Forum logs for 02 Jul 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [18:14]
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mircea_popescu a well that was pretty epic [18:15]
bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/AdamDraper/status/484350819526279168 [18:16]
ThickAsThieves do tell [18:16]
assbot Photo of /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash history happening. http://t.co/qDHNaHY4LC [18:16]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: voyage? [18:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i met this girl. [18:16]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete that instagram doesn't load anything for me. what is it ? [18:18]
bitcoinpete http://instagram.com/p/p8_Hd3yWwo/ [18:18]
assbot Instagram [18:18]
ThickAsThieves bitcoin history! [18:18]
ThickAsThieves amazing history! [18:18]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [18:18]
mircea_popescu 3 guys in a corner office, that one ? [18:19]
asciilifeform looks like some fellas in a garrett talking to soviet bureaucrat [18:19]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrjCNgXCQAEDAzJ.jpg < that loads. [18:19]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: it's tim's kid taking a picture of his dad and two younger … ya [18:19]
ThickAsThieves thats the auction weiner [18:19]
mircea_popescu a ok [18:19]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:19]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.92, Best ask: 654.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.07000, Last trade: 654.0, 24 hour volume: 7165.73170950, 24 hour low: 638.0, 24 hour high: 658.75, 24 hour vwap: 649.402772905 [18:19]
mircea_popescu all that collapse and shit. [18:19]
bitcoinpete almost $10 again [18:19]
ThickAsThieves Dow almost 17k [18:22]
ThickAsThieves SP almost 2k [18:22]
ThickAsThieves s'all good in the hood [18:22]
mircea_popescu lol [18:23]
bitcoinpete http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/02/betting-on-big-drop-shorts-borrow-all-the-gopro-stock-they-can/ [18:23]
assbot Betting On Big Drop, Shorts Borrow All the GoPro Stock They Can - MoneyBeat - WSJ [18:23]
bitcoinpete "the percentage of shares available to loan that are actually being borrowed–is near 100%," [18:23]
asciilifeform what is so nice about the camera? [18:24]
bitcoinpete mostly the accessories [18:24]
bitcoinpete mounting clips for everything and anything [18:24]
bitcoinpete add sponsorships, mix, ipo [18:25]
ThickAsThieves nothing, that's the short answer [18:25]
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ThickAsThieves whole thing could be upheaved by a well-placed kickstarter project [18:26]
mircea_popescu dem barriers to entry. [18:26]
benkay no one expects the kickstarter upheaval! [18:26]
mircea_popescu this is the lulzy thing about "headcount-based" ipos and perception of value : [18:26]
mircea_popescu it's basically dotcom bubble v2.0. nothing easier to fake than headcount. except perhaps clicks. [18:27]
mircea_popescu and when i say fake, i include things such as, every year it gets easier and easier to amass headcunt, provided you promise you'll never charge a cent. [18:27]
mircea_popescu which is exactly what tat's saying : whole thing can now be upheaved by a well placed kickstarter [18:27]
mircea_popescu that doesn't mean kickstarters are valuable. it just means shit like gopro and airbnb are valueLESS [18:28]
pankkake most companies I've been in have two kind of headcounts. the real one and the investors one - both being from real data [18:28]
mthreat gopro sells actual hardware [18:28]
mircea_popescu mthreat not really. they dropship some gear some azn companies designed, made and assembled. [18:29]
mircea_popescu much like apple. [18:29]
mthreat their marketing seems to be similar to red bull (extreme sports marketing) [18:29]
mircea_popescu ya. [18:29]
mthreat so red bull just sells sugar + caffeine + water [18:30]
mircea_popescu the reason that shit works for coca cola (and immitators, a la red bull) [18:30]
ThickAsThieves however i wouldnt touch GPRO with a 10ft pole, way too many people thinking the same thing at opposite poles [18:30]
mircea_popescu is that sugared water with some pee in it is really trivial to make, so the entire product is the package. [18:30]
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mircea_popescu this doth not work for anything that's an actual service. to be coca cola you have to be both valueless AND pointless. [18:30]
mircea_popescu !up Clue [18:30]
-assbot- You voiced Clue for 30 minutes. [18:30]
ThickAsThieves all it takes is GS to sum em up and issue a BUY rating at $100 [18:30]
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ThickAsThieves squeeze all them shorts and sell out at the same time [18:31]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you know this polarization problem is perhaps the largest pile of conclusive proof that the official indicators are all fake. [18:31]
mircea_popescu in general a working economy exists to close the zero-infinity price window [18:31]
mircea_popescu when that window widens, the economy necessarily is losing contanct. [18:31]
ThickAsThieves increasing qty of articles about low volume lately [18:32]
ThickAsThieves just traders trading traders [18:32]
ThickAsThieves %ticker [18:33]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 340 Ask: 347 Last Price: 340 24h-Vol: 771k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 287 [18:33]
ThickAsThieves nice [18:33]
ThickAsThieves %diff [18:34]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 534763.34 in 616 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 4.55 [18:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00081646 = 1.6329 BTC [-] [18:34]
mircea_popescu wow. atc stabilization ? [18:36]
mircea_popescu look at that ThickAsThieves your baby lives. [18:36]
ThickAsThieves WoL can't hurt [18:37]
punkman oh nice game #10 is finished [18:38]
punkman should have bought more death [18:38]
mircea_popescu buy all teh deth. [18:39]
bitcoinpete "The European Court of Human Rights on Tuesday upheld France's ban on wearing full-face veils in public, rejecting arguments that the ban undermines freedoms of religion and expression." [18:42]
mike_c stabilization is a bit strong. it's been running slow the last couple weeks, and is now running quite fast. [18:43]
mike_c pool hoppers might be back. [18:43]
mircea_popescu mike_c im just looking at the diff % [18:44]
mircea_popescu Est. % Change: 4.55 is what it is. it didn't have a period like this in 3 months [18:44]
