Forum logs for 04 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
dub Shares total: 1 bajillion/Shares Issued: tiny fraction/Issuer may arbitrarily manipulte share value: yes [00:00]
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Ukto it states that all shares are verified with friedcat [00:01]
Ukto but your right [00:02]
Ukto I will get that changed [00:02]
Ukto terra went to be already tho -_- [00:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00208 BTC [-] [00:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.002 = 0.03 BTC [-] [00:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 84 @ 0.0019 = 0.1596 BTC [-] [00:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0059 = 0.59 BTC [-] [00:08]
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jurov Any public votes presented by ASICMINER to all shareholders of ASICMINER may be voted on BitFunder towards a single decision by the G.ASICMINGER-PT shareholder account. [00:09]
jurov Ukto either there will be voting support or someone is due for a headache? [00:10]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.00581 = 2.905 BTC [-] [00:11]
Ukto well [00:14]
Ukto supposedly there will be no public votes [00:14]
Ukto but just in case [00:14]
Ukto that was put in [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3147 @ 0.00599998 = 18.8819 BTC [+] [00:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1853 @ 0.00599999 = 11.118 BTC [+] [00:17]
jurov better to just say shares have no voting rights [00:17]
jurov cuz trolls will be trolling inevitably [00:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.624 = 6.24 BTC [-] [00:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.6235 = 14.964 BTC [-] [00:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.6221 = 6.221 BTC [-] [00:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.621 = 3.726 BTC [-] [00:18]
jurov OT: if anyone uses postgres, i recommend: http://postgres-bits.herokuapp.com . several things blew me away, like, it can store dictionaries [00:18]
jurov natively [00:19]
jurov and query them [00:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0059 = 5.9 BTC [-] [00:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.41 = 2.82 BTC [-] [00:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.4 = 4.2 BTC [-] [00:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000789 = 0.0237 BTC [-] [00:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.621 = 3.726 BTC [-] [00:37]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.0058 = 0.1102 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00572 = 0.572 BTC [-] [00:51]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 31 @ 0.00571 = 0.177 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.00799 = 0.799 BTC [-] [00:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.002129 = 0.2129 BTC [+] [01:06]
topace_ anyone want to test pushing units from mpex to havelock? [01:09]
kakobrekla is it free? [01:09]
kakobrekla i dont even have havelock acc thb [01:10]
kakobrekla tbh [01:10]
topace_ yup its free [01:10]
kakobrekla this is for arb or what? [01:10]
topace_ yea, to allow others to get in on the mpex->havelock arbitrage [01:10]
kakobrekla cute [01:11]
topace_ 1) push shares to my fingerprint [01:11]
Eduard_Munteanu Cool. [01:11]
topace_ 2) paste receipt into havelock website [01:11]
topace_ 3) i manually approve transfer (for now) [01:11]
topace_ once im sure its working well, ill remove the manual transfer [01:12]
topace_ or, only require it on very large transfers [01:12]
kakobrekla hmmm [01:12]
kakobrekla i mean the question here is y u open this at all [01:12]
kakobrekla you could just automate it [01:13]
kakobrekla i mean [01:13]
kakobrekla the arb [01:13]
kakobrekla no? [01:13]
topace_ yea, i could [01:13]
kakobrekla well there some money on the table [01:14]
kakobrekla theres* [01:14]
topace_ i think there needs to be a way for people to freely move shares between mpex and the passthru's and maybe even between the passthrus themselves [01:15]
kakobrekla ok imma gonna try this [01:16]
kakobrekla lets register [01:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 455 @ 0.00072 = 0.3276 BTC [-] [01:18]
topace_ cool thanks [01:18]
kakobrekla Receipt is valid [01:20]
kakobrekla Your request to push 1000 unit(s) of S.DICE to Havelock Investments has been received. Push requests are currently processed manually (so expect 1-48 hours processign time), but will be automated in the future. [01:20]
thestringpuller passthru [01:20]
mircea_popescu hai. [01:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 500 @ 0.00213 = 1.065 BTC [+] [01:22]
kakobrekla topace_ where are ze shares? :p [01:22]
topace_ kakobrekla: approved. should show in your account now [01:22]
topace_ refresh portfolio page [01:22]
kakobrekla aha ok i see something [01:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 935 @ 0.0022 = 2.057 BTC [+] [01:23]
mircea_popescu hi kakobrekla: http://live.coinbr.com/images/logofinal.png ?<< haha cool [01:24]
topace_ hmm wonder what its showing for your book value? obviously it wont be able to calculate that... [01:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00249 = 0.005 BTC [+] [01:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00249 = 0.0249 BTC [+] [01:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 497 @ 0.0025 = 1.2425 BTC [+] [01:25]
mircea_popescu seems i didn't miss much huh [01:25]
topace_ kakobrekla: umm somethings wrong tho. [01:26]
topace_ my multiple is off [01:26]
topace_ lol [01:26]
kakobrekla hey yeah [01:26]
topace_ it should have given you 10 shares, not 100 [01:26]
kakobrekla i was just wondering [01:26]
topace_ haha [01:26]
kakobrekla says 100 on the contract [01:26]
kakobrekla still no bbet tho ? :p [01:27]
topace_ think i might add bbet this week [01:28]
topace_ and mpoe as well [01:28]
kakobrekla the recent tx still shows 100 [01:29]
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topace_ just fixed that too [01:29]
kakobrekla kk [01:29]
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topace_ well at least there was nothing wrong with the code, i just had the multiple set wrong. [01:30]
kakobrekla no way to push back now? [01:30]
kakobrekla i mean automagic or smth [01:30]
topace_ not yet... but thats the easier of the two to code [01:30]
topace_ give me your fingerprint and ill push em back [01:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00077069 = 7.2445 BTC [+] [01:31]
mircea_popescu push it push it [01:31]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU [01:31]
kakobrekla its ok, ima gonna leave em there [01:32]
topace_ oh okay :) [01:32]
topace_ ill add the push back form probably tomrrow or tuesday [01:32]
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topace_ it'll be a push request, and manually approved on my side, same as the push in request.. at least until im sure its working 100% [01:33]
kakobrekla cool [01:33]
topace_ gotta go vacuum now, or gf will kill me when she gets home [01:33]
topace_ ttyl [01:33]
kakobrekla enjoy [01:33]
mircea_popescu that;s so backwards... [01:35]
kakobrekla first pusing off mpex now cleaning before the lady gets home [01:36]
kakobrekla endoftheworld.swf [01:36]
mircea_popescu lol [01:36]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [01:37]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.40001, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 34.40001, 24 hour volume: 12439.22704040, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.50000, 24 hour vwap: 34.12774 [01:37]
jurov next door at -otc, litecoin fpga firmware is cooking [01:38]
jurov "dont fpgas go out of style as fast as CPUs do?" [01:38]
mircea_popescu i thought litecoin was like all cpu [01:39]
mircea_popescu [01:39]
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jurov just because it needs much memory. if someone figures out how to hook memory to fpga and make it fast...sky is the limit [01:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6216 = 3.108 BTC [+] [01:43]
jurov and on -dev they took on to optimize satoshidice, again :) [01:43]
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mircea_popescu heh. [01:48]
jurov i wonder why i haven't seen the idea of applying hashcash to *every* transaction [01:53]
jurov like, tx won't be accepted if you didn't some little hashing yourself [01:53]
mircea_popescu jurov ask them when are they gonna actually get crackin on the actual problems http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/ [01:53]
mircea_popescu buncha fuckwits [01:54]
jurov asked about that yest [01:54]
mircea_popescu aha ? and ? [01:54]
jurov can't remember any concrete outcome [01:54]
jurov some discussion about optimized choosing of unspent outputs at most [01:55]
jurov i guess you'll end up having to defragment the bitbet wallet occassionally [01:57]
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jurov to prevent situations [01:57]
mircea_popescu so why the fuck are they fixing other people's problems [01:58]
mircea_popescu jesus christ these dudes. [01:58]
mircea_popescu "o, what needs to be done is too hard, o, we're too stupid, let's do something else instead" [01:58]
mircea_popescu psccccchhhh [01:58]
jurov lol, i have to make closed source wallet defrag tool.. and sell it for 1BTC. or at least accept donations [01:59]
mircea_popescu and have the same dorks whine about how you're ruining bitcoin [02:00]
mircea_popescu which they broke [02:00]
mircea_popescu i strongly suspect the reason satoshi made himself scarce was that he was getting sick of dealing with the current team of devs. [02:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.6216 = 4.3512 BTC [+] [02:03]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131012.0 [02:04]
mircea_popescu aww they got chunge guy [02:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6197 BTC [-] [02:05]
Bowjob mhm [02:07]
Bowjob LTC went up to 10 cents [02:07]
mircea_popescu lmao wait. waitwait. [02:08]
