Forum logs for 18 Mar 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

*	BingoBoingo drilling python some more realizing to do what I want prolly need to drill perl and C	[00:00]
decimation	BingoBoingo: apparently you could just drive to to colorado	[00:00]
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BingoBoingo	decimation: On St. Patricks day? After mircea_popescu lost the Berkshire bet? I'm fine taking in the Aurorae as a faint green glow.	[00:01]
decimation	BingoBoingo: I don't mind python, but realize it's just kind of a c with lisp ideas thrown in	[00:02]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo: I don't mind python, but realize it's just kind of a c with lisp ideas thrown in << I'm just looking to populate a toolbox.	[00:07]
BingoBoingo	For mundane taks	[00:07]
BingoBoingo	*tasks	[00:07]
*	asciilifeform has a radio scanner running for unrelated reasons, picked up the well-known alex jones, quoth 'soros funded ferguson...' - then disappears in jamming noise	[00:08]
asciilifeform	or possibly the solar flare	[00:08]
decimation	heh	[00:08]
BingoBoingo	or possibly the solar flare << Direction of solar flare fun from here is line of site to downtown (granted not huge downtown) and walmart LED lights.	[00:09]
BingoBoingo	Maybe placebo, but at last check tint to lights a bit greener than usual for such clear skies.	[00:10]
decimation	the aurora is actually caused by particles spiraling down the the magnetic field lines, the solar flare that sent them here was over days ago	[00:10]
BingoBoingo	This being middle west though nothing about sky can be trusted.	[00:10]
asciilifeform	decimation: elementary 'dynamo' situation	[00:10]
asciilifeform	same as nuke emp.	[00:10]
BingoBoingo	decimation: I thought it made contact about 24 hours ago, not quite finished with contact?	[00:11]
decimation	yeah pretty much. that's why it causes a danger to long conductors, sets up currents through 'ground'	[00:11]
BingoBoingo	same as nuke emp. << Speed differs	[00:11]
asciilifeform	well yes.	[00:11]
asciilifeform	'...no survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' -- radio	[00:11]
*	asciilifeform lulz1ng	[00:12]
decimation	BingoBoingo: the main body of particles has passed, but the earth's magnetic field is still bouncing around in its wake	[00:12]
asciilifeform	'...put a wall between you and... irs'	[00:12]
BingoBoingo	'...no survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' -- radio << About as easy to cast as lead	[00:12]
asciilifeform	but wtf.	[00:12]
decimation	asciilifeform: are you listening to 'coast to coast' on am?	[00:12]
asciilifeform	that's some serious sp4m	[00:12]
nubbins`	you pick up some bizarre things on shortwave sometimes	[00:12]
asciilifeform	4.85 Mhz	[00:12]
decimation	shortwave in the us is a desert of crazy	[00:13]
decimation	at least, broadcast anyway	[00:13]
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*	BingoBoingo steeling up for the prospect of walking halway to St Rose at for the prospect of seeing a smidge of green in the sky.	[00:14]
danielpbarron	i'm reading the quoted radio text in that alex jones voice in my head	[00:14]
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*	BingoBoingo would consider driving if he hadn't started the libations 10 hours ago.	[00:14]
decimation	asciilifeform: you might be listening to WWCR transmitter #3	[00:15]
decimation	schedule here http://www.wwcr.com/	[00:15]
assbot	WWCR.com \| Home - WWCR Shortwave, Nashville, Tennessee, USA ... ( http://bit.ly/1Crd8Td )	[00:15]
decimation	it could also be a harmonic of some local am broadcaster	[00:16]
*	BingoBoingo thinks eventually qntra should distribute RSS over number station	[00:16]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: if you wanna pay for this...	[00:17]
nubbins`	;;google raspberry pi pirate radio	[00:17]
gribble	Raspberry Pirate Radio - Make: \| Make:: ; Start a Pirate Radio Station with a Raspberry Pi and a Single Wire: ; Weekend Projects - Raspberry Pirate Radio - YouTube:	[00:17]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Give it two decades. 1 GW at 440 HZ	[00:17]
nubbins`	works until you get v&	[00:17]
BingoBoingo	When mircea_popescu's comfotable in New Reno should be perfectly feasible	[00:18]
BingoBoingo	What else is the Hoover Damn or its remains going to be sending power too?	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	Is using encryption suspicious? Half of Americans say yes, according to Pew << half of americans also think an mit degree means basic electric competence.	[00:19]
asciilifeform	goddammnit	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	?	[00:21]
asciilifeform	[censored].155 Mhz has my keyboard	[00:21]
BingoBoingo	So in News, disorderly conduct has moved from series of incompletable bench trials to Hearing today.	[00:21]
asciilifeform	fucktardation	[00:21]