mike_c yeah, it's close to 0 now because (2 weeks slow) + (1 day really fast) = little change [18:44]
mike_c i am just a lowly merchant wishing for something closer to actual stabilization. but that is unrealistic for a baby coin. [18:45]
mircea_popescu i thought you were my sock puppet. when did this merchant thing happen [18:46]
mike_c hehe. sock puppets can have day jobs [18:46]
mircea_popescu o no wait, that was pankkake. i got the fake identities mixed up [18:46]
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mike_c i had to check. of course, it exists. babycoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389832.0 [18:47]
assbot [IDEA] BabyCoin [18:47]
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mircea_popescu lol [18:48]
mircea_popescu IDEA [18:48]
mircea_popescu !up GinAddict1 [18:48]
-assbot- You voiced GinAddict1 for 30 minutes. [18:48]
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GinAddict1 thanks Mircea [18:48]
GinAddict1 (and everyone else) [18:49]
mircea_popescu now who miught you be ? [18:49]
GinAddict1 oh, I'm Lawrence from GreenAddress, temporarily using this user in vacation [18:49]
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mircea_popescu aha. welcome. [18:49]
GinAddict1 Hi, thank you! [18:49]
ThickAsThieves The safer Bitcoin wallet that puts you in control [18:50]
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mircea_popescu !up jonvaage [18:50]
-assbot- You voiced jonvaage for 30 minutes. [18:50]
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Naphex o/ [18:52]
GinAddict1 ThickAsThieves: yep - bad/good slogan for a multisig service you reckon? [18:52]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i don't recal, were we hating this thing [18:54]
mircea_popescu ? [18:54]
GinAddict1 there was a blog post by pete [18:54]
GinAddict1 a bit of hate maybe but we spoke a bit and it was a very reasonable conversation [18:54]
GinAddict1 I actually came here for feedback so it would be great if you had any criticism [18:55]
ThickAsThieves slogan is okay i suppose [18:55]
GinAddict1 I also wanted to tell Pete that someone is using his blogpost to spread FUD but i see he just got disconnected [18:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00081646 = 16.1659 BTC [-] [18:56]
GinAddict1 mircea_popescu: we def had a really bad start, initially there was some marketing/dev mismatch and in our home we even said "Hack proof" when i actually wanted to say "Improved security" [18:57]
GinAddict1 of course nothing is hack proof [18:57]
GinAddict1 maybe death :) [18:57]
mircea_popescu GinAddict1 so when you say lawrence from greenaddress what do you actualy mean ? you code ? you manage ? you pr ? what ? [18:57]
ThickAsThieves all, i bet [18:57]
GinAddict1 I'm the founder, I code, I manage, I PR but more than anything I'm a bitcoiner first [18:58]
kakobrekla i bet, all. [18:58]
ThickAsThieves !b 5 [18:58]
assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3BQ7Y3E.txt ) [18:58]
GinAddict1 but coding wise i'm the least contributor [18:58]
GinAddict1 mostly architecture and design [18:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.66972768 BTC to 11`168 shares, 14951 satoshi per share [19:00]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla you gotta bet faster [19:00]
mircea_popescu ty for gracious donation to ba [19:00]
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GinAddict1 what is ba if i may ask? bitcoin average? [19:01]
mircea_popescu ;;topic [19:01]
gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [19:01]
mircea_popescu ya kno ? [19:02]
GinAddict1 oh, sorry, dumb me [19:02]
mircea_popescu so then who miscomunicated with whom ? [19:02]
GinAddict1 you mean my earlier mention of someone using Pete's blog post? [19:04]
GinAddict1 http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29hu4u/greenaddress_hiding_bad_feedback_more_proof_to/ [19:04]
assbot GreenAddress hiding bad feedback? More proof to point towards it. : Bitcoin [19:04]
mircea_popescu specifically, " there was some marketing/dev mismatch" [19:04]
GinAddict1 i miscommunicated with my graphic designer and in a table on the home there was a column called Hack proof instead of "Improved security" [19:05]
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ThickAsThieves lol Hearn wins $100k bounty from reddit for software to replace BTCFundnation [19:05]
GinAddict1 english not being first language for neither of us [19:05]
ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29n8o0/100000_bounty_winner_announcement/ [19:05]
assbot $100,000 bounty winner announcement! : Bitcoin [19:05]
ThickAsThieves with software he was making already anyway [19:06]
mircea_popescu i c [19:06]
GinAddict1 ThickAsThieves: I saw that, is Mike foundation friendly or? has he agreed? I don't see comments of his in the reddit post [19:06]
ThickAsThieves Mike has agreed to release the platform as open source before the end of August. He will be awarded $40,000 on completion. After the platform is live, I will put an additional $50,000 towards the first core dev crowdfunding project that gets made on it. This should help them become independent the moment it gets released, and hopefully will start streamlining Bitcoin core development [19:06]
ThickAsThieves again. [19:06]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves so reddit pays to replace phlegm with cancer ? [19:06]
ThickAsThieves $10k goes to the runner up [19:07]
ThickAsThieves who suggested DAO system on Ethereum [19:07]
ThickAsThieves lol [19:07]
mircea_popescu this is so much lol. [19:08]
ThickAsThieves Does Draper's Purchase of BTC for Vaurum Add to the Total Venture Capital Balance? [19:08]
asciilifeform Hearn?! [19:08]
mircea_popescu GinAddict1 mike is the chief enemy plant in bitcoin. he's the guy that merged heartbleed in bitcoin for absolutely no legitimatereason, and he's the guy that forced a hard fork, idem. [19:08]
mircea_popescu he's basically mata hari. [19:09]
asciilifeform insult to hari, who was a pretty gurl and added valuez. [19:09]
GinAddict1 mircea_popescu: there's more coming: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4351 [19:09]
assbot Add a getutxos command to the p2p protocol by mikehearn Pull Request #4351 bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub [19:09]
GinAddict1 I don't think it is a good idea at all to have it [19:09]
GinAddict1 but according to others core devs it's been narrowed to the point that the obviously harmful stuff is gone [19:10]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform im sure there must be a fatass white boi market somewhere. [19:12]
