Forum logs for 20 Nov 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: a specifically american delusion was the subject of scalia's thing	[00:08]
asciilifeform	where the prisoner supposedly has a shot at 'proving innocence' all the way until the switch is flipped and the chair sizzles	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	im not aware of this	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	what is it, more pop culture ?	[00:09]
asciilifeform	in a sense	[00:09]
asciilifeform	when, e.g., the rosenbergs, sizzled, prior to the day of, telephone was installed not only in their cells but in the room containing the chair	[00:09]
asciilifeform	so there is something like actual custom behind the notion	[00:10]
asciilifeform	scalia's verdict concerned 'dna test'	[00:10]
asciilifeform	which became a thing, and a case concerned whether an already-condemned man were legally entitled to a dnatronic testing	[00:10]
asciilifeform	his opinion held that he were not.	[00:11]
asciilifeform	(scalia's, that is)	[00:11]
asciilifeform	herrera v. collins.	[00:12]
asciilifeform	or hm, no dna in this one ?	[00:14]
asciilifeform	iirc it was a factor in the decision though. that usg would be broken by the expense of being required to offer dnatronics to all death row.	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	something like that.	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	(it's deeper : that any sort of process is broken if it has to be constantly revised by "emerging" metaphysical considerations. basically he ruled that yes, we do release freeze.)	[00:16]
asciilifeform	but in doing so broke with the pretence that a trial is ~actually~ about finding of physical fact.	[00:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.000526 = 14.6754 BTC [+] {2}	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	the jury found as to the fact.	[00:18]
asciilifeform	(imagine if a judge and jury could themselves be executed, at ANY future point, if a future judge & jury were to find that the earlier had erred.)	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	...	[00:18]
asciilifeform	how would trial be conducted ?	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	this incidentally is exactly how bitbet works : once a bet has been resolved,	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	THAT RESOLUTION is the reality.	[00:18]
kakobrekla	apart from a few cases where bb fucked up.	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	not thast it never happened : it is not possible for it to have happened.	[00:19]
asciilifeform	and by same token when i start up my fortran and assign 4 to 2, the two integers become equal ?	[00:19]
*	asciilifeform wrote a lisp interpreter as a schoolboy where one could do this	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	mno.	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	there is no "same token".	[00:20]
asciilifeform	papal infallibility ?	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[00:21]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla pope ?	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	this is the absolute requisite for men to live in a world "as they wish it to be".	[00:21]
kakobrekla	iirc there was a case or two when the payment went to both sies	[00:21]
asciilifeform	pretty good pope record afaik	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	the alternative is exactly one, and it's known as "chaos" or generally other-bad-things.	[00:21]
ben_vulpes	kakobrekla is pope, mircea_popescu is god, cult transformation is complete	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	afaik kakobrekla has 0 involvement with resolutions on bitbet	[00:23]
kakobrekla	stfu pope sounds cool	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	a ok nm.	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	kakopopo	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	shit.	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	kakopope	[00:23]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu << lol it tab completes	[00:24]
ben_vulpes	OFC	[00:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13408 @ 0.000526 = 7.0526 BTC [+] {2}	[00:29]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100538 @ 0.00052093 = 52.3733 BTC [-] {4}	[00:37]
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asciilifeform	popabrekla.	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	if i ever meet his grandkids that;s what ima tell them to call him!	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	in other news, argentina has "many con chocolate", peanuts in black chocolate. fucking superb.	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	thye also have "higos con almendras", a cube of fig guts with an almond on top	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	i'll end up mayogendered and then everyone will hate me ;/	[00:52]
asciilifeform	l0l	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	for good reason too	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	BUNCHA GEALOUS POORFAGS111	[00:52]
asciilifeform	i think you need hfcs and a truck for 'mayogender'	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	i dunno dude, all my suits were 48 for 20 years, now i'm doing 52.	[00:53]
asciilifeform	and one of those wheelchair things	[00:53]
*	asciilifeform dreamed last night that he rigged an engine to his office chair and decided to never leave it again	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	cuz with dong attachment ?	[00:54]
asciilifeform	wasn't specified	[00:54]
asciilifeform	but for some reason.	[00:54]
asciilifeform	iirc it was more sloth than lust	[00:54]
*	asciilifeform has four-bit emotion register, usually mapped to sloth/greed/wrath/lust	[00:55]
ben_vulpes	heh greed	[00:56]
asciilifeform	two-bit	[00:56]
asciilifeform	motherfucker	[00:56]
*	asciilifeform prolly ought to bed	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	two extra bits for paritits.	[00:56]
ben_vulpes	hyuuu	[00:56]
asciilifeform	l0l aha	[00:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18972 @ 0.00051671 = 9.803 BTC [-] {2}	[01:00]
asciilifeform	it was a very surreal dream in a way which doesn't easily come across.	[01:02]
asciilifeform	had legs, could walk, but ~could not be arsed~	[01:02]
asciilifeform	sorta like if someone were to ask mircea_popescu to build ~his own~ gentoo etc.	[01:02]
asciilifeform	speaking of cults,	[01:08]
asciilifeform	who has seen the film 'sound of my voice' ?	[01:09]
asciilifeform	(or 'the east', by same chick - who wrote -and- lead in the film, about roughly the same thing)	[01:09]
asciilifeform	mega-filmz	[01:09]
asciilifeform	afaik she isn't in business any longer. which is imho a shame. was very much sui generis.	[01:10]
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mircea_popescu	ican't say i did	[01:16]
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punkman	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1327943 << I read story as "look we don't want you to send 100mb RAWs, or spend time processing them on your laptop, we want the pics before they are on twitter/buzzfeed/whatever"	[02:40]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 01:27:23; asciilifeform: seems like reuters bought into some idiocy where a huckster promised to distinguish one stream of bits, having the correct 'colour' (as in the essay, nothing to do with optics, but politics) from another, identical stream, having undesirable colour.	[02:40]
ben_vulpes	no lizard hitler in that interpretation, punkman	[02:44]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: i haven't disappeared anywhere.. got a bad case of pneumonia; Working on setting things back on track	[02:45]
punkman	lol http://petapixel.com/2015/11/16/photoshopped-selfie-of-sikh-man-widely-published-as-paris-terrorist/	[02:47]
assbot	Someone Photoshopped this Sikh Guy, and Now the World Thinks He's a Paris Terrorist ... ( http://bit.ly/1MYhulw )	[02:47]
punkman	now tell me that between "ethics and speed", reuters cares about ethics first	[02:49]
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mircea_popescu	o.O	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	!unrate Naphex	[02:58]
assbot	Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/9bf5f068a67164ac	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	!v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.Naphex:9e4f9cfd95defb9dc76ce1349ebd1fad72a49ef0d1d24bbb7f22bb7cfd34bbfd	[02:58]
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Naphex	mircea_popescu: have a nasty ass cold which turned into pneumonia, had to reboot my servers and take my keys out of the cold. had a bit of downtime.	[03:06]
Naphex	i'm off to bed. bbl	[03:12]
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punkman	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUH91dAWwAA2zgH.jpg:large	[04:15]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1OUqmiy )	[04:15]
punkman	looking forward to the day buzzfeed acquires AP and their "big stories"	[04:18]
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shinohai	http://ca.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/royalty/2015111928332/queen-letizia-rania-madrid/0-140-594/queen-letizia--z.jpg <<< King JC needs a new tailor.	[04:39]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1MYo4Z6 )	[04:39]
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punkman	http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/19/global-banks-blockchain-idUSL8N13E36B20151119 "R3 has also brought in bitcoin core developer Mike Hearn, as well as fincancial cryptographer Ian Grigg and bitcoin expert Tim Swanson."	[06:01]
assbot	R3 blockchain group adds 5 banks, brings in technology heavyweights	[06:01]
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punkman	https://github.com/ElementsProject/elementsproject.github.io/tree/master#segregated-witness > https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/commits/segwit	[06:22]
assbot	ElementsProject/elementsproject.github.io · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OixKkB )	[06:22]
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assbot	Commits · sipa/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OixIt2 )	[06:22]
punkman	"Potential for more efficient SPV output creation proofs (used by lightweight clients), as the signatures can be omitted from the transaction data without breaking the Merkle tree structure. Potential for nodes that do not wish to store or verify old transaction signatures, to remove the witness data from disk or not transfer it at all even, reducing blockchain storage/bandwidth amounts by a large factor"	[06:23]
punkman	the latest pill against malleability	[06:24]
adlai	"latest"?	[06:24]
punkman	"Commits on Nov 20, 2015 "	[06:25]
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punkman	https://peerj.com/preprints/1515v1/	[08:57]
assbot	Software development: do good manners matter? [PeerJ PrePrints] ... ( http://bit.ly/1XdWvAI )	[08:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 478 @ 0.00313073 = 1.4965 BTC [+] {7}	[09:15]
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jurov	!t m x.eur	[09:28]
assbot	[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00311983 / 0.00312828 / 0.00324912 (627 shares, 1.96 BTC), 7D: 0.00311983 / 0.0031757 / 0.00333647 (1393 shares, 4.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00286166 / 0.00366047 / 0.00430867 (6913 shares, 25.30 BTC)	[09:28]
jurov	;;calc 1/0.00312828	[09:29]
gribble	319.664480162	[09:29]
