Forum logs for 03 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00075923 = 12.1477 BTC [-]	[00:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1262 @ 0.00075924 = 0.9582 BTC [+]	[00:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10457 @ 0.000763 = 7.9787 BTC [+]	[00:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00076342 = 7.6342 BTC [+]	[00:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00076508 = 10.9024 BTC [+]	[00:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00076655 = 8.892 BTC [+]	[00:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00076844 = 7.6844 BTC [+]	[00:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6799 = 1.3598 BTC [+]	[00:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00076944 = 8.8486 BTC [+]	[00:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 650 @ 0.2674139 = 173.819 BTC [-]	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m ^oix	[00:04]
assbot	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 27.06923527 / 42.61596516 / 44.80704907 (no shares, 12,332.19 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[00:04]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.19001, Best ask: 34.24800, Bid-ask spread: 0.05799, Last trade: 34.24800, 24 hour volume: 40994.03888350, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 33.96591	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 12332.19*33.96	[00:04]
gribble	418801.1724	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	this oix thing... it's actually pretty grounded	[00:05]
Bugpowder	I just wonder how much of the tracking of it to BTC price is due to the MPOE bot's algorithm vs. true market sentiment	[00:06]
Bugpowder	there is, of course, a limit to how far a put or call imbalance can push the OIX	[00:06]
Bugpowder	also, have you examined its predictive power?	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	actually, there was a point where the oix was pushed to like 90	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	the red horiz line on the graph	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	but how do you mean about mpoe bot ?	[00:06]
Bugpowder	was that near opex?	[00:06]
Bugpowder	whatever you call the option market making bot	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder i think miodterm. i think it was on an otherwise empty book someone buying some weird far out call	[00:07]
Bugpowder	like at this time horizion out, even a 100-0 call put ratio can only push the OIX so high dependent on the call price	[00:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0064 = 0.64 BTC [+]	[00:08]
Bugpowder	Is the OIX the like CO2? A trailing indicator?	[00:08]
Bugpowder	:)	[00:08]
mod6	ahh, its in the vwap now :)	[00:08]
mod6	sweet	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder well, haerd to tell really.	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	what do you make of that graph ?	[00:09]
Bugpowder	it's highly correlated!	[00:09]
Bugpowder	you, or someone (or me) should look at it's predictive power	[00:09]
Bugpowder	is there historical option trade data available?	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	well, if you kept the logs...	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	tell you what, if you promise to write a good statistical analysis and publish it i'll send you the ~300 datapoints on that graph	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	daily oix and daily btc/usd vwap	[00:11]
Bugpowder	Let me consult with my statistical wizard friend	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	by all means.	[00:11]
jurov	to me it looks more just glorified call/put sold ratio	[00:12]
Bugpowder	of course if there IS predictive power	[00:12]
Bugpowder	maybe I don't want to publish ;)	[00:12]
jurov	because most of calls have same breakeven point, puts likewise	[00:12]
Bugpowder	jurov the C750T calls dont	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder the thing is, my bet is that there is predictive power of arbitrary precision for contiguous subsets	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	which are dispersed in the full dataset	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	it'd only be fair in the fucked sense that term takes in any natural science/	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	jurov they don't really have the same breakeven point	[00:13]
jurov	i found them being +- 1BTC	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	draw the graph if you will, it's a symetrical butterfly.	[00:13]
jurov	er... +-1USD	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	O.BTCUSD.P290T sells 0.14869039	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	O.BTCUSD.P590T sells 0.96290455	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 29 / (1 - 0.14869039)	[00:15]
gribble	34.0651622622	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	eh my bad	[00:15]
ThickAsThieves	gonna try and explain bitcoin to the wife tomorrow...	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 29 / (1 + 0.14869039)	[00:15]
gribble	25.2461413906	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 59 / (1 + 0.96290455)	[00:15]
gribble	30.057498211	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	5.	[00:15]
jurov	so,i remember wrong again.. maybe i considered just narrower range	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	O.BTCUSD.C290T = 0.32626257 ; O.BTCUSD.C590T = 0.06210314	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 29 / (1 - 0.32626257)	[00:16]
gribble	43.0434746664	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 59 / (1 - 0.06210314)	[00:16]
gribble	62.9067038352	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	19	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	there's a very speciffic=looking graph of the options breakeven points if you calc them all out	[00:16]
thestringpuller	it's all pointing to 42	[00:18]
thestringpuller	imo	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	totally.	[00:18]
thestringpuller	:)	[00:18]
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gribble	1 BTC = 34.06157 U.S. dollars = 26.1649793 Euros	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136226300119.png	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	looking at it roughly : A totally took a bite of concrete, B sort of predicted something, but muchkly exaggerated.	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	C however actually predicts.	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	so maybe predictive power is actually monotonous.	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	monotonic*	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	also the crazyspike pre-A does sort of predict	[00:26]
gribble	1 BTC = 34.02000 U.S. dollars = 26.1330466 Euros	[00:26]
Bugpowder	Hmmm.... Is this 24hprc?	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	yes	[00:26]
Bugpowder	A lot of the option purchases occur when there is a large divergence between realtime spot price and 24hprc	[00:27]
Bugpowder	in which case, we might be able to say (the spot price predicts future 24hprc)	[00:28]
Bugpowder	as filtered through options purchases.	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	this is not actually true tho.	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	for instance right now	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[00:28]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.10101, Best ask: 34.20462, Bid-ask spread: 0.10361, Last trade: 34.02000, 24 hour volume: 40252.89496290, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 33.95090	[00:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.00073 = 0.365 BTC [+]	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	the difference is small, yet i just sold 80% of the month's book	[00:28]
Bugpowder	that big option buy today is the exception that proves the rule	[00:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.67 = 2.01 BTC [-]	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	many times it was the case that large buys didn't match the theory	[00:29]
Bugpowder	bah	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	moreover, there was a huge differential for days till yest	[00:29]
Bugpowder	maybe	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	that yielded no actual purchases	[00:29]
Bugpowder	bah	[00:29]
Bugpowder	humbug	[00:29]
Bugpowder	ok	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	well it was a good theory, but i don't think it meets the data so far	[00:29]
Bugpowder	well MY options purchases occur during divergence periods	[00:30]
Bugpowder	hehehe	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	that's fine :)	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	but sometimes you made and sometimes you lost on that strategy	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	so in short i doubt the short term anything but weakly predicts the vwap	[00:30]
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Bugpowder	It's available! http://imgur.com/UBC60Vf	[00:54]
Bugpowder	BITCOIN is not though	[00:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 94 @ 0.002125 = 0.1998 BTC [+]	[00:56]
gribble	1 BTC = 34.12900 U.S. dollars = 26.2167768 Euros	[00:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7549 @ 0.00077 = 5.8127 BTC [+]	[01:01]
Bugpowder	sweet	[01:04]
Bugpowder	love getting SMS from localbitcoins.com	[01:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7382 @ 0.00077 = 5.6841 BTC [+]	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	haha for the tesla ?	[01:23]
Bugpowder	still working on that	[01:23]
Bugpowder	got a USB stick for that wallet	[01:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.6 = 9.6 BTC [+]	[01:24]
Bugpowder	just waiting for coins to go up a bit more...	[01:24]
Bugpowder	yeah	[01:24]
Bugpowder	Also need to move to LA	[01:24]
Bugpowder	so you know, I can charge my car	[01:24]
Bugpowder	my bit car	[01:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.674 = 13.48 BTC [+]	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	"Sums up this subreddit pretty well."	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha wibn	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	who did that ?	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/c8omekb	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	that's your guy.	[01:26]
jurov	hehe thx	[01:27]
jurov	i'm just engrossed deep into taming mktdepth data to be used in google spreadsheet	[01:28]
jurov	since namworld failed in that	[01:28]
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jurov	or he just exhausted all time in making pretty background, dunno	[01:29]
kakobrekla	lol	[01:30]
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Anduck	yea man listen him!	[01:30]
Anduck	remove 30btc fee and make it point + click	[01:31]
