Forum logs for 21 Mar 2018

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-20-mar-2018#2413058 << his does a strange "shadow" act periodically. [00:48]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-20 14:53 diana_coman: o.O it actually reports 514385 while mimisbrunnr reports 514382 [00:48]
mircea_popescu: not entirely surew what. [00:48]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz from the everfount, https://fetlife.com/users/8126611 [03:08]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-20#1788301 << who the fuck is henry baker. [03:24]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-20 23:00 trinque: "Information Domain Counter to Belt and Road" << these fucking idiots. yes, China's actual manufacturing and actual trade routes will be no match for usg.tmobile's netflix stream quality. [03:24]
mircea_popescu: (some douche at mit, minor chickening around scheme, utter fucktard in all possible respects, and very much in the mit flagship sense, too) [03:24]
mircea_popescu: o also, did we do the "uber self-driving car kills woman crossing street" ? [03:51]
ben_vulpes: "paranoid-schizophrenic commits suicide by robocar" [04:09]
ben_vulpes: node that mimisbrunnr is attached to is wedged in an interesting state, going to see about a dump with gdb tomorrow [04:11]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788312 << not quite 'utter in all respects', did quality work on garbagecollection in 1980s [08:04]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 07:24 mircea_popescu: (some douche at mit, minor chickening around scheme, utter fucktard in all possible respects, and very much in the mit flagship sense, too) [08:04]
asciilifeform: even in '90s, incl the quite well known http://www.pipeline.com/~hbaker1/CheneyMTA.html item [08:05]
asciilifeform: however today he seems to mostly crackpotiferate on that 1 ml. [08:06]
asciilifeform: old age suxx. [08:06]
asciilifeform: also if anyone bothered to read the linked turd, baker is not the author, it is ocr from usg leak [08:08]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788309 << demands login [08:11]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 07:08 mircea_popescu: in other lulz from the everfount, https://fetlife.com/users/8126611 [08:11]
ave1: diana_coman: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/01/04/eucrypt-chapter-4-random-prime-number-generator/#comment-1121 [09:19]
ave1: Also, self-pings did not work on nfs hosting (and probably other website hosters) [09:27]
ave1: For mp-wp. [09:27]
diana_coman: ave1, that highbit/lowbit thing is touched upon in http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/12/07/introducing-eucrypt/#selection-133.195-133.456 I'll look again at it though and in more detail at your suggestion, thank you [09:28]
ave1: Turns out that the pingback fix in mp-wp, will reject self-pings as the ip address does not match (backend code runs on different server than front end site) [09:28]
ave1: So the filter needs to be adjusted a little [09:29]
ave1: This is what I have now: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/NJhMO/?raw=true [09:29]
ave1: I'm logging the pings, to check how I can enumerate the good sites [09:30]
diana_coman: ave1, and the trouble with changing stuff in mpi is that one needs to track afterwards ALL calls/uses of that code I was rather avoiding changing mpi unless I really really needed [09:31]
diana_coman: needed to* [09:31]
ave1: diana_coman: I can understand! [09:33]
diana_coman: found it: http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/12/28/eucrypt-chapter-3-miller-rabin-implementation/#selection-169.0-169.1019 <- ave1 [09:36]
diana_coman: ave1 I really appreciate your scrutiny of eucrypt - keep it up! :) [09:41]
ave1: no problem! I'm working on a command line tool with eucrypt and I keep hitting my head against seemingly strange code. Which needs to be read and re-read, and then checked. [09:43]
ave1: Also the terminology of high/low, leading/trailing, bits/limbs/octets etc. keeps tripping me up. The limbs are stored low to high, wich means 0 is trailing, n is leading. [09:46]
diana_coman: I feel your pain: it's insane-mpi for sure [09:47]
mod6: diana_coman: Alright, your node has been added her: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html (Advertised Republican Nodes) [09:50]
mod6: Thanks! [09:50]
diana_coman: yay, thanks mod6 ! [09:50]
mod6: you're very welcome :] [09:52]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788314 << no but see, the way i understand it, the whole appeal of the entire usg.robocar concept is that it removes human agency wrt traffic oucomes. if this illusion is not sustainable "why bother" as per usg.logic. discussing the event in terms of characteristics of the victim, ESPECIALLY in that "suicide" direction, cements defeat in this logic. [10:00]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 08:09 ben_vulpes: "paranoid-schizophrenic commits suicide by robocar" [10:00]
mircea_popescu: they shouldn't "have been able to", and the more "insane" THE MORE SO, not the less so. [10:01]
