Forum logs for 01 Jul 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
decimation yeah if it's the last file, it's incomplete [00:00]
asciilifeform aha [00:00]
mod6 these were fully sync'd up to ~320`000 blocks or so. they were shutdown after full sync was achieved. each goes upto like blk0017.dat [00:00]
mod6 fa97f9f51bd130758910563ad7976014736b8b8ec021ed9f5dbc3c4b87d3703a blk0009.dat | 2f7acbd7b5603a845a5d380ffb6ff3be051ab8b192ae143b0916a07564d5cbc5 blk0009.dat | 1631edac873633135b9eb9b8214d6d2b30d708d00ec4dd1db6a9bf09f384551b blk0009.dat [00:01]
decimation mine stops at blk0008.dat [00:01]
mod6 on a fully sync'd node? [00:01]
mod6 whats the full size of your blockchain? mine's like ... ~38Gb [00:02]
mod6 82397e804874de4709faa07515f6bedbeaa4b1cdc49846b96742bba925bad1cb blk0010.dat | d2bf09e41b6177d6f44a5b7983954c647ac2c983ac39af2e159261e8737f4662 blk0010.dat | baa5bbcdb388d707398d00de95df8d3c5d98d716842d1eea7ea51f3d4ed40695 blk0010.dat [00:03]
mod6 seems to diverge for me starting with blk0008.dat [00:03]
asciilifeform 8d8c80c9677d59856eb3ebb2e9d87ff2bc4cd416f02ae6d4d925e031fffb82e1 blk0001.dat [00:06]
asciilifeform ebbeef1641ca8b921652577f4917ad2f7391cb5067b7857819ed4a5fb4a35091 blk0002.dat [00:06]
asciilifeform c125ab7cbdf64b9d14c26adcc7638b2e7a62879cdd64a8897bbdb494360162569 blk0003.dat [00:06]
asciilifeform ^^^ from my box circa 2013 ! [00:06]
mod6 huh. yours dont match ours or mps [00:07]
asciilifeform with ecc ram, no less [00:07]
asciilifeform and raid5 [00:07]
asciilifeform (the latter with nightly parity checks!) [00:07]
decimation with orphans? [00:09]
asciilifeform almost certainly [00:09]
asciilifeform (for the same reason as mircea_popescu's) [00:09]
asciilifeform they were moved from an earlier disk, where the thing was going from late 2010 [00:10]
asciilifeform iirc [00:10]
* asciilifeform observes that the 'eater' has completed blk0001 [00:14]
asciilifeform is presently past 189070 [00:15]
asciilifeform anomaly has not recurred yet [00:15]
asciilifeform (but is not expected for a while) [00:15]
asciilifeform sha256(blk0001.dat) is equal to the expected value. [00:16]
asciilifeform (on the 'eater' node) [00:16]
mod6 18704088cd8518a05e173648622bdc86e695e6e551a9e669179dd26b4e40aab5 blk0011.dat | 18704088cd8518a05e173648622bdc86e695e6e551a9e669179dd26b4e40aab5 blk0011.dat | c39eeb00ee4489722f82f53667a71584aa571913c6c0116017682ed508e5adcd blk0011.dat [00:16]
mod6 bdabb513c4ced2b592897757d1a137263f7d709a86040c41772288caea55fb14 blk0012.dat | bdabb513c4ced2b592897757d1a137263f7d709a86040c41772288caea55fb14 blk0012.dat | 7da33b5bc03fcba571b854172938f000a9d5241757f3b186de93da34ddcb889f blk0012.dat [00:17]
mod6 35069477afe178861ddfe9d686625801e20fcb66b89d87b4a2730925aefd20a0 blk0013.dat | 35069477afe178861ddfe9d686625801e20fcb66b89d87b4a2730925aefd20a0 blk0013.dat | 25def233a2fa1c177169c74789070dc08de127b8447c7ee0784a8735353a42f8 blk0013.dat [00:18]
asciilifeform mod6: where are the 3rd items in these triples from ? [00:18]
asciilifeform anything peculiar about that node ? [00:18]
mod6 0a7c6b1127af5f47afe3138eb206c736d8452256826d0c3e030c5cd8c289b6e6 blk0014.dat | fc6f19747098be62ccadffda61c7c302d57748e05d2de95f5ee226ac250c71e5 blk0014.dat | fc6f19747098be62ccadffda61c7c302d57748e05d2de95f5ee226ac250c71e5 blk0014.dat [00:19]
mod6 so one of them seems to be more screwed up than the others. but there were blocks like blk0009.dat & 10 where all were different. [00:20]
mod6 one was done in january, one in february, and one in march. [00:20]
mod6 january was pre SSL 1.0.1g [00:20]
asciilifeform this is probably when i say that it will be necessary to walk the blocks. [00:21]
asciilifeform and compare individual ones [00:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00046595 = 5.2652 BTC [+] [00:23]
mod6 yeah, totally agree. [00:25]
mod6 im suprised they diverged that much. [00:26]
mod6 i would have though with all the same version (pretty much) that they would have all been the same hashes. [00:26]
asciilifeform ~recent~ syncs diverging is almost certainly a product of enemy fire [00:26]
mod6 glad I looked at that [00:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64550 @ 0.00048971 = 31.6108 BTC [+] {3} [00:27]
decimation yeah, gotta take it block by block [00:27]
decimation the question is, how do we make a portable tool to suck blocks from bitcoin nodes? [00:30]
decimation something that parses .dat files? [00:30]
asciilifeform decimation: one way is what i'm doing [00:30]
asciilifeform but it's a bit slow [00:30]
decimation yes true [00:30]
asciilifeform there is a python thing floating around, iirc [00:30]
asciilifeform can try that. [00:30]
asciilifeform alternatively, write own (format is pretty simple) [00:30]
mod6 yah, there's asciilifeform's way, and there's that python thing [00:30]
asciilifeform alternatively wait for me, but i'm up to my ears in backlog of work [00:31]
asciilifeform where the hell is mircea_popescu [00:33]
asciilifeform at this rate, he's gonna miss ragnarok. [00:33]
asciilifeform (then again, this ragnarok will still be there tomorrow..) [00:34]
phf fwiw dumpblock is expensive, because walks blockchain in order. a "dumpdb" that iterates over mapBlockIndex and does ReadFromDisk/<< for each block might be a reasonably fast way to split .db into separate block files [00:36]
asciilifeform phf: by far the simplest possible way is to simply walk the binary [00:36]
asciilifeform iirc, it is [mainortestchainflag][length][blockdata] repeated again and again [00:37]
phf oh, bah [00:37]
asciilifeform consult the src (linked earlier in this thread) [00:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41750 @ 0.00049034 = 20.4717 BTC [+] [00:38]
midnightmagic asciilifeform: What does 'enemy fire' mean? [00:46]
asciilifeform midnightmagic: the details remain to be learned [00:46]
midnightmagic asciilifeform: Why do you call it "enemy fire" and why are you certain it is that? [00:47]
asciilifeform if you want certainty, you will have to wait. [00:48]
* gabriel_laddel has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68100 @ 0.00049172 = 33.4861 BTC [+] {2} [00:49]
decimation midnightmagic: what do you think it means [00:50]
asciilifeform see also the sacramental http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-11-2014#932006 [00:51]
assbot Logged on 23-11-2014 05:22:35; kakobrekla: mircea_popescu no the question was did someone abuse the britneychain [00:51]
midnightmagic decimation: I'm not sure. That's why I'm asking. [00:53]
midnightmagic asciilifeform: I don't want certainty. I'm fine with wild speculation actually. [00:53]
asciilifeform then go, speculate. [00:54]
midnightmagic asciilifeform: Congratulations on making simple interaction so expensive. [00:55]
midnightmagic .. for literally no gain. [00:56]
decimation ;;ticker [00:59]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 261.77, Best ask: 261.79, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 261.78, 24 hour volume: 44409.17613371, 24 hour low: 258.0, 24 hour high: 269.0, 24 hour vwap: None [00:59]
BingoBoingo midnightmagic: For tremendous gain [01:02]
asciilifeform aha. [01:02]
BingoBoingo midnightmagic: God is sitting this one out, All we have is math. [01:02]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: so which obscure german academic is going to have 'known about this for a year' ? same fella as they trotted out for phuctor ? [01:07]
asciilifeform or different one. [01:08]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: They'll pull out another. They can invent new ones when they run out. [01:08]
asciilifeform poor overworked philippinos [01:09]
asciilifeform thought they were signing up for a quiet life of sending viagra spam [01:09]
BingoBoingo Indeed, all they wanted was to spam boner pills and invent people for FakeBook profiles [01:10]
* trinque (~undata@unaffiliated/undata) has left #bitcoin-assets [01:12]
* trinque (~undata@unaffiliated/undata) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:12]
asciilifeform 197380+, counting [01:12]
danielpbarron https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/616093901401686017 [01:12]
asciilifeform eater - still eating [01:12]
danielpbarron 30 link clicks and counting.. [01:13]
midnightmagic well. be sure to post your 'wow' signal somewhere prominent when you find it. [01:14]
asciilifeform it'll be right here. [01:15]
* assbot gives voice to trinque [01:15]
decimation lolz http://blog.samaltman.com/energy < sam altman has a great new startup idea (YC certified): nuclear fusion [01:16]
assbot Energy - Sam Altman [01:16]
asciilifeform wake me up for the philosopher's stone startup [01:17]
decimation heh [01:17]
decimation asciilifeform: I shit you not: UPower: http://www.upowertech.com/ [01:17]
assbot UPower Technologies, Inc. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KpwL0V ) [01:17]
* asciilifeform wonders how many modern charlatans would carry on business if the consequence of failure to deliver were molten lead down their throat, as it often was for alchemists [01:18]
decimation and http://www.helionenergy.com/ < "By combining our years of experience in fusion, newly available electronics technologies, and a revolutionary design using cutting-edge physics, Helion is making a fusion engine 1,000 times smaller, over 500 times cheaper, and realizable 10 time faster than other projects." [01:18]
assbot Helion Energy ... ( http://bit.ly/1KpwMC4 ) [01:18]
decimation "this time it's even more realizable!!" [01:18]
asciilifeform gotta love 'than other projects' part [01:18]
decimation they are going the magnetic bottles route [01:19]
decimation according to their infographic [01:19]
asciilifeform 'our perpetuum mobile is far more perpetual than that of other projects' [01:19]
trinque ah man, I'll be able to bolt one of these to my emdrive and colonize mars [01:19]
decimation and 10 times more realizable too! [01:19]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu correctly observed that perpetuum mobile is pretty much the only thing that could save the shitempire [01:20]
asciilifeform and so expect it to become an obsession [01:20]
asciilifeform qin shi huangdi's immortality pills. [01:20]
trinque I will be so sad if a fusion breakthrough happens in the USA for that reason... [01:20]
decimation http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/06/30/california-internet-outage/29521335/ [01:21]
assbot FBI investigating 11 attacks on San Francisco-area Internet lines ... ( http://bit.ly/1IM47Tq ) [01:21]
asciilifeform l0l [01:21]
asciilifeform and they didn't even need a fusion-powered death ray, it seems [01:21]
trinque ctrl-f "china" [01:21]
trinque haven't blamed 'em yet [01:21]
decimation asciilifeform: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/20/the-immortality-financiers-the-billionaires-who-want-to-live-forever.html < larry ellison is literally demanding immortality pills [01:21]
assbot The Immortality Financiers: The Billionaires Who Want to Live Forever - The Daily Beast ... ( http://bit.ly/1IM4cXi ) [01:21]
asciilifeform there once was a time when usg cables were armoured in concrete tubes [01:22]
asciilifeform and switch boxes - guarded [01:22]
asciilifeform today they are in plastic pipes, and - unless belonging to cia/nsa in particular - marked with a bright orange public stake [01:22]
trinque << According to his biographer, Ellison sees death as “just another kind of corporate opponent he can outfox.” >> [01:23]
trinque bahahahah [01:23]
asciilifeform often the egress point, between the underground conduit and the switch box - is naked entirely [01:23]
trinque culture of narcissists indeed [01:23]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah, because nobody gives a fuck [01:23]
asciilifeform evidently ~somebody~ gave a fuck [01:23]
asciilifeform a few hacks of axe's worth of fuck [01:23]
decimation 'they' have 'gotten away' with shit infrastructure for decades, why start now [01:23]
decimation "Mark Peterson, a spokesman for Wave Broadband, said an unspecified number of Sacramento-area customers were knocked offline by the latest attack. He characterized the Tuesday attack as "coordinated" and said the company was working with Level 3 and Zayo to restore service." [01:24]
trinque sci fi story idea: they claim to have invented the immortality treatment, is actually a procedure for implanting your mind control chip [01:24]
trinque probably already done 100 times [01:24]
asciilifeform trinque: ancient [01:24]
asciilifeform !s dulap [01:25]
assbot 40 results for 'dulap' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dulap [01:25]
asciilifeform ^ my personal favourite [01:25]
decimation asciilifeform: let this be a wake up call, if you don't have your parachute ready... [01:25]
trinque asciilifeform: cool [01:25]
asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/romanian-bloggers-part-2 << mandatory [01:25]
assbot Romanian bloggers, part 2 on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IM4Kwt ) [01:25]
asciilifeform And the Prince inquired, like all boys his age, upon finding out what The Ritual actually was : [01:26]
asciilifeform - But do I actually have to cut off my cock and balls ?! Couldn't I just promise not to have kids and like, squirt outside ? [01:26]
asciilifeform - It's a symbol, in the shitvi, explained his father, the King. You have to experience real loss to understand the importance of respecting the subterranean world and its rules. It's not easy to do. That's why when someone does it, he's considered truly an adult and counted with people. Until then his notions don't matter. I know what I say may seem absurd to you, but then again one day you'll be prepared, and willing to cut o [01:26]
asciilifeform ff your cock and balls. That day you'll become a man. vii [01:26]
* DreadKnight (~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:26]
decimation lol [01:26]
cazalla wru deedbot [01:30]
phf asciilifeform: blk format is magic 4 byte sequence (http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#1779), then int32 size, then cblock [01:30]
asciilifeform aha [01:31]
asciilifeform pretty much what i said earlier [01:31]
phf yeap [01:31]
asciilifeform btw, eater is still eating at 200158+ [01:31]
trinque wat [01:31]
asciilifeform not long now [01:31]
scoopbot_revived Qntra (S.QNTR) June 2015 Statement http://qntra.net/2015/07/qntra-s-qntr-june-2015-statement/ [01:31]
* trinque goes to beat deedbot with a wrench [01:31]
trinque it thinks its connected on its end [01:32]
trinque might be a fun common lisp weekend project to redo it in that [01:32]
trinque I'm starting to dislike this golang bot [01:33]
* deedbot- (~deedbot-@ec2-54-68-114-104.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:33]
* assbot gives voice to deedbot- [01:34]
trinque cazalla: there he is if ya need it ^ [01:34]
cazalla deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1VBP07J.txt [01:34]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KpzkQI ) [01:34]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [01:34]
decimation trinque: does he become 'netsplit'? [01:35]
trinque decimation: I've seen that not handled well too, but this time he was just sitting there as if connected [01:35]
cazalla tfw buying a deciduous tree in the winter and feel like i bought a stick for $20 lol (Hovenia dulcis if anyone cares as much) [01:36]
decimation cazalla: I recently bought a new house, and I'm trying to figure out what trees I have [01:37]
decimation I'm not sure if I have a walnut or mountain ash, for instance [01:37]
decimation as Jesus says, you will know a tree by its fruit [01:37]
asciilifeform 201187+ [01:38]
cazalla i've been buying em online, was a suss about that but all of em have turned up fine so far [01:38]
cazalla a bit* even [01:38]
asciilifeform i'm off to bed. will wake up to the boojum, if it appears. [01:38]
decimation asciilifeform: 'night [01:39]
cazalla decimation, walnut would be a bonus.. i want to get a few pine nut trees but can be up to 10 years before you get anything from it [01:40]
decimation yeah, I agree, would be nice. Apparently the former owners let a weedy russian olive tree grow too [01:49]
* Duffer1 has quit (Quit: later) [01:58]
trinque speaking of which, the other weedy trees are legal here at midnight. [02:12]
BingoBoingo Just avoid the black walnuts, Their culture kills everything around them [02:14]
* liquidassets (4b6f1ccf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.111.28.207) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52050 @ 0.00049302 = 25.6617 BTC [+] {3} [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59579 @ 0.00048228 = 28.7338 BTC [-] {3} [02:28]
* aabtc has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [02:30]
ben_vulpes trinque: waiwut? [02:31]
ben_vulpes rly? [02:31]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: heck of a find, brownie! [02:31]
* ben_vulpes is unlikely to get dedicated testing time over the weekend [02:32]
ben_vulpes escaping america day in canada [02:33]
mats that's a confusing construction [02:34]
mats i wondered if you had moved north [02:35]
ben_vulpes eventually will [02:36]
ben_vulpes population flows aren't hard to predict in this neck of the woods [02:36]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: What about south or east? [02:38]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: this whole eatblock/dumpblock/compare hashes thing really is stellar [02:38]
trinque ben_vulpes: yeh our renegade pot law goes into effect [02:39]
ben_vulpes aha trinque well goodness me [02:39]
trinque wont use the 10th amendment to piss in the NSA's cheerios, but we'll certainly use it for that! [02:39]
ben_vulpes PISSS [02:39]
* BingoBoingo just back from pissing on the runt rosebush, could use the nitrogen [02:43]
* HeySteve (~Lizard__W@197.83.219.198) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:44]
* HeySteve has quit (Changing host) [02:44]
* HeySteve (~Lizard__W@unaffiliated/heysteve) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:44]
BingoBoingo !up HeySteve [02:45]
* assbot gives voice to HeySteve [02:45]
HeySteve hey, thanks [02:45]
ben_vulpes hey, seve [02:45]
ben_vulpes fuck [02:45]
HeySteve hi! [02:45]
ben_vulpes how's it hangin? [02:45]
mats heh, today's xkcd [02:46]
HeySteve all good and your side, ben_vulpes? [02:46]
ben_vulpes busy [02:47]
ben_vulpes alf sez he has a boojum in the blockchain [02:48]
HeySteve not that I've used their service but I've been reading about all the pushback Uber is getting around the world [02:48]
HeySteve http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-30/when-disruption-gets-too-disruptive [02:48]
assbot When Disruption Gets Too Disruptive | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLDpt1 ) [02:48]
HeySteve SA can be added to the list, lots of protests against Uber here. was wondering if there's a way to decentralise it... [02:49]
HeySteve BitUber or something [02:49]
mats lol [02:49]
* hanbot has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:52]
HeySteve Christine Walters, Johburg’s mayoral committee member for transport: "The city would like a South African flavour of black economic empowerment with Uber." - this sort of brain damage has taken over pretty much everything here [02:53]
mats not everything can or should be decentralized [02:54]
mats that's brain damage all on its own [02:54]
* BingoBoingo kinda likes the parallel car systems [02:55]
mats lyft was weird [02:56]
mats driver insisted i sit in front, fist bump him, and talk the whole trip [02:57]
mats deleted the app after i finished my free ride [02:57]
HeySteve mats, I hear you [02:57]
HeySteve but this is a case where it makes sense [02:58]
