Forum logs for 22 Dec 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [11:44] |
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mircea_popescu | !up jasonjuta | [11:45] |
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mircea_popescu | hey there j. | [11:45] |
mircea_popescu | and hello all! | [11:45] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo loved the article btw. | [11:45] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Thank you. | [11:46] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: I left an easter egg in the article for asciilifeform | [11:46] |
mircea_popescu | jurov any chance reddit will get DERPified? << mebbe, i'dhave to look into it. if it does it won't be this year. | [11:46] |
Adlai | how about "F.NAST", evoking both the corporate relative, and the place's general smell | [11:49] |
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mircea_popescu | i think nast sold. | [11:50] |
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mircea_popescu | currently owned by some fraud vehicle basically. | [11:51] |
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thestringpuller | oh lok | [11:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4100 @ 0.0012 = 4.92 BTC | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu | Adlai if anything it'd be s.advc or something. except they're insulated iirc, so... | [11:53] |
Adlai | advc? | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of corporations without official headquarters. | [11:53] |
Adlai | and why would it be an S? | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu | Advance Publications, teh newhouse family thing. | [11:54] |
Adlai | ah | [11:54] |
mircea_popescu | all derps are s. | [11:54] |
Adlai | er aren't they D? | [11:54] |
Adlai | we both derped | [11:54] |
mircea_popescu | lol myeah | [11:54] |
mircea_popescu | oops :p | [11:55] |
Adlai | the fuckup fairy loves a threesome | [11:55] |
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* | Adlai keeps reading http://www.thebaffler.com/salvos/crowdsourcing-scam | [11:55] |
assbot | The Crowdsourcing Scam - The Baffler ... ( http://bit.ly/1wegiBz ) | [11:55] |
thestringpuller | oh its a mircea_popescu | [11:56] |
mircea_popescu | hey tsp | [11:57] |
fluffypony | pircea_momescu | [11:57] |
thestringpuller | dunno if reddit will ever be profitable long term. it's like borderline derp | [11:57] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google site:trilema.com pircea mopescu | [11:59] |
gribble | Cutremur in Costa Rica pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: |
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mircea_popescu | NOT NEW! | [11:59] |
Adlai | reddit will be rather profitable if they can increase by an order of magnitude the number of casual bitcoin dabblers, while watching their every breath, move, bond, and step | [12:01] |
mircea_popescu | unlikely. | [12:02] |
mircea_popescu | this is like saying that the spanish empire could be quite profitable if "it increases" the number of jews inhabiting it. for one thing, it's not the empire increasing it, for the other, they'll fuck it up | [12:02] |
mircea_popescu | because they don't have the mind in the right place. | [12:02] |
Adlai | they wouldn't be making money off the amount of wealth transfered, though. they'd be making money per successful ad targeting. | [12:03] |
thestringpuller | Adlai: their ad system is terrible. | [12:03] |
mircea_popescu | lolk,. | [12:03] |
mircea_popescu | they'd make money selling leavened bread to moses ? | [12:03] |
mircea_popescu | this plan that could possibly go wrong.jpg | [12:04] |
thestringpuller | why do that when you can just get mana from God? | [12:04] |
Adlai | s/will/could potentially, should they properly leverage their position etcetcblabla/ | [12:04] |
mircea_popescu | these theoretical potentials, you know ? men could breastfeed if they leveraged their boobs. | [12:04] |
thestringpuller | uh? | [12:05] |
mircea_popescu | pigs could fly if only they batted their ears fast enough! | [12:05] |
thestringpuller | ^- i think you mean elephants | [12:05] |
mircea_popescu | elephants are too heavy :D | [12:05] |
thestringpuller | it's funny how reddit consistently can't pay bills due to more users using it... | [12:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22128 @ 0.00066494 = 14.7138 BTC [-] | [12:07] |
thestringpuller | "We are a victim of our own success" | [12:07] |
BingoBoingo | thestringpuller: You just don't know how the world works!!! | [12:07] |
