Forum logs for 20 Jul 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu inb4 benkay exiled to canuckistan. [00:02]
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benkay ;;curl [00:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 302 @ 0.00286538 = 0.8653 BTC [+] {2} [00:08]
FabianB ;;status [00:09]
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empyex FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) [00:09]
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mircea_popescu hopefully that'll cut donw on the join/part spam. [00:11]
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fluffypony yay [00:15]
Namworld I have those turned off in my client since last year. I don't see those anymore. Was quite annoying and barely helpful. [00:16]
mircea_popescu Namworld yeah but take the recent camho invasion for instance. [00:17]
mircea_popescu we'd have never known. [00:18]
mircea_popescu good practice to voice/help new people anyway. [00:18]
mircea_popescu for anyone looking to get a taste of obscure bug parade : [00:19]
assbot Bug 659512 – no chance to enter a password during key generation in command-line mode [00:19]
mircea_popescu for a coupla hours there it looked like the whole damned charade'll have to be taken down and redone. [00:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.002865 = 0.8595 BTC [-] [00:37]
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atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 222 Ask: 242 Last Price: 223 24h-Vol: 18k High: 223 Low: 222 VWAP: 222 [00:59]
BingoBoingo %ob [00:59]
atcbot 722@279 30k@278 18k@242 | 22k@222 57k@211 183k@210 [00:59]
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atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 687182.56 in 2007 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: 0.00 [00:59]
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nubbins` any of you know who klaus nomi is? [01:15]
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mircea_popescu meh [01:47]
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kakobrekla yeah [01:52]
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assbot Archaeologist : Ancient Group Claimed Drinking Clean Water Caused Diarrhea | Medical Satire - GomerBlog [02:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 207 @ 0.0028742 = 0.595 BTC [+] [02:02]
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mircea_popescu "As an example, the following string of numbers is anything but random: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 However, if this is run through a MD5 or SHA whitener, the result would [02:47]
mircea_popescu *look* random, even though the source material is anything but random." [02:47]
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mircea_popescu in which we find Theodore Y. Ts'o doesn't comprehend what random means. [02:47]
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mircea_popescu benkay yeah. [06:42]
mircea_popescu hanbot: [06:42]
mircea_popescu danke. so preet bharara finally lost a case << fucking douches. no, it shows the limits of the fucking corrupt us government. [06:42]
assbot Log In - The New York Times [06:42]
mircea_popescu this "we got the courts rigged so you gotta say you did what we say you did and then go to siberia" bs only goes as far as it goes. [06:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: mpex modem << as i recall, reliability of net connection is not an issue at mpex << so far that's the part that works best. [06:44]
mircea_popescu hanbot:well exactly. something bound by accidental inhalation on the lower end and hernias on the higher << i agree. half meter cube, ideal robot. [06:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Theodore Y. Ts'o doesn't comprehend what random means << 'random' is simply a non-scientific qualifier. like 'big'. << looking forward to reading medicine treatises in similar terms. something tells me teh colonies will soon deliver. [06:46]
decimation why would usg bother with the minor part of the little brother anyway [06:48]
artifexd []bot appears to be down. I'm out of the country. Can't fix it until I get back next week. Sorry folks. [06:50]
mircea_popescu artifexd aite [06:53]
mircea_popescu decimation hm ? [06:53]
decimation the rengan rajaratnam dude [06:55]
decimation "It seems unlikely that he?d have been hired at Galleon were he not Raj Rajaratnam?s brother. Even then, his older brother demoted him several times and he made less money there than some secretaries." [06:55]
dub !isitdown [06:55]
mircea_popescu it's down. [06:56]
mircea_popescu "That seems to have been the end of the courtship. (Mr. Palecek died from an infection in 2010.)" << the rate at which these people die of preventable causes is ridiculous. seriously, work for supposedly the masters of the country, best paid job, corridors of power, die of "an infection" ? [06:57]
decimation yeah that was amusing too [06:58]
decimation I guess they ran out of nailguns [06:58]
benkay well exactly. something bound by accidental inhalation on the lower end and hernias on the higher // 6-8 axis arm on an actuated sphere. hernias not an issue, follows one around. [06:59]
decimation mircea this insider trading thing is relevant to your post I linked above. information doesn't want to be free, but who gets to decide if it is secret? [07:00]
Vexual those that have it [07:01]
mircea_popescu that problem is a lot worse than anyone wants to admit. [07:01]
benkay mircea_popescu: well keep la serenissima posted [07:01]
mircea_popescu there's simply no logical way to reconcile the naive want for "fairness" with the practicality of trade. [07:01]
mircea_popescu "insider trading" is what trading is. irrespective of what people who don't trade wish to think trading is. [07:02]
mircea_popescu much like you know, trying to prosecute "buggery" because people who don't have sex don't want to think of sex in terms of "all holes, dp and your girlfriend". as if. [07:02]
decimation yeah what is trading without "insider" knowledge? trades based on an account's report and a brochure? [07:03]
decimation I can't imagine a way to be more ignorant about a business and its prospects [07:03]
mircea_popescu benkay so far fighting with the obscurity of free and open source software, which is this endless bundle fifty million lines long that nobody ever read, in spite of you know, how "open source" etc. [07:04]
mircea_popescu decimation now granted, what the indians are doing in the us finance (btw, have you noticed how few 3rd generation americans are involved in anything worth the mention ?) is nothing short of scandalous [07:04]
mircea_popescu however, the solution is emphatically NOT to try and prosecute them, because this just drives the specific behaviours enshrined in indian culture that cause the mess. [07:05]
mircea_popescu the solution is to open the whole thing, let the market drive it down to zero, then you won't care someone made fifty bucks or w/e. [07:05]
decimation and note that Mr. Bharara is also one of them... [07:05]
mircea_popescu yeah. it's that whole "italian mobster turned policeman to clean up ny" story all over again [07:06]
mircea_popescu (which was the same cca 1890, except then it was irish criminal etc) [07:06]
decimation in my undergrad it was assumed knowledge that the indians got together to "strategize" on exam-taking [07:06]
