Forum logs for 30 Jan 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0489999 = 0.147 BTC [+]	[00:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00639998 = 0.2304 BTC [+]	[00:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 318 @ 0.00639999 = 2.0352 BTC [+]	[00:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00649588 = 0.4742 BTC [+] {5}	[00:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00639998 = 1.28 BTC [-]	[00:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00639998 = 0.64 BTC [-]	[00:28]
kakobrekla	ah well, part of learning process, mistakes that is.	[00:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.62223306 = 5.6001 BTC [-] {6}	[00:30]
kakobrekla	with bitcoin, the sooner you go through it, the better.	[00:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.6001 = 4.8008 BTC [-]	[00:31]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58455 @ 0.00089508 = 52.3219 BTC [-] {4}	[00:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02999905 = 0.12 BTC [+]	[00:54]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.60342698 = 23.5337 BTC [+] {8}	[01:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6 = 6 BTC [-]	[01:06]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.54818464 = 18.0901 BTC [-] {11}	[01:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.501 = 3.507 BTC [-]	[01:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.49785714 = 6.97 BTC [-] {3}	[01:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.00639998 = 0.7424 BTC [-] {2}	[01:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22427 @ 0.00089682 = 20.113 BTC [+]	[01:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0060001 = 0.15 BTC [-] {4}	[01:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12790 @ 0.00089423 = 11.4372 BTC [-]	[01:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.54899 = 8.7838 BTC [+]	[01:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0057 = 0.1596 BTC [-] {3}	[01:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.54799999 = 1.096 BTC [-] {2}	[01:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4488 @ 0.00089423 = 4.0133 BTC [-]	[01:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.545 BTC [-]	[01:33]
herbijudlestoids	hmmm forgot to put a datestamp on my logger	[01:34]
herbijudlestoids	otherwise some interesting datapoints coming through already	[01:35]
kakobrekla	OMG ITS GOING TO CRASH	[01:36]
kakobrekla	anyway, i thought you went to the liquid markets?	[01:37]
herbijudlestoids	i do, like i said last night, just an idea that came to me then	[01:37]
herbijudlestoids	http://imgur.com/CkJ5kA8 <-- here is a distribution of the overnight tick returns	[01:40]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[01:40]
herbijudlestoids	quite an interesting looking formation	[01:40]
kakobrekla	whats the x axis	[01:43]
herbijudlestoids	i log normalise the return between ticks	[01:43]
herbijudlestoids	x axis is the value of those returns	[01:44]
kakobrekla	return between ticks?	[01:44]
kakobrekla	you mean price difference?	[01:44]
herbijudlestoids	its the % return if you had invested in the asset at the tick	[01:44]
herbijudlestoids	(log normalised)	[01:45]
kakobrekla	hm	[01:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0489999 = 0.196 BTC [+]	[01:45]
herbijudlestoids	its a pretty normal way to break the timeseries down in quantitative analysis, but usually at a lower resloution than per tick	[01:45]
herbijudlestoids	once i build up some data and refine my timestamping etc i will start to record 10 sec data from the ticks and then build all the lower resolutions from that high res feed	[01:46]
herbijudlestoids	so you can see, the distribution of daily returns or, the 10-tick volatility, etc	[01:47]
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herbijudlestoids	also would like to figure out if there is a diurnal pattern in the assets	[01:47]
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herbijudlestoids	i cant show you some of the other stuff iv grabbed because i didnt timestamp properly and R wont plot it nicely	[01:48]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5358664/us-government-blocks-students-in-iran-cuba-and-sudan-from-taking-free-online-classes-coursera	[01:50]
ozbot	US government blocks students in Iran, Cuba, and Sudan from taking free online classes \| The Verge	[01:50]
herbijudlestoids	:/	[01:50]
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herbijudlestoids	i need to write a script that will take the irc log output and automagic it into appropriately named, quantmod compatible mysql tables	[01:58]
herbijudlestoids	but after that i can think of all kinds of interesting things to look at	[01:58]
herbijudlestoids	futures curve, vols, trend, fundamentals, benchmark indices, etc	[01:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 11.82985793 BTC to 19`249 shares, 61457 satoshi per share	[01:59]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 1.87767096 BTC to 321`519 shares, 584 satoshi per share	[02:03]
herbijudlestoids	if i had say a year worth of EOD data could scatterplot daily returns against short term vols to see the relationship etc	[02:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC	[02:05]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54699993 BTC [+]	[02:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19322 @ 0.00089744 = 17.3403 BTC [+] {3}	[02:18]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0056931 = 0.148 BTC [-] {3}	[02:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 422 @ 0.00552412 = 2.3312 BTC [-] {15}	[02:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5448441 = 1.0897 BTC [+]	[02:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54484284 BTC [-]	[02:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.54484311 = 2.1794 BTC [+] {4}	[02:59]
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mircea_popescu	wait, so the guy got scammed ?!	[03:20]
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Apocalyptic	by the almighty serbian scammer	[03:25]
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asciilifeform	it takes two to 'scamgo.'	[03:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.545 = 2.725 BTC [+]	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	iiiincredible.	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	so some dude just made more in half an hour than his room mate makes in a year.	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	thank you bitcoin community, you are really helping to make the world a better place.	[03:27]
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KRS1	does a great job by helping the scum float to the top.	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/b3b451526b36c461256b93216a70a44b/tumblr_mhpfg9rNk21rln4dzo1_1280.jpg	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	"thanks for the gf, cya"	[03:31]
KRS1	Wonder where they just came home from.	[03:32]
herbijudlestoids	mircea_popescu: i made a quick graph from the data i logged last night, distribution of tick returns	[03:32]
herbijudlestoids	dunno if you saw it or not http://i.imgur.com/CkJ5kA8.png	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	i hadn't	[03:32]
herbijudlestoids	interesting skew formation	[03:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 67 @ 0.5469104 = 36.643 BTC [+] {2}	[03:33]
herbijudlestoids	not exactly a large sample size	[03:33]
herbijudlestoids	thats for MPOE	[03:33]
mircea_popescu	yeah kinda... not much there yet	[03:33]
herbijudlestoids	i refined some stuff this morning on examining the data and will write some scriptage tonight probly, all thanks to access to free data ;)	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	:)	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431273.msg4827362#msg4827362 who is this guy anyway, is he here ?	[03:34]
ozbot	Ripped OFF by bitbet.us	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	kayser soze anyone ?	[03:34]
Apocalyptic	again some "bitbet scammed me" thread ?	[03:35]
kakobrekla	not scam as such.	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	"bitbet scammed me by sending my winnings to the address i paid from as i told it to"	[03:36]
mike_c	i figured that was one of your sock puppets. those scam threads are good for business :)	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	i never had sock puppets	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	i guess by now this is improbable, perhaps i'm the last one, but anyway, mpoe-pr is actually my only forum thing	[03:36]
mike_c	yeah. i was kidding. except about the good for business part.	[03:37]
mircea_popescu	i guess the original one was, but i doubt further roflcopter does anything really.	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	who knows.	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	sucks this can't really be a/b'd	[03:40]
herbijudlestoids	lunchtiem	[03:47]
herbijudlestoids	banh mih for $3.50 :)	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	i just did the math. the bitbet scammed me dude actually bet... about a dollar,	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	and lost about 0.7 cents to the low weight.	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if the shills/socks are actually paid less than this to start threads/make posts.	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	he	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	s got like > 100 words in there.	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	the entire fucking forum is worth like fiddy bitcoin at these rates. all 500k threads of it.	[03:49]
herbijudlestoids	doesnt it say the bet was 0.011BTC? i.e. 0.011 * ~1000 ~= 11USD? or was this when the price was lower, he says it was when th eprice was higher lol	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	a wait you're right, i had a degree of magnitude off.	[03:50]
herbijudlestoids	bro u scamd me out of 11USD	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	he lost 7 cents to the low weight. i guess tis legitimate.	[03:50]
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herbijudlestoids	most people are shit at betting and will lose their money anyway regardless of scams	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	some people make out alright	[03:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15828 @ 0.00089436 = 14.1559 BTC [-]	[03:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.028 = 0.168 BTC [-]	[04:06]
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kakobrekla	http://dpaste.com/1576267/plain/	[04:18]
kakobrekla	there is a lesson somewhere in there	[04:20]
kakobrekla	and yes, i am reading the fidonet email gateway faq	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	i regularly throw out bits of software or hardware whose function i don't understand.	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	not doing so is immoral in my view, so there.	[04:22]
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Duffer1	I'm gonna make Hodor coin	[04:28]
Duffer1	brb	[04:29]
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herbijudlestoids	http://imgur.com/gallery/tpjF8Lj	[04:32]
ozbot	Swift kicks to the face at the Grammys - Imgur	[04:32]
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Duffer1	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4luHEVjqKA	[04:34]
ozbot	Taylor Swift Attacked at Grammys - YouTube	[04:34]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i'm curious about the hardware	[04:36]
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mircea_popescu	of all the various items around me right now, none carry labels, for instance.	[04:39]
asciilifeform	why would they be labeled?	[04:41]
pankkake	brands?	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea.	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	but somehow it became fashionable of late.	[04:42]
asciilifeform	'intel inside' and 'designed for winblows' stickers look great on toilet tanks	[04:43]
asciilifeform	assuming you meant those	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	i mean everything, really.	[04:43]
asciilifeform	what's your answer to silkscreened print? 'dremel' ? or belt sander	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	i don't recall buying silkscreened shit any time recently.	[04:45]
asciilifeform	e.g. logo on mice, keyboards	[04:45]
Duffer1	"In your progress report of November 30th 2013 you stated "We have this last week shipped our first products to customers." - What product was shipped?"	[04:46]
Duffer1	Kslaughter: We shipped some accessories products to India.	[04:46]
kakobrekla	eh who cares for that shit	[04:46]
pankkake	lol	[04:46]
kakobrekla	as long as its not hugo boss	[04:46]
kakobrekla	im talking labels	[04:47]
mircea_popescu	my kbd came w/o a logo. so did the mouse.	[04:47]
kakobrekla	my brain ignores it	[04:47]
kakobrekla	just like i do not see assbot quotes any more	[04:47]
kakobrekla	they are there, i just dont see them	[04:47]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: I find sugar cubes work well removing silkscreen from hard plastics.	[04:47]
pankkake	keyboard has no logo but I want to replace the win keys by penguins or something. the mouse has a discreet logo… but I've seen the new version, the brand is illuminated :/ https://secure-b.vimeocdn.com/ts/132/730/132730099_640.jpg	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	i don't have a win key either.	[04:49]
kakobrekla	for example, i still have stickers on my lappy, yes they are ugly and yes couldnt care less	[04:49]
asciilifeform	i know of no decent keyboard with a winblows key	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	a laptop is another good example, all sorts of shit to excise in there.	[04:50]
pankkake	hm, you made me realize, I have environmentalist propaganda on my monitor	[04:50]
kakobrekla	you people are such girls.	[04:50]
pankkake	asciilifeform: http://webwit.nl/kbc60/1.jpg	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	nou	[04:50]
asciilifeform	a laptop remains 'satanic' regardless of what one might do to it	[04:51]
kakobrekla	girls i say.	[04:51]
Duffer1	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg4830999#msg4830999	[04:51]
ozbot	[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]	[04:51]
herbijudlestoids	http://www.cogmed.com/working-memory-they-found-your-brain%E2%80%99s-spam-filter	[04:51]
Duffer1	^ ken's pretty much coming clean	[04:51]
asciilifeform	pankkake: 'happy hacking kbd' ?	[04:51]
asciilifeform	has no arrows or f keys either	[04:51]
asciilifeform	why anyone voluntarily uses those is beyond me	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	lmao the slaughter lol is still a thing ?!	[04:51]
pankkake	cheap chinese clone :)	[04:51]
herbijudlestoids	"Importantly, McNab and Klingberg found that the jump in activity levels in these areas was largest for high capacity individuals and smallest for low capacity individuals. That is, when told that they needed to filter, the high-capacity individuals ramped up activity in these brain regions to keep out irrelevant items. By contrast, the low-capacity individuals showed little additional activity in these areas when	[04:51]