mircea_popescu: this isn't a rational, reality-bound, economics-driven process, after all. pure hallucinatoria, just add verbiage. [10:01]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788321 << yaya okok, he didn't do it and wasn't even there. ml is a terrifyingly horrible medium, as it turns out. [10:02]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 12:08 asciilifeform: also if anyone bothered to read the linked turd, baker is not the author, it is ocr from usg leak [10:02]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788322 << ah i forgot, these are the security pantsuit. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/XXkvW/?raw=true (the best part, other than the lulzy failed jay-z appearance, is the "hard limit : bruises" worldview. mutha srsly thinks "i've never been punched" is a sustainable lifestyle for the "politically involved", and actively prefers to have never seen http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/i [10:11]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 12:11 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788309 << demands login [10:11]
mircea_popescu: mages/antifa.gif [10:11]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/antifa.gif ) [10:11]
mircea_popescu: talk about male-to-female transitioning, that's it right there. [10:11]
mircea_popescu: reading ave1 's comment on diana_coman 's blog i realise that besides the common t/d substitution rampant here, there's also an exotic substitution, p for b! [10:14]
mircea_popescu: i fucking hope it's not catching, god help me if i end up learning dislexyas from the internets. [10:15]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788325 << from what i understand they don't work on nfs because nfs is broken by design (alf tho thinks this is not a bug but a feature, something in the vein of "if you deliberately break the lock on your mailbox, you may miss out on some mail, it's true, but you can always claim in court you never got their papers" or such). [10:17]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 13:27 ave1: Also, self-pings did not work on nfs hosting (and probably other website hosters) [10:17]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788355 << lol, korea [10:19]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 14:14 mircea_popescu: reading ave1 's comment on diana_coman 's blog i realise that besides the common t/d substitution rampant here, there's also an exotic substitution, p for b! [10:19]
asciilifeform: iirc p/b, t/d, g/k, r/l [10:19]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788328 << this is there because of the whole http://trilema.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-wanna-be/ the short story being that if you don't check whether the ip of the ping-announcer matches the ip of the supposed ping sender, you turn your wordpress installation into a DDoS amplifier whereby one can (and plenty DO, there's lists published on trilema periodically, can dig up if you wish) have your [10:20]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 13:28 ave1: Turns out that the pingback fix in mp-wp, will reject self-pings as the ip address does not match (backend code runs on different server than front end site) [10:20]
mircea_popescu: server load soem deisgnated victim's pages for a cost of one ~100 byte packet. [10:20]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a scandal! [10:20]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788331 << whitelist-only pinging might well be an improvement on the current situation worth discussing. so on the basis of trilema experience : [10:24]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 13:30 ave1: I'm logging the pings, to check how I can enumerate the good sites [10:24]
mircea_popescu: the advantage of the current system (anyone can ping, ips must match, not seen before sources go in mod queue) is that anyone can just ping, without prior arrangement. [10:25]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788357 << it is 'broken' like this : you don't get a box (or even virtual box) with a particular ip, on nfs co, but rather a thing reminiscent of crapflare (but built ~20yrs prior) where the dns resolves as ip x for some loads, ip y for others, etc. so as to spread the ddosolade around. ( somewhat surprisingly, it actually worx -- eats multi-GB without coughing ) [10:26]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 14:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788325 << from what i understand they don't work on nfs because nfs is broken by design (alf tho thinks this is not a bug but a feature, something in the vein of "if you deliberately break the lock on your mailbox, you may miss out on some mail, it's true, but you can always claim in court you never got their papers" or such). [10:26]
mircea_popescu: this advantage is however massively moderated by the sheer lunatic imbecility of english speakers, whereby i do not think it has happened yet that five people actually linked to an article on trilema without prior arrangement, such as their having a wot presence etc. there's one exception that comes to mind, some dood running a "dark underground" or w/e blog. this OVER TEN YEARS nigh on. [10:26]
