Forum logs for 20 Nov 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: a specifically american delusion was the subject of scalia's thing [00:08]
asciilifeform where the prisoner supposedly has a shot at 'proving innocence' all the way until the switch is flipped and the chair sizzles [00:08]
mircea_popescu im not aware of this [00:08]
mircea_popescu what is it, more pop culture ? [00:09]
asciilifeform in a sense [00:09]
asciilifeform when, e.g., the rosenbergs, sizzled, prior to the day of, telephone was installed not only in their cells but in the room containing the chair [00:09]
asciilifeform so there is something like actual custom behind the notion [00:10]
asciilifeform scalia's verdict concerned 'dna test' [00:10]
asciilifeform which became a thing, and a case concerned whether an already-condemned man were legally entitled to a dnatronic testing [00:10]
asciilifeform his opinion held that he were not. [00:11]
asciilifeform (scalia's, that is) [00:11]
asciilifeform herrera v. collins. [00:12]
asciilifeform or hm, no dna in this one ? [00:14]
asciilifeform iirc it was a factor in the decision though. that usg would be broken by the expense of being required to offer dnatronics to all death row. [00:14]
mircea_popescu something like that. [00:15]
mircea_popescu (it's deeper : that any sort of process is broken if it has to be constantly revised by "emerging" metaphysical considerations. basically he ruled that yes, we do release freeze.) [00:16]
asciilifeform but in doing so broke with the pretence that a trial is ~actually~ about finding of physical fact. [00:16]
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mircea_popescu the jury found as to the fact. [00:18]
asciilifeform (imagine if a judge and jury could themselves be executed, at ANY future point, if a future judge & jury were to find that the earlier had erred.) [00:18]
mircea_popescu ... [00:18]
asciilifeform how would trial be conducted ? [00:18]
mircea_popescu this incidentally is exactly how bitbet works : once a bet has been resolved, [00:18]
mircea_popescu THAT RESOLUTION is the reality. [00:18]
kakobrekla apart from a few cases where bb fucked up. [00:19]
mircea_popescu not thast it never happened : it is not possible for it to have happened. [00:19]
asciilifeform and by same token when i start up my fortran and assign 4 to 2, the two integers become equal ? [00:19]
* asciilifeform wrote a lisp interpreter as a schoolboy where one could do this [00:19]
mircea_popescu mno. [00:20]
mircea_popescu there is no "same token". [00:20]
asciilifeform papal infallibility ? [00:21]
mircea_popescu yes. [00:21]
asciilifeform kakobrekla pope ? [00:21]
mircea_popescu this is the absolute requisite for men to live in a world "as they wish it to be". [00:21]
kakobrekla iirc there was a case or two when the payment went to both sies [00:21]
asciilifeform pretty good pope record afaik [00:21]
mircea_popescu the alternative is exactly one, and it's known as "chaos" or generally other-bad-things. [00:21]
ben_vulpes kakobrekla is pope, mircea_popescu is god, cult transformation is complete [00:23]
mircea_popescu afaik kakobrekla has 0 involvement with resolutions on bitbet [00:23]
kakobrekla stfu pope sounds cool [00:23]
mircea_popescu a ok nm. [00:23]
mircea_popescu kakopopo [00:23]
mircea_popescu shit. [00:23]
mircea_popescu kakopope [00:23]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu << lol it tab completes [00:24]
ben_vulpes OFC [00:24]
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asciilifeform popabrekla. [00:50]
mircea_popescu if i ever meet his grandkids that;s what ima tell them to call him! [00:51]
mircea_popescu in other news, argentina has "many con chocolate", peanuts in black chocolate. fucking superb. [00:51]
mircea_popescu thye also have "higos con almendras", a cube of fig guts with an almond on top [00:52]
mircea_popescu i'll end up mayogendered and then everyone will hate me ;/ [00:52]
asciilifeform l0l [00:52]
mircea_popescu for good reason too [00:52]
mircea_popescu BUNCHA GEALOUS POORFAGS111 [00:52]
asciilifeform i think you need hfcs and a truck for 'mayogender' [00:53]
mircea_popescu i dunno dude, all my suits were 48 for 20 years, now i'm doing 52. [00:53]
asciilifeform and one of those wheelchair things [00:53]
* asciilifeform dreamed last night that he rigged an engine to his office chair and decided to never leave it again [00:53]
mircea_popescu cuz with dong attachment ? [00:54]
asciilifeform wasn't specified [00:54]
asciilifeform but for some reason. [00:54]
asciilifeform iirc it was more sloth than lust [00:54]
* asciilifeform has four-bit emotion register, usually mapped to sloth/greed/wrath/lust [00:55]
ben_vulpes heh greed [00:56]
asciilifeform two-bit [00:56]
asciilifeform motherfucker [00:56]
* asciilifeform prolly ought to bed [00:56]
mircea_popescu two extra bits for paritits. [00:56]
ben_vulpes hyuuu [00:56]
asciilifeform l0l aha [00:56]
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asciilifeform it was a very surreal dream in a way which doesn't easily come across. [01:02]
asciilifeform had legs, could walk, but ~could not be arsed~ [01:02]
asciilifeform sorta like if someone were to ask mircea_popescu to build ~his own~ gentoo etc. [01:02]
asciilifeform speaking of cults, [01:08]
asciilifeform who has seen the film 'sound of my voice' ? [01:09]
asciilifeform (or 'the east', by same chick - who wrote -and- lead in the film, about roughly the same thing) [01:09]
asciilifeform mega-filmz [01:09]
asciilifeform afaik she isn't in business any longer. which is imho a shame. was very much sui generis. [01:10]
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mircea_popescu ican't say i did [01:16]
* mircea_popescu adds to list. [01:16]
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punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1327943 << I read story as "look we don't want you to send 100mb RAWs, or spend time processing them on your laptop, we want the pics before they are on twitter/buzzfeed/whatever" [02:40]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 01:27:23; asciilifeform: seems like reuters bought into some idiocy where a huckster promised to distinguish one stream of bits, having the correct 'colour' (as in the essay, nothing to do with optics, but politics) from another, identical stream, having undesirable colour. [02:40]
ben_vulpes no lizard hitler in that interpretation, punkman [02:44]
Naphex mircea_popescu: i haven't disappeared anywhere.. got a bad case of pneumonia; Working on setting things back on track [02:45]
punkman lol http://petapixel.com/2015/11/16/photoshopped-selfie-of-sikh-man-widely-published-as-paris-terrorist/ [02:47]
assbot Someone Photoshopped this Sikh Guy, and Now the World Thinks He's a Paris Terrorist ... ( http://bit.ly/1MYhulw ) [02:47]
punkman now tell me that between "ethics and speed", reuters cares about ethics first [02:49]
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* ben_vulpes cannot [02:50]
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mircea_popescu o.O [02:58]
mircea_popescu !unrate Naphex [02:58]
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assbot Successfully unrated Naphex [02:58]
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Naphex mircea_popescu: have a nasty ass cold which turned into pneumonia, had to reboot my servers and take my keys out of the cold. had a bit of downtime. [03:06]
Naphex i'm off to bed. bbl [03:12]
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punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUH91dAWwAA2zgH.jpg:large [04:15]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OUqmiy ) [04:15]
punkman looking forward to the day buzzfeed acquires AP and their "big stories" [04:18]
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shinohai http://ca.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/royalty/2015111928332/queen-letizia-rania-madrid/0-140-594/queen-letizia--z.jpg <<< King JC needs a new tailor. [04:39]
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punkman http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/19/global-banks-blockchain-idUSL8N13E36B20151119 "R3 has also brought in bitcoin core developer Mike Hearn, as well as fincancial cryptographer Ian Grigg and bitcoin expert Tim Swanson." [06:01]
assbot R3 blockchain group adds 5 banks, brings in technology heavyweights [06:01]
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punkman https://github.com/ElementsProject/elementsproject.github.io/tree/master#segregated-witness > https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/commits/segwit [06:22]
assbot ElementsProject/elementsproject.github.io · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OixKkB ) [06:22]
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assbot Commits · sipa/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OixIt2 ) [06:22]
punkman "Potential for more efficient SPV output creation proofs (used by lightweight clients), as the signatures can be omitted from the transaction data without breaking the Merkle tree structure. Potential for nodes that do not wish to store or verify old transaction signatures, to remove the witness data from disk or not transfer it at all even, reducing blockchain storage/bandwidth amounts by a large factor" [06:23]
punkman the latest pill against malleability [06:24]
adlai "latest"? [06:24]
punkman "Commits on Nov 20, 2015 " [06:25]
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punkman https://peerj.com/preprints/1515v1/ [08:57]
assbot Software development: do good manners matter? [PeerJ PrePrints] ... ( http://bit.ly/1XdWvAI ) [08:57]
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jurov !t m x.eur [09:28]
assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00311983 / 0.00312828 / 0.00324912 (627 shares, 1.96 BTC), 7D: 0.00311983 / 0.0031757 / 0.00333647 (1393 shares, 4.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00286166 / 0.00366047 / 0.00430867 (6913 shares, 25.30 BTC) [09:28]
jurov ;;calc 1/0.00312828 [09:29]
gribble 319.664480162 [09:29]
jurov ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoincentral [09:29]
gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 300.0, Best ask: 304.5, Bid-ask spread: 4.50000, Last trade: 302.0, 24 hour volume: 105.5782488, 24 hour low: 298.7, 24 hour high: 314.98999999, 24 hour vwap: 304.33510007 [09:29]
* mircea_popescu enters into the record that had naphex moved to argentina last year he wouldn't have had pneumonia this year. [09:36]
mircea_popescu it's never been under 10 here. like ever. [09:36]
jurov here in balkans it wasn't under 10 in last half year, either [09:43]
mircea_popescu what's half year do for you, you're not moth-lived are you. [09:43]
* punkman is wearing shorts and has all the windows open [09:44]
