Forum logs for 03 Oct 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
ozbot Former NSA Honcho Calls Enterprise Security 'Appalling' [00:00]
dub obvious statement needs stating [00:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.953 = 2.859 BTC [-] [00:00]
dub As we look at the situation in the security arena. we see an awful lot of big companies . Fortune 100-level companies . with, to be perfectly candid, appalling security. They have fundamentally no idea what they.re doing, [00:00]
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kakobrekla lol theres bets on this thing http://bitbet.us/bet/542/the-fbi-were-had/ [00:03]
mircea_popescu shit tha matters. [00:03]
pankkake thanks to dexX7 trolling reddit [00:03]
kakobrekla also even odds [00:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-] [00:03]
dub how the fuck does that get resolved? [00:03]
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pankkake the "dpr tried to hire a hitman" is fishy, though [00:04]
pankkake it looks like it wasn't even gpg signed! [00:04]
pankkake dub: as asual. by bribing bitbet staff [00:05]
dub I'm shocked that it even went down [00:05]
dub standard FBI MO would be to leave it running [00:05]
mjoiii they left it running since july when they imaged it [00:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 17000 @ 0.00018188 = 3.092 BTC [-] {6} [00:06]
pankkake I hope the server was encrypted… [00:07]
mjoiii yup [00:08]
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pankkake Diablo-D3: there are ways around that. like hosting it in a physically controlled location [00:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.00962224 = 1.9244 BTC [-] {3} [00:09]
mjoiii pankkake: so they'd image it by remote? [00:10]
pankkake you can read ram through walls? [00:10]
mjoiii like physically secure? [00:10]
pankkake yes, that's what I meant [00:11]
mjoiii then how'd they image it back in jul? [00:11]
pankkake oh, I mean that's what *should* be done - not what was done [00:11]
mjoiii yeah, shit, what should've.. [00:11]
pankkake looks like I'm the only one competent and paranoid enough to run the new silk road. brb [00:12]
mjoiii must be plenty of people sweating over unencrypted messages back and forth [00:12]
pankkake http://openpgpjs.org/ is useful to force even noobs to use gpg [00:12]
ozbot OpenPGP.js [00:12]
mjoiii i would have thought dpr would be way the hell away from the US [00:12]
mjoiii san francisco was a shock [00:12]
mjoiii would this be the first occurrence of a tor site being taken down? [00:14]
pankkake freedom hosting was first [00:15]
mjoiii so that was an .onion too, i didn't know [00:15]
pankkake then atlantis shut down by itself [00:15]
pankkake it was a hoster of .onions [00:15]
dub they can read ram through the power lines [00:16]
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dub they could in the 80's [00:16]
pankkake technology has changed [00:16]
mjoiii directly through the lines or from the waves coming off them? [00:16]
kakobrekla with trollvision glasses [00:17]
mjoiii not xray specs? [00:17]
pankkake and even then, there are full-whatever UPSes that would probably kill it [00:17]
dub look at the waaaaves brah [00:17]
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dub I have a buddy that designed a bunch of govt security shit [00:18]
mjoiii chips for vpn? [00:19]
dub even back then all your peripherals, monitor, keyboard etc was hooked up opticaly [00:19]
pankkake CRT monitors were easy to spy on [00:19]
mjoiii dub what do you mean optically? [00:20]
mjoiii personal computers? [00:20]
kakobrekla you can cool down ram and move it to another location / machine and read it [00:20]
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mjoiii kako: freeze it's state? [00:21]
dub basically pc's [00:21]
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mjoiii trying to understand... how optical? keyboard for example. [00:21]
kakobrekla mjoiii this basically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack [00:22]
dub mjoiii: fiber optics [00:22]
pankkake kakobrekla: yes, unless they're too late [00:22]
dub so you cant snarf the rf [00:22]
pankkake $20 webcam + motion = automated shutdown [00:22]
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jurov i was under impression they just subpoenaed colo provider and imaged the machine via network using some 0day [00:23]
mjoiii they have a library of vulns? [00:24]
jurov why not? [00:24]
pankkake there are black markets of vulnerabilities [00:24]
kakobrekla unfortunatley they have just taken it down! [00:24]
dub even smalltown pedo LE types have shit to sieze or image running machines [00:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 45001 @ 0.0001813 = 8.1587 BTC [-] {2} [00:24]
pankkake well it's easy if it's a rented server [00:25]
pankkake if you rent the bay, maybe you can booby trap it [00:25]
dub wait, USG shuts down, SR shuts down... [00:25]
pankkake or simply, host at home. silk road wouldn't require that much bandwith [00:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 15277 @ 0.0001812 = 2.7682 BTC [-] [00:25]
mjoiii dub, man you're onto something [00:26]
jurov pankkake, or host from internet cafe 150m away..just to be safe, yeah [00:26]
pankkake haha [00:26]
dub ikr, has anyone even seen a chemtrail this week? [00:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.941 = 3.764 BTC [-] [00:27]
mjoiii wouldn't the idea be to string the various tiers across multiple countries? [00:27]
kakobrekla also the global temps are down [00:27]
dub fuuu [00:27]
dub icecaps refreezing [00:27]
