Forum logs for 02 Mar 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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rg "balance" : 0.18585751, [00:00]
rg no one be stealing our bitcoins [00:01]
rg i moved it off site [00:01]
rawrmage all except for 0.18585751 of them! [00:01]
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neofutur rawrmage: thanks to tell me! i wond try to update bind now . . . I m providing dns for hundreds of domains [00:02]
rg BIND?! [00:02]
rg for real? [00:02]
rg comeo n guys [00:03]
rawrmage what's wrong with bind9 [00:03]
imsaguy yeah, don't use bind.. use windows dns [00:03]
mircea_popescu do any of you read any bitcoin publication/blog/such thing ? [00:03]
rg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerDNS [00:03]
rawrmage neofutur: i just run it for my own domains and a little fun alternative root :P [00:03]
neofutur rg: sorry, I love to use good old code , in which all important security problems already been found [00:04]
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helo santorum quotes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3BYcHmBhE [00:04]
rawrmage rg: what advantages would I get from migrating everything I already have working just fine over [00:04]
* Raccoon explodes into a frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter. [00:04]
DBordello Do cards not like certain mem clocks? For example, they won't run at 160MHz but will at 150 and 165Mhz. Does it need to be a multiple of something [00:04]
neofutur mircea_popescu: yyup I read #bc-news [00:04]
mircea_popescu i meant outside of irc [00:04]
mircea_popescu dbordello : it might be resonance phenomena [00:04]
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rg neofutur: just wait till the next TSIG vuln gets posted [00:05]
helo Raccoon: _semen_ and fecal matter, isn't it? [00:05]
rg rawrmage: nothing really [00:05]
neofutur rg: new things are fun, but I prefer to save my time , and have 100 % uptime on DNS service for 10 years ;) [00:05]
rg california is just better hardware [00:05]
mircea_popescu no, its lube. [00:05]
DBordello mircea_popescu: care to elaborate? [00:05]
rg neofutur: so do i [00:05]
vragnaroda [16:50] < neofutur> | still a good thing if slush is not responsible <-- How is slush not responsible? [00:05]
rg would you care to see why bind is bad? [00:05]
AdamGiunta Does anyone need a 60 day WoW time code for 4BTC? I send first! :D [00:05]
Cusipzzz rg: nice offer from ya. i may grab one tonight. [00:05]
rg just give me your NS ips [00:05]
rg ill show you [00:05]
mircea_popescu dbordello : well, its quantum mechanics really. certain frequencies just don't work. [00:06]
rawrmage rg: 205.251.155.213 [00:06]
rg haha fuck you rawrmage [00:06]
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rg i recognize my own IP blocks anywhere [00:06]
rawrmage rg: show me [00:06]
rawrmage does it matter if it's on your services or not? :P [00:06]
Cusipzzz lol [00:06]
rg well, it wouldnt hurt me [00:06]
rg it just makes bind go to 100% usage [00:06]
mircea_popescu dbordello http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance [00:06]
rawrmage oh lol [00:06]
rg and eventually crash and die [00:06]
rg ive seen it go into zombie state before [00:06]
AdamGiunta I'm also selling an unused key for Starcraft II for 7BTC. I send first! ;D [00:07]
rawrmage and that's in the current version of bind9? [00:07]
rg its in all versions of bind [00:07]
rawrmage rg: 50.16.221.64 then [00:07]
DBordello mircea_popescu: I know what resonance is :) How can I calculate what clocks will cause it? [00:07]
rawrmage i want to see this :P [00:07]
mircea_popescu o jesus, i don't know and it'd depend on minute porperties of the die. [00:07]
helo can starcraft II keys be consumed without access to a windows machine? [00:08]
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Cusipzzz hey, that's the code on my luggage [00:08]
mircea_popescu prolly best way is to scan for them, for something as complex as a gpu [00:08]
rawrmage rg: lol [00:08]
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rg rawrmage: ask neofutur [00:10]
rg he just saw it [00:10]
rg first hand [00:10]
Mouseface_ ;;guide [00:10]
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rawrmage neofutur: what happened? :P [00:10]
rawrmage rg: oh, lol, my load spiked, must have been coincidentally [00:10]
jcpham rg way to lick ass [00:10]
rg rawrmage: it didnt come from bitvps machines [00:11]
rg bitvps cant spoof [00:11]
rg :P [00:11]
rawrmage hm? [00:11]
rg jcpham: he asked me to [00:11]
rg i wouldnt do it without asking [00:11]
rg jeez [00:11]
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rg yep [00:13]
rg people are starting to bite on the webhostingtalk thread [00:13]
rg i knew it was only a matter of time [00:13]
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jcpham http://images.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw2012-shit_just_got_srs.jpg [00:13]
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AIEmpire So it looks like the price of btc has been pretty stable for the past 30d now.. [00:16]
rg JINX [00:16]
rg it just went to $0 [00:16]
rawrmage lol [00:16]
jcpham yep [00:16]
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Joric luckily i'm shorting atm [00:18]
jjjrmy-m guys, click my site, I'm trying some stuff: www.giftcoin.net [00:18]
rawrmage how do you buy at $0 [00:18]
rawrmage cliqued [00:19]
jcpham stop orders at 0$ [00:19]
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ageis hackety hack [00:19]
jjjrmy-m ageis: ? [00:19]
jcpham plz2nothackback [00:19]
rg JJRMY! [00:19]
rg mAN [00:20]
rg i thought you were dead! [00:20]
DBordello jjjrmy-m: very nice [00:20]
Joric jjjrmy-m, get rid of that background it looks like wallpapers in the nursery [00:20]
jjjrmy-m rg: no, just very very bery busy [00:20]
[\\\] ;;ticker [00:20]
[\\\] ;;ident [00:20]
rg jjjrmy-m: you still have a computer right? [00:20]
jjjrmy-m rg: no [00:20]
rg what hardware do you need? [00:20]
jjjrmy-m rg: a cpu [00:20]
rg socket? [00:20]
jjjrmy-m and motherboard [00:20]
jjjrmy-m and rame [00:20]
rg oh [00:20]
jjjrmy-m that's it [00:20]
rg well i have ram and a cpu, no mobo [00:21]
jjjrmy-m what CPU? [00:21]
neofutur rawrmage: rg is right [00:21]
rg 2xOpteron 250's [00:21]
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[\\\] You can't change the pass on a GPG key, right? [00:21]
neofutur took down one of my dns servers [00:21]
rawrmage neofutur: wow [00:21]
rg with minimal effort [00:21]
neofutur ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached [00:21]
rawrmage [\\\]: sure you can [00:21]
rg neofuture: show us the top line in your 'top' [00:21]
[\\\] rawrmage: How? D: [00:21]
rg i wanna see what named is eating [00:22]
neofutur no load increase on the server, nothing in logs, nothing i could see, server still responding but not binfd [00:22]
rawrmage i dunno [00:22]
rawrmage look through the man page [00:22]
rg hrm [00:22]
neofutur rg do it agian so i can watch it with tcpdump ! [00:22]
rg its supposed to peg the cpu to 100% [00:22]
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rg neofutur: i never stopped [00:22]
rg its still going [00:22]
jjjrmy-m I'm doing stats [00:22]
rawrmage there [00:22]
rawrmage gpg --edit-key whatevere [00:22]
rg youll see what the attack is [00:22]
neofutur top - 01:17:12 up 188 days, 23:20, 4 users, load average: 3.02, 3.55, 3.52 [00:22]
rawrmage then passwd [00:22]
[\\\] rawrmage: ok [00:22]
neofutur mostly normal load [00:22]
rg damn [00:22]
rg only if bind was multi threaded [00:23]
rg i could peg all the cpus [00:23]
rg :> [00:23]
rawrmage lol [00:23]
rg check your mem usage, it will eat a lot [00:23]
neofutur its a 8 core server [00:23]
neofutur 4447 named 20 0 13316 7252 1316 S 0 0.0 0:00.26 named [00:23]
rg wow [00:24]
rg thats not what its supposed to do [00:24]
rawrmage lol [00:24]
Mouseface how do i contact a seller from the order book? Feeling incredibly stupid at the moment... [00:25]
mircea_popescu you call them out here, send a /query to their name [00:25]
mircea_popescu or go to their email in their signature. [00:25]
[\\\] ;;rated Cory [00:26]
gribble You rated user Cory on Sun Feb 26 00:13:40 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: <3 Helped me out; and I have done a lot of trades. [00:26]
Mouseface hmm thanks [00:26]
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Cory What's gribble's escape character? [00:28]
imsaguy Cory, just double the slashes [00:29]
btchero2 slashes are a stupid name [00:29]
imsaguy ;;rated "[\\\\\\\]" [00:29]
gribble You have not yet rated user [\\\\] [00:29]
imsaguy ;;rated "ident [\\\\\\\]" [00:29]
gribble You have not yet rated user ident [\\\\] [00:29]
imsaguy ;;rated ident "[\\\\\\\]" [00:29]
gribble (rated ) -- Get the details about the rating you gave to , if any. [00:29]
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imsaguy ;;rated [ident "[\\\\\\\]"] [00:29]
Cory Ah. [00:30]
Cory Lol [00:30]
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[\] mine's better anyway [00:30]
[\] :) [00:30]
btchero2 I wouldn't even rate Cory too much work [00:30]
jjjrmy-m okay, idk [00:30]
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[\\\\\\\] and I'm the largest :) [00:31]
btchero2 ;;ident "[\\\\\\\]" [00:31]
btchero2 yay i did it [00:31]
jurov mircea_popescu: looks like it it almost 100btc :) [00:34]
mircea_popescu almost yes. [00:34]
Joric [\\\\\\\] look solid and trustworthy [00:35]
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jjjrmy-m who's IP is 10.4.2.32? [00:38]
coingenuity jjjrmy-m: [00:39]
nicksy34 b [00:39]
coingenuity uhhhhh [00:39]
coingenuity dude [00:39]
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coingenuity you really dont wanna know [00:39]
jjjrmy-m coingenuity: no, I do. [00:39]
coingenuity where did you stumble upon that? [00:39]
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jjjrmy-m coingenuity: someone from that IP accessed my site and I couldn't resolve it to a location. [00:39]
coingenuity what's your site? [00:39]
rg lol [00:39]
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rg 10.x is internal [00:39]
rg its the equivilent of 192.168.x [00:40]
jjjrmy-m rg: oh [00:40]
rg dont fuck with him guys [00:40]
jjjrmy-m rg: so how do my script get the internal IP? [00:40]
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jjjrmy-m that doesn't seem right [00:40]
coingenuity rg: bogons use that subnet to BGP masquerade [00:40]
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rg jjjrmy-m: someone with internal access [00:40]
jjjrmy-m rg: internal access to my server? [00:40]
rg like say an employee of your ISP visits your site, if theyre connected to the internal LAN [00:40]
rg and teh same routers [00:41]
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rg it'll show the 10.x [00:41]
jjjrmy-m oh, okay. [00:41]
jjjrmy-m I'll brb [00:41]
jjjrmy-m have to eat dinner [00:41]
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jjjrmy-m probably just a glitch [00:41]
Joric some proxies could pass internal ip's in x-forwarded-for and some loggers will log it [00:41]
rg that tooo [00:41]
rg oh hell yes [00:41]
rg $5 off papaginos ! [00:41]
jcpham i'll claim 10.4.2.32 [00:42]
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Joric it could be worse, could be 127.90.0.1 [00:42]
jcpham auto eth1 [00:43]
jcpham iface eth1 inet static [00:43]
jcpham address 10.4.2.32 [00:43]
jcpham and so on... [00:43]
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Cory There's just something about getting cash in the mail. :) [00:44]
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mircea_popescu it's like opening a bag fulla tits cory [00:46]
jcpham mmmm [00:46]
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Cory ;;rate danieldaniel 3 He's pretty active, he's paid back a $60 BTC loan, he's bought a couple hundred dollars of BTC from me, and he's sold me a few hours of dedicated server time. :D. [00:47]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user danieldaniel has changed from 3 to 3. [00:47]
Joric one two seven zero nine zero one (c) good wife [00:47]
Joric the satoshi's ip [00:47]
jcpham it's secret [00:47]
[\\\] 127.0.90.1 [00:47]
Joric nope [00:47]
Joric it's exactly one two seven zero nine zero one [00:47]
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jcpham it's a tri-octet [00:48]
Joric i just found that place [00:48]
Joric 29:47 [00:48]
jcpham the eternal internet-delta [00:48]
mircea_popescu Thus, the system stays consistent, as long as “honest” nodes control a much-much bigger pool of computational power than attackers [00:49]
mircea_popescu http://www.pds.ewi.tudelft.nl/~victor/bitcoin.html [00:49]
Joric it could be 127.0.9.0.1 [00:49]
rg i just shoveled [00:49]
mircea_popescu this guy. what is he on about [00:49]
rg holy shit is cold out [00:49]
gmaxwell mircea_popescu: consistent is a good word there. [00:49]
mircea_popescu i don't like how he confuses power with work. [00:49]
mircea_popescu its true that in terms of work the honest nodes do much more than an attacker [00:50]
mircea_popescu it's also meaningless. [00:50]
Joric and then she says 'it's OUR ip address'! [00:50]
mircea_popescu lol [00:52]
mircea_popescu http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Bug-in-Plesk-administration-software-is-being-actively-exploited-1446587.html [00:52]
mircea_popescu seems plesk is the ultimate issue with slush [00:52]
mircea_popescu who's running plesk ? [00:52]
mircea_popescu The vulnerability seems to be a SQL injection problem, which an attacker can exploit to gain full administrative access to a system. Linux and Windows versions of Parallels Plesk Panel 7.6.1 - 10.3.1 are affected. [00:53]
rg so they wasted a 0day [00:55]
rg on stealing a few bitcoins? [00:55]
rg wow [00:55]
mircea_popescu yea [00:55]
mircea_popescu seems it was really deep. [00:55]
jcpham that's a huge exploit [00:55]
mircea_popescu yes. [00:55]
rg that is extremely short sighted [00:55]
mircea_popescu we don't know yet all they stole maybe ? [00:55]
rg good point [00:55]
jcpham especially al the version affected [00:55]
rg we dont even know thats what happened [00:56]
rg with them [00:56]
mircea_popescu yea its one huge gaping hole the size of russia. [00:56]
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rg that oculd just be a different vuln [00:56]
mircea_popescu could be, but notice the full admin access ? [00:56]
mircea_popescu seems to fit well. [00:56]
rg Our investigation has revealed a customer support interface was used to access your account. The compromised credentials have been restricted and we are discussing policy changes to prevent this from recurring. [00:57]
rg that doesnt [00:57]
mircea_popescu umm... kinda does ? [00:57]
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mircea_popescu i mean, who knows they even got it straight. [00:57]
slush mircea_popescu: linode is using plesk? [00:59]
slush I expected it is some inhouse solution.. [00:59]
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mircea_popescu i dont know i dont use linode [01:00]
rg Access Vector: Network exploitable; victim must voluntarily interact with attack mechanism [01:00]
rg ^^ [01:00]
mircea_popescu do you know if they use plesk ? [01:00]
mircea_popescu seems they use something called linode 540 [01:01]
mircea_popescu hmm no that's not rigth [01:02]
rg slush: have you checked your BitVPS vm? [01:02]
rg to make sure everythings OK [01:02]
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rg i know, completely unrelated, but better ot be safe than sorry [01:02]
mircea_popescu alrighty, last hour for MPOE IPO. Get your stox now or wait till april! [01:03]
rg scam [01:03]
rg :> [01:04]
mircea_popescu lol [01:04]
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mircea_popescu you make your grandsons sad [01:04]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: wtf, over 5k btc in that address? [01:04]
mircea_popescu well yes ? [01:04]
mircea_popescu why, you thought i was poor ? [01:05]
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copumpkin I thought you weren't using it for anything but the IPO [01:05]
mircea_popescu its the exchange addy. everything goes in there. [01:05]
copumpkin oh, lol [01:05]
copumpkin why not use a separate address to limit IPO confusion [01:05]
* rg owns mircea's plesk [01:05]
mircea_popescu just search for 999 cop [01:05]
mircea_popescu i dont have a plesk rg [01:05]
copumpkin plesk sounds like something out of starcraft [01:06]
mircea_popescu it does. [01:06]
mircea_popescu it's that gun they have [01:06]
mircea_popescu anyay, copumpkin, ~90 btc in the ipo so far. [01:07]
copumpkin dammit [01:07]
copumpkin well, I'm not going to bother fighting with people this early [01:07]
copumpkin I'll wait until you offer more [01:07]
mircea_popescu prolly smart. [01:07]
mircea_popescu having some dibs in is a good ideea, going to town on it prolly not. [01:07]
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* copumpkin throws 10k btc at the IPO [01:08]
copumpkin ALL 0.1% MUST BE MINE [01:08]
mircea_popescu lol [01:08]
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mircea_popescu you'd only get 99% [01:08]
mircea_popescu NOT THE 1% [01:08]
lyspooner i am the 99% [01:08]
lyspooner like, metaphorically [01:08]
copumpkin I'm sure you're in the 0.1% [01:09]
copumpkin if you sort people by the probability that they'd pick lyspooner as a nickname online [01:09]
mircea_popescu mk im gonna go watch Blutjunge Verfuhrerinnen 2. [01:09]
rg i dont like lyspooner as a nickname [01:09]
mircea_popescu don't break anytghing. [01:09]
rg i wouldve went with lysol [01:09]
* copumpkin breaks mircea_popescu's IPO [01:09]
lyspooner sad to see the faucet get emptied [01:10]
lyspooner that's where i got my first 5 [01:10]
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Rebroad just discovered an unusual accounting error in one of mtgox's wallets... [01:11]
rg Rebroad: do share [01:12]
Rebroad starting at 2012-02-10 11:14:13 in http://blockexplorer.com/address/1LNWw6yCxkUmkhArb2Nf2MPw6vG7u5WG7q [01:12]
rg however, 6 mtgox employees are on their way to your house with guns [01:12]
rg aim for the brain, thats the only way to kill them [01:12]
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Cory Anybody here investing with mircea_popescu? [01:13]
copumpkin yeah [01:13]
Cory Or want to pay me not to invest? :P [01:13]
[\\\] rg... my spinpoint is making a weird clicking noise... [01:13]
[\\\] know anything about this? [01:13]
copumpkin Cory: honestly, I just wanted to get something in the IPO, but it's not worth fighting over such a tiny percentage [01:13]
Rebroad which they finally spot at 2012-02-22 06:28:53! [01:13]
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rg i have no idea waht a spinpoint is ;< [01:14]
copumpkin mircea_popescu should have just held an auction for 0.1% at a pre-announced time in an IRC channel [01:14]
copumpkin :P [01:14]
[\\\] samsung spinpoint 7200rpm rg [01:14]
rg ohh [01:14]
rg run SMART [01:14]
mircea_popescu that'd have been way too nice [01:14]
rg see if its dying [01:14]
copumpkin lol [01:14]
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rg ùíù SignOff Rebroad: #bitcoin-otc (Read error: Connection timed out) [01:15]
rg mtgox employees killed him [01:15]
rg that was quick [01:15]
mircea_popescu sometimes gox does good deeds :D [01:15]
ageis rebroads been discovering stuff all day [01:16]
phantomcircuit rg, lol i found lucicrous cheap loco [01:16]
phantomcircuit ALL MINE [01:16]
copumpkin lol [01:17]
rg we need to get jjjrmy a new computer [01:17]
copumpkin NEED MOAR [01:17]
rg it pains me to see him IRC from a cellphone [01:17]
copumpkin MOARCOINZ [01:17]
[\\\] rg apparantly my drive is fine [01:17]
[\\\] but the noise is worrying =_= [01:17]
mircea_popescu i thought he was ircing from a toaster oven [01:18]
ageis i IRC from android easy [01:18]
ageis not that it stays connected always though [01:18]
rg ;;market sell 4000000 [01:19]
gribble A market order to sell 4000000 bitcoins right now would net 1246895.7079 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0000 USD. [01:19]
[\\\] Should I open an ally account? [01:19]
[\\\] lol: "and would take the last price down to 0.0000 USD." [01:19]
[\\\] [\\\] who are you =_= [01:19]
mircea_popescu ;;market sell 4665 [01:20]
gribble A market order to sell 4665 bitcoins right now would net 22823.6219 USD and would take the last price down to 4.8510 USD. [01:20]
[\\\] oh danieldaneil [01:20]
[\\\] [\\\]: danieldaniel [01:20]
[\\\] lol [01:20]
mircea_popescu jesus i have no impakts ;/ [01:20]
[\\\] [\\\]: you're Someguy123? [01:20]
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[\\\] yeah [01:20]
[\\\] coolbeans [01:20]
mircea_popescu omg stole my expression! [01:20]
mircea_popescu ima sue [01:20]
rg ;;market buy 4000000 [01:21]
gribble This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 256115.81 bitcoins, for a total of 68084867355.7456 USD and take the price to 179330000000.0000. [01:21]