jurov	;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoincentral	[09:29]
gribble	Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker \| Best bid: 300.0, Best ask: 304.5, Bid-ask spread: 4.50000, Last trade: 302.0, 24 hour volume: 105.5782488, 24 hour low: 298.7, 24 hour high: 314.98999999, 24 hour vwap: 304.33510007	[09:29]
*	mircea_popescu enters into the record that had naphex moved to argentina last year he wouldn't have had pneumonia this year.	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	it's never been under 10 here. like ever.	[09:36]
jurov	here in balkans it wasn't under 10 in last half year, either	[09:43]
mircea_popescu	what's half year do for you, you're not moth-lived are you.	[09:43]
*	punkman is wearing shorts and has all the windows open	[09:44]
punkman	(there are people walking around with coats outside)	[09:45]
mircea_popescu	looking forward to the day buzzfeed acquires AP and their "big stories" << won't be long now. then they can all sell to some derpy "we make money while sleeping" spam outfit that slashdot got sold to.	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	and don't even get me started on the topic of the spanish rohohoyals. they have magazines here, it's all the chickies read, they keep going on and on about the noblesse refinement and you know, bla bla of the juan carlos clan. and the pictures... my god, the pictures.	[09:48]
punkman	didn't know spanish royalty fans existed until today	[09:48]
mircea_popescu	but what difference does it make, right ? let the squaw chew her squaw candy thinking it's ambrosia, who cares what happens in the colonies and territories at the ends of the earth.	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha tim swanson is a bitcoin expert now ?	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	he has a certificate of unexpertise duly issued like last year.	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	the latest pill against malleability << no, the latest in "gotta serve the customer" because "customer has come to expect" that "he just wants to".	[09:50]
mircea_popescu	"The more polite developers were, the less time it took to fix an issue. In the majority of the analysed cases, the more developers wanted to be part of a project, the more they were willing to continue working on the project over time."	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck are these dumb shits, seriously.	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	i wish to know, what qualifies Giuseppe Destefanis, Marco Ortu, Steve Counsell, Michele Marchesi or Roberto Tonelli to discuss the matter, at all.	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	what makes they believe they understand enough of anything to trust themselves to make a decent model of the thing they purport to study, so as to measure something meaningful and construct conclusions worth considering.	[09:53]
BingoBoingo	i wish to know, what qualifies Giuseppe Destefanis, Marco Ortu, Steve Counsell, Michele Marchesi or Roberto Tonelli to discuss the matter, at all. << Their open sore ass	[09:53]
mircea_popescu	i do not seem to remember any name associated in a managerial capacity with any successful project ever.	[09:53]
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mircea_popescu	who the fuck told twentysomething derps that they can create pseudoscience out of their ass, i wish to know.	[09:53]
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punkman	how long until someone quotes this to Linus	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	and check it out, in order to leave a http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328186 < read the logs. you gotta... "Sign up"	[09:55]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 12:48:07; mircea_popescu: "The more polite developers were, the less time it took to fix an issue. In the majority of the analysed cases, the more developers wanted to be part of a project, the more they were willing to continue working on the project over time."	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	well done, team derp.	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	punkman someone, never will, by definition of someone.	[09:55]
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jurov	http://bestmobs.com/13mp-pepsi-p1s-smartphone-launched-with-fingerprint-scanner/ " The smartphone named Pepsi Phone P1S which produced by Shenzhen Scooby Communication Equipment Co. Ltd has been launched in China."	[10:37]
assbot	13MP Pepsi P1S smartphone launched with fingerprint scanner ... ( http://bit.ly/1LqkiGX )	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/0GGN97F	[10:55]
assbot	dpaste: 0GGN97F ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lqm9eG )	[10:55]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: neato. would work.	[11:01]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328151 << wut??!!!	[11:03]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 09:19:46; punkman: "Potential for more efficient SPV output creation proofs (used by lightweight clients), as the signatures can be omitted from the transaction data without breaking the Merkle tree structure. Potential for nodes that do not wish to store or verify old transaction signatures, to remove the witness data from disk or not transfer it at all even, reducing blockchain storage/bandwidth amounts	[11:03]
asciilifeform	'Potential for nodes that do not wish to store or verify old transaction signatures' << didja know we 'needed' this ?? i certainly didn't	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	think of africa!	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	biafracoin!	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	financial revolutions by poor people for poor people	[11:04]
asciilifeform	hivrapewithsandlubricantcoin	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	and assorted insanities.	[11:04]
asciilifeform	muticoin.	[11:05]
mircea_popescu	afrikaans reads exactly like crazy fucking idish on pcp	[11:06]
asciilifeform	sure does	[11:06]
asciilifeform	iirc it is to dutch approx. as ua is to ru	[11:07]
mircea_popescu	almost like some baltic fishermen read a book of jokes (soory i mean joeks) and went "what the fuck is this platdeustch bs! HERE IS HOW REAL MEN SAY IT!"	[11:07]
adlai	!b 4	[11:08]
assbot	Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2FB3DDT.txt )	[11:08]
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mircea_popescu	from that other chan :	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	prolly it would be for the best to track those numbers down too , but really the list is already longer than my both arms :p	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	go to alf, take shiva lessons.	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	see, i recommend people for employment!	[11:28]
asciilifeform	l0lz	[11:28]
BingoBoingo	!b 5	[11:28]
assbot	Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2TWA3ZS.txt )	[11:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66200 @ 0.00051318 = 33.9725 BTC [-] {3}	[11:28]
*	asciilifeform still picking self up off the floor after reading the signatureless-tx thing	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	you don't understand how the world works!	[11:29]
asciilifeform	clearly!	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	the merkle tree is signed! by visa!	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	why do you need bitcoin anyway ? we're here in bitcoin to barnacle innovation into the same old soup! hear us roar!	[11:30]
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asciilifeform	imprinted with the anal seal of his scaly majesty's own tail !	[11:30]
mircea_popescu	anyway, this is how it works. extend the franchise, import the poor, pretend it's just as much x as the real x, on it goes.	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	what, bitcoin is a pill against exactly this ? HA!	[11:32]
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asciilifeform	;;bc,stats	[11:33]
gribble	Current Blocks: 384468 \| Current Difficulty: 6.5848255179702614E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 385055 \| Next Difficulty In: 587 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 17 hours, 43 minutes, and 56 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: None \| Estimated Percent Change: None	[11:34]
*	asciilifeform observes that his trb nodes have been 10-20 blx steadily behind latest-known, for at least a week	[11:34]
mircea_popescu	384468 here.	[11:34]
mircea_popescu	methinks you suck.	[11:34]
asciilifeform	no shit	[11:34]
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asciilifeform	anyone else operating trb within the reich seeing same ?	[11:35]
asciilifeform	and hm, it's just this one box	[11:37]
asciilifeform	bucephalus has kept up.	[11:37]
asciilifeform	60 peers.	[11:37]
asciilifeform	uptime == 60 days as of present time.	[11:37]
jurov	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328220 << trade on eulora, play on mpex! (r) (tm)	[11:38]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 14:24:14; mircea_popescu: prolly it would be for the best to track those numbers down too , but really the list is already longer than my both arms :p	[11:38]
asciilifeform	keel.btc.petertodd.org << had no idea this was a thing.	[11:42]
asciilifeform	isn't he a bootlick of hitler's ?	[11:42]
asciilifeform	doesn't accept incoming sockets, either	[11:43]
asciilifeform	just eats at other folks' tables, yes.	[11:43]
BingoBoingo	isn't he a bootlick of hitler's ? << He seems exceedingly comfortable consorting with confirmed bootlickers	[11:44]
asciilifeform	http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/19/us-usa-immigration-mexico-idUSKCN0T82F220151119 << l0lz	[11:51]
assbot	More Mexican immigrants leaving U.S. than entering: Pew	[11:51]
asciilifeform	and from same fishwrap,	[11:53]
asciilifeform	http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/13/us-pennsylvania-play-idUSKCN0T207N20151113	[11:53]
assbot	Pennsylvania college cancels play after author objects to white actors	[11:53]
asciilifeform	'When he saw the cast photos earlier this month, he demanded through Blickers to know the ethnicity of the actors, she said. "I couldn't stop myself from crying when I saw the photos and realized what was happening," Suh wrote in his e-mail.'	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	what is all this monetization of crying in the us ?	[11:55]
asciilifeform	nfi. perhaps they bottle the tearz ?	[11:55]
mircea_popescu	seems everyone's trying to get himself a spot in the consideration line by the quality and quantity of tears they dispensed, all of a sudden.	[11:55]
mircea_popescu	as if THAT is the relevant thing, that o mai gawd someone cried.	[11:55]
mircea_popescu	who gives a shit and why would they ?	[11:55]
asciilifeform	al schwartz's 'victimhood olympics'	[11:55]
mircea_popescu	ridoinculous. all the tears you can muster and five dollars buys you a cup of coffee	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	provided the shop's open.	[11:56]
asciilifeform	very salty coffee	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	no, they give you a special plate for tears. don't have to cry straight in the cup like fucking savages.	[11:56]