jurov "idea be to string the various tiers across multiple countries"oh nobody does it, perhaps except me [00:27]
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pankkake well, I'd certainly try to put multiple layers (hehe) of security [00:28]
mjoiii the only layers seems to be political [00:28]
kakobrekla lazerz und bombs! [00:28]
pankkake I wonder if combining tor and i2p is doable [00:28]
mjoiii i mean that can offer protection [00:28]
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pankkake and then, the physical security [00:29]
pankkake no passwords, only physical tokens [00:29]
pankkake self-shutting down [00:29]
mjoiii dead man switch [00:29]
jurov female slaves in rack [00:30]
kakobrekla "oh man a mosquito rm -rfed my silk road for the third time this week!" [00:30]
pankkake eh, it's better to have 80% uptime that 0% eventually [00:31]
pankkake also, http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome works very well [00:31]
jurov sufficiently paranoid sysadmin would never start something like sr [00:31]
pankkake I use it successfully with a crappy webcam [00:31]
kakobrekla well seems you are ready to rock [00:31]
kakobrekla just be sure to leave your gmail here first [00:31]
pankkake hehe [00:31]
jurov from that follows we'll never have sufficiently secure sr-like service [00:32]
pankkake I never ordered from SR, I kept putting it off [00:32]
pankkake so I don't really have the experience to rewrite the thing [00:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2253 @ 0.00092 = 2.0728 BTC [+] [00:33]
pankkake I guess a seller would be the most knowledgeable [00:33]
mjoiii rewrite it to be distributed? [00:33]
jurov i toyed with idea to hide small solar-powered computer in some place with public wifi [00:34]
pankkake that doesn't make much sense. who does the escrow? [00:34]
mjoiii godammit [00:34]
jurov but i don't really have an use for that [00:34]
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mjoiii can't be somehow shared amongst users? [00:34]
jborkl it would be easier to hide raspberry pis all over at places with free wifi, no one would ever see them [00:35]
pankkake jurov: I hope it will be common in the future. even as simple relays [00:35]
pankkake the hardest is to have both internet and power [00:35]
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jurov or there are public transport buses wit wifi running around.. just hack them for power somehow [00:36]
jborkl only need 5v [00:36]
jborkl a android phone charger [00:36]
jurov but they have cameras inside so not trivial [00:36]
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jurov maybe light fixture can be quickly appropriated [00:37]
mjoiii power line induction [00:37]
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jurov lol i remembered we were thinking here about installing clandestine miners to trolleybuses [00:40]
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dub had plenty of people suggest hiding miners around the multitude of places I could [00:42]
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dub got ~1.21 jiggaamps of 50vdc lying around [00:46]
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dub but risk 6 figures for another 4 or low 5 [00:47]
dub nothx [00:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.999 = 1.998 BTC [+] [00:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 29976 @ 0.00027346 = 8.1972 BTC [-] {10} [00:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 40025 @ 0.00025498 = 10.2056 BTC [-] {5} [00:49]
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mircea_popescu you're gonna get fired for plugging in your coffee warmer ? [00:50]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.9755 = 4.8775 BTC [+] {2} [00:53]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.026 = 9.234 BTC [+] [00:55]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.027 = 8.216 BTC [+] [00:57]
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pankkake I don't know why, but when I put bitcoin addresses in DuckDuckGo, I get sec.gov results [01:06]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 50 @ 0.04345 = 2.1725 BTC [+] [09:40]
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thestringpuller The consultant [09:49]
thestringpuller Diablo-D3: what do you even do where is the 1 billion dollar plan you were enacting [09:49]
thestringpuller /trolltrolltroll [09:50]
mircea_popescu dude bitcoin was totally dependent on sr. har har. [09:55]
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assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 490 @ 0.005383 = 2.6377 BTC [+] [10:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 31 @ 0.005384 = 0.1669 BTC [+] [10:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7400 @ 0.00020279 = 1.5006 BTC [+] {7} [10:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 600 @ 0.0002185 = 0.1311 BTC [+] [10:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 170 @ 0.00135 = 0.2295 BTC [-] [10:07]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/smg-september-2013-statement/ [10:08]
ozbot S.MG, September 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [10:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.0099 = 0.8811 BTC [+] [10:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00092419 = 2.5877 BTC [-] {2} [11:12]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/i-was-right-you-were-wrong-again-feel-the-burn/ [11:17]
ozbot I was right, you were wrong. Again. Feel the burn. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [11:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 990 @ 0.00092443 = 0.9152 BTC [+] [11:27]
