Forum logs for 03 Feb 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu i was expecting at least some unwind [00:00]
mircea_popescu but... crickets. [00:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.7567 = 12.1072 BTC [-] [00:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.7567 = 2.2701 BTC [-] [00:06]
mjr_ i think its awesome that you can buy shares literally right before the dividend and still get them [00:06]
mjr_ especially if the market doesn't seem to want to price them in [00:06]
mjr_ i see no reason not to just hold it, but you could just get in and out on dividend day] [00:07]
mod6 I was going to add though, it is great to have a way to submit orders right through the textarea with the submit button. I used to do a lot of orders by hand until I wrote the perl thingy. [00:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00067189 = 2.8891 BTC [-] [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006658 = 2.8769 BTC [-] [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7979 @ 0.00066565 = 5.3112 BTC [-] [00:08]
mod6 So that's an awesome way to do manual orders or do some testing. [00:09]
mircea_popescu this is true, yeah. [00:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1571 @ 0.00066565 = 1.0457 BTC [-] [00:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.0006649 = 4.3551 BTC [-] [00:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00066411 = 1.9452 BTC [-] [00:11]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140700.msg1499150#msg1499150 << mpoe-pr is rubbing off on people! [00:12]
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mod6 Even with BitOTTer, the users will have to know how to use PGP (gpg) tools to use it though. So learning this is still required. [00:12]
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mod6 At minimum they'll have to export their private key from their keyring to an asciiarmored output, so that at least... [00:13]
mod6 (that along with their public key) [00:13]
mod6 those files will have to be copied onto the device in the manual way, and then they'll be able to be read in and secured, etc. [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7803 @ 0.00066411 = 5.1821 BTC [-] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4732 @ 0.00066316 = 3.1381 BTC [-] [00:14]
mod6 But still, people have this kneejerk reaction about PGP. But I'm always like "But PGP is your friend!!" [00:14]
mjr_ there was a great xkcd about that... [00:18]
mjr_ about how maybe strong encryption should have been classified as a weapon so it'd be protected by the second amendment lol [00:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067219 = 2.9045 BTC [+] [00:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9829 @ 0.00067229 = 6.6079 BTC [+] [00:19]
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mod6 http://xkcd.com/364/ << haha [00:20]
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assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+] [00:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00729495 = 1.0942 BTC [-] [00:20]
mjr_ lol [00:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 271 @ 0.00729494 = 1.9769 BTC [-] [00:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 813 @ 0.00724493 = 5.8901 BTC [-] [00:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 205 @ 0.00724226 = 1.4847 BTC [-] [00:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 623 @ 0.00720781 = 4.4905 BTC [-] [00:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 707 @ 0.00720505 = 5.094 BTC [-] [00:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 231 @ 0.00718281 = 1.6592 BTC [-] [00:21]
mjr_ wow [00:21]
mjr_ cool stuff, was that a market order that took a few levels? [00:21]
mircea_popescu a ok [00:21]
mircea_popescu ya by the looks of it [00:21]
mjr_ ok maybe a silly question but i don't think it was in the faq (i'll double check) is there a way to see level II info for the stocks? [00:23]
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mjr_ is the json feed the only way? [00:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 618 @ 0.00066316 = 0.4098 BTC [-] [00:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2894 @ 0.00066215 = 1.9163 BTC [-] [00:29]
mircea_popescu well, seen live.coinbr.com ? [00:29]
mjr_ i have not, i will take a look at it [00:29]
mjr_ oh yeah i think i have been there but it never renders correctly [00:30]
mircea_popescu raw data is in the jsons/rss [00:31]
mircea_popescu pretty much everything else you have to make yourself [00:31]
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mjr_ all good [00:32]
mjr_ i think there is some image which doesn't load and it blocks the actual symbols [00:32]
mircea_popescu if you make something a buncha people like/use there may be a market for you in it [00:32]
mjr_ good point [00:32]
mjr_ i really like the layout and design of clarkmoody [00:33]
mjr_ just wish it had more exchanges and mpex data [00:33]
jcpham once you go black... [00:33]
mircea_popescu why doesn't it have mpex data ? [00:33]
mircea_popescu i thought it was pretty much user configured [00:34]
mjr_ as far as i can see it just takes mt. gox [00:34]
mjr_ and i have not seen any way to change those settings [00:34]
jurov mjr_, which browser? [00:35]
mjr_ chrome [00:35]
mjr_ is that not supported? [00:35]
jurov live.coinbr uses vanilla google charts ... can't believe google can't make its own shit work right [00:36]
mircea_popescu ahahah this is good [00:36]
jurov mjr_: try sending screenshot, i'll look what else it can be [00:36]
mjr_ could be me, i just did inspect element and it pops up [00:37]
mjr_ but if i close the inspect element, it doesn't load [00:37]
mjr_ it's the chart that is not loading so it could be a problem with my handling of svg i guess [00:37]
jurov no js errors? [00:38]
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mjr_ does not appear to be js related [00:40]
mjr_ at least all the scripts seem to have loaded properly [00:41]
jurov dunno then [00:41]
mjr_ yeah i have a sreenshot if you wanna see [00:41]
mjr_ weirdly enough i can't right click on the area where the chart would be [00:41]
mjr_ i have to do it in the tiny sliver at the top in order to get to inspect element [00:41]
mjr_ i can try other web browsers if that would help [00:42]
jurov if on the screnshot is anything beyond [Back to CoinBr] [S.DICE] [S.BBET] Show trades for last: [00:42]
jurov then i'm interested [00:42]
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mjr_ doesn't even show all of that, weirdly enough it works in IE so maybe issues on my end [00:43]
mjr_ (surely issues on my end) [00:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00067229 = 2.8236 BTC [+] [00:43]
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jurov btw, i think i left there commented js code to read mpex rss feed... so if anyone wants an example [00:45]
mjr_ thanks i will look into it [00:45]
mjr_ one quick security question [00:46]
mjr_ where do you hold the shares that you buy? are they in an account on mpex? [00:46]
jurov they have to be there, for online trading to be possible [00:46]
mjr_ yes, ok [00:47]
mjr_ i am planning on more of a buy and hold approach [00:47]
mjr_ but i have no issues with shares on mpex or coinbr [00:47]
mjr_ i was planning on a paper wallet that i could continue to pour coins into, but would not be connected to anything [00:48]
mjr_ and was wondering if there was something similar for the shares etc [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.007395 = 12.5715 BTC [+] [00:48]
jurov there is none known way to take shares out of mpex and nto safe if that's what you mean [00:48]
mjr_ yeah no big deal, it is the most secure i've seen really [00:48]
mjr_ so probably better to leave them there [00:48]
mjr_ but for the coins, i was thinking paper wallet in safe deposit box [00:49]
mjr_ with some for buying and such [00:49]
mjr_ in a separate wallet [00:49]
Bugpowder I think the shares are probably safer in MPs machine than in mine :-P [00:50]
mjr_ yeah [00:50]
mjr_ i agree [00:50]
jurov well, there are tries to make p2p exchanges... but so far it looks they are not usable for anything near mpex volume/speed [00:51]
mjr_ yeah, i realy like mpex [00:51]
mircea_popescu eventually mpex will be p2p too im pretty sure [00:51]
jurov and i personally wait for someone to aptly and comprehensively blog about them [00:51]
mircea_popescu but none of the current nonsense. [00:51]
mircea_popescu jurov i'd argue that making copies of the mpex_db is pretty safe. [00:52]
mircea_popescu in a paper wallet sort of way [00:52]
jurov "do you have the shares safely stored?" "yes, i have whole mpex database in cold storage" [00:53]
mircea_popescu something like that. better than paper wallet cause well... you can't read it [00:54]
mjr_ really nice financials by the way [01:00]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you realize that the webserver - trade engine is what a lot of banks are migrating to right? [01:08]
jurov thestringpuller, the core of his argument isn't this [01:08]
mircea_popescu for some values of "a lot". [01:09]
mircea_popescu "Learn how to avoid ripoffs - send $5." [01:09]
jurov it's about users identifying themselves and using any channel, possibly insecure to communicate with exchange [01:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.35 = 3.85 BTC [+] [01:10]
mircea_popescu http://www.news-record.com/home/679910-63/mr-buffett-im-sorry << this is pretty good! [01:10]
jurov as opposed to providing byzantine infrastructure to create pipe to safely communicate [01:10]
mjr_ well yeah, i think that is the more robust system [01:11]
mjr_ to expect that people will try to steal the messages [01:11]
mjr_ instead of trusting in infrastructure [01:11]
mjr_ i feel like usually the central planning type of things assumes perfect implementation [01:12]
mjr_ and plans accordingly [01:12]
mjr_ and are shocked when things fail [01:12]
jurov it's ego thing, everyone wants to build something big that will outlast him [01:13]
thestringpuller For that reason last year a London bank processor went offline for 2 hours and 90% of the population were unable to make any withdrawals or deposits... [01:13]
jurov creating liability for descendants in turn [01:13]
mjr_ yeah, or the facebook ipo with nasdaq [01:13]
thestringpuller Most banks are moving to a distributed system... [01:13]
thestringpuller well their processors at least [01:14]
mjr_ in general, big complex systems are going to have cracks while small distributed systems CAN be easy to implement once, and then multiplied in a scalable way [01:14]
fancypants how does S.DICE and/or S.BBET decide when to pay dividend? I can't seem to find it or determine any sort of a pattern from the history [01:14]
jurov on 1st they get roaring drunk then sleep and wake up , then start working on report [01:15]
jurov and then pay divs [01:15]
mjr_ that what it looked like [01:15]
mjr_ it seems to be within two days after issuing monthly report [01:16]
mjr_ by the way...the al gore interview on the daily show was pretty interesting and they talked about high frequency [01:17]
jurov looks like cool thing to do... maybe i'll get public [01:17]
jurov just did a rough select how much coinbr made in january. my head spinned a bit. sadly, no lacohol around. [01:17]
mjr_ i take it that's good news? [01:18]
mircea_popescu how much did it make ? [01:18]
kakobrekla more than bbet. [01:19]
kakobrekla ;> [01:19]
mircea_popescu lol [01:20]
thestringpuller mircea should demand fees from you for working on his turf [01:20]
mircea_popescu well... it's laso been running longer :D [01:20]
mjr_ i believe that he does collect fees :) [01:20]
jurov he does [01:20]
mjr_ there are fees on all trades [01:20]
thestringpuller directly from jurov though "I want 50%" [01:20]
mjr_ lol [01:20]
thestringpuller "Or else something could happen..." [01:20]
thestringpuller Call it "insurance" [01:20]
mjr_ ahhahaha [01:20]
thestringpuller maybe your key gets disabled...on accident [01:21]
mjr_ i think that's what the registration is for [01:21]
jurov i'm just trying to check the number till i release it in the wild [01:21]
mircea_popescu sorta like make sure i keep mpex small. bludgeon successful people, something like that ? [01:21]
mjr_ i really love the mpex model as is [01:21]
mjr_ agorist [01:21]
mircea_popescu jurov well, over 1k ? over 10k ? [01:22]
jurov tada... bit over 38 BTC [01:22]
mircea_popescu o hey. [01:22]
jurov :D [01:22]
kakobrekla not bad [01:22]
mjr_ very nice [01:22]
mircea_popescu it IS more than bbet [01:22]
mircea_popescu fuck this im nuking his acct. [01:22]
pizzaman1337 lulz [01:22]
kakobrekla :DD [01:22]
mircea_popescu mpoe-pr should post in foerum "jurov's shares discarded as worthless!" [01:22]
mircea_popescu then jurov could whine [01:22]
mircea_popescu we could probably take over the forum for a day [01:23]
thestringpuller isn't that how business used to work? [01:23]
thestringpuller someone competes with you, you burn down their factory? [01:23]
mircea_popescu i think that's how business used to fail [01:23]
thestringpuller Rockefella's aren't complaining... [01:23]
jurov i'll enumerate all the mpex interface bugs in lengthy and entertaining post [01:24]
mjr_ well, that is another thing i like about this economy and specifcally mpex...everyone is expected to be responsible for themselves [01:24]
jurov 1e20 options [01:24]
jurov phantom orders [01:24]
thestringpuller LOL [01:24]
jurov empty statjsons [01:24]
jurov php/mysql error messages [01:25]
