Forum logs for 03 Jul 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

jurov	!up ninjashogun >:D	[00:00]
*	assbot gives voice to ninjashogun	[00:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.181754 = 0.9088 BTC [+] {2}	[00:00]
jurov	!up aegis	[00:01]
*	assbot gives voice to aegis	[00:01]
thestringpuller	!mpif	[00:01]
assbot	BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021760 BTC (Total: 435.21 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]	[00:01]
*	aegis is now known as Aegis--	[00:01]
*	Aegis-- is now known as aegis--	[00:01]
BingoBoingo	!up cowloon	[00:01]
*	assbot gives voice to cowloon	[00:01]
*	aegis-- is now known as aegis	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	artifexd: I don't think MagicalTux does anything "professionally" << ok that was pretty good	[00:02]
BingoBoingo	!up SuchWow	[00:03]
*	assbot gives voice to SuchWow	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	sheit, all caught up with logs, again.	[00:03]
BingoBoingo	!up VanCleef	[00:03]
*	assbot gives voice to VanCleef	[00:03]
BingoBoingo	!up Ukyo	[00:04]
*	assbot gives voice to Ukyo	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea how long that makes it but i think i never missed A SINGLE LINE since logs were introduced.	[00:04]
BingoBoingo	!s pg@ycombinator.com	[00:04]
assbot	1 results for 'pg@ycombinator.com' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=pg%40ycombinator.com	[00:04]
mike_c	!down jurov	[00:05]
*	zoinky has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	mthreat status report in my inbox re yest : "Streets jammed with crazy hat wearers and trumpet people, Argentina's playing. Nueve de Julio es bloqueado completamente con locos."	[00:06]
aegis	Hi all... sorry for the nick changes... I was grouping nicks that some scammers were using earlier.	[00:07]
mthreat	mircea_popescu: it was crazy. I'm looking forward to more crazyness when they play belgium	[00:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00081814 = 7.8951 BTC [+] {2}	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	is this what, quarter finals by now ?	[00:08]
mthreat	i think so	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	aegis pretty sucky to have to group all the possible variations. got aeg1s ?	[00:08]
*	CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lhjvddgoaulfpdor) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:08]
aegis	lol... not yet	[00:09]
*	aegis is now known as aeg1s	[00:09]
BingoBoingo	!up CheckDavid	[00:09]
*	assbot gives voice to CheckDavid	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	a3gls ?	[00:09]
*	aeg1s is now known as a3g1s	[00:09]
*	a3g1s is now known as a3gis	[00:09]
benkay	ang31s?	[00:09]
a3gis	someone registered a3gis	[00:10]
a3gis	lol	[00:10]
asciilifeform	someone trusted (nobody from this channel obv) << why spam here?	[00:10]
*	a3gis is now known as aegis	[00:10]
aegis	Do any of you make a living just off bitcoin?	[00:10]
jurov	lol how many veecees you connected for 30k$ ???	[00:12]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2014#738969	[00:12]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[00:12]
*	blackwhite has quit (Quit: blackwhite)	[00:12]
aabtc	aclot Adohgg aegis agamemnon23 akstunt600 AlexWkz AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij artifexd asciilifeform assbot atcbot atian Azelphur	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	aegis how do you mean "any"	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	i'd imagine it's most.	[00:13]
aegis	nice	[00:13]
ThickAsThieves	Draper called him Satoshi Nakomura	[00:14]
jurov	ninjashogun have you talked to usagi?	[00:14]
*	Cory has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)	[00:15]
jurov	yea, i definitely recommend	[00:15]
Mats_cd03	Benkay is a real bro	[00:15]
*	nii236\|irssi has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[00:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00081892 = 5.8143 BTC [+]	[00:17]
*	nii236\|irssi (~nii236\|ir@115.187.224.176) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:17]
benkay	i even lift	[00:17]
jurov	;;seen usagi	[00:18]
gribble	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 38 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 29 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: No, but it will go over	[00:18]
*	Bugpowder (~Bugpowder@guest-wireless-upc-nat-206-117-88-005.usc.edu) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:18]
jurov	he's gone over to bitcointalk	[00:18]
*	Cory (Cory@unaffiliated/cory) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	!up Bugpowder	[00:18]
-assbot-	You voiced Bugpowder for 30 minutes.	[00:18]
*	assbot gives voice to Bugpowder	[00:18]
Bugpowder	tx	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	o look who's here.	[00:19]
benkay	a wild Bugpowder !	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	do you know hw to up yourself Bugpowder ?	[00:19]
Bugpowder	Just watching the livestream	[00:19]
Bugpowder	I don't know!	[00:19]
BingoBoingo	!b 6	[00:19]
assbot	Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/029AHHV.txt )	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder id with gribble pm assbot !up	[00:19]
ThickAsThieves	these guys just wont spit out the price huh	[00:19]
*	twizt has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[00:20]
jurov	hm, did anyone really wrote something that does justice to usagi's long and colorful career?	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves badly advised. supposedly it's gonna get more "exposure" this way.	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	jurov deprived, but iirc mostly deleted it.	[00:20]
Bugpowder	ok tx	[00:20]
thestringpuller	Holy shit	[00:21]
jurov	ninjashogun: he had only the purest and noblest intentions, you remind me of him	[00:21]
thestringpuller	Bugpowder:	[00:21]
thestringpuller	mah nigga	[00:21]
assbot	Usagi- is he or isn't he a scammer.	[00:21]
Mats_cd03	ikr	[00:21]
BingoBoingo	ninjashogun: The thing is to us you sound astoundingly like Usagi	[00:22]
jurov	yes you do something dont-name-it-bond	[00:22]
*	ThickAsThieves posts a "Do Not Feed the Trolls" sign.	[00:22]
BingoBoingo	ninjashogun: And then there's the people who built shit gasp with their own sweat and money	[00:24]
thestringpuller	ninjashogun: do you know the story of "The Boss"?	[00:25]
jurov	just do a garage sale	[00:25]
jurov	!down ninjashogun	[00:25]
*	assbot removes voice from ninjashogun	[00:25]
Bugpowder	If anyone wants to put $50-250k+ into a real near field microscopy startup at the angel stage, let me know.	[00:25]
thestringpuller	HAHAHAHA	[00:25]
BingoBoingo	ninjashogun: That's why most restaraunts hire dishwashers, so people can realize their dreams	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder what's your involvement ?	[00:27]
Bugpowder	Good friend of mine	[00:27]
Bugpowder	I might put in 50	[00:27]
ThickAsThieves	dude outright wont say what he paid :(	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	i might have too, if i knew him.	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves "if you're watching it, you're in the demo"	[00:28]
*	RagnarDanneskjol (~shannonmo@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:28]
Bugpowder	I know the tech is solid, he just quit job with market leader to found the company, and will partner back with them.	[00:28]
thestringpuller	hey Bugpowder how's it been man?	[00:30]
Bugpowder	good. up and running LA	[00:30]
*	assbot removes voice from aegis	[00:31]
*	RagnarDanneskj-1 (~shannonmo@66.85.174.114) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:31]
Bugpowder	Tech is basically a sSNOM that can work on existing microscopes. Spans atomic to microscopic scale imaging. Field will blow up next year. https://www.bruker.com/fileadmin/user_upload/8-PDF-Docs/SurfaceAnalysis/AFM/Webinars/6_27_13_Webinar-sSNOM-beating_diffraction_limit_by1000X.pdf	[00:32]
*	assbot removes voice from cowloon	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	sounds pretty cool	[00:32]
*	RagnarDanneskjol has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)	[00:33]
*	RagnarDanneskj-1 is now known as RagnarDanneskjol	[00:33]
*	assbot removes voice from SuchWow	[00:34]
*	assbot removes voice from VanCleef	[00:34]
*	assbot removes voice from Ukyo	[00:34]
Bugpowder	I can put you in touch if possibly interested. He has plan and deck can show privately.	[00:34]
*	urh has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[00:35]
*	Quanttek has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[00:36]
*	only has quit ()	[00:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12559 @ 0.00082051 = 10.3048 BTC [+] {2}	[00:37]
*	zoinky (~Adium@unaffiliated/zoinky) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:37]
*	assbot removes voice from CheckDavid	[00:39]
*	Trix (~lol111lll@184-96-56-97.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:39]
Bugpowder	Poor dogecoin. DFJ is out on doge.	[00:41]
*	ninjashogun (~User@catv-212-96-61-236.catv.broadband.hu) has left #bitcoin-assets	[00:41]
fluffypony	DFJ?	[00:41]
*	trixisowned has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[00:42]
Bugpowder	Draper	[00:42]
fluffypony	ah ok	[00:42]
*	davout has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[00:44]
*	davout (~davout@unaffiliated/davout) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:44]
*	chax has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[00:45]
*	chax (~chax@162-238-124-68.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:46]
*	Trix is now known as trixisowned	[00:46]
*	nubbins` (~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:48]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-june-2014-statement/	[00:49]
*	assbot removes voice from Bugpowder	[00:49]
*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[00:49]
nubbins`	davout is slovak?	[00:49]
nubbins`	i thought he was french	[00:49]
*	chax has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[00:50]
jurov	he is french	[00:52]
jurov	and paymium is shown with english interface, that's why i write about i18n	[00:53]
nubbins`	https://twitter.com/TimDraper/status/484435349595512833	[00:53]
assbot	Tune into a live stream at 2pm Pacific Time to learn more about Bitcoin and the Bitcoin auction. http://t.co/2KeriLXOhJ	[00:53]
mike_c	%p	[00:54]
mthreat	^watching - this is kind of painful to watch	[00:54]
atcbot	[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.38 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 10005.56 GH/s	[00:54]
mike_c	nubbins`: highlight was: he's not telling on price.	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	jurov i thought he was nigerian	[00:55]
nubbins`	:(	[00:55]
nubbins`	i'd say he went between 800 and 1k	[00:55]
jurov	mircea_popescu misheard vegetarian?	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	no ?	[00:56]
jurov	then i dunno	[00:56]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: I'm leaning to suspect that as well. That the reason he isn't talking price yet is he doesn't want to appear to have overpayed	[00:57]
*	chax (~chax@2602:30a:2ee7:c440:60fa:4574:d21e:b1a8) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:58]
mike_c	1k isn't overpaying for 30k bitcoins	[00:59]
mike_c	;;market buy 15000	[00:59]
gribble	Bitstamp \| This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 12234.28 bitcoins, for a total of 14798736.0877 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. \| Data vintage: 0.0354 seconds	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	either that or he got it for free and they're working on an angle.	[00:59]
mike_c	;;market buy 10000	[00:59]
gribble	Bitstamp \| A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 7554622.7432 USD and would take the last price up to 1005.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 755.4623 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 19.0805 seconds	[00:59]
nubbins`	well y'know. you're talking about an inconvenience in buying	[01:01]
nubbins`	he buys something with 1btc tomorrow, he's out money	[01:01]
nubbins`	he buys something worth 5000 btc tomorrow, he's out money	[01:02]
*	chax has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[01:03]
mike_c	i don't think he spent his last $ on the coins.	[01:05]
BingoBoingo	http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/the-wrong-way-to-beg-for-money	[01:05]
assbot	the wrong way to beg for money	[01:05]
nubbins`	i don't think he spent "his" money at all	[01:05]
*	assbot gives voice to Namworld	[01:05]
Namworld	I am now attracting threats of harm to me and my family, for working for a Bitcoin casino and for having a few BTC. Apparently I'm responsible for Scrat's debts because Scrat not reachable/can't pay.	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	scrat disappeared ?	[01:06]
Namworld	The worst way to beg for money.	[01:06]
nubbins`	people are threatening you and your family?	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	i didn't know Namworld was married.	[01:06]
Namworld	Nevermind that I can't do anything about it nor have access to Scrat's wallet.	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	so wait, coinroll is belly up ?	[01:07]
Namworld	Nah, I'm not. Some schmuck who probably lost money on Coinroll and can't get to scrat found my Facebook.	[01:07]
kyuupichan	blockchain.info just gets worse and worse	[01:07]
nubbins`	Namworld, bummer	[01:07]
nubbins`	better call the cops	[01:07]
Namworld	No, Coinroll did no such thing. But apparently his losses aren't legit and Scrat owes him.	[01:07]
kakobrekla	kyuupichan blockr.io	[01:08]
*	assbot gives voice to davout	[01:08]
Namworld	Normally I'd think the guy is a retard because I'm not the right nor wealthiest target in this... but that's what makes it worse. I imagine a retard could well decide to go gangster and show up.	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	uh.	[01:08]
justusranvier	First mistake: having a Facebook account	[01:08]
*	chax (~chax@104-1-89-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:09]
fluffypony	lol	[01:09]
davout	jurov mircea_popescu french/dutch/nigerian by adoption = a fun world cup	[01:09]
fluffypony	I kinda agree with justusranvier	[01:09]
fluffypony	Facebook is the devil	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	dude these pics i made yest kick all conceivable ass	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	Namworld maybe it';s a hot chick and you end up with a new, fiery girlfriend ?	[01:10]
Namworld	eh	[01:10]
*	mike_c has quit ()	[01:10]
justusranvier	Second mistake: logging into IRC with your home cable modem's IP address exposed.	[01:13]
Namworld	I don't really hide my idendity. Never have, never wanted to. Anymore than mircea tries to hide anything about who he is. I don't have anything to hide. If I wanted something not known, it wouldn't be known.	[01:15]
Namworld	My IP doesn't matter when I've never hidden my name.	[01:15]
Namworld	There was a guy who at first claimed his son gambled his BTC on Coinroll, it's illegal, refund it. Was very insisting. Then another claimed Scrat stole the money and laundered it on his website (no idea how he knew the address his "stolen" BTC went to was a Coinroll address). Then some guy threatening legal action to me directly, having dug up my info. I told him I don't own or have	[01:15]
Namworld	access to Coinroll. Now I have harm threats and guy says he doesn't care I'm neither owner nor have access to Coinroll's wallet. I have to pay up from my personal money or I won't live...	[01:15]
Namworld	They all sounded alike... not sure if I should laugh, or fear a retard actually showing up... Even if he comes for me, the guy will still be a retard.	[01:16]
justusranvier	As the exchange rate of Bitcoin increases, so will the incentive of those who are inclined to use extortion, kidnapping, ransom, lawsuits, etc in order to obtain it.	[01:17]
davout	Namworld: retards don't actually do the things they threaten about	[01:17]
davout	justusranvier: lawsuits <<< okay	[01:18]
Namworld	Some retards do, thinking it's actually a good idea. Fortunately that's not too common...	[01:18]
justusranvier	Yeah, lawsuits is redundant with extortion	[01:18]
davout	Namworld: meh, if the guy is that retarded how do you expect him to gather your address from your facebook	[01:19]
Namworld	@justusranvier Yes about exchange rate, apparently so. I've told the guy he didn't make sense. I'm not the one owning him and if he wanted to extort someone, there's better targets that are just as public.	[01:19]
Namworld	I have my address right there on whois. The guy has known it for months.	[01:20]
Namworld	He doesn't show up tho. All I get is IRC threats and addresses to make payments to...	[01:22]
*	sHINOBI_CZ (~sHINOBI_C@cl-193.prg-01.cz.sixxs.net) has left #bitcoin-assets	[01:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1869998 = 0.561 BTC [+]	[01:25]
davout	Namworld: well, pay him or tell him to fuck off i guess	[01:25]
davout	or maybe just send him a drawing of a spider as payment :3	[01:26]
Namworld	I told him basically just that. That's his threats are pointless and not at the right target.	[01:26]
davout	no no, that's trying to use some sort of logic, just "fuck off" i meant	[01:27]
benkay	urgh bitbet and mpif are now so tangled	[01:27]
benkay	only thing missing is bitbets about mpif nav	[01:28]
Namworld	It's not gonna magically make his money appear. If he's serious he can just come to beat me and rob me, but it wouldn't be really any different than any other house robbery.	[01:28]
benkay	kyuupichan: what's going on with blockchain today?	[01:28]
davout	benkay: just not working	[01:28]
jurov	benkay gotta put some specially crafted bet related to mpif to close the loop	[01:30]
Namworld	I'm surprised jurov/wao haven't received threats already. I'm sure they'll start coming in from random people soon enough.	[01:31]
jurov	i don't disagree, you just happen to be most visible and in a country with most prone law system	[01:33]
*	[KS] has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[01:33]
Namworld	yes, legal threats are obviously easy. Doubt it would fly in court when I have no control on Coinroll. Would probably be instantly dismissed, I hope.	[01:34]
jurov	btw, how exactly is your situation different from dooglus' ?	[01:35]
jurov	"no control" i see, but investment and/or cooperation still falls under that law?	[01:36]
Namworld	It's not different. I can't operate Coinroll in Canada, hence why I refused to take it over. Scrat offered it for free to me and someone else. Me being in Canada and other in US, we refused.	[01:36]