decimation in India, it would probably be expected for a Brahmin C-suite guy to tell a fellow Brahmin trader what is going on [07:07]
benkay mircea_popescu: that nobody ever read // it's p lulzy people still buy that [07:07]
mircea_popescu what, you mean ? [07:07]
benkay see: openssl [07:08]
benkay jaspersoft [07:09]
benkay puppet [07:09]
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benkay mircea_popescu: die of "an infection" ? // i prefer the interpretation where the us is always on the verge of horrific viral outbreaks due to decades of antibacterial abuse [07:12]
decimation 'don't talk politics around the table (so we can just eat)' -> 'don't question the code(so we can just use it)' [07:12]
mike_c any audiophiles around here? my headphones of 15 years finally bit the dust. [07:14]
decimation benkay I think you mean bacterial outbreaks. They are already happening: [07:14]
assbot Superbug stalked NIH hospital last year, killing six - The Washington Post [07:14]
Vexual micey: buy speakers [07:15]
mike_c not so good for the office. [07:15]
Vexual fuck the offic [07:15]
mike_c or for sleeping babies. [07:15]
decimation my sennheiser HD280's studio monitors work very well [07:15]
Vexual er.. what decimation said [07:15]
mike_c although i agree with the office. my office neighbors annoy me often enough. [07:16]
decimation do you want to attenuate the surrounding noise? [07:16]
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mike_c nah [07:16]
mike_c i mean, i don't need cancelling. i don't want to hear surrounding noise. [07:16]
decimation I find earbuds and the like extremely uncomfroatble, you aren't going to get better quality than bigass headphones [07:17]
decimation hanbot did you get them custom fit [07:17]
mike_c are those buds? i'm looking more for over-ear. [07:18]
decimation yeah those are earbuds that block sound [07:18]
decimation better than any headphone will [07:18]
decimation I'm a sennheiser fanboi, but I'm sure there are other quality headphones out there. examine the spec sheet [07:19]
cazalla i love my m50s [07:19]
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mike_c cazalla: ath m50? [07:19]
cazalla m50s [07:19]
cazalla m50 has coiled cable which i don't like, m50s does not [07:20]
mike_c that just personal preference? my dead ones had coiled and i kinda did like that. [07:20]
cazalla yeah, makes no difference to audio afaik [07:21]
mircea_popescu hanbot no, not as such. the traditional way is for the naive to train their submission, as practiced in say india. [07:21]
mike_c cool. thanks for the suggestions. [07:21]
mircea_popescu 'don't talk politics around the table (so we can just eat)' -> 'don't question the code(so we can just use it)' << ;/ [07:21]
mircea_popescu cause fuck you if you have uncommon needs, right ? [07:22]
mircea_popescu the whole fucking point of code is to make the world more like salem cca 1700 now ;/ [07:22]
mircea_popescu mike_c mice don't actually attack babies. you're thinking rats. [07:22]
mike_c lol, what? [07:23]
mircea_popescu o nm, earphones lol. i misread. [07:23]
mircea_popescu Vexual got me i swear! [07:23]
Vexual it's mouses [07:23]
mike_c now rats to attack office neighbors.. that would be an idea. [07:24]
mircea_popescu specially-constructed oubliettes with a terminal in the lid and a hole for shit in the bottom. <<< ahaha ok. [07:24]
mircea_popescu mike_c armored battlerats! with a terminal upside the head! [07:24]
dub my dj1200 are not that comfortable for long but they are hard to kill [07:24]
dub long periods [07:25]
mike_c definitely need comfort for hours. [07:25]
Vexual are those insertable or over ear dub? [07:25]
dub [07:26]
assbot Technics: RP-DJ1200 Headphones - Black (Deadstock) — [07:26]
mike_c fucking amazon needs to take btc already. i bought some fiverr shit the other day with btc and it was so smooth. kind of changed my opinion on using btc for random purchases. [07:26]
dub good for lugging around [07:26]
decimation man the spec sheets for headphones suck [07:27]
dub the ear pad rubber is perishing on mine which is quite astounding considering how briefly every other set I've owned has survive [07:28]
dub d [07:28]
mike_c my sony mdr's ear pad rubber lasted about 5 years on average [07:28]
mircea_popescu apparently i'm getting a fucking fever. [07:28]
mircea_popescu mike_c they dun wanna end up with a bunch of terrorist bux [07:29]
Vexual kill it with half a bottle of red and go to sleep [07:29]
decimation or insider bux [07:29]
mike_c terrorist bux are as green as everybody elses. [07:29]
mike_c wait, is that a saying in other countries? your money probably isn't green. [07:30]
dub its usually a mix [07:30]
Vexual 100's are [07:30]
dub murican folding is fucking retarded in that aspect [07:30]
dub every note looks the same [07:31]
decimation well and worthless $1 are still bills [07:31]
mike_c i can't stand bills of different size. such a pain to roll. [07:31]
dub lol [07:32]
dub bitches don't know about mike_c's pimp roll [07:32]
mike_c it's phat [07:32]
mircea_popescu mike_c makes it quite impossible to get the wrong change. [07:33]
mike_c paying attention fixes that problem too [07:34]
mircea_popescu once you get the bitches you have no attention to spare. [07:35]
mike_c hehe. that's why i stick with one. [07:35]
dub 3rd world money tends to either be shit quality or stay in circulation long enough to wear any markings off [07:35]
mircea_popescu so basically the equal size bills are anti-slut. [07:35]
mircea_popescu DOWN WITH AMERICA [07:35]
mike_c no way. ben lawsky is going to make america the center of btc bizness [07:36]
decimation I would like to see the basis of his regulation [07:37]
decimation like, how is bitcoin different than plain speech? [07:37]
decimation if it isn't different, how is it legal for the government to regulate it, state or federal? [07:37]
Vexual afik aust was the first to deploy polymer banknotes [07:38]
mike_c idk.. ever since 9/11 the goverment just regulates whatever the fuck it wants. [07:38]
decimation if there's an exception for "game" currencies, how does one demonstrate that bitcoin is demonstrably different than a "game" currency? [07:38]
decimation lol more like ever since lincoln [07:38]
mircea_popescu decimation you don't need basis for regulation. [07:38]
mircea_popescu that's why regulation is taking over legislation as a normative process. [07:38]
Vexual fucking giuliani [07:39]
mircea_popescu decimation anyway, one doesn't "demonstrate". one claims, and prays nobody calls the bluff. [07:39]
mircea_popescu which is why the 100% conviction-through-plea-bargain system is so important. [07:39]
mike_c this doesn't work quite as well with companies. Lyft is testing this in NYC by blatantly ignoring all their regulations and fighting the state in court. [07:40]
mike_c results TBD [07:41]
mircea_popescu but anyway. the 2012 peg in the eye of the beast has been holding out splendidly well. they're trying to enact this difference between game currencies and bitcoin, and who knows, maybe it'll work. who;s to say that's the last peg trilema go. [07:41]
mircea_popescu got* [07:41]
mircea_popescu mike_c it exactly. [07:42]
* dub got some good news today [07:43]
dub won a 17 year olf legal battle [07:43]
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dub old* [07:43]
mike_c nice. congrats. [07:43]
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dub bad news is $200k legal bill [07:43]