jurov you name it [01:25]
mircea_popescu i'll pay usagi to read Strategic Risk Management to you for a week straight. [01:25]
jurov oh and i forgot double credited deposits [01:25]
jurov that i kept, of course [01:26]
mircea_popescu i should have totally had roger ver on staff, [01:26]
mircea_popescu just for that. [01:26]
thestringpuller You guys would have a fight though after about 2 weeks. [01:26]
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mircea_popescu jurov for the record, the vircures guy was listing it [01:30]
mircea_popescu 11 btc profits [01:30]
jurov vircurex? [01:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13095 @ 0.00066269 = 8.6779 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19955 @ 0.00066284 = 13.227 BTC [+] [01:30]
mircea_popescu ya [01:32]
jurov oh, and *if* i go IPO [01:32]
thestringpuller coinbr should stay private [01:32]
jurov i'll do it on bitfunder. just from spite [01:32]
thestringpuller :D [01:32]
Namworld Why not BTCT.co [01:32]
Namworld I like BTCT.co [01:33]
mircea_popescu why do you spite ukto ?! [01:33]
Namworld I don't [01:33]
Namworld I just prefer BTCT.co first [01:33]
jurov i can operate btct and cryptostocks passthroughs [01:33]
Namworld actually, MPEx>BTCT.co>Bitfunder [01:33]
jurov heard passthroughs are cool [01:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1132 @ 0.00066284 = 0.7503 BTC [+] [01:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4518 @ 0.00066466 = 3.0029 BTC [+] [01:34]
Namworld cryptostock is a joke [01:34]
mircea_popescu Namworld i didn't mean you. i meant him. list on there just out of spite [01:34]
Namworld oh [01:34]
jurov cause i can tyrannize ukto with special functionality requests [01:35]
jurov unlike MP [01:36]
thestringpuller tyrannize? [01:36]
jurov he had to add few things to bf for my assets to work [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5482 @ 0.00066466 = 3.6437 BTC [+] [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00067028 = 2.6811 BTC [+] [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10963 @ 0.00067229 = 7.3703 BTC [+] [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00067294 = 4.7106 BTC [+] [01:37]
gesell nice, twitter got hacked due to ruby on rails [01:37]
mircea_popescu ukto is basically a masochist, he's just looking for more things to implement [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00067481 = 1.2821 BTC [+] [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.0006749 = 10.5622 BTC [+] [01:37]
jurov lol [01:37]
gesell 200k users compromised [01:37]
mircea_popescu when that guy from bitmillions ShaTwo was here, ukto was all "omg i was working on implementing that" [01:37]
mircea_popescu i think he's working on implementing a bitcoin-based c compiler too [01:37]
ShaTwo here [01:37]
mircea_popescu o hai. [01:38]
ShaTwo No, I am working in a Bitcoin Node in CoffeeScript [01:38]
mircea_popescu not you. ukto. [01:39]
ShaTwo Ahh.. ok [01:39]
ShaTwo Ruby and Rails is a very bad choise [01:39]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: a bitcoin-based c compiler? [01:39]
thestringpuller how does that work? [01:39]
mircea_popescu yeah, ror is about as bad an idea as java [01:40]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller now that i dunno. [01:40]
mircea_popescu merkle tree compiler objects or some shit [01:40]
thestringpuller ... [01:40]
thestringpuller ..... [01:40]
thestringpuller ....... [01:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00067553 = 4.2221 BTC [+] [01:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4504 @ 0.00067746 = 3.0513 BTC [+] [01:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6696 @ 0.00067748 = 4.5364 BTC [+] [01:41]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [01:42]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.50002, Best ask: 19.64594, Bid-ask spread: 0.14592, Last trade: 19.50000, 24 hour volume: 80815.43101719, 24 hour low: 18.00000, 24 hour high: 20.60000, 24 hour vwap: 19.47478 [01:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10924 @ 0.00067526 = 7.3765 BTC [-] [01:42]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: movin on up, to a deluxe apartment in the sky, finally got a piece of the pie [01:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1427 @ 0.00066215 = 0.9449 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00066215 = 2.9797 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13296 @ 0.00066214 = 8.8038 BTC [-] [01:46]
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smickles !ticker m s.mpoe [01:55]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064676 / 0.00066678 / 0.00068038 (2261829 shares, 1,508.16 BTC), 7D: 0.00063335 / 0.00066174 / 0.0006921 (12850846 shares, 8,503.95 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065757 / 0.0007 (55193692 shares, 36,293.80 BTC) [01:55]
jurov smickles, teh script still not working? [02:01]
jurov no i take back, got it ;) [02:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.008 = 3.2 BTC [+] [02:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 233 @ 0.008 = 1.864 BTC [+] [02:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.8 = 8 BTC [+] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 878 @ 0.00067153 = 0.5896 BTC [+] [02:17]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [02:18]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.007148 / 0.00737041 / 0.007395 (115802 shares, 853.51 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00732076 / 0.00749999 (596803 shares, 4,369.05 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00490917 / 0.0075 (6480913 shares, 31,815.93 BTC) [02:18]
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mircea_popescu !ticker h sdice [02:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.75670000 / 0.78370988 / 0.88000000 (357 shares, 279.78442750 BTC), 7D: 0.56110000 / 0.74968829 / 0.89000000 (1487 shares, 1114.78649361 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.55886946 / 0.89000000 (6445 shares, 3601.91367845 BTC) [02:18]
mircea_popescu !ticker btctc gsdpt sdice [02:18]
assbot [BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.0075 / 0.0079 / 0.008 (2807 shares, 22.2 BTC), 7D: 0.0069 / 0.01 / 0.008 (19655 shares, 147.9 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.008 (45197 shares, 289.8 BTC) [02:18]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.88000000 / 0.007395 [02:19]
gribble 118.999323867 [02:19]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.78370988 / 0.00737041 [02:19]
gribble 106.331924547 [02:19]
thestringpuller and they yell at me for tickering all the time :P [02:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1208 @ 0.00067748 = 0.8184 BTC [+] [02:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067834 = 2.9311 BTC [+] [02:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067557 = 2.9191 BTC [-] [02:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.00067546 = 6.1325 BTC [-] [02:24]
mircea_popescu :p [02:26]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [10:22]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades [10:22]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012 [10:22]
error4733 +200 div [10:23]
Namworld more with past months [10:23]
mircea_popescu how goes [10:23]
mjr_ i built a fun bot that tries to market make [10:23]
error4733 7600*20$ [10:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1580 @ 0.007395 = 11.6841 BTC [+] [10:23]
error4733 150K$ [10:23]
error4733 ... [10:24]
Namworld yup error... [10:24]
mircea_popescu mjr_ which exchanges ? [10:24]
mjr_ just mpex data so far [10:24]
mjr_ spread is crazy on sdice [10:24]
mjr_ 5.58% [10:24]
mircea_popescu o, you arbing the pts ? [10:24]
mjr_ nah just sdice right now, though i can plug in any symbol and it will check it for spreads greater than fees [10:25]
mjr_ also mpoe...but only with .541 % [10:25]
mjr_ can barely squeeze a profit there [10:25]
mjr_ https://mega.co.nz/#!okpFSZ7B!cuclFyKX_j1C-Ub7LJoeRHM2OzREhD6camzHMQ60gnY [10:25]
mjr_ and this is only the scanning calculating part of it [10:26]
mjr_ i need an order interface [10:26]
mjr_ but can't find out how to do that on coinbr [10:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006738 = 2.9115 BTC [+] [10:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140 @ 0.00067379 = 0.0943 BTC [-] [10:28]
mjr_ if i can build a somewhat abstract order interface, then i could put it on multiple exchanges...which would be nice [10:29]
mjr_ havelock seems to have different prices on s.dice [10:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 669 @ 0.00067745 = 0.4532 BTC [+] [10:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1126 @ 0.00067861 = 0.7641 BTC [+] [10:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068168 = 2.9455 BTC [+] [10:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7312 @ 0.00068169 = 4.9845 BTC [+] [10:31]
mjr_ mpoe up to 1.17% [10:31]
mjr_ if anyone wants my code to play around with it, they are welcome to it [10:32]
error4733 wrong degree... [10:36]
mjr_ just disappeared [10:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00068152 = 2.0105 BTC [-] [10:37]
mjr_ back now at .5% is that wrong? [10:37]
mircea_popescu what's wrong ? [10:41]
mjr_ oh, error said wrong degree [10:43]
mjr_ so i wasn't sure if i was calculating the spread correctly [10:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067398 = 2.9123 BTC [-] [10:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12579 @ 0.00067379 = 8.4756 BTC [-] [10:46]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.00067379 / 0.00067745 [10:46]
gribble 0.994597387261 [10:46]
mircea_popescu looks like .5 to me [10:46]
mjr_ that's really weird [10:46]
mjr_ anyway, i think i did it right [10:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11058 @ 0.0006754 = 7.4686 BTC [+] [10:50]
error4733 *school degrees [10:52]
error4733 sorry [10:52]
mjr_ what was your degree in? [10:53]
mjr_ mine was business admin [10:53]
mircea_popescu philosophy. [10:55]
mjr_ that is a great degree [10:55]
mjr_ math is very philosophical now [10:55]
error4733 the wrong degrees [10:56]
Namworld SatoshiDice is slow [10:57]
error4733 you'r soo stupid at 18 years, why we have to choose a such important think like a futur at this stupid age [10:57]
mircea_popescu heh who told you you're "choosing yoiur future" [10:57]
Namworld to return my transactions [10:58]
error4733 touche [10:58]
Namworld I probably didn't win anyway =P [10:58]
error4733 you play SD ? [10:58]
error4733 thanks for this good month [10:58]
mjr_ it actually works out ok i think [10:58]
Namworld I haven't played in month [10:58]
Namworld and had like half a BTC [10:58]
Namworld months* [10:59]
mjr_ usually you never do what you went to school for [10:59]
Namworld in my gambling addy [10:59]
mjr_ ooh sdice finally dropping [10:59]
mjr_ down to 2.92% [10:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00718504 = 6.8258 BTC [-] [10:59]
mjr_ i mean spread [10:59]
mjr_ lol did i beat assbot? [11:00]
error4733 do u try out BitMillions ? [11:00]
Namworld I used the dice with the best long term return odds [11:00]
error4733 haha [11:00]
Namworld the 98.156% one xD [11:00]
mjr_ hahaha [11:00]
Namworld The dice you never win [11:01]
error4733 the best ood is mine [11:01]
error4733 just buy some share but never play [11:01]
error4733 *odds *bought [11:02]
Namworld oh, yeah [11:02]
error4733 definitly not a english degree... [11:02]
Namworld That's good too [11:02]
mjr_ hey namworld, how do you place orders through coinbr? [11:03]
Namworld I have no idea [11:03]
mjr_ do they have an api? i signed up but i can't find anything [11:03]
Namworld No idea [11:03]
Namworld ask jurov [11:03]
mjr_ i've been waiting for him... [11:04]
Namworld I never touched coinbr [11:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21849 @ 0.0006754 = 14.7568 BTC [+] [11:04]
mjr_ btctc.co [11:04]
error4733 Q. How do I do short trades with CoinBr? [11:05]
error4733 MPEx offers support for short trading/market making futures and options, using MKFUT/MKOPT/SPLIT commands. There is no GUI on CoinBr for them yet, but we'll do it for you when asked over e-mail or IRC. Only MPEx fee, if any, will be asked atm. [11:05]
error4733 « Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 01:34:42 PM by CoinBr » [11:05]
mjr_ yeah, i wasn't planning on those orders [11:05]
mjr_ just simple buy orders [11:05]
error4733 http://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/frequently-asked-questions/?PHPSESSID=md5c8c2lr382ub31vpbtg7dl86 [11:05]
Namworld Ok, off for a bit [11:06]
mjr_ that's whats weird...i don't see any gui for orders, but maybe they dynamically turn that on once funds arrive? [11:06]
mjr_ have a good one namworld [11:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9432 @ 0.0006754 = 6.3704 BTC [+] [11:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 868 @ 0.00067379 = 0.5848 BTC [-] [11:07]
Bowjov jjticker [11:09]
Bowjov ;;ticker [11:10]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.90002, Best ask: 19.98898, Bid-ask spread: 0.08896, Last trade: 19.90001, 24 hour volume: 41906.77847932, 24 hour low: 18.70000, 24 hour high: 20.20000, 24 hour vwap: 19.69482 [11:10]
mircea_popescu mjr_ why not talk straight to mpex tho ? [11:10]
mjr_ believe me i plan on it [11:10]
mjr_ as soon as i can i will be registering [11:11]
mjr_ but until then i figured i would just go through jurov [11:11]
mircea_popescu ya but i don't think he's actually implemented an api [11:11]