Namworld	Well it might be potentially illegal in Canada to operate. But it's not illegal in all jurisdiction and as far as I know, foreign investment is not forbidden.	[01:37]
*	jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15572 @ 0.00081895 = 12.7527 BTC [-] {2}	[01:38]
Namworld	Aka, I can't own/operate most BTC things in Canada without license. But there's never been anything preventing investment in legal foreign companies...	[01:39]
*	samO has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[01:40]
jurov	are you required to disclose such investment?	[01:40]
Namworld	Maybe one could prosecute me because it's not registered. Maybe some zealous prosecutor could try to argue I'm an owner. But it wouldn't make much sense. It wouldn't close the business nor prevent operations.	[01:40]
Namworld	I don't control/operate it.	[01:41]
*	daybyter has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)	[01:41]
Namworld	I might have to disclose it. Something I'll have to investigate how to do.	[01:41]
*	[KS] (KS]@thinks.the.feds.are.investigat.in) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:42]
Namworld	One thing I know I'd have to disclose is any income/profit, obviously. The taxman will want a cut.	[01:42]
fluffypony	what	[01:43]
fluffypony	this is stupid	[01:43]
fluffypony	http://blog.coinbase.com/post/90552757447/the-future-of-bitcoin-storage-wallets-vaults	[01:43]
assbot	The Coinbase Blog The Future of Bitcoin Storage: Wallets + Vaults	[01:43]
fluffypony	do no coinbase users know about NLockTime?	[01:43]
mircea_popescu	i would wager not.	[01:43]
davout	"do no coinbase users know" <<< that sentence could have stopped right here	[01:44]
Namworld	Most news article about Bitcoin and especially "what is the future/good for BTC" is stupid, fluffypony	[01:44]
Namworld	mircea_popescu, if it's not too indiscrete to ask, with the fortune you've accumulated in BTC so far, haven't you received threats/extortion demands so far?	[01:44]
mircea_popescu	access to Coinroll. Now I have harm threats and guy says he doesn't care I'm neither owner nor have access to Coinroll's wallet. I have to pay up from my personal money or I won't live... << so tell him the same lol	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, you're running into what i'll call from now on the andreas proble,	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	it goes like this : you wanna play with the adults, you gotta wear adult breeches.	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	can't afford security detail ? stfu, do something else with your time. bitcoin is not for you.	[01:46]
mircea_popescu	don't have a team of lawyers on each fucking continent ? stfu, bitcoin is not for you. etc.	[01:46]
*	jborkl has quit ()	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	only thing missing is bitbets about mpif nav << building the finances of a nation here naimean ?	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	Namworld of course i have. i also enjoy killing people.	[01:48]
Namworld	I somehow thought so, eh	[01:50]
*	diatonic has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	exactly how beaten up should a would-be robber/etc be before he's been beaten up too much is a matter the courts never quite carved out.	[01:51]
*	trixisowned has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	you can probably not take a whole week doing it, but then again most schmucks wouldn't last a week anyway.	[01:51]
*	jonvaage (~jonvaage@50.97.82.42) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:52]
*	jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[01:54]
*	Guest97379 is now known as mod6	[01:54]
benkay	a week isn't a beating, that's torture.	[01:54]
mircea_popescu	o it is ?	[01:55]
benkay	and if you can't make a torturing go on for a week...	[01:55]
benkay	well gosh am i really talking to the real mp?	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	i guess the date the guy got caught must have been misreported then.	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	shit happens.	[01:55]
*	assbot gives voice to mod6	[01:55]
benkay	i'm sure a beating could go on for a full week, but what do you have after a day? pulp?	[01:56]
benkay	mircea_popescu: you'd know, not i	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	hey, it's namworld's friend we're talking about. che c'entro io	[01:56]
BingoBoingo	%d	[02:00]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 582285.14 in 431 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 13.84	[02:00]
BingoBoingo	%p	[02:00]
atcbot	[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.38 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 10769.11 GH/s	[02:00]
*	mikaeldice (~mikaeldic@unaffiliated/mikaeldice) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:04]
*	trixisowned (~lol111lll@184-96-56-97.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:04]
*	jborkl has quit ()	[02:05]
*	bitstein (48b66859@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.182.104.89) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:05]
*	assbot gives voice to bitstein	[02:06]
*	pi07r has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[02:08]
*	mike_c (~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:11]
*	CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)	[02:12]
*	assbot gives voice to mike_c	[02:13]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: Life can't catch a break	[02:15]
mike_c	there have been some good fights for the bombs, but death's have been more effective.	[02:16]
*	chax has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[02:16]
mike_c	whoever got that pre-game bet in on death is killing it	[02:17]
*	chax (~chax@2602:306:8015:9990:684f:913a:9529:e339) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:17]
*	BingoBoingo doesn't know who could have seeded the death pot...	[02:18]
*	BingoBoingo looks shifty atm	[02:18]
*	chax has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[02:21]
mike_c	hehe. well good bet whoever it was :)	[02:21]
BingoBoingo	There's still time for life to try something bombwise in a sustained manner.	[02:22]
*	bgupta_ (~bgupta@65.78.2.251) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:23]
BingoBoingo	I suspect the earliest bombs really set the stage though	[02:23]
mike_c	life is very scattered. needs some good bombs to connect those islands	[02:24]
*	bgupta has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[02:24]
*	bgupta_ is now known as bgupta	[02:24]
*	frank1e has quit (Quit: In Free Lunch We Trust.)	[02:24]
benkay	whoever got that pre-game bet in on death is killing it // ohyou.png	[02:25]
BingoBoingo	2 Death No 4, 37 Small, prolly really set the stage...	[02:25]
Namworld	!up diablo-d3	[02:26]
*	assbot gives voice to Diablo-D3	[02:26]
Diablo-D3	[06:15:33] My IP doesn't matter when I've never hidden my name.	[02:27]
Diablo-D3	I dont hide mine either	[02:27]
*	chax (~chax@70-36-139-210.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	!up bgupta	[02:28]
-assbot-	You voiced bgupta for 30 minutes.	[02:28]
*	assbot gives voice to bgupta	[02:28]
*	CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nrmscmmdmcvoqxqm) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.03079906 = 0.7392 BTC [-]	[02:33]
*	pi07r (~pi07r@f212009.upc-f.chello.nl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:34]
mircea_popescu	!up pi07r	[02:34]
-assbot-	You voiced pi07r for 30 minutes.	[02:34]
*	assbot gives voice to pi07r	[02:34]
BingoBoingo	t	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	%t	[02:41]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 796k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 285	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	pankkake i took that test in spite of it starting with a retarded question. "Your top match for Which Atlas Shrugged character are you? is: John Galt"	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	%book	[02:42]
atcbot	18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 \| 899k@199 500k@151 175k@142	[02:42]
*	Sebastan has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	but i'm 69% dagny so perhaps we got something there.	[02:42]
pankkake	my second choice was dagny too	[02:44]
*	TomServo has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[02:46]
*	statdude_ (~statdude@66-87-126-195.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:46]
mircea_popescu	actually my 2nd is Hank Rearden (95%)	[02:46]
mircea_popescu	i guess i gotta break down and read this book now	[02:46]
mircea_popescu	!up statdude_	[02:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 70 @ 0.03079906 = 2.1559 BTC [-]	[02:46]
-assbot-	You voiced statdude_ for 30 minutes.	[02:46]
*	assbot gives voice to statdude_	[02:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15053 @ 0.00082086 = 12.3564 BTC [+]	[02:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.0175 = 1.225 BTC [-] {2}	[02:48]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/colonia-uruguay/	[02:49]
benkay	mircea_popescu: that's not thoth?	[02:50]
mircea_popescu	hm?	[02:50]
benkay	the teacher	[02:50]
*	dR3 is now known as Guest60713	[02:50]
*	Guest60713 has quit (Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))	[02:50]
*	dR3__ (~dR3@d142-179-255-10.abhsia.telus.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:51]
*	MarcSummers has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[02:51]
mircea_popescu	hm?!!	[02:52]
*	samO (4d2ec667@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.46.198.103) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[02:54]
benkay	man do you just write a post and then purge it from your brain?	[02:54]
benkay	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/colonia-uruguay/	[02:54]
assbot	Colonia, Uruguay pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[02:54]
*	darlidada has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	oh oh	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, you think ?!	[02:56]
benkay	first think i thunk	[02:56]
*	akstunt600 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[02:56]
BingoBoingo	benkay: Maybe if you wrote a post you could purge ninjashogun from your brain?	[02:56]
*	assbot removes voice from Diablo-D3	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	seems improbable to me, but who knows	[02:56]
benkay	i don't write posts no mo.	[02:56]
benkay	gotta take that thing down.	[02:57]
benkay	i'd rather write emails instructing clients on the correct course of action and get paid for such than...blog.	[02:58]
*	statdude_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[02:58]
benkay	don't really see why i should flatten out the information asymmetry either.	[02:58]
*	assbot removes voice from bgupta	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	because it makes it more difficult for the mediocres.	[02:59]
BingoBoingo	Oh, it is the parts of the information you flatten that matter	[02:59]
*	statdude (~statdude@66-87-126-195.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:03]
benkay	because it makes it more difficult for the mediocres. // pardon? i thought reducing asymmetry made for more efficient markets.	[03:03]
*	blackwhite_ (~blackwhit@198.254.112.34) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	if nobody publihes anything mr foreskinhead can continue to pretend like he's "advising" "clients".	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	so can lew rockwell.	[03:04]
*	lobbes has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[03:04]
*	assbot removes voice from pi07r	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	so can keiser. you were here when the a/b trick was explained no ?	[03:05]
benkay	mhm, i'm familiar.	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/	[03:05]
assbot	How to make money on the Internet while pretending you know what you’re talking about and accumulating a legion of mindless followers - for fun and profit! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[03:05]
benkay	i also don't have anything to say about things anymore.	[03:06]
benkay	so diff goes up - so what.	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	it's a skill.	[03:06]
benkay	so price is highly volataile, so what.	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	lol when's the last time i said something about that.	[03:06]
benkay	i don't really care to put my life online either.	[03:07]
benkay	at one point, one of the side goals was to leave a hole in the internet when i got disappeared, but now i'm just working on getting out of dodge.	[03:07]
*	zoinky has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[03:08]
benkay	i figure -assets will notice, and that's all that really matters.	[03:08]
*	statdude has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[03:11]
benkay	lol okay so dig this	[03:12]
benkay	the local art school - Pacific Northwest College of Smoking Cigarettes and Being a Hipster opened up a new dorm downtown with a neat little cafe in the bottom.	[03:12]
benkay	i stop in, figuring - hey, art school, coffee, wine, surely there will be some cuties around	[03:13]
benkay	but i guess the shit's too expensive for the students, as there's not a school-aged soul in the place during work hours	[03:13]
*	akstunt600 (~ak@65-78-62-173.c3-0.upd-ubr2.trpr-upd.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:14]
*	blackwhite_ has quit (Quit: blackwhite_)	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	haha	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	so put up a poster : wanna hang out here but too hip to afford it ? call me.	[03:15]
*	Trix (~lol111lll@67-6-161-7.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:15]
benkay	lol not bad	[03:16]
*	statdude (~statdude@66-87-126-126.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:16]
*	trixisowned has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[03:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00081915 = 23.5096 BTC [-] {3}	[03:21]
*	Bugpowder has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)	[03:24]
*	statdude has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[03:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 45 @ 0.01412781 = 0.6358 BTC [-] {5}	[03:25]
nubbins`	the weather's been really nice this week, and it has awakened a deep thirst	[03:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.03716272 = 1.3007 BTC [-] {7}	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	nudie beach ?	[03:27]
nubbins`	nah, just drinking a lot	[03:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 31 @ 0.03079906 = 0.9548 BTC [-]	[03:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5578 @ 0.0008122 = 4.5305 BTC [-]	[03:30]
nubbins`	capelin are rolling now anyway, beaches are gross	[03:30]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phL9yAfb9H8	[03:30]
assbot	Capelin Rolling - Newfoundland & Labrador - YouTube	[03:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 31 @ 0.0175 = 0.5425 BTC [-] {3}	[03:33]
*	statdude (~statdude@66-87-126-126.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12972 @ 0.00081495 = 10.5715 BTC [+] {2}	[03:40]
*	statdude has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[03:41]
*	joecool (~joecool@no-sources/joecool) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[03:41]
benkay	http://lafalafu.com/krc/privilege.html	[03:42]
assbot	The Male Programmer Privilege Checklist	[03:42]
bitstein	Hilarious	[03:47]
*	aegis has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[03:55]
*	AndChat\|679296 (~AndChat67@2607:fb90:220a:83b7:e174:4c6f:7b08:69bd) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14078 @ 0.00081372 = 11.4556 BTC [-] {2}	[04:01]
*	RagnarsBitch has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[04:03]
*	jonvaage has quit (Quit: Bye)	[04:05]
asciilifeform	i guess i gotta break down and read this book now << never read it before!? epic porn!	[04:08]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: can't afford security detail ? stfu, do something else with your time. bitcoin is not for you << alternatively, be boring. (works for me so far)	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	so here's a business idea : go by hospitals with trauma centers, buy amputated parts off amputees in order to cure the skin and make real human skin items	[04:20]
*	GunPlay (~GunPlay@pool-71-168-64-31.cncdnh.fast.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	such as i dunno, bikinis. and lampshades.	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	!up GunPlay	[04:20]
-assbot-	You voiced GunPlay for 30 minutes.	[04:20]
*	assbot gives voice to GunPlay	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	GunPlay you're not some sort of deranged pua are you ?	[04:20]
asciilifeform	http://www.humanleather.co.uk << almost	[04:21]
assbot	Human Leather Exclusive Products - Exquisite Wallets, Belts, Shoes	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform always been too lazy	[04:21]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Most amputees around here any more... Tend to be amputees because of conditions manifesting in the skin.	[04:21]
GunPlay	haha pick up artist?	[04:21]
*	assbot gives voice to GunPlay	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	nm that dude was gunwitch	[04:22]
*	asciilifeform owns a briefcase full of various tweezers, can pick up anything!	[04:22]
GunPlay	lol	[04:22]
GunPlay	my nick comes from playing first person shooters a lot back in the day	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	"The freedom to apply for a job at your partner's workplace without worrying that others will think you only got the job because of your partner."	[04:22]
GunPlay	quake 1	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	what are these people, retarded ?	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	"Telling someone to RTFM without being accused of PMS." this is, incidentally, older than all those involved.	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	pretty sure it survives intact since the old codex.	[04:23]
benkay	old codex?	[04:23]
asciilifeform	s/codex/testament ?	[04:24]
benkay	ah yes "go to the back of the column until you're fit to associate with humans again"	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	nono the jargon file	[04:25]
asciilifeform	what are these people, retarded << not exactly. this crud is at least as old as 'poenitentiam agite.'	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	GunPlay wait, you're the guy mthreat mentioned ?	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	!s gnuplay	[04:28]