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decimation the layers upon layers of outlandish claims fossilize into a hardened mess - nothing can change the status quo - until the whole thing fractures and breaks in a massive earthquake [07:44]
decimation ie fragile, not robust or anti-fragile [07:44]
mircea_popescu dub divorce ? [07:44]
Vexual Go Around! [07:45]
dub no [07:45]
Vexual er that was for the fossilized mass, not dubs divorce [07:46]
mircea_popescu anyway, one of the comparatively more important btc valuations is, "cost incurred by the usg litigating per btc available to defendant". [07:46]
mircea_popescu definitely more important than derpstamp or w/e. and this is pretty hefty as we sit now. [07:46]
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mike_c cazalla: m50x has detachable cable and you get coiled and straight. everybody wins. [07:46]
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decimation mircea: the usg tends to maximally claim & minimally deliver [07:47]
decimation if bitcoin goes up another one or two orders of magnitude in dollar value, it will be that much worse for the usg to do anything [07:48]
Vexual mike_c get rabbit fur bads for extra boss [07:49]
decimation my sennheisers have detachable cables too, although the oem cable was crap - conductors broke after awhile [07:50]
mike_c they actually have velvet ones. [07:50]
assbot ATH-M50-PADS - One Pair Black Velvet ear pads for ATH-M20x, ATH-M30x, ATH-M40x, ATH-M50, ATH-M50s, ATH-M50RD, ATH-M50WH, ATH-M50x, ATH-M50xBL, ATH-M50xWH: Electronics [07:50]
decimation according to their spec sheet, the ath m50's only go down to 15 hz, the sennehiser hd280's go down to 8 Hz [07:51]
decimation that's going to be more audible than whatever the top frequency in the ultrasonic band is [07:51]
mike_c hm. ath has lower impedance. [07:52]
decimation human hearing being a logrithmically spaced filter bank and all [07:52]
decimation impedance is a matter of what you are connecting with [07:52]
mike_c yeah. won't matter for computer. [07:53]
mike_c could matter for phone? [07:53]
mike_c probably not. [07:53]
decimation my guess is no [07:53]
decimation impedance actually varies with frequency, which no one gives a spec for [07:53]
decimation in a basic sense, impedance mismatch will just lower the effective power delivered to the headphones [07:54]
decimation so turn them up, etc [07:54]
mike_c right, phone can only deliver so much though. but probably enough for either. [07:54]
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decimation [07:55]
assbot iPhone 5 headphone volume too low | Apple Support Communities [07:55]
decimation "The issue as I understand it is that the output impedance of the iPhone 5 is around 3.7 ohms whereas the older phones and iPods are around 5.5 ohms. What is not clear is whether this has been changed by software or by hardware. There are reports that this is an issue in the EU region only. Yet some folk in the USA are also complaining." [07:55]
decimation so either headphone is going to have an impedance mismatch [07:55]
decimation because apple has neither the room on their board or the inclination to deliver studio quality audio [07:55]
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decimation if you think about it, headphones that block surrounding audio will increase the effective signal/noise ratio delivered to your ears [07:57]
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mike_c decisions.. [07:58]
Vexual just buy the 50s you wally [07:58]
decimation I suspect the average listening would be unable to differentiate most of these headphones in a blind test [07:59]
decimation s/listening/listener [07:59]
Vexual get the velvet, and if you get too stoned you can hide in the curtains [07:59]
mike_c yeah.. sennheiser doesn't have velvet. [07:59]
decimation if you are going to use them for 8 hours per day in the office, comfort is probably more important than audio quality [08:00]
mike_c it is, but that is difficult to know before trying for 8 hours [08:00]
decimation indeed, I guess the solution is buy one and sell it on craigslist if it sucks [08:01]
Vexual for $120 try a fresh set [08:01]
mike_c yes. or return it. [08:01]
dub the solution is dont work in an office [08:01]
mike_c i like working in an office. fewer distractions. [08:02]
decimation I find comfortable headphones with classical music encourage focus [08:02]
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mike_c i find the same with electronic music. ftw. [08:03]
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dub boombox with gangster rap tbh [08:04]
mike_c whatever works [08:05]
Vexual ghetto blaster is best [08:05]
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dub heh, famous actor lives across road, pulling into my drive earlier I see another actor getting a box of beer out of his car and going inside [08:17]
dub they're now playing what looks like GTA5 on his huge ass tv [08:18]
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Vexual lets go around with a bottle of glen fiddich [08:19]
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Vexual pitch mp's idea, wich is way better than his last [08:21]
cazalla mike_c, didn't know they had an m50x, i still think i'd go the m50s due to no coil and i would likely lose the cable if i could detach it anyway [08:22]
dub fresh out of glenfiddich but I'm now sipping a glenrothes, good suggestion [08:23]
cazalla Vexual, i think aus was first, i still have some of the first abo polymer notes around somewhere [08:24]
mike_c cazalla: m50s is cheaper too, just b/c it isn't 'current year model'. sound is supposed to be the same. [08:25]
cazalla you can get the m50s for around $100 on special sometimes [08:25]
Vexual d'you keep your rabbit skins cazalla? [08:27]
cazalla no but i should [08:27]
cazalla mike_c, only thing i dislike about m50s is the soundstage is a little too small for fps gaming, i switch to my speakers when gaming but they aren't gaming headphones to begin with so isn't a big issue [08:28]
mike_c yeah, not a problem for me [08:29]
mike_c ok, i'm off to buy something and hit the sack. thanks for the help. [08:30]
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Vexual beats by dre:buy [08:31]
cazalla Vexual, kill yourself [08:32]
Vexual i was joking about what mike hunt bought dick nob [08:32]
cazalla beats give you +10 swag, that's about it [08:34]
cazalla hey Vexual, you know the aussie victims of the MH17 crash, my old primary school teacher was on it [08:37]
Vexual yes i heard that [08:38]
Vexual was it some year 4 hex? [08:38]
cazalla well, he made me write lines [08:39]
cazalla had to do em again as taping 2 pencils together to write 2x was too obvious [08:39]
cazalla dunno if being asploded was warranted punishment for him though [08:41]
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Vexual yeah its harsh [08:41]
Vexual [08:42]
cazalla not my cup of tea [08:42]
Vexual sams or the music? [08:43]
cazalla music [08:43]
Vexual im not a big fan of sams [08:43]
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Vexual commericail airlines flew over iraq and afghanistan for the last 10 years, this might be a proper war [08:45]
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cazalla multipass [08:52]