punkman (there are people walking around with coats outside) [09:45]
mircea_popescu looking forward to the day buzzfeed acquires AP and their "big stories" << won't be long now. then they can all sell to some derpy "we make money while sleeping" spam outfit that slashdot got sold to. [09:46]
mircea_popescu and don't even get me started on the topic of the spanish rohohoyals. they have magazines here, it's all the chickies read, they keep going on and on about the noblesse refinement and you know, bla bla of the juan carlos clan. and the pictures... my god, the pictures. [09:48]
punkman didn't know spanish royalty fans existed until today [09:48]
mircea_popescu but what difference does it make, right ? let the squaw chew her squaw candy thinking it's ambrosia, who cares what happens in the colonies and territories at the ends of the earth. [09:49]
mircea_popescu ahahaha tim swanson is a bitcoin expert now ? [09:49]
mircea_popescu he has a certificate of unexpertise duly issued like last year. [09:49]
mircea_popescu the latest pill against malleability << no, the latest in "gotta serve the customer" because "customer has come to expect" that "he just wants to". [09:50]
mircea_popescu "The more polite developers were, the less time it took to fix an issue. In the majority of the analysed cases, the more developers wanted to be part of a project, the more they were willing to continue working on the project over time." [09:52]
mircea_popescu who the fuck are these dumb shits, seriously. [09:52]
mircea_popescu i wish to know, what qualifies Giuseppe Destefanis, Marco Ortu, Steve Counsell, Michele Marchesi or Roberto Tonelli to discuss the matter, at all. [09:52]
mircea_popescu what makes they believe they understand enough of anything to trust themselves to make a decent model of the thing they purport to study, so as to measure something meaningful and construct conclusions worth considering. [09:53]
BingoBoingo i wish to know, what qualifies Giuseppe Destefanis, Marco Ortu, Steve Counsell, Michele Marchesi or Roberto Tonelli to discuss the matter, at all. << Their open sore ass [09:53]
mircea_popescu i do not seem to remember any name associated in a managerial capacity with any successful project ever. [09:53]
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mircea_popescu who the fuck told twentysomething derps that they can create pseudoscience out of their ass, i wish to know. [09:53]
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punkman how long until someone quotes this to Linus [09:55]
mircea_popescu and check it out, in order to leave a http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328186 < read the logs. you gotta... "Sign up" [09:55]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 12:48:07; mircea_popescu: "The more polite developers were, the less time it took to fix an issue. In the majority of the analysed cases, the more developers wanted to be part of a project, the more they were willing to continue working on the project over time." [09:55]
mircea_popescu well done, team derp. [09:55]
mircea_popescu punkman someone, never will, by definition of someone. [09:55]
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jurov http://bestmobs.com/13mp-pepsi-p1s-smartphone-launched-with-fingerprint-scanner/ " The smartphone named Pepsi Phone P1S which produced by Shenzhen Scooby Communication Equipment Co. Ltd has been launched in China." [10:37]
assbot 13MP Pepsi P1S smartphone launched with fingerprint scanner ... ( http://bit.ly/1LqkiGX ) [10:37]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/0GGN97F [10:55]
assbot dpaste: 0GGN97F ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lqm9eG ) [10:55]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: neato. would work. [11:01]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328151 << wut??!!! [11:03]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 09:19:46; punkman: "Potential for more efficient SPV output creation proofs (used by lightweight clients), as the signatures can be omitted from the transaction data without breaking the Merkle tree structure. Potential for nodes that do not wish to store or verify old transaction signatures, to remove the witness data from disk or not transfer it at all even, reducing blockchain storage/bandwidth amounts [11:03]
asciilifeform 'Potential for nodes that do not wish to store or verify old transaction signatures' << didja know we 'needed' this ?? i certainly didn't [11:04]
mircea_popescu think of africa! [11:04]
mircea_popescu biafracoin! [11:04]
mircea_popescu financial revolutions by poor people for poor people [11:04]
asciilifeform hivrapewithsandlubricantcoin [11:04]
mircea_popescu and assorted insanities. [11:04]
asciilifeform muticoin. [11:05]
mircea_popescu afrikaans reads exactly like crazy fucking idish on pcp [11:06]
asciilifeform sure does [11:06]
asciilifeform iirc it is to dutch approx. as ua is to ru [11:07]
mircea_popescu almost like some baltic fishermen read a book of jokes (soory i mean joeks) and went "what the fuck is this platdeustch bs! HERE IS HOW REAL MEN SAY IT!" [11:07]
adlai !b 4 [11:08]
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mircea_popescu from that other chan : [11:28]
mircea_popescu prolly it would be for the best to track those numbers down too , but really the list is already longer than my both arms :p [11:28]
mircea_popescu go to alf, take shiva lessons. [11:28]
mircea_popescu see, i recommend people for employment! [11:28]
asciilifeform l0lz [11:28]
BingoBoingo !b 5 [11:28]
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* asciilifeform still picking self up off the floor after reading the signatureless-tx thing [11:29]
mircea_popescu you don't understand how the world works! [11:29]
asciilifeform clearly! [11:29]
mircea_popescu the merkle tree is signed! by visa! [11:29]
mircea_popescu why do you need bitcoin anyway ? we're here in bitcoin to barnacle innovation into the same old soup! hear us roar! [11:30]
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asciilifeform imprinted with the anal seal of his scaly majesty's own tail ! [11:30]
mircea_popescu anyway, this is how it works. extend the franchise, import the poor, pretend it's just as much x as the real x, on it goes. [11:32]
mircea_popescu what, bitcoin is a pill against exactly this ? HA! [11:32]
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asciilifeform ;;bc,stats [11:33]
gribble Current Blocks: 384468 | Current Difficulty: 6.5848255179702614E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 385055 | Next Difficulty In: 587 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 17 hours, 43 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [11:34]
* asciilifeform observes that his trb nodes have been 10-20 blx steadily behind latest-known, for at least a week [11:34]
mircea_popescu 384468 here. [11:34]
mircea_popescu methinks you suck. [11:34]
asciilifeform no shit [11:34]
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asciilifeform anyone else operating trb within the reich seeing same ? [11:35]
asciilifeform and hm, it's just this one box [11:37]
asciilifeform bucephalus has kept up. [11:37]
asciilifeform 60 peers. [11:37]
asciilifeform uptime == 60 days as of present time. [11:37]
jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328220 << trade on eulora, play on mpex! (r) (tm) [11:38]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 14:24:14; mircea_popescu: prolly it would be for the best to track those numbers down too , but really the list is already longer than my both arms :p [11:38]
asciilifeform keel.btc.petertodd.org << had no idea this was a thing. [11:42]
asciilifeform isn't he a bootlick of hitler's ? [11:42]
asciilifeform doesn't accept incoming sockets, either [11:43]
asciilifeform just eats at other folks' tables, yes. [11:43]
BingoBoingo isn't he a bootlick of hitler's ? << He seems exceedingly comfortable consorting with confirmed bootlickers [11:44]
asciilifeform http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/19/us-usa-immigration-mexico-idUSKCN0T82F220151119 << l0lz [11:51]
assbot More Mexican immigrants leaving U.S. than entering: Pew [11:51]
asciilifeform and from same fishwrap, [11:53]
asciilifeform http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/13/us-pennsylvania-play-idUSKCN0T207N20151113 [11:53]
assbot Pennsylvania college cancels play after author objects to white actors [11:53]
asciilifeform 'When he saw the cast photos earlier this month, he demanded through Blickers to know the ethnicity of the actors, she said. "I couldn't stop myself from crying when I saw the photos and realized what was happening," Suh wrote in his e-mail.' [11:53]
mircea_popescu what is all this monetization of crying in the us ? [11:55]
asciilifeform nfi. perhaps they bottle the tearz ? [11:55]
mircea_popescu seems everyone's trying to get himself a spot in the consideration line by the quality and quantity of tears they dispensed, all of a sudden. [11:55]
mircea_popescu as if THAT is the relevant thing, that o mai gawd someone cried. [11:55]
mircea_popescu who gives a shit and why would they ? [11:55]
asciilifeform al schwartz's 'victimhood olympics' [11:55]
mircea_popescu ridoinculous. all the tears you can muster and five dollars buys you a cup of coffee [11:56]
mircea_popescu provided the shop's open. [11:56]
asciilifeform very salty coffee [11:56]
mircea_popescu no, they give you a special plate for tears. don't have to cry straight in the cup like fucking savages. [11:56]
deedbot- [Qntra] EU Planning Bitcoin "Crackdown" - http://qntra.net/2015/11/eu-planning-bitcoin-crackdown/ [11:56]
mircea_popescu lolwut [11:56]
mircea_popescu now i can't write the article i was gonna write because i gotta read the article he actually wrote [11:57]
mircea_popescu I HAVE TEARS IN MY EYES [11:57]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Derp outlets were running pieces on this. [11:57]
BingoBoingo lol [11:57]
mircea_popescu why isn't it crackup anyway ? [11:57]
mircea_popescu isn't down racist ? [11:57]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ordnance [11:57]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: fxd [11:58]
mircea_popescu "In the United States where mass shootings are far more common knee jerk reactions typically consist of proposals for new restrictions on firearms, though in Paris, France, and much of the EU more stringent firearms regulations are practically impossible due to the existing draconian restrictions" loller [11:58]
BingoBoingo why isn't it crackup anyway ? << Crackup happens after crackdown. Tears feed laughter. [11:58]
mircea_popescu not bad. [11:59]
BingoBoingo tty [11:59]
asciilifeform so, davout in coke machine yet ? [11:59]
mircea_popescu thanks god reading is faster than writing. [11:59]