mircea_popescu Cloudflare was down ?! [02:08]
mircea_popescu ahahahaha [02:08]
Eduard_Munteanu BTW, how do you manage shares traded on your exchange? I hear asicminer people had to do some manual bookkeeping. Do you keep an exchange-local tab? [02:15]
Eduard_Munteanu But then I suppose you can't trade shares outside the exchange. [02:15]
jurov Eduard_Munteanu, you asking mircea? [02:16]
Eduard_Munteanu Anyone. :) [02:16]
jurov he already admitted he has girls for that [02:16]
Eduard_Munteanu Heh. [02:16]
jurov and yes, the shares don't go outside exchange. this is why we have all these passthroughs [02:17]
mircea_popescu an exchange is an exchange, it has a trade engine [02:17]
Eduard_Munteanu Ideally shares could work like BTC, I wonder if that's possible. [02:17]
mircea_popescu what friedcat is doing is inhuman [02:17]
mircea_popescu but i guess people gotta try it out. [02:17]
mircea_popescu Eduard_Munteanu that's not ideal. it's actually a bad idea. the horse has been discussed to death [02:18]
Eduard_Munteanu Hm. [02:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.61 = 3.05 BTC [-] [02:19]
Eduard_Munteanu But isn't there a crypto way to accomplish the same thing, perhaps different than BTC? You still need exchanges. [02:19]
Eduard_Munteanu If this has been discussed on the forums, I'd be glad to read those threads. [02:20]
Eduard_Munteanu Unlike BTCs, shares are by definition centralized I suppose. [02:21]
Eduard_Munteanu At least wrt how they're issued. [02:21]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/ [02:25]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135778037437.png lmao deliciouscake [02:27]
Eduard_Munteanu Hm, makes sense, reading... thanks. [02:30]
mircea_popescu Bitcoin Pride Stats [02:30]
mircea_popescu Feb 2013: Income: $2,200 USD Profit: $1,186.00 USD [02:30]
mircea_popescu (Selling was halted during the month of Feb. to change payment methods.) [02:30]
mircea_popescu Jan 2013: Income: $3,270 USD Profit: $2,218.35 USD [02:30]
mircea_popescu Dec 2012: Income: $4,521.75 USD Profit: $3,784.00 USD [02:30]
mircea_popescu Bitcoin pride averages a 70% profit. Don't you want a piece of the pie too? [02:30]
mircea_popescu wait, their income went from 4.5 to 3.2 then 2.2 ?! [02:31]
mircea_popescu who was saying they've eaten up their market earlier ? they had a point it seems [02:31]
BitHub so they're losing money each month? [02:32]
mircea_popescu well, losing incom [02:34]
mircea_popescu still showing a (growing) profit [02:34]
mircea_popescu i've never seen that sort of dynamic before. [02:34]
kakobrekla hm [02:36]
Eduard_Munteanu mircea_popescu: I see the problem. Still, wouldn't an exchange / market-maker be able to eliminate all those delays for things traded within the exchange? Not sure how one'd deal with double spending if you don't wait for confirmations. [02:36]
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kakobrekla the formula it seems is Income( rand() ) - 1 grand = profit [02:36]
mircea_popescu Eduard_Munteanu by keeping a central book, obviously. [02:37]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla unless the sqrt log guy has a better solution, i think you're spot on. [02:37]
kakobrekla ;)) [02:37]
Eduard_Munteanu mircea_popescu: yes. And committing changes to the blockchain periodically. The exchange is still pretty important, but at least you can move stuff between exchanges in a standard way. [02:38]
mircea_popescu you ALREADY can do that. [02:38]
mircea_popescu mpex issues push receipts. [02:39]
Eduard_Munteanu Hm. [02:39]
Eduard_Munteanu Actually yeah, that kinda solves the entire issue. [02:40]
Eduard_Munteanu Not sure about OTC trading, but presumably you could do it manually somehow. [02:40]
Eduard_Munteanu Using your receipts. [02:41]
mircea_popescu if you can do it automatically like topace is trying you necessarily can do it manually too [02:41]
Eduard_Munteanu Indeed. [02:41]
mircea_popescu the way asicminer is playing this game makes me scratch my head. [02:45]
mircea_popescu so they're pointedly not coming to be listed on mpex, jump through the hoops and get my ok. [02:45]
mircea_popescu instead they're waiting for btct/bf/others run passthroughs [02:45]
mircea_popescu obviously there's no contract involved there. [02:46]
mircea_popescu now what happens if six months down the road friedcat pulls a gigavps ? [02:46]
mircea_popescu Ukto, burnside and whoever else involved gets scammer tags ? or what ? [02:46]
Eduard_Munteanu You're saying they're intentionally delaying listing on MPEx? [02:47]
mircea_popescu i'm saying they're either through sheer incompetence, sheer lack of resources or by actually being frauds behave just like a fraud would. [02:48]
mircea_popescu maybe i'm not understanding something. [02:48]
Eduard_Munteanu IDK, getting listed should've been negotiated even before the IPO, in my opinion. People have to have some way to buy / sell those stocks easily. [02:49]
mircea_popescu sure. [02:50]
mircea_popescu moreover, they've liquidity-trapped their "investors" [02:50]
Eduard_Munteanu Yeah. [02:50]
mircea_popescu which is something you really don't want to do [02:50]
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dub whats liquidity? [03:07]
dub sound slike something to do with selling shares [03:08]
dub which is, as we know, not how you invest! [03:08]
mircea_popescu o ok [03:09]
mircea_popescu welcome back among the living [03:09]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130947.msg1576297#msg1576297 [03:16]
mircea_popescu wow, eskimobob actually published a readable balance. [03:16]
dub wat [03:18]
dub oh right, where he lists bitcoins: he is counting litecoins [03:19]
mircea_popescu converted at an unspecified rate etc. [03:23]
mircea_popescu still, i had no idea ltc tanked that bad in btc [03:24]
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pigeons yeah as btc was going up, ltc was going down to track the dollar and stay at .07 usd rather than stay at a ratio to btc [03:25]
mircea_popescu otoh lct seems all set for bubble territory. [03:26]
dub bfl realy do deserve some kind of award [03:26]
mircea_popescu since btc folks love a good bubble... [03:26]
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dub they should be held up as a shining example of how to fail at pr [03:27]
mircea_popescu nah, coinlab is the shining example of how to fail at pr. [03:27]
pigeons we brought bitcoin to wall street in silicon valley [03:27]
mircea_popescu "drunk whore stumbles into wallstreet bar, announces she's brining the clap to wall street" [03:27]
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dub im not sure if hiring inaba or letting your userbase add content at a yourdomain.com/blog/ url IS DUMBER [03:28]
dub it took quite a few moments to decipher that I was not actually reading an official bfl blog [03:28]
mircea_popescu hm [03:29]
mircea_popescu truth be told those are pretty good too [03:29]
mircea_popescu ah, so much fail, so hard to pick a winner [03:29]
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mircea_popescu sooo, three chicks drank four liters of vodka in two days. [03:30]
mircea_popescu what the fuck is this, dnipopetrovsk ?! [03:30]
dub I should delve into this road trip expenses sheet [03:32]
mircea_popescu hey, was it like 10k ? [03:32]
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dub yes, 6 people, 6 days, 10k [03:33]
mircea_popescu list it [03:33]
mircea_popescu LTC-BARF [03:33]
Bowjob apparently we have a new ASIC company that is ready to ship [03:33]
mircea_popescu about the same size as eskimo's thing [03:33]
Bowjob this one's from hungary [03:33]
mircea_popescu Bowjob which one is that ? [03:33]
BitHub where can i place a bet that coinlab will be out of business by end of year? [03:33]
Bowjob PrimeAsic [03:33]
Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148832.0 [03:34]
mircea_popescu BitHub on bitbet, if you can well define out of business [03:34]
mircea_popescu iirc jurov tried [03:34]
BitHub well maybe not out of business [03:34]
BitHub what i want to bet on this being a huge fail [03:34]
dub theres only $633 worth of whiskey listed here, I don't think thats accurate [03:35]
mircea_popescu hm, actually hungary, might be worth a visit. [03:35]
dub I recall at least 4 bottles that where brought from home [03:35]
BitHub oh that's cool [03:36]
BitHub wish i live near hungary [03:36]
Bowjob if its legit, I'll fly over there to pick a couple of them [03:36]
BitHub i would sell my car today and go get one tomorrow [03:36]
Bowjob I don't know the price yet [03:36]
mircea_popescu i could be in budapest literally by sunup [03:37]
mircea_popescu but meh... worth it ? [03:37]
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mircea_popescu ~300 km awai [03:37]
BitHub really? [03:38]
mircea_popescu yes really. [03:39]
mircea_popescu that's why i live here, it's close to shit. [03:39]
BitHub i live in a fuck hole [03:40]
BitHub where everything is expensive [03:40]
mircea_popescu sucks. move to yurp [03:40]
BitHub i'm trying [03:40]
dub mircea_popescu: I thought it was teh lion/bear licesning regime [03:40]
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mircea_popescu dub huh ?! [03:41]
BitHub :D [03:41]
dub http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/27/lions-bears-removed-from-romanian-gangsters-property/ [03:41]
BitHub couch [03:41]
mircea_popescu lmao [03:41]
dub I heard that on the radio a few days ago, first thought 'wonder if mp shows up on irc today' [03:41]
BitHub better not touch my pet tiger [03:41]
mircea_popescu lol [03:42]
mircea_popescu the idea that you need a permit for stuff is certainly new here [03:42]
mircea_popescu what the fuck, permits. [03:42]
BitHub bit of a long shot but would anyone be able to help me out and send one of those to Australia? [03:43]
mircea_popescu this stuff is a mess to export [03:44]
BitHub yeah thats true [03:44]
BitHub customs will probably take it and start mining themselves [03:44]
BitHub pricks [03:44]