* BingoBoingo owns plastic car for this reason. [03:00]
ben_vulpes robot cars when [03:00]
HeySteve so app that handles escrow of fare, oracle uses GPS to verify destination was reached within a certain time, that's it... right? [03:01]
ben_vulpes i want to be able to put 5 million down on a fleet of robot cars and wreck an industry or 5 [03:01]
ben_vulpes trucks, whatever [03:01]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Fuck robot cars. I like pointing my deadly road machine where I like. [03:01]
ben_vulpes starting with cabs [03:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23619 @ 0.00046607 = 11.0081 BTC [-] [03:02]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: i dream of a world where the insurance to drive your own ass around is prohibitive for all but the ultra-rich [03:02]
* huseby (~huseby@unaffiliated/huseby) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:02]
ben_vulpes stop burning all the fucking oil to get your dumb asses around! [03:02]
ben_vulpes i'm speshul tho. i'm cool and i get to drive my car as much as i want :P [03:03]
BingoBoingo Nah, insurance should be cheap. Getting insurance though should be hard through other means. [03:03]
mats you gonna decentralize vehicle inspections, background checks, accounting, driver recruitment, commercial insurance, too? [03:04]
HeySteve eh, sounds like a lot of unecessary paperwork to me [03:04]
ben_vulpes no, i'm just going to put everyone involved with the piloting of vehicles out of work [03:04]
HeySteve rep system ftw [03:04]
mats ... [03:04]
HeySteve you worry too much, mats [03:05]
ben_vulpes !b 2 [03:05]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2TDGYCX.txt ) [03:05]
ben_vulpes it's a hazard of the dude's occupation. [03:05]
HeySteve ok but the big picture here is it'll give all the regulatory types a fit [03:06]
mats and nobody will care after a dozen women disappear after their last known position was inside one of your cars [03:08]
ben_vulpes dude video cameras [03:08]
ben_vulpes embrace the surveillance state [03:08]
ben_vulpes bezzle up! [03:09]
HeySteve driver will get bad rep after first abduction, so doubt he'll make it to a dozen unless he changes nick and car [03:09]
ben_vulpes WHAT DRIVER [03:09]
mats oh right, we can decentralize the video feed too [03:09]
HeySteve sorry, I mean the driverbot [03:09]
ben_vulpes decentralize nothing [03:09]
ben_vulpes own vehicles, record video [03:09]
BingoBoingo it's a hazard of the dude's occupation. << No, it is a Hazzard, for a certain sort of Duke [03:10]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: ba-dump-psh [03:10]
HeySteve lol [03:10]
mats excellent troll [03:11]
mats i concede [03:11]
ben_vulpes what troll [03:11]
ben_vulpes i'm going to buy a bunch of goddamn trucks. [03:11]
BingoBoingo embrace the surveillance state << I may or may not have around 2009 driven a VIP across county and or state lines because they did not want their travel recorded. [03:12]
* funkenstein (~josed@199.191.56.59) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:13]
mats am still amused by folks saying 'well it would be weird if uber wasn't spending tons to expand' after seeing term sheet [03:13]
* funkenstein is now known as Guest68596 [03:13]
* Guest68596 is now known as funkenstein_ [03:14]
mats like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry [03:14]
* assbot gives voice to funkenstein_ [03:14]
mats would sure like to meet these folks at a poker table [03:15]
* assbot removes voice from HeySteve [03:15]
* assbot gives voice to HeySteve [03:15]
BingoBoingo would sure like to meet these folks at a poker table << Honestly I'd just like to meet them at a bar or the pony track jsut to cycle the games they bleed through, because these colors don't run http://qntra.net/qntra.jpg [03:16]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLH368 ) [03:16]
* funkenstein_ prefers decentralized hitchhiking [03:17]
HeySteve el confedejito [03:17]
BingoBoingo el confedejito << Indeed. Should have taken Mexico First [03:18]
funkenstein_ BingoBoingo, something about that rabbit makes me think it is about to dunk on a regulation basket [03:18]
BingoBoingo funkenstein_: Not my rabbit, inquire with Chief edditoriador cazalla [03:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00047469 = 4.0823 BTC [+] [03:19]
trinque ben_vulpes: so like... https://github.com/omcljs/ambly/wiki/ClojureScript-React-Native-Quick-Start [03:19]
assbot ClojureScript React Native Quick Start · omcljs/ambly Wiki · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLHmOk ) [03:19]
cazalla BingoBoingo, perhaps Chef would be the appropriate word? :P [03:20]
BingoBoingo lol [03:20]
ben_vulpes like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry << normal american stock ponzi in action [03:22]
ben_vulpes should be legal! let the chumps get chumped. [03:22]
ben_vulpes trinque: you probly want reagent if it isn't rotting in place [03:23]
funkenstein_ blockchain getting hammered today, what is going on? [03:23]
ben_vulpes trinque: i haven't done clj->js in 5-10 months, so everything i know is probably stale [03:23]
ben_vulpes funkenstein_: "hammered"? [03:24]
trinque ben_vulpes: yeah you can use reagent in this manner [03:24]
funkenstein_ like, ddosed [03:24]
trinque wanted to know if the native thing would eat clojurescript, in case I end up having to use it [03:24]
BingoBoingo like, ddosed << No, "Stress Tested" which means showing how great present anti-spam limit is because spammers [03:25]
* ben_vulpes goes to read trinque's thing [03:25]
ben_vulpes oh naaaaitve [03:26]
ben_vulpes trinque: long day [03:26]
ben_vulpes good god man there are so many layers in that thing [03:28]
trinque I know right? such complexity mountain [03:28]
ben_vulpes i'm starting to wonder of 'clojure all the things' isn't a poettering-smell [03:28]
ben_vulpes if [03:28]
trinque of course it is [03:29]
trinque and in this case there's a browser underneath [03:29]
trinque so I'm not about to start preferring a particular flavor of shit [03:29]
trinque :D [03:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7981 @ 0.000467 = 3.7271 BTC [-] [03:31]
ben_vulpes it just takes the "duct tape the jet fighter to the submarine" mindset to a revolting degree [03:33]
ben_vulpes and i say that as a guy who duct tapes jet fighters to submarines [03:33]
trinque big time [03:33]
ben_vulpes (to deliver a pair of socks that nobody asked for) [03:33]
trinque hopefully this webassembly thing takes some pain out, but I'm sure it'll be a while on that [03:33]
ben_vulpes (that arrive wet) [03:33]
trinque haha [03:33]
ben_vulpes (because "'we'll iterate on it, instead of asking the engineers") [03:34]
ben_vulpes webasm huh? [03:34]
ben_vulpes can that be a common lisp runtime? [03:34]
funkenstein_ well if TX channels do break, it is eventually the resonsibility of the spender to get the TX to a pool - using external channel [03:36]
ben_vulpes sharp lisper might be able to sell software in that space. [03:36]
trinque ben_vulpes: that's what I would like [03:36]
trinque I've looked around for a common lisp on llvm, as that's what farts into webasm [03:36]
trinque haven't found anything that looked like a good decision [03:36]
trinque but maybe one's called for now [03:36]
ben_vulpes di i still have to fuck with the dom in webasm? [03:38]
trinque ben_vulpes: as I understand it, this is like... emscripten bytecode [03:41]
trinque emscripten has an API to poke the DOM I think [03:41]
trinque dunno whether you also get a lower level graphics api [03:42]
ben_vulpes i'm uninterested in anything new that touches the dom [03:44]
ben_vulpes but i'm a reluctant frontend guy to begin with. [03:44]
BingoBoingo Seriously we need to storm an intel fab/fap and start pumping out Z80++/MIPS/and Scheme79 chips [03:45]
ben_vulpes we'll be writing swift and javascript's successors until linus goes insane while still at the helm [03:45]
ben_vulpes and the whole thing implodes [03:46]
BingoBoingo I dunno swift and javascript need successors [03:46]
ben_vulpes objc/dom tech, BingoBoingo [03:46]
ben_vulpes java too likely [03:46]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Do you really need those things? Or do you merely want them? [03:47]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform would love to sleep forever, i would like to program in lisp all day [03:47]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: what is the casing of an oil well made of? [03:48]
BingoBoingo Steel. Because the well runs dry before it corrodes [03:48]
ben_vulpes 'tis a messy business. men lose hands, minds and lives. [03:49]
BingoBoingo Yeah [03:50]
ben_vulpes hands to the keyboard, minds to VN, lives to the altar of technology. [03:50]
BingoBoingo Kill it with fire. We're already stuck with Boost [03:51]
* ben_vulpes to bed, and tomorrow's blocknews [03:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3333 @ 0.00046535 = 1.551 BTC [-] [03:51]
BingoBoingo lol at skills now "rare" http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33291036 [03:58]
assbot Computer museum seeks BBC Micro fixers - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLNjLa ) [03:58]
* wywialm (~mateusz@unaffiliated/wywialm) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:04]
* julmac has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [04:06]
* julmac (~harric@82.221.107.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2386 @ 0.00046535 = 1.1103 BTC [-] [04:07]
* joshbuddy (~josh@wikimedia/Joshbuddy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:07]
* HeySteve has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:08]
* HeySteve (~Lizard__W@197.83.219.198) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:08]
* HeySteve has quit (Changing host) [04:08]
* HeySteve (~Lizard__W@unaffiliated/heysteve) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:08]
* HeySteve has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:11]
* diana_coman (~diana_com@unaffiliated/diana-coman/x-8319396) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:26]
* diana_coman has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:35]
* diana_coman (~diana_com@unaffiliated/diana-coman/x-8319396) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:40]
* mircea_popescu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [04:40]
* Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [04:40]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [11:46]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [11:46]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014 [11:46]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), send me "!up" in a private message to get an OTP. You must have a sufficient WoT rating. If you do not have a WoT account or sufficient rating, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary voice. [11:46]
jurov not much, but i'm behind on more important stuff, like less painful sigs tracking [11:46]
mircea_popescu hola! [11:46]
* #bitcoin-assets :Cannot send to channel [11:46]
asciilifeform ok [11:46]
* danielpb1rron (~dpb@c-71-232-150-212.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [11:46]
* assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu [11:47]
mircea_popescu good morning assets! [11:47]
mircea_popescu did i actually miss teh ragnarok ? [11:47]
asciilifeform i have omitted any discussion of yesterday's anomaly from this article, because i was unable to replicate it [11:47]
asciilifeform hence by the ancient 'pics or it didn't happen' theorem, it didn't happen... [11:47]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell, it was an ~actual~ cosmic ray [11:48]
mircea_popescu ima go through two days of logs over here, pray for me. [11:48]
asciilifeform (well, technically single-bit errors in dram are normally from alpha decay of the materials of which the damn thing itself is made) [11:48]
* SirJacket_ (sid58039@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pzdecfobemqkjuqn) has joined #bitcoin-assets [11:49]
* artifexd_ (sid28611@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msxojupzfnubtkma) has joined #bitcoin-assets [11:49]
* mariorz_ (sid490@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngztmuzspjfvwgps) has joined #bitcoin-assets [11:49]
mircea_popescu !up SirJacket_ [11:49]
-assbot- You voiced SirJacket_ for 30 minutes. [11:49]
* assbot gives voice to SirJacket_ [11:49]
* lobbes- (~lobbes@2a02:418:6050:ca7:ea75:b12d:37:8a5b) has joined #bitcoin-assets [11:49]
* asciilifeform bbl, spending some time in wheeled coffin [11:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform re teh seed : ima hopefully have it either working or a better idea of wtf is the problem in ~3-4 hoursd. [11:50]
* huseby has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* btcdrak has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* MobGod has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* mariorz has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* wpalczynski has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* elgrecoFL has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* t4nk has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* Mrstickball has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* SirJacket has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* tank100 has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* PFate has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* yrashk has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* CryptoGoon has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* artifexd has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* danielpbarron has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* lobbes has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
* stoon has quit (*.net *.split) [11:50]
mircea_popescu but so far : i put the chain on new server, moved over binary to work it (hey, should work right ?). it sort-of worked but with weird errors. had to have the thing recompiled, which lead to indicating the chain being broken. except the chain checked out, up to the last block. turns out human error on the splicing of the chain copy, so the ul had to be redone (not all , but the index is large) [11:51]
mircea_popescu and that brings us to the present. [11:51]
* lobbes- is now known as lobbes [11:51]
* lobbes has quit (Changing host) [11:52]
* lobbes (~lobbes@unaffiliated/lobbes) has joined #bitcoin-assets [11:52]
* wpalczynski_ is now known as wpalczynski [11:53]
* SirJacket_ is now known as SirJacket [11:53]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << the one thing left loose is that AFTER such, rms is not saying, to me or to anyone, "hey, drepper moved to the dark side, glibc was forked". the last thing you'd expect rms to be indicted for would be an inclination to "make things work" and fold for convenience rather than stand for principle. nevertheless... [11:54]
assbot Logged on 29-06-2015 20:38:44; ascii_field: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-ca [11:54]
mircea_popescu weird how the world works. [11:54]
* assbot gives voice to lobbes [11:54]
* btcdrak_ is now known as btcdrak [11:54]
jurov asciilifeform: limit raised to 64M (allows for ~ 50M attachments) [11:56]
* artifexd_ is now known as artifexd [11:56]
* julmac has quit (Ping timeout: 275 seconds) [11:57]
* Mrstickball_ is now known as Mrstickball [11:57]
mircea_popescu "*BUT*: updating the C library is no trivial task and it is very easy to damage one's system. Therefore, persons who do not exactly know what to do, should consider using a binary distribution instead, when it becomes available." [11:57]
* yrashk_ is now known as yrashk [11:59]
* CryptoGoon_ is now known as CryptoGoon [11:59]
mats http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/270137312/Bitstamp-Incident-Report-2-20-15 [12:00]
assbot Bitstamp Incident Report 2-20-15 ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxy9lp ) [12:00]
* danielpb1rron is now known as danielpbarron [12:01]
mats can drop /mobile/ from the url without issue [12:01]
mircea_popescu can drop scribd too ? [12:02]
* julmac (~harric@82.221.107.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:02]
scoopbot_revived Eulora mini update, July 1st http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-mini-update-july-1st/ [12:02]
* huseby (~huseby@unaffiliated/huseby) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:02]
decimation mats, asciilifeform, others: http://gcc.godbolt.org/#{%22version%22%3A3%2C%22filterAsm%22%3A{%22labels%22%3Atrue%2C%22directives%22%3Atrue%2C%22commentOnly%22%3Atrue}%2C%22compilers%22%3A[{%22sourcez%22%3A%22PTAEBUE8AcFNUgewK4CdQGNEBN4AtZVYAaURdAG0QENtRqA7UWAD2oFtoLYA6AKACWDAC6hsiAO54B3ABQBKPgG8%2BoUENHUA3KrGIl1UAF56oANQBGLQF9QuqTNiyADPJ3W%2BgkaAaTpcxRV1b21dQxNqS3cgAA%3D%3D%22%2C%22compiler%22%3A%22icc1301%22%2C%22options%22%3A%22%22} [12:02]
assbot Compiler Explorer ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxyuEp ) [12:02]
decimation ^ to continue our 'useless do before while' thread [12:02]
mats dear god that url [12:03]
mircea_popescu that url scares me [12:03]
mircea_popescu is it turing complete ? [12:03]
decimation yeah, well except would you rather a 'link shortner' to the same? [12:03]
mircea_popescu assbot provides [12:03]
decimation exactly [12:03]
mircea_popescu i just never saw a kernel url before is all. [12:04]
* Xuthus (~x@unaffiliated/xuthus) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:04]
mircea_popescu decimation maybe im slow, but what about it ? a push a pop two moves an imul [12:05]
* julmac has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [12:07]
decimation no I'm trying to figure it out too [12:07]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181359 << to expound on that : a trader is not a commodity enthusiast. in general enthusiasts make very poor traders, which is why all the gold bugs are poor. [12:07]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 00:10:56; mircea_popescu: i have my doubts. [12:07]
decimation I mean, it's legal C, but why both [12:07]
decimation mircea_popescu: that was Taleb's point too [12:07]
mircea_popescu aha [12:07]
* mariorz_ is now known as mariorz [12:07]
decimation I think it got cut off but the guy who thought 'green lumber' was literally boards painted green was an excellent trader [12:08]
mircea_popescu yeah it's in there. [12:08]
* elgrecoFL (sid39955@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pchuasalzlzklvyq) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:08]
* julmac (~harric@82.221.107.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:08]
* t4nk (t4nk@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-hutbdqtgjuhuzrzd) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:09]
* t4nk has quit (Changing host) [12:09]
* t4nk (t4nk@unaffiliated/t4nk) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:09]
* t4nk has quit (Changing host) [12:09]
* t4nk (t4nk@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-hutbdqtgjuhuzrzd) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:09]
decimation and it is what Fat Tony was talking about: oil traders 'all thought' that they knew about oil and the iraq war, whereas he saw that 'geopolitical analysis' and 'oil trade' isn't the 'same ting' [12:09]
* PFate (sid33238@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bkozobzvnxkglkyz) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:09]
mircea_popescu !up PFate [12:09]
-assbot- You voiced PFate for 30 minutes. [12:09]
* assbot gives voice to PFate [12:09]
mircea_popescu same principle yields "great politicians" who have no particular interest in what the flag looks like. [12:10]
