Forum logs for 20 Oct 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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adlai	trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300681 got run over	[00:01]
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adlai	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2015#1302335 << took a while, didn't we :P	[00:03]
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*	adlai still hasn't figured out deterministic newline munging in multideed bundles	[00:04]
adlai	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303123 << not this thread again...	[00:06]
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trinque	adlai: yeah later in that thread you'll see me chattering about fixing it	[00:19]
trinque	my parser was ignorant of	[00:20]
trinque	vs	[00:20]
trinque	did that one never get resubmitted?	[00:20]
trinque	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0681V2X.txt	[00:20]
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adlai	now... two bundles, each with a double divideed. nice :P	[00:32]
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BingoBoingo	In other news... Apparently 200 pound girls abuse anorexia forums trying to lose weight? https://archive.is/Cu831	[00:57]
assbot	Please insult me hard. - The South Beach Diet - Forums and Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2XSHp )	[00:57]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: refresh my memory, how did you get into the subject	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	he's trying to lose weight.	[00:58]
BingoBoingo	A bit of that. A bit of fuck reddit censorship.	[00:59]
BingoBoingo	Also now that I know cool black people and cool Jooz, need socially acceptable utternmenschen and the Food Stamp supermorbidly obese are kinda it.	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	oh i thought that part was gendered not social. ie, "what is the 1 in the 1 to 10 scale for women" rather than for people in general.	[01:01]
asciilifeform	'If you cut me I don't bleed, I pour out AWESOMENESS!' << from BingoBoingo's link	[01:01]
BingoBoingo	!b 2	[01:01]
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BingoBoingo	oh i thought that part was gendered not social. ie, "what is the 1 in the 1 to 10 scale for women" rather than for people in general. << This is why 'Murica is failing. Not enough mundane nouns are gendered	[01:02]
asciilifeform	not entirely relatedly, there is apparently a broadway musical about alexander hamilton. (for non-u.s. folks, a contemporary of george washington, famously killed in a duel.) so the inevitable, sacramental question: when do we get an equally duel-romanticized play about galois ?	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	Shawn Corey Carter (born December 4, 1969),[2] known by his stage name Jay Z (formerly Jay-Z),[3][4][5] is an American rapper, record producer, and entrepreneur. He is one of the most financially successful hip hop artists and entrepreneurs in America. In 2014, Forbes estimated Jay Z's net worth at nearly $520 million.	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	awww. that's not so much, is it ?	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	He is one of the world's best-selling artists of all time, having sold more than 100 million records, while receiving 21 Grammy Awards for his musical work, and numerous additional nominations.	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	dude...	[01:04]
BingoBoingo	Most of it came from apple buying out his startup lottery ticker	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	the curse of aging is that the world seems to keep getting smaller. srsly, that's it ?	[01:04]
BingoBoingo	*ticket	[01:04]
BingoBoingo	;;google Beats by Dre Apple	[01:04]
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mircea_popescu	this is a different identical fake hood dood isn't it ?	[01:05]
BingoBoingo	Jay-Z is not dre, but everyone buys the same lottery tickets	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	aok	[01:05]
BingoBoingo	Jay-z sings better. Dre plays with synthesizers better. Otherwise...	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	http://38.media.tumblr.com/5418b9936517317724b0136f409618d4/tumblr_nt0e7c6lfh1t0j8ebo1_400.gif << in other news, posture is everything.	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	for women.	[01:05]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1hP1z0s )	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	alternative title, "videostudy in stress shear of the posterior fourchette"	[01:06]
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asciilifeform	http://icrwhale.org << from BingoBoingo's link earlier. mega-l0l.	[01:14]
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asciilifeform	click 'english', invokes built-in googletranslate thingie	[01:14]
asciilifeform	'What I came up with this investigation Whale.'	[01:14]
BingoBoingo	Nisshin Maru seriously best boat on the ocean.	[01:14]
asciilifeform	or hm, yet another identical button gives something like actual english.	[01:15]
asciilifeform	'Harassment of whale research vessels is illegal'	[01:15]
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mircea_popescu	what are they gonn a do, ask the us navy to shoot down the harasser ? :D	[01:17]
asciilifeform	http://icrwhale.org/gpandsea.html << apparently, take pictures. and lawsuits.	[01:18]
assbot	ICR : Harassment & terrorism ... ( http://bit.ly/1hP2Sw8 )	[01:18]
BingoBoingo	Japan also nearly has enough Navy to shoot harassers nao	[01:18]
*	mircea_popescu is finding a discussion of some 2009 "mass" (really, 4 people at a gym) shooter on tlp's blog quite informative.	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	"Imagine after tanning for a month and lifting weights, he met a girl at the gym who fell in love with him."	[01:19]
asciilifeform	sodini ?	[01:19]
BingoBoingo	^	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck ? WHAT would a woman fall in love with ? the guy is as vacuous as an ipad. he "does a good job" programming .net crap and tans.	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	that ?	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	yes him.	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/08/why_did_george_sodini_shoot_wo.html	[01:20]
assbot	The Last Psychiatrist: Why Did George Sodini Shoot Women? ... ( http://bit.ly/1hP326O )	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	how the fuyck is a woman supposed to fall in love with cubical fungus ?	[01:20]
asciilifeform	how with street fungus ?	[01:21]
asciilifeform	trading floor fungus ?	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	easy. incoherent.	[01:21]
asciilifeform	cockpit fungus ?	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	no see, im starting to understand a lot of things, or moreover : the tlp wash has put pieces in my head into a sense.	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	so : it's not narcissism that's the problem, not per se.	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	it goes deeper : coherence is the problem.	[01:22]
asciilifeform	'consistency is the hobgoblin of the small mind' thing ?	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	yes, deeply coherent people APPEAR to be narcissists, and then it's easy to mistake THAT as driving the whole show. but it is not. narcissism is merely a defense mechanism.	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	keeping the over-coherent thing from explosion.	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform even deeper than that. the guy is so smooth, so flat, there is no possibility for a woman to get caught in anything.	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	it's not subjective (hobgoblin small mind etc), it is outright objective. he's so smooth you can drop him in the ocean and pick him up dry.	[01:23]
BingoBoingo	http://dpaste.com/07V4P64 << Spoiler alert for the depth of a certain rabbit hole exploration hinted at here, because Ashley Madison dump is boring	[01:23]
asciilifeform	do we actually know the man ?	[01:23]
assbot	dpaste: 07V4P64 ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2YE75 )	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	which is EXACTLY what he describes.	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	we do not know the man.	[01:23]
asciilifeform	or only his seppuku note	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	no one ever knows the man.	[01:23]
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asciilifeform	so how do we know the smooth	[01:23]
BingoBoingo	so how do we know the smooth << When one spends too much time in MS .NET they become it	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform this is a legitimate if complex question. i'll approach it from very, very far away.	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	why does the classical hero have to be flawed ? why not superman-perfect ?	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	to explain the love interest, that's why.	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	it never, to my knowledge, EVER worked on the silver screen as such. but the idea, even if never passibly implemented, still is valid	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	a sort of narrative bitcoin if you will.	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	so, why does t williams' pollitt junior drink ?	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	he could as well not drink.	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	ah, but you see, he drinks to forget. forget what ?	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	his father was gay too.	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	but the woman loves him. why ?	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	ah, that crazed fag hag liz taylor. sure. nevertheless, the story works BECAUSE the kid's not coherent.	[01:27]
asciilifeform	fanfic aficionados have a term, 'mary sue', for character who appears flawless and inspires loathing thereby	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	priscilla lane snubs eddie bartlett in the roaring twenties, and this is perceived as a visceral crime by the audience. why ?	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	why ? because the insipid lawyer is smooth ; cagney is clearly the one she was meant for. and we have no difficulty understanding panama smith's fixation.	[01:29]
asciilifeform	but how is the fungus man 'smooth' ? as far as i can see, he is one gigantic wrinkle, like a von koch snowflake	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	of course she'll die with him, she's caught.	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform explain to me the topology of the wrinkle in 1-dimensional space with a quantified rule =1.	[01:29]
asciilifeform	1?!	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	(is this how you say it in english ? "function that measures distance", the geometric equivalent of the sorting function, rule)	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	it should be, after all there's ruler	[01:31]
asciilifeform	metric	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	ah	[01:31]
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mircea_popescu	see, let's go on a tangent.	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	tlp observes "what the fuck is with the kids today, they all wanna be black ?" "they don't wanna be black, thgey wanna be masculine".	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	this is correct, exactly.	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	why is black = masculine ? why, because black needn't wrinkle.	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	why does black not need wrinkle ? because so many blacks are in jail, black women can't afford to choose.	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	EXACTLY for the reason superman could be a ball. in 19fucking50.	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	you know what had just happened ?	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	"he's perfect in every way". sure he is, susie.	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	works in demographic imbalance. otherwise, you gotta make some sense, somewhere, somehow.	[01:35]
asciilifeform	ball?	[01:37]
mircea_popescu	like a bearing ball.	[01:38]
mircea_popescu	at which point, i'll definitively confuse the matter by going on the least expected tangent :	[01:40]
mircea_popescu	the churchly doctrine has always been that absent the possibility of sin, and the wilful rejection of sin, salvation is impossible.	[01:40]
mircea_popescu	the REASON they said this, and stuck to it, is the correct observation that absent a very certainl possibility you'll fucking kill her, from which you wilfully abstain, the woman's not even slightly interested.	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	(chiefly because you'll probably not give her children, which has its own knot of evolutionary logic behind it)	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	and now : how the fuck is superman going to provide the manifest possibility he's killing the woman ?	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	indirectly! http://trilema.com/2013/the-twu-luv-torture/#selection-105.0-105.36	[01:42]
assbot	The twu luv torture on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2Z6Cm )	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	"the evil guys" who are obviously and necessarily an affixion upon him, provide it!	[01:42]
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mircea_popescu	har har http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2116/144/1600/Lois_Lane-025-00.0.jpg	[01:45]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1W2ZaCd )	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	(and unrelatedly one for BingoBoingo : http://pm1.narvii.com/5843/39edac1d9bcba66ba6f117b134930b7c329986f9_hq.jpg )	[01:45]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1W2ZaSI )	[01:45]
BingoBoingo	lol	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	jesus these things are so badly drawn...	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	it's really hard to go through america's main cultural product and not come to the notion that the country was born with down syndrome.	[01:50]
BingoBoingo	It's a problem	[01:52]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.31889759 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin over $326 before November - http://bitbet.us/bet/1215/bitcoin-over-326-before-november/#b3	[01:54]
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mircea_popescu	i''ticker	[01:57]
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gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 264.62, Best ask: 264.69, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 264.62, 24 hour volume: 10628.81221829, 24 hour low: 262.35, 24 hour high: 266.99, 24 hour vwap: None	[01:57]