deedbot-	[Qntra] EU Planning Bitcoin "Crackdown" - http://qntra.net/2015/11/eu-planning-bitcoin-crackdown/	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	lolwut	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	now i can't write the article i was gonna write because i gotta read the article he actually wrote	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	I HAVE TEARS IN MY EYES	[11:57]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Derp outlets were running pieces on this.	[11:57]
BingoBoingo	lol	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	why isn't it crackup anyway ?	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	isn't down racist ?	[11:57]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: ordnance	[11:57]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: fxd	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	"In the United States where mass shootings are far more common knee jerk reactions typically consist of proposals for new restrictions on firearms, though in Paris, France, and much of the EU more stringent firearms regulations are practically impossible due to the existing draconian restrictions" loller	[11:58]
BingoBoingo	why isn't it crackup anyway ? << Crackup happens after crackdown. Tears feed laughter.	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	not bad.	[11:59]
BingoBoingo	tty	[11:59]
asciilifeform	so, davout in coke machine yet ?	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	thanks god reading is faster than writing.	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	poor davout is probably glaring down more and more little karpeleses	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	france's fulla 'em.	[11:59]
davout	was	[11:59]
davout	what coke machine which karpelii?	[11:59]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: You prolly still oughtta write. You anger levels still seem awfully high after those days without Trilema for venting your ragehol.	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	davout the coke machine is this putative alf-proposed torturing device to extract bitcoin out of people. he's twisted like that.	[12:00]
asciilifeform	davout: it was, i think, in old thread. it's a kind of iron box where you lock a man and he only gets to eat (corn syrup, by the litre) while he enters valid btc private keys and the cumulative balance not yet exhausted.	[12:01]
davout	interesting	[12:01]
davout	i only remember asciilifeform's rectal heater thing	[12:01]
asciilifeform	also available with optional rectal module	[12:01]
BingoBoingo	also optimal rectal module	[12:03]
asciilifeform	other optional modules available are 'mercytron', which releases hcn gas when address printed on outside of machine is loaded with certain coin; or even 'ransomatron', which opens the lock if a certain coin arrives...	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	and continuig thing, "fuckurmommatron", which delivers gaoler's mother when idem, and so on.	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	as the wise jew once noted, "there's a blessing for anything". ie, there's always a good something to say.	[12:05]
asciilifeform	aha. inquire at dealership for full catalogue.	[12:05]
jurov	what's the advantage over waterboarding?	[12:05]
mircea_popescu	pretty much the only valid covenant.	[12:05]
asciilifeform	jurov: no need for skilled labour	[12:05]
asciilifeform	jurov: and robot can't be bribed or bought, nor 'leaks'	[12:05]
asciilifeform	(unless the gaskets have worn through)	[12:06]
punkman	horses are cheaper than machine	[12:06]
mircea_popescu	whores cheaper than horses.	[12:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68815 @ 0.00051421 = 35.3854 BTC [+] {3}	[12:07]
punkman	http://2static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/99/57/995795_5616585.jpg	[12:08]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1PR07bj )	[12:09]
*	BingoBoingo hates to pay holiday rates for seekrits extraction mechanic	[12:09]
davout	asciilifeform: robots can be ssh'd into	[12:09]
jurov	"robot can't be bribed or bought, nor 'leaks'" << the waterboarding stage is just one stage of whole scheme	[12:09]
punkman	http://2static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/89/dc/89dcce_5616585.jpg	[12:09]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1PR08Mq )	[12:10]
jurov	you'd need robots to autonomously hunt and extract suspects, etc.	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	can we have this in sci-fi ?	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	http://2new4.fjcdn.com/pictures/Corrupted_4d9927_5616585.jpg ahahaha great	[12:18]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1PR0DpV )	[12:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37313 @ 0.00051282 = 19.1349 BTC [-] {3}	[12:18]
BingoBoingo	http://2new4.fjcdn.com/pictures/Corrupted_4d9927_5616585.jpg ahahaha great << Should have watched his prolactin, but good for him embracing the gyno	[12:22]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1PR0DpV )	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	aha	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	that was originally one of the boring disney chicks neh ?	[12:22]
BingoBoingo	I think one of the disney dudes	[12:25]
BingoBoingo	But who can really tell	[12:25]
punkman	he's the bad guy in beauty and the beast	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	oh.	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	i tho0ught it was the blondie.	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	my great is hereby withdrawn.	[12:27]
mircea_popescu	what is the blondie anyway ? rapunzel ?	[12:27]
punkman	beauty is a brunette iirc	[12:29]
mircea_popescu	i thought that was snow white.	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	they got an eastern chick in salvari, a redhead which i dun recall what she was	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	and a blondie	[12:30]
BingoBoingo	https://i.sli.mg/telrut.jpg << re: charlie sheen	[12:31]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1S8SU5Q )	[12:31]
punkman	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ2dI_B_Ycg pogo defense system	[12:31]
assbot	'Littlebits' 'Arduino' knife-wielding tentacle - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8SV9G )	[12:31]
BingoBoingo	And people though Mizzou was racis http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/white-student-union-challenges-black-lives-matter-at-university-of/article_52b015d1-23de-5912-8eeb-71e1436d00c8.html	[12:35]
assbot	'White Student Union' challenges Black Lives Matter at University of Illinois : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1PR1Ygk )	[12:35]
BingoBoingo	"for white students of University of Illinois to be able to form a community and discuss our own issues as well as be able to organize against the terrorism we have been facing from Black Lives Matter activists on campus,"	[12:36]
BingoBoingo	"a safe place for White students,"	[12:36]
trinque	let the record state that the white students can piss their pants better, longer, wetter than the black students, lest anyone be confused.	[12:39]
*	mircea_popescu recalls what he said.	[12:39]
mircea_popescu	the us blacks are headed to the smoke stacks.	[12:40]
BingoBoingo	thestringpuller: Now'd probably be a safe time to move to Argentina	[12:41]
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mircea_popescu	so BingoBoingo i can't locate a quote	[12:46]
BingoBoingo	Which quote?	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	some orc screamed at some prof something to the effect of "this is not about intellectual freedom, this is about making a home, do you get that"	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	in the recent missouri rebellion of the lazy and the stupid against work.	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	dja have it ?	[12:46]
BingoBoingo	Should be able to dig it up soon. The prof's name was "Click"	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	lol	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	ty	[12:47]
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BingoBoingo	Allegedly the video, but its youtube so eh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRlRAyulN4o	[12:52]
assbot	#ConcernedStudent1950 vs the media - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8VN6s )	[12:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67339 @ 0.00051163 = 34.4527 BTC [-] {6}	[12:53]
*	assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski	[12:53]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: https://web.archive.org/web/20151107010454/http://yaleherald.com/op-eds/hurt-at-home/	[12:53]
assbot	Hurt at home - The Yale Herald ... ( http://bit.ly/1HC0MXq )	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	sveet.	[12:54]
pete_dushenski	"We are supposed to feel encouraged to go to our Master and Associate Master with our concerns and feel that our opinions will be respected and heard."	[12:54]
pete_dushenski	"But, in his ten weeks as a leader of the college, Master Christakis has not fostered this sense of community. He seems to lack the ability, quite frankly, to put aside his opinions long enough to listen to the very real hurt that the community feels. He doesn’t get it. And I don’t want to debate. I want to talk about my pain."	[12:54]
pete_dushenski	"They have failed to acknowledge the hurt and pain that such a large part of our community feel. They have again and again shown that they are committed to an ideal of free speech, not to the Silliman community."	[12:54]
pete_dushenski	etc.	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	im not giving jencey-nobody the time of day.	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	"This is not about creating an intellectual space! Do you get that ? It’s about creating a home here!"	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	is what it was.	[12:55]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Yale can start mattering when it plays in an actual footbal conference instead of that bullshit poof Ivy League shit	[12:55]
pete_dushenski	why would softies want to bash heads with tried and true orcs again ?	[12:56]
pete_dushenski	to prove something ?	[12:56]
BingoBoingo	Of course	[12:57]
pete_dushenski	mkay prove what ? that brawn > brain ?	[12:58]
BingoBoingo	To prove that they really aren't scared of those "urban" kids who go to state schools	[12:59]
BingoBoingo	And to prove that their use of "summer" as a verb doesn't make them idiots	[13:00]
pete_dushenski	but yale kidz ARE scared, they ARE idiots. but even still, even if they weren't, why does the (slightly retarded) hawk have to prove anything to the fox ?	[13:02]
BingoBoingo	The truth of the matter is that the Yale kids wish they were cool enough to go to LSU or Alabama	[13:02]
pete_dushenski	why's that ? what's the attraction at lsu or 'bama ?	[13:03]
pete_dushenski	hotter tail ?	[13:03]
BingoBoingo	hotter tail, better parties, and less crushing pressure to be their own grandparents a few decades too early	[13:04]
pete_dushenski	o noes, the pressure to be an adult ! lol	[13:05]
BingoBoingo	Because why live in a residence hall called a "college" with a surgeon calling himself "master" when you can go to West Fucking Virginia and burn couches?	[13:05]
deedbot-	[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Alf, the lathe dog. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/20/alf-the-lathe-dog/	[13:05]
BingoBoingo	;;google west fucking virginia couch burning	[13:05]
gribble	"West Fuckin Virginia" T-Shirts - Deadspin: ; Morgantown Banned Outdoor Couches To Stop West Virginia ...: ; [Post Game Thread] West (1 more message)	[13:05]