*	asciilifeform was actually looking for precisely it, and found it	[00:21]
BingoBoingo	Hearing in May	[00:22]
decimation	asciilifeform: my suggestion: lots of ferrite	[00:22]
asciilifeform	not coming from the cable	[00:24]
asciilifeform	(shielded)	[00:24]
BingoBoingo	Erect around mudhut, ground well? https://gensteel.com/	[00:24]
assbot	Steel Buildings \| Steel Building & Metal Building Quotes ... ( http://bit.ly/1EuGv6e )	[00:24]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: not in mud hut	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	'...no survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' << this is actually a lot more sensible than it seems. silver has some good chars for making a bullet.	[00:25]
asciilifeform	vs pb ?	[00:26]
asciilifeform	how ?	[00:26]
BingoBoingo	Silver's a bit harder, still soft enough for rifling. Just not quite as dense as pb	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform because doesn't blunt quite as much on impact	[00:27]
*	asciilifeform found yet another harmonic	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	less like frozen shit, so to speak	[00:27]
*	asciilifeform is -not- happy with his discovery	[00:27]
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BingoBoingo	Excellent chumpatron could be had selling silver bullets at $5 - 45 per round for "When your life depends on it"	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	i think it's being done already.	[00:28]
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*	mircea_popescu sits patiently waiting to see what alf finds in his kbd now	[00:29]
BingoBoingo	Of all the silly james bond premises the man with the gold gun seemed one of the more feasible ones.	[00:29]
asciilifeform	it's an ordinary '80s ps/2 kbd.	[00:29]
asciilifeform	i knew they are loud, did not know -how-	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo gold is pretty atrocious a material to make guns out of.	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform is it audible if unplugged ?	[00:31]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: The gun itself yes, the bullet, no	[00:31]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: +5dB when key repeating	[00:31]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: otherwise just atmospheric static uncorrelated with distance of antenna from device	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	sure, gold bullet might work.	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	not so different from what the us is doing currently.	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	"would have been cheaper to buy afghanistan than to conquer it was"	[00:32]
BingoBoingo	Du's prolly close to the optimal choice though	[00:32]
asciilifeform	... aaaand another harmonic	[00:33]
scoopbot	New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/so-hows-magic-work/	[00:35]
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BingoBoingo	!up gabrielradio	[00:36]
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asciilifeform	.... and another harmonic	[00:41]
decimation	asciilifeform: it could be from the cord	[00:42]
asciilifeform	mnope.	[00:42]
asciilifeform	specifically keyboard microcontroller.	[00:42]
decimation	asciilifeform: yes, but something is radiating it presumably?	[00:43]
asciilifeform	decimation: scan matrix	[00:43]
decimation	asciilifeform: there might be little you can do unless you are willing to modify the internal circuitry	[00:48]
asciilifeform	decimation: more than willing	[00:48]
decimation	some ferrite might help, but it takes quite a bit to make a difference	[00:48]
decimation	www.yccc.org/Articles/W1HIS/CommonModeChokesW1HIS2006Apr06.pdf < I recommend this	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	actually... just add rng in circuit.	[00:50]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: think, scan matrix	[00:50]
decimation	common mode chokes create an impedence to the common mode circuit - you would have to pass both signal and ground through them. a mix #43 toroid with several turns of both signal and ground would help	[00:51]
asciilifeform	http://www.dribin.org/dave/keyboard/one_html << likbez	[00:51]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1EuIIyC )	[00:51]
asciilifeform	decimation: not coming from the cable!	[00:52]
decimation	asciilifeform: I understand, I'm talking about the connection between the microprocessor and the scan array	[00:52]
asciilifeform	the array itself appears to radiate also.	[00:52]
decimation	yes	[00:52]
asciilifeform	which is entirely unsurprising	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i understnad how the matrix thing works.	[00:52]
asciilifeform	to anyone who was awake in kindergarten	[00:52]