* elgrecoFL has quit (Client Quit) [12:10]
decimation no I bring up the do{stuff} while(0) because it's in amazon's new openssl 'replacement' [12:10]
* mius has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [12:10]
* mius (~mius@unaffiliated/mius) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:11]
decimation https://github.com/awslabs/s2n/blob/master/utils/s2n_safety.h < here in the memcpy_check [12:11]
assbot s2n/s2n_safety.h at master · awslabs/s2n · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxAcpj ) [12:11]
decimation the library is well written C99 [12:11]
mats http://www.docdroid.net/159hk/270137312-bitstamp-incident-report-2-20-15.pdf.html reupload to a 'free online document hosting tool' [12:11]
assbot 270137312-Bitstamp-Incident-Report-2-20-15.pdf - DocDroid ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxAgWn ) [12:11]
mats BingoBoingo: ^ may be good for a scoop? not sure how new this information is [12:11]
decimation #define memcpy_check( d, s, n ) do { notnull_check( (d) ); if ( memcpy( (d), (s), (n)) != (d) ) { S2N_ERROR(S2N_ERR_MEMCPY); } } while(0) [12:12]
* stoon (stoon@znc.ipv6.coding4coffee.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:12]
decimation asciilifeform: ^ can you explain why the do{} while(0) structure? [12:12]
mats decimation: your link loads 'hello world' in the editor -- toss it into pastein? [12:12]
decimation here's a working shortener http://goo.gl/w7e54H [12:13]
assbot Compiler Explorer ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxAGfb ) [12:13]
mircea_popescu !up stoon [12:13]
decimation note that gcc creates exactly the same code for that structure [12:13]
-assbot- You voiced stoon for 30 minutes. [12:13]
* assbot gives voice to stoon [12:13]
decimation (compared to the non-do{}while(0) version) [12:14]
decimation intel's icc just puts in a useless extra check [12:14]
* decimation back to the mines [12:15]
mircea_popescu i have nfi. [12:16]
mats not sure either. am inquiring now. [12:18]
* mius_ (~mius@unaffiliated/mius) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:18]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181393 << spurious note left in accidentally. i was going to do some reverse tracking of the connecting ips, but in the end decided to just publish them, you can do yourself same thing. [12:18]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 00:30:42; mike_c: mircea_popescu: You left us hanging there! Since it's missing, I must know what those points of interest are :) [12:19]
* assbot removes voice from SirJacket [12:20]
mike_c ah, thanks. [12:20]
mats decimation: man in #asm sez, normally one uses that in #define's due to limitations on preprocessor macro syntax [12:20]
mircea_popescu mike_c sorry to have caused your genes distress :D [12:21]
* mius has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [12:22]
mats decimation: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/923822/whats-the-use-of-do-while0-when-we-define-a-macro [12:24]
assbot c - What's the use of do while(0) when we define a macro? - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxDtVD ) [12:24]
decimation mats: ah, ty. another link (from the above stackoverflow link) http://c-faq.com/cpp/multistmt.html [12:26]
assbot Question 10.4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1f19S8W ) [12:26]
* decimation really back to mines :) [12:27]
* elgrecoFL (sid39955@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-deesbdssjvczohrf) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:30]
mats "One of these, UPE_application_form.doc, contained obfuscated malicious VBA script. When opened, this script ran automatically and pulled down a malicious file from IP address 185.31.209.145, thereby compromising [Kodric's] machine." [12:32]
mats hue [12:33]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181418 << it's very funny to me, this. idiots are carefully averting other idiots' eyes from important shit. which is altogether a good thing, last fucking thing anyone wants is a deluge of "well meaning" idiots and other "enthusiasts". at least if the anyone in question stops and thinks about it for five minutes. [12:33]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 00:55:29; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181377 << my current understanding is that the blackout in 'reddit' et al. re: therealbitcoin is more or less total. [12:33]
mircea_popescu this sort of service one couldn't pay for, but i doubt they providing it are aware. somehow it seems ot me it'd be pretty painful if they found out. [12:34]
mod6 forgot post this in here lastnight: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000106.html [12:34]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxFNMs ) [12:34]
mircea_popescu mats what is that ? [12:36]
mats mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182807 << Bitstamp Incident Report February 20, 2015 [12:37]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 15:07:40; mats: http://www.docdroid.net/159hk/270137312-bitstamp-incident-report-2-20-15.pdf.html reupload to a 'free online document hosting tool' [12:37]
* samO (~samO@unaffiliated/samo) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:37]
mircea_popescu bwhaahah. [12:37]
mircea_popescu mind publishing the plaintext somewhere, say on your blog ? the turd is uselessly opaque, and for instance google doesn'ty know it [12:37]
mircea_popescu google should know it. [12:37]
mats gonna wait for BingoBoingo to wake up and get to it if you don't mind, i don't have a blog [12:38]
mircea_popescu aite. [12:38]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181432 << so it doesn't pay NOT to shoot at police. [12:38]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 01:55:29; decimation: "Authorities have warned from the start that the pair of fugitives might get their hands on guns. Matt did. And it may have been his undoing at that moment. Matt didn't shoot, but he also didn't comply with officers' order, so they opened fire." [12:38]
mircea_popescu just like it doesn't pay to NOT murder the chick you just raped. [12:39]
mircea_popescu just like on and on. the stupidity of us law enforcement is ever more fantastic. [12:39]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181438 << no, it was obvious. [12:40]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 02:32:10; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: in case this was not clear, it is now possible for the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests of therealbitcoin (memory consumption, etc) by denying a node a net connection and syncing from disk using 'eatblock'. [12:40]
* assbot removes voice from PFate [12:40]
jurov !mpif [12:41]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021438 B (Total: 425.93 B). Delta: -0.03 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+] [12:41]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181467 << o yeah. [12:41]
jurov !t m f.mpif [12:41]
assbot Some are born to endless night. [12:41]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 02:52:19; asciilifeform: it is now also possible to elementarily ferret out certain kinds of leaks - e.g., does importing the same bastard block ten thousand times result in an increase in ram footprint ? if so, we have leak [12:41]
mircea_popescu jurov did not trade o.O [12:42]
jurov in fact it did, but outside the book [12:42]
mircea_popescu o.O [12:42]
jurov ofc, report upcoming [12:42]
* assbot removes voice from stoon [12:44]
mircea_popescu cool [12:46]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181511 << there's a fascination with precarity i suspect the culprit here. to illustrate hwat i mean, suppose we take the island of hawaii cca 1815. at this point, the indigent savages are going about naked doing their indigent savagery, which does not much include murdering each other, and pointedly no writing or so on. [12:51]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 03:33:43; asciilifeform: you can't even win 'underhanded c contest' with them. they're ~screamingly~ bad ideas. [12:51]
mircea_popescu we introduce to these people the practice and contest of yachting. this is hard work, in that you have to make a yacht, and then sail it. [12:52]
* Duffer1 (~Duffer1@c-24-20-11-92.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:52]
mircea_popescu some of the healty, sane boys will put a lot of work into it, and get good enough to compete with us. [12:52]
mircea_popescu some of the anal children will instead make a "different" version of yachthing, which will consist of, for instance, birling. [12:53]
mircea_popescu why ? because intelligence and ambition are unrelated, and the ambitiously ungifted have absolutely no incentive in recognizing their shortcoming. it's not that it's cheaper to pretend. it's that literally no other alternative is present. [12:54]
mircea_popescu and so... they "are crypto entusiasts" and "You can go much stronger than that" and so on. [12:54]
mircea_popescu all the avatars of orphaned boyhood, kids who grow up without a father have no idea what games to play are there. [12:54]
* DreadKnight has quit (Quit: #AncientBeast - Master Your Beasts ( www.AncientBeast.com )) [12:54]
mircea_popescu but they also don't have a retroactive abortion mechanism (not that they aren't trying, look at any ghetto ever). [12:56]
mod6 lol birling [12:59]
mircea_popescu it's a thing. [13:00]
mircea_popescu anyway, the broadly fraudulent proposition that "you can make yourself better through X Y Z" be they hard work or prayer or anything else fundamentally exists as a direly needed social control mechanism. because the social cost of the ambitiously ungifted is plainly immense, societies have universally and often independently constructed this method to deal with the afflicted. [13:02]
mircea_popescu now, it existed as a cleaner, more useful thing before being coopted for this purpose, of course. much like anything else that's now being used to make large population densities possible was a lot nicer before being shat on [13:03]
* diana_coman has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:04]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181539 << not anymore than putin'd buy greece. [13:05]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 04:05:21; asciilifeform: if kim jong un had balls, perhaps he'd buy it. [13:05]
mircea_popescu who buys old whores and for what purpose ? [13:05]
* Lycerion_ (~Lycerion@unaffiliated/lycerion) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:06]
* Lycerion has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [13:09]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181585 << there is something in the entire "cutting off nose to spite your own face" thing. absent this, the pissant has no incentive to uinderstand it is a tiny spec, and may even pretend itself equal to every other asshole out there. [13:10]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 04:41:25; asciilifeform: hard to picture a sorrier bunch of bitter schmucks, eagerly taking it up the arse from history's biggest and most obscene communist mega-empire (usg) to spite their little piss-ant one [13:10]
* diana_coman (~diana_com@unaffiliated/diana-coman/x-8319396) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:11]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/06/pressure-in-the-united-states-mounts-to-ban-symbols-of-rebellion-against-federal-government/#comment-29482 << can't tell if serious... [13:12]
assbot Pressure in the United States Mounts to Ban Symbols of Rebellion Against Federal Government | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LV0ePi ) [13:12]
mircea_popescu "The legislative act exempted pensions from all measures, with initial plans to open some bank branches on Wednesday and full pensions being paid out. " << dude, fuck this shit. since when can there be exceptions ? [13:12]
mircea_popescu "The temporary prohibition is imposed in accordance with Article 20 of the Regulation (EU) No 236/2012 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 14 March 2012 on short selling and certain aspects of credit default swaps (OJ L 86/1, 2012)." << riiight. [13:13]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181605 << more than twitter! IT COULD BUY RUSSIA!!1 [13:14]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 05:05:52; decimation: lol http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-30/uber-bonds-term-sheet-reveals-470-million-in-operating-losses < related [13:14]
mircea_popescu idiots. [13:14]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181635 << pretty good dilemma. too bad it is purely logical which means it has nothing to do with the electoral process. [13:16]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 05:34:04; decimation: which defeats the point of asking individuals to make a decision for the group [13:16]
mircea_popescu He admitted that it would be difficult to collect the money from the Kentucky man. [13:17]
mircea_popescu “Just because I get a judgement, it’s a piece of paper—I can try to put a lien on his house, take his car, but he has various homestead exemptions,” he added, citing a law in Kentucky and elsewhere that exists to protect homeowners with deceased spouses who owe money to creditors. [13:17]
mircea_popescu heh. [13:17]
mircea_popescu creditor owed can not bother the debtor. meanwhile usg can go burn down his house for no reason. [13:18]
* Lycerion_ is now known as Lycerion [13:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00051312 = 8.133 BTC [+] {2} [13:21]
mircea_popescu "These aren't words that an American or a European politician can utter in public, and perhaps not even whisper to their significant other while lying in bed, because the American eavesdroppers might overhear them, and then the politician in question would get the Dominique Strauss-Kahn treatment" [13:22]
mircea_popescu heh. [13:22]
mircea_popescu anyway, as usual for orlov : the intro is right : yes, the average expenditure average us citizen can expect to make reasonably is ~1 dollar a day. yes things are going the way of http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/#selection-137.333-137.381 [13:27]
assbot The battlefield of the future on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LV2nud ) [13:27]
mircea_popescu aka, "Pork bellies go for ~$1 per pound, and so do you". [13:27]
mircea_popescu and so no, there's no serious question that the future of the us is anything else or anything different from the africa which it has for so long aimed to join. [13:27]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, the proposition that greece is a democracy is beyond laughable, and in general he takes a completely nonsequitur turn straight into nonsense midway. [13:28]
punkman more like derpocracy [13:28]
* HeySteve has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:29]
mircea_popescu sorta like italians but the chicks have bigger asses. [13:31]
mircea_popescu otherwise, same tv-driven rank nonsense & feelings. [13:31]
* joecool (~joecool@no-sources/joecool) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:31]
mircea_popescu !gettrust Jautenim [13:42]
assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Jautenim: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=Jautenim | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Jautenim/ [13:42]
mircea_popescu aok than [13:42]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181766 << not worth a thousand words eh ? [13:43]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 15:45:52; assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 07:53:07; cazalla: ben_vulpes, ay yo charts don't be earning no s.qntr shares CC: pete_dushenski [13:43]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181774 << where the fuck doies cisco have money from ? they've made losses about on par with uber [13:43]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 15:57:34; pete_dushenski: "Cisco Systems Inc (CSCO.O) said on Tuesday it would buy OpenDNS, a privately held cloud-based security company, for $635 million in cash and equity awards to beef up its security business." << might as well consolidate the crown corps, save on letterhead. [13:43]
mircea_popescu o wait... same place uber gets it right ? [13:44]
mircea_popescu "we want a db of everyone's travels, what is this bs where people can get a cab in peace" [13:44]
mircea_popescu fucktards already. i'll use uber just after i go to work for a transvestite brothel in bang gook. [13:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37470 @ 0.00051412 = 19.2641 BTC [+] {2} [13:46]
mircea_popescu woot! [13:46]
* joshbuddy (~josh@wikimedia/Joshbuddy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:47]
mircea_popescu !up joshbuddy [13:47]
-assbot- You voiced joshbuddy for 30 minutes. [13:47]
* assbot gives voice to joshbuddy [13:47]
* pete_dushenski (~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:49]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181835 << that's really not the best idea. make it a hammoc, something. [13:50]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 16:23:50; ben_vulpes: yeah some cosleeping to begin with [13:50]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181868 << yes he is. i just checked above. [13:51]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 17:59:00; mod6: ah, i don't think you're in assbot's L2. Sorry if I wasted your time. Just send the patch to me: modsix@gmail.com [13:51]
mircea_popescu jurov needs to stop keyboard-fu-ing eulora and fix the list!11eleventy. [13:52]
jurov !gettrust assbot jautenim [13:53]
assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user jautenim: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=jautenim | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/jautenim/ [13:53]
* julmac has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [13:54]
* julmac (~harric@82.221.107.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:54]
* Jautenim (~Jautenim@unaffiliated/jautenim) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:56]
* assbot gives voice to Jautenim [13:57]
* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [13:57]
* ascii_field (~ascii_fie@66-162-3-25.static.twtelecom.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:57]
pete_dushenski !up ascii_field [13:58]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [13:58]
pete_dushenski howdy howdy [13:58]
mircea_popescu Jautenim voice yourself plox. [13:58]
Jautenim worth noting that I used a subkey [13:58]
Jautenim not the primary one [13:58]
mircea_popescu that'd be it. [13:59]
jurov Jautenim: try resending it [13:59]
Jautenim damn [13:59]
Jautenim it is locked away in the fuhrerbunker [13:59]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182774 << ty jurov! [13:59]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 14:52:26; jurov: asciilifeform: limit raised to 64M (allows for ~ 50M attachments) [13:59]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182882 << based on 2nd comment, i'm going to say he's a troll [14:00]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 16:08:00; mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/06/pressure-in-the-united-states-mounts-to-ban-symbols-of-rebellion-against-federal-government/#comment-29482 << can't tell if serious... [14:00]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182780 << my broadcast will be out tonight, wanted to include the last experiment in it [14:00]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 14:58:12; scoopbot_revived: Eulora mini update, July 1st http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-mini-update-july-1st/ [14:00]
