Forum logs for 03 Jan 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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| didlySquat | anybody know when the BitBet monthly staement will come out? | [00:07] |
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| jurov | didlySquat: should come out till 5th | [00:17] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00342402 = 0.1096 BTC [-] | [00:17] |
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| jurov | also S.MPOE divs should come imminent | [00:18] |
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| jurov | if they aren't deprecated :D | [00:18] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.0009148 = 4.8027 BTC [+] | [00:19] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 34461 @ 0.001 = 34.461 BTC | [00:37] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00091067 = 3.0963 BTC [-] | [00:42] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00091067 = 5.2819 BTC [-] | [00:50] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00090907 = 41.3627 BTC [-] {8} | [01:01] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8548 @ 0.00091081 = 7.7856 BTC [+] | [01:05] |
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| asciilifeform | http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm#anchor1234 | [01:17] |
| ozbot | Livermore's Centennial Light Bulb Cam | [01:17] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00090946 = 4.1835 BTC [-] | [01:28] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2} | [01:30] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00090988 = 9.0988 BTC [+] {2} | [01:37] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.020005 = 0.16 BTC [-] {4} | [02:01] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] | [02:01] |
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| KRS1 | hah https://zerogox.com | [02:12] |
| twizt | no bullshit | [02:18] |
| twizt | lol | [02:18] |
| twizt | prolly lotta bullshit | [02:18] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00345 = 0.1173 BTC [+] | [02:28] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-] | [02:29] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00090778 = 5.7644 BTC [-] {2} | [02:57] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.34625 = 1.385 BTC [+] {4} | [02:57] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.001 = 0.4 BTC | [03:29] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23362 @ 0.00090942 = 21.2459 BTC [+] {2} | [03:31] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00090732 = 10.9786 BTC [-] {2} | [03:49] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00090695 = 7.8905 BTC [-] {2} | [03:52] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6963 @ 0.00090656 = 6.3124 BTC [-] {2} | [03:56] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05 = 0.55 BTC [+] | [04:05] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.0000989 = 0.989 BTC [-] | [04:11] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC [+] | [04:12] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8421 @ 0.00009899 = 0.8336 BTC [+] | [04:13] |
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| jborkl | http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/02/kanye-west-now-has-his-own-cryptocurrency-and-its-called-coinye-west/ | [04:19] |
| ozbot | Kanye West Cryptocurrency Coinye West Like Bitcoin | TIME.com | [04:19] |
| jborkl | :( | [04:19] |
| * | TomServo groans. | [04:20] |
| TomServo | Wasn't a bet on this topic being discussed just a few hours ago? | [04:21] |
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| TomServo | jurov | aka "either kanye west or justin bieber will start altcoinz" | [04:23] |
| TomServo | oh man. that's too good. | [04:23] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7684 @ 0.00090666 = 6.9668 BTC [+] | [04:25] |
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| mircea_popescu | of course... there's absolutely no relation between the two | [04:27] |
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| asciilifeform | big fat prize (from the god of war, not from yours truly) to the first fellow who gets idiots to run a trojaned trading bot. | [04:33] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.0009063 = 6.8426 BTC [-] | [04:33] |
| asciilifeform | (re: 'zerogox') | [04:33] |
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| mircea_popescu | im sure this must have already happened | [04:40] |
| mircea_popescu | all the "magic trading profits bot" stuff on the forum going on for 1+ years by now ? there's no way it hasn't. | [04:41] |
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| KRS1 | zerogox.com ...seems legit | [04:45] |
| KRS1 | where do i sign up | [04:45] |
| KRS1 | ;;lasers | [04:45] |
| gribble | ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* | [04:45] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00090889 = 10.4522 BTC [+] {2} | [04:46] |
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| KRS1 | *sniff* Cartier cologne reminds me of lemons | [04:47] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC [+] | [04:47] |
| testingUnoDosTre | How many BTC can I get for a snickers? | [04:49] |
| mircea_popescu | testingUnoDosTre wrong year. | [04:50] |
| testingUnoDosTre | femtoBTC? | [04:51] |
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| testingUnoDosTre | mircea, I did not expect you to be alive in this thread, being my first time here | [04:52] |
| kakobrekla | !b 1 | [04:53] |
| assbot | Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1534397/plain/) | [04:53] |
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| testingUnoDosTre | scratch that thought, I was sent here from your twitter page | [04:57] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00090596 = 12.5022 BTC [-] {5} | [04:57] |
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| kakobrekla | there is no ctrl-z on irc | [05:01] |
| mircea_popescu | testingUnoDosTre a, you the reddit guy ? | [05:01] |
| kakobrekla | unlike forums, twitters, facebooks and skypes | [05:02] |
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| testingUnoDosTre | No, I try to stay far away from reddit. Used to frequent battle.net though | [05:03] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.05 = 0.95 BTC [+] | [05:04] |
| mircea_popescu | that's interesting. anyway, welcome. there's about 1mn btc represented here, tho most people are not nearly as verbose as me. | [05:04] |
| mircea_popescu | your essential reading, other than the channel log, is modestly http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/ and perhaps http://trilema.com/category/mpex/ | [05:04] |
| testingUnoDosTre | Yes, your websites are far greater reads than the bitcointalk subforums | [05:05] |
| mircea_popescu | i should hope so :D | [05:07] |
| Duffer1 | reading bitcointalk is a lot like digging for gold in a sewer | [05:07] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: lame bots that merely lift wallets don't count | [05:08] |
| asciilifeform | gotta bomb the market, induce oscillatory panics, other fun. | [05:08] |
| kakobrekla | [05:08] | |
| kakobrekla | this? | [05:08] |
| kakobrekla | must be extra easy | [05:08] |
| asciilifeform | right | [05:08] |