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mircea_popescu	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/09/are_there_really_so_many_peopl.html <<< win	[02:29]
assbot	The Last Psychiatrist: "Are there really so many people with such troubles in your country to make such medicine such an important matter?" ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRUZVe )	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	someone from romania wrote him.	[02:29]
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BingoBoingo	The concise explanation of why parents who aren't poor and even some who are don't let their kids play 'Murican football	[03:01]
BingoBoingo	Because why put your kids in the position to suffer likely murder to people doping with shit that works when... you can tell them no for at least a few years.	[03:05]
BingoBoingo	The point people are chemically engineering themselves routinely to be better at the sport in school is the point where the sport had went beyond what makes sense as a school sport.	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	from what i could gather, the sort of kid that plays football comes from the same pool of kids that "sing rap" or get shot in turf wars.	[03:10]
mircea_popescu	if you're gonna go, might as well go whatever way it happens	[03:10]
BingoBoingo	Of course.	[03:11]
BingoBoingo	It is the exact demographic now. The demographic that used to produce boxers like Ali now produces 300-400 pound sprinters	[03:11]
BingoBoingo	Just now the demographic's parents are either Denzel Washington in Training Day or Madea sitting on the school board	[03:13]
BingoBoingo	The thing is he has to consider getting on gear because the sport he chose inevitably means he will be smashing heads with people who did	[03:15]
BingoBoingo	"If you can you must"	[03:16]
ben_vulpes	> sings rap	[03:16]
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ben_vulpes	b-a can't distinguish the jigga man from dre, thestringpuller	[03:17]
ben_vulpes	whaddaya make of that	[03:17]
BingoBoingo	I know alf has an aversion to the American Football talk, but the sad thing is that was likely one of the saner people getting into the game	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	can you ?	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	and what is it, "recites" ? he does with the mouth.	[03:18]
BingoBoingo	I just gotta say Jay-Z's girl Beyonce better consider a calorie deficit before she ends up like Kim Karsashian who bloated up.	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	there's no saving the 30yo black woman. she'll balloon, tis the genes.	[03:19]
BingoBoingo	She can keep it in her ass. Older black Women manage that. That is good. Kim though was not black and just went full FUPA.	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	diff story there.	[03:22]
BingoBoingo	Yeah	[03:22]
mircea_popescu	This is how famous people die: they take stimulants to party all night, and sleep very little. Finally, on day 3 they're too wired to fall asleep naturally, so they take a few extra sedatives (because they feel so wired.) However, the full dose of the pills doesn't happen until after they fall asleep; the sedation is worsened even further by stimulant withdrawal; and, of course, the natural exhaustion that comes with	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	partying for three days and not sleeping.	[03:24]
BingoBoingo	Just if Jay-Z was doing really good he'd be able to cycle them out	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	aaaand again ballas is exactly correct	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	that's precisely how famous people die.	[03:24]
BingoBoingo	Like Elvis	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	i'd guess about half of them.	[03:24]
BingoBoingo	Though hints in his papers suggest he aspirated on the vomit too	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	"Mass murder is the violent expression of being a pussy. The people killed are almost never the people who actually hurt you-- they are the nameless collateral damage of your fear of confrontation. Every person who Sodini felt hurt him is still alive. Every person he shot was nothing but polite to him, if they had any contact at all. This is almost universally true about mass murderers. In other words, the people w	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	ho you think hurt you most got punished the least."	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	word eh.	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	the problem with this safe, sanitized, society-first view of individual action is that it deliberately avoids the problem of class.	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	what if you mass murder accountants ? irs accountants ? black women ? people working at the southern poverty law center ? congressmen ? etc.	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	but let's not talk about that.	[03:31]
BingoBoingo	Can't talk about that. "Ideation" in psych lingo.	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	anyway. tlp's idea about how to report the stuff in the media to prevent its repeating is entirely correct (and also exactly what china does, which he doesn't notice - tho he notices correctly that it's what the dod forced everyone to do for the wtc bombings)	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	the probolem with THAT is that it only works for as long as the press is firmly attached to the public mind, but the more it works the more tenouous it makes that attachment. so... notrly.	[03:42]
BingoBoingo	Kind why qntra works like BitBet as a truth finding mechanism, also time weighted	[03:44]
BingoBoingo	2nd article, canonical by nao http://qntra.net/2014/10/gaw-miners-revealed-as-the-jizz-moppers-supreme/	[03:46]
assbot	GAW Miners Revealed As The Jizz Moppers Supreme \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1VWjEwn )	[03:46]
BingoBoingo	Similarly Death sentence http://qntra.net/2014/10/altcoin-exchange-cryptsy-partners-with-vogogo-and-digital-btc/	[03:48]
assbot	Altcoin Exchange Cryptsy Partners With Vogogo And Digital BTC \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQpIdt )	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	lol all this shit that supposedly at some time existed.	[03:48]
BingoBoingo	Seriously	[03:49]
BingoBoingo	Then grew to this beaut by thestringpuller so soon http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/	[03:51]
assbot	The Hard Fork Missile Crisis \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQpTpb )	[03:52]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[04:13]
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jurov	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303159 << instead of all this shitgnomery they could allow administrator to exempt these sockets from nr_fileno limit	[07:54]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 02:00:34; BingoBoingo: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/rebound-relationship-with-pledge	[07:54]
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shinohai	http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/an-israeli-hummus-cafe-is-giving-50-per-cent-off-to-jews-and-arabs-who-eat-together--WyxvWQdJdl	[08:33]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KlSLpx )	[08:33]
shinohai	"An increase in violence was reported as Jews begam kidnapping Arabs just to obtain the discount."	[08:33]
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jurov	http://tpbit.blogspot.sk/2015/10/liquid-when-sidechains-say-fuck-it.html heh	[09:56]
assbot	ThePiachu's Bitcoin Blog: Liquid - when sidechains say "fuck it" ... ( http://bit.ly/1OG24bu )	[09:56]
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funkenstein_	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2015#1302797 <-- so who is the idiot here? the person saying what they were told to say on video, or the person watching it and drawing conclusions based on nothing?	[10:33]
assbot	Logged on 19-10-2015 20:37:15; mircea_popescu: commenter on trilema has this to say : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndshbH3qZ6Y	[10:33]
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funkenstein_	for more on this topic, go watch Remí Gaillard prank videos, and think for a while about who is really being pranked	[10:34]
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punkman	I don't think I'd buy gold coin off random guy on the street either	[10:35]
funkenstein_	"Americaner sind hüre dumm! Ich habe im Youtube gesehen."	[10:36]
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punkman	though, it is a fact that guy on the street does not know what an ounce of gold looks like or what it's worth	[10:36]
funkenstein_	likely true, though a video made by some people you don't know doesn't verify it	[10:37]
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funkenstein_	first they came for the derps. but I was not a derp, so I said nothing.	[10:44]
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funkenstein_	there must be something lost in translation. How is some random mentally broken corpsemuncher anything like a prof. wrestler, or a real wrestler, or a gangster, or a gangster rapper?	[10:47]
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funkenstein_	and related later, how many people do you know that paid for a recording of Jay Z? But oh, I saw 100million written down so, lets just believe that shall we?	[10:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00052835 = 21.6624 BTC [-]	[10:53]
funkenstein_	anyway "reasonable doubt" - "friend or foe" is worth a listen :)	[11:04]
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funkenstein_	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2015#1302745 <-- wai wut?	[11:26]
assbot	Logged on 19-10-2015 20:03:53; Xplosionist: I mean, I'm very glad we have people that do it. Most of whom are actually nice and do a good job. But, wow, I would never want to deal with as much crap as you have to put up with fore that job.	[11:26]
funkenstein_	;;ud ftp	[11:26]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FTP \| FTP. Fuck the police. Coined in early 1998 by a C.B. local. It is the only true definition of this word and all the othere can f*ck off. I'm sick of these pigs harassing ...	[11:26]
funkenstein_	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303288 <-- hanging out of context comparatives can mean anything you want and thus wind up meaning nothing at all	[11:38]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 04:33:24; mircea_popescu: why is black = masculine ? why, because black needn't wrinkle.	[11:38]
funkenstein_	i'm thinking of something bigger, can you guess what it is?	[11:39]
funkenstein_	it was a hydrogen atom	[11:39]
funkenstein_	another common example: "lesser animals"	[11:39]
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funkenstein_	if the speaker had any actual information to convey, they forgot to complete the sentence	[11:40]
funkenstein_	or something like "girls are better"	[11:40]
funkenstein_	unless the "at what" is specified, it's just a phrase used for effect	[11:41]
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funkenstein_	this concludes my driveby bitcoin-asseting, I'm off now to go cut bill-sized newspaper strips :)	[11:53]
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thestringpuller	;;later tell funkenstein_ I've bought a lot of Jay-Z albums. The Black Album on vinyl is sick. Jay-Z is good at moving albums tho...	[12:05]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[12:05]
lobbes	so cable company just called me; 'Because you're such a loyal customer, I'm going to give you this exclusive unadvertised offer! For MORE money per month, I can give you faster internet!"	[12:06]
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lobbes	Me: "No thanks"	[12:15]
lobbes	CableDude: "May I ask what's holding you back?"	[12:15]
lobbes	Me: "I don't want to spend more money"	[12:15]
lobbes	CableDude: "Sure I understand, but this IS an exclusive offer. So can I sign you up today?"	[12:15]
lobbes	Me: "No, bye"	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	lol	[12:20]
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mircea_popescu	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/09/kanye_west_and_the_video_music.html << reading this thing i come to the realisation that having a GREAT kids show on tv is the worst fucking thing you could ever do. the muppets was probably better than anything else that was on tv for three decades, and contrary to what everyone imagined, it DIDNT help kids.	[12:24]
assbot	The Last Psychiatrist: Kanye West And The Video Music Awards ... ( http://bit.ly/1GgbisA )	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	in fact, it might actually be a large part of why said kids are broken in the head.	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	but in any case... "The audience-- people, Twitter, performers, Leno, The View, the President-- are can't help but comment on the show. They don't understand that they are actually part of the show. They aren't getting paid, but neither were Statler and Waldorf. And they were the funniest part of it."	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	this is a problem.	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	jurov << instead of all this shitgnomery << eh, the problem with exceptions is that they have to be managed.	[12:27]
jurov	if the alternative is to add new syscall per exception...	[12:27]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell funkenstein_ what is your definition of "nothing" ? be the careful you wish to see in this world. for instance as an exercise : compare the "nothing" you falsely claimed with the "something" that was actually there, see if the conclusions ACTUALLY DRAWN by the people you read were in fact commensurate with the something that there was, IRRESPECTIVE of what your kneejerk [based on nothing] interpretation of	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	what they MIGHT HAVE said is.	[12:30]
gribble	Error: "based" is not a valid command.	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	oic.	[12:30]
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*	mircea_popescu reads tpbit thing, is unimpressed. oh you mean people wanna blather about nothing rather than do work because a) it's easier and b) they don't wanna do anything anyway, they just wanna appear so and so ? mmmkay.	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	first they came for the derps. but I was not a derp, so I said nothing. << no community with the derps. see http://trilema.com/2015/facebook-sends-traffic11eleven/#selection-421.189-425.0 ; see http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-i-ended-up-suing-phoenix-nap-llc-on-how-ira-r-cadwells-mom-stephanies-going-to-lose-her-chula-vista-home-on-how-marcus-bohn-is-going-to-catch-a-lot-of-shit-for-that-on-assorted-othe	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	/#selection-217.0-221.245 ; see http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/#selection-685.0-685.123 and the whole fucking corpus already. when "they" come for the derps i'll be fucking there shooting pregnantg mothers in the uterus and stepping on baby derp necks.	[12:38]