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nanotube heh someone has a nice 'just in case' order on gox apparently [01:22]
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nanotube well, i'm gonna undercut him and sell a coin for 178 trillion. :P [01:22]
nanotube oh, billion. [01:23]
rg yep [01:23]
rg 179bil [01:23]
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rg alright just gotta raise that 68,084,867,355.74 USD [01:24]
rg and we're there! [01:24]
errydayimgenerat qweeeeeeeeeeeeee [01:24]
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Joric ;;market sell 3094 [01:26]
Joric A market order to sell 3094 bitcoins right now would net 15175.0263 USD and would take the last price down to 4.8800 USD. [01:26]
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nicksy34 is there anybody here from australia selling bitcoins pm me [01:27]
Joric if that guy who took 3094 btc from linode cashes out my short will turn profitable [01:27]
rg bah [01:28]
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rg fucking scum bag thiefs [01:28]
rg wasted a totally good exploit [01:28]
rg to make a few bucks [01:28]
rg that is pretty much the opposite of being a hacker [01:28]
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rg one can only hope they left some incriminating logs [01:29]
plato ;;getrating slush [01:29]
rg on linode [01:29]
rg linode has most definitely already called teh FBI [01:29]
rg no doubt in my mind [01:29]
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plato ;;rated slush [01:30]
gribble You have not yet rated user slush [01:30]
plato ;;rate slush 10 paid users 3k+ btc out of pocket when his pool got hacked [01:31]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 10 for user slush has been recorded. [01:31]
rg plato: +1 [01:31]
ageis is there verification of that claim? [01:31]
mircea_popescu ;;rate slush 3 His linode VPS got hacked (not his fault) he covered for 10+. Gotta count for something. [01:31]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user slush has been recorded. [01:31]
RedEmerald well i doubt he would steal from himself and then pay everyone the stolen funds... [01:31]
RedEmerald suppose its possible tho... [01:31]
rg shut your fucking mouth [01:32]
rg i dont even wanna hear that shit [01:32]
hotinbit anyone looking for 2k moneypak or paypal USD......................................i am lookingfor BTC or LR [01:32]
ageis i believe it, i just want to be sure it can be verified before people accept it as true [01:32]
rg ageis: bitvps is donating 40% of this months revenue to slush [01:32]
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Joric bitcoin faucet got hacked too [01:32]
ageis eye gno [01:33]
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rg i order you to hop on the pro-slush bandwagon [01:33]
rg without thinking for yourself [01:33]
rg (just kidding) [01:33]
rg even if he hasnt paid it out yet, i have no doubt in my mind that he will [01:33]
ageis i'm pro i am just wondering if theres a way we can know for sure that it's "covered" [01:33]
ageis ya [01:33]
ageis trust the slusht [01:34]
rg i think he's just thankful that this is the worst of it [01:34]
rg it coulda been a lot worse [01:34]
MBS anyone want a 12 month xbox live code? [01:34]
ageis i hope linode is interrogating each of those tatted and pierced script kiddies in their offices as we speak [01:36]
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ageis unless that exploit is from outside [01:37]
[\\\] Auctioning away 1 bitcoin! Starting bid 1.5BTC [01:37]
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SerajewelKS slush has probably made more than 3k BTC from this :) good on him for covering it, though [01:38]
SerajewelKS that's good business [01:38]
jurov [\\\]: that coin is somehow special? [01:39]
[\\\] jurov: its shiny [01:39]
jurov address or it didnt happen [01:40]
ageis clearly not everyone interested in bitcoins is so charitable [01:40]
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rawrmage i'd pay 1.5 btc for a coin from the genesis block [01:41]
ageis if you were a bitcoin thief would you hold or cash out for real moneys ? [01:41]
[\\\] rawrmage: no, but it's shiny [01:41]
errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd for wells fargo to wells fargo transfer :) [01:43]
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[\\\] errydayimgenerat: y u no td bank [01:44]
[\\\] errydayimgenerat: And I know it suck [01:44]
errydayimgenerat cause td bank is weak [01:44]
[\\\] errydayimgenerat: I know, but they are cheap [01:45]
Cory Somebody should lead a dollar auction with a bitcoin on IRC. [01:45]
[\\\] Cory: dollar auction? [01:45]
[\\\] Isn't it "penny auction"? [01:45]
[\\\] If so, I would be glad to do it with my newly acquired piece of jewelry (don't ask) [01:46]
jurov Hereby i charitably offer 10 ltc. [01:46]
Cory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_auction [01:46]
[\\\] Cory: oh [01:46]
jurov Also shiny. [01:46]
[\\\] jurov: mien is more shiny [01:46]
jurov silver is more shiny tha gold [01:46]
[\\\] D: [01:46]
nanotube errydayimgenerat: should have gotten more earlier. :P [01:47]
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[\\\] Cory: I would do it [01:47]
errydayimgenerat yeahhh [01:47]
[\\\] Cory: With one of the BTC you sold me! :D [01:47]
Cory I'd participate. [01:47]
[\\\] Cory: if you can get some people to do it in #bitcoin-auction [01:48]
[\\\] Post it on the forums, I have a total of 0.000000001 rep on the forums [01:48]
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[\\\] i could also do it with a dollar lol [01:49]
Rebroad ;;gpg eregister Rebroad 6B946A99B4E191A0 [01:50]
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jurov Soon you will get bitcoins to your address. [01:53]
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jurov ... and it will become tainted by filthy stuff from dailybitcoins lol [01:54]
errydayimgenerat hmmmm [01:54]
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bitcoin anyone willing to sell about $275 worth of btc for Moneypak? [01:55]
errydayimgenerat bitcoin: you happen to have wells fargo? [01:56]
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bitcoin no. just MP sorry [01:56]
[\\\] bitcoin: you happen to have TD Bank? [01:57]
bitcoin I just have a $275 MP sorry [01:57]
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dwon what about a robot with a human brain? [01:57]
[\\\] who is bitcoinhero on the forums? [01:58]
ne0futur you just need to invent datajack first [01:58]
ne0futur query me when you do i m interested [01:58]
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bitcoin no one is interested in MP? it's basically just PayPal. This isn't my main account so my rating won't show but I just wanna see if anyone is willing. [02:01]
[\\\] bitcoin: what's your main acc? [02:02]
bitcoin matthew_ [02:02]
paraipan sup bitcoin [02:02]
[\\\] ;;getrating matthew_ [02:02]
gribble User matthew_, created on Mon Jan 30 18:49:11 2012. Cumulative rating 4, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=matthew_ Currently not authenticated. [02:02]
paraipan a priv will do [02:02]
paraipan i don't use dcc [02:02]
paraipan :) [02:02]
bitcoin sorry what's a priv? [02:03]
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paraipan normal priv chat [02:03]
ne0futur bitcoin: gpg register and ident will help you find buyers anyway [02:03]
MBS ok finally was able to get BOA site set up, lol [02:03]
rg go go power rangers [02:03]
rg ill be in the other room [02:03]
rg if anyne needs me [02:03]
MBS need to spend 72.73 more [02:03]
bitcoin yeah I'll get authorized if someone shows interest. I'm just having technical difficulties. [02:04]
[\\\] MBS: BOA? [02:04]
MBS bank of america [02:04]
[\\\] Oh [02:04]
[\\\] you set up your account [02:04]
[\\\] When you said "get BOA site set up", it confused me -- I thought you were a BOA employee or something [02:05]
ne0futur or a phishing website ? [02:05]
MBS think they were supposted to mail me a temporary password or something, but never came, so had to call [02:05]
ne0futur I thought you were setting up a phishing website [02:05]
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ne0futur would be logical since you post here false btc address for -otc donations . . . [02:05]
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[\\\] omg its draco49 [02:06]
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draco49 sup all [02:07]
[\\\] draco49: ohaider [02:07]
draco49 why did you change your nick? [02:08]
[\\\] draco49: just cause [02:08]
nanotube ne0futur: he was just kidding you know. :) [02:08]
draco49 good enuff for me [02:09]
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[\\\\] what is this i dont even [02:11]
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Rebroad nanotube, thanks :) [02:12]
neofutur nanotube: I have no way to know more than what I see ;( [02:13]
nanotube neofutur: true he should have been clearer in retraction for the benefit of people who don't know. [02:15]
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nanotube but i'm sure it wasn't malice [02:15]
smickles ;;calc 0.016*[ticker --last] [02:15]
gribble 0.0785616 [02:15]
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smickles hell ya, coinworker, blow off some steam, make some coin [02:15]
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Rebroad hmmm, http://http://bitcoin-otc.com/ticker.php hasn't updated... [02:18]
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[\\\] Chaang-Noi: aren't you from the forums? lol [02:18]
vragnaroda Rebroad: http://http:// ? [02:19]
nanotube Rebroad: it updates on a regular basis, but is not live. [02:19]
nanotube give it a few min. [02:19]
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nanotube Rebroad: there it is [02:20]
Rebroad :) [02:20]
Rebroad oooer.... the ask for USD is 4 and the bid is 5.1613 - isn't that the wrong way around? [02:21]
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nanotube Rebroad: no, there's no auto execution here... so apparently someone has a low ask. [02:21]
Rebroad yeah, it's imsaguy [02:22]
nanotube that someone would be imsaguy [02:22]
nanotube imsaguy2: can i buy your btc at 4usd? :P [02:22]
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[\\\\\\\] no. [02:23]
ne0futur imsaguy2: I could also be interested :p [02:23]
Rebroad probably worth me buying BTC with GBP, selling it for USD, and buying imsaguy's BTC [02:23]
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nanotube Rebroad: haha yea. only problem is, he's not about to actualy trade on that hehe [02:24]
[\\\\\\\] I wouldn't trade with Rebroad at this point anyway. [02:24]
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Rebroad \\\\\, why do you say that? [02:25]
[\\\\\\\] well, for starters: dub, it's already established from what I've read, that imsaguy is a dick. [02:25]
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[\\\\\\\] ;;gettrust Rebroad [02:25]
gribble Trust relationship from user imsaguy to user Rebroad: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=imsaguy&dest=Rebroad [02:25]
Rebroad I was going by the web of trust ratings [02:25]
[\\\\\\\] so essentially, you're 0 for 2 [02:25]
nanotube Rebroad: imsa's ratings are pretty good... [02:26]
Rebroad yup I'm an unknown. that's a better reason :) [02:26]
[\\\\\\\] I don't trade with unknowns. I don't need to. [02:26]
rawrmage ;;gettrust Rawl123 [02:26]
gribble Trust relationship from user rawrmage to user Rawl123: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=rawrmage&dest=Rawl123 [02:26]
[\\\\\\\] :) [02:26]
rawrmage ;;gettrust rawrmage [02:26]
gribble Trust relationship from user rawrmage to user rawrmage: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 28 via 18 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=rawrmage&dest=rawrmage [02:26]
rawrmage lol i didn't think that would work [02:26]
[\\\\\\\] ;;gettrust imsaguy [02:26]
gribble Trust relationship from user imsaguy to user imsaguy: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 176 via 97 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=imsaguy&dest=imsaguy [02:26]
[\\\] ;;gettrust danieldaniel [02:26]
gribble Trust relationship from user danieldaniel to user danieldaniel: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 55 via 38 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=danieldaniel&dest=danieldaniel [02:26]
errydayimgenerat ;;gettrust errydayimgenerat [02:26]
gribble Trust relationship from user errydayimgenerat to user errydayimgenerat: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 14 via 7 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=errydayimgenerat&dest=errydayimgenerat [02:26]
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imsaguy oh jesus [02:27]
rawrmage the graph does not match the chart! [02:27]
imsaguy look what oyu started. [02:27]
rawrmage ;;getrating rawrmage [02:27]
gribble User rawrmage, created on Mon Sep 19 17:39:15 2011. Cumulative rating 30, from 19 total ratings. Received ratings: 19 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 21 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=rawrmage Currently authenticated from hostmask rawrmage!~servnix@pdpc/supporter/student/rawrmage [02:27]
Rebroad and anyway, I seem to be the only one dealing with GBP... [02:27]
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[\\\] so is that bitcoinmagazine thing good? [02:27]
imsaguy nanotube: don't believe the ratings. [02:27]
nanotube Rebroad: so you get to make the market here :) [02:27]
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rawrmage where was that big ol huge wot graph [02:27]
Rawl123 just curious, how can i register over here? [02:27]
rawrmage from a while ago [02:27]
rawrmage of the entire WoT [02:27]
nanotube ;;ctell Rawl123 gpg [02:27]
gribble Rawl123: Here are the instructions for authenticating with the bot using GPG: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication [02:27]
Rebroad well, intersango offer a better spread probably even with their fees [02:28]
Rawl123 thanks a bunch. [02:28]
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nanotube Rebroad: yea maybe :) so it's up to you to tighten the spread, or to just wait for people to be in a hurry. [02:28]
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Rebroad and if someone does want to buy from me... i guess it's down to them and me to decide how to transfer it..? [02:29]
Rebroad (the GBP) [02:29]
imsaguy aye [02:29]
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imsaguy this channel is nothing more than a meeting place, its up to both parties to figure everything out. [02:29]
nanotube yep, otc. [02:29]
Rebroad hmmm, if they're in a hurry, I'd have thought intersango would still be quicker... [02:30]
imsaguy Are you kidding? [02:30]
nanotube it takes like a day to get the funds in, probably, at least. [02:30]
Rebroad they accept BACS and they email automatically when it's received.. [02:30]
imsaguy if I offered some btc for sale, I know I could have it down in under 30 seconds. [02:30]
imsaguy done* [02:30]
imsaguy thats from funding to btc transfer. [02:30]
Rebroad isn't paypal risky due to the chargebacks? [02:31]
imsaguy depends on the counterparty [02:31]
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imsaguy if you accept a bad check, you're just as screwed [02:31]
imsaguy it comes down to trust. [02:31]
Rebroad can I sell my house for BTC on bitcoin-otc? [02:32]
Cory That would be awesome. [02:32]
[\\\] Rebroad: o.0 [02:32]
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[\\\] Rebroad: I am offering 1 btc [02:32]
vragnaroda Rebroad: You can offer. [02:32]
smickles ;;sell 1 house at "118400/{mtgoxlast}" btc about 1140 sq. ft. (not counting basement) 3 bedroom 1.5 bath. 2400 W Broadway, Columbia, MO [02:33]
gribble Order id 7029 created. [02:33]
smickles srsly [02:33]
nanotube heh [02:33]
[\\\] smickles: Is that your address? [02:33]
smickles it's my house, i don't live there right now [02:33]
Rebroad smickles, how do I do that but converting GBP please? [02:33]
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smickles ;;bc,convert [02:34]
gribble 1 BTC = Domain cost - Dot-BIT [02:34]
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nanotube Rebroad: it's in the ,,guide :) add *{usd in gbp} [02:34]
gribble Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc [02:34]
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nanotube see the 'advanced order pricing features' [02:35]
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smickles ;;echo that's [calc 24114/1140] btc per square foot [02:36]
gribble that's 21.1526315789 btc per square foot [02:36]
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pingdrive ;;ticker [02:36]
Rebroad ;;sell 1 house at 30000 btc http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-37037291.html [02:37]
gribble Order id 7030 created. [02:37]
smickles there's a decent fenced in yard too [02:37]
nanotube ok, i'll be happy if one of those actually sells. :) [02:37]
Judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for a moneypak? [02:38]
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smickles nanotube: I'll be happy if either sell too :) [02:38]
errydayimgenerat hot diggity [02:39]
imsaguy Actually, if anyone is looking for a house in Indiana, I have one to sell. [02:39]
vragnaroda OMG, let's get a bitcoin housing bubble going. [02:39]
imsaguy lol [02:39]
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Rebroad homes4bitcoins.com [02:40]
smickles ;;rent 1 house @ "850/{mtgoxlast}" btc per month [02:40]
smickles nanotube: get ;;rent working :P [02:40]
nanotube smickles: haha well, just put in a sell order. ;;sell 1 "month of rent" @ whatever. [02:41]
imsaguy ;;sell 1 urmom @ -10 btc [02:42]
gribble Order id 7031 created. [02:42]
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imsaguy ;;remove [02:42]
gribble (remove ) -- Remove an outstanding order by . [02:42]
vragnaroda wat [02:42]
imsaguy ;;remove 7031 [02:42]
gribble Order 7031 removed. [02:42]
imsaguy I thought a blank remove used to remove all orders? [02:42]
nanotube imsaguy: it used to. but it doesn't anymore [02:43]
imsaguy ;;remove * [02:43]
nanotube because other commands just show help without arguments... people sometimes accidentally nuked their entire book... and were not happy. [02:43]
imsaguy who accepts moneypak still? [02:43]
imsaguy nanotube: then the proper response is: RTFM [02:43]
smickles imsaguy: is there some reason why people shouldn't accept MP? [02:43]
nanotube imsaguy: yes it was for a while. but i figured it was a valid design issue. [02:44]
Rebroad MP? [02:44]
vragnaroda nanotube: hehe, and the proper response to imsaguy should have been RTNFM [02:44]
vragnaroda Rebroad: MoneyPak [02:44]
nanotube vragnaroda: hehe true [02:44]
imsaguy smickles: well, other than MP shutting you down once you start to get a business going with it, no. [02:44]
a5m0 imsaguy, delivered? [02:44]
rg damn peoplea re dumb [02:45]
imsaguy yes, lemme plug the last one in. I was procrastinating. [02:45]
smickles imsaguy: can't you get a merchant processing account somehow? [02:45]
rg since our WHMCS prices say $0 for some stuff [02:45]
rg they order it [02:45]
imsaguy smickles: not anymore [02:45]
rg thinking itll get filled [02:45]
rg or something [02:45]
imsaguy AML [02:45]
imsaguy bbiab [02:45]
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Judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for a MP? [02:50]
nicksy34 . [02:51]
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smickles ;;ticker [02:51]
gribble Best bid: 4.949, Best ask: 4.94975, Bid-ask spread: 0.00075, Last trade: 4.949, 24 hour volume: 44390, 24 hour low: 4.86319, 24 hour high: 4.98888 [02:51]
EasyAt Judement [02:52]
EasyAt Judgement51: pm? [02:52]
Judgement51 sup [02:52]
randumbum ;;guide [02:52]
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rawrmage .t aest [02:53]
markac Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:53:06 AEST [02:53]
rawrmage time <3 [02:53]
vragnaroda .t IST [02:53]
markac Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:23:22 IST [02:53]
Mouseface WTB 18 btc [02:53]
vragnaroda .t MTC-4 [02:53]
markac vragnaroda: Sorry, I don't know about the 'MTC-4' timezone. [02:53]
rawrmage vragnaroda: hehe, i just do that because i need to talk to someone in aest and i'm too lazy [02:53]
rg i just noticed [02:54]
rg our billing system hasnt updated since last Sunday [02:54]
rawrmage the price? [02:54]
vragnaroda rawrmage: It's 02:25:50 (MTC-4) [02:54]
rg heh yeah [02:54]
rawrmage vragnaroda: i'm not talking to anyone MTC though :P [02:54]
rg this guy on the forum just told me that i should tell linode to accept bitcoin [02:54]
vragnaroda Well, the 40-something minute delay would get irritating. [02:54]
rg if not, theyll go elsewhere [02:54]
rg why teh fuck would i do that [02:55]
vragnaroda rg: lol [02:55]
rawrmage vragnaroda: oh [02:55]
rawrmage ic [02:55]
rawrmage :> [02:55]
rawrmage we need a sentient mars rover [02:55]
rawrmage to talk to [02:55]
Mouseface anyone WTT btc for mp? [02:55]