pete_dushenski the 'Keep the symbol in government forever.' bit it too rich to be real. [14:00]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182771 << actually rms was 'for convenience' from day 1, when he abandoned the lispmachine [14:01]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 14:49:54; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << the one thing left loose is that AFTER such, rms is not saying, to me or to anyone, "hey, drepper moved to the dark side, glibc was forked". the last thing you'd expect rms to be indicted for would be an inclination to "make things work" and fold for convenience rather than stand for principle. nevertheless... [14:01]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182803 << NO! for fuxxsake, read it. it DOES NOT IMPLEMENT CRYPTO ROUTINES, rides on top of existing lib (e.g., openssl) [14:01]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 15:06:32; decimation: no I bring up the do{stuff} while(0) because it's in amazon's new openssl 'replacement' [14:01]
mircea_popescu i'll tell you im getting plenty sick of this entire "everything around is a bug's nest" [14:02]
ascii_field media lied, as is sop [14:02]
mircea_popescu i wasn't born a bug and how the fuck did i end up here ?! [14:02]
ascii_field bzzzzpsshss [14:02]
mircea_popescu wait, amazon is replacing shit by vacu-packing it in convenient, easy sized, value packs ? [14:02]
mircea_popescu herp. [14:02]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182832 << run moar winblowz!! [14:03]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 15:28:43; mats: "One of these, UPE_application_form.doc, contained obfuscated malicious VBA script. When opened, this script ran automatically and pulled down a malicious file from IP address 185.31.209.145, thereby compromising [Kodric's] machine." [14:03]
mircea_popescu how does this shit even work ? can their word editor open net connections !? [14:03]
mircea_popescu what is it, emacs ? [14:04]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182852 << did this. posted as of this morning to ml. [14:04]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 15:35:54; assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 02:32:10; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: in case this was not clear, it is now possible for the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests of therealbitcoin (memory consumption, etc) by denying a node a net connection and syncing from disk using 'eatblock'. [14:04]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1182068 << yeah i know. [14:04]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 21:48:04; shinohai: There is a slight spelling error in this document: http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt [14:04]
kakobrekla that was Nejces brother computer: "IT security, enterprise servers/storage. IT wizard @ Bitstamp" source: https://twitter.com/ilukeberry [14:04]
mircea_popescu !s "i can't spell" [14:04]
assbot Luka Kodrič (@ilukeberry) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1B47o ) [14:04]
assbot 4 results for '"i can't spell"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22i+can%27t+spell%22 [14:04]
* MiningBuddy (~MiningBud@unaffiliated/miningbuddy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:04]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla loller [14:05]
mats and he still has responsibilities after losing bidness 18,000 BTC and 650k+ USD [14:05]
mats what an organization [14:05]
mircea_popescu that's ok, they'll make it back OUT OF BEING LEGAL AND COMPLIANT!!11 [14:06]
mircea_popescu nuts. [14:06]
mats smells of inside job if i ever sniffed one [14:06]
jurov And God spake unto them: "Go forth and regulate". [14:07]
chetty careful what you sniff [14:07]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182954 << of course it can ! [14:07]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 16:59:51; mircea_popescu: how does this shit even work ? can their word editor open net connections !? [14:07]
mircea_popescu who wants to run an editor that can open the net ? [14:08]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182970 << misread, with last line, as 'go forth and sniff glue' [14:08]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 17:02:55; jurov: And God spake unto them: "Go forth and regulate". [14:08]
mircea_popescu i really don't get this "put all the things in all the things" nonsense. [14:08]
mircea_popescu do these people's heads come with feet in them ? [14:08]
mircea_popescu "oh you know, if your head needs to take a walk - now it can!" [14:08]
pete_dushenski "why have a symphony when you can have a one-man-band !" [14:09]
jurov and keep talking to google time servers [14:09]
pete_dushenski "it's moar efficient!" [14:09]
mircea_popescu "i got a new girlfriend - she came with a built in boyfriend!" [14:10]
mats another goxxing is just a matter of time at this point [14:10]
mats everybody in the org using windows, wtf [14:10]
mircea_popescu mats so they're practically like the US DoD. [14:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38650 @ 0.00051466 = 19.8916 BTC [+] [14:13]
mats it shocks the mind that such people are trusted with anything [14:13]
mircea_popescu ascii_field : LoadBlockIndex(): hashBestChain=00000000000000001160 height=362808 << confirmed. my chain is fine, delay and difficulties to date due to operator error. [14:13]
mircea_popescu the seeder is coming back online momentarily. for my own curiosity, re-start the syncing and compare the two sets you get. [14:13]
ascii_field ahahahaha [14:13]
mats and on the subject of shock... i still can't get over the fact that Stuxnet happened [14:14]
ascii_field say when [14:14]
jurov mats actually show me one person that is trusted with $$$ or lives and does *not* use windows [14:14]
jurov we need some role models here [14:14]
mats chinese, afaik [14:14]
jurov that's not one person [14:14]
mircea_popescu i've last used windows xp a decade ago to play might and magic. [14:15]
mircea_popescu meanwhile they figured out how to make the old games run in emulator. [14:15]
jurov my own fkn brother simlates megawatts of energy and kilotons of overheated steam using... excel. [14:16]
jurov tried ooo, rejected in disgust [14:16]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: connected, stalled [14:16]
mircea_popescu ascii_field o.O [14:16]
jurov and programming? why? [14:16]
* WolfGoethe (~textual@65.209.61.114) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:16]
mircea_popescu you have got to be kidding me. [14:16]
ascii_field same pattern as before [14:17]
mircea_popescu this is ridiculous. [14:17]
ascii_field short burst, followed by long period of wtf [14:17]
mircea_popescu ok so last time there was a bona fide index/db problem, which made it be slow and painful. [14:17]
mats ooo hasn't been patched in years [14:17]
mircea_popescu but atm it's zipping around doing 2mbps [14:17]
mats afaik [14:17]
* assbot removes voice from joshbuddy [14:18]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: all i can say is that i'm seeing ~exactly~ same pattern as before [14:18]
ascii_field socket open, nothing moves [14:18]
mircea_popescu so... it wasn't that then ?! [14:18]
* mircea_popescu baffled. [14:18]
ascii_field evidently not. [14:18]
jurov tried to break in gdb? [14:19]
mircea_popescu i mean, there were occasional spikes in load in the previous incarnation, and i figured those may be it. but now it's smooth as butter. [14:19]
ascii_field jurov: try to make sense of any of it in gdb [14:19]
mircea_popescu jurov you ever tried that nm lol. [14:19]
kakobrekla anyone saved that buttstamp doc, scribd removed it [14:19]
jurov http://www.docdroid.net/159hk/270137312-bitstamp-incident-report-2-20-15.pdf.html [14:20]
assbot 270137312-Bitstamp-Incident-Report-2-20-15.pdf - DocDroid ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1E6bX ) [14:20]
mircea_popescu fucking hate scribd bs [14:20]
kakobrekla thanks jurov [14:20]
mircea_popescu which hate has apparently saved a bit of internet comedy from extinction. [14:20]
* diana_coman has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:21]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: about 5 sec burst of data, followed by 40-infinity sec. of silence. [14:21]
* shinohai has quit (K-Lined) [14:21]
mircea_popescu ascii_field i can at this point guarantee to you it is not due to this machine. [14:22]
mircea_popescu which just finished syncing, btw. [14:22]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: pretty sure we are being fucked with downstream. [14:22]
mircea_popescu is it possible your isp is being fucktarded ? [14:23]
mircea_popescu like doesn't want you gaming or whatever the nutty fuck ? [14:23]
ascii_field i'm sitting on a different, industrial isp, 100km away from home [14:23]
ascii_field and i've never had the slightest problem of the kind suggested above, with either [14:23]
* ascii_field pays serious coin for bandwidth [14:23]
mircea_popescu nuts. [14:24]
kakobrekla another mirror if that one gets taken down http://pdfsr.com/pdf/270137312-bitstamp-incident-report-2-20-15.pdf [14:24]
assbot 270137312-Bitstamp-Incident-Report-2-20-15.pdf - PdfSR.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1EN4O ) [14:24]
kakobrekla hm [14:24]
ascii_field kakobrekla: 'required adobe flash player' [14:24]
kakobrekla i guess i can just put it on ba files server [14:24]
mircea_popescu maybe bb or someone de-pdfs it already [14:25]
mircea_popescu aaand in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/53844fb220f5d0917b9c844907c9f2f4/tumblr_nh26kcSHGN1ti99ofo1_1280.jpg [14:26]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1FnQb ) [14:26]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1182121 << aahhahaha check this out alfie! dept of propaganda thinks it's lost. [14:27]
assbot Logged on 30-06-2015 22:40:30; shinohai: hue, motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-is-unsustainable?trk_source=homepage-lede [14:27]
mircea_popescu go sustain yourselves on cocks, nameless "journalists". [14:28]
punkman http://www.businessinsider.com/david-cameron-encryption-back-doors-iphone-whatsapp-2015-7 [14:28]
assbot David Cameron says he wants back doors in encyption products - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1FEm3 ) [14:28]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [14:28]
punkman "We have always been able, on the authority of the home secretary, to sign a warrant and intercept a phone call, a mobile phone call or other media communications, but the question we must ask ourselves is whether, as technology develops, we are content to leave a safe space" [14:28]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [14:28]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [14:28]
punkman "for terrorists to communicate with each other." [14:28]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: what is peculiar about this piece? reads like the same old crap [14:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00051466 = 10.4476 BTC [+] [14:29]
mircea_popescu nah, they had the "unsustainable" crapola on the back burner for a coupla years, as they were hoping they may actually elbow themselves into relevancy all through 2013-14 [14:29]
mircea_popescu we're moving back to 2011-2012 it would seem. [14:29]
ascii_field and as someone pointed out in last night's thread, let's compute the energy lost by failing to boil visa, mastercard execs into biodiesel [14:29]
mircea_popescu the meta point is of interest here. [14:30]
mircea_popescu they've realligned. [14:30]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: your node continues to emit bursts [14:30]
mircea_popescu as it is i have nfi what to do about it. [14:30]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: put copy of same in another country, i'll compare. [14:31]
mircea_popescu alrighty. [14:31]
mircea_popescu it'll be a few days to get everything settled out. [14:32]
ascii_field ...and now it's rolling [14:33]
* ascii_field wonders if it was transmitting into a philippino buffer [14:33]
ascii_field which had to fill [14:33]
mircea_popescu oh ? [14:34]
ascii_field aha [14:35]
ascii_field 39000+ [14:35]
ascii_field 45000+ [14:36]
ascii_field ...and counting [14:36]
mircea_popescu that sounds morel ike it. [14:36]
decimation ascii_field: shit, you are right, the amazon s2d is just a pretty TLS wrapper around the openssl crypto turd [14:37]
decimation s2n even [14:37]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182162 << all clients that sync after a certain blkxxxx file was filled will get the exact same file (different from any of the ones of the peers they sync from). all clients that sync durin will get different ones [14:37]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 00:25:18; mod6: i have 3 full-sync'd chains from between January and March, all have the same blk0001.dat hash: sha256sum blk0001.dat 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a blk0001.dat [14:37]
decimation wtf is the point [14:37]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: iirc i explained this last night [14:38]
mircea_popescu ah ok. [14:38]
ascii_field (thing stows blocks in real time, never erases. see src) [14:38]
mircea_popescu i was doing like 5 things at once past coupla days and so ended up leaving all sorts of things unexplained fully. [14:38]
* ascii_field also. [14:38]
decimation mircea_popescu: bottom line, satoshi stores a binary blob of the blockchain AND also the bdb database [14:39]
decimation in theory, if orphans are removed, we should yeild the same blockchain turds [14:39]
mircea_popescu decimation well, it's so to speak "unstrained" if you're there, and "strained" if you hear about it later. [14:39]
mircea_popescu nah cause also ordering issues [14:39]
ascii_field mno [14:39]
decimation blocks are stored in order [14:39]
ascii_field not in the blkxxxx [14:39]
ascii_field aha in order [14:39]
decimation although it seems there might be disagreement between nodes in later blkxxxx.dat files [14:40]
mircea_popescu i think some implementations end up with different gaps between them or something. [14:40]
mircea_popescu something like that [14:40]
Jautenim jurov nope [14:41]
Jautenim i'm sending a blank email with these three attachments: http://dpaste.com/1YPE04M http://dpaste.com/2XV9P7V http://dpaste.com/2DDHFF4 [14:41]
assbot dpaste: 1YPE04M: something.txt ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1Ifwh ) [14:41]
assbot dpaste: 2XV9P7V: jautenim_openssl_docs_snip.patch ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1IebW ) [14:41]
assbot dpaste: 2DDHFF4: jautenim_openssl_docs_snip.patch.sig ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1Ifwl ) [14:41]
decimation ascii_field: one wonders why bezos didn't order the creation of his own rsa code [14:42]
mircea_popescu i am willing to take any odds on "he doesn't know this exists" [14:43]
ascii_field Jautenim: we already have the install_sw thing - see http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html [14:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1IuaO ) [14:43]
* WolfGoethe has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) [14:43]
mircea_popescu from experience, most people's understanding of cryptography is comensurate with your average 1700s peasants' understanding of contraception. [14:43]
ascii_field l0l! [14:43]
Jautenim gah, I didn't check the new stator.sh [14:44]
Jautenim allrighto [14:44]
decimation yeah that seems about right [14:44]
decimation mircea_popescu: but seemingly everyone is a "crypto enthusiast" today. [14:45]
mircea_popescu only here. [14:46]
jurov Jautenim: problem was here, all three came through [14:47]
mircea_popescu anyway, it is interesting to point out that the first 2 gb blockindes fit a whopping 188k blocks [14:47]
mircea_popescu these days they're still fitting 3-5k blocks. [14:47]
mircea_popescu soon it will be a new 2gb file each two weeks. [14:47]
ascii_field aha, that's about right for 10min, 1MB blocks [14:48]
ascii_field (upper limit) [14:48]
* WolfGoethe (~textual@65.209.61.114) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:48]
decimation you know with these 'blockchain bitrates' I would be concerned about bitrot on disks [14:48]
decimation not like pogos have ecc [14:48]
* gares__ (~gares@unaffiliated/gares) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:48]
ascii_field decimation: i'm pretty certain that i experienced a bitflip last night [14:49]
mircea_popescu decimation very much so. [14:49]
decimation actually, this is an excellent case for putting ecc in bitcoin [14:49]
ascii_field decimation: ecc cannot be implemented in software [14:50]
decimation or at least, in the disk-storage gismo [14:50]
decimation why not [14:50]
ascii_field (to an extent, sure, but ~any bit~ can flip) [14:50]
ascii_field including arbitrary code bit [14:50]
mircea_popescu there are many considerations here. for instance, as an exercise to the trainee : calculate the minimum storage space required to GUARANTEE bit=wise identity over X bytes of information. [14:50]
decimation yeah, but I don't give a shit if a pogo's code bit flips, probably will crash [14:50]
ascii_field mno [14:50]
mircea_popescu obviously, for t = infinity the size -> infinity. [14:50]
ascii_field this is very much a mistake [14:51]
decimation I do give a shit if none of the pogos have a coherent record of the blocks [14:51]
mircea_popescu wait, wut ?! [14:51]
* gares has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:51]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: that one's easy - infinity [14:52]
* julmac has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:52]
decimation in noisy channels there are no guarantees [14:52]
ascii_field ^ [14:52]
* julmac (~harric@82.221.107.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:52]
ascii_field best one can hope for is to get it an order of magnitude below 'asteroid hits your computer' probability [14:52]
decimation ascii_field: the problem: try finding reliable statistics on your consumer grade hard drives [14:52]
mircea_popescu myeah. [14:52]
mircea_popescu because we live in the best possible world built on top of !!!science!!! so nothing is ever sold by any sort of spec. [14:52]
ascii_field blockchain really belongs on combo of mask and antifuse rom [14:53]
ascii_field afaik neither is manufactured today [14:53]
ascii_field i tried to buy some [14:53]
ascii_field (mask rom for known blocks from the past, antifuse for future ones) [14:53]
ascii_field both are immune to anything short of room-melting level of radiation [14:53]
ascii_field (on the former, no way to flip a bit - physically - at all; on the latter - need high current and moderately high voltage) [14:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36489 @ 0.00051236 = 18.6955 BTC [-] [14:54]
decimation as for mechanical drives the best info I can find is here https://www.backblaze.com/blog/best-hard-drive/ [14:56]
assbot The Ultimate Hard Drive Test: What Hard Drive is Best? ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1MQ1M ) [14:56]
mircea_popescu ascii_field still normal ? [14:57]
ascii_field bursts [14:57]
mircea_popescu it reverted to bursts ?! [14:57]
ascii_field 130799 [14:57]
ascii_field aha [14:57]
Jautenim screw this -.- http://i.imgur.com/743Om34.png [14:57]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1N1Kp ) [14:57]
Jautenim sorry [14:57]
mircea_popescu Jautenim lol wut is that. [14:58]