Duffer1	it's lulzier than ever MP	[04:52]
pankkake	the fact that it's still a thing, and that the shareholder let it happen is sad :(	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	pankkake you need to re-read the log earlier.	[04:52]
Duffer1	poor gecko :(	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	" In September with bitcoins @ 140, with competition with 400 GH/s and 500 GH/s chips our machines would not ROI, so a decision was made that we would have to refund all of our pre-orders, so we did not commit a lot of our funds to building boards, we was also trying to get enough pre-orders to make our minimum lot with eASIC."	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	the september decision retrospectively made in january.	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	how did that go, "can't spell = scammer" ?	[04:53]
pankkake	asciilifeform: I don't like to move my hands, I'd rather use Fn+something. and vim hotkeys make arrow keys redundant	[04:53]
kakobrekla	hey i cant spell and im not .. a... nvm.	[04:53]
Duffer1	i like this bit: Ken mentioned additional hashrate came online in November, what machines were those?	[04:53]
Duffer1	CEX.IO	[04:53]
pankkake	kslaugther makes spelling error and weird Capitalizations	[04:54]
pankkake	errors	[04:54]
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pankkake	in his sockpuppets also	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	well since scammers never die / "investors" are fucktarded, is inaba still a thing too ?	[04:54]
pankkake	Duffer1: wow at the cex.io stuff. that's… wow	[04:55]
kakobrekla	wait im not following all this	[04:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0489999 = 0.392 BTC [+]	[04:55]
kakobrekla	its too complicated	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla speal bettur.	[04:55]
Duffer1	oh i'm sure inaba is still making the rounds at bitcoin conferences	[04:55]
kakobrekla	i cunt.	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	http://24.media.tumblr.com/a2c3801273c7e205aaa3fce2415bcc76/tumblr_miripmvKLR1ru15g3o1_500.jpg speaking of.	[04:56]
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kakobrekla	pankkake why is cex shocking	[04:57]
kakobrekla	where is the wow	[04:57]
pankkake	the guy isn't supposed to trade company funds on that kind of stuff	[04:57]
pankkake	he's supposed to make miners	[04:57]
kakobrekla	a, that little part.	[04:58]
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pankkake	it made billions of posts speculating on sample chips and the guy said nothing for months	[04:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.00086 = 0.258 BTC [+]	[04:58]
Duffer1	looks like he did what labcoin did, spent ipo money on retail gear to fake progress on their own proprietary stuff, then lied about it, a lot	[04:58]
asciilifeform	pankkake: no pg-up/down keys either. do you also wear a barrel instead of clothing?	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	d'oh.	[04:58]
kakobrekla	so fury got the money on the end.	[04:58]
kakobrekla	well done	[04:59]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform he's french. they evolved past clothing, they just wear their hair.	[04:59]
Duffer1	lol	[04:59]
pankkake	page up/down is a bit frustrating, though for vim and firefox I use other keys	[04:59]
pankkake	well I am hairy, pretty much a caveman	[05:00]
asciilifeform	pankkake: you can carry the happyhacking thing to its logical conclusion:	[05:01]
asciilifeform	http://www.loper-os.org/mwemu/mwemu.html	[05:01]
ozbot	MwEmu	[05:01]
asciilifeform	6 keys.	[05:01]
pankkake	I've been wanting to try similar things	[05:01]
pankkake	there's also a sort of glove where each finger can move in a direction	[05:02]
asciilifeform	you can try it right there	[05:02]
mircea_popescu	should be on left hand	[05:02]
mircea_popescu	so he can still jack off	[05:03]
pankkake	I am left handed	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	a nm then	[05:03]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: doug engelbart's original chorder was left-hand.	[05:03]
asciilifeform	or rather, symmetrical, but intended for left hand.	[05:03]
asciilifeform	right hand held his (original!) mouse	[05:03]
asciilifeform	and a kbd in the middle, for times when it couldn't be avoided.	[05:04]
asciilifeform	http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/mw/motd_ui.jpg	[05:04]
asciilifeform	full turd here:	[05:05]
asciilifeform	http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861	[05:05]
ozbot	Loper OS » Engelbart’s Violin	[05:05]
Duffer1	the forums are on fire tonight https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=439399.0	[05:05]
kakobrekla	look, no branding.	[05:05]
kakobrekla	great for girls.	[05:05]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: if i recall, he machined those	[05:06]
asciilifeform	perhaps true masters ought to make their own i/o devices.	[05:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 508 @ 0.00083145 = 0.4224 BTC [-] {2}	[05:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00089432 = 17.0815 BTC [-] {2}	[05:06]
asciilifeform	i would have built my own keyboard long ago, if i had any way to produce the key caps.	[05:07]
asciilifeform	other components (buckling springs, controller, chassis) can be sourced or laser cut	[05:07]
asciilifeform	but key caps, afaik, must be injection-molded to be of any usable quality.	[05:08]
asciilifeform	likewise the shafts in which they move	[05:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00089423 = 0.9837 BTC [-]	[05:08]
kakobrekla	cant you scavage them?	[05:08]
asciilifeform	(tolerance ~0.1mm, like a rifle chamber)	[05:08]
asciilifeform	if you scavenge, you're stuck with the original key labels	[05:09]
asciilifeform	and yes, who doesn't own a fat sack full of 'model M' key caps	[05:09]
kakobrekla	you dont need a fat sack for yourself do you	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	so hire a secretary, make her type random strings for half a year	[05:10]
asciilifeform	sure ya do. when one's in the wash.	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	cheap chinese caps, the paint wears off	[05:10]
asciilifeform	injection-molded. 1982, still going strong.	[05:10]
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asciilifeform	the black is the inner plastic.	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	o those	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	weird fucking plastic, the white shit too. bachelite or something	[05:10]
asciilifeform	re: secretary: why would you do that to your springs.	[05:11]
asciilifeform	if i ever do make a keyboard, i'll probably machine the mechanicals from aluminum.	[05:12]
kakobrekla	well so you need 2	[05:12]
kakobrekla	still not a fat sack	[05:12]
asciilifeform	if doing something, might as well do it right	[05:12]
pankkake	http://web.archive.org/web/20070114050531/http://tim.griffins.ca/gallery/keyboard/DataHand.html found it!	[05:12]
ozbot	Alternative Keyboard Gallery: DataHand Keyboard	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	well then machine them from rhenium	[05:12]
kakobrekla	good for startrek remake	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	glow in the dark!	[05:12]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: you can machine pyrophorics in your kitchen, i'll pass.	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	:D	[05:13]
asciilifeform	no room in 'garconierre' for argon tanks.	[05:14]
herbijudlestoids	http://imgur.com/gallery/uyiRuTZ	[05:15]
ozbot	The White house slogan - Imgur	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229438.msg4819875#msg4819875	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	split ?	[05:15]
ozbot	[OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	also, check it out : usagi teh hero. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228327.msg4830292#msg4830292	[05:17]
pankkake	yeah… :\|	[05:17]
pankkake	but still, Deprived disappeared	[05:17]
kakobrekla	he took with off wit the monies?	[05:19]
kakobrekla	im so out of the loop.	[05:19]
Apocalyptic	i'm too	[05:19]
mircea_popescu	a while back.	[05:19]
kakobrekla	how much?	[05:19]
Apocalyptic	I considered him as one of the more legit guys out there	[05:19]
Duffer1	he hasn't been since late november	[05:20]
kakobrekla	i mean	[05:20]
kakobrekla	how much did he get away with	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic so did i, until i offered him i don't remember what and he got all shady and shy.	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	at which point i stopped.	[05:20]
Apocalyptic	hum	[05:21]
ThickAsThieves	i voice-chatted with him once	[05:21]
ThickAsThieves	cheerful brit	[05:21]
ThickAsThieves	he had plans for more products	[05:22]
kakobrekla	somali using britafy app	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	part of the problem is that all the irresponsible gecko shit going around puts a lot of stress on otherwise honest people, i wager.	[05:22]
ThickAsThieves	odd he took off	[05:22]
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pankkake	unless he got hit by a bus	[05:22]
ThickAsThieves	technically,	[05:22]
Duffer1	ya i don't think anyone saw that one coming	[05:22]
kakobrekla	that bus or?	[05:22]
ThickAsThieves	he said he wouldnt post til he had something to post	[05:22]
ThickAsThieves	and nothing has changed yet	[05:23]
ThickAsThieves	ciphertrade is not open yet, which is where he intended to do biz	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	what, THAT still a thing ?	[05:23]
ThickAsThieves	yep	[05:23]
kakobrekla	but whoresandstuff.com is open	[05:23]
Duffer1	he's also on CT board and probably an investor in it	[05:23]
kakobrekla	he can list there	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	dude, are these muppets investing in bcst or w/e still ?	[05:23]
ThickAsThieves	they are in "open beta"	[05:23]
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Duffer1	ciphertrade, for better or worse (much worse), is the next batter to step up to the plate	[05:25]
kakobrekla	link?	[05:25]
ThickAsThieves	batter, like the kind you put on chicken	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	lol pancakes!	[05:25]
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Duffer1	kako https://beta.ciphertrade.com/	[05:27]
Duffer1	and the discussion thread https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=7176.0	[05:27]
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kakobrekla	and the ops are in merrica rite?	[05:28]
Duffer1	london mainly	[05:28]
Duffer1	or there abouts	[05:28]
kakobrekla	at least that.	[05:28]
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Apocalyptic	hum, they seem to be doing LTC/BTC and XPM/BTC too	[05:28]
Dimsler_	lol	[05:29]
Duffer1	i believe they plan assets + currency exchange	[05:29]
Dimsler_	all these exchanges popping	[05:29]
kakobrekla	pooping?	[05:29]
Apocalyptic	^	[05:29]
Dimsler_	oh yeah those look totally legit	[05:29]
Dimsler_	let me send 100btc	[05:29]
kakobrekla	SEE I CAN SPELL AFTER ALL	[05:29]
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Apocalyptic	you can turn off caps lock too	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	* kakobrekla casts a slanderous spell upon the happy investoland	[05:30]
Dimsler_	these guys are retards	[05:30]
Dimsler_	not using any exchanges based in an OECD country	[05:30]
Apocalyptic	that's kinda extremist	[05:31]
Duffer1	i'm just the messenger, please don't shoot	[05:31]
kakobrekla	it only works if you belive it mp	[05:31]
Dimsler_	yeah talk to some mtgox guys	[05:31]
Dimsler_	then	[05:31]
ThickAsThieves	the deprived mining copycat thing on Havelock appears to be almost open for trading	[05:31]
Dimsler_	if you think its extremist	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	so basically this leaves... romania ?	[05:31]
kakobrekla	slovenia	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	japan is in the oecd	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	slovenia doesn't exist.	[05:31]
Dimsler_	lol slovenia is a spit on the map	[05:31]
Dimsler_	bunch of clowns who can't get along	[05:32]
kakobrekla	yeah and kayman islands are twice the size of merrica	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	see ? kant spell cayman	[05:32]
kakobrekla	we	[05:32]
Dimsler_	well the carribean is all false as well	[05:32]
Dimsler_	if you want real security you need something like hongkong	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	also cant spell vhatewer	[05:32]
Dimsler_	where if the US authorities call they hang up the phone	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	and chinese ?	[05:33]
Dimsler_	actually best plac eis probably russia	[05:33]
Dimsler_	no extradition treaty	[05:33]
Dimsler_	low income tax on high gains	[05:33]
kakobrekla	no russia, slovenia.	[05:33]
Dimsler_	man i'm not going anywhere near yugoslavia	[05:34]
Dimsler_	those people are fucked in the head	[05:34]
kakobrekla	....	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	was slovenia in the old yugoslavia ?!	[05:34]
Dimsler_	croatia is nice for a coast line vacation	[05:34]
kakobrekla	was it not!?	[05:34]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: things, my company is making them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=439618.new :)	[05:34]
asciilifeform	detecting VM is very, very easy.	[05:34]
Dimsler_	mircea_popescu, you might be confused with slovakia	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	they're different ?!	[05:35]
Dimsler_	lol quit trolling	[05:35]
kakobrekla	fuck all of you.	[05:35]
Dimsler_	slovakia has nice driving roads	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	Azelphur what exactly are you doing there ?	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla aww you know we love you	[05:36]
Apocalyptic	slovakia ftw	[05:36]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: title is technical director, basically I do web dev / anything tech I can do, while being a big-ass cash cow.	[05:36]
Dimsler_	bitex is a cash cow?	[05:36]
Dimsler_	lol	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	so basicallyh you're being the sucker in this deal.	[05:36]
Azelphur	no, I am xD	[05:36]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: hopefully not ;)	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	who told that aldur derp that december 2012 qualifies as "long term" ?	[05:37]
Dimsler_	listen guys	[05:37]
Dimsler_	we nee da new MLM	[05:37]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: I've known him way longer	[05:37]
Dimsler_	now that everyone forgot about pirate	[05:37]
Azelphur	we've been friends (irl) for years	[05:37]
asciilifeform	https://github.com/kaniini/slabbed-or-not sucks, easily defeated.	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129961.msg1394808#msg1394808	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	stupidest first post in history of stupid first posts.	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, gl etc.	[05:37]