BingoBoingo	"West Virginia has become infamous for couch burning. The Morgantown City Council is attempting to put a stop to it. A new city ordinance will ban upholstered furniture from being kept outdoors. The city claims there have been more than 3,000 such fires in the last decade."	[13:06]
pete_dushenski	that's barely one couch fire a day. pff.	[13:06]
pete_dushenski	http://www.techinsider.io/ketchup-leather-is-the-ultimate-burger-sogginess-solution-2015-11	[13:07]
assbot	Ketchup Leather is the ultimate burger sogginess solution - Tech Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8XUY1 )	[13:07]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: You can't count every day though. Just the six fall days with home games.	[13:08]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328122 << get well soon !	[13:09]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 05:41:35; Naphex: mircea_popescu: i haven't disappeared anywhere.. got a bad case of pneumonia; Working on setting things back on track	[13:09]
BingoBoingo	comes out to 50 per home football game, excluding that ones that don't get caught	[13:09]
BingoBoingo	Colonist problems http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/11/scurvy_is_common_and_should_be_diagnosed_and_treated.html	[13:11]
assbot	Scurvy is common and should be diagnosed and treated. ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8YDIM )	[13:11]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo: and these couch fires make non-yale skools more attractive how again ?	[13:11]
phf	if i were to take an issuing certificate (say, google's GIAG2), convert it from der to pem, and then feed the pem to openssl s_client -CAfile, then assuming that whatever i'm connecting to has been issued by the ca, everything should just work?	[13:12]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Because you aren't fucking lighting a couch on fire UNLESS you are partying hard	[13:12]
phf	pete_dushenski: you don't get it, it's real life, man, not those yale faggits	[13:12]
pete_dushenski	or because you get to hang out with a buncha other 20 yo who are also 12 yo boys who think fire is "neat" and "dangerous" ?	[13:12]
pete_dushenski	faggits secretly haet themselves. obv.	[13:13]
pete_dushenski	must be moar like party orcs. HOW NOT !!1	[13:13]
BingoBoingo	It's because the lower party members at Yale can and MUST envy the relative freedom of the proles	[13:13]
pete_dushenski	not so.	[13:14]
BingoBoingo	Necessary. Being beyond that resentment if for upper party members who pointedly do not go to Yale	[13:15]
pete_dushenski	being an idiot slave to what you perceive is a worthwhile master can perfectly compensate for the lack of freedom.	[13:15]
BingoBoingo	Who at Yale finds that compensation?	[13:15]
pete_dushenski	perception is reality	[13:15]
pete_dushenski	these 'lower party members' know not where else to look for 'social mobility'	[13:15]
pete_dushenski	even if 'social mobility' is just luck	[13:16]
pete_dushenski	http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/01/american-social-mobility-is-really-just-luck-says-data/ << see thread	[13:16]
assbot	American “social mobility” is really just luck, says data. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNArGT )	[13:16]
BingoBoingo	Then why do so many want to leave their rat maze to "become writers" or "urban homestead"	[13:16]
BingoBoingo	The Yale strata of the USian population wants exactly the life of being poor, but without the continentcy of actually being poor	[13:17]
BingoBoingo	Because they already think themselves rich and not very good at it	[13:18]
pete_dushenski	why do so many want to leave their rat maze to "become writers" << because kool kids flirt with writers and lend them the air of importance they so desperately desire	[13:18]
pete_dushenski	better than moneys	[13:18]
pete_dushenski	yale strata are middle class, yes, imprisoned, yes, but look upwards and behave as they THINK they would if they were upper classmen	[13:19]
pete_dushenski	so, no swearing, as per http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/28/how-to-tell-if-youre-middle-class/	[13:19]
assbot	How to tell if you’re middle class. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1QSVdeH )	[13:19]
pete_dushenski	(who knew this was becoming my area of anthropological expertise)	[13:20]
pete_dushenski	s/anthropological/entomological	[13:20]
BingoBoingo	But they also look down with envy	[13:21]
mircea_popescu	hotter tail, better parties, and less crushing pressure to be their own grandparents a few decades too early << the latter. yes. they're regressed to mean and expected to outperform exceptional talent selected by exceptional luck.	[13:21]
mircea_popescu	glhf.	[13:21]
BingoBoingo	The look at Arizona State students and are totes jelly that they can't bikini spring break at the lake every weekend.	[13:22]
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mircea_popescu	arizona state, only state.	[13:22]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo: perhaps, but still, never the twain shall meet. they're different sorts of kidz. yale kidz might want to party hard, but they'll do m/blow/raves, not couch burning and fist-fighting.	[13:22]
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mircea_popescu	(ftr, me went to a highschool that had a spa across the road. summertime, the better tail was across teh street)	[13:23]
funkenstein_	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328381 <-- because Oxford	[13:23]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 16:01:25; BingoBoingo: Because why live in a residence hall called a "college" with a surgeon calling himself "master" when you can go to West Fucking Virginia and burn couches?	[13:23]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: But they will KNOW that they aren't partying very hard	[13:24]
pete_dushenski	lol such bullshit. you been to a proper rave ?	[13:24]
pete_dushenski	you'll be a zombie for DAYS after a good rave.	[13:24]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Nah, but neither have Yale kids. Only one letter away from rape, much triggers.	[13:24]
pete_dushenski	possibru, this.	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	rape at the rave ?	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	there's penis missing!	[13:25]
*	pete_dushenski has not seen yale campus with own eyes.	[13:25]
funkenstein_	BingoBoingo, exceptions to that verified	[13:25]
BingoBoingo	mebbe	[13:26]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: very few rapes at raves. mucho amor para todos. easy lovin'.	[13:27]
mircea_popescu	aha	[13:27]
mircea_popescu	also can't really get it up.	[13:27]
pete_dushenski	with 'm' for sure	[13:27]
shinohai	pete_dushenski: ever seen that film Go ?	[13:28]
pete_dushenski	don't think 'ghb' (aka. date rape drug, but taken voluntarily!!!!) has same flaccidifying effect	[13:28]
pete_dushenski	shinohai: no ?	[13:28]
BingoBoingo	Isn't this what easy internet viagra is for?	[13:28]
shinohai	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139239/ <<< best rave depiction	[13:29]
assbot	Go (1999) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1S91iCg )	[13:29]
pete_dushenski	lol jay mohr's in it	[13:30]
shinohai	Very much worth a view if drug-induced boredom strikes you.	[13:31]
deedbot-	[Trilema] Internoc24, or : the crisis, and its resolution - http://trilema.com/2015/internoc24-or-the-crisis-and-its-resolution/	[13:34]
mircea_popescu	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-m-parsons/message-to-my-freshman-st_b_7275016.html << i find the admixture of wishful thinking and budding classism actually quite endearing. like a 15yo's first sexual blush.	[13:35]
assbot	Message to My Freshman Students \| Keith M. Parsons ... ( http://bit.ly/1QSXW7X )	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	check it out, next thing you know "hogwash" is going to turn into the sound of a cane, and "You, on the other hand, come to my classes fresh from a culture with different values, one that finds academic ways strange and hard to understand." is going to become "drop the stupid, this isn't the place for it".	[13:35]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell asciilifeform betcha never thought 'lathe dog' would conjure up ~this~ image ;) http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/20/alf-the-lathe-dog/	[13:36]
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assbot	Alf, the lathe dog. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1QSY47F )	[13:36]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: adorable watching them grow up, isn't it !	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	especially the most endearing part of it all, their deeply imprinted conviction that they're special, different, experiencing the world privately and personally.	[13:37]
phf	that's just silly, wealthy people by definition have an easy access to a wider range of experiences. i'm sure there are pathological cases of "mother would be displeased", but in my experience downward mobile ivy have easy time integrating themselves into whatever cultures.	[13:38]
mircea_popescu	phf quote this definition for my benefit ?	[13:39]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: btw i checked the golf course irrigation math and did some more data digging : 1.2 metres of 'rainfall' is simulated in the ~average~ southwest u.s. golf course. so 2.0 metres+ in, say, palm springs is well within reason.	[13:40]
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mircea_popescu	myeah. i come from a place where irrigation is measured in added cm. crops requiring 20 or more are seen as uneconomical.	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	but hey, the world's bigger than transylvania	[13:41]
phf	it's poor turn of phrase, but in this case i meant that wealth lets you find solutions to logistical problems	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	you haven't just said "by definition" without actually having a definition in mind have you ? tsk tsk.	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	anyway : you can only solve problems you perceive as problems.	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	wealth insulates from the perception of problems, which is how you end up with the jewish princess.	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	she doesn't even know she's annyoing.	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	she wouldn't be, ironically, if anyone had told her off when she was 12 and it was easy to change	[13:42]
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mircea_popescu	now she's 25 and it takes a shitload of beatings and tears to achieve the same effect.	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	i blame the parents, even as i beat their offspring.	[13:43]
pete_dushenski	and the jap's parents smile to themselves knowingly as a result	[13:43]
pete_dushenski	comforted by the knowledge that they COULDN'T HAVE DONE BETTER	[13:44]
pete_dushenski	seems reasonably adaptive, this strategy.	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	everything that doesn't put your own ass on the line is reasonably adaptive, sure.	[13:44]
pete_dushenski	thusly viewed, judaism makes sense !	[13:45]
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phf	well, wealth eliminates problems, higher up the scale you go, less things are problems, with some maximums like the jewish princess, or other stereotypes like a completely out of teach rich person. my point is there is long tale of sufficiently wealthy people who can hang out with rednecks, and then hop on a plane to goa for a month	[13:49]
