Forum logs for 02 Jan 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [01:13]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:55 2013 [01:13]
pankkake but you wouldn't invest all your fortune in bitcoin - this seems like a nice fiat investment [01:13]
pankkake not a get rich quick one, so again, I wonder where you're going to get btc people to invest :p [01:13]
Duffer1 my fiat is in bitcoin [01:14]
Duffer1 well was :P [01:14]
the20year Ukto and graet got $250k-$350k worth of bitcoins on their 12% loans [01:15]
the20year and anyone that paid attention realized they were cashing out to USD, and could never repay the BTC value [01:15]
pankkake no arguing about that. that was stupid [01:15]
mircea_popescu the20year you're not ukto and certainly not graet. [01:15]
the20year So, my question is whether or not I can attract people wanting a reasonable APY on a pretty secure, transparent invesment [01:15]
mircea_popescu in people can get financed for any stupidity they wish to do. out people can not, no matter anything. [01:16]
mircea_popescu the practical solutions are either to be upset or to strive to in yourself. [01:16]
pankkake "reasonable APY on a pretty secure, transparent invesment" => well, many people want that. but they are not bitcoiners :p [01:16]
mircea_popescu either can take a lifetime easily, either may just as well not deliver in the end. [01:16]
the20year Yeah, that's my concern pankkake [01:18]
pankkake so, why would people use bitcoins, and not fiat directly? [01:18]
the20year Bitcoin marketplace is so hot and easy to access, fiat is much more difficult for me [01:19]
the20year My cost to IPO via bitfunder and get ~$100k of investment was $500 [01:19]
the20year!*@* added to ignore list. [01:19]
mircea_popescu mkay, good enough. [01:20]
pankkake i agree [01:20]
pankkake though you now have the "unregistered security" added risk [01:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00092376 = 6.7434 BTC [+] [01:21]
pankkake I guess it also allows someone with mainly non-USD fiat to easily invest, too [01:22]
mircea_popescu Subject: #Notice of appearance in court Order 8389 [01:23]
mircea_popescu From: "Notice to Appear" [01:23]
mircea_popescu spammers are getting daring these days [01:23]
mircea_popescu "Hereby you are informed that you are due in the court of Houston on the 14 of January, 2014 at 10:00 am for the hearing of your case." [01:23]
Duffer1 sounds like an accurate "come visit Houston" commercial [01:25]
Duffer1 that's advertising, not spam [01:27]
mircea_popescu right, except it attaches the same dumbass windows-only zip file that's been hitting all the honeypots this past coupla months [01:28]
mircea_popescu some kid with a coupla grand decided he's gonna get himself rich online [01:28]
mircea_popescu with nothing but faith and this here old pair of underwear. [01:29]
Duffer1 that's travel itinerary [01:29]
truffles everyone with charm should have a crack at fiat :d [01:29]
Duffer1 it totally won't steal your wallet or anything [01:29]
mircea_popescu i'm with truffles (0.0) in that yeah [01:29]
truffles everyone isnt charming though, its a skill imo [01:30]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.000094 = 1.88 BTC [+] [01:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 225 @ 0.00306 = 0.6885 BTC [-] [01:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 250 @ 0.003 = 0.75 BTC [-] {3} [02:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0491 = 0.982 BTC [-] [02:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0491 = 0.2455 BTC [-] [02:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12966 @ 0.00092332 = 11.9718 BTC [-] [02:24]
FabianB lol https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/290 [02:27]
* mircea_popescu is almost afraid to look [02:29]
mircea_popescu herp [02:30]
mircea_popescu lol [02:30]
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FabianB hehe [02:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6961 @ 0.00092376 = 6.4303 BTC [+] [02:43]
mircea_popescu if indeed gavin's key accidentally expires with no back-ups... [02:46]
mircea_popescu seems pretty much where bitcoin is destined to go, really. [02:46]
mircea_popescu but for the benefit of all the noobies/forumers/etc that may get to read this : notice dear chitlins how it was the WoT that broke that request ? [02:47]
mircea_popescu meditate on this point. [02:47]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i like your new colors. [02:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.04901434 = 1.0293 BTC [-] {4} [02:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00092219 = 10.1441 BTC [-] {2} [02:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13824 @ 0.00091678 = 12.6736 BTC [-] {2} [02:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00090968 = 9.0968 BTC [-] [02:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [03:02]
ArsKisS hmm [03:04]
ArsKisS that ipo might even sell [03:04]
VanCleef nah [03:05]
ArsKisS 153k left [03:05]
ArsKisS anyway, I keep my money waiting for the drop :P [03:05]
VanCleef ya [03:06]
ArsKisS funny how so many ipos are so overvaluated [03:07]
ArsKisS Cannabit for teh lulz :D [03:07]
VanCleef well, when pulling off a bitcoin scam you gotta tkae as many coins as you can [03:08]
ArsKisS well.. scam is a bit rough word [03:09]
mircea_popescu in general ipos tend to be overvalued because people suffer from a "money on the table" issue. [03:11]
mircea_popescu such as, if my "company" may live 10 years and be worth 10 btc, then i'll be damned if i sell for less than 10 btc today [03:11]
mircea_popescu notwithstanding that no company to date lived 10 years. [03:11]
mircea_popescu and notwithstanding that the only ipo to date to make the owner actually rich (ie, mpoe) actually listed at two degrees of magnitude less than what it sells for. [03:12]
mircea_popescu this compounded of course by the fact that there's very few people with any sort of experience or ability in the field of bitcoin finance, and plenty of muppet venues available. [03:13]
VanCleef no bitcoin company is going ot last 10 years lol [03:15]
mircea_popescu wanna bet ? [03:15]
VanCleef yeah but lets not use bitbet its totally shit [03:15]
mircea_popescu aite, so what are we using ? [03:16]
pankkake define "last" [03:16]
VanCleef i'm not locking away btc for 10years on a bet [03:17]
mircea_popescu why not ? from experience, the people who did best in btc are those who locked it away. [03:18]
VanCleef you'll probably be in jail or dead by then [03:18]
VanCleef how will i get paid? [03:18]
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ArsKisS VanCleef, you actually wanna bet that none of bitcoin companies will live for 10 years? [03:19]
pankkake what if mpex is still online, but no one uses it? does that count? [03:19]
VanCleef no it doesn't count [03:20]
VanCleef noone is using it now [03:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3532 @ 0.0009147 = 3.2307 BTC [+] [03:20]
pankkake well [03:21]
mircea_popescu derp lol [03:21]
mircea_popescu i take your meaning tho, you will be in jail or dead within the decade, therefore the world doesn't exist and doesn't matter. [03:21]
mircea_popescu thanks for making it easy and everything. [03:21]
VanCleef lol [03:22]
pankkake do you have an exit plan to somalia? [03:22]
mircea_popescu getting back to the original point, if no company is making it for 10 years then no company has any business listing. [03:24]
mircea_popescu just like if nobody is actually cooking anything as complex as a pizza there's no need for italian pizza ovens [03:24]
VanCleef all the ones that are listed now wont be around in 10 years [03:24]
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VanCleef mostly talking about havelock here [03:25]
mircea_popescu VanCleef inasmuch as you limit the statement to "those venues all the forum idiots use", then you're prtobably right. [03:25]
VanCleef those too [03:25]
mircea_popescu tho statistically there's probably going to be one or two unlikely exceptions [03:25]
mircea_popescu that'll look totally obvious in retrospect [03:25]
VanCleef 10 years is a very long time in bitcoin world [03:25]
VanCleef that's like 100 years [03:26]
mircea_popescu only because "bitcoin world" as understood by muppets strictly consists of muppets, who have no intellectual ability to speak of, which limits their cognitive bubble rather severely. [03:26]
mircea_popescu but that aside, i know plenty of people with a decade or multi-decade outlook [03:26]
mircea_popescu course they're not "in" bitcoin according to... whatever, reddit. [03:27]
VanCleef do you mind naming one? [03:27]
VanCleef if its okey to share [03:27]
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mircea_popescu sure. take casares. or take vorhees. [03:28]
mircea_popescu plenty more people you should know about as they're public, caldwell, the russian pirate bet guy, [03:29]
mircea_popescu i won't name teh private, obviously, but i don't need to for this point either. [03:29]
VanCleef hmmm casares and vorhees hey, i'll have a look [03:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00090968 = 8.0962 BTC [-] [03:34]
mircea_popescu .d [03:40]
ozbot 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 2012 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.0600% in 11d 3h 52m 13s [03:40]
pankkake someone got miners for christmas [03:40]
mircea_popescu seems so [03:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [03:41]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1418481395/118092319 [03:42]
