Forum logs for 01 Oct 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu We are seeking a total of $1.5 million dollars over the next three years with an initial need for $350,000 [00:02]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106393.0 [00:02]
mircea_popescu srsly, what's everyone's take on thsi guy ? [00:02]
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Ignatius-otc not-for-profit (communist) regimen. We believe in CAPITALISM in Colorado. [00:06]
Ignatius-otc lawl [00:06]
mircea_popescu mmmyea [00:07]
Ignatius-otc well, interesting read. I won't be investing anytime soon with that individual. [00:09]
Ignatius-otc wonder what the license will cost [00:09]
Cylta Mircea , who paying for options on mpex? (In case of they were profitable) [00:10]
mircea_popescu Cylta there's a bond system, let me find you the link [00:11]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745 [00:11]
mircea_popescu read that whole thing it details the workings of mpoe [00:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00036436 = 5.7933 BTC [-] [00:12]
mircea_popescu Ignatius-bot the ideea itself may have merit, and he;'s hitting on some nice sales points with civil disobedfience et all [00:12]
mircea_popescu just... im wondering how legit he is. [00:12]
dub Whether or not I ultimately develop a bitcoin bank-like marijuana commercial loan lending service [00:13]
dub wat [00:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-] [00:13]
Bugpowder omg what idiot just sold NYAN.A for 0.9 [00:14]
Ignatius-otc I recall seeing many of his posts throughout btctalk. Even still it doesn't come across to me as an honest business proposal. Large startup costs with little info. Of course, it's only a matter of time before growing and distribution are legalized [00:14]
Ignatius-otc somebody will profit, i guess phillip morris? [00:14]
mircea_popescu dub i dunno. [00:14]
mircea_popescu Ignatius-bot still, if you started a largeish farm i could see 1mn sunk into it [00:15]
mircea_popescu even if it's just a guy-and-his-gf type of op [00:15]
Bugpowder sure [00:15]
Bugpowder but why do they need capital from bitcoin market? [00:15]
Ignatius-otc yes but if I go to get a loan I need to provide something showing why I need the amount I claim to need [00:16]
mircea_popescu now that is the odd part. he says cause we're philosophically aliogned. [00:16]
OneEyed :) [00:16]
mircea_popescu problem is, we're economically unalligned, if btc goes way up he's way fucked. [00:16]
mircea_popescu obviously he could get options to hedge, but still. [00:16]
Bugpowder I think any legit producer can get investment easily from non-bitcoin denominated things [00:16]
mircea_popescu me too, especially if he has the sense to manage a 1mn dollar hydroponics farm [00:17]
Ignatius-otc mircea_popescu, have you created a glbse short asset yet [00:17]
mircea_popescu he should have the sense to write a pretty decent business proposal [00:17]
mircea_popescu Ignatius-bot asset no. i just do it on my own account. [00:17]
dub he can just denominate in USD? [00:17]
mircea_popescu dub if he does then buying it would be divesting btc. who wants that ? [00:17]
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mircea_popescu (btw i am shocked, shocked i say at the unseemly volume of actual financial discussion taking place in thsi chan of late) [00:18]
dub well you still get returns [00:18]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13467854193.jpg have a girl. [00:18]
dub presumably [00:18]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: this is the first time I come to this channel, are you saying the volume of financial discussion went up recently? [00:19]
OneEyed (I cannot tell if you are sarcastic or serious) [00:19]
mircea_popescu OneEyed i was dead serious. [00:19]
OneEyed Oh [00:19]
mircea_popescu well the unseemly part was sarcastic. [00:19]
kakobrekla I think its just a bubble. [00:19]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [00:19]
OneEyed Eheh [00:20]
Ignatius-otc kakobrekla, have you posted a thread to btctalk yet about the new service? [00:20]
mircea_popescu actually, kakobrekla, some reports ? what'stotal volume processed yet ? [00:20]
kakobrekla no, i will open the page for public tomorrow but btctalk annoucment will wait a few more days [00:20]
Bugpowder no I think we have reached an inflection point [00:21]
kakobrekla wait [00:21]
kakobrekla which service are you asking me again of? [00:21]
kakobrekla bit4x goes tomorrow [00:21]
Ignatius-otc ok well please link it here I get lost wading through btctalk drama [00:21]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla smpake [00:21]
kakobrekla its on the bottom of the page [00:21]
kakobrekla Completed txs: 264 | Completed txs vol: 1289 BTC [00:21]
mircea_popescu Ignatius-otc stop trolling and lieing and demonizing drama! [00:21]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla wow pretty good! [00:21]
kakobrekla well so-so [00:22]
mircea_popescu not even a month yet or is it ? [00:22]
kakobrekla i need to add mpex and others [00:22]
kakobrekla it will get better [00:22]
kakobrekla it might be especially useful in mpex case [00:22]
kakobrekla we'll see. [00:22]
kakobrekla no i think its not a month yet [00:22]
kakobrekla or maybe around [00:22]
kakobrekla would need to check that [00:22]
mircea_popescu 9/30/12 [00:23]
mircea_popescu Effective immediately, [00:23]
mircea_popescu I am defaulting on my BDK.BND debt. [00:23]
mircea_popescu o glorious [00:23]
mircea_popescu i never shorted that one :( [00:23]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: you're late [00:23]
mircea_popescu fuckall! [00:23]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: he still plans to reimburse everything [00:24]
OneEyed (even if I think he should better borrow to buy his own debt at a discount, since people will panic sell) [00:24]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu, 5 weeks [00:24]
Ignatius-otc things have been disgusting lately [00:24]
kakobrekla times does fly fast [00:24]
mircea_popescu I previously intended to empty my non-legal wife's (we personally consider ourselves married, but legally, we are individual and thus have rights we'd otherwise forfeit) 401(k). I obviously did not want to do this, but it became clear it was necessary as I was looking at $200-250/wk interest on this single debt while having been financially raped by loans to various members of the community [00:24]
mircea_popescu apparently planning is not something these forum finance wizards dabble in. [00:24]
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Ignatius-otc I'm sorry he is having troubles but that lady needs to leave. [00:25]
Bugpowder I was just copying that to paste it here [00:25]
mircea_popescu when the girl was telling him THE EXACT THING months ago... he was all tail up. [00:25]
mircea_popescu im getting so sick of it.. [00:25]
mircea_popescu everybody on the forum should be forced to suckle her toes daily for weeks. [00:26]
Bugpowder Kluge, bro, close the computer, and pretend it never happened. [00:27]
Bugpowder "If you are coming for a visit, I would like at least a voice message a day or two prior. Harm toward family's off-limits, and I would physically object to bodily harm which may result in my stay in a hospital, as that'd further impede repayment. I am armed, so please keep ideas of physical violence in check." [00:28]
mircea_popescu ... [00:28]
mircea_popescu this guy's such a nitwit ffs. [00:28]
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Bugpowder Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for? [00:31]
Bugpowder I guess his grasp did not actually include his girlfriend's retirement account [00:31]
mircea_popescu yaright. [00:31]
mircea_popescu dude, and i told him to get the fuck off his dragon [00:31]
mircea_popescu i can kinda spot a clerk pretending he's a banker and an apprentice pretending he;s a mage. [00:32]
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assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.10100001 BTC [+] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 4 @ 0.101 = 0.404 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.10045 = 0.3014 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 4 @ 0.10035 = 0.4014 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 22 @ 0.10015 = 2.2033 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00036436 = 6.686 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.09802 = 0.5881 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.0003636 = 1.9089 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 30 @ 0.098001 = 2.94 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 14 @ 0.092 = 1.288 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09002 = 0.18 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 6 @ 0.149253 = 0.8955 BTC [+] [00:39]
OneEyed Ehh, that trade must be my shares, 6 shares closer to GLBSE outdoors [00:41]
PsychoticBoy :D my shares at .15 will come next [00:42]
OneEyed PsychoticBoy: :) [00:43]
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OneEyed I don't understand buyers sometimes, two hours before he/she would have got the dividends as well [00:44]
PsychoticBoy indeed, suckers [00:44]
OneEyed 33 shares left, and I'm GLBSE free [00:44]
mircea_popescu maybe that's when payment cleared or who knows [00:44]
PsychoticBoy I do think GLBSE will survive [00:44]
Bugpowder because as soon as dividend is paid, price drops = to dividend payment [00:44]
Bugpowder in a liquid market at least [00:44]
mircea_popescu slippage on glbse is 10x any dividends anyway [00:45]
OneEyed Bugpowder: not here - I sold 5 shares just before and 6 shared just after the dividend, same price [00:45]
Bugpowder in a liquid market where people are paying attention [00:45]
PsychoticBoy I paid 0.00155 a share [00:45]
Bugpowder like an real stock market [00:45]
PsychoticBoy div [00:45]
mircea_popescu 0.1% ? [00:45]
OneEyed 1.1% [00:46]
PsychoticBoy no more than 1% [00:46]
OneEyed (or my spreadsheet is wrong) [00:46]
mircea_popescu .py 0.149253/ 0.00155 [00:46]
markac 96.2922580645 [00:46]
mircea_popescu um [00:46]
mircea_popescu .py 0.00155 / 0.149253 [00:46]
markac 0.0103850508867 [00:46]
mircea_popescu aha [00:46]
PsychoticBoy not bad for a fund [00:47]
mircea_popescu per month this is ? [00:47]
PsychoticBoy better than most funds like DMC ( not a mining company more a fund) BMF, M.ETF etc [00:47]
PsychoticBoy weekly [00:48]
mircea_popescu a weekly it's pretty good yes. [00:48]
mircea_popescu MPBOR is 5.1% atm, but that involves some risk. [00:48]
mircea_popescu difficult to compare risk profiles. [00:48]
PsychoticBoy FDBF is less risk more mining profit, some loans [00:48]
OneEyed What's good here is that even the recent loan defaults don't affect the dividends [00:48]
PsychoticBoy We re going to put up a motion tpo buy BTCFPGA asic miners [00:49]
OneEyed Just the NAV and future liquidity usable by the fund [00:49]
Cylta Mircea, I think you should make everything a bit simpler with your bonds and stocks... [00:49]
mircea_popescu OneEyed how's that work ? [00:49]
mircea_popescu Cylta anything specific ? [00:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.6779 BTC [-] [00:49]
Bugpowder I guess his IceHill investment is what did him in... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ao892S4MOoDZdGZSbjJVd1ZTbFVLZE5aRE95bE91NVE&gid=1 [00:49]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: a defaulting loan doesn't affect the existing number of shares of GLBSE assets, only the net value of the fund [00:49]
PsychoticBoy indeed [00:50]
mircea_popescu OneEyed so dividend not linked to nav ? [00:50]
PsychoticBoy also defaulted loans are repaired by the growt fund [00:50]
OneEyed Nope, AFAICS dividends for the fund are made of dividends of the held assets [00:50]
mircea_popescu da fuck is icehikll [00:50]
OneEyed Right PsychoticBoy ? [00:50]
PsychoticBoy yep [00:50]
PsychoticBoy mostly [00:51]
mircea_popescu so then if something defaults, less dividends. [00:51]
PsychoticBoy and repaid laons/ interest [00:51]
OneEyed If an asset defaults, less dividends. If a loan defaults, less liquidity [00:51]
Bugpowder Wait -- what? What's Icehill? Please pardon us for having to make so many early announcements. Icehill is the name for what will be a publicly registered company in Iceland. Icehill handles all the implementations of software designed by RingCoin (Kronos, Hermes, ZipConf, and other projects in queue). It is not registered right now. The project leader is heading to Iceland shortly to talk to a lawyer working for Iceland's do [00:51]
mircea_popescu OneEyed aha [00:51]
OneEyed (and less future investments, less fund growth, etc.) [00:51]
Bugpowder 4000BTC loss on Icehill [00:51]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder o, ofcourse kronos bs did him in [00:51]
mircea_popescu you want me to have the girl dig up the posts where she was telling him so ? [00:51]
mircea_popescu weeks ago or w/e [00:51]
PsychoticBoy We are very transperant (FDBF) we have NO secrets [00:52]
OneEyed If I change my mind about GLBSE, I'll buy FDBF again, but probably for lower than I sold it :) [00:52]
PsychoticBoy we are NOT stealing your precious coins, we are really investing them [00:52]
mircea_popescu he had 86 btc in bvps ?! [00:52]
PsychoticBoy not me [00:52]
mircea_popescu nono, kludge [00:53]
PsychoticBoy no 11 btc [00:53]
PsychoticBoy sold for ~6 [00:53]
mircea_popescu 1k in tygrr... nefario sure helped him [00:53]
Cylta Simple explanation at least would be nice. For example: bonds get everything first, but only defined piece of profit. Stocks get the rest of profit. [00:54]
PsychoticBoy kludge is feeling the pinch [00:54]
mircea_popescu wait, he had 86 btc in bvps that was STOLEN !? [00:54]
Bugpowder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYeLrcWFitY [00:54]
PsychoticBoy some poeple get away with everything [00:54]
mircea_popescu Cylta a, but it's built like this for a reason. [00:54]
PsychoticBoy people [00:55]
Bugpowder That was my favorite trading video of all time [00:55]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder you know the one where athene noob gets owned in poker tourney ? [00:56]
Bugpowder nop [00:56]
Bugpowder the best part about that video is he blows up his account [00:56]
Cylta Mircea I understand the reason, but I only mean that this explanation is shorter :-) [00:56]
Bugpowder then SP rallies the next day hard [00:56]
Bugpowder would have made profit if he didn't get margined [00:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 3 @ 0.97 = 2.91 BTC [+] [00:57]
mircea_popescu Cylta yea, i think you pretty much got it. bonds get x% first, then shareholders. if theres a loss bonds pay. [00:57]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder :D [00:57]
Bugpowder I only played in one tourney. Won a 29 seater, made $1000 at Red Rocks. Quit while ahead [00:58]
Bugpowder seals doesn't count [00:58]
mircea_popescu lemem dig it [01:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.49979999 BTC [+] [01:01]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwYLuHOsLks [01:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.0003636 = 0.7817 BTC [-] [01:02]
mircea_popescu yabmc is also sour is it ? [01:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.4998 BTC [+] [01:02]
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assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+] [01:05]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+] [01:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 180 @ 0.0034 = 0.612 BTC [+] [01:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [PLATINUM] 10 @ 0.00999999 = 0.1 BTC [+] [01:08]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.10300001 = 0.206 BTC [-] [01:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-] [01:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.10120001 = 0.2024 BTC [-] [01:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1012 = 1.012 BTC [-] [01:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.10115 BTC [-] [01:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1011 BTC [-] [01:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-] [01:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 332 @ 0.101 = 33.532 BTC [-] [01:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 0.87999999 BTC [+] [01:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 34 @ 0.88 = 29.92 BTC [+] [01:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 5 @ 0.88 = 4.4 BTC [+] [01:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00036092 = 8.7704 BTC [-] [01:27]
mircea_popescu OneEyed btw were you invested in hashking ? [01:30]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: yeah, for around 27 BTC [01:32]
mircea_popescu not as terrible as many. [01:33]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: I pressed charges when he didn't answer by PM nor reimburse me (it's free to start criminal charges here, no need for a lawyer) [01:33]
OneEyed And puff, magic, I got reimbursed less than one hour after I told him so [01:33]
mircea_popescu that's the case pretty much everywhere. [01:33]
OneEyed But, according to his PM (since he now answered my PM), I was next in line anyway [01:34]
mircea_popescu you just need to get your lazy ass to the da's office/police station and file. [01:34]
OneEyed So I didn't pursue the charges [01:34]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: not even, a simple letter is enough, which describes the facts [01:34]
mircea_popescu well that'd be fileing [01:34]
OneEyed Yup [01:34]
mircea_popescu you can file by letter in the us too. [01:34]
OneEyed And when the DA will get back to me, I'll just drop the charges and won't confirm them since the issue is now moot [01:35]
mircea_popescu yeah. in 2013 sometime [01:36]
mircea_popescu summer-ish [01:36]