mircea_popescu: the disadvantage, and it is marked, is that there's an endless supply of "independent" and hallucinatorily "free" imbeciles, and EACH AND EVERY ONE will have to try foisting any idiotic little scheme from the annals of ancient schemes upon the entire world. [10:26]
mircea_popescu: as a result, trilema answers xmlrpc.php calls to the tune of ten a second every second, every day of every week of ever year. there's many many millions each month, no exception to date. [10:27]
mircea_popescu: and they'll do it 1mn times per ip, no problem, they just set up the script, until the host kicks them off they literally don't care about anything. [10:28]
mircea_popescu: what "look and see if my idiocy works" ?!?! that's practically racism. [10:28]
mircea_popescu: now, if xmlrpc.php had a whitelist, something as simple as a htaccess deny from all allow from x, this whole idiocy would go away. [10:28]
mircea_popescu: the disadvantage, of course, is that you have to now police a private, hand-cobbled dns, because ips change. [10:29]
mircea_popescu: which is why i've not done it to date. [10:29]
asciilifeform: probably easier to manually curate a list of friendly items that linked to yours, and dispense with the wp automagic ping thing [10:30]
mircea_popescu: i loathe to curate anything by hand. [10:30]
mircea_popescu: point in case -- you think you can curate by hand a list of friends, yet your "blogroll" is perpetually out of date i don't have one nor ever had one for this exact reason, i ain't handcurating jack. [10:30]
mircea_popescu: whole fucking point of even having computers is to not curate things by hand. [10:31]
mircea_popescu: ave1 that all make sense ? [10:32]
ave1: Yes indeed! Also about the curating [10:33]
mircea_popescu: what i would REALLY like would be a pill whereby something spawned forth by cunt speaking english is NO LONGER this fundamentally idiotic moron who simply can not engage the world. [10:33]
mircea_popescu: go talk to a girl and ping a blog, motherfuckers, jesus fucking christ on a cracker they LIED TO YOU, it's immoral NOT TO! you don't catch anything from sticking it into the wet sight unseen. [10:34]
mircea_popescu: you catch stupid by FOREGOING that sticking! [10:34]
* mircea_popescu has seen some tourists over the arbitrary weekend and it's given me a right and proper crise de la foie. [10:34]
ave1: bbl, dentist [10:35]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788339 << i can't tell you how annoying it is that mpi starts with mp. [10:38]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 13:47 diana_coman: I feel your pain: it's insane-mpi for sure [10:38]
mircea_popescu: aand to keep up with the historical lulz, in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787189 there's of course http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/woAj5/?raw=true [10:41]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:21 mircea_popescu: this entire exercise in idiocy has, practically speaking, resulted in me paying various hard working ticos a grand or so, to the people fucking in the ass the "security" paradigm of pantsuit.fetlife. IN LIEU of having paid that much, and rather more, to the fetlife itself. [10:41]
mircea_popescu: did i mention scripts can do anything ? [10:41]
asciilifeform: in other quasi-noose, if n is p*q, and 4p-1 = d*b^2, where b is integer and d is in {3,11,19,43,67,163}, n is factorable in polynomial time (with modest constant!) [10:54]
mircea_popescu: ha! [10:54]
asciilifeform: ( proof lives sadly in this : https://eprint.iacr.org/2002/109.pdf turd ) [10:55]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally this is exactly the general formula i'd expect of nsa sponsored holes in rsa. p = a * x ^ b [10:55]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the kind of thing described by shamir and lenstra for 'evil prime generator' [10:55]
mircea_popescu: quite equivalent yes. [10:56]
asciilifeform: the notable bit is that it does not fall into any of the previously documented classes [10:56]
asciilifeform: ( e.g. pollard's ) [10:56]
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788390 <- good it ends with i at least, then [10:56]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 14:38 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788339 << i can't tell you how annoying it is that mpi starts with mp. [10:56]
mircea_popescu: in fact and rather transparently, the whole "secret curve" pseudocryptography is a direct result of all the nsa time spent chasing those a and b (no b doesn't HAVE TO BE 2, just as long as you know how you round it can also be a real) [10:56]
mircea_popescu: after having idiots driven through the deserts for 20 years over at "secret labs", something like EC is a necessary byproduct just for the sake of maintaining whatever shreds of sanity. [10:57]