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rawrmage vragnaroda: you seem to like mars a lot [02:55]
rawrmage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjo4mFzBGoc [02:56]
vragnaroda rawrmage: Mars is the closest place where a colony would be practical. [02:56]
rg How many of us use Linode? I do and I asked if they would accept Bitcoin as payment in the IRC channel and I got laughed at. If there are enough of us, we should sign a petition to Linode telling them they we will take our business elsewhere(bitVPS?) if they don't start accepting Bitcoin as payment. [02:56]
rg Maybe the owner of bitVPS can get something like this going. [02:56]
rg am i missing something here [02:56]
rg or is he telling me to tell another business to change so they can continue to get business [02:57]
rawrmage lol [02:57]
phraust ;;view [02:58]
gribble #7009 Wed Feb 29 17:18:46 2012 phraust SELL 1.0 MoneyPak @ 202.11 BTC (I have 3x $1,000.00 MoneyPaks, looking for trusted sellers.) [02:58]
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rg im such a turd [03:01]
rg i came in here to get my laptop [03:01]
rg chatted on irc [03:01]
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rg then left.. withut my laptop [03:01]
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NASDAQEnema the classic plot of the digital wild west [03:01]
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rawrmage rg: irc, not even once [03:04]
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rg its official.. [03:08]
rg rawrmage is some sort of pizza demon [03:08]
rawrmage wat [03:08]
rg this is gay! [03:08]
rg i changed all the passwords on bitvps [03:08]
rg just cause [03:08]
rg now theyre no longer funny statements [03:09]
rg theyre ust random characters [03:09]
rawrmage what [03:09]
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[\\\] Anyone know how to make an email acc with an API? [03:11]
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smickles what does the api need to allow? [03:13]
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rg ;;ticker [03:14]
gribble Best bid: 4.9498, Best ask: 4.94989, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000000001e-05, Last trade: 4.9498, 24 hour volume: 43978, 24 hour low: 4.86319, 24 hour high: 4.98888 [03:14]
[\\\] smickles: creating addresses, sending and receiving emails [03:14]
[\\\] and by receiving, I mean forwarding [03:14]
ne0futur ;;gettrust imsaguy [03:15]
gribble Trust relationship from user ne0futur to user imsaguy: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 20 via 13 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ne0futur&dest=imsaguy [03:15]
mircea_popescu and here we have it, the stocks allocation : [03:16]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultatele-subscriptiei-publice-martie/ [03:16]
[\\\] I got 1100 SHARES??? [03:17]
[\\\] Awesome! [03:17]
mircea_popescu well if you control that addy yes you have. [03:17]
rawrmage aww [03:18]
rawrmage i forgot to buy some [03:18]
Judgement51 is anyone willing to trade coins for a MP? [03:18]
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mircea_popescu aww rawr [03:19]
mircea_popescu you buy next time. [03:19]
Cory mircea_popescu: Nice $444k company. [03:19]
mircea_popescu yeah innit. [03:19]
* mircea_popescu hopes not to dissapoint. [03:20]
Cory rawrmage: You can buy from somebody who alrready bought. [03:20]
mircea_popescu 446 too, don't gyp me! [03:20]
mircea_popescu i workt hard for each k :D [03:21]
[\\\] Anyone want to sell me web hosting for 2 days? [03:21]
[\\\] nvm [03:22]
[\\\] Well [03:22]
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[\\\] if they can offer unlimited email addresses [03:22]
[\\\] I want it. Now. [03:22]
smickles maybe [03:22]
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[\\\] smickles: Right now? [03:22]
[\\\] smickles: Ill pay 2 btc for 2 days [03:22]
smickles im not sure how to do it [03:23]
[\\\] smickles: nvm then XD [03:23]
rawrmage [\\\]: sure [03:23]
Cory mircea_popescu: Good luck selling 90000 BTC @ 4.9 right now. :P [03:23]
[\\\] rawrmage: Ok [03:23]
mircea_popescu hahaha why'd i sell 90k btc tho [03:23]
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Cory If we're valuing the dollar value of MPOE. :P [03:23]
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mircea_popescu well it's all virtual [03:24]
mircea_popescu so far. [03:24]
extor So who here does SEO campaigns on the cheap [03:24]
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btchero2 i keyword when i hear about keywords, do you know of keywords? sometimes keywords can be cool, other times keywords are lame. keywords keyword [03:26]
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mircea_popescu lol [03:26]
* mircea_popescu dreams of 90k btc... [03:26]
mircea_popescu at 90k usd each... [03:27]
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mircea_popescu welcome back mr cop [03:30]
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copumpkin hi :) [03:31]
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copumpkin mircea_popescu: did I get 1/1,000,000,000 [03:31]
copumpkin ? [03:31]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultatele-subscriptiei-publice-martie/ [03:31]
copumpkin Felicitari cistigatorilor [03:32]
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copumpkin sweet, I am a shareholder! [03:32]
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mircea_popescu Felicitari cistigatorilor = congrats to the winners. [03:34]
mircea_popescu and yes you are. how does it feel ? [03:34]
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copumpkin amazing! [03:35]
[\\\] Can anyone sell me some cpanel hosting for 2 days? [03:36]
smickles mircea_popescu: did i do it right this time? [03:36]
mircea_popescu do what smickles ? [03:36]
smickles buy an option, remember... I fucked up a little last time ;) [03:36]
mircea_popescu a lemme look [03:37]
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mircea_popescu yup you included no exercise address. MUST INCLUDE!!!1 addy where benefits go [03:37]
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[\\\] Never mind, I found one [03:39]
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mircea_popescu dja get that smickles ? [03:39]
smickles aw shit, mircea_popescu can I send you one now? [03:39]
mircea_popescu yes please. [03:40]
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Cory [\\\]: Change your nick and who did you find? [03:40]
smickles sent [03:40]
[\\\] Cory: random site that seems to work lmao [03:40]
Cory Link? [03:41]
a5m0 buying: 1x 5970 or 6990, selling: 5 yubikeys, 1 dual 2.8ghz xeon server/computer, pm for details [03:41]
[\\\] Cory: securesignup.net [03:41]
bitcoin looking to buy btc with MoneyPak. Anyone interested? [03:42]
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copumpkin bitcoin: nice original name you got there [03:43]
rawrmage [\\\]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjo4mFzBGoc [03:43]
[\\\] rawrmage: no [03:43]
bitcoin my other username is matthew_ [03:44]
rawrmage [\\\]: :> [03:44]
smickles mircea_popescu: why don't you have a webform with little *REQUIRED fields? [03:44]
mircea_popescu cause im a sadist ? [03:44]
smickles i guess that makes me a masochist [03:44]
mircea_popescu webform defeats the purpose cause it'd be myown server sending the mail and so you get no lifelink there. [03:45]
mircea_popescu in this particular case, had you used a form you'd be shit outta luck cause i couldn't verify you. [03:45]
smickles ah, maybe i should think things through before i type things on irc :x [03:45]
[\\\] Holy crap, not instant setup [03:45]
[\\\] Can anyone get it for me _now_? [03:45]
rawrmage NO [03:46]
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mircea_popescu why be different smickles ? :D [03:48]
mircea_popescu now ofcourse im ever so curious if actually anyone buys/sells in aftermarket. [03:49]
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Rawl123 Cory, Got my pm's?:) [03:51]
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dirkdizzler HI [03:56]
rawrmage HI [03:56]
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rawrmage hydroiodic acid [03:56]
rawrmage .wa HI density [03:56]
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markac hydroiodic acid->density;1.701 g/cm^3 (grams per cubic centimeter);1.701 kg/dm^3 (kilograms per cubic decimeter);1.701 mg/mm^3 (milligrams per cubic millimeter);0.001701 g/mm^3 (grams per cubic millimeter);1701 kg/m^3 (kilograms per cubic meter);1.701 t/m^3 (metric tons per cubic meter);1.701;~~ 0.54 × halavah density ( 3.142 g/cm^3 );~~ 1.2 × mean solar density ( 1408 kg/m^3 );~~ 1.3 × mean Jupiter density (~~ 1 [03:56]
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bitcoin where can i go for a technical question? [03:58]
vragnaroda That depends on the nature of the question. [03:58]
bitcoin regarding how I can't access my nick [03:59]
rawrmage #freenode [03:59]
bitcoin I can eauth it with gribble just fine, but when I /nick, it's "already in use" [03:59]
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vragnaroda Is it registered with NickServ? [04:01]
vragnaroda If so, /msg nickserv help ghost [04:01]
vragnaroda If not, pick a different nick and hope the person using it hasn't registered it for next time. [04:01]
nanotube ;;ident nanotube [04:02]
gribble Nick 'nanotube', with hostmask 'nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube', is identified as user nanotube, with GPG key id E7F938BEC95594B2, and key fingerprint D8B11AAC59A873B0F38D475CE7F938BEC95594B2. [04:02]
nanotube bitcoin: ^ [04:02]
nanotube it tells what user i'm authenticated as. [04:02]
* nanotube is now known as notnanotube [04:02]
notnanotube ;;ident notnanotube [04:02]
gribble Nick 'notnanotube', with hostmask 'notnanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube', is identified as user nanotube, with GPG key id E7F938BEC95594B2, and key fingerprint D8B11AAC59A873B0F38D475CE7F938BEC95594B2. [04:02]
* notnanotube is now known as nanotube [04:02]
vragnaroda notnanotube! [04:02]
vragnaroda liar! [04:02]
nanotube haha [04:02]
dirkdizzler who goes there [04:02]
DingoRabiit ;;auth DingoRabiit [04:03]
* imsaguy is now known as nanotubeOFFICIAL [04:04]
nanotubeOFFICIAL sup guys [04:04]
nanotubeOFFICIAL make sure to donate to gribble, loves noms [04:04]
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* nanotubeOFFICIAL is now known as imsaguy [04:04]
DingoRabiit Buying 20ppusd [04:04]
vragnaroda I love how nanotubeOFFICIAL gets cropped to nanotubeOFF. [04:04]
imsaguy it doesn't on my client [04:05]
rawrmage vragnaroda: only for you~ [04:05]
* imsaguy is now known as nanotubeON [04:05]
nanotubeON just for vragnaroda [04:05]
* nanotubeON is now known as imsaguy [04:05]
vragnaroda rawrmage: Nah, I'm sure there are others with the same theme. [04:05]
imsaguy perhaps, doesn't mean they will admit it [04:05]
vragnaroda lol [04:05]
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DingoRabiit imsaguy: buy my coins? [04:07]
imsaguy how many? [04:07]
imsaguy make me an offer I can't refuse. [04:07]
DingoRabiit imsaguy: $20 worth [04:07]
DingoRabiit hmmm [04:07]
DingoRabiit HMMM [04:07]
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imsaguy don't be giving out hummers, this is the wrong channel for that. [04:07]
smickles 20 for 1 btc, nice [04:07]
bitcoin last try: anyone willing to take MoneyPak for bitcoins? [04:08]
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DingoRabiit ahahahaaha 4.2? [04:08]
DingoRabiit ahahahaaha 4.2? fer 20> [04:09]
DingoRabiit ^ was meant to be a question mark [04:09]
rg ;;ticker [04:09]
gribble Best bid: 4.90583, Best ask: 4.90584, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000000005e-05, Last trade: 4.90583, 24 hour volume: 47116, 24 hour low: 4.86, 24 hour high: 4.98888 [04:09]
imsaguy ok [04:10]
rg anyone buying [04:10]
rg i gotta pay some rnet [04:10]
rg rent [04:10]
imsaguy Judgement51 was trying to sell a mp [04:10]
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imsaguy he used to be one of my guys until greendot went stupid [04:10]
rg Judgement51: how much [04:10]
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sagia12 anyone trying to sell a mining rig? [04:14]
imsaguy probably [04:14]
dirkdizzler like a full rig or just cards [04:14]
imsaguy I dunno [04:14]
sagia12 full rig [04:15]
sagia12 mb, cpu, card i got everything else [04:15]
Joric specifically on bitcoinica: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66961 [04:15]
sagia12 or a whole one [04:15]
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dirkdizzler i should build rigs and sell them for ahefty profit [04:16]
dirkdizzler maybe sell them on ebay and accept paypal [04:16]
mircea_popescu Many of you have heard that several bitcoin services were victims of a recent Linode security breach today. Unfortunately, Bitcoinica is also among the services affected. [04:16]
mircea_popescu On 2013-03-01 at 6:30 UTC, our "hot wallet" hosted at Linode and containing over 10,000 BTC was emptied. The unauthorized access is consistent with that experienced by other bitcoin services, described by Linode as unauthorized access from Linode's "customer support interface". [04:16]
mircea_popescu we were saying earlier rg ? [04:16]
mircea_popescu you don't know how many they took. [04:16]
mircea_popescu rake is over 13k [04:16]
dirkdizzler whammy [04:17]
BTCHero wow [04:17]
dirkdizzler it was a planned heist [04:17]
BTCHero arent all heists [04:17]
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sagia12 BTCHero........no some are just random acts of opportunists [04:19]
Joric in short zhou was blagged on 10 grand last night [04:19]
paraipan ;;ping [04:19]
gribble pong [04:19]
mircea_popescu +3k from slush [04:19]
mircea_popescu this just what we know so far. [04:19]
copumpkin Joric: 10 grandcoins [04:20]
Cusipzzz wow [04:20]
mircea_popescu there's maybe more. [04:20]
sagia12 wow [04:20]
sagia12 how? [04:20]
mircea_popescu if mtgox comes out with... i dunno, 50k ? [04:20]
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Joric sagia12, linode hack [04:20]
imsaguy so basically, zhoutong got zhoutong'd [04:21]
Joric finally! [04:21]
mircea_popescu im guessing this might well put him in the red overall ? [04:21]
mircea_popescu i don't imagine he cleared 50k usd so far. [04:21]
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inau3 damn, 3 of us + ineededausername [04:21]
mircea_popescu what happened to ineededausername ? [04:22]
sagia12 are they still giving 50btc for a block? [04:22]
inau3 he died and i'm his ghost [04:22]
rg oh man [04:22]
rg bitcoinica got pwned [04:22]
rg it happened! [04:22]
[\\\] I found it [04:22]
rg but it wasnt really their fault [04:22]
[\\\] Wait WHAT [04:22]
[\\\] 02:22am] rg: [05:22:40] bitcoinica got pwned [04:23]
[\\\] oh shit... [04:23]
Joric not sure will it cause bigger or smaller price both ends seem logical [04:23]
BTCHero so, does this mean that the short button is perma starred? :) [04:23]
rg im sure bitcoinica was holding more than 10,000 btc though [04:23]
[\\\] Also, anyone here familiar with cpanel API? [04:23]
mircea_popescu for sure they were holding more [04:23]
sagia12 with it being a virtual "token" arent they uniquely identifed in some way? [04:23]
mircea_popescu just, likely not owning more i dun think. maybe. [04:23]
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rg i wonder if zhou is able to pay the users 50k [04:24]
Joric if ~15k was just extracted from the turnaround price would only grow [04:24]
mircea_popescu 15k is only 300 blocks [04:24]
mircea_popescu sooo... who wants puts ? [04:25]
mircea_popescu or who wants calls ? [04:25]
[\\\] Anyone good with the cpanel API? [04:25]
[\\\] If they can help me, ill tip a bitcoin [04:25]
Joric everybody, withdraw your money from bitcoinica! ) [04:25]
[\\\] Joric: Already done [04:25]
rg its gone bro [04:25]
copumpkin he said he was covering it all [04:26]
BTCHero nooo I have at least 0.25 btc in there [04:26]
rg thats some rough shit man [04:26]
copumpkin shoulda used bitvps, amirite [04:26]
BTCHero my baby is going to starve [04:26]
Joric i'm sorry for your loss [04:26]
rg i tried to sell it to him [04:26]
rg he didnt want it [04:26]
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BTCHero did someone take care of judgement51? [04:27]
imsaguy just as long as you aren't in the chicago DC [04:27]
imsaguy :-x [04:27]
Joric i guess zhou just will increase the buy/sell spread to 1 btc :D [04:27]
extor whats wrong with dcs in chicago [04:27]
imsaguy not all dcs in chicago [04:27]
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extor omg I just thought of a funny acronym [04:28]
imsaguy urmom? [04:28]
Joric eg. 4.90 on mtgox, 4.4 / 5.4 on bitcoinica ) [04:28]
imsaguy gotta make it up somehow [04:28]
imsaguy tomorrow zhou will announce double spread day [04:28]
copumpkin double spend day! [04:28]
mircea_popescu spandex day [04:29]
Joric i like the latter more [04:29]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: so when's the next issue? [04:29]
Joric double withdraw day [04:29]
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rg people better be making a stink to linode [04:30]
btchero2 sorry for being stupid, but what exactly is linode? [04:31]
Cusipzzz rg: linode is not going to do a thing..maybe a free month or two..lol'd [04:31]
[\\\] Crap, bitcoinica withdraw is not working [04:31]
[\\\] :( [04:31]
rawrmage LOL [04:31]
Joric what does it say? [04:31]
imsaguy surprise surprise [04:31]
Joric 'sorry, fuck yourself'? [04:31]
imsaguy buncha winners in here [04:31]
nanotube btchero2: it's a vps provider. [04:31]
mircea_popescu early april copumplin [04:32]
rawrmage everyone's trying to get funds out so they probably closed it [04:32]
mircea_popescu linode = vps service btchero2 [04:32]
copumpkin BANK RUN [04:32]
copumpkin copumplin? :P [04:32]
rg theyll have to do something... [04:32]
copumpkin that's a cute name [04:32]
rg these are huge losses [04:32]
rg and no fault of the customer [04:32]
mircea_popescu cooopumplin :D [04:32]
mircea_popescu are you plump an' in ? [04:32]
Cusipzzz well, if he did lose his hot wallet, he can't proces withdrawals until he fires up the cold storage. [04:32]
rg it would be an interesting court case [04:33]
mircea_popescu no until he hots up the frozen bullet. [04:33]
rg itd be like the good wife! [04:33]
nanotube rg: lol [04:33]
rg theyll have to decide if bitcoins a currency or not [04:33]
mircea_popescu judge'd be all like [04:33]
Joric bitcoinica should hold price still at any cost to avoid closing current positions [04:33]
btchero2 well couldn't they just make them pay back btc [04:33]
mircea_popescu so give them some of those pixels and stfu [04:33]
mircea_popescu it's not like a truck anyway [04:33]
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rg zhou probably has like a million bitcoins [04:34]
mircea_popescu nowai rg. [04:34]
mircea_popescu he has high 5 figures, maybe 100k. [04:34]
rawrmage zhoutoshi nakamotong [04:34]
mircea_popescu of which maybe 10% are his. ergo... [04:34]
pingdrive rawrmage, lol [04:34]
mircea_popescu he just got wiped. [04:35]
mircea_popescu slush lost like 4-5 months of work too, it's about where it is. [04:35]
Joric he just got zhoutonged [04:35]
rawrmage Joric: hahahhahahaha [04:35]
rg im sure we're just beginning to hear [04:35]
rg all the hsit [04:35]
rawrmage i think bitcoinica has the best chance of suing linode [04:36]
smickles bitcoinica wallet got stolen? [04:36]
rawrmage yea [04:36]
rg no [04:36]
rg just some of it [04:36]
rawrmage well, 10k btc [04:36]
pingdrive anyone know what the bitcoininca address that got emptied? [04:36]
rawrmage which is a large 'some' [04:36]
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pingdrive i want to look it up [04:36]
rg no [04:37]
pingdrive is [04:37]
smickles damn, that's a pretty good thief, assuming they get away with it [04:37]
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rg maybe [04:37]
rg linode will have called teh fbi by now [04:37]
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extor woa! another bitcoin scandal? [04:37]
smickles so they stole something like 15k btc total now? [04:37]
rg even if the dude got caught [04:37]
rg its not like anyone would get their btc back [04:37]
mircea_popescu something like that smickles. [04:37]
mircea_popescu PEOPLE!!! ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!! THE BTC IS TANKING!!! [04:38]
mircea_popescu buy puts! [04:38]
smickles :D [04:38]
rg i wonder how they plan to dispatch these btc [04:38]
Joric why linode? did gavin, zhou and slush decide to keep all coins together? ) [04:38]
extor buy puts on bitcoinica, have them 100% backed by a singapore LLC lawl [04:38]
extor good luuuuuck [04:38]
rg Joric: its just a big VPS provider [04:39]
rg generally reputable [04:39]
rg until this [04:39]
extor has the cause of the hack been traced? [04:39]
extor Cuz I'd suspect the 15 year old's lack of admin skills in the likely suspects [04:39]
