Forum logs for 22 Oct 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5A35236F137FD211F772259BD5287EDE9AA09CD8A275F881C74BD97AB8BD0545 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 99319465194670868101345891624117322377222977433808483462332438176091472945093 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.3.189 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.3.189 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.3.189@mkj.lt> [00:07]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D21502DDC614160506D49019E3A101B1D769C3A49597CAB4B67CBBC0EF4E7592 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 99319465194670868101345891624117322377222977433808483462332438176091472945093 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.1.5 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.1.5 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.1.5@mkj.lt> ' [00:07]
mircea_popescu: just when you think it's done... [01:08]
BingoBoingo: What done? [01:11]
mircea_popescu: phuctor [01:11]
BingoBoingo: Never, too many ints and not enough hertz. [01:11]
mircea_popescu: lol [01:26]
znort987: ola [06:08]
znort987: a quick question if I may [06:08]
znort987: Rethinking the hw setup for bbet and having come across unpleasant security rumors about intel chips [06:09]
znort987: I am wondering what kind of iron you guys typically use [06:10]
znort987: I searched the logs, and it seems a topic often discussed, but the answers are sort of sprinkled through [06:11]
znort987: A fresh set of opinions on the topic would be welcome [06:13]
mircea_popescu: !~later tell znort987 questionbombing dun work irl. [09:45]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded. [09:45]
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-22-oct-2016#2184724 << it isn't even 1/3 done with Framedragger's material as of yet. [09:56]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-22 05:08 mircea_popescu: just when you think it's done... [09:56]
mircea_popescu: cool deal. [09:57]
mircea_popescu: and in other "people were having fun in buenos aires" news, http://www.diario26.com/enamoraba-a-mujeres-y-las-volvia-dealers-230891.html [09:59]
shinohai: Looks like I'm doing this Latin American entrepreneurship thing all wrong. [10:02]
mircea_popescu: guy was certainly doing it right. [10:02]
* shinohai tips sombrero [10:03]
mircea_popescu: not so sure about the execution (really, selling cocaine to these poor fucks ? really, have children ?!) but the principle is entirely correct. [10:03]
shinohai: MAybe his hope was that having children would increase succession lineage. [10:06]
mircea_popescu: what the fuck's that supposed to do. [10:07]
BingoBoingo: Well if he has 800 children mebbe one doesn't suck? [11:03]
mircea_popescu: no but see, guy has the right idea already : let the 800 dorks have kids, pick up the select ones once they're 16 [11:13]
mircea_popescu: then he goes right back to it. [11:13]
BingoBoingo: Eh meat is a messy business. [11:29]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [12:41]
ben_vulpes: fuckin dns [12:58]
ben_vulpes: great scam [12:58]
ben_vulpes: wacky .tlds are "eighty eight cents (plus fee) (for the first year and then hundreds per year after that)" [12:58]
ben_vulpes: artificial scarcity horseshit [12:58]
mircea_popescu: oya [13:06]
mircea_popescu: it was unavoidalbe, derps paid 1mn to govt and now want to get it back from society. because that's what "business" is, finding novel ways to move money from the rays to the star center. [13:07]
mircea_popescu: note however that the whole "domain is valuable" bullshit this entire scam is predicated on doesn't carry any water. i expired mpex domains, polimedia.us etc. cost =0. [13:07]
mircea_popescu: just get the domain for 88 cents, put a redirect to new domain month 11. let the "investor" derps acquire the very valuable domain name!11 [13:08]
ben_vulpes: teh broken linx though [13:08]
mircea_popescu: so then get a .com or w/e. [13:09]
ben_vulpes: mhm [13:11]
mircea_popescu: "yessica" [13:11]
mircea_popescu: dude... [13:11]
ben_vulpes: http://nombresanimados.net/gifs-nombres-animados/gifs-animados-nombre-yessica-firma-animada-0154.gif [13:15]
ben_vulpes: neon signs, redone as gif [13:15]
mircea_popescu: spanish has the most fucking retarded female names. yessica and belen and dolores and ffs. [13:16]