Dimsler_	lol the bitcoin foundation is dangerous	[05:38]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: haha, he's finance not technology :)	[05:38]
Dimsler_	i'm worried about the doing something stupid like blacklisting address'	[05:38]
Azelphur	so he thinks in terms of the financial industry :)	[05:38]
Dimsler_	dangerous group of people	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	Azelphur he's clueless. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash3%2Ft1%2F264557_227871904003610_1955021226_n.jpg&t=536&c=G_exZJuL6gxbpQ << srsly ?!	[05:38]
asciilifeform	Dimsler_: the sooner the phoundation 'shoots itself' in the head, rather than in the foot as usual, the better.	[05:38]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: perhaps, but our FPGA engineer isn't (I picked the engineer myself)	[05:39]
Dimsler_	well in the end i don't really give a shit what happens in america	[05:39]
Dimsler_	since its a small and insignificant place	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform no, no, its current zombie/laughingstock state is useful. much like the power rangers.	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	they absorb shocks	[05:39]
Dimsler_	lol	[05:39]
Dimsler_	well they dragged shrem away	[05:39]
Dimsler_	for loundering	[05:39]
Dimsler_	er laundering	[05:39]
Dimsler_	which the charges themselves are hilarious	[05:39]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: can't get much more skilled than this, no? http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/glendon-klassen/87/5b4/30 ;)	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	Azelphur alright, just bear it foremost in your mind that a bunch of people ended up swindled to lend their credence to idiotic nonprojects by random wanna-be "experts" to date.	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	so don't become another.	[05:40]
Dimsler_	oh you guys	[05:40]
Dimsler_	i love this new idiot	[05:40]
Dimsler_	vitalik	[05:40]
Dimsler_	or whatever	[05:40]
Dimsler_	the bitcoin magazine clown	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	he's by no means new.	[05:40]
Dimsler_	well in 2012 he was buying btc off my exchange	[05:40]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: yea, I realise that, and it's something I worry about, but I am heavily involved, and I have sunk a lot of time and money into it	[05:40]
ThickAsThieves	he's not an idiot, he's a "hacker"	[05:40]
Dimsler_	lol hes new to me	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	Azelphur these are not considerations.	[05:40]
Dimsler_	vitalik is a moron	[05:40]
Azelphur	so hopefully all will go well :)	[05:40]
Dimsler_	that has no idea about economics or cryptography	[05:41]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: oh, you know we already have functional hardware right? :P	[05:41]
Dimsler_	Azelphur, take your fucking scam else where	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	that's fine, but the amount of time/effort sunk into anything has no bearing. you drop a hand of cards when you know they can't win, not when you're comfortable with how much you threw into the pot.	[05:41]
kakobrekla	that dude has "webdev" on his linkedin. -10 internet points.	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	Dimsler_ what's with you anyway	[05:41]
Apocalyptic	Dimsler_, http://ethereum.org/	[05:41]
Apocalyptic	his new project	[05:41]
Dimsler_	lol sorry	[05:41]
Dimsler_	i'm hating today	[05:41]
kakobrekla	Dimsler_ serbia is hating back	[05:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.004072 = 0.1018 BTC [-] {3}	[05:42]
ThickAsThieves	there'll never be a bitcoin 2.0 because all the cries of wolf	[05:42]
Dimsler_	i saw the ethereum project, its got more holes then the block of swiss cheese in my fridge	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	o so i get it now, slovenia is not slovakia because it is in fact the other name for serbia ?	[05:42]
Azelphur	Dimsler_: haha, with my otc rep, it'd have to be one hell of a long con	[05:42]
Apocalyptic	^	[05:42]
Dimsler_	i could use a vacation in croatia	[05:43]
kakobrekla	is this how is going to end? country trolling?	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	Azelphur that's not the point, the point is that you wouldn't be the first guy used for his rep.	[05:43]
Dimsler_	the french riveria got expensive lately	[05:43]
Dimsler_	cause the euro got raped	[05:43]
Dimsler_	er	[05:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15833 @ 0.00089401 = 14.1549 BTC [-] {2}	[05:43]
Dimsler_	usd to euro rape	[05:43]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: yea, I agree, it's a risk.	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	anyway.	[05:43]
asciilifeform	altera cyclone V GX	[05:43]
Dimsler_	Azelphur, list on mpex so we can pump and dump it?	[05:43]
asciilifeform	max ALUs - 113,560	[05:43]
Azelphur	Dimsler_: haha :)	[05:44]
asciilifeform	max clock: 550MHz	[05:44]
asciilifeform	http://www.altera.com/literature/hb/cyclone-v/cv_51001.pdf	[05:44]
asciilifeform	tell us again about 10GH/sec SHA256.	[05:44]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: I reckon we'll do fine though, at the end of the day we have the thing and it's hashing right now, so we've already won really	[05:44]
Azelphur	even if 0 preorders and nobody buys, we'll just mine on it and laugh.	[05:44]
Dimsler_	why don't you just mine on it now	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	so if you already have the thing and it hashes why is your "finance industry" pal posting stuff david thorpe designed ?	[05:45]
Azelphur	Dimsler_: we are	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	thorne*	[05:46]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: posting pictures of an altera dev kit is hardly amazing/interesting	[05:46]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[05:46]
kakobrekla	^^	[05:46]
kakobrekla	assbot has it	[05:46]
asciilifeform	speaking of which,	[05:46]
asciilifeform	http://www.terasic.com.tw/cgi-bin/page/archive.pl?Language=English&CategoryNo=167&No=830	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	according to who, the finance industry ? cmon.	[05:46]
Azelphur	but you do have a point, I could get our FPGA guy to post some stuff	[05:46]
Azelphur	yea, I'll bug him about it :P	[05:46]
asciilifeform	$180.	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	anything is better than a 640px wide picture of six green lines	[05:46]
asciilifeform	for anyone who has these same fit-ten-pounds-of-shit-in-a-five-pound-bag skillz.	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	Azelphur so your product you've won with is a fpga ?!	[05:47]
asciilifeform	'those who refuse to do arithmetic are doomed to talk nonsense.'	[05:47]
kakobrekla	100 btc aint gonna make asics	[05:47]
kakobrekla	not yet at least.	[05:47]
Dimsler_	lol	[05:47]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: seems so, ain't many decent FPGAs out there for altcoins	[05:47]
Azelphur	seemed like a good niche	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[05:48]
Dimsler_	alt coins suck	[05:48]
Dimsler_	theres no prize for second place ok	[05:48]
Dimsler_	charles lee knows this first hand	[05:48]
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Azelphur	mircea_popescu: and hopefully won't get me thrown in jail, haha	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	Dimsler_ actually miners may make a buck out of all the retarded kids who think a bigger number of coins is better.	[05:48]
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*	Azelphur wishes he was born in romania so he could do cool things	[05:48]
Dimsler_	mmm 81 million litecoins	[05:48]
Dimsler_	must have cryptocurrncy with billions of coins	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	then they can get scammed out of fiddy billion coins at a time instead of .5	[05:49]
Duffer1	azelphur so your target is sha256 altcoin miners?	[05:50]
Azelphur	Duffer1: hell no, the sha256 is mostly for shits and giggles	[05:50]
Azelphur	the main targets are scrypt and prime	[05:50]
Duffer1	BitEx M2 coin?	[05:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.59993737 = 4.7995 BTC [+] {4}	[05:51]
kakobrekla	azelphur so your target is sha256 altcoin miners?	[05:51]
kakobrekla	all sha alts can be mined on asic afaik	[05:51]
Dimsler_	alt currencies = modern day boiler room	[05:51]
Dimsler_	like i get satoshi premining himself the 1mil in coins	[05:51]
Dimsler_	because he deserved something for the smart scheme	[05:52]
Duffer1	ya kako lol that's what i was trying to point out :P	[05:52]
Dimsler_	but charles lee is just a fag that offers nothing	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	Dimsler_ he didn't even premine it.	[05:52]
Dimsler_	same applies to the rest of the crypto alt clowns premining themselves coins	[05:52]
Dimsler_	yeah i know	[05:52]
Dimsler_	lol	[05:52]
Azelphur	Duffer1: our number theory guy really wanted to try his hand at a new alt :)	[05:52]
Azelphur	and baring in mind he's pretty much perfectly qualified (number theory / fpga) it'll be interesting to see what he comes up with	[05:53]
Duffer1	tell him to be honest with himself and just name it Hodor Coin	[05:53]
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Azelphur	:P	[05:53]
Dimsler_	lol new alt	[05:53]
Azelphur	I can probably drag him in here, if ya'll are interested.	[05:53]
Dimsler_	no	[05:53]
Duffer1	that would be fascinating	[05:53]
Dimsler_	no it would not quit trolling the guy	[05:54]
Azelphur	lol	[05:54]
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Duffer1	what's the six month plan for bitex?	[05:55]
Dimsler_	its the i'll take all your money and in six months i'll be gone plan	[05:55]
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asciilifeform	recipe for those disinclined to be chumped: 1) read published (3 yrs +) verilog src for sha256. 2) build. 3) see minimum gate count for unrolled hasher 4) laugh	[05:56]
Apocalyptic	seriously Dimsler_ wtf	[05:56]
asciilifeform	and this is the ideal figure - does not include memory controller, scrypt crap...	[05:57]
Azelphur	Duffer1: get the FPGAs out, work on new cores, we're also thinking of doing some bitcoin commerce	[05:58]
Azelphur	Dimsler_: would be hard considering there's no way to give us your money yet ;)	[05:58]
kakobrekla	its like all in one shaman stop	[05:59]
Duffer1	bitcoin commerce?	[05:59]
Dimsler_	kakobrekla, lol	[05:59]
Azelphur	Duffer1: yea, ie setting up a reasonably well stocked computer store	[06:00]
Azelphur	there doesn't seem to be anyone doing that in UK	[06:00]
Dimsler_	now a computer store?	[06:00]
Dimsler_	honestly great buisness plan	[06:00]
Apocalyptic	"this will be our temporary home while we setup our IRC server", Azelphur why would you setup your own IRC server for 1 channel ?	[06:01]
Azelphur	that's one of my things I'd like to work on in the future, he asked for the 6 month plan, which goes beyond the FPGA ;)	[06:01]
Azelphur	Apocalyptic: that'd be Oliver not listening to me again when I told him no IRC server	[06:01]
Azelphur	he fails at listening sometimes :(	[06:01]
Apocalyptic	sounds like a waste of time to setup and manage it	[06:01]
Azelphur	yup	[06:02]
Azelphur	and an annoyance to the users	[06:02]
Azelphur	it won't happen, it'll stay on freenode :P	[06:02]
Duffer1	freenode4life	[06:02]
Azelphur	^	[06:02]
Apocalyptic	*4lyfe	[06:02]
Dimsler_	lol	[06:02]
Dimsler_	goo efnet	[06:02]
Dimsler_	Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.	[06:04]
Dimsler_	- Mark Twain	[06:04]
Duffer1	dimsler_ what's your exchange?	[06:04]
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Dimsler_	i run a locablbitcoins one	[06:05]
Duffer1	ah	[06:06]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla lol	[13:28]
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Namworld	I think I sent an email inquiring about advertising on Bitbet a few months ago. Don't think I ever got an answer on that, come to think of it.	[13:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02711112 = 0.244 BTC [-] {2}	[14:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00574705 = 0.1724 BTC [+] {3}	[14:17]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 500 @ 0.00327102 = 1.6355 BTC [-] {13}	[14:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00545 = 0.1363 BTC [-]	[14:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00542714 = 0.2931 BTC [-] {5}	[14:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.601 BTC [+]	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	Namworld that'd be the first time kakobrekla missed one.	[14:44]
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mircea_popescu	https://sites.google.com/a/tcilgl.com/paracoin/ << anyone saw this ?	[14:58]
ozbot	paracoin	[14:58]
ThickAsThieves	note that google Sites allow an exploit to autofill hidden forms	[15:04]
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mircea_popescu	if you run js.	[15:06]
ThickAsThieves	i dunno, something to do with keychain apps	[15:08]
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mircea_popescu	you mean last year's chrome vuln ?	[15:10]
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ThickAsThieves	no, the keychain app sees "google.com" in the url, and autofills the hidden form, then youre fed a poll or some such other "submit" button	[15:13]
ThickAsThieves	i may be getting the details wrong but that's the gist of it	[15:14]
mircea_popescu	aha	[15:14]
ThickAsThieves	not sure why paracoin is using goxprice tho	[15:18]
ThickAsThieves	isnt it time to finally cut the cord?	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	cause tvconf is a stubborn self-deluding old timer and etc.	[15:19]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437931.msg4838062#msg4838062 << mpoe-pr, aka cold ownage.	[15:29]
ozbot	Throw Charlie under the bus and wash your hands clean of your biggest advocate	[15:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 500 @ 0.00166114 = 0.8306 BTC [-]	[15:30]
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ThickAsThieves	what a retarded thread	[15:34]
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ThickAsThieves	some community...	[15:35]
Duffer1	i thought the luls were over for the night so i tried to sleep	[15:36]
Duffer1	couldn't sleep, now more luls	[15:36]
mircea_popescu	welcome to bitcoin, where the luls never cease.	[15:36]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves it's taaki's thread. what else'd it be	[15:36]
Neil	mircea_popescu: Likely it's been mentioned but bitbet is ~15 hrs behind the blockchain	[15:37]
ThickAsThieves	ah i was trying to suss who was taaki	[15:37]
ThickAsThieves	never knew his forum handle	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	it has ?	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	onoes. kakobrekla ! we're split!	[15:38]
ThickAsThieves	bet No on all the bets!	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	poor kako, prolly went to get his 13 hours of sleep this month	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	result ? Last block: 13 hours 42 minutes ago	[15:38]
ThickAsThieves	taaki is just jealous he had no friends to throw him under a bus, and no bus headed in is direction	[15:39]
