Forum logs for 19 Jul 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform relevant in light of recent nyoos: http://yarchive.net/risks/iranian_airbus.html [00:01]
assbot Iranian Airbus shootdown (Henry Spencer) [00:01]
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asciilifeform more on the subject: http://yarchive.net/risks/vincennes_shootdown.html [00:20]
assbot Vincennes shootdown (Rob Horn) [00:20]
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BingoBoingo http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/07/18/2115220/tesla-model-s-hacking-prize-claimed [00:31]
assbot Tesla Model S Hacking Prize Claimed - Slashdot [00:31]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: still pales in comparison to the mp3 CAN bus hack: http://www.itworld.com/security/139794/with-hacking-music-can-take-control-your-car [00:35]
assbot With hacking, music can take control of your car | ITworld [00:35]
BingoBoingo Ah yeah, Why the connected car shouldn't be [00:41]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://pastebin.com/xd1s53Bc [01:00]
assbot ought to be SOP, but is it? - Pastebin.com [01:00]
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fluffypony ;;seen naphex [01:22]
gribble naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 8 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ttq9oOvks [01:22]
fluffypony O.o [01:22]
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Pierre_Rochard http://www.bloomberg.com/infographics/2014-07-16/global-poll.html#bubbles [01:22]
assbot Global Poll 2014-07-16 - Bloomberg [01:22]
Pierre_Rochard 55% of the ‘financial elite’ believe Bitcoin is “Already a bubble” [01:23]
Pierre_Rochard 19% hold that view for U.S. Treasuries [01:23]
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asciilifeform http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/dev_random.html#update_5 << linus on rng, for anyone who hasn't already read. [01:34]
assbot /dev/random (H. Peter Anvin; Theodore Y. Ts'o) [01:34]
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thickasthieves believed [01:39]
thickasthieves the poll is from January [01:39]
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benkay salud de canada [02:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 395 @ 0.0027094 = 1.0702 BTC [-] {20} [03:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 667 @ 0.00266083 = 1.7748 BTC [-] {8} [03:05]
benkay so what'd i miss last two days? [03:12]
mike_c china declared bitcoin illegal [03:14]
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mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard i wouldn't hold anything bloomberg says against the "financial elite". [03:21]
mircea_popescu anymore than i'd hold anything jezebel publishes against "hot college sluts" [03:21]
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Pierre_Rochard Agreed, I suspect the people who respond to bloomberg surveys are a few layers below “financial elite” [03:22]
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dub !ticker h am [04:28]
assbot It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry. [04:28]
dub !ticker h am1 [04:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.16000000 / 0.17427496 / 0.17810011 (67 shares, 11.67642261 BTC), 7D: 0.16000000 / 0.18260023 / 0.20000000 (421 shares, 76.87469724 BTC), 30D: 0.16000000 / 0.19476211 / 0.23100000 (2179 shares, 424.38663775 BTC) [04:29]
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benkay !t h rent [04:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00368000 / 0.00442061 / 0.00540000 (3154 shares, 13.94260472 BTC), 30D: 0.00200000 / 0.00400794 / 0.00540000 (9159 shares, 36.70867789 BTC) [04:29]
benkay ;;ticker [04:29]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 629.46, Best ask: 630.94, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 631.61, 24 hour volume: 5421.77762335, 24 hour low: 618.46, 24 hour high: 632.96, 24 hour vwap: 625.997690338 [04:29]
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decimation asciilifeform: re: linux on /dev/random "To me it sounds from your description that you may well be on the edge of "too anal". Real life _has_ to be taken into account, and not accepting entropy because of theoretical issues is _not_ a good idea" [04:32]
decimation "we have to accept that we can't give real entropy to those that need it, so shut up and get on the bus [04:32]
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kakobrekla you mean the wagen. [04:40]
decimation no, the wagen is for those who refuse the bus :) [04:41]
decimation At the end of "the first circle", the prisoners are being removed from Mavrino in a vehicle disguised as a meat truck: [04:47]
decimation "Buffeting its load of tightly packed bodies, the gaily painted orange and blue truck drove on through the streets, passed a railway station and stopped at a crossroads. There, halted by a traffic-light, stood the dark-red car belonging to the Moscow correspondent of the Paris newspaper LIBERATION, on his way to a hockey match at the Dynamo Stadium. On the side of the van the correspondent read the words: MYACO. VIANDE. FLEISCH. MEAT. [04:48]