mjr_ oh.... [11:11]
mircea_popescu on account of it being silly to have a long api pipe [11:11]
mjr_ yeah true [11:11]
mjr_ well i mean, i wouldn't mind if he just passed through [11:11]
mircea_popescu i think coinbr is more intended to help the people who want to trade on a website/don't want to handle computer guts [11:12]
mircea_popescu such as apis or gpgs [11:12]
mjr_ after all, he is just sending it with a slight markup on fee, and he really only needs to keep track of that on his end [11:12]
mjr_ i agree and i don't mind dealing with gpg and any other computer related thing [11:12]
mjr_ but i can't afford registration yet [11:12]
mjr_ so once i can, i will be on there [11:12]
mjr_ soon enough i hope [11:13]
mircea_popescu hm. i guess you might actually be in a crack [11:13]
Bowjov by then mp might jack the price to 35 btc :2 [11:13]
mircea_popescu or 50. [11:13]
mjr_ that's ok [11:13]
mjr_ it'll still be worth it for a long time i think [11:13]
Bowjov is there a way to sell mpex account? [11:13]
mjr_ you'd have to give up gpg ident [11:13]
mjr_ i believe [11:14]
mjr_ and that is if it's allowed [11:14]
error4733 Is there some way I could be an affiliate ? [11:14]
error4733 Sure. If you already have an account and someone mentions your keyid when they sign up for a new account each of you will be credited 5 BTC. Simple as pie. [11:14]
error4733 you just need 25BTC for start ;) [11:14]
mjr_ true [11:14]
mjr_ so that is approx...$500 [11:14]
Bowjov i dont wanna deal with that stuff.. that guy who fat fingered about 70k USD on dice [11:15]
mjr_ another 10 btc to fund the account (that is the minimum right?) [11:15]
Bowjov yeah [11:15]
mjr_ so $700 to get started... [11:15]
Bowjov well a bit more than 10btc since you need some numbers [11:15]
mircea_popescu mjr_ nah. the minimum deposit is 10 btc [11:15]
Bowjov to identify [11:15]
mircea_popescu if you make a 30 btc deposit that's clearly over the 10 btc limit [11:15]
mjr_ oh, i thought that was a fee [11:16]
mircea_popescu then if you are referred tyou get 5 back so you have a little to trade on [11:16]
mircea_popescu ya it is a fee, but taken out of your first deposit [11:16]
mjr_ ah i see [11:16]
mjr_ cool [11:16]
mjr_ well i think i may be able to do it [11:16]
mjr_ tough on the 1st of the month, but i figure it will be worth it [11:16]
mjr_ amazing the spread on these puts [11:17]
mircea_popescu ya, the spread on the options has been a point of discussion since about october 2011 [11:17]
mircea_popescu "wow huge spreads!" [11:17]
mircea_popescu "so go midmarket." [11:17]
mircea_popescu "umm... hm. eh. nm." [11:18]
error4733 finish him, run some simulation and time will see ! [11:18]
mjr_ yeah...i'll just go a satoshi inside of both sides [11:18]
mjr_ that is what i don't get [11:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00067737 = 1.7273 BTC [+] [11:18]
mjr_ someone would usually do that [11:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006821 = 2.9474 BTC [+] [11:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1980 @ 0.00068169 = 1.3497 BTC [-] [11:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 749 @ 0.00068211 = 0.5109 BTC [+] [11:18]
mjr_ and then someone else would jump in front of him [11:18]
mjr_ mpoe just jumped back on my radar :) [11:18]
ahdinosaur ;;asks 19.9999 [11:21]
gribble There are currently 7.9857751 bitcoins offered at or under 19.9999 USD, worth 159.627578416 USD in total. [11:21]
mjr_ so question, do you send back an ack type message? [11:21]
mjr_ after successful order [11:21]
mjr_ or do you have to stat [11:21]
mircea_popescu you get a signed "your order to x was received" [11:22]
mircea_popescu to see execution you have to either watch reporting or stat [11:22]
mjr_ cool [11:22]
mjr_ reporting being the json right? [11:22]
mircea_popescu no, reporting being rss, twitter or here [11:24]
mjr_ oh cool [11:25]
mircea_popescu stat being stat or statjson [11:25]
mjr_ but you have to send statjson command signed by pgp [11:25]
mircea_popescu ya [11:25]
mjr_ ok cool [11:25]
error4733 late today i'll ask my friend to look on your code ! he coul'd be interested [11:25]
mircea_popescu stats tell you details about your acct specifically. [11:25]
mjr_ i think it could be nice [11:25]
mjr_ my code, and yeah, i figured it was like a summary [11:26]
mircea_popescu reporting is global, but if you know you just ordered 5k of s.blabla and 4k trade at your price [11:26]
mircea_popescu you know you got filled for 4k or something likethat [11:26]
mjr_ ah ok [11:26]
mjr_ so i will diff [11:26]
mjr_ and keep track [11:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1464 @ 0.00068207 = 0.9986 BTC [-] [11:26]
mjr_ the cool thing about the code, is that it takes into account volume somewhat [11:26]
mjr_ and its still pretty rough [11:26]
mjr_ but you can't jump in front unless you put small volume [11:27]
mjr_ in which case i want to be behind at the next price level [11:27]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1499501#msg1499501 usagi is totally cool [11:27]
error4733 haha [11:27]
error4733 0.5 [11:27]
mircea_popescu "This is a difficult concept for new or inexperienced investors to grasp" [11:27]
error4733 he's on crack [11:27]
mircea_popescu end quote. [11:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.0006742 = 1.9552 BTC [-] [11:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00067404 = 1.4829 BTC [-] [11:28]
mircea_popescu the funny thing is tho... i don't think .8 sort of insanity is TOTALLY off the table on a 1-2 year span [11:28]
mircea_popescu then again, 0.0 isn't totally off the table on those sorts of intervals either. [11:28]
mircea_popescu heck, btc may fail by 2015 [11:28]
error4733 go big or go home [11:29]
mircea_popescu i can sort-of see some large player going 50-100mn for satoshidice [11:30]
mircea_popescu if that happens when btc is in the teens it may well be something like 0.x oper share [11:30]
error4733 ok, me too. be we're still far away from 0.8 [11:30]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [11:31]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.00732547 / 0.007395 (84338 shares, 617.82 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00731809 / 0.00749999 (638455 shares, 4,672.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00496255 / 0.0075 (6355965 shares, 31,541.85 BTC) [11:31]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.8*732547*20 [11:31]
gribble 11720752 [11:31]
mjr_ basically the entire economy right now [11:31]
mjr_ lol [11:32]
mircea_popescu um wtf [11:32]
mjr_ wasn't that number in btc [11:32]
mircea_popescu i fucked it uyp lol [11:32]
mjr_ ah ok [11:32]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.8*100000000*20 [11:32]
gribble 1600000000 [11:32]
mircea_popescu ya if it were .8 now that'd value s.dice at 1.6bn [11:32]
mircea_popescu seems untenable. [11:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8743 @ 0.00068211 = 5.9637 BTC [+] [11:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2857 @ 0.00068207 = 1.9487 BTC [-] [11:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.0074 = 0.0518 BTC [-] [11:32]
error4733 yep [11:32]
mircea_popescu course... fb sold for 100bn [11:32]
mircea_popescu equally untenable. [11:32]
error4733 0.08 seem more realistic [11:33]
mjr_ yes and insta for one billion [11:33]
mircea_popescu error4733 tbh .0075 or w/e seems the most realistic atm :) [11:33]
mjr_ i guess [11:33]
mjr_ i don't know about growth [11:33]
mjr_ but finding a yield like that is tough [11:33]
error4733 anyway, i hold ALL my S.dice [11:35]
mjr_ i think .01 by the end of the year [11:35]
Namworld I'd say so too. 0.0075 seems nice at the moment [11:35]
mjr_ which is great growth, and great return [11:35]
Namworld There's always the risk of betting on SD going down [11:35]
Namworld It remains that S.DICE has risk like anything else. 0.0075 is good to me. [11:36]
mjr_ the risk of betting on it and it going down, or the risk of betting on it going down [11:36]
mjr_ well [11:37]
mjr_ it depends on your outlook [11:37]
mjr_ and i for one am guessing that you guys are into bitcoins [11:37]
mjr_ in which case, unless the shares go to 0...you still have appreciation [11:37]
Namworld If shares drop, that might still be less than if we kept Bitcoins alone. [11:38]
mircea_popescu that's the important part for many people i guess [11:38]
mircea_popescu with rewards going down and diff going up, [11:38]
mircea_popescu btc revenue streams increase in value [11:38]
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mjr_ yeah [11:38]
mjr_ you will get btc from dividends [11:38]
mjr_ so it would be hard for you to have less btc than when you started, not impossible [11:39]
mjr_ but hard [11:39]
mjr_ i am gonna mix it up a bit [11:39]
mjr_ some bonds from namworld, some mpoe and some s.dice [11:39]
Namworld thanks [11:40]
mircea_popescu it's always good to mix. [11:40]
error4733 read the FAQ before buying MPOE haha [11:41]
mjr_ i did [11:42]
mjr_ it looks good [11:42]
mjr_ and yes [11:42]
error4733 [joke] i got some [11:42]
mjr_ i wil make sure to send it to the right addresss [11:42]
mjr_ the signifigant digits [11:42]
Namworld I have a founder and CEO of a company in the financial sector as the top holder of my BTC-BOND [11:42]
Namworld I found it somewhat odd. [11:42]
mjr_ nice [11:42]
mjr_ i don't [11:42]
mircea_popescu why odd ? [11:42]
mjr_ 10% is unheard of for a bond [11:42]
mjr_ right now at least [11:42]
mjr_ one that you will actually get the money back [11:42]
mjr_ .5% is like bond rates now [11:43]
Namworld Odd because BTC-BOND is a small thing lost in the middle of tons of larger offers. [11:43]
mjr_ yeah [11:43]
Namworld and Bitcoins to top it. I wasn't expecting someone from the financial sector to find his way to my little thing. [11:44]
error4733 your brother-in-law ? [11:44]
Namworld I would have expected for S.DICE and such, someone putting a few 10k for fun. [11:44]
Namworld error: no, complete stranger [11:45]
Namworld BTCT.co sends a list of holders every 12 hours [11:45]
Namworld I thought at first someone filled an email that was not his [11:45]
Namworld Ended up being genuine. [11:46]
mircea_popescu Namworld maybe they just want to watch you at work, learn about btc etc. [11:46]
Namworld My contract state it's a personal loan, that can be spent on whatever I see fit. [11:47]
mircea_popescu so ? [11:47]
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Namworld I disbursed an extra coupon when I did good option trades. The guy didn't seem to know I was trading actively. [11:48]
Namworld Other than I kept stocks collateral on GLBSE for the loan. [11:48]
Bowjov 3 million bitcoins won already ho lee schitt! [11:49]
mjr_ question [11:49]
Bowjov http://satoshidice.com/ [11:49]
error4733 ? [11:49]
mjr_ do you have a limited number of bonds? [11:49]
mjr_ or would you just increase your holdings to accept more [11:49]
Namworld 50000 bonds for now (500 BTC) [11:49]
Namworld I'm not sure I want to manage more funds... [11:50]
mjr_ yeah i get you [11:51]
mjr_ just curious [11:51]
Namworld Not as a loan at least. [11:51]
mircea_popescu having a cap is a great saferty play, and one the various wannabe managers in the past eschewed to their detriment. [11:51]
mircea_popescu if they did have caps for all their pirate stuff they wouldn't be quite as in the pits today [11:51]
Namworld If they had a cap higher than 0 for pirate stuff I don't quite see why they'd deserve holding even a bitcent... [11:52]
mircea_popescu Namworld if they did, I personally insure this thing, but it never takes more than 100 btc [11:53]
mircea_popescu THEN they could have just paid out of pocket and closed cleanly. [11:53]
mircea_popescu they did I personally insure and there's no cap. [11:53]
mircea_popescu well... [11:53]
mircea_popescu that doesn't work so good. [11:53]
Namworld yeah [11:54]
Namworld Although I could always manage funds on another basis than a loan [11:55]
Namworld Where I'd get a smaller cut [11:55]
mircea_popescu maybe there'd be a taste for more reward/more risk [11:55]
mircea_popescu but even so, caps are almost always a good idea. [11:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2121 @ 0.00067404 = 1.4296 BTC [-] [11:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10054 @ 0.00067379 = 6.7743 BTC [-] [11:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00067186 = 7.3233 BTC [-] [11:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067001 = 6.7001 BTC [-] [11:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49 @ 0.00067 = 0.0328 BTC [-] [11:55]
mircea_popescu there's so little know with certainty in btc, any added certainty is a net gain [11:55]
Namworld aye [11:56]
Namworld In any case... where are all the DMC holders? [11:56]
mircea_popescu i think actually a good way to regard manager's position is to look at added value [11:57]
Namworld Why can't all asset holders hang in here? [11:57]
mircea_popescu what does he contribute ? [11:57]
mircea_popescu the chief thing he could be contributing is certainty [11:57]
mircea_popescu Namworld i think the girl sums it up good : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140484.msg1500250#msg1500250 [11:57]
mircea_popescu hobbysts [11:57]
mjr_ yes [11:59]
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mjr_ and there goes all the spreads [12:00]
Namworld But at the size of what I do, it should be considered hobbyist work. I'm working with small sums [12:00]
mjr_ mircea_popescu: quick question about options [12:03]