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assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 400 @ 0.005384 = 2.1536 BTC [+] [11:31]
mircea_popescu o hey, retardstalk got owned ? [11:35]
ColdHardMetal that's the word on the street. [11:37]
mircea_popescu i thought you had admin there ? wha happened ? [11:37]
ColdHardMetal who? me? no. [11:38]
mircea_popescu a ok. [11:38]
mircea_popescu weak avatar uploading script it seems. [11:39]
ColdHardMetal something like that. they were talking about it on reddit. [11:39]
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phish .d [11:40]
ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 641 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.8042% in 3d 10h 25m 11s [11:41]
mircea_popescu "Update: It's unfortunately worse than I thought. There's a good chance that the attacker(s) could have executed arbitrary PHP code and therefore could have accessed the database, but I'm not sure yet how difficult this would be. I'm sending out a mass mailing to all Forum users about this." [11:41]
mircea_popescu herp. [11:41]
mircea_popescu Figuring out the specifics is probably beyond my skills, so 50 BTC to the first person who tells me how this was done. (You have to convince me that your flaw was the one actually used.) The forum won't go back up until I know how this was done, so it could be down for a while. [11:42]
dub i hope they deleted the data and phantomcircuit was handling backups [11:42]
mircea_popescu i guess this is for the best. [11:43]
VanCleef i hope everything was salted [11:47]
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mircea_popescu passwords were apparently reasonably secure. nothing else obviously. i guess i'll get spam about buying btctalk pms now on top of everythinfg else. [11:47]
VanCleef useless pricks [11:52]
mircea_popescu funny thing is there was like what, 10k btc in the "donations to improve forum" stash [11:52]
jurov https://ia601904.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311.4.0.pdf if i read this correctly, feds hooked DPR to ask for murder? [11:56]
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mircea_popescu jurov you saw original complaint ? [11:58]
San1ty Hello [11:58]
San1ty wow btc-talk offline? [11:58]
mircea_popescu (the one this is superseeding) [11:58]
mircea_popescu San1ty haxed. [11:58]
mircea_popescu won't be back for a while. [11:58]
San1ty mircea_popescu: Wow, for a while? Not so easy to fix? [11:58]
jurov yes and here it is said straightly that the UC (undercover capacity) sent him fake photo of the murder [11:58]
mircea_popescu theymos is suspicious or something [11:58]
mircea_popescu jurov o yeah ?! [11:59]
mircea_popescu haha the plot thickens. [11:59]
mircea_popescu i wonder why go about it in this strange manner. [11:59]
Apocalyptic yes and here it is said straightly that the UC (undercover capacity) sent him fake photo of the murder // wtf [11:59]
jurov Apocalyptic: https://ia601904.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311.4.0.pdf [12:00]
Apocalyptic downloading now, seems farfetched to me [12:00]
mircea_popescu so did the first guy that drafted the first ocmplaint not know about this ? [12:00]
jurov hardly, they elaborate on whole process [12:00]
jurov seems so [12:00]
mircea_popescu as in, fbi AND dea were doing it ? [12:00]
mircea_popescu haha poor guy. [12:00]
jurov inception [12:01]
mircea_popescu he's fucked, basically. he will ge consecutive life terms, and he'll serve it in the high security ward [12:02]
mircea_popescu ie, with all the ACTUAL drug lords. [12:02]
VanCleef no he wont [12:02]
VanCleef he will cut a deal and snitch on everyone [12:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00028849 = 0.2885 BTC [+] [12:04]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-september-2013-statement/ [12:05]
ozbot BitBet, September 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [12:05]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^ [12:05]
mircea_popescu VanCleef deal to what ? [12:05]
mircea_popescu nah, im affraid they're making an example of him. [12:06]
mircea_popescu remember that kid that killed himself over whatever downloads ? [12:06]
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jurov mircea_popescu and did you pay mpoe divs already? i saw nothing [12:08]
mircea_popescu not yet no. [12:08]
mircea_popescu it's getting done this week. [12:09]
San1ty did anyone already get a notification from TaT about their neobee transfer? [12:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 120 @ 0.001214 = 0.1457 BTC [+] [12:10]
jcpham Jezzz joesmoe joeykrim jordandotdev jurov [12:10]
mircea_popescu nice find that indictment jurov. basically in the spring of 2013 silkroad was struggling to push 1kg of coke, [12:11]
mircea_popescu to the degree they ended up buying it themselves. [12:11]
mircea_popescu fucking ridiculous. [12:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 310 @ 0.00092443 = 0.2866 BTC [+] [12:13]
jurov imagine if it comes out that large part of sr volume was between various TLAs [12:20]
mircea_popescu seems likely at this point. [12:20]
mircea_popescu fbi made > 100 purchases of dea stuff [12:21]
mircea_popescu anyway, i updated my article from yest. the entire lulz angle isn't quite as adequate nao. [12:21]
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mircea_popescu holy shit HE WIRED MONEY [12:23]
mircea_popescu omfg. [12:24]
mircea_popescu this kid wired 40k usd to a capital one account in payment for a murder for hire to some guy he met on the internet [12:24]
mircea_popescu i need the rest of the day off here. [12:25]
Apocalyptic o;g [12:25]
Apocalyptic unreal [12:25]
