Forum logs for 26 Nov 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [06:31] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com | [06:31] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 | [06:31] |
-assbot- | Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. | [06:31] |
asciilifeform | no one who hears it, will forget the equations. | [06:32] |
* | assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu | [06:32] |
ben_vulpes | ah that's fucking brilliant | [06:39] |
* | mircea_popescu goes to read diligently what teh gents are on about | [06:40] |
ben_vulpes | i can't believe that i've never seen that until today | [06:40] |
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mircea_popescu | https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net BingoBoingo cazalla dude this thing's actually catching on! | [06:41] |
assbot | Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast | [06:41] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Today cazalla found so many new incoming links from... actual other news sites | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | myeah. teamwork an' errything :) | [06:43] |
mircea_popescu | you two write more! | [06:43] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: New must happen first. I'm not writing about a fucking image macro like Conde Nasty http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/western-union-doesnt-like-bitcoin-spoof-ad-files-dmca-takedown-claim/ Imma write moar though | [06:44] |
assbot | Western Union doesn’t like Bitcoin spoof ad, files DMCA takedown claim | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsOQn8 ) | [06:44] |
asciilifeform | qntra << lol, it's almost at the level of my own obscure site now. | [06:44] |
cazalla | asciilifeform, always an optimist eh | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo clearly. | [06:45] |
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BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Almost. Loper is a big site though. You are TempleOS without the Dopamine blockers. | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform well, in some perspectives. | [06:46] |
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asciilifeform | except that qntra is not as forsaken, in that i get 100-200/day except for 1-2 days in a month, where it's 10-30k | [06:46] |
BingoBoingo | The truth is though that Bitcoin is still an obscure thing | [06:46] |
asciilifeform | and they're all from some moron reservation | [06:46] |
asciilifeform | e.g. 'reddit' | [06:46] |
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BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Now that I've realized it some months ago I can't forget stumbling into loper well before stumbling into BTC | [06:47] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: how'd you do that | [06:47] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Hypercard Article | [06:47] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [06:47] |
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BingoBoingo | Hypercard was the tool I used to sort the girls I wanted to fuck in High School... Because 80's movies | [06:48] |
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asciilifeform | lol mr. flood is still in business? | [06:53] |
BingoBoingo | Perhaps> | [06:53] |
asciilifeform | quite a few paired 'joined/quit' in today's log. | [06:53] |
BingoBoingo | TaT joined earleir today but I didn't have time to warn about Mr. Flood before join/part storm affected him | [06:53] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: perhaps add to channel message-line ? | [06:54] |
asciilifeform | 'we have mice' | [06:54] |
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BingoBoingo | Not Mice, whatever the plural of Geese is. Big, but thin neck. | [06:55] |
BingoBoingo | Geese is threatening animal that any adult simian should be able to swiftly dispatch with bare hands | [06:56] |
kakobrekla | 'joined/quit' < ping timeouts? | [06:56] |
mircea_popescu | [06:56] | |
mircea_popescu | only been around for 5000 years. | [06:56] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: aha | [06:56] |
mircea_popescu | [06:57] | |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: naturally. that's why i no longer even bother to check at most times. | [06:58] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: There's a utility to this though. There's a reason why men range counter tenor to contra bass and yet castrati are something else | [06:58] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla hey, can assbot pm change to | [06:58] |
asciilifeform | i no longer give a damn if it was 'reddit', 'hacker news', or whatever. | [06:58] |
mircea_popescu | -assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. If you get flooded upon connection, go to #Freenode ask for a cloak come back under a different name. | [06:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71850 @ 0.00039723 = 28.541 BTC [-] {2} | [06:58] |
asciilifeform | 'or come back under' ? | [06:59] |
mircea_popescu | o wow, under 40 huh | [06:59] |
kakobrekla | i very much doubt diff name will halp | [06:59] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla how ? | [06:59] |
kakobrekla | i mean, do anything | [06:59] |
mircea_popescu | cloak | diff name ? | [06:59] |
kakobrekla | diff name | [07:00] |
mircea_popescu | but my msg says both. | [07:00] |
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kakobrekla | you think there is actually 'if cloak then look in logs for host' ? | [07:01] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [07:01] |
kakobrekla | i doubt it. | [07:01] |
mircea_popescu | ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com | [07:02] |
gribble | log.bitcoin-assets.com is down | [07:02] |
kakobrekla | what | [07:02] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno it died while i was trying to read up on today's affairs. | [07:02] |
kakobrekla | its up here | [07:02] |
mircea_popescu | ;;isup log1.bitcoin-assets.com | [07:02] |
gribble | log1.bitcoin-assets.com is up | [07:02] |
mircea_popescu | is that down there ? | [07:02] |
kakobrekla | no | [07:03] |
kakobrekla | up | [07:03] |
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ben_vulpes | up for me too | [07:03] |
kakobrekla | im not seeing anything out of the ordinary | [07:03] |
mircea_popescu | bizarre. | [07:04] |
mircea_popescu | ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com | [07:04] |
gribble | log.bitcoin-assets.com is down | [07:04] |
kakobrekla | ;;isup liar | [07:04] |
gribble | liar is up | [07:04] |
mircea_popescu | thanks god for gribble otherwise you'd be calling me teh liar :D | [07:04] |
kakobrekla | mhm | [07:04] |
mircea_popescu | PFFFF! | [07:04] |
kakobrekla | mebbe you bribed it who knows | [07:05] |
ben_vulpes | ntube's corruptible! | [07:05] |
mircea_popescu | you know it's downforeveryoneelse.com | [07:05] |
ben_vulpes | scandal | [07:05] |
BingoBoingo | ;;isup ferguson.happy | [07:05] |
gribble | ferguson.happy is down | [07:05] |
mircea_popescu | pity it doesn't say "went down" | [07:06] |
kakobrekla | ;;isup btcusd | [07:06] |
gribble | btcusd is up | [07:06] |
kakobrekla | arite | [07:06] |
BingoBoingo | Ferguson.happy spent 20 years going down. How Ferguson.happy is just down. | [07:07] |
* | BingoBoingo is dissapoint feruson burned and not Town and COuntry | [07:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80250 @ 0.000392 = 31.458 BTC [-] {3} | [07:08] |
BingoBoingo | Clayton burning, even though it hosts county government is prolly impossibru this year | [07:11] |
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kakobrekla | i added some words that speak along those said lines | [07:12] |
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BingoBoingo | !up hiddosme | [07:20] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [07:20] |
mircea_popescu | does it work ? | [07:21] |
* | BingoBoingo thinks kako gives his bait names of excessive obvious. What's Wrong with Tom? | [07:24] |
kakobrekla | yes it works | [07:25] |
mircea_popescu | assbot: 2014 Proof of Honor (POH) Awards << bwahahaa o god. | [07:27] |
mircea_popescu | pashtuncoin ? | [07:27] |
kakobrekla | peaked at about 1.2gbps | [07:27] |
asciilifeform | logs alive here. | [07:28] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: You've been nominate nao https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855130.msg9655184#msg9655184 | [07:28] |
assbot | 2014 Proof of Honor (POH) Awards - Official Voting begins December 1st (12/1)! ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkMsQb ) | [07:28] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno what this is ? | [07:28] |
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mircea_popescu | https://i.imgur.com%2Fffg7VCp.png&t=546&c=30RGfn8AjBfL0g << who are all these people. | [07:30] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Some spam asperzing site that wants to be BTC news is hosting "awards" | [07:30] |
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mircea_popescu | "What is Proof of Honor? The turbulence in our cryptosphere has made it difficult at times to spot out the real leaders – the true innovators. We have introduced the Proof of Honor as an award to acknowledge the achievement of those who have brought to this environment something new and exciting." | [07:31] |
asciilifeform | http://blog.nexusguard.com/ssdp-ddos-attacks << intro to the type of idiot vulnerability used by mr. flood. | [07:31] |
mircea_popescu | look at that, fight turbulence with turbulence! | [07:31] |
assbot | SSDP M-Search Attack - Another Amplified Reflexive DDoS Attack Analysis - The Nexusguard Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkMGHb ) | [07:31] |
mircea_popescu | well, esl turbulence anyway. | [07:31] |
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BingoBoingo | Well, ESL user that spams reddit with blog, doesn't get called out for it. Prolly because eSL | [07:34] |
BingoBoingo | https://www.reddit.com/user/TkHamed | [07:35] |
assbot | overview for TkHamed ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkN08E ) | [07:35] |
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mircea_popescu | !up Decima| | [07:36] |
-assbot- | You voiced Decima| for 30 minutes. | [07:36] |
* | assbot gives voice to Decima| | [07:36] |
* | ben_vulpes is still benefiting from decades of others good decisions buried in emacs - this week, proper connection and cloaking behavior in the irc client | [07:37] |
kakobrekla | btw BingoBoingo the thing is automated, and just like there is no searching the log for old ips, there is also no check if nick contains 'ddos' letters | [07:38] |
mircea_popescu | ^ | [07:38] |
ben_vulpes | does anyone have experience compiling bitcoin from source on free or open bsd? | [07:39] |
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BingoBoingo | kakobrekla: Ah, I wasn't sure they'd advanced to automating. Thought they'd still be mating with their hand. | [07:41] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: loper-os.org/pub/flood.txt.gz << in case you missed | [07:41] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: I saw, was overwhelmed. I'm still benefiting from great design decisions made in who knows the fuck what anymore. | [07:42] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: Dignork does | [07:44] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: danielpbarron also does | [07:44] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: There is evidence I've done it on sun OS, but no memory of having done so, so unproductive tree to bark up. | [07:46] |
ben_vulpes | lol sun os that's pretty good | [07:47] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: The useful versions are basically classical era BSD. | [07:47] |
mircea_popescu | babbys_first_bit: i have a shitty laptop that I've devoted to my cold storage, disabled wifi etc <<< check out noob with solid plan. | [07:47] |
BingoBoingo | Before divergence set in | [07:47] |
BingoBoingo | He really was on it until... | [07:48] |
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ben_vulpes | ;;later tell dignork hey wouldja check in with me about your experiences with bitcoin on bsd? | [07:50] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [07:50] |
ben_vulpes | ;;later tell danielpbarron hey wouldja check in with me about your experiences with bitcoin on bsd? | [07:51] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [07:51] |
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BingoBoingo | !up mikaeldice | [07:51] |
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asciilifeform | http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/unix-haters/x-windows/disaster.html << good vintage h4t3f3st | [07:52] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkOgZn ) | [07:52] |
asciilifeform | 'The X-Windows Disaster: How to make a 50-MIPS Workstation Run Like a 4.77MHz IBM PC' | [07:52] |
* | asciilifeform a fan of the 'handbook' | [07:52] |
BingoBoingo | I really dunno who isn't | [07:52] |
* | asciilifeform reluctant to show it to modern folks on account of 'so you must like winblows then, aha' | [07:53] |