ThickAsThieves at it least it aint obviously harmful! [19:12]
ThickAsThieves high-five! [19:12]
mircea_popescu don't knock it, whatever the pr0n, someone's rubbing to it. [19:12]
GinAddict1 ThickAsThieves: sigh right? [19:12]
mircea_popescu GinAddict1 wait, is this one of those "let nsa put some bugs in, then take out the visible ones and it's good to go" sorta deal ? [19:12]
mircea_popescu nothing signed by gmaxwell may ever be merged. into anything. period. [19:13]
GinAddict1 sorry i don't get the reference to gmaxwell and this one is .. about trusting untrusted nodes i guess [19:13]
mircea_popescu and in general, this bullshit where plants can coexist because us born engineers are cockless ended last year. [19:13]
mircea_popescu i keep lists, i kill people. [19:13]
mircea_popescu ask andreas. [19:13]
ThickAsThieves oh wait, you cant! [19:14]
ThickAsThieves er [19:14]
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GinAddict1 right [19:14]
GinAddict1 you can't [19:14]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves wasn't that supposed t obe "you cunt" ? [19:14]
ThickAsThieves hehe [19:14]
GinAddict1 he cunt? [19:14]
GinAddict1 right, can I not be put on a kill list please [19:15]
ThickAsThieves i wanna know the legal deets about why i dont know this auction price yet [19:15]
GinAddict1 ThickAsThieves: apparently we may find out with a FOIA request in a bit [19:15]
GinAddict1 like a few months [19:15]
ThickAsThieves obnoxious [19:15]
ThickAsThieves i emailed them, cant they just reply [19:16]
ThickAsThieves yeesh [19:16]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves they're protecting themselves as best they can. [19:16]
ThickAsThieves hmm i guess that makes sense [19:16]
ThickAsThieves use formal channels [19:16]
ThickAsThieves but meh [19:16]
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thestringpuller !up GinAddict1 [19:19]
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GinAddict1 thanks thestringpuller [19:19]
thestringpuller yay it's like friday I get to read more lulz [19:20]
thestringpuller via reddits [19:20]
thestringpuller ~_~ oh reddit, i love how stupid you are [19:23]
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GinAddict1 do you prefer reddit or bitcointalk? [19:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11685 @ 0.0008162 = 9.5373 BTC [-] {3} [19:25]
GinAddict1 also, does anyone know fdroid and do you like it as an alternative to the play store? [19:25]
danielpbarron 12:25:16 <+GinAddict1> do you prefer reddit or bitcointalk? << i prefer irc and twitter [19:25]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/snsa-june-2014-statement/ [19:26]
assbot S.NSA, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [19:26]
mircea_popescu !s fdroid [19:27]
assbot 0 results for 'fdroid' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=fdroid [19:27]
mircea_popescu believe it or not you're the first to mention it. [19:27]
danielpbarron i met kyuupichan at porcfest last week [19:27]
mircea_popescu !up kyuupichan [19:27]
-assbot- You voiced kyuupichan without time-limit. [19:27]
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danielpbarron we were the only two people there that were already in -assets as far as i could tell [19:27]
danielpbarron ;;rated kyuupichan [19:27]
gribble You rated user kyuupichan on Mon Jun 23 16:29:30 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: met at porcfest https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/481122040217616384. [19:27]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot kyuupichan [19:28]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask kyuupichan!~Neil@z182045.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp. Trust relationship from user assbot to user kyuupichan: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=kyuupichan | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kyuupichan | Rated since: Mon Jun 23 16:20:19 2014 [19:28]
GinAddict1 mircea_popescu: https://f-droid.org/ [19:28]
assbot F-Droid | Free and Open Source Android App Repository [19:28]
mircea_popescu a ok. i just met him cause he commented on my word cup bitch. [19:28]
GinAddict1 we're submitting our app to that [19:28]
danielpbarron he told me he couldn't get voiced and i literally lol'd [19:28]
danielpbarron I told him i'd give him a +2 for meeting face-to-face [19:28]
mircea_popescu did you lord it over him at least ? [19:28]
danielpbarron heh [19:29]
danielpbarron we talked about mpex quite a bit [19:29]
danielpbarron I don't know if that conversation was meant to be private but i'd like him to bring it up in here [19:30]
mircea_popescu all about how it sux ? [19:30]
* danielpbarron will neither confirm nor deny that guess [19:30]
mircea_popescu you're ready for a job at usms [19:30]
mircea_popescu you got teh basics [19:31]
danielpbarron and I met btc_trader from -otc [19:31]
danielpbarron bought some of my fiat on my way out [19:31]
danielpbarron and that's the end of the list of gribble users at porcfest lol [19:31]
danielpbarron oh and I accidentally scammed someone [19:32]
danielpbarron he sold me a paper wallet that he had already imported into his phone [19:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00081605 = 2.1625 BTC [-] [19:32]
danielpbarron and i got ahold of some of his change [19:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/snsa-june-2014-statement/#comment-102065 [19:33]
assbot S.NSA, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [19:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00081563 = 10.6848 BTC [-] [19:34]
danielpbarron i attended the gpg key signing party; half the users that showed up were running windows [19:38]
danielpbarron didn't end up acutally signing any keys [19:38]
danielpbarron they spent most of the time settng up some portable key server [19:38]
mircea_popescu jesus god. [19:38]
mircea_popescu where was this ? [19:38]
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mircea_popescu i won't even sign keys hosted on windows, wtf. [19:38]
danielpbarron all the while I was trying to convince them to just use my flash drive or better yet, get in the WoT with gribble [19:39]
mircea_popescu !up sHINOBI_CZ [19:39]
-assbot- You voiced sHINOBI_CZ for 30 minutes. [19:39]
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danielpbarron it was at the Porcupine Freedom Festival in Lancaster, New Hampshire, USA [19:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what's next? we sell folks beta parachutes? [19:39]