decimation He remembered having seen several trucks like this today in various parts of Moscow. Taking out his notebook he wrote with his dark-red fountain pen: 'Now and again on the streets of Moscow you meet food delivery vans, clean, well-designed and hygienic. One must admit that the city's food supplies are admirably well organized.'" [04:48]
decimation That's what Solzhenitsyn thought about the West back then [04:48]
decimation "useful idiots" [04:50]
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thickasthieves "The Chamber of Digital Commerce announced itself on Saturday at the North American Bitcoin Conference in Chicago. The group is registered as a 501(c)(6) nonprofit, which allows it to act as a lobbyist, and is being led by Perianne Boring, a former journalist and Congressional staffer. It has early backing from RRE Ventures and Tally Capital, which are leading a seed-round of fund [05:28]
thickasthieves raising." [05:28]
thickasthieves is it really called a "seed-round" if it's a non-profit? [05:29]
thickasthieves and is seed-round really in need of a hyphen? [05:29]
thickasthieves (WSJ) [05:29]
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mircea_popescu lol chamber of digital commerce. [05:36]
mircea_popescu what is this thing with youths where they want to pretend like they're doing shit. [05:37]
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Pierre_Rochard mircea_popescu: apprenticeship system broke down due to minimum wage at the low end, and college at the “high end” [05:39]
Pierre_Rochard so now we pretend to do shit and hope it sticks. [05:40]
mircea_popescu very expensive process. [05:41]
mircea_popescu she's a pretty girl, she's ambitious, she's for some reason chosen to fuck herself over the mocsny way. [05:42]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#761157 [05:42]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [05:42]
mircea_popescu just replace "sex" with "business success" [05:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: mocsny had other interesting quirks. he was, for instance, ideologically opposed to driving car (pollution!) [05:44]
Pierre_Rochard Yes, well it doesn’t seem to be business success that she’s after. Naturally, she’s interested in social validation from her in-group of fellow bitcoiners [05:44]
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thickasthieves !s perianne [05:45]
assbot 6 results for 'perianne' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=perianne [05:45]
thickasthieves http://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/ she looks like an actress for a cheesy cop show [05:46]
assbot Perianne Boring - Boring Economics - Forbes [05:46]
thickasthieves a dame [05:46]
Pierre_Rochard https://twitter.com/PerianneDC/status/462716981356294144 [05:46]
Pierre_Rochard WHCD stands for White House Correspondents Dinner, where journalists go to pretend like they’re doing shit [05:47]
thickasthieves first comment is good [05:47]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard that's business success. [05:50]
mircea_popescu if you're validated for your peers for what you do, that's business success. [05:50]
mircea_popescu and whcd is just a little pork, take all these famished kids and serve them a proper meal once a year is the idea. [05:51]
mircea_popescu course from what i hear they've been skimping on the catering. [05:51]
mircea_popescu !s bitcoingirl [05:52]
assbot 203 results for 'bitcoingirl' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoingirl [05:52]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves ^ [05:52]
Pierre_Rochard mircea_popescu I think that widens the definition of “business” a bit much. being the accountant that I am, I always look at that net income line. perhaps to my detriment [05:52]
thickasthieves <+mircea_popescu> course from what i hear they've been skimping on the catering. // what, dollars grow on trees? [05:52]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard but business is doing things, no other definition really works. [05:52]
mircea_popescu you can also know things, and you can also fuck really well. that just about covers human experience. [05:53]
thickasthieves dont forget hugs and cat love [05:54]
Pierre_Rochard I wouldn’t describe the wealthy heiress who is very busy organizing charity galas to be a “business success” - however much she’s “doing things”. Her business is structurally running a loss [05:54]
thickasthieves hmm [05:55]
thickasthieves you are stretching [05:55]
thickasthieves charity galas cant be success now? [05:56]
thickasthieves they are a loss? [05:56]
thickasthieves what if they raise the money? [05:56]
Pierre_Rochard they consume capital, I’ve always thought of “business success” as creating capital [05:56]
Pierre_Rochard the more money they raise, the more capital they consume [05:57]
Pierre_Rochard semantics [05:57]
thickasthieves well they are called nonprofits for a reason [05:58]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard running a loss of what ? [05:58]
mircea_popescu all economy is pouring fluid from one vessel to the next. [05:59]
mircea_popescu if she's spending her own money to buy something, who are you to know better ? as long as she can keep doing it she's a businessman just like you. [05:59]
Pierre_Rochard a loss of capital. I disagree, capital does accumulate [05:59]