ascii_field http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/thread.html << this, apparently [14:58]
assbot The BTC-dev July 2015 Archive by thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1NbBn ) [14:58]
mircea_popescu ascii_field nuts. i tell you ... the load is < .2 and has not peaked above 1 (this is on 8 cpu machine). there is nothing deferred or anthing suspicious in the logs. the eth card is doing fine. two dozen connections, routinely hitting 1mbps. etc. [14:58]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: downstream. [14:59]
ascii_field must be. [14:59]
mircea_popescu it must. [14:59]
ascii_field this is gonna be a problem [14:59]
mircea_popescu it might. [14:59]
ascii_field i suspect we have come to a 'chinese' point [14:59]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [14:59]
mircea_popescu !up ascii_field [14:59]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [14:59]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [14:59]
mircea_popescu howssat ? [15:00]
jurov try to run it in ssh tunnel? [15:00]
ascii_field where the buggers use what they have - control over backbones - to annoy people [15:00]
ascii_field ssh tunnel is what i suggested earlier aha [15:00]
ascii_field but not a long-term solution to anything [15:00]
* ascii_field observes 5 sec. or so burst [15:00]
mircea_popescu a) that, b) what would it do ? [15:00]
decimation ascii_field: it could also be just misconfigured routers [15:00]
decimation "buffer bloat" [15:00]
mircea_popescu we know we can actually pass data between each other. what we wish to find out is what causes this behaviour and who to kill. [15:00]
mircea_popescu decimation yes, but this server would not stand if that were the case. [15:01]
jurov if ssh works fine, you'd confirm that someone is doing packet inspection [15:01]
ascii_field ^ [15:01]
mircea_popescu i guess. [15:01]
mircea_popescu ascii_field whadda ya need ? [15:01]
decimation if you are using a standard linux distro, it's well known that older kernels had buffer bloat/tcp tuning issues [15:01]
ascii_field except, who exactly needed to inspect [15:01]
ascii_field mircea_popescu announced the box ip publicly [15:02]
mircea_popescu decimation recent centos tho. [15:02]
ascii_field after that, red phone in derpistan dept. of derp rang [15:02]
decimation has ancient kernel [15:02]
decimation I have experienced buffer bloat issues using a centos router [15:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00051466 = 14.5649 BTC [+] [15:02]
ascii_field i'm gonna guess the entire link between anywhere i can go without taking a plane, and mircea_popescu's box, is burpy on account of packets hitting tape before they get to me [15:02]
jurov well, that would show in netstat output? [15:03]
jurov in SendQ column [15:03]
decimation good point, probably work [15:03]
decimation probably would show I mean [15:03]
ascii_field 'In addition, we have paid out approximately $250,000 to programmers hired to rebuild and improve our platform; paid approximately $250,000 (and counting) to the Stroz Friedberg team; and at least $150,000 more for various security reviews, and legal and financial advice. These out of pocket costs are continuing to accrue.' [15:05]
ascii_field ^ l0l!!! [15:05]
ascii_field 'In addition, to prevent future capital losses of this kind, we have contracted with a vendor to provide “multi-sig” technology to better protect our hot wallet (this particular transfer could not have happened today) and hired a skilled technology company, Xapo, to assist in managing our cold wallet.' [15:05]
ascii_field ^ ahahahahahaha [15:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114900 @ 0.00051525 = 59.2022 BTC [+] {3} [15:06]
jurov ya. no word about executives' filthy laptops. [15:07]
ascii_field 'The gambit for this phishing attack was to offer Mr Merlak free [15:07]
ascii_field tickets to Punk Rock Holiday 2015. (Merlak is keen on punk rock and has played in a band.)' [15:07]
decimation or why those filthy laptops can come anywhere near their 'hot wallet key' [15:08]
decimation ascii_field: note the statistics from backblaze don't show the probability of single bit errors (undetected by the drive) [15:10]
ascii_field decimation: dram bitflips are far more interesting [15:10]
ascii_field because you can't get 'raid' for dram [15:10]
ascii_field whereas nobody serious gives a fuck re: disks [15:10]
decimation yeah, but we have jungle hardware, can't get ecc dram [15:11]
ascii_field because P(bit-n-disk0 + bit-n-disk1) flip ~= 0 [15:11]
decimation right, but pogo class machine only has one drive [15:11]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: connects, disconnects, without transfer of anything [15:11]
ascii_field for ~10min now [15:11]
mircea_popescu "the stroz friedberg team" ? wtfd is that. [15:11]
ascii_field decimation: pogo is to have strength in numbers [15:11]
* Jautenim has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:12]
decimation yeah, but if each pawn is too week to carry weapon, have nothing [15:12]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: some 'cyber sek000r1ty!11!! firm' [15:12]
mircea_popescu ridiculous. [15:12]
mircea_popescu so they spent 250k (abnd counting) so as to lose 4mn off a schmuck's home connection ? [15:12]
mircea_popescu whatever, owners' / investors' problem. [15:13]
mircea_popescu or why those filthy laptops can come anywhere near their 'hot wallet key' << this is easy enough to answer, if you think about it. and if you don't... if you let history be your guide. [15:13]
mircea_popescu i'd withdraw anything i had in that shithole by now, had i not withdrawn it long before, had i had anything in there in the first place. [15:14]
decimation what's amusing is that nobody gets it right, or apparently even tries [15:14]
decimation imagine how bad fiat systems are [15:14]
mircea_popescu or at least, "no one you'd hear about on reddit" [15:14]
mircea_popescu because yes, the point of life is to preserve that most valuable delusion - that "nobody could have foreseen..." [15:15]
decimation well, as far as bitcoin exchanges are concerned [15:15]
mircea_popescu essentially the adult version of "but daddy, all the kids in class got this question wrong too!" [15:15]
mircea_popescu but to get back to jurov's more interesting thread [15:16]
mircea_popescu netstat wut ? [15:16]
jurov netstat -tnp [15:16]
* mircea_popescu is trying to bootstrap the public interest in the matter into getting a networking education for himself. [15:16]
mircea_popescu sudo ? or just plain ? [15:16]
jurov and it shows all open connections, with kernel buffers [15:16]
jurov usually sudo [15:16]
decimation yeah, find ascii's connection and see what the sendQ value is [15:17]
jurov with general conclusion that if SendQ buffer is empty then it's application fault [15:17]
decimation assuming that this is the last machine that touches it before it goes to your isp [15:18]
jurov otherwise either kernel stalls or pipe is congested(dropped packets, whatever) [15:18]
mircea_popescu stuff like 422816 k in the sendq [15:18]
decimation the stereotypical 'buffer bloat' problem is that you find packets become extremely lagged when there is heavy bandwidth use [15:18]
mircea_popescu but atm i don't even see stan's client connected. [15:19]
mircea_popescu otherwise either kernel stalls or pipe is congested(dropped packets, whatever) << i thought this may well be it previously, as load was uncharacteristically high for this application. but solved that problem and apparently no improvement. [15:20]
mircea_popescu decimation i know, but this is a major server doing all sorts of other things. it could not stand for five minutes if that were the problem. [15:21]
ascii_field ... and rolling again [15:21]
ascii_field ... and then not [15:21]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell BingoBoingo qntsideration for ya! http://dpaste.com/0PSVYP8.txt [15:22]
gribble The operation succeeded. [15:22]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1BZ7pWi ) [15:22]
ascii_field and nobody even read the mega-experiment from this morning yet, afaik [15:23]
ascii_field (result of the last 4 days) [15:23]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182283 << aha there we go. [15:23]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 02:51:53; asciilifeform: if his blk** are ~original~ - as in, they were formed ~as the blocks happened~ - they can contain orphaned (in the traditional sense) blocks [15:23]
mircea_popescu i think they're called "stale" [15:23]
mircea_popescu ie, were but are no longer longest chain [15:24]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell cazalla and for uuuu! http://dpaste.com/3HH0TQE.txt [15:24]
gribble The operation succeeded. [15:24]
ascii_field aha [15:24]
mircea_popescu different from the orphan, which is "block with no known connection to the hcain" [15:24]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1THrW ) [15:24]
pete_dushenski bbiab [15:24]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: the latter we now call 'bastard' [15:24]
mircea_popescu alright. but the former's still stale rather than orphan [15:24]
mircea_popescu as it does have a daddy, just, daddy got married with a wanton slut [15:24]
ascii_field l0l aha [15:24]
mircea_popescu romaian would be "dezmostenit" [15:25]
mircea_popescu not sure english comprehends. [15:25]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: the terminology 'orphan' is used in the source, hence why i referred to it [15:25]
ascii_field ('stale' is a better term, but does not appear in src) [15:25]
mircea_popescu aha. but anyway : yes all my blks are original in that sense, this bneing the whole point of the exercise. [15:26]
mircea_popescu (i also have strained variants, obviously - but of what interest are they) [15:26]
ascii_field another short burst [15:27]
* Eulorian (5d7d3105@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.125.49.5) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:27]
mircea_popescu !up Eulorian [15:27]
-assbot- You voiced Eulorian for 30 minutes. [15:27]
* assbot gives voice to Eulorian [15:27]
mircea_popescu hey there. [15:27]
mircea_popescu ascii_field are the bursts mechanically the same ? like, all 500kb or w/e ? [15:28]
ascii_field no [15:28]
ascii_field varies [15:28]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [15:30]
* Eulorian has quit (Client Quit) [15:30]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182356 << i could have sworn there's some weird padding in there [15:31]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 03:32:56; asciilifeform: iirc, it is [mainortestchainflag][length][blockdata] repeated again and again [15:31]
mircea_popescu usure ? [15:31]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [15:32]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [15:32]
ascii_field https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29424.msg370335#msg370335 << as pictured here [15:32]
assbot File formats -- blkindex.dat and blk0001.dat ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1Vm0F ) [15:32]
mircea_popescu ascii_field eh. proceeding from the other direction : not only is the need for a bdb datastore directly indicative of allignment problems, but moreover its presence virtually guarantees them. so no, i don't think you can actually rely on "block after block" thing, but then again i can't be arsed to emacs a .dat [15:34]
mircea_popescu honestly the only sane arrangement would be either a) store each block as a file, or else b) store blocks in arbitrary sized files, each starting at offsed 1Mb * block_count [15:35]
ascii_field the bdb thing is for tx (and block-by-header) indexing [15:35]
ascii_field as so the thing doesn't end up running in O(N) time [15:35]
ascii_field 'each block as a file' strains filesystem [15:35]
mircea_popescu no fucking idea why it hasn't implemented a from the get go incidentally. [15:35]
ascii_field (and kills winblowz dead of course) [15:35]
mircea_popescu yeah but filesystem is who is supposed to deal with this. [15:36]
mircea_popescu NOT MY JOB OMFG [15:36]
mircea_popescu let the problem be solved once and solved well. [15:36]
ascii_field filesystems (other than reiser) don't like dir full of millions of turdz [15:36]
mircea_popescu so make it a dir tree. [15:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49923 @ 0.00051175 = 25.5481 BTC [-] {2} [15:36]
ascii_field it is easy to solve. just define custom fs for blockchain [15:36]
ascii_field we spoke of this ages ago [15:36]
mircea_popescu myeah. [15:36]
ascii_field let it have own block device. [15:36]
mircea_popescu yet another place where bitcoind and kernel merge. [15:36]
mircea_popescu because if you run bitcoin on that system, ALL the tradeoffs the kernel makes MUST be organised around its needs. [15:37]
ascii_field it is what i wanted to do in the mythical msdos port [15:37]
mircea_popescu maybe not msdos, but i think cp/m would actually suffice for everything involved. [15:37]
ascii_field (msdos, as we know, won't eat a +2G fs - but doesn't give a damn what you say to the disk controller. so roll your own.) [15:37]
ascii_field the only thing that even needs an os in the usual sense is the threading [15:38]
ascii_field and not, as naive might suppose, the tcp/ip ! [15:38]
decimation you could make a dirtree [15:38]
ascii_field there are ~working~ tcp stacks for 'bare bios' [15:38]
ascii_field i have one here [15:38]
mircea_popescu in any case i regard the blkxxx scheme as a hare brained, buggy slow and stupid reimplementation of a filesystem in a kernel that's trying to be an app. [15:38]
ascii_field aha [15:38]
decimation I used one for 80806 [15:38]
decimation 8086 [15:38]
decimation called 'ka9q nos' [15:38]
decimation ran in dos [15:39]
jurov iirc there's vfat driver for ms-dos.. some 200k [15:39]
ascii_field fuck fat32 [15:39]
ascii_field it's how we got the blkxxxx turd in the 1st place [15:39]
ascii_field with its 2g blobs [15:39]
mircea_popescu ahaha wait [15:39]
mircea_popescu THAT is how 2gb got picked ? [15:39]
ascii_field how did you think [15:39]
decimation I do agree that converting blkxxx to dirtree would be an improvement [15:40]
* mircea_popescu reels at the realisation it never occured to him before [15:40]
* julmac has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [15:40]
mircea_popescu i dunno dude, how the fuck should i know how people who use magic numbers pick the magic numbers to use./ [15:40]
ascii_field because shitblowz [15:40]
* julmac (~harric@82.221.107.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:40]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is such a fucking insult. [15:40]
ascii_field sure is [15:40]
ascii_field i barf from it daily [15:40]
ascii_field every time i look at that thing. [15:40]
ascii_field my brain pulsates like it wants to blow chunks [15:41]
decimation oh, here's a c preprocessor macro to implement templates!! [15:41]
* decimation barfs [15:41]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182371 << honestly, i don't think he likes you. [15:42]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 03:51:18; midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Congratulations on making simple interaction so expensive. [15:42]
* ascii_field amused re: how that fella appears always at certain... occasions [15:42]
ascii_field to express a very particular pov [15:43]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182379 << different in what exact sense ? how is one wotless pleb different from another ? [15:43]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 04:03:57; asciilifeform: or different one. [15:43]
ascii_field muppet theatre has a box of masks, occasionally they rotate [15:44]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182385 << i lolled, but "6/10 decent trolling but article is obviously rambling and unconvincing," ?? [15:46]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 04:08:54; danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/616093901401686017 [15:46]
mircea_popescu what is this, defense by epithet ? [15:46]
mircea_popescu "i'm fat and should work out but the science involved in mean so 6/10" ? [15:46]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182390 << oh for crying out loud. [15:47]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 04:12:37; decimation: lolz http://blog.samaltman.com/energy < sam altman has a great new startup idea (YC certified): nuclear fusion [15:47]
mircea_popescu ascii_field i was promised rotation! WHAT IS THIS SCAM [15:48]
ascii_field l0l [15:48]
mircea_popescu will i live to be 90 and read all about "the very exciting technical development of 3d cinema", which apparently didn't fail convincingly enough the fiurst time jack warner trieds to beat television out of the amrket [15:48]
ascii_field muppeteer's hand sticky with spoodge, frog got glued on [15:48]
mircea_popescu and then "uber" and then "cold fusion [15:48]
mircea_popescu and then etc ? [15:48]
mircea_popescu it gets old. [15:48]
ascii_field in yr 2500 there will be folks selling 'forever live' pills [15:49]
ascii_field just as in year 500 [15:49]
ascii_field and -500 [15:49]
mircea_popescu fucking curse of an active intelligence : you don't, personalyl, get old. you just get to watch the entire world get very old very fast/ [15:49]
mircea_popescu eventually you feel old just for being involved. [15:50]
* ascii_field felt pretty old decade ago already [15:50]
mircea_popescu i'm sitting here in the 80s romania laughing at 3d glasses. for fucks sake - FROSI, the communist german's youth magazine, sent me some very sturdy cardboard 3d glasses in one edition. was like 86 iirc. [15:51]
ascii_field my father laughed at 3d glasses in 1960 [15:51]
ascii_field and his father in ww2 [15:51]
ascii_field (issued to artillerists, reading oddball experimental maps) [15:51]
trinque yeah, but now they're called hololens, and you'll have to take out a credit card to purchase [15:51]
ascii_field and i have it on good authority that folks in the age where 'sherlock holmes' is set also laughed [15:52]
mircea_popescu wtf srsly, teh internets doesn't know about frosi ? [15:52]
ascii_field 'google' now sells a cardboard frame one can stuff a pNohe into, as 3d glasses. [15:52]
ascii_field cheap tricks don't really change [15:53]
* ag3nt_zer0 (328f93cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.143.147.207) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:53]
mircea_popescu https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRÖSI ere we go. [15:55]
assbot FRÖSI – Wikipedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1ZHkl ) [15:55]
mircea_popescu http://www.ddr-comics.de/froesi/index/8507a.jpg << actually this might have been the exact edition. [15:56]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1ZUnH ) [15:56]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182397 << what the motherfucking shit is this. "our years of experience in something we've not done at all are to be combined in the following manner - if we jump one inch each day we'll have an olympic record before the year is out" [15:58]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 04:14:20; decimation: and http://www.helionenergy.com/ < "By combining our years of experience in fusion, newly available electronics technologies, and a revolutionary design using cutting-edge physics, Helion is making a fusion engine 1,000 times smaller, over 500 times cheaper, and realizable 10 time faster than other projects." [15:58]
mircea_popescu what in the actual shit. [15:58]