mircea_popescu not on bitcoinica extor. on mpoe! [04:39]
smickles whoever did is is a bit of an ass for taking the faucet coins :/ [04:39]
mircea_popescu nana extor, was a hole in the admin package [04:39]
Joric mysql exploit, unescaped chars in inputs [04:39]
extor s/suspect/add [04:40]
copumpkin extor: that's right, be an asshole [04:40]
rawrmage lol [04:40]
extor in the admin package that bitcoinica ran on? [04:40]
rg no [04:40]
slush smickles: I don't think that attackers even known what services are running on those machines... [04:40]
copumpkin in the linode admin interface [04:40]
mircea_popescu that linode ran on [04:40]
copumpkin extor: but don't hestitate to make assumptions and be an asshole [04:40]
rg linode has an admin interface where you can run system stuff from [04:40]
copumpkin please [04:40]
rg the admin can execute on all machines [04:40]
smickles slush: good point [04:40]
extor Im sorry I forgot there would probably be a lot of 13 year old l33t mysql coderz to blame too [04:40]
rg so they scanned for bitcoind's [04:40]
rg and owned everything that had one [04:41]
Joric slush, someone did transfer funds to a single address, didn't he [04:41]
slush rg: actually it looks that they attacked only accounts with machines listening on 8333 [04:41]
extor I bet RealSolid is having a field day [04:41]
slush but it's just my opinion, I don't have any evidence [04:41]
mircea_popescu VMW port ? [04:41]
rg slush: hehe thats kinda what i just said [04:41]
Joric turn all your worthless btc into solidcoins! [04:41]
rg Joric: shut your mouth [04:42]
extor ok so did these guys empty the wallets already or are they still just creating new wallets and spreading all the coins [04:42]
slush Joric: attacker used more wallets. As an example gavin's coins come to different wallet than my coins [04:42]
extor Also, if the original wallet is still on the server does that help AT ALL? [04:42]
mircea_popescu might just be diff adresses same wallet no? [04:42]
mircea_popescu not at all extor. [04:42]
slush mircea_popescu: maybe [04:42]
rg now we just have to find his bitcoind address [04:42]
rg and ./own him [04:43]
mircea_popescu and do waht with it ? [04:43]
mircea_popescu send it small ammounts of change ? [04:43]
rg use the secret bitcoind backdoor [04:43]
ageis extor read the thread on bitcointalk [04:44]
vragnaroda [21:38] < extor> | buy puts on bitcoinica, have them 100% backed by a singapore LLC lawl <-- (a) That's not what bitcoinica's for. (b) Rule of law in Singapore is not a joke. [04:46]
mircea_popescu so basically this means no more bitcoind on vps ? [04:46]
AdamGiunta Anyone need a 60 day WoW timecode for 4BTC? I send first! :D [04:46]
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rawrmage on linode [04:46]
rg no more bitcoind on linode vps [04:46]
mircea_popescu right. [04:46]
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mircea_popescu others are different because the 0days haven't been yet used. [04:47]
sagia12 is every bitcoin unique? [04:47]
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rg people run bitcoind on bitvps, but theyre smart [04:47]
copumpkin sagia12: bitcoins aren't a unit [04:47]
rg they firewall it [04:47]
mircea_popescu this had no fw ?! [04:47]
extor yeah rule of law in singapore probably grants debt immunity to the officers of Ltds doesn't it vragnaroda ? [04:47]
sagia12 well it can be split down to .00000000 right? [04:47]
copumpkin the whole point of a ltd is debt immunity [04:47]
mircea_popescu hence the ltd. [04:47]
* extor nods [04:47]
copumpkin in any country [04:48]
copumpkin S.R.L! [04:48]
mircea_popescu or that. [04:48]
vragnaroda Well, not debt *immunity* but *limitation*. [04:48]
copumpkin sure [04:48]
mircea_popescu yes, limited liability. [04:48]
mircea_popescu in most cases to the subscribed capital. [04:48]
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sagia12 copumpkin.....if btc is not a unit what is it? [04:49]
copumpkin sagia12: satoshis are the real unit here! [04:49]
ahbritto rg: How can you tell your firewalled customers are running bitcoind? [04:49]
rg cause i checked [04:50]
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vragnaroda lol [04:50]
rg default ports only though [04:50]
rg time out = -j DROP'd, connect refused = not running [04:51]
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rg the king of the hill when bobby loves jesus is on [04:53]
imsaguy you watch that show? [04:53]
Ukto ill be honest, hot and cold storage wallets should be offsite from whever shits hosted, and make occasional calls to the server via encrypted commun. to check for work to do (send payments) [04:53]
ageis i hate that show [04:54]
rg i dont [04:54]
rg i love hank hill [04:54]
vragnaroda Ukto: I'll be honest; cold foods should be stored in the refrigerator and the refrigerator only opened occasionally (when taking stuff out or putting stuff in or cleaning it). [04:55]
vragnaroda That show was great in like 1999. [04:55]
rg vragnaroda you dont like anything [04:55]
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vragnaroda That's not true, rg. [04:56]
Joric official disclaimer http://status.linode.com/2012/03/manager-security-incident.html [04:57]
vragnaroda I like good manicotti. [04:57]
Joric 'All activity by the intruder was limited to a total of eight customers, all of which had references to "bitcoin".' [04:57]
Joric linode is safe, it's all bitcoin ! [04:57]
vragnaroda rg: I also like HFCS and MSG. [04:57]
pirateat40 mixed [04:58]
pirateat40 its the best of sweet and sour. [04:58]
xgdaa ;;gpg eregister xgdaa 70947F96DE27C7D1 [04:59]
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smickles pirateat40: don't you mean tart in place of sour? [05:00]
pirateat40 oh yea [05:00]
pirateat40 bitter more like [05:00]
smickles sour wold be some kind of acid, right? [05:01]
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ageis not necessarily :/ [05:02]
mircea_popescu ouch 8 [05:02]
mircea_popescu we know 3. [05:02]
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pirateat40 citric acid to be exact [05:03]
mircea_popescu Security is our number one priority and has been for over eight years. We depend on and value the trust our customers have placed in us. Now, more than ever, we remain committed to ensuring the safety and security of our customers' accounts, and will be reviewing our policies and procedures to prevent this from ever recurring. [05:03]
mircea_popescu seems like they're not gonna pay. [05:03]
Joric rg, what do you personally think about this disclaimer http://status.linode.com/2012/03/manager-security-incident.html it looks unnatural [05:04]
rg lets take a peak [05:04]
pirateat40 mircea_popescu, they wouldn't take about paying for damages until it was finalized on the total cost. [05:04]
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mircea_popescu im just saying their posturing seems to indicate they won;'t consider damages. [05:04]
imsaguy jcpham, I got a bug fix the next time you're hacking [05:04]
pirateat40 For anything I would payout to secure their business. [05:04]
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rg wow [05:05]
Joric linode should pay! in bitcoins [05:05]
rg i cant believe how theyd try to be like 'it was only 8 accounts!' [05:05]
imsaguy jcpham: the monitor scrip reports disabled gpus as error/0 hash gpus. perhaps disabled gpus need a different color [05:05]
rg its a HUGE fuck up [05:05]
imsaguy only 8 accounts worth 100k USD [05:05]
Cusipzzz they will give a few months credit, at most. [05:05]
mircea_popescu do we even know who the other 5 are ? [05:06]
mircea_popescu was it gox ? cryptoex ? etc ? [05:06]
xgdaa ;;gpg eregister member:xgdaa 70947F96DE27C7D1 [05:06]
mircea_popescu i think cusipzzz is right. [05:06]
nanotube well, if they all get together to put pressure on linode, maybe they'll have better success [05:06]
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Joric if any other leak pops up linode would be totally fucked [05:06]
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nanotube xgdaa: have you reviewed the gpg docs? [05:06]
xgdaa yes, im having issues [05:07]
mircea_popescu i imagine linode won't pay on the general principle that the damages are like, 1k months of vps service. they can't afford that write-off so they'll just ignore it [05:07]
mircea_popescu on thegrounds that they go out of business either way. [05:07]
xgdaa it may be the cannbis, im not entirely sure [05:07]
xgdaa cannabis* [05:07]
smickles dont blame the drugs, [05:07]
smickles it's not thier fault [05:08]
Joric don't worry hackers only got 8 accounts related to silkroad [05:08]
xgdaa @smickles i think a fair amount of my current state of disarray can be fairly blamed on them, but that's not necessarily a bad thing [05:08]
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mircea_popescu yea, seems the easier way to cop out, what joric says [05:09]
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mircea_popescu good morning -otc [10:47]
jine Good morning, and good night. [10:48]
mircea_popescu tada [10:48]
coingenuity sup mircea_popescu [10:48]
mircea_popescu not much coingenuity, im just beaming after my IPO :D [10:49]
mircea_popescu sorta walking an inch above the ground [10:49]
coingenuity oh, nice! [10:49]
coingenuity i didnt know you had one, for what business? [10:49]
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mircea_popescu here's the results http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultatele-subscriptiei-publice-martie/ [10:50]
mircea_popescu and here's the announcement http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/ [10:51]
coingenuity interesting, mircea_popescu [10:51]
mircea_popescu ieee [10:51]
coingenuity i wish there was an english translator on your site somewhere hehe [10:52]
mircea_popescu well the announcement has an engluish version [10:52]
mircea_popescu first line [10:52]
mircea_popescu the results should be kinda transparent, it's mostly numbers no ? [10:52]
mircea_popescu but if not ask, you do get translations on demand np. [10:53]
mircea_popescu just leave a comment saying you want one. [10:53]
coingenuity wait, so you sold off 50% in the IPO? [10:53]
mircea_popescu .1% [10:53]
coingenuity those ` [10:53]
coingenuity confuse me lol [10:53]
coingenuity cool, pretty solid [10:54]
mircea_popescu yeee [10:54]
coingenuity ;;calc 90.85 * 1000 [10:54]
mircea_popescu doing nice business too, on the operational side. this month might see record retunrs [10:54]
coingenuity what does the business even do? [10:55]
coingenuity i can;t really decipher the romanian :P [10:56]
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a5m0 they make money talking about making money [10:58]
rg hehe [10:58]
rg ask mirceas sexy wife to read it to you [10:58]
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a5m0 pics or it didn't happen [10:58]
mircea_popescu coingenuity : there's a link to an english version in the first line [10:58]
mircea_popescu it says "if you can't read romanian there's an english version here" [10:59]
mircea_popescu a5m0 why the hate!11 [10:59]
a5m0 wanting proof isn't hating [11:00]
a5m0 it's just being a doubting thomas [11:00]
mircea_popescu you know you can just verify all transactions as they occur by inspecting the address ? [11:00]
mircea_popescu all revenue/profit/etc can be independently audited by anyone that cares to do so. [11:01]
a5m0 yeah we can tell that they occured but we don't know why or from whom, so what do they prove? [11:01]
mircea_popescu that they occured ? [11:01]
mircea_popescu what else could you prove ? [11:01]
a5m0 "why or from whom" [11:01]
mircea_popescu i don't think you can actually prove this irl either, you just assume [11:01]
mircea_popescu what would you expect on a cryptocurrency tho ? [11:01]
a5m0 someone to not beat around the bush at least [11:02]
mircea_popescu i don't imagine there's ever going to be a btc business that can answer this [11:02]
bizong Would anyone be willing to sell me 3 BTC for 20 USD through paypal? [11:02]
* mircea_popescu scratches head. [11:02]
a5m0 i don't know why [11:02]
a5m0 you could just answer the question [11:02]
a5m0 or provide sexy picture of your wife [11:03]
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a5m0 they're both acceptable [11:03]
errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [11:03]
MrTiggr a5m0: the anonymity is lost at the exchanges ...while the trades exist as btc transactions they are (kinda/pseudo) anonymous ..but if you wanna turn it into say USD or AUD or EUR then, you do it at an exchange and that requires ID [11:03]
MBS lol, rackmount atoms on sale [11:03]
MBS http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.837877 [11:03]
mircea_popescu what q a5m0 ? [11:03]
coingenuity interesting mircea_popescu [11:04]
a5m0 it wasn't even my question, but you keep changing the subject "coingenuity> what does the business even do?" [11:04]
mircea_popescu it trades options. [11:04]
a5m0 see that wasn't so hard [11:04]
mircea_popescu i thought that was obvious, didn't mean to change question. [11:04]
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ne0futur bitcoinica still not crediting my deposit after . . . 31 confirmations . . . if its their server still synching . . . its real slow . . . [11:16]
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mircea_popescu ne0futur they lost a wallet [11:16]
mircea_popescu if you sent there it's likely lost. [11:16]
ne0futur i sent after all that [11:16]
mircea_popescu a a a ok then. [11:16]
mircea_popescu they might have manual controls now. [11:16]
ne0futur after they said "no deposit to old adresses deposit page give new addresses" [11:16]
mircea_popescu should be fine then [11:17]
mircea_popescu poor kid incidentally. [11:17]
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Ukto mircea_popescu: who ? [11:19]
mircea_popescu the bitcoinica kid [11:19]
Ukto i thought he sold out? [11:19]
mircea_popescu what's his name, o he did ?! [11:19]
mircea_popescu what exactly did he sell out ? [11:19]
splatster Looking to buy Gox USD or BTC with PP. [11:19]
Ukto mebbe i misunderstood, but I thought some other company bought it from him [11:20]
mircea_popescu link ? [11:20]
mircea_popescu i never heard of this. [11:20]
Ukto nothing on hand [11:20]
Ukto just expressing what I thought someone had mentioned to me [11:20]
mircea_popescu if it happened it must be very fresh i think [11:20]
Ukto as I said, could have been a misunderstanding [11:20]
bizong buying 3BTC for 20 USD Paypal. [11:21]
splatster ;;getrating bizong [11:22]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [11:22]
splatster lolno [11:22]
splatster bizong: ;;guide [11:22]
splatster type that ^ [11:22]
bizong ;;guide [11:23]
bizong Just need a few extra btc for a purchase and wanting it pretty quickly is all. [11:23]
splatster bizong: You are unrated, so it is hard to trust that you won't chargeback me, or anyone else for that matter. [11:26]
ironzorg how can he be rated if nobody trusts him at least once ? [11:26]
splatster ironzorg: You start off with other stuff. [11:27]
bizong yeah i understand, im just hoping i can find someone who will lend me their trust :) [11:27]
splatster PP = unsafe. Escrowing GPUs/other hardware = safe. [11:27]
NASDAQEnema splatster: or shares of vps lol [11:29]
splatster Yup. [11:29]
splatster I started off buying people pizza and giving out loans. [11:29]
bizong haha thats awesome [11:30]
splatster Now I'm on to the riskier shit because people trust me. [11:30]
bizong yeah i've gone through the whole process of gaining trust on one of my frequented websites, to be able to sell stuff. [11:31]
mircea_popescu ironzorg some people will give newcomers a little trust to help them establish [11:31]
Coolty 3 [11:32]
muff1nman bizong, i may be able to help you out give me a few [11:32]
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FireWalkerX ;;buy BTC [11:34]
muff1nman ;gpg eauth muff1man [11:35]
muff1nman ;;gpg eauth muff1man [11:35]
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FireWalkerX ;;buy 10 BTC at "1.05 * {mtgoxlast}" DKK Bank transfer [11:38]
gribble Order id 7036 created. [11:38]
mircea_popescu dkk is that korea ? [11:40]
FireWalkerX nope, danish :-) [11:40]
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mircea_popescu a :) [11:42]
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vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Korea uses KRW (South) and KPW (North). [11:44]
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mircea_popescu would have been cool if it was [11:44]
mircea_popescu KRW and KLW [11:44]
vragnaroda lol [11:45]
mircea_popescu hehe [11:45]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: The Korean terms for Korea don't use L/R. :p The North uses 'Joseon' to refer to all of Korea and the South usees 'Hangook' [11:45]
errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [11:46]
vragnaroda (Yes, they even disagree on the name of their country.) [11:46]
mircea_popescu hey, if youi want i can tell you all about balkans political complications that flared up recently [11:47]
mircea_popescu i friend just mailed me a 5 page hysterical letter of desperation. [11:47]
mircea_popescu it's all about people disagreeing on the proper name of kosovo [11:47]
vragnaroda lol [11:47]
mircea_popescu guy was like, im going to give up the service and become a farmer. [11:48]
mircea_popescu after all a rose by any name... [11:49]
vragnaroda ... grows best in shit? [11:49]
mircea_popescu hahaha [11:50]
mircea_popescu something like that. [11:50]
vragnaroda ;) [11:50]
mircea_popescu well really people say this but animal waste is way too acidic. [11:50]
mircea_popescu i actually have a compost pile behind my house [11:50]
mircea_popescu its much better a solution. [11:50]
ironzorg beginners question: are these sites trusted ? flexcoin, InstaWallet or MyWallet [11:50]
ironzorg they are listed on http://www.weusecoins.com/, so I guess they are [11:51]
mircea_popescu never heard of any of them myself [11:51]
vragnaroda I'm sure someone trusts them. [11:51]
mircea_popescu but never heard anyone calling them scams either [11:51]
ironzorg they're for creating an online wallet [11:51]
ironzorg I guess I'll just use the official binaries then ;) [11:51]
vragnaroda I've heard of instawallet but I wouldn't use an online wallet, anyway. [11:52]
ironzorg why is that [11:52]
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ironzorg I cn think of a few reasons, but tell me please [11:52]
vragnaroda Because I don't see a point in them to be honest. [11:53]
vragnaroda They require a lot of trust for the wallet holder, though. [11:53]
mircea_popescu +1. [11:53]
mircea_popescu so in the end, looking on some preliminary data from my one day old research and analysis desk [11:54]
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mircea_popescu the first exchange to take btc to china wins. [11:54]
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vragnaroda There are Chinamen operating exchanges. [11:55]
mircea_popescu theoretically there may be a 1bn usd waiting for btc in china. [11:55]
mircea_popescu I would like to inform users and customers of GLBSE that we are not effected by the recent security breaches of Linode and those services that use them. [11:56]
mircea_popescu well this is good news. [11:56]
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bitcoinTrader hi [12:00]
bitcoinTrader buying LR [12:00]
muff1nman buying MtGox for PP [12:01]
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Ukto anyone here in china ? [12:01]
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Coolty Ukto: no u [12:04]
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errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [12:10]
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crizzlesbuttons hello everyone :) [12:20]
crizzlesbuttons My name is Crizzle and I accept BitCoin for pinback buttons I make! Peep my site at http://crizzlesbuttons.ecrater.com [12:22]
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crizzlesbuttons To pay with BitCoin, click on 'terms' for details [12:22]
mircea_popescu good luck crizzle [12:23]
crizzlesbuttons All BitCoin transactions are handled over email and/or phone so you can be assured that I am a real person [12:23]
crizzlesbuttons Hey thank you :) [12:23]
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crizzlesbuttons I also got BitCoin buttons, all purchases shipped USPS, tracking numbers issued upon payment [12:24]
crizzlesbuttons I also do Custom work :) [12:25]
crizzlesbuttons I also do deals on quantity [12:26]
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crizzlesbuttons peace :) down with fiat money! [12:27]
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errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [12:36]
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rg I would like to inform users and customers of GLBSE that we are not effected [12:39]
rg affected [12:39]
rg I would also like to enform all userz dat I cant spel [12:39]