Anduck	and preferable drag&drop too	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	im too busy with http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134290700472.jpg	[01:31]
jurov	also, existing coinbr users may want to put their referral link there... but i may as well keep these 0.2% to myself :P	[01:31]
Bugpowder	oh my	[01:34]
Bugpowder	that's nice	[01:34]
thestringpuller	Images sent from mircea_popescu pie chart: http://i.imgur.com/1Y97ZnK.png	[01:35]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller :D	[01:35]
kakobrekla	you are overestimating bitcoin part	[01:35]
kakobrekla	take of a zero.	[01:36]
Bugpowder	there is no overlap?	[01:36]
kakobrekla	off	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla you take it off.	[01:36]
*	kakobrekla takes it off.	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder yes there is. proof : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136026418899.jpg	[01:36]
kakobrekla	lol	[01:37]
Bugpowder	I liked the previous one 100,000,000% more	[01:37]
thestringpuller	He photobombed us with balls	[01:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 110 @ 0.00610825 = 0.6719 BTC [-]	[01:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00610824 = 3.0541 BTC [-]	[01:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00610823 = 0.6108 BTC [-]	[01:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1747 @ 0.00601401 = 10.5065 BTC [-]	[01:42]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[01:42]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.00501, Best ask: 34.12401, Bid-ask spread: 0.11900, Last trade: 34.12401, 24 hour volume: 37039.65816349, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.80800, 24 hour vwap: 33.87769	[01:42]
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mircea_popescu	a well.	[01:43]
thestringpuller	when do satoshi dice dividends pay?	[01:43]
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mircea_popescu	any day now.	[01:43]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, off to play path of exile with my all-female clan. bbiab.	[01:44]
thestringpuller	You get some good potential sitcom/dark comedy plots in /r/BreakUps: http://www.reddit.com/r/BreakUps/comments/19jjeu/one_of_his_five_girlfriendsat_the_same_time/	[01:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00073887 = 11.8219 BTC [-]	[01:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5554 @ 0.00073886 = 4.1036 BTC [-]	[01:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96 @ 0.00073315 = 0.0704 BTC [-]	[01:57]
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kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134799.msg1576586#msg1576586	[02:03]
kakobrekla	kinda funny.	[02:04]
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jurov	fuck, i forgot to run monthly fee :D	[02:05]
Bugpowde_	Wonder how much time he spent on that	[02:05]
thestringpuller	Bugpowda	[02:08]
thestringpuller	You are my favorite scientist atm. Bill Nye ain't got nuttin on you.	[02:08]
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Bugpowde_	<3	[02:10]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 85 @ 0.71002991 = 60.3525 BTC	[02:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 225 @ 0.64837795 = 145.885 BTC	[02:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 450 @ 0.58814383 = 264.6647 BTC	[02:15]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 675 @ 0.52952177 = 357.4272 BTC	[02:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 815 @ 0.47272814 = 385.2734 BTC	[02:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 680 @ 0.41800212 = 284.2414 BTC	[02:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 445 @ 0.36560587 = 162.6946 BTC [+]	[02:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 295 @ 0.31582454 = 93.1682 BTC	[02:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 105 @ 0.26896955 = 28.2418 BTC [+]	[02:17]
jurov	;;ticker m oix^	[02:17]
gribble	(ticker [--bid\|--ask\|--last\|--high\|--low\|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)	[02:17]
jurov	;;ticker m ^oix	[02:18]
gribble	(ticker [--bid\|--ask\|--last\|--high\|--low\|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)	[02:18]
jurov	!ticker m ^oix	[02:18]
assbot	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 28.20780706 / 40.92334054 / 44.82313733 (no shares, 14,082.43 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)	[02:18]
jurov	just 0.02 change?	[02:18]
Bugpowde_	shorting	[02:18]
Bugpowde_	?	[02:19]
Bugpowde_	Bot buys don't count	[02:19]
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jurov	why? only sells?	[02:19]
jurov	that's nonsense	[02:19]
Bugpowde_	Nprpreents double counting	[02:19]
Bugpowde_	Prevents	[02:19]
jurov	if i do split and short sell, that sell is counted in, no?	[02:20]
thestringpuller	(42 - 51) / 51	[02:21]
thestringpuller	;;calc (42 - 51) / 51	[02:21]
gribble	-0.176470588235	[02:21]
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Bugpowde_	Dunno	[02:21]
Bugpowde_	Those were real buys	[02:22]
Bugpowde_	Not shorts	[02:22]
jurov	it should have no regard where the options come from	[02:22]
jurov	anyway based on my spreadsheet shenanigans, the breakeven point is a bit different from real profitability	[02:23]
Bugpowde_	It moved over $2 btw	[02:23]
Bugpowde_	The calls only price didn't move	[02:24]
Bugpowde_	But tr joint price dropped to $40	[02:24]
jurov	from 44.80704907 -> 44.82313733	[02:24]
jurov	avg is the middle number? ah yes	[02:24]
thestringpuller	Topic jack: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100426131644AAKwLMj - discuss	[02:25]
Bugpowde_	Inhibitor23 reddit comment reeks of mp writing it	[02:25]
Bugpowde_	I never answer questions that end with "discuss"	[02:26]
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Bugpowde_	Such a presumption that the question is worth discussion!	[02:26]
TradeFortress	Selling up to 100 ASICMINER shares, pm me with offers.	[02:26]
kakobrekla	5btc	[02:27]
jurov	TradeFortress ask topace he's doing pt	[02:27]
jurov	or burnside?	[02:27]
TradeFortress	hmm I thought burnside had enough shares for now	[02:27]
thestringpuller	"mircea, if you were half as smart as you think you are, you wouldn't confuse coinbase and coinlab. you'd also have invented antigravity and a time machine, but that's beside the point." - whatcha have to say about that mr. popescu?	[02:27]
TradeFortress	but thanks jurov	[02:27]
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jurov	;;id denialdenial	[02:29]
gribble	Error: "id" is not a valid command.	[02:29]
denialdenial	what up yo	[02:29]
denialdenial	i let my slip show	[02:30]
thestringpuller	jurov: is my account just inactive? I don't have to register and blah blah blah aain no?	[02:30]
thestringpuller	again*	[02:30]
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jurov	you don't have to do anything. but it's good to check just in case	[02:30]
denialdenial	y u ident me	[02:31]
denialdenial	i havve a new nick so waht want to fight about it	[02:31]
jurov	i remember paying out s.bvps to someone who has withdrawn everything (perhaps thinking he'll avoid monthly fee which isn't the case)	[02:31]
jurov	;;dox denialdenial	[02:32]
gribble	Error: "dox" is not a valid command.	[02:32]
TradeFortress	lol	[02:32]
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thestringpuller	that was me jurov	[02:33]
thestringpuller	SO	[02:34]
thestringpuller	what's that supposed to mean	[02:34]
thestringpuller	I'm going to have HUGE monthly fee?	[02:34]
thestringpuller	>:(	[02:34]
thestringpuller	IF and only if I were to ever go back.	[02:34]
jurov	as long as there's anything on your account (even if you have 0 btc), you pay	[02:34]
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thestringpuller	congratulations! the first BTC Debt account ever created by moi cause I'm never logging back in if that's the case har har har	[02:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 24 @ 0.20220992 = 4.853 BTC [-]	[02:35]
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jurov	thestringpuller, i went to extra hassle to intimidate poor namworld into paying out	[02:36]
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mjr_	hi all	[02:36]
kakobrekla	hi	[02:36]
jurov	and this is the result. in the future i'll just terminate the asset without any recompensation >:D	[02:36]
mjr_	thanks for following me :)	[02:36]
jurov	and refer everyone to thestringpuller :D	[02:37]
mjr_	@btcshares	[02:37]
thestringpuller	all the money that I had in conibr went to smickles	[02:37]
thestringpuller	so I will refer people to smickles	[02:37]
mjr_	you are bets of bitcoins right?	[02:37]
kakobrekla	no	[02:37]
mjr_	oh nvm	[02:37]
mjr_	thought that was a nickname for bbet	[02:37]
kakobrekla	bitbet?	[02:38]
kakobrekla	bets of bitcoins is some other site	[02:38]
jurov	thestringpuller, srsly. so you want to wipe the acct completely?	[02:38]
mjr_	yes, i see they are two different sites now	[02:38]
mjr_	hey jurov, sorry i am negative, should i liquidate a position or can we wait for s.dice dividends?	[02:40]
mjr_	i thought they would be in by now	[02:40]
jurov	they will be anytime till March 5	[02:40]
mjr_	k, if that is too long i can liquidate mpoe	[02:41]
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mjr_	or i will just fund some more	[02:41]
TradeFortress	prehaps it's because S.DICE wants bigger dividends this month so they're delaying it until the 5th	[02:43]
mjr_	yeah, i'll fund some more, should be in by tomorrow morning, hopefully i can scoop up some more s.dice too lol	[02:43]
mjr_	TradeFortress: pretty sure they will just cut it off at the 28th and the rest goes toward next month	[02:44]
mjr_	i know that whole group is on a trip at the moment	[02:44]
mjr_	but from what i saw on a forum post, it seems they had a good month	[02:44]
TradeFortress	hmm yeah	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-disaster/	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	if i do split and short sell, that sell is counted in, no? << no. bot's sales only.	[02:46]
TradeFortress	LOL	[02:46]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller : that's nice, my antigrav unit is humming quietly in the basement. now what ?	[02:46]
mjr_	lol nice post mp	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	i bet.	[02:48]
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mircea_popescu	prehaps it's because S.DICE wants bigger dividends this month so they're delaying it until the 5th << that's not how it works, divs are for feb	[02:49]
thestringpuller	voorhees is busy atm	[02:50]
thestringpuller	just like everyone	[02:50]
TradeFortress	mircea_popescu, yeah, I get it now	[02:51]
TradeFortress	:)	[02:51]
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mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/	[02:51]
