizda-romaneasca-goala.htm <<< grep for "trilema", see me hack a pronsite. [01:19]
assbot Pizda Romaneasca Goala | Filmvz Portal [01:19]
The20YearIRCloud The real disconnect is : Do you have a quality team of programmers that know what they're doing or not [01:19]
The20YearIRCloud Prior to HASH and his contract work, Ben did data anaylis for a Icann company, and learned quite a bit about the seedy underbelly of video games [01:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00074193 = 6.529 BTC [-] [01:21]
The20YearIRCloud the real problem is finding quality programmers that won't rob you blind. His former company was chock full of guys pulling $100k/yr , yet when it came to business sense there wasn't much to go around. [01:22]
mircea_popescu this is quite universal. [01:23]
The20YearIRCloud of course, but from what i've seen video game developers are even worse. So many pseudo-artists deciding that it's all better than a lotto ticket. They spent several million on a game that made something like a hundred dollars [01:24]
The20YearIRCloud All while ben, their senior data anylist told them it was a failure waiting to happen, and to spend more effort on advertising their games that were already cash positive [01:24]
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The20YearIRCloud The company had a patent on some pretty amazing software dealing with getting html5 to convert old PC games to online play. Some were even phone compatible I guess. but instead they wanted to spend a bunch of VC on some pie in the sky, get rich quick game that flopped massively [01:25]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [01:26]
mircea_popescu what was it called ? [01:26]
The20YearIRCloud the company or the failure game? [01:27]
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mircea_popescu the game [01:28]
The20YearIRCloud I can't remember, it was a guitar hero clone that was exclusively for facebook, and was controlled by your keyboard [01:28]
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mircea_popescu well, the company then [01:29]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/minigame-smg-september-2014-statement/ [01:30]
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atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 303620.70 in 616 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.83 [01:57]
BingoBoingo Oh, the US is going to use that plane they wanted to mothball this year against ISIS http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-usafs-much-maligned-a-10-warthogs-are-deploying-to-1640395280/+laceydonohue [01:58]
assbot The USAF's Much Maligned A-10 Warthogs Are Deploying To Fight ISIS [01:58]
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mircea_popescu because you know, it's "not needed" [01:59]
mircea_popescu being the only us plane of actual use in the field. [02:00]
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BingoBoingo Exactly. Fighterjets are important to counter all of those ISIS fighterjets. [02:04]
mircea_popescu "Please note that this channel is only for reports of alleged infringements or [02:05]
mircea_popescu violations of your legal rights, such as copyright or trademark. If you filed that [02:05]
mircea_popescu type of report, no further action is necessary. However, if you contacted us through [02:05]
mircea_popescu this channel about another matter, you might not receive a response." [02:05]
mircea_popescu dumbest notification ever. [02:05]
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penguirker New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-september-2014/ [02:16]
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mircea_popescu hanbot put in deedsbot too [02:21]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-september-2014-statement/ < kakobrekla pls to put a link ty ? [02:22]
assbot BitBet (S.BBET) September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:22]
RagnarDanneskjol deedbot is undergoing some cleanup [02:22]
mircea_popescu !up deedBot [02:23]
-assbot- You voiced deedBot for 30 minutes. [02:23]
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mircea_popescu .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iySceLAy [02:23]
deedBot deed 8A736F0E2FB7B452 mircea_popescu with 1 signature valid in next bundle [02:23]
deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iySceLAy [02:23]
kakobrekla !s from:kakobrekla .deed [02:23]
assbot 5 results for 'from:kakobrekla .deed' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Akakobrekla+.deed [02:23]
mircea_popescu .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PcDCqn9x [02:24]
deedBot deed 8A736F0E2FB7B452 mircea_popescu with 1 signature valid in next bundle [02:24]
deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PcDCqn9x [02:24]
kakobrekla link to pastebin ? [02:24]
kakobrekla wtf this is too much overhead [02:25]
RagnarDanneskjol http://deedbot.com is where those will post in the near future [02:25]
assbot deedBot [02:25]
mircea_popescu .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aZp4KxUw [02:25]
deedBot deed 8A736F0E2FB7B452 mircea_popescu with 1 signature valid in next bundle [02:25]
deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aZp4KxUw [02:25]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla nah to the bundle as signed. [02:25]
kakobrekla there is nothing there [02:26]
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kakobrekla a wait [02:26]
mircea_popescu !up ek_ [02:28]
-assbot- You voiced ek_ for 30 minutes. [02:28]
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kakobrekla http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-september-2014-statement/#comment-108424 [02:28]
assbot BitBet (S.BBET) September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:28]
kakobrekla (Your comment is awaiting moderation) [02:28]
mircea_popescu yay splendid! [02:29]
mircea_popescu i mean splendeed [02:29]
kakobrekla 2 suggestions: make deeds searchable and add a simple syntax, at least so that we specify 'title' and 'content' in the signed content [02:29]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol this new "from x recent days" system is atrocious. [02:29]
mircea_popescu simply break stuff up in 1k line pages say [02:30]
RagnarDanneskjol agreed [02:30]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 40(Y):60(N) by coin, 57(Y):43(N) by weight. Total bet: 2818.19563162 BTC. Current weight: 40,254. [02:30]
RagnarDanneskjol like I mentioned, I believe development and hosting for the bot needs to change hands real soon [02:30]
mircea_popescu myeah [02:31]
deedBot deed 454B0FC0BC07B87E hanbot with 1 signature valid in next bundle [02:36]
deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MU2TEWPG [02:36]
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RagnarDanneskjol I wouldnt do any deeds at this point. I believe he is resetting a lot of things [02:37]
RagnarDanneskjol but cannot get a straight answer [02:38]
RagnarDanneskjol http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/ [02:38]
assbot DEEDS [02:38]
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mircea_popescu he'd better not be resetting any lot of things. [02:45]
RagnarDanneskjol as with previous updates, he had to backup the deed list and reinstall I believe. please discuss with him - I dont want to misrepreset [02:46]
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mircea_popescu i'm right here. [02:46]
RagnarDanneskjol i kno [02:47]
mircea_popescu https://blockchain.info/address/1FG2dA9D6Fmop6v9uKvGwW22UykRdt5T55 << these spamderps, check it out, five minutes. [02:49]
assbot Bitcoin Address 1FG2dA9D6Fmop6v9uKvGwW22UykRdt5T55 [02:49]
mircea_popescu so basically this fuckwit put in a buncha unconfirmable satoshi spoam just to get his dumbass website included (text only, no link) on blockchain website [02:51]
mircea_popescu they gotta go to a special school to be this untimely stupid, it just can't occur naturally. [02:51]
RagnarDanneskjol haha [02:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ^ there, that's your idiot working "to make money while he sleeps". that's the prototype. [02:51]
mircea_popescu couldn't be in here, doing honest, useful work and building himself in the process. [02:51]
mircea_popescu o, no, he's got to be an independent fucktard, doing nothing for 20 years and then wondering why the state isn't taking care of his asthma. [02:52]
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mircea_popescu and you know what ? here : http://bitmsqr.com [02:55]
mircea_popescu and im gonna fucking click it, too, just so he imagines this retardation works. [02:56]
mircea_popescu some people are their own best punishment. [02:56]
asciilifeform defunct. [02:56]
mircea_popescu no wai [02:56]
mircea_popescu dude.... [02:56]
mircea_popescu where's my fucking neocortex. [02:56]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You got scammed, the shop just left the oldcortex in. There never was a new one. [02:59]
mircea_popescu no i meant it as an expression of general oy vey. [02:59]
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nubbins` http://imgur.com/a/9C8pq nsfw [03:24]
assbot What a glorious time to be alive - Imgur [03:24]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Who is that? [03:27]
nubbins` some guy [03:27]
nubbins` looks 3d printed, custom job i'm assuming [03:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11340 @ 0.00074551 = 8.4541 BTC [+] [03:33]
BingoBoingo lol [03:34]
BingoBoingo !up jborkl [03:34]
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jborkl Good evening [03:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1256 @ 0.00057945 = 0.7278 BTC [+] [03:36]
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BingoBoingo Evening [03:48]
assbot [MPEX] [D.BTGO] 12 @ 0.0524997 = 0.63 BTC [03:53]
mircea_popescu damn this kbd is falling apart. [03:54]
mircea_popescu i've destroyed so many... [03:54]
kakobrekla get a model m? [03:54]
mircea_popescu i guess yeah [03:55]
mircea_popescu tbh i kinda like destroying kbds. strokes my immortality delusion. [03:55]
kakobrekla perhaps there are better things to destroy [03:55]
mircea_popescu i destroy those, too. [03:56]
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asciilifeform 'model m' can only really be destroyed with power tools. [04:02]
asciilifeform or perhaps axe. [04:03]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i sometimes rage. [04:03]
asciilifeform also great to rage with. steel bottom. [04:03]
asciilifeform can break other objects. [04:03]
mircea_popescu well yeah but a chino kbd is 10 bux., [04:03]
mircea_popescu other objects... not so much [04:04]
asciilifeform 'model m', secondhand, perhaps 20. (usually they need a day worth of cleaning through) [04:04]
mircea_popescu 2*24th hand model m, 20 bux [04:04]
mircea_popescu explosive congestive polio, priceless. [04:04]
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mircea_popescu and if i use it to cut a hole in my wall ima need a new wall. [04:05]
kakobrekla excuses [04:05]
mircea_popescu i admeet. [04:06]
asciilifeform good compromise - 'northgate' kbd. [04:06]
asciilifeform i've one in this room [04:06]
asciilifeform and has kosher f-keys. [04:06]
mircea_popescu my current device is SOL Tech [04:06]
asciilifeform http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/OmniKey_ULTRA.JPG [04:06]
mircea_popescu pretty much only english layout kbd i could find here. [04:06]
kakobrekla ever used topre ? [04:06]
[]bot Bet placed: 999 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 47(Y):53(N) by weight. Total bet: 3817.19563162 BTC. Current weight: 40,234. [04:07]
kakobrekla lolwat [04:07]
Duffer1 ok then [04:08]
kakobrekla also []bot is still broked, missing bets [04:08]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-magical-clave-de-identificacion/ [04:09]
asciilifeform 'In the world of gourmet keyboards, the Topre key switch is widely considered to be the Holy Grail. Some have even made love to their Topre’s… ' [04:09]
asciilifeform ( http://www.bytecellar.com/2011/08/07/an-apparent-keyboard-geek-finally-learns-to-type ) [04:09]
assbot An Apparent Keyboard Geek Finally Learns to Type | Byte Cellar [04:09]
kakobrekla have you used it ascii? [04:11]
asciilifeform negative. [04:12]
mircea_popescu whoa [04:13]
kakobrekla the tx? [04:13]
kakobrekla its cumin from mpex [04:13]
mircea_popescu lol so basically bitbet is now sitting pretty on 30-40 btc unearned income ? [04:13]
kakobrekla at least bci sez so [04:14]
kakobrekla https://blockchain.info/tx/cefd947f657dcb436a56e1c7fa62a0f38daa7ff0057fb1fc354bfdbbc0e98c31 [04:14]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction cefd947f657dcb436a56e1c7fa62a0f38daa7ff0057fb1fc354bfdbbc0e98c31 [04:14]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla look at that, it is. [04:14]
mircea_popescu split in 1/999 too [04:16]
BingoBoingo lol so basically bitbet is now sitting pretty on 30-40 btc unearned income ? << Just imagine if people decided to fuck with BitBet by using referal links and cut that to 15 - 20 [04:18]
mircea_popescu not possibru anymoar. [04:18]
mircea_popescu they can only cut future revenue/unearned incomes [04:19]