errydayimgenerat he's romanian [12:40]
errydayimgenerat he doesn't know any better [12:40]
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rg lol [13:05]
rg reading fake computer stuff in TV shows [13:05]
rg right now they have a 'SMS' trace [13:05]
rg but it shows a traceroute under [13:05]
rg starting route: san jose, CA [13:05]
rg but the show takes place in Maryland [13:05]
rg ;P [13:05]
splatster *facepalm* [13:08]
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splatster 127.9.7 is an IP address! [13:08]
splatster TV IS NEVER WRONG! [13:08]
splatster BLASPHEMY TO ALL THOSE WHO SAY OTHERWISE! [13:09]
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splatster "How many ladies in the house? How many ladies in the house without a spouse? Something in your blouse got me feeling so aroused. What you about?" [13:14]
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errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [13:20]
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mircea_popescu who! who said my name! [13:25]
mircea_popescu rg lol well... misspells i can take, if they're not in code :p [13:25]
mircea_popescu errydayimgenerat hater, i was quoting nefario. [13:26]
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errydayimgenerat you're a hater [13:28]
rg sell all new zitcoins on mtcox.com! the new bitcoin! [13:29]
errydayimgenerat i'm going to star in a bitcoin themed porno called mount cocks [13:30]
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Blitzboom where was it mentioned that it was 8 instances that were attacked? [13:35]
neofutur http://status.linode.com/2012/03/manager-security-incident.html [13:36]
Blitzboom thanks [13:36]
Blitzboom "only eight accounts were affected" [13:36]
Blitzboom lol [13:36]
neofutur 38 confirmations still not credited [13:37]
Blitzboom yeah great, only eight accounts with potentially tens of thousand of BTC each [13:37]
Blitzboom "38 confirmations still not credited" what? [13:37]
neofutur hopig bitcoinica wont liquidate me because they re unable to credit my deposit [13:37]
neofutur bitcoinica [13:37]
Blitzboom dude [13:37]
Blitzboom why are you using bitcoinica? [13:37]
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Blitzboom they will explode sooner or later [13:37]
neofutur I sent after the announce to the new deposit adres [13:37]
Blitzboom bitcoinica gets hacked the 2nd time and you send it more BTC? [13:38]
neofutur beacause I already have a position and need to support it [13:38]
Blitzboom and you work with gox? [13:38]
Cusipzzz lol [13:38]
neofutur I am allowed to use bitcoinica [13:38]
Blitzboom that’s not the point [13:38]
neofutur not your business, thats the point [13:38]
Blitzboom you should understand that bitcoinica will probably explode :P [13:38]
neofutur I do [13:38]
Cusipzzz it's like casino workers..they are not allowed to gamble in their own casinos, so they go to the competition [13:38]
Blitzboom i’ve been warning everyone for a while now [13:38]
neofutur I m also allowed to use mtgox [13:38]
Blitzboom it will happen again [13:38]
Blitzboom and they will go bankrupt eventually [13:39]
neofutur I m not a mtgox employee and have no access to sensitive data [13:39]
Blitzboom bitcoinica offers 10:1 and 5:1 leverage [13:39]
neofutur just selling a service to mtgox [13:39]
Blitzboom it WILL blow up [13:39]
neofutur sure [13:40]
Blitzboom ok, enough ranting [13:40]
Blitzboom thx for the link neofutur [13:40]
errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [13:40]
neofutur Blitzboom: I just try and use more or less all the bitcoin related businesses, with funds i decided I can loose [13:42]
neofutur and already lost for a good part :p [13:42]
Blitzboom i’ve used them myself a couple of times [13:43]
Blitzboom and sometimes am tempted to because they offer shorting [13:43]
neofutur which allows to have a good knowledge of the bitcoin system and economy, and be able to give good advices [13:43]
Blitzboom but it’s not worth the risk to me anymore [13:43]
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neofutur and yes one of my biggest advices is : [13:43]
neofutur sont use bitcoinica [13:44]
neofutur Dont use bitcoinica [13:44]
Blitzboom (the risk that bitcoinica will go bankrupt due to exploit) [13:44]
neofutur even before this big linode hacking fiasco [13:44]
Blitzboom yeah, they have had this security flaw for withdrawals alrready [13:44]
Blitzboom they were lucky [13:44]
neofutur but they really are not responsible for this linode fiasco [13:45]
neofutur everyone have to trust their datacenter [13:45]
Blitzboom they shouldn’t have used a VPS [13:45]
neofutur vps or dedicated is the same thing [13:45]
Blitzboom why? [13:45]
neofutur if you hack the datacenter console [13:45]
Blitzboom so? [13:45]
Blitzboom they couldn’t have hacked 8 dedicated once at once [13:45]
Blitzboom ones* [13:45]
neofutur you can rebbot the server in rescue mode, access the disk, change the root password . . . [13:45]
Blitzboom at least that’s what i believe [13:46]
neofutur i could do that on 8 servers in less than 30 mins [13:46]
neofutur no problem [13:46]
Blitzboom then hack gox plz [13:46]
Blitzboom :P [13:46]
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neofutur not speaking of hacking something [13:46]
neofutur but rebooting 8 servers in rescue mode at the same time and change root password is real easy [13:47]
neofutur if you control the datacenter console [13:47]
Blitzboom i have no clue about this stuff [13:47]
Blitzboom but what i see is that everyone used linode and that’s why they got raped [13:47]
Blitzboom centralization [13:48]
mircea_popescu usipzzz> it's like casino workers..they are not allowed to gamble in their own casinos, so they go to the competition << lol [13:48]
mircea_popescu neofutur : didja try MPOE ? [13:48]
neofutur not yet [13:49]
neofutur gotta go out of bitcoinica first [13:49]
mircea_popescu lol good point there. [13:49]
mircea_popescu +1 on the centralization too [13:49]
mircea_popescu only thing that can kill btc. [13:49]
rg LOL [13:50]
rg apparently [13:50]
rg someone sourced my web page and theyre claiming copyright for my template [13:50]
rg .. my template that i wrote myself [13:50]
neofutur ps: you have the worst SEO I ever seen for MPOE [13:50]
rg they want $500 western union or bank transfer [13:50]
rg :P [13:50]
coingenuity lololol rg [13:50]
coingenuity thats what happens when you.....use html? [13:50]
rg this is a good scam though [13:51]
rg i bet theyre making money [13:51]
coingenuity i wouldn't be surprised [13:51]
errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [13:51]
coingenuity what, 5% of companies who get the email will know their shit is custom written? [13:51]
rg lots of people use pirated templates [13:52]
rg like.. lots [13:52]
neofutur mircea_popescu: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpolimedia.us%2Fbitcoin%2Foptions.php&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0 [13:52]
ulhepaphlo http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-02-29/the-germany-website-copy-machine#p1 [13:52]
neofutur No Character Encoding Found! Falling back to UTF-8. [13:52]
neofutur Unable to Determine Parse Mode! [13:52]
neofutur : no document type declaration; will parse without validation [13:52]
neofutur mircea_popescu: i d never even register on such a website . . . [13:53]
mircea_popescu that's good cause you can not register [13:53]
neofutur and its normal you have the worst SEO I ever seen [13:53]
mircea_popescu there's no registration. [13:53]
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neofutur hum understand regiter as trust [13:53]
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rg who cares about SEO [13:54]
mircea_popescu i think you shouldn't trust a service based on a website [13:54]
mircea_popescu but that's me. [13:54]
rg its marketed to people in this channel [13:54]
rg and on a forum [13:54]
mircea_popescu and yes, rg has it : i do not want seo traffic. [13:54]
rg you dont need anymore SEO than that [13:54]
neofutur if you cant even have a doctype on the website, you just dont know html [13:54]
rg people who want to use it / will be interested in it [13:54]
mircea_popescu seo traffic = noobs gambling. [13:54]
rg know about it [13:54]
neofutur 711 errors . . .probably a world record [13:54]
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mircea_popescu lol im opff to do shopping, but will be back we can discuss css then :) [13:55]
neofutur i dont want to hurt you , just giving you my opinion / hoping to help being honest [13:55]
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muff1nman buying mtgox or BTC for PP [14:19]
errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [14:20]
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bitcoinTrader hi [14:33]
bitcoinTrader #mtgox [14:36]
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errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [15:01]
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Greed So uh [15:14]
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Greed Motherfucking dingdongs [15:14]
Greed All of Bitcoinica's money is gone [15:14]
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Greed Bitcoinica, Bitcoin Faucet, Slush's pool, and more [15:16]
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errydayimgenerat yeah waht's that mean for everyone [15:19]
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mcorlett Greed: I prefer to call it "redistribution of wealth." [15:31]
Greed Whatever you call it, it shouldn't have happened. [15:32]
abracadabra *yawn* [15:33]
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Ukto actually slush didnt loose "Everything", they only took what happened to be in the hot wallet [15:37]
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Greed I'm aware [15:42]
Greed Good that they're all covering it themselves [15:43]
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errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [15:48]
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bobgee Hi anybody from australia selling bitcoins? pm me [15:58]
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mcorlett bobgee: Check in #ozcoin. A lot of Aussies in there from what I hear. [16:01]
bobgee mcorlett Thank you [16:02]
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GlooBoy ;;eauth GlooBoy [16:07]
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errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [16:12]
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helo the more you do, the more likely you are to get caught [16:13]
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mircea_popescu ahhh back from shopping [16:14]
mircea_popescu 20kgs of coffee, 8 cartons of ciggs, dozen bottles fo wine, half dozen champagne, coupla cognac and old rum. [16:15]
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mircea_popescu start-up food! [16:15]
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ne0futur goos lection for shopping, I mostly have the same needs ;) [16:16]
mircea_popescu :) [16:16]
mircea_popescu there was no seo in my shopping tho :D [16:16]
ne0futur but not champagne or cognac here, too expensive in Peru [16:16]
ne0futur and peruvian champagne is s**t [16:16]
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mircea_popescu here (in Romania) is very cheap and very good. VERY good. [16:16]
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ne0futur no doctype or charcter encoding either ? those are cheap and good you know ;) [16:16]
mircea_popescu heheeh [16:17]
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errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [16:23]
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errydayimgenerat or tbage wanna buy some bitcoins? :P [16:23]
tbage totes [16:23]
errydayimgenerat where phily are you? :P come pay cash teehee [16:24]
tbage dope [16:24]
errydayimgenerat dope is everywhere [16:24]
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mircea_popescu dope is like god [16:27]
errydayimgenerat except it's real and tangible [16:27]
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jcpham all of those things mircea_popescu are unneccessary [16:29]
jcpham the booze, the caffeine, the tobacco [16:30]
coingenuity agreed jcpham [16:30]
coingenuity buy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus instead [16:30]
coingenuity as i am about to do [16:30]
jcpham even worse is a throwaway electro-thingy [16:31]
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coingenuity jcpham: my phone is 4 years old, and i do a /lot/ of work from my mobile :( [16:31]
coingenuity its needed pretty badly [16:31]
jcpham throw it down and break it already and get a new one [16:31]
coingenuity exactly [16:31]
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coingenuity oh, you mean from my carrier? [16:32]
coingenuity fuckno they're all terrible phones [16:32]
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coingenuity i'm importing this from out of the country [16:32]
jcpham i tend to hang on to a phone for as long as possible [16:32]
jcpham so you are going bleeding edge [16:32]
coingenuity i usually do, with phones [16:32]
coingenuity get one really nice cutting edge phone that'll do me for 2 years or more [16:33]
jcpham i ignore the mobile/app world entirely [16:33]
errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [16:33]
jcpham touch screen keyboards will be the death of me [16:33]
coingenuity lol! [16:34]
coingenuity that's why i've delayed for so long jcpham [16:34]
coingenuity can't find a decent android with qwerty [16:34]
coingenuity but, this thing has a 4.7 inch display...so i should be able to type OK, esp if i use swype or w/e [16:34]
occulta i have nexus [16:35]
occulta since release day [16:35]
occulta 3 months old now :P [16:35]
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tbage ditto [16:36]
tbage the galaxy nexus is fucking fantastic [16:36]
tbage except for the screen issues [16:36]
jcpham http://www.krtv.com/news/severe-weather-outbreak-likely-today-from-ohio-to-alabama/ [16:36]
tbage :( [16:36]
jcpham last year we had a 186mile tornado [16:36]
occulta screen issues like? [16:36]
tbage pure white [16:37]
tbage go to a pure white screen [16:37]
coingenuity tbage: screen issues? [16:37]
tbage you'll see dark splotches [16:37]
tbage and bands [16:37]
tbage and then you cannot unsee them [16:37]
occulta not for me [16:37]
tbage and you will notice them in the other colors [16:37]
jcpham don't listen to him coin [16:37]
* coingenuity googles [16:37]
occulta lmao [16:37]
coingenuity its not fud [16:37]
tbage the razr doesn't have the same problems [16:37]
occulta the screen is perfect [16:37]
occulta my* [16:37]
tbage the screen is very good [16:37]
errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire [16:38]
imsaguy2 just get a 7inch tablet with keyboard dock [16:38]
tbage i've looked at four of them [16:38]
imsaguy2 bam, you've got everything you need [16:38]
BTCHero I live in ohio am i going to die? [16:38]
bobgee Hi is there a uk otc/ [16:38]
bobgee ? [16:38]
tbage all have some darkness issues visible on a white screen [16:38]
imsaguy2 BTCHero: we can only hope. [16:38]
occulta if you purposefully put a pure white screen, and stare at it to look for flaws, thats pretty sad :) [16:38]
BTCHero :) [16:38]
coingenuity i think it could be a problem with the video driver tbage [16:38]
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coingenuity it will probably resolve with updates [16:38]
jcpham put WINDOWS 8 on it [16:38]
tbage occulta: it happens when you're browsing the internets, using a draw app, etc [16:38]
tbage coingenuity: source? [16:39]
occulta coingenuity: i dont see any of this, in 3 months ive noticed nothing, its the best screen on a phone ive ever seen.used [16:39]
ne0futur bobgee: /msg alis list *bitcoin-otc* [16:39]
coingenuity http://news.softpedia.com/news/Galaxy-Nexus-Plagued-with-Screen-Issues-Connectivity-Problems-241645.shtml [16:39]
ne0futur will give you the lists of otc channels [16:39]
ne0futur if no -uk, its here [16:39]
coingenuity occulta: tbage thank you both for your thoughts, i appreciate it [16:39]
bobgee ne0futur thanks [16:39]
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coingenuity it seems that the only solution is a good google to see what has been discovered about it [16:40]
errydayimgenerat selling mtgox usd or btc or dwolla for wells fargo to wells fargo wire or cash deposit [16:40]
occulta for those who dont use bitcointalk, here are my listing for amazon gift cards > http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?sortby=price&sortorder=ASC&type=&nick=&thing=&otherthing=&eitherthing=&notes=amazon [16:40]
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occulta sometimes forget this is a selling channel :) [16:40]
tbage coingenuity: i use custom roms, multitouch is solved, connectivity is 'sort of' resolved with custom radios.. still a problem [16:41]
tbage but when 4g is 'working' its great [16:41]
coingenuity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXQQzyYfRrg [16:41]
coingenuity tbage: yeah, i was planning on using a custom rom off the bat if there were issues with stock ICS [16:41]
tbage stock ICS is solid [16:41]
tbage but [16:41]
coingenuity good to know XDA fixed the bugs, those smart fellas.. [16:42]
occulta im on 4.0.3 official, and i dont have any issues that ive noticed, i used to care that deeply about how my phone operated, but not anymore :) [16:42]
tbage custom rom + kernel is :D [16:42]
tbage multitouch was fixed in AOSP [16:42]
coingenuity cyan's prolly on top of it too, yeah? [16:43]
occulta i ran cyanogenmod, but found it had more problems that stock, im happy with stock rooted until i need anything more [16:45]
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coingenuity hmmmm [16:46]
tbage cyan's ICS is 'kang' and still alpha [16:46]
coingenuity doesnt look like i can get the gsm version anywhere in the usa yet from a 'legit' retailer [16:46]
tbage i've been using a fork of kang with upstream gerrit subs patched in [16:47]
tbage which is stable [16:47]
tbage and glorious [16:47]
coingenuity bah [16:48]
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coingenuity samsung doesn't even offer the gsm nexus on their site [16:48]
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Framedragger WTB 100 goxUSD / $100 worth of BTC via PPUSD or Swedbank transfer. [16:54]
Cory Any word from Linode? [16:55]
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tbage anyone trading pecunix [17:01]
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smickles ;;ticker [17:05]
smickles huh [17:06]
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mircea_popescu o wow picking back uop [17:18]
Framedragger WTB 100 goxUSD / $100 worth of BTC via PPUSD or Swedbank transfer.. :] [17:18]
mircea_popescu +12 cents or something [17:18]
neofutur :clear [17:21]
neofutur oups [17:21]
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mircea_popescu so is everyone asleep ? [17:25]
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imsaguy2 no [17:26]
neofutur why ? [17:26]
mircea_popescu just curious [17:27]
Framedragger imsaguy2, any chance you'd be selling BTC? I won't nag for eternity, just want some btc, argh. [17:27]
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DeLorean731 the market is bouncing back faster than I thought it would [17:31]
bobgee l [17:32]
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Joric i made a lot of money today, both shorts and longs though i could make more using 10:1 leverage [17:34]
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smickles DeLorean731: this bounce started out in a fishy way [17:35]
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smickles a 0 volume 20 cent jump in price [17:35]
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mircea_popescu ya [17:42]
mircea_popescu joric, what's a lot of money ? [17:42]
bit-joker ;; [17:43]
smickles 20 'bucks' is the threshold in my mind [17:43]
bit-joker how do I talk to Gribble? [17:43]
smickles after that, it get into various levels of 'shit ton' [17:43]
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kakobrekla !gribble [17:43]
gribble yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me? [17:43]
bit-joker Thanks! [17:44]
bit-joker !gribble [17:44]
Framedragger that bot's got some wit [17:44]
bit-joker :) [17:44]
smickles gribble, do you have an ,,eightball ? [17:44]
bit-joker LOL [17:44]
smickles er, need to auth for the full effect [17:44]
kakobrekla !roulette [17:44]
Joric mircea_popescu, well 25% on the way down and expecting 25% on the way up [17:45]
mircea_popescu i mean in absolute figures [17:45]
Joric 3094 btc! [17:45]
mircea_popescu haha pretty good ! [17:45]
smickles kakobrekla: take that to #bitcoin-games or something [17:45]
smickles gribble, do you have an ,,eightball ? [17:46]
gribble Come again? [17:46]
Joric jk i don't have that money [17:47]
kakobrekla i wont take it anywhere [17:47]