assbot	0 results for 'gnuplay' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=gnuplay	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	ah no, danielpbarron yest.	[04:29]
benkay	asciilifeform: what's a good name for the statal organizations who encourage citizens to report each other for 'infractions'?	[04:30]
asciilifeform	benkay: different names, depending on the cultural flavour of the particular example	[04:31]
asciilifeform	benkay: just as a 'samurai' isn't quite the same animal as european 'knight,' a soviet стукач isn't entirely the same species as a new york 'stoolie' - etc.	[04:32]
asciilifeform	'стукач' ~= 'one who knocks' (implication, on the 'right door')	[04:34]
*	RagnarsBitch (~AndChat67@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:35]
mthreat	mircea_popescu: no that guy works at bitpay, it turns out	[04:37]
*	AndChat\|679296 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	lol k	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	;;prevdiff	[04:38]
gribble	13462580114.5	[04:38]
GunPlay	mircea_popescu: naw, I don't know mthreat	[04:38]
mircea_popescu	;;diff	[04:38]
gribble	1.6818461371161112E10	[04:38]
BingoBoingo	;;bc,stats	[04:39]
gribble	Current Blocks: 308950 \| Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 \| Next Difficulty In: 1513 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 15773777899.9 \| Estimated Percent Change: -6.21153	[04:39]
GunPlay	danielpbarron suggested I join this channel and learn about Bitcoin via mostly experts	[04:39]
GunPlay	good stuff, I'll just lurk for a while I suppose :-)	[04:40]
BingoBoingo	GunPlay: That doesn't hurt, but also throwing things out in the channel can be productive	[04:41]
*	AndChat\|679296 (~AndChat67@2607:fb90:220a:83b7:8905:3e7a:364:c564) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	Jobs that exist: Corn thing edition http://sidespin.kinja.com/terrible-jobs-ive-had-detasseling-886639615?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=wednesdayPM	[04:44]
assbot	Terrible Jobs I've Had: Detasseling	[04:44]
*	jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:44]
*	RagnarsBitch has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	http://38.media.tumblr.com/0ec79cc9c0f2a0fc8e28741a062e3f36/tumblr_mf37luSEjK1rnk53bo1_500.jpg	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	there, i've thrown out a very unfortunate young lady.	[04:45]
asciilifeform	why unfortunate	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbacaga38b1r3grd2o1_500.jpg	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	compare and contrast.	[04:46]
*	jborkl has quit (Client Quit)	[04:47]
benkay	GunPlay: per BingoBoingo's comment above, being wrong is not a crime here. refusing to listen to reason, though...	[04:48]
GunPlay	benkay: haha, that makes sense	[04:49]
mike_c	%p	[04:50]
*	chax has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[04:50]
atcbot	[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 14243.64 GH/s	[04:50]
GunPlay	well, I mention to danielpbarron that I was interesting in people doing Bitcoin projects	[04:50]
GunPlay	new ideas, implementations, products, both free or not	[04:51]
GunPlay	sorry for the misspellings, meant to say interested	[04:51]
GunPlay	daniel said I should hang out here	[04:51]
GunPlay	that a lot of you guys are driving Bitcoin development in some way, whether directly or through community	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	;;topic	[04:52]
gribble	http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[04:52]
BingoBoingo	GunPlay: The occasional spelling or grammar slip is fine. I'm drunk here occasionally.	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	lot of good stuff in the logs GunPlay	[04:52]
GunPlay	ah, cool, I'll check 'em out	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	!s coinfront	[04:53]
assbot	4 results for 'coinfront' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=coinfront	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	o those derps. mkay.	[04:53]
*	RagnarsBitch (~AndChat67@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:53]
GunPlay	BingoBoingo: I look forward to your drunken rants ;-)	[04:54]
BingoBoingo	There's plenty in the logs	[04:54]
GunPlay	lol	[04:54]
*	jordandotdev (uid7502@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mhxnfjwmnjyuimfh) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:55]
*	AndChat\|679296 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[04:56]
BingoBoingo	Also on the blog	[04:56]
*	chax (~chax@162-238-124-68.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[04:58]
[]bot	Bet created: "BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold " http://bitbet.us/bet/976/	[04:58]
*	akstunt600 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[04:59]
[]bot	Bet created: "BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/977/	[05:00]
*	akstunt600 (~ak@65-78-62-173.c3-0.upd-ubr2.trpr-upd.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:00]
*	Trix is now known as trixisowned	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	;;rated dooglus	[05:02]
gribble	You rated user dooglus on Mon Apr 22 15:22:55 2013, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Does useful things..	[05:02]
[]bot	Bet created: "Bond Bubble Bursts" http://bitbet.us/bet/978/	[05:02]
mircea_popescu	;;rate dooglus 3 Truly a pillar of the community.	[05:02]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user dooglus has changed from 2 to 3.	[05:02]
*	chax has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)	[05:03]
[]bot	Bet created: "Japanese Government Bond Bubble Bursts" http://bitbet.us/bet/979/	[05:03]
[]bot	Bet created: "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 9B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/980/	[05:04]
benkay	no community, only capitalism.	[05:06]
*	bitcoinpete (~bitcoinpe@unaffiliated/bitcoinpete) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47712 @ 0.00081656 = 38.9597 BTC [+] {4}	[05:09]
*	bitcoinpete_ (~bitcoinpe@unaffiliated/bitcoinpete) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:11]
*	bitcoinpete_ has quit (Client Quit)	[05:11]
*	CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)	[05:12]
*	bitcoinpete has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[05:12]
BingoBoingo	%d	[05:14]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 600351.50 in 355 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 17.37	[05:14]
mike_c	gotta love that stabilization :)	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:18]
*	statdude (~statdude@c-76-27-91-221.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:18]
BingoBoingo	%t	[05:19]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 787k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 286	[05:19]
BingoBoingo	Is this "stabilization" going to happen after every time I make a monthly statement?	[05:20]
mike_c	pool hoppers are subscribed to your blog rss	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:21]
*	chax (~chax@162-238-124-68.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:22]
*	statdude has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[05:25]
BingoBoingo	Watch the difficulty drop mid month, because It's been too long since I made a statement	[05:26]
*	statdude_ (~statdude@c-76-27-91-221.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:26]
BingoBoingo	%ob	[05:29]
atcbot	18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 \| 898k@199 500k@151 175k@142	[05:29]
BingoBoingo	https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/ << I wonder if extinction might happen this round	[05:31]
assbot	War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!	[05:31]
*	RagnarDanneskjol has quit (Quit: RagnarDanneskjol)	[05:31]
*	chax has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)	[05:32]
*	statdude_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[05:32]
mike_c	catch a falling dagger and you could make out	[05:34]
BingoBoingo	I just wonder if some Life bagholder is going to start bombing like hell	[05:35]
mike_c	hehe. after you go to sleep of course	[05:35]
mike_c	ouch, it's a blood bath on the life side	[05:36]
*	RagnarDanneskjol (~shannonmo@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:36]
BingoBoingo	Well, the first random and first paid bombs really set the tone	[05:37]
mike_c	game's been going for 14 hours.. "expected" time for this # of frames is 49 hours. speed WoL!	[05:39]
BingoBoingo	Indeed	[05:43]
*	RagnarDanneskj-1 (~shannonmo@184.164.154.186) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:43]
*	chax (~chax@2602:30a:2ee7:c440:6805:d618:4455:1b3f) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:44]
*	RagnarDanneskjol has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[05:45]
*	twizt (18bc4613@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.188.70.19) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:47]
*	joecool has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[05:47]
*	MueKa (~mueka@ool-4577e42c.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:48]
*	MueKa (~mueka@ool-4577e42c.dyn.optonline.net) has left #bitcoin-assets	[05:50]
*	akstunt600 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[05:53]
*	akstunt600 (~ak@65-78-62-173.c3-0.upd-ubr2.trpr-upd.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[05:53]
kyuupichan	mircea_popescu: "Amazon also will capitulate. Rejection reason: Consider submitting with paid wager."	[05:59]
kyuupichan	I did submit a paid wager, and you refunded it. I assume you mean you want a bigger one?	[05:59]
kyuupichan	Twas 0.1 BTC.	[06:00]
*	kermit has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[06:02]
BingoBoingo	The prolly wanted a bigger one seeing how little traction that sort of proposition gets on its own	[06:02]
nubbins`	^	[06:04]
*	moldysnizz has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[06:05]
*	moldysnizz (moldy@unaffiliated/moldysnizz) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.03881338 = 0.5434 BTC [-] {2}	[06:12]
*	chax has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[06:12]
*	kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:12]
*	chax (~chax@2602:30a:2ee7:c440:6805:d618:4455:1b3f) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00081657 = 15.7598 BTC [+] {2}	[06:16]
*	chax has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[06:17]
*	RagnarDanneskj-1 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[06:20]
*	moldysnizz has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)	[06:22]
*	moldysnizz_z (~moldysniz@unaffiliated/moldysnizz) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:22]
*	bitstein has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[06:23]
*	aegis (~aegis@unaffiliated/aegis) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:25]
*	Poffertje has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[06:26]
*	navhul-lacsup has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[06:37]
*	moiety (~moiety@unaffiliated/moiety) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:42]
*	assbot gives voice to moiety	[06:44]
*	chax (~chax@162-238-124-68.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:44]
moiety	mew	[06:46]
moiety	didja miss me?	[06:46]
*	Dimsler has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[06:46]
*	akstunt600 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[06:46]
*	akstunt600 (~ak@65-78-62-173.c3-0.upd-ubr2.trpr-upd.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:47]
*	chax has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[06:47]
*	chax (~chax@2602:30a:2ee7:c440:6805:d618:4455:1b3f) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:47]
justusranvier	https://twitter.com/altcoin_borat	[06:48]
assbot	Altcoin Borat (altcoin_borat) auf Twitter	[06:48]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Some shit site is ripping off the trend http://offbeat.topix.com/story/12832	[06:52]
assbot	This Cat Makes The Best Faces In The Whole Wide World.	[06:52]
moiety	BingoBoingo: doyou have any news for me?	[06:53]
*	Diablo-D3 has quit (Quit: do coders dream of sheep()?)	[06:53]
BingoBoingo	moiety: No new news yet. Which isn't a bad thing	[06:53]
moiety	can i just say i do no. 8 regularly	[06:54]
*	navhul-lacsup (~navhul-la@c-24-23-137-46.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:54]
moiety	no no not a bad thing at all. means they havent delievered the bad news to the otherws yet :D	[06:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00081375 = 3.1329 BTC [+]	[06:55]
moiety	can i also sat no 9. is my usual dau to day face lol	[06:55]
moiety	say*	[06:55]
BingoBoingo	lol	[06:56]
*	Cory has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[06:56]
*	assbot gives voice to bloctoc	[06:56]
danielpbarron	hi, GunPlay	[06:58]
*	Cory (Cory@unaffiliated/cory) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[06:59]
*	FabianB has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)	[06:59]
*	statdude_ (~statdude@c-76-27-91-221.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:00]
bloctoc	Yellen is turning out to be very good for bitcoin indeed!	[07:00]
bloctoc	Satoshi/Yellen for president	[07:00]
nubbins`	jannit yellin	[07:01]
*	Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-71-241-217-183.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:01]
*	Diablo-D3 has quit (Client Quit)	[07:01]
*	FabianB (~fabian@unaffiliated/fabianb) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:01]
*	twizt has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[07:02]
*	statdude_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[07:04]
bloctoc	Draper in Financial Times. http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c2b48d2c-01ec-11e4-bb71-00144feab7de.html#axzz36NGFo5Ls	[07:06]
assbot	Financial Times \| Error \| Akamai Error	[07:06]
*	Clue has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[07:11]
*	Cory has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[07:12]
*	Clue (~clue@ool-4572ed48.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:16]
moiety	BingoBoingo: has there been any other news... i see nothing other than the usual he said, she said derpiness	[07:17]
BingoBoingo	Not really	[07:18]
moiety	oh and can we play chess? (quite drunk - determined to beat you)	[07:18]
*	Clue_ (~clue@198-178-127-23.static.hvvc.us) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:18]
*	Pasha (Cory@unaffiliated/cory) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:19]
BingoBoingo	K, let me set up a board	[07:19]
moiety	omg really? now? you did not say yes... im getting a board ready just in case	[07:20]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Wait there was a sie wasn't there	[07:20]
*	Clue has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[07:20]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Remembered http://www.chess.com was a thing so we dun fill the logs up	[07:23]
assbot	Play Chess Online - Free Chess Games at Chess.com	[07:23]
*	Pilate has quit (Excess Flood)	[07:23]
*	BingoBoingo mixes another drink	[07:23]
*	Guest75790 (pilate@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:4b) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:23]
BingoBoingo	!up Pasha	[07:23]
*	assbot gives voice to Pasha	[07:24]
moiety	yaya k so whats the level of drunk 0-10?	[07:25]
moiety	level of drunk of the BingoBoingo i mean	[07:25]
*	mike_c has quit ()	[07:25]
BingoBoingo	Prolly a 4	[07:25]
moiety	ah fuck.... k .... be kind then	[07:26]
BingoBoingo	Coul be 6 by the end of the game	[07:26]
*	Pasha is now known as Cory	[07:27]
moiety	BB: why is it telling me every move i make is illegal	[07:35]
BingoBoingo	moiety: That's a good question	[07:37]
BingoBoingo	What sort of thing were we playing on again?	[07:37]
moiety	lol	[07:39]
moiety	chess?	[07:39]
*	akstunt600 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[07:39]
BingoBoingo	K, are we using the website?	[07:40]
moiety	but any move i make it says its illegal	[07:40]
*	akstunt600 (~ak@65-78-62-173.c3-0.upd-ubr2.trpr-upd.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:40]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Are we on the same site?	[07:40]
moiety	yeah i went to the link you gave	[07:40]
moiety	says you challenged me	[07:40]
BingoBoingo	Maybe you have to accept the invitation to the game or something?	[07:41]
*	Cory has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[07:41]
moiety	yeah i do that and get to the game no bother	[07:41]
*	Pasha (Cory@unaffiliated/cory) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:42]
BingoBoingo	Hmmm. moiety Maybe start another game and invire me this time? Maybe this site is jsut retarded	[07:42]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Seems to maybe be working now.	[07:44]
moiety	o no im just being dumb, think thats me in the game now	[07:44]
moiety	aye	[07:44]
moiety	jesus this is ultra fancy compared to our last board	[07:45]
BingoBoingo	Ah	[07:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00081375 = 8.0154 BTC [+]	[07:46]
*	bloctoc has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)	[07:46]
*	bloctoc (~bloctoc@c-67-174-198-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[07:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00081375 = 28.0744 BTC [+] {2}	[07:48]
*	Pasha is now known as Cory	[07:50]
BingoBoingo	%t	[07:51]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 205k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 294	[07:51]
*	Cory has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[08:01]
*	mikaeldice has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[08:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0008144 = 2.1989 BTC [+]	[08:04]
moiety	i swear you have extra bits than i do when we begin a game BingoBoingo	[08:04]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Well, anyone who bet life in WoL this round is prolly swearing moar	[08:05]
*	assbot gives voice to FabianB	[08:07]
*	kermit has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[08:07]
moiety	aha!	[08:08]
moiety	did you just take one of my bits?	[08:09]
BingoBoingo	Yup	[08:09]
moiety	i knew it!	[08:10]
BingoBoingo	And another	[08:10]
moiety	get back you	[08:10]
moiety	omg	[08:10]
BingoBoingo	moiety: You know... at some point you can start taking stuff too	[08:11]
moiety	ach weesht! I'm trying!	[08:12]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Nao you have to take a piece	[08:13]