mircea_popescu poor davout is probably glaring down more and more little karpeleses [11:59]
mircea_popescu france's fulla 'em. [11:59]
davout was [11:59]
davout what coke machine which karpelii? [11:59]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You prolly still oughtta write. You anger levels still seem awfully high after those days without Trilema for venting your ragehol. [12:00]
mircea_popescu davout the coke machine is this putative alf-proposed torturing device to extract bitcoin out of people. he's twisted like that. [12:00]
asciilifeform davout: it was, i think, in old thread. it's a kind of iron box where you lock a man and he only gets to eat (corn syrup, by the litre) while he enters valid btc private keys and the cumulative balance not yet exhausted. [12:01]
davout interesting [12:01]
davout i only remember asciilifeform's rectal heater thing [12:01]
asciilifeform also available with optional rectal module [12:01]
BingoBoingo also optimal rectal module [12:03]
asciilifeform other optional modules available are 'mercytron', which releases hcn gas when address printed on outside of machine is loaded with certain coin; or even 'ransomatron', which opens the lock if a certain coin arrives... [12:04]
mircea_popescu and continuig thing, "fuckurmommatron", which delivers gaoler's mother when idem, and so on. [12:04]
mircea_popescu as the wise jew once noted, "there's a blessing for anything". ie, there's always a good something to say. [12:05]
asciilifeform aha. inquire at dealership for full catalogue. [12:05]
jurov what's the advantage over waterboarding? [12:05]
mircea_popescu pretty much the only valid covenant. [12:05]
asciilifeform jurov: no need for skilled labour [12:05]
asciilifeform jurov: and robot can't be bribed or bought, nor 'leaks' [12:05]
asciilifeform (unless the gaskets have worn through) [12:06]
punkman horses are cheaper than machine [12:06]
mircea_popescu whores cheaper than horses. [12:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68815 @ 0.00051421 = 35.3854 BTC [+] {3} [12:07]
punkman http://2static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/99/57/995795_5616585.jpg [12:08]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PR07bj ) [12:09]
* BingoBoingo hates to pay holiday rates for seekrits extraction mechanic [12:09]
davout asciilifeform: robots can be ssh'd into [12:09]
jurov "robot can't be bribed or bought, nor 'leaks'" << the waterboarding stage is just one stage of whole scheme [12:09]
punkman http://2static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/89/dc/89dcce_5616585.jpg [12:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PR08Mq ) [12:10]
jurov you'd need robots to autonomously hunt and extract suspects, etc. [12:10]
mircea_popescu can we have this in sci-fi ? [12:16]
mircea_popescu http://2new4.fjcdn.com/pictures/Corrupted_4d9927_5616585.jpg ahahaha great [12:18]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PR0DpV ) [12:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37313 @ 0.00051282 = 19.1349 BTC [-] {3} [12:18]
BingoBoingo http://2new4.fjcdn.com/pictures/Corrupted_4d9927_5616585.jpg ahahaha great << Should have watched his prolactin, but good for him embracing the gyno [12:22]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PR0DpV ) [12:22]
mircea_popescu aha [12:22]
mircea_popescu that was originally one of the boring disney chicks neh ? [12:22]
BingoBoingo I think one of the disney dudes [12:25]
BingoBoingo But who can really tell [12:25]
punkman he's the bad guy in beauty and the beast [12:25]
mircea_popescu oh. [12:26]
mircea_popescu i tho0ught it was the blondie. [12:26]
mircea_popescu my great is hereby withdrawn. [12:27]
mircea_popescu what is the blondie anyway ? rapunzel ? [12:27]
punkman beauty is a brunette iirc [12:29]
mircea_popescu i thought that was snow white. [12:30]
mircea_popescu they got an eastern chick in salvari, a redhead which i dun recall what she was [12:30]
mircea_popescu and a blondie [12:30]
BingoBoingo https://i.sli.mg/telrut.jpg << re: charlie sheen [12:31]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8SU5Q ) [12:31]
punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ2dI_B_Ycg pogo defense system [12:31]
assbot 'Littlebits' 'Arduino' knife-wielding tentacle - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8SV9G ) [12:31]
BingoBoingo And people though Mizzou was racis http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/white-student-union-challenges-black-lives-matter-at-university-of/article_52b015d1-23de-5912-8eeb-71e1436d00c8.html [12:35]
assbot 'White Student Union' challenges Black Lives Matter at University of Illinois : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1PR1Ygk ) [12:35]
BingoBoingo "for white students of University of Illinois to be able to form a community and discuss our own issues as well as be able to organize against the terrorism we have been facing from Black Lives Matter activists on campus," [12:36]
BingoBoingo "a safe place for White students," [12:36]
trinque let the record state that the white students can piss their pants better, longer, wetter than the black students, lest anyone be confused. [12:39]
* mircea_popescu recalls what he said. [12:39]
mircea_popescu the us blacks are headed to the smoke stacks. [12:40]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Now'd probably be a safe time to move to Argentina [12:41]
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mircea_popescu so BingoBoingo i can't locate a quote [12:46]
BingoBoingo Which quote? [12:46]
mircea_popescu some orc screamed at some prof something to the effect of "this is not about intellectual freedom, this is about making a home, do you get that" [12:46]
mircea_popescu in the recent missouri rebellion of the lazy and the stupid against work. [12:46]
mircea_popescu dja have it ? [12:46]
BingoBoingo Should be able to dig it up soon. The prof's name was "Click" [12:47]
mircea_popescu lol [12:47]
mircea_popescu ty [12:47]
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BingoBoingo Allegedly the video, but its youtube so eh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRlRAyulN4o [12:52]
assbot #ConcernedStudent1950 vs the media - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8VN6s ) [12:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67339 @ 0.00051163 = 34.4527 BTC [-] {6} [12:53]
* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [12:53]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: https://web.archive.org/web/20151107010454/http://yaleherald.com/op-eds/hurt-at-home/ [12:53]
assbot Hurt at home - The Yale Herald ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC0MXq ) [12:53]
mircea_popescu sveet. [12:54]
pete_dushenski "We are supposed to feel encouraged to go to our Master and Associate Master with our concerns and feel that our opinions will be respected and heard." [12:54]
pete_dushenski "But, in his ten weeks as a leader of the college, Master Christakis has not fostered this sense of community. He seems to lack the ability, quite frankly, to put aside his opinions long enough to listen to the very real hurt that the community feels. He doesn’t get it. And I don’t want to debate. I want to talk about my pain." [12:54]
pete_dushenski "They have failed to acknowledge the hurt and pain that such a large part of our community feel. They have again and again shown that they are committed to an ideal of free speech, not to the Silliman community." [12:54]
pete_dushenski etc. [12:54]
mircea_popescu im not giving jencey-nobody the time of day. [12:55]
mircea_popescu "This is not about creating an intellectual space! Do you get that ? It’s about creating a home here!" [12:55]
mircea_popescu is what it was. [12:55]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Yale can start mattering when it plays in an actual footbal conference instead of that bullshit poof Ivy League shit [12:55]
pete_dushenski why would softies want to bash heads with tried and true orcs again ? [12:56]
pete_dushenski to prove something ? [12:56]
BingoBoingo Of course [12:57]
pete_dushenski mkay prove what ? that brawn > brain ? [12:58]
BingoBoingo To prove that they really aren't scared of those "urban" kids who go to state schools [12:59]
BingoBoingo And to prove that their use of "summer" as a verb doesn't make them idiots [13:00]
pete_dushenski but yale kidz ARE scared, they ARE idiots. but even still, even if they weren't, why does the (slightly retarded) hawk have to prove anything to the fox ? [13:02]
BingoBoingo The truth of the matter is that the Yale kids wish they were cool enough to go to LSU or Alabama [13:02]
pete_dushenski why's that ? what's the attraction at lsu or 'bama ? [13:03]
pete_dushenski hotter tail ? [13:03]
BingoBoingo hotter tail, better parties, and less crushing pressure to be their own grandparents a few decades too early [13:04]
pete_dushenski o noes, the pressure to be an adult ! lol [13:05]
BingoBoingo Because why live in a residence hall called a "college" with a surgeon calling himself "master" when you can go to West Fucking Virginia and burn couches? [13:05]
deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Alf, the lathe dog. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/20/alf-the-lathe-dog/ [13:05]
BingoBoingo ;;google west fucking virginia couch burning [13:05]
gribble "West Fuckin Virginia" T-Shirts - Deadspin: ; Morgantown Banned Outdoor Couches To Stop West Virginia ...: ; [Post Game Thread] West (1 more message) [13:05]
BingoBoingo "West Virginia has become infamous for couch burning. The Morgantown City Council is attempting to put a stop to it. A new city ordinance will ban upholstered furniture from being kept outdoors. The city claims there have been more than 3,000 such fires in the last decade." [13:06]
pete_dushenski that's barely one couch fire a day. pff. [13:06]
pete_dushenski http://www.techinsider.io/ketchup-leather-is-the-ultimate-burger-sogginess-solution-2015-11 [13:07]
assbot Ketchup Leather is the ultimate burger sogginess solution - Tech Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8XUY1 ) [13:07]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: You can't count every day though. Just the six fall days with home games. [13:08]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328122 << get well soon ! [13:09]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 05:41:35; Naphex: mircea_popescu: i haven't disappeared anywhere.. got a bad case of pneumonia; Working on setting things back on track [13:09]
BingoBoingo comes out to 50 per home football game, excluding that ones that don't get caught [13:09]
BingoBoingo Colonist problems http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/11/scurvy_is_common_and_should_be_diagnosed_and_treated.html [13:11]