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benkay benkay I think you mean bacterial outbreaks. They are already happening: // yup. been drinking all day. [09:01]
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assbot Phinnaeus Gage aka ~Bruno Kucinskas - DEBT PAID 7/19/2014 [09:03]
Vexual ben10: 2 beers? [09:04]
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benkay uh [09:05]
benkay gosh lost count boss [09:05]
Vexual yep. 2 [09:05]
Vexual dou so digital it hurts [09:06]
benkay Vexual: pm [09:07]
Vexual aight maybe 12 [09:08]
benkay a few yeah [09:09]
Vexual it happens [09:09]
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Vexual ;;ud having a lend [09:40]
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mircea_popescu !s infinite number of arms [09:41]
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assbot Big numbers, random numbers and who’s got your number ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [09:58]
Vexual d'you pay .15 for 3 tits? [10:00]
mircea_popescu lol [10:01]
Vexual i dtill think a cell phne cam is an excellent source of entropy [10:02]
Vexual but, poison is the thing more than reverse anything [10:03]
mircea_popescu there's no free entropy lunch. [10:03]
Vexual excellent aritlce [10:04]
mircea_popescu glad you liked it. [10:06]
Vexual i might even understand it tomorrow; this water is giving me heartburn [10:11]
Vexual no i think i get it [10:12]
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penguirker New blog post: [10:21]
jurov yes, good article [10:22]
jurov next time i see someone reading from bones or coffee stain imma pester them whether they have tested past output for enough entropy [10:23]
Vexual entropy is irrelevantr oto these soothsaysers [10:24]
Vexual ask em something else [10:24]
jurov i daresay otherwise [10:24]
jurov they certainly seem to need some randomness source [10:24]
Vexual say away dear lamb [10:25]
jurov without it, their output could be too predictable [10:25]
jurov what would expose them to potential problem [10:25]
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fluffypony mircea_popescu: you've seen Total Recall, no? [10:36]
Vexual dies the new one have 3 titites? [10:37]
fluffypony yes [10:38]
fluffypony personally I prefer the old one, but at least they kept that bit in for continuity :-P [10:38]
Vexual will watch [10:38]
mircea_popescu fluffypony the one film schwarzy made that was trying to not be hack and slash ? [10:38]
mircea_popescu jurov generally their whole claim is butressed on such past history. [10:39]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: yes, otherwise known as "that movie that came out when I was 8 or 9 years old that I wasn't allowed to watch because it had a chick with 3 tits in it" [10:39]
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fluffypony but that I watched a couple of years later anyway when one of my school friends got it on VHS [10:40]
mircea_popescu which is why the warning came to be on financial products, that "past performance is no indication of future success". the fortune teller makes two spurious claims, one that his arbitrariety is systematic, the other that he has a good historical record. [10:40]
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mircea_popescu the latter is easier to disprove, but the former easily sticks with people, who then form the spurious belief that everything is systematic [10:40]
mircea_popescu hence conspiracy theorists, forum investors etc. [10:40]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i was allowed to watch it. [10:40]
mircea_popescu being a yurpean rocks i guess. [10:40]
Vexual yeah buy you wer like 14 [10:41]
Vexual you woulda been mean then [10:41]
fluffypony my parents let me watch all measure of stuff, but Total Recall was bad because they didn't want an 8 year old believing that girls had 3 boobs [10:41]
mircea_popescu i was allowed to watch pasolini's fucking decameron [10:42]
Vexual most 8 year olds prolly have livelank now [10:45]
mircea_popescu anyway, the baby-in-belly was the more disturbing part i thought [10:45]
Vexual tru dat [10:46]
Vexual is he in the new one ? [10:46]
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Vexual more cowbell [11:27]
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Vexual fluffypony, your iris dna assay is in, you're 5% negroif [11:31]
Vexual you are also 20% gold [11:32]
fluffypony lol [11:33]
mircea_popescu random link of the day [11:34]
assbot Benford's Law -- from Wolfram MathWorld [11:34]
mircea_popescu in a randomly selected lit of numbers, 30% will start with 1. [11:34]
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mircea_popescu it's close to 50% if you take atomic weights [11:34]
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ChesterMolester lold [11:35]
ChesterMolester sup mircea [11:35]
ChesterMolester Come visit USA, we’ll go for pizza ;) [11:36]
fluffypony I think he's on the no fly list [11:37]
ChesterMolester lold [11:37]
fluffypony NICE TRY SEC SPY [11:38]
Vexual baloney! [11:39]
mircea_popescu ChesterMolester who're you again ? [11:40]
ChesterMolester Hasbro / JoshG [11:40]
ChesterMolester I came for the woman and stayed for the coin [11:40]
mircea_popescu lol mkay. [11:40]
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mircea_popescu anyway, had enough us for a decade or two. [11:41]
mircea_popescu maybe i visit after the fall. play fallout in new reno irl or some4thing. [11:41]
fluffypony Josh Groban? [11:41]
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mircea_popescu pankkake << all i see is more of the same, "fucktards are butthurt, how dares anyone upset the statu quo" [19:56]
assbot LibreSSL is taking a beating, and that's good | Flameeyes's Weblog [19:56]
asciilifeform 'ubuntu: turns out is actually windows vista with a few custom themes.' [19:57]
mircea_popescu i have no idea who fucking asked amazon fanboi there to pass his judgement on de raadt, but i can state for teh records it wasn't me. [19:57]
asciilifeform anyone here knows de raadt in person? [19:58]
asciilifeform linked from above - the old, familiar << still sold out, no date for next shipment (1 year + now!) [19:59]
assbot Simtec Electronics Entropy Key: USB True Random Number Generator [19:59]
kakobrekla how about never. [20:00]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: i suppose they keep the site up, for old time's sake [20:00]
mircea_popescu the better news here is that while i tried to sleep my cold off people actually got to the bottom of the whole gpg snag. hallelujah. [20:00]
kakobrekla any guesses why they stopped making them? [20:04]
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thestringpuller ;;calc .25 * 400 [20:04]
gribble 100 [20:04]
mircea_popescu not enough dough in it ? [20:07]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: why they stopped making them << ft meade's shipments of diddled ARM micros held up. budget blown on coke. [20:07]
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assbot Air Force research: How to use social media to control people like drones | Ars Technica [20:13]
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fluffypony oh sorry missed that [20:20]
fluffypony yes it is [20:20]
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mircea_popescu chetty gotta love how the sm people keep pumping out more articles about how essential sm is. [20:23]