asciilifeform: i like how asciilifeform doesn't have to elaborate, mircea_popescu instantly grasped the boojum. almost as good as telepathy!11 [10:57]
mircea_popescu: much like original zeks kept habits of making figurines out of bread or whittling pine or w/e long into the 70s. [10:57]
asciilifeform: needless to say cheng's 4p-1 is getting added to phuctor as soon as it stands back up. [10:58]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this sort of telepatyh when http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-21#1411615 [10:58]
a111: Logged on 2016-02-21 02:14 mircea_popescu: (and for the record i will point out that tlp is anglotard enough to miss most of the substance. there's perfecty good reason everyone painted the same god damned vase with two apples next to it, and this has little do to with "you're not boring son ok" and a lot of fucking things to do with ... damn, where's that thread about ther ancient battlefield ? [10:58]
asciilifeform: if there were a place to take bets, could take best on how many pop, lol [10:58]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha [10:58]
asciilifeform: btw for anybody who hasn't grasped yet, n can have as many prime factors as you want. (e.g. P(phuctorade-set) say) [11:04]
asciilifeform: there's prolly an ideal batch size where the arithmetic still fits in cache, which it'd make sense to use. but this is a detail for later. [11:05]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/ledger-hardware-wallet-backdoored-by-child-who-releases-proof-of-concept-attack/ << Qntra - Ledger "Hardware Wallet" Backdoored By Child Who Releases Proof Of Concept Attack [11:40]
mircea_popescu: lel [12:02]
BingoBoingo: Now the determination to refer to the discoverer as a child is related to his doing interesting things without a WoT presence, not because the fellow says he is 15 [12:04]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz, https://www.google.com/search?q=Nikol33cr%40gmail.com https://www.google.com/search?q=Valeria23cr%40gmail.com https://www.google.com/search?q=Karina19cr%40gmail.com [12:08]
mircea_popescu: imagine, the dork actually automated gmail signup process in order to beg for... phone charges. [12:08]
mircea_popescu: if this doesn't have a strong perfume of original hackertude about it i dunno what does. [12:08]
BingoBoingo: Latino enginudity [12:12]
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile catching up on dispatches from mines back in the old country: "The side effects can be brutal. One medication exacerbated my depression and I ended up trying to take my own life. Immediately, while I was still in critical care, each of my three children’s fathers filed emergency petitions and took the kids." [12:13]
mircea_popescu: dude... why is item with children with by three fathers not chained to a post somewhere. wtf get it off the internets. [12:15]
BingoBoingo: I blame Lincoln and Victoria [12:18]
ben_vulpes: !~ticker --market all [12:38]
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 8871.71, vol: 12909.92403708 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 8860.0, vol: 48324.82676929 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 8870.0, vol: 11577.2398336 | Volume-weighted last average: 8863.6662589 [12:38]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in fearless genii, http://zimbuzz.co.zw/2017/10/09/kikky-badass-queen-of-the-south-album/ [12:41]
mircea_popescu: ("sir" wicknell is a legitimate us/ru-style businessman, zimbabwe govt also "awards" contracts) [12:43]
mircea_popescu: "Like a bad ass she is, she proved to be wise beyond her years by standing head and shoulders (Or is it ass-tall) with the boys." doesn't even INTEND irony, you realise. [12:44]
lobbes: "produced by one of Africa’s best producers WizzyProbeatz" lol. Whocouldforget [12:45]
mircea_popescu: https://www.herald.co.zw/chivayo-prosecution-imminent/ etc [12:46]
ben_vulpes: "queen of the south" album cover bears a striking resemblance to pussy [12:46]
mircea_popescu: at least they're trying. "orcs trying" is becoming quite the lulzmine trope. [12:47]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/usg-whispers-pleas-of-war-on-terror-and-special-operations-command-in-mikrotik-router-shitware-case/ << Qntra - USG Whispers Pleas Of "War On Terror" And "Special Operations Command" In MikroTik Router Shitware Case [12:54]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/where-eagles-date/ << Trilema - Where eagles date [13:45]
mircea_popescu: in other random, shopping girl returns bearing shopping items among there included, a plunger. [14:21]
mircea_popescu: in this language, it is called ... DESTUPIDOR [14:21]
mircea_popescu: if only it fucking worked jaysus. [14:21]
* asciilifeform at one time tried to make a 'destupidator', even had the .com regged [14:22]
mircea_popescu: did it consist of a little rubber on a stick ? [14:26]
asciilifeform: thatd've worked better, lol [14:28]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> if only it fucking worked jaysus. << lol! [14:48]