gribble 12.0116312984 [03:42]
mircea_popescu wat [03:42]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1418481395/1180923195 [03:42]
gribble 1.20116312475 [03:42]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1418481395 * 1.20116312475**2 [03:43]
gribble 2046574817.77 [03:43]
mircea_popescu ha! [03:43]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/ [03:43]
ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014 [03:43]
mircea_popescu 3.5:1 by now [03:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00091015 = 15.1995 BTC [+] [03:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 779 @ 0.0030002 = 2.3372 BTC [-] {8} [03:46]
mircea_popescu needs no more than 18.7% twice [03:46]
mircea_popescu or a 20 and a 17.49 [03:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3099998 BTC [+] [03:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7771 @ 0.0009147 = 7.1081 BTC [+] [04:14]
mircea_popescu ha! "people claim diamonds are forever, yet they're an absolute scam. the same people claim bitcoin is a scam, but really... bitcoin is forever." [04:18]
kakobreklaa ah people, last one you want to ask when you want to know about something, is people [04:19]
kakobreklaa here they say, you are "as hardworking as an ant" [04:19]
kakobreklaa yet they do not know 50% of ant workers pretend to be working their whole life [04:20]
the20year1 and bitcoins that are lost? [04:20]
the20year1 in unrecoverable wallets? [04:21]
kakobreklaa you cant proove its unrecoverable [04:21]
pankkake so ants are like humans? [04:22]
mircea_popescu it really makes very little difference whether anyone can or can't use the bitcoins. [04:22]
mircea_popescu they're there alright. [04:22]
kakobreklaa no i dont think ants are as humans, just humans are dumb [04:22]
pankkake in the sense that they pretend to be working [04:22]
kakobreklaa the ratio on htat with humans is prolly higher [04:22]
mircea_popescu it's not really dumb, for the ants. they didn't ask to be hatched there. [04:22]
mircea_popescu the problem with humans is that they ASK to join whatever shit they then don't help with [04:23]
mircea_popescu everyone applied & interviewed for the job they aren't doing. [04:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6214 @ 0.00091617 = 5.6931 BTC [+] {2} [04:24]
the20year1 Technically they're recoverable through brute force, however the resources to do that are immense [04:24]
truffles santa where are my presents! [04:25]
the20year1!*@* added to ignore list. [04:25]
kakobreklaa the20year but that goes true for lost and non lost coins [04:27]
truffles kako :( [04:27]
kakobreklaa what i didnt take your presents. [04:27]
truffles ure supposed to hand them out though [04:28]
kakobreklaa well, wheres the bag, wheres the list? [04:28]
kakobreklaa ahhh here is the list, tiber takes the top of naughy boys [04:28]
truffles is he the only person u banned? [04:29]
kakobreklaa dunno [04:29]
kakobreklaa prolly not [04:29]
truffles whyd u do it! [04:29]
kakobreklaa bribes [04:29]
truffles it could be ur good act for 2014, bring back tiber! [04:30]
truffles (forgot the spelling) [04:30]
kakobreklaa ok, guys, lets vote, type 1 for tib unban, or type 2 for truffles ban [04:31]
truffles nooo [04:31]
truffles evil [04:31]
kakobreklaa you gotta balance it somehow ya know [04:31]
truffles 1 [04:31]
truffles clearly the only active around :D [04:32]
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assbot 2 [04:32]
truffles omg [04:32]
truffles shortcuts [04:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00298988 = 1.4949 BTC [+] {5} [04:35]
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benkay both! [04:37]
truffles there goes that hater [04:37]
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benkay i maintain my own ignore file tho so it's not as if a t-ban's going to improve my life noticeably. [04:38]
benkay tiberius was amazing! [04:38]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [04:38]
benkay amazing troll. [04:38]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [04:38]
benkay shut up, assbot. [04:38]
Gotchawallet kakobreklaa thats a hard decision [04:38]
truffles to ignore is to show preference though [04:38]
truffles i have none .. [04:39]
truffles lets be a happy #assets [04:39]
Gotchawallet almost inclined to press 2 so i will not press either because pressing 1 would mean hell [04:39]
Gotchawallet is there a 0? [04:39]
* Gotchawallet is now known as KRS|Gotyawallet [04:39]
truffles :( [04:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [04:40]
KRS|Gotyawallet dont worry truffles it'll be okay.. [04:44]
truffles i know i managed to survive these many years without #assets, dunno how i did [04:45]
KRS|Gotyawallet because you aren't a muppet i guess..they're easily spotted here. [04:47]
KRS|Gotyawallet at times I may have shown I've been uninformed (ignorant) but my intelligence pulls me through =D [04:47]
truffles ha [04:48]
truffles there is lotta that everywhere [04:48]
KRS|Gotyawallet its like information overload..i'm having trouble digesting so much news and information sometimes. hard to keep up with and exhausting. i'm afraid i might miss something so i work real hard at it. the world moves pretty fast. [04:49]
truffles it does [04:49]
KRS|Gotyawallet i started smoking these e-cigs (vaporizors) this one is english toffee. i like it so far [04:49]
truffles trolls prob would help u with filtering, putting them on ignore discourages this skill [04:50]
KRS|Gotyawallet yea they do help, anything that floats to the top of their froth seems to be worth looking at for a final decision as to whether its worth my time or not [04:51]
truffles sometimes some really smart ppl r so closed-minded or narrow minded and it kinda surprises me too much [04:53]
mircea_popescu its like information overload. << try reading tvtropes sometime [04:53]
mircea_popescu my brain is still singed from the last binge [04:53]
Duffer1 http://i.imgur.com/psu515W.gif [04:55]
Duffer1 yes it's a cat gif [04:55]
* truffles calls peta [04:56]
mircea_popescu lol [04:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 11.75438420 BTC to 14`404 shares, 81605 satoshi per share [05:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 2.57234125 BTC to 331`915 shares, 775 satoshi per share [05:03]
KRS|Gotyawallet Tropes Are Tools, not clichés. - this will help me take a more critical approach to media [05:04]
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KRS|Gotyawallet thanks- looking more into this [05:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 320 @ 0.0029899 = 0.9568 BTC [+] [05:04]
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KRS|Gotyawallet yeah truffles you are right about that, i'm not sure what to make of it myself [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00090974 = 13.4642 BTC [-] {3} [05:07]
KRS|Gotyawallet could be a number of different reasons, imo most of the time it has something to do with their personality type [05:08]
truffles easy example, can an intelligent person be racist? [05:08]
KRS|Gotyawallet probably [05:10]
KRS|Gotyawallet i dont see why not [05:10]
KRS|Gotyawallet i saw something on bitcoin tonight on tv- it was amazingly positive- its one of those off-brand "news" broadcasts. I shall see if I can find it. [05:11]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [05:11]
mircea_popescu truffles intelligent persons have in fact been racist historically. [05:12]
mircea_popescu that resolves your q. [05:12]
truffles but were they doing so cuz they felt it or cuz of actual goals [05:13]
mircea_popescu there's nothing intrinsic to intelligence that prevents racism (as you define it) nor is there in fact anything wrong with racism in principle [05:13]
mircea_popescu any more than there's anything wrong with cheese. [05:13]
truffles i see something wrong with it, but less so if its a means to an end [05:14]
pankkake less so? as in, if racism justifies slavery it's better than racism alone? [05:14]
mircea_popescu yes well. cheese is a particular way to process milk. racism is a particular way to process difference. [05:14]
mircea_popescu either can be eminently inadequate for a certain purpose or in a given circumstance [05:15]
truffles thats where we have prejudice [05:15]
mircea_popescu but outside of the agent, his purpose and his circumstances, they're just that, cheese. [05:15]
truffles pankkake not necessarily that [05:15]
VanCleef i'm cool with racism as long as we can be homophobic too [05:15]
VanCleef do you hate gays mircea? [05:15]
mircea_popescu VanCleef notrly [05:15]
VanCleef ew [05:16]
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mircea_popescu ok, to make the joke : "i don't hate sick people" [05:16]
kakobrekla bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4264071#msg4264071 [05:16]
kakobrekla fuukin http missing stupid browser [05:16]
VanCleef i dont like them because they are commiting crimes against nature [05:16]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla everything is better witha smaller ammount of http [05:16]
pankkake kakobrekla: using Nooble Chrome? :| [05:16]
truffles hate is a strong word u know [05:16]
kakobrekla pankkake opera [05:17]
mircea_popescu fun fact : with internet kid at plastics factory. kid notices large HTPP spelled out somewhere, decides they've misspelled http [05:17]
kakobrekla they decided to remove the option to show full url tards. [05:17]
truffles i started using opera to get away from firefox, it required too much ! [05:17]
truffles or rather lacking too much [05:19]
pankkake wow, even Opera is removing options now? [05:20]