asciilifeform: misericordia! [13:18]
mod6: Happy Birthday to the Bitcoin Foundation. 2 years old today! [13:21]
asciilifeform: congrats mod6 et al [13:21]
mod6: Salud! [13:27]
* shinohai raises glass [~]D [13:28]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: domain 'investment' was so closely a premonition of modern shitcoinery scams, that it is almost of a same relationship to them as nipkow's mechanical televisor to modern tv. [13:32]
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-21#1557866 << wouldn't strictly need to be coupled to the paster though right? [13:39]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 18:34 mircea_popescu: incidentally ben_vulpes would you be amenable to print email received by foo@cascadianhacker.com on wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/foo@cascadianhacker.com for 24 hours ? [13:39]
mircea_popescu: aha [13:49]
mircea_popescu: o hey happy bday mod6 & ben_vulpes [13:49]
ben_vulpes: huzzah [13:50]
mod6: Thanks, Sir! [14:06]
mod6: ben_vulpes: Your makefile.vpatch seal has been verified and added to the Foundation's mirror. [14:20]
mod6: Thanks! [14:21]
ben_vulpes: mhm! [14:22]
asciilifeform: soooo here's a tale 'from the crypt.' it recently fell to asciilifeform to turn on a winblowz box and install a python there, to run a lab instrument. and guess what, the Official installer RUNS WINBLOWS UPDATE, KBxxxxxsomethingorother! [14:46]
asciilifeform: AAAAND of course hangs for eternity [14:46]
asciilifeform: because i have microshit firewalled. [14:46]
asciilifeform: this is imho worth putting on record, because the perhaps one and single edge ye olde winblows world had over open sores was 'self-contained, static-exe' etc. [14:47]
asciilifeform: but now the wonderful 'dependency hell' has been IMPORTED there. [14:47]
asciilifeform: so microshit folk can 'enjoy' the 'best of two worlds'... [14:47]
mircea_popescu: microsoft wanted to phone home the moment it could, back in 95 or such [15:08]
mircea_popescu: so really, what to you is hell, to vermin is paradise. [15:08]
mod6: !~bcstats [15:11]
jhvh1: mod6: Current Blocks: {"blockcount":435465} | Current Difficulty: 2.5361824664148953E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 437471 | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 25 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [15:11]
mod6: down 1.8% 'eh? [15:13]
mod6: been going up pretty steady tho recently. [15:14]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the tale is not interesting because microshit phones home, this is known even to schoolchildren, it is interesting because 'open sores' now INSISTS on MICROSHIT update enabled [15:15]
asciilifeform: when running on microshit [15:15]
asciilifeform: interesting detail, the described scenario relates strictly to 'python3', 'python2' -- installs normally. [15:15]
mircea_popescu: my point is that they always wanted this. [15:15]
mircea_popescu: to you, it's broken. to them, it's better. [15:16]
asciilifeform: their supposed 'enemies' -- are on board. [15:16]
asciilifeform: i must wonder, was it van rossum himself ? or his bobbeck ? [15:16]
mircea_popescu: there exists this sort of (conventionally denoted "female" mind) for whom everything-depends-on-everything-else-nothing-can-happen-because-of-it is simply put nirvana [15:16]
asciilifeform: btw main effect, apparently, is to keep the thing from working on unregistered winblowsen, as seen in https://archive.is/BrcIy . [15:19]
asciilifeform: why the python devs volunteered to become license enforcers for microshit, is a question for them, not for me. [15:19]
mircea_popescu: prolly just wanted to [15:31]
asciilifeform: microshit ain't a religion, the quislings expect a reward 'on earth, not in heaven', and i'd like to know what it is [15:37]
adlai: !~bible matthew 1-48 [16:32]
jhvh1: adlai: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax. [16:32]
adlai: !~bible matthew 5:1-48 [16:32]
jhvh1: adlai: [KJV] Matthew 5:1 :: And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: [16:32]
jhvh1: adlai: [KJV] Matthew 5:2 :: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, [16:32]
jhvh1: adlai: [KJV] Matthew 5:3 :: Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. [16:32]
jhvh1: adlai: [KJV] Matthew 5:4 :: Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. [16:32]