mircea_popescu	4:1 for. i wonder	[02:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 38 @ 0.006296 = 0.2392 BTC [-]	[02:53]
mircea_popescu	EDIT: I found a formula which is almost correct for WEIGHT > 3000, it is:	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	Reward = TOTAL * 0.99 * MY_BET * SQRT(LOG(WEIGHT))WEIGHT^(1/6.0) / Sum_all(winning_bets SQRT(LOG(WEIGHT))*WEIGHT^(1/6.0))	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla dude that's rad.	[02:55]
kakobrekla	:DD	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	he actually interpolated with logs and whatnot ?!	[02:55]
kakobrekla	yeah i was liek wtf mate	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	at least he doesn't have cauchy operators in there	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	or like, wave functions.	[02:56]
kakobrekla	:)	[02:56]
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kakobrekla	maybe even rand()	[02:56]
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mircea_popescu	stfu giving away secret bitbet sauce like that	[02:56]
kakobrekla	;)	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	"This is awesome! I didn't even know such an exchange existed."	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	reddit.	[02:58]
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jurov	maybe that dude ran critticall over bbet data	[03:01]
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TradeFortress	reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/c8ol2c0	[03:03]
mjr_	lol, this is the best irc channel ever	[03:03]
mjr_	someone should really make a tv show about bitcoin...the drama lol	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	TradeFortress yea totally.	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ it is!	[03:04]
mjr_	note to self: start writing pilot based on bitcoins	[03:04]
jurov	er... plot?	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	jurov like seinfeld.	[03:05]
mjr_	no pilot	[03:05]
mjr_	pilot episode for people to watch and decide to buy a season	[03:05]
mjr_	not that i have ever done that	[03:05]
mjr_	but hey how hard can it be right lol	[03:05]
mjr_	maybe go straight to netflix or something	[03:06]
jurov	i recommend it to involve satoshi building it all only for him be able to raise money for clay mugs workshop and troll around	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	i'd like to do a porny show.	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	it'd be a sitcum	[03:06]
mjr_	HAHAHA	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	sadly i don't have the time / it doesn't pay enough	[03:06]
mjr_	you know what they say...	[03:06]
mjr_	the man who does what he loves never works a day in his ligfe	[03:06]
TradeFortress	Unexpected token )	[03:06]
TradeFortress	fuuu	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	but srsly, the funny life of this guy who lives with like, 5 chicks.	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	that are naked while indoors	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	and sometimes outdoors	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	and sometimes wear strange contraptions	[03:07]
mjr_	if anyone wants to see a really crappy website, feel free to check out btcshares.com	[03:07]
mjr_	its basically just a placeholder	[03:07]
jurov	and judging from the photos, never wear hair	[03:07]
mjr_	for now	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	did TradeFortress make it ?	[03:07]
mjr_	nope, yours truly	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	jurov notice that all hair is wet ?	[03:08]
mjr_	100% mjr original	[03:08]
TradeFortress	what?	[03:08]
mjr_	except for all the copying and pasting	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	lmao welcome to donate bitcoin	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	that's a concept	[03:08]
mjr_	hahaha	[03:08]
mjr_	yes	[03:08]
mjr_	that is the service i provide	[03:08]
mjr_	a place to donate bitcoins to me	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	it's also not alligned	[03:08]
mjr_	i know	[03:08]
mjr_	which is extremely annoying to me	[03:09]
mjr_	like i said, placeholder	[03:09]
mjr_	i worked on all the backend stuff today	[03:09]
mjr_	tomorrow i try to do design stuff	[03:09]
jurov	data-address="1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX"	[03:09]
mjr_	but i set up twitter, email, admin stuff...and got the website online	[03:09]
jurov	i stole ya address	[03:09]
TradeFortress	mjr_ doesn't even change the cursor	[03:09]
mjr_	tomorrow we design	[03:09]
mircea_popescu	TradeFortress just jabbing at you re your forum encounter	[03:10]
mjr_	which cursor?	[03:10]
mjr_	oh for the donate button?	[03:10]
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TradeFortress	yup	[03:11]
mjr_	yeah, well, i included that only to try it out	[03:11]
mjr_	and cuz i wanted to get the btcshares label for an address	[03:11]
TradeFortress	mircea_popescu, lol	[03:11]
mjr_	although maybe i will try to get a vanity address	[03:11]
mjr_	i made that site in under an hour just to test switching domain stuff and getting dns in order	[03:11]
mjr_	like 5 min might be more accurate as far as design and aesthetics	[03:12]
jurov	do you sell ads?	[03:12]
mjr_	no	[03:12]
mjr_	don't plan on it	[03:12]
mjr_	i plan on just hosting my performance and financials there	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	are you in the wot ?	[03:12]
mjr_	eventually	[03:12]
mjr_	i am not as of yhet	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	do that first.	[03:12]
mjr_	good idea	[03:13]
mjr_	how do you establish trust though?	[03:13]
mjr_	i am not going to trade at all	[03:13]
mjr_	i just use exchanges	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	performance as financials as to what then ?	[03:13]
mjr_	oh, i am getting $ clients	[03:14]
mjr_	people who know about bitcoins probbably can figure it out for themselves	[03:14]
mjr_	but old people with cash can't	[03:14]
jurov	mjr_ if you use coinbr you can ask me to look up. i'll then rate you like "-10 did not pay coinbr monthly fee"	[03:14]
mjr_	lol	[03:14]
makomk	malaimo markedathome\|wth maximian midnightmagic MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mjr_ mjr__ mod6 molec	[03:14]
mjr_	true	[03:14]
mjr_	although to be fair i paid most of it so far	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ lisrten, that's half of the story. what do you do with the bitcoins ?	[03:14]
mjr_	s.dice	[03:14]
mjr_	mpoe	[03:14]
mjr_	options	[03:15]
mjr_	etc	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	so suppose one day you loan some shares out to someone	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	rated.	[03:15]
mjr_	hopefully lend them	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	some other day maybe you borrow.	[03:15]
BitHub	i currently do this for older or newb people as well	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	rated.	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	etc.	[03:15]
mjr_	yes very true	[03:15]
mjr_	i will need it	[03:15]
mjr_	and i will probably eventually need a seat on mpex	[03:15]
BitHub	i charge a 10% helpers fee	[03:15]
mjr_	i also have a mining operation getting under way	[03:16]
mjr_	FPGA's...	[03:16]
mjr_	but not little puny ones	[03:16]
mjr_	BIG ones	[03:16]
mjr_	hoping for 10GH per card	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	um	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	which cards are these ?	[03:16]
BitHub	make sure you try ordering from BFL labs today	[03:16]
mjr_	start with 3 cards...not the best, but still half an avalon almost	[03:16]
mjr_	Virtex-6's	[03:16]
mjr_	way larger than spartans or altera's	[03:17]
mjr_	40nm process	[03:17]
mjr_	hoping for 10gh per	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	i dunno if i'd buy new fpga's today tho	[03:17]
mjr_	maybe overly optimistic	[03:17]
mjr_	lol, buy	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	but if used and a good price i guess may be a good deal	[03:17]
mjr_	free and sitting around	[03:17]
mjr_	no electricity	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	o that works	[03:17]
mjr_	yep	[03:17]
jurov	mjr_ there's sometimes a good deal on -otc too, i got amazon codes, small paypal payments and like	[03:17]
mjr_	3 of those, plus maybe one virtex 5 if worth it	[03:17]
mjr_	jurov: good point	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	he has a point. also, you'd think i'd never trade. yet recently i got like a dozen sa gift certs.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	it was nice and easy	[03:18]
mjr_	what is sa?	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	some forum	[03:18]
jurov	haha	[03:18]
mjr_	oh yeah i remember	[03:18]
mjr_	lol	[03:18]
mjr_	that was funny	[03:18]
mjr_	anyways, i have 3 small projects and one big one	[03:20]
jurov	the bitch ain't one	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	;;eauth mircea_popescu	[03:20]
gribble	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452	[03:20]
mjr_	the fpga miners, the boutique hedge fund, and a bitcoin horseracing sitte	[03:20]
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mjr_	the big one...is big	[03:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:651ee0e4570cc2d14ea53173c276c5bce82d794a92202d3779ffbf90	[03:21]
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mircea_popescu	;;rate kakobrekla 5 too much stuff to list. inquire within.	[03:21]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 3 to 5.	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	;;rated nefario	[03:22]
gribble	You rated user nefario on Tue Sep 25 02:55:21 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: runs a scammy btc securities exchange . associated with the bitcoin consultancy scammer group..	[03:22]
mircea_popescu	whoa i got him early.	[03:22]
mjr_	who is nefario?	[03:22]
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mircea_popescu	;;rated davout	[03:23]
gribble	You rated user davout on Sat Dec 8 05:09:24 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: bitcoin-central.net paymium etc.	[03:23]
jurov	mjr_ do you know about glbse? he was its owner	[03:23]
mircea_popescu	;;rate davout 3 bitcoin-central.net paymium etc.	[03:23]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user davout has changed from 1 to 3.	[03:23]
mjr_	oh yea	[03:23]
mjr_	i heard about that	[03:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 180 @ 0.006296 = 1.1333 BTC [-]	[03:23]
mjr_	asicminer is from there right?	[03:24]
mjr_	just starting to get everything back together from what i read	[03:24]
mjr_	mircea do you ever use btc-e?	[03:25]
mjr_	or anyone else for that matter...	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	i never used btc-e	[03:26]
jurov	mjr_ only for small litecoin trades	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	if i used anything it'd prolly be davout's ting	[03:26]