Apocalyptic kid was a fucking joke [12:25]
VanCleef lol [12:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-] [12:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.9613 = 3.8452 BTC [-] [12:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.04353 = 0.1306 BTC [+] [12:43]
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dexX7 btctalk bounty still unclaimed? [13:31]
dexX7 those guys are hillarious [13:31]
dexX7 "special message from satoshi" -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2meowzEwIdw [13:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 157 @ 0.01 = 1.57 BTC [+] {2} [13:42]
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gribble Current Blocks: 261454 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 625 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 5 hours, 19 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 182871611.889 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.88173 [13:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share [15:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5299 @ 0.00092762 = 4.9155 BTC [-] [15:03]
kleeck http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/53166048/#53170418 [15:03]
ozbot Raw: Suspect beats up 75-year-old man - Video on NBCNews.com [15:03]
kleeck WTF ozbot? That's not the content. [15:04]
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josh16 mircea_popescu why didn't the price crash like a motherfucker, what do you think? [15:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.96 BTC [+] [15:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.0009305 = 3.9081 BTC [+] [15:14]
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josh16 cause SR was <5% of the Bitcoin economy? [15:20]
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VanCleef 80% of all bitcoin buying demand [15:21]
gecko_x2 bitcointalk down? [15:21]
dexX7 www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-VYiTs34s << [15:21]
Graet http://cryptolife.net/bitcointalk-hacked/ [15:22]
dexX7 + http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nmdq4/bitcointalk_hacked/ccjyjti [15:22]
gecko_x2 lol dexX7 [15:23]
gecko_x2 thx [15:23]
gecko_x2 hehehe [15:23]
gecko_x2 lol this vid [15:24]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.91976963 = 26.6733 BTC [-] {10} [15:48]
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deadweasel lol Graet, the question is, how many times has it already happened? [16:03]
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Graet bitcointalk hacked? this is about the 3rd time i remember [16:27]
nubbins` hi [16:27]
Graet funny how a decentralised currency relies so heavily on 1 forum :P [16:28]
nubbins` hey, there's reddit [16:28]
nubbins` ;p [16:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.8983846 = 14.3742 BTC [-] {4} [16:28]
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nubbins` anyway, death of tom clancy is obv related to both btctalk being down and dpr derping himself into custody [16:30]
kleeck also the Tattis. [16:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00978546 = 0.6458 BTC [-] {9} [16:30]
kleeck and Armond [16:30]
kleeck and Nefario [16:31]
kleeck and, of course, 9/11 which is tied to the Holocaust. [16:31]
dexX7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2meowzEwIdw [16:32]
ozbot Meteors Destroy Big Ben - YouTube [16:32]
dexX7 it is all connected >D [16:32]
kleeck lol [16:32]
kleeck favorite comment, "fake" [16:32]
kleeck Meteorite deniers are the worst. [16:33]
dexX7 that's "the special message from satoshi" to the btctalk users :S [16:33]
nubbins` lel [16:37]
nubbins` obv fake! [16:37]
nubbins` considering opening a site called the Milk Road [16:37]
nubbins` where vendors sell molokosynthemesc [16:38]
nubbins` and related substances [16:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00959075 = 0.7673 BTC [-] {4} [16:45]
VanCleef Tom Clancy new book was on SR [16:49]
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thestringpuller I can't believe DPR was operation out of the US [17:04]
thestringpuller so dumb [17:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 757 @ 0.00019786 = 0.1498 BTC [+] {2} [17:08]
Rawted lol im just reading about it too. [17:10]
Rawted ]he sure talked a big game [17:10]
Rawted bitcoiners, meh [17:10]
nubbins` heh [17:11]
nubbins` heavy lels when i read that his $80k "clean hit" was staged by the feds [17:12]
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nubbins` what a fucking dummy [17:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4719 @ 0.00092691 = 4.3741 BTC [-] {2} [17:12]
Rawted lol ya [17:13]
nubbins` and so hubris and vainglory became his undoing [17:13]
nubbins` real libertarian hero [17:13]
nubbins` ordering beatings and assassinations [17:13]
Rawted and on top of the murder for hire, this dumbass then buys a few dozen fake ids from the guy doing the hit, and bam, they can now match his known picture with the one used for the IDs [17:13]
nubbins` yeah [17:13]
nubbins` getting shit mailed to his house [17:13]
Rawted and in the end, he was just some holier than thou hipster [17:13]
nubbins` like... [17:13]
Rawted its amusing [17:14]
nubbins` half the people buying on SR took more precautions than he did [17:14]
jcpham i think it's funny because the criminal is being criticized by criminals [17:14]
nubbins` everybody is a criminal [17:14]
nubbins` you, me, everyone [17:14]
jcpham i'm not disagreeing [17:15]
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nubbins` well, who else would he be criticized by? there's nobody left [17:15]
jcpham what is crime? [17:15]