ben_vulpes | v -> w -> x | [07:53] |
ben_vulpes | really? | [07:53] |
kakobrekla | ddos cuts after 30min | [07:53] |
BingoBoingo | I spread it around at library school. The Linux people liked it. The system Z and Mac people who though Mac was *nix hated it | [07:53] |
BingoBoingo | The windows folk just weren't people | [07:54] |
mikaeldice | I reinstalled Windows as a dual boot after a couple years of solely Debian so I could play a game.. It felt dirty. | [07:54] |
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BingoBoingo | mikaeldice: I run a windows instance as a game console, no shame as long as you protect the rest of the internet from it | [07:54] |
mircea_popescu | [07:55] | |
kakobrekla | yup | [07:55] |
asciilifeform | cheapo least effort << think this way: there are not many chumpnets that can be sliced into N slices (one for each of us, 24/7) and still be of any use. | [07:55] |
asciilifeform | so gotta take turns. | [07:55] |
ben_vulpes | could one spam the spammorz? flood the channel with reasonable-ish nicks? | [08:01] |
kakobrekla | could as well be unreasonable. | [08:02] |
* | ben_vulpes shrugs | [08:02] |
ben_vulpes | flood the channel with connections? | [08:02] |
kakobrekla | as i displayed earlier | [08:02] |
* | ben_vulpes is only sort of paying attention over here | [08:02] |
ben_vulpes | other irons | [08:02] |
kakobrekla | well, allow me to enlighten you | [08:03] |
kakobrekla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935196 | [08:03] |
assbot | Logged on 26-11-2014 05:17:50; BingoBoingo: !up hiddosme | [08:03] |
kakobrekla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935203 | [08:03] |
assbot | Logged on 26-11-2014 05:25:02; kakobrekla: peaked at about 1.2gbps | [08:03] |
ben_vulpes | well there you have it | [08:04] |
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kakobrekla | but my guess is it works single threaded. | [08:04] |
kakobrekla | someone with a fat pipe, rejoin every 30 min, problem fixed | [08:05] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ident mod6 | [08:06] |
gribble | Nick 'mod6', with hostmask 'mod6!03e884ed7a@rider.us', is identified as user 'mod6', with GPG key id 721705A8B71EADAF, key fingerprint 027A8D7C0FB8A16643720F40721705A8B71EADAF, and bitcoin address None | [08:06] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ident | [08:07] |
gribble | Nick 'ben_vulpes', with hostmask 'ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'ben_vulpes', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None | [08:07] |
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ben_vulpes | hola punkman | [08:09] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [08:10] |
mircea_popescu | ;;seen peterl | [08:10] |
gribble | peterl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: |
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mircea_popescu | ;;seen scoopbot | [08:10] |
gribble | scoopbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 30 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: |
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ben_vulpes | whatsa deal with the notary? | [08:10] |
mircea_popescu | soooo... who wants to make an actual scoopbot ? | [08:10] |
punkman | ben_vulpes: it needs hosting | [08:10] |
mircea_popescu | punkman yeah waht was that hack all about ? | [08:10] |
mircea_popescu | what do you need, to host it ? | [08:10] |
punkman | I got no idea, didn't find anything | [08:10] |
ben_vulpes | what was the story on the hack? | [08:10] |
mircea_popescu | ugh so then how did it happen ? | [08:11] |
ben_vulpes | what was the result of the hack? flood from your IP? | [08:11] |
punkman | again, no idea. Hetzner sent email about kako's digitalocean instance. supposedly some network scan/attack originating from it. | [08:11] |
mircea_popescu | is that the only indication ? | [08:12] |
ben_vulpes | but db intact, btc safe | [08:12] |
ben_vulpes | gpg keyring unmolested | [08:12] |
punkman | yep | [08:12] |
ben_vulpes | were you doing full backups for comparison? | [08:12] |
mircea_popescu | ah so forgetr it then, they're idiots. | [08:12] |
punkman | mircea_popescu: well the b/w logs etc supported the theory | [08:13] |
kakobrekla | it could be someone fucked up the incoming and outgoing traffic again. would not be the first time. not even the second. probably not even the third. in a month. | [08:13] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu lol shooting from the hip | [08:13] |
mircea_popescu | punkman so what do you need to host it ? an aws ? or what ? | [08:13] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes he is literally correct incidentally. we have email where "isp expert" confused the incoming with the outgoing | [08:13] |
BingoBoingo | ;;ticker | [08:14] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 377.0, Best ask: 377.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 377.0, 24 hour volume: 14510.97122213, 24 hour low: 371.0, 24 hour high: 395.11, 24 hour vwap: 0 | [08:14] |
punkman | mircea_popescu: well someone could further inspect the supposedly "hacked" instance, can keep using that | [08:14] |
mircea_popescu | i don't care what you use, but it's not online is the problem. | [08:15] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo: He prolly ate them. << lawl. | [08:16] |
kakobrekla | this thing is a ba subdomain, its 'hot'. not for do. needs a different home. | [08:16] |
mircea_popescu | ah. yeah makes sense. "least effort hosting" specialists. | [08:16] |
kakobrekla | well its ok if you dont plan to offend the idiots. at least too much. | [08:17] |
mircea_popescu | punkman do you have any providers you like ? | [08:17] |
punkman | mircea_popescu: not really | [08:18] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla im kinda against giving any money to "least effort" sorta providers, because it narrows the pie for the legitimate guys. if i want 10 items of which one is rare, i WILL NOT buy the 10 from any of the shops that don't carry the 10th. that way that guy gets some nice business and the idiots get a valuable signal. | [08:18] |
mircea_popescu | punkman what do you need to run it, root on linux ? | [08:19] |
mircea_popescu | if you can live with a cpanel account i can spin you one up rightnao. | [08:19] |
punkman | don't need root, except for binding HTTP server to :80 | [08:20] |
mircea_popescu | lol. okay, what's the domain ? | [08:20] |
mircea_popescu | or did it even have one ? | [08:20] |
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mircea_popescu | !up ShaneDCC | [08:20] |
-assbot- | You voiced ShaneDCC for 30 minutes. | [08:20] |
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punkman | deeds.bitcoin-assets.com ? | [08:20] |
mircea_popescu | punkman aite brb | [08:21] |
* | assbot removes voice from mikaeldice | [08:22] |
mircea_popescu | punkman pm me an email. | [08:22] |
punkman | ben_vulpes: someone actually emailed *me* about the deeds site being down << is the foundation getting fan mail already? | [08:22] |
ben_vulpes | yes actually. | [08:23] |
ben_vulpes | not gpg signed, but w/e. | [08:24] |
kakobrekla | mircea_popescu it just has to do with the fact they are very over provisioned | [08:24] |
kakobrekla | for some things this is ok | [08:24] |
kakobrekla | for serious things its not | [08:24] |
kakobrekla | basta cosi | [08:24] |
mircea_popescu | punkman deed http://pastebin.com/et7WFdLZ | [08:25] |
assbot | -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) hQIMAwyIh9yLf - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1zWNq5c ) | [08:25] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla you mean oversold ? | [08:25] |
mircea_popescu | but yeah, i know what you're sayin'. | [08:25] |
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BingoBoingo | Another PD car down http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/Demonstrations-continue-around-St-Louis-in-protest-of-grand-jury-decision-283921341.html | [08:30] |
assbot | Patrol car set on fire, rocks thrown at City Hall in second night of protests | | [08:30] |
* | BingoBoingo wonder why still civil unrest in Ferguson and not CLayton or Town and Country. | [08:31] |
BingoBoingo | Even Maryland Heights. | [08:31] |
BingoBoingo | No, civil unrest in Ferguson and Dellwood again. | [08:31] |
mircea_popescu | what they're still going ? | [08:32] |
BingoBoingo | Well, they paused for daylight. | [08:33] |
mircea_popescu | Apocalyptic: I was kind of wondering about it recently, it could make sense <<< i said i suspected so, now he's haunting me with it. | [08:34] |
BingoBoingo | Less stuff to burn tonight, but still ongoing | [08:34] |
ben_vulpes | any suggestions on openbsd hosting? | [08:34] |
BingoBoingo | The "city" they were in as understood by a poor american is gone, but... | [08:34] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: physical box, cheap rack | [08:35] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: usg ships afghani opium directly into ru. <<< opium wars 2.0 ? | [08:35] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes generally, get a dedicated/colocated box, run w/e. | [08:35] |
BingoBoingo | Virtualizing OpenBSD is still not very pleasant or economical compared to colo-rack with boxen | [08:35] |
BingoBoingo | OpenBSD is slowly getting better at tolerating VMware and Qemu, but devs still primalirly target Iron | [08:36] |
ben_vulpes | BingoBoingo: you capitalize like a german. | [08:37] |
ben_vulpes | and maybe i can justify some steel and a rack for 2015. | [08:38] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: I grew up in a town that is white, but Kraut rather than Anglo trash | [08:38] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: literally, piles << quite. for a while in the 90s the way to get a cessna or local clone was to go to the pile. | [08:38] |
mircea_popescu | if you could make it work it was yours. | [08:38] |
* | BingoBoingo thought about moving thedrinkingrecord.com to dedicated hardware, but probably leaching Dreamhost forever so DDoS is their problem | [08:38] |
* | BingoBoingo reminds now that I have not flown ON an aeroplane much less flown an aeroplane | [08:39] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [08:40] |
* | BingoBoingo reminds exploring the Darien as a land route to freedom... | [08:41] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it. much like your finger cannot function for long or very usefully unless attached to the rest of you << so very aptly put. | [08:41] |
BingoBoingo | I'll prolly ust wait until I can buy a fucking blue water capable boat though | [08:42] |
ben_vulpes | ;;gettrust mrjr | [08:42] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user mrjr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=mrjr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mrjr | Rated since: never | [08:42] |
ben_vulpes | lol well drivebys are drivebys | [08:42] |
ben_vulpes | http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=310 | [08:44] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets bash ... ( http://bit.ly/1vM4bCb ) | [08:44] |
ben_vulpes | haw | [08:44] |
mircea_popescu | lol dat bash | [08:46] |
ben_vulpes | .butts is an excellent tld and serenissima.butts would be too perfect i say again | [08:47] |
mircea_popescu | why not .ba | [08:48] |
ben_vulpes | so conventional! | [08:48] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, im not spending a million dollars to buy into what's fundamentally a dead tech. | [08:48] |
mircea_popescu | i'd rather buy 1mn dollars' worth of betamax gear. | [08:48] |
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ben_vulpes | ba's just so tightly bound to this particular irc instantiation | [08:49] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: But the best videos are on Betamax | [08:49] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo ikr ? | [08:50] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes i sersiouly see more future for irc than for the web. | [08:50] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: I mean Betamax has more porn with white girls who want to do pron. | [08:50] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno. | [08:51] |
mircea_popescu | porn of the period is ridiculous fail. | [08:51] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: How is it fail. They do porn. You get off. They try not porn at all, you recover, and then they do porn again. | [08:52] |
mircea_popescu | any clits on betamax ? | [08:52] |
BingoBoingo | Sure, under the bush | [08:53] |
mircea_popescu | my point. | [08:53] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno how i could fuck an 80s woman without a three week prep course. | [08:53] |
ben_vulpes | for her or you? | [08:53] |
* | BingoBoingo had a girlfriend in High School who routinely wore shoulder pads | [08:54] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes for her. | [08:54] |
mircea_popescu | they've not yet invented "forgetness education" | [08:54] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.0994545 = 2.6853 BTC [+] {5} | [08:54] |
ben_vulpes | [08:55] | |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: If you want true markov revelations, you really need to give templeOS a spin | [08:56] |