mircea_popescu yeah [03:45]
* BitHub bangs head on desk [03:45]
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midnightmagic mircea_popescu: You are beginning to see some of the strange contradictory nature of the asicminer people, I think, that I've been complaining about for months. [03:47]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic perhaps. what specifically ? [03:47]
mircea_popescu o, asicminer not asic miners. yeah. [03:48]
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dub why is it a mess to export? [03:49]
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dub its a computer, we have been shipping these around the place for a wee while now [03:49]
mircea_popescu dub ya well, maybe it's a bomb [03:49]
dub customs can test for bombliness [03:50]
mircea_popescu maybe it's a nuclear bomb producing item [03:50]
mircea_popescu maybe it'll fuck their mothers. [03:50]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: You mentioned earlier that they are behaving fraudulently-like.. This is permeating more than just the way they are handling their stocks, but elsewhere as well, and it's troubling because unethical people in their position, could conceivably have done a much larger order to start with than what they are reporting, and the attraction of doing double-spends is quite large if, indeed, the evidence is correct when [03:51]
midnightmagic it points to short-term thinking. [03:51]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic well, i don't know the whole thing, but from this angle it looks more like they're clueless/haven't been thinking things through/haven't slept in weeks [03:52]
mircea_popescu tho its quite possible they're ill intended too, sure. [03:52]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: I would be very interested to hear from you if you discover that they aren't just clueless, but seemingly deliberately clueless. [03:52]
dub they are chinese [03:52]
midnightmagic Or if you begin to make observations that suggest it is not pure ignorance. [03:52]
mircea_popescu i'll certinly say something [03:52]
mircea_popescu but so far my belief is they just don't understand finance [03:53]
mircea_popescu which is in fact common so. [03:53]
midnightmagic dub: And yet ngzhang is one of the most ethical businesspeople I've seen in a long time. [03:53]
mircea_popescu i dun think chineseness has much to do with anything [03:53]
dub midnightmagic: I'll assume you're being facetious? [03:53]
midnightmagic dub: Being Chinese doesn't really mean much. [03:53]
midnightmagic dub: I am not. ngzhang is extremely ethical, or else Icarus wouldn't exist. [03:53]
dub lets deal with teh first question, my mind is somewhat boggling [03:54]
mircea_popescu there's plenty of scummy americans, iranians, turks and eskimos in this world [03:54]
mircea_popescu and plenty of trustworthy same etc. [03:54]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: Eskimos don't like being called Eskimos. :) [03:54]
* midnightmagic ducks. [03:54]
mircea_popescu lol [03:54]
mircea_popescu well whatever, inuits. northern russian people. [03:54]
dub midnightmagic: this is the the same dude involved in avalon right? the 'we shipped' guy [03:54]
midnightmagic dub: The "we shipped and they're sitting in customs at the beginning of CNY." and also , "Geez, with all this negativity, maybe we'll just be quiet until there's actually something to talk about." guys.. [03:55]
midnightmagic dub: Also the latest update, "Rest of the units will have been shipped by around Mar 10, everyone should have batch #1 in hand by about mid-March" people. [03:56]
dub pitty they're not 'here are the tracking numbers' people though really [03:57]
dub anyway, being chinese decreases ones ability to think strategically and reason counterfactually [03:58]
dub this is a genetic/language thing thats been done to death [03:58]
midnightmagic ... I can't actually tell if you're serious. [03:58]
midnightmagic If you're jerking my chain, your delivery is too dry. [03:59]
dub im not, try meeting some chinese people [03:59]
dub I hear there are a couple up your way [03:59]
midnightmagic And how do you know I'm not Chinese origin? [04:00]
dub we'll I don't but based on past discussions I think its rather unlikely [04:01]
dub you are far too empathetic for one [04:01]
kakobrekla https://twitter.com/BitBets [04:03]
kakobrekla https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets [04:03]
midnightmagic dub: I'm at a loss here to meaningfully discuss this with you. I don't know where to start. If you're serious, I'm fairly sure we are so alien that there is basically no common ground on which to meaningfully converse for this topic. [04:03]
kakobrekla fyi [04:03]
dub anyway, if you remove any racist overtones you have automatically inferred, it explains a lot about the comms we've seen from avalon and asicminer [04:03]
kakobrekla no spam. [04:03]
midnightmagic dub: I haven't called you a racist yet. [04:03]
dub midnightmagic: you're gettign there, its par for the course with you (you'd make a terrible anthropologist) [04:03]
midnightmagic dub: Is it now. I'm.. glad you're paying such close attention to my activity that you think you have me pegged. [04:04]
kakobrekla ZOMG https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93445.msg1580072#msg1580072 [04:04]
dub midnightmagic: I don't really have time to go through this, there is quite a bit of literature out there [04:05]
kakobrekla During the BDT experience, because i was very concerned about the high interest bond and the lack of supporting high revenues i've made the decision (unethical, possibly illegal) to repurpose some of the funds raised with the IPO. [04:05]
kakobrekla Those funds were invested through some chinese partners of mine in asic equipment. [04:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0059 = 0.0295 BTC [+] [04:06]
midnightmagic dub: Much of the literature usually cited to conclude such things has been thoroughly debunked, so perhaps someday when you're willing to cite, after making such assertions, I'd be glad to read and evaluate such studies. [04:06]
dub midnightmagic: regarding the chinese, not your culteral naivety [04:06]
dub yes, well I'm more of an experience guy than a take debunkment at face value guy. Dorkins calls it the belief gene, though I don't really believe it exists. [04:08]
midnightmagic dub: Making negative assertions about the person you are having a discussion with is not usually productive. I'm readjusting my evaluation of your random, seemingly-connected comments post-statement. [04:08]
dub midnightmagic: its an observation grounded in experience, not a negative assertion [04:08]
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midnightmagic dub: I'm fairly sure your evaluation of my cultural "naivete" is based on incomplete data. [04:09]
midnightmagic dub: Also, if you are an experience guy, then why are you pointing to external data as the foundation of your assertions rather than just your experience? [04:10]
dub midnightmagic: thats easy, it closely mirrors what I have observed [04:10]
mircea_popescu this is a genetic/language thing thats been done to death << it's not genetic, it's cultural. [04:10]
midnightmagic dub: I'll presume you are aware of the notion of confirmation bias. [04:10]
mircea_popescu whoop, you just did it :D [04:11]
mircea_popescu Those funds were invested through some chinese partners of mine in asic equipment. <<< ahaha epic [04:12]
dub midnightmagic: and I'f I were a victim of that would I need to have read about this before or after observing it? [04:12]
midnightmagic dub: ALl that's required is that you reject well-grounded studies that disagree with your opinion, while selecting out those studies which agree with it or reinforce it in some fashion. [04:13]
dub I guess at some point, some people like to actually form an opinion [04:13]
midnightmagic dub: Sure, course. Nothing wrong with an opinion so long as data can update it. [04:15]
dub the problem is you can likely produce data to refute any opinion as can I [04:16]
* mircea_popescu is popcorning this one. [04:16]
midnightmagic dub: Lots of people think that, but it is also possible to assess the quality of the data. So, IMO, no, it's not possible to find quality data which refutes any opinion. [04:16]
midnightmagic dub: Or rather, it's not possible for me.. [04:17]
dub i'd like to continue this and know it looks like weasling out [04:18]
dub but im not in a meeting, on teh phone, and working to a thight deadline [04:19]
dub /snot/now [04:19]
midnightmagic I'm sorry you think that. You should realise that the implication is that I am aserting my mind can be changed. [04:19]
dub and typing without looking at my screen [04:19]
midnightmagic Unlike most people, I am not interested (this time) in simply honing my ability to refute. If and when you come up with actual cites, I'd be happy to look them up. I still have fulltext research credentials at the local university. [04:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.29 = 0.87 BTC [-] [04:22]
mircea_popescu now how'dja get that eh ? by exploiting the masses [04:22]
mircea_popescu by 'olding on to outdated imperialist dogma [04:22]
mircea_popescu which perpetuates the social and economic differences [04:23]
mircea_popescu within our society. [04:23]
mircea_popescu If there's ever going to be any progress... [04:23]
midnightmagic dub: Also, stop asserting stupid things about me. [04:25]
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BitHub so what happened with sdice divs? [04:28]
mircea_popescu ;;seen evoorhees [04:29]
gribble evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 55 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: perfect [04:29]
mircea_popescu well, contract says they got till the 5th [04:29]
BitHub hmm [04:29]
dub midnightmagic: a little while ago there was a conversation where you appeared to be floored by the notion that in some locations/cultures the base assumption of a strangers actions being altruistic was false [04:30]