assbot Scurvy is common and should be diagnosed and treated. ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8YDIM ) [13:11]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: and these couch fires make non-yale skools more attractive how again ? [13:11]
phf if i were to take an issuing certificate (say, google's GIAG2), convert it from der to pem, and then feed the pem to openssl s_client -CAfile, then assuming that whatever i'm connecting to has been issued by the ca, everything should just work? [13:12]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Because you aren't fucking lighting a couch on fire UNLESS you are partying hard [13:12]
phf pete_dushenski: you don't get it, it's real life, man, not those yale faggits [13:12]
pete_dushenski or because you get to hang out with a buncha other 20 yo who are also 12 yo boys who think fire is "neat" and "dangerous" ? [13:12]
pete_dushenski faggits secretly haet themselves. obv. [13:13]
pete_dushenski must be moar like party orcs. HOW NOT !!1 [13:13]
BingoBoingo It's because the lower party members at Yale can and MUST envy the relative freedom of the proles [13:13]
pete_dushenski not so. [13:14]
BingoBoingo Necessary. Being beyond that resentment if for upper party members who pointedly do not go to Yale [13:15]
pete_dushenski being an idiot slave to what you perceive is a worthwhile master can perfectly compensate for the lack of freedom. [13:15]
BingoBoingo Who at Yale finds that compensation? [13:15]
pete_dushenski perception is reality [13:15]
pete_dushenski these 'lower party members' know not where else to look for 'social mobility' [13:15]
pete_dushenski even if 'social mobility' is just luck [13:16]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/01/american-social-mobility-is-really-just-luck-says-data/ << see thread [13:16]
assbot American “social mobility” is really just luck, says data. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNArGT ) [13:16]
BingoBoingo Then why do so many want to leave their rat maze to "become writers" or "urban homestead" [13:16]
BingoBoingo The Yale strata of the USian population wants exactly the life of being poor, but without the continentcy of actually being poor [13:17]
BingoBoingo Because they already think themselves rich and not very good at it [13:18]
pete_dushenski why do so many want to leave their rat maze to "become writers" << because kool kids flirt with writers and lend them the air of importance they so desperately desire [13:18]
pete_dushenski better than moneys [13:18]
pete_dushenski yale strata are middle class, yes, imprisoned, yes, but look upwards and behave as they THINK they would if they were upper classmen [13:19]
pete_dushenski so, no swearing, as per http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/28/how-to-tell-if-youre-middle-class/ [13:19]
assbot How to tell if you’re middle class. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1QSVdeH ) [13:19]
pete_dushenski (who knew this was becoming my area of anthropological expertise) [13:20]
pete_dushenski s/anthropological/entomological [13:20]
BingoBoingo But they also look down with envy [13:21]
mircea_popescu hotter tail, better parties, and less crushing pressure to be their own grandparents a few decades too early << the latter. yes. they're regressed to mean and expected to outperform exceptional talent selected by exceptional luck. [13:21]
mircea_popescu glhf. [13:21]
BingoBoingo The look at Arizona State students and are totes jelly that they can't bikini spring break at the lake every weekend. [13:22]
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mircea_popescu arizona state, only state. [13:22]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: perhaps, but still, never the twain shall meet. they're different sorts of kidz. yale kidz might want to party hard, but they'll do m/blow/raves, not couch burning and fist-fighting. [13:22]
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mircea_popescu (ftr, me went to a highschool that had a spa across the road. summertime, the better tail was across teh street) [13:23]
funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328381 <-- because Oxford [13:23]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 16:01:25; BingoBoingo: Because why live in a residence hall called a "college" with a surgeon calling himself "master" when you can go to West Fucking Virginia and burn couches? [13:23]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: But they will KNOW that they aren't partying very hard [13:24]
pete_dushenski lol such bullshit. you been to a proper rave ? [13:24]
pete_dushenski you'll be a zombie for DAYS after a good rave. [13:24]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Nah, but neither have Yale kids. Only one letter away from rape, much triggers. [13:24]
pete_dushenski possibru, this. [13:25]
mircea_popescu rape at the rave ? [13:25]
mircea_popescu there's penis missing! [13:25]
* pete_dushenski has not seen yale campus with own eyes. [13:25]
funkenstein_ BingoBoingo, exceptions to that verified [13:25]
BingoBoingo mebbe [13:26]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: very few rapes at raves. mucho amor para todos. easy lovin'. [13:27]
mircea_popescu aha [13:27]
mircea_popescu also can't really get it up. [13:27]
pete_dushenski with 'm' for sure [13:27]
shinohai pete_dushenski: ever seen that film Go ? [13:28]
pete_dushenski don't think 'ghb' (aka. date rape drug, but taken voluntarily!!!!) has same flaccidifying effect [13:28]
pete_dushenski shinohai: no ? [13:28]
BingoBoingo Isn't this what easy internet viagra is for? [13:28]
shinohai http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139239/ <<< best rave depiction [13:29]
assbot Go (1999) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1S91iCg ) [13:29]
pete_dushenski lol jay mohr's in it [13:30]
shinohai Very much worth a view if drug-induced boredom strikes you. [13:31]
deedbot- [Trilema] Internoc24, or : the crisis, and its resolution - http://trilema.com/2015/internoc24-or-the-crisis-and-its-resolution/ [13:34]
mircea_popescu http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-m-parsons/message-to-my-freshman-st_b_7275016.html << i find the admixture of wishful thinking and budding classism actually quite endearing. like a 15yo's first sexual blush. [13:35]
assbot Message to My Freshman Students | Keith M. Parsons ... ( http://bit.ly/1QSXW7X ) [13:35]
mircea_popescu check it out, next thing you know "hogwash" is going to turn into the sound of a cane, and "You, on the other hand, come to my classes fresh from a culture with different values, one that finds academic ways strange and hard to understand." is going to become "drop the stupid, this isn't the place for it". [13:35]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell asciilifeform betcha never thought 'lathe dog' would conjure up ~this~ image ;) http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/20/alf-the-lathe-dog/ [13:36]
gribble The operation succeeded. [13:36]
assbot Alf, the lathe dog. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1QSY47F ) [13:36]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: adorable watching them grow up, isn't it ! [13:37]
mircea_popescu aha. [13:37]
mircea_popescu especially the most endearing part of it all, their deeply imprinted conviction that they're special, different, experiencing the world privately and personally. [13:37]
phf that's just silly, wealthy people by definition have an easy access to a wider range of experiences. i'm sure there are pathological cases of "mother would be displeased", but in my experience downward mobile ivy have easy time integrating themselves into whatever cultures. [13:38]
mircea_popescu phf quote this definition for my benefit ? [13:39]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: btw i checked the golf course irrigation math and did some more data digging : 1.2 metres of 'rainfall' is simulated in the ~average~ southwest u.s. golf course. so 2.0 metres+ in, say, palm springs is well within reason. [13:40]
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mircea_popescu myeah. i come from a place where irrigation is measured in added cm. crops requiring 20 or more are seen as uneconomical. [13:41]
mircea_popescu but hey, the world's bigger than transylvania [13:41]
phf it's poor turn of phrase, but in this case i meant that wealth lets you find solutions to logistical problems [13:41]
mircea_popescu you haven't just said "by definition" without actually having a definition in mind have you ? tsk tsk. [13:41]
mircea_popescu anyway : you can only solve problems you perceive as problems. [13:42]
mircea_popescu wealth insulates from the perception of problems, which is how you end up with the jewish princess. [13:42]
mircea_popescu she doesn't even know she's annyoing. [13:42]
mircea_popescu she wouldn't be, ironically, if anyone had told her off when she was 12 and it was easy to change [13:42]
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mircea_popescu now she's 25 and it takes a shitload of beatings and tears to achieve the same effect. [13:42]
mircea_popescu i blame the parents, even as i beat their offspring. [13:43]
pete_dushenski and the jap's parents smile to themselves knowingly as a result [13:43]
pete_dushenski comforted by the knowledge that they COULDN'T HAVE DONE BETTER [13:44]
pete_dushenski seems reasonably adaptive, this strategy. [13:44]
mircea_popescu everything that doesn't put your own ass on the line is reasonably adaptive, sure. [13:44]
pete_dushenski thusly viewed, judaism makes sense ! [13:45]
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phf well, wealth eliminates problems, higher up the scale you go, less things are problems, with some maximums like the jewish princess, or other stereotypes like a completely out of teach rich person. my point is there is long tale of sufficiently wealthy people who can hang out with rednecks, and then hop on a plane to goa for a month [13:49]
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thestringpuller <+BingoBoingo> thestringpuller: Now'd probably be a safe time to move to Argentina << I wanted to check out japan first where they adore the negros for some reason or another. Or at least from what I can gather from Kareem Abdul Jabars auto biographical works of living there on stints with Bruce Lee. [13:52]
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mircea_popescu mo money mo problems. [14:01]
punkman https://instagram.com/smokincigs23/ [14:04]
assbot @smokincigs23 • Instagram photos and videos ... ( http://bit.ly/1T48G2F ) [14:04]
thestringpuller <+mircea_popescu> mo money mo problems. << didn't take mp for a biggie fan [14:08]
mircea_popescu i mostly smoke 2nd hand. [14:08]