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thestringpuller	<+BingoBoingo> thestringpuller: Now'd probably be a safe time to move to Argentina << I wanted to check out japan first where they adore the negros for some reason or another. Or at least from what I can gather from Kareem Abdul Jabars auto biographical works of living there on stints with Bruce Lee.	[13:52]
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mircea_popescu	mo money mo problems.	[14:01]
punkman	https://instagram.com/smokincigs23/	[14:04]
assbot	@smokincigs23 • Instagram photos and videos ... ( http://bit.ly/1T48G2F )	[14:04]
thestringpuller	<+mircea_popescu> mo money mo problems. << didn't take mp for a biggie fan	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	i mostly smoke 2nd hand.	[14:08]
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phf	only so many bugatti rims one can buy	[14:13]
phf	i'm going to stick to my cultural heritage, gold chains, rolex and adidas	[14:14]
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ascii_field	meanwhile in the land of ze phree,	[14:16]
ascii_field	http://www.wired.com/2015/11/carnegie-mellon-denies-fbi-paid-for-tor-breaking-research	[14:16]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1T4aIzF )	[14:16]
ascii_field	'In a terse statement Wednesday, Carnegie Mellon wrote that its Software Engineering Institute hadn’t received any direct payment for its Tor research from the FBI or any other government funder. But it instead implied that the research may have been accessed by law enforcement through the use of a subpoena. “In the course of its work, the university from time to time is served with subpoenas requesting informat	[14:16]
ascii_field	ion about research it has performed,” the statement reads. “The university abides by the rule of law, complies with lawfully issued subpoenas and receives no funding for its compliance.”'	[14:16]
trinque	phf │ i'm going to stick to my cultural heritage, gold chains, rolex and adidas << I hereby invoke "pix or didn't happen"	[14:18]
trinque	it'll be some kind of ru thug quinceanera	[14:20]
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jurov	phf forgot gold teeth	[14:22]
ascii_field	and '600'	[14:22]
phf	ствол is the most important part of course	[14:27]
ascii_field	aha!	[14:27]
*	ascii_field always found this interesting, how you shoot from a 'barrel' in engl, but from ствол -- 'trunk' (as in tree) in ru	[14:28]
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jurov	"hlaveň" - "head part" in slovak	[14:30]
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gabrielradio	!rate kakobrekla 3 everything went smooth on bit4x	[14:37]
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gabrielradio	;;later tell pete_dushenski http://dpaste.com/1H2Q7YJ#wrap	[14:38]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328457 << nifty	[14:42]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 16:32:17; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform betcha never thought 'lathe dog' would conjure up ~this~ image ;) http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/20/alf-the-lathe-dog/	[14:42]
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ascii_field	;;later tell mircea_popescu '20GB with 2x 1000 GB non-SATA HDD' << ??? >> didja mean it? really, PATA ? or meant to say 'ssd' ?	[14:49]
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BingoBoingo	From the mines: "There's actually only a finite amount of olive oil in the world. All the natural stuff was used up by the late 1700's. The stuff you're eating now has actually been recycled from obese Greek fishermen. There island of Naxos holds a festival every year wherein fishermen with a BMI over 40 are rolled into huge presses called 'Obesitinia' and then slowly crushed, releasing their fragrant oils. "	[15:01]
punkman	wut	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field meant to say ssd. he wtfs me on it later on.	[15:06]
BingoBoingo	punkman: Isn't that how it works?	[15:08]
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punkman	BingoBoingo: plausible, if you are familiar with the fragrance of the olive oil mill	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	stol, in romanian, is a flock (like of birds)	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	lol good oil.	[15:25]
thestringpuller	wow reading the footnotes on the new trilema took me straight into idiocracy	[15:25]
thestringpuller	it's an epidemic with no cure.	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	in other news : no fisherman ever, in the lengthy history of htat trade, was obese.	[15:26]
punkman	eh	[15:26]
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mircea_popescu	that was the objection to spencery tracy in old man and the sea : too plump	[15:26]
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trinque	thestringpuller: reminded me of the rabbi and the ewe too; that was a good footnote.	[15:29]
BingoBoingo	But, But... Underrepresented! Muh Feels!	[15:29]
phf	i like to do overnight trips with local fishermen at whatever exotic locations i go to, and i can say that most of the time you burn calories by simply sitting in the cold (not to mention stabilization, or actual work)	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	or heavy protein intake, or poverty.	[15:33]
thestringpuller	;;google black people can't be racist	[15:34]
gribble	"black people cannot be racist": the difference between prejudice ...: ; MTV Says Black People Can't Be Racist - YouTube: ; Black People Can't Be Racist - YouTube:	[15:34]
deedbot-	[Qntra] Venture Capital Fuels Stupidity In Bitcoin Not Innovation - http://qntra.net/2015/11/venture-capital-fuels-stupidity-in-bitcoin-not-innovation/	[15:35]
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jurov	http://www.neuroscientistnews.com/clinical-updates/one-very-brainy-bird unrelated,but maybe... what about startup to use pigeons as bitcoin traders?	[16:01]
assbot	One very brainy bird \| Neuroscientist News ... ( http://bit.ly/1kLogVK )	[16:01]
punkman	isn't that what buttfinex does	[16:01]
jurov	darn	[16:02]
jurov	"Even distant relatives—like people and pigeons—are adept at perceiving and categorizing the complex visual patterns that are presented in pathology and radiology images,	[16:02]
jurov	(wait for this)	[16:02]
jurov	surely a task for which nature has not specifically prepared us."	[16:02]
jurov	no complex visual pattern recognition for ya!!!1	[16:04]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	!s fractal	[16:07]
assbot	1526 results for 'fractal' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fractal	[16:07]
jurov	medicine already prepping for the day most of the population will be diabetes-blind	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	other things "surely nature has not specifically prepared us" for : movement detection, gradient orientation and other bacteria-level tech.	[16:09]
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mircea_popescu	it's just accidentally a feature of life ever singe octopi came about a bazillion years ago, with their barely functional eye.	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	otherwise, obama invented perceiving and categorizing complex visual patterns	[16:10]
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gabrielradio	http://committingsociology.com/2015/11/18/colorblindness-and-cynicism/	[16:27]
assbot	Colorblindness and Cynicism \| Committing Sociology ... ( http://bit.ly/1kLseOa )	[16:27]
gabrielradio	'the colorblind can see through many kinds of camouflage. Because they’re not distracted by colors, they can often see the contours of a thing—it’s outline—with unusual clarity. Even so, despite this upside, being colorblind is, on balance, a net handicap to the colorblind individual. They’re missing out on a great deal.'	[16:27]
gabrielradio	'Cynics (...) who are especially good at seeing through bullshit pay dearly for their gift. I suspect that being able to see past nuance comes at a cost. The ability to rapidly reduce complicated moral questions into simple either/or propositions is probably a function of an absence. To wit: the moral clarity of most cynics is probably a function of some sort of emotional colorblindness.'	[16:27]
deedbot-	[Trilema] Fellow zoologists! - http://trilema.com/2015/fellow-zoologists/	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	what is this, feelscience ?	[16:32]
thestringpuller	what is with this war on cash?	[16:33]
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thestringpuller	buddy just called me up and said police confiscated 500 bucks cash he was holding to spend during the weekend since he doesn't like using debit cards.	[16:34]
thestringpuller	"this is going to be used for a crime we need to take this"	[16:34]
trinque	lol it's not a war on cash; he got robbed!	[16:35]
trinque	they love cash	[16:35]
thestringpuller	i mean it's his fault for keeping it in the open so cop was like "what's with that roll of 20's there"	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	yeah, it's his fault for having money. seems legit.	[16:36]
thestringpuller	i kno right. and if he goes to court to try and get the money back they'll be like "nope."	[16:37]
thestringpuller	damn shame.	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	next time, bust a cap in cop's ass before gets chance to open mouth.	[16:38]
thestringpuller	http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/TheVirginiaTechShooter/gifs/ani_wayne-brady-cop-killer.gif << I suppose I should since Wayne Brady is more gangster than I could ever be.	[16:40]
thestringpuller	When I get pulled over tends to go like, "You were speeding." "Sure" "Okay here's ticket. Uh you have dreads are you high." "Uh no." "Okay have fun be safe."	[16:41]
thestringpuller	Suburbia has it's perks.	[16:41]
deedbot-	[Qntra] Every Tesla Model S Recalled Over Safety Equipment Failure - http://qntra.net/2015/11/every-tesla-model-s-recalled-over-safety-equipment-failure/	[16:42]
thestringpuller	BingoBoingo: documentd >> documented	[16:43]
BingoBoingo	fxd	[16:43]
punkman	"In early November, a customer sitting in the front passenger seat turned to speak with occupants in the rear and the seat belt became disconnected"	[16:44]
punkman	ffs	[16:44]
thestringpuller	so what a billion dollars of cars is being recalled?	[16:45]
punkman	"but we estimate the cost is not material and shows Tesla’s heightened focus on safety,” said Ben Kallo"	[16:45]
punkman	yes you recall all your cars, but cost not material	[16:45]
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jurov	i guess they can drive themselves to service	[16:53]
BingoBoingo	Sure just put the destination in the autopilot, set a brick on the prissy pedal and wait for it to come home.	[16:54]
jurov	lol actually that's the future. cars will come barely working with obligation to leave them every other night go for "bugfixes"	[16:55]
BingoBoingo	https://i.imgur.com/nKSjTGa.png << Mayospiration	[16:55]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/cats-cucumbers-scared-video-1.3327174	[17:06]
assbot	Spooking cats with cucumbers could cause 'psychological problems,' says Calgary vet technician - Calgary - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1SMVyyd )	[17:06]
BingoBoingo	""What I actually worry about is long-term psychological problems. Some cats are quite delicate," said Lara Chan with the Calgary Cat Clinic."	[17:06]