mircea_popescu or in romanian, "cistigi, pagubesti, negustor te numesti" [06:00]
thickasthieves mp i agree strongly with this sentiment [06:00]
mircea_popescu so if i spend capital to buy advertising im a bad businessman ? [06:00]
mircea_popescu what's this, mercantilism 2.0 ? [06:00]
thickasthieves a system persisting is success [06:00]
thickasthieves that's all [06:00]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves obv. [06:00]
Pierre_Rochard we are disagreeing on semantics then, because to me spending:investing::consumption:business [06:00]
mircea_popescu maybe we're disagreeing on the point where you cut the space of externalities ideologically and pretend like it ain't so. [06:01]
mircea_popescu the mining mogul uses up coal to make money. [06:01]
mircea_popescu the socialite uses up money to make whatever the fuck you'd call it. [06:01]
Pierre_Rochard no, because you are buying an intangible “capital” good called goodwill / brand awareness / customer education. This capital depreciates over time [06:01]
mircea_popescu "pr" [06:01]
mircea_popescu everything depreciates over time. [06:01]
mircea_popescu the only measure of success is, "is this species still extant or meanwhile extinguished" [06:02]
mircea_popescu that's how nature does it. [06:02]
Pierre_Rochard well yes, the socialite buys social capital, I would call them a successful socialite, I wouldn’t normally call them a successful businessperson. they would find it offensive to compare their activities to commercial ones [06:03]
mircea_popescu what a socialite finds offensive is entirely her problem [06:03]
mircea_popescu she'll still take it in the ass. [06:03]
thickasthieves wife met with a state senator today asking her to be on the board of a nonprofit that gives public school teachers funds for stuff the school won't pay for [06:03]
thickasthieves that outta twist things nicely for ya [06:03]
thickasthieves charity to the failings of the gov [06:04]
Pierre_Rochard fair enough, so the conclusion is that boring is a successful businessperson? [06:04]
mircea_popescu the us is too meta. [06:04]
thickasthieves oughta [06:04]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard no. she positions herself as she were, she pretends to be. [06:04]
mircea_popescu otherwise, she's a ridiculous teenager, putting online a forum about "how to score chix" [06:04]
mircea_popescu while acnee, basement, virgin. [06:04]
asciilifeform Pierre_Rochard: start an org that will give funds to pay for stuff the nonprofit won't pay for. do this until stack overflows. [06:04]
mircea_popescu but "who's gonna know" right ? [06:04]
thickasthieves ascii they are called trusts right? [06:06]
asciilifeform 'trust,' afaik, is somewhat generic [06:06]
thickasthieves i think it's where the wife wants to end up, deciding which nonprofits get pools of money [06:06]
asciilifeform thickasthieves << 'shift' key wore out? [06:07]
thickasthieves just spicing things up [06:07]
asciilifeform lol [06:07]
Pierre_Rochard at what point would you say she is a thing? If she is able to do enough work to raise money for her new organization, is that not a successful business? [06:08]
asciilifeform unrelated - is kakobrekla awake? i wish to buy his gadget. [06:08]
thickasthieves kako sells gadgets? [06:08]
asciilifeform thickasthieves: one in particular [06:08]
asciilifeform thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#758843 [06:09]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [06:09]
thickasthieves ah i see [06:11]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard the objection here isn't on the lines of business. she looks like she could raise a million dollars on the vegas strip np [06:11]
mircea_popescu the objection here is that she's working hard, not smart. [06:11]
mircea_popescu which is why the link to the mocsny guy. [06:11]
mircea_popescu let me tell you a story, it'll perfectly well illustrate what i mean. [06:12]
Pierre_Rochard Ok, I’m all ears [06:12]
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mircea_popescu so, when i went to hs, they made this special "suprareal" class. (in romanian, "real" means you do math, otherwise it's a chick hs doing languages, or a prole hs doing "skills"). they made the entrance so fucking hard tho that only about 18 kids out of the entire region made it. the remainder "fell through" to 3 normal "real" classes at this elite hs. [06:13]
mircea_popescu then the ministry decided it won't ok a 18 student class. so they took a dozen the kids that had fallen through 3 normal classes, and had not found an alternative hs in the dozen or so top highschools around. and put them in. [06:14]
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mircea_popescu now among this dozen, there was a mentally retarded girl. she wasn't badly touched, maybe 80 or so. definitely enough to take care of herself. definitely not enough for high level math. her parents however were i dun recall what academic country gentry, and so they insisted she go. [06:15]
mircea_popescu she came. for four years, that poor unfortunate soul sat there, dreading the moment anyone asked anything. because she knew she couldn't cope. just smart enough to smart. [06:15]
asciilifeform lol i remember this story [06:15]