Adlai | dunno. seems to me like they're just trying to get their edge in the graph-coloring race, in whatever way seems opportune right now. not saying anything about the likelihood of any individual participant to come out ahead, but there is a race and somebody will be winning it. | [12:08] |
thestringpuller | graph coloring race? aren't coloring books for toddlers? | [12:08] |
mircea_popescu | im with adlai. | [12:10] |
mircea_popescu | they're trying to be the biggest pony express company this side of the railroad, because such is the way things go. | [12:10] |
Adlai | "coloring" is probably the wrong word for this: turning the bitcoin transaction/address graph into a bitcoin transaction/[corporate]person graph | [12:10] |
mircea_popescu | a, not what i thought you meant. | [12:11] |
Adlai | what do you mean by pony express? | [12:11] |
mircea_popescu | what i thought you meant was : 1. people will make up numbers, irrespective of any reality, because it's what people do ; 2. those numbers will be put on an arbitrary graph ; 3. there will be a race to pretend meaning out of this meaningless combo. which race we call "painting the graph" | [12:11] |
mircea_popescu | sort-of like obama sitting in front of a line angled from the bottom left to the upper right, for no particular reason, that "represents" the "people", neither quoted symbols meaningful to any degree. | [12:12] |
Adlai | that race is only worth watching if there are some real captains of industry bidding on the fastest horse | [12:12] |
mircea_popescu | or just like a ceo stands in front of the same holy line, supposedly his performance somewhere in therer. | [12:12] |
Adlai | meanwhile it'll be fun to see how they conjure up an insecure security | [12:13] |
mircea_popescu | so in this sense, they wish to be the biggest provider of obsolete nonsense to the new world of novel nonsense. | [12:13] |
Adlai | well they're already the frontpage of nonsense :) | [12:13] |
mircea_popescu | so is timecube. | [12:14] |
mircea_popescu | nonsense has this blessed ability to carry an infinite number of front pages. | [12:14] |
BingoBoingo | Oh, a quality control meme https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5dFR_dCcAASG4r.jpg | [12:15] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1weiMjv ) | [12:15] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Well I thought that one of the timecube's essential points. | [12:15] |
thestringpuller | ;;ud timecube | [12:15] |
mircea_popescu | holy shit the chinese actually understand why chinese women are ugly ?! | [12:15] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=timecube | Referring to timecube.com. Used to describe someone or something that is so stupid it tears at the very fabric of reality. | [12:15] |
Adlai | what's the financial incentive to paint these graphs? somebody must be subsidizing for companies to compete over it, even if it's just inadvertent subsidizing by clueless VC bagholders | [12:15] |
* | mircea_popescu head blown | [12:16] |
mircea_popescu | Adlai it's much simpler than that. confine three people in a space, notice they will talk. the stuff they talk about is unimportant, to them and everyone else. | [12:16] |
mircea_popescu | this same fundmental process is at work in "business". | [12:16] |
Adlai | ok, true. how about: "the steve pavlinas of the world" | [12:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26642 @ 0.00067461 = 17.973 BTC [+] {2} | [12:17] |
mircea_popescu | that name seems familiar but wtf is it | [12:17] |
Adlai | you read enough of his nonsense and you'll find a bit of sense, but the SNR is woefully low | [12:18] |
mircea_popescu | o the weirdo guru/ex convict nut. | [12:18] |
Adlai | http://www.stevepavlina.com/ | [12:18] |
assbot | Personal Development for Smart People - Steve Pavlina ... ( http://bit.ly/1weja1u ) | [12:18] |
mircea_popescu | is this the guy that's married to the beached whale spiritualist ? | [12:18] |
mircea_popescu | erika or something | [12:18] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2010/11/our-separation-one-year-later/ | [12:18] |
assbot | Erin Pavlina ... ( http://bit.ly/1wejduh ) | [12:18] |
mircea_popescu | not no more lol | [12:18] |
thestringpuller | lol my work says that's a malcious url | [12:19] |
thestringpuller | LOL | [12:19] |
thestringpuller | stevepavlina.com that i | [12:19] |
thestringpuller | s | [12:19] |
mircea_popescu | meh, malicious. kinda dumb, but then again... | [12:19] |
Adlai | things seemed to have gone downhill after the original reason that i'm familiar with this guy: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep/ | [12:20] |
assbot | Polyphasic Sleep ... ( http://bit.ly/1wejmOn ) | [12:20] |
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mircea_popescu | all you weirdos fucking with your sleep i swear... | [12:20] |