| mircea_popescu | yeah, right, because bitcoin is so fragile one man and his genius can fuck it all up. | [05:09] |
| mircea_popescu | wrong year all over again | [05:09] |
| asciilifeform | no need to fuck it all up, any more than one nuke needs to demolish a whole planet to be worth setting off... | [05:10] |
| testingUnoDosTre | I would love to see some of the originally mined bitcoins moved around, just to see some reaction by the market. | [05:10] |
| kakobrekla | there was a huge spike in bitcoin days destroyed | [05:11] |
| kakobrekla | couple of days ago | [05:11] |
| kakobrekla | maybe a week? | [05:11] |
| asciilifeform | testingUnoDosTre: there was a rumory mubling that a few 100K of circa-2010 (?) coins moved, but no one linked to hard data. | [05:11] |
| kakobrekla | and guess what, we are still here | [05:11] |
| testingUnoDosTre | Isn't there about 1 million coins in some of the original accounts? | [05:11] |
| mircea_popescu | a little under that | [05:12] |
| testingUnoDosTre | or sum* | [05:12] |
| kakobrekla | i guess about same amount is alo lost. | [05:12] |
| kakobrekla | also | [05:12] |
| mircea_popescu | kakobrekla wasn't that the reddit guru what's his name, fantomas or something doing a max keiser ? | [05:12] |
| asciilifeform | traditional belief seems to be that 'they lost their hdd' | [05:12] |
| kakobrekla | mircea_popescu i dont have any info on that | [05:12] |
| testingUnoDosTre | and what's the total US federal government ownership, 150k? | [05:13] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 185 @ 0.0029827 = 0.5518 BTC [+] {3} | [05:13] |
| mircea_popescu | testingUnoDosTre a little over that by now | [05:13] |
| asciilifeform | not counting der fuhrer's miners? | [05:13] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 35000 @ 0.001 = 35 BTC | [05:14] |
| testingUnoDosTre | that will probably go down as the most profitable asset ever seized by the US govt | [05:14] |
| asciilifeform | i'll break out some evil rumor right here now: | [05:15] |
| asciilifeform | there are tor exits silently pumping ascii through 'sed' or the like, slipping 'friendly' btc addrs in place of originals. | [05:15] |
| asciilifeform | not naming names. | [05:15] |
| asciilifeform | take it with a grain of whatever. | [05:16] |
| kakobrekla | yeah, well there was a desktop version of such malware which would replace the address once you put one valid in clipboard | [05:17] |
| asciilifeform | people using winblows and btc together should also smoke at petrol pumps | [05:17] |
| kakobrekla | i have tiny unencrypted wallet on my win laptop. | [05:18] |
| kakobrekla | i bet its the first to go in case of shit. | [05:18] |
| mircea_popescu | no they shouldn't. | [05:18] |
| mircea_popescu | you have any idea what a pump costs ? | [05:18] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: point | [05:18] |
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| mircea_popescu | let them buy their own propane canisters or w/e | [05:19] |
| mircea_popescu | and go camping | [05:19] |
| asciilifeform | kakobrekla: 'if (total < 1.0) exit(0)' | [05:19] |
| kakobrekla | its more than 1 and less than 10 | [05:19] |
| kakobrekla | but yeah | [05:19] |
| kakobrekla | i know what you are saying | [05:20] |
| kakobrekla | but who will turn down the change | [05:20] |
| kakobrekla | in reality, noone | [05:20] |
| kakobrekla | except the change that is hard to get off | [05:20] |
| kakobrekla | because of tx fees | [05:20] |
| kakobrekla | [this happpend before] | [05:20] |
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| asciilifeform | this is why i don't really have any ill-will for crapware artists. they should be seen as educators. | [05:23] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8134 @ 0.00090573 = 7.3672 BTC [-] {2} | [05:23] |
| testingUnoDosTre | you're saying its much more hard to keep btc safe on windows? | [05:26] |
| kakobrekla | windows is like open lobby | [05:29] |
| kakobrekla | if they are safe there, there is a good chance they are safe elsewhere :) | [05:30] |
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| testingUnoDosTre | you lost my on open lobby, is that some xbox reference? | [05:32] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC | [05:33] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 119 @ 0.00298886 = 0.3557 BTC [+] {3} | [05:35] |
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| testingUnoDosTre | couldn't I be just as damaging on linux while dealing btc as with windows? | [05:38] |
| kakobrekla | you? maybe. me? no. | [05:38] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 385 @ 0.001 = 0.385 BTC | [05:39] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.353999 BTC [+] | [05:39] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00090715 = 5.1708 BTC [+] | [05:42] |
| mod6 | (19:17) < asciilifeform> people using winblows and btc together should also smoke at petrol pumps << lol | [05:46] |
| kakobrekla | you know | [05:49] |
| kakobrekla | smoking at petrol pump is not as dangerous as it sounds | [05:49] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22402 @ 0.00090743 = 20.3282 BTC [+] {4} | [05:53] |
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| testingUnoDosTre | mircea, can you expound on your Marie Antoinette post | [06:00] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00091001 = 12.5581 BTC [+] {3} | [06:01] |
| mircea_popescu | um | [06:03] |
| mircea_popescu | what's to expound | [06:04] |
| mircea_popescu | kakobrekla you seen those "try and light this gasoline with this ciggarete" things ? | [06:04] |
| kakobrekla | well dunno what i saw, i just know its not really easy | [06:05] |
| kakobrekla | besides, theres no bangs coming from bosnia, serbia ... | [06:05] |
| kakobrekla | and they do have petrol stations there, i know that for a fact. | [06:05] |
| testingUnoDosTre | Well at first, it touches on social revolutions in a negative light.Then the article seems to talk about revolution of self towards the end | [06:07] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.02188996 = 0.4597 BTC [+] | [06:08] |
| Duffer1 | i think the point was 'kill yourself because nothing you do matters' | [06:09] |
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| Duffer1 | at least, that's what i took from it | [06:09] |
| Duffer1 | don't read too much into it man :P | [06:10] |
| kakobrekla | yeah, or you will end up smoking ciggs on petrol stations. | [06:10] |
| Duffer1 | or wishing you were a lone young chick on a train... | [06:11] |
| testingUnoDosTre | we only have petrol-corn stations in the US now | [06:12] |
| kakobrekla | so you end up with a lot of popcorn if the thing goes bang? | [06:12] |
| testingUnoDosTre | yummy | [06:13] |
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| testingUnoDosTre | you must not live in the Midwest? | [06:18] |
| testingUnoDosTre | No, I thought that everyone was slipping in under 10% lately | [06:23] |
| testingUnoDosTre | could definitely be wrong though | [06:23] |
| mircea_popescu | kakobrekla it;s true that gasoline as a liquid will not catch on fire | [06:25] |
| mircea_popescu | but happily extinguish your ciggarette, like water. | [06:26] |