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OneEyed Eheh, no, this part is quite fast usually, 3 or 4 weeks [01:36]
mircea_popescu a, good for them then [01:37]
mircea_popescu i thought france was horrible [01:37]
OneEyed Since it may start the investigation by the cybercrime police unit, it must be fast. The part after the evidence has been gathered takes much more time, before the actual prosecution happens [01:37]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: it is to get a final decision [01:37]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: but the investigation gets started pretty fast usually [01:38]
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OneEyed AFK, talk to you later, 'night [01:38]
mircea_popescu these must be the sarkozy improvements [01:38]
mircea_popescu later. [01:38]
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assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 1 @ 0.0144 BTC [-] [01:41]
dub pretty sure I was the first person to call usagi a scammer [01:41]
dub clearly I deserve some form of bounty [01:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 1 @ 0.01424 BTC [-] [01:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 10 @ 0.0113 = 0.113 BTC [-] [01:43]
mircea_popescu dub i can't give you one, EskimoBob is already getting all of it. [01:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 88 @ 0.0112 = 0.9856 BTC [-] [01:45]
Obsi usagi did a runner? [01:45]
mircea_popescu Obsi just a little imploding [01:45]
Obsi seems everything on GLBSE is [01:46]
kakobrekla ;;seen usagi [01:46]
gribble usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 53 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: Patrick's fund has nothing to do with NYAN.A tho. [01:46]
Obsi bitcoin jenga! [01:46]
Bugpowder everything but gigamining [01:46]
Obsi even giga is low off it's highs [01:46]
Obsi look at volume of everything [01:47]
Obsi now's your chance to make mpex usable mircea_popescu [01:47]
Bugpowder well pirate sucks out most of the money [01:47]
Bugpowder then mining stocks deacying [01:47]
Bugpowder then SEC investigation [01:47]
mircea_popescu Obsi ty, but it doesn't seem like anyone has a choice. glbse is going away. now's everyone's change to learn gpg. [01:47]
Bugpowder I don't think GLBSE is going to survive [01:47]
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Obsi ;;seen nefario [01:48]
gribble nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 2 hours, 48 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [01:48]
Bugpowder If gigamining bails, its game over [01:48]
Bugpowder that is the only reason I have assets there [01:48]
PsychoticBoy who wow ow wo My asset ABM is real and FDBF is real [01:48]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder doesn't really look like he'll bail. [01:48]
mircea_popescu PsychoticBoy very hard life for a fund man. [01:49]
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PsychoticBoy yes :( [01:49]
knotwork scams are probably usually looking for "unsophisticated investors" so hopefully will tend to flock to the insecure but lowest common denominator appeal web-based platforms [01:49]
mircea_popescu knotwork you think ? [01:49]
knotwork I hope [01:49]
mircea_popescu hey, you markm on the forum ? [01:50]
Bugpowder they will go wherever they are allowed to list [01:50]
mircea_popescu o tyes you are [01:50]
mircea_popescu well, how's ot coming along ? [01:50]
knotwork yes, WHOIS knotwork.com, WHOIS knotwork.net [01:50]
PsychoticBoy so usagi is ascmmer in the eyes of the community [01:50]
knotwork You could join us in #opentransactions to watch progress live [01:50]
PsychoticBoy scammer* [01:50]
mircea_popescu PsychoticBoy well, he's just an awful manager [01:51]
mircea_popescu knotwork ya but i hate multi channing [01:51]
knotwork Mostly so far though there are so few people with clients that most activity on the/my (the only) server is using me as data entry clerk [01:51]
mircea_popescu haha [01:51]
Obsi is there a reason OT couldn't be made decentralized and fully P2P? Maybe using the blockchain to agree on things [01:51]
PsychoticBoy almost the same, btc gone in a scam of awful management results in the same: no btc [01:51]
PsychoticBoy *or [01:51]
mircea_popescu i was talking with da2ce773 a while bakc about getting a test server oince the thing is production ready [01:52]
knotwork like the Brits tell me, please send #### of asset Y to Martians, Martians tell me please send so many of asset X to Brits, etc [01:52]
da2ce773 :) [01:52]
PsychoticBoy but im of to bed, good night all [01:52]
mircea_popescu nn [01:52]
da2ce773 midnightmagic: knotwork has been running a server for ages now :) [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16733 @ 0.00036092 = 6.0393 BTC [-] [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12694 @ 0.00035878 = 4.5544 BTC [-] [01:52]
Bugpowder PsychoticBoy well he does misrepresent his asset values [01:52]
da2ce773 ** mircea_popescu [01:52]
mircea_popescu da2ce773 wouldja say it actually is at a point where it can be deployed ? [01:53]
knotwork or, they tell me what they want their scripted offers to be, like have the script offer to buy at 97% on scale 1, 98% on scale 10, 99% on scale 100 [01:53]
Obsi why isn't that all automated? [01:53]
Ignatius-otc mircea_popescu, is this accurate: http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#13 ? the bit about affiliates and a 5 btc rebate? [01:53]
mircea_popescu knotwork how would i connect to the server ? [01:53]
mircea_popescu yes Ignatius-otc, you might also want to give a look at [01:54]
mircea_popescu .g mpex dev talk [01:54]
markac mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpex-devtalk/ [01:54]
knotwork with a client (or using ot script language). what operating system do you use? [01:54]
da2ce773 hmm... it isn't a just a clean 'deploy and everything will work forever stage'.. there will be bugs, and it will need maintance/FellowTraveler/I will have to develop patches for your issues. [01:54]
mircea_popescu knotwork ubuntu [01:54]
da2ce773 almost everyday we work with knotwork solving issues. [01:54]
da2ce773 *hence his server is still up and running. [01:55]
knotwork ok well in ubunto you should be able to git clone the OT repo and the Moneychanger repo and build OT using configure etc and Moneychanger using netbeans [01:55]
mircea_popescu da2ce773 what'd be a reasonable server to run it on ? do you have it on a vps atm ? [01:55]
knotwork or probably use a pre-build Moneychanger jar [01:55]
mircea_popescu knotwork i don't want to build the server tho, just a client [01:55]
da2ce773 mircea_popescu: you prob want 2 dedi cores. [01:55]
knotwork I would never run financial server on third party hosting [01:56]
mircea_popescu knotwork this'd be a test thing [01:56]
knotwork it is on my machine right here behind my steel plated door [01:56]
mircea_popescu o, you actually have money on it as it is ? [01:56]
da2ce773 ya [01:56]
da2ce773 I have some dBTC [01:56]
mircea_popescu i see [01:56]
knotwork mircea, the OT build builds the .so dynamic libs that the client needs to dynamically link to [01:57]
knotwork the guts are all in the API libraries, the actual GUI client just uses the java API library which is compiled from C++ code [01:57]
mircea_popescu you use java ?! [01:57]
da2ce773 the windows client is almost super-easy to install now (on windows). [01:57]
knotwork the test/reference GUI is in java [01:57]
mircea_popescu well that sucks [01:58]
knotwork however the OT also comes with "opentxs" command that executes OT script language [01:58]
da2ce773 :S well java dosn't suck if you do it right... look at multibit [01:58]
knotwork so you can do everything from the commandline in OT script [01:58]
knotwork opentxs command also goes into OT shell type mode if not told a command to run [01:58]
knotwork basically installing OT having configured it with --with-java will put a java otapi library in /usr/local/lib [01:59]
mircea_popescu hm [02:00]
knotwork then when you fire up the java client you tell it where to find that otapi-java library (the dir, /usr/local/lib) and it uses it [02:00]
knotwork (and remembers in future where to look for the lib) [02:00]
knotwork oh and what confuses many people is you also have to tell it an image path, to an image it is to display any time it asks for password, so no phisher will know what image to show you to make a convincing fake password-entry popup to pretend is coming from your OT [02:01]
mircea_popescu hm [02:02]
da2ce773 there is a few levels to OT. c++ (otlib) <- the core of OT, everything depends on this. c++ (otapi) <- bindings to the core. java (otapi-java) <- java bindings for the api [02:02]
knotwork the password crap is a real pain for scripts [02:03]
da2ce773 should be solved soon tho.... [02:03]
da2ce773 :S [02:03]
dub what level OT are you? [02:03]
dub tom cruise level? [02:03]
knotwork I cannot run the offers scripts for people in cron because even with setting up the gnome keyring crap the keyring sometimes does not respond properly plus seems to lose everything at reboot too [02:03]
da2ce773 dub: lol phantom level [02:03]
mircea_popescu so there's no simple way for me to talk to the ot server outside of installing soem (java including) client which i'd have to build ? [02:04]
knotwork no need for the java client you could use commandline thus only need OT itself [02:05]
da2ce773 hmm... or just binding to the c++ code yourself [02:05]
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knotwork someone recently built a package for one kind of Linux but not for Ubunto yet I think [02:05]
mircea_popescu and i depend upon this client for keeping my identity secure ? [02:05]
da2ce773 but if you want to automate things any-way you are going to need to do a littlebit of programing. [02:05]
da2ce773 the client could always talk via tor or localhost, or whaterever. [02:06]
knotwork the client encrypts a private key for each nym you create so yes it does the securing of the nyms aka identities [02:06]
knotwork is uses openssl [02:06]
knotwork so one could also use openssl directly to deal with them [02:06]
mircea_popescu so why can't i just pop an openssl up and talk to your server ? [02:07]
mircea_popescu aha [02:07]
da2ce773 oh yeah... cypro is built-into OT from the ground up... so that is a forgoan conclusion. [02:07]
knotwork the talk with the server is using ssl encrpyted XZeroMQ transport protocol [02:07]
knotwork which I think itself uses tcp though might also be capable of udp we use it in tcp mode though I think [02:08]
knotwork ZMQ - ZeroMQ [02:08]
mircea_popescu they claim faster than tcp [02:08]
mircea_popescu but why nton protocol, when you only need n to 1 ? [02:09]
knotwork oh okay so maybe not layered on top of tcp then [02:09]
knotwork we maybe will use n-to-n for server federating? [02:09]
da2ce773 well anyway, we just pass it over to zmq and forget about it... [02:09]
da2ce773 we use zmq 2.0 not the 3.0 branch [02:09]
knotwork or for auto echo of all receipts sent to client to also go to a DHT ? [02:09]
knotwork also ZMQ supposedly handles packeting the messages etc so you can have a message up to some huge size like 2 gigs or something [02:10]
knotwork you just say send this and it worries about how [02:10]
da2ce773 base64 encoded....ouch [02:11]
mircea_popescu ouch indeed [02:11]
knotwork to OT itself storage and transport are each encapsulated [02:11]
mircea_popescu what the fuck do you do on server end if ppl start sending 2gb lol [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 10 @ 0.22209339 = 2.2209 BTC [-] [02:11]
da2ce773 mircea_popescu: it was a joke when knotwork was doing a sync with an account that had a automated trading bot. [02:11]
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knotwork so it doesnt care what is in that black box, pull out ZMG substitute email and all OT should maybe need is to use much much longer timeouts to wait for replies [02:11]
knotwork s/ZMG/ZMQ/ [02:12]
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knotwork anyway, on Ubunto you should just be able to install prepackaged for ubunto protobuf protocol buffers maybe which it also needs, and build and install ZMQ which likely is not part of Ubunto normal repos, oh and boost which is also in standard repos [02:14]
knotwork you probably already have openssl installed [02:14]
knotwork if you are used to the autotools build system it is easy to build [02:15]
mircea_popescu aha [02:16]
knotwork at least it is easy once you have ZMQ and protobufs and boost already [02:16]
knotwork no wait, it also wants chaiscript oops you have to get that from their git [02:16]
knotwork latest version of their old version, their new major version number starts needing weird extra newfangled C extentions or something that normal C++ does not have [02:17]
knotwork though we will soon move to that I guess for some of those newfangled stuff [02:18]
knotwork anyway one of the builders used Ubunto I believe so likely the instructions for Ubunto are pretty good [02:18]
knotwork Me I use Fedora but that is pretty similar [02:18]
knotwork Who wrote MPEX code? [02:19]
knotwork whoever did can likely get OT working [02:19]
knotwork unless all they know is shell script and HTML [02:19]
mircea_popescu knotwork it's not as much a problem of not being able to get it working [02:20]
mircea_popescu as it is a problem of the userbase. [02:20]
mircea_popescu people in general are barely able to get simple gpg off the ground [02:20]
knotwork is that dashing pirate shown at http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpex-devtalk/ mircea? [02:20]
mircea_popescu you mean top of page ? [02:21]
knotwork Do I seem like I give a **** about userbase? ;) :D [02:21]
knotwork userbase can videochat with broker at $75/hour [02:21]
mircea_popescu knotwork s.mpoe made ~5k btc in september out of userbase :) [02:21]
knotwork that wasn't userbase that was "broker material" population [02:22]
mircea_popescu possibly [02:22]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82869.msg1234369#msg1234369 [02:22]
mircea_popescu moveto is closing [02:22]
knotwork Actually also my first attempt to use Open Transactions was inside my dealer-bots on IRC [02:23]
da2ce773 knotwork: I think that it is more-simple than your gpg app-thing that you had. [02:23]
da2ce773 * mircea_popescu ^^ [02:23]
knotwork so people could simply right here in IRC exchange various cryptocurrencies [02:23]
knotwork since userbase could give two shits about security why not IRC? [02:23]
mircea_popescu um [02:24]
knotwork and if they did care, why then I could add gribble style auth [02:24]
da2ce773 mircea_popescu: the java test-gui is 'good enough' for most use-cases... [02:24]
da2ce773 *for the end user [02:24]
mircea_popescu java is a horror, always coming up with new 0days [02:24]
da2ce773 mircea_popescu: it isn't so bad if you don't bind it to your web-browsers. [02:25]
knotwork mostly though my userbase would be playing from inside some kind of game client, so I would add commands in to whichever game server to call out to finace system [02:25]
mircea_popescu aha [02:25]
knotwork I have shell scripts that IRC bots use to talk to *coin daemons to do trade between coin types for example [02:26]
knotwork those same shell scripts can be run by system call in perl player-bots inside Crossfire RPG game [02:27]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.17499998 BTC [+] [02:27]
knotwork similarly it ought not be hard to give CoffeeMUD the ability to call out [02:27]
knotwork all such things though would, just like websites, sacrifice the player/visitor's ability to have their own private key [02:28]
knotwork instead the server would create a nym per player to use on its end [02:28]
knotwork or even just use a banker nym and an account per player controlled by the banker [02:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.47999999 = 1.44 BTC [+] [02:29]
knotwork mircea did you ever glance at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html ? [02:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.60959 BTC [-] [02:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.6098 = 2.4392 BTC [+] [02:29]
mircea_popescu !ticker obsi.hrpt [02:30]
knotwork It is just a really primitive HTML put out by shell scripts but is all I have made so far as a way for me to try to see waht the heck is going on with the various assets [02:30]
assbot [GLBSE:OBSI.HRPT] [Bid: 0.02770736] [Ask: 0.0395] [Spread: 0.01179264] [Last: 0.049] [24hVol: 18.39939738] [7dAvg: 0.05122539] [02:30]
mircea_popescu i vaguely recall that [02:30]
* da2ce773 is planning a ripple-like bot so end-users can easly trade anything into anything. [02:31]
knotwork I suppose in normal acronyms its an attempt to compute NAVs for everyone [02:31]
da2ce773 *throogh 3 or more step trades [02:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+] [02:31]
knotwork but of course it is confounded by not knowing what assets certain assets such as "BTC" and "DVC" and so on actually own [02:31]
knotwork in theory it should add up all assets "BTC" owns and divide by number of BTC that exist [02:32]
mircea_popescu "I own 5768 shares, which leaves 1472 shares out in the wild" [02:32]
knotwork in reality one cannot rely upon "BTC" to "back" itself nor to be able to be "liquidated" for its assets [02:32]
knotwork so in practice for BTC and DVC and IXC etc - the chains where I do not know what they actually own - I have to go get market prices and plug those in [02:33]
knotwork but for assets that every single item of them is on my server I can try to add up their value by looking at the reserves (assets) they hold [02:34]
knotwork thus for example the Martians hold a lot more stuff than the Canadians so Martian BotCoin evaluates as worth more than Canadian Digital Notes [02:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00035837 = 0.2509 BTC [-] [02:37]