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mircea_popescu nobody flunked her, because you don't flunk well behaved girls. and so... she made it through. parents beamingly proud. [06:16]
mircea_popescu all the kids that were any good left, generally the country. just about now, an elderly lady with a full professorship was looking for an assistant. [06:16]
mircea_popescu if possible, a polite and introverted girl. [06:16]
mircea_popescu so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less! [06:17]
mircea_popescu there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe. [06:17]
mircea_popescu now... is she a thing ? [06:17]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if i didn't know any better, i'd imagine we went to uni together. we had 'the same' chick! she bedeviled our number theory prof with at least a hundred very boneheaded questions every lecture. he seethed, boiled, but couldn't throw her out. why? 'registered special needs.' (going for math degree!) she even got unlimited time on exams. [06:17]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform they could have thrown her out, np. just... [06:18]
Pierre_Rochard Ah, I see what you mean now [06:19]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i spoke to other people from that time, and they remember her. from other lectures. [06:19]
mircea_popescu so, yeah. she can be a thing if she wants. she doesn't, even if she may be too stupid to realise this. [06:19]
Pierre_Rochard Reminds me of this diagram (excuse the wp): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Challenge_vs_skill.svg [06:20]
assbot File:Challenge vs skill.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [06:20]
asciilifeform 'but dr. x!! i just don't -get- euler's totient! pleeeease explain it again!' [06:20]
Pierre_Rochard would it be fair to say “pretending” = taking on a challenge that you don’t have the skills for, and “a thing” = taking on a challenge you have the skills for? [06:25]
mircea_popescu i think so. [06:26]
mircea_popescu skills broadly speaking. [06:26]
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Pierre_Rochard Right. Hmm. Going to sleep on this one now. I like the heuristic. I’ll be doing log reading this weekend with that in mind [06:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not sure how similar to your girl, but all i could think of in that lecture was 'why no one humanely shoots this broken horse?' [06:29]
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mircea_popescu why put her in the spot is more the q [06:31]
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asciilifeform and $t0, $t0, 0xffbfffff [06:34]
asciilifeform lol wrong window [06:34]
decimation there's also the dunning-kruger effect, the unskilled strongly tend to think that they are skilled [06:34]
mircea_popescu decimation now imagine what happens to a society that takes all the natural victims of this phenomenon, kids aged 15-20, and a) preaches to the girls they should be more like the boys, ie, stupid in this particular manner and b) [06:35]
asciilifeform decimation: only goes so far. i really can't imagine this particular specimen thought it was skilled. [06:35]
mircea_popescu spends all the time it should spend training them so they stop sucking training them to believe they are just fine and this is what one does and should do. [06:35]
decimation yeah the problem is more the marginal boy that mircea points out [06:36]
decimation at my university I found these types "lecturing" freshman psychology, hoping to "earn" a phd in social science [06:36]
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decimation I admire the german system for this reason; take a test around middle school to really determine if you are capable of the university path [06:38]
decimation if not, learn a trade [06:38]
decimation this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not [06:39]
asciilifeform decimation: except when it doesn't. consider japanese 'cram schools' [06:39]
asciilifeform decimation: the marginal kids get herded by their family into a kind of boot camp where they get trained, like animals, to jump through the burning ring [06:40]
decimation it's true that no filter is going to be perfect [06:40]
decimation but it's better than shoving every kid into college [06:41]
asciilifeform even ancient china, apparently, had 'cram schools.' (see miyazaki, 'china's examination hell' - neat little monograph on the subject) [06:41]
decimation interesting, thanks for the tip [06:45]
decimation here's a question: why will bitcoin succeed when gold was beaten so badly by fiat? [06:46]
decimation one answer I came up with: banning bitcoin is banning information transfer, which seems to be beyond the power of the state [06:47]
decimation whereas banning physical gold transaction is possible, at least within the "officially recognized" banking and exchange entities [06:48]
mircea_popescu here's a question: why will bitcoin succeed when gold was beaten so badly by fiat? << well, why has gold been "Beaten so badly by fiat" ? [06:49]
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mircea_popescu this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not << whole fucking contemporary us is built upon people pretending they are everyithing they're not. [06:57]