Neil	I don't think bitbet gives bettors their true time when it falls behind like this... which is kinda unfair	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	Neil i think it goes by block times	[15:40]
ThickAsThieves	if youre betting 15hours before close, youre probly doing it wrong	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	suppose you bet now. bitbet doesn't know.	[15:40]
Neil	mircea_popescu: I'm 90% sure it doesn't...	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	once the demon restarts and it discovers your bet, it takes the blockstam time.	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	o you are ?	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	well then thanks for bringing it up, shall be checked	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves no but losing 15 hours of weight for no apparent reason hurts across the board	[15:41]
ThickAsThieves	word	[15:42]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, genjix used to think himself important, back when bitcoin consisted of me, some decent programmers which mostly meanwhile left, and a bunch of fucktards, just like him	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	he felt like he's friends with "all of bitcoin", a few exceptions notwithstanding.	[15:42]
Duffer1	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx4-KHwXOHk	[15:43]
ozbot	Penis Will Make You Slap Somebody (must see) - YouTube	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile things like interscamgo have been laughed out of the space, and all he's left with is his expertise, which... you know. standup comedyt	[15:43]
ThickAsThieves	UK picks Open Document Format for all government files	[15:43]
Namworld	...	[15:43]
Namworld	Okay, I'll say it. Who's genjix?	[15:44]
ThickAsThieves	next headline will be: Oracle Buys OpenOffice	[15:44]
mircea_popescu	;;google amir taaki wikipedia	[15:44]
gribble	Amir Taaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Amir Taaki Interview and #Bitcoin 2013 Wrap Up \| Jupiter ...: ; Amir Taaki Answers Your Questions About Bitcoin - Slashdot:	[15:44]
ThickAsThieves	he has a wiki	[15:44]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[15:44]
Namworld	Ah, Amir	[15:44]
ThickAsThieves	he's Scottish-English Iranian	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	it's better than any uncyclopedia.	[15:45]
ThickAsThieves	he got kicked out of high school for hacking	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	aww shit, they ditched the sasquatch pic.	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	anyone know how to navigate wikipedia history ?	[15:46]
Namworld	ok, I'm out. It's 8 am. It's late.	[15:47]
ThickAsThieves	click View History	[15:47]
ThickAsThieves	;)	[15:47]
ThickAsThieves	top right	[15:47]
ThickAsThieves	"You may be right, but you can't add negative information about living people to articles unless you have a high-quality source. Internet forums do not meet our definition of the term"	[15:49]
ThickAsThieves	"But it's allowed for positive information? "	[15:49]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[15:49]
truffles	-assets seems to dislike ppl i like woot	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	makes sense tho, if you didn't let random doofus self-report all the nice stuff they think about themselves	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	the butthurt would cover wikipedia.	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	truffles that's because you're an idiot.	[15:50]
truffles	umk	[15:50]
truffles	ure a small dick	[15:50]
ThickAsThieves	oh no he ditnt!	[15:51]
davout	tumbleweed.wav	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	it's not that small.	[15:51]
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truffles	well it might as well be	[15:51]
truffles	u try so hard to be the big dick though	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Amir_taaki.jpg	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	ty tat.	[15:52]
mircea_popescu	;;google trilema pula mea	[15:52]
gribble	The reasons why Bitcoin securities can't be regulated by ... - Trilema: ; Wilcoxon tests for mean difference - Deakin University: ; Stabilization Effects of Fiscal Policy in Croatia:	[15:52]
mircea_popescu	google u sux.	[15:52]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/	[15:52]
ozbot	NSFW - Pula mea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[15:52]
truffles	blog spam	[15:52]
ThickAsThieves	so what is Bitcoin Foundation's next move after resigning Shrem?	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	it makes a c0k big!	[15:53]
ThickAsThieves	something to help it's image right?	[15:53]
ThickAsThieves	“We are now witnessing the long-awaited arrival of mainstream online casinos into the bitcoin universe.”~Matonis	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	derp.	[15:53]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.coindesk.com/legal-online-gambling-next-major-bitcoin-market/	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	i would bet the next move is some internal drama with someone leaving in a huff.	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	at least that's how it ususally works.	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	"He proposes a shift away from specialist thinking towards a creative society of generalist knowledge workers."	[15:54]
BingoBoingo	Maybe they will find out Vesseness has a bong? or Hearn?	[15:54]
mircea_popescu	ahahaa o gawdy, that wikipedia article rules.	[15:54]
mircea_popescu	Derplandia! An Utopian Future! by A. A. Fucktardaki	[15:55]
ThickAsThieves	a society of clay pot IPOs	[15:55]
ThickAsThieves	“We are not here to engage in a legal debate, we are here to serve up the very first legitimate workaround to the complex online gambling laws in this US market. We are returning to Americans their freedom to choose and giving them their power back!”	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	i wish this happened, seriously. if you could somehow get all the 20something derps their own fucking country...	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	god it would be so great.	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	in a decade or so we'd go on bimbo safari!	[15:55]
truffles	20something men everywhere	[15:56]
truffles	sounds like a grand idead	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	men no, but bois and retarded girls, pretty much.	[15:56]
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punkman1	mircea_popescu: you just need to build a big boat, they'll come willingly	[15:57]
truffles	lol	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves "and we are conveniently forgetting to mention the other people who have been doing it for years and have much more volume than we everf had even in fiat"	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	"because business can in fact be built upon self-delusion!"	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	punkman1 yeah, but the problem is their parents wouldn't stay put.	[15:58]
mircea_popescu	which is kind-of sad, really.	[15:58]
ThickAsThieves	i like how he defines We Wanna Break the Law as "engage a legal debate"	[15:58]
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mircea_popescu	afaik it's not actually illegal, is it ?	[15:58]
ThickAsThieves	in the US?	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[15:59]
ThickAsThieves	if it isnt it will be	[15:59]
truffles	TAT are u still with "the foundation"?	[15:59]
ThickAsThieves	i was never a part	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	wasn't it illegal to process payments ?	[15:59]
truffles	oh	[15:59]
ThickAsThieves	i contemplating joining one day	[15:59]
ThickAsThieves	then i didnt	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	one more can of paint you avoided stepping into.	[16:00]
ThickAsThieves	both feet are occupied anyway :)	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:00]
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ThickAsThieves	so if I understand correctly, Cointerra is finally shipping. the 2nd batch of customers getting units along with the 1st batch. The machines are not to spec, but customers get a 15% coupon to buy more of them, as consolation. Refunds in fiat are allowed.	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	that's pretty stellar considering the industry standards.	[16:14]
ThickAsThieves	now that newegg and tigerdirect are selling bitcoin mining kits	[16:15]
ThickAsThieves	it seems a major manufacturer must be contemplating an ASIC soon	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	probably.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	hopefully nvidia does it.	[16:17]
ThickAsThieves	they may be on a short leash for innovating after these portable gaming things fail	[16:17]
Namworld	Nvidia... miner...	[16:18]
Duffer1	i could see nvidia sha vs amd scrypt	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	manufacture a billion dollar's worth of 100 and 500 watt mining rigs, as stand alone boxes, doing whatever, 5 gh/watt, 2gh/dollar	[16:18]
Namworld	Nvidia Bitcoin Miner...	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	they have the foundries and the engineers to do it.	[16:18]
Namworld	Well one of them is bound to do it eventually	[16:18]
ThickAsThieves	Intel could do 14nm or such	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	amd, nvidia, intel, they can all do it.	[16:19]
Namworld	I mean, the piles of cash thrown at any random new bitcointalk.org user claiming to be developing an ASIC	[16:19]
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mircea_popescu	even apple or amazon could do it, if they weren't fucktarded.	[16:19]
ThickAsThieves	or Samsung	[16:19]
punkman	why not AMD?	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	yeah, at least a dozen diff south korean/japanese/hk/etc producers could do it too	[16:19]
ThickAsThieves	AMD is most likely imo	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	punkman i said AMD!	[16:20]
punkman	oh I saw nvidia only	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	unrelatedly : if any one was wondering if a wedding was ever made with the bridemaids in the buff : yes, it has. http://31.media.tumblr.com/26a90c55ec607f6fad54984ba75bd875/tumblr_mimvopGYAZ1ru15g3o1_500.jpg	[16:20]
ThickAsThieves	AMD didnt find a safe harbor in mobile	[16:20]
ThickAsThieves	they need another avenue	[16:20]
asciilifeform	if they weren't fucktarded, they'd do it 1) two years ago 2) embedded in run of unrelated IC, antifused out in consumer ver. 3) powered up silently 4) ip-proxied to look like 100,000 lamers with GPUs.	[16:20]
wao-ender	mm	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform no they wouldn't do that.	[16:21]
wao-ender	mircea_popescu: seems you have very intelligent police there http://www.mojevideo.sk/video/f8b5/policia_vs_dvere.html	[16:21]
Namworld	looks like a fun wedding	[16:21]
wao-ender	Politia is romanian afaik?	[16:21]
mircea_popescu	politia, yes.	[16:21]
mircea_popescu	can you summarize the vid ?	[16:21]
wao-ender	they can't open doors for 13 minutes.	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:22]
wao-ender	imho it should be great ad for vendor of secure doors.	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	romanian folklore/jokes usually has the cop as the dummy.	[16:22]
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wao-ender	[AD] This door will resists Politia for 13 minutes!	[16:23]
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asciilifeform	speaking of which	[16:23]
asciilifeform	http://nsa.gov1.info/	[16:23]
ozbot	The Domestic Surveillance Directorate	[16:24]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/new-3d-printer-by-markforged-can-print-with-carbon-fiber-16428727	[16:24]
ozbot	New 3D Printer by MarkForged Can Print With Carbon Fiber - Popular Mechanics	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	o wow.	[16:24]
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ThickAsThieves	ideal for weapons, no?	[16:24]
Namworld	Finally, a printer suitable for those weapons 3d printing blueprint	[16:25]
ThickAsThieves	"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."	[16:25]
asciilifeform	let's have /him/ fire with a barrel 'as strong as aluminum', we'll watch.	[16:25]
punkman	is Cody Wilson still doing the 3d-printed gun thing, or is it just Dark Wallets for him now	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	probably just reefer for him now.	[16:26]
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mircea_popescu	aluminium is not really that strong, is it ?	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	did he mean duraluminium ?	[16:27]
punkman	there's strong aluminum	[16:27]
Namworld	Imma print myselft a carbon dane axe and a viking helmet (an historically accurate one without horns)	[16:27]
Namworld	Because fuck guns actually	[16:27]
ThickAsThieves	throwing stars and darts for me plz	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	i'll just order dildoes	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	because fuck your wooden horses	[16:28]
asciilifeform	working temperature of printer extruder. max temperature of chamber during firing.	[16:28]
ThickAsThieves	carbon fiber nunchuks!	[16:30]
asciilifeform	seriously, get a desktop CNC mill. it will make anything from a halberg to a schmeisser.	[16:30]
kakobrekla	Namworld, huh? can you tell me which email did you send from. i remember us talking via irc and i dont ignore emails.	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform but not by itself.	[16:30]
Namworld	"It even has a higher strength-to-weight ratio than CNC-machined aluminum."	[16:30]
Namworld	My god...	[16:30]
Namworld	One could do many things with such a printer	[16:30]
Namworld	I'm not sure kakobrekla	[16:31]
Namworld	I'm heading off. Doesn't matter for now anyway.	[16:31]
Namworld	Scrat hasn't been around in a while.	[16:31]
ThickAsThieves	impenetrable fortune cookies!	[16:31]
Namworld	Goodbye.	[16:31]
Namworld	TaT... that's a dickish prank.	[16:32]
Namworld	I like it.	[16:32]
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ThickAsThieves	road spikes	[16:33]
Duffer1	you could just use a drill in a wood frame for desktop needs	[16:33]
ThickAsThieves	there's some fun	[16:33]
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Duffer1	or a dremel	[16:33]
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kakobrekla	poor kako, prolly went to get his 13 hours of sleep this month	[16:48]
kakobrekla	result ? Last block: 13 hours 42 minutes ago	[16:48]
kakobrekla	cause im doing it on hand.	[16:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.598 BTC [-]	[16:50]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[16:53]
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jurov	;;bc,tslb	[17:17]
gribble	Error: "bc,tslb" is not a valid command.	[17:17]
jurov	;;tslb	[17:17]
gribble	Time since last block: 57 seconds	[17:17]
jurov	;;bc,stats	[17:17]