smickles http://imgur.com/kCJDW [17:47]
smickles really [17:47]
kakobrekla they have enough games there [17:47]
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smickles why did all the asks literally disappear in that 20 cent zone? [17:49]
smickles ,,voiceme you cold hearted bastard [17:49]
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abracadabra heh [17:49]
abracadabra that works? [17:49]
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smickles wit commas ;) [17:49]
abracadabra hehe [17:50]
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smickles abracadabra: i also do things like, " ,,letmein to you pleasant places" [17:51]
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abracadabra gribble is female? [17:52]
EvanR so what do you do if your roommate pays less than half the rent [17:52]
EvanR on purpose [17:52]
abracadabra kick them halfway out EvanR? [17:52]
abracadabra or maybe just throw their stuff out [17:52]
EvanR personally? [17:52]
EvanR what gives you the authority [17:53]
abracadabra or put a lock on the refrigerator [17:53]
mircea_popescu prolly unfunded asks smickles [17:53]
Cory EvanR: Do you want to kick him out? [17:53]
EvanR then he will pay even less [17:53]
mircea_popescu is it a girl or a boy evanr ? [17:53]
EvanR lol mircea_popescu [17:53]
mircea_popescu :) [17:53]
smickles EvanR: do you have a contract? [17:54]
EvanR if shes not going to pay me, shes probably not going to have sex with me if i ask [17:54]
abracadabra put a lock on the bathroom [17:54]
mircea_popescu you don't ask, you tell [17:54]
mircea_popescu and when she's done you also tell her to pay the fucken rent [17:54]
abracadabra that'll teach her [17:54]
EvanR mircea_popescu: id rather tell her to pay the rent [17:54]
mircea_popescu and then you tell her some friends are coming over for dinner and so she'd better cook [17:54]
abracadabra sammiches? [17:54]
mircea_popescu and when they're there... welll... she might as well start earning her pay. [17:54]
EvanR back to reality [17:54]
mircea_popescu it's how it goes. [17:54]
mircea_popescu I SAW IT IN A MOVIE ONCE [17:54]
EvanR i dont want shit, i want money [17:55]
smickles EvanR: if you had a contract, she broke it, kick her out [17:55]
EvanR there is no contract [17:55]
mircea_popescu walk up quietly behind her and http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Kick_468cc8_2621970.jpg [17:55]
smickles EvanR: also, i know that that if you let them get away with that shit now, they will take more money later [17:55]
EvanR yeah [17:55]
mircea_popescu ya, womenz are liek that. [17:56]
EvanR im about to pay half the rent [17:56]
EvanR that leaves a difference of 38 dollars [17:56]
EvanR and the management will be pissed [17:56]
smickles EvanR: who's on the management's contract? [17:56]
EvanR both of us [17:56]
EvanR i guess they might be on my side [17:56]
smickles well, you should pay it because you are obligated to pay the full amount [17:57]
EvanR but i would hate to rely on a source of external authority [17:57]
EvanR smickles: i know that [17:57]
Cory It's probably a joint and several liability issue with your landlord. Both of you are liable if that's the case. [17:57]
EvanR he needs to pay 38 [17:57]
smickles i would explain the situation to management and figure out how to remove yourself from the contract [17:58]
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EvanR i would gladly move out [17:58]
EvanR but its 1 year lease [17:58]
mircea_popescu why;'d you make a joint contract anyway [17:58]
EvanR thats how they do it [17:58]
smickles you don't want to be tied to a grifter like that [17:58]
mircea_popescu sucks. [17:59]
mircea_popescu for shoe-on-head fetishists : http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4549/photo51tl9.jpg [17:59]
mircea_popescu (sfw) [18:00]
smickles do whatever you can to get out now, before it gets worse and you owe like 6 months of rent [18:00]
EvanR been there done that, dont want to be there again [18:00]
EvanR (owing a lot of money which some bitch expects ME to pay) [18:00]
EvanR for some bs reason [18:00]
mircea_popescu so drop the entire rent on bitcoins [18:00]
mircea_popescu wait to be evicted. [18:00]
mircea_popescu blame her. [18:00]
mircea_popescu ??? [18:00]
mircea_popescu profit. [18:00]
EvanR lol [18:00]
EvanR i have options for where to move next [18:01]
* mircea_popescu wonders if in fact the girl told evanr he owes that much for her abortion. [18:01]
EvanR but getting out of a serious ass lease.... [18:01]
Cory Perhaps you'll have to take her to court. [18:01]
EvanR court >_< [18:02]
Cory You or your landlord could do this since her name's on the lease. [18:02]
mircea_popescu over 38 dollars ? [18:02]
EvanR he has a real problem with stuff being worth it [18:02]
mircea_popescu sometimes i wonder when did imaginaryland get internet [18:02]
EvanR he has a very different worth evaluation mechanism [18:03]
mircea_popescu basically one big stamp going "not worth it" ? [18:03]
EvanR he is probably expecting me to pay 38 because 'its only 38' [18:03]
smickles small claims court isn't economically viable until it's over 200 dollars [18:03]
Cory mircea_popescu: It would probably convince her to pay her rent every month, then. [18:03]
mircea_popescu depends if you count your time smickles. [18:03]
mircea_popescu cory maybe. or maybe convince her to not pay 50 next time [18:03]
mircea_popescu after all she needs to insure against lawsuyits [18:04]
smickles even then, there's no guarantee you'll get any money, even with a judgement in your favor [18:04]
EvanR yes the law is not the answer [18:04]
EvanR and screwing over the management is definitely not the answer [18:04]
bitcoinTrader any1 selling LR [18:04]
EvanR so i should walk in and take 38 dollars? [18:04]
smickles personally, i won a judgment for about 6000 usd, and there's likely no way i will ever see any of it [18:04]
Cory EvanR: She won't reason with you? [18:05]
EvanR our reasoning is like a 38 dollars gap on mtgox ;) [18:05]
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smickles EvanR: ethically, it seems to me she gave you permission to take something of hers, sell it, and give her the proceeds less 38 dollars [18:06]
EvanR less at least 38 [18:07]
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EvanR based on how hard it is to do something like that [18:07]
jcpham hi [18:07]
smickles EvanR: *service fees and interest not included ;) [18:07]
EvanR and thing is im basically paying for furnishing the place and the cable [18:08]
EvanR since he doesnt agree with any of that either [18:08]
EvanR and i was ok with that [18:08]
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EvanR but then this [18:08]
EvanR which is too far [18:08]
smickles give an inch, they take a mile... [18:08]
smickles it's only going to get worse [18:09]
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smickles does she have anything that -otc or a pawn shop would find valuable? [18:09]
EvanR im going to talk to the management [18:09]
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EvanR smickles: soubt it [18:09]
EvanR doubt [18:09]
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smickles really? pawn shops take a lot of stuff [18:09]
EvanR after i do that, i definitely would want to live there for a year [18:10]
EvanR would not [18:10]
EvanR talk about not worth it lol [18:10]
EvanR war zone [18:10]
Valalvax mircea_popescu: Well, I wasn't s a shoe on head fetishist, but I could be convinced to become one [18:10]
mircea_popescu :) [18:11]
Valalvax Is that you? [18:11]
mircea_popescu lol no, its some random nigerian girl. [18:11]
Valalvax Awww.... with a name like mircea, you could plausibly be a girl :( [18:11]
phraust Seems like a lot of trouble over 38$. [18:11]
mircea_popescu mircea is actually a male name [18:11]
EvanR phraust: so your solution is? [18:11]
mircea_popescu except for mircea monroe who is trolling it. [18:12]
Valalvax well...sounds feminine to me [18:12]
mircea_popescu just cause it ends in a doesn't make it feminine! [18:12]
mircea_popescu don't be an aist. [18:12]
EvanR he sounds foreign [18:12]
phraust Talk to the landlord to negotiate an out. [18:12]
EvanR not feminine [18:12]
EvanR phraust: sounds about right [18:13]
phraust Sucks though, they'll prolly fine you. To break a lease. But it's better than dealing with a douche. [18:13]
mircea_popescu take pictures of her asleep, post them on the interwebz [18:14]
EvanR its gonna be alot more than 38, plus they will not return the deposit [18:14]
mircea_popescu helps if her clothes are neatly folded away. [18:14]
EvanR mircea_popescu: sounds kinky, but not honorable [18:14]
mircea_popescu you can prolly make more than 38 [18:14]
EvanR also its not a girl [18:14]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: do we get share certificates? :) [18:14]
mircea_popescu haha copumpkin i was kinda thinking it'd be cool [18:14]
phraust Or pay the 38, in exchange for oral "services" [18:14]
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mircea_popescu problem is they'd cost some money, require shipping (thus an address_) etc [18:15]
EvanR phraust: as we said earlier doesnt make sense if shes not willing to pay shes not willing to 'pay' either [18:15]
mircea_popescu but i do think it'd be kind of cool [18:15]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: oh, I meant to just gpg --clearsign a bunch of text files with a standard form saying "I blahbalbhalbha X shares of MPOE" [18:15]
rawrmage lol [18:15]
mircea_popescu hm. you can just use the listing page, no ? [18:15]
imsaguy2 I blahbalbhalbha copumpkin [18:16]
mircea_popescu the 3rd [18:16]
phraust Zip ties and about a foot of garden hose can make people pretty agreeable. [18:16]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: you can take that down and change it at will later :P a signed statement you can't revoke later :P [18:16]
mircea_popescu would it help you if i attached a signed version of the post ? [18:16]
imsaguy2 shouldn't all of this had been thought of before you spent/sent the btc? [18:16]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: sure [18:17]
mircea_popescu ima do that then [18:17]
copumpkin imsaguy2: I don't really worry too much about his trustworthiness :P [18:17]
imsaguy2 then STFU [18:17]
mircea_popescu well imsaguy2, we're ironing out details [18:17]
mircea_popescu can only be done as you try things out [18:17]
* copumpkin shuts imsaguy2 the fuck up [18:17]
mircea_popescu i don't see a problem with adding gpg clearsigns [18:17]
imsaguy2 Its more indicative of the bitcoin problem [18:18]
imsaguy2 everyone just fumbling through instead of planning ahead [18:18]
* copumpkin fumbles with imsaguy2 [18:18]
imsaguy2 thank you domestic partner [18:18]
reeses shouldn't you be at work? you’re going to be fired soon with that attitude, copumpkin [18:19]
bitcoinTrader any1 selling LR/cryptoxchange coupon? [18:19]
imsaguy2 bitcoinTrader: bitinstnat [18:19]
imsaguy2 bitcoinTrader: bitinstant [18:19]
copumpkin reeses: I'm at work! I'm on a conference call [18:20]
reeses poor man [18:20]
reeses absolved [18:20]
bitcoinTrader imsaguy2: hit the 24 hr gox withdrawal limit [18:20]
imsaguy2 copumpkin: no webinar? [18:21]
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mircea_popescu copumpkin : reload the page. [18:21]
copumpkin imsaguy2: eww [18:22]
mircea_popescu i don't think there was actually any lack of planing, but hey. [18:22]
jcpham bam off at noon today [18:23]
pirateat40 Anyone needing Dwolla for PPUSD (trust needed of course)? [18:23]
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bitcoinTrader pirateat40: I need [18:26]
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pirateat40 ;;getrating bitcoinTrader [18:27]
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rawrmage .t aest [18:30]
markac Sat, 03 Mar 2012 02:30:42 AEST [18:30]
jcpham .t acst [18:31]
markac jcpham: Sorry, I don't know about the 'acst' timezone. [18:31]
jcpham .t acet [18:31]
markac jcpham: Sorry, I don't know about the 'acet' timezone. [18:31]
jcpham weak [18:31]
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bitcoinTrader ;;getrating pirateat40 [18:33]
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Rawl123 anyone interested in amazon goods worth of 35-45$? payment in Btc:D? [18:34]
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AdamGiunta I'm selling WoW 60 Day Codes for only 4BTC. I send first. Anyone interested? [18:35]
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mcorlett AdamGiunta: Are they reversible? [18:45]
AdamGiunta Reversible? [18:46]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49842.0 [18:46]
mircea_popescu buy french wine with btc [18:47]
copumpkin splendid. [18:47]
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mircea_popescu conspicuousconsumptionkin [18:49]
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mircea_popescu i should get a vanityvps going Mircea@Renewable.Energy.Got.Slavegirls.Working.The.Dynamo.us [18:50]
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copumpkin :o [18:50]
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mircea_popescu its renewable cause you can get new girls when thse run out see ? [18:51]
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neofutur I prefer something short like gw.gd :p [18:53]
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Cory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67044.msg779776#msg779776 "We just received another 12K BTC. It looks like the guy is dumping his collection on www.coinexchanger.com" [18:54]
mircea_popescu lol [18:54]
mircea_popescu what's coinexchanger.com ? [18:54]
mircea_popescu P.S. Just received a 80k deposit from someone wanting to play chess against my bots. [18:55]
mircea_popescu lolz [18:55]
copumpkin wow, someone bought some expensive puts [18:55]
phraust anyone interested in moneypak for btc? [18:56]
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[eval] i just received a 10K deposit from someone wanting some pizza??? [18:59]
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helo we are stuck in a time loop :/ [19:00]
mircea_popescu a buncha people actually bought expensive puts [19:01]
mircea_popescu tho i don't think that's going anywhere [19:01]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: I'm surprised :) [19:01]
mircea_popescu why ? im kinda bulish, always wasd. [19:02]
copumpkin do people often buy in-the-money options? [19:02]
copumpkin on your emporium [19:02]
copumpkin surprised that they did it, not that you don't think it's going anywhere [19:03]
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nelisky ;;rate FireWalkerX 1 bought with psc [19:07]
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FireWalkerX ;;rate nelisky 1 bought with psc for btc [19:09]
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EvanR claimed to not understand how much the rent is [19:11]
EvanR despite the webapp presenting it prominently on the payment screen [19:11]
EvanR dont know what to do >_> [19:11]
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hotinbit anyone looking for 1k moneypak or paypal......................................................i am looking for BTC or LR [19:11]
EvanR you can do 1k now? [19:12]
hotinbit offering 1BTC = 5.23 $ [19:12]
hotinbit yes [19:12]
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mircea_popescu copumpkin : not really by volume, but yes by value [19:13]
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mircea_popescu Bitcoinica lost 43,554 BTC from Linode compromise [19:17]
mircea_popescu jesus god!? [19:17]
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MBS hmm [19:23]
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MBS i totally dont need this [19:23]
MBS but sorta want it [19:23]
MBS http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JCGUDK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?t=slicinc-20&tag=slicinc-20&ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER [19:23]
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phraust ;;remove 7009 [19:25]
gribble Order 7009 removed. [19:25]
Framedragger WTB 100 goxUSD / $100 worth of BTC via PPUSD or Swedbank transfer [19:25]
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phraust Guess I'll use that money for something else. [19:25]
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thesexylilgirl ;) [19:32]
a5m0 just got my server in, came with a cat on the internet http://ge.tt/95mbkUE/v/0?c [19:35]
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phraust howd they stick it to the box? [19:35]
a5m0 claws [19:36]
a5m0 the cat is part of the cloud [19:36]
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Blitzboom RALLY? [19:38]
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mircea_popescu anyone here can put up news on ycombinator ? [19:38]
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BTCHero phraust, i bet if you had a few 500 moneypaks instead of 1000 ones you would have had more success? [19:39]
phraust next time. [19:39]
EvanR gadget [19:39]
reeses MBS: shave ice! a little souvenir of the islands! [19:39]
reeses it’s < 20, you need it [19:40]
MBS lol [19:40]
phraust Just ordered some more bitforces instead. kinda what the money was for anyhow. [19:40]
mircea_popescu seriously, nobody with an ycombinator acct ? [19:41]
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AnonX sup bros [19:43]
reeses mircea_popescu: yeah, but why not create one yourself? [19:43]
mircea_popescu cause i already have too many accounts. [19:43]
MBS hmm, anyone want to buy a thing to see act of valor or any other movie at your local theater? [19:43]
mircea_popescu the ods of me making more are pretty much zilch. [19:44]
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bitcoinTrader #bitcoin-police [19:45]
reeses what propaganda are you trying to spread? [19:45]
bitcoinTrader whts the channel for #bitcoinpolice [19:46]
Bigpiggy01Mining #bitcoin-police [19:46]
mircea_popescu just the notice that there is a bitcoin thing that ipod for a close to half mil implicit valuation. [19:46]
a5m0 buying: 1x 5970 or 6990, selling: 5 yubikeys, 1 dual 2.8ghz xeon server/computer, pm for details [19:48]
BTCHero MBS just one? how much? [19:52]
MBS 1.15 BTC [19:52]
reeses mircea_popescu: link? [19:53]
phraust mbxs, did you still have that ssd for sale? [19:53]
phraust *MBS [19:53]
MBS nah, sold it [19:53]
phraust poop. [19:53]
MBS listed it on amazon, sold quickly [19:53]
phraust that dockstar is awesome, btw. [19:54]
AnonX man the new btc client is really cool [19:55]
AnonX built in crypt thingy so even noobs like me can use it [19:56]
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BTCHero what version is that? [19:58]
mcorlett BTCHero: 0.6 [19:58]
BTCHero that isn't official is it? [19:58]
mcorlett Release candidate. [19:58]
mcorlett https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66887.0 [19:58]
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BTCHero is the qr code and sign message thing the only difference? [20:01]
mircea_popescu http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3657554 << spare an ycombinator point for a good cause [20:01]
mircea_popescu we want some positive messages coming out of bitcoin too. [20:01]
BTCHero oh shit, i didn't backup my wallet before running it. hope i don't ever need to go back to the old one. [20:02]
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mircea_popescu so how safe is a bitcoin-qt ver .5.x encrypted wallet ? [20:05]
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copumpkin how not to do PR for your company: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67044.0;all [20:12]
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mircea_popescu is tghis the coinexchange guy ? [20:13]
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mircea_popescu loli guessed it [20:13]
Cory Yeah, I don't what what he's thinking. [20:13]
mircea_popescu half hour earlier girl was [20:13]
mircea_popescu "you have to look at this. i want a raise" [20:13]
copumpkin your PR woman is much better than he is at PR :P [20:14]
copumpkin "haha, my competitor got screwed and his coins are getting sold on my exchange now. Everyone come join in the fun1!1!" [20:14]
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mircea_popescu kinda her point, yea. [20:14]
mircea_popescu also paraipan is beingvery helpful on the forums [20:15]
ulyedalplo so the bitcoinica is a millionaire, and their exchange was'nt even in the top 2 bitcoin exchanges [20:15]
ulyedalplo interstin [20:15]
mircea_popescu that guy would benefit from a good beating [20:15]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: how so? [20:15]
mircea_popescu it was not an exchange was it ? [20:15]
copumpkin ulyedalplo: they're not an exchange [20:15]
mircea_popescu cop : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67048.0 [20:16]
copumpkin ulyedalplo: they do more daily "volume" than most other exchanges [20:16]
ulyedalplo you mean including margin volume? [20:16]