nubbins` what is reality? [17:16]
Rawted wow, he ssh'd directly into the site to admin it from a internet cafe [17:16]
Rawted lmao [17:16]
Rawted let's see $16/btc again please [17:16]
jcpham these labcoin explanation threads on reddit are also funny [17:16]
nubbins` wishful thinking [17:16]
kakobrekla >Well at least BitBet did better than BTCtalk and Silk Road this month. I blame the Somalian. [17:16]
kakobrekla im fucked till i die. [17:16]
nubbins` the price of BTC dipped for what, a couple hours? [17:17]
Rawted the whales can only hold the market up for so long [17:18]
nubbins` UH. [17:18]
nubbins` havelock: [17:18]
nubbins` There are insufficient funds in the Hot Wallet to process your withdraw. The site operators have been notified of your request and will move Bitcoins from Cold Storage. Please try your withdraw again after 1 full business day. [17:18]
Rawted everyone cashing out [17:18]
nubbins` fffffff.... [17:18]
nubbins` never trust another human with your money [17:18]
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nubbins` "I have gone through the mental exercise of spending a lifetime in prison and of dying for this cause. I have let the fear pass through me and with clarity commit myself fully to the mission and values outlined in the Silk Road charter." [17:27]
nubbins` lel [17:27]
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nubbins` don't worry guys, he THOUGHT about spending 60 years in jail and decided it's no biggie [17:28]
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kakobrekla where is that from nubbins` [17:29]
nubbins` http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/virtual-black-market-atlantis-walks.html [17:29]
ozbot Activist Post: Virtual black market Atlantis walks the plank, Dread Pirate Roberts humbled [17:29]
nubbins` that was from like 2 weeks ago [17:30]
kakobrekla ah [17:30]
kakobrekla k [17:30]
nubbins` would be interesting to see if he still holds those beliefs [17:30]
Rulother strange seeing havelock out number btct in trades [17:31]
nubbins` strange seeing them run out of BTC to cover withdrawals too [17:32]
Rawted btct is shutting down, no? [17:33]
nubbins` yes [17:33]
nubbins` oct 7? [17:33]
Rawted lots of bad stuff happening to btc [17:34]
nubbins` man. i called my bank today to see about opening a safety deposit box [17:34]
nubbins` they said [17:34]
nubbins` and i'm not shitting you [17:34]
nubbins` that they couldn't open the box that has all their keys in it [17:34]
nubbins` and so i'd have to wait until monday [17:34]
Rawted lol [17:34]
nubbins` "so safe that not even YOU can access it" [17:35]
kakobrekla 't [17:35]
nubbins` ;;seen chaangnoi [17:36]
gribble chaangnoi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 15 hours, 42 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: sorry for double post i fail at irc [17:36]
nubbins` ;;seen chaang-noi [17:36]
gribble chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: TOM FORD [17:36]
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asciilifeform http://techliberation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/SilkRoadProtectiveOrder.pdf [17:44]
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Namworld lol [17:46]
Namworld SR, now Bitcointalk.org [17:46]
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VanCleef gov is going through everyones messages and pm's n that [17:49]
VanCleef should we be worried? [17:49]
VanCleef or are they just looking for people who used sr? [17:49]
zoinky ? [17:50]
zoinky what makes you say that [17:50]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1587 @ 0.00127999 = 2.0313 BTC [+] {2} [17:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.85 = 18.7 BTC [-] [17:59]
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deadweasel messages were supposedly deleted after 30 days [18:00]
deadweasel so if you didn't use cleartext for the couple months before they got it, you should be ok. [18:00]
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taub 3.6 million in bit coins that was held in escrow [18:11]
taub so the us gov just got 1/7th of all bitcoins? [18:11]
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Namworld Bitcointalk.org will be back [18:12]
Graet yep, got eta tho? [18:13]
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zoinky taub, they have 3.6 million USD worth of bitcoin [18:14]
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Namworld btct.co isn't available either, lol [18:16]
Rulother I can use btct [18:16]
Namworld I get "Error: [18:17]
Namworld Xcoind backend failure at 135 [18:17]
Namworld whenever I try and open any page [18:17]
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taub aight zoinky [18:19]
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taub that makes more sense [18:19]
Rulother Well I can go through the site but can't make any trades [18:21]
plambert I was just using btct, works for me [18:21]
Rulother If that makes you feel any better :) [18:21]
plambert nevermind, I see the failure message when i try to buy [18:23]
plambert Is labcoin still a scam? [18:28]
Rulother Could be, we're working on getting more information out Sam/Labcoin and trying to get things moving onto BF [18:31]
Rulother If anything more so a failed project [18:31]
plambert this might sound like a silly queston, but on Havelock, where do you go to change your password? [18:31]
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samson_ I was reading on the silk road forums today, interesting stuff. Someone else got arrested in the UK. Someone who sells packaging supplies to silk roaders....It could be argued that selling packaging containers is not illegal but they arrested him and stole his computer anyway. [18:37]