ben_vulpes | [08:56] | |
mircea_popescu | what if no seaweeds ? what if "seaweeed tax" introduced ? etc. | [08:56] |
ben_vulpes | holy shit how am i still 1k under | [08:57] |
mircea_popescu | 1k under what. | [08:57] |
ben_vulpes | log lines | [08:57] |
mircea_popescu | im almost caught up myself. | [08:58] |
ben_vulpes | what sort of scenario leads to no seaweeds? could one not grow them oneself? and who's to tax the tiny barge floating many many miles from nowhere? | [08:58] |
ben_vulpes | well you don't have a job anymore that's unfair and i'm going to call the communists on you | [08:58] |
mircea_popescu | by the way, the dark meadow is probably the best ipad game ever made. it's so good in fact it's definitely giving the platform a reason to exist. | [08:58] |
mircea_popescu | this is the first time | [08:58] |
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* | BingoBoingo knows exactly why he exists, because 11kg bird and pre-Thanksgiving family fracture. I am going to up on 15lbs of weight in under an hour | [09:02] |
* | BingoBoingo offers 15lb figure based on an estimation that anything less than twice the bird's weight in stuffing is jsut impolite. | [09:04] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: (not a misprint! there were once intelligent, educated woman programmers in usa. but when the profession became 'blue collar' - akin to, e.g., cement mixer operator - they mostly disappeared.) << chetty being one of them. | [09:04] |
mircea_popescu | http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2011/06/04/fireandforget/ << why exactly does any of this have anything to do with sexism, discrimination or gender ? | [09:06] |
assbot | Fire and forget, or sexism in software engineering ... ( http://bit.ly/11u19of ) | [09:06] |
mircea_popescu | idiot manager. no further explanation necessary. | [09:06] |
mircea_popescu | undata: which runs counter to the point of hiring her << fwiw my read is exactly opposite. chick was fine, dude was inept. | [09:08] |
mircea_popescu | you seriously can't tell me one walk every coupla weeks is overcommunicating. | [09:08] |
mircea_popescu | fuck, back in the day if guys didn't hear a "walk with me" for a week or two straight they'd start worried they got fired and everyone forgot to tell em. | [09:09] |
ben_vulpes | ^^ | [09:10] |
ben_vulpes | i do this with walks to the coffee shop | [09:10] |
* | BingoBoingo offers that aluminum filings do a lot to stiffen up concrete | [09:11] |
ben_vulpes | also firing decisions get made on day n and executed on n+1, but i understand that this is far more rigorous than my 'peers' could ever imagine pulling off. | [09:11] |
ben_vulpes | because...raised by single mothers i guess. | [09:11] |
fluffypony | fuck labour law | [09:12] |
ben_vulpes | [09:12] | |
ben_vulpes | fluffypony: what does labor law have to do with anything? | [09:12] |
fluffypony | I have to give my domestic worker a written warning today for washing (and screwing up) leather pillows | [09:12] |
fluffypony | because the Basic Conditions of Employment Act won't let me fire her on the spot for that | [09:13] |
ben_vulpes | your fault for hiring her officially i guess. | [09:13] |
fluffypony | you don't have a choice | [09:13] |
ben_vulpes | no, *you* don't have a choice. | [09:13] |
fluffypony | the BCEA says that she's an employee even without a contract | [09:13] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: real question is whether mr o actually drinks the 'kool aid' re: riots being 'popular anger', or merely pretends to. <<< fwiw, i also happen to think they're based on popular anger. | [09:14] |
mircea_popescu | just, not the sort of anger they like to ee there. | [09:14] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes afaik that's standard practice. | [09:14] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony aahahhaha gtfo. | [09:15] |
mircea_popescu | why live in a country you can't fire the help | [09:15] |
* | BingoBoingo actually thnks Micheal Moore circa 2005 was right, anger is mistargeted geographically | [09:15] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: because the help is cheap :-P | [09:15] |
mircea_popescu | how cheap ? | [09:15] |
fluffypony | we pay her $13 a day | [09:15] |
mircea_popescu | ok, that's cheap. | [09:15] |
ben_vulpes | ah come man | [09:15] |
mircea_popescu | course... how much were the leather pillows ? | [09:15] |
ben_vulpes | you've invested more in training. | [09:15] |
fluffypony | yeah and we're paying more than our neighbours | [09:15] |
fluffypony | about $150 each | [09:16] |
mircea_popescu | tbh, i wouldn't fire a 13 a day woman that fucked up something through not having a clue. | [09:16] |
fluffypony | well that's the thing, she didn't know better | [09:16] |
fluffypony | so a written warning should fix that going forward | [09:16] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, srsly. fuck the act, why do you want to fire her. | [09:16] |
ben_vulpes | fluffypony wants to complain about socialism | [09:16] |
fluffypony | I don't - but having to write the warning down and get her to sign it irritates me | [09:17] |
ben_vulpes | "mu labur" | [09:17] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes if he does it backfired lol | [09:17] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony why lol | [09:17] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: laziness :-P | [09:17] |
mircea_popescu | eh get out, be the master you wish to see in the world. | [09:17] |
fluffypony | I am the master of my own laziness | [09:17] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [09:17] |
undata | fluffypony: take the massive discount you're getting on her standard of living and get another pillow | [09:17] |
ben_vulpes | dude if you have multi hundo pillows you gotta instruct the staff w/r/t caretaking | [09:17] |
undata | then say "if you aren't sure whether something can be washed, ask me" | [09:17] |
undata | solved? | [09:18] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes he's new at this entire being rich thing. | [09:18] |
fluffypony | heh heh | [09:18] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [09:18] |
ben_vulpes | lol 13 dollar a day help is rich nao? | [09:18] |
ben_vulpes | in south africa? | [09:18] |
mircea_popescu | hey, you pay going rate, what. | [09:18] |
* | fluffypony is rolling in the deep | [09:18] |
mircea_popescu | so anyone invited rachel by the bay over here yet ? | [09:19] |
ben_vulpes | undata: get it all derployed? | [09:19] |
mircea_popescu | decimation: how does usg so utterly dominate the masses? <<< you can't be serious ? | [09:20] |
ben_vulpes | [09:20] | |
undata | ben_vulpes: yep, nothing broke. fiddling with http-kit atm | [09:20] |
ben_vulpes | DITCH IT DRINK BUBBLES | [09:20] |
mircea_popescu | "the masses" exist thermodynamically because the government is giving them free stuff. | [09:20] |
mircea_popescu | what "rebel" | [09:20] |
ben_vulpes | nah fuggit's too late. | [09:20] |
fluffypony | is 9am too early for beer? | [09:20] |
ben_vulpes | plus there's not enough of this bottle left to properly share. | [09:20] |
ben_vulpes | fluffypony: HELL NO | [09:21] |
BingoBoingo | fluffypony: Never too early for beer. If you want to put a serious offer in on a butler though... | [09:21] |
ben_vulpes | i mean if you're willing to drink that gut ruining obesity inducing shit | [09:21] |
punkman | wine's better in the early hours | [09:21] |
BingoBoingo | ^ | [09:21] |
BingoBoingo | Vodka forever | [09:21] |
ben_vulpes | wine is just better. | [09:21] |
ben_vulpes | always. | [09:21] |
undata | I prefer wine, cider, or liquor | [09:22] |
BingoBoingo | ANd by vodka I mean grain alcohol + Distilled water | [09:22] |
fluffypony | I only have red wine, and that's more an evening thing | [09:22] |
ben_vulpes | undata: american cider is just fortified fruit juice. | [09:22] |
BingoBoingo | BEst to mix one's own vodka | [09:22] |
ben_vulpes | scrumpy tho | [09:22] |
undata | ben_vulpes: this reverend nats is 6.9%, not too bad | [09:22] |
ben_vulpes | residual sugars: rotyourteeth% | [09:23] |
ben_vulpes | [09:24] | |
* | fluffypony demands it | [09:26] |
fluffypony | demand all of the things | [09:26] |
ben_vulpes | [09:26] | |
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mircea_popescu | !up supay | [09:28] |
-assbot- | You voiced supay for 30 minutes. | [09:28] |
* | assbot gives voice to supay | [09:28] |
* | assbot gives voice to RagnarDanneskjol | [09:28] |
ben_vulpes | oh a wild recruiter | [09:28] |
ben_vulpes | and supay | [09:28] |
mircea_popescu | who's supay ? | [09:28] |
ben_vulpes | fuck if i know | [09:28] |
supay | lol | [09:29] |
supay | thanks mircea_popescu :) | [09:29] |
ben_vulpes | lol http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2014#654187 | [09:29] |
assbot | Logged on 01-05-2014 22:07:24; supay: gee thanks benkay! | [09:29] |
ben_vulpes | ;;rated supay | [09:29] |
gribble | You have not yet rated user supay | [09:29] |
supay | i was wondering what is the speculation of the price per bitcoin by the end of the year | [09:29] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google bitcoin-assets rules and regulations | [09:30] |
ben_vulpes | gribble your state messages are totally stale | [09:30] |
gribble | IRS Notice 2014-21 - Internal Revenue Service: |
[09:30] |
mircea_popescu | orly. | [09:30] |
ben_vulpes | is bitcoin legal? | [09:30] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ | [09:30] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFrr8a ) | [09:30] |
* | ben_vulpes blinks, rubs eyes. | [09:30] |
supay | nobody? | [09:31] |
supay | i dont think it can reach the $10,000 mark, not just yet | [09:31] |
mircea_popescu | supay read that, come back when you get the idea. | [09:31] |
mircea_popescu | !down supay | [09:31] |
* | assbot removes voice from supay | [09:31] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina' << not supposedly. actual fact. | [09:33] |
mircea_popescu | which is what i mean by "anger" earlier. yea, anger. just, not the sort people talking of it would like to presume. | [09:33] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes: derpy? i mean culty. <<< dude you may be the only head of a foundation that says such things. | [09:36] |
mircea_popescu | "oh you know, our derpy united nations thing" | [09:36] |
mircea_popescu | and how wildly appropriate'd it be! | [09:36] |
ben_vulpes | i eagerly wake every morning looking for reality to disprove my assumptions and contestations. | [09:37] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform re conductive cloth : easy cheap and pleasant anti-taser pill. watch the operator /whould police tough man get 3rd degree bunrs ? win. | [09:37] |
ben_vulpes | too many days without a rude correction and i start to worry i'm deep in delusion. | [09:37] |
ben_vulpes | by the by, what's your beef with sara sharp? | [09:38] |
mircea_popescu | shiiit, i caught up on the logs! WOW. | [09:38] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes who ? | [09:38] |
ben_vulpes | !s sarah sharp | [09:39] |
assbot | 1 results for 'sarah sharp' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sarah+sharp | [09:39] |
ben_vulpes | there are even trilema references | [09:39] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes derpy anon chick with no contributions or redeeming qualities, woke up talking one day about torvalds. the old libtard story about how "words are bad mkay" | [09:41] |
mircea_popescu | no beef per se. | [09:41] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/#footnote_2_49047 << pretty much the whole story./ | [09:41] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFrXTt ) | [09:41] |
* | ben_vulpes fumbles for cock joke, is tired and chewing through logs, gives up | [09:41] |
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mircea_popescu | !up maustrapper | [09:42] |
-assbot- | You voiced maustrapper for 30 minutes. | [09:42] |
* | assbot gives voice to maustrapper | [09:42] |
mircea_popescu | ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com | [09:42] |
gribble | log.bitcoin-assets.com is down | [09:42] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [09:42] |
kakobrekla | what, it aint related | [09:42] |
ben_vulpes | nonsense. | [09:43] |
mircea_popescu | huh ? | [09:43] |
ben_vulpes | up for me | [09:43] |
kakobrekla | yea | [09:43] |
mircea_popescu | so apparently there's two lobes of the internets. | [09:44] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu gets speshul attacks. | [09:44] |
mircea_popescu | http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2013/02/22/mac/ << this is actually an excellent piece. | [09:50] |
assbot | I mortgaged my future with a Mac ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFsoNA ) | [09:51] |
mircea_popescu | With all of my music on there, suddenly I no longer needed to fight with whatever screwball music player was on my Linux box at the office. I just moved my headphones over to my laptop and kept them there. iTunes took over my music playing needs. | [09:51] |