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mircea_popescu o look, cloudflare is failing to protect blockchain.info and claiming the problem resides with blockchain info. [04:19]
mircea_popescu such assholes. wow. [04:19]
BingoBoingo they can only cut future revenue/unearned incomes << Right, the move to cut referalls from all of a bet's rake to part of it was solid [04:20]
mircea_popescu no, it's just, the bets that are already in are already in, referrals already paid and accounted for. [04:20]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 3817.19563162 * [market-last] [04:21]
BingoBoingo I know, but I mean in the future where every scam site tries to Raep BitBet referrals because it pays better than advertising [04:21]
gribble Error: "market-last" is not a valid command. [04:21]
mircea_popescu hows that go [04:21]
mircea_popescu he let em [04:21]
kakobrekla ;;calc 3817.19563162 * [ticker --last] [04:22]
gribble 1426715.03927 [04:22]
kakobrekla dun worry, it will be less million soon [04:22]
mircea_popescu o look, enough to pay for like... hookers [04:22]
mircea_popescu and blow. [04:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00074595 = 14.546 BTC [+] {2} [04:23]
mircea_popescu i like the guy's style tho. testing bitbet deposit address with one bitcoin! [04:23]
mircea_popescu like a baws! [04:23]
decimation asciilifeform: neat video [04:26]
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decimation I use a unicomp on a mac, it lacks the 'f-key' panel on the left [04:31]
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decimation those keys would be handy in emacs [04:31]
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penguirker New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/02/thank-your-lucky-trolls/ [04:37]
mircea_popescu http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2014/01/14/dogecoin-transactions-outpacing-those-in-bitcoin-heres-why-thats-not-surprising/ [04:41]
assbot Dogecoin transactions are outpacing those in bitcoin; here's why that's not surprising - The Tell - MarketWatch [04:41]
mircea_popescu ahhh, nothing quite like a little bit of historical, failed shilling. [04:41]
mircea_popescu fuck you, marketwatch. how's that egg on your face ? [04:41]
mircea_popescu is it me or is pete_d on a roll ? [04:43]
decimation press organs are about as accountable as usg 'leaders' [04:43]
mircea_popescu in that the difference is nigligible [04:44]
mircea_popescu with i from nigglet. [04:44]
decimation here is an example of them holding each other accountable http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/02/obama-attacks-fox-news-in-northwestern-speech/ [04:46]
assbot Obama Attacks Fox News In Northwestern Speech | The Daily Caller [04:46]
decimation "“But I have laid out my ideas to create more jobs and grow more wages,” Obama told students at Northwestern University following a high-dollar fundraiser for Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn. ”A true opposition party should have the courage to lay out theirs. There’s a reason fewer Republicans are preaching doom on deficits – because they’re now manageable.”" [04:46]
mircea_popescu hahaha [04:47]
decimation fox news' biggest mistake is covering this guy at all [04:47]
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mircea_popescu no dude it's funny [04:47]
BingoBoingo He's on a role [04:47]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/bBJmK6O.gif << cat managing deficits. [04:47]
thickasthieves <+[]bot> Bet placed: 999 BTC for No //// !!!! [04:48]
decimation 'lunatic leftie derps to young idiots', click here to learn more [04:48]
mircea_popescu in what sense is obama left anyway ? [04:48]
decimation well, I guess he's in favor of growing the bureaucracy [04:49]
mircea_popescu that's left ? [04:49]
mircea_popescu actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway. [04:49]
mircea_popescu seems totally bankrupt ideology. intellectually, practically... what's it stand for anymore ? [04:49]
decimation well, I would suggest that the left has so utterly dominated for so long that they have become a cartoon of themselves [04:49]
thickasthieves i have a feeling this berksire bet will be legendary past our years [04:50]
mircea_popescu more like, the derpage in charge has been nominally identified as "left" for so long. [04:50]
decimation I guess the ideological leftists are nominally in favor of the derps [04:50]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves actually, it's quite possible it's the only thing that'l even be remembered [04:50]
mircea_popescu sort-of like nobody remembers glbse, or bitcoin magazine, or w/e other derpage went on in the 2012s. [04:50]
thickasthieves so who's putting another 1k on Yes? [04:51]
mircea_popescu the thing with that is... people have waited for a while. as a result the sides are weight-unbalanced. the seed 1k on yes has a 100k weight whereas current bets only get 40k [04:51]
mircea_popescu whereas the recent 2.5k on no have 40k weight. [04:51]
mircea_popescu or 45 w/e [04:51]
mircea_popescu so the pool is like 123mn to 100mn. [04:52]
decimation it'll be awesome of btc/usd goes up another leg in the next few months and that bet becomes bigger than whatsapp [04:52]
mircea_popescu which btw... i wonder if one day the dollar value of bets will be < the pool values :D [04:52]
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BingoBoingo actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway. << Honestly as an alternative to fleeing the US staying back to oversee partitioning is becoming an attractive option [04:52]
mircea_popescu "oversee". [04:52]
mircea_popescu that's like what, overseeing the flood ? [04:52]
thickasthieves or the mines [04:52]
mircea_popescu decimation totally lol. if btc runs up to say 800 that no;ll need a shitload o' hedgin'. [04:53]
thickasthieves and/or if BRKA corrects [04:53]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Basically taking pictures, recording the lulz [04:53]
decimation BingoBoingo: except you are basically propsing that you want to surf the wave of terror to power [04:54]
decimation works out for some, not so much for otheres [04:54]
thickasthieves i have 5btc at 100k weight on Yes [04:54]
decimation at $800 the total bet is worth $3 mil [04:55]
BingoBoingo decimation: Nah, maybe I just want to see the world burn? I've got a camera. I've got a tent. By oversee I don't mean taking control, but documenting the absence of control for great lulz. [04:56]
decimation sure, sounds like fun. maybe we can 'mad max' together over the western wastes [04:57]
BingoBoingo Maybe? [04:57]
BingoBoingo One can't exactly oversee entropy in the same way one oversaw order on the plantations [04:57]
decimation http://www.virtualapple.org/oregontraildisk.html [04:58]
assbot Virtual Apple 2 - Online disk archive -- Oregon Trail [04:58]
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nubbins` i didn't bet on brk-a [05:01]
thickasthieves i have a small bet on the other side too [05:02]
nubbins` my imaginary money is on no [05:02]
nubbins` s.mg bet cleared, trying to think of ways to make next one more interesting [05:03]
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thickasthieves S.anything will have any sort of revenue [05:04]
thickasthieves sry [05:04]
thickasthieves mg or nsa [05:04]
nubbins` well i don't really have an s.nsa stock warrant sitting idle [05:04]
thickasthieves no stock for tshirts program? [05:05]
nubbins` simple job, no need to complicate w/ warrants [05:06]
thickasthieves http://www.heraldonline.com/2014/10/02/6384852_butterfly-labs-statement-on-the.html [05:11]
assbot Local news from Rock Hill, SC | The Herald [05:11]
thickasthieves they are repopening after talks with FTC [05:11]
nubbins` "labeling of the company as bogus and scammers" [05:11]
nubbins` your company is bogus and scammers! [05:11]
dub no you is [05:15]
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kakobrekla http://gizmodo.com/self-destructing-ssds-will-nuke-themselves-if-you-text-1640733628 [05:18]
assbot Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word [05:18]
kakobrekla heh [05:18]
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mats_cd03 why does freenode suck so much [05:28]
mats_cd03 i've been forced to reconnect five or six times in the last three weeks [05:29]
kakobrekla totally unacceptable [05:30]
mats_cd03 failing marks for bad uptime mates [05:30]
kakobrekla for a free service [05:30]
kakobrekla better ask your money back [05:30]
mats_cd03 i'm glad we're on the same page [05:36]
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BingoBoingo %t [05:53]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 180 Ask: 200 Last Price: 266 24h-Vol: 1k High: 266 Low: 266 VWAP: 266 [05:53]
BingoBoingo Much lulz http://www.dailystormer.com/what-i-learned-from-my-time-in-prison/ [05:57]
assbot What I Learned from My Time in Prison | Daily Stormer [05:57]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: plenty of Þorns! [06:43]
asciilifeform (or were they ðorns?) [06:43]
* asciilifeform blows dust off 'intro to norse' [06:43]
BingoBoingo Oh many many things. [06:43]
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Dimsler BingoBoingo, thats a good read [06:45]
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decimation odin doth frown upon the state of norway [06:51]
Dimsler 18 days in jail [06:52]
Dimsler for doing 50km/h over the limit [06:52]
Dimsler in norway [06:52]
Dimsler btw [06:52]
asciilifeform Oðin. [06:52]
asciilifeform Dimsler: to even own car in No, you have to be genuinely and truly loaded. [06:53]
Dimsler all those germanic places creap me the fuck out [06:53]
Dimsler as much as i love swedish girls [06:53]
Dimsler the nords are just on another planet [06:53]
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Dimsler not too sure how this hick from the ozarks is relating himself to anytype of nord valhalla anything [06:54]
mircea_popescu !up DanielKrawisz [06:58]
-assbot- You voiced DanielKrawisz for 30 minutes. [06:58]
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BingoBoingo Dimsler: My understanding of it is that in US prisons Scandanavian lore is appropriated so as to be "Whiter than the Brits" [06:58]
DanielKrawisz Oh, hello. [06:58]
mircea_popescu I've got a camera. I've got a tent. << lmao what an attitude [06:59]
DanielKrawisz I don't understand IRC very well. I'm trying to get into the WOT. [06:59]
mircea_popescu where was that wiki link [06:59]
Dimsler oh no [06:59]
Dimsler you have to get into WOW first [06:59]
Dimsler and make a character [06:59]
mircea_popescu !s first steps [06:59]
assbot 112 results for 'first steps' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=first+steps [06:59]
DanielKrawisz Thanks, I'm trying to follow this. http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [06:59]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] [06:59]
mircea_popescu right. [06:59]
Dimsler lol [07:00]
Dimsler what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute? [07:00]
Dimsler seriously are you going to be preaching the satoshibible here? [07:00]
mircea_popescu heraldonline ?! [07:01]
BingoBoingo what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute? << Recent college kids playing with the idea of an online museum [07:01]
DanielKrawisz There is no satoshi bible. [07:01]
DanielKrawisz It's living code. [07:01]
Dimsler oh like the matrix? [07:01]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz this "reddit should build on bitcoin" stuff is lulzy. [07:01]
mircea_popescu reddit isn't there to build something useful. [07:02]
Dimsler i know [07:02]
DanielKrawisz Basically, we started out as an econ discussion group at a university called the Mises Circle, but then I got everyone talking almost exclusively about bitcoin. [07:02]
mircea_popescu reddit is there to try and leech something if at all possible. sort-of like an online hot topic. [07:02]
decimation BingoBoingo: I suspect that some degree of 'white power' in prision is 'us v. them' [07:02]
DanielKrawisz And then we were like, "Wouldn't it be hilarious if we started the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute?" for a while and then we stopped making jokes about it and just did it. [07:02]
Dimsler reddit is built off cat pictures and gonewild [07:02]
Dimsler its a source of amusement, entertainment, and misinformation [07:02]
DanielKrawisz Yeah, I think reddit doesn't quite understand what they're doing. [07:02]
mircea_popescu why does freenode suck so much << because they essentially gave up ? just riding things as they are into the night, as it were. [07:03]
Dimsler a pascification of the proletariat [07:03]
Dimsler DanielKrawisz, they fully understand what they are doing [07:03]
DanielKrawisz Oh, they are doing a deliberate pump and dump? [07:03]
Dimsler no [07:04]
Dimsler they are doing what cryptographics has made popular [07:04]
Dimsler there own digital currency [07:04]
mircea_popescu seriously are you going to be preaching the satoshibible here? <<< unlike 99% of the derps derping about bitcoin, i don't recall these folks saying anything infuriatingly stupid. [07:04]
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DanielKrawisz Oh yeah, we always complain about the stupidity over in our group too. [07:05]
Dimsler mircea_popescu, he called it the nakamoto institute [07:05]