gribble	Current Blocks: 283212 \| Current Difficulty: 2.193847870174279E9 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 284255 \| Next Difficulty In: 1043 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes, and 48 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 2440229238.49 \| Estimated Percent Change: 11.23056	[17:17]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 254 @ 0.00271007 = 0.6884 BTC [-] {4}	[17:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 548 @ 0.00271002 = 1.4851 BTC [-] {4}	[17:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 847 @ 0.002701 = 2.2877 BTC [-]	[17:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00270101 = 0.1486 BTC [+] {2}	[17:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00007266 = 0.1453 BTC [-] {4}	[17:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2210 @ 0.00044457 = 0.9825 BTC [-] {6}	[17:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62479999 = 1.2496 BTC [+]	[17:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.049 = 1.96 BTC [+]	[17:41]
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nubbins`	hi	[17:41]
kakobrekla	hi	[17:41]
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nubbins`	i'm 32 today :0	[17:42]
kakobrekla	congrats	[17:42]
kakobrekla	many didnt make it this far.	[17:42]
nubbins`	i was about to say "no need, all i did was not die"	[17:42]
asciilifeform	happy bday nubbins`	[17:42]
nubbins`	but you've got a point :(	[17:43]
kakobrekla	hehe	[17:43]
nubbins`	tyvm	[17:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02947999 = 0.2948 BTC [+] {5}	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	sooo... obama to congress "you're fired". congress gives standing ovation.	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	that country is turning into the fucking bitcointalk of politics, i swear.	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	mostly notable for the comedic relief.	[17:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00089908 = 6.0238 BTC [+]	[17:53]
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mircea_popescu	http://pastebin.com/gxCPkxMN	[17:56]
ozbot	NYDFS Department of Financial Services live meeting on the 28th (today?) and 29 - Pastebin.com	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	if someone still wanted a transcript of the dfs retardation.	[17:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02989915 = 0.1196 BTC [+] {2}	[17:58]
BingoBoingo	Oh, so much missing from that paste.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	well yes, it's only a few pages.	[18:00]
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BingoBoingo	Doesn't even cover the interesting points. Doesn't even seem to make it past to the first pannel to get to the LTC and VanCleef woman going full Amir	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	well... got a full transcript anywhere ?	[18:07]
BingoBoingo	I've got a bunch of notes on notebook paper I'll prolly move online next week. Going to watch the hearings again to make sure nothing especially lulzy was missed.	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	well you know, if you're gonna do a complete one do a complete one	[18:10]
BingoBoingo	http://www.dfs.ny.gov/insurance/hearing/vc_01282014_indx.htm	[18:10]
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mircea_popescu	that's not a transcript tho, just the collection of written matter submitted.	[18:11]
BingoBoingo	has most of the prepared statements now. Looks like to get a full one for the questions, or at lest the interesting questions I might have to make it	[18:11]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Here's the lulziest of the prepared statements (was read verbatim) http://www.dfs.ny.gov/insurance/hearing/vchearing/van_cleef.pdf	[18:12]
BingoBoingo	I'll paste it as plaintext	[18:12]
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BingoBoingo	http://dpaste.com/1577206/	[18:14]
ozbot	dpaste: #1577206	[18:14]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00090009 = 6.0306 BTC [+]	[18:16]
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polac	hello i ahve a question please	[18:27]
polac	have*	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	wait, VanCleef was the e !?	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	polac shoot	[18:27]
polac	thanks	[18:28]
polac	mircea popescu?	[18:28]
polac	bot or human	[18:28]
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polac	this is the oficcial acnel for bitbet?	[18:29]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Dunno if it IRC VanClef, but it was the girl's name	[18:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62479997 = 3.124 BTC [-] {2}	[18:33]
polac	some one eee	[18:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.62497777 = 5.6248 BTC [+] {3}	[18:34]
BingoBoingo	polac this seems to be the best channel for bitbet	[18:36]
polac	ok i have some questions but i dont see lot of activity here	[18:37]
BingoBoingo	What I don't get about the tesitfying Van Cleef is instead of Bitcoin they wanted to discuss:	[18:37]
BingoBoingo	"a company called COEPTIS is preparing to launch the Global Standard System (System) that will issue a medium of exchange called the Global Standard Currency (Currency). This Currency, which will circulate electronically on a closed settlement platform, will be 100% backed by physical gold, providing for freedom from default and fully protecting the holder’s value."	[18:37]
Troic_	polac, it will come (the activity) or you can just ask, perhaps someone else knows the answer.	[18:37]
BingoBoingo	polac: IRC is a slow medium. Put forward the questions and someone should get to them within an hour or day or so	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	polac yes it is.	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	that's the first time someone wanted to know if im a bot ;/	[18:40]
chetty	you aren't?	[18:40]
deadweasel	it's pretty obvious he is.	[18:40]
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assbot	his AI is almost as good as mine	[18:41]
deadweasel	well, he's your bot, assbot	[18:41]
jurov	rofl	[18:41]
deadweasel	AI making AI, what has the world come to?!	[18:41]
polac	ok is related a bet on bitbet.us . if i make a BET that is obvius that will win.. .. how i know how much BTC i will get on reward how i make the calc	[18:42]
jurov	polac have you noticed there is a calculator?	[18:42]
polac	is this BET . that left 7 hours .. to end	[18:42]
polac	http://bitbet.us/bet/590/bitcoin-market-capitalization-to-be-above-4-5-billion/	[18:42]
jurov	right on the bet page	[18:42]
ozbot	BitBet - Bitcoin Market Capitalization to be above 4.5 billion USD on Feb 1st	[18:42]
polac	yes i know that is a calculator. but i dont know if is the clean amount or total amount	[18:43]
polac	here stas say if i put 1 btc i get ---Yes pays: 0.9904118 BTC ----- No pays: 1.04474976 BTC	[18:43]
polac	so if i put 1 btc i get 0.99 + 1 btc investment i get total 1.99 ?	[18:44]
BingoBoingo	polac: You'd get 0.99 total because of betting so late.	[18:44]
polac	so how much i get? bcz calculators say i get 0.99	[18:44]
polac	how much i can get that is what i wanna know	[18:44]
jurov	0.99btc	[18:45]
BingoBoingo	polac: That's what you'd get. Betting 1.0 BTC would return to you a total of 0.99 BTC	[18:45]
polac	so intstad of win i loss	[18:45]
polac	0.1 btc?	[18:45]
BingoBoingo	polac: 0.01 BTC, but yes. Because it is a sure thing.	[18:46]
polac	i undersatnd now so the calculator say the total profit i get included the . amount of the bet i pplace + profit?	[18:46]
deadweasel	polac, minus your late betting	[18:46]
deadweasel	meaning you're too late to make money on this bet if you bet yes and win.	[18:47]
deadweasel	you should probabgly wait until the betting is closed, and place it then.	[18:47]
deadweasel	it seems to work out well for people.	[18:47]
deadweasel	they learn LOADS	[18:47]
jurov	in other words, the weight of your bet is less than bitbet fee	[18:47]
polac	another question iwhen i put the (Send winnings to originating address) i dont need to do nothing more. will be automatly send to the wallet from the money come from	[18:48]
polac	ok so its only good when the weight its high?	[18:48]
jurov	yes, that's the principle, bet early, get more	[18:49]
kakobrekla	get a better rate	[18:49]
kakobrekla	yeah	[18:49]
kakobrekla	i dont understand the last question re sending winning to originating address	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	so how much i get? bcz calculators say i get 0.99 << you get exacty what it says, 0.99	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel evil boy!	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	polac IF you run a full node wallet, then yes you control the address, and so will be ok.	[18:52]
jurov	polac: you need a wallet that contains actual private keys (such as bitcoin-qt/multibit/electrum)	[18:52]
mircea_popescu	if however you do not run a full node, then you will be in trouble most likely.	[18:52]
mircea_popescu	use a special address to receive.	[18:52]
kakobrekla	well, blockchain.info wallet is client side rite, so that should work too	[18:52]
polac	i use.. electrum client	[18:52]
polac	its ok?	[18:52]
jurov	yes, with electrum you'll be fine with sending to originating address	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	just make sure you don't delete it/lose that wallet in the meanwhile.	[18:53]
kakobrekla	the bad thing about using same address is that you lose stats	[18:53]
kakobrekla	unless you send from same one each time	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	well maybe to him it's a good thing	[18:54]
kakobrekla	i gues	[18:54]
kakobrekla	s	[18:54]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/30/italy-shocked-mafia-fatal-hit-3-year-old-boy/	[18:54]
ozbot	Italy shocked at Mafia's fatal hit of 3-year-old boy - Washington Times	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	The boy, Nicola “Coco” Campolongo, age 3, was shot along with his grandfather, Giuseppe Iannicelli, and his grandfather’s companion, age 27, CNN reported.	[18:55]
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mircea_popescu	gotta love the fucktarded press. "unprecedented" ? these people have perhaps not seen... i dunno, the godfather ?	[18:57]
mircea_popescu	fucking trilogy debuts by kids being killed.	[18:57]
deadweasel	polac: be sure your bet will make it on-time. check for slow transactions, include a transaction fee.	[18:59]
deadweasel	and don't bet more than you can stand to lose. it's gambling, not investing.	[18:59]
polac	that is the trick on bitbet.i	[18:59]
kakobrekla	also check in bitbet footer if the last block was 14 hrs ago	[18:59]
polac	us	[18:59]
deadweasel	also the same goes for investing	[18:59]
polac	fee shouldbee deduce automatic	[18:59]
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deadweasel	you should be deduced automatically	[18:59]
polac	its better .. trading i think	[19:00]
polac	pay outs are very small	[19:00]
deadweasel	not if you're early on the correct side of a bet.	[19:00]
polac	somes of you have won a bet lately	[19:01]
kakobrekla	its fairly easy to do 0 fee tx which will always get included in the first found block	[19:01]
deadweasel	that might require reading a document!	[19:03]
kakobrekla	or i can tell you how its done	[19:03]
deadweasel	nah	[19:06]
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mircea_popescu	polac http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	yes, some people won some bets recently.	[19:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.24310363 = 2.431 BTC	[19:07]
polac	16-12-13 19:19 Yes 63`178 1.00000000 13ZmZ 1.17699815	[19:07]
polac	1 b tc.. bet and get .0.17 in 2 months common	[19:08]
polac	trading that btc just 1.. you can get it in 2 or 2.5 btc in 2 monhts	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	there was a guy who got 0.4 BTC trading 200 ltc in twenty minutes yesterday	[19:08]
ThickAsThieves	huh?	[19:08]
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ThickAsThieves	lol	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	polac, will you be naming ALL the ways one can increase their coins?	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	then we can exhaustively paint them against betting	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	or we could save the time and send you to just-dice	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	but the question is valid, ik wonder what's the best return on a bet on bitbet so far	[19:12]
ThickAsThieves	probly the guys who took my 50btc	[19:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0485 = 0.388 BTC [-]	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla mind running a coupla queries ?	[19:12]
ThickAsThieves	in dollars, probly the 2bn bet, in bitcoins, probly a BFL bet?	[19:13]
mircea_popescu	in bitcoin ofc.	[19:13]
kakobrekla	well, i gotta take my gf out for a walk nao but when i get back sure	[19:13]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440174.msg4842137#msg4842137 << mwahaha	[19:13]
ozbot	The Emerging Bitcoin Civil War	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla lol that sounded pretty hot. take pics.	[19:14]
kakobrekla	lol.	[19:14]
benkay	so guys when my shitty corner of the world falls apart how do i stay hooked into the btc transaction network?	[19:16]
benkay	how, long term, do i keep computers that can broadcast transactions running?	[19:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	can't you just move like everyone else ?	[19:19]
benkay	there's a bet in there!	[19:20]
benkay	on one side, that internet and computers never return to this area	[19:20]
benkay	on the other that they do	[19:20]
ThickAsThieves	just use a secret/encrypted channe;	[19:20]
ThickAsThieves	l	[19:20]
benkay	USA: the next africa?	[19:20]
ThickAsThieves	not in our lifetime	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	it's probably going to be illegal to use encryption in the us soon enough	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	(real encryption. you'll have to use apple/google/ms/w/e)	[19:21]
ThickAsThieves	maybe you are right	[19:21]
ThickAsThieves	if the NSA motto is "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"...	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	it's already illegal to use encryption in the uk.	[19:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile my motto is "fuck with me and maybe you'll live to regret it"	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	i wonder which is more appealing to the average person.	[19:21]
benkay	probably the former.	[19:22]
ThickAsThieves	No Trans Fat is more appealling to the avg person	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	i guess we have a political debate to settle huh.	[19:22]
benkay	political debate?	[19:22]
ThickAsThieves	debate!	[19:23]
benkay	more about nature of derpy average humans - most don't care about the tyrant under whom they sweat.	[19:23]
ThickAsThieves	how can we decentralize this problem?	[19:23]
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ThickAsThieves	decentralization is always the answer	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	benkay in which case they don't get a vote at all.	[19:24]