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mircea_popescu	;;rated jurov	[03:27]
gribble	You rated user jurov on Fri Sep 28 03:13:37 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: runs coinbr.com, MPEx broker website.	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	;;rate jurov 4 runs coinbr.com, MPEx broker website.	[03:27]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user jurov has changed from 3 to 4.	[03:27]
mjr_	lol nice $17 spread	[03:27]
jurov	where?	[03:28]
mjr_	on bitcoin central	[03:28]
mjr_	only ask is at $47	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	what srsly ?	[03:28]
mjr_	bids at 30	[03:28]
mjr_	yep	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ they're euro tho	[03:28]
mjr_	no	[03:28]
mjr_	i switched to dollars	[03:28]
mjr_	oh i get what you mean	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	well their dollar market has like... no epth	[03:28]
mjr_	very small dollar volume	[03:28]
mjr_	ah yeah, their euro book is a lot better	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	inexplicably they have little euro depth too	[03:29]
mjr_	well yeah, but better than dollar for sure	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	but they seem to me more trustworthy than anyone else on the strength of actually getting the bank partnerships right	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea why uptake so low.	[03:30]
mjr_	well, i hope to change that	[03:30]
mjr_	working on an aggregated order book...and then hopefully a routing and matching engine	[03:30]
mjr_	that is the big thing	[03:30]
mjr_	hoping to get a big source of volume soon	[03:31]
mjr_	open up a new market	[03:31]
mjr_	and need to provide a steady access to all markets to convince them	[03:31]
mjr_	that is basically what my company already does for equity markets in US	[03:32]
mjr_	routing and flow	[03:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.00996 = 0.1992 BTC [-]	[03:32]
mjr_	buy from this dark pool, sell on that one	[03:32]
mjr_	etc	[03:32]
mjr_	so if someone would just do that for btc it would make everyone's lives a lot easier	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	you can probably handle it on otc if you know the rifght people	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	which is what makes your wot suddenly crucial for your success.	[03:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.008299 = 0.0581 BTC [-]	[03:34]
mjr_	well, its all about automating it	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	not until you've made your contacts it isn't.	[03:34]
mjr_	well, my partner is working on the order flow	[03:35]
mjr_	and we already have some sick back end infrastructure	[03:35]
mjr_	data center colocation etc	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is primarily about who you know.	[03:35]
mjr_	and some really nice enterprise level matching engine and algorithmic trading unit	[03:36]
mjr_	and yes it	[03:36]
mjr_	is	[03:36]
mjr_	i def do need WoT	[03:36]
mjr_	can i work on it tomorrow?	[03:36]
mjr_	if you guys are around?	[03:36]
jurov	tomorrow is sunday, we're closed	[03:36]
jurov	:P	[03:37]
mircea_popescu	lol you just need the bot	[03:37]
mjr_	lol	[03:37]
mjr_	i mean, what address should i use?	[03:37]
mjr_	should i maintain a separate one for business and personal?	[03:37]
jurov	mjr_ i think most of us have one common address/privkey	[03:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.66 = 9.9 BTC [-]	[03:39]
jurov	and it isn't clear to me why/how would you want to manage separate webs of trust	[03:39]
mjr_	well	[03:40]
mjr_	i mean as long as i run my business it would be important for me to have a high wot rating	[03:40]
mjr_	but if i were to leave...i couldn't leave it to someone else	[03:40]
BitHub	it depends	[03:40]
mjr_	could i?	[03:40]
BitHub	is your business pandering hard to the community or mainstream?	[03:41]
mjr_	mainstream	[03:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.0007449 = 8.29 BTC [+]	[03:41]
BitHub	then i wouldn't worry about WOT so much	[03:41]
mjr_	well, still important	[03:41]
BitHub	to the community	[03:41]
mjr_	even from marketing perspective	[03:41]
BitHub	mainstream have no clue about it	[03:41]
mjr_	of course	[03:41]
mjr_	but you know how people list stuff on websites	[03:41]
mjr_	and i may need to do stuff using otc	[03:41]
BitHub	yeah	[03:42]
mjr_	but would rather my corporate persona was the one who had the trust	[03:42]
mjr_	i don't plan on doing a lot personally	[03:42]
BitHub	don't get caught up in a rating war tho	[03:42]
mjr_	yeah	[03:42]
BitHub	could be damaging to business rep	[03:42]
mjr_	true	[03:42]
mjr_	like i said, i haven't used otc yet	[03:42]
mjr_	and maybe i might toy with it	[03:42]
mjr_	but i want computers to deal with stuff like that	[03:42]
jurov	we'll see how it goes. dunno if there was anyone who maintained corporate persona on wot	[03:43]
mjr_	the matching engine and such	[03:43]
mjr_	yeah, i kind of like how it is very personal here	[03:43]
BitHub	yeah there's no point	[03:43]
BitHub	better off having a customer feedback thing on your site or osmething	[03:43]
BitHub	quotes from mainstream professionals	[03:43]
mjr_	well, as i said, my goal is to be a layer between a big mainstream source and a bunch of exchanges	[03:43]
BitHub	"wow this site is really good" Mark Cuban	[03:44]
mjr_	ideally the mainstream end users wouldn't even be aware of me	[03:44]
BitHub	compared to	[03:44]
BitHub	+1 yeah we had a good trade - BitHub	[03:44]
mjr_	there are some companies that have 20-30k accounts	[03:44]
mjr_	and all those guys do is trade forex	[03:44]
mjr_	but they would need a STRONG source of liquidity	[03:44]
mjr_	and the best bids and asks	[03:45]
BitHub	BitHub is currently building infrastructure, investing and networking within the Bitcoin community and the Mainstream to bridge the two together to provide a very straight forward, trustworthy, professional services.	[03:45]
mjr_	and enterprise level hardware with some big financial people behind it	[03:45]
mjr_	yeah that is the goal right	[03:45]
mjr_	i have been disheartened by how hard it is for people on wall street to get in the game	[03:46]
mjr_	for example	[03:46]
mjr_	traders at my firm have half a mill to play with at work	[03:46]
BitHub	isn't it about to get alot easier for them	[03:46]
BitHub	via coinlab	[03:46]
mjr_	yeah...believe it when i see it	[03:46]
BitHub	or tell your wall street buddies to buy into a bitcoin company	[03:46]
mjr_	not to mention...it would just be a mt gox pass through	[03:46]
mjr_	prop traders	[03:47]
mjr_	they don't own their positions	[03:47]
mjr_	and they trade with high leverage	[03:47]
mjr_	intra day	[03:47]
BitHub	that's where you come in my friend as a Bitcoin Broker and you do it for these people and charge them a broker fee	[03:47]
mjr_	they couldn't invest outside of work	[03:47]
BitHub	don't teach them	[03:47]
mjr_	yes	[03:47]
mjr_	true	[03:47]
mjr_	but they can't press buttons to make bitcoins appear on their screens	[03:47]
BitHub	outsource some helpers from china	[03:47]
mjr_	and till someone makes it so that you can use etrade (def not what we use) or like a sterling or laser type platform	[03:48]
BitHub	they don't need to, they just go to your site, type in a code or whatever and can see their balance	[03:48]
mjr_	professional traders can't get involved	[03:48]
mjr_	i mean, their accounts with their money can't connect to my website	[03:48]
mjr_	and it isn't really their website	[03:48]
mjr_	i mean their money	[03:48]
mjr_	they get to trade with 20x or more leverage	[03:48]
BitHub	cant you set up your own bank account and get these people to dump the fiat in there?	[03:49]
mjr_	but they leave all that at the office	[03:49]
BitHub	and then you make the bitcoin buys for them?	[03:49]
mjr_	i would love to	[03:49]
mjr_	but again	[03:49]
mjr_	basically they have to use their trading accounts	[03:49]
mjr_	and their trading accounts connect to nyse, nasdaq, edgea, edgex, bats etc	[03:49]
mjr_	so they can buy stuff from there	[03:49]
mjr_	and that's all	[03:49]
BitHub	i see	[03:49]
jurov	mjr_ have you seen bit4x.com or 1broker.com ?	[03:50]
mjr_	and that is how most of finance is	[03:50]
BitHub	so you need a bitcoin platform that can kind of plug into that exisiting platform?	[03:50]
mjr_	yes	[03:51]
BitHub	because they're using their coporate trading accounts	[03:51]
mjr_	i need them to be able to plug in bloomberg	[03:51]
mjr_	or whatever	[03:51]
BitHub	which is like really big money	[03:51]
mjr_	yes	[03:51]
mjr_	if they open up their own accounts it might be 500	[03:51]
mjr_	their professional accounts might be over 1 mill	[03:51]
BitHub	500g's?	[03:51]
BitHub	jesus	[03:51]
mjr_	no $500	[03:51]
BitHub	oh	[03:51]
mjr_	traders don't do it at home	[03:51]
mjr_	or maybe a little	[03:51]
mjr_	but again typically with their 401k or their investment account	[03:52]
mjr_	the goal for me is to not make them open up a new account	[03:52]
thestringpuller	what the fuck are you all on about?	[03:52]
BitHub	hmmm follow the coinlab stuff	[03:52]
mjr_	but rather give them something to buy with their existing accounts	[03:52]
mjr_	i've been watching	[03:52]
BitHub	maybe you can act as a broker for them via that site	[03:53]
BitHub	so they only have to deal with you	[03:53]
mjr_	too long; didn't read: wall street professionals don't open up new accounts for all their trades, they use their existing high margin accounts	[03:53]
mjr_	that's the goal for the platform, plug into existing infrastructure	[03:53]
mjr_	and become the gateway for that infrastructure to the bitcoin world	[03:53]
BitHub	but the exisiting infrastructure its not like you could plug gox right into it yeah?	[03:54]
mjr_	nope	[03:54]
mjr_	not as of yet	[03:54]
BitHub	there's alot of licences, government approval wallstreet approval etc etc	[03:54]
mjr_	well yeah	[03:54]
Ukto	BitHub: I wouldtn btoher with coinlab	[03:54]
mjr_	but it is mostly a matter of getting the deal	[03:54]
Ukto	there will be other options for gox	[03:54]
Ukto	before their thing hits	[03:54]
mjr_	yeah	[03:54]
Ukto	trust me on this. ;)	[03:54]
BitHub	Ukto ;)	[03:54]
mjr_	my point is that everyone doesn't use nasdaq to trade aapl	[03:55]
BitHub	we talked about it yesterday	[03:55]
mjr_	even though aapl is listed on nasdaq	[03:55]
mjr_	i can buy aapl on any one of a ton of differrent venues	[03:55]
mjr_	and they all have different fees, volume, prices	[03:55]
mjr_	so i can pick and choose	[03:55]
mjr_	so someone has to offer choices and volume	[03:56]
mjr_	its a long tough road i think	[03:56]
mjr_	which is why i am more excited abvout my small easy projects	[03:56]
mjr_	which are already coming together	[03:56]
mjr_	lol build a miner	[03:56]
mjr_	when i showed a trader what i was doing, he was like "why aren't you scalping this all day, like do it right now"	[03:57]