mjr_ do you consider positions hedged? [12:04]
mjr_ for example if i had the put and the call [12:04]
mjr_ how would you calculate total exposure [12:04]
mjr_ or...what do you call it again? collateral needed to hold that position [12:04]
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Namworld https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc#gid=0 [12:05]
mjr_ it should be risk neutral...and all i should be able to lose is the premium i pay [12:05]
Namworld Capital required to CREATE options [12:05]
mjr_ i am not creating them [12:06]
mjr_ i am buying them [12:06]
Namworld Then why should there be any collateral? [12:06]
mjr_ so you don't need capital to buy [12:06]
Namworld If you buy an option? [12:06]
mjr_ not sure, i thought it was weird [12:06]
mjr_ but i always heard people talking about collateral with their options [12:07]
mjr_ i just want to buy put and call [12:07]
mjr_ but the same theory holds... [12:07]
Namworld The creator puts collateral and sell the option at less than its redeem value in the hope of a profit. [12:07]
mjr_ if i sell the put and i sell the call [12:07]
mjr_ i should be in a risk neutral position [12:07]
Namworld The buyer pays that premium, and stand to eat that collateral or get nothing [12:07]
Namworld The collateral is usually much larger than the sale price [12:08]
mjr_ short straddle is what it is called... [12:08]
Namworld If you sold puts and calls, you could still lose [12:08]
mjr_ you could lose, but limited [12:08]
Namworld If price swayed a lot in one direction [12:08]
mjr_ yes, that is the point of them [12:08]
Namworld yup [12:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068194 = 3.4097 BTC [+] [12:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068195 = 2.9467 BTC [+] [12:09]
Namworld Use my Google Spreadsheets stuff. Just handy. [12:09]
mjr_ i like long straddle [12:09]
mjr_ yeah i like it [12:09]
mjr_ or strangle [12:09]
mjr_ i have been trying to do some simulations and modeling of weighting the strike prices differently to find the best mid of risk, cost, and profit [12:10]
mjr_ like say i had call put at 20, call at 21, put at 19 [12:10]
mjr_ how much should i weight the inner straddle vs the outer strangle [12:11]
mjr_ because the straddle will cost the most [12:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00067593 = 2.2644 BTC [-] [12:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006702 = 2.8959 BTC [-] [12:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067007 = 2.8954 BTC [-] [12:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258 @ 0.00067 = 0.1729 BTC [-] [12:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068181 = 2.9461 BTC [+] [12:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1621 @ 0.00068211 = 1.1057 BTC [+] [12:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1847 @ 0.00068211 = 1.2599 BTC [+] [12:16]
mjr_ ok i am gonna get some sleep [12:17]
mjr_ good night everyone [12:17]
Namworld Hmm, I shall do the same I suppose [12:19]
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mircea_popescu mjr_ do you know how the bot works at all ? [12:26]
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mircea_popescu aw lol too late. [12:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5528 @ 0.00067985 = 3.7582 BTC [-] [12:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00738112 = 13.286 BTC [+] [13:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067202 = 2.9038 BTC [-] [13:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4122 @ 0.00067985 = 2.8023 BTC [+] [13:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 757 @ 0.00067195 = 0.5087 BTC [-] [13:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006722 = 2.9046 BTC [+] [13:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11829 @ 0.00067195 = 7.9485 BTC [-] [13:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1814 @ 0.00067195 = 1.2189 BTC [-] [13:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00067002 = 0.6365 BTC [-] [13:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3764 @ 0.00067002 = 2.522 BTC [-] [13:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067001 = 3.3501 BTC [-] [13:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27881 @ 0.00067 = 18.6803 BTC [-] [13:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1206 @ 0.00068202 = 0.8225 BTC [+] [13:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00067 = 42.21 BTC [-] [13:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00067 = 3.216 BTC [-] [13:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3115 @ 0.00068202 = 2.1245 BTC [+] [13:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006821 = 6.821 BTC [+] [13:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13653 @ 0.00068211 = 9.3128 BTC [+] [13:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4530 @ 0.0006833 = 3.0953 BTC [+] [13:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067444 = 2.9143 BTC [-] [13:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12174 @ 0.00067412 = 8.2067 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00067999 = 4.5559 BTC [+] [13:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4226 @ 0.00067412 = 2.8488 BTC [-] [13:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5541 @ 0.00067 = 3.7125 BTC [-] [13:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2 @ 0.00066855 = 0.0013 BTC [-] [13:50]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.0079 = 1.975 BTC [+] [13:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9998 @ 0.00066855 = 6.6842 BTC [-] [13:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2852 @ 0.00066854 = 1.9067 BTC [-] [13:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00066854 = 2.0056 BTC [-] [13:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 234 @ 0.00738112 = 1.7272 BTC [+] [13:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9466 @ 0.007186 = 68.0227 BTC [-] [13:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00718504 = 2.1555 BTC [-] [13:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00066854 = 5.8832 BTC [-] [14:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.007395 = 0.074 BTC [+] [14:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9990 @ 0.007395 = 73.8761 BTC [+] [14:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2724 @ 0.0006832 = 1.861 BTC [+] [14:10]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0076 BTC [-] [14:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1837 @ 0.00066854 = 1.2281 BTC [-] [14:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1863 @ 0.00066733 = 1.2432 BTC [-] [14:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066734 = 6.6734 BTC [+] [14:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5006 @ 0.00066958 = 3.3519 BTC [+] [14:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1597 @ 0.0006832 = 1.0911 BTC [+] [14:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12154 @ 0.0006833 = 8.3048 BTC [+] [14:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006831 = 2.9517 BTC [-] [14:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1112 @ 0.0006833 = 0.7598 BTC [+] [14:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1725 @ 0.00068331 = 1.1787 BTC [+] [14:29]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.81 = 4.05 BTC [-] [14:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.81 = 4.05 BTC [-] [14:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [-] [14:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00068039 = 1.803 BTC [-] [14:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1656 @ 0.00068331 = 1.1316 BTC [+] [14:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1671 @ 0.00068039 = 1.1369 BTC [-] [14:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4029 @ 0.00068023 = 2.7406 BTC [-] [14:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068308 = 2.9516 BTC [+] [14:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29246 @ 0.00068331 = 19.9841 BTC [+] [14:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2933 @ 0.00068334 = 2.0042 BTC [+] [14:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+] [15:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068043 = 2.9401 BTC [-] [15:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.00068023 = 3.3869 BTC [-] [15:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068317 = 2.952 BTC [+] [15:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7347 @ 0.00068334 = 5.0205 BTC [+] [15:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 293 @ 0.00068334 = 0.2002 BTC [+] [15:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7408 @ 0.00068335 = 5.0623 BTC [+] [15:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 526 @ 0.0076 = 3.9976 BTC [-] [15:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5641 @ 0.00068023 = 3.8372 BTC [-] [15:21]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0076 = 0.0228 BTC [-] [15:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066734 = 2.8836 BTC [-] [15:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13137 @ 0.00066733 = 8.7667 BTC [-] [15:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 842 @ 0.00066732 = 0.5619 BTC [-] [15:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067424 = 2.9134 BTC [+] [15:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10365 @ 0.00067425 = 6.9886 BTC [+] [15:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066738 = 2.8837 BTC [-] [15:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066738 = 2.8837 BTC [-] [15:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066733 = 6.6733 BTC [-] [15:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5558 @ 0.00066732 = 3.709 BTC [-] [15:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4194 @ 0.00067425 = 2.8278 BTC [+] [16:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068294 = 2.951 BTC [+] [16:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4885 @ 0.00068295 = 3.3362 BTC [+] [16:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.79811111 = 7.9811 BTC [-] [16:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [+] [16:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.82 = 2.46 BTC [+] [16:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066733 = 2.8835 BTC [-] [16:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066733 = 6.6733 BTC [-] [16:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7720 @ 0.00066732 = 5.1517 BTC [-] [16:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066733 = 2.8835 BTC [+] [16:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1829 @ 0.00066732 = 1.2205 BTC [-] [16:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1662 @ 0.0076 = 12.6312 BTC [-] [16:34]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1562 @ 0.0076 = 11.8712 BTC [-] [16:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5205 @ 0.0006823 = 3.5514 BTC [+] [16:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068283 = 2.9505 BTC [+] [16:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6624 @ 0.00068295 = 4.5239 BTC [+] [16:41]
Anduck !ticker mpex s.dice [16:41]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.0073198 / 0.007395 (103771 shares, 759.58 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00731703 / 0.00749999 (650155 shares, 4,757.20 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.004984 / 0.0075 (6312291 shares, 31,460.47 BTC) [16:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-] [16:42]
Bowjov Damn. My Ipod went thru the washer [16:47]
Bowjov RIP [16:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006819 = 2.9465 BTC [-] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00068202 = 7.5704 BTC [+] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.00068295 = 2.8848 BTC [+] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1755 @ 0.00068309 = 1.1988 BTC [+] [16:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00730924 = 10.5984 BTC [-] [16:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00068003 = 5.3722 BTC [-] [16:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2047 @ 0.00068299 = 1.3981 BTC [+] [16:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 999 @ 0.00739499 = 7.3876 BTC [+] [17:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2527 @ 0.00067071 = 1.6949 BTC [-] [17:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0244 = 0.244 BTC [-] [17:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0244 = 0.244 BTC [-] [17:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 125 @ 0.0245 = 3.0625 BTC [+] [17:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2274 @ 0.00068299 = 1.5531 BTC [+] [17:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9126 @ 0.00068309 = 6.2339 BTC [+] [17:09]
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thestringpuller The neurosurgeon returns [17:12]
Bugpowder Yo [17:12]
thestringpuller give me s.dice as a present [17:13]