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phf only so many bugatti rims one can buy [14:13]
phf i'm going to stick to my cultural heritage, gold chains, rolex and adidas [14:14]
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ascii_field meanwhile in the land of ze phree, [14:16]
ascii_field http://www.wired.com/2015/11/carnegie-mellon-denies-fbi-paid-for-tor-breaking-research [14:16]
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ascii_field 'In a terse statement Wednesday, Carnegie Mellon wrote that its Software Engineering Institute hadn’t received any direct payment for its Tor research from the FBI or any other government funder. But it instead implied that the research may have been accessed by law enforcement through the use of a subpoena. “In the course of its work, the university from time to time is served with subpoenas requesting informat [14:16]
ascii_field ion about research it has performed,” the statement reads. “The university abides by the rule of law, complies with lawfully issued subpoenas and receives no funding for its compliance.”' [14:16]
trinque phf │ i'm going to stick to my cultural heritage, gold chains, rolex and adidas << I hereby invoke "pix or didn't happen" [14:18]
trinque it'll be some kind of ru thug quinceanera [14:20]
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jurov phf forgot gold teeth [14:22]
ascii_field and '600' [14:22]
phf ствол is the most important part of course [14:27]
ascii_field aha! [14:27]
* ascii_field always found this interesting, how you shoot from a 'barrel' in engl, but from ствол -- 'trunk' (as in tree) in ru [14:28]
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jurov "hlaveň" - "head part" in slovak [14:30]
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gabrielradio ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://dpaste.com/1H2Q7YJ#wrap [14:38]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328457 << nifty [14:42]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 16:32:17; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform betcha never thought 'lathe dog' would conjure up ~this~ image ;) http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/20/alf-the-lathe-dog/ [14:42]
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ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu '20GB with 2x 1000 GB non-SATA HDD' << ??? >> didja mean it? really, PATA ? or meant to say 'ssd' ? [14:49]
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punkman http://i.imgur.com/2hDScab.jpg [14:58]
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BingoBoingo From the mines: "There's actually only a finite amount of olive oil in the world. All the natural stuff was used up by the late 1700's. The stuff you're eating now has actually been recycled from obese Greek fishermen. There island of Naxos holds a festival every year wherein fishermen with a BMI over 40 are rolled into huge presses called 'Obesitinia' and then slowly crushed, releasing their fragrant oils. " [15:01]
punkman wut [15:02]
mircea_popescu ascii_field meant to say ssd. he wtfs me on it later on. [15:06]
BingoBoingo punkman: Isn't that how it works? [15:08]
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punkman BingoBoingo: plausible, if you are familiar with the fragrance of the olive oil mill [15:23]
mircea_popescu stol, in romanian, is a flock (like of birds) [15:23]
mircea_popescu lol good oil. [15:25]
thestringpuller wow reading the footnotes on the new trilema took me straight into idiocracy [15:25]
thestringpuller it's an epidemic with no cure. [15:26]
mircea_popescu in other news : no fisherman ever, in the lengthy history of htat trade, was obese. [15:26]
punkman eh [15:26]
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mircea_popescu that was the objection to spencery tracy in old man and the sea : too plump [15:26]
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trinque thestringpuller: reminded me of the rabbi and the ewe too; that was a good footnote. [15:29]
BingoBoingo But, But... Underrepresented! Muh Feels! [15:29]
phf i like to do overnight trips with local fishermen at whatever exotic locations i go to, and i can say that most of the time you burn calories by simply sitting in the cold (not to mention stabilization, or actual work) [15:32]
mircea_popescu or heavy protein intake, or poverty. [15:33]
thestringpuller ;;google black people can't be racist [15:34]
gribble "black people cannot be racist": the difference between prejudice ...: ; MTV Says Black People Can't Be Racist - YouTube: ; Black People Can't Be Racist - YouTube: [15:34]
deedbot- [Qntra] Venture Capital Fuels Stupidity In Bitcoin Not Innovation - http://qntra.net/2015/11/venture-capital-fuels-stupidity-in-bitcoin-not-innovation/ [15:35]
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jurov http://www.neuroscientistnews.com/clinical-updates/one-very-brainy-bird unrelated,but maybe... what about startup to use pigeons as bitcoin traders? [16:01]
assbot One very brainy bird | Neuroscientist News ... ( http://bit.ly/1kLogVK ) [16:01]
punkman isn't that what buttfinex does [16:01]
jurov darn [16:02]
jurov "Even distant relatives—like people and pigeons—are adept at perceiving and categorizing the complex visual patterns that are presented in pathology and radiology images, [16:02]
jurov (wait for this) [16:02]
jurov surely a task for which nature has not specifically prepared us." [16:02]
jurov no complex visual pattern recognition for ya!!!1 [16:04]
mircea_popescu lmao [16:07]
mircea_popescu !s fractal [16:07]
assbot 1526 results for 'fractal' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fractal [16:07]
jurov medicine already prepping for the day most of the population will be diabetes-blind [16:07]
mircea_popescu other things "surely nature has not specifically prepared us" for : movement detection, gradient orientation and other bacteria-level tech. [16:09]
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mircea_popescu it's just accidentally a feature of life ever singe octopi came about a bazillion years ago, with their barely functional eye. [16:10]
mircea_popescu otherwise, obama invented perceiving and categorizing complex visual patterns [16:10]
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gabrielradio http://committingsociology.com/2015/11/18/colorblindness-and-cynicism/ [16:27]
assbot Colorblindness and Cynicism | Committing Sociology ... ( http://bit.ly/1kLseOa ) [16:27]
gabrielradio 'the colorblind can see through many kinds of camouflage. Because they’re not distracted by colors, they can often see the contours of a thing—it’s outline—with unusual clarity. Even so, despite this upside, being colorblind is, on balance, a net handicap to the colorblind individual. They’re missing out on a great deal.' [16:27]
gabrielradio 'Cynics (...) who are especially good at seeing through bullshit pay dearly for their gift. I suspect that being able to see past nuance comes at a cost. The ability to rapidly reduce complicated moral questions into simple either/or propositions is probably a function of an absence. To wit: the moral clarity of most cynics is probably a function of some sort of emotional colorblindness.' [16:27]
deedbot- [Trilema] Fellow zoologists! - http://trilema.com/2015/fellow-zoologists/ [16:29]
mircea_popescu what is this, feelscience ? [16:32]
thestringpuller what is with this war on cash? [16:33]
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thestringpuller buddy just called me up and said police confiscated 500 bucks cash he was holding to spend during the weekend since he doesn't like using debit cards. [16:34]
thestringpuller "this is going to be used for a crime we need to take this" [16:34]
trinque lol it's not a war on cash; he got robbed! [16:35]
trinque they love cash [16:35]
thestringpuller i mean it's his fault for keeping it in the open so cop was like "what's with that roll of 20's there" [16:35]
mircea_popescu yeah, it's his fault for having money. seems legit. [16:36]
thestringpuller i kno right. and if he goes to court to try and get the money back they'll be like "nope." [16:37]
thestringpuller damn shame. [16:37]
mircea_popescu next time, bust a cap in cop's ass before gets chance to open mouth. [16:38]
thestringpuller http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/TheVirginiaTechShooter/gifs/ani_wayne-brady-cop-killer.gif << I suppose I should since Wayne Brady is more gangster than I could ever be. [16:40]
thestringpuller When I get pulled over tends to go like, "You were speeding." "Sure" "Okay here's ticket. Uh you have dreads are you high." "Uh no." "Okay have fun be safe." [16:41]
thestringpuller Suburbia has it's perks. [16:41]
deedbot- [Qntra] Every Tesla Model S Recalled Over Safety Equipment Failure - http://qntra.net/2015/11/every-tesla-model-s-recalled-over-safety-equipment-failure/ [16:42]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: documentd >> documented [16:43]
BingoBoingo fxd [16:43]
punkman "In early November, a customer sitting in the front passenger seat turned to speak with occupants in the rear and the seat belt became disconnected" [16:44]
punkman ffs [16:44]
thestringpuller so what a billion dollars of cars is being recalled? [16:45]
punkman "but we estimate the cost is not material and shows Tesla’s heightened focus on safety,” said Ben Kallo" [16:45]
punkman yes you recall all your cars, but cost not material [16:45]
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jurov i guess they can drive themselves to service [16:53]
BingoBoingo Sure just put the destination in the autopilot, set a brick on the prissy pedal and wait for it to come home. [16:54]
jurov lol actually that's the future. cars will come barely working with obligation to leave them every other night go for "bugfixes" [16:55]
BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/nKSjTGa.png << Mayospiration [16:55]
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* ben_vulpes imagines what it must be like to go from software to safety-critical hardware [17:03]
BingoBoingo http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/cats-cucumbers-scared-video-1.3327174 [17:06]
assbot Spooking cats with cucumbers could cause 'psychological problems,' says Calgary vet technician - Calgary - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1SMVyyd ) [17:06]
BingoBoingo ""What I actually worry about is long-term psychological problems. Some cats are quite delicate," said Lara Chan with the Calgary Cat Clinic." [17:06]
BingoBoingo "If you've already played this prank on your cat, Chan said, you may have inadvertently made them afraid of cucumbers — forever." [17:07]
BingoBoingo "If your cat has a high exposure rate to cucumbers, it's probably not going to turn around and think it was anything other than a cucumber. We worry about the ones that have never, ever seen a cucumber before." [17:07]