mircea_popescu tell the guy, not me. [19:39]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: gpg key signing party; half the users that showed up were running windows << lol!! [19:40]
danielpbarron i found a few individuals there who might do the right thing and get in the WoT [19:40]
danielpbarron the guy i accidentally ripped off is in the WoT now, user named GunPlay [19:41]
GinAddict1 does anyone here use specialized hardware for gpg or just your favourite flavor of *nix ? [19:41]
danielpbarron i use old hardware running openbsd [19:41]
GinAddict1 old on purpose or by chance? i.e. worried about some RNG in recent chips?= [19:42]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/snsa-june-2014-statement/ [19:42]
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danielpbarron GinAddict1, a little of both; it's what I had left over from back when I used to be into computers, and I don't trust new hardware / don't know what's good now [19:42]
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mircea_popescu GinAddict1 supposedly special hardware is being baked [19:43]
danielpbarron I like that all my hardware was built before Bitcoin existed [19:43]
mircea_popescu it'll be here two weeks ** two weeks. [19:43]
danielpbarron but i guess it all rests on entropy generation and that's been a target for longer than Bitcoin has existed [19:44]
* asciilifeform grunts, adjusts track width for the 601th time. [19:44]
* asciilifeform points out that entropy is a far more dire concern for signing than key generation, interestingly [19:45]
danielpbarron oh! and one of the webdevs from the Bitcoin magazine offered to publish an article if i were to write one for them [19:45]
mircea_popescu yeah best way to lose a key is through signing [19:45]
GinAddict1 asciilifeform: for k? what if deterministic [19:45]
asciilifeform if deterministic, yer phucked [19:45]
GinAddict1 asciilifeform: nope, still unique each time: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pornin-deterministic-dsa-00 [19:46]
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asciilifeform GinAddict1: ah you were thinking of ecdsa/btc [19:46]
GinAddict1 yes sorry [19:46]
* asciilifeform doesn't make btc hardware, contrary to popular belief in 'fan mail' [19:47]
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ThickAsThieves The growth in customers accounts, for both Coinbase and competitor Blockchain, continues to grow at a pretty torrid rate. Mr. Armstrong said the company is seeing growth in its user base of about 3-4% a week, and has jumped from 100,000 accounts a year ago to about 1.4 million now. [19:51]
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ThickAsThieves so many clicks! [19:51]
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ThickAsThieves i'm not crazy http://seekingalpha.com/article/2296575-caveat-emptor-on-goldman-sachs-call-on-netflix [19:54]
assbot Caveat Emptor On Goldman Sach's Call On Netflix - Netflix, Inc. (NASDAQ:NFLX) | Seeking Alpha [19:54]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves didn't think you were. [19:55]
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ThickAsThieves just my first time getting done raw by GS [19:56]
ThickAsThieves i decided to just short more [19:56]
mircea_popescu ahaha [19:56]
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mircea_popescu what are you, dumb or something ? a fake market in which some banks play with infinite money, waht are you gonna do ? [19:57]
mircea_popescu go play the slots. [19:57]
pankkake bagshorting? [19:57]
pankkake I don't understand why anyone would listen to trading advice anyway [19:58]
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pankkake at least, free, public trading advice [19:58]
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ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> what are you, dumb or something ? probly, but i dont feel the sting just yet [19:59]
mircea_popescu pankkake now turn that around. do you understand why anyone'd listen to relationship advice ? [19:59]
mircea_popescu how about sex advice. [19:59]
ThickAsThieves and it is nice seeing other firms calling GS scammers the day after [19:59]
ThickAsThieves of course maybe thats how they want me to think [20:00]
ThickAsThieves dun dun dun [20:00]
mircea_popescu it makes zero sense, but women like to belong, and this is driven into them deeper than reason. so... they listen. [20:00]
pankkake there is every reason to withold good trading advice and publish bad trading advice [20:00]
asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VGEpEsvJ [20:00]
pankkake not so for the others [20:00]
mircea_popescu you'll have to explain this to me. [20:01]
ThickAsThieves not entirely true p [20:01]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no but he knows you know ? 's not thought it through for two minutes, and yet :D [20:01]
pankkake if I tell women they should swallow, everyone benefits. if I tell they should buy the thing I plan to buy before them, I lose [20:01]
mircea_popescu pankkake uh. [20:01]
mircea_popescu you know what an ideology is, right ? [20:01]
mircea_popescu if you're supposed to be rich and the plebs poor, telling them to buy etc also everyone benefits. [20:02]
mircea_popescu "you all get what you all should get" [20:02]
ThickAsThieves but i get most! [20:02]
mircea_popescu most depends on a measuring stick dunnit. [20:02]
ThickAsThieves yep, like GS unloading all their NFLX this week [20:03]
ThickAsThieves is that kinda thing regulated? [20:03]
ThickAsThieves like issuing BUY status and then selling [20:03]
mircea_popescu it's regulated, yes. you can';t do it. [20:03]
mircea_popescu the govt's own banks are desperate for cash tho. [20:03]
mircea_popescu argentina;s in a better shape these days. [20:03]
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pankkake https://www.contrepoints.org/2014/06/29/170453-bce-la-subvention-dont-personne-ne-parle found this very interesting, sorry for the French. it explains how the ECB lends money so they can go the "private sector" but does not check/punish if it does not happen [20:05]
assbot BCE : la subvention dont personne ne parle | Contrepoints [20:05]
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pankkake effectively subsidizing out banks [20:05]
mircea_popescu there's no alternative. [20:05]
thestringpuller ;;ls [20:07]
gribble What do you think I am, a shell? [20:07]
thestringpuller ;;bc,stats [20:07]
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thestringpuller lol lag? [20:07]
thestringpuller !diff [20:07]