Eduard_Munteanu I wonder if bitcoiners are going to experiment with different governance rules / contracts than you usually see in the real world. Which is usually majority of shares. [04:31]
midnightmagic dub: I was floored by the fact that it was so *in that specific locale*. [04:31]
dub midnightmagic: its not the only time you have appeared to me to base your arguments around a world view couched in priviledged western culture [04:32]
Eduard_Munteanu I guess mircea_popescu pledges to be the benevolent dictator of MPEx forever, after reading a bit through the contract. [04:33]
mircea_popescu Eduard_Munteanu let me dig that out for you [04:33]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/so-whats-the-plan-with-mpoempex/ [04:33]
error4733 haha mp you made my day ! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1517002#msg1517002 [04:34]
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mircea_popescu Eduard_Munteanu also, re the rules etc, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-mpex-rota/ http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rota-post-mortem/ [04:34]
mircea_popescu error4733 lol [04:35]
mircea_popescu if at least he had the guts to post something like "Same" [04:35]
mircea_popescu that'd have earned him some respect [04:35]
mircea_popescu but... weasels everywhere. [04:35]
dub midnightmagic: my memory of it is different, I don't think we were discussing a specific place, only the existence of such places [04:35]
mircea_popescu sometimes i suspect there's like five balls in three ballsacks available in the entire continental us. [04:36]
Eduard_Munteanu mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, did Silk Road ever approach you? To get listed, raise money and so forth. [04:36]
mircea_popescu i've not made a comment on the topic so far. [04:36]
Eduard_Munteanu I see. [04:37]
dub anyway, if I don't want this PM to actually climb up my ass I need to deliver some shit so I'm closing this term [04:37]
* Eduard_Munteanu was also reading on your stuff on SEC regulation [04:37]
mircea_popescu aha [04:37]
midnightmagic dub: It is a cultural perversion of what appears to be the most successful strategy for human progress. [04:37]
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BitHub good read mircea [04:39]
mircea_popescu ;) [04:40]
BitHub take the girls up and down the river? wtf [04:41]
BitHub i thought you were talkig about your daughters or something, till i click on the pics lul wtf [04:41]
mircea_popescu im not married / don't have kids. [04:42]
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Eduard_Munteanu Hmm, you know... they also said underground resources belong to the state... wouldn't surprise me if they deem Bitcoin mining a national resource as well. :) [04:42]
mircea_popescu that'll be very much their problem entirely. [04:42]
BitHub lul and these girls are your friends and you just hang out wtih them? [04:42]
mircea_popescu BitHub im hung so i hang. [04:43]
BitHub making a porno or something? [04:43]
mircea_popescu to quote, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2009/eu-am-un-succes-nebun-la-femei/ [04:44]
mircea_popescu (nu means no) [04:44]
BitHub i hope that's me in 5 years haha [04:44]
Eduard_Munteanu Heh. [04:45]
mircea_popescu why wait five years, i always say. [04:45]
BitHub trying to be realistic [04:46]
BitHub it did just give me a huge boost of motivation tho [04:46]
mircea_popescu srsly, girls are easy. you just have to make them feel safe they'll do anything. [04:46]
Eduard_Munteanu Like investors. :P [04:47]
mircea_popescu indeed. [04:47]
BitHub money first, then girls [04:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1134 = 0.2268 BTC [+] [04:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 8 @ 0.29248665 = 2.3399 BTC [+] [04:55]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22360455 = 223.6046 BTC [-] [04:55]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.19808896 = 198.089 BTC [-] [04:55]
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Chaang-Noi BitHub> money first, then girls (this does work well) [05:08]
Chaang-Noi anyone happen to know off the top of their head how many avolons were made in batch one? or the total hashing power? [05:08]
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thestringpuller approx 200 [05:13]
thestringpuller based on a 500,000 NRE cost on the chips I assume there will be at least 600 total on the first "batch" of chips [05:14]
thestringpuller why do you want to know? [05:14]
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Chaang-Noi i want to know how much asic miner shares are worth [05:19]
Chaang-Noi 600 times 60 ghs.... [05:22]
Chaang-Noi that is a lot, hmm [05:22]
Chaang-Noi just wonder if bfl will fail hard, are they still bumping or whatever? [05:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550011 = 5.5001 BTC [-] [05:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0055001 = 2.7501 BTC [-] [05:27]
dub midnightmagic: indeed, saw an interesting article about the very young having much greater altrustic tendancies which increases survival odds in an 'all the adults are dead' scenario [05:36]
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midnightmagic dub: I'm trying to dig up the log because I'm curious what I was thinking at the time. I've actually grown up in a place (yes, they exist even in Canada) where one must assume the stranger is evil. [05:47]
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midnightmagic dub: Do you have any more keywords for me to search on? [05:47]
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dub midnightmagic: egrep -i '(dub.*eastern.*europe)' #bitcoin-assets.log [05:51]
midnightmagic thanks [05:51]
midnightmagic stupid split logs anyway.. [05:51]
dub amusing false positive: 29-11-12-13:45 kakobreklaaa it's sharpie in pooper you person of dubious eastern european origin you [05:52]
dub midnightmagic: 12-12-12-20:59 [05:52]
dub thats US eastern [05:52]
kakobrekla lol [05:53]
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midnightmagic dub: *AWESOME* you just found for me the reference to the mpoe-pr boob pic that I've been searching for forever. [05:55]
mircea_popescu lol ?! [05:56]
dub we aim to please [05:56]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: Hey man, in that log on that day you're talking about that boobpic I've been trying to grep for forever. [05:56]
mircea_popescu cool [05:57]
mircea_popescu you've prolly given bithub even more determination charges. [05:57]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: Who me? [05:57]
mircea_popescu yes you. [05:57]
midnightmagic What are determination charges? [05:58]
mircea_popescu " it did just give me a huge boost of motivation tho" [05:58]
mircea_popescu i guess i used the wrong word [05:59]
midnightmagic dub: All I see is "[18:01:08] dub: What a horrible way to live, in constant fear." I guess all I can say is that's not a statement born of ignorance. [06:01]
midnightmagic I may have been quoting blade runner. [06:01]
midnightmagic (alternatively) [06:03]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [06:04]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.42598, Best ask: 34.57010, Bid-ask spread: 0.14412, Last trade: 34.42349, 24 hour volume: 14866.21945414, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.21380 [06:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 72000 @ 0.00175 = 126 BTC [-] [06:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00196988 = 0.9849 BTC [+] [06:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 555 @ 0.00196989 = 1.0933 BTC [+] [06:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1945 @ 0.00197 = 3.8317 BTC [+] [06:10]
Bowjob dice took a beating today [06:11]
pigeons up 10% from yesterday [06:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.00999 = 0.3497 BTC [+] [06:13]
mircea_popescu o hey [06:16]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.bbet [06:16]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00175 / 0.00175879 / 0.00197 (75000 shares, 131.91 BTC), 7D: 0.00175 / 0.00177002 / 0.00197 (79299 shares, 140.36 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00165663 / 0.00197 (127408 shares, 211.07 BTC) [06:16]
mircea_popescu lol more than half the month;s volume [06:16]
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mircea_popescu (28+74) * 1.1/1.5 [06:20]
mircea_popescu ;;calc (28+74) * 1.1/1.5 [06:20]
gribble 74.8 [06:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 29 @ 0.0059 = 0.1711 BTC [+] [06:22]
Bowjob I got out of dice just before it came tumbling [06:23]
Bowjob im pissed I have900 shares left.. [06:23]
Bowjob >_> [06:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 70 @ 0.099 = 6.93 BTC [-] [06:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00550001 = 11 BTC [-] [06:27]
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midnightmagic Why's SD tanking..? [06:30]
midnightmagic .. er.. if it's tanking. [06:30]
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Bowjob BTC is getting more and more valuable [06:33]
Bowjob and less and less people bet [06:33]
maximian less and less people bet? Doesn't look like it [06:36]
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maximian head over to http:///blockchain.info [06:36]
maximian it's the SatoshiDice show [06:36]
maximian Bitcoin should be renamed "Satoshi Dice presents Bitcoin" [06:37]
mircea_popescu lol [06:38]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic i think people are shifty yet. [06:38]
mircea_popescu after 2 years of pretty much nothing but scam after scam after scam many feel uneasy about keeping btc invested in same place [06:39]