kakobrekla yes i will stop using it prolly [05:21]
kakobrekla they made it for retard users [05:21]
pankkake the Chrome devs refuse to put an option, and close any bug on the subject without discussion [05:21]
kakobrekla you know what is the reasoning for that option removal [05:21]
kakobrekla "http or https is too techical for people" [05:21]
pankkake it's a fucking option, put it behind an "Avanced do not go there" [05:22]
pankkake put it in about:config! oh, wait [05:22]
kakobrekla yeah, first place i searched [05:22]
kakobrekla but no cigar [05:22]
pankkake oh opera has about:config? :) [05:22]
kakobrekla its opera:config [05:22]
kakobrekla an opera:about [05:23]
kakobrekla and [05:23]
mircea_popescu so use 7.5 or w/e [05:23]
mircea_popescu not like you have to use their most recent brainfuck, or there's any incentive to do so [05:23]
pankkake security fixes [05:23]
KRS|Gotyawallet cant find it but..did you guys see this http://pro.moneymappress.com/NVXBITCOIN49/WNVXPC41/ [05:23]
kakobrekla i would have to go way back to get a non sucky version [05:23]
kakobrekla which now sucks in other ways. [05:24]
ozbot [Direct] Rentalstarter-Bond - Paying WEEKLY interest [05:24]
kakobrekla also i thought their integration of webkit is going to save them [05:24]
kakobrekla its looking rather bleek so far [05:24]
kakobrekla which makes kako unhappy. [05:24]
pankkake KRS|Gotyawallet: lol the investor comments on the bottom look so like the ones of scams [05:25]
KRS|Gotyawallet yeah the video is moving [05:25]
pankkake why the fuck are they using edison [05:26]
pankkake what the fuck is this [05:26]
KRS|Gotyawallet probably because its based on electric and not paper [05:26]
KRS|Gotyawallet they dont want to put the name 'bitcoin' out there right away because it seems they are offering investment plans on how to invest in it [05:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8958 @ 0.00090955 = 8.1477 BTC [-] {2} [05:26]
pankkake brb starting EdisonCoin [05:27]
pankkake and its silver to gold TeslaCoin [05:28]
kakobrekla make it AC and DC [05:28]
kakobrekla just go use ripple or something rather! [05:29]
kakobrekla http://www.frontiersinzoology.com/content/10/1/80/abstract [05:29]
ozbot Frontiers in Zoology | Abstract | Dogs are sensitive to small variations of the Earth's magnetic fie [05:29]
kakobrekla Dogs preferred to excrete with the body being aligned along the North-south axis under calm MF conditions. [05:29]
kakobrekla fyi. [05:29]
Duffer1 oh cool [05:30]
KRS|Gotyawallet folks within the FED are probably starting to poop their pants a little on the liquid side 1Q14 [05:30]
Duffer1 so do i actually [05:30]
Duffer1 you know.. just to make it weird [05:30]
mircea_popescu if there's anyone left with a working brain over there [05:31]
mircea_popescu i dunno... cognitive dissonance kills brain cells [05:31]
KRS|Gotyawallet I don't think the FED has ever been under so much attack as this day and age [05:31]
KRS|Gotyawallet thinking everything up until now, but with the addition of digital currency [05:32]
KRS|Gotyawallet Libertarians, competing foreign currency, digital currency [05:33]
KRS|Gotyawallet Inflation [05:34]
KRS|Gotyawallet that was bad [05:34]
KRS|Gotyawallet that+oil crisis was bad [05:34]
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mircea_popescu myeah [05:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 769 @ 0.00091099 = 0.7006 BTC [+] [05:37]
kakobrekla ok im ipoing doge compass [05:37]
kakobrekla buy before too late [05:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 47 @ 0.31365068 = 14.7416 BTC [+] {10} [05:38]
KRS|Gotyawallet makes me wonder how my parents did so well..even considering the high unemployment of the early-mid 80's [05:39]
KRS|Gotyawallet our generation is now, our generation is virtual currency [05:39]
Duffer1 your college degree was actually worth something.. [05:41]
KRS|Gotyawallet i think early 80's unemplyment in the US was near 14% [05:41]
benkay and it's not there now?! [05:41]
KRS|Gotyawallet Dyffer1 good point- i was shocked after going to college to see just how worthless a degree was..i felt like i wasted my time, but I'm happy to have been educated. [05:42]
KRS|Gotyawallet bekay I think its near 8% [05:42]
benkay dat good old "labor participation" fudge factor [05:42]
benkay you guys eat these government employment statistics up wholly credulously [05:42]
benkay amazing [05:42]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [05:42]
KRS|Gotyawallet benkay where else can one go for those stats? [05:43]
Duffer1 they stop counting those that stop looking (are forced off benefits) [05:43]
ozbot Bureau of Labor Statistics Data [05:43]
benkay dig into the conspiracy theory areas yourself [05:43]
KRS|Gotyawallet the20year1- thanks but see what benkay said [05:43]
benkay there are some slim pickings of useful information out there. [05:44]
KRS|Gotyawallet he might be right but i have no comment beyond that [05:44]
Duffer1 i define unemployment as any mode below personal sustainability [05:45]
Duffer1 which would include under-employed [05:45]
truffles below personal sustainability? [05:46]
benkay the whole notion is fucked. there's a generation out there laboring at fast food operations under a few tens of thousands of dollars of debt undertaken for useless degrees. [05:46]
benkay but hey they're 'employed' [05:46]
benkay it's like counting labor camps in the employment numbers [05:46]
truffles everyone cant get that nice office job like u benkay [05:47]
Duffer1 truffles an amount that can sustain you without forced reliance on a welfare system [05:47]
truffles hmmm [05:47]
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benkay and zero americans electing to not get degrees. [05:48]
truffles via nepotism? [05:48]
benkay precisely. over educated and unwilling to work manual jobs. [05:49]
truffles tend oil lines [05:49]
benkay yeah man if you like putting your hands on the line every time you go to work [05:49]
truffles like thats some pretty job omg [05:49]
benkay i got out of the atom-smashing business a while ago [05:49]
benkay plus you can't smoke pot [05:49]
benkay modern hippies would rather not work than take a job that keeps them off the reefer [05:50]
kakobrekla having a job is so nineties [05:50]
truffles benkay and the20year1 must be trollin now [05:50]
KRS|Gotyawallet cant tell which is the troll [05:51]
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KRS|Gotyawallet haha [05:51]
truffles what town? [05:51]
truffles this is like unheard of [05:51]
KRS|Gotyawallet that old guy with the spikey white hair has been spotted on the interwebz, sometime during this christmas holiday http://forums.newart.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=145319&mode=view [05:52]
truffles its not detroit at least :D [05:52]
KRS|Gotyawallet is that benkay's bls statistic though [05:53]
truffles so these jobs that no one wants are only available in Ohio? [05:53]
pankkake KRS|Gotyawallet: anyone opening that link at work just lost their jobs. congratulations! [05:55]
truffles so ure talking about skilled labor not the jobs that random joes can get [05:56]
benkay .bait [05:56]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/4bd1a5d0e8901c9bf4cbaa925a8fa8c5/tumblr_msy4w3CXHQ1qm2q0lo1_1280.jpg [05:56]
benkay pankkake: same with anyone opening that link. what of it? [05:56]
ozbot Timeline Photos [05:57]
benkay maybe they should get a job as a welder [05:57]
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KRS|Gotyawallet wow rly lol [05:59]
KRS|Gotyawallet most welders don't only weld they are also fabricators and that is why [05:59]
mircea_popescu KRS|Gotyawallet> bekay I think its near 8% << depends how you count it [06:00]
KRS|Gotyawallet f'n-a i didnt know about the .bait command [06:00]
KRS|Gotyawallet me and ozbot need to get a separate room..bbl [06:00]
mircea_popescu 8% of the people actively looking for a job can't find one. 30% or so of the people who could work do not [06:00]
mircea_popescu part of them through being homeless/bums. part through pretending to be sick. [06:00]
mircea_popescu plenty through simply staying off the books [06:00]
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truffles who are they polling? [06:05]
truffles sample size? [06:06]
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truffles that is crazy to me [06:08]
truffles the list of questions id have to ask is too much to resolve this in my mind, so ill end here :D [06:08]
kakobrekla http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg4259859#msg4259859 [06:11]
ozbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC [06:11]
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KRS|Gotyawallet i tried kraken i hated it [06:13]
Duffer1 brb mpsex.com [06:13]
Duffer1 .co [06:13]
KRS|Gotyawallet speaking of, is /dtng ever going back online [06:13]
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kakobrekla whys taht KRS|Gotyawallet [06:15]
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pankkake http://www.infowars.com/global-warming-scientists-still-trapped-in-record-level-antarctic-ice/ [06:23]
ozbot » Global Warming Scientists Still Trapped In Record-Level Antarctic Ice Alex Jones' Infowars: Ther [06:23]
kakobrekla you link infowars, im starting to belive gw is real [06:26]
pankkake my source is French, then googled the first stuff I could find. what's infowars? [06:26]
Duffer1 i'm afraid to load the comments [06:26]
Duffer1 i can't even remember why i read the whole post.. [06:26]
kakobrekla u dont know alex jones?? [06:26]