BingoBoingo I've got a camera. I've got a tent. << lmao what an attitude << Given the alternatives in Usaschwitz, that Thompson guy found an interesting defense against the Feds with his selectively unreliable narration. [07:05]
Dimsler how is that not initself infuriating [07:05]
mircea_popescu so what's in a name. [07:05]
mircea_popescu i dunno, it doesn't get me. it doesn't have bit into it. [07:05]
Dimsler ugh [07:06]
mircea_popescu if it were the nakabit insticoin it'd have been more annoying. course also lulzier. [07:06]
mircea_popescu especially if the bad instigation puns started flowing., [07:06]
DanielKrawisz Well we wanted to use that name because we agreed that a lot of the bitcoin world was trying to downplay him. [07:06]
Dimsler people that put bit or coin into anything should be publically flogged [07:06]
mircea_popescu you mean cryptopublically bitflogged ? [07:06]
DanielKrawisz Hahaha [07:06]
Dimsler DanielKrawisz, because cryptographics was not invented by him [07:06]
Dimsler and cryptographic based currencies and other online currencies have been around since digicash [07:07]
Dimsler which was like 1989 [07:07]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz that's unavoidable. it's the nature of the ignorant twerps making up the us horde, to overplay their own narcisism against history. [07:07]
DanielKrawisz Digicash is very different from bitcoin. [07:07]
mircea_popescu i'm surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler, back in iowa or something [07:07]
DanielKrawisz It's a money substitute, like a bank note. I'm writing a paper on this stuff now. [07:07]
mircea_popescu Dimsler get outta here. [07:07]
Dimsler lol [07:07]
mircea_popescu this is like saying cars have been around since 1600 because oxcarts. [07:07]
DanielKrawisz Haha, indeed. [07:07]
mircea_popescu there is exactly zero continuity between bitcoin and all the idiotic derpage prior. [07:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler << americans used to. huey p. long was supposed to be 'original hitler' [07:08]
Dimsler DanielKrawisz, can you write about how satoshi didn't understand economics and based his theory on murray rothbards teachings [07:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform right you are, huh. [07:08]
mircea_popescu Dimsler wouldja stop trying to drive people into a wall deliberately. [07:08]
DanielKrawisz Then there were some proposals for digital collectibles; b-money, RPOW, and bit gold. Those things were an important step forward, but RPOW was the only one ever implemented, and it didn't take off. I don't think they would have worked. Bitcoin fixed a lot of stuff that they got wrong. [07:08]
Dimsler lol ok ok [07:08]
mircea_popescu yeah, like, penicillin fixed a lot of stuff shaman cures got wrong. [07:09]
mircea_popescu let's be clear here : wanting something, no matter how intensively, is NOT grounds for relation with the thing once made. [07:09]
Dimsler DanielKrawisz, quantitative monetary theory [07:09]
Dimsler i'll leave that with you [07:09]
* asciilifeform has yet to meet a p2p derpatronics experimented from '95-'05 era who -didn't- have own secret pseudo-bitcoin at the time [07:09]
mircea_popescu this is the difference between invention and daydreaming, something my mother explained to me when i was like 6 [07:09]
Dimsler to dwell on [07:09]
asciilifeform *experimenter [07:10]
mircea_popescu and i wanted to know if when someone invents something, they have to also say how it's to be made [07:10]
DanielKrawisz Well Bitcoin used a lot of elements and ideas from the digital collectibles, so I think there is some continutity, but it's very innovative too. [07:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you mean then, or now ? [07:10]
asciilifeform then. [07:10]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz zero elements. i challenge you, list one such [07:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform bs. [07:10]
asciilifeform and in very dire cases - now [07:10]
DanielKrawisz Ok Dimsler [07:10]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler << americans used to. huey p. long was supposed to be 'original hitler' << Long himself had a prototype in William Jennings Bryant [07:11]
Dimsler i thought chaplin was the original hitler? [07:11]
mircea_popescu i dunno what huey long is supposed to be other than a sort of us peron. [07:11]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: mr mold fessed up to having had something in that vein. and at one point i did. (neither very interesting) [07:11]
Dimsler moustache and all [07:11]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what;'s the meaning of "in that vein" ? [07:11]
mircea_popescu because in 1985 i had something "in the vein" of the ipad. [07:11]
mircea_popescu needless to say... i'm no twinkletwerps. [07:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: attempt at solving basic problem of the 'martian bank' [07:12]
asciilifeform !s martian bank [07:12]
mircea_popescu attempt ? orly ? [07:12]
assbot 0 results for 'martian bank' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=martian+bank [07:12]
asciilifeform hm [07:12]
asciilifeform !s lunar bank [07:12]
mircea_popescu well done. you know who else ? some guy at the time of the invention of the wheel [07:12]
assbot 0 results for 'lunar bank' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=lunar+bank [07:12]
asciilifeform damn [07:12]
mircea_popescu attempts are no qualification. i attempted to prove fermat's theorem, too [07:12]
Dimsler i could probably argue that humanity would be far better off if they hadn't invented the wheel [07:12]
asciilifeform that was precisely the kind of thing meant. [07:12]
mircea_popescu does not mean i had something in the vein of the complex set theory that eventualy did it. [07:12]
Dimsler probably even happier too [07:12]
asciilifeform just observing that a mathematically-inclined boy is of course going to try to prove flt. [07:13]
mircea_popescu sure. [07:13]
mircea_popescu o also, i attempted to bring a dead girl back. [07:13]
mircea_popescu which i guess makes me something in the vein of jesus ? [07:13]
Dimsler hey thats possible now [07:13]
asciilifeform how dead ? [07:13]
Dimsler i heard 16hrs after the heart stops beating [07:13]
Dimsler if you cool down the body [07:13]
mircea_popescu Dimsler not after her blood's sorted by weight [07:13]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ^ that dead. [07:14]
asciilifeform lol [07:14]
asciilifeform parachute didn't open ? [07:14]
mircea_popescu long story. [07:14]
* asciilifeform would probably enjoy this story [07:14]
mircea_popescu when we're in prison, if we end up in the same cell, gladly. [07:14]
DanielKrawisz You can read my paper when it's done. [07:14]
asciilifeform lol [07:14]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz link it here, someone prolly will. [07:15]
Dimsler DanielKrawisz, are you on here via mobile device? [07:15]
DanielKrawisz No, why? [07:15]
Dimsler nothing just wondering [07:15]
mircea_popescu cause he doesn't understand how ip allocation works. [07:15]
Dimsler lol no? [07:15]
Dimsler could easily be on wifi [07:16]
mircea_popescu Dimsler seen a lot of mobile devices on times warner cable ? [07:16]
Dimsler he could have a router at home, and talking on his ipad [07:16]
mircea_popescu sure. [07:16]
Dimsler he was capitalizing each fresh sentence [07:16]
Dimsler hence why i asked [07:16]
mircea_popescu That's just good interneting! [07:17]
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decimation !up DanielKrawisz_ [07:18]
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DanielKrawisz_ Oh dang it. [07:18]
DanielKrawisz_ Well I guess I'll have to complete the process later. [07:18]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz_ you know this julia turianski chick ? [07:19]
DanielKrawisz_ Never heard of her. [07:19]
Dimsler lol [07:19]
Dimsler surprise surprise [07:19]
mircea_popescu a ok. [07:19]
mircea_popescu http://www.linkedin.com/pub/daniel-krawisz/21/bb1/323 << you know that's like, the worst cv i ever saw on linkedin btw ? [07:20]
DanielKrawisz_ Oh, she did 26 ways to be a bitcoin hater? [07:20]
DanielKrawisz_ Yeah, that was pretty funny. [07:20]
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DanielKrawisz_ What's wrong with my linkedin cv? [07:20]
mircea_popescu fellow canuckian, thinks she knows everybody. [07:20]
Dimsler no hes texan [07:21]
Dimsler hes just behind his colo now [07:21]
mircea_popescu o you gotta be kidding me. videogame developer 2012-2012, "research director" at nowhere, 2014-onwards ? [07:21]
mircea_popescu dja have any idea how that looks to business eyes ? [07:21]
DanielKrawisz_ No, I've never done any business. [07:21]
decimation yeah um is that a paid position? [07:21]
Dimsler none of these look like paid anything [07:21]
Dimsler I teach bitcoiners about the implications of Bitcoin so as to alter their behavior in a way that improves the overall health of the Bitcoin network. [07:22]
Dimsler lol can you teach us? [07:22]
Dimsler i thirst for knowledge about how to keep my monies healthy [07:22]
DanielKrawisz_ Are you just trying to get in an argument with me or something? [07:23]
mircea_popescu which one of us ? [07:23]
DanielKrawisz_ Dimsler, sorry. [07:23]
mircea_popescu i think he's just being jadedly nihilistic. [07:24]
DanielKrawisz_ Oh ok. Well good for him. [07:24]
mircea_popescu meh, that thing's like humour. works a lot better if unexpected. [07:25]
Dimsler hey i'd burn everything [07:25]
Dimsler down to the ground [07:25]
Dimsler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-M4WXov2lM [07:25]
mircea_popescu fucking on a pile of ash is unconducive. [07:25]
assbot Down to the gwound - YouTube [07:25]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz_ anyway, get into wot so i can rate you so you can selfvoice [07:28]
decimation DanielKrawisz_: I'm kinda serious, how do you make money 'researching bitcoin'? people gotta eat right? [07:28]
Dimsler DanielKrawisz_, you have been an academic for 15yrs? [07:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01079964 = 0.54 BTC [-] {3} [07:29]
mircea_popescu decimation unless he's married, he doesn't actually have to ever work in the us. you know this, right ? [07:29]
Dimsler i'm not sure if some of these articles contain the eloquence of someone with a masters in physics [07:30]
mircea_popescu "Alternative Right’s Colin Liddell Attacks Andrew Anglin for Defending Robert Ransdell Against RamZPaul 332 comments" [07:30]
mircea_popescu holy shit on a stick, 4 people i never heard of ?! and likely nobody has ? [07:31]
mircea_popescu incredible. [07:31]
DanielKrawisz_ ;;eregester DanielKrawisz 26AB 6711 E032 5283 DBC0 C8BA 101B BC10 F86C 4A64 [07:31]
gribble Error: "eregester" is not a valid command. [07:31]
decimation ah you mean the sabu route [07:31]
DanielKrawisz_ ;;eregister DanielKrawisz 26AB 6711 E032 5283 DBC0 C8BA 101B BC10 F86C 4A64 [07:31]
gribble Error: '26AB' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. [07:31]
mircea_popescu "If Kentuckians write-in Robert Ransdell as their choice for Senator in the 2014 election they will support my plan to fix America by pursuing the ..." bla bla bla. write-in candidates for kentucky elections ?! holy shit, it's almost as if... i dunno, my similes fail me. i don't have something for this nonsense. [07:32]
Dimsler DanielKrawisz_, can you privately message gribble instead? [07:32]
mircea_popescu Dimsler let him be, this way we can help him debug [07:32]
Duffer1 you can /query gribble [07:32]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz_ eregIster [07:32]
mircea_popescu and no spaces. [07:32]
DanielKrawisz_ Yeah, I spelled it wrong. [07:32]
Duffer1 no spaces in key [07:32]
Dimsler k [07:32]
DanielKrawisz_ ;;eregister DanielKrawisz 101BBC10F86C4A64 [07:33]
gribble Request successful for user DanielKrawisz, hostmask DanielKrawisz_!~quassel@184.75.223.42. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/101BBC10F86C4A64 [07:33]
mircea_popescu Robert Ransdell is running for U.S. Senate in Kentucky with the campaign slogan 'With Jews We Lose.' [07:33]
mircea_popescu o.O [07:33]
Dimsler LOL [07:34]
Dimsler fuck [07:34]
mircea_popescu check out the mfas : http://www.cincinnati.com/ http://www.courier-journal.com/ etc [07:34]
assbot Cincinnati Enquirer [07:34]
assbot Louisville News, Sports, Business | The Courier-Journal [07:34]
Dimsler i can't read american publications [07:35]
Dimsler literary filth at best [07:35]
mircea_popescu http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/florence/2014/09/26/bagelman-bites-back-at-anti-semitic-candidate/16283169/ << total fucking lol of all time. [07:35]
assbot Bagelman bites back at anti-semitic candidate [07:35]
mircea_popescu "I wanted to reach out to the community," said Marx, who is Catholic. "We had an over-run of challah for the New Year, and we gave them away." << lmao. [07:36]
mircea_popescu such smallness. i had no idea there's so much tiny at hand. [07:36]
decimation middle america is routinely mocked by the elites on the coasts [07:37]
mircea_popescu apparently it's being mocked by the elites abroad, too. [07:37]
Duffer1 and by reasonable people the world over [07:37]