zoinky he also sold seeds [18:37]
zoinky but thats not illegal either is it? [18:37]
samson_ I don't think so, not in the UK anyway [18:38]
zoinky http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nmfam/possible_first_raid_on_a_vendor/ [18:39]
ozbot Possible first raid on a vendor : SilkRoad [18:39]
samson_ yes, that's the same one from the forum [18:41]
samson_ They're looking for his customer list by the looks of it. He's out on bail already according to the forum [18:41]
zoinky nuts im sure more arrests will happen [18:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00093002 = 2.9761 BTC [+] [18:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.87 = 2.61 BTC [+] [18:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00290101 = 0.2959 BTC [-] [18:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00944782 = 0.822 BTC [-] {7} [18:51]
VanCleef yeeeeeeh my nicca posted bail [18:51]
VanCleef give em hell pirate [18:51]
zoinky ? [18:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+] [18:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 112 @ 0.00290002 = 0.3248 BTC [-] {2} [18:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1139 @ 0.0029 = 3.3031 BTC [-] {3} [18:54]
deadweasel I don't see my name in the btctalk dump: http://pastebin.com/4Hf37D9H [18:55]
kakobrekla only 5k there [18:57]
San1ty I forget the spam email I used on bitcointalk :D [18:57]
San1ty I don't know if I'm on there :p [18:57]
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zoinky where'd that get leaked from [18:58]
Rulother I'm not on there [18:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-] [19:00]
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kakobrekla only 5k users there [19:00]
kakobrekla cant you read [19:01]
Rulother No [19:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.0009303 = 2.6514 BTC [+] [19:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.14299996 = 0.286 BTC [+] [19:08]
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Rawted so what's keeping btc up? what are people spending their btc on now? [19:11]
Rawted i have to be honest, i always thought that if the silk road place went down, bitcoin would go with it, as i simply dont see enough commerce available. [19:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00093002 = 1.6275 BTC [-] [19:12]
kakobrekla Rawted http://trilema.com/2013/i-was-right-you-were-wrong-again-feel-the-burn/ [19:13]
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jcpham jcpham@tiscali.it [19:16]
jcpham SO MUCH ROFFL [19:16]
Apocalyptic heh [19:17]
pankkake .it => scammer [19:17]
jcpham it's not even me [19:18]
jcpham frankly i see a lot of important names though [19:18]
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jcpham fo sho [19:19]
jcpham i say targeted list [19:19]
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zoinky Rawted, i imagine the silkroad community is hooked and just looking for alternatives. [19:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1405 @ 0.00127999 = 1.7984 BTC [-] {2} [19:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00128 = 0.32 BTC [+] [19:24]
asciilifeform http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/10/lavabit_unsealed/ [19:24]
ozbot Edward Snowden's E-Mail Provider Defied FBI Demands to Turn Over Crypto Keys, Documents Show | Threa [19:24]
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nubbins` hi [19:25]
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afrotec Levison is the man [19:27]
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kakobrekla also FBI doesnt know how to use a scanner [19:30]
kakobrekla i mean shit, its same way i store my privates [19:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00092926 = 1.8121 BTC [-] {2} [19:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00093095 = 0.9775 BTC [+] [19:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00127 = 0.127 BTC [-] [19:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00093095 = 2.1877 BTC [+] [19:50]
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nubbins` i store my privates in a jar on my wife's nightstand [19:51]
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mjoiii_ I store my privates in my wife [19:53]
mjoiii_ From time to time [19:53]
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KRS-1 me too. [19:54]
KRS-1 Thank you for that. [19:54]
mjoiii_ Yeah thought I'd share [19:54]
KRS-1 Sharing is caring. [19:55]
mjoiii_ Oh shit over my head... You bastard! [19:55]
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kakobrekla i keep my privates encrypted and printed on paper on location A and B, and the key to unlock those in location C and D [19:56]
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nubbins` oh, shit, we're talking about keys! [19:56]
nubbins` lel, so embarassed, &c [19:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00999899 = 0.4999 BTC [+] {2} [20:05]
b0n1 http://pastebin.com/6S2H21eF [20:06]
ozbot bitcointalk.org db dump (150k records) - Pastebin.com [20:06]
ieatcows yikes [20:07]
kakobrekla prolly faek [20:07]
Rannasha Hmm.. I'm disappointed that they guy didn't even send 2-3 BTC transactions to that address to at least make it appear as if people are taking the offer [20:08]
Rannasha The BTC address has not seen any transactions. [20:08]
pankkake e-mails and hashed passwords? pretty much useless [20:08]
nubbins` yep [20:09]
nubbins` why the fuck would anyone buy that? [20:09]
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pankkake spammers buy e-mail lists [20:09]