Duffer1 think bat + shit + lsd [06:27]
truffles he lives in a cave [06:27]
pankkake the name rings a bell [06:27]
truffles he's got great energy though [06:27]
kakobrekla makes a good sandwitch with keiser [06:28]
kakobrekla er, sandwich [06:28]
truffles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZvMwcluEg [06:28]
ozbot Alex Jones vs Piers Morgan On Gun Control - CNN 1/7/2013 - YouTube [06:28]
truffles i like keiser too :D [06:28]
* truffles is down with weird [06:29]
Duffer1 dear lord the fail [06:29]
Duffer1 it makes my soul hurt [06:29]
kakobrekla well keiser is funny sometimes but else meh [06:29]
kakobrekla alex is just retarded [06:29]
truffles no wai man [06:29]
Duffer1 a retard vs a british pundit talking about american gun control [06:30]
truffles alex delivers so many times [06:30]
kakobrekla yes that clip is a classic [06:30]
mircea_popescu best part about alex jones i discovered is that hes kinda flabby fat [06:30]
mircea_popescu nothing funnier than a very excited conspiracy theorist that looks like a bank clerk [06:30]
kakobrekla flabby fat? [06:30]
truffles yea looks like he eats well [06:30]
mircea_popescu need somewhat of a el che look to pull off crazy in a cool way. [06:30]
kakobrekla he looks like he eats cocaine only [06:30]
kakobrekla oh sorry [06:31]
Duffer1 he looks so average american it's scary [06:31]
kakobrekla i thught you said the other guy [06:31]
truffles doesnt coke make u skinny though [06:31]
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truffles 3:00-3:11 is my fav of that clip [06:32]
kakobrekla yes, coke = keiser [06:32]
kakobrekla thats what i ment [06:32]
truffles how many great white sharks kill people etc lol [06:33]
truffles he shouldve been a comedian [06:33]
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truffles i havent seen anyone just shut down piers like alex jones besides jessie ventura [06:36]
truffles he just bulldozers guests.. [06:36]
kakobrekla he says nothing of substane though [06:36]
kakobrekla substance [06:37]
truffles piers? [06:37]
kakobrekla its like a dog barking [06:37]
kakobrekla alex [06:37]
truffles hmmm [06:37]
Duffer1 piers was more like a dog presenting [06:37]
kakobrekla dog who barks doesnt bite [06:38]
kakobrekla which barks? [06:38]
kakobrekla dunno [06:38]
kakobrekla something like that [06:38]
kakobrekla could ba a who its a nigga dog [06:38]
kakobrekla or a doge dog [06:39]
truffles lol [06:39]
truffles u like that word "nigga" lol [06:39]
Duffer1 i like how he dismisses gang violence so casually [06:39]
Duffer1 very well done [06:39]
Duffer1 i mean really who cares about all them blacks killin eachother [06:40]
Duffer1 that's not "real" gun violence [06:40]
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mircea_popescu i thought most gangs were latino [06:45]
mircea_popescu it's kinda funny to watch all the aggitation over the black minority from afar. there's about 50% more latino people in the us, nobody is all too excited about THEIR poor prospects and poor access [06:45]
truffles maybe the latino's are shooting the blacks? [06:45]
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mircea_popescu the blacks speak english at least. [06:46]
Duffer1 largest is white if you count our police forces [06:46]
Duffer1 the political discussion when it comes to latinos circles almost exclusively on immigration [06:47]
Duffer1 centers* [06:47]
mircea_popescu white is a solid 75% majority. [06:47]
mod6 the walls they build to keep out the mexicans will someday keep the fleeing americans out of mexico [06:48]
mircea_popescu the nature of walls. [06:48]
Duffer1 indeed [06:48]
ohider whats up [06:48]
ohider with EMF weapons who needs walls just tell people what/where to go [06:50]
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ohider i have an idea that I want to get some feedback on [06:54]
truffles EMP? [06:55]
* truffles wants to play some command and conquer! [06:55]
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twizt god damn [06:59]
twizt i set a password so hard on my nick [06:59]
twizt i forgot it [06:59]
truffles lol story of my life [06:59]
kakobrekla you can reset it afaik [06:59]
mircea_popescu twizt write all your pws down, encrypt the file to your gpg key. [07:00]
BingoBoingo Thankfully the WoT doesn't depend on Nickserv's security [07:01]
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twizt whats "n_unredeemed":2, on blockchain? [07:09]
twizt is that unconfirmed bal? [07:09]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Thanks. I'm still contemplating other elements of dated 90's web aesthetics I could incorporate without succumbing to animated Gifs. [07:10]
kakobrekla do you have a visitor counter? [07:10]
Duffer1 do you even frames bro? [07:11]
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BingoBoingo Nice, ideas! [07:14]
Duffer1 mouse trail? [07:14]
pankkake needs "under construction" image [07:14]
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pankkake oh god I forgot about mouse trails [07:14]
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ohider if bitcoin tip works on reddit would that system work on a website that students can post their work? [07:29]
Duffer1 for a homework buying website? [07:30]
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ohider a legitimate way of getting paid for the work that you do in class [07:33]
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truffles college athletes dont get proper compensation, heh [07:34]
ohider if people want to steal ideas and resubmit theres no stopping that but if students can have a way of getting paid the motivation of doing school work is changed [07:34]
ohider and also use bitcoin to pay student athletes [07:34]
pankkake but you expect people to "tip" for homework? I don't see the relation to reddit [07:34]
ohider my website is boco.bit [07:35]
Duffer1 using bitcoin would be a good way to get caught [07:35]
Duffer1 wouldn't you want something without a public ledger if you don't want to worry about getting expelled? [07:35]
pankkake boco.bit has address 10.0.0.7 [07:36]
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truffles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Harvard_cheating_scandal guess more of this will happen [07:37]
ozbot 2012 Harvard cheating scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [07:37]
pankkake cheating is so "normal" in education… it's just stupid [07:38]
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BingoBoingo I dunno Bitcoin might be a great way to get around NCAA prohibitions on paying college athletes if it is done right. [07:38]
ohider shit ok i need to do some more work [07:38]
ohider ya thats my idea [07:38]
ohider buy bit coins through localbitcoin.com all across the country and use those to pay your atheletes [07:38]
ohider the costs would be plane flights and use to buy bitcoin [07:40]
ohider USD* [07:41]
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truffles flights to? [07:41]
ohider if you are buying bitcoin with cash its best to do it all over the country so no one remembers you so you would need to travel some [07:43]
BingoBoingo ohider: Nah, it is fine if people remember you buying. It might also be helpful with that little trust business... [07:43]
truffles y wouldnt they remember u? [07:44]
ohider if you are buying large amounts of bitcoin, the seller will remember you [07:44]
Duffer1 you would need an enormous amount of bitcoins to pay college athletes what they bring in for their states annually [07:45]
ohider exactly [07:45]
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BingoBoingo Duffer1: That much is probably unreasonable, but Bitcoin could be away for school's boosters to continue continuting to athletes as they have always done, and probably in richer amounts. [07:49]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: next maybe you will suggest bitcoin as a way to pay beggars? [07:50]
asciilifeform these people barely have enough brains to use fiat... [07:50]
ohider fuck why not there an article about a homeless guy who has a tablet and a solar panel that lives off bitcoin [07:50]
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truffles lol! [07:51]
ohider http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/09/bitcoin-homeless/ [07:51]
ozbot Homeless, Unemployed, and Surviving on Bitcoins | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com [07:51]
Duffer1 did you read that article? [07:51]
ohider http://cryptocoinupdates.com/voluntarily-homeless-man-lives-off-bitcoin-android-tablet-and-a-solar-charger/ [07:52]
pankkake didn't read the article but sounds like the usual hype [07:52]
Duffer1 pure horseshit is another word for it [07:53]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Nah. School boosters generally have a motivation for paying student athletes in that the more homework the athlete can afford the moar handegg they can practice and hopefully the more the team wins. What the athlete in this scheme would probably end with is not the Bitcoins, but some other value for which Bitcoins provide a measure of plausible deniability. [07:53]
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ohider i goat ask who's long on name coin? [07:54]
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ohider what is more valuable, 1 unit of name coin or a name coin url [07:56]
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Duffer1 i goat or i gotta? [07:56]
ohider gotta fuckin auto correct [07:57]
Duffer1 i like namecoin, i'd have a very small position if things were different [07:58]