mircea_popescu | why! just let it be omg. | [12:20] |
BingoBoingo | !b 4 | [12:20] |
assbot | Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3JZ0JA7.txt ) | [12:20] |
Adlai | this is the only instance i've found of somebody claiming to pull this off properly, and then return to "normal" just for convenience | [12:20] |
mircea_popescu | if normalcy is convenient then wtf was he doing anyway | [12:21] |
mircea_popescu | "Erin Pavlina is a highly gifted intuitive counselor who connects with your spirit guides to provide you information and insights that will help you on your path. " | [12:22] |
mircea_popescu | holy shit, she should hire herself. | [12:22] |
Adlai | look at their domains. they get divorced and cut the house in half? | [12:23] |
mircea_popescu | i knew a number of chicks that got divorced while owning a one room apartment with hubby, so put a curtain down the middle. | [12:24] |
mircea_popescu | imagine, sharing the tiny ass bathroom with your ex | [12:25] |
BingoBoingo | Imagine if the only room was the bathroon! | [12:28] |
mircea_popescu | there's this ancient tradition among german tribes transplanted in transylvania, that a couple may only divorce after having spent a day in a tiny hut with a single plate, spoon, stool etc. | [12:29] |
Adlai | how about a couple may only get married after spending two weeks in that hut | [12:34] |
mircea_popescu | no because they'll fuck in any case after which the guy won't marry. | [12:38] |
BingoBoingo | !b 6 | [12:39] |
assbot | Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/16Y2YK2.txt ) | [12:39] |
BingoBoingo | So how is this vacation going? Still growing tits? | [12:41] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [12:41] |
mircea_popescu | bathing in black forest atm | [12:41] |
mircea_popescu | (it's a kind of cake) | [12:41] |
BingoBoingo | Ah, we have that here. Or at least a fascimile of it. Hard to tell here. | [12:45] |
mircea_popescu | im having my own version tho. no whipped cream. all home made. | [12:45] |
BingoBoingo | Nice | [12:45] |
mircea_popescu | homemade cakes are one of those religious experiences that put the innocent at risk of fundamentally altering their life. a steak gets ruined through the industrial process, of course, but somehow not quite to the degree | [12:47] |
mircea_popescu | cakes made by machines however... they're not really cakes. | [12:47] |
mircea_popescu | just the margerine alone. it's like instead of exanguinating the beast, you'd replace its blood with brake fluid, then butcher it. | [12:49] |
mircea_popescu | imagine, brake fluid steak! | [12:49] |
BingoBoingo | OMG Great idea, but instead of brake fluid... Wine transfusion for the cow before steaking it. | [12:50] |
mircea_popescu | im kinda curious why that never happened. | [12:50] |
mircea_popescu | a good six gallons of middling burgundy should do the trick. | [12:50] |
BingoBoingo | I really dunno. | [12:51] |
mircea_popescu | i guess if we ever make the bitcoin ranch it's getting tried. | [12:51] |
BingoBoingo | I mean alternately instead of beering up the cows like the Japanese do, it might be worth raising some seriously alcoholic cows. | [12:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 993 @ 0.0012 = 1.1916 BTC | [12:54] |
mircea_popescu | nah | [12:54] |
BingoBoingo | The offal might have to go to some food recyclers, but ptobably get hella marbling in the meat. | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu | that doesn't work, herbivores get liver damage then the meat gets poisoned with fifty thousand different byproducts of a broken liver. | [12:55] |
BingoBoingo | Ah | [12:55] |
Adlai | stem cells! | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu | the main reason herbivore meat is so good (and we don't eat cat) is that its liver is so big and its diet so simple that the meat becomes very narrow, chemically | [12:55] |
Adlai | graphene filters! | [12:55] |
Adlai | cmon people, we can figure this one out | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu | burn the withc. | [12:55] |
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Naphex | o/ | [13:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28932 @ 0.00066445 = 19.2239 BTC [-] {2} | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | heya Naphex | [13:22] |
Naphex | hey hey | [13:22] |
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davout | Naphex: hello | [13:25] |
davout | how's the btcxchange.ro thing going? | [13:25] |
Naphex | dunno | [13:25] |
Naphex | seems still up | [13:26] |
davout | im kinda curious as to why messages from seemingly you and your associate are still up on the frontpage | [13:26] |