mircea_popescu | That's pretty much how it went. Soon, I found myself sitting on the couch at home chatting with people from the laptop instead of sitting at my desk where the "real" computer (Linux box) was. It slowly wormed its way into my life, and before long, I was using it to browse my usual haunts | [09:51] |
mircea_popescu | that's EXACTLY what the plan is. | [09:51] |
ben_vulpes | blech | [09:51] |
ben_vulpes | if you have the opportunity to purchase "portuga" a wine from "lisboa" - don't | [09:51] |
ben_vulpes | "wine" | [09:51] |
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mircea_popescu | !up hiddosme | [09:53] |
-assbot- | You voiced hiddosme for 30 minutes. | [09:53] |
* | assbot gives voice to hiddosme | [09:53] |
ben_vulpes | All I ever did with it was run Firefox and ssh around to actually do work on "real" machines << this is where my workflow's going | [09:54] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes which is why all the nsa effort put into hijacking this particular workflow, five years ago. | [09:57] |
kakobrekla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935270 < no cigar, bugger jumps ships on new joins. | [10:00] |
assbot | Logged on 26-11-2014 06:03:07; kakobrekla: someone with a fat pipe, rejoin every 30 min, problem fixed | [10:00] |
mircea_popescu | so do a protective rejoin. | [10:01] |
mircea_popescu | "As you can see, I mortgaged my future. Instead of staying with my wonky-but-free ways of doing things, I shifted all of my stuff over to the Mac. It gladly embraced all of it and jealously took it in, never to give it back. Now when I want to get back out, I have to do all of the work I thought I had managed to avoid by using a Mac in the first place." << WORD. | [10:01] |
mircea_popescu | "all the work usg agents are saving you ? it's work you still have to do. they're just persuasively and pervasively lying about it, while it collects interest undone." | [10:02] |
kakobrekla | right now im going to do body {position: horizontal;} | [10:02] |
kakobrekla | that not even valid | [10:03] |
kakobrekla | whatever. | [10:03] |
mircea_popescu | lol. nn. | [10:03] |
ben_vulpes | fuck a css | [10:03] |
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ben_vulpes | managing a family of bolts in Musk's Rocket just didn't charm me. | [10:04] |
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ben_vulpes | dub: are you at least using amphetamines? | [10:06] |
mircea_popescu | http://nithgrim.wordpress.com/2014/10/21/the-web-of-dependency/ < "This is the kind of thing Ivan Illich wrote about all the time, and it’s still happening today, to you. With the convenience of frozen dinners and restaurant meals, one quickly loses the knack for preparing food." | [10:08] |
assbot | The web of dependency | nydwracu niþgrim, nihtbealwa mæst ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFtkl8 ) | [10:08] |
ben_vulpes | [10:08] | |
mircea_popescu | this is fucking nonsense of the prime order. how come im unaffected ? | [10:08] |
mircea_popescu | "with the convenien ce of jacking off, one quickly loses the ability to pick up" ? something like that ? | [10:08] |
mircea_popescu | hint : it depends on the one. of course primitive fucktards in the amzon will keel over for any westerner. so they should, they're not human, they're junk. | [10:09] |
ben_vulpes | ;;later tell xanthyos until you share those photos you're a goddamn scammer | [10:09] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [10:09] |
mircea_popescu | that same process does not carry when actual humans are involved. | [10:09] |
ben_vulpes | oh and just who is fred then? | [10:09] |
mircea_popescu | the romans "conquered" the greeks and then a century later the toga was replaced by greek habits. herpity derp. | [10:09] |
ben_vulpes | surely just a fictional character. | [10:10] |
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mircea_popescu | "Another example: the replacement of folk culture (decentralized/distributed, varying and variable, illegible to bureaucracies, difficult to control) with mass culture (centralized, impossible to edit, bureaucratic, easy to control) — less effortful and allowing for much higher production values and potentially much more talent, but in practice, buying in tends to mean letting your enemies put thoughts into your head | [10:11] |
mircea_popescu | ." << this is like the power of the press. it's "impossible to edit" for as long as you're not editing it. | [10:11] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile if you do edit it you end up with trilema. which IS impossible to control, nearly illegible to bureaucrats yet immensely powerful. | [10:12] |
mircea_popescu | good approach to keeping a blog these days : edit mass culture. | [10:12] |
mircea_popescu | proceed from a folk paradigm, you're a trubadour of the 1300s. edit that bitch. retell it. | [10:12] |
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ben_vulpes | http://nodeps.shithouse.tv/ | [10:33] |
assbot | nodeps ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFuzRi ) | [10:33] |
ben_vulpes | ahahaha i think i'm logged up | [10:34] |
ben_vulpes | SUCKERS | [10:34] |
ben_vulpes | seriously how do you fuckers keep up with these heavy days | [10:34] |
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ben_vulpes | dat feel when you start seeing your own lines in the log from today | [10:34] |
ben_vulpes | [10:35] | |
ben_vulpes | ;;later tell decimation please for to explain to retards like me "asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue" | [10:36] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [10:36] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes> dat feel when you start seeing your own lines in the log from today << srsly. | [10:38] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: re "fundation", good artists steal etc http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2013#120176 | [10:41] |
assbot | Logged on 03-07-2013 19:32:03; mircea_popescu: the jig is up! | [10:41] |
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ben_vulpes | [10:43] | |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes what am i not getting here | [10:43] |
ben_vulpes | gotta say, set me up well for the drudgery of programming. | [10:43] |
ben_vulpes | can't quite agree that programmering is any worse than laboring on/in the production lines though. | [10:44] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: ah shit that was the am link | [10:45] |
mircea_popescu | lol turns out asciilifeform is more responsible for the cult than i. | [10:46] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/let-me-show-you-why-i-like-bitcoin/ | [10:47] |
assbot | Let me show you why I like Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFvdy9 ) | [10:47] |
ben_vulpes | mthreat: log search does not extend to 2012 | [10:47] |
ben_vulpes | things that need doing: | [10:47] |
ben_vulpes | - scoopbot | [10:47] |
ben_vulpes | - deedbot | [10:47] |
ben_vulpes | - searchthinger | [10:48] |
ben_vulpes | deedbot is written | [10:48] |
ben_vulpes | scoopbot is written | [10:48] |
mircea_popescu | from what i recall mthreat had an open call for logs, got something, and that's what's up there. | [10:48] |
ben_vulpes | searchthinger is a matter of dumping logs into postgres and indexing for fulltext search. | [10:48] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: well where are yours then? | [10:48] |
mircea_popescu | where are my what ? | [10:48] |
ben_vulpes | your logs backing that trilema post | [10:49] |
mircea_popescu | my logs didn't get included in there because i only log when im on obviously, and that's kinda hole-y. | [10:49] |
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mircea_popescu | oh oh i see what you mean lol | [10:50] |
mircea_popescu | itreallyhappened(tm) | [10:50] |
ben_vulpes | suuuuuuuure. | [10:50] |
ben_vulpes | ™ | [10:51] |
ben_vulpes | http://tm.shithouse.tv/ << for future reference | [10:51] |
assbot | ™ ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFvr8H ) | [10:51] |
ben_vulpes | k well with that adieu fair sirs | [10:52] |
mircea_popescu | enjoy. | [10:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52150 @ 0.00040872 = 21.3147 BTC [+] {3} | [11:45] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00040383 = 22.7356 BTC [-] | [12:27] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1665 @ 0.001245 = 2.0729 BTC [-] {2} | [12:28] |
mircea_popescu | "a new kind of proof: Proof of Faucet" | [12:30] |
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cazalla | !up mediaDCC | [12:36] |
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adlai | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Moka_Animation.gif | [12:44] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cf0V5b ) | [12:44] |
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adlai | good morning freenode | [12:45] |
adlai | yknow lispland isn't all harmonious satori: http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/elisp_common_lisp_in_emacs.html | [12:47] |
assbot | Controversy of Common Lisp Package in Emacs Lisp ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cf1QCP ) | [12:47] |
adlai | discuss: who is further afield, xahlee or losethos? | [12:49] |
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* | adlai stares for a few minutes at altcoin charts, trying to figure out how people can still be so stupid | [13:10] |
adlai | http://www.truthcoin.info/blog/altcoins-are-not-coins/ <- somebody (obviously not me, ain't nobody got time for this) should back this up with some of them colorful utxo age "info"graphics | [13:14] |
assbot | Altcoins Aren't Money, They're Bitcoin's Casino | Truthcoin: Trustless P2P Prediction Marketplace ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cf975C ) | [13:14] |
adlai | it'd be nice to compare those graphs between the dead (samecoin?) and dying (gonero?) | [13:14] |
fluffypony | lol gonero, haven't heard that one before | [13:26] |
punkman | 70% down since I sold all my xmr, good call | [13:28] |
punkman | fluffypony: anything going on in the secret monero research labs? | [13:29] |
fluffypony | punkman: we had a mini conference when I was in the USA | [13:29] |
fluffypony | lots of interesting stuff on the boil | [13:29] |
fluffypony | I wrote about the three main things we bounced around a couple of Missives ago | [13:29] |
adlai | gonero, noun: early 21st century: via late Latin from Greek gonorrhoia, from γονος ‘semen’ + ροια ‘flux.’ | [13:31] |
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punkman | http://www.truthcoin.info/images/sidechains.png < lol did he just photoshop electrum img | [13:33] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1CfevWp ) | [13:33] |
punkman | err, blockstream | [13:33] |
punkman | "altcoins are a lie, here's my altcoin" | [13:34] |
adlai | sidechains aren't an altcoin, they're just a way to burn bitcoin faster | [13:43] |
adlai | on-sidechain bitcoin can't be accepted in place of on-homechain bitcoin without a significant amount of sufficiently advanced technology... although I guess at some point people will start building it | [13:45] |
adlai | truthcoin is a terrible name for his project, it sounds like a coin for 9/11 truthers | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | !up Ginux_ | [14:09] |
-assbot- | You voiced Ginux_ for 30 minutes. | [14:09] |
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mircea_popescu | !up saifedean | [14:09] |
-assbot- | You voiced saifedean for 30 minutes. | [14:09] |
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mircea_popescu | is gonero based on proof of fucks ? | [14:09] |
saifedean | good day everyone | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | hey there. | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | i made myself lamb wellington in your honor. | [14:11] |
saifedean | well done! how did it come out? | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | splendid. | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | (local lout came up with "o, this is basically liver calzone, except the dough's crumblier". the ignorance i have to put up with!( | [14:12] |
saifedean | serves you right for ruining a perfectly good bit of lamb with sacrilegious dough! | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | the dough is integral. it makes the meat softbake in steam. | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | it's like, steambaked tenderlon. | [14:13] |
saifedean | yes, but with good grilling techniques, you don't need the dough... you're in argentina, get someone to build you a proper chulengo | [14:14] |
saifedean | then you can grill on low heat coals and close the lid | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | what, an airtight chulengo ? | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | pressure matters. | [14:15] |
saifedean | we need to have a proper grilling discussion over fire... possible in the next 2 months if i manage to swing by BA | [14:16] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: qntra << lol, it's almost at the level of my own obscure site now. << actually, alexa thinks it's bigger. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/qntra.net http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/loper-os.org for what (very little) that's worth. | [14:16] |