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mircea_popescu smickles why do you keep spelling principal "principle" ? [02:38]
da2ce773 lol well boys, I'm off to the gym (gotta keep my ass looking good if you want to be a OT developer)... [02:40]
mircea_popescu lol gl [02:40]
copumpkin smickles-- [02:41]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.42212013 BTC [+] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.42212012 = 1.2664 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.42212013 = 1.2664 BTC [+] [02:50]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 2 @ 0.678 = 1.356 BTC [+] [02:53]
Obsi ;;seen usagi [02:54]
gribble usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 1 minute, and 3 seconds ago: Patrick's fund has nothing to do with NYAN.A tho. [02:54]
Obsi ;;later tell usagi yep [02:54]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:54]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.4948 BTC [+] [03:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.495 = 1.98 BTC [+] [03:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.15001001 BTC [-] [03:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.15001 BTC [-] [03:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12073 @ 0.00035837 = 4.3266 BTC [-] [03:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2427 @ 0.00036276 = 0.8804 BTC [+] [03:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 4 @ 0.42220001 = 1.6888 BTC [+] [03:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.42210001 BTC [-] [03:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.42210001 BTC [-] [03:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.422 = 1.266 BTC [-] [03:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 3 @ 0.69 = 2.07 BTC [+] [03:10]
dub http://www.officialwebsiteofamerica.com/ [03:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 5 @ 0.75 = 3.75 BTC [+] [03:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 4 @ 0.7989 = 3.1956 BTC [+] [03:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 6 @ 0.79898 = 4.7939 BTC [+] [03:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 13 @ 0.79899 = 10.3869 BTC [+] [03:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.799 BTC [+] [03:17]
kakobrekla sounds like maddox dub [03:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 10 @ 0.7999 = 7.999 BTC [+] [03:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [+] [03:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.42210002 = 1.2663 BTC [+] [03:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.422 BTC [-] [03:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.422 = 0.844 BTC [-] [03:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 10 @ 0.84999 = 8.4999 BTC [+] [03:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 3 @ 0.865 = 2.595 BTC [+] [03:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [+] [03:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.42220003 BTC [+] [03:24]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 2 @ 0.89 = 1.78 BTC [+] [03:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.42220002 BTC [-] [03:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.898 BTC [+] [03:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.97 = 1.94 BTC [+] [03:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [+] [03:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5223 @ 0.00036276 = 1.8947 BTC [+] [03:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 2 @ 0.98 = 1.96 BTC [+] [03:28]
mircea_popescu ahh, so let's stir the pot a little. [03:29]
* copumpkin hands mircea_popescu a large spoon [03:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 4 @ 0.17499998 = 0.7 BTC [+] [03:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 8 @ 0.175 = 1.4 BTC [+] [03:30]
* mircea_popescu hands copumpkin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114442.0 [03:30]
copumpkin I love how he talks about shareholders' privacy but then posts someone's passport [03:31]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: that seems suitably stirred [03:32]
copumpkin can I have my spoon back? [03:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCASS_BOND_A] 9 @ 0.148 = 1.332 BTC [-] [03:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCASS_BOND_A] 3 @ 0.149 = 0.447 BTC [+] [03:32]
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assbot [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.09000001 BTC [-] [03:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-] [03:32]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBV9Hdroh70 [03:32]
mircea_popescu copumpkin http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134889419169.jpg [03:33]
copumpkin I see [03:33]
dub I like the my anus is bleeding one [03:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.07879999 = 0.1576 BTC [-] [03:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 18 @ 0.0788 = 1.4184 BTC [+] [03:34]
dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GkHiU9bMW0 [03:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.40019999 = 1.2006 BTC [-] [03:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.6179 = 1.2358 BTC [+] [03:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6182 BTC [+] [03:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6184 BTC [+] [03:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.35959999 BTC [+] [03:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+] [03:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50000 @ 0.0034 = 170 BTC [+] [03:46]
mircea_popescu http://www.betsofbitco.in/item?id=566 zomg just a few hours [03:50]
mircea_popescu i am really excited! [03:50]
mircea_popescu dub which one is that ? [03:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00989 = 0.0495 BTC [+] [03:50]
mircea_popescu onm [03:50]
dub reminds me of usagi for some reason [03:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.07898 = 0.158 BTC [+] [03:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0395 BTC [-] [03:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1777 @ 0.0003652 = 0.649 BTC [+] [03:53]
mircea_popescu o wow gsdpt [03:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.5018 BTC [+] [03:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.50198 = 3.0119 BTC [+] [04:00]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 12912 @ 0.00100105 = 12.9256 BTC [+] [04:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 21 @ 0.502 = 10.542 BTC [+] [04:02]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 7088 @ 0.00100105 = 7.0954 BTC [+] [04:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.5048 BTC [+] [04:03]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 20000 @ 0.00100157 = 20.0314 BTC [-] [04:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.505 = 2.525 BTC [+] [04:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.51878 BTC [+] [04:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 50 @ 0.51898 = 25.949 BTC [+] [04:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 0.59999999 BTC [-] [04:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] [04:08]
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Bugpowder nice... the MPCD trading bot that has been putting out unfavorable bid ask spreads for people to pick up didn't realize dividends haven't been paid yet [04:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.10820699 BTC [+] [04:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3700 @ 0.00044186 = 1.6349 BTC [-] [04:29]
knotwork I dont like dividends, confusing the prices is just part of why [04:31]
knotwork I suppose eventually there will be some kind of meta-client for issuers that will go around to all places they issued some of their shares and handle dividends at that outlet but seems like a lot of added complexity [04:32]
mircea_popescu if there were no dividends fictional issues would just carry on infinitely. [04:33]
knotwork well yeah but if you consider games fictional then that need not be a bad thing [04:33]
mircea_popescu i guess so [04:34]
knotwork most of my players seem unlikely to ever sell any shares that provide dividends [04:34]
knotwork as they are just free money forever for doing nothing [04:34]
knotwork but without dividends, they have to actually sell some to manifest their profits or rwards or capital [04:34]
knotwork so more likely to actually find a seller if there are no dividends [04:35]
knotwork seriously these are mostly not people really into the forex/stocks/bonds parts of the game, they dont sit there figuring out hey I could sell these shares to buy those other shares [04:35]
knotwork instead they just look at their magic money from no-where readout and add to it when they can [04:36]
mircea_popescu you need defaults. [04:36]
knotwork well I can show them the "nav" type readout too, how much their moneymachine is worth if they sold it [04:37]
knotwork if they see that go down they might look inside to see which went down [04:37]
knotwork but if its still paying dividends they likely wont care how much it is supposedly worth since they already own it [04:38]
knotwork I mean these guys have rooms full of magic swords they never bother to take to a shop to sell, they are hoarders [04:38]
mircea_popescu defaults man. look at glbse [04:38]
mircea_popescu every week practically there's a default. [04:38]
knotwork you mean defaulting on paying divs? [04:39]
knotwork or some kind of default that could apply to assets that do not do divs? [04:39]
mircea_popescu to all assets. [04:39]
mircea_popescu every day there's a chance it goes to shit. [04:39]
mircea_popescu so they have to pick the good ones. [04:40]
knotwork that sounds like "exchange rates" [04:40]
knotwork if they see that Martian BotCoins cost more DeVCoins each all the time they might sell DVC to buy MBC [04:40]
knotwork but they dont need dividends for that [04:40]
knotwork but look at supposedly "dead" altcoins, you don't see everyone running around trying to sell what they have hoarded of them [04:41]
mircea_popescu if a company defaults share = 0 [04:42]
knotwork they just don't visit those rooms of their hoard unless they hear the things have started to be valuable again [04:42]
knotwork not sure what they defaulted on though? what constitutes a default? [04:42]
knotwork the death of the character who is sole owner maybe [04:43]
knotwork but if shares are common stock even death of owner surely just means shareholders can elect new board of directors? [04:43]
mircea_popescu sounds to me this game economy has serious problems of balance [04:43]
knotwork so maybe have stock exchange fees or periodic business license renewals or something [04:43]
knotwork so if they fail to pay the fees to stay a live corp they get dissolved [04:44]
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mircea_popescu some sort of expenses, being that they're businesses. [04:45]
knotwork do you mean bankruptcy? if they somehow manage to go into debt (its pretty foolish to let them in the first place, loaner should hold collateral) then failure to pay is the default you are talking about? [04:45]
knotwork I had actually considered accounting hosting fees even for un-played nations, thinking maybe anyone who later takes over that population faces those fees, as if its kind of cumulative falling apart of society that new ruler will need to make up for to get full value from the conquered people [04:47]
knotwork I was talked out of that though, instead just charge each nation by the "square miles" freeciv records their nation as in control/ownership of [04:48]
knotwork the big picture with games requires constantly remembering that no matter how much "assets" there are running around in cycles, ultimately you cannot take more out than you put in [04:50]
knotwork thus no matter how stinking rich the whole shebang sounds from its pretty names and numbers, really any "profit" investors stand to gain boils down to only however much players are willing to pay to play [04:51]
knotwork unfortunately for some parties though, the distinctions between "player" and "investor" blur, a slippery slope [04:51]
knotwork but a big part of my goal has always been to be able to have inestments inside the game that are not, like in EVE online, all invariably scams [04:52]
knotwork the game system has to enable characters to be able to actually invest in things that are not, in the game at least, scams [04:53]
knotwork it can always be argued that gaming on the whole top down view is itself a scam or that any one or all of the *coins used to play with are, and so on [04:53]
knotwork (fiat certain is... ;)) [04:54]
knotwork cetainLY is [04:54]
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dub http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/09/30/2345206/bitcoin-gets-a-futures-market [05:15]
mircea_popescu While this sounds intriguing, I'd like to hear a good case for why BitCoin makes sense in this context. [05:16]
mircea_popescu does not. [05:17]
copumpkin I hope they bring back pork bellies [05:18]
copumpkin cause I was bummed when they took those off the CME [05:18]
mircea_popescu im trying ;/ [05:19]
copumpkin except I'm not in it to trade them [05:21]
copumpkin I WANNA EAT THEM ALL [05:21]
copumpkin I only buy pork bellies futures for delivery [05:21]
mircea_popescu that's the point [05:22]
mircea_popescu futures w/o delivery = some idiot with 50 grams of weed and 20 grams of gold selling shares. [05:22]
copumpkin well, I don't think most futures traders really want delivery [05:24]
copumpkin at least not the speculators [05:24]
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mircea_popescu nevertheless. [05:27]
mircea_popescu on the internet nobody knows you're http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/132481730184.jpg [05:29]
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mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 i take it you've seen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=91c9128d117a8258e61427f4d3fc1455&topic=114442.0 ? [12:49]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: this should be interesting [12:52]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: photoshop one of those xbox achievement unlocked things [12:54]
Diablo-D3 "scammer tag" [12:54]
mircea_popescu lol [12:55]
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rg hey imsaguy [13:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.00002 = 7 BTC [13:26]
Diablo-D3 rg: all of them [13:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] [PAID] 400000 @ 0.00003 = 12 BTC [13:27]
rg Diablo-D3: enzu just gave me two faulty disks [13:27]
rg TWO [13:27]
rg in the same machine [13:27]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.00009268 = 32.43671515 BTC [13:28]
rg tbh [13:28]
rg i think you dodged a bullet [13:28]
Diablo-D3 rg: not my problem [13:28]
Diablo-D3 yeah I think I did [13:28]
rg as fucked up as that might seem [13:28]
rg you mightve [13:28]
Diablo-D3 I dunno, I just have an entire load of dont give a fuck right now [13:28]
rg i asked the owner [13:28]
rg about nenolod [13:29]
rg he didn't want to talk about it [13:29]
rg so i can only imagine [13:29]
Diablo-D3 nenolod quit on him because he refused to quit fucking up [13:29]
rg he tells me everything usually [13:29]
Diablo-D3 I dont know who this steve character is, but he sounds like a fucking asshole [13:29]
Diablo-D3 not the kind of company DMC wants to be doing business with [13:29]
rg oh yeah [13:29]
rg steve is the main guy [13:29]
rg he's in the shadows [13:29]
rg but i think he's majority owner [13:29]
rg nick and neno were the frontends [13:30]
Diablo-D3 steve accidently deleted half of neno's vpses [13:30]
Diablo-D3 including the atheme and cia.vc ones [13:30]
rg 'accident' [13:30]
rg see [13:30]
rg when i terminate customers [13:30]
rg i usually leave their VMs [13:30]
rg for up to a month [13:30]
rg or when people dont pay [13:30]
rg i still save the data, just in case i get an email like [13:30]
Diablo-D3 yes, but he managed to alienate every customer ever with that move [13:30]
rg 'omg i was out of town' [13:30]
rg 'you have our main src tree!' [13:30]
rg cause its actually happened [13:31]
Diablo-D3 rg: oh, and they want me to pay for my vps now [13:31]
Diablo-D3 no more professional courtesy for nenolod [13:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30238 @ 0.00036223 = 10.9531 BTC [-] [13:31]
rg their vps are dirt cheap [13:31]
rg do you need a bitvps [13:31]
Diablo-D3 still aint paying for one [13:31]
rg ill give you a free vps [13:32]
rg a small one but it will be free [13:32]
Diablo-D3 I wanna see what nenolod does [13:32]
rg he'll either start his own place [13:32]
rg or go work for smeone [13:32]
rg he's still flush with cash [13:32]
rg so he could do anything [13:32]
Diablo-D3 hes interested in the DMC plan, surprisingly [13:32]
rg he probably got like 100k from his vps company [13:33]
rg and monthly divs [13:33]
rg steve is an asshole [13:33]
rg hes the one who complains when i get deals [13:33]
Diablo-D3 I dunno, maybe Ill go work for nenolod for a change [13:33]
rg he was complaining that i didn't get charged for these two disks [13:33]
rg its a $45 charge to get two disks installed [13:34]
rg i was like yeah [13:34]
rg im not pying that [13:34]
rg you took 3 days to do it [13:34]
mircea_popescu what's with gox volume [13:35]
mircea_popescu 10k a day nao ?! [13:35]
rg 8 weeks til block half!!! [13:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 4 @ 0.45899999 = 1.836 BTC [+] [13:36]
rg my litecoin pool is LIGHTING it up [13:36]
rg i did over 700 LTC the other day [13:36]
mircea_popescu lol cool [13:36]
rg that's like 200 over average [13:36]
rg for my rate [13:36]
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nenolod the returns on OBSI.HRPT became disappointing. [13:46]