mircea_popescu but seriously, this derp can't stand for middle anything. [07:37]
decimation he's a derp, no doubt, highlighted by the local lefties [07:37]
decimation kulaks gotta be dekulaked and all [07:38]
mircea_popescu the most he could stand for would be perhaps a brand of goth from one particular hs. they were doing hitler that year. [07:38]
Dimsler you guys see the irony here right? [07:39]
mircea_popescu "He's a very bad person," said Heidi Beirich, director of the intelligence project at the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., which tracks hate groups. << actually, heidi is the bad person here. [07:39]
Dimsler his last name is marx [07:39]
decimation 'nazi' crap is a particular chumpatron that the dumb stumble into [07:39]
decimation might as well label themselves "I am a kulak, crush my shit" [07:39]
DanielKrawisz_ Ok, I got in. [07:40]
mircea_popescu ;;ident DanielKrawisz_ [07:40]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'DanielKrawisz_', with hostmask 'DanielKrawisz_!~quassel@184.75.223.42', is identified as user 'DanielKrawisz', with GPG key id 101BBC10F86C4A64, key fingerprint 26AB6711E0325283DBC0C8BA101BBC10F86C4A64, and bitcoin address None [07:40]
decimation she thinks that her job is to help 'disadvantaged' people but her actual job is to maintain the "no enemies to the left" chumpatron [07:40]
mircea_popescu ;;rate DanielKrawisz_ 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy. [07:41]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. [07:41]
mircea_popescu eh get out. [07:41]
DanielKrawisz_ Thanks. [07:41]
decimation DanielKrawisz_: it didn't work [07:42]
mircea_popescu ;;rate DanielKrawisz_ 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy. [07:42]
gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. [07:42]
decimation ;;ident DanielKrawisz_ [07:42]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'DanielKrawisz_', with hostmask 'DanielKrawisz_!~quassel@184.75.223.42', is identified as user 'DanielKrawisz', with GPG key id 101BBC10F86C4A64, key fingerprint 26AB6711E0325283DBC0C8BA101BBC10F86C4A64, and bitcoin address None [07:42]
Dimsler hes not in [07:42]
mircea_popescu ;;rate DanielKrawisz 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy. [07:42]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DanielKrawisz has been recorded. [07:42]
DanielKrawisz_ That's quite a complement. [07:43]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz_ in the future you auth with gribble and pm assbot !up [07:43]
DanielKrawisz_ I got logged off so now I have an underscore at the end of my name. [07:43]
Dimsler ./nick [07:43]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz_ i infuriate easily. [07:43]
decimation yeah that's an irc thing [07:43]
Dimsler but hes also easily amused! [07:43]
mircea_popescu i have all the requisite qualities of senile dementia [07:44]
mircea_popescu now i just gotta meet the age qual. [07:44]
Dimsler too much flouride in the drinking water [07:44]
mircea_popescu not here. [07:44]
Dimsler ohhh [07:44]
Dimsler how are you liking argentina? [07:44]
mircea_popescu they can;'t afford fluoride so they have to rub wooden sticks together [07:44]
mircea_popescu i love argentina [07:44]
mircea_popescu o which reminds me i was going to post some pics [07:44]
Dimsler fuck thats exactly where i belong [07:44]
DanielKrawisz_ Originally I was going to be a physics professor but there are a lot of things about professional physics academics that are a lot less fun than the physics, so I dropped out. [07:45]
Dimsler i gotta pack my shit down there [07:45]
Dimsler DanielKrawisz_, so you started studying economics? [07:45]
mircea_popescu DanielKrawisz_ originally i was going to be a physicist. [07:45]
mircea_popescu but i actually had more sense than that at about 16. [07:45]
Dimsler lol [07:45]
decimation DanielKrawisz_: the general feeling here is that academia in the us is a bureaucracy that has little to do with actually advancing human knowledge/technology [07:45]
Dimsler lawyer here [07:45]
DanielKrawisz_ Cool. [07:45]
mircea_popescu Dimsler orly ? what do you practice ? [07:46]
Dimsler oh nothing now [07:46]
mircea_popescu what did you practice. [07:46]
Dimsler nothing we were talking about schooling [07:46]
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mircea_popescu that's not a lawyer now is it. [07:46]
DanielKrawisz_ Yeah, academics is a leisure activity, and there's kind of a conflict when it becomes professional. [07:46]
Dimsler no way left lawschool [07:47]
Dimsler now i spend my days spinning in a chair really [07:47]
mircea_popescu if a girl did that they'd call her a slut. [07:47]
Dimsler see [07:47]
Dimsler actually i left law school to program algorhythms for automated trading systems [07:48]
decimation well, there's certainly a conflict of interest between "researching physics" and "maintaining a career in physics" [07:48]
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Dimsler msg assbot !up [07:48]
Dimsler to up yourlse [07:48]
mircea_popescu decimation myeah, actual science is for rich people, not for clerks. [07:49]
Dimsler just like BA studies are [07:49]
mircea_popescu people who hope to make their living at science can not be considered scientists. that should be the first crtierion on the peer review process. "independently wealthy ?" if no, can not participate in science. [07:50]
bounce with nice hand-blown instruments in brass cases! [07:50]
mircea_popescu this seems obvious enough with say, love. people who hope to earn a living at it can't really make very good lovers. [07:50]
decimation mainly because they have the 'free time' that asciilifeform desires [07:50]
mircea_popescu yet somehow when it leaves that realm everyone's suddenly confused. [07:50]
decimation probably the same thing with medicine too [07:51]
mircea_popescu with the independent professions it becomes more iffy. doctors and lawyers earned their keep doing the job for centuries without ill effect. [07:51]
Dimsler medicine is such nigger work [07:51]
mircea_popescu for just as long as they depended for pay on their own customers. [07:51]
bounce plenty scientists have done so on sufferance of the local lord, no reason why they couldn't do it on sufferance of the government [07:51]
mircea_popescu once they started being paid by corporations / the state, it all went to shit. [07:51]
Dimsler i don't know a single non-american doctor who isn't miserable [07:52]
mircea_popescu bounce name one. [07:52]
mircea_popescu Dimsler i know plenty. [07:52]
decimation as the link I put up yesterday explained, most doctors did more to hurt than heal before 1900, the 'talented amateur' was the local nurse lady who would try to keep you comfortable [07:52]
bounce pfft. too early to do the research. [07:52]
mircea_popescu bounce then allow me to use this opportunity to expose before your eyes your own automatism. [07:52]
mircea_popescu what other places is it operant ? [07:53]
Dimsler problem with being a scientifist in todays modern age is you aren't working from home [07:53]
Dimsler you're stuck in academia [07:53]
mircea_popescu decimation dubious theory, but anyway. [07:53]
Dimsler very dubious [07:53]
mircea_popescu generally the problem is that people ascribe the benefits of santiation to medicine. this is false. [07:53]
mircea_popescu actual doctors today are about as hacky/harmful as they were cca 1714. [07:54]
Dimsler correct [07:54]
mircea_popescu mostly because the problem they face is so complex. [07:54]
Duffer1 speaking of dr, that coffee was a big hit, thanks for the suggestion MP [07:54]
decimation yeah I would say that's probably true in most cases [07:54]
mircea_popescu Duffer1 cheers. [07:55]
Dimsler which coffee? [07:55]
decimation until someone can give an engineering-level account of the human body and all its processes, it's gonna stay that way [07:55]
Duffer1 nurse gifts, 3lbs of primo coffee per shift [07:55]
Duffer1 and for dr [07:55]
mircea_popescu decimation you can appreciate the shittyness of it, right ? suppose you were given the task of fixing code you may not read running on a one of a kind processor you don't even have the spec for. [07:55]
mircea_popescu and then blamed you for the results, but praised "nature" for the success. [07:56]
decimation yeah, it's a delicate microstructure and your tools are basically 'hammer' and 'sledge' [07:56]
Dimsler well i mean todays operations are much much cleaner [07:56]
mircea_popescu OR you could pour yogurt over it and see [07:56]
mircea_popescu THREE!!! three choices! [07:56]
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asciilifeform problem of definitions. [07:58]
asciilifeform 'doctor' is - cleanup crew. [07:59]
mircea_popescu aren;t they all. [07:59]
asciilifeform example. say room-temperature supercons appear. [07:59]
asciilifeform then everyone with some money can scan himself when he wakes up, right after toilet, for malignant growths. [07:59]
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asciilifeform say +10 lifespan, whatever. who gets credit? [07:59]
asciilifeform doctors? nope [08:00]
asciilifeform similar to sanitation example. [08:00]
decimation asciilifeform: the scanner would have to see down the molecules to determine malignancy in-situ [08:00]
mircea_popescu i doubt malignancies are the main problem. i think the main problem of medicine today is still metabolism [08:00]
mircea_popescu mirroring exactly the situation in the times of mr h. [08:01]
asciilifeform decimation: not necessarily. just monitor for out-of-place masses, would go a long way. [08:01]
asciilifeform consider, elsewhere: [08:01]
mircea_popescu three thousand years and uncountable changes in everything later. [08:01]
asciilifeform firemen get (and deserve) no credit for the relative incombustibility of modern dwellings compared to those of the past. [08:01]
Dimsler lol the past? [08:01]
Dimsler you mean like [08:01]
Dimsler concrete? [08:01]
asciilifeform pre-concrete [08:01]
mircea_popescu actually... i think us houses are the most combustible things ever in the history of dwellings. [08:02]
Dimsler there was firemen pre-concrete? [08:02]
asciilifeform (if you must, old japan vs. current) [08:02]
mircea_popescu Dimsler firemen have as much history as the french. [08:02]
Dimsler yeah like the combustable house and obsession with firemen is a north american thing [08:02]
decimation well, loads of bureaucrats have been harassing people to spray various dubious fireproofing chemicals on everything [08:02]
asciilifeform Dimsler: nope. in japan, far greater obsession even. [08:02]
mircea_popescu yeah but in japan they have cause. [08:02]
Dimsler yeah i know [08:02]
asciilifeform paper houses. just like present-day usa. [08:02]
asciilifeform poor countries are much alike. [08:03]
mircea_popescu problem i nthe usa isn't as much the per se combustibility, more like, all the evil shit sandwiched in there [08:03]
mircea_popescu fumes will kill you before the fire even warms you a little [08:03]
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Dimsler so canucky in here [08:04]
* asciilifeform is reminded to buy current gas mask canisters [08:04]
decimation yeah modern us house is basically sawdust mixed with various kinds of glue [08:04]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski you know if you first join as d.shawcable.net the entire cloak thing loses its point [08:04]
Dimsler LOL [08:04]
bounce so newton, leibniz, van leeuwenhoek all held convenient government positions. not quite getting paid for science directly, but not quite independently wealthy either [08:04]
mircea_popescu bounce lord newton ? [08:04]
mircea_popescu you have got to be kidding me, srsly. [08:04]
decimation 'government' was quite a different thing then though [08:04]
mircea_popescu that's your "not independently wealthy" example ?! [08:04]
mircea_popescu a wealthy lord with a de jure mp seat ? [08:05]
asciilifeform 'independent' here just means you're funded via something other than science-as-day-job [08:05]
asciilifeform not necessarily mega-empire [08:05]
asciilifeform if i understand. [08:05]
mircea_popescu just add lavoisier to the list and we can call it a day eh. [08:05]
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decimation ie they didn't have to worry about food & basic human needs [08:05]
decimation or fourier [08:05]
mircea_popescu decimation more on point : they could tell the sovereign to get fucked [08:05]
mircea_popescu and on occasion actually did. [08:06]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/10/darkcoin-value-drops-while-going-open-source/ [08:06]
assbot Darkcoin: Value Drops while going Open Source [08:06]
mircea_popescu i would very much like to see current day "scientist" telling obama to get the fuck lost. [08:06]
bounce ``Newton moved to London to take up the post of warden of the Royal Mint in 1696, a position that he had obtained through the patronage of Charles Montagu, 1st Earl of Halifax, then Chancellor of the Exchequer.'' [08:06]
mircea_popescu anyone recall greenspun's retelling of whatever imperial visit ? [08:06]
Dimsler but i thought obama was there leader? [08:06]
asciilifeform pu yi? [08:06]
decimation they exist, but there are at least 10 layers of fat bureaucrats between obama and the truth-knowers [08:06]