gribble Current Blocks: 308906 | Current Difficulty: 16818461371.161 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1557 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 8 hours, 45 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16106703389.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.232 [20:08]
asciilifeform ;;goxlag [20:08]
gribble Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command. [20:08]
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pankkake ;;canstringlag [20:10]
gribble Error: "canstringlag" is not a valid command. [20:10]
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mike_c <+ThickAsThieves> yep, like GS unloading all their NFLX this week << no no, there's an invisible wall between the trading desk and the rating guys. they have NO IDEA what each other are doing. really, they promise! [20:12]
asciilifeform canstringlag << about (d / 6000) sec, d in metres, length of string, assuming steel cable ? [20:12]
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bitstein Some ironic entertainment from Andreas Antonopolous: http://i.imgur.com/n6wGydz.png [20:17]
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asciilifeform http://imgur.com/Ud3AF7d [20:23]
assbot double-conversion ups is neat - Imgur [20:23]
thestringpuller get da cryptocrypto coin [20:24]
FabianB $traded [20:25]
empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR [20:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0385 = 0.9625 BTC [+] [20:26]
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pankkake asciilifeform: does it tell you how efficient it is? [20:29]
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pankkake I have UPSes but only the passive ones [20:29]
asciilifeform pankkake: sorta. if one knows arithmetic. [20:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.03898887 = 1.1697 BTC [+] {2} [20:30]
asciilifeform pankkake: this is one of those monsters where the inverter runs constantly. so, around 80% efficient. [20:31]
pankkake ouch, right. not sure I want to pay 20% extra [20:31]
asciilifeform pankkake: i moved to a street where the entire place shares a transformer. so, abysmal mains quality. [20:31]
pankkake I used to live in a place that fried my psus every few months [20:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 34 @ 0.0499985 = 1.6999 BTC [+] [20:32]
asciilifeform pankkake: this is the pill for it. the only voltages that ever come out of a double-conversion ups is zero (dead battery) or the specified (120 here) ac, sinusoidal to 1% [20:33]
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pankkake well, the cheap ups I got at that time was enough, though it eventually died :) [20:34]
asciilifeform pankkake: the consumer boxes are typically 'switchover' - you're connected directly to the mains, except when the reading drops below mark and the inverter kicks in. [20:34]
pankkake yes, that's what the two I have seem to do. they go to battery sometimes even when there's no visible power cut [20:35]
pankkake so, I suppose it helps my hardware live a longer, happier life [20:36]
asciilifeform pankkake: the nice kind (double conv.) runs rectifier and inverter at all times, with the battery sitting in the middle [20:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.03949109 = 1.7771 BTC [+] {3} [20:36]
pankkake yes, I know, I just wondered how "worth it" it was [20:37]
asciilifeform depends where you live [20:37]
benkay 2 weeks lol [20:37]
asciilifeform and whether you really need your computer to run [20:37]
pankkake I'd rather invest in something with a big battery; I want the thing to stay up if I'm not there [20:38]
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asciilifeform pankkake: this particular unit has a plug on the back for arbitrary number of cells [20:38]
pankkake oh, now that's great [20:38]
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asciilifeform pankkake: you won't find this on a 'consumer' ups because their inverters aren't rated for 24/7 run [20:40]
asciilifeform (cooling issues) [20:40]
pankkake does it make noise? [20:40]
asciilifeform by default, yes [20:40]
asciilifeform and sure, there's a fan [20:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.059 = 0.531 BTC [+] {4} [20:41]
asciilifeform standard 80mm pc fan [20:42]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-lovely-bones/ [20:42]
pankkake 80mm's okay… I hate the smaller ones [20:43]
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terp whens the next trip to the moon? [20:51]
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terp i needa buy my tickets [20:51]
benkay $conference [20:51]
empyex benkay: Next conference starts in 9 months and 15 days. Estimated cost today: 2.04106878 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ ) [20:51]
assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.00081605 = 3.1353 BTC [+] [20:52]
terp what are these crazy californians doing legalizing bitcoin and marijuana? [20:53]
benkay desperate bid for relevance? [20:53]
terp its all ready the hippy mecca [20:54]
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mircea_popescu http://news.artnet.com/market/sothebys-london-hits-high-notes-with-lb93-million-sale-49285 << romanian painter guy from cluj sold [21:00]
assbot Sotheby's London Hits High Notes with 93 Million Sale - artnet News [21:00]
mircea_popescu for 1.5mn pounds [21:00]
asciilifeform canvas, the oldest of the pump-altcoins. [21:01]
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mircea_popescu art, right ? [21:02]
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mircea_popescu it's going to make a bundle for well positioned handlers tho. all this free floating money... [21:03]
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mircea_popescu http://girls.twistys.com/preview/totm/07-2014/p01/p/14.jpg < jesus check out that trainwreck of a boobjob [21:08]
asciilifeform what'd they stuff in them, Büchner funnels ? [21:08]
mircea_popescu silicone it seems [21:10]
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kakobrekla you havent seen those ghetto ops [21:12]
mircea_popescu Do u have any personal imformation of BVPS owner?They are fraud.They started buy back at a very low price 2 monthes ago,and it's non negotiation.I can get less than 3 btc.I accept that.And they say they will pay before june 30th. But I havent got any payment till today. [21:13]
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mircea_popescu Namworld you still involved with that ? [21:13]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/smg-june-2014-statement/ [21:14]