assbot	Facebook sends traffic!!11eleven on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NlQi31 )	[12:38]
assbot	On how I ended up suing Phoenix NAP, LLC ; on how Ira R. Cadwell's mom Stephanie's going to lose her Chula Vista home ; on how Marcus Bohn is going to catch a lot of shit for that ; on assorted other drama. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NlQkI6 )	[12:38]
assbot	On how the factored 4096 RSA keys story was handled, and what it means to you. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NlQkIc )	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	there is no community with the derps. a world without them is a better world, under ANY circumstances.	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	in fact, the reason prison is better than the web (no, it's not "the internet", fucking reddit facebook and washpo aren't "the internet") is preciely that they fuck up the derps in prison.	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303415 << at this point i firmly believe there's something lost ; in the reading. in other words, im vaguely persuaded you do not actually have the ability to read (yes, you can follow the letters, but it's not the same). so earnestly, in full view of this censure of your intellectual faculties, without any attempt to hide from it or to pretend an imaginary, unwarranted s	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	uperiority over it, go read the fucking thing again and answer this question yourself. HOW is it that they are exactly the same ?	[12:42]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 13:47:06; funkenstein_: there must be something lost in translation. How is some random mentally broken corpsemuncher anything like a prof. wrestler, or a real wrestler, or a gangster, or a gangster rapper?	[12:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52500 @ 0.00052832 = 27.7368 BTC [-]	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	But oh, I saw 100million written down so, lets just believe that shall we? << that's not even it. the tlp article has the story, and it's rather obvious : they ACCEPTED to be extras in HIS movie. that's what it is. rihanna, of course (of course ? madonna didn't do that for ritchie, not really ; angelina jolie didn't do that for brad pitt ; moreover nobody told them to get the fucking crazy out of their	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	heads and OF COURSE already, it's their guy which means he owns them), but that other chick what's her name, and oh really, "nobody's cavalcade is coming tarram tarram tarrarram tam tam" ? what the fuck is this shit, put the nigger back in the prison he squirmed out of an the white women back in the fucking ofcourse.	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	because otherwise, OF COURSE some random derp is gonna be the symbol, and in this sense "100 mn" is purely symbolic. it's not the number, and you are drastically naive to contest the actual number. the point is somewhere else.	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	"oh, but women don't wanna be extras in a man's movie just for being women". tough.	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	im sure alf doesn't wanna be an engineer either, he wants to be a hunter. what of it ?	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	the jobs available are the jobs available and you fucking like them.	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	"oh, but i'm gonna be the exception". sure you will baby. heck, maybe she actually will be. THE EXCEPTION. geddit ?	[12:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111100 @ 0.0005312 = 59.0163 BTC [+] {7}	[12:52]
mircea_popescu	or was it beyonce not rihanna ? anyway.	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303449 << this is true, yeah.	[12:57]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 15:27:14; jurov: if the alternative is to add new syscall per exception...	[12:57]
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mircea_popescu	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/suicide%20rates%20by%20age%20and%20race%202004.jpg << now that's an interesting graph.	[13:17]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Pxn8Ba )	[13:17]
punkman	"Google’s growing problem: 50% of people do zero searches per day on mobile"	[13:21]
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mircea_popescu	because why would they ? if they know the topic they don't need to search google, what the fuck is that you know, "i would like to see what the republican party says, i wonder if they have a website". on the other hand if you don't know it, why would you trust google. "i wonder if thye have a republican party in bali. o look, republicanpartyinbali.blogspot.com comes up first."	[13:22]
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deedbot-	[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Hey Edmonton Police Service, what part of private property don’t YOU understand? - http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/20/hey-edmonton-police-service-what-part-of-private-property-dont-you-understand/	[13:34]
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mircea_popescu	!up ascii_field	[13:39]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[13:39]
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ascii_field	http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/19/san-fran-middle-school-cancels-student-elections-because-too-many-white-people-elected	[13:39]
assbot	School Elections Thrown Out After Too Many Whites Elected \| The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1PxqYud )	[13:39]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303461 << only in su prison - in america, prison (at least the fed kind) is sorta like su псиxушка	[13:42]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 15:39:52; mircea_popescu: in fact, the reason prison is better than the web (no, it's not "the internet", fucking reddit facebook and washpo aren't "the internet") is preciely that they fuck up the derps in prison.	[13:42]
ascii_field	(live and die under microscope)	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	mebbe.	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	how many actual convicts do you know tho ?	[13:42]
ascii_field	directly? none. friend-of-friend - a few	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	this isn't worth much, is it ?	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	incidentally, it's not hard to meet convicts. there's a program you can sign up for, host one getting out of prison for a few months.	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	sort-of like uber for convicts. or was it airbnb ?	[13:45]
ascii_field	no. i do have a secret pasttime of reading just about anything written by prisoners, in all times and places, with emphasis on modern americans. but i cannot pretend to be an expert.	[13:45]
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ascii_field	'Van Haren went on to say that she is considering a variety of fixes to the problem, including appointing several new positions in order to ensure more minorities are represented without kicking out those who actually won the election.'	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	yeah but of interest here would have been the convicts that don't write.	[13:46]
ascii_field	'the spartan speaks with his sword.'	[13:47]
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mircea_popescu	i don't get this nonsense. who the fuck gave her the autority to overturn the election.	[13:47]
ascii_field	it's a toy election	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	you can't have a toy election anymore than you can have a toy pregnancy.	[13:48]
ascii_field	instituted by the school to begin with, as i understand	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	or a toy prayer. or a toy dela with the devil.	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	these things are.	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	tough. still not how it works.	[13:48]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: funnily enough they tried 'toy pregnancies' in american schools	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	im sure they did. i would say overal there's no stupid thing the us haven't tried	[13:48]
ascii_field	and at any rate this is a beautiful election. teaches the childrenz how ~actual~ usg works	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	in line with the "sane measure to be applied just as soon as all alternatives exhausted"	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	quitew.	[13:48]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303480 << iirc we did this..? google is for error messages, lines of code, quotes from published documents generically.	[13:51]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 16:22:05; mircea_popescu: because why would they ? if they know the topic they don't need to search google, what the fuck is that you know, "i would like to see what the republican party says, i wonder if they have a website". on the other hand if you don't know it, why would you trust google. "i wonder if thye have a republican party in bali. o look, republicanpartyinbali.blogspot.com comes up first."	[13:51]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field do you happen to have link to log where we discuss idiocy of "bayesian" approaches to stuff ?	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	and yes, we did this.	[13:52]
ascii_field	it came up on a few occasions iirc	[13:53]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-11-2014#927735 << the thread i recall	[13:55]
assbot	Logged on 18-11-2014 19:17:32; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the connection << organized abuse of statistical concepts for satanic purposes	[13:55]
mircea_popescu	ha! ty.	[13:55]
mircea_popescu	btw, you ever read that article by tlp about how "asking another is the best bias reducer" ?	[13:56]
ascii_field	prolly	[13:56]
ascii_field	at one point i swallowed the whole tlp	[13:56]
ascii_field	but most of it got gc'd	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	the experience he discusses (afaik this is amply documented) is the strange situation that if an idiot guesses, he's off by X, if he "tries" to think about it, ie, meditates on the answer and why it could be wrong he improves the guess (reducing he errror)	[13:57]
mircea_popescu	but if he simply asks another idiot and averages the two out, he reduces the error 3x	[13:58]
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ascii_field	this only works when there is a signal.	[13:58]
ascii_field	(the canonical experiment involves a jar full of coins or the like. but if you were to put the jar behind a door, then no signal. only noise.)	[13:59]
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mircea_popescu	right.	[14:04]
mircea_popescu	well, i got my link about 500x faster than if i searched for it. somehow.	[14:04]
ascii_field	i did make use of #b-a search	[14:07]
ascii_field	when such a thing exists for a subject, it is clearly the winner, yes	[14:07]
ascii_field	i dare say that 99% of my search itches are entirely scratched by grep on my own disks	[14:08]
ascii_field	the tricky bit is the remainder.	[14:08]
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mircea_popescu	problem is i didn't know what to search for.	[14:09]
ascii_field	then it isn't a search problem...!	[14:10]
mircea_popescu	quite.	[14:11]
ascii_field	'i need to compute the volume of hydrogen in this bottle' 'compute volume, take the pressure....' 'i've never seen the bottle!'	[14:11]
ascii_field	*mass of	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	it IS a search problem. "i want X". "can you put X in X' ?" "no but i can tell it to alf"	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	somehow working together it was 1 minute, i am confident it'd have been half a fucking hour of my life otherwise.	[14:12]
ascii_field	meatsearch.	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	aha	[14:12]
ascii_field	helps if your phriendz have good memory	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	something google'll never do worth a crap.	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	helps foremost if variety speak.	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	(note that the question wasn't "in" vs. but yet...)	[14:13]
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ascii_field	http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1002.pdf <<<>>> http://dpaste.com/0FPGSGH	[14:18]
assbot	dpaste: 0FPGSGH: got HW crypto? On the (in)security of a Self-Encrypting Drive series ... ( http://bit.ly/1jRRD7M )	[14:18]
ascii_field	(lolzy. built-in key generated at factory; other key is entered through a winblowz proggy!)	[14:20]
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mircea_popescu	heh	[14:23]
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deedbot-	[Trilema] Carnita... - http://trilema.com/2015/carnita/	[14:25]
ascii_field	and as if this were not enough,	[14:25]
ascii_field	'Comparing this plot to 10000 4-byte values retrieved from /dev/urandom ( Figure 6 ), gives us a strong	[14:25]
ascii_field	hint that the RNG of the JMS583S is not cryptographically safe, showing clear patterns in Figure 4.'	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha kk	[14:26]
ascii_field	see, i am at a loss here as to the logic.	[14:29]
ascii_field	it is one thing to subtly, secretly sabotage a thing.	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	there isn't a logic in that sense	[14:30]
ascii_field	it is another where it is encrusted with so many mines, of such variety, that you can hardly make out what the thing was (a bridge? a railroad ? what?)	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	this is how nature works	[14:31]
ascii_field	aha. the trees do not get together and decide 'there is room for three oaks'	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	quite.	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	or "it would make sense for the ivy to be over there"	[14:32]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: 'And it is because the real estate prices in Beijing etc have made it so that young women are unaffordable.' << what does this mean?	[14:33]
ascii_field	they are not shipped in from mars, no. so how is it that 'they are unaffordable' ?	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	which part ?	[14:33]