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mircea_popescu btw, since he got mentioned : newton ended up the author of the gold standard in the western world. [08:09]
mircea_popescu he wrote some report, people took it seriously [08:09]
asciilifeform the pyx! [08:09]
decimation "the hlls are tall an the emperor is far away" [08:09]
asciilifeform (beautifully portrayed in n. stephenson's 'baroque cycle' epic.) [08:09]
asciilifeform http://www.royalmint.com/discover/uk-coins/history-of-the-trial-of-the-pyx [08:10]
assbot History of the Trial of the Pyx | The Royal Mint [08:10]
decimation the clerks in the bank of england thought they could use 'one weird trick' to materialize gold from thin air [08:11]
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BingoBoingo decimation> the clerks in the bank of england thought they could use 'one weird trick' to materialize gold from thin air << To the extend Geography poses a challenge to verification they could pretend [08:12]
decimation one problem being that once the sovereign decides that insolvency is the new solvent it gives leave for everyone else to do so, especially using the king's scrip [08:14]
pete_dushenski_ mircea_popescu: v. good point about the shaw thing. i'm logging on from a different comp and i don't quite have the flow sorted on this one. [08:14]
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asciilifeform insolvency is the new solvent << hunger is the new delicacy. and then let's all make backyard steel. [08:15]
pete_dushenski_ mircea_popescu: is it me or is pete_d on a roll ? << and i think it's just you :D [08:15]
Dimsler lol [08:15]
decimation this 'trial of the pyx' is hilarious [08:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17598 @ 0.00074125 = 13.0445 BTC [-] {2} [08:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "whoredom is the new chastity". see, this one works. [08:16]
mircea_popescu the key is to stick to the human, rather than the real. [08:16]
decimation surely serious men must find it extremely silly to sit around and pretend that nickel coated zinc is worth a shit [08:16]
Dimsler uh [08:16]
Dimsler lol [08:16]
Dimsler vs a string of numbers? [08:17]
Dimsler its worth what you choose it to be worth [08:17]
asciilifeform 'Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection: 'For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do you suppose [08:17]
asciilifeform it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?' ' [08:17]
asciilifeform (re: stick to the human) [08:17]
pete_dushenski_ strp: no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with. << classic wilyotp (walk in like you own the place). gotta love the endless supply of such thinking. [08:19]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski_ it's mostly recycled. [08:19]
asciilifeform endless supply << it's the same hero, with at least 5 names [08:19]
decimation it works for him because he understands physics like a high schooler except 300 years ago [08:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00074248 = 12.8449 BTC [+] [08:20]
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mircea_popescu lmao [08:20]
mircea_popescu i didn't know decimation could bite. [08:20]
decimation i have my moments [08:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i propose my objection is better grounded than that. [08:22]
pete_dushenski_ assbot: Farrakhan claims Ebola invented to kill off blacks | Fox News << i always thought that was aids' job... [08:22]
mircea_popescu specifically : when dealing with an item, trying harder is for when things work, and trying something else when things don't work. [08:22]
mircea_popescu when dealing with a woman... apparently, the opposite! [08:22]
Dimsler such irrational creatures [08:23]
mircea_popescu no u. [08:23]
pete_dushenski_ lol [08:23]
Dimsler me too [08:23]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2014/10/keeping-bitcoin-is-a-hard-problem/ << o look at that ?! [08:25]
assbot Keeping Bitcoin is a Hard Problem [08:25]
mircea_popescu is this the cazalla-BingoBoingo adventure ? [08:25]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It is indeed [08:25]
mircea_popescu don't go all lyrical & philosophical on people now. you got oyur blogs for that. stick to facts and practice good journalism [08:26]
mircea_popescu to inform and enlighten! [08:26]
BingoBoingo Noted [08:27]
decimation you know what orwell missed was that you didn't really need "Big Brother" to convince everyone that the digits/zinc is worth anything - you just need 'the people' to have a 'stake' in the success of the graft and they will 'big brother' themselves [08:27]
Dimsler a murder of crows [08:27]
mircea_popescu there is no such thing as "the people" any more than there are "women" or "blacks" or "jews" or "strippers" or "sluts" or "coeds" or so forth [08:28]
Dimsler fucking jews [08:28]
mircea_popescu it's fun, if you get the right ones. [08:28]
bounce so why does english have different names for groups of animals and then specify the animal anyway? [08:30]
mircea_popescu a sedge o' bitterns ; a sounder o' boar ; a blush o' boys ; a bellowing o' bullfinches ; a draught o' butlers. [08:31]
Dimsler because english is an aweful language [08:31]
Dimsler its a bastardization of germanic latin and french [08:31]
mircea_popescu bounce because venery. [08:31]
mircea_popescu you familiar with the ever elusive snipe ? [08:31]
Dimsler mmm snipe [08:31]
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bounce tried to hunt it by myself once, no dice. [08:32]
Dimsler thats the joke [08:33]
mircea_popescu right. for many years men gathered together, trying with their humble powers to implement as much of a bitcoin-assets as possible. [08:33]
Dimsler you can never catch one [08:33]
mircea_popescu not much was possible throughout much of that history, but the idea still nevertheless recognisably remains. [08:33]
asciilifeform where and how might one expect to meet 'draught o' butlers' !? what's next, 'a slurp of supernovae' ? [08:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform conceivably supernovae would be more like a cough than a slurp [08:34]
mircea_popescu you mean a slurp o' black holes ? [08:34]
asciilifeform 'a clutter of cunts' ? [08:34]
Dimsler oh thats a funny one [08:34]
mircea_popescu n o, that's a smatter. [08:34]
* asciilifeform not pro [08:35]
Dimsler no i think its a clutter [08:35]
mircea_popescu as in, o honey, 'sthematter ? [08:35]
mircea_popescu "her tits aren't really that much bigger, it's the light." [08:35]
BingoBoingo 'a bounce of tits' [08:36]
mircea_popescu hear hear [08:36]
asciilifeform 'a tiling of tits' [08:36]
mircea_popescu hm, also. [08:37]
mircea_popescu why is the boob forever cursed with ambigous multinominity ? [08:37]
asciilifeform student exercise; tile the plane with... [08:37]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-incredulous-photographer-and-the-subjects-of-his-incredulity/ [08:37]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know i famously proposed this once ? [08:37]
mircea_popescu lemme tell you all about it! [08:37]
asciilifeform !? [08:37]
mircea_popescu before womanly assembly i took my magisterial pose [08:37]
mircea_popescu that suits me so [08:37]
mircea_popescu and proceeded to proclaim that perhaps the best example of society marginalising women known to anthropology is [08:38]
mircea_popescu that no natural measurement of length works as the distance between the nipples [08:38]
mircea_popescu and yet, if you think of it, there should! they're like natural calipers. [08:38]
mircea_popescu took them a good five minutes to figure out the whole thing;s a snipe. [08:38]
decimation a bit wobbly as a ruler don't you think? [08:39]
mircea_popescu plus they vary a lot by measurer. [08:39]
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mircea_popescu plus... you know... who wants to put her nipple on random tihngs. [08:39]
mircea_popescu etc. [08:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the chap on the bike had grinding wheel ? [08:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yup [08:40]
mircea_popescu THAT is sustainability, the real kind. [08:40]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: we had these. [08:40]
mircea_popescu think he'll ever starve ? i don't. [08:40]
decimation it would demean women to treat them as objects to measure, rather than measure as objects [08:40]
mircea_popescu decimation you know what an inch originally was right ? or a foot [08:41]
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asciilifeform the real neato is that: that bike converts. [08:41]
asciilifeform for quick getaway. to normal bike. [08:41]
asciilifeform (look at rear wheel & the pulley scheme) [08:41]
mircea_popescu or for that matter the latin excloppus [08:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yup [08:41]
decimation I thought it was related to the pace? [08:42]
decimation the foot anyway [08:42]
mircea_popescu yeah. and the inch to the hand. [08:42]
decimation asciilifeform: I have one of those folding bikes, it is pretty compact (but heavy and ungainly) when folded [08:43]
mircea_popescu (thumb knuckle to tip) [08:43]
asciilifeform phun phact. old russian unit of measure, 'вершок' (vershok) ~= 'lengthling' - approximately was equal to length of upper half of index finger. and it lives today! in every server room. last imperial вершок is precisely 1U of cabinet. [08:44]
decimation heh interesting [08:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform in romanian, vershook, fershtook = fubar. [08:46]
mircea_popescu i guess it means "a russian guy measured this, throw it away" [08:46]
* asciilifeform measured own finger, correct to 1% ! [08:47]
* asciilifeform throws away finger. it stays attached. [08:47]
mircea_popescu lol [08:47]
decimation I suspect rack units acquired their height from the ability to reach into that space with a hand [08:48]
mircea_popescu decimation likely yah [08:48]
asciilifeform decimation: yes. [08:48]
* asciilifeform can always tell who did a tour of duty as a sysop in this, among other, ways. [08:48]
decimation yeah, one learns that it's best to wear 'mechanics gloves' while handling sharp metal boxes [08:49]
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decimation pediwiki: The term relay rack appeared first in the world of telephony.[2] By 1911, the term was also being used in railroad signaling.[3] There is little evidence that the dimensions of these early racks were standardized. The 19-inch rack format with rack-units of 1.75 inches and holes tapped for 12-24 screws with alternating spacings of 1.25 inches and 0.5 inch was an established standard by 1934.[4] The EIA standard was revised [08:49]
decimation again in 1992 to comply with the 1988 public law 100-418, setting the standard U as 44.5mm (15.9mm + 15.9mm + 12.7mm), making each "U" officially 1.752 inches.[5] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19-inch_rack [08:49]
decimation apparently it's 1.75 + 2 mil - probably to fit the shelving [08:50]
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mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Spider_and_fly_April_2008-6.jpg <<< check out the nature porn. [08:55]
pete_dushenski_ kakobrekla: ever used topre ? << great! nao i kinda want one. [08:56]
mircea_popescu psycho fly guy got a pretty sweet setup there. one date only. [08:56]
pete_dushenski_ mircea_popescu: that's one sneaky spider. [08:56]
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mircea_popescu "don't worry about not being on the pill, honey. i got a yellow contraceptor." [08:57]
pete_dushenski_ that fly's a semi-necro. maybe that's only half-weird. [08:57]
mircea_popescu maybe the poison makes the contractions better. [08:58]
pete_dushenski_ probably less pulsing and more just one looooong squeeeeeeze. [08:59]
mircea_popescu who's to know. [08:59]
pete_dushenski_ mircea_popescu: just landed on http://trilema.com/2014/people-have-made-blogs/ and noticed that it could use an update vis-a-vis "bitcoinpete" being retired as such [08:59]
assbot People have made blogs pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [08:59]
mircea_popescu a yes. [08:59]
pete_dushenski_ could also use the addition of hanbot? [09:00]
pete_dushenski_ and turkish toilets are still a thing, last i checked... in tokyo. [09:01]
mircea_popescu i never been to tokio [09:01]
pete_dushenski_ aha! so you haven't been everywhere... [09:03]
mircea_popescu done! [09:04]
* pete_dushenski_ wonders what other corners of the world he's explored that mircea_popescu hasn't. [09:04]
mircea_popescu i've ne ver been to canada either [09:04]
mircea_popescu well, briefly, out of nh, but anyway [09:04]
pete_dushenski_ mircea_popescu: thx for updating! [09:05]
pete_dushenski_ ok, so canada is 1. have you been to other parts of japan? [09:05]
mircea_popescu other parts of japan other than canada ? [09:06]
pete_dushenski_ well, let's stick with countries [09:06]
pete_dushenski_ 1. canada [09:06]
pete_dushenski_ 2. japan? [09:06]
mircea_popescu my forays into asia have been limited to crossing the bosphorus. [09:07]
pete_dushenski_ a ok. so we can add 2. japan, 3. china, 4. hk, 5. vietnam, 6. thailand, 7. s. korea :) [09:08]
pete_dushenski_ 8. singapore. [09:09]