Duffer1 that's actually saying a lot since imo most alts are shit [07:58]
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ohider Duffer1 why is that article about homeless dude horseshit? [07:58]
ohider whats the motivation of media covering that story? [07:59]
Duffer1 650+ a day clicking 12 videos that pay .00000001 per click [07:59]
Duffer1 does not compute [07:59]
ohider the second one about the guy w/ solar panel and tablet [07:59]
Duffer1 oh dunno didn't read, is he surviving on coins he already had or is he magically earning something from nothing like the wired article? [08:00]
ohider dude is a dev and homeless by choice. A "Into the Wild" type dude [08:01]
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ohider but he is homeless and can't get a bank account [08:01]
ohider so he does bitcoin [08:01]
mircea_popescu Duffer1 it was bs when it first came out, it still is. [08:01]
truffles cant raise a family homeless.. [08:01]
truffles one can but why would u! [08:03]
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ohider who is long on litecoin being that scrypt asic is coming down the line [08:04]
ohider will asic do to litecoin what it did to bitcoin ? [08:05]
mircea_popescu it may well wreck it [08:07]
ohider I hear this shit about bitcoin needs litecoin like gold needs silver. Is the next investment a coin that is impervious to asic? [08:07]
mircea_popescu seeing how possibly the onl;y thing keeping ltc alive is the insistent dedication of people who wish to mine but can't afford asics [08:07]
mircea_popescu going from the fringe fave to the mainstream clone is a move few survive [08:08]
asciilifeform juicy meat in the sun. flies arrive eventually. end of story... [08:09]
ohider is the game up when this is solved? [08:11]
ohider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_versus_NP_problem [08:11]
ozbot P versus NP problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [08:11]
Duffer1 "if one is provided with information showing what the answer is, it may be possible to" [08:12]
Duffer1 i thought i might be going somewhere with that but i care so little i'm having trouble even fini [08:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.0009083 = 11.1267 BTC [-] [08:15]
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pankkake litecoin would need asics to survive, but it will not please litecoiners [08:19]
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ohider doesn't asic allow people who have huge amounts of capital to make waves in the bitcoin environment [08:22]
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pankkake what does that mean? [08:22]
ohider asic costs a lot but you get a lot of bang for your buck [08:22]
asciilifeform re: ltc/asics: 'you can run but you can't hide.' [08:23]
Duffer1 the only ones making money on asics are the manufacturers [08:23]
ohider if GE wants to kill bitcoin they could just buy a shit ton of asic technology and dominate it [08:23]
pankkake gpus cost a lot too… (except of course that most litecoiners are 15 year olds who don't pay for gpus and electritiy) [08:23]
pankkake if you want to "dominate" litecoin just rent botnets or supercomputers for a day [08:24]
Duffer1 it would take the efforts of a major nation to attempt such an attack on bitcoin [08:24]
pankkake asics just make attacks costlier [08:24]
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Duffer1 it might even already be to late for them to produce something capable of it [08:25]
pankkake well, with asics closer to industry standards, yes [08:26]
ohider all you need to kill bitcoin is to create distrust in the people who believe in it [08:28]
ohider the dreaded 51% attack would be one way of doing that [08:28]
ohider how much would that cost [08:28]
Duffer1 does not compute [08:28]
ohider 100 million [08:28]
ohider 200 million [08:28]
ohider if bitcoin threatens fiat wouldn't that be a small price to pay to kill it [08:30]
pankkake http://www.coinometrics.com/bitcoin/brix [08:30]
pankkake they would have to kill it early - if they take interest when it's actually challenging, it's going to be much harder [08:31]
Duffer1 that assumes any of the other 189 nations wouldn't work in proportional measure to protect it, let alone the x amount of bitcoiners who already have billions in it not acting to protect themselves [08:31]
Duffer1 ^ @ ohider [08:32]
Duffer1 there's a relevant trilema article on this somewhere [08:33]
pankkake why would a state chose to use/protect bitcoin? (real question) [08:33]
Duffer1 to spite a rival nation / state that wants to kill it [08:34]
ohider if its bullet proof its a way to get off the USD [08:34]
pankkake though I could see it. like kings who made their countries democracies to avoid being overthrown [08:34]
Duffer1 if the US tried to kill bitcoin, i'd bitbet china would work to protect it [08:34]
Duffer1 jsut because, fuck you [08:34]
Duffer1 seriously [08:35]
Duffer1 oh i didn't say it was bulletproof [08:35]
pankkake i don't really believe in those politics. it has to make sense economically [08:35]
Duffer1 it's manmade, so there's that against it already [08:35]
Duffer1 ok maybe not china, but maybe putin wouldn't pass up such an opportunity to spit in the US' eye [08:36]
ohider @ pankkake where does that figure come from in that coinmetrics [08:37]
pankkake they explain it on the website [08:38]
Duffer1 i like how the natural cost of mining equipment for bitcoin is included in the "Defense Spending" catagory [08:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1324 @ 0.00129336 = 1.7124 BTC [-] {11} [08:44]
pankkake http://www.deepdotweb.com/2013/12/30/full-guide-how-to-access-i2p-sites-use-themarketplace-i2p/ so there's finally a working underground market on i2p! [08:45]
ozbot Full guide: How to access I2p sites & Use TheMarketplace.i2p | Deep Dot Web [08:45]
pankkake and they seem to use multisig transactions too [08:46]
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ohider sweet [08:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00090934 = 5.456 BTC [+] [08:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00091144 = 4.7395 BTC [+] [09:02]
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ohider I'm trying to convince my roommate to get into bitcoin [09:06]
ohider he doesn't want to but i know there's a breaking poit [09:07]
ohider point* [09:07]
ohider whats the best argument to go about this [09:07]
Duffer1 it's the only shot your generation has at any wealth [09:07]
Duffer1 take it or don't [09:07]
ohider less idealistic [09:08]
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Duffer1 ground investment in a platform and method of value transfer that has never existed before [09:09]
Duffer1 ground floor investment* [09:09]
pankkake why do you want to convince him? [09:09]
ohider for xmas i gave 0.15 btc to everyone in my familye [09:10]
Duffer1 good man [09:10]
ohider I'm long on bitcoin [09:10]
pankkake what were the reactions? [09:10]
ohider so if it gets accepted and the price goes up, i make money [09:11]
ohider my brother thinks I'm a crazy man [09:11]
ohider my dad seconds that [09:11]
pankkake the thing is, if you tell people to buy bitcoins, and they lose money… oops [09:12]
ohider my little brother has no idea what it is [09:12]
ohider but my mom thinks its the tits [09:12]
Duffer1 it's a modern experiment their investment is directly funding science [09:13]
ohider the best thing about it is now everyone has bitcoin [09:13]
ohider if they want to cash it out [09:14]
ohider they have to figure out how to [09:14]
Duffer1 and disrupting economic / social theory [09:14]
ohider so in a way they educate themselves about bitcoin [09:14]
Duffer1 i'm kinda nearing the end of my list here, does your family support relatives overseas or own a business that accepts visa/mastercard/paypal? [09:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31001201 BTC [-] [09:16]
ohider thats a negative ghost rider [09:16]
Duffer1 ah so a rant on tx fees wouldn't sway them.. hmm [09:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04999999 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2} [09:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.32424997 = 1.297 BTC [+] {3} [09:17]
ohider whats tx fees [09:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.32738461 = 4.256 BTC [+] {3} [09:18]
Duffer1 transaction fees [09:19]
ohider ah [09:19]
Duffer1 bitcoin payments bypass usurious paypal/mastercard/visa/western union processing fees etc [09:20]
Duffer1 so if they had a business and could get their customers to pay then in btc, they'd save a ton of money [09:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.325 = 1.625 BTC [-] {2} [09:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04999999 = 0.5 BTC [+] {2} [09:22]
Duffer1 what arguments have you tried? [09:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15361 @ 0.00090789 = 13.9461 BTC [-] {2} [09:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] {3} [09:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.326 = 0.978 BTC [+] [09:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2} [09:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3142 @ 0.00090741 = 2.8511 BTC [-] [09:26]
ohider roomate won't accept it [09:30]
ohider he refuses on the basis that he just doesn't want it [09:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1297 @ 0.00090741 = 1.1769 BTC [-] [09:30]
Duffer1 he may be right not to [09:31]
ohider my argument is that there is nothing to lose [09:31]