| mircea_popescu | as a vapor however... | [06:26] |
| kakobrekla | yep | [06:26] |
| kakobrekla | but as vapor you need the right mixture | [06:26] |
| kakobrekla | also im not sure if a lit cigg will do for vapor | [06:26] |
| mircea_popescu | to explode. it will burn at pretty much any concentration | [06:26] |
| kakobrekla | i think you need open light | [06:26] |
| mircea_popescu | arguably some combos are not too visible | [06:27] |
| mircea_popescu | testingUnoDosTre it's a film. you seen it ? | [06:28] |
| mircea_popescu | kakobrekla well... if panacea ever goes negative you can do some experiments :D | [06:29] |
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| testingUnoDosTre | I thought the post was touching more on history than the movie. I did understand that it was a film, but no I have not seen it. | [06:30] |
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| mircea_popescu | try it sometime. the missus will love you for it. | [06:33] |
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| kakobrekla | mircea_popescu im sure there will be negative months, but i would dissolve way before negative nav | [06:47] |
| kakobrekla | so i think someone else will have to to the experiments | [06:47] |
| kakobrekla | perhaps write to alberto armandi | [06:48] |
| kakobrekla | and LEAVE MY ALBERTO ALONE | [06:48] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.35399597 = 1.77 BTC [-] {4} | [06:50] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00090509 = 4.1182 BTC [-] | [06:50] |
| mircea_popescu | lol | [06:51] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 196 @ 0.0029889 = 0.5858 BTC [+] | [06:52] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00298952 = 0.1435 BTC [+] {2} | [06:59] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 260 @ 0.001 = 0.26 BTC | [07:14] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00090536 = 7.0165 BTC [+] | [07:23] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30430 @ 0.00091137 = 27.733 BTC [+] {5} | [07:24] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00091488 = 14.0892 BTC [+] {2} | [07:26] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15186 @ 0.0009093 = 13.8086 BTC [-] {2} | [07:31] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.354 BTC [+] | [07:34] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1900 @ 0.001 = 1.9 BTC | [08:07] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00090509 = 4.1634 BTC [-] | [08:16] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00090882 = 1.7268 BTC [+] | [08:26] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4000 @ 0.001 = 4 BTC | [08:31] |
| * | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [13:35] |
| * | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading | [13:35] |
| * | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013 | [13:35] |
| mircea_popescu | .d | [13:35] |
| ozbot | 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1811 blocks | Estimated Change: -1.2611% in 12d 17h 34m 23s | [13:35] |
| mircea_popescu | a negative ? that's a rare sight. | [13:35] |
| kakobrekla | too small sample size eh | [13:36] |
| mircea_popescu | ~200 blocks | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu | not that small, is it ? | [13:37] |
| kakobrekla | a little over a day | [13:38] |
| kakobrekla | 1% is in range id say | [13:38] |
| kakobrekla | maybe it non americans mining | [13:39] |
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| kakobrekla | its* | [13:39] |
| kakobrekla | running low on luck. | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu | but wait, a retarget is every 2100 blocks or so. | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu | this is like 10-15%, it's a sample. | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu | it SEEMS like a little over a day, but in fact it has been two days + doing the work of 30 hours | [13:41] |
| kakobrekla | must be europeans then | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu | http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-10k.png | [13:43] |
| mircea_popescu | looks more like normal noise really. | [13:43] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3799 BTC [-] | [13:46] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00090999 = 19.9288 BTC [-] {2} | [13:51] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.0029 = 0.3132 BTC [-] | [13:54] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 327 @ 0.00288506 = 0.9434 BTC [-] {2} | [13:55] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 190 @ 0.00287156 = 0.5456 BTC [-] {3} | [13:56] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00091453 = 9.7397 BTC [+] {2} | [13:59] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.05 = 0.35 BTC [+] | [14:06] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 476 @ 0.05 = 23.8 BTC [+] | [14:10] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3799 = 1.1397 BTC [-] | [14:11] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.0035 = 0.196 BTC [+] {2} | [14:14] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 350 @ 0.0035 = 1.225 BTC [+] | [14:15] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00091418 = 22.5802 BTC [-] {4} | [14:30] |
| VanCleef | why are people buying am? | [14:31] |
| mircea_popescu | coupla bitcoins can do anything. | [14:31] |
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| kakobrekla | aeshits and jiggles | [14:35] |
| kakobrekla | http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg4287591#msg4287591 | [14:35] |
| ozbot | BitBillions GBBG | [14:35] |
| kakobrekla | -ae | [14:35] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.38275 = 1.1483 BTC [+] {3} | [14:39] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0035 = 0.3675 BTC [+] {3} | [14:41] |
| Duffer1 | how is that not a pyramid scheme and how has it been around for almost a year? | [14:41] |
| Duffer1 | what the shit | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu | Duffer1 it's there for comedy relief | [14:42] |
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| mircea_popescu | it's been there for almost a year because nobody [of any import] was stupid enough. | [14:42] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00353492 = 0.1591 BTC [+] {4} | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu | a scam without any passive can last indefinitely. | [14:42] |
| Duffer1 | amazing | [14:43] |
| assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [14:43] |
| Duffer1 | indeed assbot, indeed | [14:43] |
| kakobrekla | http://coingen.io | [14:54] |
| ozbot | Coingen | [14:54] |
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| Duffer1 | brb mila kunis coin | [14:59] |
| Duffer1 | am idoing this right? | [14:59] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 4.62550000 BTC to 7`975`000 shares, 58 satoshi per share | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu | Mila Cunny's Koin | [15:00] |
| Duffer1 | am i ritch yet? | [15:00] |
| mircea_popescu | you're ricole nitchie. | [15:02] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust BW^- | [15:02] |
| gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user BW^-: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=BW^- | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BW^- | Rated since: never | [15:02] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00091291 = 19.8101 BTC [-] | [15:03] |