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benkay	mircea_popescu: you're all over today man. first it was what's more appealing to the bell curve and now it's about who gets to vote on a thing.	[19:24]
benkay	i thought there was no voting in the future, just the decisions of btcholders.	[19:25]
twizt	lol	[19:25]
ThickAsThieves	he means voting via decisions	[19:26]
jurov	;;seen pigeons	[19:26]
gribble	pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 19 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: should make an exact mpex clone with no new functionality just charge 5% to view it in a bootstrap template	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	lol	[19:27]
mircea_popescu	LANGUAGE BETRAYS ME!	[19:27]
mircea_popescu	let's learn esperanto.	[19:27]
KRS1	lol esperanto	[19:30]
ThickAsThieves	Mi fartas bone.	[19:30]
KRS1	Lord High Potentate would be proud.	[19:30]
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pankkake	"it's probably going to be illegal to use encryption" history repeating itself!	[19:31]
pankkake	I remember the stupid laws we had in France, where anything >128 bit was forbidden	[19:32]
benkay	how is the cardano protected from RNG diddling?	[19:32]
pankkake	of course, only big businesses were affected, the software was there for regular people	[19:33]
asciilifeform	benkay: if you can be more specific, you'll get a more interesting answer.	[19:33]
benkay	othis mid-delivery interception of computer bits and pieces to put hardware on 'em before they hit the data center	[19:34]
benkay	argh	[19:34]
benkay	i'm thinking about this mid-delivery interception of computer bits and pieces to put hardware on 'em before they hit the data center in a fashion that the end-customer is generally never wiser	[19:34]
pankkake	hmm… how about a seal?	[19:34]
asciilifeform	pankkake: seals inspire unjustified confidence	[19:35]
asciilifeform	the art of forging seals is centuries old.	[19:35]
benkay	what kind of seal actually works? i'm aware of any.	[19:35]
benkay	unaware*	[19:35]
pankkake	I don't have any knowledge of a foolproof seal	[19:35]
benkay	so what's the point?	[19:35]
deadweasel	feelings	[19:35]
pankkake	well there mihgt be	[19:35]
deadweasel	want to feel secure	[19:35]
pankkake	no	[19:35]
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pankkake	perhaps ship the device in two parts?	[19:36]
benkay	man i don't wanna 'feel' secure!	[19:36]
benkay	i want to know how NSA plans to address the in-shipment diddling of computer bits by fiat organizations.	[19:38]
asciilifeform	pankkake: there are two identical rngs (removable.) each is an analogue device, with convenient probe points and a very simple circuit (29 parts, 26 of them passives)	[19:38]
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pankkake	I was thinking of some sort of cryptographic seal; you'd have to activate the device in some way	[19:39]
pankkake	of course, I have no idea if it can work	[19:39]
asciilifeform	FW is signed, and users will be encouraged to suck it in and verify the sig	[19:40]
asciilifeform	each unit will also come with a set of high-res photographs of its internals, signed with my personal key.	[19:40]
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pankkake	well, that was the best I could come up with when thinking about "signing" the hardware	[19:41]
asciilifeform	the only real defence against an elaborate fake is to actually understand the function of the device	[19:41]
asciilifeform	the way a Pashtun understands his Kalash.	[19:41]
pankkake	it won't prevent tampering by highly qualified bad guys	[19:41]
asciilifeform	a sufficiently qualified enemy deserves your arse.	[19:42]
ThickAsThieves	put anthrax inside, problem solved	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	a sufficiently qualified enemy deserves your arse. <<	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	only if "qualified" = his q - his q.	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	i mean his q - your q.	[19:43]
pankkake	the future is drone delivery with complete video feed of the fly path, with blockchain time proofs!	[19:43]
pankkake	hm, I'm not sure the second part solves anything	[19:45]
pankkake	video feed would be sent to the expeditor, obviously	[19:45]
asciilifeform	there is no 100% defence, even in principle, against a world-class forger	[19:46]
asciilifeform	one can take photos, sufficiently detailed to include imperfections of the pcb, solder joints, etc. and sign them	[19:46]
asciilifeform	but this requires the user to actually give a damn	[19:46]
asciilifeform	and sit with a jeweler's loupe, etc.	[19:46]
pankkake	is there any way to take pictures in a reproducible way?	[19:48]
asciilifeform	pankkake: it depends what you mean by 'reproducible'	[19:49]
pankkake	the images would then be comparable by a machine	[19:49]
asciilifeform	if you are considering a machine for the comparison, you are in a state of sin.	[19:49]
benkay	there is also the glitter fingernail polish approach	[19:50]
ThickAsThieves	it could be done sorta	[19:50]
asciilifeform	the idiots are 'wired' almost certainly stole that one from this channel.	[19:50]
ThickAsThieves	get a lightbox, calibrate the camera mount placement	[19:50]
pankkake	that was my idea, yes	[19:50]
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mircea_popescu	http://pastebin.com/hDR8YZhv << i loled.	[19:53]
ozbot	octopus Mike Hearn defaced bitcoinBull Inaba QuantPlus Raoul Duke cryptoa - Pastebin.com	[19:53]
pankkake	interestingly I had Mike Hearn without knowing anything about his function	[19:54]
pankkake	function as in "official title"	[19:54]
ThickAsThieves	someone's ignore list?	[19:54]
pankkake	mine	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves pankkake's idea of a blog.	[19:54]
pankkake	haha	[19:54]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[19:54]
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pankkake	short term project is to stop forums and blog more	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	it DOES have css, so.	[19:55]
pankkake	I basically replaced a forum I got banned from by another	[19:55]
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ThickAsThieves	kako should just add a blog section to the #b-a website	[19:56]
ThickAsThieves	then let channers post	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	so i just crafted a double bacon burger. sadly, it can't be eaten.	[19:56]
pankkake	you can create a "planet"	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	dude this isn't such a horrid idea.	[19:56]
pankkake	as in http://planet.debian.org/	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	post via assbot, only let ppl in its wot post.	[19:56]
ThickAsThieves	itd work way better than all of us trying to start our own thing	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	collective blog.	[19:57]
benkay	sounds socialist	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves it'd work cheaper, not sure better.	[19:57]
pankkake	benkay: yeah. that's why planet's better; everyone blogs how he sees fits, the planet aggregates	[19:57]
ThickAsThieves	the marketer in me thinks itd be better all around	[19:58]
ThickAsThieves	save trilema	[19:58]
asciilifeform	next thing we know, we're all moving into a cult commune with a hundred years of canned food and auto-turrets...	[19:58]
ThickAsThieves	which does pretty good	[19:58]
benkay	auto turrets for all!	[19:58]
pankkake	so readers go to one place if they wish, but bloggers are where they want	[19:58]
ThickAsThieves	so a feed reader, curated	[19:58]
ThickAsThieves	rather, filtered	[19:59]
pankkake	yes	[19:59]
ThickAsThieves	or both	[19:59]
ThickAsThieves	but curated sounds so centralixed	[19:59]
benkay	i don't want readers who can't subscribe to an rss feed on their own	[19:59]
benkay	shit, i don't want readers who don't curate their own reading lists!	[19:59]
ThickAsThieves	yknow chrome doesnt make it easy	[19:59]
pankkake	I know a blog that has only a RSS feed	[19:59]
ThickAsThieves	i know blogs that dnt have em at all	[19:59]
benkay	cryptome doesn't have an rss feed for that matter	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	next thing we know, we're all moving into a cult commune with a hundred years of canned food and auto-turrets... >>> and nudity for womenz under 35 ?	[20:01]
asciilifeform	ya	[20:01]
pankkake	maddox.xmission.com used to not have one, too	[20:01]
ThickAsThieves	you could also implement the trilema blog fees	[20:01]
ThickAsThieves	to support assbot's family	[20:01]
ThickAsThieves	and the writers	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	anyway, buncha people have blogs, which imo is the best thing.	[20:01]
asciilifeform	ThickAsThieves: would be interesting to see a widget like 'metafilter' with a 1btc entry.	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	but for the lazy bums a global stopgap can't hurt	[20:02]
pankkake	"Assets Assimilated"	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	this way we get best of both worlds, all sorts of social phenomena on shared blogs	[20:02]
ThickAsThieves	in this sense i am indeed a lazy bum	[20:02]
ThickAsThieves	occassionally an urge to tell a tale	[20:02]
ThickAsThieves	but to make a blog?	[20:02]
ThickAsThieves	to get readers?	[20:02]
ThickAsThieves	meh	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	in other words : public fucking and private fucking aren't even the same fucking. they don't replace each other.	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves forget the readers, who cares.	[20:03]
pankkake	creating a blog is easy. wordpress.com, done	[20:03]
ThickAsThieves	i happen to believe that art is for the viewer, not the creator	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	this novel nuttery with the readers. who cared, cca 1970, when telling a joke, how many people in the office were gathered round ?	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	it's like "o dan's joke was so much better, even sammy from the mailroom was here"	[20:03]
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ThickAsThieves	its sharing of experience, it has value beyond its own existence	[20:04]
ThickAsThieves	thus the more it is consumed, the more impact it has	[20:05]
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benkay	moreover, its mostly the firm's partners that the joke is intended for, not the typists and accountants.	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves maybe your readers all live in 2200. how do yu know ?	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	art can be for the viewer, but that doesn't necessarilyu mean google analytics is meaningful.	[20:05]
ThickAsThieves	i thought you were more existential?	[20:06]
ThickAsThieves	like you care about 2200	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	i don't. i also don't care about readers as such.	[20:07]
ThickAsThieves	i also believe in creating an environment of facilitation	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	we're discussing your view here	[20:07]
ThickAsThieves	if you want a flower to grow, maybe plant a seed	[20:07]
ThickAsThieves	hell, maybe you even water it!	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	dude, if you got a seed plant it already, forget the flower. what, keep it in your pocket till it becomes lint ?	[20:08]
ThickAsThieves	well i did say it was a lazy idea	[20:08]
benkay	what's the best time to plant a tree?	[20:08]
benkay	twenty years ago.	[20:08]
benkay	what's the second best time to plant a tree?	[20:08]
benkay	today.	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	the big loser in all of this is, of course,	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	kako.	[20:09]
ThickAsThieves	not 19 years ago?	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	it's like...	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	"hey, implement this thing ? " "may i spend some time with my girl ? " "ok"	[20:09]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	comes back... hey, we got 43987593485 more things to implement.	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	DARE YOU take off ever again ?	[20:09]
ThickAsThieves	then he gets mad at the girl "see what happens!"	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	poor chick ends up with irish sunglasses...	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	"all i did is walk!"	[20:10]
ThickAsThieves	walk yourself next time!	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	here's the leash, you got hands, go walk!	[20:10]
ThickAsThieves	ThickAsThieves: would be interesting to see a widget like 'metafilter' with a 1btc entry. <<<< i recall at least a couple "idea men" saying theyd make similar things	[20:11]
ThickAsThieves	also, i think mjr has a micro blog payment thingy	[20:11]
ThickAsThieves	blottery?	[20:11]
ThickAsThieves	incentivized reading or such	[20:11]
ThickAsThieves	in the past i suggested similar,	[20:12]
pankkake	I used to have a bot posting RSS feed updates to channels, but it was some Ruby crap and blew up	[20:12]
ThickAsThieves	run a service that holds like .1 btc for you in an account, it runs a chrome plugin,	[20:12]
pankkake	but that kind of stuff is quite useful	[20:12]
ThickAsThieves	it autopays in blog fees while urfing	[20:13]
ThickAsThieves	and gives you a popup if over a certain price	[20:13]
ThickAsThieves	to approve	[20:13]
ThickAsThieves	frictionless micropayments	[20:13]
pankkake	that's how the web should have been	[20:13]
pankkake	instead of advertising everywhere	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	^	[20:13]
ThickAsThieves	well it will	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	as i said! fucktards were allowed on the web before payments were put in, fucked everyhing up	[20:14]
ThickAsThieves	the advertising thing is almost fully milked	[20:14]
pankkake	isn't advertising one of the first things to be cut, when companies have financial troubles?	[20:14]
ThickAsThieves	small biz	[20:15]
ThickAsThieves	not big biz	[20:15]
pankkake	oh, I thought it was	[20:15]
ThickAsThieves	its backwards, yeah	[20:15]
ThickAsThieves	small biz cuts the thing they need most	[20:15]
ThickAsThieves	its very difficult for small biz to interpret value from marketing	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	or to avoid being scammed by marketeers.	[20:16]
ThickAsThieves	was my next point	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	last thing a small biz needs is to try and fucking compete with the government-backed wasters.	[20:17]
ThickAsThieves	they are bombarded with "opportunities"	[20:17]
ThickAsThieves	a small biz gets burned repeatedly	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	whenever i hear of a start-up working on a superbowl ad...	[20:17]
ThickAsThieves	and then when they finally bump into someone that can actually help them, they have lost all faith	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	speaking of which, after talking about advertising yest i got some pretty interesting info... seems superbowl is also pretty much dead.	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	they can barely sell tickets anymore.	[20:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.615 = 2.46 BTC [-]	[20:18]