BingoBoingo Apparently nao cats need "safe spaces" [17:08]
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* BingoBoingo unsure if cat safe space need is worth a qntra. Maybe some wordsmith can give it an adequate take [17:12]
mircea_popescu lol actually that's the future. cars will come barely working with obligation to leave them every other night go for "bugfixes" <<< good god he's right. [17:13]
ben_vulpes it's not scavenger culture, it's webdev culture. [17:15]
ben_vulpes "ah, we'll fix it tomorrow." [17:15]
mircea_popescu ;;google have you confused your cat today [17:16]
gribble Confuse-A-Cat ~ Monty Python's Flying Circus - YouTube: ; Monty Python - Confuse-A-Cat - YouTube: ; Monty Python: Confuse-a-Cat: [17:16]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/J0aNCtN.jpg << best pic ever. [17:16]
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mircea_popescu kinda reminds me of academia catavencu, this 1990s romanian rendition of le canard enchanee [17:16]
mircea_popescu well, back when that was funny, anyway. [17:16]
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mircea_popescu ;;google leblouh [17:58]
gribble Leblouh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Leblouh - Force-Feeding Young Girls in the Name of Beauty | Oddity ...: ; Women fight Mauritania's fattening tradition - CNN.com: (1 more message) [17:58]
mircea_popescu there you go BingoBoingo [17:58]
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BingoBoingo with fire, kill it [18:17]
BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-interim-police-chief-resigning-early/article_8e3e7850-0d79-5c34-8fed-c125b04251ec.html [18:22]
assbot Ferguson interim police chief resigning early : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1XfbKJF ) [18:22]
mircea_popescu btw, i humbly submit for your consideration that for the future qntra does s/Obama/President Bahamas/ [18:23]
BingoBoingo I'll see what I can do [18:25]
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adlai president gbanga [18:28]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328614 << somebody tell the american chix, turns out there's this secret valhalla for them [18:28]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 20:54:32; gribble: Leblouh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Leblouh - Force-Feeding Young Girls in the Name of Beauty | Oddity ...: ; Women fight Mauritania's fattening tradition - CNN.com: (1 more message) [18:28]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field was having a private lulz earlier at the "strong condemnation" of the aziz fellow in mauretania. [18:29]
mircea_popescu he's been strongly condemned since about the time saddam had wmds. [18:29]
mircea_popescu in other news : what you do in your house has no correlation with the police knocking on your door. the only criterion is, whether they want to move in or not, is all. [18:30]
mircea_popescu if they do want to move in, you sure as fuck musta have been doing something. [18:30]
ascii_field naturally [18:30]
ascii_field coke in the toilet tank (tm) [18:30]
mircea_popescu i sitll have nfi why all these dubious regimes don't go on a shoot first policy. [18:31]
mircea_popescu i can see why individual cowards don't shoot cop first, ask questions after. [18:32]
mircea_popescu but states ? the only fucking reason the concept even exists is that it should be fearless. [18:32]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: the concept mostly went away in 1865 [18:32]
mircea_popescu what exactly is keeping everyone from goiing somalia ? [18:32]
mircea_popescu kidnap the fucking uss cole crew, sell them back for a suv a head. [18:33]
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mircea_popescu what, they're going to defend themselves ? [18:33]
ascii_field which 'everyone' [18:33]
mircea_popescu senegal. egypt. chile. laos. [18:33]
mircea_popescu what the fuck, the 150. [18:33]
ascii_field iirc it's standard british method - the chieftains have childrenz at princeton who could 'have problems' [18:34]
mircea_popescu the country formerly known as the country to be in the future known as myanmar has been in exactly the same situation of mauretania / ukraine / iraq / what have you for what, 20 years now ? [18:34]
mircea_popescu why aren't they out there shooting bazookas at us shipping from fishing boatds. [18:34]
mircea_popescu what problemz are htey going to have ? [18:35]
ascii_field the bazooka suppliers have childrenz at princeton? [18:35]
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mircea_popescu and ? [18:37]
ascii_field i just now grokked this - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328641 - mircea_popescu actually thinks that the ~150 unaligned toy countries are sovereign ?? [18:38]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 21:29:53; mircea_popescu: what the fuck, the 150. [18:38]
ascii_field where 100 usd buys a cop [18:38]
ascii_field and 1000 - mayor [18:38]
mircea_popescu so ? [18:38]
ascii_field 10,000 - a general ? [18:38]
mircea_popescu make better money kidnapping us "troops" for ransom [18:38]
mircea_popescu than whatever he gets currently. [18:38]
mircea_popescu and no, there would be NO reprecussions. those have been out on order for 30 years now. [18:39]
ascii_field i'm sold. but you gotta convince... them. [18:39]
mircea_popescu i was jus' wondering. [18:39]
mircea_popescu wtf must be going through their head. [18:39]
ascii_field i suspect that the standard alpha orc still wants to 'make it in the west in the end' (tm) [18:40]
ascii_field swiss chalet, or wtf. [18:40]
mircea_popescu but such doth not exist. [18:40]
mircea_popescu he's more in a swiss chalet in orclandia than anyone, including Pres. Bahamas, ever has or could have. [18:40]
ascii_field y'know, the classical 'london exit' of a ru oligarch [18:40]
mircea_popescu except ... it didn't work. [18:40]
mircea_popescu they know it didn't work. [18:40]
adlai berezovsky seems happy enough [18:40]
mircea_popescu pig squealing last words of berlusconi were "fuck this stupid shit, i wish i was younger so i could just go kidnap nato troops at sea" [18:41]
mircea_popescu so ? [18:41]
ascii_field ditto abramovich [18:41]
mircea_popescu you're kidding me right ? [18:41]
ascii_field it's a religion, the worship-the-west thing, and doesn't die easily [18:42]
mircea_popescu i guess. [18:42]
jurov mircea_popescu has ever shot any officer himself? [18:52]
BingoBoingo He has that story about taking that police lady's gun. [18:53]
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gribble The operation succeeded. [18:55]
mircea_popescu ask me that once i run a military coup in fucking mauretania [18:57]
mircea_popescu or three, as the case may be. [18:57]
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mircea_popescu but anyway, maybe the answer actually has little to do with a "west worship" thing, and simply is that the sort of people who have goals and set about to pursue them simply no longer exists. for all i know the problem of mauretania is exactly the problem of missouri : everyone in sight principally desires to sit down in front a tv. [18:58]
mircea_popescu for all we know a & b are ACTUALLY happy doing nothing worth the mention in their london cell. [18:58]
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ben_vulpes http://community.babycenter.com/post/a29415695/because_asians_are_already_yellow [19:10]
ben_vulpes > jondus [19:10]
assbot "because asians are already yellow" - BabyCenter ... ( http://bit.ly/1X3rNzr ) [19:10]
ben_vulpes the internet is for moms [19:11]
ben_vulpes the internet is for moms [19:11]
ben_vulpes moms moms moms [19:11]
ben_vulpes the internet is for moms [19:11]
pete_dushenski "jondus" is basically the cajun spelling [19:11]
adlai uh, 'b' is no longer caged in any cell... he at least seems to have made the best of the west [19:12]
deedbot- [Qntra] Obama at ASEAN: Money Overwhelms Ideas - http://qntra.net/2015/11/obama-at-asean-money-overwhelms-ideas/ [19:12]
adlai http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2013/03/24/did-boris-berezovsky-kill-himself-more-compelling-did-he-kill-forbes-editor-paul-klebnikov/print/ [19:13]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1X3rXHe ) [19:13]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes web != internet. [19:14]
BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328694 << since mircea_popescu asked [19:14]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 22:08:40; deedbot-: [Qntra] Obama at ASEAN: Money Overwhelms Ideas - http://qntra.net/2015/11/obama-at-asean-money-overwhelms-ideas/ [19:14]
* mircea_popescu clings to this last hope. [19:14]
BingoBoingo has picture and everything [19:15]
mircea_popescu um... why is president bahamas refered to as "obama" ? [19:15]
BingoBoingo For the search engines. [19:15]
mircea_popescu ... [19:15]
* pete_dushenski chuckled at 'bahamas' [19:15]
mircea_popescu this is backwards! [19:15]
BingoBoingo And I haven't figured out a way to make it flash between the two [19:15]
mircea_popescu who cares about one ! [19:16]
BingoBoingo At least I included the Hussein so everyone knows he birthed ISIS [19:16]
BingoBoingo I guess I should figure out a way to help the imageblind get the joke [19:17]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: necessary for scansion [19:19]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo good jokes are not widely gotten [19:19]
BingoBoingo Image nao captioned [19:19]
* BingoBoingo goes to study assigned reading for a bit [19:24]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [19:25]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328682 << possibly subtler, in that yes, they might have plans, but none of them include shitting in holes in the ground and catching frags [19:26]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 21:54:18; mircea_popescu: but anyway, maybe the answer actually has little to do with a "west worship" thing, and simply is that the sort of people who have goals and set about to pursue them simply no longer exists. for all i know the problem of mauretania is exactly the problem of missouri : everyone in sight principally desires to sit down in front a tv. [19:26]
ascii_field if you wanna equate this to 'watch tv' - whatever. [19:26]
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mircea_popescu they're all haxxors ? [19:26]
mircea_popescu with their rot-13 korans ? [19:26]
BingoBoingo Do the holes in the ground have tv's [19:26]
mircea_popescu looky here, france did happen. [19:26]
ascii_field but there's a reason why it was kalash in paris, and not nuke at davos. [19:27]
BingoBoingo red mercury? [19:28]