pete_dushenski_ i imagine i don't have any parts of europe to add to that list. [09:09]
pete_dushenski_ and the famous pyramid-horse pic says you've been to egypt. [09:10]
mircea_popescu i've been pretty much everywhere the empire ever went. [09:10]
mircea_popescu which means you can add all of the black africa too [09:11]
pete_dushenski_ being the roman? [09:11]
pete_dushenski_ have you been to israel? [09:11]
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mircea_popescu well yeah [09:11]
pete_dushenski_ in south america i've been to colombia and brazil. also visited most of central america, mexico, and a solid chunk of the caribbean islands. [09:14]
pete_dushenski_ but... never lived anywhere else. [09:14]
mircea_popescu yeah, i tend to do more intensive sort of travels. [09:14]
mircea_popescu "2. We improve the economy by attacking without mercy the concept of globalism, eliminating all foreign aid to non-White third world nations, all nations controlled by Zionist interests, and first and foremost eliminate all aid to Israel, also end all domestic aid and handouts to non-Whites, and finally disband and dissolve the Jewish-run Federal Reserve and overhaul the American stock market and the way that has worke [09:15]
mircea_popescu d for decades." [09:15]
mircea_popescu dude the policy ideas of homebrew candidates are fabulous. [09:15]
mircea_popescu "We eliminate the Muslim terror threat by first eliminating all support for Israel and then by additionally deporting all Muslims out of the American nation back to the Arab world." [09:16]
mircea_popescu that's gotta work : [09:16]
mircea_popescu :D [09:16]
pete_dushenski_ maybe they should just make an ebola to target moslems? [09:16]
decimation well, it would be cheaper for the us to simply ban pakistani immigration rather than try to be omniscient w.r.t. pakistani terrorism and so forth [09:16]
pete_dushenski_ it'd be more cost-effective! [09:17]
mircea_popescu decimation why do you suppose banning immigration does anything ? [09:17]
decimation well, I would ban all forms of border crossing [09:17]
mircea_popescu on what border ? [09:17]
decimation from selected states [09:17]
decimation heh good point [09:18]
mircea_popescu you could directly experiment with this idea. you could draw a line in your room, and ban all crossings of that line. see if it does anything for any variable you wish to measure. [09:18]
mircea_popescu i imagine at best it'd to nothing perceptible, if you choose the line well. [09:18]
mircea_popescu but otherwise it can become a major pain. [09:19]
decimation this problem largely solved itself in the past when only somebodies could afford to travel [09:19]
mircea_popescu what problem tho ? [09:19]
decimation well, I guess I buy into the idea that a nation and an genetic group are closely related [09:20]
pete_dushenski_ mircea_popescu: please to update blog link to -otc rating to http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pete_dushenski&sign=ANY&type=RECV :) [09:20]
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mircea_popescu decimation only if thegy wish to be. [09:20]
mircea_popescu do you suppose any marriage can be improved by confining the woman ? [09:20]
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mircea_popescu pete_dushenski_ i like that you give good error reports. [09:21]
mircea_popescu done. [09:21]
pete_dushenski_ mircea_popescu: gotta be clear about what ya want, neh? [09:21]
mircea_popescu yeh. [09:21]
pete_dushenski_ unlike mr. codenowaskfor1200permonthlater [09:22]
RagnarDanneskjol haha [09:22]
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pete_dushenski_ mircea_popescu: and i also like that you linked "contravex" directly to the troll article rather than the homepage. i take that as a seal o' approval :) [09:23]
mircea_popescu for some reason i prefer to link articles. [09:25]
decimation at any rate I'm sure that these hick canidates will be promoted so that their hatred can become a shared experience for their political enemies [09:26]
mircea_popescu guy doesn't seem motivated by anything but the usual driver of reality show attendants. [09:27]
mircea_popescu that ain't hate. [09:27]
mircea_popescu and for that matter, people tend to flatter themselves with that word a lot. an ability to hate is strictly realted to spending time in conditions not available to the average english speaking derp. [09:28]
mircea_popescu much like love ain't available to the same populace. [09:28]
decimation My language was imprecise: I meant that that he would be the object of common hatred [09:29]
decimation or at least common derision [09:29]
mircea_popescu i doubt he's all that stable. he doesn't look it in any case. [09:30]
mircea_popescu "Mayo noted that Frazier Glenn Miller, who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist groups, ran for the U.S. Senate in Missouri in 2010. He was charged this year in the shooting deaths of a 14-year-old boy and his grandfather outside an Overland Park, Kan., Jewish community center." [09:30]
mircea_popescu lol these obnoxious pests. [09:30]
mircea_popescu im sure there's no libtard that ever killed anyone. o.O [09:31]
decimation heh when a libtard kills someone it's just because he's crazy, not for any political reason [09:31]
mircea_popescu well... there's a lot of merit in that. how else could his alleged "political" oppinions be explained. [09:32]
decimation I guess my point is that the media likes to trump up the crazy nazi kkk guy when there were 415 murders in chicago last year [09:33]
thestringpuller d0000d [09:34]
decimation and 33,561 traffic deaths (in the us) [09:34]
mircea_popescu if it makes you feel any better, the media does the same here. there were i dunno, like five murders in a 20mn pop town. [09:34]
mircea_popescu that's what, 5x la [09:34]
decimation if the average us guy even knows where south america is, he perceives the cities as basically gigantic barrios with constant death [09:35]
mircea_popescu they are gigantic barrios, but the only constant is fucking. [09:36]
decimation reading the wikipedia I'm surprised to find that argentina is basically 80-90% european [09:37]
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mircea_popescu why surprised ? [09:39]
pete_dushenski_ lulzy promoted tweet: https://twitter.com/RelayRides/status/517483681695272960 [09:40]
assbot Peer-to-peer car rentals. Unbeatable selection of cars from real people. $1M insurance. https://t.co/vWPVroAMiW [09:40]
mircea_popescu who wants a car from "Real people" ? [09:41]
mircea_popescu what's the value add, cumrag ? [09:41]
decimation I guess I pictured it as basically peopled by Inca [09:42]
decimation but I guess that's more peru [09:42]
pete_dushenski_ "cigarettes in ashtray, only half smoked!" [09:42]
mircea_popescu eh what inca. [09:42]
mircea_popescu that alleged empire was what, 100k people ? [09:42]
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pete_dushenski_ also ozzies are sending 8 super hornets to tackle isis. canada's mighty cf-18s can't be far behind nao. [09:43]
pete_dushenski_ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-03/abbott-commits-australian-fighter-jets-to-air-strikes-in-iraq.html [09:43]
assbot Abbott Commits Australian Fighter Jets to Air Strikes in Iraq - Bloomberg [09:43]
mircea_popescu lmao [09:43]
decimation a 'coalition of the willing' indeed [09:44]
mircea_popescu is this the same iraq the us just got beat out of, and had to lulzily evacuate their baghdad "embassy" ? [09:44]
mircea_popescu did i miss a crucial something here ? [09:44]
mircea_popescu it's like a retard kid who gets told off by his imagined gf, goes away, turns around and starts over [09:44]
decimation I imagine that most countries perceive the us as a 300 pound giant with the brains of a 12 year old boy [09:45]
decimation can be really dangerous if you line yourself up in his sights, but really easy to manipulate [09:45]
pete_dushenski_ decimation: was 300 10 years ago, now 225. [09:45]
mircea_popescu yeah, something like that. i think they mostly perceive it as a combined fuckhole/shithole/eatery [09:46]
decimation there's no doubt that there's a gap between 'strength on paper' and 'actual strength, if actually tested' [09:46]
mircea_popescu which is kinda perverse. [09:46]
pete_dushenski_ and can therefore be subdued by a lean 140 pounder. [09:46]
decimation or a 100 lb girl with the right charms [09:46]
pete_dushenski_ "i know kung fu" and shit. [09:46]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski_ depends where. not for as long as stays safely behind her keyboard. [09:46]
mircea_popescu or joystick as the case may be [09:47]
decimation on the other hand, the romans spent centuries trying to conquer the middle east [09:47]
decimation why should the powers of today have it any other way [09:47]
mircea_popescu the greeks spent two years, and got all the way to indioa [09:48]
mircea_popescu i have my doubts whether the romans ever were interested in conquest. [09:49]
mircea_popescu they kept trying to smash the persian empire, which they mostly managed, more or less. [09:49]
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decimation plus allotting conquered lands to very important bureaucrats and so forth [09:49]
mircea_popescu in the middle east ? [09:50]
decimation sure, being governor over there was a stepping stone to power at times [09:50]
mircea_popescu well being a (military) governor, sure. but generally the patricians held land in latium, then in italia, then in galia n, and then finally in spain, thracia, whatever. [09:52]
mircea_popescu not really illyricum or asia minor [09:52]
decimation yeah my earlier implication about patricians holding estates in syria etc is wrong [09:53]
pete_dushenski_ i'm off to the dreamobile! bon soir! [09:57]
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decimation 'night all [09:57]
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mthreat http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/11137879/Jeremy-Clarkson-stoned-as-Top-Gear-crew-abandon-cars-and-flee-Argentina.html [18:45]
assbot Jeremy Clarkson 'stoned' as Top Gear crew abandon cars and flee Argentina - Telegraph [18:45]
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pete_dushenski mthreat: see logs ;) [18:46]
mircea_popescu lmao wtf happened there. [18:46]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: clarkson "trolled" argentinians about the falklands wars [18:46]
mircea_popescu aaaa hahhhaha [18:46]
mircea_popescu win. [18:46]
pete_dushenski had a license plate on his car that read "H982 FLK" or some such. [18:46]
mircea_popescu possibly best troll ever. [18:46]
mircea_popescu so who is this guy ? [18:47]
pete_dushenski host of a tv show about cars. [18:47]
pete_dushenski on bbc. a journalist with a sense of humour who also knows how to work a camera [18:47]
mircea_popescu sorta like that cook guy, different color scheme ? [18:47]
thickasthieves a "racist" [18:47]
mircea_popescu obnoxious knowitall sorta talkhead ? [18:47]
pete_dushenski nah, just a king troll. [18:47]
thickasthieves no just a guy who likes fast cars [18:48]
thickasthieves or has he trolled in the past too? [18:48]
mthreat "He added that the numbers 646 on James May's Lotus could be taken as a reference to the 649 Argentinian casualties." [18:48]
mthreat ^ that is pretty weak [18:48]
pete_dushenski ;;google jeremy clarkson trolls mexico [18:48]
gribble Jeremy Clarkson, Master-Level Troll, Trolls Entire Nation Of Argentina: ; Actress Wants Top Gear Off The Air Over 'Racist' Joke - Jalopnik: ; Jeremy Clarkson lays into British as Twitter trolls mock death of his (1 more message) [18:48]
mthreat they did it in Alabama too. They wrote "Hillary for President", "NASCAR Sucks", and "Man-love rules" on their cars [18:49]
mthreat and they supposedly got stoned by alabamans [18:49]
mthreat Personally I think it's all staged, just as the Tesla battery dying incident was staged [18:49]
pete_dushenski mthreat: lmao so classic. [18:49]
mthreat but the show is still great to watch, for entertainment [18:49]
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pete_dushenski so turns out the size of teh eligible us labour force is ~243 mn as of 2012 [18:52]
mircea_popescu sounds about right. [18:52]
pete_dushenski ;;calc 92.6/143 [18:52]
gribble 0.647552447552 [18:52]
mircea_popescu and total employees is what, 160mn, if excluding govt 72 mn ? [18:52]
pete_dushenski and you have 35.25% unemployment [18:53]
pete_dushenski 92.6 mn "not in labour force" atm [18:53]
mircea_popescu https://es-es.facebook.com/fundaciontrilema << [18:53]
mircea_popescu make thing infringing on mp's trademark. have mp notice you in google. mp files complaint with fb, yest. page suspended, today. [18:54]
mircea_popescu a well. [18:54]
pete_dushenski "Clarkson, 54, was called before BBC bosses this week after The Mirror newspaper reported he was heard using the word "nigger" as he recited an old version of the rhyme Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe to choose between cars in filming two years ago." [18:57]
thickasthieves not in labor force includes retirees, disabled, toddlers? [18:58]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves not eligible ? yes. [18:58]