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mircea_popescu you know the joke about the guy who cashed his bank account because he wanted to count his money ? something of the sort. [06:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7 @ 0.00077068 = 0.0054 BTC [-] [06:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 493 @ 0.00077068 = 0.3799 BTC [-] [06:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00550001 = 11 BTC [-] [06:42]
midnightmagic hrm. interesting. [06:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550001 = 5.5 BTC [-] [06:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 700 @ 0.0059 = 4.13 BTC [+] [06:51]
Bowjob ;;ticker [06:52]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.60667, Best ask: 34.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00333, Last trade: 34.61000, 24 hour volume: 14786.71661983, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.22162 [06:52]
Bowjob hm [06:52]
Bowjob low volume [06:55]
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Namworld mircea_popescu &/or kakobrekla [07:05]
Namworld Any of you around? [07:05]
mircea_popescu yea ? [07:05]
Namworld BBET statement says 5.44167918 BTC to be distributed as dividends. On 10 million shares, that's like 54.4 satoshi per share, but MPEx shows 32 satoshi per share. What's with that? [07:08]
iz ;;ticker [07:09]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.45894, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04106, Last trade: 34.50000, 24 hour volume: 15041.28017977, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.22749 [07:09]
mircea_popescu Namworld mpex got confused by the mistaken notion that 5mn shares are actually out [07:18]
mircea_popescu in reality only 3 are [07:18]
Namworld odd [07:23]
Namworld So long as the amount shown in my stats are good. But odd for the display. [07:24]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.61 = 2.44 BTC [-] [08:03]
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mircea_popescu "с умопомрачительным дизайном и таким же юзабилити :)" [08:34]
mircea_popescu ok, who dunnit! [08:34]
swhitt me [08:53]
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mircea_popescu for shame [09:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.0059 = 0.885 BTC [+] [09:08]
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molecular anyone know what's the holdup with paying out the march 1st bfl bet http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ ? [09:10]
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Bowjob http://www.unifycall.com/update/3avalon.jpg [09:11]
Bugpowder Molecular. That bet paid out already [09:13]
Bugpowder There was some issues with transaction size limits, info in a triilrma post [09:14]
molecular Bugpowder, oh [09:14]
Bugpowder I got my coins [09:15]
Bugpowder At least [09:15]
molecular Bugpowder, me too. lol [09:15]
molecular Bugpowder, I thought it'd state the payouts on the site... rechecking, maybe I just overlooked [09:15]
midnightmagic Bowjob: what the hell man where's that [09:15]
Bugpowder 1mb was too small for the total transaction! Had to be split [09:15]
Bowjob China [09:15]
midnightmagic Bowjob: Oh. I guess I knew that. [09:16]
Bowjob The dude now has 5 of those babies [09:16]
midnightmagic Bowjob: One of their Chinese customers stripped it apart I think and took a picture. [09:16]
Bowjob yeah [09:16]
Bowjob ballsy move [09:16]
midnightmagic very, imo [09:16]
mircea_popescu molecular ya was paid like 2 days ago [09:16]
mircea_popescu or 3 [09:16]
Bowjob when i get mine, id be making $30 a day lol [09:16]
Bowjob I just hope BFL fucks up again, just pleaseee [09:17]
mircea_popescu lol [09:17]
mircea_popescu what's the april one at [09:17]
mircea_popescu 60ish not bad [09:17]
Bowjob looks like avalon will deliver their promise by april 1st [09:17]
Bowjob not sure on bfl [09:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+] [09:18]
midnightmagic Bowjob: Last update said something about all b#1 orders will have been shipped by mar 10, and everyone should have them by mid- to end of march.. [09:18]
mircea_popescu so then bet is right on point [09:18]
midnightmagic I really never thought Avalon would beat them all to the punch like this. [09:19]
midnightmagic I threw some orders at them just for the appreciation of their work with Icarus. [09:19]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic it's an avalon/asicminer tie so far, apparently. [09:19]
Bowjob so its avalon 1, then bfl 1.. then avalon 2? [09:19]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: *technically* Avalon boxes started hashing first. :) [09:19]
Bowjob then theres this hungarian company that apparently made an asic as well [09:20]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: And in the hands of actual customers.. [09:20]
mircea_popescu okay, but you need eyeglasses to separate it [09:20]
Bowjob available for pick up [09:20]
midnightmagic Bowjob: Is that Reclaimer? [09:20]
midnightmagic I thought he was russian.. [09:20]
Bowjob no [09:20]
midnightmagic Not Tycho then. [09:20]
Bowjob primeasic [09:20]
Bowjob hungary.. is it a safe place? [09:21]
midnightmagic Bowjob: There's also a 22nm asic SOC vendor that's farming out chips to board designers. [09:21]
Bowjob yeah, yifu is interested in that as well [09:21]
Bowjob in sweden i think [09:21]
Bowjob mining competition is gonna be really tough this year [09:21]
Bowjob my electricity costs are 10 cents per kwh [09:22]
Bowjob well, its 6.8 cents for the first 1350 KW, then the rest is billed at 10.12 cents thereafter [09:23]
Bowjob mhm [09:23]
midnightmagic Bowjob: I'm currently at 0.0865 CAD/KwH [09:23]
midnightmagic or.. kWh or whatever. [09:23]
Bowjob where [09:23]
Bowjob electricity doesnt matter at this point.. not yet anyway [09:24]
midnightmagic Bowjob: consumer wins, we just have to time our buys right.. [09:24]
Bowjob its the first who gets the asic [09:24]
midnightmagic Bowjob: I suspect if we care about power consumption now, we'll end up winning in the long run. They're all priced approximately the same. [09:24]
midnightmagic Bowjob: There's an *enormous* wave of mining customers coming soon-ish due to the sudden tidal wave price. Getting in line at this point for summertime asic is going to be a bad move.. [09:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17 @ 0.00560002 = 0.0952 BTC [+] [09:41]
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mircea_popescu getting in line is always a bad move. [09:48]
mircea_popescu wtf is this even, "getting in line" [09:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6115 @ 0.00076564 = 4.6819 BTC [-] [09:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00077068 = 3.391 BTC [+] [09:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1357 @ 0.00077069 = 1.0458 BTC [+] [09:56]
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Chaang-Noi who here holds ltc :) [10:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00983 = 0.0983 BTC [-] [10:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.009821 = 0.108 BTC [-] [10:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 28 @ 0.0075 = 0.21 BTC [-] [10:08]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00573 = 0.573 BTC [-] [18:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00561 = 0.561 BTC [-] [18:14]
iz ;;ticker [18:15]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.20000, Best ask: 35.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 35.30000, 24 hour volume: 28845.84682379, 24 hour low: 33.98600, 24 hour high: 35.35000, 24 hour vwap: 34.73691 [18:15]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 290 @ 0.00561 = 1.6269 BTC [-] [18:22]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 319 @ 0.00561 = 1.7896 BTC [-] [18:39]
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Namworld Who wants some S.DICE before the dividend arrives? [18:51]
Namworld (PT) [18:51]
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ThickAsThieves &estimate [19:10]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 4859710.18648 based on data since last change | 4903754.75592 based on data for last three days [19:10]
blu3gr1ffon ;;ticker [19:10]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.00000, Best ask: 36.00714, Bid-ask spread: 0.00714, Last trade: 36.00000, 24 hour volume: 34856.36975002, 24 hour low: 33.99871, 24 hour high: 36.15000, 24 hour vwap: 34.95547 [19:10]
ThickAsThieves nice [19:12]
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blu3gr1ffon ;;goxlag [19:15]
gribble 106.133771 seconds [19:15]
kakobrekla washappening [19:15]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.595 = 1.785 BTC [-] [19:20]
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Namworld price going up again and again [19:25]
Namworld is what is happening [19:25]
Namworld No one wants S.DICE-PT? [19:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.595 = 2.975 BTC [-] [19:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.595 = 7.14 BTC [-] [19:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 555 @ 0.00594999 = 3.3022 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 445 @ 0.00595 = 2.6478 BTC [+] [19:34]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.034 = 0.068 BTC [-] [19:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6771 @ 0.00076784 = 5.199 BTC [-] [19:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00077999 = 1.3876 BTC [+] [19:48]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.595 = 3.57 BTC [-] [20:00]
maximian Anyone know where Erik has been travelling? [20:05]
Namworld I think he went to the Earth's core or something. Unfortunately there's no vehicle capable of reaching there and he started his journey by jumping in a volcano. [20:08]
mircea_popescu lol what ?! [20:11]
Namworld Spouting random made up stuff. [20:11]
TomServo Isn't that the beginning of the Scientology story? [20:11]
mircea_popescu yeah lol [20:11]
maximian Maybe he's working on selling S.DICE to the crab people [20:11]
Namworld What? Is it? [20:11]
Namworld I thought spouting random stuff was Bitcoin's national sport. [20:12]
Namworld But apparently what I'm saying was not random at all. [20:12]