BitHub	so i dont understand the problem	[03:57]
BitHub	why they cant buy bitcoins using their coporate accounts	[03:57]
mjr_	well	[03:57]
mjr_	lets go through it	[03:57]
mjr_	of course they have no way of sending an electronic order	[03:57]
mjr_	so let's say they call me	[03:57]
mjr_	because they trust me	[03:57]
BitHub	or do an order via your site	[03:57]
BitHub	if you had a live chat option like i do	[03:58]
mjr_	and say hey, i wanna get 1000 btc right now, what kind of price am i looking at?	[03:58]
mjr_	let's assume i actually had the market data to tell them	[03:58]
mjr_	looking at all the exchanges and finding the best price	[03:58]
BitHub	okey	[03:58]
mjr_	ok, i wanna buy it	[03:58]
mjr_	give me the money	[03:58]
BitHub	it would probably just be based on mtgox price	[03:58]
mjr_	ok, well, i have to wire the money out of my account, and then i have to wire you the money	[03:58]
mjr_	ok see you in 5 days then	[03:59]
mjr_	see the problem?	[03:59]
BitHub	you cant float it for him?	[03:59]
mjr_	i suppose i could	[03:59]
BitHub	lul	[03:59]
mjr_	but not at that amount	[03:59]
mjr_	and not in any way that would make me money	[03:59]
mjr_	the point is to be able to use the existing accounts so i don't hve to worry about their funding	[03:59]
BitHub	start off baby steps	[04:00]
BitHub	start with 1000 dollar limit maybe	[04:00]
mjr_	since funding is always the worst part of bitcoin trading	[04:00]
mjr_	mt. gox...10+ days to verify using dwolla	[04:00]
BitHub	let me tell you a secret	[04:00]
BitHub	i buy outside of mtgox and its always cheaper than the current market price at that time	[04:00]
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mjr_	and again, they just did a trade with their own money and it didn't really relate to their job at all	[04:01]
mjr_	yeah of course	[04:01]
mjr_	but speed is the key here	[04:01]
mjr_	and also, your P&L will show your account	[04:01]
mjr_	not what you do with some person outside of the system	[04:01]
mjr_	ie. you want to have this be a trade done as part of their profession, not as a side job or something	[04:02]
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BitHub	you need direct relationships with miners	[04:02]
mjr_	true	[04:02]
mjr_	that is the synergy with the fpga project i have going on	[04:02]
BitHub	or set up a seperate branch to your company that's strickly a bitcoin mining company	[04:02]
mjr_	if i can get the equivalent of half an avalon	[04:02]
mjr_	it'll be a nice little start	[04:02]
mjr_	but suffice it to say	[04:03]
BitHub	and you can start writing off equipment and electricity against your bitcoin mining company	[04:03]
mjr_	lol, no cost equipment or electricity	[04:03]
mjr_	but yeah	[04:03]
mjr_	i see your point	[04:03]
mjr_	what i am planning on doing	[04:03]
mjr_	and what we are working on	[04:03]
mjr_	is a symbol on a platform where people already trade dollars, euros, pounds and yen	[04:03]
mjr_	so now it is dollars, euros, pounds yen and bitcoins	[04:04]
mjr_	ie. i don't have to worry abourt your funding, or settlement, i just worry about executing orders against the bitcoin exchanges	[04:04]
mjr_	and collecting fees	[04:04]
BitHub	sounds good	[04:05]
thestringpuller	I'm taking preorders for bitcoin beer.	[04:05]
mjr_	their forex company, who has said they are interested, would take care of the accounts, but they would offer one more symbol for their traders	[04:05]
BitHub	so you're actually working on software?	[04:05]
mjr_	we have a top tier software system in place	[04:05]
mjr_	lol	[04:05]
mjr_	my boss at my day job called it "a ferrari on a dirt road" lol	[04:05]
BitHub	haha nice	[04:05]
BitHub	sounds good and a bit crazy what you're doing, keep my updated :)	[04:06]
BitHub	me	[04:06]
mjr_	yeah, but it basically would have like a matching engine so say account #25671 wants to buy and account #12543 wants to sell, it can match them internally, saving us the fees from mt. gox or wherever	[04:06]
mjr_	that is internalization	[04:06]
mjr_	with 30k accounts...we can prob do quite a bit of internalization	[04:07]
mjr_	and with volume, we can lower our rates at gox, and cut better deals with others	[04:07]
BitHub	just you know whatever you do, don't let those guys ruin bitcoin hey?	[04:07]
mjr_	of course not	[04:07]
mjr_	i want them to see this as an introduction	[04:07]
mjr_	so they start using it in everyday life	[04:08]
mjr_	AND, if it works, get interviewed on CNBC	[04:08]
mjr_	lol	[04:08]
BitHub	:)	[04:08]
mjr_	and that day	[04:08]
mjr_	my little boutique tiny hedge fund will post some amazing gains	[04:08]
BitHub	how far off are you?	[04:08]
BitHub	1 year?	[04:08]
mjr_	well...not sure, we got the software and the servers and the location	[04:08]
mjr_	my partner/boss is meeting with those guys for our company (day job) but also selling them on this idea (our own side thing)	[04:09]
BitHub	based in the usa?	[04:09]
mjr_	NYC	[04:09]
*	BitHub slaps head	[04:09]
mjr_	so, if our deal goes through	[04:09]
BitHub	yeah of course heh nyc exchange	[04:09]
mjr_	for my day job	[04:09]
mjr_	it is fairly reasonable odds that this other thing goes through	[04:09]
mjr_	providing we can deliver a stable good source of liquidity to them	[04:09]
mjr_	so i am mostly working on that right now	[04:10]
mjr_	i think its probably 50/50 at best that it'd done in a year	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	what's your idea of liquidity ?	[04:10]
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mjr_	depends, i am not exactly sure what the demand would be	[04:10]
BitHub	i'm still a startup myself trying to figure this stuff out, based in Australia / Asia check us out sometime - bithub.asia bithub.com.au bithub.biz	[04:11]
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mjr_	but ideally, they could move large amounts of money relatively quickly and without too much slippage	[04:11]
mjr_	very cool BitHub	[04:12]
mjr_	i'm definitely hoping to partner with people in some way or another in the future	[04:12]
mjr_	if they can provide access to markets	[04:12]
mjr_	i would really like to work with bitfloor since they are NYC based, but i would like to have routes everywhere	[04:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]	[04:12]
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mjr_	also i could hopefully leave orders on bitfloors books to get liquidity rebates	[04:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.006296 = 1.574 BTC [-]	[04:14]
BitHub	btw does anyone have any of those ASICMINER shares?	[04:14]
jurov	here someone was offering just few hrs ago	[04:15]
jurov	Selling up to 100 ASICMINER shares, pm me with offers.	[04:15]
mjr_	darn	[04:15]
mjr_	i missed that	[04:15]
mjr_	actually talked to him too	[04:16]
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mjr_	i would love to pick up some	[04:16]
mjr_	lol whats funny is that that company is more like a private equity thing than public company	[04:16]
mjr_	people always making back room deals and stuff	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-february-2013-statement/	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	updated with nice graph	[04:17]
BitHub	mjr i'm all about partnering up and collaboration if you want help or access to australian/asian markets in the future, lets hook it up :)	[04:17]
mjr_	k guys gotta run	[04:18]
mjr_	def	[04:18]
mjr_	good talking to you all	[04:18]
mjr_	best channel on IRC bar none	[04:18]
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mircea_popescu	jurov for my curiosity, the guy on reddit that "couldn't waiot" till another nonfee exchange opened	[04:23]
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mircea_popescu	and then got all excited about coinbr	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	did he perchance actually make an account ?	[04:24]
jurov	maybe, he did not let me know	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	twitter "Why do the same people that say A baby in the womb is not life Say bacteria is considered "life" on Mars?"	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	me "Because there's plenty of wombs and scarcely any bacteria on Mars. Abundance cheapens."	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kC5MT2r5U8s/TBk0BAwNKkI/AAAAAAAAPLw/5wYilxC2V2c/s1600/nuke+explosion.jpg	[04:26]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+]	[04:33]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 24 @ 0.00643 = 0.1543 BTC [+]	[04:41]
TradeFortress	^ lol	[04:42]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]	[04:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00580008 = 5.8001 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580007 = 2.9 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580006 = 2.9 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 38 @ 0.00580004 = 0.2204 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580004 = 2.9 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00580002 = 11.6 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00580002 = 29.0001 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00577614 = 11.5523 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00569655 = 11.3931 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550002 = 5.5 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC [-]	[05:08]
Bugpowder	hmmm	[05:10]
kakobrekla	maybe that ian baked got some shares to sell	[05:11]
Bugpowder	lol	[05:11]
Bugpowder	.0055 pre div is pretty nice	[05:11]
Bugpowder	wish I had a bid up	[05:12]
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Ukto	kakobrekla: he wants a large price :)	[05:15]
kakobrekla	hm?	[05:16]
Ukto	ian	[05:16]
kakobrekla	how much does he want?	[05:16]
Ukto	was very high is what I was told	[05:16]
kakobrekla	no number?	[05:17]
kakobrekla	http://shrani.si/f/l/uy/1RdE4K2G/sdice.png	[05:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00077011 = 7.7011 BTC [+]	[05:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00077012 = 0.3851 BTC [+]	[05:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0055 = 2.2 BTC [-]	[05:19]
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thestringpuller	Ukto	[05:19]
thestringpuller	You stole my coins	[05:19]
Ukto	0,o	[05:20]
thestringpuller	;;getrating Ukto	[05:20]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Ukto, rated since Tue Jun 14 21:24:56 2011. Cumulative rating 17, from 12 total ratings. Received ratings: 12 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Ukto	[05:20]
Ukto	I deed?	[05:20]
thestringpuller	jkjk	[05:20]
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Ukto	hehe	[05:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00076144 = 1.4467 BTC [-]	[05:22]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]	[05:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00500051 = 10.001 BTC [-]	[05:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 23879 @ 0.0050005 = 119.4069 BTC [-]	[05:35]