Diablo-D3 obsi is closing all of his assets and buying everything back [13:46]
Diablo-D3 blame nefario [13:46]
nenolod oh, so *you* are the reason i quit making decent BTC per day [13:47]
nenolod thanks Diablo-D3 [13:47]
Diablo-D3 no, nefario is attacking everyone [13:47]
Diablo-D3 he delisted all of goat's assets [13:47]
nenolod whoever that is [13:47]
Diablo-D3 large miner and also ran a pirate passthrough [13:47]
nenolod all i know is [13:47]
nenolod DMC went to shit [13:48]
nenolod and then my OBSI.HRPT went to shit [13:48]
Diablo-D3 yup, you can thank nefario for all of that [13:48]
nenolod thusly i am blaming you [13:48]
Diablo-D3 no one asked him to lock DMC's account and fuck over the market [13:48]
mircea_popescu nenolod http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134654389322.png [13:48]
nenolod yeah seems about right [13:49]
mircea_popescu myeah. [13:49]
nenolod i wonder which is more reliable [13:50]
nenolod GLBSE [13:50]
nenolod or HDDs from Enzu [13:50]
nenolod rg: ^^^^ [13:50]
Diablo-D3 thats a tough call >_> [13:50]
Diablo-D3 nenolod: anyhow, I repurchased almost half of the DMC shares out there [13:51]
Diablo-D3 Im probably going to keep repurchasing them until nefario pulls his head out of his ass [13:52]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 if you rebuy the entire lot that'll prolly be the best closure for dmc. [13:52]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: that'll take awhile [13:52]
mircea_popescu didn't you say you bought half ? [13:52]
Diablo-D3 yes [13:52]
mircea_popescu well so. [13:53]
Diablo-D3 did it using the obsi.abmo money [13:53]
mircea_popescu so splurge a little. [13:53]
mircea_popescu think about it this way : if anyone bought at ipo 1 btc and sold at .05 or w/e, they took a 95 btc loss per 100 shares [13:53]
mircea_popescu if you put in 100 btc of your own money that won't hurt anything. [13:54]
nenolod Active Devices : 2 [13:54]
nenolod Working Devices : 0 [13:54]
nenolod Failed Devices : 2 [13:54]
nenolod Spare Devices : 0 [13:54]
Diablo-D3 and where do I GET 100btc of my own money? [13:54]
nenolod rg: soooo glad my shit runs in a ramdisk [13:54]
Luceo 100 BTC is only like $1200 [13:54]
Diablo-D3 Luceo: exactly [13:54]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 that's a question for the ages. [13:54]
Diablo-D3 thats money I dont have [13:54]
nenolod i lost like [13:54]
Luceo Ouch :( [13:54]
mircea_popescu same place kludge does i guess [13:54]
nenolod 500 BTC [13:54]
nenolod playing GLBSE [13:54]
Diablo-D3 nenolod: on what? [13:54]
Diablo-D3 lol [13:54]
Diablo-D3 thats lame =/ [13:55]
mircea_popescu nenolod sucks. then again, glbse has lost people more than pirate [13:55]
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mircea_popescu over the years. [13:55]
Luceo I lost over 500 BTC on pirate :/ [13:55]
nenolod i think it would have been better spent playing Dragon's Tale. [13:55]
Diablo-D3 I dont trust nefario with anything anymore [13:55]
Diablo-D3 he just fucks up anything he touches [13:55]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 nobody does, pretty much. [13:55]
Diablo-D3 including DMC [13:55]
nenolod or perhaps getting e-tail on secondlife [13:55]
Diablo-D3 I think if I ever start another company, Im only going to take money from professional VCs. [13:55]
mircea_popescu nenolod why not brave up and get irl tail ? [13:55]
Diablo-D3 at least they arent fucktards and know how the game is played [13:55]
mircea_popescu for 500 btc you can have a bunch. [13:55]
nenolod mircea_popescu: been there, done that [13:56]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 hahaha right. [13:56]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: he has that sitting like 5 feet from him [13:56]
nenolod mircea_popescu: but that involves currency exchanges [13:56]
mircea_popescu just give her cascucisocosacacuricocosuco wtf his name is coins [13:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37568 @ 0.00036015 = 13.5301 BTC [-] [13:56]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu fails at roman names. [13:56]
mircea_popescu was it cuntclicker ? [13:56]
Diablo-D3 says the guy that blogs about beating women with a stick [13:57]
nenolod wow [13:57]
mircea_popescu i also beat them with a chain. [13:57]
nenolod he truly is romanian! [13:57]
nenolod anyway [13:57]
nenolod glbse is a scam [13:57]
nenolod which is too bad [13:58]
nenolod cause i was like [13:58]
nenolod gonna dump way more than 500 BTC in it [13:58]
nenolod WAY more [13:58]
Diablo-D3 nenolod: yes, glbse is a scam and it scammed my investors out of every dime and it scammed me out of a company. [13:58]
rg hey look its neno [13:58]
nenolod shut up your company wasn't incorporated in maine [13:58]
rg nenolod: lol i used those 2TB disks again [13:58]
nenolod so none of that was legal [13:58]
mircea_popescu nenolod mpex. [13:58]
rg both defective [13:58]
nenolod rg: i don't work at enzu anymore [13:59]
rg i know [13:59]
rg im har haring with you [13:59]
nenolod rg: i'm not unhappy about that [13:59]
rg about shitty hardware [13:59]
nenolod :D [13:59]
rg they have [13:59]
rg they have a support guy now [13:59]
rg his last name is Kumar [13:59]
nenolod what [13:59]
mircea_popescu Omar Kumar ? [13:59]
rg no i forget his first name [13:59]
nenolod they already fired Roy and Travis? [13:59]
rg its just funny cause its kumar [14:00]
rg harold and kumar [14:00]
mircea_popescu Sticky Kumar [14:00]
rg i dont know what im going to do [14:00]
rg i need 4TB in this server [14:00]
mircea_popescu jack off ? [14:00]
nenolod rg: i walked away from enzu after their support lead guy said i was a "level 2 tech" and yet i spent my time doing /his/ job, as well as my own [14:00]
rg and this stupid i7 only has 2 hd slots [14:00]
rg umm [14:01]
rg i thougt you were the lead support [14:01]
nenolod rg: no they spliced in more management [14:01]
nenolod rg: because, management is always the solution! [14:01]
rg lets just blame it on steve [14:01]
rg even if he didn't do it [14:01]
rg hes a dick [14:01]
nenolod steve has assburgers syndrome [14:01]
nenolod seriously [14:01]
rg dude [14:01]
nenolod he left me hanging [14:01]
rg that wouldn ot surprise me [14:01]
rg at all [14:01]
nenolod on so much shit [14:01]
rg infact [14:01]
nenolod he is like [14:01]
rg it would explain a lot [14:02]
nenolod "go talk to PCCW" [14:02]
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nenolod "we need to get 1gbit of PCCW on 10gbit link" [14:02]
rg how are you meant to do that [14:02]
nenolod ok we can do that at $1/mbit and have it installed tomorrow, we just need your CEO to sign off [14:02]
rg you're not authorized to buy [14:02]
rg exactly [14:02]
nenolod "actually we need something else, ask them if they can do something else" [14:02]
nenolod i mean i worked leads that i will not be able to work anymore because i got burned [14:03]
nenolod thanks steve! [14:03]
nenolod rg: i am just wondering when the rapidxen brand necrophilia will start [14:04]
rg yeah [14:04]
rg i decided not to get any more boxes from enzu [14:04]
nenolod the funny thing about steve is [14:04]
rg i have a few that will need to be maintained [14:04]
nenolod when you prove that he contradicted himself [14:04]
rg but other than that [14:04]
rg im going with Alec [14:04]
nenolod he stops talking [14:05]
rg (from wht) [14:05]
nenolod i am out of hosting [14:05]
nenolod yay for being out of hosting [14:05]
rg Alec knows that you need staff [14:05]
rg hes no guru [14:05]
rg but he has proper staff [14:05]
rg things he cant do.. he has people to do [14:05]
rg and that's what enzu doesnt have [14:05]
mircea_popescu nenolod going full time on wikipedia ? [14:05]
nenolod rg: things were going great when steve shut up and let me do my job [14:06]
rg nick is kinda patronizing sometimes [14:06]
rg hes like asking me to prove the disks are faulty [14:06]
rg im like dude [14:06]
rg its from a batch of disks we KNOW were defective [14:06]
rg why do i need to show you systme logs [14:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 12 @ 0.149253 = 1.791 BTC [+] [14:06]
nenolod rg: i got some pretty cool things going on at enzu for a little while anyway [14:06]
rg well [14:06]
rg you saved my ass [14:06]
rg kinda [14:06]
rg i mean, you ruined my raid array [14:06]
rg but it wasnt too bad [14:06]
rg coulda been worse [14:07]
nenolod i didn't do any permanent damage to it [14:07]
nenolod and that wasn't my fault, actually [14:07]
nenolod the stupid webbios crap fucked me [14:07]
rg well [14:07]
rg you finally handed the box bac over to me [14:07]
rg and i got what i needed [14:07]
rg at least you knew when to give it over [14:07]
nenolod yes [14:07]
nenolod and steve was shouting in my ear saying "don't do that!" [14:08]
nenolod i am like "fuck you, i'm doing that, fire me if you want" [14:08]
rg yeah [14:08]
rg steve hates me [14:08]
rg but i dont give a shit [14:08]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 45616 @ 0.00100002 = 45.6169 BTC [+] [14:08]
rg the service he provides is shit [14:08]
nenolod rg: he invoiced me [14:08]
nenolod rg: for rapidxen vps [14:08]
nenolod rg: i am like "lol" [14:08]
rg hahaha [14:08]
rg oh man [14:09]
rg what an asshole [14:09]
rg hahah [14:09]
rg he would [14:09]
nenolod i probably shouldn't talk shit about enzu until this rsync finishes [14:09]
nenolod if it finishes [14:09]
nenolod since my raid is FUCKED [14:09]
nenolod great HDDs [14:09]
nenolod i guess i won't have to worry about running kash(1) on this machine [14:09]
rg those RE3's havent failed yet [14:10]
rg so that's good [14:10]
nenolod since i could just see steve as the type of guy [14:10]
nenolod who would take a tromp through my dedi [14:10]
rg theyre pretty slow [14:10]
nenolod to see if he could steal any of my own IP [14:10]
rg you know what we should do [14:10]
rg with your rapidxen money [14:10]
rg flip houses [14:10]
rg and make a tv show about it [14:11]
nenolod be all like [14:11]
nenolod vanilla ice up in this shit [14:11]
nenolod ? [14:11]
rg 'two beginners, flush with cash, take the housing market by STORM' [14:11]
rg and we script in mistakes [14:11]
rg and make it a learning thing [14:11]
nenolod not even kidding... http://www.diynetwork.com/the-vanilla-ice-project/show/index.html [14:11]
nenolod script in mistakes [14:11]
Diablo-D3 heh [14:11]
nenolod "OH SHIT, THAT WAS AN ENZU-GRADE FUCK UP THERE" [14:11]
Diablo-D3 so wait [14:11]
nenolod "BY THE WAY NEVER GO WITH ENZU FOR HOSTING THEY WILL DO THIS WITH YOUR SERVER LOLOLOLOL" [14:11]
Diablo-D3 rewind [14:11]
rg aw [14:11]
rg he stole our idea [14:11]
Diablo-D3 steve is basically a kash-grade ceo [14:12]
Diablo-D3 [06:58:39] shut up your company wasn't incorporated in maine [14:12]
Diablo-D3 it would have been, though [14:12]
nenolod rg: in my 13 year old career of doing this, i've worked from everyone from stallman to phillip rosedale, and i have yet to meet anyone as fucked up in the head as CEO as steve is [14:12]
rg we're incorporated in Florida [14:12]
rg not cause grubles lives there [14:12]
rg cause it was the cheapest [14:12]
nenolod oklahoma is like 100 bux [14:12]
nenolod you just say [14:13]
rg yeah we paid like $80 for fl [14:13]
nenolod "i want to start a company" [14:13]
nenolod they are like [14:13]
nenolod "$100 please" [14:13]
Diablo-D3 maine isnt cheap [14:13]
mircea_popescu i think delaware is the cheapest [14:13]
rg no [14:13]
rg deleware isnt [14:13]
Diablo-D3 but at least the tax money would stay in maine [14:13]
mircea_popescu i think i paid like 150 but it included a bunch of trims [14:13]
rg lots of people do delaware [14:13]
rg i think it looks sketchy [14:13]
nenolod oklahoma lets you create bullshit legal entities [14:13]
nenolod for $50 [14:13]
mircea_popescu if i did just registration it would have been like 70 or something i think [14:13]
nenolod it is great [14:13]
mircea_popescu o, really ? [14:14]
rg i wonder what ever happened with my better business burea complaint [14:14]
rg i responded to the guy [14:14]
nenolod enzu has an F rating with BBB [14:14]
mircea_popescu rg it will be handled professionally and fairly [14:14]
nenolod lulz [14:14]
mircea_popescu in 2021 [14:14]
rg this guy claimed the enzu dc wasnt in california [14:14]
rg at all [14:14]
rg and that it was in nevada [14:14]
Diablo-D3 enzu has more than one dc [14:14]
rg and because of that, he should get a 2 month refund [14:14]
rg diablo-d3: this box was in california [14:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.6 = 1.8 BTC [-] [14:15]
rg he never complained once in two months [14:15]
rg then he didn't pay his bill on time [14:15]
Diablo-D3 yeah fuck him [14:15]
rg so i was like wtf [14:15]
nenolod the dc is in 530 w 6th [14:15]
rg yeah [14:15]
nenolod i've seen steve's fibres in the MMR before [14:15]
rg same as webnx [14:15]
nenolod before even working for enzu [14:15]
rg im pretty sure the BBB discarded the complaint [14:16]
rg lets see [14:16]
rg maybe i can find the url [14:16]
nenolod ok let me reiterate [14:16]
nenolod i worked with the guy who invented fucking Mork [14:16]
rg Case ADMINISTRATIVELY CLOSED (More) [14:16]
rg owned. [14:16]
nenolod and steve is more crazy than that guy [14:17]
nenolod and that guy is bonafide crazy has multiple personalities which fucking debate each other on IRC [14:17]
nenolod and steve is more crazy than that guy [14:17]
nenolod seriously. [14:17]
nenolod the guy is all over the place [14:17]
Diablo-D3 has anyone even seen nefario lately, btw? [14:17]
rg arf [14:18]
rg our BBB rating isnt great [14:18]
nenolod F- [14:18]
nenolod got it [14:18]
rg its a B- [14:18]
Diablo-D3 BBB is a scam anyhow [14:18]
nenolod F-! [14:18]
rg http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-reviews/computers-hardware-software-and-services/bitvpscom-in-lakeland-fl-90168487 [14:18]
Diablo-D3 I think all companies should boycott it [14:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 119 @ 0.000128 = 0.0152 BTC [-] [14:18]
rg yeah we werent even signed up for it [14:18]
rg when i got it i was like wtf? [14:18]
Diablo-D3 its a private company that is paid by its members to protect companies [14:18]
Diablo-D3 rg: yeah [14:18]
Diablo-D3 and you can sue them for that too [14:18]
rg im a gentleman [14:19]
Diablo-D3 you are not a customer and it damages your company's reputation to be associated with them [14:19]
rg i dont go suing people [14:19]
rg BBB found business made good faith effort to resolve complaint but customer not satisfied with business response [14:19]
rg haa [14:20]
rg +1 BitVPS [14:20]
rg let me translate [14:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 15295 @ 0.0034 = 52.003 BTC [+] [14:20]
rg "BitVPS did what they were supposed to and the customer was an asshole' [14:20]
Diablo-D3 http://porn.serverbear.com/ [14:20]
Diablo-D3 wat [14:20]
nenolod serverbear is such a joke [14:21]
Diablo-D3 >steadfast networks [14:21]
Diablo-D3 >1tb of ssd [14:21]
rg enzu is in steadfast now [14:21]
rg i want some of that [14:21]
Diablo-D3 bullshit*cough* [14:21]
rg if i could get the same E5 i have now [14:21]
rg in Steadfast [14:21]
rg i would [14:21]
Diablo-D3 yeah fuck that [14:21]
Diablo-D3 I'd rather have my own DC [14:21]
Diablo-D3 at least then I know it'd be ran competently =/ [14:21]
rg Chicago is a very popular node for us [14:21]
rg so getting more would be good [14:22]
rg i like to do it like this: [14:22]
rg 2 machines in the same state, hosted by different ISPs [14:22]
rg which we do in cali, we have WebNX and Enzu [14:22]
rg in Chicago, we'd have SingleHop and Steadfast [14:22]
nenolod i wish i had sold SIP to someone other than Enzu [14:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [-] [14:22]
nenolod seriously. [14:22]
Diablo-D3 nenolod: yeah =/ [14:22]
rg in Dallas, we'd have TMS (horrible) and probably that guy in#bitcoin-otc's company [14:22]
rg TMS are awful [14:23]
rg you can sniff every single customer [14:23]
Diablo-D3 nenolod: DMC was going to start reselling enzu's shit, but not now [14:23]
rg i had to setup static arp cause of their incompetance [14:23]
rg yeah good thing you didn't [14:23]
rg i was going to sabotage you [14:23]
rg i had a plan and everything [14:23]
rg but im glad i didn't have to do it [14:23]
Diablo-D3 oh shuddup rg [14:23]
Diablo-D3 you couldnt plan your way out of a wet paper bag [14:24]
rg yeah... have you ever seen me slander anyone? [14:24]
Diablo-D3 nope. [14:24]
rg yeah [14:24]
rg cause they all died from it [14:24]
rg you dont want none of that pie [14:24]
Diablo-D3 rg: dude, people think I ran lilo over with a ford taraus [14:25]
Diablo-D3 are you REALLY sure you want to piss me off? [14:25]
rg cause you ran over some source code with a car? [14:25]
rg wtf do i care about that? [14:25]
Diablo-D3 nenolod: halp, rg is is trolling me :< [14:25]
rg no i dont understand what you mean [14:25]
rg is lilo a person? [14:25]
Diablo-D3 rg: guy who founded freenode [14:25]
rg oh [14:26]
rg good [14:26]
rg freenode is a stupid name [14:26]
rg and the 3 prior networks sucked too [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.30320001 BTC [-] [14:26]
Diablo-D3 the previous three names were worse [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.3032 = 0.6064 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 16 @ 0.3031 = 4.8496 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 10 @ 0.303 = 3.03 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.30291 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.30271 = 1.5136 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.3027 = 0.6054 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.3026 = 0.6052 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 3 @ 0.3025 = 0.9075 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.302301 = 0.6046 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.3008 = 1.2032 BTC [-] [14:26]