mircea_popescu i could be back in school, listening to retarded 11yos describing their sexual experience in flamboyantly wrong detail. [15:59]
trinque they've lived on a planet orbiting a massive fusion reaction; what more do you want? [15:59]
trinque mircea_popescu: "peed in her butt" [15:59]
* assbot gives voice to ag3nt_zer0 [15:59]
mircea_popescu i think my dinner had comparable fusion experience. [15:59]
mircea_popescu trinque no this was specifically that after summer vacation, guy told class agape this tall tale about the orgy he had going at his grandparent's rural house. [16:00]
mircea_popescu so then i asked him where's the little worm thing on the girl's snatch, upside or downside ? [16:00]
trinque lol [16:00]
mircea_popescu and the dude went like wtf am i on about, there's no such thing. [16:00]
trinque reminds me of a chick I remember in high school telling me that she had no idea her pussy had a hole in it until *way* later than a healthy human being should [16:01]
trinque like... early teens [16:01]
ascii_field 'on which end is the soldering iron hot' [16:01]
mircea_popescu "wut do you mean, i heard there's a little nubbin thing like a tip of a finger" "omfg get out of here 6/10 trolling" [16:01]
mircea_popescu then the recess was over an' i told the gals all about it. was a very lulzy week. [16:01]
trinque I guess this girl thought babies were shat... or something [16:02]
mircea_popescu it has happened... [16:02]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182404 << don't forget to 3d print it. [16:02]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 04:15:12; trinque: ah man, I'll be able to bolt one of these to my emdrive and colonize mars [16:02]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [16:02]
mircea_popescu !up ascii_field [16:02]
trinque ofc [16:02]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [16:02]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [16:02]
trinque and turn the trip to mars into a reality tv show [16:03]
mircea_popescu where you put a bunch of dumb teens in a room and nobody fucks anyone. [16:03]
mircea_popescu muy reality. [16:03]
ascii_field financed with kyc/aml compliant kickstartgogo [16:03]
mircea_popescu to quote sammy l, "that's no reality i ever heard of. they speak english in reality ?" [16:03]
* williamdunne (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/williamdunne) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:03]
ag3nt_zer0 trinque: hi there. were you able to read through that book? if so, what'd you think? [16:04]
trinque ag3nt_zer0: nah not finished yet; got distracted [16:05]
trinque but I'm sure I'll get to it [16:05]
ag3nt_zer0 cool [16:05]
mod6 <+ascii_field> i barf from it daily << lol [16:06]
mircea_popescu poor mod6 lol. [16:07]
mircea_popescu he knows. [16:07]
ag3nt_zer0 any hikers in here? just did 5 days backpacking in yosemite... unbelievable! - highly recommended [16:07]
* julmac has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:07]
trinque ag3nt_zer0: yeah, I do a bit of that around oregon [16:07]
mircea_popescu ag3nt_zer0 some p[eople in portland were gazing at the nude biker chiks [16:07]
trinque heh! [16:07]
* julmac (~harric@82.221.107.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:08]
trinque lets just make the tits-out thing year-round [16:08]
* WolfGoethe has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) [16:08]
mircea_popescu it frosts there neh ? [16:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129350 @ 0.00051728 = 66.9102 BTC [+] {2} [16:08]
mircea_popescu ANI is generally dependent on a warm climate and good central heating. [16:09]
mircea_popescu but outdoors... [16:09]
trinque sure, I'll accept inside-only [16:09]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182464 << got some magnolias etc, same feeling. [16:09]
* assbot gives voice to danielpbarron [16:09]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 04:31:56; cazalla: tfw buying a deciduous tree in the winter and feel like i bought a stick for $20 lol (Hovenia dulcis if anyone cares as much) [16:09]
trinque notable how happy everyone seems in town when everyone's ass-naked in the streets [16:10]
trinque portland wants to break from the repressed sexuality of america so bad [16:10]
* funkenstein (~josed@199.191.56.59) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:11]
* mius_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:12]
* funkenstein is now known as funkenstein_ [16:12]
* mius (~mius@unaffiliated/mius) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:12]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182516 << wut ? lol. [16:12]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 05:52:58; mats: driver insisted i sit in front, fist bump him, and talk the whole trip [16:12]
* assbot gives voice to funkenstein_ [16:12]
mats 'community ridesharing' [16:13]
mats we're supposed to be buds [16:13]
mircea_popescu what happened to pointing out to the driver he's to speak when spoken to. [16:13]
ascii_field i like 'uber' more [16:13]
ascii_field it simply took the money and ran [16:13]
mircea_popescu quoth the runner : ubermore! [16:13]
funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183410 <-- good work! Yosemite is amazing, I did some lines there years ago [16:13]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [16:13]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 19:03:09; ag3nt_zer0: any hikers in here? just did 5 days backpacking in yosemite... unbelievable! - highly recommended [16:13]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-06-2015#1166116 << see also [16:13]
assbot Logged on 17-06-2015 15:01:15; asciilifeform: whereby a bunch of folks pretend to be an uber 'cabbie' and 'pick up' customers [16:13]
mircea_popescu funkenstein_ you did cocaine off the mountain's asscrack ?! [16:14]
danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.juliatourianski_.3:70bc5de51fb224a5e85a3b7da3bba658b99a22fdacd4c178f51c1206c73b308d [16:14]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for juliatourianski_ from -2 to 3 with note: met at porcfest; a fantastic escort [16:14]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: you had asked what the hell is the sophia perennis anyway... well, a core and concise exposition of it can be found in more than a few works - here is one that stands at 134 pages and I would really love to hear some thoughts on it if you get a chance to sit down with it... if for no other reason than I struggle to find "holes" in it... http://tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_W [16:14]
mircea_popescu just how much was it [16:14]
assbot 404 - page not found ... ( http://bit.ly/1f234I3 ) [16:14]
funkenstein_ lol, definitely enough crack there to last a lifetime [16:14]
mircea_popescu i had ? [16:14]
mircea_popescu !s sophia perennis [16:14]
assbot 0 results for 'sophia perennis' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sophia+perennis [16:14]
mircea_popescu i don't think so ? [16:14]
* julmac has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:15]
ag3nt_zer0 maybe we were using the "perennial tradition" terms [16:15]
ag3nt_zer0 same thing [16:15]
funkenstein_ incidentally, one of the lines I did was called "the nose" [16:15]
* julmac (~harric@82.221.107.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:15]
mircea_popescu !s perennial tradition [16:16]
assbot 0 results for 'perennial tradition' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=perennial+tradition [16:16]
mircea_popescu suppose you actually link me ag3nt_zer0 ? [16:16]
ag3nt_zer0 I don't know how [16:16]
ag3nt_zer0 hold up [16:17]
mircea_popescu you ever read the log ? [16:17]
funkenstein_ was linked here a couple days ago, with full url :) [16:17]
mircea_popescu coupla monthgs ago i bought a couple of thin wooden sticks from an art store. impulse buy, i just happened to be next to them. [16:18]
mircea_popescu i've since used them as switches, and broke them on ass. the parts i collected and since just about right thickenss, sharpened them [16:18]
mircea_popescu and the shavings ? why, the shavings burn, creating this most pleasant wooden smoke atmosphere. [16:18]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=perennialism [16:18]
assbot 2 results for 'perennialism' - #bitcoin-assets search [16:18]
mircea_popescu best impulse buy ever. [16:18]
* Xuthus has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:19]
ascii_field right thickness ? [16:19]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-06-2015#1173212 << specifically ? [16:19]
assbot Logged on 23-06-2015 03:05:44; mircea_popescu: and wtf is "perennialism" even supposed to be, pico de la mirandolla and friends ? [16:19]
mircea_popescu ascii_field bout like a pencil [16:19]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: yes I read the log [16:19]
ascii_field like pencil, but cannot write ? [16:19]
ascii_field or what, mircea_popescu took up cuneiform ? [16:19]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: yes, specifically that [16:20]
* ascii_field used to own such a stick, for putting maths graffiti in wet cement [16:20]
mircea_popescu lol [16:20]
mircea_popescu ag3nt_zer0 and your offering is a 404 ? [16:20]
* funkenstein_ thinks ascii_field might know a thing or two about using switches [16:21]
mircea_popescu he always struckl me like more of a semaphore kind of guy [16:21]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182528 << me too. [16:21]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 05:58:05; ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i dream of a world where the insurance to drive your own ass around is prohibitive for all but the ultra-rich [16:21]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: hmmm... should be a pdf - http://tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_World.pdf [16:22]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LhkQDg ) [16:22]
mircea_popescu and what does mp say about pdfs with innerving regularity and peppered throughout teh logs ? [16:22]
ag3nt_zer0 oh [16:22]
ag3nt_zer0 sorry [16:22]
mircea_popescu anyway, yes, Rene Guenon, pico de la mirandola & friends. [16:23]
* WolfGoethe (~textual@65.209.61.114) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:25]
mircea_popescu the other side of the earlier fox : http://40.media.tumblr.com/34fcf7d7d8f39cd0ae9d488aa89d714e/tumblr_nh26kcSHGN1ti99ofo2_1280.jpg [16:26]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1T6W6zU ) [16:26]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: yeah, I know. I refuse to the signal the in-tribe, and that seems to be giving him a reason to think I'm some kind of plant with an agenda. If he accepted the truth I think he'd calm down quite a bit, although at this point he'd probably never believe it. [16:27]
mircea_popescu in the end what difference does it make. [16:27]
midnightmagic I just read more than I comment is all. [16:27]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-02-2015#1014374 << see also. [16:28]
assbot Logged on 10-02-2015 03:25:08; mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog" [16:28]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#999266 [16:29]
assbot Logged on 31-01-2015 02:02:19; midnightmagic: dude. seriously plotting or fomenting the physical murder of the USG is sedition, insurrection, and various related crimes and there's no fucking way I'm interested in being associated with it just because I'm lurking in here. [16:29]
mircea_popescu seems coherent enough. [16:30]
* joshbuddy has quit (Quit: joshbuddy) [16:30]
midnightmagic So? Opinion doesn't mean action; and it doesn't follow that I'd waste my time reporting, or even communicating with an inverted totalitarianist state, given the literal costs of doing so in terms of freedom and money. [16:31]
ag3nt_zer0 interesting - have never heard of Mirandola referred to as a core "traditionalist" writer - Guenon, Schuon, Evola, Burkhardt and others - but not Mirandola. From a nothing read I can see a similarity in their attempt to legitimize these modalities of thought but I read that his ideas were influential in renaissance humanism which guenon appears to be highly critical of... ? [16:31]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic you know not everyone you ever run into will like you. [16:32]
midnightmagic Yes, I know. [16:32]
mircea_popescu ag3nt_zer0 he's the original neoplatonician "ezoterist" or however you call this silly sort of romanticism that passes for "traditionalism" in postmodernism. [16:33]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [16:33]
mircea_popescu !up ascii_field [16:33]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [16:33]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [16:33]
ascii_field 153000+ [16:33]
* joshbuddy (~josh@wikimedia/Joshbuddy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:34]
mircea_popescu evola, recently mentioned here, very much in the same vein [16:34]
* ascii_field went once on an evola kick [16:34]
mircea_popescu he's certainly above the usual productions of his peninsula. [16:34]
ascii_field but it hardly gets deader than the thing that made him [16:35]
ascii_field there is none of it to be had now. [16:35]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: but you would consider evola "silly romanticism? [16:35]
mircea_popescu ag3nt_zer0 quite. you wouldn't ? [16:35]
ag3nt_zer0 no i guess not [16:35]
mircea_popescu i suppose the problem here is that to the children of today the women are grandmothers, but to they that rolled them on all their sides in the hay they'll stay about 20. [16:36]
mircea_popescu in which line, i was recently shocked to realise my mother's retiring. when i met the woman she was young! [16:36]
ascii_field l0l [16:36]
jurov deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201506.txt.asc [16:37]
scoopbot_revived F.MPIF June 2015 trading statement http://explo.yt/post/2015/07/01/F.MPIF-June-2015-trading-statement [16:37]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1T6XPVR ) [16:37]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [16:37]
jurov deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150701/attachment_e1cbe3cd7f4dececd2f4d5e8d619f57ca41ca69f.txt [16:37]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1T6XQt4 ) [16:37]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [16:37]
mircea_popescu this entire construction is pretty fuckin spiffy if i do so myself. [16:38]
* mircea_popescu looks around rather pleased [16:38]
* assbot gives voice to williamdunne [16:39]
williamdunne Our robot slaves treat us well [16:39]
funkenstein_ speaking of the vein of paranoia mentioned by midnightmagic, I would love some help to evaluate this comment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1105109.msg11765764#msg11765764 [16:40]
assbot Coin-Vote testers wanted ... ( http://bit.ly/1f27C13 ) [16:40]
* DreadKnight (~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:41]
ascii_field ^ translation: 'we wanna get rich off our crackpot altcoin plz' [16:41]
ascii_field ('cryptovote' is a vastly overworked and tiresome subject in maths academia, for 20+yrs now) [16:42]
williamdunne Pro democracy anarchist? Wut. [16:42]
mircea_popescu is this some sort of ploy to drum up interest for tardstalk forum ? [16:42]
funkenstein_ lol, sorry.. guy kinda scared with his "you are dumber than DPR" [16:45]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: but just becasue I do not consider it silly romanticism does not mean I could not be convinced if one were inclined to point out any inconsistencies in their thought... which is why I ask in this room... I suppose that if there were people able to help me peel back the layers a bit further, or demonstrate to me my own silly romantic tendencies that lead me to think most of this thought is "true", they migh [16:45]
ag3nt_zer0 again, I understand not having the time or patience as well... [16:45]
mircea_popescu !gettrust ag3nt_zer0 [16:45]
assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user ag3nt_zer0: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=ag3nt_zer0 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/ag3nt_zer0/ [16:45]
mircea_popescu why would it matter to me what you could or couldn't be ? [16:45]
ag3nt_zer0 it doesn't have to... it was out of respect that I asked [16:46]
mircea_popescu not the point, tho. the point is, you're approaching it backwards. [16:47]
ascii_field http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150701/pss_2f32fc9570f505a65c46b118c415cae70d57d757.png << in other news, one can infer that bitcoin permanently sits down on ~300 byte per block ingested [16:48]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxtuQd ) [16:48]
mircea_popescu padding! [16:51]
ascii_field indices [16:52]
ascii_field ought to move to a cached disk turd [16:52]
ascii_field then we're left with the 30MB footprint of the bugger itself + mempools [16:52]
* funkenstein_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:52]
ascii_field (+ said cache) [16:52]
ascii_field incidentally, blkxxxx oughta be an mmap [16:54]
ascii_field because we no longer are encumbered with winblowz [16:54]
* DreadKnight has quit (Quit: #AncientBeast - Master Your Beasts ( www.AncientBeast.com )) [16:57]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: might you offer a suggestion as to how to approach it in a more forward manner? [16:57]
ascii_field and, for anyone who has not yet read the article: precisely same footprint ~whether blocks are eaten one by one, or bitcoind merely started with the results thereof~ [16:59]
mircea_popescu alright. be specific, ask specific questions, construct syllogisms so that you can work tnd and the rest of the devices thought rests on... [16:59]
mircea_popescu ascii_field padding! [17:00]
ascii_field wut [17:00]
mircea_popescu the unverified suspicion is that this exists as overflow protection. [17:00]
ascii_field well we already knew that headers are stored forever in ram [17:03]
ascii_field but this accounts for what, 81 bt ? [17:03]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [17:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42150 @ 0.00051733 = 21.8055 BTC [+] [17:03]
* hanbot (~hanbot@unaffiliated/hanbot) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:06]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: thanks. what's tnd? [17:06]
* assbot gives voice to hanbot [17:06]
mircea_popescu tertium non datur. [17:06]
mircea_popescu along with reductio ad absurdum and friends, the infrastructure of all thought. [17:07]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [17:07]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [17:07]
ascii_field ^^^^ [17:07]
ag3nt_zer0 appreciate it [17:07]
jurov vagina non olet [17:08]
* ascii_field mentally blows dust off his unwritten magnum opus re: ternary computing, 'tertium datur' [17:08]
mircea_popescu vagina olet, pecunia non clam interfecisset. [17:08]
mircea_popescu ascii_field mere moving the gulp posts. "septimum non datur" or w/e [17:08]
ascii_field l0lz [17:09]
mircea_popescu the point is that unbounded lists are impermissible. [17:09]
ascii_field tell it to hilbert & co [17:09]
mircea_popescu i am. [17:09]
mircea_popescu (they're not impermissible in nature - merely in thinking. you gotta know what you're talking about) [17:09]
mircea_popescu otherwise, feel free to tell your compiler something like "so this program i wanna work on, right ? it has like a number of functions in it and stuff like that" [17:10]
ascii_field it remains possible to deal with infinities of certain kinds whilst knowing what one is talking about [17:10]