thestringpuller jkjk [17:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.0076 = 1.9 BTC [-] [17:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10963 @ 0.00068309 = 7.4887 BTC [+] [17:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00068156 = 2.4195 BTC [-] [17:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 573 @ 0.00067527 = 0.3869 BTC [-] [17:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2827 @ 0.00066756 = 1.8872 BTC [-] [17:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1494 @ 0.00066756 = 0.9973 BTC [-] [17:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4086 @ 0.00066732 = 2.7267 BTC [-] [17:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0076 = 0.38 BTC [-] [17:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067566 = 2.9195 BTC [+] [17:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6619 @ 0.00067597 = 4.4742 BTC [+] [17:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3060 @ 0.00068053 = 2.0824 BTC [+] [17:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2826 @ 0.00068053 = 1.9232 BTC [+] [17:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7274 @ 0.00068129 = 4.9557 BTC [+] [17:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 743 @ 0.00739499 = 5.4945 BTC [+] [18:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006753 = 2.918 BTC [-] [18:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068101 = 2.9426 BTC [+] [18:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5193 @ 0.00068129 = 3.5379 BTC [+] [18:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00067543 = 4.5929 BTC [-] [18:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.0006752 = 0.3376 BTC [-] [18:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3821 @ 0.0006752 = 2.5799 BTC [-] [18:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29979 @ 0.00067499 = 20.2355 BTC [-] [18:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067514 = 2.9173 BTC [+] [18:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9879 @ 0.00067499 = 6.6682 BTC [-] [18:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068108 = 2.9429 BTC [+] [18:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7329 @ 0.00068129 = 4.9932 BTC [+] [18:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068103 = 2.9427 BTC [-] [18:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.00068129 = 6.1854 BTC [+] [18:40]
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thestringpuller kakobreklaaa: Does BBET make "house bets"? [18:59]
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smickles ;;ticker [19:05]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.95222, Best ask: 19.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04777, Last trade: 19.99999, 24 hour volume: 27460.22150849, 24 hour low: 19.31000, 24 hour high: 20.20000, 24 hour vwap: 19.88694 [19:05]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [19:05]
gribble 19.86 [19:05]
Anduck thestringpuller: u cant know [19:06]
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mjr_ hey bugpowder [19:07]
mjr_ i built a cool little thing [19:07]
mjr_ https://mega.co.nz/#!okpFSZ7B!cuclFyKX_j1C-Ub7LJoeRHM2OzREhD6camzHMQ60gnY [19:07]
mjr_ here's a link [19:07]
mircea_popescu hey, anyone want to charge 10 bux on his cc for me ? [19:07]
mircea_popescu ill pay btc. [19:07]
mjr_ bugpowder: you can check out my code if you want... https://mega.co.nz/#!pgJVRTIK!eZas-A-jyC2W0B6BYT43fn-GdjdmMAw7jyB5ckh-AZI [19:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3393 @ 0.00068129 = 2.3116 BTC [+] [19:09]
kakobreklaaa thestringpuller yes [19:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 256 @ 0.00068309 = 0.1749 BTC [+] [19:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4844 @ 0.00068335 = 3.3101 BTC [+] [19:12]
Bugpowder that script looks exploitable. [19:14]
Bugpowder possibly [19:15]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [19:17]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.10331, Best ask: 20.23999, Bid-ask spread: 0.13668, Last trade: 20.24000, 24 hour volume: 29151.83119077, 24 hour low: 19.31000, 24 hour high: 20.40000, 24 hour vwap: 19.91192 [19:17]
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Bugpowder 20.40 [19:18]
Bugpowder noice [19:18]
Bugpowder time to start the rally again. [19:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1007 @ 0.00739499 = 7.4468 BTC [+] [19:19]
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Bugpowder mjr_ oh nevermind that script doesn't actually place trades, just provides info. [19:23]
Bugpowder Cool. [19:23]
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Bugpowder I'm taking a break from bot dev for a few weeks. I had good news in the job hunt process and need to devote 99% of my attention there. [19:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068147 = 2.9446 BTC [-] [19:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16079 @ 0.00068131 = 10.9548 BTC [-] [19:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1526 @ 0.00739499 = 11.2848 BTC [+] [19:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.794 = 7.94 BTC [-] [19:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7945 = 3.178 BTC [+] [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7945 BTC [+] [19:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068327 = 2.9524 BTC [+] [19:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068334 = 3.4167 BTC [+] [19:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7499 @ 0.00068335 = 5.1244 BTC [+] [19:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.795 = 3.18 BTC [+] [19:41]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [19:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.50000, Best ask: 20.52884, Bid-ask spread: 0.02884, Last trade: 20.55000, 24 hour volume: 31309.07006435, 24 hour low: 19.31000, 24 hour high: 20.60000, 24 hour vwap: 19.96266 [19:44]
Bugpowder OH YEAH [19:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 740 @ 0.00068131 = 0.5042 BTC [-] [19:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00067621 = 2.8739 BTC [-] [19:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000675 = 2.9167 BTC [-] [19:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9840 @ 0.00067499 = 6.6419 BTC [-] [19:47]
mjr_ bugpowder: i need to set up an interface [19:51]
mjr_ i think it would be relatively easy to give it that logic and use pympex [19:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3155 @ 0.00067523 = 2.1304 BTC [+] [19:51]
mjr_ then just keep track of your orders using statjson i guess [19:51]
mircea_popescu is it 50 yet ? [19:52]
mjr_ but since i don't have mpex yet i can't test it out [19:52]
mjr_ but you are welcome to, or anyone else [19:53]
mjr_ it works best late at night (not sure about timezone stuff) [19:53]
Bugpowder over 60 [19:54]
thestringpuller why is the price volatile? [19:55]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [19:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.60438, Best ask: 20.60533, Bid-ask spread: 0.00095, Last trade: 20.60438, 24 hour volume: 32384.31332794, 24 hour low: 19.31000, 24 hour high: 20.60438, 24 hour vwap: 19.98742 [19:55]
Bugpowder 20.60 [19:55]
Bugpowder that is [19:55]
mircea_popescu you know... if bitcoin was a girl 20'd be a very good place to be. [19:55]
thestringpuller I had like 4 people from school come ask me about bitcoin yesterday... [19:55]
Bugpowder YUP [19:55]
thestringpuller Also my local bar wants to accept bitcoin... [19:55]
thestringpuller bitcoin is mainstream now? [19:55]
Bugpowder not yet [19:56]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: my ip changed so your paywall is neglecting me [19:56]
thestringpuller ;) [19:56]
mircea_popescu cool. [19:57]
mircea_popescu not mainstream yet but getting sluttier by the week [19:58]
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mircea_popescu sort of like the sophomore collegiate. [19:58]
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thestringpuller wtf college did you go to? [19:59]
thestringpuller I got laid once in all of college [19:59]
thestringpuller so I feel I was lied to about the "liberal girls" [19:59]
mircea_popescu i pretty much went to whore school. [19:59]
thestringpuller and there are no little mircea's running around? [19:59]
smickles thestringpuller: you're about the same age as me, right? [19:59]
thestringpuller yea [20:00]
mircea_popescu not afaik. [20:00]
smickles hmm, how did you not get laid as much as you wanted to? [20:00]
mircea_popescu he prolly didn't ask. [20:00]
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thestringpuller too busy trying to code and make money [20:00]
thestringpuller hustling + getting laid don't go together [20:01]
thestringpuller unless you're a pimp [20:01]
thestringpuller then it's part of the business model [20:01]
smickles heh, now that I think of it, that was a fairly good pickup line. "do you want to have sex over there?" [20:01]
thestringpuller I need to go to the country towns and pick up hot farm girls. [20:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9691 @ 0.00068146 = 6.604 BTC [+] [20:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 944 @ 0.00067523 = 0.6374 BTC [-] [20:02]
mircea_popescu smickles being recently out of a shower is all the pick-up line you need [20:02]
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smickles i dunno. I often waited untill a girl complimented my hair, and that most often came after not showering for a day or so [20:03]
thestringpuller smickles: I feel like you were married in college :P [20:03]
smickles just after [20:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2049 @ 0.00068335 = 1.4002 BTC [+] [20:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068368 = 2.9542 BTC [+] [20:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 930 @ 0.00068369 = 0.6358 BTC [+] [20:06]
mircea_popescu well, in some application one day is recently. [20:07]
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thestringpuller everyone is getting married and having children [20:10]
jcpham mircea_popescu are you saying that basically being clean is sexually arousing? [20:10]
thestringpuller while I'm just here masturbating [20:11]
mircea_popescu jcpham you ever been around college dorms ? [20:11]
jcpham never ever ever [20:11]
mircea_popescu in many cases just not being filthy is sufficient competitive advantage. [20:12]
jcpham except for when i stayed in the dorms in college [20:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.79252525 = 3.9626 BTC [-] [20:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7732 @ 0.00068369 = 5.2863 BTC [+] [20:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8518 @ 0.00068398 = 5.8261 BTC [+] [20:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 222 @ 0.00067523 = 0.1499 BTC [-] [20:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.35 = 3.5 BTC [+] [20:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00067504 = 1.1476 BTC [-] [20:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000675 = 2.9167 BTC [-] [20:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2457 @ 0.00067499 = 1.6585 BTC [-] [20:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1482 @ 0.00068398 = 1.0137 BTC [+] [20:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068432 = 2.9569 BTC [+] [20:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00068433 = 4.3455 BTC [+] [20:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3147 @ 0.00068507 = 2.1559 BTC [+] [20:15]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/so-whats-the-plan-with-mpoempex/ btw, if anyone missed it. [20:19]
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jcpham i like how the citations have links to nude girls [20:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00068502 = 1.1645 BTC [-] [20:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068503 = 2.96 BTC [+] [20:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4595 @ 0.00068507 = 3.1479 BTC [+] [20:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00068507 = 1.8552 BTC [+] [20:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10210 @ 0.00068507 = 6.9946 BTC [+] [20:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.88 BTC [+] [20:31]
mircea_popescu one must have slipped in [20:31]
mircea_popescu o, you mean the salo screencap ? [20:31]
FabianB_ "It is perhaps worth nothing that various observers.." <-- i think there's a t too much in "nothing" [20:34]
mircea_popescu you mean a h [20:35]
Namworld I was about to point out the h [20:35]
mircea_popescu ty to teh both of you. fixed. [20:36]
mircea_popescu i mean te bot of you [20:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 13.88 = 27.76 BTC [+] [20:37]
Namworld the website might go? How would we know the order book? [20:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1360 @ 0.0074 = 10.064 BTC [-] [20:39]
Namworld JSON API would stay? [20:39]
mircea_popescu prolly end up with dedicated terminals [20:40]
Namworld Eh, why not keep MPEx indefinitly [20:44]
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mircea_popescu sooner or later data feeds would be leased, some sort of equivalent of bloomberg will spring up [20:47]
mircea_popescu etc. [20:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15263 @ 0.00067546 = 10.3095 BTC [-] [20:48]
mircea_popescu i have no idea, i'm speculating. [20:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00735414 = 2.2062 BTC [-] [20:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1524 @ 0.00735413 = 11.2077 BTC [-] [20:49]
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mircea_popescu http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/blog/Hantol-PSU-Fake-PFC-Made-of-cement/220 [20:58]
mircea_popescu this is pretty out there. [20:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6564 @ 0.00067546 = 4.4337 BTC [-] [21:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9790 @ 0.00068507 = 6.7068 BTC [+] [21:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5133 @ 0.0006852 = 3.5171 BTC [+] [21:02]
Ukto_ lol nice link [21:02]
mircea_popescu cement dude [21:03]
mircea_popescu the new supermaterial from china [21:03]
Ukto_ yeah, thats messed [21:03]
Ukto_ wold be pissed to pay s/h for that [21:03]