| Duffer1 | erf | [15:04] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 58863 @ 0.00009497 = 5.5902 BTC [+] {2} | [15:09] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.39881815 = 4.387 BTC [+] {4} | [15:10] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.395 = 1.58 BTC [-] | [15:11] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.4 = 4.4 BTC [+] {2} | [15:12] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.40128316 = 2.4077 BTC [+] {6} | [15:13] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [+] {2} | [15:15] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00369945 = 0.4032 BTC [+] {4} | [15:16] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [+] | [15:16] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.401 = 2.406 BTC [-] {2} | [15:23] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-] | [15:24] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-] | [15:25] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.409 BTC [+] | [15:29] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00399473 = 0.7989 BTC [+] {5} | [15:32] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 269 @ 0.00417361 = 1.1227 BTC [+] {3} | [15:33] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00434468 = 0.2607 BTC [+] {5} | [15:34] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.40000002 BTC [-] | [15:36] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44047 @ 0.00091515 = 40.3096 BTC [+] {5} | [15:36] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8232 @ 0.0009165 = 7.5446 BTC [+] | [15:37] |
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| Duffer1 | well done MP from hot slut to granny squirts in 7 words | [15:42] |
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| mircea_popescu | Duffer1 dja find it believable ? | [15:45] |
| Duffer1 | not done yet | [15:45] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.0009165 = 5.6365 BTC [+] | [15:51] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.41 = 1.23 BTC [+] | [15:55] |
| Duffer1 | the pretext for the poundings seemed a bit far fetched | [15:56] |
| Duffer1 | but perhaps fitting for the timeline the story exists in | [15:56] |
| mircea_popescu | fiction'd better fetch afar or else why am i reading it even | [15:57] |
| Duffer1 | am actually curious why you're writing it | [15:58] |
| Duffer1 | the erotica i mean | [15:58] |
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| mircea_popescu | i can | [15:59] |
| Duffer1 | i agree | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu | so it'd seem i invented a dish. fried chicken livers in onions with a side of basmati and mild mango chutney | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu | this thing rocks | [16:00] |
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| ThickAsThieves | PAUL KRUGMAN: Bitcoin's Value Is Driven By The Fact That It Sounds Impressive | [16:02] |
| ThickAsThieves | lol | [16:02] |
| ThickAsThieves | http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-trader-job-2014-1 | [16:03] |
| ozbot | Bitcoin Trader Job - Business Insider | [16:03] |
| Duffer1 | that only proves to me that he's trying to drive the price down to get cheaper coin | [16:03] |
| Duffer1 | i don't see why else he'd still be talking about it | [16:03] |
| ThickAsThieves | his job is to get views i assume | [16:04] |
| mircea_popescu | ahahahaha | [16:04] |
| mircea_popescu | EPIC! Man whose value is driven by the fact that he sounds impressive comments on the mother of all value. | [16:04] |
| ThickAsThieves | but the irony of the headline... | [16:04] |
| mircea_popescu | this is the story of the cat that looked at a mirror and decided the mirror is the painting of a cat. | [16:04] |
| ThickAsThieves | NEWSFLASH: Bitcoin Doing Well Cuz It's a Good Idea | [16:05] |
| mircea_popescu | ono but how could this be!1!11 | [16:06] |
| mircea_popescu | pls our lady of teh governments save us in this our hour of need! we can not live in a world where even a single good idea still draws breath | [16:06] |
| ThickAsThieves | Here's Why Good Things Are Bad #READMYBLOG | [16:06] |
| mircea_popescu | we are the stupid! the many! | [16:06] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+] | [16:07] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02179999 = 0.109 BTC [+] | [16:10] |
| ThickAsThieves | ;;estimate | [16:16] |
| gribble | Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 1491769001.38 based on data for last three days | [16:16] |
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| mircea_popescu | pankkake say, if i want to hedge my exposure to your coin, can i use a hedgdoge ? | [16:19] |
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| Duffer1 | instantrimshot.com | [16:19] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.41 = 1.23 BTC [+] | [16:21] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 866 @ 0.0018633 = 1.6136 BTC [-] {7} | [16:30] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 122 @ 0.001 = 0.122 BTC | [16:32] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.415 BTC [+] | [16:33] |
| topace | has there been some good asicminer news lately? price seems to be increasing | [16:33] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.41666333 = 1.25 BTC [+] {2} | [16:34] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42488999 BTC [+] | [16:36] |
| ThickAsThieves | i think it just bottomed out | [16:39] |
| ThickAsThieves | and people realized no one was sellign anymore | [16:39] |
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| Duffer1 | asicminer | [16:42] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.42827523 = 7.2807 BTC [+] {4} | [16:42] |
| VanCleef | its a death trap | [16:45] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00091155 = 21.2847 BTC [-] {2} | [16:50] |
| VanCleef | havelockinvestments.com? | [16:52] |
| Duffer1 | havelock is a passthrough | [16:52] |
| topace | it isnt traded anywhere officially | [16:54] |
| topace | the only place to trade it is a passthru | [16:54] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0495 = 0.495 BTC [-] | [16:54] |
| VanCleef | don't make it more confusing topace | [16:54] |
| topace | heh | [16:55] |
| topace | its not confusing at all | [16:55] |
| topace | you have "direct shares" held with friedcat, or you have shares held on exchanges via passthru's | [16:55] |
| topace | the passthru operators hold the direct shares | [16:55] |
| VanCleef | i'm scared | [16:55] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.437757 BTC [+] | [16:55] |
| * | VanCleef sells everything | [16:55] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.421 BTC [-] | [17:08] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.421 BTC [-] | [17:16] |
| rbonestell | I'm still looking for beta testers for myHavelock, an Android app for monitoring your Havelock Investments portfolio! | [17:16] |