mircea_popescu not really, 70k a day is like 10% mtgox innit ? [20:16]
ulyedalplo notional volume [20:16]
copumpkin ulyedalplo: it's a side bet service. You never actually buy or sell coins for delivery from them, unless you use the exchange tab, but then you don't get a margin [20:17]
ulyedalplo right, a currency futures exchange then. [20:17]
copumpkin you still never get delivery [20:18]
ulyedalplo yes, a futures contract doesnt require delivery if its cash settled [20:18]
OneFixt more like CFD [20:18]
OneFixt certainly not a future [20:18]
* copumpkin you always have the option to, even if most people don't [20:18]
ulyedalplo there are futures that have no concept of delivery, like a prediction market [20:18]
OneFixt futures have expiration dates [20:18]
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copumpkin futures are about delivery. There are things that have similar features to futures, but aren't futures :P [20:19]
Blitzboom we need more bitcoin derivatives [20:19]
Blitzboom with more leverage [20:19]
copumpkin Blitzboom: hell yeah [20:19]
Blitzboom with more 17 yo [20:19]
ulyedalplo no copumpkin, not according to the regulatory definition [20:19]
OneFixt more cowbell [20:19]
Blitzboom i want to short sell all the bitcoins x 10 [20:19]
ulyedalplo its called "financial settlement" or a "financial future" [20:19]
mircea_popescu i got an affliction... [20:19]
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mircea_popescu so buy puts blitz. [20:20]
OneFixt mircea_popescu: /- [20:20]
mircea_popescu lol [20:20]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: this site is too complicated for me [20:20]
mircea_popescu this is one of those rare months when i carry more put than call load on the book [20:20]
mircea_popescu then you shouldn't short anything. [20:20]
OneFixt ulyedalplo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_for_difference [20:20]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: why not? [20:20]
copumpkin Blitzboom: I'll sell you a CDS on pirateat40's debt [20:20]
mircea_popescu cause you're not read yyet [20:20]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: the site’s interface has nothing to do with it [20:21]
Blitzboom i want it comfortably on gox [20:21]
mircea_popescu i wonder how much merit his theory has [20:21]
Blitzboom i think gox is announcing that they will "soon" get out options for about a year now [20:21]
copumpkin you can use mircea_popescu's options to get leverage [20:21]
Blitzboom typical goxxing [20:22]
copumpkin even without bitcoinica! [20:22]
copumpkin zomg [20:22]
ulyedalplo non-deliverable FX forwards = NDFs [20:22]
ulyedalplo a non-deliverable forward (NDF) is an outright forward or futures contract in which counterparties settle the difference between the contracted NDF price or rate and the prevailing spot price or rate on an agreed notional amount [20:23]
ulyedalplo theyre pretty much the same as CFD.. except the cftc has some additional definitional language about cfd making them slightly diff [20:24]
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Framedragger ;;buy 20 BTC @ 4.91 PPUSD or Swedbank, have feedback. [20:24]
gribble Order id 7039 created. [20:24]
ulyedalplo i guess an NDF has a fixed date, and CFD no fixed date - the value is constantly adjusted with each omvement of the underlier [20:26]
mircea_popescu it's shocking how few btc people got ycombinator accts [20:26]
mircea_popescu either you folks aren't geeks or yc isn't really geekrelevant anymoar. [20:27]
ulyedalplo http://www.differencebetween.net/business/finance-business-2/difference-between-cfd-and-ndf/ [20:27]
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benjamindees ycombinator accounts as in? [20:31]
mircea_popescu as in an account on ycombinator ? [20:31]
ulyedalplo http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2893660/d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333 [20:31]
ulyedalplo the transaction was 1337 bytes [20:32]
ulyedalplo was the hacker taunting bitcoin? [20:32]
mircea_popescu lmao [20:32]
benjamindees mircea_popescu, the investment group? [20:32]
mircea_popescu yea [20:32]
benjamindees I've never really heard of it, but what do you mean by "account"? As a start-up you mean? [20:33]
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mircea_popescu nah, its just a news site. [20:35]
mircea_popescu sorta reddit. [20:35]
ulyedalplo damn broctopus [20:35]
ulyedalplo a linode employee has just retired early, thx to his bitcoin haul [20:36]
mircea_popescu 1/4 mn, kinda decent haul. [20:37]
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ulyedalplo sloww your roll brough [20:44]
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Saiga12 Whats up [20:45]
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Cephei_ Anyone want to sell 6btc for $32 paypal? [20:52]
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swarelis_ ;;view [20:54]
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tbage dudes doing some bitmixing [20:56]
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tbage hyptothetical question [20:57]
tbage could the majority of the bitcoin community [20:57]
tbage choose to collude [20:57]
tbage and validate transactions that reverse the stolen coin transacts? [20:57]
vragnaroda With modifications to the software, sure, but then it would no longer be bitcoin. [20:58]
vragnaroda It'd be some other protocol. [20:58]
vragnaroda That's not going to happen. [20:58]
tbage well it would be bitcoin [20:58]
vragnaroda No, it wouldn't. [20:59]
vragnaroda You can call it that all you want, but it isn't. [20:59]
tbage https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses#Attacker_has_a_lot_of_computing_power [20:59]
tbage o [20:59]
tbage can't [20:59]
tbage :) [20:59]
vragnaroda That's not what you were describing. [20:59]
tbage i'm sorry that i didn't communicate it properly [21:00]
tbage but thats what i mean [21:00]
ulyedalplo transactions can be reversed by a group of like-minded miners [21:00]
tbage yes [21:01]
tbage it would be interesting to have a client that supported this [21:01]
ulyedalplo at some point, theyll get together, form some rules and regulations, and enforce what payments are allowed, and which arent [21:01]
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bobgee m [21:02]
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mircea_popescu Buy: 5.13 Sell: 4.27 [21:06]
mircea_popescu guess the exchange [21:06]
occulta ;;remove 7016 [21:06]
gribble Order 7016 removed. [21:06]
Cephei_ Nobody wants to sell 6btc for $32 then? [21:07]
Cephei_ I really cbf with the bot system [21:07]
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OpenOcean Cephei_, I'll do that give me PPUSD [21:12]
OpenOcean ;;getrat Cephei_ [21:12]
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OpenOcean ;;bc,blocks [21:17]
gribble 169396 [21:17]
rg MORNING [21:17]
rg HAI [21:17]
rg ;;ticker [21:17]
gribble Best bid: 4.71809, Best ask: 4.71841, Bid-ask spread: 0.00032, Last trade: 4.71809, 24 hour volume: 134566, 24 hour low: 4.51, 24 hour high: 4.98888 [21:17]
OpenOcean by bitcoin is taking its time to bootstrap [21:18]
smickles ;;bids 4.68 [21:18]
gribble There are currently 1766.1168 bitcoins demanded at or over 4.68 USD, worth 8294.74438706 USD in total. [21:18]
OpenOcean been 1 minute and it hasn't started getting more blocks yet [21:18]
smickles someone by 8300 usd worth of bitcoins on gox right now, kthxby [21:19]
Staatsfeind ;;eauth vragnaroda [21:19]
Staatsfeind ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:567b289c789e4dce9edce24a4127bc4d57158ef1363e757b00e2aad2 [21:20]
gribble You are now authenticated for user vragnaroda with key B594FD658613B519 [21:20]
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AdamGiunta Is anyone interested in a WoW 60 Day Time Code for only 4BTC? I send first! :D [21:27]
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luke-jr anyhow, I need to finish up my BitFORCE auction… [21:28]
rg i think i might start buying games in here [21:28]
phraust what's the price up to luke? [21:29]
luke-jr $750 [21:29]
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OpenOcean ;;bc,blocks [21:29]
gribble 169397 [21:29]
rg didnt you pay something like $500 for it [21:29]
Y0nderboy that's a tidy profit. [21:29]
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AdamGiunta I am also selling an unused StarCraft II key for 7BTC. I send first! [21:31]
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rg its in teh water! [21:37]
rg cory pee'd! [21:37]
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Cory D:> [21:37]
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MBS rg, steam games? [21:43]
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Framedragger WTB 100 goxUSD / $100 worth of BTC for PPUSD / Swedbank. [21:46]
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a5m0 luke-jr, do you have any proof/videos of it? [21:47]
a5m0 and where is said auction? [21:48]
luke-jr a5m0: PM/-otc [21:48]
luke-jr a5m0: why bother with videos? [21:48]
luke-jr if you really want one, I can… but it's not really doing anything visible :P [21:49]
a5m0 i've never heard anyone confirm that BFL wasn't a scam, but i haven't looked to hard [21:49]
a5m0 i didn't know if you'd made a page for it or somethign [21:49]
rawrmage luke-jr: tonde [21:49]
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nanotube a5m0: well, luke is pretty trustworthy, if he says he's got one and it's mining... you can be pretty sure that is true. [21:49]
draco49 luke-jr, give him that URL you got showing it's stats.... [21:49]
a5m0 how long did you have to wait to get it after ordering? [21:50]
luke-jr a5m0: I've been asked not to discuss that in detail, but months [21:50]
a5m0 months is all i needed to hear [21:50]
Staatsfeind “Asked not to discuss that in detail” ← ⸘What the fuck‽ [21:51]
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mircea_popescu a5m0 thought a couple ppl got their bfls mining [21:53]
luke-jr a5m0: obviously the one I'm selling can ship sooner [21:53]
nanotube Staatsfeind: nice use of the interrobang :) [21:53]
Staatsfeind I liked it. ☺ [21:54]
luke-jr :P [21:54]
rg yea yea yea yea yea [21:54]
rg yea yea yea yea yea [21:54]
Staatsfeind nanotube: Also, I like that it fucks up rg's terminal. :þ [21:55]
draco49 it looks cool on my screen [21:56]
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nanotube Staatsfeind: haha [21:57]
Staatsfeind 你好， rg. [21:59]
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smickles ;;view [22:01]
gribble #7029 Thu Mar 1 16:33:08 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 house @ 25190 btc (about 1140 sq. ft. (not counting basement) 3 bedroom 1.5 bath. 2400 W Broadway, Columbia, MO) [22:01]
rg lol [22:01]
rg you live in teh ghetto [22:01]
rg 4real [22:01]
rawrmage lol [22:02]
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sysrun ;;guide [22:02]
Staatsfeind rg: You's a dick. [22:02]
* gribble gives voice to cablepair [22:05]
rg talkin it up [22:06]
rg on the barry gibb talk show [22:06]
rg talkin bout politics [22:07]
rg and crazy cool medalions [22:07]
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ageis you gettin comment karmeleon [22:08]
ageis on the reddits [22:08]
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WTBbtc hi there [22:09]
bitcoinTrader hi [22:11]
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WTBbtc hi there [22:14]
phraust indeed. [22:14]
WTBbtc i'd like to buy BTC [22:14]
phraust i bet you would. [22:14]
bitcoinsarefun ;;eauth [22:15]
Rawlxxx xD [22:15]
WTBbtc haha [22:15]
Rawlxxx Use Mtgox.com [22:15]
WTBbtc right, stupid sentence [22:15]
Rawlxxx hello there! Anyone interested in a 35$ Amazon account?:3 [22:15]
bitcoinsarefun ;;eauth bitcoinsarefun [22:15]
WTBbtc but it's impossible to buy BTCs with paypal transaction ? [22:15]
Rawlxxx Yep it is. [22:15]
Rawlxxx By trading with other people.. [22:15]
WTBbtc my guess was finding here some people wanting to sell some BTC [22:16]
Rawlxxx You could. [22:16]
Rawlxxx !Anyone interested in a 35$ Amazon account?:3 I could buy the goods for you , and you could gimme the btc's!:D [22:16]
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WTBbtc i need some bitcoin :( [22:17]
tbage smickles [22:19]
smickles yes [22:19]
tbage how are you going to arrange the sale of your house? [22:19]
tbage so i want to buy it ok [22:19]
tbage i send you the coins [22:19]
smickles thru my realtor [22:19]
tbage then you sell it to me for a buck? [22:19]
tbage lol [22:19]
tbage or what [22:19]
smickles we just use the standard contracts, but exchange bitcoin instead of cash [22:20]
tbage taxes? [22:20]
Rawlxxx smickles, how much for the house? j ust curious. [22:20]
smickles ;;view [22:20]
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gribble #7029 Thu Mar 1 16:33:08 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 house @ 25085 btc (about 1140 sq. ft. (not counting basement) 3 bedroom 1.5 bath. 2400 W Broadway, Columbia, MO) [22:20]
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rawrmage smickles: are you completely serious about this? cause that's totally cool [22:21]
smickles tbage: we would just use the FMV of the btc for taxs purposes [22:21]
tbage http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2400-W-Broadway-Columbia-MO-65203/58704834_zpid/ 7k in USD over listing [22:21]
Rawlxxx Awesome! [22:21]
mircea_popescu gah who just sent me an uninterpretable order! [22:21]
smickles tbage: gribble just hasn't updated yet [22:21]
tbage ah [22:21]
smickles mircea_popescu: not me ;) [22:21]
tbage i think it would be more interesting to bypass the taxes [22:21]
tbage since we're dealing with BTC [22:21]
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bitcoinsarefun ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7b24048fc930d007d8c7cf802c7b18659863a84a88f660115f10ebc2 [22:22]
gribble You are now authenticated for user bitcoinsarefun with key E72C7A7EE701B9F0 [22:22]
smickles tbage: well, we could, but it would make it more complicated [22:22]
mircea_popescu so is the house selling for btc tbage ? [22:22]
tbage smickles is [22:22]
mircea_popescu o wow srsly ? [22:22]
Staatsfeind mircea_popescu: Ohdasidd fjkewj dqkiqu djfejeka „fdaaotifnem apotirw tghifouzh jeng“. [22:22]
smickles mircea_popescu: yes [22:23]
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mircea_popescu whats that vrag, rot13 ? [22:23]
MBS anyone want to buy sonic generations for steam for 3 BTC? [22:23]
Staatsfeind You seemed to be annoyed by uninterpretable things. :þ [22:23]
mircea_popescu lmao [22:23]
tbage so smickles [22:23]
Staatsfeind It's just gibberish. ☺ [22:24]
tbage the FMV of bitcoin on my chosen market is a fraction of a cent [22:24]
mircea_popescu pretty cool smickles. [22:24]
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* mircea_popescu wonders if anyone translated his secret writing thus earning 100 btc prize ? [22:24]
tbage what secret writing [22:24]
mircea_popescu i posted it a few days ago [22:25]
smickles tbage: we would use mtgox, for simplicities sake [22:25]
Staatsfeind tbage: It's secret! [22:25]
tbage o [22:25]
smickles er, wrong word [22:25]
tbage plz 2 link [22:25]
mircea_popescu k 1 sec [22:25]
smickles but you get the point [22:25]
mircea_popescu gotta refind it [22:25]
Staatsfeind smickles: *simplicity's [22:25]
smickles thanks staa [22:25]
Staatsfeind Also, eww at using the possessive there. :/ [22:25]
smickles * Staatsfeind [22:25]
mircea_popescu tbage, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2009/mi-a-venit-o-idee-extraordinara/ [22:26]
smickles tbage: the tax value may be cleared up by this: [22:27]
smickles ;;view --raw [22:27]
gribble #7029 Thu Mar 1 16:33:08 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 house @ "118400/{mtgoxlast}" btc (about 1140 sq. ft. (not counting basement) 3 bedroom 1.5 bath. 2400 W Broadway, Columbia, MO) [22:27]
Staatsfeind .wa number of speakers romanian [22:27]
markac Romanian->total number of speakers;24 million people (0.36% of world population) (rank: 49th);Romania->19.74 million people (84%), Moldova->2.664 million people (11%), Ukraine->250000 people (1.1%), Israel->250000 people (1.1%), Serbia->200000 people (0.85%), Hungary->100000 people (0.43%), (1995 to 2002 estimates);~~ 0.95 × current population of Texas ( 25.1456 million people );~~ 1.1 × current population of Australia ( 21.512 mi [22:27]
mircea_popescu there's a good 100k in the us for one. [22:27]
tbage i can't read romanskish [22:28]
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mircea_popescu is bitcoin.org down ? [22:28]
Staatsfeind It's a weird Romance language so I'm thinking of picking it up. [22:28]
mircea_popescu tbage, you just need to decipher the text on the black pic. [22:28]
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tbage yes [22:28]
mircea_popescu its not weird at all. its the closest aproximation of latin still spoken [22:28]
Staatsfeind rofl [22:28]
tbage whats the target language of the text? [22:29]
tbage if you dont mind me asking [22:29]
mircea_popescu that'd be your job [22:29]
tbage im not sure what clues you give in your posting [22:29]
mircea_popescu mmm lessee [22:29]
mircea_popescu it explains how i woke up middream to jot down something and now i cant read wtf it was that i jotted down [22:29]
mircea_popescu but prolly was interesting. [22:29]
rg luke-jr [22:30]
mircea_popescu rather tongue in cheek. [22:30]
rg we want to convince our office to buy those butterfly labs things [22:30]
tbage o [22:30]
tbage so it's romanian then [22:30]
rg but we need to reprogram them to crack passwords [22:30]
rg whie theyre not mining [22:30]
rawrmage rg: haha [22:30]
rawrmage why not just buy a general-purpose fpga? [22:30]
rg cause its faster [22:30]
rg and cheaper [22:30]
mircea_popescu rg : possibly easiest way is to distribute them the pw cracking as mining shares ? [22:30]
rg well its only programmed to do sha [22:31]
mircea_popescu have a special pool thing [22:31]
mircea_popescu well then you're sol. [22:31]
rawrmage i bet it'd be really really good for cracking sha passwords [22:31]
rg we need to crack md5, salted md5, des [22:31]
ageis whos got 5830s dammit [22:31]
rg ageis: when i move you can buy my 5770 [22:31]
ageis okay [22:31]
rawrmage how long would it take to crack a say 8 character password at 100 ghash or so [22:31]
ageis first dibs [22:31]
rg rawrmage, it would depend on the cipher [22:32]
rawrmage sha512 [22:32]
rg not every hash will get the same speed [22:32]
rg p [22:32]
rawrmage eh, wait, bitcoin uses 256 or 512? [22:32]
sturles 256 [22:33]
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a5m0 256*256 [22:35]
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bitcoin anybody want my $25 MoneyPak? You only have to give me, say, 4.2 bitcoins. [22:36]
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bitcoin I'm matthew_ by the way [22:38]
bitcoinTrader ;;getrating wtbtc [22:41]
Cory Can you auth, bitcoin? [22:41]
bitcoin yup [22:43]
a5m0 buying: 1x 5970 or 6990, selling: 5 yubikeys, 1 dual 2.8ghz xeon server/computer, pm for details [22:43]
mcorlett ;;ident bitcoin [22:44]
gribble Nick 'bitcoin', with hostmask 'bitcoin!~bitcoin@99.0.61.35', is not identified. [22:44]
ulyedalplo choctolorc [22:45]
WTBbtc anyone will sell me 12 BTCs for 40€ ? [22:46]
mcorlett ;;ident WTBbtc [22:47]
gribble Nick 'WTBbtc', with hostmask 'WTBbtc!0228bced@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.40.188.237', is not identified. [22:47]
bitcoin ;;getrating Cory [22:47]
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bitcoin mcorlett: sorry just about to auth [22:47]
Rawlxxx sellin a 35$ amazon.com account ! [22:47]
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Framedragger I'm also looking to buy BTC for PPUSD, $100 worth of them. [22:48]
mcorlett ;;getrating Framedragger [22:49]
gribble User Framedragger, created on Thu Jun 23 11:15:47 2011. Cumulative rating 13, from 10 total ratings. Received ratings: 10 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 10 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Framedragger Currently authenticated from hostmask Framedragger!~k@server.mkj.lt [22:49]
WTBbtc 40€ of bitcoins plz [22:49]
Cory How are you paying, WTBbtc? [22:49]
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kornlosthead hello [22:49]
mcorlett Framedragger: I'll do €50, PPEUR. [22:50]
WTBbtc i'd like to pay with paypal, but i didn't understand if it's possible [22:50]
kornlosthead i'm tired of buying from bruce wagner [22:50]
kornlosthead at 9.99 percent [22:50]
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rawrmage lol [22:50]
ageis FPGAs: http://ageispolis.net/test/fpga.png [22:50]
kornlosthead looking for legitimate person who [22:50]
kornlosthead will let me go like [22:50]
kornlosthead buy a 100 dollar moneypak [22:50]
kornlosthead which i keep typing as monkeypak [22:50]
kornlosthead and give me coin [22:51]
kornlosthead i'd be willing to give moneypak info out first as long as the exchanger has some legitimiation [22:51]
kornlosthead legitimation* [22:51]