assbot | qntra.net Site Overview ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cfrg34 ) | [14:16] |
assbot | loper-os.org Site Overview ... ( http://bit.ly/1CfriYR ) | [14:16] |
mircea_popescu | baking != grilling | [14:16] |
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mircea_popescu | !up Mantrid | [14:16] |
-assbot- | You voiced Mantrid for 30 minutes. | [14:16] |
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saifedean | baking is grilling for women :D | [14:16] |
mircea_popescu | indeed. | [14:16] |
saifedean | so you folks were discussing Isis and I tried to chime in but it wasn't working... | [14:17] |
saifedean | internet troubles | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | not "internet troubles". | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | some derp was in here ddosing noobs. | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | told you to get a cloak like 5x. this'd be the sort of reason why. | [14:18] |
saifedean | i tried getting a cloak, but it doesnt work from webchat. I downloaded two irc clients, but neither of them really works for whatever reason | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | lol the blessings of technology | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, it should work from webchat just as well, provided you've registered the name. | [14:19] |
saifedean | I did register the name but the folks at freenode kept telling me a cloak wont work from webchat... | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | ah well then they proll know best ? | [14:20] |
saifedean | my theory of isis is that they're better understood not as islamic fundamentalists, but as a byproduct of a socialist regime and diversity | [14:20] |
saifedean | anywhere socialism goes, it spreads destruction and death... but when it goes to places with significant population diversity, it must also start civil wars | [14:21] |
mircea_popescu | hm | [14:21] |
saifedean | for all the scaremongering about the evils of isis, they are still a tiny little sliver of what the glorious socialist regime of syria has achieved | [14:21] |
mircea_popescu | to me it just looks like normal nationbuilding. same shit that happened in yugoslavia. same shit really that happened in every nation, except the westerners were quicker with it. | [14:21] |
saifedean | wherein socialism was nation-destruction... | [14:22] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno. the larger parts of isis are not actually nationally represented in the extant european-sponsored map of the region. | [14:23] |
saifedean | well, empires and city-states were a much better workable model for everyone, westerners and occidentals, | [14:23] |
mircea_popescu | no kurdish state, for instance. | [14:23] |
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saifedean | then the british decided to rule the world and found that spreading socialism and democracy is the ideal way to do so... first, give foreigners glorious revolution, then rule over the rubble | [14:24] |
saifedean | if you folks haven't, you must check out the work of Antony Sutton, particularly about the Bolshevik Revolution | [14:24] |
mircea_popescu | i think the pernicious influence of british "ideas" is well understood here lol. | [14:25] |
saifedean | this is the 'Bruce Willis was dead all along" a-ha moment of twentieth century history. The Bolsheviks simply worked for the British and American banks, to bring down the Romanovs and destroy Russia | [14:25] |
saifedean | full book available here: http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf | [14:26] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGw0or ) | [14:26] |
saifedean | And here's an interview with the author: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_cJXOjYl8 | [14:26] |
saifedean | the twentieth century was the century of spreading this model worldwide, burning all other human civilizations with the fatal acid of socialism, destroying their culture, society, religion and traditions, and then bringing in modern liberal democracy and its fiat central banks and IMF membership | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | teh cult of teh useful idiot. | [14:28] |
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adlai | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935678 << since when does "more popular [among http clients]" imply "[above] the level of"? | [14:30] |
assbot | Logged on 26-11-2014 12:13:23; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: qntra << lol, it's almost at the level of my own obscure site now. << actually, alexa thinks it's bigger. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/qntra.net http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/loper-os.org for what (very little) that's worth. | [14:30] |
saifedean | absolutely, this is the century of the useful idiots, and there are no idiots more useful than the socialist scum that has destroyed the world | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | adlai i wasn't being serious eh. | [14:31] |
saifedean | how else could china turn into the west's dirty workshop, but through first burning its society with socialism | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | saifedean the world doesn't seem to have been putting up that much of a fight, mind. | [14:31] |
saifedean | well, the tragedy is that the people who think they are putting up the fight are in fact the first line of attack of the enemies they imagine | [14:32] |
adlai | mircea_popescu: well then, time to get serious, and demand of your personal media megaphone that it host denser content than mere snarky commentary :) | [14:32] |
saifedean | fucking Hugo Chavez was selling his bonds to Goldman Sachs and Trotsky was getting paid by NY's bankers to launch revolution | [14:33] |
mircea_popescu | but i like snarky commentary! | [14:33] |
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nubbins` | so buy a mad magazine | [14:34] |
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mircea_popescu | Speaking of Yazidi women captured by ISIS, Nazand Begikhani said, "These women have been treated like cattle... They have been subjected to physical and sexual violence, including systematic rape and sex slavery. They've been exposed in markets in Mosul and in Raqqa, Syria, carrying price tags." | [14:35] |
mircea_popescu | heh. i imagine the porn based on this will last forever. | [14:35] |
adlai | speaking of personal media megaphones, something quite interesting is happening in israel | [14:36] |
mircea_popescu | i wonder how much 19yo prime (1.80, 80/60/80 or better) goes for in raqqa. | [14:36] |
* | adlai is trying to find a commentary on this issue written in english, rather than google translate of hebrew articles | [14:36] |
nubbins` | 1.80 | [14:37] |
nubbins` | height in cm : weight in kg | [14:37] |
nubbins` | XD | [14:37] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [14:37] |
mircea_popescu | 1 meter 80 cm. | [14:38] |
nubbins` | but that'd put her at 100kg | [14:38] |
nubbins` | :D | [14:38] |
mircea_popescu | ... ? | [14:38] |
adlai | tl;dr: tycoon has a freely distributed "news"paper that gets handed out by the formerly homeless at bus and train stations... and now there's a bill passing through parliament to outlaw subscription-free distribution of newspapers | [14:39] |
nubbins` | at a 1.8:1 ratio | [14:39] |
adlai | it's a little subtler than that, but that's the general gist | [14:39] |
nubbins` | i kid. anyway | [14:39] |
nubbins` | i actually don't know my own height in meters | [14:39] |
nubbins` | nor my weight in kg | [14:39] |
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mircea_popescu | adlai so what's the problem here ? | [14:40] |
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nubbins` | such is the curse of the canadian, living under a system of conflicting measurement systems | [14:40] |
nubbins` | !up saifedean | [14:40] |
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nubbins` | !up Ginux_ | [14:40] |
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adlai | here we go! | [14:40] |
nubbins` | !up bagels7 | [14:40] |
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bagels7 | uh thanks | [14:40] |
adlai | http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.626053 | [14:40] |
assbot | Everything you need to know about the Israel Hayom (or anti-Sheldon Adelson) law - National Israel News | Haaretz ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGzwz4 ) | [14:41] |
nubbins` | hey, no sweat | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` 1.80 is the 71 inches minimum height of a sexy woman. | [14:41] |
nubbins` | ah, 5'11" | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [14:41] |
bagels7 | wow that must eleminate a lot | [14:41] |
nubbins` | it does | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | 31 inches and a half hips and tits ; 23 inches and a half waistline. | [14:41] |
nubbins` | 'cept for dem amazons | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | bagels7 kinda the point. | [14:41] |
adlai | mircea_popescu: freedom of "speech"... does this include the right to spend incredible wealth subsidizing propaganda rags that are killing the an already-dying business? (dead tree newspapers) | [14:41] |
nubbins` | where's that crumb illustration again? | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | adlai in romania it was outlawed because littering. | [14:42] |
nubbins` | http://pigsarms.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/r-crumbs-ideal-woman.jpg | [14:42] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGzMOI ) | [14:42] |
adlai | adelson has been running this newspaper for over half a decade at a net loss, but he's rich enough to keep doing it indefinitely | [14:42] |
nubbins` | adlai dat paid article | [14:42] |
adlai | hmm it's not paywalled for me | [14:42] |
saifedean | anything that kills newspapers is good | [14:43] |
nubbins` | pastebin it | [14:43] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` that's like the epitome of brutish lmao | [14:43] |
nubbins` | :D right?! | [14:43] |
nubbins` | the ideal woman should be able to demolish a brick wall of approx. 2 meter height, with bare hands | [14:43] |
mircea_popescu | course teh standards i espoused above are exactly opposite to this, so dunno what you're on about. | [14:44] |
saifedean | i don't find height to be important for women, she's not a ladder... what matters most is the hip-to-waist ration, followed by the size of the breasts and lips... the rest is details | [14:45] |
nubbins` | "she's not a ladder" lelelelelelel | [14:45] |
adlai | http://pastebin.com/JMvysU0G | [14:46] |
assbot | Israel Hayom Law - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGAY4E ) | [14:46] |
adlai | no u gay | [14:47] |
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mircea_popescu | saifedean if she's 1.80 or above she can wear heels so she can look you in the eye. | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu | this matters. | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu | (she can also fuck standing, but i repeat myself) | [14:48] |
mircea_popescu | and for that matter, what IS woman if not a ladder ?! | [14:49] |
adlai | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935763 < I like that one, because it can be extended to all crap papers... any litterpaper is the responsibility of the entity that published the litter | [14:49] |
assbot | Logged on 26-11-2014 12:39:24; mircea_popescu: adlai in romania it was outlawed because littering. | [14:49] |
saifedean | i'd much rather a voluptuous shorty than a tall surfboard | [14:50] |
mircea_popescu | false dilemma. | [14:50] |
mircea_popescu | tall voluptuous was the standard. | [14:50] |
saifedean | what is the point of life if not for trade-offs! | [14:50] |
adlai | problem is, this law doesn't kill newspapers, it just adds a few legal hurdles which likely make it harder for "legitimate" actors but are easily avoided by the propaganda machine | [14:51] |
saifedean | which would you prioritize: height of voluptuousness? | [14:51] |
mircea_popescu | i don't prioritize. my tradeoff is like this : i trade off your tradeoff for no tradeoff. | [14:51] |
adlai | and the root problem is that literate monkeys just sponge up whatever they read | [14:52] |
mircea_popescu | what do you prioritize in cars, that the brakes don't work or that the engine doesn';t work ? | [14:52] |
nubbins` | broken engine is better | [14:53] |
mircea_popescu | adlai i find the pretense of the israeli middle class so amusing. AS IF they being exceptional, they'll manage to keep teh gawker.il at bay. | [14:53] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` why ? good driver doesn't use the brakes. | [14:53] |
nubbins` | :o | [14:53] |
adlai | ... what pretense, of what middle class? | [14:54] |
* | adlai is not aware of either such thing existing | [14:54] |
bagels7 | I would rather not value myself by voluptuousness or temporal looks | [14:54] |
mircea_popescu | adlai the people that purport to make a law to prevent a rich guy from buying the government one bum at a time. | [14:54] |
mircea_popescu | bagels7 unless you meet the standard you may not discuss the standard. | [14:54] |