| VanCleef | i only use drones | [17:17] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22299 @ 0.00091151 = 20.3258 BTC [-] {2} | [17:24] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 68.25110960 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 13 satoshi per share | [17:31] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13955 @ 0.0009104 = 12.7046 BTC [-] {2} | [17:35] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42000001 BTC [-] | [17:37] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.41700001 = 0.834 BTC [-] {2} | [17:38] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1550 @ 0.000094 = 0.1457 BTC [-] | [17:39] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42000001 BTC [+] | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu | kakobrekla http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-december-2013-statement/ | [17:49] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.41400001 = 4.968 BTC [-] {3} | [17:49] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41400002 BTC [+] | [17:52] |
| TomServo | mircea_popescu: Can you elaborate on the "social shyness of the gold standard" ? | [17:52] |
| mircea_popescu | back when sound money was a thing, middle class males spent their first three decades in their parent;s house and were generally unable to talk to strangers throughout their lives. | [17:53] |
| mircea_popescu | these two may be unrelated. then again, maybe not. who's to know ? | [17:54] |
| mircea_popescu | some people with nary a financial interest in the world do keep a keen eye to see what of the old time bitcoin brings back. it's really an anthropology goldmine first and foremost. | [17:54] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10485 @ 0.00091204 = 9.5627 BTC [+] | [17:57] |
| TomServo | Interesting. Thanks. | [17:57] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.43 = 1.29 BTC [+] | [17:58] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44164 @ 0.00090918 = 40.153 BTC [-] {5} | [18:04] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 20498 @ 0.001 = 20.498 BTC | [18:05] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.43483777 = 0.8697 BTC [+] {2} | [18:09] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.436325 = 0.8727 BTC [+] {2} | [18:10] |
| ArsKisS | omg | [18:10] |
| ArsKisS | they actually bought 1,5m seedcoin | [18:10] |
| BW^- | If anyone here is interested in making profit on your fiat in a Bitcoin-industry business, open conversation with me. | [18:10] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.437757 = 3.0643 BTC [+] {2} | [18:11] |
| ArsKisS | does that mean I get fiat or bitcoin? | [18:11] |
| BW^- | arskiss: fiat! | [18:11] |
| ArsKisS | if I win in your lottery | [18:11] |
| ArsKisS | but what do I do with that :O | [18:11] |
| Duffer1 | it means you get shit on | [18:11] |
| BW^- | arskiss,duffer1: fiat in, more fiat out. through turning over bitcoins. | [18:11] |
| BW^- | arskiss: pay rent, food, clothes (currently) | [18:12] |
| BW^- | i mean, material things | [18:12] |
| Duffer1 | ............................... | [18:12] |
| BW^- | perhaps buy more bitcoins | [18:12] |
| ArsKisS | lol | [18:12] |
| ArsKisS | why dont i pay them with bitcoins? | [18:12] |
| BW^- | arskiss: good Q. | [18:12] |
| ArsKisS | anyway, I dont participate scams. have a nice day | [18:12] |
| Duffer1 | ;;gpg ident BW^ | [18:13] |
| gribble | Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. | [18:13] |
| BW^- | anyhow, if there is a prospective interest in making more fiat out of fiat through turning over Bitcoin, I would be very happy to talk | [18:13] |
| BW^- | Duffer1: mircea was kind to ask me for a WOT | [18:13] |
| BW^- | i saw that database before | [18:13] |
| BW^- | but | [18:13] |
| Duffer1 | ;;gpg ident BW^- | [18:13] |
| gribble | Nick 'BW^-', with hostmask 'BW^-!~Miranda@unaffiliated/bw-/x-2460362', is not identified. | [18:13] |
| BW^- | and also its page. how do i register? | [18:13] |
| BW^- | duffer1: I'm in Sweden and I visit mircea's city quite frequently. | [18:13] |
| Duffer1 | ;;google web of trust | [18:13] |
| gribble | Safe Browsing Tool | WOT (Web of Trust): |
[18:13] |
| BW^- | feel free to add me on Skype, Facebook, etc. if you want a quick path to some sense of trust now. | [18:13] |
| mircea_popescu | dude, you're running the wrong direction | [18:14] |
| BW^- | duffer1: also I circulated on FreeNode with this nick for something like 3-4 years now. | [18:14] |
| mircea_popescu | people aren't here because they don't know what facebook is or can't find some dollars. | [18:14] |
| mircea_popescu | people are here because they despise those things. | [18:14] |
| mircea_popescu | if yhou imagine a facebook page "adds trust" you should be on reddit. | [18:14] |
| asciilifeform | http://cryptome.org/2014/01/parastoo-pge-metcalf.htm | [18:16] |
| asciilifeform | no phalse phlag is complete without one of these! | [18:16] |
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| mircea_popescu | derp | [18:17] |
| BW^- | mircea: mm | [18:18] |
| mircea_popescu | "LOOKS CLOSER AND THE CORRUPT BACKWARD RULING PRINCES OF AN OIL-RICH DESERT FIND MORE MUTUAL BENEFIT FROM" | [18:18] |
| BW^- | arskiss,duffer1: there were no followup Q:s so I guess this means that's not your thing | [18:18] |
| mircea_popescu | such clinical. very by the book. much psych. | [18:18] |
| Duffer1 | it sounds like it shouldn't be anyone's thing | [18:18] |
| asciilifeform | i'd love to see the perl script this came out of! | [18:18] |
| kakobrekla | BW^- lurk moar | [18:18] |
| BW^- | mircea: what does your MPEx do? | [18:19] |
| BW^- | kakobrekla: what's a moar? | [18:19] |
| mircea_popescu | it makes me spend my fucking days writing reports, apparently. | [18:19] |
| asciilifeform | in other news, dell corp. joins the denial chorus: http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/direct2dell/b/direct2dell/archive/2013/12/30/comment-on-der-spiegel-article-regarding-nsa-tao-organization.aspx | [18:19] |
| BingoBoingo | BW^-: Have you tried your pitch in -otc or -dev yet? | [18:20] |
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| BW^- | bingoboingo: nope! in -otc may be relevant. | [18:21] |
| BW^- | -dev not so much | [18:21] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167 @ 0.00091204 = 0.1523 BTC [+] | [18:21] |
| BingoBoingo | I hear people in both those channels could always use more fiat | [18:21] |
| kakobrekla | and #btctc, #bitfunder, #glbse | [18:21] |
| BW^- | bingoboingo: super! | [18:21] |
| BW^- | indeed, "#bitcoin-assets" is pretty clear about that the Bitcoin is the asset :)))) | [18:21] |
| kakobrekla | also #btcst | [18:21] |
| BW^- | and nothing else | [18:21] |
| BW^- | kakobrekla: super thanks! | [18:22] |
| kakobrekla | yw! | [18:22] |
| BingoBoingo | Oh good recommendation BW^- Also do #btcst and #labcoin | [18:22] |
| mircea_popescu | haters, the lot of you. | [18:24] |
| BW^- | aha #btcst needs invitation | [18:24] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43777499 BTC [+] | [18:24] |
| pankkake | BW^-: yeah should be renamed #bitcoin-asset | [18:24] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [18:24] |
| gribble | MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 871.0, Best ask: 874.999, Bid-ask spread: 3.99900, Last trade: 871.0, 24 hour volume: 16209.42453216, 24 hour low: 820.56318, 24 hour high: 888.8, 24 hour vwap: 859.64173 | [18:24] |
| kakobrekla | eh? | [18:24] |