Duffer1 oh wait you're trying to give him .1 and he doesn't want it? [09:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14143 @ 0.00090592 = 12.8124 BTC [-] {2} [09:31]
ohider i want to propagate bitcoin and am willing to send him 0.01 btc [09:32]
Duffer1 oh [09:32]
ohider se la ve [09:33]
pankkake wait, he has nothing to lose? [09:33]
pankkake of course he has [09:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00090583 = 6.2049 BTC [-] [09:34]
pankkake unless it's free bitcoins well… [09:34]
ohider what is there to lose for getting a wallet and accepting free bitcoin [09:34]
ohider fuck it I'm in a giving mood first address i see gets 0.01 btc [09:35]
Duffer1 1JWUtyUEVauc2so2Pb2mF4XjsfcdvXYczB [09:35]
mircea_popescu if GE wants to kill bitcoin they could just buy a shit ton of asic technology and dominate it << way too late for that. [09:36]
ohider boom [09:36]
mircea_popescu and who are you anyway ? [09:36]
pankkake I missed the "buy" part - if you want to 51% attack, you will never get enough by just buying [09:37]
Duffer1 thank you that is very much appreciated ohider [09:37]
ohider http://www.peoplesfix.com [09:39]
ohider my buddies website he needs some advertisement [09:39]
mircea_popescu so what's your website ? [09:43]
ohider boco.bit [09:43]
ohider i'm still at the developing stage though [09:44]
ohider need some help [09:44]
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Duffer1 i don't think i read exactly what it was you wanted to do with the site [09:45]
ohider students post their work along with a bitcoin address [09:46]
Duffer1 essays and homework i'm assuming? [09:46]
ohider if its good people will donate [09:46]
ohider whatever they feel confident in [09:46]
Duffer1 ah [09:46]
ohider if people are willing to tip fellow redditors for three sentence posts, whats the value of a dynamite research paper [09:47]
mircea_popescu did you do your research to know what % of students can access .bit domains ? [09:48]
ohider namecoin is in its infancy [09:48]
ohider i bought 5 or 6 domain names [09:48]
BingoBoingo ohider: Namecoin is a 4 year old infant then... [09:49]
mircea_popescu no, you are in your infancy. namecoin has been in its infancy since at least 2011 [09:49]
ohider what .bit site do you frequent [09:49]
mircea_popescu when i first bought some domains that i never bothered develop. [09:49]
pankkake I'm a fan of namecoin and I can't even access it [09:49]
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pankkake oh, well, it really resolves to 10.0.0.7 - so there's nothing? [09:50]
mircea_popescu anyway, the research papers online model chiefly works on the basis of their vast database of already submitted papers which they own and don't pay the authors for [anymore]. unless you have 1000s of works of already stale material it'll be a tough nut to crack. [09:50]
ohider the idea of some company buying the domain name you squated on is a pipe dream [09:50]
mircea_popescu ohider they were my trademarks. [09:50]
Duffer1 there's a trilema.bit? [09:51]
mircea_popescu notrly. [09:51]
Duffer1 brb [09:51]
mircea_popescu cause... why bother./ [09:51]
Duffer1 j/k [09:51]
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ohider so my brother goes to a really good art school [09:52]
ohider what if students could put up there art work [09:52]
Duffer1 deviantart + bitcointip [09:52]
ohider if you want to print a poster to put on your wall [09:53]
ohider what would you pay for that artwork [09:53]
ohider 0.001 btc? [09:53]
ohider 0.0001 btc? [09:53]
mircea_popescu how are you going to steal deviantart's fanbase ? [09:54]
ohider whats his site [09:54]
Duffer1 deviantart [09:54]
BingoBoingo How are you going to compete with actual printed works from nubbins' who is already in the WOT? [09:54]
mircea_popescu lol [09:55]
Duffer1 does nubs screenprint everything? i thought he just did his own designs [09:55]
mircea_popescu presumably nubbins is only one person so he can get overloaded [09:55]
BingoBoingo I imagine eventually nubs could move to the sweatshop model [09:56]
Duffer1 ohider i don't think there's a bitcoin tip function for deviantart, but if a website like deviantart started accepting bitcointip and it became popular, deviantart would just add it and you'd be s.o.l. [09:57]
Duffer1 same with etsy [09:57]
mircea_popescu i thought etsy took btc [09:57]
ohider it may be idealist but i think that there is value in academic work [09:57]
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Duffer1 do they? it's been a while since i've been shopping [09:58]
mircea_popescu i dont think i ever shoip there but i recall some pretty nude young thing telling me she got some btc from selling her artwork [09:58]
Duffer1 i think you're right, i just don't see how you'll be able to monetize [09:58]
mircea_popescu mebbe im confusing them [09:58]
ohider dude look at bitcoin tip on reddit [09:58]
Duffer1 http://www.etsy.com/teams/10366/bitcoin cool [09:59]
ozbot Bitcoin - Etsy Teams [09:59]
mircea_popescu yah, speaking of which, do you have global figures of the reddit tip thing ? what's monthly total ? [09:59]
ohider so i can get 0.001 btc for writing some shit on a blog [09:59]
Duffer1 right but what i'm asking is how do you make your money? would you take a % of the tip? [10:00]
Duffer1 i'm pretty sure reddittip doesn't do that [10:00]
ohider at first I'm not making money [10:01]
ohider i want my site to be exclusive to the university that i go to [10:01]
ohider it will be a site that only students can register accounts on but anyone can view/donate [10:01]
ohider i don't want to reinvent the wheel but it will be a craigslist/kickstart for anything college kids want [10:02]
ohider funding for a party [10:02]
BingoBoingo ohider: First I'd want to know what university... The wrong one could kill this whole thing at the start [10:03]
ohider funding for a school group or organization [10:03]
ohider funding for some killer architecture model you designed [10:03]
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Duffer1 a bitcoin crowdsourcing site that's also a craigslist like marketplace for anything? [10:05]
ohider exactly [10:05]
ohider but it can't be shady [10:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16524 @ 0.00091151 = 15.0618 BTC [+] {2} [10:05]
ohider it has to be on the furnace above board [10:05]
Duffer1 if users are free to list whatever they went then you'll have to actively police the listings [10:05]
ohider surface* [10:06]
ohider say I'm a seller selling custom t shirts [10:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32 = 0.64 BTC [-] [10:07]
BingoBoingo ;;ident ohider [10:07]
gribble Nick 'ohider', with hostmask 'ohider!43be67b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.190.103.182', is not identified. [10:07]
ohider i post my ad for these shirts and say hey, heres my bit message address i don't want to discuss financials over email or phone. [10:08]
ohider i might be selling t shirts or i might be selling contraband [10:08]
ohider on my side, the t shirt business is legit legal [10:09]
ohider so im not worried about what sellers are actually selling [10:09]
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ohider just give them the means through bitcoin. bit message to do whatever they wabt [10:09]
ohider want* [10:09]
Duffer1 with each of the platforms you're talking about using, you're adding another hurdle for joeshmo customer [10:09]
Duffer1 .bit first bit message second [10:10]
ohider if joeshmo user wants to buy an 8ball [10:10]
BingoBoingo And all of these platforms for some tiny consumer use [10:10]
ohider they will figure it out [10:10]
Duffer1 your target market just doesn't exist man [10:12]
ohider silk road [10:12]
Duffer1 they'd have to 1 - know about and use bitcoin and special handling for .bit domains, 2 - will have to exist at your school exclusively, 3 - understand bitmessage communication, 4 - do drugs [10:13]
Duffer1 silk road was just bitcoin and tor [10:14]
Duffer1 and was worldwide [10:15]
ohider theres a feeling of being "in" when your privy to ways of getting illegal shit [10:15]
ohider im not loping for a huge consumer base [10:15]
ohider looking* [10:15]
ohider just those kids who are willing to do the work [10:16]
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mircea_popescu how old are you ? [10:21]
ohider college aged [10:22]
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mircea_popescu well, that feeling of being in has a way of turning into a reality of being in. [10:22]
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mircea_popescu for instance, the silkroad kid they caught by discovering that he came here going "hey guise, how would someone make like a bitcoin tor craigslist" [10:26]
mircea_popescu or at least so they said. [10:26]
Duffer1 i think a bitcoin based localized community market is a great idea, maybe not so profitable but still something i think people would use [10:27]
mircea_popescu except college kids rarely are part of the local community [10:28]
Duffer1 but to take that one step further into facilitating drug trade, i don't believe you're ready to hide from the awesome and terrifying might of the usgov [10:28]
mircea_popescu they're there to go to college. [10:28]
mircea_popescu sort-of like us soldiers in vietnam [10:28]
ohider im not initially worried about making money with the marketplace [10:28]
ohider if something has value there are ways of making money off it [10:29]
ohider look up how craigslist makes money [10:29]
Duffer1 certainly but is the risk an par with the reward [10:29]