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ascii_field	how does it work? politburo hoards all the womenz ?	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	ah. suppose you have 10k soviet fuckholes, and 11k dudes want one. 10k dudes pay 10k per fuckhole each, and spend the time alternatively fucking the hole and laughing at the 1k.	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	suppose they're 10k american fuckholes. 11k dudes want one, on which basis 100k more dudes are made to think they want one	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	3k people pay 1.5mn each per fuckhole, have no time to do anything but run arround trying to service the 2.8mn they owe	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	207k people sit around depressed because no fuckhole.	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	see ?	[14:36]
ascii_field	to whom do they pay ?	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	to ibm.	[14:36]
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mircea_popescu	what "pay" ? money doesn't enter into this.	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	money is not a THING	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	they... just... pay.	[14:36]
ascii_field	so this is more like the 'pay' you pay in auschwitz, work until you drop with the hope that you get moved down, and not up, in the chimney queue ?	[14:37]
ascii_field	and the gurlz play the equivalent of the role of chocolate bars ?	[14:37]
mircea_popescu	i guess so	[14:37]
ascii_field	(or cigs)	[14:38]
mircea_popescu	notably, the 10k fuckholes aren't "more valuable" in either scenario. they ARE however LESS UTILIZED in the second.	[14:38]
mircea_popescu	so in the only sane paradigm, the latter is actually more impoverished.	[14:38]
mircea_popescu	nevertheless, in the "value is what people want" paradigm, the former is incredibly poor.	[14:39]
ascii_field	thing is, a situation like this is impossible without barbed wire & guards (in one form or another)	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	not so.	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	people are stupid for free.	[14:39]
ascii_field	who prevents the utilization ?	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	barbed wire and guns are more of a sign that things are improving than anything.	[14:39]
ascii_field	if the resource is not actually scarce	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	be worried when no barbed wire and guns, like the us 60s.	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	stupidity.	[14:39]
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mircea_popescu	why aren't you all the things you aren't doing, like putting your cock in the mouth of girl sitting across the table ?	[14:40]
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mircea_popescu	didn't see any barbed wire voalettes	[14:40]
ascii_field	barbed wire largely works on the expectation.	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	no. barbed wire does nto work, period.	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	it is there to JUSTIFY one's own lassitude, even as that becomes socially inacceptable.	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	you understand this ? it doesn't DO anything. it's there so the fucktards can BLAME IT for who they are.	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	like the people who "stayed in statal employment" cca 1992.	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	who exactly kept them there ? why not go into business ? work for businessmen ?	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	"best be safe". sure. "barbed wire" aha.	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	barbed wire, like "nuclear weapons" scl is a TOTEM.	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	infantry cuts through it faster than infantry can deploy it, think about that.	[14:42]
ascii_field	this works because infantry is a machine (yes) not man. i.e. soldier hasn't the choice of 'i don't feel like it'	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	more importantly - soldier doesn't havfe the choice of "i'm too good for this"	[14:43]
ascii_field	so he is really still boxed in by 'barbed wire' - just not the wire you see in front of him	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	the notion of freedom you carry most closely approximates death.	[14:43]
ascii_field	soldier is in no sense the example of 'man impervious to wire'	[14:43]
ascii_field	if he were, he would shoot own officer & go pirating.	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	but pirating is no different.	[14:43]
thestringpuller	I was under the impression a soldier is nothing more than a political tool.	[14:44]
thestringpuller	That is, a soldier's only purpose is to "complete the mission".	[14:44]
mircea_popescu	anyway, it is strictly possible soldier actually believes in the war and his side. there's nothing wrong with this.	[14:45]
ascii_field	obligatory...	[14:46]
ascii_field	'One of the essential experiences of war is never being able to escape from disgusting smells of human origin. Latrines are an overworked subject in war literature, and I would not mention them if it were not that the latrine in our barracks did its necessary bit towards puncturing my own illusions about the Spanish civil war. The Latin type of latrine, at which you have to squat, is bad enough at its best, but these were	[14:46]
ascii_field	made of some kind of polished stone so slippery that it was all you could do to keep on your feet. In addition they were always blocked. Now I have plenty of other disgusting things in my memory, but I believe it was these latrines that first brought home to me the thought, so often to recur: ‘Here we are, soldiers of a revolutionary army, defending Democracy against Fascism, fighting a war which is about something, an	[14:46]
ascii_field	d the detail of our lives is just as sordid and degrading as it could be in prison, let alone in a bourgeois army.’ Many other things reinforced this impression later; for instance, the boredom and animal hunger of trench life, the squalid intrigues over scraps of food, the mean, nagging quarrels which people exhausted by lack of sleep indulge in.'	[14:46]
ascii_field	(mr o)	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	mr o never was a soldier,	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	and i would suspect he was never intimate with a woman, either.	[14:47]
ascii_field	in most people's understanding of the profession - he was a soldier.	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	and had sex, sure.	[14:47]
ascii_field	so now 'that wasn't soldiering' and 'that wasn't sex' ?	[14:47]
ascii_field	i thought it was ~my~ job to mystificate like this!	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	soldiering it was, but his protestations make it obvious he didn't reallyt have any business there.	[14:48]
ascii_field	this was true of perhaps all but a handful of folks on eastern front	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	see, all the other dudes are there for whatever reasons - he's there because of who he wants to be. "the sort of guy who fights in the civil war - if only the latrines weren't barbed wired"	[14:48]
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ascii_field	a good number of people were there for identical reason as mr o	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	and he wants a girl - if only the women would understand how great a sense of humor he has.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	sense of humor, you know ? there's a reason all the frustrated dudes on forums picked this from a sea of random crap.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	sense of humor. aka faux hipster irony. in other words, a facility with the faux.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	i wonder why women don't dig in!	[14:50]
ascii_field	^ now this never made any sense to me	[14:50]
ascii_field	i suspect there is a 'cargo cult' aspect - they can see other people laugh, and say 'i could also laugh!'	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	and sure, a bunch of boys get married because who they want to be.	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	it is generally hoped that in this they also BECOME	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	mr o didn't, best i can tell.	[14:50]
ascii_field	become ?	[14:51]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[14:51]
ascii_field	this is why we disagree on 'them fools think they're too good'	[14:51]
ascii_field	mr o did not think he were 'too good.' he tried to become a limonov. and failed.	[14:51]
ascii_field	ergo honesty is better - if you are constitutionally unsuited to being limonov, be someone else	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	the irony here, true, unadorned irony of the greek sort, is that the champion of the faux, out of a misguided desire for authenticity metastasized out of his own problems with the faux and handles thereof, stuck to the infantile version instead of individuating into the adult.	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	the big secret being that juveniles have no soul. they're not individuals, they're the zerg creep.	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	they individuate out of this, maybe, into adulthood. ironically, adults are apparently a lot more similar than the adolsecents are.	[14:53]
ascii_field	(although limonov is prolly not the metric here, as he was almost entirely the same animal as orwell - complete with 'ritual' visit to a war, even got to fire a rifle, yes! cummed in his pants)	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	this could, apparently, be misinterpreted as a reduction of individuality. but it'd take a teen to make the mistake.	[14:53]
ascii_field	how is this a mistake?	[14:54]
ascii_field	when ben franklin wrote that 'most people die at 25 but aren't buried till 75' he was describing a very real thing.	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	hehehe. mno.	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	lemme see if you ever had this experience. was it ever the case that you enjoyed a product, only to be confronted with some idiot enjoying the same product for the "wrong reasons" ?	[14:55]
ascii_field	like microscope-hammer ?	[14:56]
ascii_field	e.g., bitcoin ?	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	suppose you like cohiba because it tastes good, and you're at a party and this chick you used to fuck DELIBERATELY introduces her current derp, who goes on a rant about how he loves cohiba and did you see that commercial ? maks him feel like who he really is!11	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	and there she is, the cat, with her smile that deserves a caning just for that. she knows what she's doing, quite exactly. so what now ?	[14:57]
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ascii_field	my garbage collector kicks in long before i can get to this point.	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	mine doesn't.	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	so : we can sit right here and smoke the same cigar for different reasons altogether.	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	SEEMINGLY a reduction in individuality.	[14:58]
ascii_field	how ?	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	in point of fact, individuality is not a matter of appearance.	[14:58]
ascii_field	there are not so many cigars	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	because to the adolescent it seems like the same thing.	[14:58]
ascii_field	everybody is stuck smoking it for different reasons	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	life, also.	[14:58]
ascii_field	everyone pushes same buttons, but for different reasons...	[14:59]
ascii_field	this seems blindingly obvious	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	quite. and how much of one's passion with rare keyboards is driven by a fear of this issue ?	[14:59]
ascii_field	personally - zero	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	but you see how this'd work.	[14:59]
ascii_field	to the point that just about everyone i know in meatspace bought what i had...	[14:59]
ascii_field	and you'd say i am supposed to react to that ..?	[15:00]
mircea_popescu	so imo, franklin was speaking of a different thing.	[15:00]
mircea_popescu	how is this a mistake? << see there. i don't say such.	[15:00]
ascii_field	(i am told there is actually a subculture of 'hipster keyboards' but they are not collecting 1980s workhorses but actual oddity art objects, of mahogany, ...)	[15:00]
mircea_popescu	what franklin spoke of was a different time. a time when adulthood was unavoidable, and as such lazy people simply succumbed to the hollow form. "hey, if no kid can tell me from any other adult, why bother."	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	"i just work here."	[15:01]
ascii_field	and now it is avoidable ?	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	quite avoidable.	[15:01]
ascii_field	how?	[15:02]
ascii_field	for a rockefeller kid, perhaps	[15:02]
ascii_field	but for plebe?	[15:02]
ascii_field	he 'grows up', which means he no longer wakes up and thinks 'what shall i do to amuse myself' but 'off to the salt mine' and when comes home 'what do i eat and have i enough spare change?' and then tired, and then again a day of living death	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	just like that, go to school, take a job that's "not the real you", on it goes.	[15:03]
ascii_field	is auschwitz man 'the real him' ?	[15:03]
ascii_field	or is there something under the stripes	[15:03]
ascii_field	that might be let out ?	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	adolescence is not childhood. the child wakes up with what SEEMS "what shall i do to amuse himself", except to him it';s a dealdy grind.	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	but the adolescent wakes up with "i wonder what insane demands will my chosen identity put on me THIS TIME"	[15:04]
ascii_field	i never did or saw either	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	there's good reason adolescents hate waking up	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	obviously everyone at auschwitz thought it temporary.	[15:05]
ascii_field	one way or another - it was..	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[15:05]
ascii_field	the folks who came to think that 'this is the real me now' threw themselves on the wire	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	ironically, auschwitz has a LOT more in common with the "boost self esteem" version of us schools than with actual education.	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	it was in fact exactly the same : an exercise in esteem engineering.	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	as a result, no amount of pain suffering or violence could have matured the individual. on the contrary - it drove infantilization.	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile you don't even need much caning to get a willing slave into a sane head space.	[15:07]
mircea_popescu	caning. what's that even ? barely noticeable biologically.	[15:07]
ascii_field	because you cheated by using a willing slave to begin with	[15:07]
mircea_popescu	always cheat.	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	if your solution does not include cheating what even makes you think it's a solution at all!	[15:08]