asciilifeform	likbez for ze n00bz	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	fact remains you can add a chunk to generate fake keypresses right next to it.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	you are immune to it, yourself, because wires.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	spy however can't discern	[00:53]
decimation	the other solution is to insert a differential filter (lowpass) in the actual scan array circuit	[00:53]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: ideal materials for this artistic project is controller from identical kbd, with keyswitch faker attached	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	well, or can use your own rng.	[00:53]
decimation	which may have obvious side effects on the circuitry	[00:54]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: yes but to have precisely same radiating profile	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	well yea, will take some tinkering.	[00:54]
*	asciilifeform could probably achieve more with an actual spectrum analyzer, but would have to sell organs	[00:55]
decimation	does your o-scope have a 'spectrum analyzer' mode?	[00:55]
asciilifeform	decimation: yes but entirely useless for this application.	[00:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147533 @ 0.00032249 = 47.5779 BTC [+] {2}	[00:56]
asciilifeform	decimation: the rf amp is the golden toilet	[00:56]
asciilifeform	i only have the equivalent of a 'copper toilet' here.	[00:56]
decimation	actually your scanner would be a halfass alternative	[00:57]
decimation	you can at least measure relative signal strength at select frequencies	[00:58]
asciilifeform	decimation: what do you suppose i was using.	[00:58]
asciilifeform	(it's an ancient rs232-controlled scanner, and handheld antenna over 50ohm coax)	[00:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42298 @ 0.00033536 = 14.1851 BTC [+]	[00:59]
decimation	heh the icom pcr-1000?	[00:59]
asciilifeform	100	[00:59]
decimation	I have the 1000, it's a good unit	[01:00]
*	asciilifeform wonders if -everybody- has this one	[01:00]
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decimation	there was a windows tool that turned the pcr-1000 into a spectrum analyzer - not fast but it kinda worked	[01:03]
asciilifeform	any machine-controllable scanner with machine-readable output is a (very) poor man's spectrum analyzer.	[01:04]
decimation	aye. the problem is that the sweep rate is usually very low	[01:05]
decimation	and the res bandwidth is not small	[01:05]
decimation	yeah here's the tool: http://qsy.to/pcr/talkpcr.html < works for pcr-100	[01:06]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1EuJXOi )	[01:06]
asciilifeform	to round out the keyboard thread, i am quite close to being convinced of the necessity of keyboard with optical fiber for mechanism	[01:06]
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asciilifeform	or, failing that, mechanical vibration (as in early 'spark gap' cad tablets of the '70s)	[01:07]
decimation	asciilifeform: you could use the telegraph keyer like that ru chick	[01:07]
asciilifeform	decimation: damnably poor idea - easy 'optical tempest' intercept if anyone can see your body move	[01:07]
decimation	well, yeah but presumably normal keyboard is also vulnerable?	[01:08]
asciilifeform	not to same extent	[01:08]
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BingoBoingo	!up goofythedog	[01:09]
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goofythedog	Whats up	[01:09]
BingoBoingo	nuts	[01:09]
goofythedog	Why	[01:10]
BingoBoingo	puppies	[01:10]
goofythedog	Yoh got pups?	[01:10]
goofythedog	Yeh	[01:12]
decimation	asciilifeform: it's a shame that nobody produces an 'englebart violin' chorded entry device	[01:14]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 136010 @ 0.00032473 = 44.1665 BTC [-] {2}	[01:20]
*	asciilifeform recalls reading patents for fiber keyboards but never saw any hint of such a thing in production.	[01:23]
asciilifeform	though the 'how' is trivial.	[01:23]
asciilifeform	http://benkrasnow.blogspot.com/2011/03/diy-scanning-electron-microscope.html << unrelated	[01:26]
assbot	Ben Krasnow: DIY scanning electron microscope - Overview video ... ( http://bit.ly/1wYj9pB )	[01:26]
decimation	lol that's awesome	[01:35]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19864 @ 0.00030404 = 6.0395 BTC [-]	[01:46]
BingoBoingo	!up shesek	[01:48]
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asciilifeform	http://cryptome.org/2012-info/obama-moron/0021.htm << vintage rf lulz	[01:58]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1xdmzW0 )	[01:58]
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decimation	asciilifeform: one wonders why some of this kind of thing has appeared to 'stick' to hillary but hasn't to obama	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	Subject: Welcome to Bitstamp From: "Bitstamp"	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	nuts.	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	if anyone was wondering how those "users" keep going up...	[02:12]