pete_dushenski "The furore comes just days after Top Gear producers apologised for a "light-hearted" joke by Clarkson during filming in Myanmar and Thailand, in which he referred to a "slope" on a bridge as an Asian man crossed a makeshift structure built by the presenters." [18:58]
mircea_popescu i dun get it ? [18:59]
pete_dushenski lol ya me neither. [18:59]
thickasthieves slope is like nigger for chinks [18:59]
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pete_dushenski who knew? [18:59]
mircea_popescu wait srsly ?! [18:59]
thickasthieves ya [18:59]
mircea_popescu since when ? [18:59]
thickasthieves sloped eyes or something [18:59]
thickasthieves i dunno [18:59]
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thickasthieves it's a thing [18:59]
thickasthieves Clarkson is a student of racist craft i guess [19:00]
mircea_popescu dude i don't spend enough time with hicks, trolls and angry ppl. [19:00]
thickasthieves ;;ud slope [19:01]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slope | Vietnam-era charlie. Any asian resembeling one of the 'reds'. [19:01]
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mircea_popescu i didn't know "spook" was nigger until i saw that hopkins film, either. [19:01]
thickasthieves "It is an acronym for Silly Little Opium Peddling Easterner. " [19:01]
thickasthieves lol [19:01]
pete_dushenski lmao! [19:02]
mircea_popescu and everyone's so fucking self-important about it, you know ? necessarily you musta known whatever retarded subtext they're familiar with [19:02]
mircea_popescu because you definitely care as much as they do!!! because you must, because otherwise are you implying they're fucking idiots ?!? [19:02]
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thickasthieves probly more fun to make up racist names than learn them anyway [19:03]
mircea_popescu yeah, you hoarg [19:03]
mircea_popescu it's better cause you don't even need to define them, just feed them off the op's insecurities. [19:03]
mircea_popescu "it just means someone like you" [19:03]
pete_dushenski "Daughter of Hong Kong leader thanks "taxpayers" for diamonds on Facebook" [19:04]
pete_dushenski "The necklace on my profile pic is not a dog collar, silly!!!" she said. "This is actually a beautiful necklace bought at Lane Crawford (yes - funded by all you HK taxpayers!! So are all my beautiful shoes and dresses and clutches!! Thank you so much!!!!)". [19:04]
pete_dushenski Chai Yan hit out at those taunting her saying, "Actually maybe I shouldn't say 'all you'- since most of you here are probably unemployed hence all this time obsessed with bombarding me with messages". She later said, "It's ok, your mother still loves you". [19:04]
pete_dushenski ok that's good shit right there [19:04]
mircea_popescu not bad. sex tape ? [19:05]
thickasthieves nice [19:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 2.06919702 BTC to 29`438 shares, 7029 satoshi per share [19:05]
thickasthieves sex tape stars need a racist name [19:05]
mircea_popescu shplokes [19:06]
pete_dushenski slope yan leung. [19:06]
mircea_popescu Film crew reportedly told officers at the first checkpoint they reached after passing through Tolhuin: "We're leaving the cars, we don't want more problems. Burn them if you want but we're getting out of here." [19:14]
mircea_popescu An Argentinian technician hired for the Top Gear shoot is said to have been injured after a stone thrown by one of the demonstrators hit him in the face. [19:14]
mircea_popescu i don't get this pussy bs. why not just open fire ? [19:14]
mircea_popescu what are the veterans going to do, bomb you ? [19:14]
mthreat here are pics from an Argentine publication: [19:15]
mthreat http://www.infobae.com/2014/10/03/1599200-la-bbc-provoca-un-escandalo-las-islas-malvinas-argentina [19:15]
assbot La BBC provoca un escndalo por las Islas Malvinas en Argentina | Guerra de Malvinas, Malvinas, Islas Malvinas, BBC, Argentina, Bariloche - Amrica [19:15]
mthreat pics of the stoned cars, broken windows [19:15]
mthreat that Lotus is classic. I guess they all are but the Lotus is the best ;) [19:15]
mircea_popescu i wonder how much the k troop paid for this anyway [19:15]
mircea_popescu mthreat so i don't get it... where is the damage ? [19:16]
mircea_popescu they just look like dirt racers. [19:16]
mthreat there are some broken windows at least [19:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 878 @ 0.00074016 = 0.6499 BTC [-] {2} [19:16]
mthreat dents from rocks may be hard to see in the pics [19:16]
mircea_popescu ;;ud blighter [19:17]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blighter | Perhaps the word is related to "blight", a plant disease that ruins potatoes (as a " blighter" tends to ruin things in which he's involved). The word appears to be ... [19:17]
pete_dushenski mthreat: ya that lotus is lovely. not that i'd kick the 928 out of bed either, esp. with that plate. [19:17]
mircea_popescu mthreat yeah but i mean... that's what dirt racing does anyway [19:17]
pete_dushenski speaking of slang: http://www.portenospanish.com/word/6/malco [19:20]
assbot What is Malco in English? - Porteo Spanish [19:20]
pete_dushenski this seems to describe those "trolled" by clarkson [19:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51962 @ 0.00074109 = 38.5085 BTC [+] {2} [19:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00074421 = 7.4421 BTC [+] [19:26]
mthreat went karting here wednesday, and have the bruises to prove it :) [19:27]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell nubbins` http://posters.lardbucket.org/ is this the sorriest thing you ever saw or what [19:43]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:43]
assbot posters.lardbucket.org [19:43]
thickasthieves ;;ticker [19:44]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 361.41, Best ask: 362.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.58000, Last trade: 361.41, 24 hour volume: 15050.27264188, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 378.85, 24 hour vwap: 375.330137741 [19:44]
los_pantalones thickasthieves here come your 360's [19:44]
thickasthieves my body is ready [19:45]
thickasthieves only now i thnk 360 is too expensive [19:46]
los_pantalones hahahaha [19:46]
los_pantalones what? [19:46]
kakobrekla a round 266 sounds more like it [19:49]
mircea_popescu lol [19:56]
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mircea_popescu this eulora game engine thing is the hardest thing i ever fcking did. [20:00]
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mircea_popescu it'd harder than mpex. this shit where i write the loot functions... god fucking help me i've never seen a more complex problem. [20:01]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/ Odds: 58(Y):42(N) by coin, 48(Y):52(N) by weight. Total bet: 57.66946193 BTC. Current weight: 17,804. [20:02]
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TomServo mircea_popescu: Do tell. I've always wondered how they worked. [20:06]
mircea_popescu i am never going to tell. [20:06]
bounce huh. bcoinnews is serving up a sack of html as text/plain. no wonder it doesn't render. [20:06]
mircea_popescu this is the reason the game's even worth playing in the first place. the frigging loot functions. [20:06]
bounce int winnar() { return 4; } // ze loot [20:07]
mircea_popescu eulora is not an eyecandy delivery device like every other mmorpg out there, competing in a saturated market without a bottom. [20:07]
mircea_popescu eulora is a math delivery device. [20:07]
mircea_popescu and in point of fact people love nothing more than math. that's the only thing they'll dedicate their lives to. [20:07]
mircea_popescu just as long as they don't have to interact with it abstractly, of course. [20:08]
mircea_popescu there's nothing people hate more than abstraction. [20:08]
thickasthieves unless ur merican [20:09]
mircea_popescu nope. [20:09]
thickasthieves doesnt meta count as abstraction? [20:09]
thickasthieves our only industry is promoting industry [20:09]
thickasthieves nothing costs what it costs [20:10]
mats_cd03 slope refers to the forehead, i belieb [20:10]
mats_cd03 slant referring to the eyes [20:10]
mats_cd03 then there's other good stuff, like zipperhead and gook [20:11]
bounce you're trying to prove that chinks are like totally math-y? [20:11]
mats_cd03 zipperhead hailing from 'nam, i think, and as seen in American movies like Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, and Gran Torino [20:12]
mats_cd03 http://www.rsdb.org/race/asians some good ones ive never heard [20:16]
assbot The Racial Slur Database [20:16]
ben_vulpes ;;ud weather eye [20:16]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=weather+eye | weather bug · weather buggin · weather chatting · weathercoat · Weathercock · weathercock logic · weather.com ... weather eye isn't defined. Can you define it? [20:16]
ben_vulpes dafuq? [20:16]
thickasthieves weathercock logic? [20:17]
thickasthieves oh [20:18]
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mats_cd03 i watched a man get savaged outside of a bar last night by a well dressed man [20:25]
mats_cd03 i thought of mp [20:25]
Dimsler devolution of society [20:28]
Dimsler they should have just had a duel [20:28]
mats_cd03 i'm told by a reverser i trust that windows 10 is boring from an internal perspective [20:29]
Dimsler must make a microsoft account to use [20:29]
mats_cd03 no major changes to subsystems, no Windows 8 exploits that he had were patched, nor any of his tricks for bypassing SMEP, SMAP, kernel safe unlinking, low integrity processes, leaking memory/pointers, locking memory without SeLockMemoryPrivilege, leaking PFNs for VAs, changing page protections through non-standard APIs, etc [20:29]
thickasthieves boring from all perspectives [20:29]
mats_cd03 no fundamental changes to userland libraries, heap implementation in ntdll, bypassuac technique still works, [20:30]
thickasthieves soon we'll have FREE Windows USBs in the mail [20:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00074655 = 16.2001 BTC [+] {2} [20:32]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03 why of me?! [20:34]
Dimsler maybe he thinks you're a savage in a suit? [20:35]
mats_cd03 and internal MSFT rumors suggest that the skip from windows 9 to 10 was due to developers parsing os version strings of 'windows 95/98' badly, e.g. testing for just 'windows 9' in the substring [20:35]
mircea_popescu hey, i've not killed anyone in at least fifteen years. [20:35]
Dimsler can't spell manslaughter without laughter [20:36]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03 ahahaha that'd be the lol of all time. [20:36]
mircea_popescu man's laughter. [20:36]
mats_cd03 mircea_popescu: well, you did use the phrase 'a man being savaged', and well, being a gangster in your youth. plus, the only images i've seen of you are in suits [20:37]
mircea_popescu savaged, of course, means this speciffic hunting technique where the preditor opens the abdominal cavity of the prey [20:37]
mats_cd03 i felt strangely detached from the spectacle of it. [20:37]
mats_cd03 like, hm, this is happening right now. i'm watching a man die. [20:38]
mircea_popescu like the african dogs do [20:38]
mats_cd03 and none of the other clueless chicken heads have any idea what they're seeing. [20:38]
thickasthieves guys, stop killing people [20:38]
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xanthyos hi [20:39]
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thickasthieves ;;bcstats [20:40]
gribble Current Blocks: 323667 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 908 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34013893471.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.86816 [20:40]
mircea_popescu killing people is wrong mkay [20:40]
thickasthieves rutroh [20:40]
Dimsler just a little [20:40]
mircea_popescu whatever, we do what we want. [20:40]
mircea_popescu we don't even go to skool [20:40]
thickasthieves time to switch miners to ATC [20:40]
thickasthieves BTC is dead [20:40]
mircea_popescu it's not dead until we find a fat lady that can sing. [20:41]
bounce there's at least two recruiters floating around here, ought to be able to make 'emselves useful, no? [20:41]
thickasthieves mp here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvc1yzohPXI [20:41]
assbot Fat Lady Sings Katy Perry ET!!! - YouTube [20:41]
kakobrekla now we can +m [20:42]
Dimsler yey [20:42]
Dimsler or +i [20:42]
thickasthieves fat lady haz tongue piercing too, for ur plezur [20:42]
mircea_popescu no dude she's gotta sing wagner [20:42]
bounce in a helicopter [20:43]
mircea_popescu gotterdammerung, something. [20:43]
Dimsler does she not have any teeth? [20:43]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igAWgaW8eq4 << this thing. [20:43]
assbot Gtterdmmerung-Trauermarsch, Richard Wagner, Stockholm Ring, Gregor Bhl conductor - YouTube [20:43]
thickasthieves dimsler, theyd just get in the way [20:44]
Dimsler oh she eats like a duck? [20:44]
Dimsler makes sense [20:44]
mircea_popescu ducks have teeth on their bills [20:44]
thickasthieves she eats like a snake [20:44]
Dimsler incisors [20:44]
Dimsler those aren't to chew [20:45]
xanthyos homer eats like a duck http://babysimpson.co.uk/gallery/frames/8/4f19/136.jpg [20:45]
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mircea_popescu more to filter yeah [20:45]