ohider the guy is a fucking genius / billionaire [10:29]
Duffer1 on par* [10:29]
Duffer1 you risk 20+ years in prison for x amount of cash [10:30]
mircea_popescu a) the craigslist guy isn't a billionaire ; b) i am. [10:30]
ohider ha right [10:30]
mircea_popescu im gonna print these out for when i'm old. just too good stuff. [10:30]
BingoBoingo ohider: Seems like it's time for you to register with Gribble and get to reading [10:31]
mircea_popescu not to imply there's anything wrong with mr newark. [10:32]
ohider whats gribble [10:32]
Duffer1 ;;google gribble bot [10:32]
gribble SourceForge.net: gribble: ; Gribble - Bitcoin: ; Using bitcoin-otc - bitcoin-otc wiki: [10:32]
BingoBoingo ohider: Or mayb flip the order of reading and registering aroud [10:33]
ohider 404 [10:33]
Duffer1 try the bitcoin-otc link, that'll have web of trust, otc, gribble etc [10:33]
BingoBoingo That last link http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc is the more important one [10:34]
mircea_popescu incredible how often that is said about google these days [10:38]
ohider i need to setup a safe email [10:46]
ohider is there such a thing? [10:46]
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BingoBoingo ohider: GPG can keep contents safe, but you'll still leave metadata around. [10:47]
BingoBoingo Completely safe untraceable email isn't a thing. You need to worry more about protecting messages than trying to protect the channel. [10:49]
ohider what about bitmessage [10:50]
BingoBoingo Dunno that bitmessage is too worth looking into, there seems to be some vulnerabilities associated with how it works [10:51]
BingoBoingo http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/bitmessage-completely-broken-crypto/ [10:52]
ozbot Bitmessage v1.0: completely broken crypto | bitslog [10:52]
ohider @mircea_popecsu are you the real dude [11:00]
Duffer1 ;;gpg ident mircea_popescu [11:00]
gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified. [11:00]
Duffer1 based on the replies you got i'd say it's probably not a nick squater :P [11:02]
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ohider ok I'm out stay tuned boco.bit will be up this month [11:06]
Duffer1 good luck man :) [11:06]
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mircea_popescu yes, i'm the real dude. [11:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11486 @ 0.00091159 = 10.4705 BTC [+] {3} [11:19]
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benkay regarding the recent Bloomberg piece: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/01/02_the-mad-mad-mad-mad-mr-mihm.html [12:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 226 @ 0.001 = 0.226 BTC [12:51]
Duffer1 that article ws pretty low hanging fruit [12:51]
benkay my fruits hang pretty low as well [12:53]
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pankkake cascadia: first province of the cryptostate [12:55]
pankkake lol [12:55]
benkay gotta give the hipsters something to chew on [12:56]
pankkake no RSS feed? [12:56]
pankkake found it http://cascadianhacker.com/index.xml [12:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25950 @ 0.00090956 = 23.6031 BTC [-] {3} [12:58]
benkay what rss reader do you use, pankkake [13:00]
benkay ? [13:00]
pankkake tt-rss [13:03]
pankkake with newsbeuter [13:03]
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Duffer1 http://www.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/comments/1u6jbm/first_guy_to_buy_legal_nonmedical_marijuana_in/ [13:07]
Duffer1 hate all you want, reddit still delivers [13:07]
benkay quality of us "journalism" has declined to the point where the journos are now the story and the story is a picture [13:09]
Duffer1 i like pictures [13:09]
benkay come march i'll be able to bike across the bridge and get my ganj on in the free market too. [13:10]
Duffer1 might even be able to pay btc for it too [13:12]
benkay and why would i do that now!? [13:13]
Duffer1 smart man [13:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.0009105 = 9.2871 BTC [+] {2} [13:13]
benkay thanks for the post idea: bitcoins aren't for spending. stop being retarded, silicon valley. [13:13]
Duffer1 i dunno man, people still need to treat it as a currency to some degree [13:14]
Duffer1 if everyone just held then it would be a pure speculation vehicle for fiat and not much else [13:15]
Duffer1 was that mihm article yours benkay? [13:16]
kakobrekla Decembers result for Panacea: +0.42% [13:17]
benkay "to some degree" can be all sorts of things: international transfers, intergenerational transfers, highly obscured transfers, uninterdictable transfers [13:17]
benkay some day it'll be useful in day-to-day shit [13:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00318659 = 0.1434 BTC [+] {2} [13:18]
benkay not now. not for ten years, likely as not. and maybe even local fiat is more useful at that point, and those who are lucky enough to hold butts will transfer in and out of local fiat scrip as appropriate for their cashflow needs. [13:18]
benkay mircea_popescu has an article about deflationary currencies around somewhere. [13:19]
benkay Duffer1: yes, that's mine. [13:19]
Duffer1 ah [13:19]
benkay you'll note the link to my otc profile at the bottom of the page. [13:19]
Duffer1 oh missed that [13:19]
KRS|Gotyawallet is it worth looking at otc for good buys or mostly market price? [13:20]
benkay what is a good buy? [13:20]
KRS|Gotyawallet below market price? [13:20]
benkay a good price for a tiny amount of butts, or a clean transaction that keeps your name out of the dirt? [13:21]
KRS|Gotyawallet oh i see umm i'm not sure what you mean about the second part [13:21]
benkay some people don't really feel like going through the AML/KYC rectal analysis. [13:22]
benkay or whatever the eurobutt equivalent is. [13:22]
KRS|Gotyawallet ok i was starting to think along those lines- gotcha. [13:22]
KRS|Gotyawallet i think its worth looking at then-for sure thanks [13:23]
benkay mp says these things and everyone's like "u crazy romanian: [13:24]
benkay stfu" [13:24]
KRS|Gotyawallet haha [13:26]
benkay i suppose he leaves the whys and wherefores to the low hanging fruits [13:26]
KRS|Gotyawallet i'm not understanding sturles pricing..weird. wonder if he's quoting pesos [13:27]
KRS|Gotyawallet looking for a good deal for say $10K [13:28]
KRS|Gotyawallet usd [13:28]
benkay firing up an #otc reputation a few months ago and ramping up your trades looks like a real good idea in retrospect, doesn't it? [13:28]
KRS|Gotyawallet yes sir [13:29]
KRS|Gotyawallet i lost my damn gpg identity [13:30]
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Duffer1 rather unfortunate username for that plan though man [13:30]
KRS|Gotyawallet damn you aint kidding [13:30]
Duffer1 i cringe everytime i see thick-as-thieves [13:30]
KRS|Gotyawallet theres another KRS so I was going to slowly change over..thanks for making me realize this. [13:30]
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Duffer1 bro take a second to say that outloud :) [13:31]
KRS|Gotyawallet Duffer1: I never understood that about TaT and considering what he does [13:31]
Duffer1 ya hehe [13:31]
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benkay we're all prisoners of our past decisions. [13:31]
KRS1 heh thanks [13:31]
KRS1 no matter how old i get i never seem to have enough foresight [13:32]
Duffer1 ya no doubt [13:34]
benkay foreskin, though... [13:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00091052 = 6.8744 BTC [+] [13:38]
mircea_popescu kinda low hanging, kinda not put the effort into doing the whole job, either. [13:47]
mircea_popescu you can be sloppy and genius, you can be trite and thorough. [13:47]
mircea_popescu there's no sloppy and trite prize [13:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.0009108 = 1.5939 BTC [+] [13:48]
mircea_popescu ;;seen ThickAsThieves [13:48]
gribble ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 18 hours, 8 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: CySEC is the Cyprus Exchange [13:48]
mircea_popescu no new year's in thieves' land [13:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47327 @ 0.00091379 = 43.2469 BTC [+] {8} [13:49]
Duffer1 ah i didn't mean ben's article, i meant the bloomberg one [13:49]
Duffer1 easy to pick on [13:49]
mircea_popescu wait. benkay now has a blog ? [13:50]
Duffer1 apparently hehe [13:50]
mircea_popescu lol cool. [13:50]
mircea_popescu now we can tell him his blog sucks all the time [13:50]
Duffer1 i'll wait till he starts charging for it, then say it sucks so i can get cheaper price [13:51]
mircea_popescu lol [13:51]
mircea_popescu anyway, bekay : more data less opinion. opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. data is like cunt, everyone needs some. [13:51]
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mircea_popescu aww didn't mean to hurt his feelers ;/ [13:52]
Duffer1 hehe [13:52]
KRS1 ;;gettrust KRS1 [14:02]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask KRS1!~userid@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user KRS1 to user KRS1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=KRS1&dest=KRS1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=KRS1 | Rated since: never [14:02]
KRS1 hate starting over [14:03]
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KRS1 Ah sunrise here on the US east coast. Gonna go enjoy the fresh air with a cigarette. [14:04]
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zacm are we all ready for the morph into govcoin? https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1u89qv/why_the_nsa_revelations_make_me_worried_about_the/ [17:33]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395757.0 [17:33]