BingoBoingo	"If you've already played this prank on your cat, Chan said, you may have inadvertently made them afraid of cucumbers — forever."	[17:07]
BingoBoingo	"If your cat has a high exposure rate to cucumbers, it's probably not going to turn around and think it was anything other than a cucumber. We worry about the ones that have never, ever seen a cucumber before."	[17:07]
BingoBoingo	Apparently nao cats need "safe spaces"	[17:08]
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*	BingoBoingo unsure if cat safe space need is worth a qntra. Maybe some wordsmith can give it an adequate take	[17:12]
mircea_popescu	lol actually that's the future. cars will come barely working with obligation to leave them every other night go for "bugfixes" <<< good god he's right.	[17:13]
ben_vulpes	it's not scavenger culture, it's webdev culture.	[17:15]
ben_vulpes	"ah, we'll fix it tomorrow."	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	;;google have you confused your cat today	[17:16]
gribble	Confuse-A-Cat ~ Monty Python's Flying Circus - YouTube: ; Monty Python - Confuse-A-Cat - YouTube: ; Monty Python: Confuse-a-Cat:	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/J0aNCtN.jpg << best pic ever.	[17:16]
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mircea_popescu	kinda reminds me of academia catavencu, this 1990s romanian rendition of le canard enchanee	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	well, back when that was funny, anyway.	[17:16]
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mircea_popescu	;;google leblouh	[17:58]
gribble	Leblouh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Leblouh - Force-Feeding Young Girls in the Name of Beauty \| Oddity ...: ; Women fight Mauritania's fattening tradition - CNN.com: (1 more message)	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	there you go BingoBoingo	[17:58]
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BingoBoingo	with fire, kill it	[18:17]
BingoBoingo	http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-interim-police-chief-resigning-early/article_8e3e7850-0d79-5c34-8fed-c125b04251ec.html	[18:22]
assbot	Ferguson interim police chief resigning early : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1XfbKJF )	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	btw, i humbly submit for your consideration that for the future qntra does s/Obama/President Bahamas/	[18:23]
BingoBoingo	I'll see what I can do	[18:25]
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adlai	president gbanga	[18:28]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328614 << somebody tell the american chix, turns out there's this secret valhalla for them	[18:28]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field was having a private lulz earlier at the "strong condemnation" of the aziz fellow in mauretania.	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	he's been strongly condemned since about the time saddam had wmds.	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	in other news : what you do in your house has no correlation with the police knocking on your door. the only criterion is, whether they want to move in or not, is all.	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	if they do want to move in, you sure as fuck musta have been doing something.	[18:30]
ascii_field	naturally	[18:30]
ascii_field	coke in the toilet tank (tm)	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	i sitll have nfi why all these dubious regimes don't go on a shoot first policy.	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	i can see why individual cowards don't shoot cop first, ask questions after.	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	but states ? the only fucking reason the concept even exists is that it should be fearless.	[18:32]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: the concept mostly went away in 1865	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	what exactly is keeping everyone from goiing somalia ?	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	kidnap the fucking uss cole crew, sell them back for a suv a head.	[18:33]
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mircea_popescu	what, they're going to defend themselves ?	[18:33]
ascii_field	which 'everyone'	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	senegal. egypt. chile. laos.	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck, the 150.	[18:33]
ascii_field	iirc it's standard british method - the chieftains have childrenz at princeton who could 'have problems'	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	the country formerly known as the country to be in the future known as myanmar has been in exactly the same situation of mauretania / ukraine / iraq / what have you for what, 20 years now ?	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	why aren't they out there shooting bazookas at us shipping from fishing boatds.	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	what problemz are htey going to have ?	[18:35]
ascii_field	the bazooka suppliers have childrenz at princeton?	[18:35]
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mircea_popescu	and ?	[18:37]
ascii_field	i just now grokked this - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328641 - mircea_popescu actually thinks that the ~150 unaligned toy countries are sovereign ??	[18:38]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 21:29:53; mircea_popescu: what the fuck, the 150.	[18:38]
ascii_field	where 100 usd buys a cop	[18:38]
ascii_field	and 1000 - mayor	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	so ?	[18:38]
ascii_field	10,000 - a general ?	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	make better money kidnapping us "troops" for ransom	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	than whatever he gets currently.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	and no, there would be NO reprecussions. those have been out on order for 30 years now.	[18:39]
ascii_field	i'm sold. but you gotta convince... them.	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	i was jus' wondering.	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	wtf must be going through their head.	[18:39]
ascii_field	i suspect that the standard alpha orc still wants to 'make it in the west in the end' (tm)	[18:40]
ascii_field	swiss chalet, or wtf.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	but such doth not exist.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	he's more in a swiss chalet in orclandia than anyone, including Pres. Bahamas, ever has or could have.	[18:40]
ascii_field	y'know, the classical 'london exit' of a ru oligarch	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	except ... it didn't work.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	they know it didn't work.	[18:40]
adlai	berezovsky seems happy enough	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	pig squealing last words of berlusconi were "fuck this stupid shit, i wish i was younger so i could just go kidnap nato troops at sea"	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	so ?	[18:41]
ascii_field	ditto abramovich	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	you're kidding me right ?	[18:41]
ascii_field	it's a religion, the worship-the-west thing, and doesn't die easily	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	i guess.	[18:42]
jurov	mircea_popescu has ever shot any officer himself?	[18:52]
BingoBoingo	He has that story about taking that police lady's gun.	[18:53]
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pete_dushenski	;;later tell gabrielradio fantastique ! i'll take a look over the weekend and whip it up into a piece for contravex.	[18:55]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	ask me that once i run a military coup in fucking mauretania	[18:57]
mircea_popescu	or three, as the case may be.	[18:57]
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mircea_popescu	but anyway, maybe the answer actually has little to do with a "west worship" thing, and simply is that the sort of people who have goals and set about to pursue them simply no longer exists. for all i know the problem of mauretania is exactly the problem of missouri : everyone in sight principally desires to sit down in front a tv.	[18:58]
mircea_popescu	for all we know a & b are ACTUALLY happy doing nothing worth the mention in their london cell.	[18:58]
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ben_vulpes	http://community.babycenter.com/post/a29415695/because_asians_are_already_yellow	[19:10]
ben_vulpes	> jondus	[19:10]
assbot	"because asians are already yellow" - BabyCenter ... ( http://bit.ly/1X3rNzr )	[19:10]
ben_vulpes	the internet is for moms	[19:11]
ben_vulpes	the internet is for moms	[19:11]
ben_vulpes	moms moms moms	[19:11]
ben_vulpes	the internet is for moms	[19:11]
pete_dushenski	"jondus" is basically the cajun spelling	[19:11]
adlai	uh, 'b' is no longer caged in any cell... he at least seems to have made the best of the west	[19:12]
deedbot-	[Qntra] Obama at ASEAN: Money Overwhelms Ideas - http://qntra.net/2015/11/obama-at-asean-money-overwhelms-ideas/	[19:12]
adlai	http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2013/03/24/did-boris-berezovsky-kill-himself-more-compelling-did-he-kill-forbes-editor-paul-klebnikov/print/	[19:13]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1X3rXHe )	[19:13]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes web != internet.	[19:14]
BingoBoingo	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328694 << since mircea_popescu asked	[19:14]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 22:08:40; deedbot-: [Qntra] Obama at ASEAN: Money Overwhelms Ideas - http://qntra.net/2015/11/obama-at-asean-money-overwhelms-ideas/	[19:14]
*	mircea_popescu clings to this last hope.	[19:14]
BingoBoingo	has picture and everything	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	um... why is president bahamas refered to as "obama" ?	[19:15]
BingoBoingo	For the search engines.	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	...	[19:15]
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mircea_popescu	this is backwards!	[19:15]
BingoBoingo	And I haven't figured out a way to make it flash between the two	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	who cares about one !	[19:16]
BingoBoingo	At least I included the Hussein so everyone knows he birthed ISIS	[19:16]
BingoBoingo	I guess I should figure out a way to help the imageblind get the joke	[19:17]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: necessary for scansion	[19:19]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo good jokes are not widely gotten	[19:19]
BingoBoingo	Image nao captioned	[19:19]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[19:25]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328682 << possibly subtler, in that yes, they might have plans, but none of them include shitting in holes in the ground and catching frags	[19:26]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 21:54:18; mircea_popescu: but anyway, maybe the answer actually has little to do with a "west worship" thing, and simply is that the sort of people who have goals and set about to pursue them simply no longer exists. for all i know the problem of mauretania is exactly the problem of missouri : everyone in sight principally desires to sit down in front a tv.	[19:26]
ascii_field	if you wanna equate this to 'watch tv' - whatever.	[19:26]