thickasthieves looks like they have teeth on the tongue too [20:45]
thickasthieves nice duck http://bcibcrypto.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/cid_12fc099866e3453e97a77b0ca943d5a4colourful.jpg [20:46]
Dimsler fucking germanic operahs [20:46]
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Dimsler er compositions [20:48]
[]bot Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/ Odds: 61(Y):39(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 60.66946193 BTC. Current weight: 17,721. [20:51]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [20:51]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 362.83, Best ask: 363.73, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 363.37, 24 hour volume: 15326.10273498, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 378.85, 24 hour vwap: 375.330137741 [20:51]
mircea_popescu it's so not happening lol [20:51]
Dimsler the bid walls just keep getting taken out [20:52]
Dimsler 2600 in coins to sell to $350 [20:53]
Dimsler woop [20:53]
Dimsler 1400coins [20:53]
Dimsler heh [20:53]
kakobrekla where are the leechers? [20:54]
Dimsler lol [20:54]
mircea_popescu 61(Y):39(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight << lulziest part [20:54]
Dimsler if i had more cash on bitstamp [20:54]
kakobrekla if i had any cash! [20:54]
Dimsler would just leave a roving order hanging [20:55]
kakobrekla at least euro is also worthless [20:56]
BingoBoingo yknow i'm ok with qntra being all barebones design, but why on god's green earth is it left-aligned? << As opposed to... [21:00]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/25/9q/1Xox0ZQS/fishes.png [21:00]
mircea_popescu at least euro is also worthless << lol keep a stiff upper lip! [21:00]
mircea_popescu bwahahaha garr the honest person ? [21:01]
mircea_popescu is this the guy who lied about shil bidding on his own "auction" then being proven to have lied ? [21:01]
kakobrekla correct. [21:01]
mircea_popescu he's strategically not in the wot either, is he ? [21:02]
kakobrekla he is but who cares [21:02]
mircea_popescu well i do [21:02]
kakobrekla ;;getturst kakobrekla garr255 [21:02]
gribble Error: "getturst" is not a valid command. [21:02]
kakobrekla thrust ! [21:02]
mircea_popescu getturdst ? [21:02]
kakobrekla we need it NAO! [21:02]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust kakobrekla garr255 [21:02]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user garr255: Level 1: -5, Level 2: -2 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=garr255 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=garr255 | Rated since: Sat Jun 16 15:01:31 2012 [21:02]
kakobrekla o look, i was the first to negrate him [21:03]
kakobrekla bak in 2013 [21:03]
mircea_popescu ;;rate garr255 -1 GLBSE scammer, poster child for all the lying & fraudulent behaviour that association would promise. [21:03]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user garr255 has been recorded. [21:03]
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kakobrekla but but nefario still owes him 100btc! [21:08]
kakobrekla (i suspekt its made up thing) [21:09]
mircea_popescu the scammer train : all scammers who stil believe can hide in plain sight can conveniently claim that a well known scammer owes them. [21:10]
mircea_popescu this is what goat claimed re pirate, the whole clutch of them re nefario etc. [21:10]
kakobrekla yea, dead horse wont fight back [21:11]
mircea_popescu mroeover, you know how to generate infinite moneyz ? [21:11]
mircea_popescu by substracting infinite moneyz from negative value of moneyz. [21:11]
mircea_popescu also known as the "full faith and credit of the united states government" scam. [21:12]
kakobrekla hehe [21:12]
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xanthyos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZeomwPriDQ [21:18]
assbot Chapel Perilous - Along the Way to the Mystery - YouTube [21:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00074416 = 29.3943 BTC [-] {2} [21:29]
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thickasthieves bingoboingo, centered, cuz most displays are wide these days [21:32]
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mats_cd03 ;;ticker [21:44]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 362.04, Best ask: 363.91, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 362.03, 24 hour volume: 15899.40795613, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 378.78, 24 hour vwap: 375.226857363 [21:44]
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mats_cd03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrs0vgRQB5Q korean rapper. not bad. [21:51]
assbot Video Dumbfounded - Bubba Kush [Music Video].flv - YouTube [21:51]
mats_cd03 http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/10/03/jessica-williams-continues-her-war-against-catcalls-on-the-daily-show [21:53]
assbot Jessica Williams Continues Her War Against Catcalls on ‘The Daily Show’ - Speakeasy - WSJ [21:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58550 @ 0.00074149 = 43.4142 BTC [-] {3} [22:03]
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BingoBoingo thickasthieves: What? People with giant wide displays maximize windows to read text? [22:25]
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thickasthieves i guess i'm just in the minority [22:33]
BingoBoingo thickasthieves: Well the design is just to get the thing started. I just don't know of any graceful way to handle the problem of really big monitors. [22:37]
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thickasthieves center the page [22:39]
thickasthieves doesnt even require css ;) [22:40]
punkman ol' trusty
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BingoBoingo thickasthieves: But that leaves big ole empty wings [22:41]
bounce forgot whose study it was, but apparently the easiest to read is about 65 cols referencing fixed-pitch. [22:42]
thickasthieves well you prefer your content to be in the wing? [22:42]
thickasthieves or both wings on one side? [22:42]
thickasthieves and* [22:43]
bounce you should do popups complaining that the content is optimised for sane widths and please upgrade your browser and/or your resolution [22:43]
BingoBoingo I'll raise the issue with cazalla [22:45]
BingoBoingo bounce may be on to something [22:46]
thickasthieves yes and all browsers should be magical automatic display handlers and websites only databases [22:46]
BingoBoingo Well actually yes browsers should handle the display rather than the site. [22:47]
bounce that was the idea, originally. then web"design" happened. [22:48]
thickasthieves and all people should be the same [22:48]
BingoBoingo Websites shouldn't default to violently raping user hardware [22:48]
thickasthieves and all emotion removed from all things [22:48]
thickasthieves so we can math our lives away [22:48]
BingoBoingo thickasthieves: No, people get to dress up the websites however the wish [22:48]
bounce that is the current assumption: hipster with tablet [22:48]
BingoBoingo Plenty of ways to do custom CSS with pink and kittens and myspace [22:49]
thickasthieves people dont want to dress up websites [22:49]
bounce in fact, it rarely happens but could provide multiple layouts for the onlooker to choose [22:49]
thickasthieves i understand that a spec for website data would be convenient and provide ease and cleanliness from one perspective [22:50]
bounce this about that giant screenshot with two panes on either side and lots of nothing inbetween? [22:50]
thickasthieves it's just an impossible ideal for one paradigm [22:50]
thickasthieves all computers should use the same hw spec and everyone should program in the same language and use the same db sesign too [22:51]
bounce meh. most often all sorts of unwarranted assumptions creep in; web"design" does tent to focus on one thing and massively over-engineers with gratuitous js-reinvention of basic stuff to make it look "nicer" [22:51]
BingoBoingo I don't think the current super mininum style is going to be a permanent feature on qntra, but... page load times are a thing. Got to plan for people accessing the internet using dialup through a payphone. [22:51]
thickasthieves i'm not saying many websites arent ridiculous [22:52]
thickasthieves i'm saying both extremes are [22:52]
* punkman remembers the derps trying to do webfonts before we had webfonts [22:52]
bounce in this case it might be more useful to not stick one pane on the right and another on the left hand side, but position them relative to each other instead [22:53]
bounce or let the browser put them next or below each other, depending on actual window width. [22:54]
thickasthieves the problem is you cant get browsers to fall in line to that kinda thing [22:54]
thickasthieves ie microshit everything displaying diff [22:55]
bounce you'd have to release the notion of getting an identical picture everywhere. you're not serving up "an experience" or "a picture" or whatever, you're serving up content. [22:55]
thickasthieves most people arent though [22:55]
thickasthieves they are serving up advertising [22:56]
thickasthieves products [22:56]
thickasthieves etc [22:56]
thickasthieves brands [22:56]
bounce though I'd be perfectly willing to ignore any and all redmond products regardless of reported usage percentages, they just don't play well with others [22:56]
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thickasthieves btce price is $14 below others [23:01]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [23:03]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 361.53, vol: 17577.11989493 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 348.5, vol: 8496.01598 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 362.2, vol: 18786.5756587 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 370.15, vol: 40.38435468 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 367.965036, vol: 23053.71410000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 355.0, vol: 20.27 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 368.311266445, vol: 79.21147285 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [23:03]
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Duffer1 business as usual [23:04]
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BingoBoingo Seems so. Buterin's waterfall keeps a churning [23:07]
mats_cd03 https://secupwn.github.io/Android-IMSI-Catcher-Detector [23:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00074212 = 8.5344 BTC [+] [23:11]
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BingoBoingo !up william1 [23:21]
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BingoBoingo http://www.globalresearch.ca/pharmaceutical-giant-glaxosmithkline-accidentally-released-45-liters-of-concentrated-live-polio-virus-in-the-environment/5405801 [23:21]
assbot Pharmaceutical Giant GlaxoSmithKline “Accidentally” Released 45 Liters of Concentrated Live Polio Virus in the Environment | Global Research [23:21]
william1 Well thats an impressive feat [23:21]
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thickasthieves mmm polio [23:23]
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jurov they were trying to eradicate these "various orthodox protestant communities" [23:23]
william1 Well at least their hearts were in the right place [23:24]
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assbot Click and Dragger: Denial and Deception on Android mobile [23:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 297 @ 0.006 = 1.782 BTC [-] {4} [23:26]
mats_cd03 seen it [23:27]
mats_cd03 his presentations on opsec are always excellent [23:27]
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TheNewDeal ;;ticker [23:27]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 360.79, Best ask: 361.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 361.82, 24 hour volume: 17795.06905467, 24 hour low: 357.0, 24 hour high: 378.78, 24 hour vwap: 374.816987872 [23:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00074212 = 16.9203 BTC [+] [23:30]
penguirker New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-asic-manufacturer-bfl/ [23:30]
mats_cd03 an excellent presentation on why blackphone et. al is stupid. [23:37]
jurov http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/09/windows-10-command-prompt-finally-gets-dragged-into-the-21st-century/ [23:38]
william1 Wasn't it torn apart within 15 minutes of it being revealed? [23:38]
assbot Windows 10 command prompt finally gets dragged into the 21st century | Ars Technica [23:38]
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BingoBoingo jurov: Wait, WindowsX has a clicky graphical dialogue for... Setting command line properties? [23:40]
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mats_cd03 ars writer is so enthused [23:47]
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bounce fanbois will be fanbois. people fawning over powershell like it's the bestest thing evar and not, oh, twenty years late to the party? bit of a giveaway. [23:49]
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jurov and transparent background!!1 [23:49]
xanthyos presumed intent is FUCKED [23:49]
william1 The US gov is generally fucked, no new information there [23:52]
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