rg SELL [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.2902 BTC [-] [14:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] [14:26]
nenolod Diablo-D3: rob levin was a friend of mine and really discussing the tragic incident of him being hit by an automobile has really become daft to discuss [14:26]
rg glbse assets are too damn expensive [14:27]
rg .2 [14:27]
rg fuck that [14:27]
nenolod glbse assets are not worth the website they are presented on [14:27]
nenolod which is pretty sad because glbse itself is shit [14:27]
nenolod ;p [14:27]
rg probably cause glbse is enzu powered [14:27]
nenolod is it really [14:28]
rg parts of it [14:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.10276 BTC [+] [14:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.10277 = 0.2055 BTC [+] [14:28]
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rg hey asshole [14:31]
rg do you want a free vps [14:31]
rg im not going to leave the offer on the table [14:31]
nenolod sure, i could use some free vpses not hosted by enzu [14:34]
nenolod :D [14:34]
rg you're not an asshole [14:34]
rg i was talking to diablo [14:34]
rg he was complaining about getting billed by enzu [14:34]
mircea_popescu lol. you'e not an asshole so no free vps! [14:35]
nenolod rg: i made richard stallman cry [14:35]
rg i dont know who any of these people are [14:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0003586 = 1.9006 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00035838 = 6.9884 BTC [-] [14:36]
nenolod admittedly, i was grilling him over dotgnu when he did so [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30826 @ 0.00035828 = 11.0443 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00035824 = 5.2661 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68400 @ 0.00035814 = 24.4968 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59000 @ 0.0003581 = 21.1279 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00035808 = 8.2358 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64354 @ 0.00035799 = 23.0381 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7317 @ 0.00035798 = 2.6193 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66700 @ 0.00035768 = 23.8573 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00035751 = 12.8704 BTC [-] [14:36]
mircea_popescu arf [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16123 @ 0.00035714 = 5.7582 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00035712 = 13.9277 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00035677 = 10.3463 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00035651 = 10.0892 BTC [-] [14:36]
mircea_popescu stop selling me omg [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52886 @ 0.00035645 = 18.8512 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00035632 = 5.2379 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00035627 = 9.9756 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14579 @ 0.00035605 = 5.1909 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00035601 = 6.337 BTC [-] [14:36]
rg i cant [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00035585 = 1.9216 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52700 @ 0.00035541 = 18.7301 BTC [-] [14:36]
rg i need the money [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41690 @ 0.00035511 = 14.8045 BTC [-] [14:36]
rg sorry [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70300 @ 0.00035469 = 24.9347 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00035337 = 2.4383 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58300 @ 0.00035268 = 20.5612 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00035041 = 18.2564 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00035038 = 14.716 BTC [-] [14:36]
nenolod what is this S.MPOE thing [14:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35125 @ 0.00035 = 12.2938 BTC [-] [14:36]
mircea_popescu omg i'll get you for this. [14:36]
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rg .0003 profit for rg [14:36]
rg arf [14:36]
rg (per share) [14:36]
mircea_popescu .py 0.00035038/0.0003586 [14:36]
markac 0.977077523703 [14:36]
mircea_popescu laffable. there's like... no slippage. [14:37]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.mpoe [14:37]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00035 / 0.00036095 / 0.00036664 (3896786 shares, 1,406.58 BTC), 30day: 0.00034 / 0.0003918 / 0.00042 (62261778 shares, 24,394.38 BTC) [14:37]
rg if it goes a little lower [14:37]
rg im gonna buy in [14:37]
nenolod what is [14:37]
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nenolod s.mpoe [14:37]
mircea_popescu rg that's what they all say [14:37]
rg i wonder if that 0004 was a fluke [14:37]
mircea_popescu nenolod my stock exchange and options broker corp. [14:37]
rg aka nothing [14:37]
mircea_popescu it made ~4500 btc last month, wyhich is like... 25% of all btc mined that interval [14:38]
rg its a ponzi [14:38]
mircea_popescu and as a result these assholes sold me into shit :( 42 to 35 [14:38]
nenolod yay ponzis [14:38]
nenolod so it's like DMC [14:38]
nenolod got it [14:38]
mircea_popescu it's nothing like dmc lol. [14:38]
rg they shoulda made me the admin of DMC [14:39]
rg that would be funny [14:39]
mircea_popescu for one, it's market cap is like 350k btc. for the other, share went up not down. [14:39]
nenolod they should have made me the admin of DMC [14:39]
nenolod NONO [14:39]
nenolod NO [14:39]
nenolod NO [14:39]
rg i would love to give diablo his tiny pittance [14:39]
nenolod rg: they should have made STEVE the admin of DMC. [14:39]
nenolod oh god [14:39]
nenolod steve used bitcoin for like [14:39]
nenolod 2 minutes [14:39]
nenolod and was like "omg i didn't make any moniez" [14:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 304 @ 0.0034 = 1.0336 BTC [-] [14:40]
rg most people dont [14:40]
rg they join thinking theyre going to make $1mil [14:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 3 @ 0.11 = 0.33 BTC [-] [14:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [-] [14:40]
mircea_popescu and then they "invest" it [14:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 5 @ 0.101 = 0.505 BTC [-] [14:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 26 @ 0.100001 = 2.6 BTC [-] [14:40]
rg and pirateat40 steals it all [14:40]
mircea_popescu srsly pirate stole less than glbse so far. [14:40]
OneEyed Eh, according to betsofbitcoin, I had bet that MPEX would not be hacked before the end of September. Did I win? [14:41]
OneEyed (I had totally forgotten about that bet) [14:42]
mircea_popescu OneEyed well it didn't get hacked [14:42]
nenolod i wish i was pirateat40 [14:42]
mircea_popescu link to bet ? [14:42]
OneEyed http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=566 [14:42]
nenolod i'd go get a private island and not give a shit [14:42]
OneEyed Total agree bets: 0.30 [14:42]
OneEyed Total disagree bets: 11.72 [14:42]
OneEyed Shit, I won't win much :) [14:42]
mircea_popescu haha [14:42]
OneEyed (agree means "MPEX will get hacked") [14:42]
mircea_popescu .py .3 / 11.72 [14:42]
markac 0.0255972696246 [14:42]
mircea_popescu them's some odds... [14:43]
rg nenolod [14:43]
rg me too [14:43]
rg i was looking at the private island website the other day [14:43]
rg i would get an island on a huge lake [14:43]
rg so i can still get internet/power [14:43]
rg id love an island in hte middle of no where but i wont be able to deal with satelite internet [14:43]
mircea_popescu get cable [14:44]
OneEyed My 0.1 should get me back around 0.381 due to the way bets are weighted [14:44]
mircea_popescu OneEyed you can't get more than the total agree can you [14:44]
rg mircea_popescu: its kinda expensive to get the cable co to run a 20mi coax through a body of water [14:44]
rg though i could totally run it myself [14:44]
mircea_popescu rg so ? you got dough [14:44]
rg and just have a splitter [14:44]
rg at the beach [14:44]
nenolod rg: just get someone high on meth with an AR-15 [14:44]
rg but then id be vulnerable to sabotage [14:44]
nenolod rg: that will keep bitcoin people away [14:44]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: fortunately, as in every bets, the amount paid by the winners is redistributed as well :) [14:44]
rg i guess i should probably stop bdk_kludges vps [14:45]
rg since he defaulted and didn't pay his bill [14:45]
mircea_popescu OneEyed yes but to themselves neh ?! [14:45]
mircea_popescu rg prolly. [14:45]
rg that'll free up a nice chunk of ram [14:45]
rg for disk cache [14:45]
rg nice [14:45]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: the total amount paid by betters is redistributed to winners, minus 5% fee for the site and 5% for the creator of the bet if I remember well [14:45]
mircea_popescu so you stand to make [14:46]
OneEyed My weighted bet is 60.909 according to the site [14:46]
OneEyed For a total of 1729.980 weighted winning bets [14:46]
mircea_popescu .py (.1 / 11.72) * (.3+11.72) [14:46]
markac 0.102559726962 [14:46]
OneEyed So I get: (0.30+11.72)*.9*60.909/1729.980 [14:46]
mircea_popescu o wow, weighted ? [14:46]
mircea_popescu .py (0.30+11.72)*.9*60.909/1729.980 [14:46]
markac 0.380879294558 [14:46]
mircea_popescu juicy ! [14:46]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: yes, the sooner you bet, the more your bet weights [14:46]
rg damn man [14:46]
mircea_popescu well, thanks for your early faith, it obviously was well placed. [14:47]
rg that's a cheeseburger+fries at a low end fast food joint [14:47]
OneEyed :) [14:47]
rg FOR FREE [14:47]
* nenolod installs audacious to see what the wonderful morons at AOL have done to it [14:47]
rg come on nenolod [14:47]
rg AOL HTTP server [14:47]
rg you know it was good [14:47]
rg dont hate [14:47]
mircea_popescu didn't tux make a php dns server ? [14:47]
nenolod AOLserver is actually a pretty nice product. [14:47]
rg well no shit [14:48]
rg that's why im saying dont hate [14:48]
rg its completely irrelevant today [14:48]
rg but it wast [14:48]
rg wasnt* [14:48]
rg at one point [14:48]
OneEyed Weighting bets makes sense, as the closer to the deadline you are, the less undecided the issue is, in most cases at least [14:48]
mircea_popescu yup [14:48]
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OneEyed Oh, that's not so simple, shit: http://betsofbitco.in/help [14:49]
mircea_popescu To promote early bettors on a statement, we distribute 45% of the lost bets such that early bettors get a larger share. [14:49]
mircea_popescu heh [14:49]
OneEyed I'll get: .1 + .3*.45*60.909/1729.980 + .3*.45*.1/11.72 [14:50]
OneEyed .py .1 + .3*.45*60.909/1729.980 + .3*.45*.1/11.72 [14:50]
markac 0.105904946533 [14:50]
OneEyed Only a 5.9% return :) [14:50]
nenolod cox is pissing me off. [14:50]
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nenolod Diablo-D3: http://www.tdstelecom.com/internet/high-speed-internet-without-phone/extreme-prime [14:50]
mircea_popescu OneEyed about as much as mpoe bonds [14:50]
nenolod Diablo-D3: is this ADSL2+? [14:50]
mircea_popescu There is a submission fee of 0.1 [14:51]
OneEyed Only for the bet creator [14:51]
mircea_popescu these people have a nice business. who owns betsofbitco.in ? [14:51]
OneEyed Who gets 5% of the losing bets anyway [14:51]
OneEyed So he only lost .85 by creating the bet :) [14:52]
mircea_popescu OneEyed yes but i bet you most bets don't get 2btc of losing bets. [14:52]
OneEyed This is probably to encourage you to create well-balanced bets [14:52]
OneEyed Which is also a good thing in itself [14:52]
nenolod rg: so did Diablo-D3 take his free replacement vps? [14:56]
nenolod :D [14:56]
nenolod think of the morality [14:57]
mircea_popescu someone should make a bitcoin savings and loan [15:00]
mircea_popescu based in somalia [15:00]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3400 @ 0.00044186 = 1.5023 BTC [+] [15:01]
nenolod bitcoin savings and macrolending [15:03]
nenolod BS&M [15:03]
nenolod :D [15:03]
mircea_popescu haha [15:04]
mircea_popescu Bitcoins Dubious Skulduggery with Money [15:04]
nenolod if only i was not a dual US/UK citizen [15:06]
nenolod and like [15:06]
nenolod russian or some shit [15:06]
nenolod i'd soooooo make a ponzi on this shit [15:06]
nenolod i'd be all like [15:06]
nenolod totally legit(tm) investment [15:06]
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Diablo-D3 back [15:12]
Diablo-D3 [07:50:46] Diablo-D3: http://www.tdstelecom.com/internet/high-speed-internet-without-phone/extreme-prime [15:12]
Diablo-D3 I dont think so [15:13]
Diablo-D3 adsl2+ with all the annexes maxes out at 24/3.5 [15:13]
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Diablo-D3 could be vdsl2 or unidls [15:13]
Diablo-D3 [07:26:57] Diablo-D3: rob levin was a friend of mine and really discussing the tragic incident of him being hit by an automobile has really become daft to discuss [15:15]
rg changity chang chang [15:15]
rg sup [15:15]
Diablo-D3 nenolod: hey, he was my friend too damnit [15:15]
Diablo-D3 as for the free vps [15:16]
Diablo-D3 nenolod: where did you put your shit? [15:16]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104489.msg1235258#msg1235258 lol moar usagi drama, this time with bakewell [15:18]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi you've been totally upstaged baby. [15:18]
mircea_popescu where upstaged baby is obviously rhyming slang for usagi [15:19]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: don't underestimate the problem: they are fighting over a whole 4 BTC! [15:19]
Chaang-Noi im off glbse so no more drama for me [15:19]
mircea_popescu OneEyed i saw. [15:19]
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mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi o i take it you've missed this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114442.0 ? [15:19]
Chaang-Noi yeah i missed it [15:20]
mircea_popescu dun miss it :D [15:20]
Chaang-Noi i will read it now [15:20]
OneEyed usagi: he passed a motion at your request from what I see, you required that to pay *him* back [15:20]
OneEyed as it is not insurance because of a default, but cancellation of the contract [15:21]
rg i might make a chicken omelette [15:21]
rg has anyone heard of thatb efore? [15:21]
rg chicken and cheese [15:21]
rg and eggs? [15:21]
rg i like all those things [15:21]
rg but im not sure if they should be mixed [15:21]
rg i could also make some noodles with the chicken [15:21]
OneEyed usagi: I don't troll, I just try to understand what I read. If you call that trolling, then call it trolling, but I'm hardly trying to escalate the debate into some heated argument or make anyone lose time [15:21]
rg instead of egg [15:22]
OneEyed I did. And I read that Ian Bakewell required that the contract be cancelled and the premiums reimbursed. And I seem to understand you agreed to that if his shareholders did agree as well. [15:22]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust OneEyed [15:22]
gribble Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user OneEyed: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=OneEyed [15:22]
OneEyed And I also totally agree that if there was a default, then you should pay the shareholders directly, not Ian Bakewell, as per the contract. [15:22]
rg ;;gettrust oneeyd [15:23]
gribble Trust relationship from user rg to user oneeyd: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=rg&dest=oneeyd [15:23]
rg ;;gettrust oneeyed [15:23]
gribble Trust relationship from user rg to user oneeyed: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=rg&dest=oneeyed [15:23]
rg ;;gettrust mircea_popescu [15:23]
gribble Trust relationship from user rg to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 39 via 22 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=rg&dest=mircea_popescu [15:23]
rg holy trust batman [15:23]
mircea_popescu omg scammor. [15:23]
rg ;;gettrust [ident diablo-d3] [15:23]
gribble Trust relationship from user rg to user Nick 'diablo-d3', with hostmask 'Diablo-D3!~diablo@pool-64-222-225-145.port.east.myfairpoint.net', is not identified.: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=rg&dest=Nick 'diablo-d3', with hostmask 'Diablo-D3!~diablo@pool-64-222-225-145.port.east.myfairpoint.net', is not identified. [15:23]
rg haha [15:23]
rg fail [15:23]
OneEyed ;;gettrust rg [15:24]
gribble Trust relationship from user OneEyed to user rg: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=OneEyed&dest=rg [15:24]
gribble Trust relationship from user usagi to user rg: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 15 via 10 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=usagi&dest=rg [15:24]
OneEyed Apparently, you should trust me more than I should trust you :) [15:24]
mircea_popescu lol [15:24]
gribble Trust relationship from user usagi to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 10 via 5 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=usagi&dest=mircea_popescu [15:24]
rg ;;gettrust coingenuity [15:25]
gribble Trust relationship from user rg to user coingenuity: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 12 via 6 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=rg&dest=coingenuity [15:25]
nenolod Diablo-D3: i just kicked in the 'nenolod hosting continuity endgame scenario' [15:25]
rg nenolod [15:25]
rg if you started a hosting company [15:25]
rg i would buy boxes from you [15:25]
nenolod rg: you should talk to openitc [15:26]
rg explain [15:26]
mircea_popescu rg : maybe you two should go in biz together [15:26]
mircea_popescu grow bvps [15:26]
nenolod nooooo [15:26]
nenolod i don't want to do hosting [15:26]
rg that's not the relationship we have [15:26]
nenolod i want to sell beer for a living [15:26]
nenolod beeeeeeeeeeer [15:26]
mircea_popescu nenolod ok you can do customer fellatio [15:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6570 @ 0.00035896 = 2.3584 BTC [+] [15:26]
rg bitvps needs a stable dedicated server provider [15:27]