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mircea_popescu	they're all haxxors ?	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	with their rot-13 korans ?	[19:26]
BingoBoingo	Do the holes in the ground have tv's	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	looky here, france did happen.	[19:26]
ascii_field	but there's a reason why it was kalash in paris, and not nuke at davos.	[19:27]
BingoBoingo	red mercury?	[19:28]
ascii_field	the reason is that the world of goatfuckistan has precious little to offer the kind of people who could arrange for the latter	[19:28]
ascii_field	whatever happened to dr khan anyway	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	nuke at davos ?	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	what is that going to do ?	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	seriously, nobody cares about some old farts.	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	did they not kidnap and ransom that inept us soldier, what's his name ?	[19:29]
ascii_field	fine $davos	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	mno.	[19:29]
ascii_field	wherever lizard eggs are hatched	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	mno.	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	nobody cares about this supposed "center" bs.	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	just shoot the cops / kidnap the "soldiers" and sell them back.	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	this is how the arabs imploded "the west" last time.	[19:30]
ascii_field	under saladin ?	[19:30]
ascii_field	aha	[19:30]
pete_dushenski	palestinians still use this strategy against israel	[19:30]
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pete_dushenski	in other news, i'm quite enjoying this atm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtLoaMfinbU	[19:31]
assbot	Piotr Tchaikovsky: The Nutcracker - Ballet in two acts (HD 1080p) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1X3tQnb )	[19:31]
ascii_field	forget nuke, even	[19:33]
ascii_field	but something as elementary as pgp.	[19:33]
ascii_field	y'know, the sorta thing you need to not be entirely transparent to usg microscope at all times...	[19:34]
ascii_field	in re: paris, i see it as an own goal	[19:34]
ascii_field	quite like bush's '9-11'	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	what, and the chick was just a bystander ?	[19:35]
ascii_field	which chick	[19:35]
adlai	fwiw, idf policy post-shalit is that, if you're witnessing the kidnapping as it happens, you shoot to kill nappers and/or nappee alike	[19:35]
ascii_field	adlai: this is the only sane response	[19:36]
ascii_field	otherwise 'meat shield'	[19:36]
adlai	but this policy has yet to prove itself anything beyond rote words repeated from sergeant to recruit	[19:36]
BingoBoingo	;;google Supernova Refsdal	[19:37]
gribble	SN Refsdal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Sjur Refsdal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Supernova Refsdal and Galaxy Cluster MACS J1149.6 ... - HubbleSite:	[19:37]
adlai	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328733 << Aggartha, if we could only find it!	[19:37]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 22:25:29; ascii_field: wherever lizard eggs are hatched	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	sane response or no, the us is not capable.	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, random chick that got insulted cause they asked her where's her bf	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	from the actual data i've seen, about a third of us "forces" are not actually psychologically capable of using their weapons.	[19:39]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: iirc this was circa-1940s	[19:39]
ascii_field	and was down to a few % by vietnam	[19:39]
ascii_field	incapable, rather	[19:40]
ascii_field	~90%+ wouldn't pull the trigger in ww2, a few % in vietnam	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	add to that the endless piles of wags, whornalists, "agents" and other useless bs, you have better chances to get shot by shooting yourself.	[19:40]
ascii_field	i hear plenty of u.s. folk have problems with aim when shooting self, for some reason	[19:40]
ascii_field	it always intrigued me	[19:41]
ascii_field	is it because they were trying 'ironically' ?	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	go obese, try again ?	[19:42]
BingoBoingo	is it because they were trying 'ironically' ? << likely	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	(really, the reason is the reptile brain also has a say)	[19:42]
ascii_field	possibly the only uniquely usian aspect of this is the eagerness of the medics to stitch'em back up (as described in mircea_popescu's suicide how-to)	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	us docs love trauma	[19:44]
BingoBoingo	^	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	it's the only field of medicine they are good at.	[19:45]
ascii_field	they also love chronics	[19:45]
ascii_field	regardless of what kind	[19:45]
BingoBoingo	Most US docs not very fond of the Beetus and fold mold	[19:45]
ascii_field	BingoBoingo: but the sponsor - is	[19:45]
ascii_field	just like in last night's thread where mircea_popescu explains how nobody asks the motherfucking programmers anything	[19:46]
ascii_field	ditto doctor	[19:46]
ascii_field	the money - decides.	[19:46]
BingoBoingo	ascii_field: Just over half the sponsors. Other nearly half is disappoint because they tend to dislike the medicaid rates	[19:46]
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BingoBoingo	related http://epmonthly.com/article/psych-units-in-the-ed-trend-solution-or-neither/	[19:52]
assbot	Psych Units in the ED: Trend, Solution, or Neither? - Emergency Physicians Monthly ... ( http://bit.ly/1la7VJG )	[19:52]
pete_dushenski	"Arguably the least appreciated resource for Islamic State is its fertile farms. Before even starting the engine of a single tractor, the group is believed to have grabbed as much as $200 million in wheat from Iraqi silos alone."	[19:52]
pete_dushenski	"ts fields could yield $200 million per year if those crops are sold, even at the cut rates paid on black markets. And how do you conduct airstrikes on farm fields?"	[19:53]
pete_dushenski	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-19/why-u-s-efforts-to-cut-off-islamic-state-s-funds-have-failed	[19:53]
assbot	Why U.S. Efforts to Cut Off Islamic State’s Funds Have Failed - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1la7YFs )	[19:53]
BingoBoingo	"ts fields could yield $200 million per year if those crops are sold, even at the cut rates paid on black markets. And how do you conduct airstrikes on farm fields?" << easily, call monsanto	[19:53]
ascii_field	^	[19:54]
ascii_field	'agent orange' et al	[19:54]
pete_dushenski	easily how ?	[19:54]
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adlai	chemtrails!	[19:55]
BingoBoingo	Imazapyr, glyphosate	[19:55]
pete_dushenski	'agent orange' is off the shelf and u.s. has planes ready and waiting for this ?	[19:55]
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ascii_field	pete_dushenski: ask colombia	[19:55]
BingoBoingo	Imazapyr is sold in any casual gardening store.	[19:55]
pete_dushenski	colombians have less anti-aircraft tech perhaps ?	[19:55]
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BingoBoingo	"Ground Clear" concentrate contains only 0.08% Imazapyr 5.0% Glyphosate as the concentrate. Works for most of a year after application.	[19:56]
BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field	[19:56]
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BingoBoingo	Frankly there are far more effective herbicides now than there were in the agent orange days	[19:57]
trinque	this notion they have that ISIS is something to be surgically removed from otherwise neutral "occupied" people, it's cute.	[19:59]
trinque	that's of course why they will never go after the food production.	[20:00]
trinque	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=14-11-2015#1323266	[20:01]
assbot	Logged on 14-11-2015 00:37:36; mats: nobody has the stomach to detonate a nuke over al-raqqah	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	incidentally, i must say, as someone whose education such as it was happened on old style, film x rays	[20:03]
BingoBoingo	And no amount of Monsanto has yet produced glyphosate resistant wheat to my knowledge	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	HOLY SHIT has this field improved.	[20:03]
pete_dushenski	also, iraq seems to have something like 3.75 mn hectares (9.27 mn acres) of agricultural land for wheat production	[20:04]
BingoBoingo	Also picloram and "Agent White" are still commercially available	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski it's all idle masturbation. the usg can do about as much there as it can do against martians.	[20:04]
pete_dushenski	apparently mircea_popescu hasn't seen 'mars attacks' where eiffel tower is lasered in half	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	oh ok.	[20:05]
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BingoBoingo	Inducing famine is about all USia can seriously try and even then ISIS is prolly sitting on a decent stockpile of US MREs	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	they'll just move.	[20:05]
BingoBoingo	To Paris, rinse, repeat	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	this is about as bright as "here's an oil fire in my kitchen, i know, splash water!"	[20:06]
BingoBoingo	Still safer than doing the same with a magnesium fire	[20:06]
pete_dushenski	"throw toaster at fire!"	[20:06]
pete_dushenski	"hot things attract and cancel each other out!"	[20:06]
pete_dushenski	(like garlic repels red mercury. aha.)	[20:07]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: speaking of idle masturbation, i tried sifting my way through a few of 'pseudoerasmus' ' other blogs posts and pretty much choked to death on that inanity and pointlessness	[20:08]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2015#1325797 << this blogger	[20:08]
assbot	Logged on 17-11-2015 13:45:44; punkman: http://pseudoerasmus.com/2014/10/24/szabo-china/	[20:08]
BingoBoingo	also, iraq seems to have something like 3.75 mn hectares (9.27 mn acres) of agricultural land for wheat production << Nothing compared to the soy fields USia already sprays with glyphosate.	[20:09]
pete_dushenski	the main thing running through my head while TRYING to read about ancient greek economics, what that point mircea_popescu made in a footnote recently about 'economists need businessmen but not vice versa'	[20:10]
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mircea_popescu	i've not got around to reading anything else of the guy's.	[20:10]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo: well, domestic is domestic. no implementation constraints with captive audience.	[20:10]
pete_dushenski	it's mostly not worth it	[20:11]
BingoBoingo	Still the glyphosate in sufficient quantity exists	[20:11]
BingoBoingo	US will prolly do an Assad and drop barrel bombs of it	[20:11]
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mircea_popescu	of course, chemical warfare is still forbidden as per teh various conventions	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	you know, the stuff the us has been pushing as replacement for local governments.	[20:13]
pete_dushenski	pseudoerasmus reminds me a bit of vlaclav smil with a bit more focus on history and (obviously, given format) a bit less thoroughness	[20:13]
pete_dushenski	vaclav*	[20:13]