shinohai	Your enemy sure as hell cheats.	[15:08]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: recall our conversation re: wunderwaffen ?	[15:08]
ascii_field	same idea.	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	how so ?	[15:08]
ascii_field	'a proper solution includes cheating'	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	ah, aha.	[15:09]
ascii_field	(which is to say, massively disproportionate roi)	[15:09]
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ascii_field	'Another, even better, way that can be executed pre-authentication was found later. In fact, when looking deeper into the firmware code we noticed every time the status VSC is called, the raw RNG bytes are masked with a static value. This static 4-byte value, 0x271828af, is xored with the 4-byte RNG output. Further this value is xored with the last 4-byte SY N value before sending the value to the host computer. Using the	[15:16]
ascii_field	Algorithm 4, we can unmask the 4-byte values returned in a status VSC response to reveal ”raw” RNG bytes from the hardware side. Since this is done pre-authentication, any attacker can generate this from any locked drive.'	[15:16]
ascii_field	^ for fuxxsake	[15:17]
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mircea_popescu	heh	[15:32]
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gabrielradio	http://pastebin.com/m74CNzNv	[15:35]
assbot	What interests me in a project - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2Ky04 )	[15:35]
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gabrielradio	one of the best articles of trilema imho	[15:39]
mircea_popescu	embrayage eh ?	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	from embray. works.	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	" what a hottie of a secretary " << no. pointedly not. what a miracleworker they employ in the front desk.	[15:42]
gabrielradio	oh, i thought it was "buna" in the other sense	[15:43]
ascii_field	'how many connections and interfaces they have for every communication device I would want to use' << l0l, srsly!!? 'come to us, we have thicknet and token ring!!'	[15:44]
ascii_field	did this also get munged in translation?	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	not through any fault of his. it's what the text says, on account of it being written in romanian for romanians.	[15:46]
mircea_popescu	ie, lots of businesses still use paper archival exclusively.	[15:46]
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mircea_popescu	also lots of proprietary gunk. "stop sending docx, it is NOT USEFUL"	[15:47]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: rumour has it there are still usg facilities that have problems with the newfangled electric things. fbi headquarters (the brutalist monster death start in washington) has, i'm told, ethernet snakes on the floor	[15:48]
ascii_field	*death star	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	so do i.	[15:48]
ascii_field	i mean, ones hundreds of metres long	[15:48]
ascii_field	the sort that one normally stuffs behind drywall	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	i don't need any cable where i can't see it nor anything but cable tyvm.	[15:49]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu's flat must be a very merry place	[15:49]
ascii_field	no raised floor even ?	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	no raised floor.	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	i guess i gotta show this now	[15:50]
thestringpuller	how do the slave girls not trip over the wires?	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	jumprope in heels.	[15:50]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: if i had to guess - he nails'em to the wall, as i do	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[15:51]
ascii_field	to the ceiling ?	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	ok ima take some pics a sec	[15:52]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field http://trilema.com/2015/a-tale-of-two-breakfasts-or-the-whores-broth/	[16:03]
mircea_popescu	see ?	[16:03]
assbot	A Tale of Two Breakfasts, or, The Whore's Broth on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2MtlA )	[16:03]
ascii_field	what's this	[16:04]
mircea_popescu	my floor.	[16:06]
mircea_popescu	no cables. see ?	[16:06]
ascii_field	aha.	[16:06]
ascii_field	l0l cisco box. mircea_popescu took it off a dead nazi, or what.	[16:06]
mircea_popescu	:D	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	i had the fucking box packed specially for a monitor lifter.	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	exactly the right height. all the useful engineering cisco ever did.	[16:08]
ascii_field	l0lz	[16:08]
ascii_field	looks not so different from my desk, except that i can't bring myself to eat there	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	oh, i didn;t eat it there. i was just mixing it as we had the discussion.	[16:10]
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ascii_field	didn't expect to see a spaniard kbd	[16:12]
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mircea_popescu	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/09/jay-z_is_a_genius.html << this shit is beautiful.	[16:18]
assbot	The Last Psychiatrist: Jay-Z Is A Genius ... ( http://bit.ly/1PxOSpg )	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	He's dressing himself in red lines, tempting you to see if they're real or not.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	If you are tempted to look more deeply (if you're watching it, it's for you)-- like the smitten girl does-- you'd see this appearance first, then through it: "if you got to know him, you'd see he's really a...!" And then you'd pat yourself on the back for having intellectual courage to not judge by appearances! But you've been fooled by the commercial art illusion, thinking that because you saw through the illusion, th	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	erefore the deeper level must be authentic.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	Those who don't come to it from exactly the right perspective are infuriated, "this guy is a douchebag!" You think you see something more real than she does, but you aren't supposed to see more deeply-- she is. You are supposed to be infuriated-- that's why she looks more deeply. She doesn't like him, she likes what liking him says about her. She likes what your hating him says about her.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	"How the hell come she can't see through this poser?" She does see through it, you don't. She sees something fake, then something "real" underneath, and falls for him; you see something fake, stop there, and hate him.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	That's exactly what he wanted, both times.	[16:18]
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mircea_popescu	the meaning of "red lines" to be found in the article previous to the quote.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	but he's EXACTLY right.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	he could have a ball ravishing teenagers. in fact, possibly the blog hiatus is the direct result of his having figured this out	[16:19]
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deedbot-	[Trilema] A Tale of Two Breakfasts, or, The Whore's Broth - http://trilema.com/2015/a-tale-of-two-breakfasts-or-the-whores-broth/	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	!up funkenstein_	[16:20]
-assbot-	You voiced funkenstein_ for 30 minutes.	[16:20]
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funkenstein_	thanks :)	[16:20]
funkenstein_	aha i was not missing translation, just ignorant	[16:21]
funkenstein_	big lurch was not an allegory, but a real rapper.. thanks ;)	[16:21]
mircea_popescu	;)	[16:21]
funkenstein_	as to the youtube vid stuff, who knows maybe Mark Dice has some worthwhile stuff	[16:22]
funkenstein_	seems like more of an Alex Jones than an Remé Gaillard	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	who even knows. my lack of time/patience for teh youtube is certainly to my detriment	[16:23]
funkenstein_	the guy wrote a "resistance manifesto" a decade or so ago	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	alex jones ?	[16:25]
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ascii_field	!s crank bait	[16:25]
assbot	29 results for 'crank bait' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=crank+bait	[16:25]
funkenstein_	Mark Dice	[16:26]
funkenstein_	crank bait seems likely :)	[16:26]
funkenstein_	a quick scan shows a lot of references to Christianity and Satan	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	is the guy notable other than "forced youtube to undo a ban" ?	[16:28]
funkenstein_	i had never heard of him but hey, I also hadn't heard of Big Lurch	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	nobody heard of big lurch, kinda the point.	[16:28]
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ascii_field	'The MD is always 16 bytes here because it's always MD5.'	[16:42]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: guess from where.	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	hw "crypto" ?	[16:42]
ascii_field	gpg 1.4.10.	[16:43]
ascii_field	g10/seskey.c	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	agagaga wut	[16:43]
ascii_field	have phun.	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	oh the session keys. myeah.	[16:43]
ascii_field	the pkcs1, yes.	[16:43]
ascii_field	used for all ops.	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	not depended on tho. but yes.	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x209.html << for extra lulz.	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	"concepts".	[16:44]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1jS4uqq )	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	"In PGP and GnuPG, the public-key cipher is probably the weaker of the pair. Fortunately, however, if an attacker could decrypt a session key it would only be useful for reading the one message encrypted with that session key. The attacker would have to start over and decrypt another session key in order to read any other message."	[16:44]
ascii_field	interestingly, rfc3447 (section a.2.4) allows other hashes, up to sha512	[16:46]
ascii_field	but gpg went with md5.	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	coincidentally, im sure.	[16:46]
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lobbes	!up ascii_field	[16:57]
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mircea_popescu	"But I want to be a ladies man like Don Draper. Back then it was easier, because affairs were more acceptable."	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	No they weren't. Leaving aside morality, cheating on your wife means that you haven't fully connected to her, or have lost some of that connection. You don't have to be Don Draper to pull that off. "Well, I want to be as suave as he is, I want to pick up girls like he can." It's the same disconnectedness. You could do it, too, then you'll lose the ability to be deeply connected to someone. You can't do both sim	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	ultaneously.	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	ahgagaga.	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	and why not ? "because it wouldn't be fair to the working man" ?	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	"we're all equal and equally the same and thus therefore clearly - either the H binds to another H or to the end of a C or to something wait, C doesn't exist. EVERYONE HAS ONE VALENCE AND THE WORLD IS MADE OF HYDROGEN"	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	sure gramps. early history called, they need you back there three seconds after the big bang.	[17:03]
deedbot-	[Trilema] Here's what you don't know or understand about Facebook : everything. - http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/	[17:06]
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punkman	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IUl7n7PaaY	[18:05]
assbot	JJ DOOM-Banished (Beck Remix) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1M69BAg )	[18:05]
punkman	http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/ << hah	[18:07]
assbot	Here's what you don't know or understand about Facebook : everything. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1M69PXV )	[18:07]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303835 << what are we looking at, in that pic ?	[18:33]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 20:05:52; deedbot-: [Trilema] Here's what you don't know or understand about Facebook : everything. - http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	the other b-a	[18:34]
ascii_field	don't recall any dark-skinned folk in that b-a	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	or, if you prefer, a transcript of the chicken coop session on "things and the world"	[18:35]
ascii_field	(except for a few airplane pilots)	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	nono. the other forum, where stupid people talk.	[18:35]
ascii_field	Ah	[18:35]
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mircea_popescu	it's not even a written medium, not really.	[18:36]
ascii_field	live from the sewercamz?	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	except nobody calls them that. live from SOCIAL MEDIA.	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	the real one.	[18:36]
ascii_field	incidentally you can get very spiffy endoscope, 10 or more metres cable, for 20 or so usd	[18:36]
ascii_field	put in sewer.	[18:36]
ascii_field	anywhere.	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	bring surveillance state to rats, too ?	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	problem is rats are a lot smarter than their human counterparts. they're immune.	[18:37]
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ascii_field	immune?	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	yes. you can surveillance them until you fall over, they're gonna do whatever they did before.	[18:39]
ascii_field	ah	[18:39]
ascii_field	in that sense - yes.	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	you can run a bunch of tv specials about "ratcism", they're still gonna do exactly what they did before	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	etc.	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	0 feedback, which puts them WAY ahead of what your AVERAGE human being achieves.	[18:39]
deedbot-	[Qntra] Former GAW Supporters Promote Perpetual Energy Scam - http://qntra.net/2015/10/former-gaw-supporters-promote-perpetual-energy-scam/	[18:41]
ascii_field	l0l!!!	[18:41]
ascii_field	steorn!	[18:41]
ascii_field	still exists!	[18:41]
ascii_field	that's gotta be some kind of longevity record..	[18:41]
BingoBoingo	Seriously	[18:42]
ascii_field	it isn't in any sense 'new' either	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	you see the irony of PERPETUAL energy scam ?	[18:42]