decimation	mircea_popescu: the first rule of customer service is to ignore the customer	[02:12]
mircea_popescu	i am not a customer.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	they are spamming what's most likely a bought list.	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	" Content preview: Dear Alare Kool, thank you for registering at Bitstamp exchange service! At this point you have just contributed a great deal to future of decentralized monetary market."	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	in other words "redditards, welcome!"	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	"grammer, potional."	[02:14]
decimation	re: fake drug seizures < if you drill down in the report, you find that 96% of the 'ditchweed' was destroyed in just one state: indiana	[02:17]
decimation	I'm sure they found a way to game the feds out of bezzlars in exchange for piles of fake weed	[02:18]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: sounds like forged headers (why would the actual 'bitstamp' spam ? wtf is the point)	[02:19]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: do the links contained in the turd point to the genuine site ?	[02:19]
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decimation	lolz > http://blog.mdsec.co.uk/2015/03/bruteforcing-ios-screenlock.html < can bruteforce the 4-digit pin on the iphone 5 in 40 seconds	[02:20]
assbot	MDSec Blog: Apple iOS Hardware Assisted Screenlock Bruteforce ... ( http://bit.ly/1xdp0bd )	[02:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62274 @ 0.00029596 = 18.4306 BTC [-]	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i dunno, so they can claim the most valuable email address in bitcoin space as "a customer" ?	[02:22]
asciilifeform	'What is surprising however is that this still works even with the “Erase data after 10 attempts” configuration setting enabled. Our initial analysis indicates that the IP Box is able to bypass this restriction by connecting directly to the iPhone’s power source and aggressively cutting the power after each failed PIN attempt, but before the attempt has been synchronized to flash memory.' << mega-l0l!	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	Received: from mail.bitstamp.net ([54.235.132.61]:55581 helo=bitstamp.net)	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	it's them alright.	[02:22]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: someone signed you up as a gag ?	[02:23]
decimation	asciilifeform: yeah. apple supposedly spent years trying to make the device secure	[02:23]
decimation	but it has encrypted storage!!!	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform right.	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	Please write down the following login information	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	Client ID: 051013	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	Password: /lf!iqkR7d!1	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	The above password has been automatically generated. You should change it as	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	soon as you log in for the first time.	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	this, you will note, in a PLAINTEXT EMAIL.	[02:24]
BingoBoingo	http://trilema.com/2015/so-hows-magic-work/#comment-113152	[02:25]
assbot	So how's magic work ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xwFQfJ )	[02:25]
asciilifeform	l0ltr0n	[02:25]
asciilifeform	re: iPnohe bruteforcer - apple could have easily written 1) update counter 2) validate code instead of 1) validate code 2) update counter	[02:25]
asciilifeform	but - didn't.	[02:25]
asciilifeform	not that it would have made a serious difference in the end -	[02:26]
asciilifeform	but shows how much of a fuck was actually given	[02:26]
decimation	asciilifeform: the ultimate problem is not actually having a secure terminal, but pretending that you do	[02:26]
asciilifeform	no shit	[02:26]
decimation	if you read the apple whitepaper on the iphone 5 security, you see they play all kinds of shell games attempting to keep keys in temporary buffers so that the storage can be 'encrypted' while still able to receive texts, unlock screen, etc	[02:27]
asciilifeform	'fried ice'	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo was just answering that.	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	but shows how much of a fuck was actually given << or how much of a fuck was available to give.	[02:28]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: It's just the cascade of fail yudo shits out	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	deup ftw.	[02:29]
decimation	well, they did actually appear to spend alot of time 'giving a fuck'	[02:29]