ThickAsThieves	bitbet shall transcend sports after all then	[20:19]
ThickAsThieves	bets on superbowl advertisoing revenue are way more fun anyway	[20:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.04899999 = 2.94 BTC [+] {2}	[20:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00350877 = 0.1053 BTC [-] {2}	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:21]
mircea_popescu	"My name is Manthan, but you can call me nahtnam."	[20:21]
mircea_popescu	people today!	[20:21]
mircea_popescu	and unrelatedly... "50 percent of physicians reporting that they’ve consulted wikipedia for information on health conditions."	[20:22]
mircea_popescu	nofucking woder health insurance is so expensive.	[20:22]
ThickAsThieves	the other 50% use webmd	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:24]
twizt	time to pretend to be a doctor	[20:24]
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mircea_popescu	i imagine for every person getting scammed by some bitcoin ceo	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	there's 100 or 1k patients beinbg scammed by some webdoctor	[20:26]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-] {2}	[20:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]	[20:29]
benkay	far better to have a friend who's been through the american nursing training	[20:30]
benkay	than visit a hospital and have to trust some 'doctor'	[20:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04500022 = 0.225 BTC [-]	[20:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04500022 = 0.225 BTC [-]	[20:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02989907 = 0.1495 BTC [-]	[20:42]
pankkake	http://assass.headfucking.net/	[20:43]
ozbot	Assets Assimilated	[20:43]
ThickAsThieves	nice	[20:46]
ThickAsThieves	the url is a bit... abrasive	[20:46]
pankkake	~10 minute setup :)	[20:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58301004 BTC [-]	[20:47]
pankkake	I'd take any virtual host given, say planet.bitcoin-assets.com	[20:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02989907 = 0.1794 BTC [-]	[20:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02989907 = 0.1794 BTC [-]	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	assass lol	[20:55]
pankkake	;;ud buttbuttinate	[20:55]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=buttbuttinate \| buttbuttinate. The word "assassinate" after it has been mangled by a particularly stupid censor. It is a shame we still aren't sure who buttbuttinated JFK. He was in ...	[20:55]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: buttbuttinate	[20:55]
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ThickAsThieves	is there a transcript of all the NY hearings?	[20:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20233 @ 0.00089612 = 18.1312 BTC [-] {2}	[21:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 417 @ 0.00089601 = 0.3736 BTC [-]	[21:01]
ThickAsThieves	https://citp.princeton.edu/event/andresen/	[21:03]
ozbot	Gavin Andresen ’88 is Chief Scientist at the Bitcoin Foundation and lead developer of the Bitcoin	[21:03]
ThickAsThieves	this from a bitcoin magazine ad: http://bankinnovation.info/	[21:05]
ThickAsThieves	invitation only	[21:05]
ThickAsThieves	but advertises on bitcoin mag?	[21:05]
ThickAsThieves	Bank Innovation 2014 will be a forum for executives and innovators to collaborate and share ideas to improve customer acquisition and retention through new products and strategies.	[21:05]
ThickAsThieves	ha there is a different Neo presenting	[21:06]
ThickAsThieves	Navin is founder and CEO of Neo, a startup that aims to disrupt credit risk assessment of thin-credit and sub-prime consumers by leveraging alternative credit data.	[21:07]
pankkake	Neo & Buzzwords	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	apparently all noobs have to go through the same wringer	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	be they princes or paupers.	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	whatever, bitcoin is here to cater.	[21:08]
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ThickAsThieves	http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304691904579348791505926788	[21:14]
ozbot	Perkinsnacht - WSJ.com	[21:14]
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ThickAsThieves	i learned a new word, commentariat, thanks wsj!	[21:14]
deadweasel	chief scientist?!?!	[21:15]
KRS1	sup, chief	[21:16]
ThickAsThieves	chief scientist get many wampum	[21:17]
kakobrekla	but the question is valid, ik wonder what's the best return on a bet on bitbet so far	[21:18]
kakobrekla	5758.8%	[21:18]
mike_c	anticipation..	[21:18]
kakobrekla	hm?	[21:19]
mike_c	link??	[21:19]
mike_c	who won the lotto?	[21:19]
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kakobrekla	well i guess anyone can compile this list since all the stuff is public	[21:19]
kakobrekla	http://bitbet.us/winnersgains.txt	[21:19]
mike_c	hm, but hard to tell which bet the wagers were on, right?	[21:20]
mike_c	^ derp	[21:20]
kakobrekla	Bet #1834 on #277: 0.01000000 B in, 0.58588048 B out, 0.57588048 B gain (5758.8%)	[21:20]
mike_c	yeah, i glanced over the "on #277" somehow	[21:20]
kakobrekla	http://bitbet.us/bet/277/	[21:21]
ozbot	BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013	[21:21]
kakobrekla	and more	[21:21]
kakobrekla	http://bitbet.us/bet/277/#1834	[21:21]
ozbot	BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013	[21:21]
kakobrekla	hm	[21:21]
kakobrekla	http://bitbet.us/bet/277/#b1834	[21:21]
ozbot	BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013	[21:21]
mike_c	277 was a special bet though	[21:21]
kakobrekla	still no	[21:21]
kakobrekla	a wait you cant do that	[21:21]
ThickAsThieves	http://bitbet.us/bet/277/#b2	[21:22]
ozbot	BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013	[21:22]
kakobrekla	ok well we can exclude that one if ya want	[21:22]
kakobrekla	if you throw it oout	[21:22]
kakobrekla	you get	[21:22]
kakobrekla	Bet #161 on #42: 0.03000000 B in, 0.69300000 B out, 0.66300000 B gain (2210%)	[21:22]
mike_c	that was a house bet. i'm curious what the best gain on a user bet was. i'll look through.	[21:23]
kakobrekla	grrr	[21:23]
kakobrekla	cant satisfy assets	[21:23]
mike_c	a demanding bunch.	[21:23]
ThickAsThieves	that's best in %, what's best in coin qty?	[21:24]
kakobrekla	but house bet 'out' can go to user mike_c	[21:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 33 @ 0.02957418 = 0.9759 BTC [-] {4}	[21:24]
mike_c	true	[21:24]
kakobrekla	ThickAsThieves hm you mean most coin won or biggest gain?	[21:25]
kakobrekla	hm	[21:25]
kakobrekla	well gains you got ther	[21:25]
kakobrekla	you want biggest bet or what	[21:25]
ThickAsThieves	most coin won	[21:26]
ThickAsThieves	by one bet	[21:26]
kakobrekla	so biggest gain in btc amount, not by percentage	[21:26]
kakobrekla	or biggest 'out' ?	[21:27]
ThickAsThieves	biggest gain	[21:27]
ThickAsThieves	i can probly just put this in a spreadsheet and sort	[21:27]
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kakobrekla	1 sec	[21:29]
mike_c	this might be it. over 1000% return, not bad.	[21:29]
mike_c	http://bitbet.us/bet/8/#b4	[21:29]
ozbot	BitBet - Higgs boson support	[21:29]
ThickAsThieves	Bet #496 on #7: 100.00000000 B in 198.99762832 B out 98.99762832 B gain (99%)	[21:30]
mike_c	yeah, but you have to multiply the BTC x the exchange rate at the time :)	[21:31]
kakobrekla	http://bitbet.us/winnersgainsbtc.txt	[21:31]
kakobrekla	i think.	[21:31]
ThickAsThieves	idc about exchange rate	[21:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.074 = 0.37 BTC [-]	[21:31]
ThickAsThieves	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/#b36	[21:32]
ozbot	BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st	[21:32]
ThickAsThieves	that guy	[21:32]
ThickAsThieves	321.65447788btc gain	[21:33]
kakobrekla	http://bitbet.us/stats/1AnUirXjTtaV5gsS5B51zTFjj4aa8rhaST/	[21:33]
kakobrekla	now you can follow him	[21:33]
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ThickAsThieves	looks all funded from MPEx	[21:37]
kakobrekla	dunno talk to mpex re that :)	[21:38]
ThickAsThieves	scams!	[21:40]
ThickAsThieves	https://blockchain.info/address/1LSLFzSMD1ZDSiNV1bvJm9QNj1EhnC49eg	[21:40]
ozbot	Bitcoin Address 1LSLFzSMD1ZDSiNV1bvJm9QNj1EhnC49eg	[21:40]
kakobrekla	whats that?	[21:42]
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ThickAsThieves	the IN tx	[21:43]
kakobrekla	anyway, if someone wanted to hide something, it isnt particularly hard	[21:44]
ThickAsThieves	from mpexy wallet to bitbet	[21:44]
kakobrekla	so someone made a bet with making a withdrawal on mpex	[21:44]
ThickAsThieves	probly	[21:44]
kakobrekla	>I fully believe we need to hire a PR manager, as my time can be much more effectively used actually working on things as opposed to maintaining this thread.	[21:45]
kakobrekla	doing what zactly, jerking off to free porn?	[21:45]
ThickAsThieves	who said that?	[21:46]
kakobrekla	that hard?	[21:46]
ThickAsThieves	Ukyo?	[21:46]
kakobrekla	the name starts with garr and ends with retard	[21:46]
ThickAsThieves	oh, he still talks?	[21:47]
kakobrekla	yea.	[21:47]
pankkake	I know but I read it before. anyway, those PR guys are useless if they're just remote random forum users with no info	[21:47]
ThickAsThieves	useless in the honest sense, at least	[21:47]
pankkake	what he really needs is a guy to take over the business	[21:47]
kakobrekla	he needs to be raped by niggers.txt, not a pr person.	[21:47]
pankkake	in the honest sense?	[21:47]
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ThickAsThieves	well hiring a PR is a great move for a scammer	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02941176 = 0.3529 BTC [-]	[21:48]
kakobrekla	pankkake there is no business there	[21:48]
ThickAsThieves	especially if you hire a populare forumite	[21:48]
kakobrekla	nothing to 'take over'	[21:48]
kakobrekla	except pile of shit and scam	[21:48]
kakobrekla	whod want taht	[21:48]
pankkake	the mining hardware, the coins	[21:48]
ThickAsThieves	ans especiallu if hiring means getting paid in shares	[21:48]
kakobrekla	he lost a bunch of coin	[21:48]
kakobrekla	doing stupid shit	[21:48]
kakobrekla	he baiscally defaulted	[21:48]
pankkake	well, yeah	[21:49]
kakobrekla	and will pay out of his own pocket, he says	[21:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02820002 = 0.3102 BTC [-] {2}	[21:49]
kakobrekla	but the diff will go to 50410 billion trillion zillion	[21:49]
kakobrekla	and he wont pay shit.	[21:49]
ThickAsThieves	i guess these scams will exist til the diff calms down	[21:50]
ThickAsThieves	its just too easy	[21:50]
kakobrekla	>alincoln, I do realize that that would be the best case scenario for you. However, please acknowledge that I am taking a heavy loss on this one, so please accept a full refund of your initial investment Plus all dividends up to the last one that was paid. With that case, you've still made more money than just holding coins, which is pretty damn good.	[21:50]
ThickAsThieves	even now, people paying .65 for AM shares?!	[21:50]
kakobrekla	sounds zactly like inaba	[21:50]
kakobrekla	whos dick he was sucking not a few months ago.	[21:50]
kakobrekla	maybe sperms got in his brain	[21:50]
kakobrekla	and now this.	[21:51]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell polac here's a list : http://bitbet.us/bet/42/#b2 (2.2k%), http://bitbet.us/bet/380/#b5 1.5k%, http://bitbet.us/bet/8/#b3 1k% etc	[21:58]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	what he really needs is a guy to take over the business << pankkake has a point there.	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	buncha derps with no business want to hire pr ? pr to do what. what they need is someone to take over their LIFE	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	like, a parent.	[22:00]
pankkake	well, given his age…	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	ikr?	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	"the internet is not your daycare, ma'am"	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	instead of "protecting children"	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	fuck children. protect the adults.	[22:01]
kakobrekla	what he really needs is a guy to take over the business << pankkake has a point there. << no biz, no point.	[22:01]
pankkake	why do you guys hate him so much though?	[22:01]
deadweasel	maybe you should start S.BDEV, offering consultants for a % of business improvement profits.	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	i dun hate him.	[22:01]
ThickAsThieves	i dont cqare enough to hate	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel cheaper to just remake their "busness" properly.	[22:01]
ThickAsThieves	but i even tried leveling with him privately	[22:01]
deadweasel	oh ya	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	nobody goes around fixing bad hamburgers som,eone overcooked	[22:02]
ThickAsThieves	and all he did was beg to have his trust fixed	[22:02]
kakobrekla	its just the most straight forward scamfest to troll	[22:02]
ThickAsThieves	and when i said no, he negrated me	[22:02]
ThickAsThieves	just a scammer	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	http://devotionalsex.com/tumblr_lvhosf4H281qzn5vfo1_500.jpg	[22:02]
kakobrekla	i thought that middle girl has amish beard for a sec	[22:03]
ThickAsThieves	hehe me too	[22:03]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[22:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62280186 BTC [+]	[22:06]
pankkake	http://devotionalsex.com/ totally not a cult	[22:07]
ozbot	Devotional Sex	[22:07]
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mircea_popescu	it's a splendid idea, what. chicks getting dorks to lap them up and drool a lot.	[22:08]
punkman	"Lite Devotional Sex is for men who like most things about Devotional Sex, but are unwilling to meet the tough ejaculation restrictions of full Devotional Sex. "	[22:11]
kakobrekla	http://bou.si/4c/1391107866837.jpg	[22:11]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	you know, for the record : as weird as it may seem, this has been mainstream sexuality since about queen victoria up until 1970-1980.	[22:14]
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lippoper	what is up with the cars in subway?	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	only the introduction of effective cheap contraception and the rise of porn broke it up and sent the woman back on her knees	[22:14]
lippoper	kakobrekla	[22:15]
kakobrekla	lippoper i wont spoil the fun.	[22:15]
ThickAsThieves	it's reverting	[22:16]
ThickAsThieves	men want their mommies back	[22:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.0056 = 0.4368 BTC [-] {2}	[22:16]
lippoper	http://imgur.com/1MIysmP	[22:17]
ozbot	Vault of Satoshi, 24 h Trading volume - Imgur	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	certainly has a solid bedrock of interest.	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	and tbh... nttawwi.	[22:17]