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mircea_popescu dude, some shit made some redditard worried ? [17:40]
mircea_popescu this is news. [17:40]
jcpham all my boxen were rooted when i got to work [17:44]
jcpham new year's hax [17:44]
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b0n1 someone here having some insight informations about black arrows prospero x-3 asics? [17:51]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.00324 = 0.162 BTC [+] [17:57]
mircea_popescu b0n1 you mean whether they'l;l be delayed ? [17:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 170 @ 0.001 = 0.17 BTC [17:58]
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asciilifeform http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault [18:02]
ozbot 'Military-Style' Raid on California Power Station Spooks U.S. [18:02]
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jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1u8c0r/if_you_own_3000_or_more_btc_wall_street_wants/ someone needs to send these people to #assets [19:45]
jurov although, i'm not sure wallst. babies would survive here :D [19:46]
ozbot If you own 3000 or more BTC, Wall Street wants your advice : Bitcoin [19:46]
mircea_popescu herpderp. [19:48]
mircea_popescu it'd be really hard to say "My name is Joe Schmoe and I've been working WS for 20 years" [19:49]
mircea_popescu it has to be anon. because people with actual jobs and actual histories behave exactly like redditards. it's redditrule. [19:50]
mircea_popescu i'm sure if bill gates introduces himself it's never "Hi, I'm Bill Gates, I used to own Microsoft". It's definitely "Hi I'm passionate about lasagna and I have a 20 year career in like computer stuff and such." [19:51]
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jurov and to valiantly fight cancer and aids [19:54]
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jurov http://www.businessinsider.com/a-celebrity-will-launch-their-own-coin-in-2014-2014-1 would this be acceptable on bitbet? [19:56]
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jurov it prolly needs to name the celebs [19:58]
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jurov aka "either kanye west or justin bieber will start altcoinz" [19:58]
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jurov lol too much for ozbot? [19:59]
mircea_popescu well at least identify the class. [19:59]
mircea_popescu "anyone with a platinum record" [19:59]
mircea_popescu "anyone with an oscar" [19:59]
mircea_popescu etc [19:59]
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jurov mhm [19:59]
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pankkake what about dr. dre? [20:00]
mircea_popescu course the problem will be some redditard will start a dr dre coin [20:00]
mircea_popescu and well... it's unlikely he'll get sued or anyone will actually care. [20:01]
jurov if must be officially endorsed by said celeb [20:01]
pankkake some retard started a bernanke coin so [20:01]
pankkake and it has serious hashpower [20:01]
mircea_popescu such as they make a twitter reply going "That;s hot" in responmse to the guy's @ ? [20:01]
mircea_popescu basically the problem of postmodernism is that words don't mean anything anymore ;/. [20:02]
mircea_popescu attempting to put them to some useful purpose is not much unlike trying to put computers to some useful purpose [20:02]
mircea_popescu as computers also long ceased doing anything particular, like say math. [20:03]
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mircea_popescu i guess i should start my own brand of buttermilk [20:04]
jurov http://www.forbes.com/celebrities/list/ seems useable for this [20:04]
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jurov the celebrity could create value for the currency by selling tickets in that currency << Ha. This needs to happen. [20:06]
mircea_popescu heh [20:08]
mircea_popescu as if sales aren't depressed enough [20:08]
mircea_popescu without adding absurd barriers [20:08]
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mircea_popescu lol the guy actually edited his reddit thing to include his name [20:16]
mircea_popescu well, so i guess it's time someone tells him about how the unclueless WS has been on assets all this time. [20:17]
mircea_popescu and he's welcome to join etc [20:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00090979 = 14.966 BTC [-] {3} [20:19]
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mike_c what would you get in rent for that? [20:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.001 = 1.5 BTC [20:37]
mike_c which is well above what a mortgage payment would cost. craziness. [20:40]
asciilifeform mike_c: where's the surprise? slaves get their food cheaper (free!) than free men [20:41]
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mike_c i am surprised that there is such a group of people that are qualified to rent a home for $700 a month but can't get a $70k mortgage. seems depressing, but I guess there are much worse things in the world. [20:43]
mike_c that's not realistic. would need to get money to fix it up [20:44]
mike_c more like 550 probably [20:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5086 @ 0.0009094 = 4.6252 BTC [-] [20:44]
asciilifeform mike_c: all you need to rent for 700 is 700x1 or 2 (security deposit) [20:47]
mike_c and a landlord who will take you. i guess if you're in the business of quick evictions you don't worry about reliability much. turnover is a bitch though. [20:48]
mike_c was that for the record? ;) [20:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.0009094 = 12.0041 BTC [-] [20:53]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.0028891 = 0.1127 BTC [-] {2} [21:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.00287205 = 0.3332 BTC [-] {4} [21:04]
nubbins` lel [21:04]
nubbins` pretty crazy scorch marks on the walls [21:04]
nubbins` from the heaters :0 [21:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04999999 = 0.15 BTC [+] [21:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.34985713 = 2.449 BTC [+] {4} [21:06]
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nubbins` yeah, i'm just surprised to see it [21:09]
nubbins` guess it's more the wallpaper than anything [21:10]
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westblc !help [21:11]
assbot List of commands: [21:11]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} [21:11]
assbot !last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} [21:11]
assbot !mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) [21:11]
assbot !rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} [21:11]
assbot !exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} [21:11]
assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) [21:11]
assbot !bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b} [21:11]
assbot !quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} [21:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 191 @ 0.0009094 = 0.1737 BTC [-] [21:12]
westblc !ticker MPEX BTC [21:12]
assbot Quest for vision is a great blessing. [21:12]
westblc !ticker MPEX LTC [21:12]
assbot I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word. [21:12]
mircea_popescu !t m s.mpoe [21:12]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00090583 / 0.000913 / 0.00092376 (946189 shares, 863.87 BTC), 7D: 0.0007653 / 0.00087744 / 0.00092376 (5331526 shares, 4,678.14 BTC), 30D: 0.00062972 / 0.00087587 / 0.00092376 (19902934 shares, 17,432.58 BTC) [21:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4936 @ 0.00090858 = 4.4848 BTC [-] {2} [21:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5746 @ 0.00090847 = 5.2201 BTC [-] [21:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 90 @ 0.001899 = 0.1709 BTC [+] [21:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.0000988 = 0.494 BTC [+] [21:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00091135 = 10.3438 BTC [+] {2} [21:54]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 199 @ 0.00320431 = 0.6377 BTC [+] {6} [22:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 754 @ 0.00327973 = 2.4729 BTC [+] {4} [22:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.00330876 = 3.3088 BTC [+] {11} [22:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00333193 = 0.1533 BTC [+] {3} [22:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2852 @ 0.0009148 = 2.609 BTC [+] [22:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 35754 @ 0.001 = 35.754 BTC [22:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6007 @ 0.00009886 = 0.5939 BTC [+] {2} [22:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00091346 = 0.3197 BTC [-] [22:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00343688 = 0.3059 BTC [+] {4} [23:24]
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jurov http://www.coinyewest.com/ ohmydawg... [23:32]
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wao-ender yeah [23:36]
wao-ender also slovak article about CYE is out [23:36]
wao-ender :D [23:36]
jurov wao right, gotta have your priorities [23:37]
wao-ender :D [23:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1681 @ 0.00091277 = 1.5344 BTC [-] [23:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00091276 = 9.4927 BTC [-] {2} [23:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17852 @ 0.00091169 = 16.2755 BTC [-] {2} [23:56]
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