kakobrekla http://pastebin.com/qTuekr3b [20:09]
ozbot bitcointalk.org db dump with over 150K emails and hashed passwords; get a pri - Pastebin.com [20:09]
nubbins` but for 25 BTC? [20:09]
pankkake probably not [20:10]
nubbins` that's almost 2 cents per email! [20:10]
nubbins` highway robbery [20:10]
pankkake and the mtgox mails are already a good db for bticoin spams [20:10]
kakobrekla at that time their db was small [20:10]
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jcpham but can't i just watch that address and mitm the list now [20:13]
jcpham when someone pays him, email him and say it was me [20:13]
jcpham i bet he challenges it wanting something signed too [20:13]
nubbins` no doubt [20:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.14299996 = 0.286 BTC [+] [20:14]
robitnik anyone heard from burnside? no trading on btct.co for 7 hours. [20:18]
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b0n1 https://blockchain.info/address/1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11 [20:18]
ozbot Bitcoin Address 1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11 [20:19]
nubbins` seems legit, i will send all my coins there [20:19]
nubbins` 1 sec [20:19]
afrotec plunge when it comes back i bet [20:22]
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Rulother Yeah not looking forward to that [20:24]
Rulother Does anyone remember btct's address? btc addy [20:24]
afrotec *if it comes back [20:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11000 @ 0.00027999 = 3.0799 BTC [-] {3} [20:24]
jborkl i guess we are all going to have to move over to Yahoo message board [20:27]
Rulother For the amount of trolls on btctalk, wouldn't 4chan be better? [20:27]
lewicki .d [20:28]
ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 562 blocks | Estimated Change: 24.1651% in 2d 22h 44m 56s [20:28]
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nubbins` gold coins vs gold wafers, any thoughts? [20:29]
Rulother gold waffles? [20:30]
nubbins` the fuck [20:30]
nubbins` someone in #bitcoin suggested gold pancakes [20:30]
nubbins` you guise! :( [20:30]
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Rulother The Flap Jack Miner 2000 [20:32]
jborkl you know this shows I am old or something. I have never been to 4chan [20:33]
Rulother 4chan is pretty old, but don't worry it's a silly place [20:33]
Rulother It's mainly Troll HQ [20:34]
jborkl I am not much into reading troll, I can't even stand -otc [20:34]
nubbins` -otc is generally teenagers trying to buy and sell btc through the most arcane, convoluted means possible [20:35]
nubbins` at least, that's what i gather [20:35]
Rulother It can be amusing to read sometimes, they will hijack (not hack) several voting events like I believe the Hijacked Justin Bieber's voting page once on his site with "Where should Justin go next?" And had all the members vote for North Korea [20:36]
jborkl yeah or they are mentally challenged, one of the two [20:36]
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afrotec hahaha i love when they do that. theres a lot of followers, can be a powerful force [20:37]
ieatcows whats the deal with ADDICTION? they getting some miners soon? [20:37]
jborkl I did very much enjoy the mac webkit error that kicked you off IRC [20:37]
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nubbins` webkit ftw [20:37]
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nubbins` it's my favourite rendering engine! [20:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1770 @ 0.00022701 = 0.4018 BTC [-] [20:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6778 @ 0.00022701 = 1.5387 BTC [-] {3} [20:48]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5407 @ 0.00022701 = 1.2274 BTC [-] [21:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00027999 = 0.14 BTC [+] [21:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 348 @ 0.00934878 = 3.2534 BTC [-] {21} [21:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00093135 = 2.1421 BTC [+] [21:30]
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gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 130.01000, Best ask: 130.10398, Bid-ask spread: 0.09398, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 65013.66466618, 24 hour low: 118.23000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 126.12904 [21:39]
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lewicki .d [21:42]
ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 556 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.8005% in 2d 22h 29m 6s [21:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00812253 = 0.1625 BTC [-] {2} [21:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 525 @ 0.00123857 = 0.6502 BTC [-] {6} [21:44]
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plambert is btct working yet? [21:46]
plambert nope, still has error message [21:48]
zoinky ? [21:49]
zoinky im on btct [21:49]
dexX7 try to buy/sell ... won't work [21:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00801308 = 0.2644 BTC [-] {2} [21:50]
zoinky ah [21:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00800003 = 0.224 BTC [-] [21:51]
plambert anybody know how to contact burnsides to get btct back up again? [21:51]
kakobrekla call 080-NEFARIOUS [21:51]
imsaguy wasn't that in the announcement? [21:51]
imsaguy that on a certain date, trading would stop? [21:52]
plambert did you see the news that the helpline for ObamaCare is 1-800-F1U-CKYO ? [21:52]
plambert imsaguy - I thought trading went until the 7th? [21:53]
imsaguy I don't know the date. [21:53]
imsaguy I don't use the exchange. [21:53]