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ThickAsThieves	;;ud nttawwi	[22:18]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/add.php \| Write for a large audience. Lots of people will read this, so give some background information. Don't name your friends. We'll reject inside jokes and definitions ...	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	not that there's anything wrong with it	[22:18]
ThickAsThieves	word	[22:19]
benkay	here's to setting women back on their knees	[22:19]
benkay	mine's crocheting a 'kneeling rug'	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	benkay careful you don't bit more than you can chew :D womenz can be a handful.	[22:19]
benkay	dem hardwood floors	[22:19]
benkay	yeah man i know!	[22:19]
kakobrekla	womenz can be a handful. < is that a handjob reference?	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:20]
KRS1	Bait:	[22:20]
KRS1	http://i.imgur.com/klA7PdP.jpg	[22:20]
benkay	but the most handfully they've ever gotten with me was when i wasn't regularly putting them on their knees.	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla how was the walk anyway	[22:20]
kakobrekla	very snowy	[22:20]
kakobrekla	got bout 40cm here	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	it's pleasant here, like maybe 5.	[22:20]
kakobrekla	its nice, clean and quiet	[22:20]
kakobrekla	but	[22:20]
kakobrekla	reminds of apple too much.	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	lol KRS1 you get points for clever shilling at least.	[22:21]
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KRS1	.bait	[22:29]
ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/6d4afc1cbeee08253375423ffe6cffe4/tumblr_mf3pjbe74Z1qaurevo1_1280.jpg	[22:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.58279556 = 5.2452 BTC [-] {5}	[22:30]
lippoper	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb11jieuGj1qgn6feo1_500.jpg	[22:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.580258 = 1.7408 BTC [-] {3}	[22:31]
lippoper	http://www.dcmagnates.com/dogecoin-and-quarkcoin-hot-other-altcoins-not-on-first-day-vault-of-satoshi-trading/	[22:31]
ozbot	Dogecoin and Quarkcoin Hot, Other Altcoins Not, on First Day Vault of Satoshi Trading – Digital Cu	[22:31]
lippoper	24hours in Vault of Satoshi \| Some noteworthy statistics:	[22:32]
lippoper	88% of trading was performed in USD, Bitcoin was the most traded crypto, combining for $19.4k, or 48% of the total dollar volume. In a not-too-distant 2nd was Dogecoin, combining for $14.1k, or 35% of the total volume. No other cryptos came remotely close. Litecoin was a distant 4th, posting just $2100 in total dollar volume.	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	why is this noteworthy ?	[22:33]
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lippoper	That's what the article said	[22:34]
lippoper	Are you telling me the news is lieing to me?	[22:34]
lippoper	lulz	[22:34]
pankkake	how do you get fiat in and out of VoS?	[22:34]
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mircea_popescu	im telling you there's no way to distinguish random scammy "exchange" #854687 from all the others and nobody really cares what alt coin traded five grand more than which other altcoin	[22:35]
lippoper	cool	[22:36]
lippoper	pankkake, they have a verification system	[22:36]
lippoper	takes 3 days for bank transfers to clear	[22:36]
pankkake	so it's bank transfers. good	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	you in any way involved?	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	anyone here know the DrahogErusiel forum character incidentally ?	[22:37]
lippoper	no just heard about it yesterday	[22:37]
lippoper	that VOS is based in Canada, where they are treating virtual currencies as a commodity	[22:37]
lippoper	so it should be legal and taxable over there	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	commodities are taxed in canada ?	[22:38]
lippoper	aren't all commodities taxed?	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	i think you may be confused.	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	dja mean like a sales tax ?	[22:39]
KRS1	fawk lippoper nice bait..much love	[22:39]
lippoper	yeah	[22:39]
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mircea_popescu	perhaps. all previous canadian exchanges ended up turning kinda shady so it never really got tested.	[22:39]
lippoper	KRS1 wasn't as good as your last one... ;-)	[22:39]
KRS1	i'll trade ya	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` you there ? or anyone wanna escrow some painting comission for me ?	[22:40]
lippoper	mp, i'm not sure how it all works to be honest, but from what I understand Canada gives businesses more confidence to deal in virtual currencies because at least they've defined it as a commodity.	[22:40]
KRS1	mircea_popescu: I have not yet been rated	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	sux.	[22:41]
deadweasel	nubbins`: you declaring your btc?	[22:43]
lippoper	KRS	[22:44]
lippoper	best bait yet http://25.media.tumblr.com/1926b2a2629f17a11ca05eb744365556/tumblr_mifmddq6CL1rkhr4mo1_500.jpg	[22:44]
twizt	nicee	[22:45]
twizt	only the one in the middle and left	[22:45]
pankkake	I'd take middle and right	[22:47]
KRS1	Mmm nice	[22:47]
deadweasel	i'm using my imagination (at work), i'll take the top 6	[22:47]
KRS1	left boobs too big	[22:47]
pankkake	no such thing	[22:48]
KRS1	deadweasel: theres left mid and right	[22:48]
KRS1	i like mid and right	[22:48]
*	deadweasel plows the invisible cunt	[22:49]
deadweasel	it's like i'm 13 again!	[22:49]
lippoper	i'll take one for the team and grab the big boobed girl on the left	[22:49]
lippoper	lol	[22:49]
deadweasel	kind man, lippoper	[22:49]
lippoper	such wingman	[22:49]
mircea_popescu	the fountain of ircyouth	[22:49]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04899999 = 0.196 BTC [+]	[22:50]
lippoper	very motorboat	[22:50]
lippoper	wow	[22:50]
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KRS1	lol	[22:52]
KRS1	wonder what sex games can be driven by btc	[22:52]
Dimsler_	i tried to buy pimpcoin	[22:53]
Dimsler_	from the creater	[22:53]
Dimsler_	refused to sell it to me	[22:53]
twizt	lol	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	why ?	[22:54]
KRS1	need something with the allure of sex, addiction of dice and the ease of payment of BTC.	[22:54]
twizt	win a escort KRS1	[22:54]
Dimsler_	to have all the whores and johns using it?	[22:54]
twizt	box bet for escorts	[22:55]
KRS1	Heroin delivery by late night Bait?	[22:55]
twizt	fill the box	[22:55]
twizt	winner gets 3 hrs	[22:55]
twizt	with XYZ pornstar	[22:55]
twizt	= business	[22:55]
twizt	LOL	[22:55]
Dimsler_	sex industry is going to be the next step for btc	[22:55]
KRS1	not bad i have some contacts for that hmm	[22:55]
KRS1	just local tho	[22:55]
twizt	use a site like eros	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	sex industry is kinda thick, kinda dead and doesn't really need a special coin	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	nor could they use it.	[22:55]
Dimsler_	pimpcoin is genious	[22:55]
KRS1	i know the guy who bought bitcoin.xxx	[22:55]
Dimsler_	if you went on the backpage	[22:55]
twizt	international yo	[22:55]
Dimsler_	and started advertising it to girls	[22:56]
Dimsler_	you'd probably get some users	[22:56]
Dimsler_	imagine if your a whore	[22:56]
Dimsler_	and offer to take btc?	[22:56]
Dimsler_	imagine the traffic you'd get	[22:56]
twizt	lol	[22:56]
Dimsler_	from the advertising alone	[22:56]
twizt	pay ur hoes with pimp coin	[22:56]
Dimsler_	it'll be like overstock.com	[22:56]
KRS1	mircea_popescu: the porn industry does NOT have a way to take micropayments	[22:56]
Dimsler_	except no shitty lawnchairs	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	Dimsler_ you obviously missed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435750.msg4796386#msg4796386	[22:56]
assbot	123!	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	KRS1 or any product those micropayments'd be for.	[22:56]
KRS1	damn	[22:57]
KRS1	i guess	[22:57]
Dimsler_	mircea_popescu, in most countries whores have pimps	[22:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00283294 = 0.1926 BTC [+] {3}	[22:57]
Dimsler_	and a smart pimp should be on the btc bandwagon	[22:57]
Dimsler_	for monetary control of his steed of whores	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	pimps will take anything you pay them.	[22:57]
Dimsler_	think about it, they can't skim from the pimp	[22:57]
Dimsler_	the pimp controls the transaction	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	you ever been one ?	[22:57]
Dimsler_	he can chronologically time stamp the whores whereabouts	[22:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 685 @ 0.00283576 = 1.9425 BTC [+] {3}	[22:58]
Dimsler_	no	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	well, do you hang out / go drinking with any ?	[22:58]
twizt	KRS1 are u a dev?	[22:58]
Dimsler_	guys that run girls?	[22:58]
Dimsler_	i try not to associate with the dreges of society	[22:58]
Dimsler_	if thats what you're implying	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	then why do you try to solve their problems ?	[22:59]
Dimsler_	for my own personal gain obviously	[22:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.0028399 = 0.1051 BTC [+]	[22:59]
Dimsler_	to collect me 3% on pimpcoin	[22:59]
Dimsler_	or other	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	yes, but the problem is it all stems from your own personal delusion, i'd say.	[22:59]
Dimsler_	greed is my motivational factor	[22:59]
Dimsler_	which other ones did you want me to have?	[22:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00284 = 0.1846 BTC [+]	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	well, that's fine, but it doesn't help in this angle.	[23:00]
Dimsler_	i love all the preaching bitcoiners how they are going to be saving farmers in argentina or africa	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	anyway : pimps will take whatever the customer pays.	[23:00]
Dimsler_	fact is btcs main use will be for illicit purposes	[23:00]
Dimsler_	ofcourse he will	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is interesting for the student/teen that doubles as a hooker on her own	[23:00]
twizt	hookercoin	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	because that way she can't get caught, not really, and moreover she gets the crowd she likes	[23:00]
twizt	has it been made yet?	[23:00]
twizt	LOL	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	(ie, white dorks/nerds)	[23:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00284999 = 0.1425 BTC [+]	[23:01]
Dimsler_	well bitcoin is for anyone who doesn't want to A) have a problem with asset seizure B) wants to hide there activity financially C) want to launder there proceeds	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	right ?	[23:01]
Dimsler_	so why wouldn't the pimp facilitate the usage of bitcoin	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	so the last thing a pimp wants is crypto.	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	the pimp and the govt have in fact the exact same interests :	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	a stable of cattle they're exploiting.	[23:01]
Dimsler_	ofcourse but the pimp is operating within his own brutalizing operation	[23:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0028462 = 0.2277 BTC [-] {2}	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	derp.	[23:02]
Dimsler_	outside of the norms of the government criminal gang	[23:02]
Dimsler_	hes not paying taxing or utilize the court system for conflict dispute	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	anyway.	[23:02]
twizt	government = real mafia	[23:02]
twizt	lol	[23:02]
KRS1	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GZlJGERbvE	[23:02]
ozbot	Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock - YouTube	[23:02]
twizt	100% racket	[23:02]
Dimsler_	well mircea_popescu is correct	[23:02]
Dimsler_	countries are giant farms	[23:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0028399 = 0.1988 BTC [-]	[23:03]
Dimsler_	they have the slaves, the brutalizing class, the high preists, and the farm keepers	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	anyway, more's the point : i been trying to get the fucktarded girls on crypto for 2 years.	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	they're dumb as rocks, lazy as a limp cock and proud like peacocks.	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	it's slow going, and in the end who the fuck cares.	[23:03]
Dimsler_	thats why a simple pimpcoin interface	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	lead that linked thread, you'll get the gist of it.	[23:03]
KRS1	The grass is greener on the other side.	[23:08]
KRS1	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngfiDVr495w	[23:08]
ozbot	Julian Marley - Boom draw - YouTube	[23:08]
KRS1	lippoper: ^^ for you ganja man	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/f6287083cc8bb81a459ba829bfda86db/tumblr_mic74zp9mF1ru15g3o1_500.jpg	[23:11]
lippoper	nice thanks mon	[23:11]
pankkake	the tomatoes are more attractive than the girl	[23:12]
lippoper	lol	[23:13]
twizt	fake tits	[23:13]
lippoper	aww how fappable	[23:14]
lippoper	http://24.media.tumblr.com/19e62a8bcb882dcd8c847d172a627d92/tumblr_mmx4ed9O2f1rwegl4o1_500.jpg	[23:14]
pankkake	nice!	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	nice tomatoes.	[23:15]
lippoper	yay dogecoin has reached coinmarketcap.com's #5 position	[23:15]
lippoper	oh wait	[23:16]
lippoper	slipped back to 6	[23:16]
lippoper	nvm	[23:16]
pankkake	sometimes Nxt breaks, too	[23:16]
mircea_popescu	considering ripples are #2 there... lol.	[23:19]
pankkake	http://photos.teenplanet.org/content/atomicfrog/AF%20Pix/Time%20For%20a%20Trip/Time_for_a_Trip_48.JPG	[23:21]
lippoper	wow	[23:22]
lippoper	I bet the redhead is the hottest and you can't see any of her assets	[23:22]
pankkake	http://photos.teenplanet.org/content/atomicfrog/AF%20Pix/Time%20For%20a%20Trip/Time_for_a_Trip_49.JPG	[23:23]
pankkake	she seems to have the biggest	[23:23]
lippoper	I think i was right	[23:23]
lippoper	:-)	[23:23]
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pankkake	http://photos.teenplanet.org/content/atomicfrog/AF%20Pix/Udderly%20Insane%20Mix/853853577.jpg that one is just unfair…	[23:25]
twizt	cant see any of that	[23:25]
twizt	lol	[23:25]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 35 @ 0.02995081 = 1.0483 BTC [+] {6}	[23:30]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149458.msg4761716#msg4761716	[23:53]
ozbot	[CRYPTO-TRADE] Crypto-trade.com IPO and official thread	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	so much fail	[23:53]
Dimsler_	sorry i'm back	[23:56]
benkay	y'all made me strip the babe down and lose like 2 hours of workable time	[23:56]
KRS1	HAHA	[23:56]
benkay	downsides of the home office	[23:57]
benkay	what was i doing again?	[23:57]
benkay	"WOMAN MORE COFFEE"	[23:57]

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