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kakobrekla http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a0gwu58ss-k/U44w6K32cMI/AAAAAAAAFD8/tMULGz5LfHE/s1600/Butt+Implant+Gone+Wrong+(2).jpg [21:14]
kakobrekla not a tit but nevertheless [21:14]
mircea_popescu ouch [21:15]
mircea_popescu so talking of ways one doesn't exactly expect to die : i have a gas boiler here. gas isn't really that commonly used in ba, and i guess they don't really get it. i notice that sometimes when i turn hot water on it sputters. super is like "well ya gotta let steam get out now an' again". [21:16]
mircea_popescu im like... nigga WHAT [21:16]
mircea_popescu direct circuit boiler. let's hope it doesn't acumulate too much steam o.O [21:16]
benkay pray for a bleeder valve? [21:16]
mircea_popescu i looked, it has one. [21:17]
mircea_popescu (it was suspended, sorta pointing towards sink, originally. send the bish to wash dish, get scalded bish randomly) [21:17]
benkay no dishwasher? [21:18]
mircea_popescu organic. [21:18]
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benkay ? [21:18]
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mircea_popescu organic dishwasher. [21:19]
benkay human dishwasher [21:19]
benkay on an entirely different topic, mircea_popescu would you explain the tangibles line in the S.MG report? [21:20]
mircea_popescu not that i like the electric stuff anyway [21:20]
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mircea_popescu benkay yeah, it had a bunch of servers paid upfront. [21:20]
mircea_popescu davout argued it to death when it was first introduced (about 1 year ago, s.mg was iirc the first to an0 report, and i wanted an example) [21:21]
benkay yeah, the argument was about buying vs leasing. [21:22]
mircea_popescu yeah, that. [21:22]
benkay it did seem a pretty tortured way to shoehorn an asset bearing company into an0 reporting. [21:22]
mircea_popescu what do you want from me ;/ [21:23]
asciilifeform 'human dishwasher' << one item i keep expecting to see from the chicoms. looks precisely like the mechanical kind, but has a nice little fellow living inside (first eats scraps, then washes, then returns to his compartment. convenient sewer hookup for both!) [21:23]
benkay not that i know *anything( [21:23]
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benkay what was the rationale, mircea_popescu - that since it was a purchase with a 1-year buyback agreement you could book it as opex instead of capex? [21:24]
benkay and do forgive any misunderstandings of terminology. [21:24]
mircea_popescu benkay that since eulora could sell it off if it decided not to want it it's worth something. [21:25]
mircea_popescu meets the definition of tangible. [21:25]
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mircea_popescu so everything here takes the same brass skeleton keys pretty much. i have a 2`800 grams pile of different keys ;/ [21:25]
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benkay wait i thought an0 was for companies with no assets period? [21:26]
benkay nonzero asset corporation jesus fuck i'm retarded [21:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: when they last changed a lock? 1790? [21:26]
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mircea_popescu i have no idea [21:27]
mircea_popescu benkay don't get excited lol [21:27]
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davout ohai [21:44]
assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021604 / 0.00023849 (22205 shares, 4.80 BTC) [21:45]
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mircea_popescu ello! [21:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14141 @ 0.00081623 = 11.5423 BTC [+] {2} [21:51]
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jurov hi mircea [21:55]
jurov and davout.. oh i was asking you earlier about paymium: [21:56]
jurov i'm trying to figure out something around here, would need to set up slovak translation and support, is that intersting for you? [21:56]
davout i beg your pardon [21:56]
davout does not compute [21:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03948 = 0.7896 BTC [-] [22:00]
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BingoBoingo "Well you're totally not paying your rent with my one free Bitcoin, you know?" https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-181800.html << How times have changed [22:07]
assbot Bitcoin Giveaway [Archive] - Stripper Web Exotic Dancer Community [22:07]
mircea_popescu suych an epic thread [22:10]
mircea_popescu http://online.wsj.com/articles/russia-softens-stance-on-bitcoin-1404305139 [22:11]
assbot Russia Softens Stance on Bitcoin - WSJ [22:11]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/femen-12.jpg << any idea who this one is btw ? [22:12]
jurov davout: to get merchants around here into paymium [22:12]
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penguirker New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/07/02/F.MPIF-Jun-2014-marketmaker-statement [22:14]
jurov nothing to see here, move along [22:16]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mps-guide-to-boat-travel-from-upon-the-very-boat-in-question/ [22:21]
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davout jurov: so you want to promote paymium in slovakia? [22:22]
jurov yes. if stars align right [22:23]
jurov i mean, if someone non-derpy will be around here to help me [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00081475 = 10.4288 BTC [-] [22:30]
benkay http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28130581 [22:30]
assbot BBC News - Why has Google cast me into oblivion? [22:30]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: so is this a thing, you reply negatively to a tweet, then poster deleted op and retweets anew, disconnecting your comment from their feed << that sounds like exactly the sort of thing you'd see on twitter. [22:38]
mircea_popescu benkay that shit should be lulzy, i got tons of upset romanian scammzors/spammers/whatnot documented on trilema [22:41]
mircea_popescu for a long time they've been bitching [22:41]
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BingoBoingo %d [22:50]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 559333.38 in 518 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 9.35 [22:50]
BingoBoingo OMG ATC diff going to the Moon!!! [22:50]
benkay http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/07/01/enter-twitters-new-venture-capital-arm/?mod=ST1 // "strategic investments group" [22:52]
assbot Enter Twitter’s New Venture Capital Arm? - Digits - WSJ [22:52]