rg i thought it was enzu [15:27]
rg but it isnt [15:27]
rg i know some other people who have nice stuff but $$ [15:27]
mircea_popescu gnax :D [15:27]
rg pff [15:28]
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rg you know gnax and i dont get along [15:28]
nenolod rg: see PM [15:28]
rg fuck their president [15:28]
mircea_popescu rg well, you moved dc i didn't. 1-0 muahaha [15:28]
rg i dont tolerate shit from our DCs [15:29]
rg i will inconvenience 30 customers to move [15:29]
rg ive done it [15:29]
mircea_popescu so why the hell is usagi attacking bakewell now. he seems reasonable enough ? am i missing something ? [15:29]
rg like 3 times [15:29]
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nenolod rg: i don't really want to get into hosting [15:30]
rg yeah [15:30]
rg getting into hosting now is like getting into bitcoin mining now [15:30]
rg lots of work for little output [15:30]
nenolod yeah it's pointless [15:30]
nenolod lolz [15:30]
mircea_popescu possibly works [15:30]
mircea_popescu worse* [15:30]
rg hrm [15:31]
rg why the hell isnt this transaction confirming [15:31]
rg its for like 8 btc [15:31]
nenolod anyway [15:31]
nenolod Diablo-D3: i kicked in the 'nenolod hosting continuity endgame scenario' [15:31]
nenolod Diablo-D3: wherein i took advantage of certain realities, to acquire hosting elsewhere at very cost-efficient prices. [15:32]
nenolod Diablo-D3: you see, i have had a contingency plan for that for years [15:33]
nenolod ;p [15:33]
Chaang-Noi glbse runs on cloudfqair right?? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113400.msg1235869#msg1235869 [15:33]
Chaang-Noi i wonder if nefario is aware of this... [15:34]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [15:34]
assbot BMF [1@0.49BTC] (since: 2012-09-25) paid: 0.01112149 BTC. Last price: 0.49 BTC. Capital gain: 0 BTC. Total: 0.01112149 BTC. (2.3%) [15:34]
mircea_popescu jesus god Chaang-Noi [15:34]
mircea_popescu that's the exact sort of thing i was talking about re http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/security-comparison-of-bitcoin-denominated-instruments-exchanges/ [15:35]
Chaang-Noi so to use glbse you should use tor... [15:35]
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Chaang-Noi i really wonder if that was by design or if nefario just is that ignorant. [15:36]
mircea_popescu he does use google analytics STILL [15:37]
mircea_popescu and has a twitter include STILL [15:37]
mircea_popescu he's just an imbecile is all. [15:37]
Chaang-Noi oh, i guess he just does not care about privacy [15:37]
Chaang-Noi seems important if you ar trying to sell an anon stock exchange... [15:38]
mircea_popescu i feel kind of sorry for the poor suckers who sent him passport pics or w/e [15:38]
nenolod i wouldn't do that. [15:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.07961 BTC [-] [15:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+] [15:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.45995 = 1.3799 BTC [+] [15:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4697 BTC [+] [15:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 8 @ 0.4698 = 3.7584 BTC [+] [15:40]
jurov mircea, that link says Acest articol nu este disponibil gratis. [15:40]
Chaang-Noi i was not that stupid... i sent it to gox, and wish i had not... but id never send to glbse [15:41]
Luceo I sent it to no-one [15:41]
Luceo I'm a bit paranoid that Gox will ask me to prove that my name really is Doctor Robotnik though :( [15:41]
jurov no problem, you'll have to fake the ID and electricity bill [15:42]
mircea_popescu jurov you p[rolly read more than 5 this week. it's a paid site. [15:44]
mircea_popescu hop on a proxy or something [15:44]
mircea_popescu lol Luceo [15:45]
Diablo-D3 how the hell does this channel talk this much [15:45]
rg i think this chicken omelette is going to be god [15:45]
rg good [15:45]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 you're not ignoring enough peopel./ [15:46]
rg i only have one person on block [15:46]
rg eskimobob [15:46]
Diablo-D3 lol [15:46]
rg lol [15:46]
rg on block [15:46]
rg sounds like im on AO [15:46]
rg L [15:46]
Diablo-D3 nenolod: see pm on dicknet [15:46]
Chaang-Noi this is a pretty active chan... [15:48]
rg i got the fly [15:48]
rg finally [15:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00036221 = 2.137 BTC [+] [15:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00036097 = 14.3666 BTC [-] [15:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 5 @ 0.008 = 0.04 BTC [-] [15:57]
smickles < mircea_popescu> smickles why do you keep spelling principal "principle" ? << becuase i am flawd ;) um, tell me this is just in irc, and not in some signed document I produce [15:58]
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mircea_popescu smickles all documents you produce [16:05]
mircea_popescu like your latest filings [16:06]
smickles :o [16:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.41020001 BTC [-] [16:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.4102 = 0.8204 BTC [-] [16:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 9 @ 0.4101 = 3.6909 BTC [-] [16:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 18 @ 0.41 = 7.38 BTC [-] [16:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 10 @ 0.401 = 4.01 BTC [-] [16:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.07102003 = 0.142 BTC [-] [16:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.07102002 BTC [-] [16:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.07102 BTC [-] [16:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 7 @ 0.071 = 0.497 BTC [-] [16:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.07052 = 0.2116 BTC [-] [16:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 15 @ 0.0705 = 1.0575 BTC [-] [16:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.07047 BTC [-] [16:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 12 @ 0.07045 = 0.8454 BTC [-] [16:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.0704 BTC [-] [16:14]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.07034 BTC [-] [16:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.070321 = 0.2813 BTC [-] [16:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1800 @ 0.00044186 = 0.7953 BTC [+] [16:17]
Diablo-D3 smickles: you didnt [16:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.019 = 0.19 BTC [-] [16:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.018 BTC [-] [16:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.018 = 0.162 BTC [-] [16:20]
jurov he's man of principles :) [16:20]
mircea_popescu haha [16:22]
mircea_popescu smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1235414#msg1235414 [16:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 19 @ 0.00999999 = 0.19 BTC [-] [16:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.11189999 = 0.5595 BTC [+] [16:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.41998 = 2.84 BTC [-] [16:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.07960999 = 0.1592 BTC [+] [16:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 18 @ 0.07961 = 1.433 BTC [+] [16:34]
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Luceo I dont think I have anyone on IRC ignored [16:41]
Luceo And only one on forums [16:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13873 @ 0.00036097 = 5.0077 BTC [-] [16:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.29010001 BTC [+] [16:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 3 @ 0.2901 = 0.8703 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.2804 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 3 @ 0.28020001 = 0.8406 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.27983999 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 30 @ 0.2752 = 8.256 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 500 @ 0.275 = 137.5 BTC [-] [16:46]
mircea_popescu who's bitbond again ? [16:47]
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Eisenhower34 amazingrando [16:48]
Eisenhower34 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75126.0 [16:48]
mircea_popescu a ty [16:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-] [16:48]
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mircea_popescu lmao how many more satoshi* and *dice sites can there be [16:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 290 @ 0.0034 = 0.986 BTC [-] [16:52]
smickles !pl mpoe.etf .1 [16:52]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [16:52]
assbot MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.02470282 BTC. Last price: 0.3 BTC. Capital gain: 0.2 BTC. Total: 0.22470282 BTC. (224.7%) [16:52]
mircea_popescu !ticker mpoe.etf [16:52]
assbot [GLBSE:MPOE.ETF] [Bid: 0.3] [Ask: 1.19999999] [Spread: 0.89999999] [Last: 0.3] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.645] [16:53]
mircea_popescu ouch spread. [16:53]
Eisenhower34 :D [16:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [-] [16:53]
mircea_popescu smickles maybe you should sell some s.mpoe put some buys in ? [16:53]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97094.msg1069337#msg1069337 ahaha burt is so much win [16:55]
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smickles mircea_popescu: i'm actually about to do something about that [16:56]
smickles also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114442.msg1235468#msg1235468 so a >200% gain is a loss? [16:56]
mircea_popescu that guy is a little... weird. [16:57]
smickles and MPOE.ETF isn't actually a passthru, but there isn't a S.MPOE passthru on GLBSE [16:57]
mircea_popescu ya it's a fund, which is why i said about selling some shares to put bids, you actually have the flexibility to do that [16:57]
smickles I sent 'em a pm presenting the facts and requested an edit be made :/ [16:57]
mircea_popescu you could prolly make money by tapping the glbse equity flight [16:58]
mircea_popescu as in, put buys in 5% or 10% under what you get for the shares on mpex [16:58]
mircea_popescu increase the etf value by trading [16:58]
smickles up until recently, I was considering a lower % than 5/10 [16:59]
mircea_popescu well whatever works [16:59]
mircea_popescu maybe go in gradual [16:59]
mircea_popescu .3 means what, less than 30% of current s.mpoe value ? [16:59]
smickles something about there [17:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 155 @ 0.0034 = 0.527 BTC [-] [17:01]
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mircea_popescu Local Rules: the following accounts are banned from posting in this thread: Puppet, EskimoBob, Deprived, Factory, nimda, 556j, MPOE-PR, cunicula and guruvan. [17:04]
mircea_popescu someone should make a forum post whereby the forum is forbidden from posting [17:04]
mircea_popescu then maybe complain that nobody's posting [17:05]
smickles jeez, i can't log into glbse [17:06]
smickles it keeps timing out [17:06]
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mircea_popescu mmm [17:07]
mircea_popescu that's not so good [17:07]
mircea_popescu ;;last seen nefario [17:07]
gribble (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} ] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message) [17:07]
mircea_popescu ;;seen nefario [17:07]
gribble nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 7 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [17:07]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1087 @ 0.00044185 = 0.4803 BTC [-] [17:07]
rg today is the worst day [17:08]
rg and ill tell you why [17:08]
rg cause i have to look at how much mone ywe have [17:08]
rg then give it away [17:08]
rg stupid companies [17:08]
rg and i need to send like $100 on a stupid upgrade for our billing system [17:08]
rg cause they revoked our license [17:08]
rg cause theyre french retards [17:08]
smickles alright, got in [17:08]
rg SMICKLES [17:08]
rg GOT IN [17:08]
rg everyone [17:08]
smickles heh [17:09]
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rg i got packeted last niht [17:09]
smickles well, does anyone have some btc 'on' GLBSE so as to facilitate a quick deposit for me? [17:09]
rg night* [17:09]
rg hmm [17:09]
rg i know someone who does [17:09]
mircea_popescu smickles kakobrekla smpake ? [17:10]
rg but hes afk [17:10]
rg btc-mining [17:10]
smickles mircea_popescu: smpake does glbse now? [17:10]
mircea_popescu i thought it did no ? [17:10]
mircea_popescu rg suffer baby :D [17:10]
smickles naw, just mtgox [17:10]
rg i hate this part of the month [17:11]
rg its like wow [17:11]
rg look how much money we have [17:11]
rg thne its like oh [17:11]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [17:11]
rg we gotta pay all our bills [17:11]
rg and then do divs [17:11]
smickles rg, that's why you do cost basis, not cash basis accounting ;P [17:11]
rg yeah [17:11]
mircea_popescu i like cash basis, it's sexier [17:11]
rg whatever that maens [17:11]
rg i knowh ow to add the monies [17:11]
rg and subtract the monies [17:11]
rg and multiply the monies [17:12]
mircea_popescu and feel the tittes [17:12]
rg but that's it [17:12]
rg sometimes i divide [17:12]
rg but i use gribble for that [17:12]
mircea_popescu rg you should get the gnucash btw. [17:12]
rg what's that [17:12]
rg some GNU piece of shit quickbooks replacement [17:12]
mircea_popescu Bitcoin Broadcast Station hits 3000+ Views [17:12]
smickles gnucash supports bitcoin/ 8 decimals? [17:12]
mircea_popescu dude wtf, my penis has 3000 views [17:12]
mircea_popescu smickles i think you have to fiddle with it for that [17:13]
rg aw sweet [17:13]
rg nominet is dropping the co from co.uk [17:13]
rg so you can get rg.uk [17:13]
mircea_popescu took em long enough [17:13]
rg yeah no shi [17:14]
rg t [17:14]
rg no one takes co.anything seriously [17:14]
mircea_popescu indeed. [17:14]
jcpham rg.xxx is better [17:19]
jcpham i would help you admin a gay porn site [17:19]
jcpham just so you can get the domain [17:19]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 72 @ 0.0034 = 0.2448 BTC [-] [17:32]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1695 @ 0.00044185 = 0.7489 BTC [-] [17:33]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7000 @ 0.00044185 = 3.093 BTC [-] [17:33]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 105 @ 0.00044185 = 0.0464 BTC [-] [17:33]
Diablo-D3 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210364/Anastasiya-Shpagina-Teenage-girl-living-cartoon-character.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DKerry%2BMcdermott [17:33]
* Diablo-D3 blames usagi [17:33]
smickles mircea_popescu: have you come across thos 'hysterical literature' videos on youtube? [17:34]
smickles they remind me of a warhol video [17:34]
Diablo-D3 rg: where do you host your shit? [17:36]
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mircea_popescu smickles not really, i don't youtube so much [17:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 8 @ 0.4699 = 3.7592 BTC [-] [17:42]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BMF] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-] [17:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMF] 1 @ 0.40000001 BTC [-] [17:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5528 @ 0.0034 = 18.7952 BTC [-] [17:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 1 @ 0.04000007 BTC [-] [17:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 3 @ 0.04000001 = 0.12 BTC [-] [17:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 25 @ 0.04 = 1 BTC [-] [17:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00035853 = 7.4933 BTC [-] [17:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00036081 = 11.7624 BTC [+] [17:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.59919993 = 2.996 BTC [-] [18:06]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MMM] 14 @ 0.6 = 8.4 BTC [+] [18:09]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+] [18:12]
PsychoticBoy http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210364/Anastasiya-Shpagina-Teenage-girl-living-cartoon-character.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DKerry%2BMcdermott [18:16]
PsychoticBoy ^^ MAN THAT IS SICK [18:16]
* Diablo-D3 already blamed usagi [18:16]
PsychoticBoy seriously that is f*cking sick, probably got wacked against the wall when she was a baby [18:17]
Diablo-D3 I'd whack her against the wall if you know what I mean [18:18]
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copumpkin meh, to each their own [18:19]
mircea_popescu she's just a very good stripper [18:19]
mircea_popescu plays the weaboo angle [18:19]
copumpkin it's just makeup [18:19]
Diablo-D3 the only stripping there involves paint stripper [18:19]
mircea_popescu copumpkin it usually is. [18:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3000 @ 0.00044186 = 1.3256 BTC [+] [18:23]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7500 @ 0.00044186 = 3.314 BTC [+] [18:23]
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PsychoticBoy make up can even let an ugly twat looks nice [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50200 @ 0.00035823 = 17.9831 BTC [-] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50274 @ 0.00035811 = 18.0036 BTC [-] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4171 @ 0.00035552 = 1.4829 BTC [-] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57400 @ 0.00035541 = 20.4005 BTC [-] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.0003542 = 10.8385 BTC [-] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1463171 @ 0.00035 = 512.1099 BTC [-] [18:29]
Bugpowder oh boy [18:31]
mircea_popescu hm [18:32]
Eisenhower34 what a deep knowledge :9 bet he woke up next to one last night [18:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [+] [18:34]