mircea_popescu :p [20:12]
ZedsterX depends on who ya ask [20:12]
mircea_popescu "everything new in this world is the history you didn't know" [20:12]
maximian So, someone moved 10,000 BTC back into MPEx: [20:13]
maximian http://blockchain.info/tx/34ee8eb5d04ec6a278223b0ea02a36c9104710e6cdd02a5d5ece9b03533d6b5e [20:13]
ZedsterX yeah that was me [20:14]
maximian Buy everything! [20:14]
Bugpowder too bad its erik [20:14]
maximian I'm thinking it's evoorhees [20:14]
ZedsterX be my guess [20:15]
Namworld I'm thinking S.DICE dividend [20:15]
Namworld Go S.DICE! [20:15]
Bugpowder its funny that he moved it all in instead of just 1750 though [20:15]
maximian But why 10k? [20:15]
Namworld hmm... nvm [20:16]
Bugpowder it is definitely him [20:16]
Namworld How do you know? [20:16]
Namworld Not sure why 10k [20:16]
Bugpowder because that address is from when he withdrew 10k last time [20:16]
Bugpowder and he said on the forum that he just deposited [20:16]
Namworld ah [20:16]
Namworld great [20:17]
Bugpowder Dunno why the whole 10k though [20:17]
Bugpowder prop up the S.DICE value post div ;-) [20:17]
maximian maybe he just didn't think about it, was in a hurry [20:17]
topace i dunno, if i was moving $350000 wort of coins, i think i'd stop to "think about it" [20:18]
Bugpowder on a mobile phone [20:18]
Bugpowder correction $363,800 [20:18]
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midnightmagic Namworld: scientoglogist prophet! [20:19]
Bugpowder correction 365,000 [20:21]
mircea_popescu But why 10k? he has to pay 50mn shares [20:23]
Bugpowder Only 13mn shares on the market. [20:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1868 @ 0.00077999 = 1.457 BTC [+] [20:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9982 @ 0.00078 = 7.786 BTC [+] [20:23]
Bugpowder but maybe I don't understand the backend [20:24]
mircea_popescu 13mn in third party hands on the market + 37 mn in erik's hands on the market = 50mn [20:24]
mircea_popescu +50mn which make up the golden ticket = 100mn, whole float. [20:24]
Namworld price is going... up [20:26]
Namworld ;;ticker [20:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.31083, Best ask: 36.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12917, Last trade: 36.33499, 24 hour volume: 41528.95196789, 24 hour low: 33.99871, 24 hour high: 36.50000, 24 hour vwap: 35.17091 [20:26]
maximian So he still has to pay divs to the 37mn shares that aren't on the market? [20:26]
mircea_popescu how aren't they on the market ? [20:26]
Bugpowder I new I should have waited a few more hours before buying something on bitcoinstore.com [20:26]
maximian I should say, that he hasn't sold yet [20:27]
mircea_popescu lol [20:27]
mircea_popescu maximian well yes, shares get dividends. [20:27]
mircea_popescu makes no diff who owns them [20:27]
Bugpowder the confusion may come in the Dividends box [20:28]
Bugpowder info [20:28]
maximian So shouldn't last month's divs have been 10,000 BTC instead of 2,000? [20:28]
mircea_popescu maximian but last month there literally were only 10mn on the market. [20:28]
Bugpowder Hashrate over 40TH/s [20:28]
maximian ah, ok [20:29]
maximian as per contract [20:29]
mircea_popescu maximian this is designed to reinforce proof. [20:30]
mircea_popescu mpex won't let someone pay fewer shares than actually are issued [20:30]
mircea_popescu so every time a dividend is pay you actually know the actual exact total, from the receipt. [20:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00078 = 4.68 BTC [+] [20:30]
maximian good to know. I had forgotten that the contracted allowed for evoorhees to put another 40mn shares on the market last month. [20:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00594999 = 5.95 BTC [-] [20:32]
mircea_popescu it also works to reinforce proof the other way [20:33]
mircea_popescu someone declares X dividends, he'd better be able to show the cash too [20:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 355 @ 0.00595 = 2.1123 BTC [+] [20:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00597999 = 11.96 BTC [+] [20:34]
ThickAsThieves &estimate [20:34]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 4825329.9214 based on data since last change | 4946742.16185 based on data for last three days [20:35]
Bugpowder 36.53 [20:36]
Bugpowder AAPL @ 2 year low [20:36]
Bugpowder GOOG at all time hi [20:36]
mircea_popescu ;;ident burnside [20:36]
gribble Nick 'burnside', with hostmask 'burnside!~burnside@12.9.242.2', is not identified. [20:36]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder im curious how Ts will go. [20:37]
jurov ;bc,convert eur [20:38]
jurov ;;bc,convert eur [20:38]
gribble 1 BTC = 36.70000 U.S. dollars = 28.2568525 Euros [20:38]
Bugpowder yeah [20:39]
Bugpowder me too [20:39]
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ZedsterX ;;bc,xau [20:41]
gribble 1 XAU = 1573.500000000000 USD = 43.0861572542 BTC [20:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.3333 = 0.9999 BTC [-] [20:41]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 30 @ 0.33317 = 9.9951 BTC [-] [20:41]
Bugpowder Got a good one for bitbet [20:42]
Bugpowder The price of a 25BTC Casascius coin > 1 Kruggerand. [20:43]
mircea_popescu haha put it in [20:43]
Bugpowder I should take a side by side pic and post to reddit as well. [20:43]
mircea_popescu totally. [20:43]
Bugpowder ;;calc 36.70*25 [20:43]
gribble 917.5 [20:43]
Bugpowder Hmm [20:44]
Bugpowder Whats a good time frame [20:44]
Bugpowder April 1? [20:45]
Bugpowder nah [20:45]
Bugpowder April 15? [20:45]
ZedsterX need at least a month [20:45]
Bugpowder lets just extrapolate linearly [20:45]
Bugpowder and use that as the date [20:46]
Bugpowder ;;calc 43/25 [20:46]
gribble 1.72 [20:46]
Bugpowder 34% growth last month [20:47]
Bugpowder lets do 2 months [20:47]
ZedsterX hate when ppl use math :) [20:48]
mircea_popescu 1st of may, worker's day [20:50]
Bugpowder yah [20:53]
Eduard_Munteanu Don't tell me MPEx is closed for 1st of May. :) [20:54]
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mircea_popescu lol [20:56]
mircea_popescu mpex hasn't actually been closed yet [20:56]
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mircea_popescu much unlike everyone else. [20:56]
mircea_popescu there was a ~hour ddos a while back, but that's all. [20:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.6 = 5.4 BTC [+] [21:00]
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blu3gr1ffon who runs betsofbitco.in? [21:03]
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mircea_popescu ;;ident FabianB [21:13]
gribble Nick 'FabianB', with hostmask 'FabianB!~ogg@unaffiliated/fabianb', is identified as user fabianb, with GPG key id 797C1106D52E79DF, key fingerprint 9B854E5F36B927C9C365F208797C1106D52E79DF, and bitcoin address 18Wnjc1fcWDboZDHNsn48URtwGaqRjPnAt [21:13]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.655 = 3.275 BTC [21:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.65 = 5.2 BTC [-] [21:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [-] [21:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.65 = 7.15 BTC [-] [21:23]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [-] [21:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.65 = 10.4 BTC [-] [21:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.65 = 3.9 BTC [-] [21:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] [21:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [-] [21:23]
mircea_popescu lol @O.BTCUSD.C370T [21:28]
mircea_popescu bot's out of options so the people are fighting! [21:28]
mircea_popescu !ticker btct asicminer-pt [21:29]
assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC) [21:29]
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jurov you're out of options? so early in month? [21:29]
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ZedsterX there goes all my shares cuz getting BTC in DK over the weekend sucks [21:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.34499 = 1.725 BTC [+] [21:32]
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jurov lmao "Budapest is known for a hub of scamming activity" [21:33]
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jurov that primeasic thread starts being juicy [21:33]
ZedsterX heheh i just read that too [21:35]
jurov well, if the hungarian govt is considered, that's fair assessment [21:35]
ZedsterX ouch [21:35]
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parseval Nice, the asicminer pass-through went active [21:37]
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mircea_popescu jurov a shitton sold on those lines [21:38]
mircea_popescu actually budapest is known as a hub for porn. [21:38]
jurov mircea, have you seen wikipedia's world penis length map? [21:39]
jurov hungary looks like a piece of africa there [21:39]
dub fuuu .65 [21:41]
dub temptation to sell rising [21:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0055 = 0.0165 BTC [-] [21:42]
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Lyspooner i hope kim dotcom gets credit for inventing bitcoin [21:44]
Lyspooner he's a much more flamboyant leader than, say, gavin [21:45]
ZedsterX isn't budapest Rocco Siffredi's home? [21:45]
mircea_popescu how's he a leader ? [21:45]
dub he is the man [21:45]
ZedsterX amen [21:46]
Lyspooner he will portray himself that way and the media will follow along [21:46]
mircea_popescu so like obama. [21:46]
mircea_popescu hey, i'm with you, i hope it happens [21:46]
mircea_popescu more drama -> more value for btc. [21:46]
dub kim is jesus [21:46]
mircea_popescu dub to quote some cartoon, he's jsut stupid and fat. [21:47]
dub idk about stupid, takes some ability to copy a business model and make buttloads off it [21:47]
mircea_popescu dub this crashes into your ideas about the chinese. [21:48]
mircea_popescu since they took ford's model and are currently raping the americans with it. [21:48]
dub I didn't say they were stupid [21:48]
mircea_popescu but you didn't say they're jesus either. [21:49]