kakobrekla	hehe	[05:35]
Bugpowder	YES	[05:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0055 = 3.3 BTC [+]	[05:36]
pizzaman1337	why yes?	[05:36]
Bugpowder	my bid got hit	[05:36]
pizzaman1337	ah	[05:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [+]	[05:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16121 @ 0.0050005 = 80.6131 BTC [-]	[05:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00500002 = 1.5 BTC [-]	[05:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00500001 = 2 BTC [-]	[05:36]
pizzaman1337	when do S.DICE divs come out?	[05:36]
Bugpowder	soon	[05:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 40000 @ 0.0050005 = 200.02 BTC [+]	[05:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00500002 = 5 BTC [-]	[05:37]
Bugpowder	oh shyt	[05:37]
pizzaman1337	that's a lot of movement	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.dice	[05:38]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00500001 / 0.00529899 / 0.0063777 (116945 shares, 619.69 BTC), 7D: 0.00500001 / 0.00595337 / 0.0063799 (353812 shares, 2,106.38 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.0060038 / 0.007395 (6898878 shares, 41,419.50 BTC)	[05:38]
Bugpowder	I'm out of powder	[05:38]
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pizzaman1337	just don't run out of bugs	[05:38]
Bugpowder	lol	[05:38]
Bugpowder	will it actually dump below .005?	[05:38]
kakobrekla	http://shrani.si/f/k/IK/1ptRixZ7/sdice.png	[05:39]
kakobrekla	its fun to watch rt :)	[05:39]
Bugpowder	Even with no whale, I think S.DICE is worth .005	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	pts are missing out lol	[05:39]
kakobrekla	at least mpex is not closed on the weekend, right pizzaman1337 ;)	[05:39]
pizzaman1337	kakobrekla: yeah, rest of the world is closed	[05:39]
Bugpowder	;;calc .000133/.005	[05:40]
gribble	0.0266	[05:40]
pizzaman1337	is that what percentage the dividend will be if the price is at 5?	[05:40]
Bugpowder	yes	[05:41]
Bugpowder	I also believe that the whale lives	[05:41]
Bugpowder	with a different address allocation strategy	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	remarkably sparse book on s.dice	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	0.00637769 64`615 / 13`131 0.00444440	[05:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]	[05:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]	[05:42]
Bugpowder	damn	[05:42]
Bugpowder	need more coins	[05:43]
pizzaman1337	don't we all	[05:43]
Bugpowder	someone really wants to dump a big load	[05:43]
Bugpowder	but not below .005	[05:43]
Bugpowder	aha	[05:43]
Bugpowder	the 637k ask wall is gone	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	ya seems like someone putting in a wall at 50 would prolly get a good chunk	[05:43]
Bugpowder	must be that guy	[05:43]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: "How you gonna choke a legend ? You don't think I want to choke people ? You can't just choke all your problems, it takes hard work. If I had my way, I'd never work. I could stay home all day watch Scarface 50 times, eat a turkey sandwich and have sex all fuckin day. Then I'd dress up like a clown and surprise kids at schools. Then I'd take a dump in the back of a movie theater and just wait til s	[05:43]
Bugpowder	yup	[05:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-]	[05:44]
Bugpowder	I'm gonna be sad if he drops to .004	[05:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4537 @ 0.00077012 = 3.494 BTC [+]	[05:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5963 @ 0.00077014 = 4.5923 BTC [+]	[05:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]	[05:44]
Bugpowder	quick someone by the fucking x.idiff.mar	[05:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]	[05:44]
Bugpowder	I'm selling for fucking .0599	[05:44]
Bugpowder	a steal	[05:44]
thestringpuller	what's your X.IDIFF priced?	[05:44]
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mircea_popescu	how;'s it gonna get to 6mn ?!	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	it has one retarget till then, and it's not going up 200%	[05:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6431 BTC [-]	[05:45]
Bugpowder	SHUT UP	[05:45]
Bugpowder	!!	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:45]
Bugpowder	It could retarget twice	[05:45]
Bugpowder	if the hash rate really ramps up	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	well sure, if we go to like 50 Ph	[05:45]
Bugpowder	only really needs to double	[05:45]
Bugpowder	right after next diff	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	next diff is in like 2 weeks-ish	[05:46]
Bugpowder	yes	[05:46]
pigeons	;;estimate	[05:46]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 4555697.65506 based on data since last change \| 4400318.08082 based on data for last three days	[05:46]
Bugpowder	Mar 14	[05:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]	[05:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]	[05:46]
Bugpowder	oh fuk	[05:46]
pigeons	;;nextdiff	[05:47]
gribble	Error: "nextdiff" is not a valid command.	[05:47]
Bugpowder	he is gonna dump	[05:47]
Bugpowder	I can feel it	[05:47]
kakobrekla	no	[05:47]
kakobrekla	dude leave 100 shares	[05:47]
kakobrekla	leaves	[05:47]
kakobrekla	each time	[05:47]
kakobrekla	lol	[05:47]
kakobrekla	at 5	[05:47]
kakobrekla	well maybe he is going to lose patience	[05:48]
kakobrekla	lets get ready or smth	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	back to .00008	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	or w/e da fguck it was	[05:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.643 BTC [-]	[05:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.642001 = 1.284 BTC [-]	[05:49]
pizzaman1337	let's have some fun, I put 1 S.DICE buy on the book... maybe he'll take it :)	[05:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00500001 BTC [-]	[05:50]
kakobrekla	im setting a few	[05:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 99 @ 0.00500001 = 0.495 BTC [-]	[05:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00500001 BTC [-]	[05:51]
pizzaman1337	:D	[05:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00500001 = 4.5 BTC [-]	[05:51]
Bugpowder	heh	[05:51]
Bugpowder	won't go below .005	[05:51]
Bugpowder	lets test his will	[05:51]
pizzaman1337	or below 0.00500001	[05:51]
kakobrekla	see again he left 100 sitting there	[05:51]
kakobrekla	hm	[05:52]
kakobrekla	lets pull a trick	[05:52]
Bugpowder	that's weird	[05:52]
Bugpowder	that is botlink	[05:52]
Bugpowder	botlike	[05:52]
kakobrekla	nah	[05:52]
pizzaman1337	kakobrekla: is that your 0.00499999?	[05:52]
Bugpowder	mine	[05:52]
Bugpowder	:)	[05:52]
thestringpuller	;;bc,stats	[05:52]
kakobrekla	let me try smth see if it works	[05:52]
gribble	Current Blocks: 223988 \| Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 \| Next Difficulty In: 1803 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 28 minutes, and 48 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 4550550.25106 \| Estimated Percent Change: 4.18222	[05:52]
thestringpuller	wow	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if like 20 years from now when s.dice is like better than microsoft	[05:53]
Bugpowder	500,000 shadow S.DICE shares being sold at .005	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	people will look back to like, 10k btc pizza moment	[05:53]
Bugpowder	http://heliacal.net/~solar/bitcoin/pizza/	[05:54]
pizzaman1337	nobody is keeping track of trades, are they? Besides on twitter	[05:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]	[05:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00500001 = 2 BTC [-]	[05:54]
Bugpowder	oooo	[05:54]
Bugpowder	tempted to deposit	[05:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]	[05:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00500001 = 4.5 BTC [-]	[05:55]
kakobrekla	fuck	[05:56]
mircea_popescu	wha ?	[05:56]
kakobrekla	i missed it	[05:56]
kakobrekla	that cocksucker leaves 100 shares there	[05:56]
kakobrekla	from the last order	[05:56]
kakobrekla	i wanted to get mine hit and cancel it	[05:56]
kakobrekla	before new one comes	[05:56]
kakobrekla	so there is nothing at 5	[05:56]
kakobrekla	was too late	[05:56]
kakobrekla	somebody placed it after me and mine leftover was hit	[05:56]
kakobrekla	now someone else has a leftover	[05:57]
pigeons	ok canceled it	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:57]
kakobrekla	rofl	[05:57]
kakobrekla	i see	[05:57]
kakobrekla	now lets see if he drops	[05:57]
pizzaman1337	I wonder if the seller is in this room, watching amused	[05:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005 = 2 BTC [-]	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	ok time to rollback all trades	[05:58]
thestringpuller	stop cheating	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:59]
Bugpowder	my .00499999 gonna get hit?	[05:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00499999 BTC [-]	[05:59]
kakobrekla	THERE	[05:59]
Bugpowder	oh my	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:59]
Bugpowder	who bought it?	[06:00]
Bugpowder	SHOW YOURSELF	[06:00]
kakobrekla	you did?	[06:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00599993 BTC [+]	[06:00]
Bugpowder	heheh	[06:00]
Bugpowder	BOUNCE	[06:00]
mircea_popescu	lol	[06:00]
pizzaman1337	that was the share I bought earlier	[06:01]
kakobrekla	scalpin the mpex spread with 1sd share	[06:01]
pizzaman1337	profit! :P	[06:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0048 BTC [-]	[06:01]
kakobrekla	a	[06:01]
Bugpowder	now its getting serious	[06:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00599994 BTC [+]	[06:01]
Bugpowder	who is trolling	[06:01]
kakobrekla	lol	[06:01]
mircea_popescu	dudes keep filling my db with bs	[06:01]
thestringpuller	fuck yo db	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	ima implement the eu tx fee	[06:02]
pizzaman1337	no, that'd be lame	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	except keep the proceeds for buying ho's skimpy outfits	[06:02]
pizzaman1337	you need to distribute those outfits among shareholders	[06:02]
pigeons	prolly wont fit me tho	[06:03]
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kakobrekla	100@0.00500001	[06:04]
kakobrekla	im thinking its himself.	[06:04]
mircea_popescu	ha	[06:04]
mircea_popescu	that's a thought, somebody trying to cause a panic to load up	[06:04]
Bugpowder	most likely	[06:04]
Bugpowder	nah	[06:04]
Bugpowder	not a panic	[06:04]
pizzaman1337	right before a div?	[06:04]
Bugpowder	but the 100 bid	[06:04]
kakobrekla	ya	[06:04]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder nah ?! that's exactly what you would say	[06:04]
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mircea_popescu	IF YOU WERE DOING IT	[06:04]
mircea_popescu	konspiraci	[06:05]