adlai | at least, not among the vast majority of my irl contacts. people seem pretty aware and accepting of / resigned to the system | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu | adlai so then what's that law suppost to do ? | [14:55] |
bagels7 | I am 183 cm but I don't have a vagina :p | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu | didja get 600 cc boob implants ? | [14:56] |
fluffypony | I thought everyone had one nowadays | [14:56] |
fluffypony | it's all the rage | [14:56] |
adlai | it's supposed to stop the continued indoctrination of the sponge-minded masses, because regulation always works perfectly the first time and never starts an arms race of circumvention | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony yeah but at one's fingertips | [14:57] |
fluffypony | ah | [14:57] |
fluffypony | :-P | [14:57] |
mircea_popescu | adlai hence "so amusing" | [14:57] |
adlai | such things are always more amusing when perceived from a safe distance... | [14:58] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of boobs, http://www.realself.com/forum/calling-500cc-600cc-girls | [14:59] |
assbot | calling all 500cc to 600cc girls... - Breast Implants forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGE2O9 ) | [14:59] |
mircea_popescu | "decided to go in the middle and get 550cc high profile" | [14:59] |
saifedean | alright guys, it was fun but i have to go to lift and eat and do things with my life... do check out the Antony Sutton book I mentioned, you will not be disappointed! | [14:59] |
mircea_popescu | THAT is the middle nao. imagine, a century ago that middle was maybe... two per million ? | [14:59] |
adlai | who the fuck measures implants by volume | [15:00] |
bagels7 | [07:53] <+mircea_popescu> didja get 600 cc boob implants ? << No, it;s not in the plans | [15:00] |
mircea_popescu | adlai everyone ? | [15:00] |
mircea_popescu | how do you measure tits, by color ? | [15:01] |
nubbins` | HEH | [15:01] |
adlai | dunno, but that seems like it'd miss info | [15:01] |
nubbins` | "why would the doctors measure the volume of the liquids they're injecting?" | [15:02] |
mircea_popescu | well, they're basically "classic" and "high profile". you can prolly fill in. | [15:02] |
adlai | doctors ł everyone | [15:02] |
mircea_popescu | industrial process is industrial process, they're all the same shape. | [15:02] |
adlai | *≠ | [15:02] |
nubbins` | dat elective surgery | [15:02] |
nubbins` | adlai how else would they describe the implants? | [15:03] |
adlai | "what electives are you taking this semester?" "surgery" | [15:03] |
nubbins` | heheh | [15:03] |
nubbins` | dicksurgery.ca is up for renewal | [15:03] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.simplybreastimplants.com/images/breast_augmentation_photos/breast_aug_revision42.jpg | [15:03] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1uW2m3w ) | [15:03] |
mircea_popescu | left is 300 right is 600 | [15:03] |
adlai | if we're discussing the process itself, sure, talk about the delta. but if you're discussing the result, it seems more germane to discuss the result | [15:04] |
mircea_popescu | adlai you don't understand. there's some standard items involved. | [15:05] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.simplybreastimplants.com/breast_augmentation_photos/set42redo.html << earlier link. | [15:05] |
nubbins` | dat barbed wire tattoo | [15:05] |
assbot | 600cc High Profile Silicone Breast Implant Photos | Breast Augmentation Redo Photos ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGFuQu ) | [15:05] |
nubbins` | dat obv line of work | [15:05] |
adlai | is it symbolic of the invisible fences keeping the customers close and the talent closer? | [15:06] |
nubbins` | dat heh | [15:06] |
nubbins` | i think it's symbolic of poor decision making skills | [15:06] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [15:06] |
nubbins` | http://www.simplybreastimplants.com/images/breast_augmentation_photos/Revis_revba42.jpg | [15:07] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGFHDr ) | [15:07] |
nubbins` | BEAUTIFUL | [15:07] |
* | nubbins` weeps | [15:07] |
adlai | the worst poor decisions are those made on your behalf before you're born | [15:07] |
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adlai | equally, the best good decisions... are the ones made on your behalf before you're born :) | [15:07] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` it's recent. they usually heal markless these days. | [15:08] |
nubbins` | the best good decisions are not the ones where you slice your tits open from the nipple downwards, stuff them full of window caulking, and sew em back up? | [15:08] |
nubbins` | ah | [15:08] |
nubbins` | well til | [15:08] |
mircea_popescu | big fucking deal, so woman gets to carry some scars. | [15:09] |
nubbins` | also, til fumed silica is produced by burning silicone | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | imagine she got them in a war with her own ugliness, then they're just as respectable as w/e scars you might get fighting for isis. | [15:10] |
bagels7 | adlai: what do you know about pre birth? | [15:10] |
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nubbins` | (fumed silica is a thixotropic agent used in printing inks, as well as toothpastes etc) | [15:10] |
adlai | bagels7: still trying to figure out what my face looked like | [15:10] |
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adlai | !up bagels7 | [15:10] |
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adlai | ;;gettrust bagels7 | [15:11] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Adlai to user bagels7: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Adlai&dest=bagels7 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bagels7 | Rated since: Tue Nov 11 00:46:41 2014 | [15:11] |
adlai | interesting wot ratings there | [15:11] |
nubbins` | heh | [15:12] |
nubbins` | dpb bringing all the normals in | [15:12] |
nubbins` | bagels7 are you also going to snap your dick in half like xanthyos did? | [15:13] |
bagels7 | :he thinks I'm normal: lol, oh that was sarcasm, No I am not going to break my dick | [15:13] |
nubbins` | i don't think the other guy explicitly set out to do this either | [15:13] |
adlai | ;;google frankenpenis | [15:14] |
gribble | Frankenpenis (Video 1996) - IMDb: |
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assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [15:14] |
nubbins` | heh | [15:14] |
nubbins` | looks like assbot only selectively ignores gribs | [15:14] |
adlai | let's see | [15:15] |
adlai | !b 5 | [15:15] |
assbot | Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2P7WYHE.txt ) | [15:15] |
adlai | !b 3 | [15:15] |
assbot | Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3WEZBMC.txt ) | [15:15] |
nubbins` | i may replace the tubes in my exposure unit today | [15:16] |
nubbins` | finally tracked down a set of unfiltered blacklights | [15:16] |
bagels7 | Sooo many guys tell me to not get fake boobs. I don't have to feel bad! | [15:17] |
nubbins` | nobody *has* to feel bad. don't let that stop you. | [15:18] |
bagels7 | well I am pretty cute for someone that went physical through male puberty, too bad It shows I did drugs | [15:23] |
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nubbins` | c'est la vie | [15:31] |
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bagels7 | I believe in mara the demon that temps people with beautiful women due to real life experiences. The demon that leads people away from spiritual matters by distracting them with sex | [15:33] |
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nubbins` | i believe i'm going to lay down some speedball acrylic white on these book covers | [15:36] |
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nubbins` | dread pirate barron | [16:01] |
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mircea_popescu | bagels7 sex is a spiritual matter! | [16:01] |
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bagels7 | Yeah, my job bothers me sometimes when people ask me for affection instead of something tyical | [16:02] |
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danielpbarron | ;;later tell ben_vulpes I'm running bitcoind 0.7.2 on OpenBSD 5.5 as per BingoBoingo's instructions http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/02/building-bitcoin-0-7-2-on-openbsd/ -- it took several weeks to get my data up-to-date, and it frequently crashes | [16:09] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [16:09] |
assbot | Building Bitcoin 0.7.2 on OpenBSD | Bingo Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1yX0E13 ) | [16:09] |
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bagels7 | "nice people" here: http://pastebin.com/w5g52cTa | [17:11] |
assbot | mandycandy - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1vNzUD8 ) | [17:11] |
bagels7 | nice people like those black people kept telling who ended up robbing me | [17:11] |
TomServo | ;;later tell ben_vulpes I just recently started down a path similar to danielpbarron's, though I'm on 5.6. Only to block 216000 something so far, and also - frequently crashes. | [17:11] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | ayup | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | funny how the "for your own protection" verbiage appeals to a particular sort of derp. | [17:21] |
bagels7 | when I go downtown I basically risk being stabbed or once i got robbed by this woman and 15 black guys, 97.6% of the times i was robbed was by black people. can I be racist now | [17:24] |
bagels7 | half the time was from "friends", is that what i get for being a whitey | [17:25] |
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Azelphur | bagels7: I've always said there's a difference between racism and statistics, people have so much trouble differentiating | [17:35] |
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Azelphur | Racism: All black people are thieves, Not racism: 97.6% of the times I was robbed was by black people (Assuming it's an accurate statistic, which it isn't) | [17:36] |
bagels7 | hundred dollars here and there, one time my whole rent... yeah it's more like 2/18 | [17:37] |
nubbins` | two eighteenths of the time? | [17:38] |
bagels7 | i got my phone stolen twice by crackheads | [17:39] |
Azelphur | bagels7: heard of Cerberus? :P | [17:39] |
Azelphur | It'd be so funny if a crackhead stole my phone in UK | [17:40] |
bagels7 | no i have not | [17:40] |
mircea_popescu | for the 97.6% statistic you need 125 attempts and 122 successes | [17:40] |
mircea_popescu | somehow i doubt you got robbed 122 times. | [17:40] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: now now, maybe he lives in detroit. | [17:40] |
Azelphur | bagels7: if you have an android device and root it, it'll embed itself inside the firmware and let you track the phone | [17:40] |
mircea_popescu | even so. most people live their entire lives without fucking 100 times. let alone being mugged for crying out loud. | [17:41] |
bagels7 | well if I count all the times i got ripped off buying drugs... | [17:41] |
Azelphur | so if a thief does the normal thing of replacing the SIM card and factory resetting, then turns it back on again...you can still track it :) | [17:41] |
mircea_popescu | Azelphur so you know when to run ? "dude that stole my phone is around the corner gtg bye" ? | [17:41] |
Azelphur | haha | [17:42] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: I'm British remember, our police don't suck. | [17:42] |
bagels7 | azelphur: thanks for the rooting advice if I ever get an android | [17:43] |
Azelphur | yw | [17:43] |
punkman | Azelphur: and what if it shows up in Poland | [17:43] |
Azelphur | punkman: then you proceed to mess with it to annoy the person that stole your phone. | [17:44] |
bagels7 | but I doubt I will be falling asleep on some guys mattress while he brings a girl over and she robs me the 5 minutes he is gone. I had my phone beside me waiting for a call | [17:44] |
danielpbarron | you mean to annoy the patsy that bought your phone from the guy who stole it | [17:44] |
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bagels7 | a lot of the hoodrats downtown are assoiated so they probably know each other on some personal level | [17:45] |
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assbot | Two FBI agents shot, wounded in St. Louis County while searching for fugitive : News ... ( http://bit.ly/11uQNEL ) | [18:23] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/tear-gas-used-after-protesters-burn-police-car-break-windows/article_4e930309-b1b5-581d-85ed-04cd0a8f7921.html | [18:23] |
assbot | Tear gas used after protesters burn police car, break windows at Ferguson city hall; 45 arrested : News ... ( http://bit.ly/11uQQQX ) | [18:23] |
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TomServo | kakobrekla: I think so. std::bad_alloc == memory leak? | [18:44] |
TomServo | Also, many thanks for assbot's URL shortener. | [18:44] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2313 @ 0.001243 = 2.8751 BTC [-] | [18:49] |