mircea_popescu it'd read "cern laboratory using social media to collide large hadrons" if the movie of the week were about the cern [20:23]
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mircea_popescu speaking of which, dear intelligent people stuck on reddit&co - this is you : [20:27]
assbot I wasn’t going to actually post this, but… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:27]
mircea_popescu you've bought into the entire sm swag just like other generations have bought in the shit offered for their consumption. guess what : the fact that you all get it only hides the fact that it's shit from you yourselves, [20:27]
mircea_popescu not from anyone else. and it doesn't even do such a good job of hiding it from you yourselves on a long enough timeline. [20:28]
mircea_popescu it's still shit, in the manner the local fair in lexington, kentucky, even if called "the flaming man", is still a very poor approximation of the actual burning man. [20:28]
chetty social media seems to do a really good job of killing social [20:29]
mircea_popescu and even if parents would much prefer their 17 yo rebelious teenager goes to the flaming man instead of the burning man, and even if they give the car with a full tank of gasoline and two small bottles of ginger ale for the former and punish the latter, [20:29]
mircea_popescu fucking lexington is still a joke, and you're going to be a joke for going there. not just in my eyes, which whatever, who cares, but in your own 60yo eyes. and that burns. [20:29]
mircea_popescu /done ranting. [20:30]
mircea_popescu social media, fucking chewing gum. what is it ? it's not social, nor is it media. it's not a food, not a liquid, basically a stationery bike for you jaw. [20:34]
chetty seems more like a cattle prod [20:36]
chetty feliz dia del amigo [20:40]
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mircea_popescu o wow that exists ? [20:41]
mircea_popescu is it the day of the married man's secret homosexual friend ? like "jour de la chere amie" would be in france ? [20:42]
benkay ;;ud having a lend [20:49]
gribble | An Australian term meaning to be lying to a person for one's own amusement. " He said she had an STI" "He's only having a lend of you". de ZStardust 13 février  ... [20:49]
benkay ;;later tell vexual no lend, but doubtful that it'd be serial. [20:49]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:49]
benkay maybe i visit after the fall. play fallout in new reno irl or some4thing. // empire collapse when [20:57]
chetty seems to be a sort of generic friends day, can't walk down street without hearing it today [20:57]
mircea_popescu these people can make a feast out of anything. [20:58]
mircea_popescu samba si! trabajo no! [20:59]
benkay my kind of country i tell you [20:59]
mircea_popescu lol [20:59]
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benkay an Oculus Rift, or the entire research lab they have? // i can't wait for the full-wraparound displays with lots and lots of pixels [21:02]
benkay no more monitors, headsets only [21:02]
benkay ugh, I guess I'm moving to France. // oh ffs really? [21:04]
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assbot Chinese Exchange OKCoin Launches USD Deposits and Withdrawals [21:07]
chetty The company does not plan to register for money transmission licenses in the US immediately [21:08]
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mircea_popescu i thot china made btc illegal. [21:17]
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mircea_popescu all these people derping about "quantum-computing-strong hashes" and whatnot are starting to get on my motherfucking nerves. yo idiots! are you aware that every rng out there actually uses some sort of quantum noise ? WHAT THE FUCK ARE HASHES GOING TO DO WHEN I KNOW ALL THE SEEDS! [21:29]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: to be fair, the machine (as described originally by r. feynman) doesn't divine history a la asimov's 'chronoscope', but merely computes certain classes of function unusually cheaply. [21:34]
mircea_popescu and you know this how ? [21:35]
mircea_popescu the rules as they are preclude its existence. that may not mean it can't exist, [21:35]
mircea_popescu but it does mean that IF it were to exist, we can't say anything about what it can't do./ [21:35]
BingoBoingo,19273/ [21:35]
assbot Open-Minded Man Grimly Realizes How Much Life He's Wasted Listening To Bullshit | The Onion - America's Finest News Source [21:35]
chetty quantum = magic (at least vocabulary wise) [21:35]
asciilifeform let's put it slightly differently. if it's also a chronoscope, this cannot be readily inferred from feynman's hypothetical. [21:35]
mircea_popescu but feynman's hypothetical is not wholly self-contained. [21:36]
mircea_popescu if it were, we could build it. [21:36]
mircea_popescu so, i can argue that yes, it is just as readily inferred as anything else. [21:36]
asciilifeform i sorta get the flavour here. perpetuum mobile, were it build, could perhaps also cure baldness. [21:36]
mircea_popescu why not ? [21:36]
mircea_popescu the day false evaluates to true, you're nine feet tall [21:37]
mircea_popescu should you wish to be. [21:37]
mircea_popescu simply because 5 is the new 9. [21:37]
asciilifeform (setq #f #t) << actually evaluated this in a 'lisp' i wrote as a schoolboy. mega-lol. [21:37]
mircea_popescu moreover, you trying to sell my king a device to harden the fortress against perpetuum mobile which relies on the 1st law of thermo will get me to advise him to hang you. [21:38]
mircea_popescu because srsly. [21:38]
asciilifeform later found that in the original fortran, one could assign... to a constant. [21:38]
mircea_popescu yup, the old story of 4. [21:38]
BingoBoingo BitPay doubles down on marketing to Joe Six Pack [21:38]
assbot Bitcoin Symbol to Appear on Bobby Dodd Stadium - Coin Fire [21:38]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo where's that one ? [21:38]
asciilifeform it's a good job that f-students can't actually break mathematics. [21:39]
mircea_popescu srsly. [21:39]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That one's some regional school. Probably sponsored because it is close not BitPay's Atlanta HQ. [21:39]
mircea_popescu this is the package maintainer's path to divinity : prevent all the f-students, masquerading as women-interest, "general public" interest etfuckingc from breaking math. [21:39]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo this is starting to look so much like classic doctom bubble burnage... [21:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.17100833 = 1.026 BTC [+] {2} [21:40]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: For sure. With one of these discovering how much was spent will be a hard problem unless they just let the number slip. [21:41]
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mircea_popescu thanks to all the inflation, they're safe : they didn't have that much to spend anyway. i doubt anything under 1bn even registers anymore, especially after the great successes of govt contractors in the mideast. [21:42]
BingoBoingo Also not there aren't very many "Halliburton Stadiums" because the contractors that abide know lean years are possible [21:43]
mircea_popescu more like, because hb count'd give less of a shit. [21:44]
mircea_popescu it's a mpex sort of corp, not a hot topic sort of corp. [21:44]