dub that is true [21:49]
* mircea_popescu shows midnightmagic how it's done. [21:49]
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Lyspooner what is NAT.ROUTERS [21:51]
mircea_popescu kim's new project. [21:51]
dub I thought his new project was inventing crypto [21:51]
mircea_popescu broken js crypto, to be precise. he's done that. [21:52]
mircea_popescu now he invents ips [21:52]
dub Lyspooner: what does your question relate to? [22:00]
Lyspooner it's on the bottom of the mpex list of contracts [22:01]
dub right [22:01]
dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139337.0 deathbylolipop need to get in on this [22:04]
burnside ;;ident burnside [22:07]
gribble Nick 'burnside', with hostmask 'burnside!~burnside@12.9.242.2', is identified as user burnside, with GPG key id 990D4DB54ECDA3C6, key fingerprint 2EEB40C9DF5E25E6BD3A7BF8990D4DB54ECDA3C6, and bitcoin address None [22:07]
mircea_popescu who pays 4 btc for that ?! [22:08]
Lyspooner caffeinewriter [22:08]
burnside now what happens if six months down the road friedcat pulls a gigavps ? -- I think we would have to do the AML paperwork. [22:08]
mircea_popescu burnside i'm just saying, you are underwriting a lot of risk that you can't control. [22:08]
burnside definitely. thus the disclaimers in the contract. [22:09]
mircea_popescu thus also the liquidity disparity. [22:10]
burnside I'm more worried about their competition beating them out though than I am about friedcat running off. [22:10]
mircea_popescu it's not your fault, best i can see, just asicminer acting very weird. [22:10]
burnside Yeah, I can't figure out if it's the lack of sleep, or what. [22:10]
dub what is the weird acting? [22:10]
mircea_popescu dub baiscally they choked their investors by refusing to list to the point that people out of sheer desperations made private pts [22:10]
mircea_popescu now one of the most promising ipos of the year so far has been reduced to a 70 btc opening day. [22:11]
dub oh right [22:11]
Namworld god, why did I sold all these ASICMINER shares for 0.40 =/ [22:11]
dub Namworld: want to buy some? [22:11]
dub 0.7 :) [22:11]
mircea_popescu lol [22:11]
Namworld no, not buying [22:12]
mircea_popescu Namworld the girl said .75 to 1.5 [22:12]
mircea_popescu why don't you listen to the girl ? :D [22:12]
Namworld I sold some time ago? Before she even said anything I believe. [22:12]
mircea_popescu a well then there's your answer ! [22:12]
mircea_popescu you sold earlier. [22:12]
burnside tbh tho, 0.4 is still 4x what you got 'em for, no? [22:12]
mircea_popescu i think he paid a little premium [22:13]
burnside not a bad return on ~6 months? [22:13]
ZedsterX i want to buy some but banks are too slow [22:13]
Namworld Also if Friedcat had shares trading again after GLBSE closed you would probably have been able to buy back my ASICMINER cheap to fill that short contract. [22:13]
mircea_popescu Namworld at any point between october and january they could have listed and been tip top shape [22:15]
mircea_popescu all through february and still acceptable [22:15]
dub mircea_popescu: so in reality your 'acting weird' could simply be explained by, inability to strategize [22:15]
mircea_popescu but march is already dropping the ball. [22:15]
mircea_popescu dub that is acting weird. [22:16]
dub to you maybe [22:16]
dub to me its just acting chinese [22:16]
burnside doh [22:16]
mircea_popescu i've not fucked enough chinese girls to have a clue so far. [22:16]
Namworld I should have bought these [22:16]
Namworld Instead of lending to Amazingrando. [22:16]
dub the failure here is your preconception of normal thiking [22:16]
dub thinking* [22:17]
Anduck Namworld: how much they're paying now? [22:17]
mircea_popescu Anduck they paid like 2% or something like that. [22:17]
mircea_popescu 2.5% mebbe [22:17]
Namworld ASICMINER already sent a first payment? [22:17]
dub yes [22:17]
mircea_popescu in other news, mpex db dump has been optimized to take up less space. nothing's broken, it's just naturally halfsized. [22:17]
mircea_popescu Namworld yes. [22:17]
mod6 sweet! [22:18]
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Anduck mircea_popescu: yeah they paid 0.025 btc/share [22:19]
Anduck or smth like that [22:19]
Namworld hmm... If you had bought back then 10k USD of bitcoins at 5 USD each for 2k BTC [22:19]
Anduck but i mean [22:19]
Anduck how much are they selling those shares for? [22:19]
mircea_popescu Anduck !ticker btct asicminer-pt [22:19]
Anduck !ticker btct asicminer-pt [22:19]
assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC) [22:19]
Anduck couldnt do it urself??? [22:19]
Namworld and bought 20k ASICMINER (10k USD). You'd now have 20k x 0.65 BTC = 13 000 BTC worth [22:19]
Anduck yup [22:20]
Anduck =) [22:20]
Namworld or close to half a million dollar at today's prices [22:20]
Anduck i was lucky [22:20]
mircea_popescu Namworld no. things don't scale like that. you'd have ~70 btc's worth of shares and 12930 btc worth of paper & dreams. [22:20]
Anduck i bought asicminer with all my glbse stack xD [22:20]
Namworld mircea: I'm only evaluating current trading price. [22:20]
Anduck but -really- they buy asicminer for 0.65?? =D [22:20]
Anduck I LIKE THAT [22:20]
mircea_popescu ya but you'r extrapolating a little out of band [22:20]
Namworld As long as ASICMINER keeps up like that. [22:21]
mircea_popescu Anduck i think if you push burnside your stocks you get the pt and can trade [22:21]
Namworld Probably achievable. [22:21]
Namworld You could sell part for your initial 2k BTC no problem tho. [22:21]
ThickAsThieves you can push to Deadterra on BF too, he's free, and takes 0% of divs [22:21]
Anduck nah i dont wanna trade, mp [22:21]
mircea_popescu no Namworld. if asicminer keeps up like it's currently doing it'll go to shit. [22:22]
mircea_popescu they have to seriously adjust themselves. [22:22]
ThickAsThieves asicminer better get more hashing online soon [22:22]
Namworld eh [22:22]
mircea_popescu this is certainly an exciting spring [22:22]
Namworld on a sidenote [22:23]
* Namworld is borrowing BTC @ 0.03% daily, 166.89/500 BTC left to fill. https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND [22:23]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.03 ** 30 [22:23]
gribble 0 [22:23]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.03 ** 30.0 [22:23]
gribble 0 [22:23]
mircea_popescu da fuck ?! [22:24]
mircea_popescu o [22:24]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.03 ** 30.0 [22:24]
gribble 2.42726247119 [22:24]
dub scale owned [22:24]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.0003 ** 30.0 [22:24]
gribble 1.00903925984 [22:24]
Anduck uhh [22:24]
mircea_popescu wait. what ? you're paying 1% a month ?~ [22:24]
Namworld Yeah [22:24]
Namworld A bit less [22:24]
mircea_popescu and people are actually sending you btc ?! [22:24]
Namworld 10.95% per year [22:24]
Namworld Yeah... [22:25]
mircea_popescu lol ok [22:25]
mircea_popescu but this is a. less than dividends for most stocks b. much less than mpoe bonds etc. [22:25]
dub this is btc [22:25]
mircea_popescu i guess so lol [22:25]
Namworld But daily interest, callable at face value anytime. [22:25]
Namworld I guess the possibility to withdraw at face value anytime is interesting enough. [22:26]
mircea_popescu we totally have to shed these paycheck loan faces off btc already [22:26]
dub Namworld: you pay interest daily? as divs oslt [22:27]
blu3gr1ffon I used to work in title loans and payday lending. [22:27]
blu3gr1ffon got away with %300 on title loans. [22:28]
blu3gr1ffon customers loved us too. [22:28]
Namworld dub: yes [22:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1231 = 12.31 BTC [+] [22:28]
Namworld Comes to 300 satoshi per 0.01 BTC share daily. [22:29]
B0g4r7_ Did you look at the cars? [22:30]
B0g4r7_ I always wondered what would happen if I brought in the title to my wrecked car. [22:30]
Namworld It's not that bad actually. [22:30]
mircea_popescu B0g4r7 50-50 you'd get a loan [22:31]
burnside wow ltc is back on the rise. Network Hash Rate 1,018.123 GH/s [22:31]
B0g4r7_ If I tried at a few different loan places the odds get pretty good. [22:32]
blu3gr1ffon B0g4r7_: we did, full checks. does it run, does it go into reverse, is anything spewing. [22:32]
B0g4r7_ heh [22:32]
blu3gr1ffon then we'd give them 1/4 - 1/2 NADA value. they'd give us title [22:32]
blu3gr1ffon only way around lending laws. [22:33]
mircea_popescu did you have your lot and everything ? [22:34]
blu3gr1ffon we housed at our associates property. tow lot. [22:34]
B0g4r7_ title loans and tows. [22:35]
blu3gr1ffon good times. [22:35]
B0g4r7_ Throw in a bail bondsman, a PI, and a debt collection agency and you've got a full house. [22:35]
blu3gr1ffon WE got into it from check cashing, so we were half-way there. [22:36]
blu3gr1ffon in house collections. nice to know a skilled skip tracer [22:36]
blu3gr1ffon course, internets makes their job easier these days [22:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.005501 = 5.501 BTC [+] [22:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.005501 = 5.501 BTC [+] [22:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.005501 = 5.501 BTC [+] [22:55]
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Lyspooner in 2001 kim dotcom bought 375,000 EUR worth of shares in letsbuyit.com and subsequently announced is intention to invest 50 million euros in the company. [22:56]
Lyspooner the announcement caused the share value of letsbuyit.com to jump and dotcom cashed out, making a profit of 1.5 million eur [22:56]
dub an den? [22:58]
Lyspooner and then he was arrested [22:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 661 @ 0.005501 = 3.6362 BTC [+] [22:58]
Lyspooner this time he won't be arrested [22:59]
dub pretty sure he's gettign extradited from nz [22:59]
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pgp ::ticker [22:59]
pgp ;;ticker [23:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.27000, Best ask: 36.27099, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 36.27700, 24 hour volume: 44153.48588405, 24 hour low: 34.16966, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.37953 [23:00]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner he's in jail already neh ? [23:00]
dub no [23:00]
mircea_popescu orly ? [23:00]
dub he's on some form of bail iirc [23:01]
dub judge gave him bail after a bunch of illegal shit about his arrest surfaced [23:02]
mircea_popescu o o i recall [23:03]
mircea_popescu illegal surveillance, nz being a puppet state, yeah [23:04]
dub yeah [23:04]
mircea_popescu the usual "we confiscate all your money now you go ahead hire lawyers" [23:04]
mircea_popescu and all that jazz. [23:04]
dub and the lulzy.. spook dept. that isnt allowed to spy on nz citizens, didn't know he was a citizen [23:05]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:06]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.27100, Best ask: 36.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02900, Last trade: 36.30000, 24 hour volume: 44219.25916777, 24 hour low: 34.16966, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.38096 [23:06]
mircea_popescu dude the oix is coming true omfg. [23:06]
kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur [23:06]
gribble 1 BTC = 36.30000 U.S. dollars = 27.9488759 Euros [23:06]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder you seeing this shit ? [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-] [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00525106 = 2.6255 BTC [-] [23:07]
kakobrekla fuck this [23:07]
kakobrekla avearage iq on the forum is -20 [23:08]
Bugpowder seiing what? [23:08]
dub nowai? [23:08]
Bugpowder Kim? [23:08]
dub Kim is about to dump, suggset panic selling [23:08]
Bugpowder Lol [23:08]
Bugpowder nah he is gonna pump this shit up. [23:08]
Bugpowder Now my wife's girlfriends are asking me how to buy coins. [23:09]
dub FUCK [23:09]
kakobrekla yeah [23:09]
kakobrekla its a bubble when u get that. [23:09]
kakobrekla jk [23:09]
Bugpowder not yet [23:09]
dub yerp [23:09]
Bugpowder gotta be the shoeshiners [23:09]
Bugpowder when they tip you off. Time to sell. [23:09]
error4733 it's a trap [23:10]
pgp hi [23:10]
dub sup, you Kim Dotcom? [23:10]
Bugpowder dude [23:11]
Bugpowder you gotta get MEGA to IPO on MPEX [23:11]
dub he invented pgp yo [23:11]
pgp lol initials [23:11]
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mjr___ jurov: you around? [23:11]
mjr___ by the way, good job on the OIX mircea [23:12]
jurov mjr___ what's up? [23:13]
mjr___ just referred my friend [23:13]
mjr___ :) [23:13]
mircea_popescu cool [23:13]
mjr___ he signed up for coinbr, did the referral code and all that work out right? [23:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00077308 = 6.7258 BTC [-] [23:14]
mircea_popescu i have no idea tbh [23:14]
jurov nice. [23:14]
jurov but he has to fund to be able to do anything ofc. [23:14]
mjr___ yeah he sent 30 [23:14]
jurov ah, that was him. yes, it's well. [23:15]
mjr___ waiting on it to verify now, i think [23:15]
mjr___ haven't checked blockchain info in a few min [23:15]
mjr___ ok, got two so far :) [23:15]
jurov oh someone sent 30 yest.. so this is other one [23:15]
mjr___ buy buy buy [23:16]
mjr___ yes, just sent it [23:16]
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mjr___ i'm actually on his comp right now, he prob goes by pgp [23:17]
mjr___ but he hasn't talked much on this channel [23:17]
mjr___ your the best jurov thanks a bunch [23:18]
jurov :) had to forward it, need to wait a bit [23:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0056 = 16.8 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [+] [23:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.596 = 12.516 BTC [-] [23:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.595 = 2.975 BTC [-] [23:23]
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dub dice div come through? [23:26]
Bugpowder not yet [23:26]
Bugpowder deposit is in though [23:26]
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kakobrekla assbot will tell you when that happens [23:26]
mircea_popescu where's that pic of the cats [23:26]
mircea_popescu and yes, assbot now says [23:26]
kakobrekla he will fart out the dividend. [23:26]
kakobrekla it [23:26]
kakobrekla she for jurov [23:27]
jurov mircea_popescu, will you delist s.dice if erik won't make it in 3 hours? [23:27]
kakobrekla DOO IT [23:27]
mircea_popescu lol. [23:27]
mircea_popescu well, actually, the 5th is tomorrow [23:27]
* mircea_popescu goes to read the contract [23:27]
jurov it says before 5th [23:27]
Bowjob OMG [23:28]
Bowjob Look at that bitbet [23:28]
Bowjob xD [23:28]
Bowjob 200 BTC on NO [23:28]
Bowjob Woww [23:28]
Bowjob hahahaha [23:28]
mircea_popescu (e)The representatives of SatoshiDice solemnly promise and warrant that complete and accurate Statements of Profit and Loss for each calendar month will be published by them no later than by the fifth day of the new month. [23:28]
mircea_popescu (f)Immediately upon publication of each Statement of Profit and Loss SatoshiDice will pay to shareholders [23:28]
mircea_popescu well... e he did, f however no. let's see what he's up to [23:29]
mircea_popescu Bowjob which one ? [23:29]
Bowjob the BFL one [23:30]
Bowjob I was leaning on "yes" since apparently they are getting their shit together.. now im not sure again [23:30]
Bowjob Yifu apparently bet on the BFL march bet and won a fuckton [23:31]
Bowjob http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ [23:31]
mircea_popescu which was he, the 700 or the 600 ? [23:32]
Bowjob huh,.? [23:32]
Bowjob he's probably the one who put up 300++ BTC [23:33]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ [23:33]
mircea_popescu le wow, 10:1 huh [23:33]
Bowjob mhm. I thought it was you [23:33]
mircea_popescu maybe it's josh [23:34]
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dub haha wtf [23:37]
dub trendon shavers showing up in my linkedin cloud [23:38]
kakobrekla lol [23:38]
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iz lol [23:38]
iz add him [23:38]
dub I have no bitcoiners on there so srsly wtfing [23:38]
iz and endorce him for pyramid marketing [23:38]
dub PH there too [23:39]
kakobrekla maybe its groping the scammurs [23:39]
dub I must have stalked them at some point [23:39]
iz dub: http://www.bash.org/?115 [23:44]
guruvan what's up in here - been a minute since I've been in [23:45]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/284/primeasic-has-a-miner/ [23:45]
mircea_popescu there we go. [23:45]
mircea_popescu o hi guruvan [23:46]
guruvan ohai MP - how's things? good to see you [23:46]
dub iz: lol [23:46]
B0g4r7_ Does bitbet work linke BoB where they close the statement to betting if it becomes moot? [23:47]
guruvan mircea_popescu: bitbet looks pretty good - was checking it out today some [23:47]
mircea_popescu i think it's getting some traction [23:47]
B0g4r7_ Like, suppose BFL ships March 10, will the bet still be open? [23:47]
mircea_popescu at least by the cooked graphs i have here. [23:47]
B0g4r7_ I know they won't but if they did... [23:48]
mircea_popescu B0g4r7 nah, once it's clear a bet ended early they get closed [23:48]
mircea_popescu it's not INSTANTANEOUS mind you, [23:48]
mircea_popescu but nevertheless. [23:48]
B0g4r7_ http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=447 [23:49]
B0g4r7_ "If no product has shipped by February 28th/2013, the product shall be considered vapourware and the statement shall be ruled as draw." [23:49]
B0g4r7_ I just got refunded for that one. [23:49]
mircea_popescu umm [23:49]
mircea_popescu wait,d raw ?! [23:49]
mircea_popescu wtf bullshit bfl sponsored meni rosenfeld crap is this [23:50]
B0g4r7_ ya rly [23:50]
mircea_popescu "we're making a bet except if we lose it's really get our money back" [23:50]
dub why does only faggy shit get through bash.org mods [23:50]
dub http://www.bash.org/?952948 [23:50]
mircea_popescu no wonder josh was spewing all that bs about bitbet. [23:50]
mircea_popescu kinda hurts to have people that won't push scams huh. [23:51]
Bugpowder yeah I was going to drop major coin on that bfl bet, then I read the fine print.... DRAW? [23:51]
dub none of the comedy gold I've submitted over the years has made it [23:51]
B0g4r7_ "This is gold, Jerry! Pure gold!" [23:53]
kakobrekla bah bitbet is so red [23:53]
kakobrekla cmon guys be more positive [23:53]
Bowjob lol. Im confused now.. I want to be on blue.. but WTF [23:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 846 @ 0.005501 = 4.6538 BTC [-] [23:55]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/284/primeasic-has-a-miner/ somebody likes prime ? [23:55]
Bugpowder It's the 10% of advertised specs part that has me worried [23:55]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 12/0.07 [23:55]
gribble 171.428571429 [23:55]
ThickAsThieves &estimate [23:55]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 4900626.90236 based on data since last change | 4958374.43923 based on data for last three days [23:55]
B0g4r7_ Maybe primeasic pirated Avalon's chip design. [23:56]
B0g4r7_ It'd be about right for the power numbers. [23:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5951 = 2.3804 BTC [+] [23:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.595 = 2.975 BTC [-] [23:57]
mircea_popescu chinese guy's hungarian girlfriend ? [23:57]
jurov if avalon is really a fpga's hardcopy, baybe they just used same blob [23:57]
kakobrekla lol [23:57]
B0g4r7_ hardcopy doesn't come in QFN. [23:57]
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mircea_popescu it'd be really retarded to make asics as fpga hardcopy wtf. [23:58]
mircea_popescu nobody can be that dumb [23:58]
Bowjob who knows about blockhain.info here [23:59]
Bowjob they are posting the wrong totals on my account [23:59]
Bowjob http://blockchain.info/address/152mAXabBVjB58bASMzZEJzPPU84gEgjZR [23:59]
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