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mats_cd03 | ;;ticker | [18:57] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 373.79, Best ask: 374.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.83000, Last trade: 373.79, 24 hour volume: 11560.64745239, 24 hour low: 367.4, 24 hour high: 381.85, 24 hour vwap: 374.5673137 | [18:57] |
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ben_vulpes | danielpbarron, TomServo: thanks | [19:04] |
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kakobrekla | !up ghtyujh | [19:08] |
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kakobrekla | hi | [19:08] |
ben_vulpes | mornin | [19:09] |
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nubbins` | FINALLY finished these covers | [19:23] |
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BingoBoingo | !up ratpoison | [19:29] |
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BingoBoingo | Hello ratpoison, is your nick in honor of the excellet window manager of the same name? | [19:29] |
nubbins` | http://imgur.com/F3ogQr1 | [19:29] |
assbot | imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1ObMA ) | [19:30] |
nubbins` | the metallic inks are difficult to photograph in a way that does them justice, but this is as good an approximation as i can get with a phone camera | [19:30] |
nubbins` | 10 layers of ink | [19:30] |
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BingoBoingo | http://qntra.net/2014/11/mtgox-trustee-moves-to-repay-creditors-work-with-kraken/ | [19:37] |
assbot | MtGox Trustee Moves to Repay Creditors, Work With Kraken | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1PF9x ) | [19:37] |
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BingoBoingo | !up 18VABNRS9 | [19:39] |
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nubbins` | http://imgur.com/QQXnGsR | [19:39] |
assbot | imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1QfUN ) | [19:39] |
BingoBoingo | Hello 18VABNRS9 is that a radio call sign? | [19:39] |
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nubbins` | call signs here follow the format V01xx | [19:40] |
nubbins` | not too many hams | [19:40] |
BingoBoingo | You never know for sure. | [19:41] |
nubbins` | not too many licensed ones, anyway | [19:43] |
nubbins` | less than 100 if the vanity plates are any indication | [19:43] |
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BingoBoingo | Vanity plates are probably a poor indicator | [19:47] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.zdnet.com/senator-tom-coburn-agrees-that-bitcoin-is-not-legal-currency-7000036169/ | [19:56] |
assbot | Senator Tom Coburn agrees that Bitcoin is not legal currency | ZDNet ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1TTxU ) | [19:56] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2150 @ 0.00124103 = 2.6682 BTC [-] {3} | [20:05] |
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BingoBoingo | lol ben_vulpes isn't in xanthyos dick pic WoT | [20:13] |
xanthyos | oh +2 apparently has it too | [20:13] |
xanthyos | it's a reasonable goal to which he can aspire | [20:14] |
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BingoBoingo | ;;gettrust ben_vulpes danielpbarron | [20:15] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask danielpbarron!~dpb@71.232.150.212. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user danielpbarron: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=danielpbarron | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=danielpbarron | Rated since: Thu Mar 21 17:26:04 2013 | [20:15] |
BingoBoingo | Well ben_vulpes trusts danielpbarron, maybe he does so in a way that allows him to believe danielpbarron's testimony that the pictures exist. | [20:16] |
xanthyos | i showed the G rated pics of me in a hospital bed | [20:16] |
xanthyos | isn't that enough? | [20:17] |
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BingoBoingo | Maybe ben_vulpes is just into the gore of it? | [20:17] |
davout | xanthyos: so, how's your cock doing | [20:17] |
xanthyos | i stopped taking the pain meds so i could end a week-long constipation | [20:18] |
xanthyos | just took one now after 2 days in agony | [20:18] |
xanthyos | the pain means the nerves aren't damaged | [20:19] |
xanthyos | it'd be more worrying if i felt numbness | [20:19] |
davout | that makes sense | [20:21] |
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BingoBoingo | And people think pain is a bad thing. | [20:23] |
xanthyos | it does impede my functionality | [20:24] |
davout | pain is painful | [20:25] |
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jurov | !up hiddosme | [20:32] |
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BingoBoingo | http://qntra.net/2014/11/ken-hess-bitcoin-illegal-tom-coburn-maybe-for-congress/ | [20:45] |
assbot | Ken Hess: Bitcoin Illegal, Tom Coburn: Maybe for Congress? | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zYnSVz ) | [20:45] |
BingoBoingo | https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/537678524166201344 | [20:48] |
assbot | ZDNet's /kenhess /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash Illegal! Tom Coburn: Maybe for Congress? http://t.co/cJJlL6UgQX | [20:48] |
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BingoBoingo | lol Bitcoin Magazine https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2nhafk/bitcoin_magazine_going_to_shut_down/ | [20:54] |
assbot | Bitcoin Magazine going to shut down? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1zYp4s2 ) | [20:54] |
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ben_vulpes | xanthyos: aww i'm just trolling | [21:39] |
ben_vulpes | you'll note the absence of an actual negrating :p | [21:39] |
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xanthyos | ben_vulpes: do i get a positive rating for a post-op pic with stitches around the glans | [21:43] |
xanthyos | or a pre-op pic of a bent deformed shaft | [21:43] |
xanthyos | or btc? i'll sign a contract | [21:44] |
mats_cd03 | yes you can have a +1 | [21:44] |
xanthyos | if you really want to see you can give me an incentive | [21:44] |
xanthyos | i'll do a webcam show with the bandaid and gauze off for .1 | [21:44] |
mats_cd03 | show me the dong | [21:46] |
xanthyos | make an offer | [21:46] |
mats_cd03 | i already did | [21:46] |
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xanthyos | ratings are reversible, i'll take btc though | [21:46] |
mats_cd03 | nope | [21:46] |
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danielpbarron | ;;sell 1 "image of broken penis" at 0.1 BTC | [21:47] |
gribble | Order id 21699 created. | [21:47] |
xanthyos | .1 is for a live webcam show | [21:47] |
xanthyos | a jpg link is much less | [21:47] |
ben_vulpes | xanthyos: i'll rate you +1 for a year for that picture | [21:48] |
xanthyos | regardless of any emotional outburst that might make you want to retract your rating? | [21:48] |
xanthyos | i don't know if i should accept those terms as a picture will not increase the amount of trust you should have for me | [21:49] |
danielpbarron | make sure to use the deedbot for this contract | [21:49] |
ben_vulpes | actually upon consideration this is an abuse of the rating system. | [21:49] |
xanthyos | rate me up because you know i'm a genuine guy who wears his heart on his sleeve | [21:50] |
xanthyos | but if you want the pic it's better to settle in btc | [21:50] |
ben_vulpes | ;;rate xanthyos 1 genuine guy who wears his heart on his sleeve | [21:50] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user xanthyos has been recorded. | [21:50] |
xanthyos | heh | [21:50] |
xanthyos | climbing the social ladder | [21:51] |
xanthyos | thanks | [21:51] |
ben_vulpes | ;;gettrust xanthyos assbot | [21:51] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user xanthyos to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xanthyos&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014 | [21:51] |
ben_vulpes | eh what does it cost me | [21:51] |
xanthyos | why does it say i'm not authenticated? | [21:51] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ident xanthyos | [21:52] |
gribble | Nick 'xanthyos', with hostmask 'xanthyos!xanthyos@silenceisdefeat.com', is identified as user 'xanthyos', with GPG key id DF074A8E1242692B, key fingerprint AF3F0A9DD77A3B76411A95DBDF074A8E1242692B, and bitcoin address None | [21:52] |
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ben_vulpes | ;;ident assbot | [21:52] |
gribble | Nick 'assbot', with hostmask 'assbot!~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot', is not identified. | [21:52] |
xanthyos | oh | [21:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31975 @ 0.00039584 = 12.657 BTC [-] {2} | [21:54] |
jurov | ben_vulpes: best make him write hex string on the dick and give him 0.1btc for the trouble :) | [21:54] |
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xanthyos | i'm seeing the urologist in a week. wonder what he'd comment if i had hex sharpied on it | [21:55] |
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jurov | you're considered psychically insane anyway, why not have a little fun? | [21:55] |
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ben_vulpes | 7714ad25 | [21:56] |
ben_vulpes | i've reconsidered, and am not buying buttcoins | [21:56] |
xanthyos | if i write 7714ad25 along the side of my penis and take a picture that shows the numbers and the stitches you'l send me .1? | [21:56] |
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asciilifeform | it's the andi-flood noobs pill << before long, we'll be hooking up elizas to mask decoys from the enemy. and then folks will start... talking to them | [21:59] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform that that'll be lulzy. | [22:01] |
BingoBoingo | http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/11/tuesday-afternoon.html | [22:01] |
assbot | Doctor Grumpy in the House: Tuesday afternoon ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHdoXp ) | [22:01] |
punkman | BingoBoingo: who the fuck is this ken hess character | [22:02] |
BingoBoingo | punkman: Columnist for ZDNet, normally writes on Virtualization and windows Sysadmin | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate Ken Hess -1 too stupid to understand what his questions mean. | [22:03] |
gribble | Error: 'Hess' is not a valid integer. | [22:03] |
punkman | did bitcoin kill his cat or something | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | no, but it bothered his employer. | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | and all through 2015 we will be seeing a shitton of 50-somethings with so-so credentrials going all weirdo on bitcoin. | [22:04] |
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mircea_popescu | the perfect age to be stupid re what things are, whatthey mean and what to trust. locklin's their model. | [22:04] |
xanthyos | shrodinger's cat was killed by double-spent btc | [22:05] |
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TomServo | From Hess' bio on zdnet: His first computer was a Commodore VIC-20, which he purchased because William Shatner was in the commercials. | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | who's william shatner ? | [22:07] |
TomServo | heh, first enterprise captain? | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | ugh. | [22:07] |
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mircea_popescu | well i guess if you're 15 in the 70s it's a reasonable reason to be buying z80s | [22:08] |
xanthyos | commodore vic 20 came out in 1980, so it was between the motion picture and the wrath of khan. shatner was a big deal. | [22:08] |
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xanthyos | <+TomServo> heh, first enterprise captain? << first enterprise captain was jonathan archer | [22:08] |
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TomServo | Sorry, I should've said James T Kirk. | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Hess << a better ken hess ? | [22:10] |
assbot | Kenneth Hess - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1rlMmbE ) | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | aww seems so. dude the curse of #b-a. "say something stupid in some trade rag, they'll find a... better you ?" | [22:11] |
punkman | sold 2 million copies of family tree software before 1995, love it | [22:12] |
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mircea_popescu | anyway, i'm a great fan of coburn, because | [22:12] |
BingoBoingo | Seriously. ZDNet Ken Hess is unworthy of Wikipedia Ken HEss | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google site:trilema.com tom coburn | [22:12] |
gribble | No matches found. | [22:12] |
asciilifeform | 'We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster.' - 'the six million dollar man' | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | eh get fucked google! | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2010/politica-adevarata/ | [22:12] |
assbot | Politica adevarata pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHgKK2 ) | [22:13] |
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mircea_popescu | !up heath | [22:14] |
-assbot- | You voiced heath for 30 minutes. | [22:14] |