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BingoBoingo Right, or an AT&T or another sophisticated herder of consumer cattle [21:45]
BingoBoingo Also guide to ripping on Jews as a good libertard [21:45]
assbot This Is Not Jewish (How to Criticize Israel Without Being Anti-Semitic) [21:45]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: << finally found the ancient cartoon with the schooltard who zaps all of history so he doesn't have to pass exam. [21:49]
assbot ( 2) () - YouTube [21:49]
Pierre_Rochard I wouldn’t describe GT as a “regional school”: [21:50]
assbot Top 50 engineering & technology universities - Times Higher Education [21:50]
BingoBoingo Pierre_Rochard: It seems that list strengthens the case of it as a regional school when it comes to Athletics. [21:54]
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Pierre_Rochard Eh, they are in NCAA Division I. [21:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform omfg, it's got BEK! pankkake you sly dog. [21:56]
Pierre_Rochard BingoBoingo: here’s what “regional” generally means: [21:56]
assbot Frequently Asked Questions: 2014 Best Colleges Rankings - US News [21:56]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: bek ? [21:57]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard so basically it's the georgia tech stadium ? [21:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform bek! 2:48 [21:57]
Pierre_Rochard mircea_popescu: yup, seats 55k [21:57]
assbot Bobby Dodd Stadium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [21:57]
mircea_popescu aha. [21:57]
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BingoBoingo Rather small for a college football stadium [21:58]
asciilifeform 'век' == 'century' [21:58]
Pierre_Rochard BingoBoingo: agreed, my alma mater seated 100k. [21:58]
Pierre_Rochard seats* [21:58]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform shhh :p [22:00]
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BingoBoingo Pierre_Rochard: Regionalness is an attribute that can feature differently on Aspects of a University. Consider a school in the opposite situation, Texas Tech. National University in athletics and very regional school academically. [22:00]
mircea_popescu <<< ahahah, "don't use what happens to be the largest, oldest and generally speaking most important european meme, because it may butthurt jooz" [22:01]
assbot This Is Not Jewish (How to Criticize Israel Without Being Anti-Semitic) [22:01]
mircea_popescu this is the most preposterous shit i ever read. hey, fifty million jewish people ? about a billion people happen to not give a shit. this is how it should be. [22:01]
Pierre_Rochard BingoBoingo: agreed [22:02]
mircea_popescu ima end up persecuting fucking jews as the initiators of this "vocal minority trying to opress majority" meme. [22:02]
Pierre_Rochard BingoBoingo: I guess we’re just using different definitions of “regional”, the one that’s “bachelor + master” is more commonly used [22:02]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard i originally thought it's a highschool/municipal sort of stadium for some reason. [22:03]
mircea_popescu "Don’t call Jews you agree with “the good Jews.” Imposing your values on another group is not okay. Tokenizing is not okay. Appointing yourself the judge of what other groups can or should believe is not okay." << omfg. this is about as offensive as it gets. [22:04]
Namworld So I have this cat I just adopted. He's always following me around and tend to lay down at my feet. Won't let me sleep, walking on me and trying to get under the sheets. So I close the door to the bedroom. Then shortly later, I hear the cat and look. He's inside the room playing. I think wtf, must have slipt back in while I was closing the door. I go put him out, close the door, go back [22:04]
Namworld to bed. Noises in the room. I look, he's back in the room. [22:04]
mircea_popescu appointing yourself the judge of all fucking creation is the point of life. [22:04]
BingoBoingo Pierre_Rochard: There's a lot of small shit schools getting on the doctoral train trying to escape their regional labels, so it is best not to use bachelor+masters as a measure. That and there are Bachelors (sometimes + masters) schools that are better candidates for escaping regionalness than some shitholes like Ohio State. [22:04]
mircea_popescu Namworld got a hole in your roof ? [22:04]
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Pierre_Rochard BingoBoingo: I agree, “national research university” has gotten diluted. [22:05]
asciilifeform [22:05]
assbot (At the Back Desk) episode 2, English subs - YouTube [22:05]
asciilifeform ^ english subs [22:05]
asciilifeform for aficionados [22:05]
Namworld Basement appartment. [22:05]
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mircea_popescu "Don’t depict the Magen David (Star of David) as an equivalent to the Nazi swastika. The Magen David represents all Jews—not just Israelis, not just people who are violent against Palestinians, ALL JEWS. When you do this, you are painting all Jews as violent, genocidal racists. DON’T." << and for that matter, the swastika represented all germans, not just the ones involved in homicide. [22:06]
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mircea_popescu so you know... stop misrepresenting the swastika as something bad just to serve your need to scapegoat imagery. [22:06]
Namworld So I wonder what kind of sorcery this is. Then I notice a service panel to pipes slightly opened. That fucker was opening the cabinet under the sink, crawled into the walls with the pipes and made it's way to the room. [22:06]
mircea_popescu Namworld ahahah i think that's a keeper :) [22:07]
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Namworld Well definitly. That cat would chew a door to get to me. Can hear it scratching doors to follow me. That plus always laying at my feet. It's more like a dog. [22:09]
mircea_popescu so treat it well and be happy. [22:09]
mircea_popescu maybe one day a woman does the same. [22:09]
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Namworld All I need now is to find it a name, eh. [22:17]
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mircea_popescu you could call it brock. [22:24]
mircea_popescu on the strength of the similarity in behaviour. [22:24]
BingoBoingo Lol sneaking into bedrooms [22:24]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [22:24]
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Namworld Who? [22:25]
BingoBoingo The FOundation guy [22:26]
asciilifeform sounds like the ideal cat. deserves a respectable name. [22:26]
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BingoBoingo OMG BUllet point #2 [22:28]
mircea_popescu decentralized key generation ? [22:29]
mircea_popescu what's this, a way to reduce key entropy to breakable levels ? [22:29]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: probably some crackpot m-of-n scheme again [22:30]
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mircea_popescu "have a 4096 rsa key made out of 8 parts! it may not be as strong as the proper key, but that's good : if you forget your passphrase you can break the key and retreive your stuff!" [22:35]
asciilifeform lol [22:35]
mircea_popescu "also only terrorists would do this unauthorisedly." [22:36]
mircea_popescu "and it's illegal to not let us do illegal shit when we want to anyway, so." [22:36]
BingoBoingo ;;calc 4096/8 [22:38]