kakobrekla	:D	[06:05]
Bugpowder	I dumped my dice when I figured out no whale	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	also in the news, i ate out today.	[06:05]
Bugpowder	I bought some back when I found another network of 10,000+ coins	[06:05]
pigeons	it probably is him cause the other 500001's were me and this one isnt	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	law here is you can use receipts for deductions if < 100 lei per.	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	so i told the waitress to split up my bill accordingly.	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	she came up with three things.	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	first was a total of 69	[06:06]
pigeons	i figured i'll buy at that price and take the div	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	2nd was a total of 69	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	third was a total of... 69.	[06:06]
Bugpowder	69 is a restricted number on california license plates	[06:06]
Bugpowder	only cars from 1969 can use it	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	lol!	[06:07]
Bugpowder	I learned this today when checking custom plates	[06:07]
mircea_popescu	what you're serious ?!	[06:07]
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Bugpowder	yes	[06:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00550001 = 0.55 BTC [-]	[06:09]
Bugpowder	https://www.dmv.ca.gov/ipp2/initPers.do	[06:09]
Bugpowder	look it up	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	this is why that country is going to shit	[06:10]
mircea_popescu	too many dumbass "rules".	[06:10]
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Bugpowder	Is deprived on IRC?	[06:12]
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Bugpowder	he seems awefully well informed for not being on irc	[06:16]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder pretty much the only guy with a clue outside of irc	[06:16]
mircea_popescu	;;seen deprived	[06:17]
gribble	I have not seen deprived.	[06:17]
ThickAssLaptop	Deprived doesnt do IRC	[06:17]
mircea_popescu	he does show up ocasionally tho, we've chatted	[06:17]
ThickAssLaptop	i asked him	[06:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00996 BTC [-]	[06:21]
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ThickAssLaptop	Deprived knows his shit, runs some great ltc assets	[06:26]
runeks	DAMN. this one is taken. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/wasapp/ipp2/processPers.do?plateChar0=H&plateChar1=8&plateChar2=S&plateChar3=G&plateChar4=N&plateChar5=H&plateChar6=8	[06:27]
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Bugpowder	H8SGNH8?	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	try P4NT1E5	[06:30]
runeks	Bugpowder: yes, I was going to get H8RSGNH8, but there's a 7 character limit	[06:31]
runeks	mircea_popescu: I bet that wouldn't be allowed. I mean if they ban 69...	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	wait. panties aren't allowed ?	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	gotta go commando now ?	[06:32]
runeks	mircea_popescu: dunno. I'm just guessing.	[06:32]
swhitt	there was some dude that had CUN7 or something in west virginia	[06:32]
swhitt	crazy west virginians.	[06:32]
runeks	it's always west virginians	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	there should be a law all virginians must be named Ian	[06:33]
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swhitt	Ian doesn't sound very west virginian	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	Virgin Ian ?	[06:33]
swhitt	haha	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	anyway, what's the big deal, some dork has CUNT on his license plate. so who cares.	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	"yes officer, i saw it, was a pink and green 1971 pontiac with CUNT license plates"	[06:34]
swhitt	http://instantrimshot.com/	[06:34]
swhitt	it's america so everyone without anything else to do decides they have to care	[06:35]
swhitt	and start a crusade against it	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	sad state of affairs.	[06:36]
swhitt	indeed	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	i blame men.	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	women that don't get fucked often enough and raw enough get bored	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	and a bored woman is the bane of all government.	[06:36]
swhitt	you'd do wonderfully in american politics :)	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	i bet.	[06:37]
swhitt	probably'd get ~50% of the vote	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	as long as i'm counting them i ain't getting under 90	[06:37]
swhitt	blame it on the hanging chad	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	lol	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/23/where-are-they-now-the-hanging-chad-guy/	[06:39]
swhitt	anyone have any bets on whom one should bet ~$20k on for asic hardware (actual hardware, not shares)?	[06:39]
swhitt	foregoing the fact that it is still a gamble at this point	[06:39]
runeks	good question	[06:40]
swhitt	I have a cilent or two who are interested	[06:40]
ThickAssLaptop	there's no good answer	[06:40]
swhitt	yeah...	[06:40]
swhitt	that's what I said	[06:40]
ThickAssLaptop	bfl is the most real company i guess	[06:41]
ThickAssLaptop	asicminer shares might be a stable choice...	[06:41]
ThickAssLaptop	but all risky	[06:41]
runeks	If I had $20k to invest in Bitcoin it wouldn't go to any ASIC company	[06:41]
swhitt	runeks: yeah, I said "buy bitcoin, throw some at SDICE but keep most of it in BTC"	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	swhitt http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	take your pick	[06:41]
runeks	swhitt: I think that's good advice.	[06:41]
swhitt	but they are interested in hashing etc.	[06:41]
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ThickAssLaptop	start a litecoin farm	[06:42]
ThickAssLaptop	thats my advice	[06:42]
runeks	swhitt: what do you mean? are they interested in making money or supporting the network?	[06:42]
swhitt	what's ltcbtc fx rate now	[06:43]
swhitt	the guy's loaded and wants to geek out	[06:43]
swhitt	plus the prospect of making money makes it more fun I guess	[06:43]
swhitt	1 ltc is only 0.0024 via btc-e now...	[06:44]
swhitt	0.0024 btc	[06:44]
ThickAssLaptop	look at the usd rate too	[06:45]
runeks	I have a hard time believing BFL will deliver within the next two months. but on the other hand Avalon won't either, probably (for new customers). so it doesn't look too good.	[06:45]
ThickAssLaptop	and run a litecoin mining calc befre you judge	[06:46]
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mod6	that was an awesome hockey game	[06:55]
mod6	was i on tv?	[06:57]
mod6	musta been	[07:01]
mod6	missed the s.dice sale 'eh	[07:01]
ThickAssLaptop	any word from evoorhees lately?	[07:02]
swhitt	when is the march dividend out?	[07:03]
swhitt	i thought it was supposed to be today.	[07:03]
pigeons	complete and accurate Statements of Profit and Loss for each calendar month will be published by them no later than by the fifth day of the new month.	[07:06]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.642 BTC [-]	[07:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.64 = 5.12 BTC [-]	[07:14]
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Bowjob	hey guys	[07:38]
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Bowjob	i cant seem to access my coins	[07:39]
Bowjob	via electrum	[07:39]
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mircea_popescu	Bowjob why not ?	[07:41]
Bowjob	When I double click on the .exe, it doesn't start	[07:41]
Bowjob	I'm redownloading electrum to see whats up	[07:42]
mod6	did you try rebooting	[07:42]
Bowjob	yeah	[07:42]
mod6	<.<	[07:42]
Bowjob	I have the seed so I'm good	[07:42]
mircea_popescu	"Electrum is an easy to use Bitcoin client. It protects you from losing coins"	[07:43]
mircea_popescu	i find this funny in the circumstances.	[07:43]
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mod6	does the process show up in the running executables list?	[07:43]
Bowjob	No	[07:43]
Bowjob	funny, I re downloaded it, doesnt open up	[07:43]
Bowjob	mhm	[07:43]
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mod6	what if you try to execute it from the command line, what happens?	[07:44]
Bowjob	reboot once again	[07:45]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.dice	[07:50]
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*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[16:43]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/	[16:43]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Mar 1 04:46:01 2013	[16:43]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.0919 BTC [+]	[16:56]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3713 @ 0.00076397 = 2.8366 BTC [-]	[17:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 787 @ 0.00076396 = 0.6012 BTC [-]	[17:01]
Chaang-Noi	i hear beer	[17:07]
Chaang-Noi	heart	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/orice-cuplu-functional/	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	the text reads	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	"any functional couple...	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	... includes a little secret"	[17:10]
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mircea_popescu	“I really have no idea how money works or budgets work.”	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	that seriously explains everything	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	at least the man's occasionally honest.	[17:35]
Zedster	do you always pat yourself on the back?	[17:37]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.00073 = 0.365 BTC [+]	[17:41]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.349 = 1.745 BTC [+]	[17:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.0919 = 0.2757 BTC [+]	[17:45]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]	[17:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00999 = 0.02 BTC [+]	[17:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00999 = 0.02 BTC [+]	[17:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.00999 = 0.1598 BTC [+]	[17:53]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: you have a minute?	[17:53]
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mircea_popescu	last saturday john wells had no idea bitcoin even exists. this saturday he's asking his guests cogent questions about it.	[18:05]
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mjr_	lol what up everyone	[18:12]
mjr_	this is too funny, every month you have people running away from s.dice's money	[18:13]
mjr_	quick guys they are about to pay us, sell sell sell	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:14]