Ukto_ :P [21:03]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 120 @ 0.0245 = 2.94 BTC [+] [21:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 743 @ 0.00735413 = 5.4641 BTC [-] [21:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.0245 = 0.735 BTC [+] [21:09]
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jurov hi all [21:14]
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jurov mjr_ lol there is a front runner on mpoe for long time...it doesn't even try to conceal itself [21:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 830 @ 0.00739499 = 6.1378 BTC [+] [21:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 33 @ 0.00735413 = 0.2427 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 267 @ 0.00733496 = 1.9584 BTC [-] [21:21]
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smickles oh [21:22]
smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1499197#msg1499197 [21:22]
smickles lol [21:22]
jurov mjr_ and coinbr api isn't planned in near future, sorry. i just concluded whole thing isn't ready [21:23]
Ukto_ "Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later." [21:23]
Ukto_ cant access bitcointalk smickles :) [21:23]
smickles Ukto_: it's usagi saying that he did a fundamental anal. of s.dice, and it's worth .5 btc per share [21:24]
Ukto_ lol [21:24]
Ukto_ and your opinion of that is ? :P [21:24]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.0246 = 0.2706 BTC [+] [21:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 383 @ 0.00733496 = 2.8093 BTC [-] [21:25]
smickles that guy has a proven record of valuing bitcoind denomenated assets [21:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 470 @ 0.00728282 = 3.4229 BTC [-] [21:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 835 @ 0.0072416 = 6.0467 BTC [-] [21:25]
smickles 0 for 12, or so [21:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 17 @ 0.0247 = 0.4199 BTC [+] [21:25]
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mircea_popescu 502 Bad Gateway [21:26]
mircea_popescu forum rox [21:26]
Ukto_ same [21:26]
mircea_popescu smickles lol [21:27]
Ukto_ mircea_popescu: would be interested in your opinion when/if the forums come back [21:27]
mircea_popescu re what ? [21:27]
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Ukto_ as for sites that work. apparently someone agrees with usagi [21:28]
Ukto_ https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.SDICE [21:28]
Ukto_ look at todays trades [21:28]
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mircea_popescu what about it ? [21:29]
Ukto_ alot of traes for today [21:29]
Ukto_ for sdice [21:29]
Ukto_ volume wise [21:29]
Ukto_ the div day was one thing [21:29]
kakobreklaaa we wouldnt know cause assbot. [21:29]
Ukto_ but this is about 2x avg already [21:30]
kakobreklaaa hehe [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067506 = 2.9169 BTC [-] [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1748 @ 0.000675 = 1.1799 BTC [-] [21:30]
kakobreklaaa bbl [21:30]
Ukto_ kako: LOL [21:30]
Ukto_ dont wrry [21:30]
Ukto_ api will be opening up more soon [21:30]
kakobreklaaa what does that have to do anything with it [21:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.011 = 1.1 BTC [+] [21:30]
smickles that chart ain't half bad Ukto_ [21:30]
Ukto_ besides, I would hate to flood the channel with BF's massive trades (eyes roll) :P [21:31]
Bugpowder I will sell for 1/2 of usagi's valuation [21:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.89 BTC [+] [21:31]
Ukto_ thanks, I was debating adding some more details to it one the other 'things' are done I todl you about [21:31]
Ukto_ the first one is more than halfway now. might get it released tomorrow if I am lucky hehe [21:31]
mircea_popescu o hey, this is pretty juicy : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell [21:31]
mircea_popescu After his April 2000 release, Bell publicly announced that he believed that there was extensive Federal Government corruption associated with his 1997–2000 criminal case, and that he was going to research the facts and file a lawsuit. Bell filed this lawsuit in 2003.[5] Bell was put under heavy surveillance and rearrested for harassment and stalking of federal agents. He was charged with intimidation and stalking and [21:32]
mircea_popescu was convicted and again imprisoned, this time for a decade-long sentence. Bell protested vociferously against the conduct of the trial, going so far as to file civil lawsuits against two judges, at least two prosecutors, his former probation officers, and his defense attorneys, but ultimately to no avail. [21:32]
smickles Ukto_: gl :) [21:32]
DeaDTerra1 what's up with the forums ... [21:32]
DeaDTerra1 there has been a lot of downtime recently ... [21:32]
smickles mircea_popescu: a lesson in freedom? [21:33]
Ukto_ forums back up [21:34]
smickles Ukto_: does news show up in the chart in a similar way the dividend does? [21:34]
Ukto_ was. [21:34]
Ukto_ smickles: thats one of the things I am looking to add [21:34]
Ukto_ wont be hard at all [21:35]
Ukto_ Going to be adding user preferences [21:35]
Ukto_ to hide/show news, as well as divs [21:35]
Ukto_ and to set default views [21:35]
Ukto_ as well as localized time dispays [21:35]
smickles EskimoBob_afk: i'm having a tough time 'catcing your drift'. could you rephrase that or elaborate? [21:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 13.9 = 41.7 BTC [+] [21:36]
DeaDTerra1 Someone bought another 10k of S.DICE pass through shares on BF :D [21:36]
Ukto_ smickles: sounds like a virus. [21:36]
Ukto_ DeaDTerra1: was just talking about that [21:36]
DeaDTerra1 forums are back [21:36]
Ukto_ DeaDTerra1: its cool that I can use BF's webirc via my phone LOL [21:36]
DeaDTerra1 haha nice ^^ [21:37]
Ukto_ thats how lame I am. bored at parents waiting on them [21:37]
Bugpowder That looks delicious [21:37]
jurov DeaDTerra1, you still doing arb manually? [21:37]
Ukto_ spekaing of that terra [21:38]
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smickles out of context, terra sounds like a euphemism for ass [21:43]
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Ukto_ cant be [21:45]
Ukto_ no one ever calls me terra [21:45]
Ukto_ :P [21:45]
Namworld yeah, you forgot to upkeep your passthrough [21:45]
Namworld Shares were selling too high [21:46]
Ukto_ think he only charges for divs [21:46]
Namworld He also charges a margin for shares he sells [21:48]
Namworld I'm seriously thinking I should just compete. [21:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20252 @ 0.000675 = 13.6701 BTC [-] [21:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6377 @ 0.00067499 = 4.3044 BTC [-] [21:53]
Namworld Why aren't people using coinbr? [21:53]
jurov i heard they can't afford 0.09 BTC/month [21:54]
Ukto_ they do [21:54]
Ukto_ still, plenty of ppl like it. [21:54]
Ukto_ I do. [21:54]
Ukto_ I was debating using it to buy some bbet hehe [21:55]
smickles lol, blockchain.info just gave me an error [21:55]
smickles "Bitcoin not defined" [21:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 49 @ 0.00739 = 0.3621 BTC [+] [21:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00738104 = 7.381 BTC [-] [21:55]
jurov yeah they'are amusing.. i got windows xp booting gif the other day [21:55]
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Ukto_ 0,o [21:55]
mircea_popescu frame it! [21:55]
smickles heh, i got that once [21:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5871 @ 0.00067499 = 3.9629 BTC [-] [21:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006726 = 2.9063 BTC [-] [21:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13025 @ 0.00067259 = 8.7605 BTC [-] [21:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2231 @ 0.00067232 = 1.4999 BTC [-] [21:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006817 = 2.9456 BTC [+] [22:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00068187 = 3.6678 BTC [+] [22:02]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [22:05]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.66002, Best ask: 20.73900, Bid-ask spread: 0.07898, Last trade: 20.73900, 24 hour volume: 31522.03367265, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 20.10086 [22:05]
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jurov http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=bitcoin << hilarious [22:10]
thestringpuller charging 21 again eh? [22:13]
mircea_popescu wolfram alp[ha is retarded [22:13]
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smickles ;;-22/(.11962553-1) [22:19]
gribble Error: "-22/(.11962553-1)" is not a valid command. [22:19]
smickles ;;calc -22/(.11962553-1) [22:19]
gribble 24.9893661728 [22:19]
mjr_ hey all [22:21]
dub is it suberb owl sunday? [22:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067348 = 2.9101 BTC [-] [22:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 579 @ 0.00067347 = 0.3899 BTC [-] [22:22]
mod6 dub: yup [22:22]
mjr_ is jurov still here? [22:23]
jurov nope [22:23]
mjr_ lol [22:23]
mjr_ look at mpoe... [22:23]
mjr_ 1.22% spread...what is the bot doing? [22:23]
Ukto_ false hope? [22:24]
mjr_ or is the bot there [22:24]
jurov why would i, or the bot, want tight spread? [22:24]
mjr_ just curious [22:24]
dub http://i.imgur.com/PVAKKNH.jpg?1 [22:24]
thestringpuller jurov: because a tight anus is less likely to get raped? [22:25]
mjr_ i would obviously need to have it use pympex [22:25]
mjr_ but there is still profit there...and i set it so that if you put a lot of volume, i go a satoshi cheaper...if it is thin in front, i wait behind for extra satoshi [22:26]
mjr_ and yesterday, when i was watching [22:26]
jurov mjr_ what you would do with big price movements? [22:26]
mjr_ it wasn't close to the next higher or lower price [22:26]
jurov they are quite common and usually cause simple frontrunners to get stuck on wrong end [22:27]
mjr_ the stock is not too much...and although over its life it has moved a lot [22:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068184 = 2.9462 BTC [+] [22:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7329 @ 0.00068187 = 4.9974 BTC [+] [22:27]
mjr_ it doesn't seem like it is moving a ton, but of course, if i get filled on one end, i cancel orders and reassess [22:27]
mjr_ again, until i actually register on mpex its all academic [22:28]
mjr_ also the ultimate goal is not so much to scalp and front run, but rather build up as long a position as i can for the least money [22:28]
jurov you will reassssess and find out that bid is is higher than last sell price.. what now? [22:28]
mjr_ so i would weight it's priority to buy and sell accordingly [22:29]
mjr_ as long as you are getting more than .4% (buy and sell) you are making money... [22:29]
jurov i guess. [22:30]
mjr_ although currently i am running it with .5% to ttest [22:30]
mjr_ on each side (to mirror coinbr) [22:30]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [22:30]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.48947, Best ask: 20.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.00853, Last trade: 20.49800, 24 hour volume: 32327.68690484, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 20.12431 [22:30]
mjr_ was sad to find out no api [22:31]
jurov and as for the api, i'd really like it... but having the orders count suddenly increase 10x is just too big risk [22:31]
mjr_ good point [22:31]
mjr_ couldn't you set a limit on order number through api? [22:32]
mjr_ x per hour [22:32]
mjr_ or whatever [22:32]
mjr_ i think the main way to do this would be with the options...the spreads are regularly 33%-50% [22:32]
jurov that wouldn't exactly be the problem. suppose it blows up when i'm not around [22:32]
mjr_ yeah that is my worry too [22:33]
mjr_ i am gonna give my little guy only a little money to play with [22:33]
jurov human will usually notice that the order got stuck.. bot no [22:33]
mjr_ true [22:33]
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mjr_ that is the one part that i will have to test very rigorously [22:33]
mjr_ maintaining positions [22:33]
mjr_ since i am responsible to ask constantly [22:33]
jurov i tested my bot several months... and still occassionally does snafu [22:34]
mjr_ yeah true [22:34]
mjr_ it happens to billion dollar companies (knight capital) [22:34]
mjr_ but, as long as they are not killer mistakes (don't let the machine manage more than you can risk), you can fix it and make it stronger [22:34]
mjr_ knight almost went under on one bad day... [22:35]
mircea_popescu im curiouswhat results smickles comes up for his optiosn bot [22:35]
mjr_ the volume is the part i haven't really figured out how to adjust for [22:35]
mjr_ but overall, if i can say that in any given situation i am getting the best possible price, that is ok [22:36]
jurov mjr_i did options, too. but you can wait like weeks till there's som movement [22:36]
jurov maybe it got better since, but still they don't appear often in the ticker [22:36]
mjr_ yeah, but i mean, i can say get 5 $20 calls...at 1 satoshi over current, and then if i ever get filled, just replace that order and then open up sell at 1 satoshi beneath [22:37]
Bugpowder nothing happening in options this month [22:37]
Bugpowder NOTHING [22:37]
mjr_ i dn't care about 5 contracts so mucnh [22:37]
jurov but if they do everyone watches alertly :D [22:37]
Bugpowder only me buying a bunch of calls [22:37]
mjr_ its just that over the rest of the year, everyone sending market order will give me a tiny bit of money [22:37]