| kakobrekla | oh. | [18:25] |
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| kakobrekla | nvm. | [18:25] |
| Duffer1 | just bitter | [18:25] |
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| Duffer1 | though i have made it a new years resolution to chill on the hating | [18:26] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.437776 = 0.8756 BTC [+] {2} | [18:27] |
| * | truffles hasnt made any resolutions yet | [18:29] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44776 BTC [+] | [18:30] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.0045 = 0.333 BTC [+] | [18:35] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1790 @ 0.00091645 = 1.6404 BTC [+] | [18:35] |
| kakobrekla | mircea_popescu signed | [18:40] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4477699 BTC [+] | [18:43] |
| BingoBoingo | This story seems like it might be related to Obama's magic tempest tent http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/18/exclusive_how_diplomacy_helped_cause_an_f_18_crash | [18:44] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00449999 = 0.18 BTC [-] {2} | [18:44] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.447769 BTC [-] | [18:45] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.44776999 = 1.3433 BTC [+] {2} | [18:50] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.0009171 = 17.8376 BTC [+] {4} | [18:54] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00448999 = 0.1347 BTC [-] | [19:02] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 2.01767224 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 67 satoshi per share | [19:02] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 614 @ 0.001 = 0.614 BTC [-] {3} | [19:03] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5012 @ 0.001 = 5.012 BTC [-] {2} | [19:06] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3104 @ 0.001 = 3.104 BTC [-] | [19:10] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 27940 @ 0.001 = 27.94 BTC [-] | [19:11] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11643 @ 0.00091616 = 10.6669 BTC [-] {2} | [19:13] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00410061 = 0.1517 BTC [-] {4} | [19:14] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.05 = 1.2 BTC [+] | [19:15] |
| mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/snsa-december-2013-statement/ | [19:17] |
| ozbot | S.NSA, December 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [19:17] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 802 @ 0.001 = 0.802 BTC [-] {2} | [19:18] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [19:19] |
| gribble | Time since last block: 25 minutes and 47 seconds | [19:19] |
| mircea_popescu | 3 blocks the past hour | [19:19] |
| mircea_popescu | it's almost as if the hash had fallen from under the network. | [19:19] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4507 @ 0.00090985 = 4.1007 BTC [-] | [19:20] |
| mircea_popescu | .d | [19:20] |
| ozbot | 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1770 blocks | Estimated Change: 2.5876% in 11d 22h 54m 36s | [19:20] |
| ThickAsThieves | hashin aint ez | [19:24] |
| mircea_popescu | 41 blocks over the past 345 minutes. i guess it's about there. | [19:24] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.44774898 = 1.3432 BTC [-] | [19:27] |
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| mircea_popescu | im sure glad i'm not here at some eatery among unfriendly ozarks people waiting for my payment to clear tho | [19:29] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [19:29] |
| gribble | Time since last block: 35 minutes and 40 seconds | [19:29] |
| mircea_popescu | it could have been a rather tough half hour. | [19:29] |
| BingoBoingo | I'm looking at the Pirate Ponzi filings on PACER and it looks like we can add being a deadbeat to things Mr. Shavers sucks at in addition to all of the other things in his fail pile | [19:33] |
| mircea_popescu | i thought this was well established ? something new there ? | [19:34] |
| BingoBoingo | Well, he acknowledged his summons, and now has his fingers in his ears. This was a civil case. The time to evade, ignore, and avoid service was with the summons. | [19:35] |
| mircea_popescu | a a | [19:37] |
| mircea_popescu | he had a lengthy history of dubious relations with basically unfuckworthy women, is more of what i had in mind | [19:38] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00091402 = 6.7637 BTC [+] | [19:51] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.421042 BTC [-] | [19:54] |
| plambert | mircea_popescu: it looks like you put shipping under "intangible assets", why is it not just an "expense"? | [19:55] |
| asciilifeform | plambert: how would you value 'getting the damned assembly going 3 days sooner' ? | [19:56] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.421042 = 3.3683 BTC [-] | [19:56] |
| asciilifeform | that'd be 'intangible asset,' no? | [19:56] |
| BingoBoingo | I've submitted the BitBet and sent a bit to fund yes. I dunno if him getting substantial jailtime in his criminal case later this month would help or hurt the chances of yes winning. | [19:56] |
| ThickAsThieves | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212490.msg4283648#msg4283648 | [19:58] |
| ozbot | The Holy Grail I wish I could kiss the author of Bitmessage on his face. | [19:58] |
| ThickAsThieves | bunch of updates to open transaction | [19:58] |
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| ThickAsThieves | with some decent video walkthroughs | [19:58] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3375 @ 0.001 = 3.375 BTC [-] | [19:59] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.05 = 3 BTC [+] | [19:59] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 178 @ 0.001 = 0.178 BTC [-] {2} | [20:00] |
| mircea_popescu | plambert it is an expense | [20:02] |
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| mircea_popescu | the idea being that expenses a company makes may either result in tangible or intangible goods, these being terms of art and defined in the original standard | [20:02] |
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| mircea_popescu | id est, http://trilema.com/2013/accounting-for-the-nonzero-asset-corporation-the-mpex-standard/ | [20:03] |
| mircea_popescu | http://bitbet.us/bet/517/bfl-will-deliver-28nm-before-jan-6-2014/ | [20:04] |
| ozbot | BitBet - BFL will deliver 28nm before Jan 6 2014 | [20:04] |
| mircea_popescu | this is so eerie | [20:04] |
| mircea_popescu | what will 2020 bring, i wonder, "bfl will deliver android sex bots" ? | [20:04] |
| mircea_popescu | after all they can bfl-deliver anything, why think small. | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu | a capsein-containing strain of basmati rice, making your rice naturally hot. | [20:05] |
| plambert | what has BFL delivered so far? | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu | early on a fpga | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu | allegedly some other shit since, but it's kind of hard to get straight answers. | [20:05] |