Eisenhower34 just a hint, its not only the makeup, also the alcohol :) [18:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.29000001 BTC [-] [18:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.29 = 1.45 BTC [-] [18:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.59979999 BTC [+] [18:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.29000001 BTC [+] [18:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] [18:36]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.29000001 BTC [+] [18:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] [18:39]
Azelphur Is that such an amazing trait? o.O [18:49]
* Azelphur tells people who he really is all the time [18:49]
Diablo-D3 http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/post-gangnam-style-americ.html [18:49]
Diablo-D3 we're fucke [18:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GOLD] 3 @ 0.00999998 = 0.03 BTC [-] [18:50]
Diablo-D3 usagi: okay so fine, Im a giant robot pilot [18:51]
* Diablo-D3 sits a gundam on the table. [18:51]
Azelphur Diablo-D3: http://youtu.be/-hDotwzR9d4 is the best (you have to watch it all) :p [18:51]
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Diablo-D3 Azelphur: oh fuck me [18:51]
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Azelphur lol [18:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00035498 = 5.2182 BTC [+] [18:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 1 @ 0.00015999 BTC [+] [18:55]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 196 @ 0.00016 = 0.0314 BTC [+] [18:56]
Diablo-D3 Azelphur: bwhahaha [18:57]
Diablo-D3 it finally ends [18:57]
Azelphur :D [18:57]
Azelphur it does, right at the end [18:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61800 @ 0.00035559 = 21.9755 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7027 @ 0.00036081 = 2.5354 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37032 @ 0.00036249 = 13.4237 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14141 @ 0.00036422 = 5.1504 BTC [+] [18:59]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.mpoe [18:59]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00035 / 0.00035512 / 0.00036664 (3646645 shares, 1,295.00 BTC), 30day: 0.00034 / 0.00039062 / 0.00042 (64063806 shares, 25,024.88 BTC) [18:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 6 @ 0.07961 = 0.4777 BTC [+] [19:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.07971 = 0.3188 BTC [+] [19:01]
grubles !ticker s.dice [19:09]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (16195 shares, 55.06 BTC), 30day: 0.0033 / 0.00337125 / 0.0034 (2079730 shares, 7,011.31 BTC) [19:09]
grubles !ticker s.bvps [19:09]
assbot [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.001175 / 0.00342157 / 0.003801 (52687 shares, 180.27 BTC) [19:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.21999999 = 0.88 BTC [-] [19:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [+] [19:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 150 @ 0.00341357 = 0.512 BTC [+] [19:22]
MrTiggr AHAHAHA http://i.imgur.com/qdZ5O.png << THAT is what a btc-laundry should look like (http://www.iseecoins.org/) [19:25]
rg grubkes [19:29]
rg just the man i need to see [19:29]
copumpkin usagi wa unagi ni natta [19:29]
copumpkin became [19:30]
mircea_popescu MrTiggr can you explain it ? [19:30]
copumpkin not to be confused with nareru [19:30]
MrTiggr mircea_popescu: that is based off the "unconfirmed transactions" feed ... every dot is a btc address .. the lines are coins moving between them ... the line color is the same for coins moved in the same transaction [19:31]
MrTiggr known bitcoin addresses are labelled [19:31]
mircea_popescu aha [19:32]
mircea_popescu interesting visual for sure [19:32]
MrTiggr layout uses a force-directed algo to best position stuff [19:32]
MrTiggr turn autolayout on for best effect [19:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.59515 = 2.3806 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.595 = 5.95 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 8 @ 0.5901 = 4.7208 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.58095 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.5807 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.58050001 = 1.7415 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.5805 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.5803 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-] [19:34]
rg im glad we have some action today [19:37]
rg id like to see some more [19:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 500 @ 0.00016 = 0.08 BTC [+] [19:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.11189999 = 1.4547 BTC [+] [19:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1119 BTC [+] [19:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09030001 BTC [-] [19:42]
rg grubiesssss [19:43]
rg wake up [19:43]
rg we gotta pay these bills son [19:43]
smickles ;;seen grubles [19:44]
gribble grubles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 34 minutes and 48 seconds ago: !ticker s.bvps [19:44]
smickles power nap [19:44]
mircea_popescu lol [19:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30693 @ 0.00036422 = 11.179 BTC [+] [19:48]
rg i could just pay them all in btc [19:48]
rg but i was a lamer and lent some money to a friend [19:49]
rg who needed it [19:49]
rg and hes afk [19:49]
rg i wish i had some muscle [19:49]
rg a team of muscle [19:49]
rg around the US [19:49]
rg then i could do lending [19:49]
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rg you dont pay, fine, as long as its worth your knee cap [19:49]
rg two taps to 1 knee cap [19:49]
rg 1 to break it [19:50]
rg 1 to cause bad pain [19:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 0.56100009 BTC [-] [19:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.6089 = 3.0445 BTC [+] [19:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.10256999 BTC [+] [19:55]
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assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.10257 = 0.2051 BTC [+] [19:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 1 @ 0.0625 BTC [-] [19:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.45389999 BTC [+] [20:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4539 BTC [+] [20:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.18998999 BTC [+] [20:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.18999 = 0.38 BTC [+] [20:04]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.11189999 BTC [-] [20:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.0095 BTC [-] [20:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 11 @ 0.00935001 = 0.1029 BTC [-] [20:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 27 @ 0.0091111 = 0.246 BTC [-] [20:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 3 @ 0.0091 = 0.0273 BTC [-] [20:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 45 @ 0.009 = 0.405 BTC [-] [20:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 5 @ 0.00999999 = 0.05 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 10 @ 0.0099 = 0.099 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 10 @ 0.0098 = 0.098 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 10 @ 0.0097 = 0.097 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 2 @ 0.00960001 = 0.0192 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 13 @ 0.0096 = 0.1248 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 4 @ 0.0095 = 0.038 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 1 @ 0.0092 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 15 @ 0.00900125 = 0.135 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 200 @ 0.00044186 = 0.0884 BTC [+] [20:13]
grubles anyone here use pympex [20:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.18999 = 0.38 BTC [+] [20:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 5 @ 0.19 = 0.95 BTC [+] [20:17]
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Azelphur I missed him [20:24]
Azelphur I got 2 already, high score! [20:24]
Azelphur the downsides of having a name that begins with A, I'm high up on all the userlists :p [20:25]
rdponticelli Time to change your nick to Zazelphur [20:28]
rdponticelli :) [20:28]
Azelphur indeed [20:29]
grubles Azelphur, you wrote pympex right? [20:29]
Azelphur yes [20:29]
grubles ive signed the mpex key, and yet i still get "Couldn't decode the reply from MPEx...blah" errors [20:30]
Luceo ffs why have the butts started again? :( [20:31]
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Azelphur grubles: all my python does is call gnupg library, which runs the gpg executable [20:31]
Azelphur so key decryption not working is 99.9% on gpg side [20:32]
Luceo EskimoBob: or just /umode +R [20:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 292 @ 0.00388887 = 1.1356 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2708 @ 0.00388888 = 10.5311 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 50 @ 0.0148 = 0.74 BTC [-] [20:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.07034001 = 0.1407 BTC [-] [20:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.07034 = 0.1407 BTC [-] [20:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 8 @ 0.070321 = 0.5626 BTC [-] [20:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.07032 BTC [-] [20:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.07022 BTC [-] [20:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 7 @ 0.0702 = 0.4914 BTC [-] [20:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6500 @ 0.00044185 = 2.872 BTC [-] [20:38]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.07034002 = 0.1407 BTC [+] [20:39]
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assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.5999 BTC [-] [20:49]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 10 @ 0.06994 = 0.6994 BTC [-] [20:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 195 @ 0.00325001 = 0.6338 BTC [-] [20:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1118 BTC [-] [21:00]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.60499997 = 1.815 BTC [-] [21:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.14210003 BTC [-] [21:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.14210002 BTC [-] [21:04]
Luceo EskimoBob: You can do /umode +R, it's the fastest way [21:08]
kakobrekla fyi, http://bit4x.com just went live [21:08]
mircea_popescu progressively over-valuing your assets more and more based on some combination of beliefs, guesses, believing people who tell you things on irc and total lunacy. [21:08]
mircea_popescu i like this guy. [21:08]
mircea_popescu that's like... 90% of btc fund managers right there. [21:09]
Luceo Who? [21:09]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97178.msg1236472#msg1236472 [21:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.14220003 BTC [+] [21:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 4 @ 0.14220002 = 0.5688 BTC [-] [21:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 5 @ 0.14220002 = 0.711 BTC [-] [21:13]
Bugpowder Q: Does NYAN Financial use GAAP? [21:15]
mircea_popescu and so it dies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114686.0 [21:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.6 = 1.8 BTC [+] [21:16]
Diablo-D3 Bugpowder: it will now that smickles is going to do their shit [21:16]
Bugpowder In fairness, BAC, JPM, WFC weren't marking their MBS to market either. [21:16]
Bugpowder But I don't think the Fed is going to come in and exchange Treasuries for for NYAN.B shares any time soon. [21:17]
mircea_popescu mbs is down 1? [21:18]
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assbot BMF [1@0.49BTC] (since: 2012-09-25) paid: 0.01112149 BTC. Last price: 0.40000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.08999999 BTC. Total: -0.0788785 BTC. (-16.1%) [21:20]
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assbot BMF [1@1BTC] paid: 0.10922454 BTC. Last price: 0.40000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.59999999 BTC. Total: -0.49077545 BTC. (-49.1%) [21:21]
Diablo-D3 bmf never IPO'ed at 1 though [21:21]
Diablo-D3 or wait, was that cpa that didnt [21:21]
BTC-Mining Was CPA at 0.10 [21:21]
BTC-Mining now trading around 0.03 [21:21]
mircea_popescu bmf ipo was 1 [21:21]
Diablo-D3 I should take notes. [21:21]
Diablo-D3 usagi: dude, I should do that [21:22]
Diablo-D3 DMC, now worth 9000 BTC PER SHARE lawls [21:22]
BTC-Mining !pl BTC-MINING 1 [21:23]
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BTC-Mining !pl BTC-BOND 0.01 [21:23]
assbot BTC-MINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.27012647 BTC. Last price: 0.921 BTC. Capital gain: -0.079 BTC. Total: 0.19112647 BTC. (19.1%) [21:23]
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assbot BTC-BOND [1@0.01BTC] paid: 0.00055 BTC. Last price: 0.00989 BTC. Capital gain: -0.00011 BTC. Total: 0.00044 BTC. (4.4%) [21:23]
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mircea_popescu those %s are so useless w/o any indication of time [21:23]
Bugpowder See how the high price on all these MBS's was 100. They all crashed, banks pulled a Usagi and valued them higher than the market price, but 5 years later most are still shitcanned. http://www.markit.com/en/products/data/indices/structured-finance-indices/abx/abx-prices.page? [21:24]
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assbot BMF [1@0.5BTC] (since: 2012-09-01) paid: 0.05279685 BTC. Last price: 0.40000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.09999999 BTC. Total: -0.04720314 BTC. (-9.4%) [21:24]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 192 @ 0.00044185 = 0.0848 BTC [-] [21:24]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8700 @ 0.00044185 = 3.8441 BTC [-] [21:24]
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Bugpowder BUT Fed swapped them for treasuries. There is no Fed in bitcoin. [21:25]
BTC-Mining BTC-Mining about 5 months, BTC-Bond about 2 months [21:25]
Diablo-D3 usagi: I know how you feel [21:26]
Bugpowder Why the fuck should mining companies care about the share price anyway? You got the BTC, you buy the gear, you mine, you pay the dividends. [21:26]
Diablo-D3 Bugpowder: bmf was a fund, now its turning into a mining company [21:26]
Diablo-D3 however, bmf was a closed fund, so NAV may not even matter [21:26]
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Bugpowder GLBSE shares are not a company. [21:26]
Diablo-D3 usagi: okay hows this [21:28]
Diablo-D3 how long are you going to be doing daily dividend [21:28]
Diablo-D3 not worth it :< [21:28]
Diablo-D3 if it was FOREVERERERERERER I'd buy some BMF [21:28]
Diablo-D3 well, BTCMC will pay me 15 BTC today [21:29]
Diablo-D3 that reminds me, I need to go poke yochdog [21:29]
BTC-Mining I'd buy BMF around 0.30 right now =/ [21:30]
Diablo-D3 yeah but I own 106 BTC-MINING [21:31]
BTC-Mining Yeah but we pay out from a loan. [21:32]
Diablo-D3 and 0 BMF [21:32]
Diablo-D3 !ticker btc-mining [21:32]
Diablo-D3 !ticker btcmc [21:32]
Diablo-D3 !ticker asicminer [21:32]
assbot [GLBSE:BTC-MINING] [Bid: 0.92525] [Ask: 0.97479999] [Spread: 0.04954999] [Last: 0.921] [24hVol: 18.02480001] [7dAvg: 0.9211356] [21:32]
assbot [GLBSE:BTCMC] [Bid: 0.45] [Ask: 0.58979999] [Spread: 0.13979999] [Last: 0.45000001] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.48714] [21:32]
assbot [GLBSE:ASICMINER] [Bid: 0.106] [Ask: 0.1118] [Spread: 0.0058] [Last: 0.1118] [24hVol: 49.66689507] [7dAvg: 0.1096124] [21:32]
BTC-Mining what? All in BTC-BOND? [21:32]
BTC-Mining You mean BITBOND? [21:33]
Diablo-D3 er, isnt btc-bond btc-mining's? [21:33]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: you're late paying again [21:34]
BTC-Mining BTC-BOND isn't looking healthy? [21:35]
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assbot GIGAMINING [1@1.5BTC] (since: 2012-06-1) paid: 0.32565895 BTC. Last price: 0.60499997 BTC. Capital gain: -0.89500003 BTC. Total: -0.56934108 BTC. (-38%) [21:35]
BTC-Mining How so is BTC-BOND not looking healthy? [21:36]
BTC-Mining Hey, can't only blame the mining sector losing value. You got to trade and cut losses. [21:38]
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assbot GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.48117596 BTC. Last price: 0.60499997 BTC. Capital gain: -0.39500003 BTC. Total: 0.08617593 BTC. (8.6%) [21:38]
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assbot GIGAMINING [1@1.5BTC] paid: 0.48117596 BTC. Last price: 0.60499997 BTC. Capital gain: -0.89500003 BTC. Total: -0.41382407 BTC. (-27.6%) [21:39]
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assbot GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.48117596 BTC. Last price: 0.60499997 BTC. Capital gain: -0.39500003 BTC. Total: 0.08617593 BTC. (8.6%) [21:39]
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assbot GIGAMINING [1@1.5BTC] (since: 2012-06-01) paid: 0.32565895 BTC. Last price: 0.60499997 BTC. Capital gain: -0.89500003 BTC. Total: -0.56934108 BTC. (-38%) [21:40]
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Bugpowder usagi, what about the dividend payouts from gigamining during that time? [21:40]
assbot NYAN.A [1@1BTC] paid: 0.09 BTC. Last price: 0.99 BTC. Capital gain: -0.01 BTC. Total: 0.08 BTC. (8%) [21:41]
BTC-Mining If it wasn't for the dividends [21:41]
Bugpowder i get it now [21:41]
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assbot CPA [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.00569688 BTC. Last price: 0.034 BTC. Capital gain: -0.066 BTC. Total: -0.06030312 BTC. (-60.3%) [21:42]
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assbot BMF [1@1BTC] paid: 0.10922454 BTC. Last price: 0.40000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.59999999 BTC. Total: -0.49077545 BTC. (-49.1%) [21:42]
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assbot NASTY [1@0.8BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.01422903 BTC. Last price: 0.4539 BTC. Capital gain: -0.3461 BTC. Total: -0.33187097 BTC. (-41.5%) [21:42]
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assbot NYAN.C [1@1BTC] paid: 0.14927771 BTC. Last price: 0.25 BTC. Capital gain: -0.75 BTC. Total: -0.60072229 BTC. (-60.1%) [21:42]