*	Pasha (Cory@unaffiliated/cory) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:13]
moiety	i did ..i did!!!!	[08:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00081284 = 14.9563 BTC [-]	[08:14]
BingoBoingo	There you go. You're scottish. You dun have to be English sort of polite	[08:14]
moiety	shall i send you a "take me nao" tshirt?	[08:15]
BingoBoingo	Maybe?	[08:15]
BingoBoingo	moiety: After this game Imma get drunker and you're going to need to show aggression in the next game	[08:18]
*	ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@S010628c68e00af53.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:19]
*	Pasha is now known as Cory	[08:21]
*	kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:21]
moiety	how have you got a manny down on my homne row	[08:22]
BingoBoingo	!up ericmuyser	[08:22]
*	assbot gives voice to ericmuyser	[08:22]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Quite a few... You know sometimes you can move them out of the way (you can also flip the board to see what I see)	[08:22]
moiety	oh aye i just found the board flipping things.... i can move them out of the way?!	[08:23]
BingoBoingo	Well, when its your tune to move if I've threatened something... moving it to safety is an option	[08:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 32 @ 0.01702034 = 0.5447 BTC [-] {8}	[08:26]
BingoBoingo	http://www.earthtouchnews.com/media/179015/06_02_2014_manul_Pallass-cat_1_GalleryLarge.jpg	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	kyuupichan yeah, generally those sorts of bets struggle to even cross 1 btc total.	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	nobody really seems to care, see http://bitbet.us/bet/805/newegg-to-accept-btc-in-2014/	[08:28]
assbot	BitBet - Newegg to accept BTC in 2014 :: 0.07 B (50%) on Yes, 0.07 B (50%) on No \| closed 3 hours 36 minutes ago	[08:28]
benkay	where is the search engine i type in "thing i want".pdf and it gives it to me?	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	also, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72aglvFpd1rosrwvo1_500.jpg	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	!up Cory	[08:29]
-assbot-	You voiced Cory for 30 minutes.	[08:29]
*	assbot gives voice to Cory	[08:29]
benkay	nom	[08:29]
*	Guest75790 is now known as Pilate	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	benkay free independant woman ftw.	[08:30]
benkay	schroeder's buffet bio's decentish	[08:31]
mircea_popescu	moiety so how goes ?	[08:32]
*	ericmuyser has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[08:32]
*	ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@S010628c68e00af53.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:33]
*	akstunt600 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[08:33]
*	akstunt600 (~ak@65-78-62-173.c3-0.upd-ubr2.trpr-upd.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:34]
moiety	mircea_popescu: hello! so happy to finally have non intermittent interwebs (arrived today), nothing exciting. how are you?	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	pretty good	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	discovering how ba actually looks a lot like san diego	[08:36]
*	Clue_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[08:36]
mircea_popescu	i think they have a complex.	[08:36]
*	darlidada (~Decima`@unaffiliated/decima/x-7503346) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:36]
*	Clue (~clue@198-178-127-23.static.hvvc.us) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:36]
moiety	i missed you all!	[08:37]
moiety	san diego?	[08:37]
mircea_popescu	ya	[08:37]
cazalla	heh won knc bet, who would've thought	[08:38]
moiety	BingoBoingo: offs.. srs? i have like no bits left!	[08:39]
mircea_popescu	http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3u4g9XCRH1qfslojo1_500.jpg	[08:39]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Well you could resign or offer a draw and try again next game	[08:39]
moiety	"which of these chicks has a natural tan?!"	[08:40]
moiety	noooooooooooo BingoBoingo i shall lose squarely tyvm!	[08:40]
mircea_popescu	moiety they all look kinda natural no ?	[08:40]
moiety	my point exactly mircea_popescu :P	[08:41]
BingoBoingo	moiety: In that case you need to lose more bits this game so you protect them more ferverently next	[08:41]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[08:41]
mircea_popescu	kinda lanky awkward central.	[08:41]
moiety	but nipples.... so... eh?	[08:41]
mircea_popescu	lol brits and their eh	[08:42]
mircea_popescu	universal key of language, eh ?	[08:42]
moiety	eh	[08:42]
*	moiety nods	[08:42]
BingoBoingo	rolfbbqomg	[08:42]
mircea_popescu	bbqeh.	[08:42]
mircea_popescu	con queso.	[08:42]
BingoBoingo	%d	[08:43]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 626104.23 in 254 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 22.40	[08:43]
BingoBoingo	%t	[08:43]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 204k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 295	[08:43]
BingoBoingo	%ob	[08:43]
atcbot	18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 \| 51k@200 898k@199 500k@151	[08:43]
mircea_popescu	;;calc (2.67295072 - 2.24502432) / 272079.90524245	[08:44]
gribble	1.57279678416e-06	[08:44]
mircea_popescu	that's pretty good innit.	[08:44]
BingoBoingo	Looka like it	[08:45]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[08:45]
mircea_popescu	this entire reporting business i tell you... it's getting pretty thick.	[08:45]
BingoBoingo	Yeah	[08:45]
BingoBoingo	Soon, most of your month will be consumed by statements	[08:46]
mircea_popescu	almost done with mpif not even halfway there.	[08:46]
mircea_popescu	ya lol	[08:46]
moiety	BingoBoingo: have you got me in a point where i cant move?	[08:47]
mircea_popescu	what's this, impregnation chess ?	[08:47]
BingoBoingo	moiety: You have to move your king, because check	[08:48]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Not atm that I'm aware of	[08:48]
moiety	fucking better not be	[08:48]
moiety	ok i did something, no idea what but it was the only thing i could move	[08:49]
*	Cory has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[08:50]
BingoBoingo	Well, it happens	[08:50]
BingoBoingo	You can take a thing nao at least?	[08:51]
*	Namworld has quit ()	[08:52]
*	davout has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[08:55]
*	bocobit (~bocobit@2601:1:8d80:b38:f129:8ef1:a79c:dbd3) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:56]
*	Cory (Cory@unaffiliated/cory) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:56]
moiety	i did.... but i think it wasn't the best move to make... but im struggling cus, well, you know, you have ALL THE REST!	[08:57]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Well, now you know why you need to retaliate when I take your pieces	[08:58]
moiety	ya, moseying across the board doesnt cut it any more	[08:58]
*	Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-71-241-217-183.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[08:58]
BingoBoingo	Well, life is far more precarious than it was this point last round in the other game https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/	[08:59]
assbot	War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!	[08:59]
penguirker	New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-june-2014/	[09:00]
*	Cory has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[09:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6687 @ 0.0008143 = 5.4452 BTC [+]	[09:01]
*	Diablo-D3 has quit (Client Quit)	[09:02]
*	darlidada has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[09:05]
*	Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-71-241-217-183.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[09:05]
*	Diablo-D3 has quit (Client Quit)	[09:06]
BingoBoingo	moiety: GG	[09:09]
moiety	wait	[09:10]
moiety	how	[09:10]
moiety	wut	[09:10]
moiety	fuck	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-june-2014-statement/ some adjustments to btcalpha required.	[09:10]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[09:10]
assbot	F.MPIF, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[09:10]
moiety	thank you for being patient BingoBoingo	[09:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9059 @ 0.0008143 = 7.3767 BTC [+]	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	0.00021760 vs 0.00021734 tho so quite close.	[09:11]
BingoBoingo	moiety: You're welcome	[09:11]
moiety	sorry i don't give such a good game, I will some day. i promise you that!	[09:13]
*	RagnarDanneskjol (~shannonmo@184.164.154.186) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[09:13]
moiety	!up RagnarDanneskjol	[09:14]
*	assbot gives voice to RagnarDanneskjol	[09:14]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Well, you can give it a go as white nao	[09:15]
moiety	:D	[09:16]
*	Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-71-241-217-183.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[09:21]
moiety	BingoBoingo: i have no idea why i just did that last one ok... it just /is/	[09:24]
BingoBoingo	Well, things...	[09:24]
BingoBoingo	just sort do what they do	[09:24]
*	Diablo-D3 has quit (Client Quit)	[09:26]
*	akstunt600 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[09:26]
*	akstunt600 (~ak@65-78-62-173.c3-0.upd-ubr2.trpr-upd.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[09:27]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-june-2014-statement/	[09:28]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Good game	[09:30]
moiety	wut? already? i thought i was doing better this time!	[09:30]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Well, you kept more bits, but... You kind forgot to protect the important one.	[09:31]
moiety	ya.. i'm not quite at the stage of thinking ahead to what you will do next. i don't quite see how to protect that back bit without moving folk out	[09:32]
*	Cory (Cory@unaffiliated/cory) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[09:34]
BingoBoingo	Well, you've to to worry about the center of the board a bit more. Rooks are fun when you get them out, but... Early in the game they really dun have anywhere to go	[09:34]
moiety	my strategy so far as to: make a gap and then destroy all i can with the queen. sometimes this works sometimes it really doesnt	[09:35]
moiety	you always move your horse dudes pretty early. i must think about them more	[09:36]
BingoBoingo	Well, queen can get took too.	[09:36]
moiety	i like her cus shes pretty bi and can go loads of ways though	[09:36]
BingoBoingo	Horses are really dangerous early in the game because they can jump over the junk clogging things up	[09:36]
moiety	can they jump over anything?	[09:37]
BingoBoingo	Well, as long as they have a spot to land on	[09:37]
*	unbalanced (~smuxi@70.33.227.12) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[09:39]
BingoBoingo	%p	[09:39]
atcbot	[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 12504.27 GH/s	[09:39]
*	bocobit has quit ()	[09:39]
*	assbot removes voice from RagnarDanneskjol	[09:44]
moiety	dude, how do you leap across the board like that -_-	[09:45]
moiety	you won already	[09:46]
moiety	duuuuude	[09:46]
BingoBoingo	Well, practice	[09:48]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[18:01]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[18:01]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014	[18:01]
-assbot-	Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass.	[18:01]
*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[18:02]
kakobrekla	the conclusion, bitbet is delaying payments so they earn the big interest sitting on huge (over 3btc) balance	[18:03]
kakobrekla	http://shrani.si/f/2K/bl/3DJJzKcn/customerconclusion.png	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla eh tell them to get bent.	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell bitcoinpete huh ?	[18:03]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:03]
*	ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@S010628c68e00af53.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:03]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: betcha this fellow is american. over here, they'll bring a mostly empty bottle of vodka to the shop, say 'i didn't like it', get money back.	[18:04]
kakobrekla	lol	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	actually no, let's fix the incentive structure.	[18:05]
*	Vallance (~Admin@76.177.169.237) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla tell them that you've brought the matter to my attention, and i said that if i hear about this again i will not pay on that bet until august 3rd no matter what happens. then ask him if he wants to bring the matter to my attention again.	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	;et'	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	let's see what happens.	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	!up Vallance	[18:06]
-assbot-	You voiced Vallance for 30 minutes.	[18:06]
*	assbot gives voice to Vallance	[18:06]
*	bitstein (48b66859@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.182.104.89) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:06]
kakobrekla	mp, nowai cause this can end only end badly.	[18:06]
kakobrekla	:P	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	lol right.	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	hey, im willing to go to february 3rd 2015 after that.	[18:06]
*	assbot gives voice to bitstein	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yeah. this because 50 years ago it was actually worth your while as a shop keeper to make them happy, because they were diligent hard working sorts of people.	[18:07]
*	Vallance has quit (Client Quit)	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	nowadays...	[18:07]
*	Sebastan (~Sebastian@95-91-245-231-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:08]
pankkake	didn't he think that the info would not be available quickly when he bet?	[18:12]
pankkake	that's why I didn't bet, actually, I'm surprised it was approved without a resolution source in the first place	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	pankkake but whatever he thought then, right ? i mean suppose a girl invites him over and he THINKS it's for to fuck.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	then the girl just gives him tea. what now, does he throw a fit, rolling on the floor, snot everywhere ?	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	cause it wouldn't surprise me.	[18:13]
pankkake	I'm more like George, girl invites me over to fuck, but I just drink the tea	[18:13]
chetty	no, he tries to rape her, cause thats his right, otherwise he is a victim of tea	[18:13]
asciilifeform	!s trilema copilul anal	[18:13]
assbot	0 results for 'trilema copilul anal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=trilema+copilul+anal	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	chetty i k r ?	[18:14]
aabtc	aclot Adohgg aegis agamemnon23 akstunt600 AlexWkz AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij artifexd asciilifeform assbot atcbot atian Azelphur	[18:14]
asciilifeform	damnit	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform sheit, your depth of wisdom astounds me.	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	;;google copilul anal	[18:14]
asciilifeform	http://trilema.com/2011/copilul-anal	[18:14]
gribble	Parents banned from naming baby WikiLeaks after officials ruled it ...: ; Anus music music - Listen free at Last.fm: ; Trilenciclopedia pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: (1 more message)	[18:14]
assbot	Copilul anal pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	weird, i get it first hit.	[18:14]
mike_c	!mpif	[18:16]
assbot	BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021734 BTC (Total: 475.28 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	mike_c yay!	[18:17]
mike_c	who wants to be the btcalpha intern?	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	srsly.	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	who can one trust for the job tho ? maybe ask them directly.	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	kinda how i do it, if there';s people right on the brink of your wot as it were.	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	expand the bubble by eating the edges	[18:18]
mike_c	worth a shot.	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	just like bacterium do it. which, i've been thinking, is actually a very interesting situation. with the mechanics of bitcoin serving as a fundamental thermodynamics implementation, and the wot serving as a singalling space,	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	we're basically playing a mega game of life : we've each got our own bacterium	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	and so far, trying to make it eat and grow	[18:19]
kakobrekla	what is the intern suppose to do	[18:19]
kakobrekla	except for internet	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell bugpowder http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#741744	[18:19]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:19]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[18:19]
mike_c	get coffee and enter monthly updates.	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	check out the time piercing beauty of the log/later tell combo :D	[18:19]
*	akstunt600 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[18:20]
*	HeySteve2 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	mike_c usure not seeking 2nd wife ? that sounds like wife...	[18:20]
mike_c	work-wife	[18:20]
mike_c	;;ud work wife	[18:20]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=work%20wife \| That person at work (same or opposite sex) that takes the place of your "at home" spouse while you are at work (no sexual relationship is part of t...	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	(no sexual relationship is part of either relationship)	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	there ud fify	[18:20]
*	akstunt600 (~ak@65-78-62-173.c3-0.upd-ubr2.trpr-upd.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:20]