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mircea_popescu it starts with the us itself pretending to be part of the western world, while leading africa in rapes, teenage pregnancy, incarceration, functional illiteracy and the like [06:57]
mircea_popescu religious obscurantism, you name it, they got it. [06:57]
thickasthieves you create one country and you think you can do anything for a few hundred years [07:00]
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nubbins` the british only created one country? ;D [07:03]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/TD57iUI [07:04]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [07:04]
nubbins` ^ just finished [07:04]
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nubbins` i'd wondered what happened to goat, seems he's banned from the forums [07:35]
mircea_popescu didn';t he make a sikrit forum where he derps with tortilla and some glbse bagholders ? [07:35]
nubbins` ;;google cryptocrypt [07:38]
gribble CryptoCrypt - Index: ; crypto-, crypt- - Word Information: ; cryptocrypt.org (cryptocryptorg) on Twitter: [07:38]
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artifexd I don't understand this “burning bitcoin" concept. Bitcoin are destined to be one of the most valuable commodities that have ever existed. Burning them is just dumb. Plain and simple. Dumb. [08:46]
TheNewDeal probably smells good [08:47]
artifexd Also, I'm a little intoxicated. "Welcome to Ecuador" says the family, with alcohol. [08:47]
mircea_popescu artifexd people are attracted by the outrageous. [08:54]
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TheNewDeal and outraged at the attactive [08:59]
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mircea_popescu that too [09:32]
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mircea_popescu jurov i don't get what it'd be supposed to do tho. you mean dial-up access only ? anyone can connect to a website on dial-up as it is. [17:30]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 600 @ 0.00278 = 1.668 BTC [+] {2} [17:43]
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thickasthieves "Dell should pre-install Bitcoin wallets in all its laptops" ~Reddit [18:05]
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pankkake what could possibly go wrong [18:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 531 @ 0.00276999 = 1.4709 BTC [-] [18:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 628 @ 0.00282677 = 1.7752 BTC [+] {8} [18:29]
punkman mircea_popescu: anyone can connect to a website on dial-up as it is. << I think he meant having his modem dial a telephone number for mpex [18:30]
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thickasthieves “The US is certainly one of the world’s leaders. At some point it seemed that it was the only leader and a uni-polar system was in place. Today it appears that is not the case. Everything in the world is interdependent and once you try to punish someone, in the end you will cut off your nose to spite your face" ~ Putin [18:51]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79138904 BTC to 12`351 shares, 14504 satoshi per share [19:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 26.54172304 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2308 satoshi per share [19:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 55 @ 0.01507294 = 0.829 BTC [-] {2} [19:02]
thickasthieves some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ [19:02]
assbot A New Digital Currency Whose Value Is Based on Your Reputation | Enterprise | WIRED [19:02]
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penguirker New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-update-bitstamp-preparing-for-700/ [19:42]
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herbijudlestoids hullo [19:44]
herbijudlestoids thought i would check in [19:44]
herbijudlestoids went to poke mpex, looks like a lot has been going on [19:45]
thickasthieves everyone's keeping busy, slow this morning though [19:46]
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herbijudlestoids all healthy and happy? [19:47]
thickasthieves http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/balance.png?w=382 meters? [19:48]
thickasthieves afaik everyone is healthy [19:48]
thickasthieves other than mpex [19:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 224 @ 0.00275165 = 0.6164 BTC [-] {7} [19:50]
herbijudlestoids yes, admit i was a little surprised about the downtime thing upon visiting trilema [19:52]
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herbijudlestoids but i guess mircea_popescu knows whats what when it comes to building the system he designed [19:52]
mircea_popescu o look herbijudlestoids [19:53]
herbijudlestoids hi mp :) [19:53]
herbijudlestoids verify happy/healthy? [19:54]
mircea_popescu sure. [19:54]
herbijudlestoids gud [19:54]
herbijudlestoids things have been going well on my end, after the first big customer hit we have had a bit of a flood of them, and our accountant has even managed to score us significant tax breaks around R&D for the last FY [19:55]
herbijudlestoids so, as i guess my absence has indicated, have been keeping busy [19:55]
herbijudlestoids anyway, 3am here, just wanted to login and check on yall after i noticed mpex was down. lots of love. [19:56]