| BingoBoingo | 2020 "Does BFL make parole by February?" | [20:05] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00091742 = 5.321 BTC [+] | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu | the people who banked on them last year aren't around anymore, if that's telling. | [20:06] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00091166 = 4.9685 BTC [-] | [20:06] |
| ThickAsThieves | they claim to be shipping the first draft of asic miners immediately | [20:07] |
| ThickAsThieves | it's been almost a year since I cancelled my order for one | [20:07] |
| plambert | are they going to be more effcient than other ASIC miners, or are they just the same thing everybody else has already? | [20:08] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+] | [20:09] |
| ThickAsThieves | i'm speaking of old models | [20:10] |
| ThickAsThieves | 65nm | [20:10] |
| BingoBoingo | plambert: I don't imagine it really makes much difference. How much difference does pouring a gallon of milk make for a river. | [20:10] |
| asciilifeform | anyone notice 'blockchain.info' denominated in usd now? | [20:11] |
| ThickAsThieves | BFL is basically the first scammer in line for new bitcoin enthusiasts | [20:11] |
| nubbins` | asciilifeform: click on any green button that shows USD | [20:11] |
| ThickAsThieves | a rite of passage | [20:11] |
| asciilifeform | nubbins`: interesting | [20:11] |
| nubbins` | nod | [20:11] |
| nubbins` | convenient, too | [20:11] |
| ThickAsThieves | oh you heard of bitcoin mining? and you dont know our rep? buy our miner! | [20:12] |
| nubbins` | although not necessarily obvious :) | [20:12] |
| asciilifeform | these folks are harvesting the 'ground floor' people rather well | [20:12] |
| asciilifeform | i overheard my neighbours talking about dumping their savings into AM some time ago | [20:12] |
| asciilifeform | real mindfuck | [20:12] |
| nubbins` | so there's another blizzard heading this way | [20:12] |
| ThickAsThieves | sounds like they had bad timing | [20:13] |
| nubbins` | you'd be amazed at the number of people i saw at the hardware store loading up on propane. | [20:13] |
| nubbins` | "you know you guys can't burn that inside, right?" | [20:13] |
| nubbins` | "what do you mean?" | [20:13] |
| asciilifeform | nubbins`: some have generators that run on it | [20:13] |
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| nubbins` | yeah, these were the camping size bottles | [20:13] |
| asciilifeform | maybe laptop-sized gensets | [20:14] |
| ThickAsThieves | like for lamps? | [20:14] |
| nubbins` | heh! | [20:14] |
| nubbins` | let's hope so | [20:14] |
| asciilifeform | always wanted one of those | [20:14] |
| nubbins` | i just shook my head as i purchased the last kerosene heater | [20:14] |
| asciilifeform | (afaik this doesn't actually exist) | [20:14] |
| nubbins` | and the last gallon of kerosene | [20:14] |
| asciilifeform | i'm rather surprised those 'laptop-sized' stirling engines never caught on | [20:15] |
| asciilifeform | you could run a computer on anything that combusts. | [20:15] |
| nubbins` | i'd buy several of those | [20:15] |
| nubbins` | multi-fuel systems are great | [20:16] |
| asciilifeform | it doesn't get any simpler than a stirling engine. | [20:16] |
| nubbins` | i've got a camp stove that takes kerosene, diesel, naphtha, and even unleaded gasoline | [20:16] |
| nubbins` | fuckin great | [20:16] |
| asciilifeform | there's a traditional schoolboy version made from aluminum can, that will run off body heat. | [20:16] |
| asciilifeform | some have... interesting... shapes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BetaStirlingTG4web.svg | [20:17] |
| asciilifeform | the20year: a few mW | [20:17] |
| nubbins` | HA | [20:17] |
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| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform it always did that, you can click the bubbles to switch | [20:19] |
| asciilifeform | aha. | [20:19] |
| asciilifeform | there are ways to make substantially cheaper stirling engine | [20:19] |
| asciilifeform | e.g. liquid pistons | [20:19] |
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| asciilifeform | but it remains a 'crackpot field' for some reason. | [20:19] |
| asciilifeform | mainly because they're no good for vehicles | [20:20] |
| asciilifeform | (need gigantic heat exchanger if engine is moving) | [20:20] |
| nubbins` | hm | [20:21] |
| nubbins` | i wonder if the off-the-grid crowd uses these | [20:21] |
| asciilifeform | if you want to run a laptop off a candle, a micro stirling engine is probably the only way to go. | [20:21] |
| mircea_popescu | [20:22] | |
| asciilifeform | (thermoelectric cell, the seemingly-obvious solution, is laughably inefficient) | [20:22] |
| BingoBoingo | I'm kind of suprised people who claim to be running mining farms aren't talking about stirling engines and heat recovery. | [20:22] |
| nubbins` | mircea_popescu: amazing! | [20:22] |
| assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [20:22] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: nobody cancelled laws of thermodynamics | [20:22] |
| mircea_popescu | notrly. russian. | [20:22] |
| nubbins` | only problem is that certain fuels are a lot dirtier, and require more maintenance | [20:22] |
| nubbins` | e.g. naphtha / white gas vs unleaded petrol | [20:22] |
| mircea_popescu | i don't think the concept of dirty existed in the universe this thing was made. | [20:22] |
| nubbins` | heh! | [20:23] |
| nubbins` | too true | [20:23] |
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| asciilifeform | you know, it really doesn't get much dirtier than firewood | [20:23] |
| asciilifeform | and yet everybody loves it | [20:23] |
| nubbins` | the real nice wood stoves have afterburners | [20:23] |
| mircea_popescu | how is firewood dirty ? | [20:23] |
| asciilifeform | http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-fireplace-delusion | [20:23] |
| ozbot | The Fireplace Delusion : : | [20:23] |
| nubbins` | soot | [20:23] |
| BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Of course not, but I'm thinking such thoughts would be attractive to the mining mindset. | [20:23] |
| nubbins` | hm | [20:25] |
| nubbins` | yeah | [20:26] |
| asciilifeform | the20year: your fireplace chimney has an afterburner? | [20:26] |
| nubbins` | wood stoves in general are way better than fireplaces for this thing too | [20:26] |
| nubbins` | fireplaces are mildly retarded, although quaint | [20:26] |
| nubbins` | wood stoves are the shine | [20:26] |
| asciilifeform | phun phact: afterburner is the invention that made cremation popular in the west | [20:26] |
| nubbins` | haha | [20:26] |
| nubbins` | makes sense | [20:26] |
| nubbins` | if you REALLY want a fireplace, get a propane one installed | [20:27] |
| asciilifeform | if you burn 1-stage, the whole town gets to smell the barbeque | [20:27] |
| asciilifeform | as in india. | [20:27] |
| nubbins` | if you REALLY want to burn wood for heat, get a Jotul stove | [20:27] |
| nubbins` | sorry | [20:27] |
| nubbins` | Jøtul | [20:27] |
| asciilifeform | see, quite a few people get wood stoves because they like the smell. | [20:28] |
| nubbins` | heh. | [20:28] |
| nubbins` | that's like smoking cigarettes because you like the smell | [20:28] |
| nubbins` | the20year: i'm on electric heat here | [20:28] |
| asciilifeform | the20year: heat pump | [20:28] |