gribble 512 [22:38]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this isn't how it works. [22:38]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if you know ~1 in 4 bits, you can trivially break. [22:39]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, it COULD be designed as a concatenation somehow, thus actually retaining 500ish bits. maybe. [22:41]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It's hard to predict derpitecture [22:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there are published recipes for this. see 'multi-party computation' literature. [22:42]
mircea_popescu yeah just dun know how far i'd trust it. [22:42]
asciilifeform but there is virtually never any good reason to attempt it. [22:42]
asciilifeform for one thing, in most cases a plaintext exists, and who can know where and in how many copies. [22:43]
BingoBoingo [22:46]
assbot Insane Coding: Memory management in C and auto allocating sprintf() - asprintf() [22:46]
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decimation I was thinking about the "poisoned soup" model of determining the "randomness" of some numbers [22:49]
decimation it seems to me that if you had an infinitely large pot, you could tell whether the numbers were random or not [22:49]
decimation any source of finite entropy would eventually exhaust [22:49]
asciilifeform decimation: if you had an infinitely large pot, you could tip it over and drown the enemy. [22:49]
decimation heh yeah my point is of academic interest only [22:50]
thickasthieves "The U.S. government is rapidly expanding the number of names it accepts for inclusion on its terrorist watch list, with more than 1.5 million added in the last five years, according to numbers divulged by the government in a civil lawsuit." [22:50]
decimation although, the first practical test of any source of random numbers is to get a large quantity of them and see if there are any repeats [22:50]
asciilifeform decimation: the real lesson (which always seemed rather obvious to me, but what the hell) is that the numbers are uninteresting except in so far as they shed light on the mechanics of the source [22:50]
decimation indeed, and some of source must shine through with a mechanical generator [22:51]
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decimation re: headphone "muffs": I used these sometimes in the office: (330-1198) [22:55]
assbot Racing Scanners: Frequently Asked Questions and Listening Tips [22:55]
decimation but after about 3 hours it feels like you have your head in a vise [22:55]
assbot Enlist! [22:55]
BingoBoingo benkay: Twas I. It is a manual bot. [22:56]
benkay hahaha excellent [22:56]
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Oglafbot Hello benkay [22:57]
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benkay i don't watch nicks/joins/parts [22:58]
benkay i've not customized this irc client to both show those things but not display notifications for them [22:58]
BingoBoingo benkay: For a thing that updates weekly it seems the optimum haw to handle feed generation [22:58]
decimation what proxy bot do you guys use generally? [22:58]
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benkay curse of emacs - it can behave any way you want it to, provided you put the time in to make it so. [22:59]
benkay decimation: emacs running on a vps, mosh for flaky mobile connections [22:59]
decimation interesting, you use ERC to host proxy? [23:00]
mircea_popescu so it turns out that ssh specifies ports with -p, but scp specifies ports with -P and -p is something else entirely. [23:02]
mircea_popescu that's half an hour i'm never getting back. [23:02]
mircea_popescu !up sheldonthomas [23:03]
-assbot- You voiced sheldonthomas for 30 minutes. [23:03]
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sheldonthomas just swinging by wondering why is down [23:03]
sheldonthomas or is it just some tacit geoip blocking [23:03]
mircea_popescu sheldonthomas you can start here [23:03]
assbot MPEx status update pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:03]
fluffypony the owner was arrested and deported to Argentina [23:03]
sheldonthomas sheesh you can’t be serious [23:04]
fluffypony I believe they're about to start waterboarding him [23:04]
fluffypony the Argentinians are rough [23:04]
mircea_popescu fluffypony teaboarding actually. [23:04]
fluffypony werd [23:04]
mircea_popescu im so fucking full of camomille i could burst. [23:04]
decimation yeah I've been hit by that ssh/scp thing many times, enraging [23:04]
mircea_popescu decimation just... why the fuck you know ? WHY!11 [23:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00300504 = 3.005 BTC [-] {5} [23:04]
decimation turn the screwdriver clockwise screw turns, turn it counterclockwise and it explodes [23:05]
mircea_popescu any source of finite entropy would eventually exhaust << this breaks physics. [23:05]
mircea_popescu one of the core (if unknown) principles underscoring all creation is that the qty of entropy in a system remains the same if it's cut in half. [23:05]
mircea_popescu it may not be as accessible now, but it's there. [23:06]
mircea_popescu this is fundamentally why reductive (and most not-so-reductive) physicalism does not work. [23:06]
mircea_popescu and about as close as one can get to physically proving divinity. [23:06]
decimation indeed, it makes determinism persuasive [23:06]
mircea_popescu no, the contrary. in the quest to make determinism infeasible, it requires some sort of entropy reservoir outside-the-world. [23:07]
mircea_popescu basically god is just this very large dice assemblage in non-space, feeding all the quarks dicerolls. [23:07]
sheldonthomas six drives are bricked huh [23:07]
mircea_popescu sheldonthomas anyway, that was then. meanwhile a lot of progress'been made (notices of which scattered all over the log), and we're coming out of da woods. [23:07]
mircea_popescu !s mpex [23:07]
assbot 24646 results for 'mpex' : [23:07]
sheldonthomas what’s to be expected when you finish the migration? everything back in place, accounts and the like? [23:08]
BingoBoingo [23:08]
assbot Will Regulations Shutdown Pools? - Coin Fire [23:08]
mircea_popescu sheldonthomas yes. [23:08]
mircea_popescu new mpex key, but otherwise nothing much. [23:09]
decimation I guess I was picturing "determinism" as "God sets the outcome of the quark-dicerolls in the way He sees fit" [23:11]
sheldonthomas disappointing, albeit understandable [23:11]
mircea_popescu "The U.S. government is rapidly expanding the number of names it accepts for inclusion on its terrorist watch list, with more than 1.5 million added in the last five years, according to numbers divulged by the government in a civil lawsuit." << hey asciilifeform look at that! what was gulag, 50mn ? [23:11]
mircea_popescu sheldonthomas what's disappointing you mean ? [23:12]
mircea_popescu decimation a ok, then yes, pure determinism. [23:12]
sheldonthomas this downtime [23:13]
mircea_popescu obviously if one applied the same standards to quarks as it does to bitcoins, one could never trust the fucking quark. obviously quark-nsa is behind it. [23:13]
mircea_popescu sheldonthomas ah. yes. [23:13]
mircea_popescu i have this impression your name's familiar, any idea whence ? [23:13]
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sheldonthomas not really. i occasionally linger on assets. maybe we met back at the bruce wager bitcoin conference. i sat in the 2nd row [23:15]