ascii_field the reason is that the world of goatfuckistan has precious little to offer the kind of people who could arrange for the latter [19:28]
ascii_field whatever happened to dr khan anyway [19:28]
mircea_popescu nuke at davos ? [19:29]
mircea_popescu what is that going to do ? [19:29]
mircea_popescu seriously, nobody cares about some old farts. [19:29]
mircea_popescu did they not kidnap and ransom that inept us soldier, what's his name ? [19:29]
ascii_field fine $davos [19:29]
mircea_popescu mno. [19:29]
ascii_field wherever lizard eggs are hatched [19:29]
mircea_popescu mno. [19:29]
mircea_popescu nobody cares about this supposed "center" bs. [19:29]
mircea_popescu just shoot the cops / kidnap the "soldiers" and sell them back. [19:30]
mircea_popescu this is how the arabs imploded "the west" last time. [19:30]
ascii_field under saladin ? [19:30]
ascii_field aha [19:30]
pete_dushenski palestinians still use this strategy against israel [19:30]
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pete_dushenski in other news, i'm quite enjoying this atm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtLoaMfinbU [19:31]
assbot Piotr Tchaikovsky: The Nutcracker - Ballet in two acts (HD 1080p) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1X3tQnb ) [19:31]
ascii_field forget nuke, even [19:33]
ascii_field but something as elementary as pgp. [19:33]
ascii_field y'know, the sorta thing you need to not be entirely transparent to usg microscope at all times... [19:34]
ascii_field in re: paris, i see it as an own goal [19:34]
ascii_field quite like bush's '9-11' [19:34]
mircea_popescu what, and the chick was just a bystander ? [19:35]
ascii_field which chick [19:35]
adlai fwiw, idf policy post-shalit is that, if you're witnessing the kidnapping as it happens, you shoot to kill nappers and/or nappee alike [19:35]
ascii_field adlai: this is the only sane response [19:36]
ascii_field otherwise 'meat shield' [19:36]
adlai but this policy has yet to prove itself anything beyond rote words repeated from sergeant to recruit [19:36]
BingoBoingo ;;google Supernova Refsdal [19:37]
gribble SN Refsdal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Sjur Refsdal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Supernova Refsdal and Galaxy Cluster MACS J1149.6 ... - HubbleSite: [19:37]
adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328733 << Aggartha, if we could only find it! [19:37]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 22:25:29; ascii_field: wherever lizard eggs are hatched [19:37]
mircea_popescu sane response or no, the us is not capable. [19:38]
mircea_popescu but anyway, random chick that got insulted cause they asked her where's her bf [19:38]
mircea_popescu from the actual data i've seen, about a third of us "forces" are not actually psychologically capable of using their weapons. [19:39]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: iirc this was circa-1940s [19:39]
ascii_field and was down to a few % by vietnam [19:39]
ascii_field incapable, rather [19:40]
ascii_field ~90%+ wouldn't pull the trigger in ww2, a few % in vietnam [19:40]
mircea_popescu add to that the endless piles of wags, whornalists, "agents" and other useless bs, you have better chances to get shot by shooting yourself. [19:40]
ascii_field i hear plenty of u.s. folk have problems with aim when shooting self, for some reason [19:40]
ascii_field it always intrigued me [19:41]
ascii_field is it because they were trying 'ironically' ? [19:41]
mircea_popescu go obese, try again ? [19:42]
BingoBoingo is it because they were trying 'ironically' ? << likely [19:42]
mircea_popescu (really, the reason is the reptile brain also has a say) [19:42]
ascii_field possibly the only uniquely usian aspect of this is the eagerness of the medics to stitch'em back up (as described in mircea_popescu's suicide how-to) [19:43]
mircea_popescu us docs love trauma [19:44]
BingoBoingo ^ [19:45]
mircea_popescu it's the only field of medicine they are good at. [19:45]
ascii_field they also love chronics [19:45]
ascii_field regardless of what kind [19:45]
BingoBoingo Most US docs not very fond of the Beetus and fold mold [19:45]
ascii_field BingoBoingo: but the sponsor - is [19:45]
ascii_field just like in last night's thread where mircea_popescu explains how nobody asks the motherfucking programmers anything [19:46]
ascii_field ditto doctor [19:46]
ascii_field the money - decides. [19:46]
BingoBoingo ascii_field: Just over half the sponsors. Other nearly half is disappoint because they tend to dislike the medicaid rates [19:46]
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BingoBoingo related http://epmonthly.com/article/psych-units-in-the-ed-trend-solution-or-neither/ [19:52]
assbot Psych Units in the ED: Trend, Solution, or Neither? - Emergency Physicians Monthly ... ( http://bit.ly/1la7VJG ) [19:52]
pete_dushenski "Arguably the least appreciated resource for Islamic State is its fertile farms. Before even starting the engine of a single tractor, the group is believed to have grabbed as much as $200 million in wheat from Iraqi silos alone." [19:52]
pete_dushenski "ts fields could yield $200 million per year if those crops are sold, even at the cut rates paid on black markets. And how do you conduct airstrikes on farm fields?" [19:53]
pete_dushenski http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-19/why-u-s-efforts-to-cut-off-islamic-state-s-funds-have-failed [19:53]
assbot Why U.S. Efforts to Cut Off Islamic State’s Funds Have Failed - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1la7YFs ) [19:53]
BingoBoingo "ts fields could yield $200 million per year if those crops are sold, even at the cut rates paid on black markets. And how do you conduct airstrikes on farm fields?" << easily, call monsanto [19:53]
ascii_field ^ [19:54]
ascii_field 'agent orange' et al [19:54]
pete_dushenski easily how ? [19:54]
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adlai chemtrails! [19:55]
BingoBoingo Imazapyr, glyphosate [19:55]
pete_dushenski 'agent orange' is off the shelf and u.s. has planes ready and waiting for this ? [19:55]
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ascii_field pete_dushenski: ask colombia [19:55]
BingoBoingo Imazapyr is sold in any casual gardening store. [19:55]
pete_dushenski colombians have less anti-aircraft tech perhaps ? [19:55]
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BingoBoingo "Ground Clear" concentrate contains only 0.08% Imazapyr 5.0% Glyphosate as the concentrate. Works for most of a year after application. [19:56]
BingoBoingo !up ascii_field [19:56]
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BingoBoingo Frankly there are far more effective herbicides now than there were in the agent orange days [19:57]
trinque this notion they have that ISIS is something to be surgically removed from otherwise neutral "occupied" people, it's cute. [19:59]
trinque that's of course why they will never go after the food production. [20:00]
trinque http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=14-11-2015#1323266 [20:01]
assbot Logged on 14-11-2015 00:37:36; mats: nobody has the stomach to detonate a nuke over al-raqqah [20:01]
mircea_popescu incidentally, i must say, as someone whose education such as it was happened on old style, film x rays [20:03]
BingoBoingo And no amount of Monsanto has yet produced glyphosate resistant wheat to my knowledge [20:03]
mircea_popescu HOLY SHIT has this field improved. [20:03]
pete_dushenski also, iraq seems to have something like 3.75 mn hectares (9.27 mn acres) of agricultural land for wheat production [20:04]
BingoBoingo Also picloram and "Agent White" are still commercially available [20:04]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski it's all idle masturbation. the usg can do about as much there as it can do against martians. [20:04]
pete_dushenski apparently mircea_popescu hasn't seen 'mars attacks' where eiffel tower is lasered in half [20:05]
mircea_popescu oh ok. [20:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00051262 = 15.5324 BTC [+] {2} [20:05]
BingoBoingo Inducing famine is about all USia can seriously try and even then ISIS is prolly sitting on a decent stockpile of US MREs [20:05]
mircea_popescu they'll just move. [20:05]
BingoBoingo To Paris, rinse, repeat [20:06]
mircea_popescu this is about as bright as "here's an oil fire in my kitchen, i know, splash water!" [20:06]
BingoBoingo Still safer than doing the same with a magnesium fire [20:06]
pete_dushenski "throw toaster at fire!" [20:06]
pete_dushenski "hot things attract and cancel each other out!" [20:06]
pete_dushenski (like garlic repels red mercury. aha.) [20:07]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: speaking of idle masturbation, i tried sifting my way through a few of 'pseudoerasmus' ' other blogs posts and pretty much choked to death on that inanity and pointlessness [20:08]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2015#1325797 << this blogger [20:08]
assbot Logged on 17-11-2015 13:45:44; punkman: http://pseudoerasmus.com/2014/10/24/szabo-china/ [20:08]
BingoBoingo also, iraq seems to have something like 3.75 mn hectares (9.27 mn acres) of agricultural land for wheat production << Nothing compared to the soy fields USia already sprays with glyphosate. [20:09]
pete_dushenski the main thing running through my head while TRYING to read about ancient greek economics, what that point mircea_popescu made in a footnote recently about 'economists need businessmen but not vice versa' [20:10]
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mircea_popescu i've not got around to reading anything else of the guy's. [20:10]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: well, domestic is domestic. no implementation constraints with captive audience. [20:10]
pete_dushenski it's mostly not worth it [20:11]
BingoBoingo Still the glyphosate in sufficient quantity exists [20:11]
BingoBoingo US will prolly do an Assad and drop barrel bombs of it [20:11]
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mircea_popescu of course, chemical warfare is still forbidden as per teh various conventions [20:12]
mircea_popescu you know, the stuff the us has been pushing as replacement for local governments. [20:13]
pete_dushenski pseudoerasmus reminds me a bit of vlaclav smil with a bit more focus on history and (obviously, given format) a bit less thoroughness [20:13]
pete_dushenski vaclav* [20:13]
pete_dushenski bit less of a pessimist than smil too [20:14]
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ben_vulpes re: "ed", a nurse was over last night, lamenting the shift from "emergency room, you know, a big room with sheets, "emergency department" with individually nicely fitted out, warm rooms with room service that someone other than $invalid is paying for" [20:21]