BingoBoingo	it isn't in any sense 'new' either << New is failed Altcoin scammers resorting to it	[18:43]
ascii_field	BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, other aficionados: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-XL1201-LISP-MACHINE-/221915599560	[18:45]
assbot	RARE Vintage Computer Symbolics XL1201 Lisp Machine \| eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1M5xwJO )	[18:45]
ascii_field	^ this is the box amex used to keep entire dc of	[18:45]
ascii_field	(fraud detector heuristic)	[18:45]
BingoBoingo	Very cool	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	"In keeping with this development, sometime in the future cord bloods will be taken routinely from birth and used to delineate the individual's DNA so that genetic information will be readily available under emergency conditions to assure proper assessment of violent people. Hence, a patient presenting with an episode of violence and a history to support that will have their DNA contrasted with norms to determine if th	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	ey have a predisposition to aggression and violence..."	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	this from a study on shit, that doesn't even halfway hold up to any sort of scrutiny : http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/more_on_amygdala_anxiety_and_m.html	[18:47]
assbot	The Last Psychiatrist: More On Amygdala, Anxiety, and MRIs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Go8xVD )	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	but as he points out, "we've agreed, it's just what's done".	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	the "humanist" war on humanity continues.	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile at sanity ranch : punch an enlightened douchebag today. the fact Maya Angelou, diane keaton, Nancy Reagan et all haven't died with a cock shaped icepick through their eyes is bad enough.	[18:49]
ascii_field	their eternal fantasy is, unsurprisingly, 100% yield of homo redditicus ~at birth~.	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	the eternal fantasy is, "omnivore basically means herbivore, rite ?"	[18:50]
ascii_field	aha.	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	kinda why it's so important to rape and kill them.	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	rape, for the wails, kill, for the evolutionary considerations.	[18:51]
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ascii_field	to borrow from old west, 'ain't room enough in town for the both of'em' - the humanist and humanity, that is.	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	in point of fact, there's no room in attention for the thing and its copy, which is why isms are for the stupid and the poor.	[18:55]
shinohai	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303871 <<< BadBitcoin "threatened" to ruin me on twitter for pointing out their support for GAW.	[18:55]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 21:40:39; deedbot-: [Qntra] Former GAW Supporters Promote Perpetual Energy Scam - http://qntra.net/2015/10/former-gaw-supporters-promote-perpetual-energy-scam/	[18:55]
shinohai	It resulted in a block. I'm scared.	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	what's that supposed to mean shinohai ?	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	lolk/	[18:56]
shinohai	I dunno, I tweeted something some time ago about them being no better than scammers for their support of GAW, they threatened to have me removed from twitter, etc.	[18:58]
mircea_popescu	no but i mean, "ruin you on twitter".	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	whassat ? por favor deje su "amen".	[18:59]
shinohai	I'm at a loss on that one too. Not like I can't just make another friggin account, or that I even care what they think, etc.	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	oh right right, i guess im ruined in fetlife (bdsm ?) because they banned some random people just in case we were connected. lolk.	[18:59]
shinohai	De verdad no se, son imbeciles.	[18:59]
thestringpuller	When did facebook /wind 17	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	aaand ethereum is back to doing it's 10% a day loss dance. 0.00166 now	[19:01]
thestringpuller	>:(	[19:01]
ascii_field	http://i.imgur.com/uHx2JS2.gifv	[19:02]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1M5BIcx )	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	idiot. somebody really does not understand flow huh ?	[19:03]
ascii_field	aha.	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	what did he THINK was going to happen ?	[19:04]
ascii_field	think?	[19:04]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[19:04]
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mircea_popescu	"oh, im just going to drive this plow against the fluid front, creating a wave off center and all will be well because..."	[19:04]
ascii_field	thinkin's for them eggheads. the spartan - speaks with his truck!	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	ahok.	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	this spartan drunk with his truck.	[19:05]
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jurov	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg	[19:06]
assbot	Eagles - Get Over It (With Lyrics) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GoazFh )	[19:06]
jurov	^ i can nominate it to b-a anthem	[19:07]
ascii_field	i thought we already had, horst wessel	[19:07]
ascii_field	or am i confusing with pete_dushenski's eagle.	[19:08]
jurov	eh, pete's trying to paint us fourth reich or whatevs	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	mostly unrelated, http://38.media.tumblr.com/ab8bf534fd82e83da51ab0afbaf2b078/tumblr_nd3ggsc8Rq1tlw46uo1_500.gif	[19:09]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GoaQIw )	[19:09]
ascii_field	l0l, so fond of back door!	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	im trying to cater to both heterosexual and homosexual prurient interest.	[19:11]
ascii_field	'we'll make trucks over five tonnes switch sides first!'	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	:D	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	but it is seriously teh traditional panacea for female/passive element of youthful complexion with midrif sores.	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	"get over it".	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	i suspect it's where the thing got started.	[19:12]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.97990000 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b47	[19:13]
jurov	mircea_popescu: sorry to disappoint you, male model isn't more fully visible	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	huh ?	[19:15]
jurov	maybe it's just me but i don't like porn zooming all in to genitalia and spending minutes there, especially in this time of huge HD screens	[19:16]
jurov	and the pic is halfway there	[19:17]
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mircea_popescu	omaigawd you watch pr0n like a girl. what do you want next, fucking scents ? feelings ? CONTEXT ???	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	the hd is there so you can see what a good job the bikini wax salon did on her perineal raphe.	[19:18]
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mircea_popescu	(idle thought : if internet porn "objectifies women" / "contains experts", where's all the articles expertly discussing the relative value of a whorl on said raphe ? what do you think, do women with twin hairline do better in bed than the normal (single line) ?	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	where's the whole whorl - and - sexuality discussion anyway!	[19:21]
ascii_field	in the same shangri-la as the little vs big-endian debates.	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	no. those actually happened.	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	this did not.	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	(but, to keep things sophisticated - the raphe is more visible in males than in females ; also males lack a penis bone, much like the horse lacks a clavicle. it has been suggested that THIS is what the adam rib story is all about - god took man's penis bone and left a cvasi-scar.)	[19:23]
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mircea_popescu	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/the_neurobiology_of_wisdom.html << this shit's epic. "Note that they dropped the "Saint." Meanwhile, there's no problem referring, a few sentences later, to Gandhi as "Mahatma." That's okay, because no educated person actually thinks Gandhi is a saint, but there are still plenty of numbskulls who need to be reminded that Aquinas isn't."	[19:33]
assbot	The Last Psychiatrist: The Neurobiology of Wisdom ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmE0qs )	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	the trully horrid Meeks and Jeste "study" on "wisdom" and that fucktard Henry Nasrallah's repackaging of the same are splendid anecdotal points to drive this entire "the difference between a libertard and a religious bigot is that the religious bigot is actually anachronistic, and in this sense MORE CULTURALLY ADVANCED."	[19:34]
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mircea_popescu	that's right : voting obama is NOT more advanced than being a redneck. it is LESS so.	[19:35]
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deedbot-	[Qntra] Illinois and Pennsylvania Credit Ratings Lowered - http://qntra.net/2015/10/illinois-and-pennsylvania-credit-ratings-lowered/	[20:01]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 3.59950000 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b48	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	https://bitbet.us/ << from which we find that the twinklederps are about half as interesting as nascarface derp.	[20:03]
assbot	BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1W34G2i )	[20:03]
BingoBoingo	Seriously	[20:05]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303087 << elizabeth banks is painful to watch. obnoxious as all hell, insufficiently sexy, and now getting long in the tooth.	[20:07]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 00:11:51; mircea_popescu: Zack & Miri Make a Porno	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	verily.	[20:08]
pete_dushenski	oh well, good thing bellucci is still makes movies i guess	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	just how much flan can a person eat!	[20:09]
pete_dushenski	haven't seen a movie in theatres in a few months, thinking the new bond flick will break the seal.	[20:10]
BingoBoingo	I'm surprised how little marketing it has gotten	[20:12]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303146 << who wants to play alaric ?	[20:13]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 01:07:48; mircea_popescu: so so very 400 ad.	[20:13]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo how'd you know ? i sure wouldn't. hardly ever see advertising tbh	[20:13]
pete_dushenski	blocked in browser, none in here, don't pass many billboards, don't hardly watch tv	[20:14]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: That I guess could also be it.	[20:14]
BingoBoingo	Back in 2012 I was exposed to far more of that shit.	[20:14]
pete_dushenski	for all i know pepsi is giving away free blowjobs with every 12-pack	[20:14]
pete_dushenski	or justin trudeau is buying every canadian a phree double-double	[20:15]
pete_dushenski	with red food colouring !	[20:15]
pete_dushenski	with their own money !	[20:15]
pete_dushenski	but for phree !	[20:15]
pete_dushenski	so, yea, canada has a new pm	[20:16]
pete_dushenski	first dynasty, young handsome charmer, because why not put the best of bush and obama into a blender and ship the product up north ?	[20:16]
pete_dushenski	like romanian kids wanted to work for 'international firm', canadians want politicians like usistan has.	[20:17]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303570 << mega-thread here.	[20:18]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 17:33:01; ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'And it is because the real estate prices in Beijing etc have made it so that young women are unaffordable.' << what does this mean?	[20:18]
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mircea_popescu	;P	[20:19]
pete_dushenski	also re-read the essences trifecta on trilema today. i guess it's an expressions and changes kinda day.	[20:21]
phf	BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, other aficionados: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-XL1201-LISP-MACHINE-/221915599560 << given that prices on symbolics hardware gone 3x in the past five years, i expect that same machine to fetch $40 000 in a year or two	[20:21]
assbot	RARE Vintage Computer Symbolics XL1201 Lisp Machine \| eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1M5xwJO )	[20:21]
pete_dushenski	the essences made far more sense than they did whenever i read them last, maybe 6-9 months ago	[20:21]
pete_dushenski	much as tlp is finding new life here, with fresher, more mature eyes	[20:22]
pete_dushenski	phf almost as good as bitcoin, that. just harder to ship.	[20:22]
mircea_popescu	phf and what's this say about inflation ? note that they are artwork in any sense.	[20:23]
BingoBoingo	So coca-cola was the villain this whole time https://archive.is/oRms0	[20:23]
assbot	The obesity paradox: Why Coke is promoting a theory that being fat won’t hurt your health - Vox ... ( http://bit.ly/1W35X9y )	[20:23]
pete_dushenski	not artwork ?	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	hm ?	[20:24]
pete_dushenski	"note that they are artwork in any sense" sounds funny. like it should either be "not that they are artwork in any sense" or "note that they are NOT artwork in any sense"	[20:25]
pete_dushenski	or "note that they are artwork in every sense"	[20:25]
mircea_popescu	any implies negative ?	[20:26]
pete_dushenski	mya	[20:27]
phf	http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-3600-LISP-MACHINE-KEYBOARD/321810769726 << was trying to buy this one, got as high as $1100 on best offer, guy wouldn't go any lower then $1400	[20:27]
assbot	RARE Vintage Computer Symbolics 3600 Lisp Machine Keyboard \| eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1OGZLVE )	[20:27]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303764 << i bet that cisco box contains shrunken heads of usg wreckers	[20:28]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 19:06:16; ascii_field: l0l cisco box. mircea_popescu took it off a dead nazi, or what.	[20:28]
BingoBoingo	http://www.consumerreports.org/cars/tesla-reliability-doesnt-match-its-high-performance << LolMusk	[20:29]
assbot	Tesla Reliability Doesn’t Match Its High Performance - Consumer Reports ... ( http://bit.ly/1OGZPVo )	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski actually it contains condoms.	[20:29]
pete_dushenski	aha. which reminds me, i need to put that on my grocery list !	[20:29]