Staatsfeind *Legitimacy? [22:51]
kornlosthead same thing [22:52]
kornlosthead yes [22:52]
Staatsfeind lol [22:52]
EvanR legitinomicon [22:53]
Cusipzzz EvanR: tanking [22:55]
EvanR buying [22:55]
EvanR i got a new job, putting my entire paycheck into bitcoins instead of direct deposit [22:55]
mcorlett Instawallet shutting down?! [22:55]
Cusipzzz EvanR: working for the man?! say it aint so [22:56]
EvanR a man [22:56]
EvanR not the man [22:56]
Cory ;;rate matthew_ 1 He sold me a $25 MoneyPak for BTC. [22:56]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user matthew_ has been recorded. [22:56]
kornlosthead nobody? [22:58]
Cory mcorlett: Yankee of BitInstant has expressed interest in buying it. [22:58]
benjamindees EvanR, as in, you're getting paid in Bitcoins? [23:00]
EvanR would be nice [23:01]
AdamGiunta Is anyone interested in a 60 Day WoW timecode for 4btc? I send first! Need my first rating! :D [23:01]
EvanR but because its a constant amount of worthless paper, its a variable amount of bitcoins [23:01]
AdamGiunta Also have an unused Starcraft II key for 7BTC! Very cheap. Help me get my first rating! [23:04]
smickles ;;bids 4.66 [23:04]
gribble There are currently 1334.4105 bitcoins demanded at or over 4.66 USD, worth 6258.16347803 USD in total. [23:04]
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draco49 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimation [23:05]
mcorlett ;;rate Framedragger 2 Moderately risky PayPal transaction; will update if things go sour. [23:06]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user Framedragger has been recorded. [23:06]
Framedragger ;;rate mcorlett 2 He sold me bitcoins for 50PPEUR, flawless transaction! [23:07]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mcorlett has been recorded. [23:07]
EvanR gribble is echoing in -otc o_O [23:07]
Framedragger on that note, I'm never sure when to do ratings of 1 and when of 2.. [23:07]
Framedragger yes, I've seen the echo for some time now, hm [23:08]
mcorlett Framedragger: From your side, I'd rate myself with a 1. There is no risk for you, so you don't know much about my trustworthiness. [23:08]
Framedragger ;;rate mcorlett 2 He sold me bitcoins for 50PPEUR and sent first, flawless transaction! [23:08]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mcorlett has changed from 2 to 2. [23:08]
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mcorlett PayPal users: If I create a sufficient buffer of funds in my PayPal account, will that prevent my purchases from being reversed? [23:09]
draco49 No [23:10]
imsaguy no. [23:10]
rg newp [23:10]
rg the only way to prevent getting pwned on paypal [23:10]
rg is trade with good people [23:10]
Framedragger mcorlett: ah, true, that's a point. Well then if you don't mind :) I'll up it to 2 if we do another TX, which I hope we might. [23:10]
Framedragger ;;rate mcorlett 2 He sold me bitcoins for 50PPEUR and he sent first, flawless transaction! [23:10]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mcorlett has changed from 2 to 2. [23:10]
rg we should make a list of known good traders [23:10]
rg for noobs to look at [23:10]
kornlosthead so [23:10]
kornlosthead im still trying to buy btc [23:10]
Framedragger ;;rate mcorlett 1 He sold me bitcoins for 50PPEUR and he sent first, flawless transaction! [23:10]
Framedragger ok, [23:10]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mcorlett has changed from 2 to 1. [23:10]
rg no one is trading with you cause Korn sucks [23:11]
AdamGiunta Question: Does anyone on here play WoW? [23:11]
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smickles Framedragger: lol, you rerated mcorlett lower? [23:11]
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Framedragger smickles: on his advice :P [23:11]
mcorlett smickles: I practically asked him to. [23:11]
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smickles oh [23:11]
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Framedragger just tryin to avoid otc rating inflation.. [23:12]
smickles well, so long as it's a fairly accurate reflection of your trust for mcorlett .. [23:12]
Framedragger also, I'm still looking to buy some BTC for PPUSD/PPEUR / Swedbank, if anyone's up for it. [23:12]
Staatsfeind 16:11 <+ AdamGiunta> | Question: Does anyone on here play WoW? ← There are plenty of basement-dwelling neckbeards in here. [23:13]
rg Welcome to the Bitcoin Emporium! [23:13]
draco49 lmao @ Staatsfeind [23:13]
AdamGiunta Thats what I figured. Why wont anyone bite on the 4 BTC 60 day code? [23:13]
Framedragger (how about Dwarf fortress, then?) [23:13]
rg If you'd like to be ripped off immediately, please dial 0 for an operator [23:13]
mcorlett Staatsfeind: Oo, unicode arrow! [23:13]
AdamGiunta Thats $12 lower than retail just so I can get some rating. [23:14]
EvanR moms basement [23:14]
AdamGiunta I'm suprised there are no takers. [23:14]
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rg i dont think anyone here has time for WoW [23:14]
rg with all the IRC'ing we do [23:14]
rawrmage rg: lol [23:14]
draco49 AdamGiunta, I bet most of the basement-dwelling neckbeards here already have a lifetime subscription to WoW... [23:14]
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rawrmage that's ironic because i used to play but dropped it when I stopped playing because I spent more time on IRC [23:15]
rg i have a neckbeard [23:15]
rg fuck off [23:15]
draco49 it's cool... I do too :p [23:15]
smickles pics or stfu? [23:15]
draco49 on a neckbeard? [23:15]
smickles why not, i'm outta here anyway [23:16]
* smickles goes off to be productive [23:16]
ageis george carlin says any man who shaves his neck is not a man [23:16]
draco49 beat it, smickles [23:16]
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kornlosthead hm [23:16]
kornlosthead my connection dropped before [23:17]
kornlosthead cory you still around?> [23:17]
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Cory kornlosthead: Yup. I'll PM you again. [23:17]
marley22 lkjlk [23:17]
AdamGiunta Alright well if nobody on here plays WoW then I need to find some other digital goods to get rating. [23:17]
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netxshare anyone know how to take a txid and find out what bitcoin address it came from to send a refund? [23:20]
[eval] netxshare: check blockexplorer.com or blockchain.info [23:20]
draco49 yeah go to blockchain.info and put in the txid [23:20]
mircea_popescu it says in the blockexploere netxshare [23:20]
netxshare I am trying to do it from the raw block [23:20]
Staatsfeind netxshare: Do *not* assume that the sender has control over that address generally. [23:20]
draco49 it should return the send & receive addr [23:20]
netxshare http://blockexplorer.com/rawtx/d029c490359eb75cd76995b774fc6f103eafa8f1f57b79a403a1847c3f8e5fe5 [23:20]
netxshare like that [23:20]
mircea_popescu netxshare: Do *not* assume that the sender has control over that address generally. << wut ? [23:21]
[eval] that's true [23:21]
Staatsfeind mircea_popescu: Lots of people don't control their own wallets. [23:21]
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[eval] you could be sending it back to an ewallet of some sort [23:21]
Cusipzzz very true [23:21]
draco49 http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2647229/d029c490359eb75cd76995b774fc6f103eafa8f1f57b79a403a1847c3f8e5fe5 [23:21]
netxshare yes I know [23:21]
netxshare it's for something else [23:21]
mircea_popescu a good point that. [23:21]
mircea_popescu forgot abouyt the silly wallets. [23:22]
rg my room mates are finally enabling me tonight [23:22]
rg im making dinner [23:22]
draco49 It came from 2 wallets. [23:22]
mircea_popescu (and can't believe people still use tghose after mybitcoin) [23:22]
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Staatsfeind mircea_popescu: Well, people also send directly from exchanges and stuff, too. [23:22]
[\\\] anyone know why sendtoaddress is bullshitting me? http://i56.tinypic.com/209lhnb.png [23:22]
[eval] my gf and her sister in law cook for me :> i don't have to make dinner. [23:22]
[\\\] $nmc->sendtoaddress($sendaddr, $sendamt); [23:22]
[\\\] this is with 10BTC in my wallet... [23:22]
rawrmage rg: 'enabling you'? [23:23]
nathan7 du du du DU DU du [23:23]
mircea_popescu he's transvestiting [23:23]
rg yeah [23:23]
nathan7 hey rawrmage [23:23]
rg they bought me ingredients [23:23]
rawrmage hi, nathan7! [23:23]
Staatsfeind rawrmage: If you ignore him; he'll go away. [23:23]
rg i asked for 2lb raw potatoes [23:23]
rg im gonna make shepherds pie [23:23]
rg with real mashed potatos [23:23]
netxshare ah I see so any of the addresses in output script will be the owners address [23:23]
[eval] oh hell yeah, i love shepherd's pie :> [23:23]
netxshare unless of course it's from an ewallet [23:23]
netxshare +1 for rg [23:24]
Staatsfeind Oh fuck yeah, shepherd's pie. :D [23:24]
draco49 shepherds pie, yummm.... ground lamb and guiness :) [23:24]
rg nah [23:24]
netxshare yes [23:24]
rg no lamb [23:24]
rawrmage Staatsfeind: lol [23:24]
kornlosthead hm [23:24]
rg hamburger [23:24]
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netxshare that works too [23:24]
[eval] rg: don't forget the worcestershire sauce! [23:24]
rg nope [23:24]
rg dont use that either [23:24]
netxshare love shepherds pie [23:24]
netxshare =( [23:24]
netxshare what are you making [23:24]
[eval] O_O how do you flavor the meat then? [23:24]
rg its going to be beef + beef gravy, a layer of corn, and then a layer of home made mashed potatoes [23:24]
netxshare a mashed potato bowl? [23:24]
draco49 At least have the decency to simmer the hamburger in guiness... [23:24]
rg with some paprika and salt+pep [23:24]
kornlosthead no one can do me a 10% fee? [23:25]
Staatsfeind You fucking homo, Guinness is disgusting. [23:25]
phraust steak in a can [23:25]
netxshare cheddars has a great shepherds pie [23:25]
phraust :D [23:25]
EvanR lol [23:25]
rg Guinness is ok [23:25]
[eval] guinness is bread :> [23:25]
rg ive had worse beers [23:25]
rg thats for sure [23:25]
EvanR Staatsfeind: it really depends on how it comes, can, glass, tap etc [23:25]
[eval] rare olde times here in RVA makes amazing shepherd's pie [23:25]
draco49 Eat one, Staatsfeind ... [23:25]
Staatsfeind There are definitely worse. [23:25]
phraust fresh draught == super delicious. [23:25]
rg im conflicted between [23:26]
kornlosthead looking for 19.0 btc for 100 dollar moneypak [23:26]
Staatsfeind That doesn't mean it's worth using. [23:26]
rg gravy or cream of mushroom soup [23:26]
Staatsfeind rg: Both. [23:26]
rg thats a good idea [23:26]
draco49 This shepherds pie is going downhill real fast.... [23:26]
rg why? [23:26]
rg thats how you make it [23:26]
maclof Buying 10 BTC for 51 PPUSD, message me [23:26]
AdamGiunta Are moneypak's one of the better ways to do USD <=> BTC transactions? [23:26]
draco49 Cuz it's no longer shepherds pie. [23:26]
rg http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/rachael-ray/30-minute-shepherds-pie-recipe/index.html [23:26]
draco49 It sounds delicious... it's just not shepherds pie [23:26]
rg i will follow that receipe loosely [23:26]
Staatsfeind That is shepherd's pie. [23:27]
rawrmage lol [23:27]
kornlosthead oh most of you guys use paypal or something? [23:27]
kornlosthead i thought everyone hated paypal [23:27]
rg kornlosthead: we do [23:27]
draco49 shepherds pie should be made with ground mutton or lamb. [23:27]
rg but we're all friends [23:27]
rg and trusted [23:27]
phraust moneypak isn't half bad, when you can find willing parties ;) [23:27]
kornlosthead yeah [23:27]
draco49 But i'm a traditionalist when it comes to SP [23:28]
kornlosthead well how does a noob then [23:28]
kornlosthead get any coin [23:28]
AdamGiunta What would you say is the best USD <=> BTC method? Bank transfer? [23:28]
kornlosthead you have to start somewhere [23:28]
Staatsfeind The choice of meat isn't a defining characteristic. [23:28]
phraust I prefer to use moneypak. [23:28]
rg i would use lamb [23:28]
rg but my room mate is being a fag [23:28]
rg hes like ' i dont like lamb' [23:28]
rawrmage he won't let you slaughter him? [23:28]
rawrmage oh [23:28]
draco49 Staatsfeind, I would disagree. [23:28]
rg im like DUDE you do, we made lamb burgers the FIRST week you lived here [23:28]
Staatsfeind If you want to be a traditionalist, it's not ground meat at all. [23:28]
netxshare does paypal not get mad with to many moneypak's? [23:28]
rawrmage kill him and use his meat in the meal, rg [23:28]
maclof anybody selling bitcoins for paypal usd? wanting to buy only 10 [23:28]
rg netxshare: theyll make you give them info [23:28]
phraust it looks liek there is a $4000 limit. [23:28]
rg they did it to grubles, twice [23:28]
netxshare yeah I had to once [23:28]
phraust yeah, i had to put in my ssn today. [23:29]
netxshare but they get mad if you you just transfer it to the bank [23:29]
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AdamGiunta What are our options? Bank transfer, moneypak, paypal? Anything else? [23:29]
rg im still waiting for copumpkins bank transfer to clear [23:29]
AdamGiunta MTGox codes? [23:29]
rg AdamGiunta: theres also PopMoney [23:29]
rg its like writing a check [23:29]
rg except it takes 1 day [23:29]
Staatsfeind rg: Give him the Scott Tenorman treatment. [23:29]
rg (if your bank supports it)_ [23:29]
AdamGiunta Interesting I will have to read about that [23:29]
rg Staatsfeind: i dont have enough pubes to put in [23:29]
rg im groomed [23:29]
mcorlett How did we arrive at this? [23:30]
AdamGiunta Are MTGox codes common? [23:30]
draco49 The term "shepherd's pie" should be used when the meat is mutton or lamb, with the origin being that shepherds are concerned with sheep and not cattle. [23:30]
[eval] no, rg. use his parents, all chopped (or ground) up. :> [23:30]
* rawrmage adds that to his Rapeghost Factbook [23:30]
netxshare I use them a lot [23:30]
Staatsfeind rg: I meant about the meat selection. [23:30]
netxshare a lot more sites are accepting them aswell [23:30]
AdamGiunta They can be in USD and BTC correcT? [23:30]
Staatsfeind draco49: If you want to be traditionalist, WHY THE FUCK are you saying to use ground meat? [23:31]
mcorlett AdamGiunta: Don't quote me on this, but I believe they're available in every currency Mt.Gox operates in. [23:31]
Staatsfeind It should be a roast. [23:31]
EvanR rawrmage: lol [23:31]
rg Status: In Progress [23:31]
rg this bank transfer was supposed to take ONE business day [23:31]
AdamGiunta That seems like the best method to me. Who doesn't have MTGox? [23:31]
rg we're going on two [23:31]
draco49 Staatsfeind, oh the "ground" part wasn't what I was referring to. [23:31]
AdamGiunta I am still determined to sell some sort of digital good on here and not simply do currency trades. [23:32]
AdamGiunta What kind of games do you guys play? There must be something... [23:32]
EvanR ping pong [23:32]
draco49 Roasted and chopped scrap cuts... [23:32]
rg Recipients with automatic deposit enabled within Popmoney Preferences will see the payment in their Ally Bank account in 1 business day. [23:32]
Staatsfeind Also, nothing about the history of that dish indicates it's made with a shepherd's own flock. [23:32]
rg wtf.. [23:32]
rg i hope theres not something wrong with this [23:32]
draco49 Staatsfeind, look at the history of Shepherd's Pie. [23:32]
maclof Buying 10 BTC for 51 PPUSD, message me [23:32]
Staatsfeind It's been used to describe beef-based dishes for much longer. [23:33]
rawrmage AdamGiunta: we play 'manipulate the market' games [23:33]
rawrmage like depth chart pong [23:33]
rawrmage and such [23:33]
Staatsfeind Yes, your folk etymology is irrelevant. [23:33]
draco49 It was orginally called Cottage Pie... and now the two are separate dishes. [23:33]
AdamGiunta Come on you cant be serious. Haha [23:33]
EvanR lol folk etymology [23:33]
Staatsfeind No, it wasn't. [23:33]
Staatsfeind Cottage pie is a *type* of dish much broader. [23:33]
rawrmage AdamGiunta: not serious :P [23:33]
draco49 You can be argumentative all you want. [23:33]
EvanR the only true history is that which is issued to us from the central authority [23:33]
AdamGiunta Ok good! Haha. So if I had *any* kind of digital good. What do you think would sell fast? [23:34]
EvanR AdamGiunta: bitcoins [23:34]
AdamGiunta None currency digital good. [23:34]
mcorlett AdamGiunta: Liberty Reserve, maybe? [23:34]
AdamGiunta O.O [23:34]
AdamGiunta *non-currency [23:34]
EvanR according to pop culture bitcoins are not currency for some reason [23:35]
AdamGiunta No they are a money laundering tool.... [23:35]
Staatsfeind EvanR: Well, since the earliest attestations of the term refer to *beef*, his argument from folk etymology is bullshit from the beginning. [23:35]
mcorlett AdamGiunta: And kitchen knives are murder weapons! [23:35]
draco49 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060918121843AAHhJ0F [23:35]
EvanR i got your murder weapons right here [23:36]
AdamGiunta This is silly. I thought for sure I would be able to sell a 60 day code for $18. [23:36]
EvanR do you play wow? [23:36]
AdamGiunta Nobody even wants to buy it for an arbitrage opportunity? [23:36]
EvanR do you like wow? [23:37]
EvanR no? [23:37]
EvanR that should clue you in lol [23:37]
Staatsfeind draco49: I see this is religious for you. It's not for me. I'm not discussing this anymore and nor will you here. [23:37]
AdamGiunta No I just need rating. I thought you guys did. haha [23:37]
draco49 Staatsfeind, don't be bitter. [23:37]
rg ohh [23:37]
rg im gonna brown the burger in olive oil [23:37]
Staatsfeind I'm not bitter. [23:37]
rg and put some onions in it [23:37]
AdamGiunta BTC IRC channel screams WoW to me. Apparently I was wrong. lol [23:37]
EvanR wow sucks dude [23:38]
Cusipzzz AdamGiunta: amazon gift code [23:38]
Staatsfeind AdamGiunta: Probably everyone interested already has that taken care of. :/ [23:38]
AdamGiunta And they wouldn't even want to save $12? [23:38]
EvanR actually i might buy amazon gift codes [23:38]
AdamGiunta Thanks for the suggestion cusipzzz but thats a currency. lol [23:38]
Staatsfeind wut [23:39]
EvanR might as well say wow time is currency [23:39]
Cusipzzz wat [23:39]
AdamGiunta I already have that though. [23:39]
AdamGiunta Maybe I will just flush it down the tiolet. HAha [23:39]
EvanR probably [23:39]
EvanR best idea [23:39]
AdamGiunta O.O [23:39]
rawrmage lol [23:39]
rawrmage ebay? [23:40]
EvanR hes not trying to make money, hes trying to buy ratings [23:40]
AdamGiunta Alright I will be back in an hour or so and I will ask again. I will keep the dream alive. [23:40]
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kornlosthead ok [23:42]
kornlosthead so nobody will do a 10% fee moneypak for me? [23:42]
kornlosthead like i want to spend 100 dollar moneypak [23:42]
rg kornlosthead: you're buying BTC? [23:42]
kornlosthead on 19 btc [23:42]
kornlosthead or so [23:42]
kornlosthead yes [23:42]
rg do you have a photo of the receipt [23:42]
rg ? [23:42]
kornlosthead i was waiting for someone on here [23:43]
kornlosthead to be interested [23:43]
kornlosthead before i go buy one [23:43]
kornlosthead like 3 miles away [23:43]
rg ill buy it [23:43]
rg just make sure you get a photo of the reciept [23:43]
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kornlosthead want my email and AIM [23:43]
kornlosthead or should i just log back on here [23:43]
Coolty and blurr out the important parts [23:43]
kornlosthead after i get moneypak and receipt [23:43]
rg just come here [23:43]
kornlosthead k [23:43]
rg ill be around [23:43]
kornlosthead my aim is same SN anyway [23:43]
kornlosthead alright [23:43]
Staatsfeind Coolty: lol [23:43]
kornlosthead ill be back in like 15 with the moneypak [23:43]
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rg welp [23:45]
rg its official [23:45]
rg i beat the news agencies to a story [23:45]
EvanR what story [23:45]
rg my post on webhostingtalk predates ANY news stories about the Linode hack by 20 hours [23:45]
EvanR meh, old [23:46]
a5m0 anyone in DFW want to go see Drake tonight? [23:46]
Coolty ew [23:46]
rg a5m0: i think i speak for everyone when i say LOL [23:46]
Coolty ^ [23:46]
EvanR LOL [23:46]
a5m0 i know, real life isn't for everyone [23:46]
EvanR dfw? [23:46]
a5m0 dallas/fortworth [23:47]
rg Drake is teh crippled kid from Degrassi [23:47]
EvanR too far [23:47]
a5m0 pretty sure he's from houston? [23:47]
Coolty or canada [23:47]
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MBS ;;seen metagrok [23:48]
Staatsfeind It's 02:46:45 MTC right now (21:48:49 UTC). [23:48]
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bizong ;;guide [23:51]
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rg welllllllllll then the man with two brains says [23:57]
rg that its a science [23:57]
rg ive got one for my actions ones for my conscience [23:57]
EvanR are you rhyming science with conscience? [23:58]
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rg no? [23:58]
EvanR ok good [23:58]
rg i wasnt aware everything had to ryhme [23:58]
EvanR now you know [23:58]
a5m0 thanks bill [23:59]
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