ben_vulpes "to improve the quality of care!" mno. to increase the cost of care. [20:21]
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pete_dushenski "They may have a reputation for being bird-brained, but pigeons have found to be as adept as humans when it comes to spotting cancerous tissue in mammograms." [20:30]
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pete_dushenski "Experts trained a group of the birds to tell the difference between benign and malignant human breast tissue using food reinforcement techniques." [20:31]
pete_dushenski "Over the course of two weeks, the birds' accuracy at studying the slides improved from 50 per cent up to 85 per cent - and in one instance this rose as high as 90 per cent." [20:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.000515 = 22.9433 BTC [+] {3} [20:31]
pete_dushenski top kek. 'radiologist' goes to 'skool' for 10 years+ of post-secondary, spends $bezzle in tuition, and is still no better than a garbage-eating pigeon [20:32]
jurov surely, nature had not imbued him [20:32]
ben_vulpes no better than random selection, really. [20:33]
ben_vulpes which should be entirely unsurprising, as most doctors i've met can't do odds for poker in their heads much less the odds for human ailments. [20:33]
jurov um...can be pigeons learned poker? [20:34]
ben_vulpes no, but random selection. [20:34]
ben_vulpes the question to ask is "can oncologists beat a coin toss?" [20:34]
adlai how about "all neural networks can be trained by the sufficiently smart dataset, not only ANNs" [20:39]
pete_dushenski "The [British] Air Force has been forced to write off a brand new $115million gunship after a pilot accidentally flew it upside down, according to a report. The AC-130J Ghostrider gunship was taking part in a training mission over the Gulf of Mexico in April this year having taken off from Elgin Air Force Base, officials said. The pilot, from 413th Flight Test Squadron, was taking part in a 'sideslip' maneuver when h [20:44]
pete_dushenski st control of the 132ft-wide aircraft before it turned upside down." [20:44]
pete_dushenski apparently flying upside-down "exceeded manufacturer's stress limits" [20:45]
pete_dushenski despite there being no accident or injury or malfunction [20:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00051539 = 5.257 BTC [+] [20:46]
pete_dushenski imagine head of isis decommissioned ak47 because it was shot upside-down when fighter aped american gangster from u.s. movies [20:46]
ben_vulpes this is actually a thing with planes, pete_dushenski. [20:46]
ben_vulpes exceeding the envelope is bad. [20:46]
ben_vulpes now if the envelope is retardedly small, that's a different problem. [20:47]
ben_vulpes exceeding stress limits is akin to holding the tach in the red for an extended period of time. [20:47]
ben_vulpes yes, you can do it, and yes the car will survive. how many hours did you take off of its life, however? [20:48]
pete_dushenski why not find out ! [20:48]
* ben_vulpes blinks [20:48]
pete_dushenski worst case : lose a few pilots/crew [20:48]
pete_dushenski cheaper than $115 mn place [20:48]
pete_dushenski plane* [20:48]
pete_dushenski useful info to be gleaned as well [20:49]
ben_vulpes how are you going to lose the crew and not the plane, praytell [20:49]
ben_vulpes given that the ejector seats are to save the staff at the expense of hardware. [20:49]
pete_dushenski for the sake of argument, let's say that the plane will depreciate sufficiently to accommodate for loss of life. so $115 mn lost, but info gained. or $115 lost and no info gained. [20:50]
adlai "write off" doesn't mean the plane gets scrapped and resold as coke cans [20:51]
jurov there are testing pilots for ...er... testing that know better how to do these experiments [20:51]
ben_vulpes "will depreciate...to accomodate for loss of life", sorry, not following. as though i were 5? [20:53]
kakobrekla adlai if its not airworthy, are you going to dive the seas with it? [20:53]
jurov and they do want pilots to risk in combat, hence arrangements to preserver their life [20:53]
adlai kakobrekla: well pete_dushenski didn't link source so i'm not sure what's in store for that plane, but all i took from the quote is that it won't be chemtrailing isil farmlands [20:53]
ben_vulpes adlai: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ghostrider-gunship-scrapped-after-inverted-flight-sc-419208/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter [20:53]
assbot Ghostrider gunship scrapped after inverted flight scare ... ( http://bit.ly/1T59Vyw ) [20:53]
adlai this is #bitcoin-twatters now? [20:54]
ben_vulpes i have no idea where it came up with the notion i found it on twitter [20:54]
kakobrekla ;;google Air Force has been forced to write off a brand new $115million gunship [20:54]
gribble Air Force Forced To Write Off New $115Million Gunship After Pilot ...: ; Air Force forced to write off brand new $115million gunship after ...: [20:54]
kakobrekla dozens [20:55]
jurov gotta train pigeons instead [20:55]
ben_vulpes a smaller example: some high performance gliders will tear themselves apart if they go too fast, pete_dushenski [20:55]
adlai jfc, how about http://www.afmc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123462877 [20:56]
assbot AC-130J accident report released ... ( http://bit.ly/1T5a9pf ) [20:56]
ben_vulpes is this one of the birds nominally intended to replace the warthog? [20:56]
adlai and this still doesn't have the report itself, or say what happens to the plane... and i just ran out of distraction-minutes [20:57]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: loss of life 'costs' something, which is presumably fixed in this example, whereas 'value' of plane decreases over time, starting at $115 mn and eventually ending up at whatever the scrap is worth melted down. [20:57]
pete_dushenski along the continuum of depreciation, the net loss in the plane's 'value' will equal the 'cost' of crew life, ya ? [20:58]
adlai aha: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:s1Id4kjvxc4J:www.airforcemag.com/AircraftAccidentReports/Documents/2015/042115_AC130J_Eglin.pdf [20:58]
assbot UNITED STATES AIR FORCE AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION BOARD REPORT ... ( http://bit.ly/1T5amZB ) [20:58]
adlai "The mishap pilot (MP) was attempting to ..." << check it out, they're already slandering it on mircea_popescu [20:59]
ben_vulpes the net cost of that one incident? [21:00]
ben_vulpes or amortization schedule? [21:01]
ben_vulpes the plane is now unflyable, so in the sense that its value was "one returned crew, maybe" its value is now "not likely a returned crew". [21:02]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: net cost of one incident, yes. [21:04]
pete_dushenski on that bombshell, i'm off for the evening. happy friday and to all a good night ! [21:06]
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BingoBoingo is this one of the birds nominally intended to replace the warthog? << Compliment warthog. [21:09]
BingoBoingo F-35 is replace warthog [21:10]
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BingoBoingo !up soiled [21:31]
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BingoBoingo soiled: Are you my pants? [21:32]
soiled ... [21:32]
soiled i can be whatever you want me to be baby [21:32]
soiled bitcoin gonna go back to 250 [21:33]
soiled stock market gonna crash entering q2 next year [21:36]
soiled gold's gonna go to $10k/oz [21:37]
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soiled and i'm gonna get rich because of those things [21:42]
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adlai soiled: not unless you https://bitbet.us/new/ [21:42]
assbot New BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LbYrcM ) [21:42]
BingoBoingo Must not be my pants, they don't try to predict the future [21:42]
soiled well it's pretty obvious those things are going to happen [21:49]
soiled it's just timing that's the hard part [21:49]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328847 << actual radiologist wiht 20 years+ experience regularly gets 99.98% [21:50]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 23:28:24; pete_dushenski: top kek. 'radiologist' goes to 'skool' for 10 years+ of post-secondary, spends $bezzle in tuition, and is still no better than a garbage-eating pigeon [21:50]
BingoBoingo !down soiled pants aren't supposed to give lip like that [21:51]
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mircea_popescu the notion that 80% is something goes hand in hand with the sort of ienpt everything the orcmedia is pushing. [21:51]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328857 << 80% "gunship" [21:52]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 23:41:11; pete_dushenski: apparently flying upside-down "exceeded manufacturer's stress limits" [21:52]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328878 << hey, in the straights of iran they've flown submarines before. [21:53]
assbot Logged on 20-11-2015 23:48:57; kakobrekla: adlai if its not airworthy, are you going to dive the seas with it? [21:53]
mircea_popescu why not submarine bad uk planes. [21:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24153 @ 0.0005253 = 12.6876 BTC [+] {4} [21:59]
mircea_popescu meanwhile in the nation of africa, http://41.media.tumblr.com/0ce4a970a81ea27b8c36bd1880a66349/tumblr_n4lzssOAmA1tp96c7o1_1280.jpg [22:02]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OWUB8y ) [22:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3377 @ 0.0005229 = 1.7658 BTC [-] {2} [22:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00052561 = 13.6659 BTC [+] {3} [22:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00052307 = 9.4676 BTC [-] {2} [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31250 @ 0.00052296 = 16.3425 BTC [-] {3} [23:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24850 @ 0.00052463 = 13.0371 BTC [+] {3} [23:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23715 @ 0.00052614 = 12.4774 BTC [+] {2} [23:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33876 @ 0.00052646 = 17.8344 BTC [+] {3} [23:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00052678 = 7.4803 BTC [+] {2} [23:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.0005229 = 8.105 BTC [-] {2} [23:31]
mod6 ;;bc,stats [23:39]
gribble Current Blocks: 384549 | Current Difficulty: 6.5848255179702614E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 385055 | Next Difficulty In: 506 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [23:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45770 @ 0.00052719 = 24.1295 BTC [+] {2} [23:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.0005279 = 12.6432 BTC [+] {3} [23:49]
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