sheldonthomas *wagner [23:15]
fluffypony third seat from the left? [23:17]
fluffypony with the bushy hair and the moustache? [23:17]
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decimation re: scp/ssh user interface << Herr Moldbug's rant on this topic is apropos: "The error is that control interfaces must not be intelligent. Briefly, intelligent user interfaces should be limited to applications in which the user does not expect to control the behavior of the product. If the product is used as a tool, its interface should be as [23:17]
decimation unintelligent as possible. Stupid is predictable; predictable is learnable; learnable is usable." [23:17]
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assbot Unqualified Reservations: Wolfram Alpha and hubristic user interfaces [23:17]
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decimation I would note that Mr. Wolfram & co. are slowly migrating Mathmatica to be "pay us to use Wolfram Alpha in the cloud" [23:18]
mircea_popescu sheldonthomas got a wot acct ? [23:18]
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sheldonthomas i’ve lost my fucking wot identity more times than i like to admit [23:20]
mthreat it's ok, your other identity will admit it for you [23:21]
mircea_popescu not so smart. [23:21]
mircea_popescu lmao [23:21]
sheldonthomas i know man. i had reviews from trades in 2011 with people like justmoon and then i lost that harddrive and thus that wot identity [23:21]
sheldonthomas mthreat so true [23:22]
nubbins` protip: offsite backups [23:22]
fluffypony or the Usagi Backup System [23:26]
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thestringpuller yes usagi still has investors [23:27]
thestringpuller funny how that works [23:27]
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nubbins` some guy who bought a print off me yesterday now wants to use it for his band's next album cover [23:30]
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benkay ;;gettrust xanthyos [23:30]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask xanthyos! Trust relationship from user benkay to user xanthyos: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Tue May 13 21:36:26 2014 [23:30]
BingoBoingo [23:31]
assbot Domain Registry Of America Suspended By ICANN [23:31]
xanthyos benkay: i'm a friend of danielpbarron 's [23:31]
benkay so i read [23:31]
mircea_popescu !up xanthyos [23:32]
-assbot- You voiced xanthyos without time-limit. [23:32]
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nubbins` !up sheldonthomas [23:33]
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mircea_popescu jesus what passes for process in the us these days. [23:35]
mircea_popescu Q : "ie. mining your competitors’ data to send unsolicited and misleading marketing messages isn’t allowed, so if you didn’t breach this clause how exactly did you send those notices?" [23:35]
mircea_popescu A : "none of your fucking business. door's that way." [23:35]
thickasthieves <@assbot> Domain Registry Of America Suspended By ICANN --- fuk ya! [23:36]
thickasthieves all the data they needed was public [23:37]
thickasthieves clients always asking me what the deal is when they get DRA letters [23:38]
thestringpuller nubbins`: so are you gonna sell him the album cover rights? [23:38]
thestringpuller lol [23:38]
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mircea_popescu "I actually have been thrilled to see that finally there is movement to replace the straight access to /dev/random and /dev/urandom: Ted's patch to implement a getrandom() system call that can be made compatible with OpenBSD's own getentropy() in user space. And even more I'm happy to see that at least one of the OpenBSD/LibreSSL developers pitching in to help shape the interface. [23:38]
mircea_popescu Dropping out the egd support made me puzzled for a moment, but then I realized that there is no point in using egd to feed the randomness to the process, you just need to feed entropy to the kernel, and let the process get it normally. I have had, unfortunately, quite a bit of experience with entropy-generating daemons, and I wonder if this might be the right time to suggest getting a new multi-source daemon out." << a [23:38]
mircea_popescu sciilifeform do you read this thing like i do, ie, a nsa-sponsored attempt to survive the "everyone has cardano rng on board" apocalypse by making good entropy sources still circumventable ? [23:38]
thickasthieves maybe DRA can move on to Namecoin [23:39]
mircea_popescu o look, irc breaks names huh. asciilifeform ^ [23:39]
nubbins` thestringpuller: blonde-dyed mullet kid with a skateboard making 40 tapes for his band [23:41]
nubbins` absolutely :D [23:41]
thickasthieves lol, so my wife has been buying these cat litter coupons on ebay for mos, free box, any size [23:42]
thickasthieves she just learned it's a fraud [23:42]
BingoBoingo do you read this thing like i do, ie, a nsa-sponsored attempt to survive the "everyone has cardano rng on board" apocalypse by making good entropy sources still circumventable ? << I read either that or some kernel afficianado who would buy a unix pacemaker [23:42]
thickasthieves we mustve gone through like 50 boxes [23:43]
nubbins` ha [23:43]
thickasthieves she;s all embarassed [23:43]
fluffypony it's a scam as in you get no boxes? [23:44]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves i don't follow, so did the coupons yield boxes or not ? [23:44]
thickasthieves yes [23:45]
thickasthieves grcoery clerks just dont klnow its a fraud yet [23:45]
BingoBoingo OMG USG Side channel attack on TaT via Ebay-Wife interaction [23:47]
mircea_popescu uh [23:47]
mircea_popescu so wait, basically your wife used some paper altcoin to defraud grocery chains ? [23:47]
fluffypony can I buy shares in this scam? [23:48]
BingoBoingo That's what I'm reading [23:48]
mircea_popescu decimation here's more. sha1 is implemented as "sha1sum". sha256 however is implemented as "sha256". then sha512 is... "sha512sum" [23:49]
mircea_popescu fuckwits. [23:49]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nsa 'expellas furca, tamen usque recurret.' [23:50]
asciilifeform who expects people to jump into the biodiesel fermenter on their own will. [23:51]
BingoBoingo Some dude wants to turn Linux into System/z [23:53]
BingoBoingo Or sell System/z systems [23:53]
benkay can one do merged-mining on a premined coin? [23:54]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: lol at trying to rationally monitor or quota resources on x86 box. [23:54]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I haven't read the comments yet, but I wonder how many read it as a proposal for linux developments as opposed to IBM advertorial [23:56]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nsa-sponsored attempt to survive << they won't really worry until wintel stops being a thing. [23:56]
mircea_popescu !s parachute [23:56]
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asciilifeform lol [23:56]
mircea_popescu :D [23:56]
mircea_popescu dude this entire bitcoin-assets system with its tools is turning me into a fucking singularity, im like brain on steroids. [23:56]
mircea_popescu fucking love it. [23:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu didn't have 'grep' before ? [23:57]
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