pankkake	;;ud secretary	[18:22]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=secretary \| secretary. A position filled by a female that has no other purpose except to perform specific duties for the boss or president of the company. ie: sucking, fucking, ...	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	eh. these people never ran an office.	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	generally speaking, the senior partner at a law firm will be fucking enraged if you manage to steal his secretary. he couldn't care less if half the junior "partners" leave.	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	the reason isn't that she's fucking him, but quite exactly the contrary : unlike all the junior schmucks, she isn't.	[18:24]
*	zoinky (~Adium@unaffiliated/zoinky) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4618 @ 0.00081457 = 3.7617 BTC [-]	[18:27]
*	Sebastan has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[18:29]
*	trixisowned has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[18:37]
*	cgcardona (~cgcardona@unaffiliated/cgcardona) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:38]
*	trixisowned (~lol111lll@67-6-172-1.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:41]
*	pactr has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	!s mcgrath	[18:42]
assbot	10 results for 'mcgrath' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mcgrath	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	!s trampstamp	[18:42]
assbot	3 results for 'trampstamp' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=trampstamp	[18:42]
mike_c	!s spy house jersey	[18:44]
assbot	38 results for 'spy house jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spy+house+jersey	[18:44]
mike_c	only 38??	[18:44]
*	mius has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[18:44]
kakobrekla	lol again with the spyhouse	[18:44]
mike_c	i could've sworn we said it a 100 times yesterday	[18:45]
kakobrekla	maybe its not parsed yet	[18:45]
*	pactr (~pactr@gateway/tor-sasl/captr) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[18:46]
*	navhul-lacsup has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[18:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.202 = 0.808 BTC [+]	[18:51]
*	dR3__ is now known as dR3	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	da fuck is this jersey thing	[18:51]
ThickAsThieves	lolz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339417.msg7658308#msg7658308	[18:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund	[18:52]
mthreat	kakobrekla: the cron was running once per day, I just updated it to run once per hour	[18:54]
jurov	TAT good one	[18:54]
kakobrekla	thats generous of you mthreat , thanks	[18:55]
mthreat	kakobrekla: np, it's very lightweight and fast.. we could make it real-time if we wanted, but probably not necessary	[18:56]
benkay	;;later tell hanbot by choosing bets that, as best can be determined, will be open for around a month at the least. // learned that one myself heh	[18:57]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69933066 BTC to 11`366 shares, 14951 satoshi per share	[19:00]
kakobrekla	i agree, although we started daily and it now is hourly, in a year, perhaps we will look for our next line on search	[19:01]
*	HeySteve (HeySteve@41-133-186-50.dsl.mweb.co.za) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:01]
*	HeySteve has quit (Changing host)	[19:02]
*	HeySteve (HeySteve@unaffiliated/heysteve) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla YOU HAD PROMISED ME MY LINES IN SEARCH	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	how long is this going to take!!	[19:02]
*	saulimus (~someone@mobile-internet-5d6a5c-152.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:02]
kakobrekla	i know email doesnt have a ban, but i think irc does?	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2F51tx306hb%2FCapture.jpg&t=541&c=bf37IGAdaIoDqA << ahahha nice one ThickAsThieves	[19:03]
kakobrekla	lol	[19:03]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: secretary << that wasn't about secretary. that was 'секретутка' - 'secretute'	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	lol sekretutka	[19:03]
asciilifeform	standard term. ask anyone.	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	but you see, that was mostly because of the ban on contraception.	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	people needed to get other people's wives in their harem.	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	hey lambchop, if you're reading this : i've had enough entertainment i'm willing to pay. pick any bitbet you want, i'll put 1 btc in your name on the side of your choice. lemme know.	[19:05]
asciilifeform	stalin died, condoms appeared, marriage as SOP didn't really start to sink till the '90s (ussr)	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	wait what ? that last bit ?	[19:06]
asciilifeform	people still saw it as 'the thing to do'	[19:06]
asciilifeform	culture dies slowly	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	o to sink. i read "sink in"	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	complete dissonance	[19:07]
asciilifeform	lol	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	i was like... what sort of tatar tribe from 1700 did this guy grow up with	[19:07]
benkay	mircea_popescu: who's lambchop?	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	the guy with the graph	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	tat linked his post above	[19:10]
benkay	hm	[19:11]
benkay	in other news, i'm looking at wireframes and user experience jibberjabber for a biggish home automation project	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	random factoid of the day : mongols used to call themselves "tata". the chinese called them daddy. that's the origin of the term, in all its permutations, big daddy and what have you.	[19:11]
jurov	lol sekretutka .. here sexretardka catched on instead	[19:11]
*	statdude (~statdude@66-87-126-12.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	jurov does that also connote she's slow & thick ?	[19:12]
jurov	no, just pretty but retarded	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	well yes. both slow and thick mean dumb :). however, slow is a good fuck and thick a good ass, so...	[19:13]
mircea_popescu	trying my hand at this entire lyricism thing.	[19:13]
benkay	god save us all	[19:13]
*	akstunt600 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[19:13]
jurov	benkay, save yourself	[19:13]
*	akstunt600 (~ak@65-78-62-173.c3-0.upd-ubr2.trpr-upd.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:14]
benkay	i'm already doomed	[19:14]
*	You are now known as mp_as_god	[19:14]
mp_as_god	no homo, bro.	[19:14]
*	You are now known as mircea_popescu	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	actually	[19:14]
*	You are now known as mp_as_god	[19:14]
*	navhul-lacsup (~navhul-la@50-203-185-210-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:14]
mp_as_god	how the fuck do you reg and add nicks again ?	[19:15]
benkay	eregister	[19:15]
*	davout (~davout@unaffiliated/davout) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:15]
kakobrekla	no, he wants /nickserv help	[19:15]
benkay	hurr services	[19:15]
mp_as_god	im such a noob ;/	[19:15]
-NickServ-	*** NickServ Help ***	[19:16]
-NickServ-	NickServ allows users to 'register' a nickname, and stop	[19:16]
-NickServ-	others from using that nick. NickServ allows the owner of a	[19:16]
-NickServ-	nickname to disconnect a user from the network that is using	[19:16]
-NickServ-	their nickname.	[19:16]
-NickServ-		[19:16]
-NickServ-	For more information on a command, type:	[19:16]
-NickServ-	/msg NickServ help	[19:16]
-NickServ-	For a verbose listing of all commands, type:	[19:16]
-NickServ-	/msg NickServ help commands	[19:16]
-NickServ-		[19:16]
-NickServ-	The following commands are available:	[19:16]
-NickServ-	GHOST Reclaims use of a nickname.	[19:16]
-NickServ-	GROUP Adds a nickname to your account.	[19:16]
-NickServ-	IDENTIFY Identifies to services for a nickname.	[19:16]
-NickServ-	INFO Displays information on registrations.	[19:16]
-NickServ-	LISTCHANS Lists channels that you have access to.	[19:16]
-NickServ-	REGISTER Registers a nickname.	[19:16]
-NickServ-	RELEASE Releases a services enforcer.	[19:16]
-NickServ-	SET Sets various control flags.	[19:16]
-NickServ-	UNGROUP Removes a nickname from your account.	[19:16]
-NickServ-		[19:16]
-NickServ-	Other commands: ACC, ACCESS, CERT, DROP, HELP, LISTOWNMAIL,	[19:16]
-NickServ-	LOGOUT, REGAIN, SETPASS, STATUS, TAXONOMY,	[19:16]
-NickServ-	VACATION, VERIFY	[19:16]
-NickServ-	*** End of Help ***	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Nick mp_as_god is now registered to your account.	[19:16]
jurov	/msg nickserv group mircea_popescu	[19:16]
jurov	oops wrong window	[19:16]
*	You are now known as mircea_popescu	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	ty	[19:16]
BingoBoingo	moiety: ntrly	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRfiorstv in ##buttcoin	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRfiorstv in #bitcoin-anal	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRfiorstv in #bitcoin-kevetch	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRfiorstv in #bitcoin-kvetch	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRfiorstv in #eulora	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRfiorstv in #mpex	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRfiorstv in #mpoe	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRfiorstv in #nude	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRVfiorstv in #trilema	[19:16]
-NickServ-	Access flag(s) +AFRfiorstv in #wol	[19:16]
-NickServ-	10 channel access matches for the nickname mircea_popescu	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	holy shit i own ##buttcoin	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	and #nude	[19:17]
*	assbot gives voice to davout	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	ok this is pretty cool.	[19:17]
ThickAsThieves	Dow broke 17k	[19:17]
ThickAsThieves	champagne for all!	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	lol.	[19:17]
*	darlidada has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)	[19:18]
jurov	where are we in the 1930's script again?	[19:18]
ThickAsThieves	we blew past it! no chance of crash anymore1	[19:19]
chetty	Berkeley Requires Marijuana Dispensaries To Provide Free Weed For Low-Income Patients	[19:19]
BingoBoingo	you know I wonder if these people that go on about various online bets argue with dealers at the blackjack table? << of course these people know what a casino is, it's the place they learned how to fly through a door	[19:19]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#741565 <<< ahahaha bashed	[19:19]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[19:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00081992 = 26.5654 BTC [+] {3}	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves permanently elevated plateau i say!	[19:20]
*	statdude has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	chetty lmao.	[19:20]
FabianB	$traded	[19:20]
empyex	FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE	[19:20]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-femfanon/	[19:21]
ThickAsThieves	<+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves permanently elevated plateau i say! /// such progress.	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	Virginia High Schooler Threatens Suicide, Police Arrive and Kill Him	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	“Why would you shoot a child that is suicidal? You are there to save him, not finish him off.”	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	ahahah	[19:22]
ThickAsThieves	"Christian was shot an unknown number of times by a Purcellville police officer"	[19:23]
ThickAsThieves	too many bullet holes to count i guess	[19:23]
ThickAsThieves	or counting no longer taught	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	pankkake: if it's what I understand (being paid bitcoins not fiat) << pretty cool actually.	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves "more than three"	[19:24]
jurov	he threatened the officer with suicide? i see	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	jurov no, he disobeyed!!1	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	you gotta keep in mind we're discussing this country where they have rooms where if anyone screams "freeze" all the adults just.. freeze	[19:25]
asciilifeform	'unknown number of times' << empty magazine in the end	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	well... "adults".	[19:25]
*	statdude (~statdude@66-87-126-12.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:25]
ThickAsThieves	On Tuesday, a misunderstanding between two armed men in a convenience store in Georgia led to one man drawing his gun and being arrested on the first day of the “guns everywhere” law.	[19:25]
ThickAsThieves	guncentralize all the things!	[19:25]
asciilifeform	whatever happened to shootouts being held in specially-designated places.	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	what is this law ?	[19:27]
*	statdude has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[19:28]
ThickAsThieves	Georgia’s new gun rules kicked in Tuesday, allowing residents to carry firearms into bars, nightclubs, classrooms and government buildings in a measure slammed by anti-weapon activists as a “dangerous kill bill.”	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	http://shrani.si/f/2L/xi/lRh7miy/customer.png << ahahah "but it is fast". epic.	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	!b 1	[19:28]
assbot	Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0Y77KK5.txt )	[19:28]
ThickAsThieves	mp what's your view on PAMM accounts?	[19:30]
ThickAsThieves	or anyone	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla i tell you honestly that's like the best customer support i've seen to date. you make me fucking proud.	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	i'm buying you a beer next we meet.	[19:30]
kakobrekla	lol.	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves it's a great idea in theory whose greatness in practice depends on not being used.	[19:31]
ThickAsThieves	i dont like them but i cant articulate exactly why	[19:31]
ThickAsThieves	just the sheepness i guess	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	it'll prolly work fine for as long as a very small fraction of trades are done this way.	[19:32]
*	CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	but as it becomes popular, it also becomes dangerous.	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	take just one model of an avenue of attack. suppose i have a known bitbet address, which is up 20% to date.	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	suppose bitbet implements pamm betting.	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	suppose i notice that any 5 btc i bet is followed by 20 btc in pamm bets.	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	suppose i bet 5 btc on "mp has three heads", then turn around and put 100 on the other side.	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	do the people pamming me have 2k btc ready ?	[19:34]
ThickAsThieves	thx	[19:34]
ThickAsThieves	that all helps	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	noob traders generally don't understand that the trinity is price, volume, volatility.	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	they just look at price	[19:35]
ThickAsThieves	indeed, so far, volume is the hardest thing for me to work with	[19:35]
ThickAsThieves	bitcoin may be volatile, but it isnt like you can just unload 100btc at any price you target	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	now that depends.	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is opaque, otc-driven on top of all of it.	[19:36]
thestringpuller	wtf is circle?	[19:40]
ThickAsThieves	vaporbank	[19:41]
ThickAsThieves	circle is now doing a little media trolling to get attention	[19:42]
ThickAsThieves	then they will release "free" bitocin purchasing	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	aren't they basically the start-up predicated on the notion that square made simple geometric shapes bankable ?	[19:44]
benkay	hey who's the blogger doing really great mining analysis?	[19:44]
benkay	voice of some greek or something?	[19:44]
BingoBoingo	%t	[19:44]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 229 Last Price: 200 24h-Vol: 38k High: 229 Low: 199 VWAP: 213	[19:44]
ThickAsThieves	organofcorti	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	!s organofcorti	[19:45]
benkay	thanks ThickAsThieves	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	damn	[19:45]
assbot	5 results for 'organofcorti' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=organofcorti	[19:45]
pankkake	square?	[19:45]
*	ericmuyser has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[19:45]
ThickAsThieves	https://squareup.com/	[19:45]
assbot	Accept Credit Cards From An iPhone, Android or iPad - Square	[19:45]
ThickAsThieves	Circle is kinda like US Neo I guess	[19:46]
benkay	aren't they due to fold sometime this or next quarter?	[19:46]
pankkake	it's not even square, it's a rounded square… http://i.imgur.com/xUXEP5g.png SCAM	[19:46]
ThickAsThieves	a warmer safer square	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	Goldman Sachs filed with the New York Supreme Court, requesting "emergency relief" to avoid a privacy violation and "avoid the risk of unnecessary reputational damage to Goldman Sachs."	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	what does "unnecessary" mean in this context ?	[19:47]
pankkake	as Gronibard would say, Il est pas carré, il est pas rond, il est ovale mon trou de balle	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	seems to me it's god damned necessary, people should stop hiring phantomcircuit	[19:48]
BingoBoingo	!b 4	[19:48]
assbot	Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/16Z66QN.txt )	[19:48]
ThickAsThieves	it's also funny that it's "avoid the risk of"	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	pankkake shit's gotta be rounded, otherwise children could who knows, give themselves a new cunt on the corners of the thing	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	and sue you for unnecessary feminisation.	[19:48]
ThickAsThieves	sue all the risk!	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	pankkake are these the nude doods ?	[19:49]
benkay	so okay i don't know anything about finance and i have a question	[19:49]
pankkake	they are rarely fully clothed in concert	[19:49]
benkay	so a bond market is in a bubble if there is lots of demand for the bonds, allowing the issuer to issue for less money.	[19:50]