mircea_popescu i suppose this passes for "higher level language" in some circles. [17:10]
ascii_field it is called 'human compiler' [17:11]
mircea_popescu and it does what you mean! [17:11]
mircea_popescu or else... it's mean! [17:11]
ascii_field sorta like mold in bathtub does 'what you mean' [17:11]
mircea_popescu aha. [17:11]
ascii_field yes, you kinda put it there [17:11]
ascii_field but go and try signing your name with it [17:11]
mircea_popescu dude im sitting here cackling at my stupid latin wordplay wtf is wrong with me [17:12]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-06-2015#1179369 << see also. [17:13]
assbot Logged on 27-06-2015 21:50:42; jurov: https://lurkmore.to/Lingua_latina_non_penis_canina lmao [17:13]
mircea_popescu anyway. vagina smells and money never hurt clams. [17:14]
mircea_popescu cuz money IS clams [17:14]
mircea_popescu and so are vaginas [17:14]
danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.jwzguy.1:f446dc815dbbca084f820ec4495027452f793977737fde722e5409c9a99631e8 [17:14]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for jwzguy with note: met at porcfest [17:14]
williamdunne Not all vaginas smell, so at least there's that [17:15]
mircea_popescu yeah they do. [17:15]
danielpbarron noses smell; vaginas stink [17:15]
williamdunne Not all vaginas stink [17:15]
mircea_popescu that's for sure [17:16]
* diana_coman (~diana_com@unaffiliated/diana-coman/x-8319396) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:16]
williamdunne Ok, well there's the confusion. By smell I thought you meant carries an odour [17:16]
mircea_popescu that's what i meant. [17:17]
williamdunne Oh, well I'll have to disagree. More often than not, at least with my (limited) experience they smell no different to the rest of whomever it belongs to [17:18]
williamdunne Well, at least initially [17:18]
mircea_popescu it's a wonder then that dogs don't stick the truffle straight into the girl's elbow. [17:19]
mircea_popescu see ag3nt_zer0 ? syllogism! [17:19]
williamdunne I'll give you that one, then again they have a slight advantage over myself when it comes to detection of it [17:19]
ag3nt_zer0 yes, fucking brilliant! [17:21]
williamdunne b-a really helps with my vocabulary [17:22]
mircea_popescu you didn't know it was called a truffle ? [17:22]
williamdunne No, syllogism [17:25]
williamdunne And a perfect example was provided with it [17:27]
* CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-opfagbzkwlnvvlub) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:29]
mircea_popescu ah [17:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 46850 @ 0.0003432 = 16.0789 BTC [+] [17:33]
mats that was unexpected [17:35]
* ahmed_ is now known as UncleGoogle [17:36]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [17:38]
danielpbarron deedbot-, http://danielpbarron.com/blk.asc.txt [17:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ktvg3x ) [17:39]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [17:39]
cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182882 <<< it gets better lol http://qntra.net/2015/07/qntra-s-qntr-june-2015-statement/#comments [17:39]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 16:08:00; mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/06/pressure-in-the-united-states-mounts-to-ban-symbols-of-rebellion-against-federal-government/#comment-29482 << can't tell if serious... [17:39]
assbot Qntra (S.QNTR) June 2015 Statement | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ktvibw ) [17:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00051278 = 8.6147 BTC [-] [17:47]
scoopbot_revived Europol & Eurojust Take Down Cybercriminal Group http://qntra.net/2015/07/europol-eurojust-take-down-cybercriminal-group/ [17:49]
lobbes lol, qntra rabbit ain't giving in to federal pressure: http://qntra.net/qntra.jpg [17:50]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1dktinq ) [17:50]
* shovel_boss has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:52]
williamdunne Is there some back story to the Qntra rabbit? [17:52]
danielpbarron just like qntra, the rabbit is now a part of cazalla [17:52]
cazalla williamdunne, not really, if the rabbit mascot was still alive i'd have named him dixie [17:54]
mircea_popescu terrorabbit [17:54]
cazalla perhaps i'm still at that juvenile stage in my life where if someone tells me i can't have something (flag in this instance) i want it all the more [17:56]
mircea_popescu they need to confront their impotence [17:56]
mircea_popescu they need to confront it insistently and constantly. [17:57]
scoopbot_revived Malware Ring Participants Arrested http://qntra.net/2015/07/malware-ring-participants-arrested/ [17:58]
cazalla lol i put it up no less than 5 minutes ago BingoBoingo [17:58]
BingoBoingo Ah, dammit [17:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 152000 @ 0.00050558 = 76.8482 BTC [-] {3} [18:00]
* shinohai (2d3a236f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.45.58.35.111) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:02]
* wywialm has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:03]
* assbot gives voice to shinohai [18:06]
pete_dushenski cazalla: just noticed a typo there ... "cybercrimial" instead of "cybercriminal" in the opening sentence. fix plox :) [18:12]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: ^ [18:13]
cazalla pete_dushenski, fixed (i do read em before publishing but it's early :P ) [18:13]
* twizt (18bc4672@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.188.70.114) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:13]
pete_dushenski cazalla: lol cheers mate [18:13]
pete_dushenski o hey liking the new bunny header [18:14]
pete_dushenski that's some handy dandy photoshwappin' [18:14]
cazalla pete_dushenski, gimp and trademarks are not verbs dude http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressmaterials/pdfs/photoshop_guidelines_pr.pdf "For example: "The image was enhanced using Adobe® Photoshop® software." not . . . "The image was photoshopped." [18:20]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GOHwWe ) [18:20]
pete_dushenski eh fuck that. i make my own words. [18:21]
* danielpbarron gimped a confed flag into his twitter pic [18:21]
* pete_dushenski checks dpb twitter [18:21]
pete_dushenski lulz [18:21]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [18:22]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [18:22]
ascii_field achtung, panzers! [18:22]
ascii_field ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: [18:22]
ascii_field http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000113.html [18:22]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GOHIVi ) [18:22]
ascii_field 'Here is a 'blkcut' utility. Cuts or counts.' [18:22]
mircea_popescu haha [18:22]
mircea_popescu made your own dulap have you [18:22]
ascii_field schlllp. [18:22]
ascii_field aha [18:22]
mircea_popescu cazalla you knbow why they're pushing that right ? [18:23]
pete_dushenski danielpbarron: re: https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/614855224864448513 << is this the same rassah from the ol' 'mycelium knows how to make rng for their entropy dongle now but won't because it's hard and other reasons' ? [18:23]
ascii_field exercise for reader: [18:23]
ascii_field make it hash'em [18:23]
ascii_field instead of dumping [18:23]
shinohai So this is a separate utility? [18:23]
ascii_field yes [18:23]
ascii_field 1pager [18:23]
shinohai ^____________^ [18:23]
pete_dushenski obligatory : http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt/ [18:23]
assbot Proof That Mycelium Knows How To Make A Better RNG For Its Entropy Dongle. And Isn’t. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GOHQEr ) [18:23]
ascii_field nothing earth-shaking here [18:23]
ascii_field but afaik there was no simple, fast cutter [18:23]
cazalla mircea_popescu, i can't imagine why tbh, the word is as synonymous to search as is google [18:23]
ascii_field so here's one [18:23]
shinohai I hate webchat, my shell got klined [18:24]
ascii_field at any rate, you can call sha256sum on the resulting dir tree [18:25]
ascii_field and get hashes [18:25]
ascii_field mircea_popescu ^ [18:25]
mod6 ascii_field: re: blkcut, neat! [18:25]
ascii_field or anybody who gives a fuc [18:25]
mircea_popescu cazalla if it's ruled a genericized term they lose the trademark. [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40658 @ 0.00049896 = 20.2867 BTC [-] [18:26]
mircea_popescu hence "The image was enhanced using A®d®o®be® P®ho®tos®hop®" [18:26]
mircea_popescu they'd put a ® in the ® if somehow it were feasible. [18:26]
cazalla ah so really nothing more than token measure by legal derpartment to ensure they maintain the trademark? [18:26]
danielpbarron pete_dushenski, it's the same rassah that's in the WoT, so... probably the same guy? [18:27]
danielpbarron reminds me i should give him a +1 or something [18:27]
mircea_popescu more like pissing in the wind [18:27]
danielpbarron he was one of the less annoying people I met last week [18:28]
pete_dushenski !gettrust rassah [18:28]
mircea_popescu it doesn't matter what they say, if people use it as a generic term that's that. [18:28]
assbot Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user rassah: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=rassah | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/rassah/ [18:28]
ascii_field so, it is now possible to sync directly from a sliced-up blkxxxxx dir [18:29]
ascii_field and theoretically end up with SAME blkxxxxx dir that you ate [18:29]
ascii_field e.g., mircea_popescu's 'as it happened' bins [18:29]
ascii_field (if he decides to post'em) [18:29]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/07/europol-eurojust-take-down-cybercriminal-group/ << i don't get it, is this the same zeus that's been around for 10+ years ? [18:29]
assbot Europol & Eurojust Take Down Cybercriminal Group | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GOIguc ) [18:29]
mircea_popescu ascii_field kinda too lazy to figure out how you start a torrent, and how the fuck am i going to serve 50gb dishes to the public ? [18:30]
ascii_field the point, if anyone doesn't get it, is to hunt for nondeterminism ~anywhere~ in bitcoin [18:30]
ascii_field where it oughtn't to be [18:30]
shinohai You need a blockchain torrent? [18:30]
danielpbarron > While I was away from the computer when Rassah finally stopped derping about "escrowless" escrow and his 1,000 BTC Prius and got down to business, here's what transpired when he did. << lol I got to see that thing in person and hear the "story" behind it [18:31]
* twizt has quit (Quit: Page closed) [18:31]
ascii_field yeah it'd have to be a torrent [18:31]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron yeah, guy's been around forever, i recall his story about selling out at the top cca $13 [18:31]
danielpbarron basically was "at least I didn't lose the 1k in mt gox" [18:31]
shinohai making torrents is easy. Huge file, but doable [18:32]
danielpbarron there's a t-shirt: "Mt. Gox went bankrupt and all I got was this lousy Prius." [18:32]
ascii_field could also slice'em up with blkcut and serve as http! [18:32]
ascii_field whoever wants, can download with script as he needs them [18:33]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: same zues, yes. [18:35]
pete_dushenski zeus* [18:35]
shinohai how small can u make the files with blkcut ascii_field [18:35]
shinohai and do i have to reassemble ? [18:35]
ascii_field shinohai: eat one is entirely the size of the respective block [18:35]
ascii_field however large it was [18:35]
ascii_field this is elementary [18:35]
trinque it's really called europol and eurojust? [18:36]
mircea_popescu lol ok, good that they caught that zeus villain then [18:36]
mircea_popescu yeah. [18:36]
shinohai >.< [18:36]
ascii_field pete_dushenski: at one point observed that 9 out of 10 malware samples i got to reverse were zeus variants [18:36]
mircea_popescu euros have the most idiotic name shcemes. [18:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78644 @ 0.00051322 = 40.3617 BTC [+] {2} [18:36]
trinque grexit! [18:36]
trinque fucking moronic political neologisms [18:36]
ascii_field incidentally the src of zeus was leaked long ago [18:36]
ascii_field hence the variants [18:36]
trinque at least our turd politicians aren't even clever enough to make those [18:36]
scoopbot_revived MiniGame (S.MG), June 2015 Statement http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-june-2015-statement/ [18:36]
ascii_field nothing earth-shaking, just a complete trojan system for idiots [18:36]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: hades is in chains. [18:36]
pete_dushenski ascii_field: that's... a lot. [18:37]
danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.rassah.1:7d0963bfd9127d46031ea0f8bac168d9f8bb3a63d299918d83ce747fb96eb2f7 [18:37]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for rassah with note: met at porcfest [18:37]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183705 << bitcoin will reassemble [18:38]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 21:31:35; shinohai: and do i have to reassemble ? [18:38]
ascii_field that's sorta the whole point [18:38]
ascii_field load, feed into your eater [18:38]
ascii_field at the end of the day, your ~/.bitcoin and other fella's should be identical. [18:39]
ascii_field (save for debug.log) [18:39]
ascii_field the only reason to do this, other than pgp-hardened out of band syncs, is to make your bitcoind walk the same logic path as other fella's [18:40]
ascii_field (or your own from past) [18:40]
ascii_field to test. [18:40]
* ascii_field washes chopping block, picks up gavin feathers [18:41]
pete_dushenski lol time to make a headdress, chief. [18:42]
ascii_field when i've the whole set! [18:43]
pete_dushenski to be donned at the annual ceremony where we'll burn more of mp's woodchips, [18:43]
mircea_popescu stick shavings. [18:43]
pete_dushenski stick shavings then. [18:43]
danielpbarron the link to the file on my site is missing the 'h' from 'http' but i'm not sure i want to know what happens to my connection if that's corrected :/ [18:44]
pete_dushenski and chant the cultiest chant there ever was while nubile princesses dance around our circle [18:44]
mircea_popescu lol then i guess i leave it ? [18:45]
mircea_popescu nothing'll happen, you're hosting a text file. [18:46]
mircea_popescu problems mostly occur to idiots with a ton of js wrapped in who knows what [18:46]
* hanbot (~hanbot@unaffiliated/hanbot) has left #bitcoin-assets ("Leaving") [18:47]
lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Tim Fiedler ; ) || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Tim Fiedler ; ) [18:47]
trinque another .de [18:48]
ascii_field apple corp. [18:49]
trinque and I think he was already in the list with another key [18:49]
ascii_field aha [18:49]
trinque several! [18:49]
trinque cool [18:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67857 @ 0.00049872 = 33.8416 BTC [-] {3} [18:50]
ascii_field http://cryptome.org/2015/07/nsa-xks-more-intercept-15-0701.7z << mega-l0l [18:51]
ascii_field 'xkeyscore' manual set, apparently [18:51]
ascii_field ~650MB ! [18:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68700 @ 0.00051695 = 35.5145 BTC [+] {3} [18:51]
mircea_popescu does this qualify as valuable secret in your grille ? [18:51]
ascii_field so far dying of boredom [18:51]
ascii_field wake me up when the real nsa leaks [18:52]
ascii_field the one with hot chix [18:52]
mircea_popescu you gotta jiggle her g spot for leaks. [18:52]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [18:52]
* Phraust (~Phraust@unaffiliated/phraust) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:56]
* Phraust has quit (Client Quit) [18:57]
scoopbot_revived UK Gambling Commission Strongarms Some Bitcoin Based Gambling Websites http://qntra.net/2015/07/uk-gambling-commission-strongarms-some-bitcoin-based-gambling-websites/ [18:59]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [18:59]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [18:59]
ascii_field '(TS//SI//NF) BLARNEY Team assists S2C52 analysts in implementing Xkeyscore fingerprints that yield access to U.N. Secretary General talking points prior to meeting with POTUS.' [18:59]
ascii_field pathetic. [18:59]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183764 << when do we get to hear from the saudi pr0n commission? [19:00]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 21:54:56; scoopbot_revived: UK Gambling Commission Strongarms Some Bitcoin Based Gambling Websites http://qntra.net/2015/07/uk-gambling-commission-strongarms-some-bitcoin-based-gambling-websites/ [19:00]
mats https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-07/msg00073.html [19:02]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1H0TmP8 ) [19:02]
pete_dushenski cazalla: 'believed to have acquiesced' based on what ? and 'shut down' link is swapped with its archive [19:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36250 @ 0.00049456 = 17.9278 BTC [-] {3} [19:03]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: 194000+ [19:05]
* ascii_field has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:05]
cazalla pete_dushenski, fixed and added source [19:06]
pete_dushenski aha nice. [19:07]
* diana_coman has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:07]
pete_dushenski kakobrekla: did you ever receive a notification from the uk gambling commision ? or did they snub you like those chartmakerz [19:08]
* kakobrekla checks mail [19:09]
kakobrekla nothing here [19:09]
pete_dushenski snubbed again. [19:09]
mats if you've been meaning to get a pogo for a node, haven't for whatever reason, are L1/L2, ill send you some btc with honorable condition you purchase and set one up [19:10]
pete_dushenski bitbet and therealbitcoin : blocked out from the land or swarming, smarming idiocy, much to everyone's benefit, since forever [19:10]
mats append a btc addr in channel to my nick to redeem [19:11]
pete_dushenski mats: orly ? [19:12]
mats ya rly [19:12]
* gares_ (~gares@unaffiliated/gares) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:12]
pete_dushenski what's 'some btc' ? [19:12]
pete_dushenski !up gares_ [19:13]
* assbot gives voice to gares_ [19:13]
pete_dushenski you can talk now, gares_ [19:13]
mats 0.1 [19:13]
pete_dushenski damn ! that's titty money ! [19:14]
mats should cover cost of purchase and s&h [19:14]
pete_dushenski ...not quite. [19:14]
pete_dushenski but a nice incentive nonetheless [19:14]
* gares__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:15]
danielpbarron mats, what can I do to make my currently running pogo useful to you? [19:15]
mats keep on doing whatever you're doing [19:18]
* devthedev has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:32]
* joecool has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [19:32]
shinohai my original node is stable [19:34]
mircea_popescu i like mats' attitude. [19:40]
* assbot removes voice from gares_ [19:43]
* ValentinJesse (~ubuntu@5-13-157-168.residential.rdsnet.ro) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:43]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182561 << mmmyeah. [19:43]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 06:10:14; mats: like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry [19:43]
mircea_popescu !up ValentinJesse [19:43]
-assbot- You voiced ValentinJesse for 30 minutes. [19:43]
* assbot gives voice to ValentinJesse [19:43]