jhvh1: adlai: [KJV] Matthew 5:5 :: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. [16:32]
jhvh1: adlai: ERROR: I have more than 5 matching passages from your query (43 left). Please be more specific. [16:32]
adlai: ok ok. [16:32]
adlai: http://trilema.com/2016/trilema-bot-spec/#selection-41.75-41.130 << still a tad ambiguous, arguably a less leaky spec would give a ratio of command:response lengthsn [16:34]
* adlai notices that mod6 'scooped' him, gets back to 'work' [16:36]
adlai: asciilifeform: what exactly does KBxxxxx mean in http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-22#1558238 ? (please elucidate, for those who are fortunate enough to only inhabit physical mordor, but limit their computing expeditions to... ah... mirkwood) [16:59]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-22 18:46 asciilifeform: soooo here's a tale 'from the crypt.' it recently fell to asciilifeform to turn on a winblowz box and install a python there, to run a lab instrument. and guess what, the Official installer RUNS WINBLOWS UPDATE, KBxxxxxsomethingorother! [16:59]
adlai: i guess my question can be upgraded to "which KB number?", if you can answer that without revealing too much about the windows setup [17:00]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the quislings got 40 virgins they wouldn't know what to do with them [17:47]
mircea_popescu: i very much dispute this theory whereby thye expect a reward on earth. in my view the one thing they fear is reward on earth. which is who they are and why they are that. [17:47]
adlai: 40? all you need do for nearly double that is blow your own dick off while aiming for an apostate [17:52]
mircea_popescu: adlai a) you don't get to call a spec leaky. if it's not clear what's going on to you, it's probably because you are dumb, not because the going on is broken. [17:55]
mircea_popescu: in this particular case, http://trilema.com/2011/arta-pedepsirii/#selection-87.147-91.69 applies. keep your bot where i don't have to whack it, and if you need to ask what that is i'll whack both of you. [17:55]
adlai: can you please translate the original? i prefer not to rely on machine translation. [17:56]
mircea_popescu: mebbe one day. though the gist is in english anyway. [17:58]
asciilifeform: adlai: mircea_popescu translated eons ago, and apparently forgot, http://trilema.com/2014/the-logical-impossibility-and-the-moral-untenability-of-forgiveness/ [18:02]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-22#1558276 << it was iirc in the reddit link [18:03]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-22 21:00 adlai: i guess my question can be upgraded to "which KB number?", if you can answer that without revealing too much about the windows setup [18:03]
asciilifeform: something to do with msvs cpp runtime lib. [18:03]
asciilifeform: i omitted this detail because i could not fathom why anyone might care, and still cannot... [18:04]
adlai: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/arta-pedepsirii/#comment-119537 [18:04]
asciilifeform: but! i then replaced the thing with... msdos box. and 1990s proggy. which worx flawlessly. [18:06]
mircea_popescu: oh oh rigjht [18:06]
asciilifeform: srsly if you wanna drive a parallel port gadget in realtime - straight to msdos. [18:07]
asciilifeform: fuck multiprocessing. [18:07]
adlai: mircea_popescu: thank you for the translation! [18:10]
mircea_popescu: answert/ [18:10]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha, it's been my conclusion also. [18:11]
mircea_popescu: do you know what's the lulziest thing i heard in response to stating it ? [18:11]
mircea_popescu: "well... on modern systems you could easily emulate multiple msdos in paralel" [18:11]
asciilifeform: specifically no [18:12]
mircea_popescu: aha. [18:12]
asciilifeform: when my thing goes 'logic high on pin 2 and then 10ms later -- logic low' it has to be 10ms [18:13]
asciilifeform: and not 10 + parasitic interrupt handlers. [18:13]
mircea_popescu: it's just stupid in principle, in the very peculiar manner of libertard socialism. "oh, you can have the thing that works, provided it doesn't work anymore" [18:14]
adlai: mircea_popescu: answer-answert afterthought - there's a theory that holocaust survivors' grandchildren are better off than they'd have been if the first assasination attempt against hitler had succeeded, and it's probably not wrong. [18:18]