Bugpowder smickles trading a few here and there [22:37]
Bugpowder and my bot selling 1000s contracts to itself [22:37]
mjr_ (if the bot is designed well) [22:37]
Bugpowder the bot is no longer on automatic mode :-P [22:38]
mjr_ i think i am going to keep track of individual fill prices, so i can know if i should sell or not [22:38]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [22:38]
mjr_ ie. sell THOSE shares that i got cheap, but no more [22:38]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.48948, Best ask: 20.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.00852, Last trade: 20.49800, 24 hour volume: 32329.47027016, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 20.12737 [22:38]
Bugpowder Someone also bought some expensive puts [22:38]
Bugpowder it will heat up in a week or two though [22:38]
mjr_ yeah, its funny cuz everyone waits till the end [22:38]
jurov mjr_really, how much do you willing to pay for ability to just doing it by simple select? [22:39]
jurov go to coinbr.com/about, last paragraph [22:39]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowder it barely started. [22:39]
Bugpowder http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pension-funds-sue-blackrock-allege-192257561.html [22:39]
Bugpowder what a surprise [22:39]
mircea_popescu were some puts too iirc [22:39]
Bugpowder blackrock buys iShares [22:39]
Bugpowder changees fee structure to take 40% [22:40]
Bugpowder of return [22:40]
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Bugpowder Glad nobody is big enough to buy Vanguard. [22:40]
mjr_ LOL [22:40]
mjr_ look at last sentence... [22:40]
mjr_ they are made because they are looting returns...best performer in their portfolio [22:41]
mjr_ i wonder why [22:41]
mjr_ do you mean select SQL command? [22:41]
jurov yes [22:41]
mircea_popescu The Laborers' Local 265 Pension Fund of Cincinnati and the Plumbers and Pipefitters Local No. 572 Pension Fund of Nashville [22:42]
mjr_ would be nice i suppose, but parsing sql and parsing json is about the same effort [22:42]
mircea_popescu that sounds hot. [22:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.7 BTC [+] [22:42]
mjr_ i would mostly just like an ack on order being received, and then an execution be sent if i got filled [22:42]
mjr_ that would be awesome [22:42]
mjr_ so i could build that engine to monitor my account and then update my positions and orders table [22:43]
mircea_popescu jurov you open coinbr to what, direct sql access ? [22:43]
mjr_ i think he was referring to licensing code to me [22:43]
jurov no. that paragraph says "licensing the code" [22:43]
mjr_ or having me contribute in some way [22:43]
mjr_ which i think would be awesome [22:43]
mjr_ i mean, i mostly wrote the spread finder cuz it was fun [22:44]
mjr_ and i was curious [22:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.79353535 = 2.3806 BTC [+] [22:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4879 @ 0.00067347 = 3.2859 BTC [-] [22:44]
mjr_ python is easy and it is a nice way to try a PoC [22:44]
mjr_ not sure about execution time etc, but i don't think i need to whip out the c++ yet, do I? [22:45]
jurov PoC - proof of concept? [22:45]
mjr_ yes [22:45]
mjr_ i wanted to see if the crazy spreads i saw last night were real [22:45]
mjr_ and if i could monitor them in real time [22:45]
jurov c++ is not necessary [22:45]
mjr_ didn't think so [22:45]
mjr_ after that point, it would only be creating a position monitor, and then linking to a driver for pympex (or something at coinbr) [22:46]
mjr_ i would have to write the position monitor, and i would have to write a driver so my orders could be translated to mpex orders [22:46]
jurov have you seen mpexagent? [22:46]
mjr_ not yet [22:46]
mjr_ but i will look at it :) [22:47]
jurov it's jsonrpc "driver" for mpex [22:47]
mjr_ i mean, IDEALLY you could then use a lot of those pieces to build either a web based trading platform or an actual desktop application [22:47]
mjr_ which i think would be a huge value to the trading community [22:47]
Lyspooner fuck is cool. That guy ain't. Shhhhiiitttt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckfBGdZoR_0 [22:48]
mjr_ ie. integrated charts, depth of book, ticker, positions, executions, real time p&l [22:48]
jurov i was thinking about adding fileserving fo mpexagent [22:48]
mjr_ i am gonna look at the code now [22:48]
mjr_ is it in python? [22:48]
jurov yes [22:49]
jurov plus twisted [22:49]
mjr_ sweet, nice! [22:49]
mjr_ i used django with python in my last web based project [22:49]
mjr_ but i like twisted a lot [22:49]
mjr_ my app wasn't performance oriented but rather i wanted the easy UI admin from django [22:49]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner heh. [22:50]
jurov well. so after it will be able to serve files, one just throw there some javascript that can do jsonrpc calls [22:50]
jurov user goes to http://localhost:1077/ [22:50]
jurov bam, nice mpex UI [22:51]
mircea_popescu for the record, i think that guy must be posting out of about half the btctalk accounts [22:51]
mjr_ yeah i figured it'd be easiest to use web so i wouldn't have to actually create charts in a desktop app [22:51]
mjr_ which would not be fun i think [22:51]
mjr_ i wanted to play with angular.js [22:52]
mjr_ which i think would be PERFECT for a web based trading platform [22:52]
mjr_ in fact, if you made that interface, you could actually use selenium for your trading bot, which would be pretty cool [22:53]
mjr_ edit: i mean a browser based trading platform [22:53]
jurov nice! so far it looked like everyone is too lazy and i'll have to add it to the agent myself [22:54]
mjr_ did you look at angular? [22:55]
mjr_ and if you want any help on it, i'm down [22:55]
mjr_ also is your bot running right now? [22:55]
jurov it is [22:55]
mjr_ if so, why would it not just go 1 satoshi in front or behind [22:55]
jurov and i didn't looked on angular [22:55]
mjr_ i'm just curious [22:55]
mjr_ and i was referring to mpoe [22:56]
jurov it was originally intended for random stress testing [22:56]
mjr_ ah ok [22:56]
mjr_ just curious how you came up with bid/ask prices is all [22:56]
jurov and i kept it so, i think it discourages others from jumping in front of it [22:56]
mjr_ i think i just said "if volume less than 5000, go 1 satoshi behind, else go 1 satoshi in front [22:57]
jurov you're close. actually it goes deeper ;) [22:57]
mjr_ so that way if you have a small order, i am reasonably sure i'd get filled after you for one satoshi more [22:57]
mjr_ yours goes deeper [22:57]
mjr_ mine doesn't yet [22:57]
mjr_ but i would find it very interesting to see them interact [22:58]
Bugpowder What next? "Hopefully some SURFIN. [22:58]
mjr_ i put my code up earlier if anyone wanted to look [22:58]
mjr_ its like 15 lines or something [22:58]
mjr_ nothing special [22:58]
mjr_ but you may need to install some libraries for it to work [22:58]
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mjr_ actually, i think that mirceau_popescu's idea behind his trading platform could be huge [22:59]
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mjr_ it could greatly simplify user interface, make a more robust system that is more secure, and easier to maintain, less vulnerable to single point of failure problems [23:00]
jurov seems he enjoys bein calles mirceaU [23:00]
mjr_ sorry bad typist [23:00]
jurov *being called [23:00]
jurov :) [23:00]
mjr_ but i do try my best [23:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067371 = 2.9111 BTC [+] [23:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00067347 = 1.9389 BTC [-] [23:00]
mjr_ lol the spread is actually increasing on mpoe [23:00]
mjr_ it is so much fun to watch this [23:01]
jurov i think both mircea and coinbr's fees in fact affect order size distribution [23:01]
mjr_ yes [23:02]
mjr_ i think so too [23:02]
jurov so unlike irl exchanges, small orders are rare [23:02]
mjr_ but i account for fees [23:02]
mjr_ and i don't think the fees are very high [23:02]
mjr_ .2% or .5% is very small [23:02]
mjr_ and its a fixed cost [23:02]
mjr_ so with 1.24% on mpoe... i can make .84% every trade by basically just filling market orders [23:03]
mjr_ .24% if i am going through coinbr [23:03]
mjr_ and as i said, since my goal is to acquire a long position over time at the lowest possible price... [23:04]
mjr_ it is not very risky (i want to get in the position) [23:04]
mjr_ the options can be a bit trickier cuz they seem to be pretty thinly traded [23:05]
mjr_ but if you buy the puts and the calls... [23:05]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 3 @ 0.10526446 = 0.3158 BTC [-] [23:05]
mjr_ you are pretty well hedged [23:05]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 2 @ 0.12907935 = 0.2582 BTC [-] [23:06]
mjr_ ooh, i just thought about designing a risk monitor [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 3 @ 0.12665781 = 0.38 BTC [-] [23:06]
mjr_ (really should have one for any kind of automated system) [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C210T] 1 @ 0.10492991 BTC [23:07]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P210T] 1 @ 0.15161796 BTC [23:07]
mjr_ jurov: why would a fixed percentage fee affect size of orders? you gain nothing by increasing your volume [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4538 @ 0.00068187 = 3.0943 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068238 = 2.9486 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00068239 = 7.711 BTC [+] [23:08]
jurov no, the 30BTC /0.09monthly does it i think [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00068518 = 6.8518 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1538 @ 0.0006852 = 1.0538 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16951 @ 0.00068521 = 11.615 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7578 @ 0.00068535 = 5.1936 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00068562 = 5.9306 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00068615 = 7.925 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0006867 = 5.2189 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00068689 = 13.3944 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13620 @ 0.00068695 = 9.3563 BTC [+] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13424 @ 0.00068711 = 9.2238 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59200 @ 0.00068749 = 40.6994 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00068849 = 12.3928 BTC [+] [23:09]
mjr_ wow big order [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00068941 = 9.4449 BTC [+] [23:09]
jurov eh? [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00068953 = 3.0339 BTC [+] [23:09]
mjr_ spread jumped a ton [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16994 @ 0.00068955 = 11.7182 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00068968 = 3.3305 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29320 @ 0.00069 = 20.2308 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13485 @ 0.00069027 = 9.3083 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00069193 = 1.6606 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00069255 = 9.2109 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00069336 = 1.0054 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00069339 = 12.9664 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14961 @ 0.0006935 = 10.3755 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00069366 = 9.1563 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.0006937 = 4.5784 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00069419 = 4.8593 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00069428 = 12.9136 BTC [+] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00069526 = 4.4149 BTC [+] [23:09]
mjr_ oh but yeah that is fixed, if you are going to be a trader, and i paid a one time/ or monthly fee [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00069574 = 4.4875 BTC [+] [23:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 491 @ 0.00069577 = 0.3416 BTC [+] [23:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 151 @ 0.00725041 = 1.0948 BTC [-] [23:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4895 @ 0.00739499 = 36.1985 BTC [+] [23:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 114954 @ 0.007395 = 850.0848 BTC [+] [23:10]
mjr_ i would make as many trades as possible to maximize my investment [23:10]
kakobreklaaa jeez. [23:10]
mjr_ how'd the bot do jurov? [23:10]
mircea_popescu heh. when s.dice moves it moves. [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00067544 = 3.9176 BTC [-] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006955 = 3.0053 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069569 = 3.0061 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16526 @ 0.00069577 = 11.4983 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7625 @ 0.00069638 = 5.3099 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00069643 = 2.4027 BTC [+] [23:11]
jurov you see how it is [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00069732 = 13.8069 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5246 @ 0.00069745 = 3.6588 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00069748 = 3.5571 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00069876 = 4.0877 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00069927 = 10.0345 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15416 @ 0.00069939 = 10.7818 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00069978 = 13.4708 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00069998 = 20.9994 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069999 = 6.9999 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00069999 = 20.9997 BTC [+] [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2945 @ 0.00069999 = 2.0615 BTC [+] [23:11]