benkay pull more money out of the markets and dump it into your friends' idiotic startup scams. [22:52]
benkay please. [22:52]
mircea_popescu o check it out, gold tattoo is now a thing [22:53]
mircea_popescu http://weenii.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/d95d9816c13a3769ee0887d9f19a6a50.jpg [22:53]
mike_c %p [22:53]
atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.32 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 11007.33 GH/s [22:53]
mircea_popescu black chicks can get done now too! [22:53]
mircea_popescu benkay i don't get it, twitter is not making money. what vc arm ?! [22:54]
benkay it's not vc it's a fucking roulette wheel [22:56]
mircea_popescu mp's feminism today : chick bitching about how society should change because she has no money and a trampstamp http://thisnorwegienne.com/trampstampingness-tramp-stamp [22:56]
mircea_popescu "Writer, Actress, Humanitarian, Philanderer, Bravado, and Playboy" mind. [22:57]
mircea_popescu you can be a "bravado" now, in grammarlessland. [22:57]
benkay No one calls a male past the age of puberty “a good boy.” // lies - i called a guy a "nice kid" just two days ago. [22:58]
mircea_popescu things that are inconvenient don't exist. [22:58]
benkay and i'm clearly alluding to his business and life inexperience. [22:59]
benkay waittaminute what's wrong with sluts? [23:00]
mircea_popescu dun ask me, bitch got issues. [23:00]
benkay does this person think that sluts are bad? [23:00]
mircea_popescu Some of us are trying to use ‘grow some ovaries’ as a female-friendly equivalent to ‘grow some balls,’ [23:00]
mircea_popescu ahahahah [23:00]
mircea_popescu no, she just thinks ovaries. o gawd. [23:01]
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benkay ovaries are not where the thinking happens [23:01]
diatonic neither are balls [23:01]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/femen-12.jpg << 'praise be to those who vanquished the dragon' << wtf [23:01]
mircea_popescu maybe she just meant "swallowed the snake" [23:02]
mircea_popescu and got snarled in translation. [23:02]
mircea_popescu diametric now that depends. [23:02]
mircea_popescu "For the record, I don’t think that a female who has frivolous and frequent sex with different men has any cause for shame, at least not if she’s doing it because she enjoys it and because it’s making her a happier and better citizen of the world, and if she is doing it for other less helpful reasons, then those reasons are what she should be dealing with, not the “symptoms.” Sadly, few people actually view f [23:03]
mircea_popescu emale sexuality in this way; even women and men who advocate liberated female sexuality, are sometimes guilty of using it against other women because the insult is so readily available and so ridiculously ingrained in us." [23:03]
mircea_popescu way to go on hitching the derpy equalitarian aggenda on sluttery. [23:04]
mircea_popescu we support women being sluts FOR BEING SLUTS, not for being something else that isn't being sluts. good god. [23:04]
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mthreat http://www.proofofposition.com/ [23:04]
assbot Proof of Position [23:04]
mircea_popescu liberated female sexuality specifically does not mean female sexuality coralled by feminist special interest. a slave's a paragon of liberated female sexuality, not some derpy "playboy" with bills due. [23:05]
asciilifeform mthreat: proof of gps spoofer [23:05]
mthreat .com [23:06]
mircea_popescu mthreat we need o get the ba registrar of deeds moving already [23:06]
asciilifeform mthreat: you don't even need a genuine physical one, just whatever diddles the appropriate field in the pnohe [23:06]
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asciilifeform (a pnohe is not necessarily a phone. could be any gizmo with the customary 'amazing! smart!' feature set.) [23:07]
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assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [23:07]
asciilifeform as exemplified by the iconic russian iPnohe. [23:07]
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benkay had to explain to someone that their 'coupled' gps-imu thinger on a phone was not coupled in the strict sense of the thing. [23:07]
mthreat mircea_popescu: ok.. do you know the guy who wrote proofofexistence.com is from bsas? [23:07]
mthreat it seems similar [23:07]
mircea_popescu i did not know that. [23:08]
benkay did so by example: "now on this other actually tightly-coupled gps imu an acquaintance built, he actually used the IMU to maintain a lock on the GPS sats while under...10G acceleration". [23:08]
mircea_popescu can you drop him a line so he shows up here ? [23:08]
benkay eyes bugged, minds boggled. [23:08]
mthreat yep [23:09]
mircea_popescu now that'd be cool. [23:09]
asciilifeform application: avio bomb? [23:09]
asciilifeform (rocket-propelled, otherwise you only gotta worry about 1G) [23:09]
mircea_popescu he didles rockets in hs spare time iirc. [23:10]
asciilifeform can't think of anything save for pyrotechics where one gets 10G. [23:11]
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asciilifeform (possibly in a railtron) [23:11]
mthreat f1 cars get 5G [23:12]
mircea_popescu good sex is about 12 G [23:12]
asciilifeform i suppose they get 10 - if hit a wall! [23:12]
mthreat ouch [23:12]
asciilifeform no one said 'forward' [23:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah they did stop being difficult :D [23:12]
mthreat last F1 accident I remember, tehy said the sensor said 26G [23:12]
mthreat and the driver was ok, maybe some bruising [23:13]
asciilifeform sensor got 26G - driver - no. [23:14]
ThickAsThieves http://new.livestream.com/draperuniversity/bitcoin-auction in 45m [23:14]
assbot Tim Draper Bitcoin Press Conference on Livestream [23:14]
mthreat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGJrsmPyfwA [23:14]
assbot F1 2008 Spain - Big crash for Heikki Kovalainen - On board - YouTube [23:14]
ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/circle-ceo-jeremy-allaire-issues-challenge-bitcoins-core-developers/ [23:15]
assbot Jeremy Allaire: Bitcoin Developers Need to 'Step Up' [23:15]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [23:16]
mthreat asciilifeform: sounds right - racing seatbelts are designed to "rip" a bit on impact to absorb some of the force [23:17]
asciilifeform mthreat: likewise the front of the car compacting. [23:17]
mircea_popescu is that sensor right under the hood above the radiator ? [23:18]
mthreat i don't know... probably close to the driver [23:18]