adlai: in other news, i have sitting next to me a yet-unboxed Gizmo Explorer 1, which compromises the rest of the night's "work" (after qntring the diff adjustment) [18:19]
mircea_popescu: enjoy. [18:19]
adlai: i will. thank ~you~! [18:20]
shinohai: WHo all has these Gizmos right now ... mod6 ? [18:23]
mircea_popescu: amazon [18:25]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not afaik [18:26]
asciilifeform: never did, unless it just now happened [18:26]
mircea_popescu: no ? where were they from ? [18:26]
adlai: shinohai: if you're asking where to buy the Sage Smartprobe, i'm not aware of any way to get it other than thru "Symmetry Electronics" (WoT: Nonperson) [18:27]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-23#1547445 [18:27]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-23 02:00 trinque: thortron: http://www.semiconductorstore.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=48524 << linked from the gizmo 1's website [18:27]
mircea_popescu: oh [18:27]
mircea_popescu: shinohai i take it back, not amazon. [18:27]
asciilifeform: seems like it's down to that 1 warehouse [18:27]
shinohai: I was on the fence about it anyway, spent my gizmo budget on a lappy to run African linux for testing eulora repos instead. [18:28]
adlai: quoth theBay: "0 results found for sage smartprobe, so we searched for sage smartphone" [18:28]
adlai: might make a killing if you have a crateful lying around, asciilifeform ! [18:28]
asciilifeform: shinohai: it's a veeery specialized tool, very much not an 'everybody' item imho [18:29]
asciilifeform: adlai: i dun have so many left. [18:29]
shinohai: I know, of which you have discussed before [18:29]
mircea_popescu: it certainly doesn't look like a horrible investment from a antiquarian pov. [18:34]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/P0nA8 << in other lulz [18:37]
asciilifeform: 'Thousands of California soldiers forced to repay enlistment bonuses a decade after going to war' [18:38]
mircea_popescu: awww. [18:38]
mircea_popescu: oh which reminds me, did they mosul yet ? [18:38]
asciilifeform: iirc they hired some local orcs [18:38]
mircea_popescu: o look at that! apparently they... got pushed back ? and kirkuk is under attack now ? [18:39]
mircea_popescu: this dun look too good. [18:39]
mircea_popescu: dozens dead, hostages taken, o brother. [18:42]
ben_vulpes: can any other gentoo users confirm/deny that the libzdb-2.12 ebuild is hosed? [18:47]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> mebbe one day. though the gist is in english anyway. << AHA, that's a very important point. Gotta work to understand the rules. [18:51]
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/uYc0P << buenos aires has a night life and teheran has protests. not irl, of course, but a generation of keyboard warriors shaped the delusions of a generation of dreamers. [18:53]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/the-bitcoin-foundation-celebrates-its-second-birthday/ << Qntra - The Bitcoin Foundation Celebrates Its Second Birthday [18:57]
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/8Si2r rt has ~the same story. [18:58]
adlai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/0c3ty/?raw=truev [20:06]
jhvh1: adlai: The operation succeeded. [20:06]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/bitcoin-network-difficulty-drops-for-only-second-time-since-second-halving-down-1-90-still-18-8-above-hash-at-halving/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Network Difficulty Drops For Only Second Time Since Second Halving: Down 1.90%, Still 18.8% Above Hash At Halving [20:13]
BingoBoingo: Xtend is still accreting [20:31]
mod6: Thanks for the qntra shout out to the Foundation's birthday BingoBoingo. [21:43]
BingoBoingo: yw [21:43]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-22#1558333 << what didja expect? stalingrad ? [22:07]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-22 22:42 mircea_popescu: dozens dead, hostages taken, o brother. [22:07]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/not-quite-news-roundup-xtend-11-tmr/ << Qntra - Not Quite News Roundup Xtend 11 (TM)(R) [22:17]
ben_vulpes: solid extend, bb [23:33]
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