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Bugpwoder	In a mature, efficient market, the stock price generally drops by the amount of the dividend upon dividend payout. Last two months, this anticipated drop did not occur with S.DICE.	[18:16]
lottoBTC	TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/	[18:17]
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thestringpuller	Bugpwoder: in fact it went up no?	[18:21]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [+]	[18:32]
mjr_	yep	[18:33]
mjr_	in fact it drops right BEFORE dividends	[18:33]
mjr_	then rises after	[18:33]
thestringpuller	it's because people are trying to short	[18:34]
thestringpuller	not really	[18:34]
-mrmist-	[Global Notice] - If you have an old nickserv account with us, please take a few moments to check that you have a valid email listed in /msg nickserv info. To set one, see /msg nickserv help set email. Having a valid email is the only way to recover your password if you forget it. Thanks for flying freenode.	[18:34]
-mrmist-	[Global Notice] - As a followup to my last message, if you experience errors trying to update your email address right now, please try again later. Apparently 100s of email changes at once doesn't work so well....	[18:38]
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Bugpwoder	thestringpuller: yes	[18:58]
Zedster	anyone aware of BTC-e having problems taking deposits?	[19:01]
lottoBTC	TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/	[19:01]
Bugpwoder	^ spam detected....	[19:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 17 @ 1.56 = 26.52 BTC [-]	[19:35]
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thestringpuller	spam detected	[19:40]
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kakobrekla	mornin	[19:49]
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Bugpwoder	lottoBTC needs to be banned	[19:51]
kakobrekla	lottoBTC read chan rules and obey them, if you wish to stay.	[19:53]
kakobrekla	you can also pay me 1337 btc and ill leave you alone	[19:56]
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Zedster	go with option B	[19:58]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00591 = 0.591 BTC [-]	[20:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.0059 = 0.5015 BTC [-]	[20:00]
mjr_	good morning	[20:04]
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topace_	anyone know when the sdice dividend is going ot be paid?	[20:13]
kakobrekla	any day now	[20:14]
Eduard_Munteanu	Weird, I remember there was a list of exchanges in the topic, where is it?	[20:15]
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mjr_	should be by tuesday the 5th i think	[20:21]
Eduard_Munteanu	kakobrekla: does bit4x provide a web interface for trading? I'm on Linux.	[20:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.29 = 1.45 BTC [-]	[20:23]
kakobrekla	Eduard_Munteanu, no, you need to use MT4, you can use it in virtual machine	[20:23]
Eduard_Munteanu	I see.	[20:24]
Eduard_Munteanu	I guess Wine might do too.	[20:24]
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kakobrekla	hmm	[20:25]
kakobrekla	google says its possible but i havent tested how well it works under wine	[20:25]
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mjr_	does MT4 have an API?	[20:32]
kakobrekla	well yea, it has an internal api	[20:33]
kakobrekla	you can code your stuff there with MQL	[20:33]
mjr_	ok cool	[20:33]
mjr_	i'm working on plugging different exchanges into a smart order router/virtual crossing engine	[20:33]
mjr_	i'm installing it now, to play around with it, looks like a cool piece of software	[20:35]
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mjr_	looks like a really cool app, who do you set up an account with exactly?	[20:36]
kakobrekla	what do you mean?	[20:37]
kakobrekla	i open live accounts in btc denomination	[20:38]
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jurov	hi kakobrekla: http://live.coinbr.com/images/logofinal.png	[20:41]
jurov	aka siren-maintained corporate identity xD	[20:42]
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kakobrekla	its up http://bitcoin-assets.com/	[20:45]
jurov	lol, looks even better with these rounded corners	[20:50]
kakobrekla	:)	[20:51]
kakobrekla	shhhhs mp will hear you.	[20:51]
Eduard_Munteanu	Hm, what other broker is there for MPEx, other than nam's?	[20:52]
kakobrekla	hit f5 on bitcoin-assets	[20:52]
kakobrekla	.com	[20:52]
kakobrekla	lol	[20:52]
dub	Eduard_Munteanu: https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16	[20:52]
jurov	yup	[20:53]
Eduard_Munteanu	dub: thanks, I'll add you as a referral if I register	[20:54]
dub	gah what happened to rule 1 of -assets	[20:56]
kakobrekla	eggs bacon and spam.	[20:56]
Eduard_Munteanu	Hm, only 3 assets listed on coinbr?	[21:01]
Bugpowder	only 3 assets listed on mpex	[21:01]
Bugpowder	dude	[21:01]
Eduard_Munteanu	I see, I recall a few more on nam's.	[21:02]
jurov	there are also options and futures	[21:02]
Eduard_Munteanu	Oh, nice.	[21:02]
jurov	but were not so often trade to make this type of graph usable	[21:03]
Eduard_Munteanu	Hm, I suppose I can't see a list of assets until I deposit some BTCs?	[21:03]
jurov	yes, new order screen is accessible only after initial deposit	[21:03]
jurov	but it's the same list as mpex.co	[21:03]
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error4733	F* the bast* playing less than 2000 on SDICE... 2x 15 BTC to 955 BTC	[21:10]
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Zedster	mirc won't let me list my touring polka band	[21:12]
Eduard_Munteanu	Why are those options so cheap? E.g. strike price 19USD/BTC, valued at 0.566 BTC.	[21:15]
Eduard_Munteanu	Err...	[21:16]
Eduard_Munteanu	Nevermind, I read USD instead of BTC.	[21:16]
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lottoBTC	TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/	[21:30]
Bugpowder	SPAM DETECTED	[21:30]
kakobrekla	yeah yeah	[21:31]
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*	assbot has kicked lottoBTC from #bitcoin-assets (Bye.)	[21:32]
Zedster	got him!	[21:33]
Zedster	wtg bug	[21:33]
Lyspooner	what if i said the same thing	[21:40]
Lyspooner	TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/	[21:41]
Zedster	every 5 mins and nothing else?	[21:41]
Lyspooner	oh that was the first one i saw	[21:41]
Zedster	it's a bot	[21:42]
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Bugpowder	never try to reason with a robot	[21:42]
gribble	1 BTC = 34.24860 U.S. dollars = 26.3086496 Euros	[21:43]
dub	Is it racist of me to ignore SebastianJu purely because I can't parse his linglinglish	[21:51]
kakobrekla	well not if you ignore his rase too	[21:52]
chmod755	lol	[21:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.006 = 0.9 BTC [-]	[22:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.0059 = 0.885 BTC [-]	[22:02]
jurov	Zedster, try btct for the polka band	[22:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00077843 = 5.449 BTC [+]	[22:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [+]	[22:07]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000745 BTC [+]	[22:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.00076 = 0.0228 BTC [+]	[22:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.00077 = 0.0154 BTC [+]	[22:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.00078 = 0.0156 BTC [+]	[22:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 40 @ 0.00079 = 0.0316 BTC [+]	[22:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 278 @ 0.00079 = 0.2196 BTC [+]	[22:13]
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dub	heh just got expense report for a week long road trip with 5 friends last month	[22:18]
dub	more of a historic pub crawl, wine tour and whiskey binge	[22:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00505 BTC [-]	[22:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 70 @ 0.00504 = 0.3528 BTC [-]	[22:20]
dub	we spent $10003	[22:20]
kakobrekla	not bad	[22:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0059 BTC [-]	[22:22]
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Bugpowder	finally about to break out of this channel	[22:40]
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kakobrekla	the what?	[22:42]
kakobrekla	you cant do that.	[22:43]
Zedster	bugs gotta do whats bugs gotta do	[22:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6745 = 2.698 BTC [+]	[22:46]
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Lyspooner	taser sword https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0F-VVjqarZE#!	[22:53]
dub	amurica fuck yeah	[22:59]
dub	comment win: Occams Taser 3 minutes ago Now try building yourself a girlfriend...	[23:00]
Diablo-D3	I still want taser brass knuckles	[23:00]
gribble	1 BTC = 34.34800 U.S. dollars = 26.3850054 Euros	[23:01]
dub	Diablo-D3: beserker punch doom style	[23:01]
dub	berserker*	[23:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550004 = 5.5 BTC [-]	[23:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00550003 = 3.85 BTC [-]	[23:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0055 = 3.85 BTC [-]	[23:02]
jurov	pre-divs sale goes on	[23:03]
Diablo-D3	dub: the only thing I remember from doom is the fucking lobster claw	[23:03]
thestringpuller	I wish I could short.	[23:08]
thestringpuller	The market is so reactive	[23:08]
thestringpuller	rather than proactive	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00999 = 0.0599 BTC [+]	[23:17]
dub	I wish I was a little bit shorter, wish I wasnt a baller, wish I had a girl who looked bad, I wouldnt call her?	[23:18]
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dub	wish I had usagi in a hat with a bat and a '84 skoda	[23:19]
dub	mtgox x85 0.0675	[23:22]
dub	wat	[23:22]
dub	mtgox x110 0.0338	[23:25]
dub	the fuck is going on	[23:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00076889 = 0.8842 BTC [-]	[23:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21495 @ 0.00077069 = 16.566 BTC [+]	[23:25]
dub	we gettin goxxed	[23:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0055001 = 2.7501 BTC [+]	[23:27]
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ThickAsThieves	;;estimate	[23:42]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 4663223.55823 based on data since last change \| 4470188.64953 based on data for last three days	[23:42]
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jurov	iDiff-E selling for 6.1 now for beliebers ;)	[23:48]
jurov	*no, it's iDiff-O March	[23:49]
gribble	1 BTC = 34.36999 U.S. dollars = 26.4018974 Euros	[23:49]
Ukto	First backed asicminer shares trading live	[23:51]
Ukto	https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.ASICMINER-PT	[23:51]
dub	backed	[23:55]
Ukto	backed	[23:56]
dub	strangely that word (as much as it is worth) doesn't appear in the profile	[23:58]

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