mircea_popescu but common sense won't apply because... they'll revolutionize! [19:44]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182647 << i can see what you're saying, but im starting to suspect rolling release is the only way to do mmorpgs. [19:48]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 08:21:20; *: BingoBoingo hates both Github and "rolling release" [19:48]
mircea_popescu now, why adult software shouldn't be run on a kiddy paradigm is a different story [19:48]
mircea_popescu but for games it's great. [19:48]
cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183595 <<< lucky man then.. my first still to this day is the worst (although might be on account it was my first and as such has become an acquired taste/smell, who knows) [19:49]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 20:14:14; williamdunne: Oh, well I'll have to disagree. More often than not, at least with my (limited) experience they smell no different to the rest of whomever it belongs to [19:49]
jurov ;;ticker [19:49]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.46, Best ask: 258.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 258.5, 24 hour volume: 22920.54081272, 24 hour low: 252.77, 24 hour high: 265.37, 24 hour vwap: None [19:49]
williamdunne cazalla: yeah, last night if you'd stuck it in my face with a blindfold on I wouldn't have been able to tell you I had a vagina before me [19:50]
jurov ^ thx bitstamp :D [19:50]
mircea_popescu babyface can't tell ? [19:50]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182690 << lol ok [19:52]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 10:31:57; cazalla: hmm, got a new warning http://i.imgur.com/66dgj00.png [19:52]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182720 << disk prolly skipped. [19:53]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 12:07:42; asciilifeform: not sure what to blame other than ram fault (experiment was taking place on a portable with non-ecc ram) [19:53]
* mircea_popescu pictures alf car with pathe system. [19:53]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: It was immaculate [19:54]
mircea_popescu hopefully she doesn't conceive on you now. [19:54]
williamdunne That'd be pretty impressive, to be honest [19:54]
mircea_popescu https://github.com/TazeTSchnitzel < top kek [19:56]
assbot TazeTSchnitzel (Andrea Faulds) · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1R5MVSO ) [19:56]
mircea_popescu https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/437#issuecomment-117390699 << i mean [19:56]
assbot timeX.google.com provide non standard time · Issue #437 · systemd/systemd · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1R5MUyh ) [19:56]
mircea_popescu "I don't think that CoreOS registering systemd.pool.ntp.org is the best move. as to me it sounds like @poettering simply doesn't want any end-users to view systemd as some sort of a product providing its own services and, (at least in the minds of some users), being assigned the responsibility for those services or start treating systemd as a separate product, instead of it being an integral part of the distribution [19:57]
mircea_popescu you're using." [19:57]
mircea_popescu ahem [19:57]
mircea_popescu "our goal all along was to avoid responsibility for all the stupid shit we're doing. there's not much fun in stealing if one doesn't steal the having been stolen from at the same time!" [19:57]
trinque this internet thing is a trip; cultures can go to complete shit faster than ever before [19:58]
mircea_popescu in fairness systemd was born sort-of like reddit was born : collecting all the scum frothing at the periphery of a culture. [19:59]
trinque yeah, bunch of outcasts finally having their day [19:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html << this is lovely shit. [19:59]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1R5NrAc ) [19:59]
trinque heh it occurs to me that the USA is sort of that [19:59]
mircea_popescu started off as the exact inverse of that. [20:00]
trinque yeah, the better folks taking their fun elsewhere [20:00]
trinque but not recently [20:00]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182755 << i think he's right ftr. [20:01]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 14:40:44; jurov: such "multimedia" stuff is better to publish on blog [20:01]
shinohai 37 GB bootstrap.dat xD [20:04]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform note how smoothly the man switched from "we've always said bitcoin has to have larger blocks" to "we;ve always said bitcoin is using up too much electricity" in midsentence! [20:05]
mircea_popescu i wish fighting the commies ever were as much fun as fighting these congenital retards is. [20:06]
jurov do you plan to kep it compatible with phoundation bootstrap.dat? [20:07]
jurov *keep [20:07]
shinohai i dunno, i just made one from 0.5.3 for the hell of it [20:07]
jurov did you compare it with their one? [20:08]
mircea_popescu shinohai what's in it ? [20:08]
mircea_popescu jurov you know i don't think i ever played uo... [20:08]
mircea_popescu does that make me a bad rpg person ? [20:08]
jurov if not compatible, i'd suggest to xz-compress it (xz is easily appendable, i have tried it in practice) [20:08]
jurov heh i did neither. only wanted to [20:09]
shinohai I always just cat the blkxxxx.dat's > bootstrap.dat [20:09]
jurov when later i got my hands on perma connection, UO's star faded or whatever [20:10]
* assbot removes voice from ValentinJesse [20:13]
* Phraust (~Phraust@unaffiliated/phraust) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:14]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183832 << pretty basic. figured - ~somebody~ has to do that chore [20:19]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 22:55:38; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html << this is lovely shit. [20:19]
asciilifeform but now other folks are invited to repeat the experiment [20:19]
asciilifeform next one (after i finish my broadcast..) will involve igprof per-function (yes) snapshots / block [20:21]
mircea_popescu cool beans/ [20:21]
asciilifeform the 30M baseline is jaw-dropping imho [20:22]
asciilifeform i mean, wtf [20:22]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183841 << eh, the 'too many joules' crowd has been going for ~2y+ now [20:22]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 23:01:44; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note how smoothly the man switched from "we've always said bitcoin has to have larger blocks" to "we;ve always said bitcoin is using up too much electricity" in midsentence! [20:22]
asciilifeform just on the envirowhiner-left side [20:23]
asciilifeform (somehow al gore's jet is not counted as waste of joules, no) [20:23]
asciilifeform student exercise: calculate joules/sec of herr gore's jet, and translate into gigahash [20:24]
scoopbot_revived Jerry Seinfeld's Guide For Aspiring Stand-Up Comedians. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/01/jerry-seinfelds-guide-for-aspiring-stand-up-comedians/ [20:24]
mircea_popescu "1. be as bland as possible ; 2. find an insecure fuckwit to leech off ; 3. get lucky" [20:24]
* shinohai is now known as shinohai` [20:24]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183843 << i don't recall what was in this [20:25]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 23:03:08; jurov: do you plan to kep it compatible with phoundation bootstrap.dat? [20:25]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: bah, ya cynic. [20:25]
jurov they say it's just <4-byte pchMessageStart><32-bit length> [20:25]
mircea_popescu hehehe [20:26]
asciilifeform same as blkxxxx then ? [20:26]
asciilifeform ^ try cutting one of them with http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000113.html [20:26]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVJXd3 ) [20:26]
asciilifeform if cuts, then same format ! [20:27]
pete_dushenski lol well, with two articles published today, ima sign off for the eve. a river cruise and fireworks await. cheers ! [20:27]
mircea_popescu whereas i am going to go play my game [20:27]
mircea_popescu except i mean that literally. [20:27]
* pete_dushenski has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:27]
* asciilifeform off to eat caek [20:27]
* Phraust has quit (Quit: Phraust) [20:29]
trinque http://www.ft.com/fastft/353721/worker-killed-volkswagen-robot-accident << "VW said the robot had not suffered a technical defect." << LOL! [20:41]
assbot Worker killed in Volkswagen robot accident - fastFT: Market-moving news and views, 24 hours a day - FT.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVLaRo ) [20:41]
trinque gonna need security cam footage of this [20:41]
williamdunne trinque: The guy walked into the security enclosure while the machine was operating [20:51]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183815 << mno. that thing has an almost-new 1tb 'samsung' ssd, half-full [20:51]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 22:49:39; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182720 << disk prolly skipped. [20:51]
trinque williamdunne: yeah, I'm just amused as shit at the thought of some german guy shouting "EVERYSING IS VURKING ACCORDINK TO SPECIFICATION!" [20:51]
trinque ZEE NORDIK SYSTEM IS VURKINK! [20:52]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183884 << how many fall into woodchipper every day of the week [20:52]
assbot Logged on 01-07-2015 23:46:56; williamdunne: trinque: The guy walked into the security enclosure while the machine was operating [20:52]
asciilifeform but when 'robot!111!!!1!11' suddenly - news. [20:52]
williamdunne Exactly [20:52]
williamdunne trinque: Das ist gut, ya? [20:52]
* asciilifeform fwiw, when worked with robot, had all the 'safety' interlocks disabled. they make it damn-near impossible to get real work done [20:53]
asciilifeform (it was a stationary laboratory robot, ~2x1x1 metres. so all that was at stake was an odd hand or two) [20:54]
williamdunne I could put up with losing my legs, but I would be fucked if I lost my hands [20:55]
asciilifeform so don't lose'em [20:55]
asciilifeform at any rate, more folks lose hands from ordinary qwerty than from any robot [20:56]
asciilifeform pc keyboard, esp. the piece of shit most folks use, is a veritable 'dulap' for hands, yes [20:56]
mats type with your feet! [20:57]
asciilifeform with cock if you like [20:58]
asciilifeform (or physicist s. hawking's rumoured arse joystick!) [20:59]
mats how would that work? morse code? [21:00]
asciilifeform ask'im [21:02]
williamdunne I think its up-down [21:03]
williamdunne So top half of alphabet [21:03]
williamdunne Bottom half [21:03]
williamdunne And keeps refining [21:03]
williamdunne But could be wrong [21:03]
asciilifeform or plain old morse [21:04]
asciilifeform lesson: design your arsestick ~before~ you need it! [21:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 241450 @ 0.00048227 = 116.4441 BTC [-] {5} [21:04]
williamdunne Oh, its actually more simplistic than that [21:06]
williamdunne http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-computer.html [21:06]
assbot The Computer - Stephen Hawking ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVNzeX ) [21:06]
asciilifeform l0l, 'eudora' still exists!? [21:07]
* asciilifeform remembers it from his first commercial isp account [21:07]
asciilifeform win 3.1 [21:07]
* WolfGoethe has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) [21:15]
asciilifeform https://www.kernel.org/doc/gorman/html/understand/understand006.html << for anyone struggling to make sense of http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html [21:16]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVORGQ ) [21:16]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVORGU ) [21:16]
asciilifeform https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt << see also. [21:17]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVOUlS ) [21:17]
phf asciilifeform: i did blockdump on 0..217336 and all the checksums come out to what's in sums.txt.gz. i'm going to eatblock them with a fresh datadir [21:19]
asciilifeform phf: what kind of node was it ? [21:19]
asciilifeform and when/where synced [21:19]
lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Stephan Urbach ; Herr Urbach ; ) || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=425201762403 (Stephan Urbach ; Herr Urbach ; ) [21:21]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KtLppx ) [21:21]
phf all patches except reward overflow, cuminer snip and igprof, up to eatblock. mac os 10.8, built dynamically with llvm's c and cmake. synced about 5 days ago [21:21]
asciilifeform neat [21:21]
asciilifeform bonus points for testing on heathen compilers [21:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.15160515 = 1.6677 BTC [-] {3} [21:25]
cazalla http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/01/twitter-staff-african-american-diversity [21:46]
assbot Twitter employs only 49 African Americans despite diversity pledges | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1KtMXQB ) [21:46]
* CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [21:46]
williamdunne Why on earth anyone thinks hiring people for the sake of diversity is a good idea, I will never know [21:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77775 @ 0.00049062 = 38.158 BTC [+] {2} [21:57]
* WolfGoethe (~textual@cpe-68-173-92-8.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:02]
* Phraust (~Phraust@unaffiliated/phraust) has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:05]
* funkenstein (~josed@199.191.56.59) has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:10]
* funkenstein is now known as funkenstein_ [22:10]
* assbot gives voice to funkenstein_ [22:11]
funkenstein_ williamdunne, how do you pick girlfriends then? [22:12]
williamdunne I haven't had many, so I can't give a good answer. [22:12]
williamdunne But I don't have a quota of minorities to fill [22:13]
funkenstein_ not defending twitter mind you, your point still stands [22:13]
punkman does funkenstein_'s sex life have diversity quotas? [22:13]
funkenstein_ variety is the spice of life [22:13]
punkman you ever try slodging? [22:14]
williamdunne ;;ud slodging [22:14]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slodging | Slodging. Lodging yourself between inanimate objects and waiting for others to dislodge you. Usually done for sexual pleasure. "Wow, Slodging ourselves into ... [22:14]
williamdunne What the fuck [22:14]
williamdunne Aha [22:14]
punkman http://oglaf.com/slodging/ [22:14]
assbot Slodging ... ( http://bit.ly/1H1pDpj ) [22:14]
punkman (has next page) [22:15]
* copumpkin (~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin) has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:15]
funkenstein_ like that 127 hours guy? [22:16]
williamdunne Yeah, but you get to fuck the rock [22:16]
funkenstein_ i'm just going to pretend it's supersymmetric lodging and move on [22:17]
williamdunne Yesterday was the most entertaining time I've had in a while [22:20]
williamdunne Had a couple of boxing matches [22:20]
punkman did ya kick anyone's ass? [22:24]
williamdunne Yeah, two peoples [22:24]
williamdunne Well [22:24]
williamdunne They forfeited [22:24]
williamdunne One split their nose, the other got a nosebleed and a semi-bad black eye [22:25]
punkman http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/06/30/ultima-online-retrospective/ [22:26]
assbot 18 Years Later, Why Are People Still Playing Ultima Online? | Rock, Paper, Shotgun ... ( http://bit.ly/1C0jLNS ) [22:26]
punkman "Netflix, Spotify and other streaming services just got more expensive in Chicago as an update to the city’s amusement tax went into effect Wednesday. The change adds a 9 percent tax to Chicago residents’ subscriptions." [22:29]
williamdunne "Amusement Tax", mmmmK [22:30]
punkman it does amuse [22:30]
williamdunne I'm quite curious about how on earth that works as far as jurisdiction goes [22:33]
williamdunne How can Chicago enforce a tax law on a company not based in Chicago? [22:33]
punkman or EU wanting non-EU companies paying VAT [22:33]
williamdunne That one too [22:34]
williamdunne Or the more recent ruling on EU VAT where its billed at the customer country [22:34]
williamdunne Rather than the operator [22:34]
williamdunne So you've got to pay VAT to 20+ agencies IIRC [22:34]
punkman nah supposedly you'll be paying at one and they'll split it up [22:35]
williamdunne Oh, thats a little better but still retarded [22:37]
* WolfGoethe has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) [22:51]
* williamdunne has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:54]
* contrapumpkin (~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin) has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:56]
* williamdunne (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/williamdunne) has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:58]
* copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [22:59]
* assbot gives voice to williamdunne [23:00]
* WolfGoethe (~textual@cpe-68-173-92-8.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:04]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 211814+ [23:07]
asciilifeform punkman: considerably more interesting, imho, from same site: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/06/26/the-flare-path-computer-ambush [23:15]
assbot The Flare Path: Is Computer Ambushed | Rock, Paper, Shotgun ... ( http://bit.ly/1HyoOru ) [23:15]
asciilifeform reminds me of an only slightly later-in-the-'80s game i enjoyed as a boy on ru pc xt clone - 'ranger' [23:16]
asciilifeform i bet mircea_popescu played 'ranger'. [23:16]
asciilifeform https://archive.org/stream/computer_ambush/computer_ambush_djvu.txt << manual to 'ambush' [23:19]
assbot Full text of "Apple Manual: computer ambush" ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ny6IUW ) [23:19]
* funkenstein_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [23:20]
asciilifeform https://archive.org/stream/computer_ambush#page/n14/mode/1up << gotta love the 'biographies' [23:23]
assbot Apple Manual: computer ambush ... ( http://bit.ly/1HypSvo ) [23:23]
punkman never played that one, but kinda reminds me of Cannon Fodder [23:29]
mats http://www.vox.com/2015/6/29/8845913/russia-war [23:30]
assbot How World War III became possible: A nuclear conflict with Russia is likelier than you think - Vox ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ny7xNo ) [23:30]
mats passably decent analysis overall, although the journalist is quite wrong about ru military inferiority and nato military superiority [23:30]
* joshbuddy_ (~josh@wikimedia/Joshbuddy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:35]
* joshbuddy has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:36]
* joshbuddy_ is now known as joshbuddy [23:36]
asciilifeform mats: as nato reich continues its path down the drainpipe to join the earlier reichs, various folks' temptation to find out 'if the nukes still work [23:37]
asciilifeform will only increase [23:37]
* funkenstein_ (~josed@64.223.218.67) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:37]
* funkenstein_ is now known as Guest87791 [23:38]
mats i think its inevitable for tactical nukes to be fielded [23:38]
* WolfGoethe has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) [23:43]
* hanbot (~hanbot@unaffiliated/hanbot) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:49]
* assbot gives voice to hanbot [23:50]
* williamdunne has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [23:57]
Category: Logs
Comments feed : RSS 2.0. Leave your own comment below, or send a trackback.
Add your cents! »
    If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed.