Forum logs for 30 Sep 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

trinque	Russia seems to be demonstrating to the Middle East that it is cooler head among the external powers.	[00:01]
trinque	*the cooler head	[00:02]
trinque	it will be a fascinating thing if the US attempt to align the Middle East with itself - via some naive "we'll make them all South Korea and Japan!" notion - results in alignment with Russia, and even more amusing if the thing actually results in some semblance of "peace in the Middle East" down the road	[00:09]
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mike_c	I think rubio is warming up for the next one.	[00:19]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: He prolly is. Wants to resurrect the McCain/Romney train since Santorum had to be skipped.	[00:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00068286 = 12.4963 BTC [-] {3}	[00:33]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: The republican nominee field this year is awfully noisy. Rand is falling into his father's pattern, Lizards love Fiorina, and Trump is just a protest vote.	[00:34]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i imagine those people will put more into advertising it than davout ever did, and so will take over.	[00:42]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: For a portion of the market, but like many other things at some point they will probably die suddenly	[00:43]
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mircea_popescu	but in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/88592d7877ee342801c347b98a0d2038/tumblr_nq3hgfT7gY1s9e2ofo1_1290.jpg	[00:58]
assbot	404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBt6sB )	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	oops	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	but in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/88592d7877ee342801c347b98a0d2038/tumblr_nq3hgfT7gY1s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg	[00:58]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1JBt8AG )	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287784 << right, for people who want to invest in eur without actually holding any >D	[00:59]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 19:24:01; jurov: x.eur is for people who start with btc	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287799 << yeah, on the grounds of having been built for reasonably well off / middle class people in the... 1920s.	[01:02]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 19:32:23; ascii_field: tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	whatch five fucking minutes from the beginning "Band wagon" with fred astaire to get a fucking idea of what life in america still was, in the 50s.	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	hint : dude travels ON THE TRAIN with a pile of luggage. he tells the porter to take it all and put it in a cab and send it at so and so hotel. because he's a dude in the suit traveling solo and can't be bothered to lift anything heavier than his hat	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	and the entire society is organised around this notion.	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	today fucking airlines can't as much as not forever lose your bags, let alone SEND PEOPLE TO PICK THEM UP FROM YOUR FUCKING CAB!!!!	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	(except in turkey, where they do, and for this reason alone the united states should be a subject state of istanbul!)	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	fucking bullshit world where i have to have valet slavegirls because everyone in it is an imbecile.	[01:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18370 @ 0.00068223 = 12.5326 BTC [-]	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287810 << ahahah. also as to the praxis, "Superfluous redundancy" :D	[01:09]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 19:34:09; phf: жидобольшевик? seems like saying the same thing twice	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287814 << not true, greeks invented that one.	[01:11]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 19:37:55; jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	red indian tribes in new england might have had it independently, but unfortunately the society was woman-centric and so it tripped all over itself and died before we could give a shit.	[01:12]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287823 << you know it was just b-a of the 1800s.	[01:16]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 19:43:58; phf: ^ i think it's such an exquisite stab at freemasonry. a brief fictional exchange reveals the absurdity of the entire "pretense"	[01:16]
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mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW5n64zFO-Q << lolz. compare and contrast with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu277VhDdW4	[01:19]
assbot	"RIDING the GOAT" Very strange Fraternal Lodge Initiation, 1928. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmarwS )	[01:19]
assbot	Sexiest Mechanical Bull Ride - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmarwU )	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	easily a paragon of womanhood. above any big tits, hips, legs, blabla.	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	can do that, is a woman. can't do that, has shit to learn yet.	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	her fucking ankles aren't even touching. thighs an' that's it.	[01:21]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[01:32]
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gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 237.14, vol: 17191.29334113 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 236.295, vol: 6093.89029 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 238.7, vol: 8365.56644987 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 260.0, vol: 1.91594316 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 242.242, vol: 26981.18780000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 236.136, vol: 68.22471848 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 241.93748, vol: 47.59175733 \| Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)	[01:32]
BingoBoingo	;;more	[01:32]
gribble	239.621079249	[01:32]
mircea_popescu	But, somehow, when we mention it, he wears a look so grim we wonder if he rode the goat ---- or if the goat rode him!	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha that's alright.	[01:34]
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BingoBoingo	It isn't called "horny goat weed" for nothing	[01:35]
mircea_popescu	manifestly.	[01:35]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287842 << of some interest would perhaps be what you yourself mean when you say "von neuman architecture".	[01:37]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 20:04:37; thestringpuller: ascii_field: could the sane computer be of von neuman architecture? or does that even matter?	[01:37]
mircea_popescu	and no, i'm not asking what alf means. i know what he means.	[01:37]
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mircea_popescu	also asciilifeform might enjoy http://uncouthreflections.com/2015/09/28/the-real-problem-of-sexual-assault-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-32725 discussion	[01:42]
assbot	The Real Problem of Sexual Assault on Campus? \| Uncouth Reflections ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmbAob )	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287873 << they can't, just, idiots put up with it.	[01:43]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 20:14:50; ascii_field: where they seal up restaurants with people trapped inside, stop cars at gunpoint for hours, BECAUSE THEY CAN	[01:43]
mircea_popescu	and yes they should rub it in. more every day, that's the only way the worms will get the point.	[01:44]
mircea_popescu	this, incidentally, is the one thing the usg does right.	[01:44]
mircea_popescu	the only just desserts of a castrated population is the humiliation ratchet.	[01:44]
mircea_popescu	when boys start listening to their moms and acting with "common decency", the one thing they get is their asshole fucked like it were a pussy.	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	because in fact it is.	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287879 << see, the subtle differences make the difference. no, that's not what i say.	[01:48]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 20:16:54; ascii_field: and since mircea_popescu appears to be sleeping, i will have to fill in for him and say 'this is what usians get for not being pashtuns!' aha.	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	"usian" isn't a thing to be.	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	not anymore than fat acceptance is a thing to do.	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287899 << dude this is like the "oh show me a rothschild" nonsense.	[01:50]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 20:23:15; ascii_field: thestringpuller: notice that ~exclusively~ local/municipal police are ever killed. as to why: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	everyone in usg gets killed all the fucking time	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	scarcely 50 years have passed since the last executed president.	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	nobody is immune.	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	they know this themselves.	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	and here you come with bizarro world fantasies.	[01:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 273 @ 0.00466302 = 1.273 BTC [+] {4}	[02:52]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3254318/American-woman-s-bizarre-Vegemite-racist-YouTube-rant.html	[03:23]
assbot	US woman posts #banvegemite rant online because she thinks the spread is racist \| Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1jx8pZX )	[03:23]
BingoBoingo	‘Ever since the 1950s-or whatever-vegemite has been a way to symbolically make white Australians feel superior to Aboriginals by literally eating their f*****g skin in a jar.’	[03:24]
cazalla	hate to admit it, but there is little more i enjoy that butter soaked bread with an inch thick spread of vegemite	[03:29]
cazalla	than*	[03:29]
cazalla	shit BingoBoingo that video is from July https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDAOodylljM	[03:30]
assbot	Eating Vegemite is racist towards Aboriginals - because it is black - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1jx9kcK )	[03:30]
BingoBoingo	Isn't vegemite just failed beer?	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	you can't eat foods that have a color now ?	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	tofu is fucking white.	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	in other news, the female herding behaviour. (the practitioners refer it as "protecting", because totally, there's so much that wrinkly ass can protect from and so very much protection teh young slut needs.) http://41.media.tumblr.com/1fae76d2e368184cb8f67fd935a7190d/tumblr_nq3h28JcX41s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg	[03:32]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1JBG3CF )	[03:32]
cazalla	s'gotta be a troll	[03:32]
punkman	the mech-bull is a stand-in for a sybian right?	[03:35]
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mircea_popescu	notrly.	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	but, to quote older material, http://trilema.com/2011/erotoghid-pentru-femeia-adulta/#selection-41.381-41.509	[03:43]
assbot	Erotoghid pentru femeia adulta on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxb0Dg )	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	"a woman that can not use her own body to extemporaneously exemplify grace has scant changes to sexual fulfillment".	[03:44]
punkman	chick was pretty good, most derps on youtube try to hold on using only their hands	[03:44]
mircea_popescu	yup.	[03:44]
mircea_popescu	the reason she's so good is because she puts no work into it whatsoever. just absorbs the bull with minimal friction.	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	this happens to be a perfectly fine (if negative) definition of gracefulness, and thus a fine way to measure it.	[03:45]
punkman	plenty of friction between bull and vulva	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	notrly.	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	(the reason the thigh gap exists, anatomically, is exactly to provide insulation from work friction as seen there. her cunt's in the air throughout)	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	also the mechanical bull is specifically designed to defeat men, which is to say, humans who use force to compensate for a lack of gracefulness.	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	the thing with using force is that your muscles are dual controlled, there's a fine and a gross motor innervation.	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	(whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control)	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	and as the rider becomes unable to exercise fine control, he becomes unable to maintain balance.	[03:51]
mircea_popescu	as errors compound.	[03:51]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3008 << "The cops do not want you to die—as that brings major heat. They just want to shoot you so that they can feel better about not winning any fights back in high school. Dude, your hoodrat carcass is a pain in the ass to everyone, except for your mamma, who just won the "hatched a got-shot hoodrat" lottery, and will be cashing in on your dumbass."	[03:55]
assbot	JL: The Ghetto at A Glance ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBIlBT )	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	it's not clear that an injured and disabled hoodrat is better.	[03:57]
BingoBoingo	At the present it is. As the Insurance to pay injured and disabled hoodrats bezzel depletes...	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	somewhat unrelatedly,	[03:59]
mircea_popescu	"On 23 August 1927, Sacco and Vanzetti were executed; in response, a 24-hour general strike was proclaimed in Buenos Aires, as well as many other capitals of the world. Several days after the executions, Di Giovanni received a letter from Sacco's widow, which thanked him for his work, and informing him that the director of the tobacco firm Combinados had proposed her a contract to produce a cigarette brand named "Sacco	[03:59]
mircea_popescu	& Vanzetti". On 26 November 1927, Di Giovanni and his comrades duly bombed Bernardo Gurevich's tobacco shop Combinados on Rivadavia 2279."	[03:59]
BingoBoingo	(whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control) << Glycogen and ATP depletion. The nerves fire, but the only muscle movements possible are less precise.	[04:01]
BingoBoingo	Leading too as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	and na/k imbalance and a bunch of other chemical issues yes.	[04:01]
punkman	do the argentines still celebrate Sacco and Vanzetti?	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	i doubt there's any argentine under 60 that has any fucking idea wtf brand of sardines that was.	[04:02]
BingoBoingo	na/k imbalance less of an issue unless sweating and the sweat is being separated from the skin.	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	"old school" hipsterism is being a communist nowadays.	[04:02]
BingoBoingo	Peak reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/3mxaaf/nsfwnsfltriggers_dated_by_a_ham_exploited_by_a/	[04:03]
assbot	reddit.com: over 18? ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBJ5a1 )	[04:03]
mircea_popescu	also http://40.media.tumblr.com/9a816f4ccf8ffb2841fcca3a19df351d/tumblr_nq3fla6Mi81s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg	[04:06]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1jxdPUB )	[04:06]
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BingoBoingo	"Why was there poop in your shower ?"	[04:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00068337 = 19.4077 BTC [-] {3}	[04:12]
BingoBoingo	Also... Tesla Motors just unveiled a hatchback...	[04:14]
BingoBoingo	And at 5,400 pounds it outweighs a lot of trucks...	[04:15]
BingoBoingo	It's an electric fucking vehicle with a 550 watt stereo	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	this nonsense of "we wanna be more energy efificent so we're dragging tons of worthless electricity storage around" is getting ever more ridiculous.	[04:18]
BingoBoingo	Seriously might as well have a car with an RTG	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	"why carry two barrels of gasoline around worth 10 mega-fucking-joules	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	when you could achieve the same effect with two and a half tons worth of lithium poison	[04:19]
BingoBoingo	Range is still only 250 miles, but prolly less if you turn up that stereo	[04:20]
punkman	maybe the stereo runs on gasoline	[04:20]
BingoBoingo	They promise though that if it rolls over "It will land on its feet" because... batteries go under drivers ass and the car's body	[04:21]
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mircea_popescu	ahahahaha punkman wins all of the bashes.	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	!b 10	[04:21]
assbot	Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0KRRD1D.txt )	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	incidentally, i wonder how many actually remember the important role of the bash function in the development of later crucial bits of infrastructure.	[04:21]
BingoBoingo	On the one plus though it seems that HAD to bring back body on frame construction... I mean seriously... No way they would do something like this as a unibody...	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	it's altogether unclear to me how long we'd have taken to figure out the dpaste deedbot- mechanism if there wasn't this dpaste thing for bashes	[04:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00068223 = 12.6213 BTC [-]	[04:25]
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BingoBoingo	Prolly 2017	[04:26]
HeySteve	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3J8V5NY	[04:27]
deedbot-	Bad URL or network outage.	[04:27]
assbot	dpaste: 3J8V5NY: stevekey, by steve ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxgvSe )	[04:27]
HeySteve	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3J8V5NY.txt	[04:29]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1jxgGNk )	[04:29]
deedbot-	imported: 5082594B795298BD62A00F4CAA5C799D12DAF5C6	[04:29]
BingoBoingo	Seriously though tubular titanium frame (carbon fiber shatters and no weight budget for containment, acrylic windshield, 100lb RTG, motor, plastic seat, passenger weight limit. Electricity generated at rest goes into home mains or rave lights. Top speed 25 mph.	[04:29]
BingoBoingo	Achieve top speed by going downhill.	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	top speed 25mph ?!	[04:30]
BingoBoingo	Goind downhill, kicking the ground Flinstones style occasionaly	[04:32]
BingoBoingo	http://qntra.net/2015/09/windows-truecrypt-fatally-flawed/#comment-62477	[04:32]
assbot	Windows TrueCrypt Fatally Flawed \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBM7uU )	[04:32]
BingoBoingo	Very big hill required	[04:32]
punkman	and then you tow it back up the hill with a VW?	[04:34]
BingoBoingo	Nah uphill you go 1/2 mhp, or push it up like a self propelled lawn mower.	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1981-149-34A%2C_Russland%2C_Herausziehen_eines_Autos.jpg <<< usg dept of human disservices THIS CLOSE to catching up to third reich technologees.	[04:36]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1jxhCRV )	[04:36]
BingoBoingo	On the plus side brag that you've had to buy tires more often than you've had to refuel	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	not so unlike bragging that you buy way more tissues than condoms.	[04:38]
BingoBoingo	More the opposites. Condoms cost more than tissues per load expended.	[04:39]
BingoBoingo	Plutonium-238 is expensive.	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	hm	[04:40]
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HeySteve	BingoBoingo just agree to build a bomb for some Iranians, take their Plutonium and give them back a shell full of used pinball parts	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	Then again Government Motors sells new Chevy Suburbans for the price of a modest Suburban house because cognitively paying that much for huge vehicle is cognitively less expensive than recognizing one let themselves get huge and doing something about it.	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	I watcher her eat a whole appetizer at a mexican restaurant along with an entree dish and a combo platter as her side. <<< ftr /me does this all the fucking time.	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	HeySteve: Wrong isotope. That's plutonium 239. Absolute shit for an RTG, doesn't get hot enough.	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	there are people still walking around who watched me eat TWO full steaks for breakfast in alabama.	[04:43]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: You fuck the energy out though, and... walk places...	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	black mamie-type waitress could not fucking believe the skinny white boy finished the first one, it was the size of her bosom.	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i guess that does it huh	[04:43]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I mean you have to figure the average reddit-mate gets a parking placard for their Autism and never has to walk more than 40 ft at a time again.	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	you should have seen the fucking disbelief on this middle aged woman i asked for directions yest. she was "you gotta take the colectivo, that's like... very far. it's unthinkably far. it's like... at least 50 blocks".	[04:44]
BingoBoingo	lol	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	wtf woman, so you walk for a coupla hours. what of it.	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	splendid weather in ba too, like 20 degrees, pleasant sun down here.	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	anyway, the city blocks here are reasonably scammy, there's like 10, even 20 to a mile.	[04:45]
BingoBoingo	Last night it was drizzling yet pleasant temperature so went to take a short walk. half a kilometer out started raining hard by no wind or lightening so figured I'd enjoy the sidewalks to myself.	[04:46]
BingoBoingo	Fuck even in small town here only fit 4-8 blocks to the mile.	[04:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00068223 = 8.255 BTC [-]	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo yeah, in the 4 blocks to the mile world her disbelief'd be a lot more at home, but ba is way denser than that.	[04:47]
mircea_popescu	in fact i did cover the distance (naon 3500 to corrientes ~7k) in about an hour give or take.	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	"When she's done I take her back to my place and initiate foreplay because I have to fucking get swabs if I want optimal prophylactic medical treatment for my dick area."	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	dude is fucking obnoxious srsly.	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	he actually expects sympathy for that pile of nonsense ?	[04:50]
BingoBoingo	Seriously, like peak fucking reddit narcisism.	[04:50]
BingoBoingo	ANd yet check those comments.	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	myeah. apparently dad never told him you're supposed to be charitable with women on the first date ?	[04:50]
BingoBoingo	Reddit/Murica/Democracy is broken.	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	"The smell was far worse mostly sober, but through a lot of "hand"iwork I was able to get three months of doxycycline and bactrim along with fluconazole and a single dose of some weird IV shit and an ointment. "	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	srsly ?!	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	THREE MONTHS of doxycycline ? AS A PROPHYLACTIC ?	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	for something that can't even happen ?	[04:52]
BingoBoingo	Almost seems like a troll post to see how... Retarded Retardid is...	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	i would hope so.	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	can you even take doxycycline for three months straight ?	[04:52]
BingoBoingo	Prolly, but... imagine c diff and worse would follow.	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	this is like...	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	tb courses are six weeks. pneumo courses are four weeks.	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck is fourteen weeks for.	[04:54]
BingoBoingo	If that long. At that point they'd use another drug.	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	when sigounrey weaver fucked that alien she didn't get 14 weeks of medicine for it.	[04:54]
*	BingoBoingo confesses he posted the work of fiction to see how retarded reddit in general is	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	hahaha what ?	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	omfg stub nuts	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	dat was you ?	[04:56]
BingoBoingo	I put together all of their tropes into a horror story.	[04:56]
BingoBoingo	Yes you caught my shill account.	[04:56]
BingoBoingo	Because reddit is outside the Republic, needs fucked with.	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	dude who're you fooling. this was that pinoy mail order bride wasn't it.	[04:56]
BingoBoingo	Mebbe	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:57]
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mircea_popescu	somehow this enhances the amusement.]	[04:57]
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BingoBoingo	It's actually what I think about the Tesla Model X	[04:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18656 @ 0.00068175 = 12.7187 BTC [-] {3}	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	"Bonus: The part where I was turned off by her weight turned her on. I have never felt more sexually vulnerable in my life than in the aftermath, thank god nothing was viral." <<< lolz.	[04:58]
BingoBoingo	Since it wouldn't be wort diluting qntra shares over a derpy hatchback I decided to try writing reddit soup.	[04:59]
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mircea_popescu	"Being fat is a huge red flag for mental illness and disease." << this is actually true.	[04:59]
BingoBoingo	It is	[04:59]
mircea_popescu	being fat is a huge red flag for mental illness.	[04:59]
BingoBoingo	And other disease.	[04:59]
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mircea_popescu	myeah, kinda hard to stay healthy if overweight.	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/3mxaaf/nsfwnsfltriggers_dated_by_a_ham_exploited_by_a/cvj1zfm	[05:01]
assbot	reddit.com: over 18? ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxkVbJ )	[05:01]
BingoBoingo	I mean even bidets don't have the pressure to get everything down there if one is shitting 'Murican sugah shits	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha. somehow i know the answer to that question.	[05:01]
-mquin-	[Global Notice] On or around Friday, October 2nd we will be cleaning up the services database. Now's a good time to ensure you identify to services when connecting. Check out http://blog.freenode.net/2015/09/services-database-purge/	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	clearly b-a was integral to my well rounded practical education.	[05:01]
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BingoBoingo	Gotta include known parts of their folklore	[05:02]
mircea_popescu	check it out, someone there knows the answer.	[05:02]
mircea_popescu	you know, i think we're watching a meme being born. some nutty reddit comment, probably ALSO from a fake acct,	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	now you kited it	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	and by next week it's gonna be "fat people are notorious for doing" something no fat person probably ever did before.	[05:03]
BingoBoingo	I wasn't the account with the answer. I started a fire, but not that fire.	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	yeah but...	[05:04]
BingoBoingo	I mean you gotta figure... If your shit is too sticky for a bidet... The shower offers greater pressure...	[05:05]
BingoBoingo	Then again hose showers aren't really a 'Murican thing	[05:06]
BingoBoingo	-mquin- [Global Notice] On or around Friday, October 2nd we will be cleaning up the services database. Now's a good time to ensure you identify to services when connecting. Check out http://blog.freenode.net/2015/09/services-database-purge/ << Prolly a good time for people with near perma-connected bouncers to login and log off because Freenode tracks last login time...	[05:08]
assbot	Services database purge \| staffblog ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxlPVU )	[05:08]
BingoBoingo	And seriously. Is there such a thing as a REAL reddit account?	[05:10]
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BingoBoingo	At least after 2007 or so.	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	possibily not.	[05:12]
BingoBoingo	I don't see any Reddit accounts in deedbot	[05:12]
BingoBoingo	Also the original different purpose altchain has some bsns http://blog.namecoin.org/post/130158040415/onenames-blockstore-is-much-less-secure-than	[05:15]
assbot	Namecoin News & Developer Blog — OneName’s Blockstore is much less secure than... ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxmPcC )	[05:15]
HeySteve	about deedbot, I don't quite get the hashing as privkey thing, what is the purpose?	[05:15]
BingoBoingo	Namecoin's not exactly a critical piece of infrastructure but it seems to have been shitgnomed	[05:16]
BingoBoingo	about deedbot, I don't quite get the hashing as privkey thing, what is the purpose? << To get spent from, it is the ultimate verification	[05:16]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287904 << except maryland wasn't one of them.	[05:32]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 20:25:00; ascii_field: notice how the latest wave of 'OMG!!11!!1!!policebrutality!11!!1livezmatter!!11' began with... several states proclaiming intent to arrest federal law enforcers in some cases	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287944 << pretty cool actually.	[05:35]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 20:54:00; phf: i added eatbulk to bitcoind that takes a folder with blk dat files and eats them in order, provisioning the node at the moment. pointless graphs time! http://glyf.org/tmp/height-time.png hours vs block height, http://glyf.org/tmp/height-delta.png block height vs delay from previous ACCEPTED	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1287999 << perhaps of interest http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2013#28723 and certainly of interest http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2013#349854	[05:43]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 00:27:08; jurov: ..aaand http://www.itworld.com/article/2987438/newly-found-truecrypt-flaw-allows-full-system-compromise.html	[05:43]
assbot	Logged on 14-05-2013 02:03:43; mircea_popescu: "I haven't nor will I ask for donations. This truly sucks for me, but I only want to find out how this happened. I wish I could see the code/method used for educational purposes. Fuck people who steal. I strive for bitcoins and litecoins to gain popularity among the masses and become an accepted currency in societies eyes."	[05:43]
assbot	Logged on 13-10-2013 20:20:24; mircea_popescu: without going into all the ways truecrypt is broken and etc, which i don't feel i have the energy for	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	or for that matter http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2013#28814	[05:44]
assbot	Logged on 14-05-2013 02:25:44; mircea_popescu: my impression of the general truecrypt population is that they're not particularly more secure than average	[05:44]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288003 << incidentally, this happens to be the killer app for derpage a la "automated contracts" or whatever they call colored coins by now.	[05:48]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 00:39:53; jurov: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/09/28/this-sleazy-and-totally-illegal-savings-scheme-may-be-the-future-of-retirement/	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	course the 20 yo geniuses involved have nfi of anything so they don't know this either, but whatever.	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288037 << what part of math is thereby contradicted ?	[05:52]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 02:23:13; mike_c: bitbettors can't do math. if trump is 50/50, why is jeb 5:1 to win? https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/	[05:52]
*	BingoBoingo had a hypnagogic realization every good internet meme has started with a troll. Also prime numbers ending in 3 where 3 is not preceded by 2 are mauve.	[05:53]
BingoBoingo	back to bed	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	oh wait, 5:1 the other way lol	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	bet's new, prolly not covered yet.	[05:54]
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mircea_popescu	also, http://36.media.tumblr.com/a609ac02f340aece2446717186a369ad/tumblr_nlbro03X7p1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg	[05:59]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KR6Xs5 )	[05:59]
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davout	mircea_popescu: tbf i'd probably advertise x.eur a bit more if i didn't have to wait days for x.eur holder statements	[06:07]
mircea_popescu	you never had to wait all that much once you asked for 'em!	[06:07]
mircea_popescu	i'm ... mefiant of too automated systems.	[06:08]
davout	the point is i really shouldn't have to ask	[06:08]
davout	i'm not saying it has to be automated	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	i can't in good conscience propose that the contract may be renewed when i've not even heard from you.	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	this may even be ridiculous, but it's still what i'm stuck with.	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	there must be a minimum of attention available. it is perhaps true that if you didn't even have to show up once a mnonth for it you'd have more attention available to promote the thing. it is an unpersuasive theory.	[06:10]
davout	nobody is proposing the contract should be renewed, the contract itself is here, stands and describes the instrument, that's how i read it	[06:12]
davout	"2.3. Settlement. Upon the Settlement Date, which shall be the 15th day of every month at noon GMT,"	[06:13]
davout	"(a) The Exchange will compile a list of all contract holders, identifying their registered GPG signatures and the number of contracts held, encrypt this list and forward it to the Market Maker."	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	you seriously propose that going "oh hai" once a month is too much service here ?	[06:14]
davout	is that what i'm proposing?	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	best i can tell.	[06:16]
mircea_popescu	for instance : last month, the stuff went unrenewed for about two weeks. two weeks during which you didn't complain about the matter. this, not because I didn't notice. i had noticed. i was actually getting ready to announce that the x.eur thing is discontinued.	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	the moral of that experience isn't to complain at me that you weren't around for a while. the moral of that experience is to be around. it is after all your flagship product as far as i can tell. treat it like it were.	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	and yes this includes scheduling your vacations, divorces and funerals around the 15th of the month. it's that important.	[06:20]
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mircea_popescu	and since we're talking about things : http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/09/07/bitcoin-startup-paymium-raised-e1-million-in-seed-funding/ << this i read about in "newsbtc" ? because why ?	[06:26]
assbot	Bitcoin Startup Paymium Raised €1 Million in Seed Funding - NEWSBTC ... ( http://bit.ly/1KR8dLN )	[06:26]
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davout	what i'm proposing is that the contract is pretty clear, and that me hanging around #b-a and keeping up with it, is important, but nonetheless absolutely orthogonal with it.	[06:29]
davout	if you want to make me requesting x.eur holders list a part of the process that's fine, we'll update the contract	[06:30]
mircea_popescu	i don't want anything specific. but i will be keeping track of a large ammount of tiny indicators, because anything else results in exam-taking-training.	[06:30]
mircea_popescu	so if you're wondering where the X is, as you should be wondering at any point after noon on the 15th, and it occurs to you we've prolly not heard anything from you in weeks, one of the simplest solutions is to fix it ad hoc, and one of the better solutions is to fix whatsoever fundamental problems that led to your misallocation of time towards reddit or w/e the fuck. because otherwise the rift this allows is bound to	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	grow, and eventually tear things apart.	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	maybe i got special mental needs or something, but to me all this seems obvious.	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	and i still dunno why if im friends with the cto of some company i gotta read from random spamsite about financing events at some company.	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	i can't even follow how or why this seemed like a good idea.	[06:34]
davout	thought i had talked about it in-chan, guess i didn't	[06:40]
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mircea_popescu	i love you but dun go tramplin' on my feelin's!!!	[06:42]
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mircea_popescu	re the entire "shower pooping" thing, http://biznology.com/2012/02/how-paul-m-barrett-won-over-message-boards/	[06:51]
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davout	mircea_popescu: "one of the simplest solutions is to fix it ad hoc" <<< precisely what's been happening	[06:58]
mircea_popescu	aha	[06:59]
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punkman	http://dpaste.com/1YTZT28 heh	[07:37]
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deedbot-	[Trilema] How the world worked back when the world worked - http://trilema.com/2015/how-the-world-worked-back-when-the-world-worked/	[08:13]
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davout	jurov: pouting?	[09:09]
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davout	what do you mean?	[09:11]
davout	never waited two weeks	[09:13]
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davout	i asked for september's settlement holders list on sept 21, and I got it shortly afterwards, and you were delivered shortly after that	[09:16]
davout	that i have to ask, despite the contract clearly saying the exact opposite is something that is apparently obvious to everyone but me	[09:18]
davout	in direct contradiction of 4.1 of said contract, btw	[09:19]
davout	anyway, the fact that deliveries actually occur in much less than two weeks(tm) is what ultimately matters to me	[09:21]
davout	i read "tacit" as "not requiring being explicit about it" not much more	[09:24]
davout	to me, the "davout is dead or unresponsive" case is covered by the "market maker's deposit"-related parts	[09:26]
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davout	jurov: i think everyone's thoughts are pretty clear now	[09:28]
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funkenstein_	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287990 <-- it is a bit odd to focus on planned parenthood and not the nazi connection dontcha think?	[10:08]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 23:42:10; BingoBoingo: http://m.snopes.com/prescott-bush-planned-parenthood/	[10:08]
funkenstein_	and damn that ICD-10 or whatever AMA idiocy you linked BingoBoingo was an eye opener. Official policy appears to be that top level doctors and surgeons are to be treated like morons.	[10:08]
funkenstein_	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288078 <-- sure I'll bite, why not? :)	[10:08]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 04:10:24; mircea_popescu: red indian tribes in new england might have had it independently, but unfortunately the society was woman-centric and so it tripped all over itself and died before we could give a shit.	[10:08]
funkenstein_	like, what would that even mean, "women-centric"? Perhaps that as a man you would move in at your mother-in-law's place and take their name.	[10:09]
funkenstein_	An arrangement that doesn't sound too bad to me, having a house given to you as well as babysitters and cooks	[10:09]
funkenstein_	meanwhile chiefs, warriors, politicos, doctors - still were most always male gender	[10:10]
funkenstein_	houses being passed on to the daughters is the main reason anthropologist use the word "matriarchy"	[10:11]
funkenstein_	anyway the idea that any of this would have an affect on whether your kids were slaughtered by retarded orcs is oblique at best	[10:12]
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funkenstein_	people don't have to give a shit, nor crack a book. but then bringing it up as if they did give a shit doesn't seem productive does it?	[10:12]
funkenstein_	today i saw "alf" written in small fluorescent green letters on the side of greek orthodox church	[10:13]
funkenstein_	mod6, thanks for the updated tutorial!	[10:13]
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mircea_popescu	anyway the idea that any of this would have an affect on whether your kids were slaughtered by retarded orcs is oblique at best << not obligue at all. see "common decency" comments.	[10:15]
mircea_popescu	but in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/804babab76943f2c67c56ee16a7c3479/tumblr_nvcu52Qpk81tsn8x4o1_1280.jpg	[10:16]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KRzEnZ )	[10:16]
mircea_popescu	and ftr, what i mean by "women-centric" is that the sorts of concerns of women (pain avoidance) are priviledged as societal goals. this is both harmful to society's prospects of survival as it is harmful to ALL individual members, overall, of both sexes.	[10:17]
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funkenstein_	aha, perhaps something like a "the world is a loving mother and will take care of you" attitude?	[10:27]
funkenstein_	doesn't always work out that way does it	[10:29]
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funkenstein_	I loled at butthurt Wagner :)	[10:32]
funkenstein_	i heard his father, on his deathbed, said something like "do you think [Wilhelm] has any musical talent?"	[10:33]
funkenstein_	off to the mines..	[10:35]
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mod6	<+funkenstein_> mod6, thanks for the updated tutorial! << yw	[10:58]
punkman	mod6, can haz graph with the 3 patches I sent to ml? curious how that'd look	[11:00]
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mod6	I might be able to throw that together. my version should be out for testing in the next week or so though if you just wanna wait. it'll build the whole graph for you with wild patches.	[11:04]
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mod6	i'm trying to wrap up all these automated cucumber tests & loose ends on some stuff.	[11:04]
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mod6	at this point, what it'll do is build a whole graphviz dotfile and output that to stdout or a file. the only part that it wont do (because you have to install `dot' separately) is for example: `dot -Tsvg > graph.html`	[11:08]
mod6	i guess i could add a method that'll check if dot is installed, and if it is, then will generate the svg html file for you... but shrug	[11:09]
mod6	like i said, loose ends :]	[11:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18509 @ 0.0006809 = 12.6028 BTC [-] {4}	[11:10]
mod6	oh and also, your vpatches won't be added until after the release... so the graph will look a bit different with your 3 vpatches.	[11:18]
mod6	like alf and I were discussing last week - we're going to create a release vpatch that will take all leaf edges and tie them up with a new release vertex.	[11:19]
mod6	then yours will be added after that.	[11:19]
punkman	mod6, release patch means every other patch you had not in release breaks though	[11:20]
punkman	I don't see why it's better than release being a manifest with a patch sequence	[11:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.000685 = 11.1655 BTC [+]	[11:22]
mircea_popescu	o hey, redditard crowd finally catching up to 2013ish mpoe-pr, discovering btcjam is a scam ?	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	this can actually only be good for bitcoin	[11:25]
*	lobbes used to work with a guy that would come into office everyday talking about his btcjam 'investors club'; couldn't talk sense into the guy	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	you know that ballas bit right ?	[11:26]
lobbes	I do not, no	[11:27]
thestringpuller	I'm amazed BTCJam has survived so long.	[11:27]
thestringpuller	There is a reason no one plays banker anymore.	[11:27]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/#selection-39.0-39.209	[11:28]
assbot	The psychology of the bagholder on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LP1RAY )	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	"The mistake is in thinking this has anything to do with the money. It's said that most at home traders fail, but this is incorrect: they fail at making money, but they are successful at feeling like a trader."	[11:28]
lobbes	ahh yes. This rings a bell	[11:28]
lobbes	that is essentially spot on to his MO. You could tell it was an 'emotional high' for the dude	[11:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00068009 = 20.9808 BTC [-] {5}	[11:30]
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mircea_popescu	aha	[11:41]
mod6	So, if I make a test-release.vpatch to tie up the leafs for what we have in "v0.5.4-TEST2" or what we're calling "v0.5.4" then it ties up "asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch" and "asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch". If your patches are added after that, they become leafs along with the "test-release.vpatch".	[11:53]
mod6	I have a screenshot I've put up for you to see: http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/release-vpatch-wDebugSanity.png	[11:53]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Rg0Ku4 )	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	also, literature! http://31.media.tumblr.com/c891b3322ce2ebbd2511f7b5d1ce4c9b/tumblr_nvctwjg8Uw1tsn8x4o1_500.gif	[11:57]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1YOCGUh )	[11:57]
deedbot-	[Trilema] ¿No se puede? Ba pe-a ma-tii. - http://trilema.com/2015/%c2%bfno-se-puede-ba-pe-a-ma-tii/	[12:00]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288440 << this is not a bug. it is correct behaviour.	[12:04]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 14:51:53; mod6: So, if I make a test-release.vpatch to tie up the leafs for what we have in "v0.5.4-TEST2" or what we're calling "v0.5.4" then it ties up "asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch" and "asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch". If your patches are added after that, they become leafs along with the "test-release.vpatch".	[12:04]
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ascii_field	it breaks the 'come to expect' of some folks, likely. but it ~correctly~ displays flow.	[12:05]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288304 << aha. so far only a few pesthole states, and even in these, strictly ceremonial gesture	[12:07]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 08:30:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287904 << except maryland wasn't one of them.	[12:07]
mircea_popescu	but the thing you referenced was specifically maryland ?	[12:07]
mircea_popescu	you can't propose x theory is exemplified by y trend when the core of y is different from the elements of x.	[12:08]
ascii_field	i was speaking of overall neg-pr campaign against municipal police in all if usa	[12:09]
ascii_field	*of usa	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	but blacklivesmatter is a maryland thing, and the "arrest usg twerps" is a "other states than maryland" thing.	[12:10]
ascii_field	mno	[12:10]
ascii_field	usa-wide thing	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	usa is not a thing.	[12:10]
ascii_field	ferguson, for instance, is not in md.	[12:11]
thestringpuller	"The FEDS are your friends."	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	which usa for that matter ? cali-usa ? washdc-usa ?	[12:11]
ascii_field	black usa?	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	black usa is pretty much georgia	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	[centered on]	[12:12]
thestringpuller	What?!?	[12:13]
ascii_field	btw when usa folk think 'black', generally this means urbanscartissuefolk	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	iirc, the entire "arrest feds" thing was arizona -nm-texas.	[12:13]
ascii_field	it was. but usg cauterized the wound	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile in related lolz : http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pot-legal-d-c-congressman-threatens-send-city-officials-prison/	[12:13]
assbot	Feds Threaten D.C. Officials with Prison If they Go Through with Pot Legalization on Thursday \| The Free Thought Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1YOEwo7 )	[12:13]
thestringpuller	How is black USA pretty much Georgia?	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller well what is it ?	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	it's not north dakota is it ?	[12:14]
ascii_field	but it is la and baltimore and dc	[12:15]
ascii_field	wherever there is 'concrete jungle'	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	i dunno.	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	the notion that blacks matter in la... get off it. it's all hispanics.	[12:16]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: i feel like there is southern black people here, but Georgia is mainly rednecks.	[12:16]
ascii_field	they matter in the sense of keeping poor whites out ?	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	dude were you even in la ?	[12:17]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller it is ?	[12:17]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: Atlanta has a lot of black folk. But Georgia as a whole is mainly rednecks.	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller afaik (mebbe out of date) georgia has the largest black population of the union	[12:18]
thestringpuller	The suburbs of Atlanta are mainly white people factory.	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	it not being a terribly populous state, this makes the percent markedly higher than say ny or la	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	like 30% or some shit	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	doubt anything else is even over 20. maybe mississippi	[12:19]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288115 << he lost his head at the cia's pleasure	[12:19]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 04:49:18; mircea_popescu: scarcely 50 years have passed since the last executed president.	[12:19]
thestringpuller	yea it's number 3 but there are more in surrounding states like missipi and LA (the state)	[12:19]
thestringpuller	in percent of population	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	a ok	[12:20]
thestringpuller	but yea I guess it is #1 in the union for black people	[12:20]
thestringpuller	with a whopping 3million negros!	[12:20]
thestringpuller	New York is in close 2nd	[12:20]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: it is never about the pop % ! it is about cities	[12:20]
thestringpuller	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population << Has a list for reference based on census.	[12:20]
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mircea_popescu	eh it's about telling stories. how the heck wouldja infer that "at cia's pleasure" either.	[12:21]
mircea_popescu	dude check that out.	[12:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00067979 = 16.5189 BTC [-]	[12:21]
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ascii_field	the real estate racket conscripted these folks to make prime city areas uninhabitable	[12:21]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field that aside, your theory was that the entire black lives matter narrative is somehow "at cia's pleasure" and for the purpose of countering the "arrest feds" movement.	[12:22]
ascii_field	nono	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	neither of these two stands.	[12:22]
ascii_field	death of jfk	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	well then ?	[12:22]
ascii_field	other thread	[12:22]
thestringpuller	black people cared more about the death of MLK than JFK...	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	i conflated because it seems to me you're generally just post-dating any event that happened to "cia's will"	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	meta-nsa, whatever.	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller if you think about it, 3 mn is not really all that much.	[12:23]
ascii_field	cia per se only re: jfk	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	i'm unpersuaded.	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	some obscure cell seems much more probable.	[12:23]
ascii_field	brb	[12:24]
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mircea_popescu	!up ascii_field	[12:26]
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ascii_field	recommended, 'death and life of great american cities' (jacobs)	[12:27]
ascii_field	short version, proto-usg squeezed out poor white catholics, who were slow to 'get with the program', from urban centers, with 'population replacement' gambit where 'housing projects' were built and filled with lumpens	[12:28]
mircea_popescu	i am unpersuaded by that, either.	[12:29]
mircea_popescu	what remains here is : a) that the usg is very vulnerable, has always been, and far from a "you can do nothing to us" a top guy is killed every few decades, and the lower agents get popped daily.	[12:29]
mircea_popescu	in fact it's safer to be a criminal than a usg agent.	[12:29]
ascii_field	fact is, poor whites are virtually absent from urban centers. whether martians removed them, or something else, can be debated. the demographics - not so much	[12:29]
mircea_popescu	and b) that there's scant relation between the raping of the usg in the states as per the marijuana thing ands the raping of the usg in other states as per the blacks thing	[12:30]
ascii_field	!s lon horiuchi	[12:30]
assbot	5 results for 'lon horiuchi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=lon+horiuchi	[12:30]
ascii_field	^ among the most hated men alive, but in great health!	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	this is like observing that beggars are absent from the countryside.	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	of course they are. they go to the subway entrances.	[12:30]
ascii_field	re: the dope wars: wake me up when dea agents are packed off to jails for enforcing their laws, and convoyed by state national guard if need be	[12:31]
ascii_field	(will be mega-interesting in d.c., as it has no national guard proper afaik)	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	im sure it can call out for volunteers :D	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	(something along these lines is the reasonable expectation re the breakup.	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	ru will certainly send 100k people if there's a way.)	[12:33]
ascii_field	perhaps it will invent teleporter.	[12:33]
mircea_popescu	what, like the 50mn illegals did ?	[12:33]
ascii_field	those are here at the pleasure of lizard cathedral.	[12:33]
mircea_popescu	nonsense.	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	they are there at the raping of the lizard cathedral.	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	just like the russian volunteers would be.	[12:34]
ascii_field	they do 90% of the physical labour.	[12:35]
mircea_popescu	and the volunteers would do 90% of the shooting	[12:35]
mircea_popescu	and the rotterham pakis did 90% of the teen fucking	[12:35]
mircea_popescu	so what of it.	[12:35]
ascii_field	including the hard work of properly terrorizing whites to keep real estate expensive	[12:35]
ascii_field	~precisely~ same purpose, aha	[12:35]
mircea_popescu	there is no purpose to human affairs.	[12:35]
ascii_field	we are looking at a crafted system, no less than so than a pentium	[12:36]
ascii_field	not a naturally-occurring sludge pool	[12:36]
ascii_field	there is sludge being pumped, yes	[12:36]
ascii_field	but through pipes, put there with purpose.	[12:36]
mircea_popescu	we are not.	[12:37]
ascii_field	usa is a 'divide and conquer' affair from the very start.	[12:38]
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ascii_field	when slaves were set against the 'indentured men'	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	this is too reductive to be usable.	[12:39]
mircea_popescu	for one thing "usa" did not exist from the very start.	[12:39]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: for my enlightenment, formulate example of 'usable' hypothesis here ?	[12:39]
mircea_popescu	"usa" was the brand name a few disparate centers of population and of a few slightly more coherent centers of production used for a brief interval between two european wars.	[12:40]
*	ascii_field is taking 'very start' to refer, as it conventionally did, to the english colonies of 17th and 18th c.	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	it has no more substance to it than "revlon"	[12:40]
ascii_field	shorthand for 'the lands which became modern usa'	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	there is no contemporary usa.	[12:40]
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mircea_popescu	there WAS, briefly, a thing called usa. it started cca 1905 and ended cca 1960	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	as the outermost extensions	[12:41]
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mircea_popescu	it was replaced by "the us", but much in the way things changed from the pre-brejnev soviets to the post, it is now a label to distance oneself from.	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	nobody seriously professed a hatred of the usa, or professes a love of the us.	[12:43]
ascii_field	nobody ?	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	pushing a point, but no, even the teeth clenching arabs were in love with the usa.	[12:44]
ascii_field	i suppose this is a technical, mircea_popescuing sense of 'nobody', where million half-imbecile schoolchildren singing the anthem don't count as 'body	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	iirc this is no longer a thing.	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	and hasn't been for years.	[12:45]
ascii_field	sure it is	[12:45]
ascii_field	or, it was, when i was a schoolboy	[12:46]
ascii_field	20y ago.	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	"According to a 2004 Harris Interactive survey, nearly two out of three Americans (61 percent) are unable to recall all of the words to The Star-Spangled Banner"	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	gimme a break ?	[12:47]
thestringpuller	O' Say does that star spangled banner yet waaaaaave!	[12:47]
ascii_field	but they can whistle it !	[12:47]
ascii_field	this is a passing mark in this day and age.	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	methinks the perch you stand on is awash.	[12:48]
thestringpuller	damn I'm one those 61%	[12:48]
thestringpuller	i totally don't know the national anthem	[12:48]
*	ascii_field can do the su anthem but has trouble with last 2 stanzas of usaian	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	mmkay.	[12:48]
*	mircea_popescu even vaguely remembers the rsr anthem, notwithstanding that we DIDNT actually have to do it in school.	[12:49]
ascii_field	союз нерушимый республик свободных......	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	btw, it's a pretty shitty anthem i always thought.	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	musically speaking.	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	i mean these ppl do not understand wtf an anthem's supposed to be or what is this toothpaste.	[12:50]
ascii_field	i for one find it to be the only musically bearable one i've ever heard !	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	srsly ?	[12:50]
ascii_field	i suppose 'different stokes for different folkz'	[12:50]
*	mircea_popescu is partial to german marches.	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	now THAT makles a good anthem.	[12:50]
ascii_field	fredericus rex !	[12:50]
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mircea_popescu	for instance. but there's dozens of perfectly passible ones	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	even their current one (wacth am rhein iirc ?) is good.	[12:51]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288003 << beaten to a pulp in ancient logz...	[12:52]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 00:39:53; jurov: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/09/28/this-sleazy-and-totally-illegal-savings-scheme-may-be-the-future-of-retirement/	[12:52]
ascii_field	!s tontine	[12:52]
assbot	9 results for 'tontine' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tontine	[12:52]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[12:52]
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ascii_field	esp. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2014#476686	[12:53]
assbot	Logged on 04-02-2014 00:55:48; asciilifeform: a 'kinder, gentler' tontine, where you don't have to plug your rivals, just help them forget to check their mail	[12:53]
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mircea_popescu	marking a complete torah.	[12:55]
ascii_field	talmud	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	right.	[12:55]
jurov	no, talmud is therealbitcoin mailing list	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	btw, since all the cia talk necessarily leads one to thinking of waco :	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	anyone familiar with the antics of the victims there ?	[12:55]
ascii_field	aha	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	like, for instance, the one time that dude vying for power with some other dude DUG UP A CASKET	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	and challenged his opponent to a RESURECTION CONTEST ?	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	like you know, wager of combat ^ -e	[12:56]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: it was the very textbook example of usg powershow modus operandi - pick on the borderline retarded, preferably ones who practice voodoo to a degree repugnant to the tvtronic public	[12:58]
ascii_field	polygamy busts were (are?) also popular for this reason	[12:59]
ascii_field	(bonus element of envy !)	[12:59]
mircea_popescu	oh right. how about the time when "it was decided" only the one schmuck can fuck, and the husbands of the women involved are to be liek you know, celibate now.	[12:59]
ascii_field	cult sop ?	[13:00]
mircea_popescu	i dunno about that.	[13:00]
mircea_popescu	more like, "small island tribal chieftain" sop.	[13:01]
mircea_popescu	which i guess describes the us as well as it describes polynesia, sure.	[13:01]
ascii_field	described the voodoo enclaves, no ?	[13:01]
mircea_popescu	i dunno that this nonsense sexual stellarity is all that common in practice.	[13:02]
ascii_field	these were nucleation points for 'militia movement' in the '90s, which was, afaik, five parts usg provocateurship to one part genuine, if imbecilic, organized rebellion - which had to be nuked	[13:02]
ascii_field	and so it was.	[13:02]
mircea_popescu	i do not for a moment believe the ridiculous antics of nutty neoprotestant biggots in rural texas are a nucleation for anything.	[13:04]
mircea_popescu	including a syphilis outbreak.	[13:04]
ascii_field	they were ~to usg~	[13:04]
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ascii_field	we are discussing psychiatric picture, not reality as such	[13:04]
mircea_popescu	you are attempting psychiatry on an undefined, noncorporeal entity ?	[13:07]
mircea_popescu	"After the ceasefire, the Branch Davidians allowed the ATF dead and wounded to be evacuated and held their fire during the ATF retreat."	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	the funny thing is, that the "marginally retarded" (which they were) had the usg agents so badly beaten it was fucking ridiculous.	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	in fact anyone even survived to tell the story because these derps allowed it. could just as well have executed the entire bunch.	[13:23]
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mircea_popescu	hey mike_c diana_coman is looking for noob miners	[13:27]
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mike_c	yeah.. my available gaming time is down to nil right now. Busy working on a sekrit project.	[13:28]
mike_c	it will be.. amazing.	[13:28]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[13:28]
mike_c	ty assbot.	[13:28]
mircea_popescu	o ? cool	[13:29]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: if they had massacred the fbi troops, the likely response (according to some sources, it was already in the works at the time) was aerial bombardment until nothing moves	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	so ?	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	im sure they deeply cared.	[13:31]
ascii_field	so apparently they cared ?	[13:31]
ascii_field	or else why the ceasefire	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	dude spare me the bullshit bluffs.	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	the likely response would have been exactly what argentina response is in similar to scale incidents	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	run away screaming and pretend nothing ever happened.	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	wtf.	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	what happened when they got anally raped at tikrit ?	[13:32]
mircea_popescu	"areal bombardment until nothing is ever mentioned again in the agitprop press"	[13:32]
ascii_field	and when the now-appearently-sovereign little enclave starts minting methcoin, polygamically rogering nomenklature daughters, and sheltering assassins ?	[13:32]
mike_c	bombardment like bombs? seems unlikely they would drop bombs in texas.	[13:33]
ascii_field	mike_c: ever consider what national guard is for ?	[13:33]
ascii_field	and why it is equipped with bombs (it is)	[13:33]
mike_c	so this would have been first time ever?	[13:33]
mike_c	national guard is for sending to iraq when they run out of regulars	[13:34]
ascii_field	1st since cw1	[13:34]
ascii_field	this would, logically, be cw2.	[13:34]
mircea_popescu	mike_c it's out of the question.	[13:34]
mike_c	well, cw1 didn't have bombs	[13:34]
mike_c	not aerial ones at least	[13:34]
ascii_field	cw1 had artillery.	[13:34]
mircea_popescu	if you're thinking an ailing, falling under its own weight bureaucracy - not even this one in particular, any one - is actually brimming with the virility of youth and ready to escalate until nothing's left you're seriously from a different movie.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	old men put all their all into their first scream because that's all they got.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	you scream louder and that's the end of the fucking story.	[13:36]
ascii_field	that bus mats rode in was full of emasculated old men ?	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	pretty much.	[13:37]
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mircea_popescu	in any case, i have had opportunity to try this in the field : when i maneuvered teh demonstrators around the "security cordon", they didn't do anything. they fell back. cuz wtf were they gonna do.	[13:38]
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mircea_popescu	this is universal. if the hrt team gets blown to bits, they run off. what fucking "aerial bombardment", you think that's how it goes, someone feels like it one day and that's it, go ?	[13:38]
ascii_field	strong state does not degenerate to a point where you can ask this question.	[13:38]
ascii_field	which is why usg is not considering what part of texas to bomb today.	[13:38]
mircea_popescu	yaya.	[13:39]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288069 << i like this as much as anybody, but a) i don't expect to ever live to see it come back and b) if i did live to see it, would probably end up on the suitcase-carrying side of the equation, so i don't especially cry from not living to see it.	[13:43]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 04:02:22; mircea_popescu: and the entire society is organised around this notion.	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	this is exactly like saying cca 1915 that "you don't expect to ever live to see computers and if you do you'll prolly be on the side of polishing the casings".	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	this is broadly missing the point, because the sides you'd know about pre aren't a good representation of the sides that actually exist post.	[13:44]
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ascii_field	i'm not sure there ever were, or could be, more than two sides of the menial labour counter	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	it's more complicated. the benefits that acrue from living in a sane society are not directly apparent in insanity-land. best one could tell the porter of 1950 was way happier than the bill de blasio of 2010.	[13:46]
ascii_field	but i dont wanna be a porter.	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	in any case, i know that if it were possible to never ever run into either an idiot or idiot droppings, i'd gladly carry cases for the rest of my lives.	[13:47]
ascii_field	in 1950, 550, 50, or 2050.	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	i sorta feel about these like i imagine you feel about rats.	[13:47]
ascii_field	i don't really distinguish the quadripedal and bipedal rat	[13:47]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288099 << ahahahaha yes.	[13:49]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 04:41:02; mircea_popescu: also asciilifeform might enjoy http://uncouthreflections.com/2015/09/28/the-real-problem-of-sexual-assault-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-32725 discussion	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	According to the FBI, Steve Schneider—Koresh's top aide, who "probably realized he was dealing with a fraud"—shot and killed Koresh and then killed himself with the same gun.	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	bwahahaha yeah, that is SO VERY TOTALLY what happened.	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	magda realised she's dealing with a fraud so she killed herself and her kids. logic!	[13:51]
ascii_field	'he ran into my knife! ten times!'	[13:51]
ascii_field	see also death of harris & klebold.	[13:52]
ascii_field	(~exact~ same Official picture)	[13:52]
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ascii_field	'I asked a professor for help with a problem. He talked to me for a bit and then said “You’re having trouble with this problem because you don’t know anything and you’re not working very hard.”' << win	[13:55]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: how does http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288105 work with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288108 ?	[13:56]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 04:42:57; mircea_popescu: the only just desserts of a castrated population is the humiliation ratchet.	[13:56]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 04:46:49; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287879 << see, the subtle differences make the difference. no, that's not what i say.	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	your proposed "not pashtun" is not equal to my actual position! nor even very similar.	[13:57]
ascii_field	roughly, 'unable to be herded by police like cattle' ?	[13:57]
ascii_field	or is there some problem with this heuristic	[13:57]
mircea_popescu	"have something to live for that's inside themselves"	[13:57]
ascii_field	this, roughly, 'pashtunity'	[13:58]
mircea_popescu	ie, humanity.	[13:58]
ascii_field	!s berkem atomi	[13:58]
assbot	0 results for 'berkem atomi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=berkem+atomi	[13:58]
ascii_field	^ pseudonym	[13:58]
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ascii_field	wrote the little bit about 'extracting your will cock from its scabbard' etc	[13:59]
ascii_field	he also had 'there are pigs... such as you, the reader... then there are jackals, who will eat your carcass when the collapse comes... and there are - or were, human beings. you have almost certainly never met one and never will, reader.' (translation mine)	[13:59]
ascii_field	i suppose these human beings, above.	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	it's really not that rare. just uncommon to be speaking english.	[14:00]
ascii_field	aha.	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	o look, even had a twitter.	[14:01]
-mquin-	[Global Notice] On or around Friday, October 2nd we will be cleaning up the services database. Now's a good time to ensure you identify to services when connecting. Check out http://blog.freenode.net/2015/09/services-database-purge/	[14:01]
ascii_field	http://zhurnal.lib.ru/b/berkem_a_a/paniker.shtml << the essay. in case phf or mircea_popescu feels like translating	[14:02]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1QLc4NW )	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	why and how did mquin decide spamming's a good idea.	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	and in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/1c1148c4bbd7cdb794586ad36d25b517/tumblr_nvehzidGqT1tsn8x4o2_400.gif	[14:14]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1FEKUrP )	[14:14]
ascii_field	'The police major—perhaps in mind of the nationwide spate of police killings by thugs—decided to speak to this loitering person. The content of the conversation is not yet known. The cop did tell the idiot to show his hands. The idiot refused to show his empty hands. The cop shot him in the leg—I bet that shit hurt! The major then took off his own belt and used it as a tourniquet and the last I heard the boy bl	[14:17]
ascii_field	under was in stable condition. The major is on administrative leave.' << as far as i can tell, it was the 'rats' who escalated from clubs and knives to pistols, over ~50 yrs., in the police-vs-rats warz	[14:17]
ascii_field	at one point, it was understood (at least by urbanites) in usa that killing a cop means the electric chair first and questions later.	[14:18]
ascii_field	it is interesting to watch old films and see things like people going quietly to police station when asked, politely !	[14:19]
ascii_field	or ru films where a murder suspect is not even in handcuffs!	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	at that point, it was still the usa.	[14:19]
ascii_field	(believe! this was sop.)	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	;;google define aferation	[14:24]
gribble	Aferrar - Diccionario de español / Spanish Dictionary: ; aferrar - Diccionario Inglés-Español WordReference.com: ; The lJniversity of lTarwick - Department of Computer Science:	[14:24]
mircea_popescu	srsly ?	[14:24]
mircea_popescu	dude this internet was made by retards.	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	aferation is an english,	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	word.	[14:25]
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mircea_popescu	it used to be latin, affero, where it meant to bring (ferry comes from the same fero root). it moved into french, where it meant to take over. it then slowly moved into a more figurative "to give oneself the airs of an office one does not yet have", at which point it moved into english, "to give oneself airs".	[14:29]
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mats	http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/derbycon5/mainlist	[14:44]
assbot	Derbycon 2015 Videos (Hacking Illustrated Series InfoSec Tutorial Videos) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCYcA3 )	[14:44]
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punkman	mats, any picks?	[14:48]
mats	the movfuscator talk is good, although i think you've already looked at the writeup	[14:53]
mats	the wmi talk covered some stuff i haven't seen before	[14:53]
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mats	fun fact: an 'Untrusted' process can use a bug in COM impersonation with WMI to escalate to 'High Integrity'	[14:59]
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thestringpuller	https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3mztro/how_bitcoin_died_a_report_from_2025/ << l0lz. Bitcoin seems to illuminate the stupid for what they are.	[15:10]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288746 << gimme my five minutes back.	[15:27]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 18:08:55; thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3mztro/how_bitcoin_died_a_report_from_2025/ << l0lz. Bitcoin seems to illuminate the stupid for what they are.	[15:27]
ascii_field	(ok, 30 sec)	[15:27]
ascii_field	what a waste of electron.	[15:27]
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thestringpuller	https://nick-black.com/dankwiki/index.php/Nuclear_weapons << maybe this can make up for it	[15:32]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: 'Since 2001-09-11, great stocks of (unclassified) information have been purged from US government sites. Various fellow travelers (see below) maintain partial archives. Relevant conference proceedings (high-density physics, etc) get snapped up on used book sites quickly.' << learn ru.	[15:33]
ascii_field	problem solved.	[15:33]
ascii_field	srsly.	[15:33]
ascii_field	'My recommendations are to follow The Making of the Atomic Bomb and The Los Alamos Primer (see "Books", below) with a few nuclear engineering and physics texts, at which point you'll be well-equipped to daydream about your own neutron initiator ideas and radical implosion symmetries. ' << without exception engl. language material is crawling with deliberate and potentially lethal disinfo, on this and many other subjects.	[15:33]
ascii_field	this was conscious and engineered.	[15:34]
thestringpuller	"Don't be afraid to search through Russian papers; once you need to (you'll know when), they're sufficiently mathematically dense that you can follow along. The words are mainly just transitions anyway."	[15:34]
ascii_field	don't use the engl. translations of these, either.	[15:34]
ascii_field	verdict re: site: EOL snore.	[15:35]
thestringpuller	https://nick-black.com/dankwiki/images/0/08/Ahmadinejad.jpg << you have to admit that's funny	[15:35]
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thestringpuller	sorry for boring you ascii_field :(	[15:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.000685 = 11.508 BTC [+]	[15:46]
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ascii_field	just when some may have thought that it is impossible for 'kickstarter' users to get any dumber: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving	[15:52]
assbot	The Skarp Laser Razor: 21st Century Shaving by Skarp Technologies — Kickstarter ... ( http://bit.ly/1LksTS7 )	[15:52]
ascii_field	^ plausibility: approximately zero; money: $millions	[15:53]
ascii_field	addendum now has film of the sc4mz0r burning his skin with what is - bet your arse - a hot nichrome wire	[15:53]
ascii_field	but it is described as 'laser!'	[15:53]
ascii_field	for bonus revulsion, picture what this tool would ~smell~ like if it were physically possible and worked.	[15:54]
mircea_popescu	uh	[15:54]
ascii_field	when i see something like this, i cannot help but wonder if 'kickstarter' is a straight money laundry for siphoning stolen cc#	[15:54]
jurov	well.. laser depilation is a thing	[15:54]
ascii_field	jurov: pointedly not the item claimed	[15:55]
ascii_field	jurov: read the link. if you can stomach it.	[15:55]
jurov	yes i saw it, funny	[15:55]
ascii_field	perhaps the most egregious ks scam yet.	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field figured it out!	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	yes dude, most of the "investments" are that. "oops we lost the money". right.	[15:56]
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-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[15:56]
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ascii_field	there are a few indie computer games etc. sprinkled in for legitimacy	[15:57]
ascii_field	(what is it called when honest folks end up doing this duty for a chumpatron..)	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	bullock shilling ?	[15:57]
ascii_field	possible	[15:58]
ascii_field	i confess, i lack the full vocabulary to describe adequately a scamatron of this complexity.	[15:58]
mircea_popescu	in similar newds, http://41.media.tumblr.com/9b7797cf96d2ab41c4693025c2fd8ebc/tumblr_nl9v66qyvE1u4e2kko1_1280.jpg	[16:00]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Lkugjr )	[16:00]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: why, do you suppose, the passers-by look so glum ?	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	they are not aware.	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	you have no idea how clueless people in the streets of a quaint european town are.	[16:02]
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ascii_field	is there no bus for them to end up under ?	[16:02]
thestringpuller	LOL. Bitstamp is spamming me now.	[16:03]
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mircea_popescu	it's like an open air mall.	[16:03]
thestringpuller	"We haven't seen you log in awhile, can we help you with KYC? We miss you!"	[16:03]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288765 << damn. beat me to it. hilarious video btw. full of the most inept posturing and junior high classroom 'tech'	[16:04]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 18:51:14; ascii_field: just when some may have thought that it is impossible for 'kickstarter' users to get any dumber: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving	[16:04]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288363 << super read. just what i needed today :)	[16:05]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 11:12:15; deedbot-: [Trilema] How the world worked back when the world worked - http://trilema.com/2015/how-the-world-worked-back-when-the-world-worked/	[16:05]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:05]
mircea_popescu	hey pete_dushenski, what do you do in your spare time ?	[16:06]
mircea_popescu	by which i mean, when you're not here/writing on your blog etc.	[16:06]
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mats	payment processing networks are rolling out updates for 'emv' support at midnight in usa	[16:07]
ascii_field	'Starting Thursday, merchants will be held fully liable for any losses due to credit card fraud if they are not geared up for the new, more secure, chip cards. And consumers will need to change their habit of swiping their credit cards to pay: Instead, they "dip" their new cards into terminals and leave them there until the transaction is complete. That is, if the retailer they're shopping at has the necessary equipment.'	[16:08]
ascii_field	<< mega-snore.	[16:08]
ascii_field	1) merchants were ALWAYS liable	[16:09]
ascii_field	2) the new cards are BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE for www purchases and equally scammable	[16:09]
ascii_field	(can use the cc # to buy)	[16:09]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu property manager of a small, older commercial building that my father owns. 6 tenants, 100 occupants, fun little project. also manage two residential properties. also manage a small start-up in the construction materials space, we make the first/only/bestest fibreglass composite curtain wall framing. and then there's the little one. le petit monstre...	[16:09]
mats	if you have plans to buy things with your credit card tomorrow, should prob do it today, processing networks will be intermittently down	[16:09]
mircea_popescu	here's the thing in my head : b-a is by now at a stage where it kinda needs its own pr agency. and you might be just the asshole to do that, if you swing that way. do you swing that way ?	[16:10]
thestringpuller	mats: is this national?	[16:10]
mats	yes	[16:10]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: pr agency, l0l! isn't that what moiety starved doing ?	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	no.	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	she starved doing the very scared of bombs secretary brit girl.	[16:10]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu how do you imagine this agency working ?	[16:11]
pete_dushenski	i'm at essentially no risk of starvation, ftr.	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	and the process of her starvation was that she starved on her own devices, b-a got her a place to stay and then she ran off.	[16:11]
ascii_field	iirc pete_dushenski even sleeps ad libitum	[16:11]
pete_dushenski	even with infant, i do indeed	[16:11]
ascii_field	just the man for a 'Men wanted for hazardous journey. Low wages, bitter cold, long hours of complete darkness. Safe return doubtful. Honour and recognition in event of success.'	[16:12]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski a pr agency is in this day and age a very simple affair, but somewhat time consuming. in principle, it can be reduced to a lone dude with an internet connection and two lists. one, longer, of useful social media derps. the sort that are willing to do the hard work of upvoting, derping on reddit, etc. the other, sadly shorter, of actual important people can talk to directly. like say "all newspaper column	[16:12]
mircea_popescu	ists in so and so".	[16:12]
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mircea_popescu	building these is not particularly difficult,. but it takes time. more importantly, it takes determination. and the sort of attitude of the guy that hey, the managers don't wanna see, but since the phone is here...	[16:12]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: can't resist the question, what is the point of having the first of the lists ?	[16:13]
mircea_popescu	faux "consensus" building.	[16:13]
mircea_popescu	you know, like reddit all agreed that XT is gonna take over.	[16:13]
*	ascii_field was under the impression that this is a waste of time	[16:13]
ascii_field	at least as per mircea_popescutronic theory	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	depends for whom. why allow the pinoys to make this money ?	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	starve the enemy throughout.	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	denial is a valid strategy.	[16:14]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: how is this any different than marketing?	[16:16]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu i believe i grok the first list - straightforward enough really, compile those on 'social media' on 'our side' and focus their energies accordingly - it's the second list i'm less clear about.	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski arrington's success, you have to understand, is very little more than this. it's not a difficult recipe to read or follow. it just takes the hard worker to execute.	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	one could argue that jobs genius is altogether not much above this either.	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski no, it's more like, spend all your time on fiverr and craigslist and wherever the hungry congregate, spend a little money buying their ample time.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	nobody gives a shit about extant social media accounts. their value is not even a fractrion of the work they put in	[16:17]
ascii_field	notice how dog sleds exist, but not rat sleds.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	what you want is shannonizing meatrobots, capable of pouring out more nonsense. they're cheaper than the electric type, as of yet.	[16:17]
pete_dushenski	aha. so basically #1 is fighting fire with fire.	[16:17]
ascii_field	or chicken sleds.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field every circus worth its name has a flea sled.	[16:18]
BingoBoingo	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288460 << Ferguson is in a Considers arresting USG state	[16:18]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 15:09:25; ascii_field: ferguson, for instance, is not in md.	[16:18]
ascii_field	flea sled is great so long as it is not expected to go anywhere in particular.	[16:18]
ascii_field	or carry anything.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo yeah, i figured he had me when he said that :p	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field which it isn't.	[16:19]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu and #2 is a list of journalists who may require quotes from time to time, which i would then provide directly or send them here to ask b-a directly ?	[16:19]
ascii_field	then beautiful.	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski as to the 2nd list : you want to build raport with those people. make a habit of taking one to lunch every week, if at all possible.	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	(very fucking possible, they travel on starvation budgets)	[16:20]
pete_dushenski	not to put too fine a point on it, but when and how is 'finance' or 'tech' journalist coming to buttfuck edmonton ? afaik they stay at home, work in nyc, or go to 'conpherences'	[16:22]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu but that's really just a practical matter, there are other ways to build rapport. the bigger question is 'why a pr agency' and 'why now?'	[16:24]
pete_dushenski	it's surely more than just a make work project for me in your mind	[16:24]
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mircea_popescu	you familiar with all the alf parachute talk ?	[16:28]
pete_dushenski	don't wait until you're falling from plane to build parachute ?	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	that stuff. and besides, YOU travel now and again don't you ?	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	you'll be going to a lot more conferences i guess.	[16:28]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu i certainly traveled plenty pre-monstre, though this will be decidedly diminished for at least 6-12 months. also, such trips only once coincided with a conpherence. going forward, as most traveling i do is personal touristing, these are unlikely to coincide again.	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	because why ?	[16:33]
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pete_dushenski	furthermore, the expense of just taking trips to conpherenes seems prohibitive	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	besides, i wouldn't expect this to get anywhere within 12 months. if it does within 36 i'll be impressed.	[16:33]
pete_dushenski	well that's all you needed to say :)	[16:33]
pete_dushenski	if 36 months is mp='impressed', then 48='so-so' and longer than that is 'pete wasn't the right man for the job'	[16:35]
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mircea_popescu	haha time doesn't scale. but anyway, for it to exist in three years you'll be spending a lot of time on it throughout	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	this is one of those things "anyone" could do except anyone is a socially awkward fuck and anyone lacks the focus and discipline for doing thigns more complex than microwaving.	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	but other than that, anyone could do it!	[16:36]
pete_dushenski	this may well be the right kind of b-a 'contribution' for me, given that i can't code worth a damn.	[16:37]
pete_dushenski	ima mull it over and research a little further into this 'pr' business	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	the only true drawback is that unlike real estate, this is a constant maintenance racket. everything you have at any point won't be useful in 5 years, or even 3. things move too fast. so its not one of those "do this right once it's done forever" stories like alf likes. it's more of a "hold this lamp up".	[16:38]
pete_dushenski	that does sound a bit annoying	[16:38]
pete_dushenski	i quite enjoy my time for reading, writing, etc... hmm.	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	don't use up old age activities while you're young.	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	you don't have the same options once you're in a retirement home.	[16:39]
pete_dushenski	and ftr i'm nowhere near as speedy at these enjoyable activities as mp	[16:39]
pete_dushenski	they take considerable time	[16:40]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu this is a point.	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	i'm not speedy, i'm just existing on multiple planes at the same time is all.	[16:40]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu's advice is good except in the cases of folks who don't expect to live to retire	[16:40]
pete_dushenski	l0lk	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[16:40]
pete_dushenski	eg. cynics from the pale.	[16:41]
pete_dushenski	i mean realists !!	[16:41]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/living-in-strategic-denial/article/2569150	[16:50]
assbot	Living in strategic denial \| Washington Examiner ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhWynb )	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	check out what exists in washington!	[16:50]
thestringpuller	;;google doherty threshold	[16:52]
gribble	IBM: The Economic Value of Rapid Response Time: ; Doherty Threshold - Halt and Catch Fire Wiki: ; TIL about the Doherty Threshold: < 400ms response time addicting ...: (1 more message)	[16:52]
ascii_field	aaaaand we cut to the chase,	[16:53]
ascii_field	'To keep America's enemies from running up the score further, Obama will have to take more expansive military actions and increase defense spending. Perhaps Obama will come to realize this truth before he leaves office, as Jimmy Carter did in his last year. '	[16:53]
thestringpuller	!s doherty threshold	[16:53]
assbot	0 results for 'doherty threshold' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=doherty+threshold	[16:53]
ascii_field	i.e. cheap shilling for 'lockheed', 'raytheon', et al.	[16:53]
BingoBoingo	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288585 << Third verse is best verse. Country went downhill when it was dropped.	[16:54]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field what, you spotted raytheon pr ?	[16:55]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: 'increase defense spending' in usa is dog whistle for 'moar f35 plz'	[16:55]
ascii_field	considering that, without exception, it - and similar - is where the money goes.	[16:56]
ascii_field	not to buy new boots for trigger-pullers, no.	[16:56]
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mircea_popescu	you know how this clarity media device works right ?	[16:56]
ascii_field	?	[16:56]
mircea_popescu	they do a sort of curated "pro-am" blog network. claim 3k new articles a day.	[16:57]
ascii_field	l0l raytheon ad actually visible on this www !	[16:57]
ascii_field	i did not even notice it.	[16:57]
ascii_field	no less than TWO OF THEM	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	it's a sort of wikipedia meets that old women selling pots thing, i forget what it's called.	[16:58]
ascii_field	identical.	[16:58]
ascii_field	'tupperware	[16:58]
ascii_field	'	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	a right	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	anyway, it's a good model for it's market (middle america!!11), that enchanted fargo where meryl streep still falls in love with clint eastwood every late summer.	[17:02]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: the depth of the contempt that the herders show for this particular variety of sheep is astonishing imho	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	how do you count ?	[17:03]
ascii_field	e.g., 'How Not to Make Planned Parenthood Squirm'	[17:05]
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ascii_field	or, 'What happens to schools in case of a shutdown?'	[17:06]
ascii_field	^ anyone with half a neuron in usa knows that schools have nothing directly to do with the fed. gov.	[17:06]
ascii_field	but this site is not angled at folks having this half a neuron or more	[17:06]
ascii_field	and in this way is ~entirely~ typical for 'right wing usa'	[17:06]
ascii_field	in the british world, 'daily mail' plays same role.	[17:08]
*	mircea_popescu tends to remember obama goons trying to "close down parks" because hey.	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	apparently trees standing also have something to do with the inept government.	[17:10]
ascii_field	this is at least partly engineered for the purpose of reminding the more uppity members of the public that 'if you want to oppose transgendered studies scholarships, fine, but you will do so in the company of people who believe that cancer is caused by demons'	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	irrespective.	[17:11]
ascii_field	see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260662	[17:12]
assbot	Logged on 03-09-2015 02:08:18; mircea_popescu: the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident.	[17:12]
mircea_popescu	but this isn't a market.	[17:12]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu another 'pr' pregunta : how do you see it being funded given that there's more than just time required ?	[17:12]
ascii_field	similarly, it is made clear that if you wish to oppose some particular usgism, you can do so in the company of impotent flat-earther twerps to your heart's content	[17:12]
pete_dushenski	bbias. crying !	[17:13]
pete_dushenski	(not my crying)	[17:13]
ascii_field	it is what 'fox news', for instance, is made for.	[17:13]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski you get clients, work on their projects. like anyone else.	[17:13]
mircea_popescu	this theory is unpersuasive.	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	it's like "water's own weight will keep the water up".	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	sure, for as long as you got an igloo.	[17:14]
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mircea_popescu	in general any company is better than usg company by now, and consequently this approach, if it ever was seriously entertained, fails.	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	cool jurov	[17:14]
ascii_field	no, not any.	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	now for chat in eulora ? :D	[17:15]
ascii_field	the designated zoo of impotence is a dead end.	[17:15]
ascii_field	it is same usg, but a special holding pen therein.	[17:15]
ascii_field	lipsticked up to be somehow superficially 'opposition'	[17:15]
ascii_field	a la zhirinovsky in late su.	[17:15]
jurov	in other news, it may turn out my recent mental stupor was primarily not due to allergy, but lithium deficiency	[17:18]
jurov	started taking a mineral water for this, seems to have improved, will see	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	that's a thing ?	[17:19]
ascii_field	^	[17:19]
ascii_field	was about to say	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	i wasn't aware there's a lithium biological carry.	[17:19]
jurov	i'm as sceptical as anyone. but it wa desperate	[17:19]
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mircea_popescu	zinc maybe. various other rare metals.	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	but anyway.	[17:19]
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jurov	it was pointedly not a zinc, i was taking that one for some time	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	aok	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	general population is usually zinc deprived, and as a result most infections are drastically ameliorated by a little zinc intake	[17:22]
pete_dushenski	;;google sources of dietary zinc	[17:25]
gribble	zinc - The World's Healthiest Foods: ; Zinc — Health Professional Fact Sheet - Office of Dietary Supplements: ; Top 10 Foods Highest in Zinc - HealthAliciousNess . com:	[17:25]
mircea_popescu	http://freebeacon.com/national-security/phony-ambassador-running-obamas-anti-islamic-state-diplomacy/ << in other lulz.	[17:25]
assbot	Phony Ambassador Running Obama's Anti-Islamic State Diplomacy - Washington Free Beacon ... ( http://bit.ly/1VroVGD )	[17:25]
mircea_popescu	obama now appoints his own ambassadors, senate rubberstamp too expensive.	[17:25]
pete_dushenski	#7: Cocoa and Chocolate (Cocoa Powder) << maybe this is why i've been craving hot chocolate the last month or so.	[17:26]
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ascii_field	eh, jimmy carter 'practiced diplomacy without a license' for decades.	[17:26]
ascii_field	no jail.	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	"Until last night when the Free Beacon contacted the State Department to inquire about the discrepancy, McGurk’s official biography on the State Department website also falsely credited McGurk with the rank of ambassador."	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	lulzy.	[17:26]
ascii_field	'rule of law' is for plebes	[17:26]
ascii_field	in usa as in su.	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	ftr Gina Chon is kinda hot.	[17:27]
pete_dushenski	http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/sports/football/As-Worries-Rise-and-Players-Flee-a-Missouri-School-Board-Cuts-Football.html << i was expecting 'due to funding' but it's actually 'due to lack of players' !	[17:30]
assbot	Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vrp9gU )	[17:30]
pete_dushenski	why don't kids want to play this popular usian sport ? injuries.	[17:30]
pete_dushenski	safety.	[17:31]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Yeah that started last year.	[17:31]
pete_dushenski	these kids are worse than their mothers !	[17:31]
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pete_dushenski	i guess compared to being on your phone twixting your assistant prof, anything is dangerous	[17:31]
thestringpuller	the lifespan of a football player's career is fairly small	[17:32]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo frankly, good on 'em	[17:32]
pete_dushenski	thestringpuller exactly that. and when they're done, they're done like dinner	[17:32]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: The sport really isn't for rich kids from Maplewood anyways.	[17:32]
thestringpuller	^they play tennis	[17:33]
thestringpuller	and sometimes golf	[17:33]
pete_dushenski	country club sports. as you do.	[17:33]
thestringpuller	I would expect the midwest to have baseball as the top sport.	[17:33]
phf	mircea_popescu: you know it was just b-a of the 1800s. << i think of b-a as more of a stonemasone guild, then a fraternity. maybe in a couple of hundred years when b-a has hereditary wot ratings and ceremonial pgp keys that are not otherwise used for anything. the way i read that joke is that one has the trappings and the other has a trowel that is used for its direct purpose.	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	i dun think i'd encourage any kid to play "professional" school sports. they don't get paid (no, 'scholarship' is not pay like coupons are not refunds) ; b) it's really fucking unhealthy. i mean being in shape is one thing. being "an athlete" is about as unhealthy as being a diabethic.	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	phf well sure.	[17:34]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu has it. and for sporty types, last i checked, there ~were~ sports that don't guarantee braindamage	[17:34]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: unhealthy mentally maybe, but all the athletes I know are physically fit like no other.	[17:34]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu being 'an athelete' is indeed a dangerous and unhealthful proposition.	[17:35]
ascii_field	i have always seen american football as emblematic of usian anti-intellectualism. glorifying concussions, yes.	[17:35]
pete_dushenski	thestringpuller you ~look~ vigorous and strong, but are as fragile as they come.	[17:35]
ascii_field	not a real sport unless brain leaks from ears, nose.	[17:35]
ascii_field	if you ask american.	[17:35]
pete_dushenski	'can do X excellently but can't tie shoelaces w/o tearing acl'	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	trinque we need that jobs board yo, teh cup runneth fulleth.	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	then pete_dushenski can take as his first project promoting the jobs board :D	[17:35]
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mircea_popescu	thestringpuller give them a decade until all the hair bone cracks and microtorn ligaments start acting up	[17:36]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu (jobs board) that! (scars of 'athleticism') that again!	[17:37]
pete_dushenski	then again, there aren't many avenues for teaching mental toughness and discipline outside of sports in north america	[17:38]
pete_dushenski	unless i'm being insufficiently creative	[17:38]
pete_dushenski	still a hard trade-off to made : mental for physical	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	and in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/4604d880d504b6a49e4ad43b9bfeeaa8/tumblr_nlosxph2rz1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg	[17:38]
pete_dushenski	make*	[17:38]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1VrpyQx )	[17:38]
thestringpuller	pete_dushenski:	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski so teach em to ride a horse.	[17:39]
pete_dushenski	lol wouldn't that be an idea	[17:40]
thestringpuller	pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu maybe for contact sports. But the runners are like one step from being a robot.	[17:40]
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mircea_popescu	they're still pushing it too hard. not as dangerous in running, sure. but school performance is running the 100meters in fifteen seconds, not trying for eight.	[17:41]
pete_dushenski	well it's our first date afternoon/evening, both free from le petit monstre, so i'm off. cheers !!	[17:43]
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BingoBoingo	i have always seen american football as emblematic of usian anti-intellectualism. glorifying concussions, yes. << It's a tournament, or more a lottery market deal. It's for the poor kids to fight for the chance to make all the money they'll be able to for four years after the drop out of college in teir senior year	[17:44]
BingoBoingo	"Opportunity" and all those buzzwords	[17:45]
BingoBoingo	Then they build a mythology about how Maximum Concussion Sport is the epitome of Opportunity and the chance to earn your own social justice.	[17:46]
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BingoBoingo	Canada does this too with Hockey.	[17:46]
phf	ascii_field: or ru films where a murder suspect is not even in handcuffs! << aha "На Севере, на его участках лесных Пеле и Мыке, Вае и Ветрянке, заключенные при перегоне (заключенные ведь не ходят, их «гоняют», это официальный словарь) требовали связать руки за спиной, чтоб конвой не мог в	[17:50]
phf	подвергались смертельной опасности. «Убитых при попытке к бегству» было очень много."	[17:50]
BingoBoingo	The big problem with American Football is that it is actually a combat sport, but a polite consensus has developed around not referring to it as such	[17:51]
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mircea_popescu	lafond has a pretty good point re the "yo mamma's gonna cash out on being the mother of a got-shot".	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	this is like that except with less shot. technically a step up	[17:53]
BingoBoingo	At least boxing was more honest about the crippling yourself for others amusement there. If you work hard enough and get good enough your head doesn't get hit as much. American football hitting your head against things is kinda mandatory.	[17:57]
BingoBoingo	Recently they've been introducing new rules to football to penalize you from hitting otherpeople's heads in certain ways, but hitting your head is still mandatory.	[17:58]
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mircea_popescu	the head being actually a more advantageous place to be hit in than the liver, yeah you get hit.	[18:00]
trinque	mircea_popescu \| trinque we need that jobs board yo, teh cup runneth fulleth. << indeed! I estimate having something usable by the end of next weekend	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	btw, you ever saw that incredible fight where romania's best boxer was totally gutted ?	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	splendeed trinque	[18:00]
BingoBoingo	I don't think I have	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	;;google doroftei gatti	[18:01]
gribble	Arturo Gatti v Leonard Dorin - YouTube: ; DOROFTEI KO - YouTube: ; Arturo Gatti vs Leonard Dorin [Full Fight] - YouTube:	[18:01]
*	mircea_popescu still recalls the shock of that.	[18:02]
BingoBoingo	Related http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/generals-sought-more-positive-coverage-document-shows.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0	[18:11]
assbot	Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4Fcjm )	[18:11]
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phf	https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/09/30/everyone-you-know-will-be-able-to-rate-you-on-the-terrifying-yelp-for-people-whether-you-want-them-to-or-not/	[18:37]
assbot	Everyone you know will be able to rate you on the terrifying ‘Yelp for people’ — whether you want them to or not - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1RgDFYj )	[18:37]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[18:39]
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ascii_field	libelomatic.	[18:39]
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BingoBoingo	Linked from the libelotron piece https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/09/24/i-tried-out-cuddlr-the-tinder-for-cuddling-and-all-i-got-was-severely-creeped-out/	[18:44]
assbot	I tried out Cuddlr, the ‘Tinder for cuddling,’ and all I got was severely creeped out - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkPMVl )	[18:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00067813 = 10.7145 BTC [-]	[18:44]
trinque	;;later tell funkenstein sadly, new parser ripped up your last deed. happily, the part it ingested included the signature. I've since sent the whole thing back through, and it should pop out shortly.	[18:48]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:48]
trinque	I will keep the torn-off signature up there under block 376696.	[18:49]
trinque	it seems that ply parsers are one-shot, or I've missed something. So far my observation is that if you call parse successively on the same parser object, it misbehaves	[18:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14395 @ 0.000685 = 9.8606 BTC [+]	[18:52]
BingoBoingo	Fuck Yes http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/pinkel-confirms-lock-will-start-vs-gamecocks/article_bd300dc7-de03-577a-bc07-05ac470c16ac.html	[18:58]
assbot	Pinkel confirms Lock will start vs. Gamecocks : Sports ... ( http://bit.ly/1RgFogk )	[18:58]
BingoBoingo	Following from http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2015/9/29/dear-gary-make-us-care/	[19:01]
assbot	Please Gary: Do the right thing – The Maneater ... ( http://bit.ly/1RgFIeW )	[19:02]
*	ascii_field would rather read his spam box than anything pertaining to football, and doesn't foresee this ever changing	[19:03]
punkman	trinque: well you can't get nested structures by parsing the same string twice, it's gotta go in the grammar?	[19:05]
trinque	punkman: grammar wasn't the problem, as I did not change it to fix his deed	[19:06]
trinque	just started instantiating whatever ply object it is every time I go to parse	[19:07]
trinque	seems stupid, yet I don't have the time currently to discover why	[19:07]
trinque	grammar's just looking for headers, footers, and whatever	[19:07]
BingoBoingo	* ascii_field would rather read his spam box than anything pertaining to football, and doesn't foresee this ever changing << Oh just highlighting the other aspect, something not meaningful which people are directed to rage about instead of their cattle pen	[19:08]
ascii_field	phun phakt: i was once told, by a reliable source, that RAND corp., in its glory days, would NOT hire any man who confessed to taking an interest in football.	[19:09]
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BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field	[19:11]
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BingoBoingo	In its glory days football was not the monster it is at present	[19:11]
ascii_field	and yet !	[19:11]
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BingoBoingo	Now http://www.rand.org/blog/2014/11/adults-are-concerned-about-sons-playing-football-especially.html	[19:13]
assbot	Adults Are Concerned About Sons Playing Football, Especially the More Highly Educated and Obama 2012 Voters \| RAND ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkTQoC )	[19:13]
BingoBoingo	Now RAND Copro cares	[19:13]
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cazalla	if i was american, i think i'd rather choose brain damage in sports over video games and ham planeting for my kids	[19:16]
mats	vidya games are how i got into programming	[19:30]
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mats	skywing (ken johnson, guy that patented 'aslr') reversed the battle.net login protocol, and i used his documentation to write a chat client so i didn't have to keep starcraft open to maintain ops in a channel	[19:34]
cazalla	yeah but for every one of you mats there is a million hamplanets playing cod, much better to be outside playing football (sure, watching is boring, but playing?)	[19:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14753 @ 0.000685 = 10.1058 BTC [+]	[19:40]
mats	sure, just wanted to share	[19:41]
mats	folks that've read 'Uninformed' might recognize ken from his RE work on patchguard	[19:45]
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mats	http://poppopret.org/2013/12/18/reverse-engineering-a-furby	[19:49]
assbot	Reverse Engineering a Furby \| Michael Coppola's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkYL96 )	[19:49]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1289073 << take up a dog or cat then - far better than footballer kid.	[20:53]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 22:14:53; cazalla: if i was american, i think i'd rather choose brain damage in sports over video games and ham planeting for my kids	[20:53]
asciilifeform	nor does football or not have anything causal to do with 'becoming hamplanet' (it is virtually impossible without 'fast food')	[20:55]
BingoBoingo	Or guide the kid into tennis et al	[20:55]
asciilifeform	'hamplanet' as i understand is a mark of rancid, unrepentant, irremediable... spiritual poverty - rather than lack of physical exercise as such	[20:56]
BingoBoingo	'hamplanet' as i understand is a mark of rancid, unrepentant, irremediable... spiritual poverty - rather than lack of physical exercise as such << Pretty much	[20:56]
BingoBoingo	Though former footballers often fall into the spiritual poverty of hamplanetary orbit after their "career" ends	[20:57]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to drop under $190 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1210/bitcoin-to-drop-under-190-before-jan-2016/#b5	[20:57]
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deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Rand Paul will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee - http://bitbet.us/bet/1208/rand-paul-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/#b11	[21:01]
BingoBoingo	The unnatural dietary and chemical excesses involved in high level football, when you remove the atheletics and chemical excesses amount to hamplanetary fast food consumption.	[21:02]
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BingoBoingo	The hamplanetary lack of physical activity goes beyond lack of physical exercise to lack of ordinary human movement. i.e. using scooty puffs at the Walmart to navigate aisles instead of their own feet.	[21:06]
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BingoBoingo	It is the physical manifestation of the spiritual and intellectual poverty affecting the US and reddit generally	[21:09]
Naphex	oh Hearn got banned from #b-dev	[21:13]
asciilifeform	l0l!! what's it take to get booted from a leper colony !	[21:14]
Naphex	jgarzik even tried too cry a river over it	[21:15]
asciilifeform	link? (they have log, don't they..?)	[21:16]
Naphex	http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/09/29	[21:17]
assbot	BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1P6ceBe )	[21:17]
asciilifeform	;;later tell mircea_popescu what do you think of the notion of no longer relaying shitgnomatic tx-en - e.g., ANYTHING with 'soft fork' bits set, etc. ?	[21:20]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:20]
asciilifeform	this'd be the ultimate 'vote with nodes', aha	[21:22]
asciilifeform	'use actual bitcoin or fuck off', roughly.	[21:22]
phf	in philly i know a handful of "linebacker in college", who got "just a little bit out of shape", i.e. where former muscle if there was ever any all got turned into fat. that's people who are, when drunk, prone to challenging each other and me when i'm there to various acts of physical fitness, usually to fail miserably.	[21:22]
phf	all die hard eagles fans of course	[21:23]
asciilifeform	http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/09/29#l1443550863.0 << l0l! same 'linux foundation' mircea_popescu has a fatwa out against ?!	[21:26]
assbot	BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1P6cMqP )	[21:26]
BingoBoingo	phf: Linebackers tend to start out kinda fat already.	[21:46]
VariaVarietatis	;;later tell pete_dushenski I'd be willing to help with the PR.	[22:03]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[22:03]
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cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1289083 <<< dog or cat is not a sport nor competitive endeavour and given we no longer go out and hunt as a group, it's the next best thing for kids to learn how to follow a leader, work with others, learn from other men how to be masculine, physically and mentally challenge others	[22:20]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 23:52:21; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1289073 << take up a dog or cat then - far better than footballer kid.	[22:20]
cazalla	obviously doesn't have to be football, but if that's the american past time, then let them play football	[22:21]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1289087 <<< what's this.. fat but fit, healthy at any weight meme? i think it more likely that a physically active person is not going to be a hamplanet.. obviously the lack of real food is a problem but only part of the problem	[22:24]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 23:54:38; asciilifeform: 'hamplanet' as i understand is a mark of rancid, unrepentant, irremediable... spiritual poverty - rather than lack of physical exercise as such	[22:24]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: Many heavier people like Prince Fielder and linebackers are well exercised with some extra adipose tissue. Hamplanet chooses to utilize adipose tissue as a fortress for their spiritual poverty.	[22:26]
cazalla	i guess it doesn't matter anyway as american kids are now trans gender fags so you would have difficulty filling a football team full of boys who actually want to pummel the other team	[22:28]
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adlai	deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0RFBXMV.txt	[22:32]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[22:32]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1O90T47 )	[22:32]
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btcdrak	https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n18en/mike_hearn_banned_from_bitcoindev_sept29/	[22:35]
assbot	Mike Hearn banned from #bitcoin-dev Sept/29 : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHEo39 )	[22:35]
btcdrak	That thread is hilarious	[22:35]
btcdrak	looks like people are beginning to see past the veil...	[22:36]
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BingoBoingo	Sweet	[22:42]
BingoBoingo	!up brg444	[22:42]
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brg444	huh, about linebackers, I was under the impression they are all pretty much physical specimen	[22:49]
brg444	at least pro level linebackers are	[22:50]
brg444	re:hearn forking himself off #b-dev : hilarious	[22:50]
brg444	dude is about on the verge of claiming he's Satoshi	[22:50]
BingoBoingo	brg444: Pro sure. College they tend to keep a little extra adipose weight on for the blocking potential	[22:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00068403 = 11.7995 BTC [+]	[22:51]
BingoBoingo	Then after college it often takes a couple years to get up to weight at a lean "pro" weight	[22:51]
brg444	and typically don't have access to NFL level strength training	[22:52]
BingoBoingo	Or the time. They can grow a lot of strength over the four years of college, but often they need more injury free time.	[22:53]
brg444	Don't think this can be generalized	[22:54]
brg444	lots of time they have to bulk up as well	[22:54]
BingoBoingo	Yeah	[22:54]
BingoBoingo	But bulking muscle takes years as opposed to weeks bulking adipose does.	[22:55]
BingoBoingo	In the college games schools like Bama tend to horde the genetic freaks who can pack on pro-level muscle over the college career.	[22:55]
brg444	was about to say: depends on the athlete indeed	[22:56]
BingoBoingo	And LSU has a tendency to catch shorter genetic freaks that do the same, but due to height slot into running back	[22:56]
phf	lsu?	[22:56]
brg444	baton rouge	[22:56]
phf	oh i see	[22:57]
brg444	BingoBoingo: these days some of these kids come with pro level muscle in HS though :/	[22:58]
BingoBoingo	Yes they do. Mizzou was luck to snag Terry Beckner Jr. this year. Giant from East Saint Louis. No need to redshirt him.	[22:59]
brg444	see Fournette most recently	[22:59]
brg444	freaky	[22:59]
BingoBoingo	Fournette is... prolly getting the Heisman	[22:59]
brg444	likely, thought Chubb would have a chance but at this point..	[23:00]
BingoBoingo	Chubb is handicapped by playing for Georgia which is going to have 1 or 2 embarrassing losses as is Georgia tradition.	[23:01]
brg444	he a sophomore too right?	[23:02]
BingoBoingo	Maybe?	[23:03]
BingoBoingo	When Mizzou plays Georgia this year I'm hoping we can just aim Beckner Jr. at him all game.	[23:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32800 @ 0.00068351 = 22.4191 BTC [-] {3}	[23:04]
BingoBoingo	But at least fucking Mauk is suspended 1 game.	[23:06]
brg444	What's up with the SEC though :D:D	[23:07]
BingoBoingo	I dunno. West other than Arkansas and Auburn looking good. Prolly Ole Miss or LSU to win the conference. East as it usually is is a mystery until the last day of play.	[23:12]
BingoBoingo	At least Mizzou swept its non-conference schedule	[23:12]
BingoBoingo	In other news, state of the art in American Fast Food innovation "priority" seating http://imageham.com/images/2015/09/30/imageab1b4.jpg	[23:14]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GiLPcb )	[23:14]
brg444	I'm generally bored w/ football so far this season, most NFL teams are terrible	[23:16]
brg444	don't see the need for these "priority"	[23:17]
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brg444	who'd shame themselves "dining" in at these places	[23:18]
BingoBoingo	Hamplanets in their spiritual poverty.	[23:20]
BingoBoingo	I'm generally bored w/ football so far this season, most NFL teams are terrible << I hope the NFL leaves St Louis.	[23:20]
brg444	the Hearnia is really sore, this is good	[23:25]
BingoBoingo	lol	[23:25]
brg444	of course he'd claim he fucking created SPV, wouldn't expect anything else of him	[23:26]
BingoBoingo	The Hearnia can likely in this case be treated non-surgically with a Truss	[23:27]
BingoBoingo	Old school style	[23:27]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/inguinal-hernia/expert-answers/hernia-truss/faq-20058111	[23:27]
assbot	Hernia truss: Can it help an inguinal hernia? - Mayo Clinic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vopeal )	[23:27]
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brg444	wouldn't help with the kick in the balls he's gonna continue to get until he dares no more to show his face	[23:28]
brg444	i say we just be done with the whole area there. not that there'd be much to remove	[23:29]
brg444	do away I should say*	[23:30]
BingoBoingo	Well, he's prolly been kicked there to the point of torsion	[23:30]
brg444	still amazes me someone out there can turn on/off nearly 100,000,000 GH/S with the flick of a wrist	[23:38]
BingoBoingo	Not really.	[23:42]
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brg444	no?	[23:46]
BingoBoingo	Not at all.	[23:49]
BingoBoingo	Some miners have to pay for electricity.	[23:50]
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BingoBoingo	!up DreadKnight	[23:54]
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BingoBoingo	!up TomServo	[23:54]
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brg444	how is it that these variance seem coordinated by one or small group of actors? and if they do control that much hashing why would they have to pay for electricity	[23:55]
brg444	or maybe I'm just reading too much into a couple of charts...	[23:56]
BingoBoingo	Maybe reading too much. Maybe finding a trend.	[23:57]
BingoBoingo	But generally except for a few lucky chinese miners, the farms have to pay for electricity	[23:58]
mod6	http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-October/000169.html	[23:59]
assbot	[BTC-dev] The Bitcoin Foundation: STATE OF BITCOIN ADDRESS ... ( http://bit.ly/1YPOq8V )	[23:59]

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