Forum logs for 03 Jan 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu http://hackingdistributed.com/2014/12/17/changetip-must-die/ << o look, the world outside is starting to figure out reddit is made by the retarded, for the retarded, and everything it touches smells ? [00:00]
assbot ChangeTip Must Die ... ( http://bit.ly/1xoqw7W ) [00:00]
mircea_popescu iiiincredible. [00:00]
thestringpuller yea it's a good article [00:04]
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decimation lol ascii are you logging in from the arctic [00:22]
ascii_modem nah just from not home. [00:24]
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ascii_modem turned this thing on just to put to record the vomitory power of the 'changetip' piece [00:25]
mircea_popescu aha ? [00:26]
ascii_modem subject & critique both [00:26]
ascii_modem 'brigaded a nobel laureate' ahaha [00:26]
mircea_popescu "First of all, every time I strike up a random conversation with a stranger, I discover that they have already heard about Bitcoin. Every. Single. Time." [00:27]
mircea_popescu this is my experience too. then again, it has been, for a while. [00:27]
ascii_modem 'academics fixed flaws in protocol' [00:27]
decimation yeah I find that to mostly be the case, except all the know is that mt gox got hacked [00:27]
mircea_popescu "We need to work as a community to buy advertising like normal people, and perhaps work on our collective image." [00:27]
mircea_popescu lmao. [00:27]
mircea_popescu who is this idiot. [00:27]
mircea_popescu decimation this is also true, but adding a "they donate grains of sand" isn't much of an addition. [00:27]
decimation no that's fucktarded [00:28]
mircea_popescu After years of acting like enfants terribles, perpetrating a prosecution complex, fearmongering about an inflationary collapse that refuses to happen, veering into antisemitic rants about Jewish bankers, blaming Mt. Gox victims, brigading a Nobel laureate, badmouthing core developers, attacking researchers including yours truly (for finding and even fixing a flaw, and making predictions that were later borne out; you k [00:28]
mircea_popescu now, things that were actually good for Bitcoin), [00:28]
mircea_popescu again, who is this derp ? [00:28]
decimation bitcoin is for entities to move money, not for the little people to pay hobos [00:28]
mircea_popescu somehow when i say "Gün Sirer" no "flaw that was fixed" pops intoi memory. [00:28]
mircea_popescu lol and of course disqus comments. [00:29]
mircea_popescu anyway. "clean up the act" = no more tim sweneys and other gun sirers, plox. [00:29]
ascii_modem meat - is for flies, by god. ask any fly [00:29]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile, intel has the "flaw" in question. from the selfsource : http://hackingdistributed.com/2013/11/04/bitcoin-is-broken/ [00:30]
assbot Bitcoin Is Broken ... ( http://bit.ly/1tHPuzJ ) [00:30]
mircea_popescu "Bitcoin is broken. And not just superficially so, but fundamentally, at the core protocol level. We're not talking about a simple buffer overflow here, or even a badly designed API that can be easily patched; instead, the problem is intrinsic to the entire way Bitcoin works. All other cryptocurrencies and schemes based on the same Bitcoin idea, including Litecoin, Namecoin, and any of the other few dozen Bitcoin-inspi [00:30]
mircea_popescu red currencies, are broken as well." [00:30]
decimation "Some people seem to believe that microtipping can bring about the end of advertising. This doesn't quite make sense, because microtip systems like ChangeTip cut out the platform operator: a user directly transfers a tiny amount to another user, leaving out the platform (e.g. Reddit, Twitter, etc)." [00:31]
decimation lol [00:31]
mircea_popescu basically, they dressed up the ancient block withholding attack, a fully documented andf fully fixed problem cca 2012 [00:31]
ascii_modem if i had a satoshi for every academtard who went 'this thing diesn't implement lamport's byzantine consensus...' [00:32]
mircea_popescu typical us-style academic, dress up something commonly known in the trade for a grant, act as if he's done science. [00:32]
ascii_modem naggum's 'library of cheap books' [00:32]
decimation oh no, imagine a world where twitter and reddit were cut out of business! inconceivable!! [00:33]
mircea_popescu advertising is a dead thing anyway. the cattle processors don't need to advertise to the cattle, the rest of the world doesn't want the cattle. [00:34]
decimation yeah. the future is content for the minority willing to pay; porn for the masses [00:34]
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mircea_popescu isuppose either of these could be rechristened "advertising" [00:35]
mircea_popescu but in point of fact it'd have as much truck with that concept as the present day us has with a constitutional republic. [00:35]
kakobrekla ;;seen ukyo [00:36]
gribble ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 39 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 37 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: mgio_: ping [00:36]
kakobrekla ;;seen ukto [00:36]
gribble ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 6 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: I dont want to work on anything other than weexchange heh [00:36]
mircea_popescu wait, asciilifeform wasn't even on a cloaked connection ? what, the haxxor gave up and went away ? [00:36]
mircea_popescu fucking unreliable haters. [00:36]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-12-2014#957549 [00:37]
assbot Logged on 19-12-2014 19:38:15; kakobrekla: btw ddos is gone (temporarily?) [00:37]
mircea_popescu aha. [00:37]
mircea_popescu in memory of that great joke, [00:37]
mircea_popescu !s beer cunt [00:37]
assbot 1 results for 'beer cunt' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=beer+cunt [00:37]
mircea_popescu "16-11-2014 bitbethelp: so, cazalla, what's your plan on running qntra when it's going to be down 7x24 if it gets any sort of traction?" [00:38]
mircea_popescu then guy's never heard from again. because yes, totally. that's what permanence means, two weeks' worth of three hourlong intervals. [00:38]
undata I've been uncloaked thanks to freenode derpitude several times, never ddosed [00:39]
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decimation hey, he exposed your fucktarded routing for free! [00:40]
mircea_popescu Bloke sitting at the bar when a woman comes in and sits on the stool next to him, he buys her a drink and asks her name. "Carmen" she says "Because I like Cars and Men, whats your name?" "Charlie Beer-Cunt" [00:40]
decimation heh [00:41]
decimation actually your servers became stronger when faced with adversity from the spammer [00:42]
decimation thus, some degree of anti-fragility. but it wasn't in the software, or the networking - it was in the people running things [00:42]
mircea_popescu well for one thing it bestowed upon me a huge list of wordpress blogs which can be used to leverage a packet stream about 1mn x and automattic does not want to fix. [00:43]
mircea_popescu for another thing it gave me an elephant rifle to shoot at some dreamhost employe derp [00:43]
mircea_popescu and in general... lemons an' melons. [00:44]
decimation yeah exactly. it was an interesting thing to watch unfold [00:45]
cazalla lulz https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2r58kd/what_happened_to_this_subforum_all_posts_about/cnco6u3 [00:45]
assbot theymos comments on What happened to this subforum? All posts about some shitty altcoin? Moderators on strike? WTF? ... ( http://bit.ly/1zJp6BW ) [00:45]
mircea_popescu imagine this, by the way : after three months of the practical equivalent of going to people's houses and leaving them a post-it note, the fix rate is under 1%. [00:45]
mircea_popescu well under 1%. [00:45]
mircea_popescu i think the derps who imagine their publishing of threat advisories and so forth actually does anything are off their rocker. [00:45]
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decimation it's worse then that - that n00b escalated to the designer of wordpress and was shot down [00:46]
mircea_popescu the entire "security holes are in there deliberately" dirty secret is getting more and more air. [00:46]
mircea_popescu thanks the bitcoin. [00:46]
decimation I suspect he didn't want to bother writing the code required to intelligently filter pingbacks [00:46]
mircea_popescu nope. [00:46]
decimation why not let the little people suffer when you can rake in the $$$ and push the costs onto others [00:47]
mircea_popescu i suspect they literally are under orders to maintain a certain structure on the webs. one where the middle class so to speak can at any time be ganked by "nefarious", "mysterious" entitites that are not either. [00:47]
mircea_popescu basically the usg is trying (through its "vc" agency) to run the web exactly the way it's running the country : use the poor to scare the productive. [00:48]
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mircea_popescu and it'd work just fine, too, if it weren't for btc. this construction where someone could be a secure billionaire and not part of the usg club simply wasn't being planned for. [00:49]
decimation no, that's pretty much the glue that holds usg together (quashing folks before they pose a threat) [00:50]
mircea_popescu it's all such retarded virginal bullshit, too. why shouldn't folks pose a fucking threat! [00:50]
mircea_popescu "o noes, what could happen". sigh. [00:50]
decimation this guy http://www.reppep.com/~pepper/resume/ wrote another paul graham rebuttal >> https://medium.com/@reppep/paul-graham-appears-confused-about-supply-and-demand-labor-and-visas-and-great-programmers-d1d4854bc928 [00:52]
assbot Chris Pepper's Resume ... ( http://bit.ly/1zJpiRH ) [00:52]
assbot Paul Graham Appears Confused about Supply and Demand, Labor and Visas, and “Great Programmers” — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1zJpiRN ) [00:52]
mircea_popescu cliffnotes ? [00:52]
mircea_popescu "In particular, if IRET executes on a writeable kernel stack (this was always the case before 3.16 and is sometimes the case on 3.16 and newer), the assembly function general_protection will execute with the user's gsbase and the kernel's gsbase swapped." [00:53]
mircea_popescu bwahahaha o god. [00:53]
decimation "But be honest. H-1B visa demand is not high because companies are striving for excellence. The visas are being used to preserve the existing labor market (salary levels) rather than paying higher salaries as dictated by supply and demand. Paul’s suggestion would help US companies find employees, but drain brainpower from the rest of the world, and leave the US workforce uncompetitive for US jobs. " [00:55]
mircea_popescu ... [00:55]
[]bot Bet created: "BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1092/ [00:56]
mircea_popescu so the author is struggling with brain damage. [00:56]
decimation which is pretty much what ascii was saying (paul graham wants cheap coolies) [00:56]
mircea_popescu how is that not striving for excellence ? [00:56]
mircea_popescu i mean, yes, it's what stan & everyone sane's been saying about it, but dressed up in a clown costume for some reason. [00:56]
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[]bot Bet created: "Bitcoin main net block size to increase in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1093/ [00:57]
mircea_popescu "The Centralized Zone Data System (czds.icann.org) [00:57]
mircea_popescu The attacker obtained administrative access to all files in the CZDS. This included copies of the zone files in the system, as well as information entered by users such as name, postal address, email address, fax and telephone numbers, username, and password. Although the passwords were stored as salted cryptographic hashes, we have deactivated all CZDS passwords as a precaution. " [00:57]
mircea_popescu im taking bets the thing was md5. [00:57]
gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu: what makes you thik he'd be in a position to write it ? guy never left australia. << He (or another) can supply the aforementioned article without getting up from their chair all that often. I'm just looking for some basic/tedious research - not boots on the ground scouting (though I am not opposed to this). [00:57]
mircea_popescu "For additional information about the attack, please monitor the ICANN website." "we're still not using gpg tho, so you'll never know." [00:58]
decimation well, they have an unsigned webpage [00:58]
decimation like the toilet stall in the truck stop [00:58]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel i get it i get it, my point was more along the lines of, nobody can really do this for you, as a "consumer" sort of thing. [00:58]
mircea_popescu it';s not really a pret-a-porter sort of job. [00:59]
mircea_popescu decimation point being, if we monitor "the site" and something appears there, all we know is that either the attacker put it up or icann did, and it's either true or false. [00:59]
mircea_popescu which... i'd rather monitor definite things. [00:59]
adlai now we're fucking talking http://bitbet.us/bet/1093/ [00:59]
assbot BitBet - Bitcoin main net block size to increase in 2015 :: 0 B (50%) on Yes, 0 B (50%) on No | closing in 10 months 2 weeks | weight: 100`000 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1zJpxMJ ) [00:59]
mircea_popescu heh that's not happening. [01:00]
adlai easy money if you fall over sue the government? [01:00]
mircea_popescu wait wut ? [01:00]
decimation while asciilifeform reinvents data transport, he ought to consider reinventing dns [01:00]
mircea_popescu dns needs to go die in a fire. [01:00]
mircea_popescu if anyone wants prettified shorthand for resource locators, let him write his own symlinks. [01:01]
* adlai was pretty pleased about the changetip bitbet [01:01]
gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu: programmers who depend on some sort of regionalized unemployment rate can't possibly be all that skilled. << this is true, however if an economy thinks itself of being in dire need of programmers anyone with a brain can fly blind into the country and remain relatively assured of their future prosperity without having to put too much thought into it. This is going to go away at some point in the futur [01:01]
gabriel_laddel e, but for now... [01:01]
mircea_popescu if all the idiotic websites could not in fact control their own domain name, imagine all the chilling effect on the idiocy of "branding" and generally the stupid internet. [01:01]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel my point was more along the lines of, unless you actually work in hardware maintenance, you are connecting to your job over the internet anyway. [01:02]
adlai all the internet branding will rely on middlemen, until your audience learns pgp [01:02]
mircea_popescu if you're hired for chair warming rather than sshing you are really not much better than the pr chicks. [01:02]
gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu: also, thanks for upping me. my keys got destroyed in a botched backup and I don't know if I'll be able to recover them. until I sink some time into that task - no L2. [01:03]
mircea_popescu o.O [01:03]
[]bot Bet created: "JPY to top 140 per USD in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1094/ [01:03]
mircea_popescu im sending sexy_saffron over to your house to whip you. [01:03]
decimation no she's too busy whining about b-a on tard's news [01:04]
gabriel_laddel r.e., chair warming, there is such a thing as interpersonal chemistry. [01:04]
mircea_popescu decimation nah it was proven that wasn't her. [01:04]
gabriel_laddel sometimes it's nice to interface with people - mostly - no. [01:04]
mircea_popescu your hunch was correct. [01:04]
decimation yeah I'm being silly, hopefully mr. spam learned his lesson [01:05]
mircea_popescu undata: what is this doublespeak where they 'stand by their filmmakers' while scrapping the film? << business as usual ? [01:05]