benkay	lower interest.	[19:50]
benkay	okay i get it thank you for your assistance.	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	yw.	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	do you understand how bonds are priced, for that matter ?	[19:51]
benkay	let's say no - i'm sure i'll learn something useful.	[19:51]
benkay	everything i know about bond pricing comes from MPBOR	[19:51]
benkay	which...	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	ok, so i issue series A, 1 btc bonds paying 1 bitcent/month for 2 years.	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	how much is a series A worth atm ?	[19:51]
benkay	1 B + tvoB?	[19:52]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[19:52]
mircea_popescu	now, i issue series B, 1 btc bonds paying 5 bitcents/month for 1 year.	[19:52]
mircea_popescu	what is the value of A now ?	[19:52]
benkay	less?	[19:53]
benkay	because the available interest rate has gone up?	[19:53]
mircea_popescu	1 b+ tvoB(A) - tvoB(B)	[19:53]
benkay	sweet.	[19:53]
mircea_popescu	provided ideal liquidity etc.	[19:53]
benkay	right right	[19:53]
mircea_popescu	it's a very schematic model, but for the basics : if yields go up low yield older bonds are worth less	[19:53]
mircea_popescu	so bonds being worth less really means the market's going to shit for the issuer. such as you know, default looming or w/e	[19:53]
mircea_popescu	if yields go down, everyone's old bonds expand on the books	[19:54]
benkay	making all the old treasuries on all the US banks' books worth less, making them more depending on further bailouts?	[19:54]
*	kermit has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	which is why fake low yields are so important for the us financials atm :	[19:54]
benkay	more dependent*	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	their balance sheets consist entirely of worthless paper that has to be overvalued.	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	tyhis has the disadvantage that it bubbles up the stock exchange and (again) real estate	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	but they don't perceive they have options.	[19:55]
*	jonvaage (~jonvaage@50.97.94.29-static.reverse.softlayer.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:55]
mike_c	the fed isn't the sole buyer, they aren't entirely fake. there are others with vested interest in keeping us propped up.	[19:55]
*	kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	for the purposes of the macro discussion those others are the fed.	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	all the byzantine generals serving the same camp ARE in that camp,	[19:56]
mike_c	china = fed? how so?	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	irrespective of their motivations, whether they're there cause they're trying to fuck a guy's daughter or becaue they're drunk	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	i think equating the part of china propping the us currently with china is at best naive.	[19:57]
mike_c	hm. interesting. cuz the part of china doing the propping is also delusional?	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	china has a long history of making horrid public investments. that there's currently a china fed does not realy commit china	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	any more than all the uninhabited towns they built. they got scratch to waste.	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	it's not delusional, per se. it's just that china is large. when you're that large, spitting in every vessel isn't particularly noteworthy.	[19:58]
mircea_popescu	sure you got drowned in spit, but they didn't mean anything by it.	[19:58]
thestringpuller	ghost cities...	[19:58]
mike_c	http://usawatchdog.com/fed-laundering-treasury-purchases-in-belgium-to-disguise-whats-happening-paul-craig-roberts/	[19:59]
benkay	;;gettrust freeroute	[19:59]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user freeroute: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=freeroute \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=freeroute \| Rated since: Tue Apr 2 18:13:09 2013	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	mike_c for instance.,	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	looking forward to the "cash-basis bond evaluation" becoming a thing with us banks.	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	where if you have 100 btc at 1% while the yields atr 0.5% you book a 200 btc passive.	[20:01]
benkay	wat	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	then if you need 1k btc to cover your profile you just take yields to 0.1%. or w/e, 0.00001% if need be.	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	benkay if one's in the business of making money out of nothing, one's stuck doing it.	[20:02]
thestringpuller	is it really out of nothing?	[20:03]
Apocalyptic	it is	[20:03]
*	kermit has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[20:04]
thestringpuller	but BTC doesn't come from nothing...	[20:04]
*	JonathanVaage (~jonvaage@50.97.94.29-static.reverse.softlayer.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller i was using btc as a unit of account stylistically, to underline the lulz that is fiat.	[20:04]
pankkake	you sound like a socialist! faceless globalized finance is money out of money!	[20:04]
benkay	!b 1	[20:05]
assbot	Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/116TAWC.txt )	[20:05]
*	jonvaage has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[20:07]
*	jonvaage (~jonvaage@50.97.94.29-static.reverse.softlayer.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:07]
thestringpuller	socialism will save us all tho!	[20:08]
thestringpuller	how will the underprivilaged be able to live without socialism?	[20:08]
BingoBoingo	OMG Under 200 Life nao!!! https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/	[20:08]
assbot	War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	wow what a blowout	[20:09]
*	JonathanVaage has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	incredible.	[20:09]
BingoBoingo	Irony is it seems some of the most damaging things to life's cause were... Life Bombs	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	funny how that works huh	[20:10]
mike_c	that is the biggest domination i have ever seen, and i've watched a lot of these.	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	just like irl!	[20:10]
benkay	i do not understand this thing that you've done, mike_c .	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	mike_c i was thinking, i didn't even know this shit was possible.	[20:10]
*	Namworld has quit (Excess Flood)	[20:10]
*	JonathanVaage (~jonvaage@108-78-172-71.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:10]
mike_c	benkay: it is a secret plot to give bingo all the ATC	[20:11]
jurov	mike_c i don't like how it shows trending behavior from start to finish on most of the games	[20:13]
benkay	ugh open markets are about as stochastically bouncy a thing as i want my money anywhere near	[20:13]
mike_c	jurov: your most is a very small sample size	[20:13]
jurov	ic	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	benkay this has the advantage that it's a provably fair stochastic process.	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	markets do not have that.	[20:14]
*	jonvaage has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	you try to ensure it by calling them "open", but alas...	[20:14]
*	JonathanVaage has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[20:15]
benkay	yeah but in the open market i can say things like 'o hey mpoe will probably be worth quite a bit in the future." and play based on that.	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	right. specifically because it's not provably fair :)	[20:15]
benkay	i like my edges, and i like them sharp.	[20:16]
BingoBoingo	benkay: In that case your chance to buy is before the game starts	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	much like bitbet, there's ways to have edges here too. mostly on the vol/vol angle i guess	[20:17]
*	Namworld (~Namworld@modemcable041.115-177-173.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:18]
*	Namworld has quit (Excess Flood)	[20:18]
*	Namworld (~Namworld@modemcable041.115-177-173.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:18]
benkay	i'm not an oddsmaker, guys. i make like one trade every six months and sit the fuck on top of it.	[20:18]
*	kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	we could say you trade like a girl ?	[20:19]
benkay	well, that'd be one trade every ten months :D	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:19]
benkay	and besides i don't 'trade'.	[20:19]
benkay	Mr. Market, etc.	[20:20]
*	asciilifeform 'Mr. Market' << imagines a webtv-like konsoomer appliance for idiots to 'trade' on	[20:24]
*	asciilifeform surprised the various chumpatronic engineers who push 'amazing! web based stock trading' crud haven't come out with one yet	[20:25]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[20:25]
benkay	if i read the parable correctly, Mr. Market is the idiots en aggregate.	[20:25]
kakobrekla	just you wait ascii.	[20:26]
asciilifeform	it'll ship some time after the u.s. gov.-issued, mandatory hardware btc wallet.	[20:26]
*	Tiraspol has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[20:27]
asciilifeform	'supports FaceCoin, TaxCoin, and even Bitcoin! (TaxCoin surcharge applies to all transactions, see manual.)'	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	actually i'm kind-of surprised nobody has yet made a bitcoind/bitcoin-qt which takes a few out of every tx and sends it to author.	[20:30]
mircea_popescu	trivial change to make.	[20:30]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: nobody << not exactly. i have a proof-of-concept patch for the winblows client that does this.	[20:30]
asciilifeform	(100% though. does that count?)	[20:31]
BingoBoingo	The multibit authors are explicitly moving to this model now	[20:31]
mike_c	call it the tx fee in the UI, and don't actually pay tx fee (or reduced fee). difference goes to author.	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform shouldn't be 100%, should be more like w/e vat is	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	mike_c no, call it tax in the ui.	[20:31]
*	Tiraspol (Tiraspol3@unaffiliated/tiraspol) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	difference goes to having "duly authorised" badge to show.	[20:31]
asciilifeform	100% is the correct winblows tax rate.	[20:31]
*	davout has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[20:32]
mircea_popescu	On the steep drop in GDP growth of a paltry .1% in the first quarter, Dr. Roberts says, “What I find most amusing about this is they had to claim some real growth in the first quarter; so, they eked out .1%. Now we know they got that by rigging the inflation number they used to deflate the gross domestic product (GDP). The real GDP in the first quarter, properly deflated, was negative and probably also in the fourt	[20:32]
mircea_popescu	h quarter. Most likely, this coming quarter, they are not going to be able to hide the fact that it is negative. . . . I am convinced the first quarter was negative, and I don’t see how it could possibly go positive in the second quarter.”	[20:32]
mircea_popescu	where did all the guys that used to argue with me about the fakeness of usg published figures go!	[20:32]
mircea_popescu	it's so lonely nao.	[20:32]
asciilifeform	at some point people lose interest - how many people cared about soviet stats ?	[20:32]
*	davout (~davout@unaffiliated/davout) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:32]
*	kermit has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[20:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11646 @ 0.00081916 = 9.5399 BTC [-]	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	On the Ukraine crisis, Dr. Roberts says, “I think Washington badly miscalculated this whole Ukraine business. It was an act of hubris, arrogance and stupidity. They are mad at Russia for blocking their attack on Syria and blocking their attack on Iran. They said ‘we’ll teach them.’ We’ll give them trouble in their own backyard and not to get in our way anymore.” The threat of sanctions has made the Russ	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	ians realize the dollar system is not in their interest, and they are going to leave it. . . . If any significant part of the world stops using the dollar, the price of the dollar falls because demand for dollars falls, and the import cost for America would rise. When you see how import dependent we are, it would mean a substantial rise in the real cost of living for most Americans.”	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	this paul craig roberts guy gets it somehow.	[20:34]
asciilifeform	'But actually, he thought as he re-adjusted the Ministry of Plenty's figures, it was not even forgery. It was merely the substitution of one piece of nonsense for another. Most of the material that you were dealing with had no connexion with anything in the real world, not even the kind of connexion that is contained in a direct lie. Statistics were just as much a fantasy in their original version as in their re	[20:34]
asciilifeform	ctified version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make them up out of your head. For example, the Ministry of Plenty's forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at 145 million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been	[20:34]
asciilifeform	overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.'	[20:34]
asciilifeform	('1984' obviously)	[20:34]
*	kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:34]
*	HeySteve has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/donate/	[20:35]
assbot	Donate - PaulCraigRoberts.org	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	look at that shit eh.	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/contact/ << people need to get fucking rid of contact forms.	[20:35]
assbot	Contact - PaulCraigRoberts.org	[20:35]
benkay	why isn't he running ads?	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea how could one be more offensively impolite than making a contact page and then putting in a form.	[20:36]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: spam control.	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	spam control that manages to offend me has failed.	[20:36]
mike_c	um, do you find it offensive if the form is just an option? alongside other contact info?	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	no.	[20:38]
*	statdude (~statdude@66-87-127-11.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:41]
*	chax (~chax@67.142.235.252) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:41]
pankkake	forms suck, because there are standard tools to write to people and you can't use them	[20:43]
BingoBoingo	^ this	[20:43]
pankkake	and you won't have a copy of your sent message in your email client, etc.	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	that ^	[20:44]
*	Tiraspol has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[20:44]
*	Tiraspol (Tiraspol3@unaffiliated/tiraspol) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:45]
mike_c	and yet can be a convience in some situations. which is why i like having multiple options.	[20:45]
mike_c	convenience	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	nobody's offended at plurality you know ?	[20:45]
mike_c	some people are anti-choice :)	[20:46]
*	Dalrymple (5e0a340e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.10.52.14) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:46]
*	miaoux has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	lol good one	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	!up Dalrymple	[20:47]
*	chax has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[20:47]
-assbot-	You voiced Dalrymple for 30 minutes.	[20:47]
*	assbot gives voice to Dalrymple	[20:47]
*	statdude has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[20:47]
*	chax (~chax@67.142.235.252) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:48]
Dalrymple	Good evening Gentlemen	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	heya.	[20:48]
Dalrymple	Just stumbled over your blog today and thought I'd say hello here	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	so today being a week since S.WOL floated, mike and i each got 2`250`000 shares deposited.	[20:48]
asciilifeform	Dalrymple: fan of the actual Dalrymple ? or the man himself	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	well hello here.	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	ima brb in a few mins.	[20:49]
Dalrymple	Just a fan	[20:49]
asciilifeform	;;google theodore dalrymple	[20:49]
gribble	Theodore Dalrymple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Skeptical Doctor \| Dedicated to the work of Theodore Dalrymple: ; Theodore Dalrymple - City Journal:	[20:49]
asciilifeform	^ for the uninitiated	[20:49]
Dalrymple	The man himself prefers antique books to computers	[20:49]
Dalrymple	I've been doing some research and am considering buying a coin since it seems from what I have read the price is due to go up soon	[20:50]
Dalrymple	I am totally new to this but it seems like a pretty secure investment	[20:51]
benkay	nobody in here's going to argue that btc are a bad buy, even at 5k/each.	[20:51]
benkay	unless wave hands market conditions.	[20:51]
Dalrymple	I can buy at £338	[20:52]
asciilifeform	Dalrymple: so long as you don't expect the exchange rate to increase monotonically - sure, buy.	[20:53]
benkay	;;ticker --currency gbp	[20:54]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCGBP ticker \| Best bid: 375.78431, Best ask: 376.5597, Bid-ask spread: 0.77539, Last trade: 376.61217, 24 hour volume: 4477.02275443, 24 hour low: 373.703, 24 hour high: 383.75392, 24 hour vwap: 378.413376961	[20:54]
benkay	sounds like a good deal, Dalrymple - what's your outlet?	[20:54]
Dalrymple	bitbargian.co.uk	[20:55]
benkay	fascinating.	[20:57]
*	davout_ (~davout@unaffiliated/davout) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:58]
mike_c	;;google site:www.thedrinkingrecord.com counterparty risk	[20:58]
gribble	A Reminder – The Most Important Word in Bitcoin, Again because Gox: ; Anti-Bitcoin "Bitcoin Apps" Part 3: Gliph in particular (Updated ...: ; Why Fractional Reserve Can't Work in (1 more message)	[20:58]