pete_dushenski	bit less of a pessimist than smil too	[20:14]
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ben_vulpes	re: "ed", a nurse was over last night, lamenting the shift from "emergency room, you know, a big room with sheets, "emergency department" with individually nicely fitted out, warm rooms with room service that someone other than $invalid is paying for"	[20:21]
ben_vulpes	"to improve the quality of care!" mno. to increase the cost of care.	[20:21]
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pete_dushenski	"They may have a reputation for being bird-brained, but pigeons have found to be as adept as humans when it comes to spotting cancerous tissue in mammograms."	[20:30]
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pete_dushenski	"Experts trained a group of the birds to tell the difference between benign and malignant human breast tissue using food reinforcement techniques."	[20:31]
pete_dushenski	"Over the course of two weeks, the birds' accuracy at studying the slides improved from 50 per cent up to 85 per cent - and in one instance this rose as high as 90 per cent."	[20:31]
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pete_dushenski	top kek. 'radiologist' goes to 'skool' for 10 years+ of post-secondary, spends $bezzle in tuition, and is still no better than a garbage-eating pigeon	[20:32]
jurov	surely, nature had not imbued him	[20:32]
ben_vulpes	no better than random selection, really.	[20:33]
ben_vulpes	which should be entirely unsurprising, as most doctors i've met can't do odds for poker in their heads much less the odds for human ailments.	[20:33]
jurov	um...can be pigeons learned poker?	[20:34]
ben_vulpes	no, but random selection.	[20:34]
ben_vulpes	the question to ask is "can oncologists beat a coin toss?"	[20:34]
adlai	how about "all neural networks can be trained by the sufficiently smart dataset, not only ANNs"	[20:39]
pete_dushenski	"The [British] Air Force has been forced to write off a brand new $115million gunship after a pilot accidentally flew it upside down, according to a report. The AC-130J Ghostrider gunship was taking part in a training mission over the Gulf of Mexico in April this year having taken off from Elgin Air Force Base, officials said. The pilot, from 413th Flight Test Squadron, was taking part in a 'sideslip' maneuver when h	[20:44]
pete_dushenski	st control of the 132ft-wide aircraft before it turned upside down."	[20:44]
pete_dushenski	apparently flying upside-down "exceeded manufacturer's stress limits"	[20:45]
pete_dushenski	despite there being no accident or injury or malfunction	[20:45]
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pete_dushenski	imagine head of isis decommissioned ak47 because it was shot upside-down when fighter aped american gangster from u.s. movies	[20:46]
ben_vulpes	this is actually a thing with planes, pete_dushenski.	[20:46]
ben_vulpes	exceeding the envelope is bad.	[20:46]
ben_vulpes	now if the envelope is retardedly small, that's a different problem.	[20:47]
ben_vulpes	exceeding stress limits is akin to holding the tach in the red for an extended period of time.	[20:47]
ben_vulpes	yes, you can do it, and yes the car will survive. how many hours did you take off of its life, however?	[20:48]
pete_dushenski	why not find out !	[20:48]
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pete_dushenski	worst case : lose a few pilots/crew	[20:48]
pete_dushenski	cheaper than $115 mn place	[20:48]
pete_dushenski	plane*	[20:48]
pete_dushenski	useful info to be gleaned as well	[20:49]
ben_vulpes	how are you going to lose the crew and not the plane, praytell	[20:49]
ben_vulpes	given that the ejector seats are to save the staff at the expense of hardware.	[20:49]
pete_dushenski	for the sake of argument, let's say that the plane will depreciate sufficiently to accommodate for loss of life. so $115 mn lost, but info gained. or $115 lost and no info gained.	[20:50]
adlai	"write off" doesn't mean the plane gets scrapped and resold as coke cans	[20:51]
jurov	there are testing pilots for ...er... testing that know better how to do these experiments	[20:51]
ben_vulpes	"will depreciate...to accomodate for loss of life", sorry, not following. as though i were 5?	[20:53]
kakobrekla	adlai if its not airworthy, are you going to dive the seas with it?	[20:53]
jurov	and they do want pilots to risk in combat, hence arrangements to preserver their life	[20:53]
adlai	kakobrekla: well pete_dushenski didn't link source so i'm not sure what's in store for that plane, but all i took from the quote is that it won't be chemtrailing isil farmlands	[20:53]
ben_vulpes	adlai: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ghostrider-gunship-scrapped-after-inverted-flight-sc-419208/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter	[20:53]
assbot	Ghostrider gunship scrapped after inverted flight scare ... ( http://bit.ly/1T59Vyw )	[20:53]
adlai	this is #bitcoin-twatters now?	[20:54]
ben_vulpes	i have no idea where it came up with the notion i found it on twitter	[20:54]
kakobrekla	;;google Air Force has been forced to write off a brand new $115million gunship	[20:54]
gribble	Air Force Forced To Write Off New $115Million Gunship After Pilot ...: ; Air Force forced to write off brand new $115million gunship after ...:	[20:54]
kakobrekla	dozens	[20:55]
jurov	gotta train pigeons instead	[20:55]
ben_vulpes	a smaller example: some high performance gliders will tear themselves apart if they go too fast, pete_dushenski	[20:55]
adlai	jfc, how about http://www.afmc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123462877	[20:56]
assbot	AC-130J accident report released ... ( http://bit.ly/1T5a9pf )	[20:56]
ben_vulpes	is this one of the birds nominally intended to replace the warthog?	[20:56]
adlai	and this still doesn't have the report itself, or say what happens to the plane... and i just ran out of distraction-minutes	[20:57]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: loss of life 'costs' something, which is presumably fixed in this example, whereas 'value' of plane decreases over time, starting at $115 mn and eventually ending up at whatever the scrap is worth melted down.	[20:57]
pete_dushenski	along the continuum of depreciation, the net loss in the plane's 'value' will equal the 'cost' of crew life, ya ?	[20:58]
adlai	aha: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:s1Id4kjvxc4J:www.airforcemag.com/AircraftAccidentReports/Documents/2015/042115_AC130J_Eglin.pdf	[20:58]
assbot	UNITED STATES AIR FORCE AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION BOARD REPORT ... ( http://bit.ly/1T5amZB )	[20:58]
adlai	"The mishap pilot (MP) was attempting to ..." << check it out, they're already slandering it on mircea_popescu	[20:59]
ben_vulpes	the net cost of that one incident?	[21:00]
ben_vulpes	or amortization schedule?	[21:01]
ben_vulpes	the plane is now unflyable, so in the sense that its value was "one returned crew, maybe" its value is now "not likely a returned crew".	[21:02]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: net cost of one incident, yes.	[21:04]
pete_dushenski	on that bombshell, i'm off for the evening. happy friday and to all a good night !	[21:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.00051539 = 18.2963 BTC [+]	[21:07]
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BingoBoingo	is this one of the birds nominally intended to replace the warthog? << Compliment warthog.	[21:09]
BingoBoingo	F-35 is replace warthog	[21:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102499 @ 0.00051722 = 53.0145 BTC [+] {2}	[21:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130300 @ 0.00052477 = 68.3775 BTC [+] {8}	[21:25]
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BingoBoingo	!up soiled	[21:31]
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BingoBoingo	soiled: Are you my pants?	[21:32]
soiled	...	[21:32]
soiled	i can be whatever you want me to be baby	[21:32]
soiled	bitcoin gonna go back to 250	[21:33]
soiled	stock market gonna crash entering q2 next year	[21:36]
soiled	gold's gonna go to $10k/oz	[21:37]
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soiled	and i'm gonna get rich because of those things	[21:42]
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adlai	soiled: not unless you https://bitbet.us/new/	[21:42]
assbot	New BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LbYrcM )	[21:42]
BingoBoingo	Must not be my pants, they don't try to predict the future	[21:42]
soiled	well it's pretty obvious those things are going to happen	[21:49]
soiled	it's just timing that's the hard part	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328847 << actual radiologist wiht 20 years+ experience regularly gets 99.98%	[21:50]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 23:28:24; pete_dushenski: top kek. 'radiologist' goes to 'skool' for 10 years+ of post-secondary, spends $bezzle in tuition, and is still no better than a garbage-eating pigeon	[21:50]
BingoBoingo	!down soiled pants aren't supposed to give lip like that	[21:51]
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mircea_popescu	the notion that 80% is something goes hand in hand with the sort of ienpt everything the orcmedia is pushing.	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328857 << 80% "gunship"	[21:52]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 23:41:11; pete_dushenski: apparently flying upside-down "exceeded manufacturer's stress limits"	[21:52]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2015#1328878 << hey, in the straights of iran they've flown submarines before.	[21:53]
assbot	Logged on 20-11-2015 23:48:57; kakobrekla: adlai if its not airworthy, are you going to dive the seas with it?	[21:53]
mircea_popescu	why not submarine bad uk planes.	[21:54]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24153 @ 0.0005253 = 12.6876 BTC [+] {4}	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile in the nation of africa, http://41.media.tumblr.com/0ce4a970a81ea27b8c36bd1880a66349/tumblr_n4lzssOAmA1tp96c7o1_1280.jpg	[22:02]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1OWUB8y )	[22:02]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3377 @ 0.0005229 = 1.7658 BTC [-] {2}	[22:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00052561 = 13.6659 BTC [+] {3}	[22:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00052307 = 9.4676 BTC [-] {2}	[22:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31250 @ 0.00052296 = 16.3425 BTC [-] {3}	[23:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24850 @ 0.00052463 = 13.0371 BTC [+] {3}	[23:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23715 @ 0.00052614 = 12.4774 BTC [+] {2}	[23:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33876 @ 0.00052646 = 17.8344 BTC [+] {3}	[23:19]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00052678 = 7.4803 BTC [+] {2}	[23:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.0005229 = 8.105 BTC [-] {2}	[23:31]
mod6	;;bc,stats	[23:39]
gribble	Current Blocks: 384549 \| Current Difficulty: 6.5848255179702614E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 385055 \| Next Difficulty In: 506 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 46 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: None \| Estimated Percent Change: None	[23:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45770 @ 0.00052719 = 24.1295 BTC [+] {2}	[23:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.0005279 = 12.6432 BTC [+] {3}	[23:49]

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