undata yep, and they caved yet again to 'bama and released the thing [01:06]
undata the film's probably garbage either way [01:06]
decimation yeah in retrospect the whole sony thing was a crass marketing ploy with usg cooperation [01:06]
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undata how does a language retain its meaning? [01:08]
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gabriel_laddel again, r.e., chair warming. Maybe I'm the odd one out here, but I've had the distinct pleasure of interacting with people who I enjoy seeing on somewhat regular basis. [01:09]
undata I wonder too if the degradation of the language isn't a major factor in the decline of a civilization. [01:10]
BingoBoingo the film's probably garbage either way << Actually not bad. It's a typical Seth Rogen movie. People who like that sort of flick will enjoy it, other people won't. [01:11]
decimation Thomas Cole painted the decline of empire > http://www.isegoria.net/2015/01/the-course-of-empire-2/ [01:11]
assbot The Course of Empire « Isegoria ... ( http://bit.ly/1zJpRe8 ) [01:11]
gabriel_laddel gabriel_laddel i get it i get it, my point was more along the lines of, nobody can really do this for you, as a "consumer" sort of thing. << So you do all your research by hand? Also, do you have a rotating 3D globe on your computer that allows you to highlight/heatmap known uranium deposits, nuclear reactors, oil reserves, population stats etc.? [01:11]
mircea_popescu undata yeah i imagine it is. [01:12]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel but that is a wholy distinct matter from working and job discussions. [01:13]
gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu: please elaborate? [01:13]
mircea_popescu ok, let me summarize this so perhaps you see it for the transactional (psych term of art) pseudoreasoning i see there. [01:14]
mircea_popescu you establish that A is desirable. you then deny A on the grounds that B, which is unrelated. [01:14]
mircea_popescu when B is pointed out to be unrelated, you bring in the discussion C, which is not only unrelated to B, but also to A. [01:14]
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mircea_popescu on the structure of that, should C be pointed out to be unrelated the subject'd normally become aggressive. [01:17]
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gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu: A = programmer unemployment rate, B = you do all your research by hand?, C = 3D earth populated with interesting information? [01:18]
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mircea_popescu nah. A = living in the us ; B = being employed at computerizing ; C = meeting people who fuck enjoyably. [01:19]
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mircea_popescu or whatever your definition of "enjoy personal interaction is", i suppose the discussion as to how all that = fucking is too much to meld in here. [01:19]
ascii_modem lol programmer unwhateverthefuck rates [01:19]
gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu: thanks for explaining. This aside I must admit I'm interested in knowing if you've got the 3D earth populated with all sorts of interesting information. [01:22]
mircea_popescu sort-of [01:22]
decimation who doesn't derp with google earth? [01:23]
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mircea_popescu actually i don't use it. [01:23]
mircea_popescu (why would i give google info ?! not like they're pickig up my intel bills ?!) [01:24]
gabriel_laddel decimation: you can't mod google earth, can you? [01:24]
decimation sort-of [01:24]
decimation you can load custom kml files to plot various things [01:24]
decimation they charge a shitload of $$$ to actually use their 'pro' tools [01:24]
ascii_modem from g.earth i learned the one solitary fact that the yard i played in as a boy is now a parking lot. boo/hiss. [01:25]
decimation I think 'high-end gis' types typically use arcgis tools [01:25]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem this seems altogether a common experience. [01:25]
decimation I think NASA even made a google-earth knockoff called "world wind" that you can use 'off-line' [01:26]
mircea_popescu whenever girlie takes me on a virtual trip of her childhood space, it's usually "o shit, a parking lot ?!" [01:26]
decimation cars gotta park, need garages, free highways [01:26]
ascii_modem it parks six rattling toyotas , too. when i was there i would have sworn it would land a bomber. [01:26]
mircea_popescu ^ [01:27]
decimation the median us resident without a car is pretty much just a hobo [01:27]
mircea_popescu it's not like the us can actually compare with i dunno, the russians on car pools. [01:27]
ascii_modem was small. world - big [01:27]
mircea_popescu they generally drive cheap crap. [01:27]
gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu: do you depend on opengl, use 2d, directx, proprietary graphics library written in assembler...? [01:28]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel i am fortunate to not be much of a visual thinker. [01:28]
mircea_popescu i use stuff like grep. [01:28]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/theymos-claims-josh-garza-is-sending-him-legal-threats-to-have-content-removed/ [01:29]
decimation tables & text > graphics [01:29]
gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu: I'm not a visual thinker either - at least, never have been described as such. That said, GUIS are nice in certain circumstances. [01:29]
mircea_popescu decimation not sure if really >, because i used to be total shit in geometry, all the chicks doing pretty much an impersonation of elaine with the tyres "saw" things that took me days. nevertheless, it DOES do a lot for reducing one's ability to... be scammed, i guess. slef scamming especially, where you end up making unfounded assumptions that arew predicated on whatever weird visual crap going on. [01:30]
ascii_modem tyres? [01:31]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel sure, but the gui of "google earth" is a needles contrivance. [01:31]
mircea_popescu lemme find it. [01:31]
mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgOdMSIAH1Q [01:31]
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decimation I often find myself distracted by 'pretty graphics' rather than looking at the content [01:31]
ascii_modem don't confound 'graphics' with 'mouse gui' [01:32]
ascii_modem not automagically same [01:32]
decimation no, I'm writing about a presentation meant to communicate [01:32]
decimation there's a thing in academia/business where graphics (esp. on a powerpoint) are held as some kind of standard for communication [01:34]
decimation ed tufte made the point that baseball scores are a giant dense table, and are comprehensible by someone with a 4th grade education [01:34]
mircea_popescu so you know, put it on google maps, so you can drink the presumption that the us is a lot larger than canada while doing whatever else. [01:34]
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ascii_modem visual scams << carnival / conjurer trickery ? [01:37]
mircea_popescu (and since we're doing this ; russia's almost larger than the sum of them. and this is without the rest of the "all-union" landmass) [01:37]
mike_c latitude is important though [01:38]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem just the very simple fact that if i say "a man" then that's that, whereas if you try to show "a man" you won't be able to. which is how most films are shittier than the books they're based on. the forced mistake of having to provide all the data visual requires to work. [01:38]
mircea_popescu mike_c for technologiclaly inferior tribes, yes, it is. [01:38]
mike_c hehe [01:38]
ascii_modem if big fat landmass could uproot, get up, walk over & sit on small landmass's face till its guts pop out - sure [01:38]
mircea_popescu in this sense, "having holly nearby" is important too [01:38]
ascii_modem but generally not how works [01:39]
mircea_popescu if you're a roman veteran about to get dismissed [01:39]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem except no "embargo" by the small against the large ever worked in fucking history. [01:39]
ascii_modem when 'large' is an abo reservation that can't even refine own molybdenum - works [01:40]
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mircea_popescu this theory is always intellectually appealing, like the theory that you can get rich by cornering the market. [01:41]
mircea_popescu people occasionally get cocky enough to try. it never works out. the reasons it never works out aren't directly palatable, so the dream remains. [01:42]
gabriel_laddel ascii_modem: do you have any favorite organic chem programs or books you'd care to recommend? [01:42]
ascii_modem gabriel_laddel: for what? [01:42]
mircea_popescu Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: tx fees != non-spam << o.O [01:42]
mircea_popescu dude how long did the luke wankfest carry on ? by now it's like one of those fabled 3 day weddings. [01:44]
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BingoBoingo Well, it took... about 3 days [01:45]
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ascii_modem gabriel_laddel: try chemgroup's 'MOE' [01:45]
gabriel_laddel ascii_modem: thanks. a concise phrasing for my project still hasn't come to mind.... [01:46]
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ascii_modem ty [01:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: who has 60 hour battery now ? << do a battery time / mips or flops thing to for fairness. [01:53]
ascii_modem wins still [01:54]
ascii_modem if this is re: old thread about hp lx - it had passive matrix unlit lcd [01:55]
mircea_popescu some reddit threrad you made me read. [01:55]
ascii_modem and nothing today - save wristwatch - has. [01:55]
decimation some calculators maybe [01:55]
mircea_popescu the lit lcd bs is absolutely insane. i use brighness at 1-2% on all these lcd things. [01:56]
mircea_popescu it'd be so much more helpful if they simply didn't backlight them with evil fucking uv diodes [01:56]
ascii_modem unlit != modern with light off [01:56]
ascii_modem need reflective backing . and must be monochrome [01:56]
decimation I recently found f.lux for macs and redshift for linux [01:57]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem doesn't have to be ancient tech! [01:57]
ascii_modem colour lcd absorbs far too much light to be reflectively lightable. [01:57]
decimation they both allow you to 'redshift' your screen to match the local night-time [01:57]
mircea_popescu but no, they can't light them on orange or something. gotta be that god awful pseudo-white [01:57]
decimation unfortunately they don't dim brightness [01:57]
ascii_modem also all extant dimmable backlights use pwm [01:58]
ascii_modem and i can see the chop. [01:58]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: Obligatory slogan: "Come and get Tanked!" << better yet, "tank top off tuesday" [01:58]
decimation ascii_modem: even LED backlights? [01:58]
ascii_modem esp those [01:58]
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mircea_popescu where chicks come with their tank tops to sit atop your tank's top and take their tops off [01:59]
undata ascii_modem: I spent a bit of time today researching e-ink displays [01:59]
undata not much to find [01:59]
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ascii_modem worthless for interactive anything [01:59]
undata the vaguely defined dream would be to have something which functions as a terminal, nothing more [01:59]
undata I'm trying to code on a shit-tier lenovo "x1 carbon" [02:00]
ascii_modem even vt100 is a stretch for eink [02:00]
undata everything's broken [02:00]
undata trackpad stopped working, goes to sleep, fails to wake without disconnecting the battery, etc [02:01]
ascii_modem classic laptoppery [02:01]
decimation lenovo is supposedly better for that stuff [02:01]
undata neh, it's a lie [02:01]
ascii_modem was [02:01]
undata I believed "thinkpad" [02:01]
undata I had a pentium 3 thinkpad that was a tank compared [02:02]
ascii_modem also had. yes, worked. [02:03]
ascii_modem those days - long gone. [02:03]
decimation re: tank's top < " That was Stalin's hall-mark, his style - that splendid disregard of differences, that levelling of friends and enemies that made him a unique figure in the whole of human history. Another thing for which the Soviet court did not condemn Potapov was that in 1945 - still in his broken spectacles tied with string but this time with a tommy-gun in his hand - he rode into Berlin on the back of a Red Army tank; this was [02:04]
decimation how Potapov got off so easily, with only 'ten and five on the horns'." [02:04]
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ascii_modem battery time / mips or flops << imagine if the only fuel available, were - trotyl. [02:18]
ascii_modem that's roughly the situation of modern cpu [02:18]
decimation ascii_modem: as in, it draws massive current for short bursts and derps idlely otherwise? [02:19]
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ascii_modem can't buy low-power (battery life measured in weeks/months) interactive computer. at any pricepoint. [02:22]
decimation one can buy very low power microcontrollers these days [02:23]
ascii_modem because 'no www flash games - not computer' or similarly imbecilic formula [02:23]
mircea_popescu that;s actually a legitimate complaint. [02:23]
mircea_popescu democracy = one solution that sucks for everyone. [02:24]
ascii_modem microcontroller << the pickings end up very slim if refuse 'arm' [02:25]
ascii_modem ( for ram-rich / something one could use as actual computer kind of affair) [02:26]
decimation I think TI still makes stuff like the msp430 [02:27]
ascii_modem not computer. [02:27]
decimation indeed. [02:27]
mircea_popescu jurov: ;;later tell mircea_popescu x.idiff.dec expired < myeah. [02:28]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: really 0 volume on idiff for DEC?!?!? << myeah. [02:29]
mircea_popescu anyway, there's gonna be an announcement re x.idiff [02:30]
mircea_popescu jurov: lmao it says there was 1 x.idiff.dec traded on 2012-12-13 and nothing since << sounds about right. [02:30]
mircea_popescu assbot: Will Ripple Eclipse Bitcoin? - Slashdot ... << "Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no." [02:31]
decimation re: democracy << "Now I know of only two methods of establishing equality in the political world; every citizen must be put in possession of his rights, or rights must be granted to no one." - M. de Tocqueville [02:33]
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mircea_popescu equality is not something of this, or any other world. [02:33]
mircea_popescu jurov: nothing about fags? danielpbarron: that's condemned <<< poor j, just can't catch a break. [02:34]
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mircea_popescu everything's being retroactively uncondemned, 'cept his. [02:34]
mircea_popescu jurov: you want to say homosexuality is okay if it's master/slave relationship? << win. get into leather while you still can! [02:35]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: so for a time, God did permit a man to have more than one wife. (see, for eg. Genesis 4:19; 16:1-4; 29:18-30:24) - but God did not originate the practice of polygamy. He provided only one wife for Adam. <<< bs. the original family was adam eve an' lilith. [02:36]
mircea_popescu 'cept the perky titted little bitch started feminism and was banished to fatlandia. [02:36]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: I have a ton of cool photos from that adventure << you need to start blogging in serious. [02:38]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2014#956498 << actually sounds pretty good. [02:41]
assbot Logged on 18-12-2014 22:10:34; mod6: But yeah, it's still has some leaks in there somewhere, as the R.I. died at least 2 different times from 1->current block, but no more than 3 times. Eitherway, this needs to get resolved. But at least we're headed in the right direction. [02:41]
mircea_popescu so what config did you settle on in the end mod6 ? [02:41]
mod6 for the DB? [02:41]
mircea_popescu ya [02:41]
ascii_modem speaking of - iirc it was gonna be configable chkpoints , not none at all ? [02:42]
mircea_popescu for dbenv.set_lk_max_locks and what else ? [02:42]
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mircea_popescu ascii_modem i just assumed he implemented the "no checkpoints" in the shape of a "set your own, defaults to 1" sort of thing [02:42]
ascii_modem bdb begs for the axe [02:43]
ascii_modem neh he snipped whole thing [02:43]
mircea_popescu ah [02:43]
mircea_popescu well... [02:43]
mircea_popescu there's technically no possibility to have "no checkpoints", block 1 will willy-nilly be a checkpoint. [02:43]
mod6 changed dbenv.set_lk_max_objects to 40000 [02:44]
mod6 changed dbenv.set_lk_max_locks to 40000 [02:44]
mod6 set set_lg_max to 1M [02:45]
mircea_popescu im surprised it worked with 40k. [02:45]
mod6 set DB_TXN_WRITE_NOSYNC [02:45]
ascii_modem in my tests, bled out 100% of the time during sync [02:45]
mod6 and DB_LOG_AUTO_REMOVE [02:45]
mircea_popescu hmm [02:46]
mod6 at first, I just set max locks to 40000, and nothing else, but ended up with liek 265Gb of BDB Tx logs [02:46]
ascii_modem whole thing leaks like sieve [02:46]
mod6 then after working on different things for a while, and looking at what is currently set in HEAD, went on to trim that shit out [02:47]
mircea_popescu Adlai: so paycoin has progressed from vaporware to real, nitrogen-rich altcoincrap? << no, but some derp who feels rich on the cash value a car monthy payment somehow figured he has something to say. [02:47]
mod6 so now it keeps the BDB TX logs down to < 1Mb each, and I've never seen more than 60 of them in the ~/.bitcoin/database/ dir before being flushed out [02:48]
mod6 <+ascii_modem> neh he snipped whole thing << yeah. [02:48]
mod6 gone. [02:48]
ascii_modem ballast gone; how will lighten balloon now! [02:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: 'amplification' idiocy is trivially tested for, and any isp which doesn't yank the offending lusers ought by all rights to be killed upstream << pretty much this, yes. [02:49]
mod6 <+ascii_modem> speaking of - iirc it was gonna be configable chkpoints , not none at all ? << i guess i wasn't aware of the 'configurable' part, just was going by the todo list: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/0.5.3-todos [02:50]
assbot 0.5.3-todos [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1I6TYAO ) [02:50]
mircea_popescu mod6 i've been thinking about it, not entirely sure it actually belongs in the core. [02:50]
ascii_modem more important is configable p2p seeds [02:50]
mircea_popescu sounds more like a trim, for the toolbox [02:50]
mircea_popescu yes, that. [02:50]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla: i think the least damaging way is to kick nicks that are idle sing sing-on. asciilifeform: wanna idle for >5 min, get in wot. << yeah. i can see this, especially as people who wish to simply read logs can just as well read the webpage. [02:51]
mod6 ok, i haven't looked into the part yet where it has been somehow spotted that the blocks seems to get pulled from one peer, instead of many. if p2p seeds refers to a way to get blocks in more of a torrent fashion, i agree. [02:52]
mircea_popescu lowers load on freenode, and if they're actually concerned there's whatever skullduggery going on they can just get into teh wot. [02:52]
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mircea_popescu nevertheless, it won't do anything for the case at hand, because well... dude can just get in the wot, what's the big deal. [02:52]
mod6 (bullet point 4): fix behavior where blocks are downloaded from a single peer (what is the desired behavior here? - should be pretty much ripped off from SotA torrent trackers.) [02:53]
mircea_popescu ayup [02:53]
mod6 ok. just wanted to make sure I understood :) [02:53]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: hm. how about 1 min auto voice on join for unseen nicks? << horribru [02:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: registered << same easy spamatron << moar horribru, now you're giving positive incentive to create unused accounts. [02:55]
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mod6 currently, the plan is to attempt to fix the leak that causes the R.I. to crash during full block sync. but we might end up rolling forward to version .7 and having to re-implement the 7 patches we currently have. [02:55]
mod6 I'm not sure there is any easy way to back-port the raw tx api [02:56]
mod6 thoughts? [02:56]
PeterL ;;later tell pete_dushenski hmm, your blog is on scoopbot's list, I am not sure why it is not shoing up, I will look into it [02:56]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:56]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: honestly im not sure whats worse, autoddos or autoban. << i really don't see much incentive to do anything at this point. i mean, the ddos guy was moreover useful, for as long as he kept iot up. i didn't think he's reliable, and he proved that much,so.. whatevs. [02:56]
mircea_popescu the disposing of drooling idiots is an unrelated matter, and if pursued at all should not be pursued in the heat of fake emergencies. [02:57]
mircea_popescu mod6 why exactly wouldn't be there be an easy way to simply insert raw txn ? [02:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: the observation that, on account of the log existing, we don't need human idlers for anything at all, was correct << at the very least they provide a passive certification of the log. [02:59]
mod6 well, that maybe have been a poor choice of words. [02:59]
mod6 when trying to back port something i thought would be as simple as import/dump private keys, it turned out that the changes were indeed far reaching in the code. [02:59]
mircea_popescu moreover, if there's a central repository of the log that's also an exclusive repository of the log, the incentive for nefarious idiots a la ninjashogun to attack it via social engineering increases [02:59]
mircea_popescu and since the fiat world mostl yexists as a staging scene for various social engineering attacks, from preet bharara onwards, this isn't a good design. [03:00]
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mod6 spent, probably a total of 16 hours on it. didn't get very far. and seeing as though the raw transactions api is 4 versions beyond (or something) v0.6.0, it might be very hard to do it that way. [03:01]
mircea_popescu mod6 at some point the code transforms an user indicated tx into an actual tx. [03:01]
mircea_popescu this must be hookable into, logically. [03:01]
mod6 if nothing else, might just be a lot of work. perhaps do-able, just not a quick/easy way. [03:01]
mircea_popescu im missing something here. [03:01]
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mod6 probably not. i was just hoping to grab that stuff, and get it back-ported quickly. [03:02]
mod6 i might just be dumb though. eheheh. [03:02]
mircea_popescu honestly i don't even know that the raw transaction power ranger implementation was ever read by anyone. [03:02]
mircea_popescu or for that matter at all tested. [03:02]
mod6 it may not be. i had a feeling that it is widely used for some reason. [03:03]
mircea_popescu decimation: freenode seems to attract folks like mr. spam << has 0 to do with freenode. everything sweet attracts gnats. [03:03]
mircea_popescu mod6 it is somewhat used. not that widely. then again, linuxkernel is widely used. so what of it. [03:04]
mod6 fair enough. perhaps this is not quite the urgent matter that I thought it might have been. [03:04]
mod6 i'll stay the course on v0.5.3 and what we set out to do in january. will revisit this later in the month as was the plan anyway. [03:05]
mod6 of course, as always, we welcome any help that anyone wants to give to achieve these goals. [03:05]
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mircea_popescu ^ [03:06]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: i think the main issue is he wont be able to take credit. << omfg the slanders. [03:07]
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Apocalyptic or for that matter at all tested. // not sure there is something to be really tested [03:07]
mircea_popescu it's code innit ? [03:08]
Apocalyptic in the sense it doesn't really check anything wallet related or something, it's supposed to just parse your JSON and send it to nodes [03:08]
mircea_popescu right. [03:09]
mircea_popescu so ? [03:09]
Apocalyptic so you meant to test such trivial things as parsings ? [03:10]
mod6 yeah, but i just read too that if you don't set your change outputs, you'll end up sending like a huge tx fee. [03:10]
mod6 so, well, i dunno, i guess "works as designed" or something, but a least do the guy a favor of a reach-around [03:10]
mod6 let him know that he's about to send a 40 BTC tx fee. there are improvments that can be made perhaps [03:11]
mod6 :] [03:11]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic in theory there is no difference between theory and practice. [03:11]
mircea_popescu but anyway, the project does need more resources. if you feel like reading and submitting the thing, signed, jurov's keeping the list and erryone'd be moar than happy. [03:13]
Apocalyptic actually after reading the relevant code there is some logic related to the mempool, so it may be worth some tests indeed [03:17]
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mod6 feel free to hit either ben_vulpes or me anytime if you wanna collaborate on that. [03:19]
mod6 we appreciate any and all help on this endeavor [03:20]
Apocalyptic noted, I don't have that much free time at the moment [03:20]
mod6 no sweat. we're not quite at that point anyway. as I was eluding to in the Address & ToDo, I'll update #b-a at some point during the month after we get this other leak sorted. [03:21]
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mod6 if you still don't have any spare time, we'll figure out something. [03:22]
mod6 <+ascii_modem> bdb begs for the axe << yes. it's awful. [03:23]
Apocalyptic and probably not that qualified as well, i'm no programmer in any sense, much less a C++ guru [03:25]
mod6 aight no worries Apocalyptic :) [03:25]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: mike_c: sure. <<< tis melting like april snow, the case. [03:34]
mircea_popescu mike_c: the solution being, we lock them out. << "if we kill all the babies, we will in fact have reduced infant mortality to an unmatchable 0 in subsequent years" [03:36]
mircea_popescu mike_c: that sucks << there's a lot more depth to this point than meets the eye. us children are inept these days first and foremost because they have been removed from the workplace in the 50s and 60s, under the guise of "safety" and the general nonsense where "Everything must be separated" that also yielded zoning laws etc. [03:37]
mircea_popescu there's a lot of benefit for any 7yo in having a close friend that lost some appendages to heavy machinery. [03:38]
devthedev Garza is unreal [03:39]
mircea_popescu what now ? [03:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: (i'd love to hear a rationale for it) << people other than nanotube are keeping track of the various scammers trying to use gribble. [03:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: PeterL: you have to - yes. mr i-owned-fleanode nsa clerk - no. <<< yes, let him do this, love to see it. [03:43]
mircea_popescu security is not reducible to "build a really thick steel plate" [03:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: re: wot: (question to all present) - how often do you re-read your own wot history? << weekly. [03:44]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: even if you do, there is no guarantee that other readers see the same thing you see << yeah, there is. [03:44]
mircea_popescu nanotube: it is being worked on. but have a lot of other stuff on my plate. once everything is signed, there will not even be a need for something like "auth". <<< this is a good point. having identity implemented as a stateful thing is mindboggling anyway. stuff like cloaks and so on pale in comparison. [03:47]
mircea_popescu PeterL: so instead of just saying "eauth peterl", now we will say "eauth peterl "? << conceivably, you'd say something like .rate url exactly hjow notary bot [used to] work [03:48]
cazalla coinfire, bitcointalk, bitcoin forum all get garza legal threats.. qntra? nothing, anything pop up in your inbox mircea_popescu ? [03:51]
mircea_popescu cazalla i get between a few and a dozen poorly cobbled together "legal threats" each week. [03:51]
cazalla none of any interest then i take it [03:51]
mircea_popescu occasionally there's some sec "senior attorney" gofer. the vast majority is X dude who doesn't like the fact that trilema maintains a copy of whatever stupid evil shit he did a few years ago and figures "hey, a few years ago means it never happened" [03:52]
mircea_popescu nothing signed "garza" at any rate [03:52]
mircea_popescu there's like... 6 different ones from ninjashogun AFTER hanbot wrote that post. [03:53]
cazalla lol [03:53]
mircea_popescu there's 9 from various ceos and assorted derps [03:53]
mircea_popescu protesting that their name IS THEIR PROPERTAH [03:53]
mircea_popescu and some more assorted dumb shit. [03:53]
devthedev heh [03:53]
devthedev Why does there always seem to be a lack of intelligent discussion on here? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=912442.msg10019113#msg10019113 [03:54]
assbot [2014-01-02] QNTRA: Theymos Claims Josh Garza Is Sending Him Legal Threats... ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY8Kh8 ) [03:54]
mircea_popescu there's also 723 pieces of email thanking me or otherwise discussing the wordpress hole. since the 16th. [03:55]
mircea_popescu my inbox is a job for a team of mules. [03:55]
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mircea_popescu "asciilifeform: no actual human transmits $maxint whatevers from a single ip per second/hour/etc" except a) yes they do and b) 4kb should be enough for everyone. [04:06]
mircea_popescu decimation: although one wonders why mr. spam targets this channel instead of -otc << this is worth something. [04:07]
mircea_popescu same reason napoleon tried to invade moscow not magnitogorsk, same reason the barricades went up in paris not derpue-sur-herpoise [04:08]
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mircea_popescu decimation mats : the situation with freenode is that it's basically a sinking ship / abandoned tech. the few hanger ons do not actually have the werewithal to do anything other than push the levers, which they sort-of understand how to do, but various rooms are constantly being sealed off because "it's too much". it's indubitable that freenode will eventually sink, and it won't take it decades, for this very reason. [04:23]
mircea_popescu meanwhile, we're lazy. [04:23]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [04:25]
gribble Current Blocks: 337243 | Current Difficulty: 4.064095501657649E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 338687 | Next Difficulty In: 1444 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 18 hours, 2 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 45943174930.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.04649 [04:25]
mircea_popescu crybabi: but i won't be using bitbet again, charging a fee when you don't provide a service is no way to run a business << o.O [04:26]
mircea_popescu i suppose providing a service doesn't count as providing a service except in those cases where the beneficiary is happy with the outcome or something ? [04:27]
mircea_popescu i suppose if there wasn't an obamacare "you don't have to pay your own medical bills" the us consumer'd "have come to expect" that he only pays if the surgery/treatment is successful. [04:27]
mircea_popescu "hi, i had my tits done at your clinic two weeks ago but my husband left me for a younger woman anyway so i'd like a refund now because you didn't provide a service". [04:28]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: BitBet mixer is why I thought prop stakes were refunded minus fee << that's like advanced class. [04:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4857 @ 0.00084499 = 4.1041 BTC [+] [04:38]
mircea_popescu re : http://www.warplife.com/mdc/essays/business/self-employment.html [04:40]
assbot Self Employment: Even on a Good Day Things are Hard ... ( http://bit.ly/1zJFjXL ) [04:40]
mircea_popescu "They spent several months testing my code, comparing its performance with their old database, which was pretty primitive but known to be reliable." vs "If their application went down for even a day, it would cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars. This was a common occurrence, as their existing application was pretty buggy." [04:40]
mircea_popescu the guy's lying through his teeth, michael o church style ? [04:40]
mircea_popescu "This was a single Windows executable with well over a hundred man-years of blood, sweat and tears invested in it." idiot, srsly. [04:41]
mircea_popescu "10 reasons Preet Bharara should be the next attorney general" "Investment banks were most responsible for the devastating economic downturn, yet the costs of their opportunistic behavior were placed on the shoulders of everyday Americans, who lost jobs, retirement savings, and confidence in the market." [04:48]
mircea_popescu yep, the roland freiser thing is quite on point. fucking fatlogic, well done cnn. [04:48]
mircea_popescu they even have the unmitigated audacity to add that violation of the indian diplomat on his cv as if it were a positive. [04:50]
mircea_popescu iiincredible what pravda can print. [04:50]
mircea_popescu "The nation would be well-served to elevate Bharara from the "Sheriff of Wall Street" to chief federal law-enforcement officer." [04:50]
mircea_popescu ahem. [04:50]
mircea_popescu ahaha check out the coincidence of all time http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2014#957468 i ended up right in the middle of the dramaz ? [04:52]
assbot Logged on 19-12-2014 18:37:28; mircea_popescu: o.O check itout, new names ? [04:52]
mircea_popescu "Hey friends, reddit cryptocurrency engineer here. The post is deliberately vague about technology and legal. For one, we're holding back on committing to a particular technology just because the bitcoin world changes very fast, and we want to make sure we pick the right choice. However, almost certainly it will be either colored coins or sidechains." [04:58]
mircea_popescu lol reddit coin. mkay. [04:58]
mircea_popescu so basically doge v2.0, because the fucktards must have a "moon rocket". [04:58]
mircea_popescu im sure it'll work out so very differently from the first version, because yes, totally, people matter and their desires change reality. [04:59]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: mthreat, mircea_popescu: http://bubblear.com/bloody-hell-argentinas-import-restrictions-cause-tampon-shortage/ << corroboration? <<< utter nonsense. [05:00]
assbot Bloody Hell: Argentina's Import Restrictions Cause Tampon Shortage | The Bubble | News from Argentina ... ( http://bit.ly/1tHW4Go ) [05:00]
mircea_popescu "kakobrekla: On a good note, Judge Rakoff called me a brilliant visionary and that he admires my brainpower. #bitcoin" << shrem's retarded, basically. [05:02]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2014#957658 <<< in practice, this worked out to "the reporting facilitated FBI's lying about imaginary north korean hackers, and thoroughly embarassing themselves to a degree not seen since bush swore he personaly saw saddam's terrorism stash". [05:03]
assbot Logged on 20-12-2014 03:10:14; decimation: http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/update-on-sony-investigation << there is an air of desperation here: "Sony reported this incident within hours, which is what the FBI hopes all companies will do when facing a cyber attack. Sony’s quick reporting facilitated the investigators’ ability to do their jobs, and ultimately to identify the source of these attacks." [05:03]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform seriously, if this meta-nsa exists, how come the fbi is this impotent ? [05:04]
mircea_popescu i mean, seriously. what agency in the history of that business would ever, under any circumstances, make such a ridiculous blunder ? [05:04]
mircea_popescu that stuff happens once all the actual agents left, and the remaining bureaucrats understandably have no self respect or career spirit. [05:05]
mircea_popescu the fbi as it currently stands has not the werewithal to extract itself from a paper bag. and i mean that literally, if i kidnapped them all and dropped them in rural kansas they'd prolly never make it back to headquarters. [05:05]
mircea_popescu decimation: It's good that reporters apologize for asking questions, makes the situation clear for the little people <<< seriously, since when does the press EVEN GO to prepared statement and catering sort of affairs ? [05:07]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2014#957685 versus http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2014#487026 [05:08]
assbot Logged on 20-12-2014 03:34:37; decimation: http://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2014/12/opm-alerts-feds-second-background-check-breach/101622/ << "The Office of Personnel Management is alerting more than 48,000 federal employees their personal information may have been exposed following a breach at KeyPoint Government Solutions, which conducts background investigations of federal employees seeking security clearances." [05:08]
assbot Logged on 07-02-2014 15:23:38; mircea_popescu: next step : Bitcoin regulates the USG. [05:08]
mircea_popescu note it took them HALF A YEAR to figure out we actually do know where they live. [05:08]
mircea_popescu how secure can one feel, as a mid range us bureaucrat, given these revelations ? the usg can not protect you, yo. [05:09]
mircea_popescu not even today. [05:09]
mircea_popescu what will it do in 2025, when you will ostensibly still wish to eat ? to avoid daily beatings ? to not be fed, live, to specially prepared hungry pigs ? [05:09]
cazalla giant pigs straight from hannibal eh [05:19]
cazalla well, i always wanted to be a farmer! [05:19]
mircea_popescu lol [05:22]
mircea_popescu the "press" is so fuycking lulzy. check this out : [05:23]
mircea_popescu ;;google "GSHK heavy-machine guns" [05:23]
gribble It's not just the savagery of Isis that is shocking – its weaponry is too ...: ; DShK - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Category:Multi-barrel machine guns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (1 more message) [05:23]
mircea_popescu ;;google DSHK heavy-machine guns [05:23]
gribble DShK - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Shooting a DShK Heavy Machine Gun - YouTube: ; Modern Firearms - DShK / DShKM 12.7 heavy machine gun: [05:23]
mircea_popescu what, get the letters right ?! whai! [05:23]
mircea_popescu i guess it's going to now be called "gushka" [05:24]
mircea_popescu decimation: asciilifeform: I doubt there will be a 'day of reckoning' w.r.t. tor. it will just turn off and the derps will move on << pretty much exactly. [05:25]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: But this way they win the SEO [05:26]
mircea_popescu and all the agents involved, as well as the plethora of idiots, will just duly update their cv to reflect their certified expertise and act as if you know, they know shit. [05:26]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i guess they do at that. [05:26]
cazalla how fucking eerie is this.. open up trilema.com http://i.imgur.com/0pYGadA.png [05:26]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Deinni ) [05:26]
mircea_popescu cazalla it's emerging ai huh ? [05:27]
cazalla mircea_popescu, i can't discount the chance you served that up specifically to my ip, who knows eh [05:29]
mircea_popescu you can, cuz i didn't. [05:30]
mircea_popescu decimation: no word on whether microsoft is going to be held liable for ridiculously poor engineering < :))) [05:31]
mircea_popescu that'd be the lulz of all time tho, sony sueing microsoft for lost revenues etc. [05:31]
mircea_popescu i'd watch that, and that's the first entertainment sony ever made that i'd watch. [05:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: afaik every word of the history of the two koreas available in the english language, since the first days leading up to the war, is a cheap fabrication.<< in no way different from the same words available in juche language [05:33]
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gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 299.3, Best ask: 299.92, Bid-ask spread: 0.62000, Last trade: 299.92, 24 hour volume: 11393.86973249, 24 hour low: 297.0, 24 hour high: 316.83, 24 hour vwap: 306.511884368 [11:34]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [11:34]
gribble Current Blocks: 337290 | Current Difficulty: 4.064095501657649E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 338687 | Next Difficulty In: 1397 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 5 hours, 13 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 45855462688.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.83067 [11:34]
mircea_popescu decimation: asciilifeform: either from ore or paying the ransom required to get intel et. al. to completely open the design for a chipset <<< or else simply sony-ing it. [11:39]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2014#958078 << cultist. [11:41]
assbot Logged on 21-12-2014 11:41:37; jurov: bwahaha SYSTEMD IS ALWAYS RIGHT [11:41]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes "To some extent, yes. I spent almost a decade investing in early stage startups, and curiously enough protecting yourself against obsolete beliefs is exactly what you have to do to succeed as a startup investor." << yes, you miss the part where he never succeeded as a start-up investor. [11:43]
mircea_popescu he succeeded as an easy money usg moocher, which is i suppose something he justifies to himself as "being an expert in a later version of the world" [11:44]
mircea_popescu except the usg is not a version of the world, it's merely a version of graham & co's beliefs. [11:44]
mircea_popescu the problem with those being singularly that they diverge from the world. [11:44]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-december-2014-statement/ [11:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: 'Please could we stick to the technical aspects of this problem. Attempts to apportion responsibilty rarely lead anywhere.' << immediately shoot in the head anyone saying this. help make the world a better place. [11:47]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2014#958151 << lmao too good. "oh b-a is a cult because it points and laugh at us. what's this, something malfunctioning ? no no it's a feature. oh wait, devs actually admit it was a bug ? uhhh... we're just the us agitprop machine, wut." [11:49]
assbot Logged on 21-12-2014 18:02:01; asciilifeform: which, it turns out, the systemd pushers reflexively defended as a feature. [11:49]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: mats: Maybe MP should stay on vacation? ;/ [11:51]
mircea_popescu BUT I WORK REALLY HARD! [11:51]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2014#958222 << look at this, decimation said exactly what i said half a day earlier than me. [11:52]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2014 01:27:18; decimation: this guy (along with his brother) > http://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-newhouse/ [11:52]
mircea_popescu i honestly hadn't read it. great cults think alike! [11:53]
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thestringpuller happy birthday genesis block [11:56]
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mircea_popescu good point heh. [11:56]
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mircea_popescu mats: then shadowban 90% of posters <<< can only shadowban 10% of users. because percents, and "new version of the world" [11:57]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2014#958248 << gotta watch those old versions of the world, yo, lest sam altman gives you a "doesn't understand how the world works" black star. [11:58]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2014 02:21:10; decimation: some bum who camps next to the George Washington bridge also has 300,000 'views' per day - that doesn't transform him into a 'profitable business' [11:58]
thestringpuller lol, "bitcoin miami con. ference." [12:01]
mircea_popescu undata: mats: was there some more specific strategy with the brick than "fuck this wrist..." ? << i also think the guy had the right idea. "when confronted with bullshit, escalate." [12:02]
* adlai is so glad that he's not paying for his miami btc attendance [12:04]
kakobrekla you are going there?! [12:05]
adlai plans finalized weeks ago [12:05]
mats https://www.mail-archive.com/openssl-dev@openssl.org/msg37790.html [12:05]
assbot [openssl-dev] EC key generation in broken in all versions ... ( http://bit.ly/1A5YBvN ) [12:05]
mircea_popescu decimation: it would probably be okay for dictating an email or whatever << this mostly exposes the unfounded belief that coding is for men while emails is for women. in point of fact, adding an extra byte error in some derpy code is irrelevant. for one thing, it would not be the only one. for another thing, it's just code. meanwhile, i shudder at the thought of byte errors in my emails. [12:05]
mircea_popescu ahaha wut mats [12:06]
mats it looks bad [12:07]
mircea_popescu "Because OpenSSL gently handles leading zero bytes in a private key, I'm quite sure that a correction of the EC key encoding has no impact." [12:07]
mircea_popescu basically, leading 0s / bad padding. not so much of a practical issue [12:07]
adlai garzacoin shilling is getting quite intense, though. i've even met irl paycoin shills at a local meetup, and it's sad how clueless they are of their role in the larger scam (or sad how they can't get a decent stage acting gig, and have to do this shit instead) [12:07]
mircea_popescu but definitely not the only cockroach inthat room. [12:07]
mircea_popescu adlai why on that later part ? [12:07]
mircea_popescu unemployed actors have always been indistinguishable from bums. this for very good reason, without this mud on the pond bottom, no lotus. [12:08]
* mircea_popescu adds Annie Yousar to the list of women in tech he likes. [12:08]
thestringpuller "Why don't we just shoot nuclear waste of our atmosphere and into the Sun?" "Because it's stupid expensive and it's stupid dangerous if a rocket blows up on the launchpad. Please don't do this." [12:12]
mircea_popescu nah, it's actually the only sensible solution. [12:12]
mircea_popescu also where it's headed. the entire "o we hate this that and the other" verbiage peripheral to energy generation today is entirely born out of abundance. [12:13]
mircea_popescu once shit starts running out... [12:13]
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kakobrekla well sorry to hear that adlai :) [12:15]
mircea_popescu Preet Baharara is himself specifically concerned that the defense wants to bring up: [12:19]
mircea_popescu "views concerning the propriety of U.S. or international drug laws or the propriety of government regulation of individual conduct or commerce on the Internet" [12:19]
mircea_popescu heh. [12:19]
mircea_popescu and this shouldn't be a point of discussion in that trial because... they know they'll lose ? [12:19]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2014#958376 << check out the wary, restrained suspicious look of the italian guy in the back. testament to the insane pressure everyone's under, for literally no good reason. [12:21]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2014 06:04:16; fluffypony: incredible photo of a cop beating a black man in New York: http://i.imgur.com/H3NPEbi.jpg [12:21]
mircea_popescu "o but it was on tv" [12:21]
adlai actually looks like the cop is getting his ass handed to him [12:22]
mircea_popescu mhm. [12:23]
mircea_popescu cazalla "Qntra first began sounding the alarm in regards suspicious claims made by GAW Miners back in October of 2014 and despite these warnings, it has largely gone ignored until the past few days whereby it has exploded all over /r/bitcoin." dja mean qntra or gaw has been largely ignored ? [12:24]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2014#958408 << i agree, not a bad use of 402 [12:25]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2014 07:07:40; fluffypony: thestringpuller: what's lol about that? reasonable use of an unused HTTP code, and I don't think that there's anything wrong with the plugin they've developed [12:25]
mircea_popescu "I want to know how this scamming company are finding out the reservation numbers, the dates, the contact details, there's a lot of private information there," she said. [12:30]
mircea_popescu A spokesperson for Booking.com told Money Box the firm is working with police on how to prevent future phishing attacks. They declined to be interviewed. [12:30]
mircea_popescu heh. [12:30]
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mircea_popescu ;;seen austeritysucks [12:39]
gribble austeritysucks was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 17 hours, 6 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: ok have a good one cazalla you too [12:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: and the whole greenwald/poitras/etc shitgnome gang <<< very little has been made of this, but here'd be a great angle for investigative jouralism : [12:42]
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mircea_popescu all the asshole "lefties" for pay that helped the usg "react to" snowden have made money out of it. the old system where a "random hero" was selected to be held up as a fetish for the masses, "explaining" their poverty and justifying their pointless struggle is giving way, out of sheer exhaustion of resources, [12:43]
mircea_popescu to the typically corrupt latter soviet system where that hero is a hero of the union. [12:43]
mircea_popescu so, look into the bank accounts of all those invovled, see who's made a little bezzlebucks they had no perspective of making in 2005 [12:44]
mircea_popescu decimation: imagine if the billions poured into 'cybersecurity' were spent on constructing an actual secure terminal from first principles << there's a fundamental problem with soft, fiat, paper money, that it can't be used for arbitrary purposes, which is the very meaning of "soft" in their name. [12:48]
mircea_popescu there's that quip about how it's easy enough to get women to do what they want to do anyway, getting them to do what should actually be done is the headache. [12:49]
mircea_popescu this is exactly how soft money work : you can easily "spend" billions in scrip to get loafers to loaf around. [12:49]
mircea_popescu you could not get a single dolphin to fly, nor a single loafer to work, for an infinity in scrip. because it's not "in their nature" [12:49]
mircea_popescu specifically, not in the loafer's nature to chance, he needs to be coerced. and not in the scrip's nature to coerce, it'd have to be hard money for that. [12:50]
mircea_popescu in this sense, some guys stranded on a deserted island COULD build a coconut trading empire where they just keep selling and buying the same three dried old coconuts to the point where their imaginary "economy" far outstrips the whole combined world trade. [12:51]
mircea_popescu what they couldn't ever do, no matter what nominal value each coconut theoretically reaches, is buy a sloop. [12:52]
mircea_popescu even if the coconut goes for ten trillion "dollars" on their island, and a sloop never costs 1mn [12:52]
mircea_popescu so in this sense, thinking of bitcoin as even having a dollar value other than infinity is nonsense. [12:53]
mircea_popescu i can use my bitcoin to pay for a hit on obama. one can't even use his dollars in lumps larger than 10k, we don't even get to discuss the content because the form already trips us up. [12:53]
mircea_popescu in any case, money and us dollars aren't fungible, and so no, nobody could ever have used the billions poured into cybersecurity for any useful purpose. [12:54]
mircea_popescu that money only existed for as long as it wasn't put to work, much like buffett's billions worth of chewinggum empires [12:55]
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ascii_modem ty [13:07]
ascii_modem that money only existed for as long as it wasn't put to work << definition of bezzle, aha [13:08]
ascii_modem else simply sony-ing it << only question is how to make the buggers keep the 'sony-d' chip in print. [13:12]
ascii_modem notice how more or less full docs for 15+ y.o. pc components can usually be had (perhaps minus the backdoors & easter eggs, but sufficient for kernel devs) [13:14]
ascii_modem but invariably this happens only when the chip can no longer be met with even in a scrapyard. [13:15]
ascii_modem how come the fbi is this impotent ? << because it is slated for replacement with a new gendarmerie. i thought we went over this [13:23]
mircea_popescu no, sony the whole thing [13:23]
mircea_popescu keep chip in print yourself. [13:23]
ascii_modem lol which 'yourself' ? and how to know it wasn't a hangout design [13:24]
ascii_modem see siberian pipeline. [13:24]
mircea_popescu how does isis know the dushkas aren't really "gushkas" ? [13:24]
ascii_modem aha. see 'eldest son' [13:25]
ascii_modem (usa mixed tetryl into gunpowder and slipped the cartridges behind north vietnamese lines) [13:25]
mircea_popescu decimation: one gets the picture that usg 'leaders' think of themselves as being above such trivialities as secure communications << this is not as unlikely as itmay seem. at a time when caesar came up with the pgp of that time, most of the senate a) loled at the nonsense ; b) wondered which gods caesar was praying to to be that successful. [13:26]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem different usa. [13:26]
mircea_popescu by the way ascii_modem! teh world eagerly awaits a letter from you. seeing how we missed the previous opportunity [13:27]
ascii_modem soon as i get home ( visiting phamily ) [13:28]
mircea_popescu how's family ? [13:28]
ascii_modem sleeping. [13:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: wake me up when a 'minuteman' is pwned and sent off on an unsanctioned joyride. << that may require fixing them. [13:29]
ascii_modem so before my battery dies: fbi will be swapped out for janissary corps of some description [13:29]
ascii_modem just as courts will be freislerized under herr bhararra [13:29]
mircea_popescu nah [13:30]
mircea_popescu it doesn't actually have the oomph to carry it through [13:30]
mircea_popescu that'd be the fate of an actual, vital, functioning empire. [13:30]
ascii_modem and devil knows what other mutations will be - attempted [13:30]
mircea_popescu this one... will just dissolve. [13:30]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2014#959765 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2014#959724 [13:31]
assbot Logged on 24-12-2014 08:40:19; jurov: somehow nobody goes "o look, mp paid 100s of btc so bitcoin financial space may exist" << you know, that space practically does not exist for them [13:31]
assbot Logged on 24-12-2014 03:30:09; asciilifeform: all that resulted was a leak, of facts which anglo media will never print - so it's almost as good, from their point of view, as 'never happened' [13:31]
mircea_popescu errything's world with teh wrong! [13:31]
ascii_modem i still want to learn how they intend to keep dpr from mouthing off in the cage [13:31]
ascii_modem muzzle ? [13:31]
mircea_popescu threaten him with being kick out if he does. [13:32]
mircea_popescu likely, the same education that produced retardo-shrem had some effect on him too [13:32]
mircea_popescu fail that, kick him out of his own trial, hold the whole thing stalin-style [13:32]
mircea_popescu they'd rather not, but it's purely an aesthetic preference. [13:32]
ascii_modem i suspect he'll be shown the instruments. [13:32]
mircea_popescu eh what instruments. [13:32]
ascii_modem perhaps simply the inside of two different prisons [13:33]
mircea_popescu men afraid of prisons are like women afraid of cocks. [13:33]
ascii_modem they'll show him a пресс-хата [13:35]
ascii_modem (specially-prepared cell full of eager beavers of wtf the current eng term is for them) [13:36]
mircea_popescu is that a FEMININE ?! [13:36]
ascii_modem press-hut [13:36]
ascii_modem as in peine forte et dure [13:36]
mircea_popescu but it's press-hutte [13:36]
ascii_modem aha [13:36]
mircea_popescu lawl. [13:36]
mircea_popescu russian is almost romanian in its sense of sarcasm. [13:37]
ascii_modem arbitrary genderings, as in , e.g. french [13:37]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla: misery keeps us feed. <<< that kicked ass lol [13:38]
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mircea_popescu ;;google mika epstein daterange:2457024-2457026 [13:47]
gribble Mika Epstein aka Ipstenu is a thoroughly clueless poser pe Trilema ...: ; WordPress › Support » HostIP.info not working: ; Mailbag: Where Do I Start Learning? - Half-Elf on Tech: [13:47]
mircea_popescu heh. [13:47]
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mircea_popescu davout: BingoBoingo: i really like your articles <<< i agree, the man's showing real talent. [13:59]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-december-2014-statement/ [14:20]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: xilinx ships a set of identially-functioning turdlibraries for both languages. << one wonders how they actually achieved this. [14:36]
BingoBoingo BUT I WORK REALLY HARD! << But it stabilized S.MPOE [14:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: at the risk of repeating the last 100+ xilinx threads <<< basically, there was no torvalds for hardware. yet. [14:38]
mircea_popescu phocus an' emphasis on yet. [14:38]
* ben_vulpes dreams lightly of litho processes and large gates [14:40]
ben_vulpes [02:37:56] kakobrekla: he is just caught in a local pain minimum. <<< kako is like our blind slovenly prophet. he knows teh truths! << blind somalian i thot ;) [14:40]
mircea_popescu it's complicated. [14:40]
kakobrekla jesus bbet div incident again. this is worse than if it was automated. [14:46]
mircea_popescu much worse. [14:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: see the siberian pipeline incident. << i am not convinced by this sole flower. [14:48]
mircea_popescu pretty much every industrial project fails in some manner or another before being complete. [14:49]
mircea_popescu the russians are possibly sloppier than average. [14:49]
mircea_popescu in that sea of diverse failure, that malware was involved in like... one in a decade fails to even register [14:49]
mircea_popescu and this without as much as considering the wilful part. to propose that the us has any control over the ineptitude it peddles (not just software - their politics of "democracy" are equally inept, and just as eagerly exported) past the simple "it'll suck" strikes me as nonsense. [14:50]
mircea_popescu you might as well claim a tb patient is god, because he can kill people. sort-of. [14:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: what should he want on top of this ? << the world is not made either by or for the content. [14:52]
mircea_popescu decimation: if the world were reversed and china was designing stuff for us foundries to stamp out, it would certainly be the case that us folks would try to do it themselves << in 1814 this actually was the case, except china was england. [14:52]
mircea_popescu in 2014 ? no wai. ascii's description of the chinaman suits the usian much closer than it suits the intended subject. [14:53]
mircea_popescu decimation: complexity is intentional, to lock everybody in <<< while this may be true, it is also in economical terms an anti-moat. not only does it not make it hard for competitors to compete, it actually makes it easy. [14:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: the freedom of the semiconductor belongs - not! to the fellow with the factory - but the one who controlls the entire process stack << so much bull. and i suppose the freedom of the press belongs to conde nast, because mp can't write a blong and it can't be more widely read than mashable because wikipedia won't admit to it and that matters. o.O and okay... [14:55]
mircea_popescu Adlai: so what's the roadmap for liberating honest silicon's ability to self-reproduce from the monkeys that are trying to choke it down? a) make cardano ; b) make next product ; c) keep doing this. [14:56]
mircea_popescu keep nipping from the sides until eventually, have a complete, us-independent computing stack. start open war on the patent idiots, put everyone ever involved in jail, starve them slowly, publish pictures in a specially created memorial etc etc. [14:57]
kakobrekla #deed http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-december-2014-statement/#comment-111116 [15:05]
assbot BitBet (S.BBET) December 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HpbaTH ) [15:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54473 @ 0.00062038 = 33.794 BTC [+] {2} [15:05]
ben_vulpes kakobrekla: got my hopes up for a second there [15:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00056887 = 12.9702 BTC [-] {7} [15:26]
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BingoBoingo ;;gettrust darsie [16:05]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask darsie!~darsie@80-110-73-160.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user darsie: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=darsie | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=darsie | Rated since: Sun Jul 1 16:42:17 2012 [16:05]
BingoBoingo #21874 || darsie || BUY 1.0 1 kg uranium @ 100 EUR || e.g. counterweight, projectile, radiation shield. I'm not sure if that's a reasonable price since an aircraft company had trouble finding a dump where they could get rid of some counterweights. I'm open for other amounts or some thorium metal/compounds, highly radioactive stuff like mushrooms from Chernobyl and a ~1 kg piece of tungsten at/near theoretical density. [16:06]
BingoBoingo scoopbot -fetch [16:10]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/espn-sold-their-bitcoins/ [16:10]
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ascii_modem ty BingoBoingo [16:15]
ascii_modem see the siberian pipeline incident. << i am not convinced by this sole flower. <<<< an attributable wreck is a failed mission, really [16:18]
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mircea_popescu ;;seen punkman [16:18]
gribble punkman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 22 hours, 45 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: if I wasn't already smoker, I'd probably start right about now [16:18]
ascii_modem the silent, tedious corrosion of everything even vaguely computerized, on account of winblows - that's a modern usg win. [16:19]
mircea_popescu how is it a win lol. [16:19]
ascii_modem ephialtes doesnt care abou straightening own back - knows it's a fantasy - but happy to turn everyone else into hunchback. [16:20]
BingoBoingo how is it a win lol. << If USG accepts it can't have nice things it can try to still be kind of the dump [16:20]
mircea_popescu re BingoBoingo's piece : bitpay ended up buying VIEWERS at 150 usd/CPM ? [16:20]
mircea_popescu pretty bad deal. [16:21]
ascii_modem lol! i can't even readily distinguish this incident from the ordinary background radiation of perverse chumpatronicity that surrounds everything sport-related at all times... [16:23]
BingoBoingo Par for that advertising chumpatron [16:23]
mircea_popescu still a horrible use of dollars. apple got to be apple by paying about 2-5% of that, over a decade. [16:24]
mircea_popescu compared to that discipline, the impact of jobs' "genius" is overstated. [16:24]
mircea_popescu in completely unrelated idiocy : "No Javascript You are seeing this page because you do not have Javascript enabled in your browser. Unshorten.It! requires Javascript to function. " [16:25]
ascii_modem wat [16:25]
mircea_popescu meanwhile $ curl -v http://t.co/NSgTQv1tyN [16:25]
mircea_popescu location: http://trilema.com/2015/investigations-in-the-bone-heap-of-the-lost-generation-today-mashable/ [16:25]
assbot Investigations in the bone heap of the lost generation. Today, Mashable. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1A71lsD ) [16:25]
assbot Investigations in the bone heap of the lost generation. Today, Mashable. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1A71lsS ) [16:25]
mircea_popescu because the web is fucking useless. [16:25]
thestringpuller you're on a modem? I fall asleep for 2 hours and the world is back int he dark ages? [16:25]
ascii_modem radiomodem [16:26]
thestringpuller did you have to dial a telephone number too XD [16:26]
ascii_modem neh [16:27]
BingoBoingo still a horrible use of dollars. apple got to be apple by paying about 2-5% of that, over a decade. << It's a fake money problem really. Too many VC dollars that can't actually buy things so they go marketing pissing matches. [16:27]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo amusingly enough, they did get the right ideas earlier, just no execution. this i suppose is much easier. [16:27]
ascii_modem that which can be bought with toy money - will be [16:27]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, earlier they needed discipline to avoid starving. [16:28]
BingoBoingo We'll know Ethereum is dead when Vitalik puts of Vastly more money for a New Years day bowl. [16:28]
mircea_popescu heh. that's ok, we kinda knwo it's dead already. [16:29]
ascii_modem it fired its load [16:29]
ascii_modem to still palpable effect [16:29]
mircea_popescu i can't palp it ? how do you do it ? [16:30]
ascii_modem sank btc/usd. and this is the one time of year when i can feel it on on skin [16:31]
mircea_popescu heh nonsense. [16:31]
ascii_modem (recently paid for conf3) [16:31]
mircea_popescu you might as well say it global warmed. [16:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1800 @ 0.00082499 = 1.485 BTC [-] {2} [16:32]
mircea_popescu decimation: maybe 'honest' silicon valley is impossible, in the same way that it's impossible for the two prisoners to coorperate, even if it is in their best interests << actually the two prisoners cooperate more often than not. [16:32]
ascii_modem waterfalled [16:32]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem looky, the 12 btc or w/e random reddit noob threw under the bus in that scam does not to any degree figure. [16:32]
ascii_modem 30000 ? [16:33]
mircea_popescu get out. [16:33]
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ascii_modem now i can't say they physically existed [16:34]
ascii_modem but intended effect - is there. [16:34]
mircea_popescu so is global warming. [16:34]
mircea_popescu buterin did it! [16:34]
ascii_modem with mighty fart [16:35]
mircea_popescu (i'm somehow confused as to how the slackening btc affects you anyway, not like the conference became more expensive ?!) [16:35]
ascii_modem in btc [16:35]
mircea_popescu but if you just bought it, you just bought howevermany needed. 100 or 0.1, same thing to you, just a token [16:36]
ascii_modem can't get btc here by buying like cement [16:36]
mircea_popescu i dun follow ? [16:36]
ascii_modem i get paid in bzollars [16:37]
mircea_popescu ok...? [16:37]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [16:38]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 298.08, Best ask: 298.96, Bid-ask spread: 0.88000, Last trade: 297.91, 24 hour volume: 12530.87351372, 24 hour low: 297.0, 24 hour high: 316.83, 24 hour vwap: 305.118530684 [16:38]
mircea_popescu o hey, look at that, under 300 even [16:38]
ascii_modem these are not convertible to btc except via humiliating pederast temples [16:38]
mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2883651/U-S-military-shot-MH370-thought-hacked-used-terror-attack-claims-former-airline-boss.html [16:41]
assbot 'US military shot down MH370' claims former Proteus Airlines boss | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1A755dH ) [16:41]
mircea_popescu wait wait, so one of the miusing planes WAS ACTUALLY SHOT BY THE US ? [16:41]
mircea_popescu and they're still covering it up ? [16:41]
BingoBoingo these are not convertible to btc except via humiliating pederast temples << Local "Rent to Own" Chumpatron reportedly sells BTC via something called LibertyX Seems to fit the definition of Pederast temple [16:42]
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mircea_popescu !up ascii_modem [16:46]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: has anyone ever messed around with sighash_anyonecanpay? <<< not afaik. [16:46]
ascii_modem airplane << notice the sop 'dailymailization' tactic [16:47]
mircea_popescu yet another one of those very useful contributions of contributirs contributing. [16:47]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem i noticed it and ignored it. [16:47]
ascii_modem insta-anticredibility spray [16:47]
mircea_popescu looking forward to more of the "oh mp is such a conspiracy nut" stuff. [16:47]
mircea_popescu nope. doth not work. [16:47]
ascii_modem 'works when used as prescribed' [16:47]
mircea_popescu nope. it only works in the sense placebo is medicine. [16:48]
mircea_popescu placebo is not medicine, even if it "works". [16:48]
mircea_popescu for it to work it'd have to actually work. [16:48]
mircea_popescu but forget about me for a second. drudge beheaded clinton, the libtards' most beloved president (mostly because he destroyed banks and everyone's savings to put 100k black bums in houses they can't afford and meanwhile destroeyd) [16:49]
mircea_popescu all through, and years before, and years after they tried this "works" thing. [16:50]
mircea_popescu it did not save their president. it did nothing else. [16:50]
mircea_popescu it doth not work. [16:50]
ascii_modem worked re: kenney, for instance. [16:50]
ascii_modem kennedy [16:50]
ascii_modem damn this kbd [16:50]
mircea_popescu kennedy ? [16:51]
ascii_modem removal of [16:51]
mircea_popescu gimme a break will you, or else ima summon preet the friendly parrot to bar you from referencing stuff happening 20 years ago [16:51]
mircea_popescu statue of lithmusations, yo! [16:51]
mircea_popescu and currently it's "working" on rush limbaugh, and it's working so well the guy's audience's never been better [16:53]
mircea_popescu and all his dingy scams selling gold and other crap to mentally disabled senior citizens goes by flying. [16:53]
ascii_modem he, iirc, is the american zhirinovsky [16:54]
ascii_modem i.e. controlled , harmless clown [16:54]
mircea_popescu so this magical dust "works" except it doesn't but it's okay because when it doesn't the shaman didn't really want it to ? [16:56]
mircea_popescu at some point you gotta accept fact-based evidence. [16:56]
ascii_modem i'll say it stopped working when, e.g., pentagon missile is discussed - at a tribunal, followed by hangings [16:57]
ascii_modem of everyone involved in the coverups [16:58]
mircea_popescu these aren't in any sense the same thing. [16:58]
mircea_popescu you're proposing it works to the multitudes, this is a test of political will. [16:58]
mircea_popescu i'll hang them, with or without discussion, with or without "the public", once it's ripe. how's the "works" dust going to do anything either way then ? [16:58]
mircea_popescu or before then ? or after ? [16:58]
ascii_modem then - right, works no more [16:59]
ascii_modem meanwhile, something is standing between these folks and the lampposts [16:59]
mircea_popescu sure. but not that. [16:59]
mircea_popescu if it were that, they'd be dangling. [17:00]
mircea_popescu adlai: for the record, i think that's a shame and a sin, and that y'all are a little silly for this << do explain. [17:00]
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mircea_popescu or perhaps you're going to entertain polite doubt as to the proper count of three beads to better fit with the lazy posing as retarded ? [17:01]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: your cl is oddly object oriented << o.O [17:03]
mircea_popescu that's a serious insult is it ? [17:03]
ascii_modem for the record, 'clos' is, as of today, the only non-retarded incarnation of that concept yet built [17:04]
ascii_modem with the possible exception of its immediate ancestor, 'flavours' [17:05]
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ascii_modem see classic text 'art of the metaobject protocol' [17:05]
ascii_modem clos was not conceived by or for semiliterate labourers, like other 'object' systems [17:07]
ascii_modem but by and for folks occasionally working in difficult domains where no other model fits [17:07]
ascii_modem e.g. 'cad' [17:08]
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BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/24NMBFT [17:38]
assbot dpaste: 24NMBFT ... ( http://bit.ly/14kYDTq ) [17:38]
mircea_popescu not bad kakobrekla [17:52]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform, ascii_modem: i'll get to know it eventually. only now beginning to dabble with McCLIM at gabriel_laddel's suggestion. [17:53]
ben_vulpes for now, none of my problem domains need modeling with any sort of "objects". [17:53]
mircea_popescu heh, the problem with the f-35 isn't "stealth" [17:53]
mircea_popescu the problem with the f35 is the usg. [17:53]
ben_vulpes "stealth" aircraft is a straight up retarded concept. [17:54]
mircea_popescu this constant trying to unload blame for very personal, very peculiar, very speciffic and very narrow incompetence and idiocy on facts of math, physics and the world generally is ridoinculous. [17:54]
ben_vulpes "that 2x2 thing up at 30kft moving at mach 1.8 couldn't *possibly* be an airplane!" [17:54]
mircea_popescu the problem of f-35 is "transgender rights" and "women in tech" and "check your priviledge" [17:54]
mircea_popescu not stealth. [17:54]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the discussion can't possibly reach those merits, [17:55]
mircea_popescu because it dies much earlier on. [17:55]
ben_vulpes come now, the obsession with stealth is a great indicator of how moronic US armsmithing's become. [17:55]
BingoBoingo "that 2x2 thing up at 30kft moving at mach 1.8 couldn't *possibly* be an airplane!" << I though it couldn't get anywhere near that fast because it is too fat. [17:56]
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ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: the point is that "stealth" merely reduces the cross section, doesn't render things invisible. [17:56]
ben_vulpes "could it be a UFO, boss?" [17:57]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes this is true, but i'd state it like this : [17:57]
mircea_popescu air war is by its nature an attrition war. airplanes are made to be destroyed, fundamentally. [17:57]
mircea_popescu this plain fact meeting the us' unwillingness to actually fight created a mirage : the jet fighter that's not really a jet fighter [17:57]
ben_vulpes ha that's an amusing point. [17:58]
mircea_popescu in this sense, like the flying submarine or the pocket tank, it's pure nonsense. [17:58]
mircea_popescu the correct focus, when it comes to airfight, is cheapness. as the germans well proved, and then the allies well learned from them. [17:58]
ben_vulpes let's not forget the nips. [17:59]
mircea_popescu but to be a warlike country that'd require warlike men. and that is not something the current us can support. [17:59]
* mircea_popescu is asia-ignorant. [17:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20424 @ 0.00056694 = 11.5792 BTC [-] {2} [17:59]
ben_vulpes bamboo suicide planes, the stories hold. [17:59]
* ben_vulpes is no wwii japanese historian either [17:59]
ben_vulpes but! [17:59]
mircea_popescu lol [17:59]
ben_vulpes the limit of this curve has some interesting hints for the future of air combat. [18:00]
mircea_popescu incidentally, the most successful airstrike in human history [18:00]
mircea_popescu was carried out by men that didn't even own the fucking plane they used. [18:00]
mircea_popescu rented fucking aircraft! BY THE SEAT! [18:01]
ben_vulpes unmanned vehicles can pull arbitrary g loads, and be made across the spectrum of capability in a way that the manned vehicles currently aren't (probably couldn't be, due to procurement processes). [18:01]
mircea_popescu it's where they're trying to go with the drones neh ? [18:01]
ben_vulpes usg? [18:01]
mircea_popescu ya [18:01]
mircea_popescu well, everyone with a drone program [18:01]
ben_vulpes usg seems to be going out of its way to avoid anything smart with drones. [18:02]
mircea_popescu usg, china, russia, korea, etc [18:02]
ben_vulpes going so far as to build planes and fleets purpose designed to be vulnerable to swarm attacks., [18:02]
mircea_popescu no argument there. [18:02]
mircea_popescu "oh, nobody'd dare sink an aircraft carrier." [18:03]
mircea_popescu sort-of like the misbehaving nerd who imagines his school experience is life experience. "oh, he wouldn't REALLY punch me in the face." [18:03]
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ben_vulpes http://qntra.net/2015/01/espn-sold-their-bitcoins/ << purchaser of the contract is nowhere to be found lol [18:05]
assbot ESPN Sold Their Bitcoins | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/14l1CLq ) [18:05]
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ben_vulpes kakobrekla: amidoinitrong? [18:07]
mircea_popescu it voices neh ? [18:08]
ben_vulpes [19:31:50] these are not convertible to btc except via humiliating pederast temples << lol i love this routine [18:08]
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ben_vulpes "no u guise seriously i do everything the way lizard hitler insists" [18:08]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: hm mebbe i'm not seeing mode changes. [18:08]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla did you break the 30 minute thing ? [18:09]
kakobrekla [22:03:26] !up t [18:10]
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kakobrekla [22:04:05] !up ben_vulpes [18:10]
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kakobrekla ? [18:10]
ben_vulpes !down mircea_popescu [18:10]
kakobrekla yeah you voiced yourself so you are a faggot but nothing else. [18:10]
t so, what's bitcoin-assets all about then? [18:10]
ben_vulpes ;;ping [18:10]
gribble pong [18:10]
ben_vulpes derp [18:10]
ben_vulpes !t m butts [18:10]
assbot How can I be of assistance, my poor man? [18:10]
mircea_popescu ;;google bitcoin assets rules and regulations [18:10]
gribble IRS Notice 2014-21 - Internal Revenue Service: ; New York Proposes Bitcoin Regulations | Money.com - Time: ; Proposed New York Codes, Rules and Regulations - Department of ...: [18:10]
mircea_popescu mehj google. [18:11]
kakobrekla irs lol. [18:11]
mircea_popescu all teh wanna-bes! [18:11]
t t4nk themediator thestringpuller Tiraspol toddf toffoo TomServo Transisto tris tryphe tsoulus tych0 Tyklol [18:11]
t t4nk themediator thestringpuller Tiraspol toddf toffoo TomServo Transisto tris tryphe tsoulus tych0 Tyklol [18:11]
mircea_popescu t http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ [18:11]
ben_vulpes clearly google is oppressing you. [18:11]
assbot #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/14BP426 ) [18:11]
ben_vulpes t: cryptoanarchy [18:12]
t which is? [18:12]
ben_vulpes cryptoautarky? [18:12]
decimation ascii_modem: ephialtes doesnt care abou straightening own back - knows it's a fantasy - but happy to turn everyone else into hunchback. << "There is, in fact, a manly and lawful passion for equality which excites men to wish all to be powerful and honoured. This passion tends to elevate the humble to the rank of the great; but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to [18:12]
decimation lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - de Tocqueville [18:12]
ben_vulpes whatever one makes of it, t. [18:13]
t ben_vulpes: so what's the channel for? [18:13]
ben_vulpes mostly cult self-affirmation. [18:13]
ben_vulpes it's one of the more fun nodes in the bitcoin arg. [18:13]
ben_vulpes you too can slay grues! [18:13]
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ascii_modem danke ben_vulpes [18:14]
ascii_modem also plz explain re: herr hitler [18:15]
t people keep turning up complaining guys here are ddosing them, so what's going on with that? [18:15]
t t4nk themediator thestringpuller Tiraspol toddf toffoo TomServo Transisto tris tryphe tsoulus tych0 Tyklol [18:15]
ben_vulpes t: well for a while anyone without a cloak got ddossed. [18:15]
mircea_popescu t let me find you the relevant discussion in #freenode. [18:15]
ben_vulpes pretty simple. [18:15]
ascii_modem one of the idlers is a vandalbot [18:16]
kakobrekla (was afiak) [18:16]
t ben_vulpes: oh, who does that? [18:16]
ben_vulpes t: any chance you can make freenode autocloak people? i don't see the value in exposing everyone's IPs. [18:16]
ben_vulpes t: how would we find out? [18:16]
mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/UQbbXRcR [18:16]
t dunno, depends on who's involved etc. [18:17]
ben_vulpes aside from experimentally kicking everyone one at a time, logging in and finding the culprit. [18:17]
assbot **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 27 20:22:50 2014 Nov 27 20:22:50 * Now talking - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/14l2Y9b ) [18:17]
mircea_popescu t there yu go ^ [18:17]
kakobrekla t: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=fivezerotwo [18:17]
assbot 199 results for 'fivezerotwo' - #bitcoin-assets search [18:17]
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mircea_popescu ;;tslb [18:19]
decimation re: air war attrition << manned aircraft are on the way out anyway, with proper secure comms and a decent AI, a robot army of aircraft makes more sense [18:19]
gribble Time since last block: 3 minutes and 4 seconds [18:19]
mircea_popescu decimation is this "proper secure comms" thing like the holy sacrament ? [18:19]
decimation well, that's the obvious weak spot in a remote control aircraft [18:20]
ascii_modem the whole robot war thing -only- 'works' for usg or similar vs unarmed or max iron age folks [18:20]
ascii_modem jamming is easy & cheap [18:20]
decimation exactly, thus 'proper secure comms'. [18:20]
t t4nk themediator thestringpuller Tiraspol toddf toffoo TomServo Transisto tris tryphe tsoulus tych0 Tyklol [18:21]
ascii_modem using what magical unjammable wave. [18:21]
mircea_popescu t incidentally, how recent are these complains ? vandal seems to have moved on maybe a week or two ago. [18:21]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem well, maybe they make the fighter-bombers of the future work on love. [18:21]
decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-12-2014#961834 [18:22]
assbot Logged on 30-12-2014 04:51:09; asciilifeform: basic rules include: 1) don't be a loud, solitary point source. anywhere. ever. 2) spread spectrum, frequency hop, cryptographically driven 3) steganographically mix into existing spectrum garbage. [18:22]
decimation !ping assbot [18:22]
ascii_modem ^ inapplicable to realtime [18:22]
ascii_modem this is an essential lesson btw [18:22]
decimation ascii_modem: true. that's why ideally your robot plane ought to be able to operate without comms to the greatest extent possible [18:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5027 @ 0.00055352 = 2.7825 BTC [-] [18:22]
mircea_popescu could it bake me a pie / [18:23]
ascii_modem ai soldier - aha [18:23]
decimation well, the problem ai planes & ai soldiers is that the poorly wrought heuristics that went into the design would quickly be learned and exploited by the enemy [18:23]
ascii_modem 'yes master: i shall bake you, a pie' [18:24]
mircea_popescu "A woman without her man is nothing had an infinite number of arms" [18:25]
decimation I would grant that it is likely that if the us went to war against someone who would be willing & able to shoot down satellites then the us would find itself suddenly back into an air attrition war with human-piloted planes [18:25]
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decimation in which case, it would make a hell of alot more sense for the us to be stamping out thousands of f-16s for each 1 f-35 [18:26]
mircea_popescu what the hell is this war planning where "willing and able" are ifs on the part of the enemy ? [18:26]
ascii_modem usg presently has no enemy armies, only recalcitrant muppets [18:26]
mircea_popescu you discussing reality or fantasy ? [18:27]
ascii_modem for them these are made [18:27]
decimation it does seem that the us generally puts much weight on 'but they would never do that' in its foreign strategy [18:27]
ascii_modem rephantasality [18:27]
mircea_popescu not only are there ~3 armies it could never touch, but it's getting humiliated on a regular basis by the orks in the desert. [18:27]
ascii_modem as seen by the patients [18:27]
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mircea_popescu watch us foreign policy around china and you'll get a pretty good idea of how the war'd go. according to both parties. [18:28]
decimation re: orcs in the desert << the us could roll them over in about 2 days if the us were willing to commit the men & willing to actually fight to win [18:28]
decimation but the us is not so willing. [18:28]
mircea_popescu by the way : i've been reading chinese magazines, in the sense of looking at the pictures. [18:28]
ascii_modem this is like supposing that exterminators are enemies of roaches [18:29]
mircea_popescu you should see how obama is depicted in chinese mags. [18:29]
ascii_modem in reality - best friends [18:29]
mircea_popescu decimation could not. [18:29]
mircea_popescu the us is not the us of vietnam era, when what you say was probably true. [18:29]
mircea_popescu the us does not contain enough men today. [18:29]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem i've not seen many exterminators scurrying to scuttle their embassy or anything like that. [18:30]
ascii_modem eh it can always form a dirlewanger battallion. [18:30]
decimation I don't agree. there are plenty of men, but none of them would be willing to give up their lives to further the cause of the transgendered in syria [18:30]
mircea_popescu decimation seems a distinction without a difference in the context. [18:31]
decimation if in the sense of 'have, but can't use', I agree [18:31]
ascii_modem ( those unfamiliar with herr dirlewanger - srraight [18:31]
mircea_popescu anyway, this discussion readily reduces to stuff typified by like... tom sawyer [18:31]
mircea_popescu "i could if i wanted to" etc. [18:32]
ascii_modem to librraryg [18:32]
ascii_modem lookhimup, its worth it [18:32]
mircea_popescu is this the guy that got beaten to death by teh frenchies ? [18:33]
ascii_modem him [18:33]
ascii_modem it was poles iirc [18:33]
decimation ascii_modem: lol he was too much for the SS colonels [18:34]
ascii_modem made'em upchuck aye [18:34]
decimation well, from the press reports, he seems to be the model that isis is using on their side of the war (wrt random brutality), and it seems to be working for them [18:35]
ascii_modem part of a balanced ( empire-building ) diet. [18:36]
mircea_popescu decimation kinda what leads to my "no men" statements. brutality only works on certain types. [18:36]
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mircea_popescu ;;tslb [18:55]
gribble Time since last block: 7 minutes and 32 seconds [18:55]
thestringpuller ;;bc,stats [18:55]
gribble Current Blocks: 337341 | Current Difficulty: 4.064095501657649E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 338687 | Next Difficulty In: 1346 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 7 hours, 24 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 45911296618.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.96806 [18:55]
thestringpuller damn [18:56]
thestringpuller I need to buy coins [18:56]
thestringpuller it's not on the schedule tho :( [18:56]
mircea_popescu davout: who decided, and why, that the contents should be gpg signed ? << oh for cryssakes it was in the log like 20 times. [18:56]
thestringpuller what's this storj thing? [18:57]
thestringpuller another ycombinator thing? [18:57]
mircea_popescu well, the most encrypted cloud storage. [18:58]
mircea_popescu i was waiting for that absolute becoming comparable at the hands of the internet busineseers. [18:58]
thestringpuller sounds a lot like incentivized torrents [18:59]
thestringpuller just /w encryption [19:01]
thestringpuller couldn't you get same effect by spinning up a bunch of AWS instances and storing data encrypted with GPG key? [19:01]
mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qg8ki/satoshi_nakamoto_institute_launch_podcast_first/cn5y2ue << i lolled [19:01]
assbot cazalla662 comments on Satoshi Nakamoto Institute Launch Podcast (First episode linked: Appcoins and Bitcoin Maximalism from Daniel Krawisz and Michael Goldstein) ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqAWFi ) [19:01]
thestringpuller "I keep seeing rabbits." [19:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 51 @ 0.06143919 = 3.1334 BTC [-] {11} [19:04]
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kakobrekla lol https://hashtalk.org/topic/27529/30-days-of-transparent-questions-and-answers/1 [19:07]
assbot HashTalk - Ideas, Talk, and Hardware - Bitcoin & Scrypt Mining ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqBFWM ) [19:07]
mircea_popescu t anyway, since you seem to be pretty much the balance of still active freenode staff : rather than wasting time on this nonsense of some kid that thinks banal netbios ddos makes him a wizard (which i think has outlived its charm anyway) [19:07]
mircea_popescu how about we do something useful. it's been... about a year or so i've been trying to set yu people up with servers. [19:08]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2014#960826 hahaha pretty epic. [19:09]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2014 19:13:33; asciilifeform: 'For us as the Reserve Bank... ...we'll have to figure out how we make money because the way we generate most of our revenue is through forms of seigniorage, people are willing to hold currency free of interest and that's how we make money...' [19:09]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2014#960841 << or, for that matter, eskimo bob. he had that good dose of very angry ready to explode stalker. rob viragh is much more of a dribble, kinda difficult to distinguish from the "michael kors backpacks" flowing mindlessly every which way on the internet. [19:12]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2014 19:20:38; ben_vulpes: if only tiberius were still with us. now *that* was some trolling. [19:12]
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mircea_popescu hm, from asciilifeform's naggum link. "The moralist would not _be_ a moralist if he were willing to abide by and obey the rules he thinks that other people should follow." [19:15]
mircea_popescu i guess i can't be a moralist now ?! [19:15]
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mircea_popescu re the "turned their nose, mainly on account of these pieces", there is something in there i can see as well. it could be reduced to mere bad writing, but otherwise there's this recursive insistence on boring, banal shit that gives the impression the guy's not quite... you know, queenheaded. [19:20]
mircea_popescu "Why do you need to have this pointed out in public after you demonstrate again and again that you do not understand what you are saying, cannot do what you say "is not option", and continue to blame others for your behavior?" could have been removed without loss, for instance. parsimony is a great approach, especially when dealing with idiots. [19:21]
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mircea_popescu "You need to learn an important lesson and it will not be complete until you are completely humiliated -- or you figure out that what you have done is so bad and stupid that you simply leave us alone until the shame wears off." << surprising naggum never made the next logical step into bdsm. [19:48]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform https://twitter.com/LizardMafia/status/548523618901454848 << i'm kinda curious, do you feel responsible for the naming convention ? [19:51]
assbot All your onions are belong to us. [19:51]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: what does it mean to bitcoinate? << download and verify blocks, create and broadcast blocks which are in turn verified. [19:52]
mircea_popescu meh. [19:52]
mircea_popescu download and verify blocks, create and broadcast txn which are included in blocks. [19:52]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform's "whatsoever" sucks, not least of all because it creates hole for various gnomes to shoehorn their stuff in [19:53]
mircea_popescu !up ascii_modem [19:53]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_modem for 30 minutes. [19:53]
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ascii_modem danke [19:54]
ascii_modem lizards << credit d. icke [19:54]
mircea_popescu cazalla: well, that didn't take long.. bitcoinfoundation.org has redesigned their website yet again <<< gotta do something... [19:54]
ascii_modem afaik he wrote the basic picture [19:54]
mircea_popescu !s lizard [19:54]
assbot 86 results for 'lizard' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=lizard [19:54]
ascii_modem what was this 'wharsoever' i firget [19:54]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2014#960878 [19:55]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2014 19:57:06; ben_vulpes: a philosophical question [19:55]
ascii_modem aha right [19:55]
ascii_modem was a sloppy bit of work [19:55]
mircea_popescu im fucking excited to see these guy's monthly report for dec or jan or whenever's next [19:56]
mircea_popescu this hasn't happened to me in bitcoin before. [19:57]
ascii_modem gnomery is a cadre problem ( is right word ? ) [19:57]
mircea_popescu ascii_modem much like pestilence is a hygiene problem. sure, it is. doesn't hurt having smooth surfaces tho. [19:57]
mircea_popescu *: decimation thinks that time horizon has already been reached <<< pretty much. i dun know any great programmers that want to go to the us. i know some great progreammers stuck i nthere that haven't yet figured that yes, they can leave [19:58]
mircea_popescu but for however long that lasts. [19:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1550 @ 0.00080543 = 1.2484 BTC [+] {5} [19:59]
ascii_modem aha, recall naggum's picture of 'thriving perl ecosystem' as, iirc, a carcass in the sun alive with vermin [19:59]
mircea_popescu yet perl outlived him. [20:00]
mircea_popescu such an improbable feat, that, if you think of it. most of the bad languages i met in my adolescence are dead and im not even old yet! [20:00]
ascii_modem vermin proverbially outlive damn near everything [20:01]
mircea_popescu haha i guess that's by definition huh [20:02]
ascii_modem perl and the like cannot really die; the human folly that makes them irresistible for some folks - is immortal [20:03]
ascii_modem !s new jersey approach [20:03]
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mircea_popescu "The anti-immigration people have to invent some explanation to account for all the effort technology companies have expended trying to make immigration easier. " [20:04]
mircea_popescu wait... wut ?! [20:04]
mircea_popescu and i have to invent some explanation to account for all the effort libtards have put into trying to break down functional society ? [20:04]
mircea_popescu "So they claim it's because they want to drive down salaries. But if you talk to startups, you find practically every one over a certain size has gone through legal contortions to get programmers into the US, where they then paid them the same as they'd have paid an American. Why would they go to extra trouble to get programmers for the same price? " [20:05]
mircea_popescu either this guy is dumb or the most bald faced scammer ever. seriously, that's how prices work ? [20:05]
ascii_modem scamz0r [20:06]
ascii_modem but dips into own stash [20:06]
mircea_popescu kinda, ya. [20:06]
mircea_popescu i find it fascinating just how willing to insult their audience these people are. [20:07]
ascii_modem the bugger knows well from what countries they bring the coolies, and why [20:07]
mircea_popescu i mean, the written output of the bezzle world is not about convincing, or for that matter even fooling mp. [20:07]
ascii_modem largely it is the croak if frogs [20:07]
mircea_popescu but there are these people in the middle, who either because they're young, or because they're marginally educated, or marginally intelligent, don't really find themselves in a position of serene immunity. [20:08]
ascii_modem of [20:08]
ascii_modem there is no 'why' for it [20:08]
mircea_popescu yet they do understand enough of you know, basic arithmetic and thermodynamics to see that a "same price" argument is pure nonsense. [20:08]
mircea_popescu yet graham doth not care. not on wit. [20:08]
mircea_popescu how about that one kid who worships him for whatever dumb kid reason, who suddenly looks up from that page and thinks... [20:08]
mircea_popescu but wait! if they didn't pay "the same price" for an immigrant, they'd have to pay a higher price for a local [20:09]
mircea_popescu which you know they were recently convicted for criminally colluding not to do. [20:09]
mircea_popescu so... same price ? no same price. [20:09]
mircea_popescu does this guy have not the slightest moral compunction about that one kid ? because why, because 5 million mouthbreathers that wouldn't read him anyway wouldn't see it in a million years ? [20:09]
mircea_popescu what fucking sense does this even begin to make! who's graham loyal to, where's his flag flying ? [20:10]
ascii_modem this is not how the kids in question work. whatever saint craps out - gospel. if patent nonsense: test of faith! [20:10]
mircea_popescu no wai dude. [20:10]
mircea_popescu bear in mind that i have the advantage of very deep intimacy with people that age [20:10]
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ascii_modem see mr spam. [20:11]
mircea_popescu mostly female, but representative. [20:11]
mircea_popescu mr spam meets neither qualification. [20:11]
mircea_popescu !up null123 [20:11]
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ascii_modem representative?! [20:11]
mircea_popescu yes. [20:11]
ascii_modem until kid 'sets bozo bit' on his 'sensei', he will assume, at any juncture where he finds himself lost, that - his own fault [20:13]
ascii_modem no? [20:13]
ascii_modem and setting bozo bit on the fellow who convincingly plays the part of your only ticket out of hell - is psychologically expensive [20:14]
ascii_modem pg's flunkies believe that they shall be rewarded in this life. [20:16]
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mircea_popescu not that simple [20:18]
mircea_popescu i mean yeah that's how it works for the retarded, 75 to 90 iq [20:18]
mircea_popescu but people in the 120 and over range tend to wish to followalong at home [20:18]
cazalla mircea_popescu, dja mean qntra or gaw has been largely ignored ? <<< i meant qntra but it was like the 2nd post i made so sorta makes sense not many people read it [20:19]
ascii_modem hell, people still read thomas aquinas etc [20:20]
mircea_popescu im one of those people. [20:20]
ascii_modem s/read/swallow [20:20]
ascii_modem (we all read) [20:20]
ben_vulpes perl and the like cannot really die; the human folly that makes them irresistible for some folks - is immortal << not to mention at the heart of so many terminals. [20:21]
ben_vulpes subject of terminals, may i ask what terminal you use, asciilifeform? [20:21]
ascii_modem bad example? think of every 'intellectual narcotic' or whatever folks call it now [20:21]
ascii_modem ben_vulpes: xterm [20:22]
ascii_modem with some decrufting [20:22]
ascii_modem and solely in 'ratpoison' [20:22]
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ben_vulpes xterm, eh? [20:23]
ascii_modem ben_vulpes: if you were thinking of physical glass tty - sadly i no longer own one [20:23]
ben_vulpes lolno, even my dreams aren't that grand. [20:23]
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ben_vulpes oh! and subject of ratpoison, did you evaluate and reject stumpwm at some point? [20:23]
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mircea_popescu xterm is actually a little unsung hero [20:41]
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t t4nk TheGreatHoobini themediator thestringpuller Tiraspol toddf toffoo TomServo Transisto tris tryphe tsoulus tych0 Tyklol [20:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: anyone wanting to hire 30 inventors needs his head checked <<< and what could you do for them ? [20:48]
mircea_popescu and how'd you survive ? [20:48]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, do you define inventor as someone who has invented something before ? << i define inventor as someone who is a) intelligent and b) completely contemptuous of rules. [20:49]
mircea_popescu what common people have historically called a psychopath. [20:49]
ben_vulpes xterm, huh? [20:51]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: the notion that an order once placed must live on until filled is pretty lulzy <<< that's not what's going on there. [20:52]
mircea_popescu they actually have a point, albeit a finnicky one and meanwhile the world fell from under the sort of place where such;d be entertained. [20:52]
ben_vulpes the point being that one shouldn't be allowed to fire off an order and then immediately its cancellation just to see the market response? [20:54]
mircea_popescu the point being that the chair you stand on is only solid in the sense that the wavelength is so tiny you don't have the time to fall through, because your time's quantisized. [20:54]
mircea_popescu in the exact same manner, if you allow them to oscillate narrowly enough, you break the concept of volume [20:55]
mircea_popescu and it's not clear (but altogether probable that no) whether the concept of exchange works without volume. [20:55]
ben_vulpes how'd we do things before the nasdaq? [20:56]
ben_vulpes daily computations of volume? [20:56]
mircea_popescu they never had the problem [20:56]
mircea_popescu because it wasn't technically possible to create oscillators good enough. [20:56]
ben_vulpes hm. [20:58]
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mircea_popescu anyway. it'd have been a point in a world pre qe. by now it's like discussing the sow's pubic hairdo. [20:58]
mircea_popescu www.sonicfitness.com/cache/uggs.php?uggs=ugg-bottes-pas-cher-france.php << caches. [21:00]
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Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, I see, so not the very sort graham would like to hire [21:06]
mircea_popescu well... the sort he claims he wants to hire, but then ends up with perople like altman [21:06]
mircea_popescu in all respects the exact opposite (no intelligence, all rulebook) [21:06]
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mircea_popescu "assbot: Wealth: The Toxic Byproduct | Melting Asphalt " << bwahaha ok. [21:13]
mircea_popescu The piece is a thinking man's struggle to understand the value of his profession. By Somers' own reckoning, his accounts are out of balance. He's paid handsomely, but the work is trivial. As he says: [21:14]
mircea_popescu Most of what we’re doing, in fact, is putting boxes on a page.... We fill our days with the humdrum upkeep of these boxes: we change the colours; we add a link to let you edit some text; we track how far you scroll down the page.... Web development is more like plumbing than any of us, perched in front of two slick monitors, would care to admit. [21:14]
mircea_popescu Somers' anguish is palpable, and his catalogue of self-effacing remarks reads like an apology. He heaps criticism on himself, his job, and his entire profession. "Web start-up companies are like play-companies," he laments. Their products are "cheap, fun, and about as worldchanging as creating a new variation on beer pong." [21:14]
adlai AdrianoOliveira aegis Anduck Apocalyptic artifexd asciilifeform assbot Azelphur [21:14]
mircea_popescu and incidentally, we have "inventors" defined, if anyone's still curious. [21:14]
mircea_popescu they "create" a new variation on beer pong. [21:14]
mircea_popescu need to keep importing new turnips because the citizen turnips are too likely to understand harlan ellison ranting in his native tongue. [21:15]
[]bot Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 46(Y):54(N) by weight. Total bet: 4050.54501946 BTC. Current weight: 12,517. [21:26]
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mircea_popescu "Assume you can only pass two things through the window — francs and sacks of grain. Knowing that the Congo is one of the poorest countries on the planet, what strategy will you pursue in order to do the most good for their society?" [21:30]
mircea_popescu fucking retards these people. [21:30]
mircea_popescu adlai: this article is more thought-provoking than most drugs out there << no, it's not thought provoking. [21:31]
mircea_popescu that article is the exact equivalent of masturbation, intellectually : it contains nothing that can even remotely be considered a thought, while keeping the mind spinning. [21:32]
mircea_popescu if you must participate in the empty calorie fest of religion, at least pick something respectable rather than the neo-neo-protestant bullshit made by people that are not even less intelligent than that smith fellow with the "ancient egyptian" tablets at the bottom of his hat [21:32]
mircea_popescu but much less well read to boot. [21:33]
mircea_popescu i doubt anyone could have imagined in the xixth century that anythign less intelligent than us neoprotestantism could be borne by the world. and yet... they've done it again. [21:34]
decimation mircea_popescu: once folks have eliminated all possibility of the supernatural, they gotta worship something, why not the local market? [21:37]
mircea_popescu you can't worship a thing that exists. [21:37]
mircea_popescu if you're going to live in a house, it's generally a better idea to get a house than cobble together something which, to the best of your abilities, is a house. [21:38]
mircea_popescu and if you're going to worship, pick something that's at least as well designed as reality permits [21:38]
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mircea_popescu but no, this never-ending american exceptionalism, where if they never wash baths don't exist and joe squarejaw invented "humidification", this process whereby you dab parts of yourself with a wet cloth. [21:39]
mircea_popescu also known as a whore bath in the rest of the world, except joe squarejaw has never heard of the rest of the world. [21:39]
decimation yeah, america has a pretty strong tradition of 'history doesn't matter, the world is getting better, we are an outpost of the future, etc' [21:42]
mircea_popescu "You begin to wonder if you should feel guilty taking all this money from the poor Congolese — who are now (you must conclude) even poorer as a result." << because that's what money is, right ? a fetish. [21:43]
mircea_popescu if someone sent 10mn btc to the black hole, we'll all be even poorer as a result. because reasons. [21:43]
mircea_popescu and larger amounts of number. [21:43]
mircea_popescu and velocity of money never happened. and understanding consists of daydreaming, and everyone's the same and random nitwits that never killed a man are now allowed to make moral judgements [21:44]
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mircea_popescu ima go stomp kittens, this shit's too much. [21:44]
decimation yeah I read it as pure narcissism masquerading as ideas [21:45]
mircea_popescu some years ago i went to timisoara, which is a tiny city in eastern europe, and fancies itself important but really it's a sort of romania's pittsburgh. [21:51]
mircea_popescu then some time last year i left. [21:51]
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mircea_popescu by this logic, seeing how the total value of all assets in that city is probably south of a billion dollars, my leaving constituted a loss of more than half its wealth [21:52]
mircea_popescu and i should perhaps feel bad, because whatever, if you have money it's not your money. it's some other dudes'. [21:52]
mircea_popescu just like that, they happened to be in the way. because wealth is a sort of rain. [21:52]
decimation the god of market morality said so [21:53]
mircea_popescu let us not get into shape but instead sit on the couch and wax poetic about what men should be doing and what the definition of womanhood is ; let us not have a clue nor try to get a clue, but instead wax poetic on what money is and what other people should be doing with it and what it all means. [21:54]
mircea_popescu im so sick of the civilisation of marauding impotence it can scarcely be put into words. [21:54]
mircea_popescu "come be fat and stupid just like us, 54965489769474985 people like this" [21:54]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 46(Y):54(N) by weight. Total bet: 4051.54501946 BTC. Current weight: 12,510. [21:58]
decimation http://i.imgur.com/TdaIiDp.jpg << one billion served [21:59]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1vJPWHR ) [21:59]
mircea_popescu hahaha [22:00]
decimation http://pepijndevos.nl/2015/01/03/branch-free-fizzbuzz-in-assembly.html << ascii, mild amusement. when one wants to implement something (algorithm without branches) suddenly there is no resort except bedrock [22:01]
assbot Branch-free FizzBuzz in Assembly - Wishful Coding ... ( http://bit.ly/1vJQjSC ) [22:01]
mircea_popescu "Money soon became worthless. We returned to an exchange. For a tin can of tushonka (think Soviet spam), you could have a woman. (It is hard to speak of it, but it is true.) Most of the women who sold themselves were desperate mothers." [22:04]
mircea_popescu this actually is true. most of the desperate prostitution is mothers trying to cope. [22:05]
mircea_popescu apparently kids crying are annoying in general, but for that month it takes them to die of hunger... [22:05]
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cazalla my experience with it is that there is nothing worse, i hear it even when it is quiet and the kid is asleep, it really gets into your brain [22:07]
decimation cazalla: I had the same experience last night, makes you paranoid [22:08]
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cazalla decimation, that is why i sleep at the other end of the house for the past couple months now [22:08]
decimation lol wife is okay with that? [22:08]
cazalla never asked tbh [22:09]
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-assbot- You voiced zebedee for 30 minutes. [22:43]
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cazalla because aussie need a beer with their KFC http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/kfc-plan-to-sell-beer-cider-criticised-20150103-12h326.html [23:19]
assbot KFC plan to sell beer, cider criticised ... ( http://bit.ly/1tIAr91 ) [23:19]
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ben_vulpes wat [23:49]
ben_vulpes ;;ping [23:50]
gribble pong [23:50]
ben_vulpes well this is exciting! [23:50]
ben_vulpes i'm going to read logs and then hopefully disconnect all of those errant connections. or just permaban myself! who can ever know with fleanode. [23:50]
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