BingoBoingo	"The brake rotors tend to warp. And the door handles often fail to “present” themselves as drivers approach their cars."	[20:29]
BingoBoingo	"The main problem areas involved the drivetrain, power equipment, charging equipment, giant iPad-like center console, and body and sunroof squeaks, rattles, and leaks."	[20:30]
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mircea_popescu	and speaking of condoms : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213277 can not be underlined enough!11	[20:30]
assbot	Logged on 26-07-2015 17:51:01; mircea_popescu: speaking of condoms... for many years, i was using imported magnums. broke like...i dunno, twenty over a decade ? easily 1%.	[20:30]
BingoBoingo	http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-americas-top-inventor-lowell-wood/	[20:31]
assbot	How an F Student Became America’s Most Prolific Inventor — Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1OH017k )	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo sounds pretty bad.	[20:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00053412 = 15.0622 BTC [+] {3}	[20:31]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: It's pretty bad compared to my more than a decade old Saturn plastic car	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	mya	[20:32]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo i have fond memories of those saturnmobiles. some fillies in undergrad had them.	[20:33]
pete_dushenski	which is no knock on them	[20:34]
pete_dushenski	they're pretty funky things	[20:34]
BingoBoingo	Every couple years something expected to wear out wears out, but other than that it's not needed much other than maintenance	[20:34]
pete_dushenski	"Despite the problems, our data show that Tesla owner satisfaction is still very high: Ninety-seven percent of owners said they would definitely buy their car again." << now that's a fucking cult	[20:35]
pete_dushenski	"was raped and beat-up and left for dead. a+++ 10/10 would do again!"	[20:35]
pete_dushenski	priceless	[20:35]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo that's the mark of an actual car, as opposed to a 'smartphone'	[20:36]
BingoBoingo	I don't get how they can be happy with just a 200 mile range before refilling	[20:36]
phf	i suspect that failures in this case are seen as being on bleeding edge, sort of meta-meta-maker	[20:36]
pete_dushenski	"oh you broke your screen/headlight ? that'll be 3/4 of the cost of a new one."	[20:36]
BingoBoingo	Maximum cost for parts on plasti-saturn is ~$2000 for a donor car in great condition	[20:37]
pete_dushenski	phf lol inb4 3d printer option in-between backseats so kids can 'innovate' while on road trip	[20:37]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo honestly, my merc is the same story. actually machines. plenty of parts and parts cars. even if, on short notice, clean body panels sometimes come from very, very far afield as seen in http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/20/hey-edmonton-police-service-what-part-of-private-property-dont-you-understand/#footnote_1_5675	[20:39]
assbot	Hey Edmonton Police Service, what part of private property don’t YOU understand? \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1W37axz )	[20:39]
phf	some part of car is replaced by a 3d printed equivalent, there's stl models and tutorials on maker.tesla.com, details on how to print your own, spiffier version	[20:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00053137 = 21.3345 BTC [-] {3}	[20:39]
pete_dushenski	but mechanical components are always readily at hand. can only imagine tesla ownership in backwaters such as these	[20:40]
pete_dushenski	phf lulz	[20:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00053558 = 12.3719 BTC [+]	[20:40]
pete_dushenski	;;isitup http://maker.tesla.com/	[20:41]
gribble	Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.	[20:41]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Kinda why if I replace it I am looking at incredibly common compact trucks	[20:41]
pete_dushenski	;;isitdown http://maker.tesla.com/	[20:41]
gribble	http://maker.tesla.com/ is down	[20:41]
pete_dushenski	mkay	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	phf> i suspect that failures in this case are seen as being on bleeding edge, sort of meta-meta-maker << maybe the truth is, the people who buy teslas don't have anywhere to go anyway.	[20:42]
BingoBoingo	But great work on that panel pete_dushenski	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	"here's my very expensive excuse as to why i'm not going out of the house. it's not that im borderline autistic, it's that i save the environment. from myself."	[20:42]
pete_dushenski	cheers :)	[20:42]
phf	whole foods?	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	sounds legit.	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	iirc you order those now, no ?	[20:42]
BingoBoingo	I actually saw a Tesla here driving in backwater exurban town. Have no Idea why.	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	trying to pick up chix ?	[20:43]
phf	i suppose you either amazon it or else "shop local" i.e. within walking/biking distance	[20:44]
BingoBoingo	Mebbe	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	"my other bike is a tesla"	[20:44]
phf	hahah	[20:44]
pete_dushenski	the black tesla i saw at the racquet club yesterday was driven by trophy wife with two kidlets in tow	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	200 miles sounds remarkably like bike range	[20:44]
pete_dushenski	a good bicyclist will do 100 km in a day	[20:44]
BingoBoingo	It is exactly the upper limit of bike range nearly	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	what if you stick his cock in a socket ?	[20:45]
pete_dushenski	100 km is nissan leaf range, give or take.	[20:45]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu then he loses his trophies for 'juicing'	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:46]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu then he loses his trophies for 'juicing' << Unless bicycle cop, then promoted	[20:47]
pete_dushenski	the expansion of means and methods of police mobility in just the last decade is pretty astounding.	[20:49]
pete_dushenski	used to be foot or cruiser, that's it.	[20:49]
pete_dushenski	now : foot, car cruiser, truck cruiser, armoured transport, bicycle, segway, and who knows mebbe jetpack	[20:50]
pete_dushenski	oh, i guess helicopter does that eh	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/wolf_blitzer_is_not_an_idiot.html << fucking epic. omfg what would the net be without this guy. quote :	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	"What happened is that Wolf was in the middle of a story some people suspected was a hoax, but was still being reported as a "thank god he was hiding in the garage" drama. So he tried to protect the story. He tried to pretend he missed the comment so that everyone could go on with the story as it was being told.	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	If you agree with this, then you have to also face the fact that Wolf didn't consciously plan, "no matter what happens in this interview, I'm going to cover it up"-- it was a reflex, an instinct. Get a drink, think about this: a reporter's instinct wasn't to go for the truth, but to go with the scripted story.	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	You may think that I'm too much with the rum or too hard on Wolf-- "he seems like such a nice man" but it's not Wolf's fault. He's a cog in the Matrix. The next day Meredith Vieira interviews the family live on the Today show. While the father is denying to her it was a hoax, the boy suddenly says, "mom, I need a cup" and vomits. Vierra's response to this is nothing. Forget about the implications of the boy's vom	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	iting, she does not even acknowledge that he vomited. Is she heartless? No. She's flustered: her instinct is to preserve the show, like a stage actress, keep the scene going no matter what else happens."	[20:50]
assbot	The Last Psychiatrist: Wolf Blitzer Is Not An Idiot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OH1jyV )	[20:50]
BingoBoingo	Hometown definitely had bike cops at least a decade and a half ago.	[20:50]
pete_dushenski	hm. ok. maybe 20 years ago then	[20:52]
pete_dushenski	i'm getting old, what	[20:52]
pete_dushenski	it used to be "omigerd a decade is fo-ev-ah". gonna take some getting used to, this.	[20:53]
BingoBoingo	I'm slowly coming to terms with this.	[20:53]
shinohai	http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/20/the-teenaged-maker-who-was-arrested-for-building-a-clock-is-moving-to-qatar/ <<< in order to learn how to make better clocks no doubt.	[21:05]
assbot	The Teenaged Maker Who Was Arrested For Building A Clock Is Moving To Qatar \| TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1W38q3I )	[21:05]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo can you check the qntra spam filter for a comment of mine ? i think it got scarfed.	[21:06]
pete_dushenski	twas last night something	[21:06]
pete_dushenski	sometime*	[21:06]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell jurov thanks for the coinbr fix !	[21:06]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	ahaha. if "meets obama" clocktard comes back a decade later onboard a plane that slams into the wh and kills the us president, i WILL write the "obama trained a future terrorist" article.	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	and this isn't that far fetched, either : us is just about due for a dead president.	[21:07]
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shinohai	I don't think it's far-fetched either.	[21:07]
pete_dushenski	qatar > mit.	[21:07]
pete_dushenski	middle east > usistan, despite lack of own brass bullets	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	of course, qatar is a reasonably rich, aspirational sort of arab world	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	not exactly pakistani	[21:08]
shinohai	Also, mircea_popescu added a new term to my vocabulary: clocktard	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	did you see the clock the kid made ?	[21:09]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303942 << i recall this aversion as well. when i was 12 ;p	[21:09]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 22:16:14; jurov: maybe it's just me but i don't like porn zooming all in to genitalia and spending minutes there, especially in this time of huge HD screens	[21:09]
mircea_popescu	as alf pointed out, with the power chord still attached, it looks like one of those retard constructions	[21:09]
pete_dushenski	thus, lesbians and chicks in wet t-shirts !	[21:09]
shinohai	Any other kid with half a brain would have written a cool clock script in python and showed his teacher.	[21:10]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu qatar is 'not exactly pakistan' for as long as it can fend off isis. so what, a few years ? a decade ?	[21:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00052679 = 1.7384 BTC [-]	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	you will notice isis is not really going for qtar	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	they'll probably conquer athens before qatar.	[21:10]
pete_dushenski	now there's a bet	[21:11]
shinohai	s'ok Putin got it under control. He'll squash them like they did Afghanistan in the 80's	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	the LAST thing they want is rich people who are also muslims dislinkign them.	[21:11]
pete_dushenski	i'd take even money on qatar falling before athens, if anyone's interested	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	how to be measured ?	[21:12]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Gotta resubmit. Last night means there's about 3/4 of a MB of fresh spam to dig through	[21:12]
pete_dushenski	can't grep or otherwise search ?	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	ouch bb that sdounds pretty bad	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	search for his email.	[21:13]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Not really. I mean if you can offer an hour and minute UTC.	[21:13]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: WIll try that	[21:13]
BingoBoingo	http://qntra.net/2015/10/troubled-bitpay-signs-up-gaming-platform/#comment-68863 << Approved	[21:15]
assbot	Troubled BitPay Signs up Gaming Platform \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OH37bk )	[21:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00052679 = 15.3296 BTC [-] {2}	[21:15]
pete_dushenski	cheers mate.	[21:16]
pete_dushenski	aite, i'm off to go bang my head against pergolesi's magnificat. such a bitch, this thing. later !	[21:17]
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mircea_popescu	what's the problem with banging hos	[21:17]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304100 << he 'made' nothing. my initial description was proven correct, he disassembled an old clock (folks found which make & model) and glued into a box.	[21:19]
assbot	Logged on 21-10-2015 00:08:21; mircea_popescu: did you see the clock the kid made ?	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	well he didn't invent it, he still made it. if you got a fish in a fishtank and it makes a poop, it didn't make that poop ?	[21:20]
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asciilifeform	in that sense - yes.	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	what are you, obama ?	[21:20]
BingoBoingo	Fucker didn't even make the box?	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	well yeah.	[21:20]
asciilifeform	obummer.	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	!up kdomanski	[21:20]
-assbot-	You voiced kdomanski for 30 minutes.	[21:20]
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*	asciilifeform just opened a 'your costs will go up exponentially' thingie from 'health insurance'	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	change you can believe in.	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	more of the same and less of everything.	[21:21]
asciilifeform	!s chocolate ration	[21:21]
assbot	2 results for 'chocolate ration' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=chocolate+ration	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	if vlad tepes were half-black dude born in kenya,	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	he'd probably have impaled people on toothpicks.	[21:22]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1304004 << holy fuck, i have two. paid a hundy for each.	[21:22]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 23:27:02; phf: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-3600-LISP-MACHINE-KEYBOARD/321810769726 << was trying to buy this one, got as high as $1100 on best offer, guy wouldn't go any lower then $1400	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	o look, they also went up exponentially in future	[21:22]