Dalrymple	It's funny actually, I have capital to spare on something like this due to finally receiving unpaid wages from my last job. I was working in a computer repair shop -	[20:58]
Dalrymple	The boss was a disgusting she-prole who I later learned is a drug dealer, she was trying to get me in on it - ordering LCD panels from China to use on indoor maurijuana crops	[20:59]
asciilifeform	lcd panels ?!	[21:00]
asciilifeform	for lighting?	[21:00]
Dalrymple	Lol - sorry LED	[21:00]
benkay	http://www.thetwoweeker.com/blog/	[21:00]
assbot	Blog The Two Weeker	[21:00]
Dalrymple	She was trying to get me in on it without initially revealing what the panels were for, luckily I left before I got involved	[21:00]
*	davout has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[21:01]
*	HeySteve (HeySteve@41-133-186-50.dsl.mweb.co.za) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:02]
*	HeySteve has quit (Changing host)	[21:02]
*	HeySteve (HeySteve@unaffiliated/heysteve) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:02]
*	assbot gives voice to dignork	[21:03]
benkay	http://redsymbol.net/articles/does-it-take-money-to-make-money/	[21:07]
assbot	Does it take money to make money?	[21:07]
benkay	http://www.itex.com/	[21:08]
assbot	ITEX - a small business community and barter network	[21:08]
benkay	https://www.bizx.com/	[21:08]
assbot	BizX	[21:08]
benkay	SPAMZOR THURSDAY	[21:08]
benkay	where's ninjashogun when you really need to make a point...	[21:08]
Dalrymple	Thanks, that site was the first one I came across, so obviously I will have a proper look around for verified sites before I buy anything	[21:10]
benkay	you might try...cash.	[21:10]
*	kermit has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[21:10]
ThickAsThieves	now GS is recommending post-earnings Calls	[21:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7222 @ 0.00081563 = 5.8905 BTC [-]	[21:11]
ThickAsThieves	for NFLX*	[21:12]
ThickAsThieves	niggas wont let up	[21:12]
Dalrymple	Thanks dignork, that would be appreciated	[21:13]
*	blackwhite has quit (Quit: blackwhite)	[21:15]
benkay	http://pamelaclark.tumblr.com/post/87113711124/35-practical-tools-for-men-to-further-feminist	[21:16]
assbot	Pamela Clark - 35 Practical Tools for Men to Further Feminist Revolution	[21:16]
benkay	Do 50% (or more) of housework. // or pay for it to get done?	[21:16]
benkay	Do 50% (or more) of emotional support work in your intimate relationships and friendships. // except i don't have emotions	[21:16]
benkay	When a woman tells you something is sexist, believe her.	[21:17]
benkay	// don't ask for clarification, or other difficult questions. that's sexist.	[21:17]
*	assbot removes voice from Dalrymple	[21:17]
pankkake	!up Dalrymple	[21:18]
*	assbot gives voice to Dalrymple	[21:18]
ThickAsThieves	If she is “nagging,” you are probably lagging.	[21:19]
ThickAsThieves	Inject feminism into your daily conversations with other men.	[21:20]
ThickAsThieves	gj benkay!	[21:20]
Dalrymple	Yet if a man acted like this the feminists would accuse him of "mansplaining", which proves that they are capable of irritating portmanteaus but oblivious to their own hypocrisy	[21:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00081563 = 6.4843 BTC [-]	[21:23]
chetty	omg would you guys stop with the feminist garbage! just shot them all and get done with it	[21:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.20199991 = 1.01 BTC [-] {2}	[21:25]
ThickAsThieves	plenty holes as is!	[21:25]
chetty	jajajaja	[21:25]
Dalrymple	Gunshot wounds do not a competent sandwich maker make	[21:25]
kakobrekla	The boss was a disgusting she-prole who I later learned is a drug dealer, she was trying to get me in on it - ordering LCD panels from China < you can get addicted to ordering panels from china!?	[21:26]
*	kakobrekla will never visit ebay again.	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	prole drug dealer ?!	[21:26]
Dalrymple	She's using the led panels to grow weed	[21:26]
kakobrekla	yes yes but where is the addiction part	[21:26]
kakobrekla	without addiction selling drugs is meh	[21:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00081563 = 15.6601 BTC [-]	[21:28]
ThickAsThieves	will you settle for habit-forming?	[21:28]
Dalrymple	Weed has a high profit margin, which probably increases in proportion to the crapness of tv and the sugar content of junk food	[21:28]
kakobrekla	lol tat, not much to go on.	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	you can actually grow weed by lcd panels ?	[21:30]
benkay	led panels, mircea_popescu	[21:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19304 @ 0.00081479 = 15.7287 BTC [-] {3}	[21:30]
*	kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:30]
kakobrekla	well yes you can	[21:30]
ThickAsThieves	10 Examples of Decentralized Art	[21:30]
kakobrekla	but its gonna be shit.	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	o nm my bad	[21:30]
kakobrekla	(i do NOT mean the hashish)	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	led to avoiud the high energy consumption police screen for sort of thing ?	[21:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03699 = 0.7398 BTC [-]	[21:31]
Dalrymple	Yep	[21:31]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: heat.	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	that too	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	i thought they liked high heat/high humidity no ?	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	just spray water.	[21:31]
asciilifeform	u.s. police were officially forbidden from using thermovisors, but afaik still do (why the hell not)	[21:32]
Dalrymple	I think she might have been selling some of the panels too	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	im pretty sure utilities are required to report the top 5% iirc it was consumers in dormitory neighbourhoods.	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	so why bother with thermovisors	[21:33]
asciilifeform	;;google bitcoin miner marijuana	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	might as well forbid them "for privacy"	[21:33]
gribble	Report: Police Confuse Bitcoin Miner's Power Use for Growing Weed: ; Bitcoin miners busted? Police confuse bitcoin power usage for pot ...: ; Why Would Police Confuse (1 more message)	[21:33]
kakobrekla	easy workaround is to steal power. it goes unnoticed in urban areas.	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla stolen and dependable. pick three.	[21:33]
Dalrymple	In the UK a lot of people are caught due to stealing power	[21:33]
kakobrekla	i know for a fact that they lose megawatts in the air here	[21:34]
kakobrekla	and they dont give fuck for losing a few kw	[21:34]
Dalrymple	It's not something I'd ever want to do, and the people who do it often get violently extorted if they aren't caught by the police	[21:34]
Dalrymple	I met one person who would look for gullibles and offer to loan them some equipment and oversee their grow, it meant he'd get a cut and it wouldn't take place on his property, also he knew the connects to sell it in bulk	[21:35]
chetty	we all have different ideas on which laws are worth breaking	[21:35]
kakobrekla	different things work in different places	[21:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 190 @ 0.03306369 = 6.2821 BTC [-] {14}	[21:36]
ThickAsThieves	Dalrymple obv a dealer	[21:36]
Dalrymple	Lol	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	oh nice can i play ?	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	different phone numbers have different amounts in them	[21:36]
kakobrekla	go 500km south of here, you can bribe any cop for anything	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	;;google where is 500km south of somalia	[21:37]
gribble	Clashes at a Somali border town leaves 10 dead - News ...: ; 10 killed in Somali border clashes - News - africareview.com: ; December \| 2013 \| (1 more message)	[21:37]
kakobrekla	here, noone dares.	[21:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03513656 = 0.527 BTC [+] {3}	[21:37]
ThickAsThieves	500m south is ocean, no?	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	oh, ocean cops ? i hear bad things about their sirens.	[21:37]
*	Sebastan (~Sebastian@95-91-245-214-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:37]
kakobrekla	meh fuck you trolls.	[21:38]
ThickAsThieves	ah, i see, it's madagascar	[21:38]
ThickAsThieves	til	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	where is that sketch	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejGQ5oIuP9c	[21:38]
assbot	Monty Python - Airplane Hijack - YouTube	[21:38]
ThickAsThieves	did they ever find that Malaysian plane?	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	yeah. it was hidden in neobee's real world brick and mortar airplane warehouse	[21:41]
ThickAsThieves	zeroblock made a random neo tweet today	[21:42]
ThickAsThieves	https://twitter.com/zeroblock/status/484725454343913472	[21:43]
assbot	Danny Brewster (NEO&BEE) rumored to be in Larnaca, Greece by post office worker https://t.co/bos2fyOzAM	[21:43]
ThickAsThieves	points to forum, some dude saying he got Danny's Gox Bankruptcy mail	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	interesting.	[21:44]
punkman	Larnaca is in Cyprus	[21:45]
ThickAsThieves	yep	[21:45]
ThickAsThieves	it's where the airport is	[21:45]
asciilifeform	from the loltron: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/expropriation-back-christine-lagarde-most-dangerous-woman-world	[21:45]
assbot	Expropriation Is Back - Is Christine Lagarde The Most Dangerous Woman In The World? \| Zero Hedge	[21:45]
*	CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ykkzwhuxxlbfvtil) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00081655 = 8.2472 BTC [+] {2}	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	i wasn't aware it had ever left.	[21:47]
*	assbot removes voice from Dalrymple	[21:48]
benkay	!up Dalrymple	[21:48]
*	assbot gives voice to Dalrymple	[21:48]
*	mius (~mius@gateway/tor-sasl/mius) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2011/vizualizarea-datelor-market-depth-pentru-bitcoini/	[21:51]
assbot	Vizualizarea datelor : Market depth pentru bitcoini pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	this 2011 article has like... 2011 prices in it :D	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	still the best mkt depth visualisation there is imo	[21:52]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[21:58]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[21:58]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014	[21:58]
-assbot-	Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass.	[21:58]
benkay	also this: http://www.revolutionary-war.net/image-files/deic-logo.png	[21:58]
*	Swadq (~Swadq@cpc14-wake8-2-0-cust729.17-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:00]
*	Skirmant_ (~Skirmant@gateway/tor-sasl/skirmant) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:01]
*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	wassat ?	[22:01]
*	Skirmant_ is now known as Skirmant	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	o nm.	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	get it in gold ink!	[22:01]
benkay	my skin's not dark enough for that to look at all good	[22:02]
benkay	i am a swarthy boy, but not actually black.	[22:02]
benkay	actually i'm not even swarthy.	[22:02]
benkay	just well-tanned.	[22:03]
benkay	"In short, Italian men are swarthy. And when someone says that, it's usually not with a shudder, but a shiver.	[22:03]
benkay	"	[22:03]
benkay	oh, babes.	[22:03]
mircea_popescu	so get a black guy and get the tattoo on him.	[22:03]
benkay	http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=462574	[22:03]
assbot	Swarthy: offensive or not? - WordReference Forums	[22:03]
benkay	hey thestringpuller lets get you inked	[22:03]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller is black ?!	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	"We American women think of the swarthy type as a dark-skinned (not black), exotic, intense type of man."	[22:05]
benkay	probably doing pomodoros, ping him louder	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	dude lmao. "we american women" ? who's this lol	[22:05]
benkay	hello_this_is_dog.png	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	more like this-is-retarded-bitch-hour	[22:07]
kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637928.msg7661602#msg7661602	[22:07]
assbot	Evaluating Havelock securities performances	[22:07]
kakobrekla	gold.	[22:07]
kakobrekla	>(gold, real estate, bread, hookers, all would be better measures of value over time than Bitcoin)	[22:08]
kakobrekla	because hookers cant be printed.	[22:08]
kakobrekla	(not yet, at least)	[22:09]
asciilifeform	hookerchain prevents this.	[22:09]
kakobrekla	lol	[22:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00081421 = 11.2768 BTC [-] {2}	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	so "the community" of bagholders posing as bitcoin people is getting vocal ?	[22:14]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-may-2014-and-july-2014-combined-statement/	[22:14]
benkay	sales fee creeping up on account fee.	[22:15]
mike_c	uh	[22:16]
mike_c	"may and july" -> "may and june"?	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	drat	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	your creative accounting	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	You mean the same accounting that is used by every single financial regulatory agency in the world?	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	lmao that fuckwit seriously has the gall to argue4 that stealing people's bitcoins over time is okay ?	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	;;rated ognasty	[22:18]
gribble	You rated user ognasty on Fri Jun 13 17:07:59 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: pirate shill ; currently running a security that made a 60% loss over two years. a fine example of the scum that unwarrantedly imagines itself somehow part of Bitcoin..	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	mkay.	[22:19]
*	darlidada (~Decima`@unaffiliated/decima/x-7503346) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:19]
*	assbot removes voice from Dalrymple	[22:19]
asciilifeform	!up Dalrymple	[22:20]
*	assbot gives voice to Dalrymple	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	Blazedout419 in case you're still looking for that, http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/	[22:20]
assbot	MPEx : one year of dividends pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	it's about a year out of date by now, if you're looking for something to do	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	more generally i suppose it being springish again, it's time to revisit last year for the new crop of noobs :	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/	[22:21]
assbot	The best investments in the history of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[22:21]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-may-2014-and-june-2014-combined-statement/	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	and perhaps also http://trilema.com/2013/the-list-of-discontinued-assets-on-mpex/	[22:22]
assbot	The list of discontinued assets on MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[22:22]
*	Clue has quit ()	[22:22]
*	Clue (~cryptotra@198-178-127-17.static.hvvc.us) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:24]
*	assbot gives voice to davout_	[22:25]
*	Clue is now known as crypto_trader	[22:25]
kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637928.msg7662458#msg7662458	[22:25]
*	crypto_trader has quit (Client Quit)	[22:25]
assbot	Evaluating Havelock securities performances	[22:25]
*	crypto_trader (~cryptotra@198-178-127-17.static.hvvc.us) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla whay so angry	[22:26]
*	Swadq has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)	[22:26]
kakobrekla	you dont know angry.	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[22:27]
mike_c	bitstamp is awesome	[22:27]
mike_c	(is he angry yet?)	[22:27]
kakobrekla	yes troll sensor also working	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	Also, newsflash, I can call this rock that I am about to throw a 'club', yet it wont feel like one when it hits your face.	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	this was kinda lulzy	[22:27]
davout_	bitstamp slovenians are best slovenians	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	mostly cause of the club ambiguity	[22:28]
*	davout_ is now known as davout	[22:28]
*	kakobrekla (~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla) has left #bitcoin-assets ("Leaving")	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	davout i hear nigeria beat you froggers in the wc	[22:28]
davout	apparently you're not paying your intel dept enough	[22:29]
*	Swadq (~Swadq@92.40.249.33.threembb.co.uk) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	drat.	[22:30]
davout	;;ud drat	[22:32]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=drat \| Apple touch icon Download the Free App! 1. drat. What cute people say when they are pissed off. "Oh Drat i lost my wallet". by spanky spangler September 07, ...	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	davout bet you the krautzes send france home ?	[22:33]
davout	the internet sez you're a cutie!	[22:33]
*	punkman1 (~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:33]
davout	1 btc	[22:34]
davout	but not on bitbet	[22:34]
davout	their support sucks	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	yeah on bitbet lol. putting it in nao.	[22:34]
davout	i'm not paying 1% for a private bet between you and me	[22:35]
*	punkman has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	but it's open.	[22:35]
davout	i hear they send winners spider drawings instead of money	[22:36]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha	[22:36]
mircea_popescu	should try thias	[22:36]
*	crypto_t_ (~cryptotra@66.55.144.250) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:40]
*	punkman (~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:41]
*	crypto_t_ is now known as crypto_trader_	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	davout http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/	[22:41]
assbot	BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 1 B (100%) on Yes, 0 B (0%) on No \| closing in 1 day 4 hours \| weight: 99`949 (100`000 to 1)	[22:41]
*	crypto_trader_ has quit (Client Quit)	[22:41]