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mircea_popescu | "Barbie apparently fails as a computer engineer as Mattel removes 'Barbie: I can be a Computer Engineer' book from all sales outlets." | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | clearly, it's because sexism in the industry o.O | [22:15] |
ben_vulpes | i always suspected: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_dimensionality | [22:16] |
assbot | Curse of dimensionality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHhT4u ) | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | i don't get it ? sparsity due to high volumetric exponent ? wtf ? | [22:17] |
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ben_vulpes | space typically grows faster than data? | [22:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1029 @ 0.00099992 = 1.0289 BTC [+] {6} | [22:19] |
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ben_vulpes | bayesian rocket guys were always going on about needing MOAR DATA | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | i dun get what you mean. | [22:20] |
kakobrekla | !up heath | [22:20] |
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mircea_popescu | and yes, one of the many different reasons bayesianism is little more than "a cult of ai without moon or minsky aka stupid" | [22:20] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform incidentally, i think i may have made a breakthrough here. your idea of a "program that fits in head" and my displeasure at the backwards way linux has been going have a common spot. | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | "when in doubt, dike it out". this is the golden rule of all computer programming. logically, interfering with it is then evil. | [22:24] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: dike it out ? | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | you know, cut it out | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | like with a wire clipper. | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | so, if an absolute guarantee can be offered that any portion can be cut off, this probably satisfies both of us. | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | the problem is that in any current shitstack, if you cut ANYTHING out it "stops working". | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | ie, altogether. | [22:26] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: http://electronicdesign.com/boards/whats-all-muntzing-stuff-anyhow | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | stuff that does that will never fit in any head, much like bridge pillars don't fit in any cunt. | [22:26] |
assbot | What's All This Muntzing Stuff, Anyhow? | Boards content from Electronic Design ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHkAD6 ) | [22:26] |
asciilifeform | it has a name! | [22:26] |
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mircea_popescu | ha! | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | the benefits of ignorance, i get to feel nine years old again :D | [22:27] |
asciilifeform | i learned of the man from locklin, incidentally | [22:27] |
asciilifeform | went most of my life 'muntzing' without knowing it had any name. | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | anyway. yes. muntzing is the correct debugging approach. | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | any software/stack/platform/anything interfering with this is evil, for that reason. | [22:28] |
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mircea_popescu | hm. | [22:29] |
asciilifeform | though i must say, a correctly-designed system (minimal) is likewise unmuntzable. | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | nah, this doesn't actually work. i recall this guy, the salesman dude. this isn't what's happening here. | [22:29] |
asciilifeform | in that removal of anything whatsoever - kills. | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | he's an early exponent of the "80% of service with 20% of cost and try for 50% of price" thing, | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | which i decried as the evil that it is earlier. | [22:30] |
asciilifeform | but one could argue that it should be readily apparent why kills. | [22:30] |
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asciilifeform | i'm no great fan of what he did. but the basic act (if not the result) deserves remembering. | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, i won't call this muntzing, but i will say that if i cut off include stdio.h from a program i expect it to a) compile and b) function ; without stdoutput. | [22:30] |
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mircea_popescu | The story around the industry was that he would wander around to an engineer's workbench and ask, "How's your new circuit coming?" | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | After a short discussion, Earl would say, "But, you seem to be over-engineering this - I don't think you need this capacitor." He would reach out with his handy nippers (insulated) that he always carried in his shirt-pocket, and snip out the capacitor in question. | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | Well, doggone, the picture was still there! Then he would study the schematic some more, and SNIP... SNIP... SNIP. Muntz had made a good guess of how to simplify and cheapen the circuit. Then, usually, he would make one SNIP too many, and the picture or the sound would stop working. He would concede to the designer, "Well, I guess you have to put that last part back in," | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | ok, ok, maybe it's what it should be called. | [22:33] |
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ben_vulpes | ./muntz.sh bitcoin | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | ./muntz.sh the entire motherfucking world | [22:34] |
ben_vulpes | but what is our "picture"? | [22:34] |
asciilifeform | 'Every program has at least one bug and can be shortened by at least one instruction — from which, by induction, it is evident that every program can be reduced to one instruction that does not work.' | [22:34] |
mircea_popescu | this thing goes extremely deep, because honestly, what i don't like about i dunno, take your pick ? thins. | [22:34] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform the part where it concludes "but it shouldn't" is under dispute here. | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | if it can, it should. | [22:35] |
asciilifeform | variant on the ancient 'things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler' | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | i guess i'm going to take a moment to pangloss all over myself, because imagine this! we live in the best world possible : just as the muntzing of the world is necessary, the collapse of the political is unavoidable. | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | praise be | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | hey, who's our cult worshipping ? | [22:36] |
asciilifeform | !s our god | [22:36] |
assbot | 13 results for 'our god' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=our+god | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | praise obama! | [22:36] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2014#922406 | [22:37] |
assbot | Logged on 14-11-2014 22:31:04; mircea_popescu: can this be like, our god ? | [22:37] |
asciilifeform | >>> http://worth1000.s3.amazonaws.com/submissions/183500/183879_8c00_625x1000.jpg | [22:37] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHnHe7 ) | [22:37] |
ben_vulpes | eris! | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | hey, we could have a mentally inept sorta-black community organiser with a bunch of fake achievements and awards as a god can't we ? | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | i say we worship hussein barrack obama. | [22:37] |
ben_vulpes | hail obama | [22:37] |
ben_vulpes | heil obama | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | b-a worship is best worship. | [22:37] |
asciilifeform | Барак Хусейнович | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | awww missed the huyportunity ?! | [22:38] |
asciilifeform | candidate for 'order of red star' | [22:38] |
mircea_popescu | Барак Хуйсейнович | [22:39] |
asciilifeform | l0l | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | see ? much better. | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | in romanian, "barack fiu pulii" | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | "barack fiu' pulii"* | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | (which is a very common deprecatory, calling someone "the son of cock" is like saying he'll be inheriting the kingdom of heaven) | [22:40] |
ben_vulpes | i have officially been on hold with the irs for an hour to get a number necessary to open their payment backend | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | give yourself a deduction for the phone charge ? | [22:41] |
ben_vulpes | i'm amused at the every 2 minute "all of our representatives are on the line with other customers" spiel | [22:41] |
ben_vulpes | CUSTOMERS?! | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | hahaha | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | well... you do bring custom... | [22:41] |
ben_vulpes | implying i'm actually buying anything | [22:42] |
ben_vulpes | implying i have a choice in provider | [22:42] |
ben_vulpes | implying i could *not* buy the thing in question, whatever it is | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | that's not what custom implies. | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | it just implies you're bringing in teh dough. | [22:42] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ud milchow | [22:42] |
gribble | Google found nothing. | [22:42] |
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ben_vulpes | !b 2 | [22:43] |
assbot | Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0E0J4EA.txt ) | [22:43] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ud google | [22:43] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Google | Google. The holy mother of all search engines. Is the most efficient, and reliable search engines. Can generate a few million results within a fraction of a second. | [22:43] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ud bitcoin | [22:43] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitcoin | bitcoin. A crypto-currency allowing for anonymous transactions and using a decentralized architecture. Go Nanotube! Nanotube was able to purchase many ... | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | wow srsly ? nanotube ? | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | lol cusipzzz | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | ;;seen cusipzzz | [22:44] |
gribble | I have not seen cusipzzz. | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | orly ? so long long ago! | [22:45] |
mircea_popescu | Apr 05 22:50:39 {Cusipzzz} i, for one, welcome our stable bitcoin overlords << from the logs ben_vulpes never saw | [22:45] |
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ben_vulpes | log search doesn't go past some 5000 responses | [22:46] |
ben_vulpes | i don't think i was persistently logging when i first showed up either | [22:47] |
Apocalyptic | mircea_popescu, cusipzzz is still in -otc | [22:48] |
mircea_popescu | cool! | [22:48] |
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mod6 | :] | [22:52] |
cazalla | http://qntra.net/2014/11/bitcoin-com-au-update/ | [22:57] |
assbot | Bitcoin.com.au Update | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHsFYl ) | [22:57] |
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ben_vulpes | http://asshat.shithouse.tv/ | [23:30] |
assbot | asshat ... ( http://bit.ly/1tjX11E ) | [23:30] |
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thestringpuller | !t m s.mpoe | [23:41] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00038988 / 0.00040207 / 0.0004188 (599574 shares, 241.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00038988 / 0.00043724 / 0.00050762 (8080579 shares, 3,533.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00036402 / 0.00056334 / 0.00086038 (23806032 shares, 13,411.01 BTC) | [23:41] |
thestringpuller | !l m s.mpoe | [23:41] |
assbot | Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00039584 BTC [-] | [23:41] |
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mod6 | $vwap s.mpoe | [23:53] |
empyex | mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00040208 high: 0.0004188 low: 0.00038988 volume: 599574 btc: 241.07533232 7 day: average: 0.00043725 high: 0.00050762 low: 0.00038988 volume: 8080579 btc: 3533.21532115 30 day: average: 0.00056296 high: 0.00086038 low: 0.00036402 volume: 23759737 btc: 13375.76738948 | [23:53] |
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mod6 | this one must be behind a bit. | [23:54] |
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mod6 | it's behind on 30d by: 46`295 on vol & 36 btc | [23:56] |
mod6 | or thereabouts | [23:56] |
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mod6 | maybe it just calcs that once every 24 hours or something. | [23:59] |
mod6 | *shrug* | [23:59] |
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