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benkay "We are a transportation company—we are not law enforcement," Mr. Fitzgerald added. // http://online.wsj.com/articles/fedex-indicted-for-role-in-distributing-controlled-substances-prescription-drugs-1405637242 [19:57]
assbot FedEx Indicted in Prescription Drug Shipping Probe - WSJ [19:57]
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mircea_popescu benkay no they are criminalz. [20:15]
mircea_popescu they knew-or-should-have-known (tm) that people are sending dope through the mail and stopped offerind mail services! [20:16]
mircea_popescu no any-services (tm) may be offered by anyone because IT IS DANGEROUS [20:16]
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mircea_popescu "Black men who are employed also get the shaft by having an average life expectancy of 64 years, which means on average they don't live long enough to see any of their social security tax payments, given that the retirement age is 65 years." [21:03]
mircea_popescu fucking statistics 101. black men may have a 64 yo le, but black men WHO ARE EMPLOYED do not. [21:03]
* asciilifeform does not know the genuine figure, and doubts that anyone else does [21:04]
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benkay mircea_popescu: it's a wild ride [21:23]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform which figure you mean ? [21:24]
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benkay https://www.refheap.com/88370 [21:30]
assbot anonymous's paste: 88370 [21:30]
benkay ^^ o.O [21:30]
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benkay some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ // it's quite clear everyone'll eventually have their own coin. [21:35]
assbot A New Digital Currency Whose Value Is Based on Your Reputation | Enterprise | WIRED [21:35]
benkay 0, 1, inf. [21:35]
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fluffypony FluffyCoin ? [21:47]
benkay probably just your gpg keyid ;) [21:47]
benkay -> magic bytes in protocol, to separate networks [21:47]
benkay no mining per se, because that's a feature of btc, you know? [21:48]
benkay pre-mine, act as your own central bank. [21:48]
benkay reputation and behavior are incredibly important because you can rewrite the blockchain basically at will, unless you do something with a merged-mine approach (but i don't know enough about mm to comment really) [21:50]
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kakobrekla asciilifeform possibly, but i suspect it still a fortune to ship since im not in china or uk. two more issues, as i said, its not assembled atm and would need to be before its shipped overseas, to see whats what. this takes time. [22:03]
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kakobrekla other thing is, Z axis, while I have the parts, two alu blocks would still need to be machined - if you have access to machining you are prolly better off getting alu machined locally. [22:05]
kakobrekla and get the rest of the parts from uk/china. whichever you prefer. its same stuff. [22:05]
kakobrekla >prolly better off getting alu machined locally.< i mean all the profiles. [22:07]
kakobrekla now if youd be in eu, id grab all the parts and come with them to put it together - not even selling - would lend it for free. [22:12]
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benkay these canadians! [22:28]
benkay i just found a beer bottle with a threaded neck onto which a cap had been crimped to not un-thread. i did not know that this was possible! [22:28]
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mircea_popescu some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ // it's quite clear everyone'll eventually have their own coin. << truth. whore stopped me in the street last night, "gringo how do i get my own coin ?" [22:50]
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benkay you're already known as the btc baron? [22:52]
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jurov mircea_popescu: i meant for you to have actual modem onsite, to be able to reach mpex even if there's internet problem [22:53]
mircea_popescu uh [22:53]
jurov and mpex users would be asked not to disclose the number [22:56]
jurov but not sure if there's room for this scenario if mpex's completely ddos proof now.. [22:56]
mircea_popescu i'd rather make it so it works than you know, make it so it phones. [22:57]
jurov lolk [22:57]
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jurov or phone poor moiety and dictate signed order to her xD [22:58]
mircea_popescu lol [23:00]
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moiety XD [23:01]
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mircea_popescu 64 bytes from [x.x.x.x]: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.47 ms [23:15]
mircea_popescu now that's what i'm talking about. [23:15]
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benkay oh so this is going to be entertaining [23:53]
benkay i discovered at the border that my passport is expired. canadian borderfolk dgaf, but i'm *really* anticipating hitting US customs now. [23:54]
benkay like so excited omg [23:54]
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