*	cryptoflood (~cryptoflo@71-84-46-68.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:42]
*	crypto_t_ (~cryptotra@66.55.144.250) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:42]
*	crypto_t_ is now known as crypto_trader_	[22:42]
*	HeySteve has quit ()	[22:42]
davout	mircea_popescu: "pankkake but whatever he thought then, right ? i mean suppose a girl invites him over and he THINKS it's for to fuck." <<< if you reason like this, then you should rename it to bitchbet	[22:43]
*	punkman1 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[22:43]
Mats_cd03	benkay: everyone i know with the coiled rattlesnake and/or 'don't tread on me' is ex mil	[22:43]
*	crypto_trader has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[22:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00081366 = 3.0512 BTC [-] {2}	[22:44]
mircea_popescu	davout how you mean ?	[22:44]
*	HeySteve (~DinoSaw@unaffiliated/heysteve) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:45]
davout	if you argue that the resolution of bitbets can afford lack of clarity by comparing it to the way the woman of your example lacks clarity you should go all the way	[22:45]
davout	but then there's also the question of "where does the lack of clarity stop, and the guy's expectations start"	[22:46]
*	HeySteve has quit (Client Quit)	[22:46]
mike_c	what clarity is missing? when the bet will resolve? obviously it will resolve when the price is known. if it becomes clear the price will never be known, BB mods will do something appropriate.	[22:50]
*	assbot removes voice from Dalrymple	[22:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00081748 = 15.0008 BTC [+]	[22:50]
mircea_popescu	mike has it.	[22:50]
pankkake	I think davout refers to another bet	[22:50]
mike_c	doesn't help to add a 10 page rider to every bet	[22:50]
pankkake	i.e. what if buttcoin-central is renamed to gaymium	[22:51]
*	crypto_trader_ has quit ()	[22:51]
pankkake	another bitcoin-qt segfault. gotta learn to not click on it too soon	[22:51]
*	crypto_trader (~cryptotra@66.55.144.250) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:52]
davout	i think my broader point is that since you don't know what you don't know, it makes sense to define a way to clarify propositions along the way, lest you end up with some rota v2	[22:52]
davout	you cannot perfectly specify a bet, no matter how many pages of specs you write	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	davout sure. but how does that help the arguer's position ?	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	you can't argue from your expectation, gotta argue from reality.	[22:53]
*	Swadq has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)	[22:53]
davout	the guy that was requesting support ?	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	well no, the guy that was requesting the bet be cancelled.	[22:55]
davout	ah	[22:55]
*	cryptoflood has quit (Quit: Cya Suckka!)	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	he briefly masqueraded as requesting support originally i guess.	[22:56]
davout	i think that a reasonable case can be made for cancellation	[22:56]
*	Swadq (~Swadq@92.40.249.33.threembb.co.uk) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	no case will ever be successfully made for cancellation as long as a legitimate dispute exists.	[22:57]
davout	based on the fact that you have no reliable source for the auction price	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	that'd have been a good case for not betting.	[22:57]
davout	what do you mean ?	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	exactly what i say ?! what part ?	[22:57]
*	jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[22:58]
davout	sure, that's why i didn't bet :-)	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	right.	[22:58]
davout	"no case will ever be successfully made for cancellation as long as a legitimate dispute exists."	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	that as long as there's a dispute, a bet doesn't get cancelled.	[22:58]
davout	what's a legitimate dispute ?	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	like, people not agreeing.	[22:58]
davout	a dispute about the auction price being >x or	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	if you got a group saying "the sea is blue" and another "the sky is azure" this isn't a legitimate dispute. they're not talking of the same thing.	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	if one group is like "sea is deep" and the other "no, it's salty" idem	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	but if they don't agree if it's salty or sweet, the bet as to which is is ain't getting cancelled.	[22:59]
*	assbot gives voice to jborkl	[22:59]
*	saulimus has quit (Quit: saulimus)	[23:00]
davout	what if the bet mod realizes he has no way to measure salinity N	[23:00]
davout	?	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	mthreat http://bitbet.us/bet/988/argentina-beats-belgium/ btw	[23:00]
assbot	BitBet - Argentina beats Belgium :: 10.06 B (100%) on Yes, 0 B (0%) on No \| closing in 2 days 3 hours \| weight: 99`770 (100`000 to 10`000)	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	davout best effort is best effort.	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	that's not a realisation the mod can ever reach.	[23:01]
jborkl	building the database, the block chain will be searchable by txid, txcount by block, address, amount and UNIX	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	should he discover salinity doesn't exist, then it gets cancelled.	[23:01]
jborkl	http://www.bcoinnews.com/printinfo.php	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	but it seems quite certain a price was in fact paid, currently.	[23:01]
*	crypto_trader has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[23:03]
davout	mircea_popescu: well, what if he genuinely realizes it wasn't correct to assume he'd ever be able to measure salinity? whether he has the certainty that salinity > 0 being irrelevant given the bet conditions	[23:03]
davout	as in, a price has been paid	[23:03]
davout	:-)	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	not his place to realise such a thing.	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	there's no way out of history. what's done is done.	[23:04]
*	mikaeldice (~mikaeldic@unaffiliated/mikaeldice) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:04]
pankkake	http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/03/1846215/nsa-considers-linux-journal-readers-tor-and-linux-users-extremists	[23:05]
assbot	NSA Considers Linux Journal Readers, Tor (And Linux?) Users "Extremists" - Slashdot	[23:05]
Naphex	pankkake: no wonder	[23:05]
davout	mircea_popescu: not sure what you mean	[23:05]
Naphex	most people in those categories are concerned about privacy	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	that's ok, i consider nsa employees child molesters. they're going to jail.	[23:05]
Naphex	from their PoV anyone who gives a shit about privacy will be an extremist	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	davout you know what makes a good error message ?	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	cause this "general failure" thing doesn't halp.	[23:05]
Naphex	General Failure 321	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	a ty	[23:06]
davout	fair enough :-) i'm thinking that "not his place to realise such a thing." is side-stepping the issue, and also not	[23:07]
davout	backed	[23:07]
davout	i mean why? say i'm making this bet about this music note being this or that, and poof, i become deaf	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	but you understand the general principle of limited review ? such that a judge isn't at liberty to vacate the law for instance.	[23:08]
*	zoinky has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	the guy you hire to do your plumbing isn't allowed to recommend you buy a different house	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	army captain ordered to hold a position isn't allowed to change the regimental deployment	[23:09]
Mats_cd03	so youŕe saying bitbet needs a jury	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	random fuckwit that can't afford a 400 dollar swimsuit isn't free to "change the way society regards women"	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	and so on	[23:09]
davout	yes, the guy who does the plumbing can perfectly throw his hands in the air, refund you, and tell you that in fact he doesn't do lead pipes	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	Mats_cd03 kinda what the mods are.	[23:09]
Mats_cd03	a jury that can nullify judgments then	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	davout so a mod can quit bitbet.	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	what's that change.	[23:10]
davout	no, that would translate to quit being a plumber, not refuse to serve a particular client because you don't have the correct tools or qualifications	[23:11]
*	crypto_t_ (~cryptotra@216.155.131.74) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	the plumber quitting his plumbing has zero impact. the plumbing company wil still do the plumbing.	[23:11]
pankkake	%diff	[23:11]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 785138.67 in 2013 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: 0.00	[23:11]
chetty	ah but that would be like refusing to bake a gay wedding cake, not allowed	[23:12]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[23:12]
*	crypto_t_ has quit (Client Quit)	[23:12]
mircea_popescu	or like a computer refusing to multiply anything by 548791114	[23:12]
davout	chetty mircea_popescu no because if you do only plastic pipes you can't be forced to install lead pipes	[23:12]
mircea_popescu	also not allowed.	[23:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00081256 = 2.5596 BTC [-]	[23:12]
*	crypto_t_ (~cryptotra@216.155.131.74) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:12]
*	crypto_t_ is now known as crypto_trader_	[23:14]
*	crypto_trader_ has quit (Client Quit)	[23:14]
*	crypto_t_ (~cryptotra@216.155.131.74) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:15]
*	OneFixt has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)	[23:15]
*	daybyter (~andreas@88-134-90-244-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:15]
davout	i think that in essence, bitbet and the rota have a lot in common	[23:15]
*	crypto_t_ is now known as crypto_trader_	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	this is not news :)	[23:16]
mircea_popescu	i think i even said as much in the logs, months ago	[23:16]
*	crypto_trader_ is now known as crypto_trader	[23:17]
*	OneFixt (~OneFixt@unaffiliated/onefixt) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:17]
davout	mircea_popescu: yeah well, i haven't ordered the ba logs paperback yet :-)	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	:p	[23:18]
*	assbot gives voice to cgcardona	[23:18]
davout	but i spent some time thinking about this while driving	[23:18]
davout	so, how does it manage to avoid the shortcomings of the rota?	[23:18]
cgcardona	o/ hello #bitcoin-assets	[23:18]
davout	because basically, there's the "evaluate outcome according to environment and bet specs" part of bitbet	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	davout anon mods deliberating in secret. exact opposite of the "citizenship judge" rota model	[23:19]
davout	but there's also the "make a sovereign decision about the resolution conditions uncertainty that came to light after acceptation but before resoltuion"	[23:20]
davout	how's secrecy adding anything here ?	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea.	[23:21]
mike_c	rota did not need to decide things for the good of rota. bitbet has a vested interest in making good decisions.	[23:21]
Apocalyptic	kinda reminds me of the venetian rulers	[23:21]
davout	mike_c: true	[23:22]
mircea_popescu	this is a good point yeah	[23:22]
davout	mircea_popescu: so the advantage of secrecy is undecided	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	im just saying it's opposite.	[23:23]
davout	no, you also said you had no idea about how it was an improvement :-)	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	well yes.	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	how is it an improvement is some sort of forward or inside looking statement. i dunno.	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	suppose there's an apple tree and a potato. now, you ask me how is a pomme better than a pomme du terre. nfi man, i just know they're opposite.	[23:25]
davout	ok, so basically makes no sense to sort them	[23:26]
mircea_popescu	what's sort mean and who's them.	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	and hello cgcardona	[23:28]
davout	i mean it makes no sense to try and decide whether secrecy is a better model than non-secrecy	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	mike_c i suspect that's perhaps stretching a point. rota judges did make a salary, and had a deeply vested interest in making th emodel work.	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	they failed to understand it in practice, but this is because people are often lazy, and that's exactly how things like bitcoin can get killed in 2010.	[23:29]
Dalrymple	danielpbarron darlidada davidlatapie davout daybyter	[23:29]
mircea_popescu	davout not without a metric.	[23:29]
*	cgcardona tips hat to MP	[23:30]
davout	yo, pas de relation d'ordre	[23:30]
cgcardona	top of tha mornin sir	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	something like that	[23:30]
*	daybyter has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[23:34]
*	daybyter (~andreas@88-134-90-244-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	davout http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/#b4 that you ?	[23:38]
assbot	BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 1.06 B (88%) on Yes, 0.14 B (12%) on No \| closing in 1 day 3 hours \| weight: 96`594 (100`000 to 1)	[23:38]
thestringpuller	shots fired	[23:39]
*	Blazedout420 (~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:39]
FabianB	[]bot: you alive?	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	seems not	[23:41]
FabianB	artifexd: ?	[23:42]
davout	mircea_popescu: no	[23:42]
mircea_popescu	well ok, lem me know when you're in and ill cover to even odds	[23:42]
*	Blazedout419 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)	[23:43]
*	only (~only@gateway/tor-sasl/only) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:44]
*	navhul-lacsup has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[23:45]
davout	mircea_popescu: ok done	[23:46]
*	Ignatius-otc has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[23:46]
chetty	http://news.yahoo.com/could-strenuous-exercise-night-mean-better-sleep-211528590--spt.html	[23:46]
assbot	Could strenuous exercise at night mean better sleep? - Yahoo News	[23:46]
*	Ignatius-otc (~root@gateway/tor-sasl/ignatius-otc) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	eh what the heck, im so overconfident i just put another 1 btc. so there.	[23:47]
kyuupichan	mircea_popescu: Is the Bastille bet considered controversial? Or mods just got bored of resolving bets y/day?	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	kyuupichan i don't imagine it's controversial.	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	lemme see	[23:48]
kyuupichan	OK, boredom it is	[23:48]
chetty	Many people would rather inflict pain on themselves than spend 15 minutes in a room with nothing to do but think	[23:48]
mike_c	kyuupichan: what was this mystery mpex conversation you had with daniel?	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	Resolution: in 1 week 4 days (15-07-2014)	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	nothing controversial about it, but its date hasn't come yet.	[23:49]
kyuupichan	mircea_popescu: But it's already happened no? Other bets are resolved early if they happen.	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	it's "on" not "by"	[23:49]
kyuupichan	The explanatory text is clearly "by". "On or before".	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	o nm it's on or before.	[23:50]
benkay	http://dogebark.nijotz.com/	[23:50]
benkay	^^ dns barker	[23:50]
BingoBoingo	Omg someone is trying to unkill of of my death with bombs!!!	[23:50]
kyuupichan	The disconnect between the two is unfortunate	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	kyuupichan yeah prolly going out today.	[23:50]
kyuupichan	Thx	[23:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 72 @ 0.0172 = 1.2384 BTC [+]	[23:51]
davout	mircea_popescu: BUT WHAT IF THERE'S ANOTHER MATCH 58 FR vs DE IN THE WC OF SOME UNRELATED SPORT ??	[23:52]
mike_c	BingoBoingo: looks like somebody got into life real low.	[23:52]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: The irony is once again the bombs seem to be setting themselves up for failure	[23:53]
benkay	asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: where's the post detailing cardano rng construction?	[23:54]
kyuupichan	mike_c: Not sure I remember most of it. I'd rather it remained private though.	[23:54]
*	ThickAsThieves has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[23:54]
mike_c	kako can turn off the logger	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	davout tough	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	benkay in s.nsa somewhere	[23:55]
davout	yeah well, france would win both anyway	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	the only thing france wins is buttruining on pikes marathon	[23:58]
davout	i'm starting to suspect that this france vs germany bet is going to get bigger than the berkshire one	[23:58]
BingoBoingo	benkay: http://trilema.com/2013/the-reason-you-cant-have-nice-numbers-and-other-considerations/ ???	[23:59]
davout	:D	[23:59]
assbot	The reason you can’t have nice numbers and other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	well... not this one	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	but maybe if a real country was involved.	[23:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19999985 = 0.6 BTC [-] {2}	[23:59]

« Forum logs for 02 Jul 2014

Forum logs for 07 May 2015 »

Category: Logs

Comments feed : RSS 2.0. Leave your own comment below, or send a trackback.

Add your cents! »

If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed.

Forum logs for 03 Jul 2014

Recent Comments

Recent Articles

Pages

Say NO! to platforms