asciilifeform	but somehow i doubt that the market for these has 'depth'	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	phf wouldja pay him 4 btc for one ?	[21:23]
asciilifeform	i got an 'old-style' and 'new-style' (the latter is pictured in the ebay link)	[21:23]
asciilifeform	one (but not both) is for sale...	[21:23]
asciilifeform	(other - also for sale, but with whole orchestra)	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	please buy his old junk so he can uproot already kthx.	[21:23]
asciilifeform	* the former is pictured	[21:24]
phf	you're selling the whole orchestra, huh?	[21:24]
asciilifeform	old: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Symbolics-keyboard.jpg new: http://www.asl.dsl.pipex.com/symbolics/photos/IO/keyboard_6074.jpg	[21:24]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1W39ULy )	[21:24]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1W39ULA )	[21:24]
asciilifeform	phf: i've been (futilely) selling it for ages.	[21:25]
asciilifeform	http://webwit.nl/input/misc/symbolics1.jpg << nice photo of them side by side	[21:25]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1W39XXx )	[21:25]
asciilifeform	phf: machine: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=51	[21:25]
assbot	Loper OS » “Lisp, Lisp, Lisp Machine, Lisp Machine is Fun!” ... ( http://bit.ly/1W39ZP9 )	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	"Here's what happened on 9/12 at my hospital, and what happens in so many cases of high-emotion altruism: they take the day off in order to go to NYC, but then don't actually go (car wouldn't start; heard on the radio they were blocking volunteers, etc). They win: they get the reward of the sacrifice, perform no actual sacrifice, and get the day off. Meanwhile, someone else had to sacrifice to cover their responsibil	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	ities.	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	I think Rita Owens meant the statement "more Caucasian men stepping up" as a jab at blacks to get them movitated, but if it is factually accurate then these Caucasians are idiots. Really? Big Brothers? That's the call you heard? Whites seem particularly prone to manic devotions to faddish volunteerism inspired by celebrity that are transparently self-aggrandizing. And temporary-- they inevitably quit when the nex	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	t fashion comes along. "	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	awww!	[21:26]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303995 << more of a ming vase.	[21:27]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 23:22:28; mircea_popescu: phf and what's this say about inflation ? note that they are artwork in any sense.	[21:27]
asciilifeform	(than, e.g., rembrandt)	[21:27]
asciilifeform	but yes, artwork.	[21:27]
phf	so what are you asking for whole orchestra?	[21:29]
asciilifeform	difficult question. because i cannot offer ANY guarantee that it will survive shipping.	[21:30]
asciilifeform	in fact, i can pretty much guarantee that it will ~not~...	[21:30]
phf	doesn't need to, i will pick it up from the door	[21:30]
phf	assuming it's in DC	[21:30]
asciilifeform	hm. if the keyboard thing is any indicator, i now have nfi what the thing is worth.	[21:31]
BingoBoingo	assuming it's in DC << Awe, I though I would get a chance to open Bingo's courier service.	[21:32]
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phf	delivery by dc bike messenger	[21:33]
asciilifeform	and i have yet to meet with anybody who really grasped what he'd be getting into, buying this machine.	[21:35]
BingoBoingo	phf: Nah, motor courier service operating out of the central US, but if you are closer...	[21:35]
asciilifeform	especially now that dks has run short of parts (as, by all indications, he has, or we wouldn't be having this conversation..)	[21:35]
phf	asciilifeform: well twenex was selling a handful of ivory's for ~5000k, so a 3620 with it's power requirements and refrigerator size will be some fraction of that	[21:35]
asciilifeform	i see 9.5k	[21:36]
asciilifeform	wonder how he intends to ship it	[21:36]
asciilifeform	less of an issue, interestingly, with the xl1200	[21:36]
asciilifeform	(it is considerably lighter, something quite like a '90s pc)	[21:37]
phf	well, it's fraction of a size	[21:37]
phf	right	[21:37]
phf	i assume it's also significantly quieter ;)	[21:38]
asciilifeform	likely.	[21:38]
*	asciilifeform does not have a xl	[21:38]
*	asciilifeform has it on good authority that at least one u.s. army lab still runs a number of xl boxes !	[21:38]
asciilifeform	as in, 24/7	[21:38]
asciilifeform	they never, ever go down.	[21:38]
asciilifeform	for any reason.	[21:39]
phf	BingoBoingo: i'm actually moving to dc, so yeah, will be within shooting distance from ascii	[21:41]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1304077 << this was an obscene - in the sense of serving as conclusive proof that everyone who parroted the story in the fishwrap, etc. is long overdue to be boiled for soap - because - think about it...	[21:41]
assbot	Logged on 20-10-2015 23:50:06; mircea_popescu: If you agree with this, then you have to also face the fact that Wolf didn't consciously plan, "no matter what happens in this interview, I'm going to cover it up"-- it was a reflex, an instinct. Get a drink, think about this: a reporter's instinct wasn't to go for the truth, but to go with the scripted story.	[21:41]
asciilifeform	what is a weather balloon? how much does it lift ?	[21:41]
asciilifeform	is this quantity within an order of magnitude of what a boy (even a very small boy) weights	[21:41]
asciilifeform	and did anyone so much as bother to consider it?	[21:42]
BingoBoingo	phf: Ah. Entire appeal of Bingo's occasional courier service would largely be derived from proximity to US highways 50 and 40 facillitating broad range of lateral movement.	[21:43]
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phf	could target ebay sales of oversized, hard to deliver items	[21:47]
BingoBoingo	Well that and carrying the payload the comfort only a reliable yet non-descript family sedan can provide.	[21:47]
BingoBoingo	phf: Qntra takes too much of my time for that.	[21:47]
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BingoBoingo	Need the trifecta of over weight item, hard to insure, actually demands delicate treatment beyond UPS or USPS can provide	[21:48]
phf	might as well transport drugs	[21:49]
BingoBoingo	Nah, seizure risk is too much along with risk to qntra from lockup time	[21:49]
BingoBoingo	But endangered computing equipment, might be a niche market	[21:50]
asciilifeform	problem is not simply that it is oversized.	[21:50]
asciilifeform	but that it is a ming vase.	[21:50]
BingoBoingo	The serious problem	[21:51]
BingoBoingo	delicate	[21:51]
asciilifeform	as in, if it breaks, it cannot be meaningfully repaired (unlike the vase!) and certainly not replaced	[21:51]
BingoBoingo	Which is Y no UPS	[21:52]
asciilifeform	buyer would have to also understand that the thing is full of electrolytic caps, circa 1986; and there is a mechanical hdd	[21:52]
asciilifeform	which 1) uses incompatible, unreadable on any modern system whatsoever, electrical interface	[21:53]
asciilifeform	2) cannot be reinstalled (i don't have the tapes, or the tape drive) even if you could obtain another.	[21:53]
asciilifeform	for a while i researched the protocol and tried to build a solid-state replacement, got nowhere, too much like actual work	[21:54]
asciilifeform	the really fragile part is the console.	[21:56]
asciilifeform	(it is not a mere display monitor, but actually its own - 16-bit! computer.)	[21:57]
asciilifeform	connects to the box itself with a thick triax cable	[21:57]
asciilifeform	(the machine is loud, as in vacuum cleaner, so idea was that it lives in its own room, console - in a quiet, distant one.)	[21:57]
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*	BingoBoingo wishes more contemporary machines weren't afraid to be loud in the name of cooling.	[22:03]
phf	requires one of those futuristic syd mead houses, with an office room overlooking alpha centauri landscape, that's where you put the console. the computer is in the basement, calculating landing trajectories, for the private spaceship of your visiting friends	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	IF spaceships ever become a thing, then therefore surface living will be sort-of like mountain living today.	[22:06]
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mircea_popescu	no sane people wanted to live in the plain, for all of history, until machinery.	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	it's prohibitively expensive and also nonsensical to land a spaceship. and so...	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	live in orbit, visit the surface like you visit the seaside today.	[22:06]
BingoBoingo	no sane people wanted to live in the plain, for all of history, until machinery. << On a hill by a river or coast has always been and forever will be ideal on earth	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	doesn't build too good cities tho.	[22:07]
BingoBoingo	Of course. Good people though only keep a townhouse in the city	[22:08]
phf	mircea_popescu: well, yes, in the above narrative it's a summer house, you go there if you want to be alone and study migration patterns of some quirky local species, which is your hobby. all the action is in the orbit	[22:09]
BingoBoingo	St Louis tried the city on a hill thing and only got Ferguson and a bunch of outlying areas that flood from time to time	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	i suppose in the south of the future the masters live in orbit and the slaves roam below. to be abducted now and again for sexual services or w/e.	[22:11]
BingoBoingo	And further in the future quality slut breeders get a place in orbit without the good view.	[22:12]
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kakobrekla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304224 > good cooling doesnt have to be loud	[22:14]
assbot	Logged on 21-10-2015 01:02:21; *: BingoBoingo wishes more contemporary machines weren't afraid to be loud in the name of cooling.	[22:14]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: It does if you need to cool all the power	[22:14]
BingoBoingo	Sure one can quietly cool even a great machine.	[22:14]
BingoBoingo	But how does one quietly cool a monster	[22:15]
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kakobrekla	with a monster heatsink	[22:17]
BingoBoingo	Sure, but if the monster wants to idle at 300C you need moar than a heatsink. I'm disappointed there aren't many if any new chips like this	[22:19]
kakobrekla	nah.	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	temperature is not really the problem for a heatsink.	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	(think about it - temperature helps its function, that's how it works).	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	heat debit might be, maybe.	[22:22]
BingoBoingo	At some point gotta bring in a fan	[22:22]
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kakobrekla	hot air will raise creating some draft	[22:24]
BingoBoingo	But if air heats faster, there's gotta be a limit before you bring in the noise to bend air to your will	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	the only time you have to fan it is when the thing is INTOLERANT of temperature. the higher temperature it can tolerate the less fan you need.	[22:27]
BingoBoingo	base materials gotta have melting points	[22:27]
BingoBoingo	Also a wouldn't a 250 GHz chip cooled by having a small jet engine intake pull away the hot air be cool?	[22:28]
BingoBoingo	I mean an oil cooling system that burn the oil (Jet A only)	[22:29]
phf	new ricer fad, how loud your system is, neighbors call cops, "bro, i'm compling gentoo with -O10"	[22:30]
BingoBoingo	Seriously, except you tell the Po-Po you are curing cancer by donating your spare cycles	[22:31]
phf	verifying gavinblocks	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	if you move the air fast enough it will actually add heat.	[22:36]
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BingoBoingo	That too	[22:40]
BingoBoingo	To both previous non join/part lines actually	[22:40]
BingoBoingo	Randiant heat from the engine also a hazard.	[22:49]
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BingoBoingo	Fuck, radiant heat. We are talking about engines in general, not John Galt's in particular.	[22:51]
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deedbot-	[Trilema] The problem with altruism... - http://trilema.com/2015/the-problem-with-altruism/	[23:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47950 @ 0.00052679 = 25.2596 BTC [-]	[23:24]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304235 << iirc there was a film...	[23:30]
assbot	Logged on 21-10-2015 01:10:25; mircea_popescu: i suppose in the south of the future the masters live in orbit and the slaves roam below. to be abducted now and again for sexual services or w/e.	[23:30]
asciilifeform	forgot the title	[23:31]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304253 << perhaps BingoBoingo should look into the LN2 pc recipe.	[23:32]
assbot	Logged on 21-10-2015 01:28:08; BingoBoingo: Also a wouldn't a 250 GHz chip cooled by having a small jet engine intake pull away the hot air be cool?	[23:32]
asciilifeform	(at the very least, to get a feel for the actual physical limits involved.)	[23:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14117 @ 0.00052614 = 7.4275 BTC [-] {3}	[23:35]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Actually right now I'm working on a qntra piece on biological limits. originally targeted it for end of the month, but should be out by end of the week	[23:36]
*	asciilifeform was not aware of there having appeared new biological limits...	[23:36]
*	asciilifeform thought that qntra was a nyooz site	[23:37]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Tis a new site. The biological limits part involves US Law enforcement and clearnet markets they seem to like vs dislike.	[23:38]
BingoBoingo	i.e. WHy are Darknet busts full og C IV xanax paraded while clearnet C III busts not so much an only involve... to be revealed	[23:39]
BingoBoingo	And if asciilifeform gendarmie predictions come true the still will like...	[23:41]
BingoBoingo	As regular army does	[23:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00052612 = 5.2612 BTC [-]	[23:50]
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danielpbarron	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304267 << http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1535108/ >> In the year 2154, the very wealthy live on a man-made space station while the rest of the population resides on a ruined Earth. A man takes on a mission that could bring equality to the polarized worlds.	[23:59]
assbot	Logged on 21-10-2015 02:30:16; asciilifeform: forgot the title	[23:59]
assbot	Elysium (2013) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhkQU1 )	[23:59]

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