| nubbins` | our tenants are on oil :( | [20:28] |
| asciilifeform | came with the place | [20:28] |
| asciilifeform | gas-fired plant, four blocks away | [20:29] |
| asciilifeform | local uni built it | [20:29] |
| nubbins` | anyway, speaking of tenants, i should go pick up rent before this storm hits | [20:29] |
| asciilifeform | technically, correct. | [20:29] |
| nubbins` | expecting another 25cm today | [20:29] |
| asciilifeform | the20year: this was, afaik, invented by ww2 partizans | [20:30] |
| asciilifeform | heat a dugout without smoke giving away position | [20:30] |
| KRS1 | i know how you feel-cold in florida today, probably 65-low 60's | [20:31] |
| KRS1 | i have to put on long pants for once | [20:31] |
| asciilifeform | the20year: what latitude? | [20:31] |
| asciilifeform | easy to heat a house that never gets cold | [20:31] |
| KRS1 | 26.7097° N, 80.0642° W | [20:31] |
| asciilifeform | if you could build with 'aerogel' insulation, you could heat the house with just your body + computer. | [20:32] |
| asciilifeform | but aerogel is... $500/g? | [20:32] |
| asciilifeform | right | [20:32] |
| asciilifeform | here in the u.s., demilitarized missile shafts are sometimes sold | [20:32] |
| asciilifeform | and are famous for the low cost of heating/cooling | [20:32] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC [-] | [20:33] |
| asciilifeform | who wouldn't love a house with a 200T door. | [20:33] |
| BingoBoingo | A county government purchased on of the local Nike bases a while back for records storage. Mold and Mosture took out a good portion of the archived vital records. | [20:34] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: nike, afaik, was surface-launched. | [20:34] |
| asciilifeform | so unless you like big concrete parking lot, not sure what use it is. | [20:35] |
| BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: There were the underground magazines. | [20:35] |
| asciilifeform | aha | [20:35] |
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| asciilifeform | they all flood if the pumps aren't working | [20:35] |
| BingoBoingo | Surface launched, but lifted from the concrete vault by an elevator. | [20:35] |
| asciilifeform | hence why you can buy one for considerably less than a human house | [20:36] |
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| asciilifeform | but there aren't any over here, sadly. | [20:36] |
| BingoBoingo | That local site is now repurposed as a sewage treatment facility | [20:36] |
| KRS1 | aerogel is badass i wanted to buy some of it | [20:36] |
| asciilifeform | KRS1: afaik it still holds the record for unit cost / gram (other than weird biologicals) | [20:37] |
| asciilifeform | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aerogelflower_filtered.jpg | [20:39] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC [+] | [20:40] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.41510909 = 4.5662 BTC [-] {4} | [20:43] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3024 @ 0.001 = 3.024 BTC [-] | [20:47] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00091497 = 14.6395 BTC [+] {2} | [20:49] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [-] | [20:50] |
| BingoBoingo | Here's some pictures of Nike magazines http://themilitarystandard.com/missile/nike/sl-40_photos_2.php | [20:53] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00091857 = 9.8287 BTC [+] {2} | [20:54] |
| asciilifeform | at least one 'minuteman' still worked, it is claimed: http://www.afgsc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123374519 | [20:59] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform of course te per gram reference is deceiving. aerogel is very light | [20:59] |
| mircea_popescu | by this token peacock tail feathers are probably more expensive | [21:00] |
| mircea_popescu | (still used to this day in cabaret costumerie) | [21:00] |
| asciilifeform | i said 'unit cost', perhaps that wasn't the correct term | [21:00] |
| asciilifeform | we could breed peacocks the way chickens are bred, in theory | [21:00] |
| mircea_popescu | what's a unit, you know ? | [21:00] |
| asciilifeform | if someone found a really good use for the feather | [21:00] |
| asciilifeform | while, afaik, no one knows how to make aerogel economically. | [21:00] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9043 @ 0.00091166 = 8.2441 BTC [-] | [21:02] |
| asciilifeform | http://themilitarystandard.com/missile/minuteman/images/pizza.jpg | [21:04] |
| asciilifeform | really nice gloves? | [21:05] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41600001 BTC [+] | [21:07] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [-] | [21:11] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.416 = 0.832 BTC [-] | [21:11] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.41 = 2.46 BTC [-] {2} | [21:12] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11078 @ 0.00090834 = 10.0626 BTC [-] {2} | [21:27] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [-] | [21:30] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00091633 = 17.0896 BTC [+] {2} | [21:59] |
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| mircea_popescu | .d | [22:58] |
| ozbot | 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1741 blocks | Estimated Change: 4.2028% in 11d 13h 54m 24s | [22:58] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00381001 = 0.3048 BTC [-] {3} | [23:16] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.00381629 = 0.3511 BTC [+] {3} | [23:17] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1611 @ 0.000098 = 0.1579 BTC [+] | [23:17] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00371006 = 0.4044 BTC [-] {4} | [23:18] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 202 @ 0.00338419 = 0.6836 BTC [-] {14} | [23:21] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12162 @ 0.00091588 = 11.1389 BTC [+] | [23:28] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12610 @ 0.00090805 = 11.4505 BTC [-] | [23:33] |
| BW^- | bingoboingo: ok, I talked at -otc and they were almost completely unserious | [23:37] |
| BW^- | bingoboingo: almost completely worthless conversation. | [23:37] |
| BW^- | kakobrekla: ^ | [23:38] |
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| BingoBoingo | How? | [23:43] |
| rbonestell | I'm looking for beta testers for a Havelock portfolio Android app on Google Play- anyone? | [23:44] |
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| mircea_popescu | rbonestell did you manage to get anyone so far ? | [23:54] |
| rbonestell | I have 5 people testing it right now- found and resolved a few issues. Went from alpha to beta, might go production in a week or so if nothing seriously is found. | [23:55] |
| rbonestell | nothing serious* | [23:55] |
| mircea_popescu | cool. | [23:55] |
| rbonestell | http://i.imgur.com/3tFyqv9.png | [23:56] |
| rbonestell | ^ screenshot | [23:56] |
| pankkake | shouldn't the triangles be down if - ? | [23:56] |
| Jere_Jones | Maybe it is the symbol for delta and not a triangle | [23:59] |
| rbonestell | yeah, that's delta | [23:59] |
| pankkake | yeah, I realized after, but it confuses my eyes :) | [23:59] |
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