imsaguy I'm just going based on what I can remember from what I read. [21:53]
plambert "October 7, 2013, all forms of secondary market trading will be halted on both sites" from the website [21:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00093352 = 4.0141 BTC [+] {4} [21:55]
plambert what's the number in the curly braces at the end of the ticker mean? [21:55]
Rannasha the number of trades that were condensed into the single report [21:56]
Rannasha so the last report means that 4 trades were executed, totalling 4300 shares, average price of 0.00093352 [21:57]
dexX7 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Hacker-Claims-He-s-Selling-Data-Stolen-from-Bitcointalk-org-for-25BTC-Exclusive-388252.shtml [21:57]
plambert damn hackers [21:59]
jurov is he selling deleted posts, too? would buy for lulz [21:59]
plambert Are the passwords each hashed individually, or once he breaks the encryption for one he can read all of them? [22:01]
dexX7 http://pastebin.com/4Hf37D9H the sample [22:02]
ozbot bitcoin***.org - Pastebin.com [22:02]
kakobrekla plambert no [22:02]
plambert no what? [22:02]
jurov that's question for theymos... if he used standard salted hashes then only easy passwords can be cracked [22:02]
dexX7 "Passwords are hashed using sha256crypt with 7500 rounds (very strong)" [22:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4997 @ 0.00093611 = 4.6777 BTC [+] {2} [22:07]
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jurov eeeh? gonna increase my fat-finger-catch asks [22:11]
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jurov on s.mpoe [22:11]
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FabianB jurov: what are fat-finger-catch asks? for accidental buys? [22:15]
jurov yes, if one places buy for s.mpoe at market place.. or puts decimal dot in wrong place [22:17]
jurov happened serveral times on mpex already [22:17]
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FabianB jurov: yeah, but noticed it mostly downwards [22:18]
jurov only 45k shares for sale atm [22:18]
FabianB very thin, noone wants to sell [22:18]
lewicki interested to see what becaomes of the 600,000 bitcoins [22:21]
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kakobrekla what if someone does that on coinbr [22:23]
kakobrekla you gonna take the gap? [22:24]
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afrotec ;;me [22:25]
gribble Error: "me" is not a valid command. [22:25]
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jurov kakobrekla: what exactly? putting in unfavorable price? [22:26]
kakobrekla well [22:27]
jurov it will still get dutifully placed on mpex and mpex will duly fill it and report cross-trade (an undocumented feature) [22:27]
plambert say somebody says "sell at 0.0000001" and they actually sell at 0.001, do you credit them the 0.001 or the 0.0000001? [22:27]
jurov no, i credit them real sell price [22:28]
b0n1 https://blockchain.info/address/1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11 look at the notes... haha ;) [22:29]
ozbot Bitcoin Address 1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11 [22:29]
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Rulother amazing [22:32]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [22:32]
Rulother dammit [22:32]
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kakobrekla midge doesnt give a fuck. [22:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [-] [22:32]
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jurov ;;bc,convert eur [22:43]
gribble 1 BTC = 130.12900 U.S. dollars = 96.2350244 Euros [22:43]
jurov ;;seen davout [22:43]
gribble davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: mircea_popescu: there's still work to get everything smoothly running [22:43]
jurov indeed...waiting almos a week for verfication [22:44]
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kakobrekla hm [22:45]
kakobrekla yeah i might register as well there [22:45]
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kakobrekla since i ditched the two cans and a string exchange [22:45]
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jurov you weren't there before? my old account still works, just needs reverification [22:47]
kakobrekla i wasnt [22:47]
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plambert looks like the price has pretty much bounced back from yesterday's "crash!!1! omg the sky is falling this is the end of bitcoins" [22:50]
kakobrekla crackheads ran out of btc to sell [22:51]
jurov plambert: i guess hedge fund managers used any panic sells to slightly improve their btc position [22:51]
plambert Who here got the cheapest bitcoins? I got some for about 105 [22:51]
kakobrekla yea [22:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00093429 = 0.654 BTC [-] [22:52]
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gimme_bottles what's up with btc-tc? no trades in 10 hours [23:10]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-] [23:15]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0085 = 0.17 BTC [+] [23:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0084956 = 0.2549 BTC [-] {3} [23:43]
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Kleeck_ .d [23:50]
ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 539 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.9647% in 2d 20h 3m 30s [23:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2815 @ 0.00093429 = 2.63 BTC [-] [23:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4235 @ 0.0009366 = 3.9665 BTC [+] {2} [23:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00093073 = 2.2803 BTC [-] {2} [23:59]
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