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Luceo !pl NYAN 1 [21:43]
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assbot NYAN [1@1BTC] paid: 0.08033233 BTC. Last price: 0.6 BTC. Capital gain: -0.4 BTC. Total: -0.31966767 BTC. (-32%) [21:43]
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assbot BMF [1@0.5BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.07135279 BTC. Last price: 0.40000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.09999999 BTC. Total: -0.0286472 BTC. (-5.7%) [21:43]
Luceo 5.7% is also pretty much exactly the movement in BTC isn't it? [21:44]
Luceo Valuing shares at NAV regardless of past performance makes me cry [21:44]
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assbot ABM [1@0.45BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.015011 BTC. Last price: 0.10000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.34999999 BTC. Total: -0.33498899 BTC. (-74.4%) [21:45]
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Luceo !pl NYAN.A 1 [21:45]
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assbot NYAN.A [1@1BTC] paid: 0.09 BTC. Last price: 0.99 BTC. Capital gain: -0.01 BTC. Total: 0.08 BTC. (8%) [21:45]
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assbot YABMC [1@0.14BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.02337128 BTC. Last price: 0.07034002 BTC. Capital gain: -0.06965998 BTC. Total: -0.0462887 BTC. (-33.1%) [21:46]
Luceo I think I'm about 2% down on usagi-related shares, maybe less than that [21:46]
Luceo And most of the loss was on YARR (bought at 1.25, returned 1) [21:46]
Luceo and about .17 in divs [21:47]
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assbot GIGAMINING [1@0.9BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.132775 BTC. Last price: 0.60499997 BTC. Capital gain: -0.29500003 BTC. Total: -0.16222503 BTC. (-18%) [21:49]
Diablo-D3 1pl dmc 1.0 [21:49]
gigavps !pl GIGAMINING 1 [21:49]
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assbot GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.48117596 BTC. Last price: 0.60499997 BTC. Capital gain: -0.39500003 BTC. Total: 0.08617593 BTC. (8.6%) [21:49]
Diablo-D3 !pl dmc 1.0 [21:49]
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assbot DMC [1@1BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.055 BTC. Capital gain: -0.945 BTC. Total: -0.91864186 BTC. (-91.9%) [21:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9566 @ 0.00036422 = 3.4841 BTC [+] [21:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00036605 = 0.4027 BTC [+] [21:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10334 @ 0.0003661 = 3.7833 BTC [+] [21:50]
Diablo-D3 I have some work to do I think [21:50]
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assbot DMC [1@0.45BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0 BTC. Last price: 0.055 BTC. Capital gain: -0.395 BTC. Total: -0.395 BTC. (-87.8%) [21:50]
gigavps whoops [21:50]
Diablo-D3 usagi: I may continue not paying dividends [21:51]
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assbot NYAN.A [1@1BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.09 BTC. Last price: 0.99 BTC. Capital gain: -0.01 BTC. Total: 0.08 BTC. (8%) [21:52]
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assbot NYAN.B [1@1BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.16081227 BTC. Last price: 0.96999999 BTC. Capital gain: -0.03000001 BTC. Total: 0.13081226 BTC. (13.1%) [21:52]
kakobrekla http://btctrading.wordpress.com/trade-forex-with-bitcoins/ [21:52]
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assbot BMMO [1@0.14BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.01673604 BTC. Last price: 0.04 BTC. Capital gain: -0.1 BTC. Total: -0.08326396 BTC. (-59.5%) [21:54]
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Enky good evening fellas [22:06]
Enky kako you there? [22:06]
kakobrekla ya [22:06]
Enky wsell [22:07]
Enky well [22:07]
Enky the page is on [22:07]
PsychoticBoy ABM [1@0.45BTC] << usagi, explain? [22:07]
Enky already 120 htis [22:07]
Enky hits [22:07]
kakobrekla :)) [22:07]
Diablo-D3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HmBByDQHJAA [22:07]
PsychoticBoy all ABM shares sold by me were at .22-.25 [22:07]
PsychoticBoy sure [22:07]
PsychoticBoy I f someone is stupid enough to buy [22:07]
PsychoticBoy ok they dont read the forum then [22:08]
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assbot ABM [1@0.35BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.015011 BTC. Last price: 0.10000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.24999999 BTC. Total: -0.23498899 BTC. (-67.1%) [22:08]
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assbot ABM [1@0.25BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.015011 BTC. Last price: 0.10000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.14999999 BTC. Total: -0.13498899 BTC. (-54%) [22:08]
PsychoticBoy but I thought you said mining companies droped 50% but if you had bought ABM in June you had paid .22 and then with a sale at .45 you would gain 110% [22:09]
PsychoticBoy correct, 105% [22:09]
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assbot ABM [1@0.2BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.015011 BTC. Last price: 0.10000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.09999999 BTC. Total: -0.08498899 BTC. (-42.5%) [22:10]
PsychoticBoy last price sure, low volume stock ;) [22:10]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7000 @ 0.00044183 = 3.0928 BTC [-] [22:15]
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assbot BMF [1@0.5BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.07135279 BTC. Last price: 0.40000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.09999999 BTC. Total: -0.0286472 BTC. (-5.7%) [22:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.02069624 BTC [+] [22:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.02899999 BTC [+] [22:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.029 = 2.9 BTC [+] [22:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.02918169 = 0.1167 BTC [+] [22:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.0299995 = 0.3 BTC [+] [22:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.0299995 = 1.5 BTC [+] [22:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 372 @ 0.03 = 11.16 BTC [+] [22:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.03 = 0.06 BTC [+] [22:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.03798 = 0.3418 BTC [+] [22:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 469 @ 0.03799 = 17.8173 BTC [+] [22:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 32 @ 0.038 = 1.216 BTC [+] [22:23]
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BTC-Mining EskimoBob, probably because the mining companies have a large profit and sell fixed mhash/s bond. The bonds lose value and so do the investors, but the company does not. [22:34]
BTC-Mining and for the few actual companies, they have GPU. Untransferable to FPGA/ASIC. [22:35]
BTC-Mining They'd have to sell GPUs at a loss. [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.01902 = 0.038 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.019 = 0.19 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.018 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.01702 = 0.3404 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.017 = 1.7 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.01502 = 0.03 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.01189875 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0113467 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.01004 = 0.0402 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.01002001 = 0.2004 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.01002 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 40 @ 0.01 = 0.4 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.00945546 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.00795903 = 0.0159 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.007 = 0.7 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.006102 = 0.6102 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 48 @ 0.00514864 = 0.2471 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.00456759 = 0.0274 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 96 @ 0.00232906 = 0.2236 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 140 @ 0.00194476 = 0.2723 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.5601 BTC [-] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.5564 BTC [-] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 8 @ 0.5563 = 4.4504 BTC [-] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.5562 = 2.2248 BTC [-] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.556001 = 1.112 BTC [-] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 52 @ 0.00194476 = 0.1011 BTC [-] [22:36]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.556 = 1.668 BTC [-] [22:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 198 @ 0.01 = 1.98 BTC [+] [22:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00036578 = 13.4973 BTC [-] [22:40]
BTC-Mining Hopefully if he switches to being a mining company, he'll stop losing so much. [22:41]
BTC-Mining Mining bonds devalue too much [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 4 @ 1.4 = 5.6 BTC [-] [22:43]
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Diablo-D3 usagi: lol [22:46]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 34 @ 0.02502 = 0.8507 BTC [+] [22:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 2 @ 0.02501 = 0.05 BTC [-] [22:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 54 @ 0.025 = 1.35 BTC [-] [22:58]
PsychoticBoy LIke we have 210 shares of ABM. That's 21% of the company o_o << your my bigest share holdert [22:59]
PsychoticBoy -t [22:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.17500001 BTC [-] [23:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.175 = 0.35 BTC [-] [23:00]
PsychoticBoy deadterra owns ~50 ABM [23:00]
PsychoticBoy I know my shareholders ;) [23:00]
PsychoticBoy most of them [23:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [-] [23:01]
PsychoticBoy not atm [23:02]
PsychoticBoy I cant get a decent price p share atm [23:02]
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PsychoticBoy I own 6 singles total 1 is owned by ABM [23:03]
PsychoticBoy 4 ztex quads [23:03]
PsychoticBoy 1 x5000 fpga [23:03]
PsychoticBoy and lots of GPU`s [23:03]
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PsychoticBoy only gpu is going down after block cut [23:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45330 @ 0.0003661 = 16.5953 BTC [+] [23:05]
PsychoticBoy lets see what happens after block cut and asics, then I will decide what to do with ABM [23:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [-] [23:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.10551 BTC [-] [23:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1055 = 1.055 BTC [-] [23:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.45389987 = 0.9078 BTC [-] [23:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.45389999 BTC [+] [23:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1055 = 1.055 BTC [-] [23:07]
PsychoticBoy no I am concentrating on FDBF [23:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.4539 = 1.3617 BTC [+] [23:08]
PsychoticBoy now* [23:08]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1055 = 0.5275 BTC [-] [23:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4539 BTC [+] [23:10]
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BTC-Mining Great. I rolled back my driver on my wifi card and my connection stopped being slow. [23:16]
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Bugpowder Oh lord, some kids are gonna blow up their bitcoin account... http://bit4x.com Available leverages: 1:1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 25, 33, 50, 66, 75, 100, 125, 150, 200, 300, 400, 500, 1000 [23:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11636 @ 0.0003661 = 4.2599 BTC [+] [23:30]
kakobrekla i warn not to do it. [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10092 @ 0.0034 = 34.3128 BTC [+] [23:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [GOLD] 50 @ 0.00999999 = 0.5 BTC [+] [23:34]
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Bugpowder looks cool though! I don't have the desire to get my dick chopped off trading forex again though. [23:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 90829 @ 0.0034 = 308.8186 BTC [+] [23:36]
Bugpowder oh my [23:36]
Bugpowder people gettin' on the S.DICE train [23:37]
Bugpowder whoo whoo [23:37]
Doffx Wow [23:41]
knotwork_ If all mining assets lost money does that mean prfoably miners in general have all been losing money or just that mining assets are scams set up to scam investors but make profit for the actual miner offering the asset? [23:44]
knotwork_ s/prfoably/probably/ [23:45]
copumpkin they're not scams [23:45]
copumpkin they just aren't a particularly good investment [23:45]
Bugpowder no it means the share price is falling to the expected future payout amount [23:45]
knotwork_ oh ok s/scams/naive pipe dreams/ [23:45]
copumpkin share prices mean nothing on glbse [23:45]
rdponticelli Well, it all depend how you look at them [23:45]
agath I think that most of the mining companies are good in configuring computers, but not at all to make a strategy / business plan. [23:45]
copumpkin that doesn't mean people don't take them seriously though [23:45]
copumpkin so in a perverse sense, they mean more because of it [23:46]
rdponticelli If nobody is mining, and we aren't financing mining, there's no bitcoin [23:46]
Bugpowder with reward halving coming and difficulty ramping, people are realizing that there won't be that much in dividends coming out in a few months [23:46]
agath if done the right way, mining is very profitable. But all or almost all the mining companies are losing... [23:46]
knotwork_ its hard to believe they are serious if they don't even merged mine as they thus deliberately leave money on the table [23:46]
Bugpowder gigamining is a winner [23:46]
agath example: pyramining is going strong [23:46]
Bugpowder the only winner I can see [23:46]
gigavps what did i do now [23:46]
agath and maybe gigamining, which I don't know very very well.. [23:47]
Bugpowder just do the math on the hash rate and their equipment and some expected future growth curves [23:47]
knotwork_ or do they do like some pools and simply keep their merded mined coins to their own private purses? [23:47]
Bugpowder most mining companies are still overvalued [23:47]
knotwork_ s/merded/merged/ [23:47]
BTC-Mining Bugpowder, don't forget [23:48]
BTC-Mining !pl BTC-MINING 1 [23:48]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [23:48]
assbot BTC-MINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.27012647 BTC. Last price: 0.921 BTC. Capital gain: -0.079 BTC. Total: 0.19112647 BTC. (19.1%) [23:48]
Bugpowder Whoever gets their asics first though... that will be the big winner [23:48]
Bugpowder isnt' BTC-MINING not mining yet ? [23:48]
agath having a very short period of quite high income doesn't mean it's a win [23:49]
agath the win is in long term [23:49]
Bugpowder no [23:49]
Bugpowder the win is in getting your money [23:49]
Bugpowder back out [23:49]
agath that it's normal, not a win [23:49]
Bugpowder sonner the better [23:49]
Bugpowder If you get asics first [23:49]
gigavps who gets asic first? [23:50]
BTC-Mining aye, not mining yet [23:50]
Bugpowder you could be paying 25% divvy a week [23:50]
agath in a good business plan even when you get asics last, you win.... [23:50]
Bugpowder till others get them [23:50]
rdponticelli Anyway, you bought the stock with a BTC which was worth half what is worth now [23:50]
Bugpowder agath, sometimes the only way to win is not to play [23:50]
Bugpowder if you are getting in line for BFL now, I think you are totally fucked [23:50]
agath I'm playing and so far winning, without needing strategies like "first asic out" [23:50]
Bugpowder but thats just my opinion [23:50]
rdponticelli If you would have not inested, it won't have apreciated [23:50]
agath who cares for BFL? [23:51]
gigavps agath noone [23:51]
rdponticelli s/inested/invested/ [23:51]
Bugpowder wait, isn't pyramining a ponzi scheme though? [23:51]
agath it isn't... read better [23:51]
Bugpowder or MLM scheme [23:51]
novusordo so considering that the SEC used #bitcoin-otc to get emails for BTCST, it's very likely that they're in this channel right now [23:52]
* novusordo waves [23:52]
* rdponticelli watch everybody running out [23:53]
Bugpowder SEC should focus on major crimes... BOA, WFC, JPM. [23:54]
agath is it mining a crime? [23:54]
Bugpowder Countrywide [23:54]
rg novusordo: unlikely [23:54]
rg what's more likely is someone who's mad gave them all the info [23:54]
Bugpowder Angelo Mozilo [23:54]
agath Angelo Mozilo seems the name of an italian made browser [23:55]
Bugpowder On Friday October 15, 2010, Mozilo reached a settlement with Securities and Exchange Commission, over securities fraud and insider trading charges. Mozilo agreed to pay $67.5 million in fines [23:55]
Bugpowder This fine represents a small fraction of Mozilo's estimated net worth of $600 million. Countrywide will pay $20 million of the $67.5 million penalty because of an indemnification agreement that was part of Mozillo's employment contract. [23:55]
Bugpowder FUCK that [23:55]
Bugpowder what is the point of the SEC if you aren't going to lock the real fuckers up [23:56]
PsychoticBoy usigi, NYAN.B closing? [23:58]
PsychoticBoy usagi [23:58]
PsychoticBoy ok, isnt it an option to get rid of move.to and add another asset to its portfolio? [23:59]
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