jurov yeeehaw [23:11]
mjr_ :) so much fun to watch [23:12]
jurov it's official. i'm short s.mpoe now [23:12]
mjr_ how do you do that? [23:12]
mircea_popescu what, borrowed from customers ?! [23:13]
mjr_ is that through coinbr? [23:13]
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jurov no i borrowed from smickles [23:13]
mjr_ nice [23:13]
jurov it's completely outside coinbr [23:13]
mjr_ ah ok [23:13]
mircea_popescu curious how well it works out. [23:13]
jurov just my little private shenaigans [23:13]
mjr_ yeah it is interesting [23:13]
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mjr_ its interesting to look at the differences...usually smickles could just say he will lend you the shares without actually transferring them [23:14]
mjr_ and you could short... [23:14]
mjr_ but i can see why that may not work [23:14]
mircea_popescu why not transfer them ? [23:14]
mjr_ but also with options...having to put up collateral before you exercise [23:14]
mircea_popescu sign a gpg contract, do a push, [23:14]
mircea_popescu full documentary trail. [23:14]
jurov he did transfer them. an i did sold them [23:14]
mjr_ yeah pretty easy [23:14]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [23:14]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.00735783 / 0.007395 (214461 shares, 1,577.97 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00732888 / 0.00749999 (777731 shares, 5,699.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00510289 / 0.0075 (6065344 shares, 30,950.80 BTC) [23:14]
Namworld [16:14] sign a gpg contract, do a push, [23:15]
Namworld [16:14] full documentary trail. [23:15]
mjr_ good point [23:15]
Namworld what if the other party doesn't return the shares? [23:15]
mjr_ that is what i was thinking...you do insulate yourself from that risk on mirceau's side but smickles would have to go to the court i guess? [23:16]
jurov then smickles will rate me -10 [23:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.77 = 7.7 BTC [-] [23:16]
mjr_ ah ok [23:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.007395 = 1.1093 BTC [+] [23:16]
mjr_ that is a nice way of doing it [23:16]
jurov anyway i have much more than than that on my own left from ipo.. so i'm covered even if whale buys up to 0.001 [23:16]
mjr_ i need to read up on traunch, not sure if that is the right spelling [23:17]
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mircea_popescu Namworld well obviously the problem of cp risk [23:19]
mircea_popescu but i was talkingfrom the perspective of having the proof. [23:19]
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mircea_popescu jurov i don't get it, why borrow shares if you have shares ?! [23:20]
mircea_popescu borrowing usually has costs [23:20]
mjr_ yes [23:20]
mircea_popescu Network total 25.511 Thash/s [23:20]
mircea_popescu i tell ye... these asics aren't working as advertised. [23:21]
mjr_ i thought there were only 2 of them [23:21]
mircea_popescu im sorry i didn't take more bets on network diff last year. [23:21]
mjr_ but i am kinda happy if that's the case cuz it puts my FPGA project back on track [23:21]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic hey, you seen Keefe of late ? [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2470 @ 0.00069518 = 1.7171 BTC [-] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5930 @ 0.00069998 = 4.1509 BTC [+] [23:22]
jurov yes borrowing has costs. i just wanted to operate with bigger amount [23:23]
Namworld there's no ASIC deployed yet no, except like 2? [23:24]
mjr_ actually i had only really heard of 1 that was testing on slush's [23:24]
mjr_ but i really don't konw [23:24]
jurov even these 2 should noticeably push the envelope [23:24]
Namworld How much hashing power are they? [23:25]
jurov 68000MH [23:25]
Namworld so 136 GH... [23:25]
Namworld 0.136 TH [23:25]
Namworld on 25 TH network... it would get lost in the noise... [23:26]
jurov ok i miscalculated somewhere [23:26]
Namworld 68 GH each [23:27]
mircea_popescu i have bets made in august and sept and oct and etc that diff will be under X [23:27]
mircea_popescu where x is 100mn, 50mn, even 200mn [23:27]
Namworld network hashrate estimate varies 17500 - 27500 Ghash almost daily [23:27]
mircea_popescu i've seen it as high as 33 [23:28]
Namworld just estimates tho based on luck [23:28]
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mircea_popescu yup [23:29]
jurov Namworld, difficulty is weekly average and doesn't vary so much. the luck does apply, still [23:29]
jurov *two-wekkly [23:30]
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mircea_popescu i think tomorrow we may see large jump [23:30]
mircea_popescu on exchange rate [23:31]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ << this is so funny. notice how the early yesses turn to later nos [23:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+] [23:32]
smickles i've facilitated shorts for people where I don't transfer the shares too, usually because they don't have mpex or broker accounts [23:32]
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mircea_popescu broker short. [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00069617 = 1.3923 BTC [-] [23:35]
smickles ;;ticker [23:36]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.69731, Best ask: 20.74990, Bid-ask spread: 0.05259, Last trade: 20.74990, 24 hour volume: 32706.64412999, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 20.17193 [23:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [23:37]
smickles ;;calc 19/110526446 [23:37]
gribble 1.71904559385e-07 [23:37]
smickles ;;calc 19/1.10526446 [23:37]
gribble 17.1904559385 [23:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067349 = 2.9102 BTC [-] [23:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067348 = 3.3674 BTC [-] [23:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4663 @ 0.00067347 = 3.1404 BTC [-] [23:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3566 @ 0.00067232 = 2.3975 BTC [-] [23:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3576 @ 0.00067036 = 2.3972 BTC [-] [23:41]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1 @ 0.12907935 BTC [-] [23:42]
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mjr_ yeah i guess since usually you don't clear immediately [23:44]
mjr_ broker shorts are usually what happens in finance [23:44]
mjr_ but i guess we can consider that we clear immediately? [23:45]
mjr_ not sure if "clear" is even applicable in this context [23:45]
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smickles mjr_: you say the options are thinly traded? there were over 80 thousand of 'em traded last month [23:45]
mjr_ is that all options? [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.007395 = 36.975 BTC [+] [23:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.996 BTC [-] [23:46]
smickles yeah, for mpoebot alone [23:46]
mjr_ i mean that is a range of calls and puts somewhere around the current price [23:46]
smickles yeah [23:46]
smickles there are some people who buy/sell thousands at a time over a range [23:46]
mjr_ and probably what i meant more than that was that in general, those 80,000 may have been 80 orders... [23:46]
mjr_ over a month [23:47]
mjr_ over at least 6 different instruments [23:47]
mircea_popescu options are about 1/2 total trade volume really. [23:47]
smickles ah, gotcha [23:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.78525252 BTC [+] [23:47]
mjr_ yes, but when you conflate "options" with S.DICE it isn't fair [23:47]
mjr_ since there are many different options [23:47]
smickles mircea_popescu: the rss reports number of trads too, right? [23:47]
smickles *trades [23:47]
mjr_ so if you want to get into a market maker position, you have to hope you are there at the right time [23:47]
mjr_ twice [23:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 745 @ 0.00067036 = 0.4994 BTC [-] [23:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067035 = 6.7035 BTC [-] [23:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4666 @ 0.00067034 = 3.1278 BTC [-] [23:48]
mjr_ it would be easy for S.DICE [23:48]
mircea_popescu smickles the 12 most recent [23:48]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [23:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.74243, Best ask: 20.78400, Bid-ask spread: 0.04157, Last trade: 20.74243, 24 hour volume: 32847.73945862, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.78000, 24 hour vwap: 20.17951 [23:48]
mjr_ but for any one specific option it may be tougher to hang in there, though the spread is large enough so it could work out well [23:48]
mircea_popescu mjr_ the bot made 10k btc by hanging in there las tmionth. [23:49]
mjr_ nice [23:49]
mjr_ WOW [23:49]
mjr_ is this jurov's or yours [23:49]
mircea_popescu you know how mpex trades under s.mpoe ? [23:50]
mjr_ yes [23:50]
mircea_popescu that mpoe is the name of the options bot. [23:50]
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mjr_ ah ok [23:50]
mjr_ so i don't know if i want my bot going up against yours lol [23:50]
mircea_popescu mpex started out as an options trading page back in august 2011 [23:50]
mircea_popescu was called mpoe then. [23:50]
jurov lol, like, i made 10k last month but bragging about 38btc from coinbr instead :DDDD [23:50]
mircea_popescu in february mpex opened, the two got merged in april iirc [23:51]
mircea_popescu jurov sly dog :D [23:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [-] [23:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.76 = 15.2 BTC [-] [23:51]
mjr_ you report havelocks but you can't fill their orders can you? or is that how it works... [23:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [-] [23:52]
mircea_popescu huh ? [23:52]
mjr_ i'm not sure if they keep their own inventory and you just report for pricing purposes or if whenever they get an order it comes here and is then filled [23:52]
smickles assbot reports havelock, we assume havelock buys on mpex [23:53]
mircea_popescu in general the pt operators buy on mpex and resell on w/e platform they use [23:53]
Guest49091 that would be corect [23:53]
mjr_ it just seems like havelocks prices that they buy at are noticeably above what we see [23:53]
Guest49091 correct [23:53]
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mircea_popescu well, if they don't manage to buy on mpex in time the demand on the other venue may push prices up [23:53]
topace anything reported by assbot is an internal trade from one havelock customer to another [23:54]
mjr_ i would buy S.DICE at .00724519 a share [23:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067407 = 2.9127 BTC [+] [23:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6420 @ 0.00067418 = 4.3282 BTC [+] [23:54]
mjr_ or at least i would start there and if i needed more would raise price up [23:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067395 = 2.9121 BTC [-] [23:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28180 @ 0.00067418 = 18.9984 BTC [+] [23:55]
mjr_ are all orders queued mircea_popescu? ie. one queue for all [23:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-] [23:56]
smickles i dun think so, havelock is a whole other platform [23:56]
smickles the sdice on havelock is essential a collective investment scheme [23:57]
mjr_ yes i know...but they again just paid...almost 5% more than market [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069984 = 3.024 BTC [+] [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8129 @ 0.00069998 = 5.6901 BTC [+] [23:57]
mjr_ and i know they have some sort of dividend holding thing going on [23:58]
topace mjr_: yes, but a lot of the people trading on havelock dont want to a) pay the mpex registration fee, and b) mess with gpg [23:58]
mjr_ from what i heard last night [23:58]
topace mjr_: what?? [23:58]
mjr_ ah ok [23:58]
topace dividend holdng? [23:58]
topace (note: i run havelock) [23:58]
mjr_ i heard that they keep 5% or something [23:58]
mjr_ of dividends [23:58]
topace oh, yes, for the S.DICE passthru, we pay out 95% of the dividend we receive from mpex [23:58]
mjr_ management fee...i haven't researched, and i don't know [23:58]
mjr_ yes exactly [23:58]
topace 5% is our "Fee" essentially for running the passthru [23:59]
mjr_ and i understand about fees [23:59]
mjr_ so yeah, i get that [23:59]
mjr_ i think that is a great business model, and all orders are denominated in lots of 100 right? [23:59]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [23:59]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.0073593 / 0.007395 (221103 shares, 1,627.17 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00732904 / 0.00749999 (782480 shares, 5,734.83 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00510684 / 0.0075 (6074156 shares, 31,019.75 BTC) [23:59]
mircea_popescu !ticker h s.dice [23:59]
assbot Are you sure you have no tobacco? [23:59]
mircea_popescu !ticker h sdice [23:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.75670000 / 0.78531261 / 0.83831111 (131 shares, 102.87595147 BTC), 7D: 0.56110000 / 0.75183841 / 0.89000000 (1573 shares, 1182.64181198 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.58622355 / 0.89000000 (5772 shares, 3383.68232992 BTC) [23:59]
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