mircea_popescu: word. [15:02]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in unusually-lively amerifolx, https://archive.is/xWRiV [18:25]
asciilifeform: 'Authorities were outside the hotel early Wednesday when Conditt got in his vehicle and drove away. They followed him until he pulled into a ditch and blew himself up, police said. The blast injured a SWAT officer.' etc [18:27]
mircea_popescu: nitroglycerin : better use too much lest you risk using too little. [18:31]
* asciilifeform wonders if the tight little red bag around d00d's head is standard police kit nao [18:33]
asciilifeform: (or possibly was ordinary white shopping bag when new, lol) [18:34]
mircea_popescu: in other news, people actually inquire with google re "russian billionaire email address loc ru" and such. in english and everything. then google points them... to me. [18:46]
mircea_popescu: strictly unplumbable, the depts of the idiocy of the contemporaneous subhuman. that they actually fucking believe the skinner box takes input is one thing but that they imagine it will produce food for them, rather than eat it itself ?! what, all that's missing is the correct incantation ? [18:47]
mircea_popescu: idiots biologically unfit to the world as it presented itself 1mya, that's how far this "security and respect" paradigm sunk us. [18:48]
hanbot: so nearlyfreespeech hosting's insistence on using buttpay plays out like so: thewhet.net is offline, i can't make a payment to get it back online (precious addy must stay at home and hide under the blankets!!1), and i can't talk to 'em, cause low and behold the support subscription (which i'd been paying for for many months) expired so my ticket is pegged for the trash, please pay to talk into the clownmouth. [19:42]
* asciilifeform admits to never having attempted paying'em in btc [19:45]
mircea_popescu: so wait, uh [19:45]
asciilifeform: they only recently began to claim to eat btc, recall [19:45]
mircea_popescu: basically they scammed you out of whatever, three months' work or w/e, exactly like facebook or whoever ? [19:45]
hanbot: wtf does "i'll try this out" even mean in the broad world these days aside from "i guess i'll see how x would like to fuck me over" [19:47]
* hanbot is livid, mostly at self for having used anything buttpay supportive in the first place. [19:48]
mircea_popescu: tsk. [19:48]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes can that vps thing be live already before everyone has to waste EVEN MORE TIME down the imperial drain already ? [19:48]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason they even need "ddos protection" is, for what it's work, RIGHT FUCKING HERE. [19:50]
mircea_popescu: very much a case of ye olde "i'll gladly spend thousands to fuck you up if you're not willing to take pennies to suck my cock". makes perfect sense, dunnit ? [19:51]
asciilifeform: i suspect stupidity (and re how long d00d's been in biz -- senility) as explanation. shitpay offered hook, nfsco -- bit [19:51]
mircea_popescu: the part where you leave customers unsupported is not anything to do with bitpay. [19:51]
asciilifeform: they don't cost ~1% of what similar item costs from other vendors because martians work for'em for free... [19:52]
asciilifeform: faq pretty clearly (last i read it, coupla yrs back) spelled out what they skimp on. [19:52]
hanbot: mircea_popescu> the part where you leave customers unsupported is not anything to do with bitpay. << right, that's fucking DMV-level villainy. [19:52]
mircea_popescu: it's 100% pantsuitism, very much the only half-working attempt to enact the whole http://trilema.com/2018/the-problem-with-christians/#selection-61.0-65.669 into the world. [19:53]
mircea_popescu: "your account was forgiven" [19:53]
asciilifeform: it's the 'uber' variant of pantsuitism. ~whole thing is robot. [19:53]
mircea_popescu: "it earnestly repented and... here we are" [19:54]
asciilifeform: btw hanbot looks like yer domain expired ?! was it regged through nfsco ? [19:56]
asciilifeform: because if so, their refusal to answer call to rereg it is iirc a violation of their imperial dns charter [19:57]
asciilifeform: you could probably 'make thousand problem' for'em cheaply. [19:57]
hanbot: it's not even the shitpay hook or the nonsupport in themselves, abhorrent as they are. it's their marriage, wtf is "maybe not reallybut" doing in a yes/no switch. [19:58]
hanbot: asciilifeform nah, it's bw drainage > "no funds in account". domain registered long ago somewhere else. [19:59]
asciilifeform: odd, i get a 'no resolve' [19:59]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "no resolve" sounds like a side effect of the DNS settings allowing NFS to do its thing not pointing at an NFS doing its thing as advertised [20:13]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/five-years-later-omidyars-snowden-trickle-catching-up-to-trilema-report-on-nsa-in-bitcoin/ << Qntra - Five Years Later Omidyar's Snowden Trickle Catching Up To Trilema Report On NSA In Bitcoin [21:28]
mircea_popescu: heh. [21:33]
BingoBoingo: Amazing how these things break [21:41]
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