Naphex | no idea, that guy went full retard and just wrote shit on the news page | [13:28] |
Naphex | i'm waiting to be cited to give any explinations, not talking to that shithead otherwise:p | [13:28] |
davout | and he left the item about users being advised to empty their accounts? | [13:29] |
Naphex | he mostly did everything, i just quit and fucked off when he started rageing | [13:29] |
Naphex | including all the shitty announces | [13:30] |
Naphex | "Oh woes, i do not have control on the servers, i have to manually check each transaction" | [13:31] |
Naphex | you gotta figure what happened after he posted that | [13:31] |
Naphex | every dude on the internet started sending him a screenshot | [13:31] |
Naphex | so i wish him good luck | [13:32] |
davout | lol | [13:34] |
davout | "please prove your balance" | [13:34] |
Naphex | yep | [13:34] |
davout | "sure, have a screenshot" | [13:34] |
davout | derp | [13:34] |
Naphex | the servers only send to any queue with user confirmation (email, otp, password | [13:35] |
Naphex | so btc all works fine | [13:35] |
Naphex | but he decided to fuck with anyone with some fiat to withdraw | [13:35] |
mircea_popescu | if only they had gpg | [13:35] |
davout | mircea_popescu: what took you so long | [13:35] |
davout | :D | [13:35] |
mircea_popescu | i'm writing :) | [13:36] |
davout | jurov: building a magazine? | [13:50] |
jurov | let's see what emerge phrack does... | [13:51] |
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thestringpuller | "gpg users unaffected" very similar to "bitcoin user unaffected" | [13:53] |
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jurov | https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=533314 feel free to have fun here | [13:57] |
assbot | Bug 533314 – please stabilize app-doc/phrack , app-doc/phrack-all ... ( http://bit.ly/1x3qH72 ) | [13:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 893 @ 0.0012 = 1.0716 BTC {2} | [13:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22371 @ 0.00066408 = 14.8561 BTC [-] | [14:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1610 @ 0.00066276 = 1.067 BTC [-] | [14:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00067249 = 11.2978 BTC [+] | [14:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17666 @ 0.00067287 = 11.8869 BTC [+] {3} | [14:26] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2327 @ 0.0012 = 2.7924 BTC {3} | [14:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1036 @ 0.0012 = 1.2432 BTC {2} | [14:32] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1357 @ 0.0012 = 1.6284 BTC | [14:42] |
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BingoBoingo | http://qntra.net/2014/12/belarus-experiences-bonanzacurrency-panic/ | [14:46] |
assbot | Belarus Experiences Bonanza/Currency Panic | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1weFEzm ) | [14:46] |
BingoBoingo | !up huseby | [14:46] |
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jurov | soo.. phrack ebuild created a buch of files like /usr/share/doc/phrack/p66_0x01_Introduction.txt.bz2 | [14:48] |
davout | txt.bz2 because your disk space totally is the limiting factor | [14:48] |
jurov | would be way cooler if it compiled code samples,too :D | [14:49] |
TomServo | BingoBoingo: The "show trials" link on the most recent bahahahra/ulbricht article has an errant http:// suffix. | [14:57] |
TomServo | Also, nice article. | [14:57] |
BingoBoingo | Thanks, will fix | [15:01] |
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danielpbarron | jurov, did you get my later tell? | [15:06] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19940 @ 0.00066691 = 13.2982 BTC [-] {2} | [15:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29071 @ 0.00065472 = 19.0334 BTC [-] {2} | [15:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47249 @ 0.00064925 = 30.6764 BTC [-] {4} | [15:40] |
mircea_popescu | anyone wanna do a coupla bux' paypal payment for me ? | [15:40] |
danielpbarron | i do | [15:43] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [15:49] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 331.63, Best ask: 332.18, Bid-ask spread: 0.55000, Last trade: 332.2, 24 hour volume: 12015.61092957, 24 hour low: 319.9, 24 hour high: 333.95, 24 hour vwap: 326.796030377 | [15:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37100 @ 0.0006423 = 23.8293 BTC [-] {3} | [15:52] |
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mircea_popescu | laters terrorists! | [16:02] |
Python | interface unloaded | [16:02] |
Tcl | interface unloaded | [16:02] |
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