mthreat since that is what they want to measure [23:18]
asciilifeform ideally it would be up his arse [23:18]
mthreat haha [23:18]
mircea_popescu lol [23:18]
mthreat actually - [23:18]
mircea_popescu ben-wa balls gforce sensor ? [23:18]
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-assbot- You voiced scottj_ for 30 minutes. [23:19]
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mthreat mark webber had a thing about how he swallowed a pill that monitored his body temps, etc, during the race [23:19]
* asciilifeform distinctly recalls soviet flyers being instrumented in this fashion, at least early on [23:19]
mthreat then shat it out [23:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33772 @ 0.00081375 = 27.482 BTC [-] {4} [23:19]
asciilifeform 'electronics' by forrest l mims contains a recipe for just such a pill. first baked in the early '50s. [23:19]
benkay an acquaintance crashed a Ford "Mustang" into a tree one time. the crumple zones are so well-distributed around the car that the cupholder crushed his unopened cola can, dousing everyone in the car in a fine mist of sugar water. [23:19]
mthreat it's amazing the fuel cells don't rupture in F1 cars [23:20]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [23:20]
mircea_popescu notrly, the mesh composites they have... [23:21]
asciilifeform incidentally - it is, in principle, possible to build a car which could survive a crash intact. not by rigid construction (driver would get blended anyway) but via: momentum transfer. eject something out the back... a la 'recoil-less rifle.' work it out. [23:21]
asciilifeform consider the children's toy 'newton's cradle.' [23:21]
benkay application: avio bomb? // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4rnlyAnIFw [23:21]
assbot On Board LV2.3 with Roll Stabilization - YouTube [23:21]
mthreat interesting [23:22]
benkay he didles rockets in hs spare time iirc. // once upon a time. [23:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes but your cannon car would be a major danger for the one bhind it [23:22]
benkay p. capital intensive. [23:22]
asciilifeform why the rotating vanes? [23:22]
benkay they're vastly larger than the canards. [23:23]
benkay vortex shedding was imparting a torque on the airframe, inverting control and confusing controller. [23:23]
mircea_popescu "Following the overtaking of Lee’s email, the attackers processed a password challenge, which then provided them with a list of all of the passwords that had been previously listed within the browser. They then retrieved Bitcoins Reserve’s domain register, and then proceeded to add another DNS record that gave them access through Google to the company’s admin page for their apps account. " [23:24]
mircea_popescu lastpass is fucking stupid ftr. [23:24]
benkay so obviously the correct solution was to machine and harden our own .25M bearing races to decouple torque on stability fins from airframe. [23:24]
benkay (.25 m diameter) [23:25]
benkay *sigh* [23:25]
benkay i miss rockets. [23:25]
rithm derp [23:26]
benkay derp yourself [23:26]
rithm mircea_popescu took a vacation? [23:26]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: cannon car would be a major danger for the one bhind it << the one behind also fires. and so on, to the end of the column. don't stand there... [23:29]
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asciilifeform reduction to practice - exercise for alert reader. [23:29]
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ThickAsThieves Sheryl Sandberg apologizes for Facebook's News Feed experiment: 'we never meant to upset you' [23:30]
mircea_popescu anyway, for the record : Bitcoins Reserve / sam lee need to a) read the fucking history. this retarded shit happened once to bitpay. [23:33]
mircea_popescu bitpay fucktards didn't put the trilema article on he topic all over their site, [23:33]
mircea_popescu and so sam "didn't know" today. [23:33]
mircea_popescu and he ain't putting the by now years old trilema article al over his shitty "service" [23:33]
mircea_popescu so the next fucktards aren't gonna know. [23:33]
ThickAsThieves The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, a White House watchdog group that condemned the Obama administration's phone surveillance program earlier this year, has released another report ... According to the board, though, it's completely legal. [23:33]
mircea_popescu lastpass and "omaigawd i ar an engeniar" bullshit. [23:33]
mircea_popescu then they wonder why they're despised in bitcoin. well... this'd be why. stupidity does it. [23:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00081728 = 5.9661 BTC [+] [23:36]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves "we're not sorry we stole but terribly terribly sorry we got caught" [23:39]
ThickAsThieves exactly [23:40]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what trilema article? [23:40]
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BingoBoingo Huh, even with Death owning the board, life is still a value purchase [23:44]
ThickAsThieves Bitcoin payments on Expedia exceeding their expectations, “I think we’ve already seen what we’ve needed to see..." [23:44]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-events-of-failday/ http://trilema.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-verify-your-identity/ etc [23:45]
assbot The Events of Failday pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:45]
assbot O hai let me verify your identity! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:45]
mircea_popescu this entire "stolen emails" thing is a decade old by now. [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00081323 = 6.6685 BTC [-] {2} [23:46]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: Many merchants are shitty on Alibaba, but... A lot of people like consuming and reselling shit. << wasn't this essentially the pitch of ebay too ? [23:49]
mircea_popescu what, dropshipping is worth fiddy trillion now ? [23:49]
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BingoBoingo Well It's a place scared white Americans can get stuff from china and pretend to be "in industry" [23:49]
mircea_popescu i guess. [23:52]
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BingoBoingo It's like LVHM, it sell the pretense of being or being in a thing [23:52]
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ThickAsThieves http://new.livestream.com/draperuniversity/bitcoin-auction 3m to start [23:56]
assbot Tim Draper Bitcoin Press Conference on Livestream [23:56]
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