decimation	it's just that they failed to deliver anything	[02:29]
decimation	actually, since apple controls the complete stack all the way down to silicon, they are in a unique position to actually deliever, but didn't	[02:30]
asciilifeform	deliver what?	[02:30]
decimation	you know, actual security	[02:30]
asciilifeform	-actual- means auditable	[02:30]
decimation	appropriately partitioned code and data	[02:30]
asciilifeform	and no longer fits in pocket.	[02:30]
asciilifeform	or, likely, in the room you're sitting in.	[02:31]
asciilifeform	but certainly not in pocket.	[02:31]
decimation	and doesn't copy bits off the air and save them to 'encrypted storage' without intervention	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/pisatii/ << btw, ancient sf of mine. the central idea being that et come, their home atmosphere is heavy in amonia, so they have some special suits to recycle the amonia, which somewhat leak... which leaks smell like... stale piss.	[02:31]
assbot	Pisatii pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xwGwBJ )	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	so the et are known as ... the pissed upons.	[02:31]
asciilifeform	l0l	[02:32]
mircea_popescu	also they want two things from earth : hot peppers	[02:32]
mircea_popescu	and cocaine.	[02:32]
mircea_popescu	because the hot peppers are like lsd + speed, while cocaine is basically sugar++	[02:32]
decimation	I've heard that chicken farmers actually become somewhat immune to the extreme ammonia smell	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	and they wanted to go to where cocaine is made and congratulate the people on their great discovery.	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	"Va dati seama, primul pamintean decorat de extraterestri urma sa fie urmasul lui Pablo Escobar."	[02:33]
decimation	usg helps make roundup resistant cocaine	[02:34]
BingoBoingo	decimation> usg helps make roundup resistant cocaine << Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the cartels innovated that themselves	[02:39]
decimation	possibly, but they could probably get started by picking the plants that survived the spraying	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	well they wouldn't be picking the ones that didn't.	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Around here nearly everything is roundup resistant now	[02:45]
decimation	heh yeah, but does it reproduce without monsanto?	[02:46]
BingoBoingo	Oh, I'm not talking the crops	[02:46]
ben_vulpes	check it out, she's got a wiki page an' errything : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanti_Dynamite << one really can buy anything	[02:46]
assbot	Shanti Dynamite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1xwI6U9 )	[02:46]
ben_vulpes	"Parents divorced at age of 9 years..." << wow jeez that's some painfully bad shit	[02:47]
ben_vulpes	"it was cold and completely different to Africa"	[02:48]
ben_vulpes	;;later tell brendafdez hey where's that shopping list	[02:49]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[02:49]
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mircea_popescu	i imagine it sucks.	[02:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23710 @ 0.00031348 = 7.4326 BTC [+]	[02:53]
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ben_vulpes	the shopping list?	[03:02]
mircea_popescu	!up megadeth	[03:03]
-assbot-	You voiced megadeth for 30 minutes.	[03:03]
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megadeth	Mircea, a personal thank you from my side for 1) Placing your money on the bitbet. 2) Spending your personal wealth in the well being of BTC.	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	a ?	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[03:07]
ben_vulpes	oh man that video of subcontinental sweets is baaaad	[03:10]
ben_vulpes	i have this idea in my mind that people know what stuff is i guess. << i keep falling for this one too.	[03:18]
ben_vulpes	if i had a vanilla linux box here, it'd likely be no sweat << heard of a thing called "vagrant"? "virtualbox"?	[03:18]
ben_vulpes	;;later tell nubbins "if i had a vanilla linux box here, it'd likely be no sweat" << heard of a thing called "vagrant"? "virtualbox"?	[03:19]
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ben_vulpes	i'd never had a ball boy before and it. was. sweet. < heh.	[03:21]
ben_vulpes	man the temptation to quote out of context is p. strong.	[03:21]
ben_vulpes	[18:57] but for one thing it's bullshit and for the other thing, it doesn't really wash. << nor do the workmen, and for that matter why would anyone want to be of the unwashed masses?	[03:24]
ben_vulpes	[19:01] really there was absolutely no reason (apart from their tim swansonesque contemptuous idiocy) to make the nodes visible. << feel free to block 0.5.3.1 nodes if you can find them, reddit.	[03:25]
ben_vulpes	[19:53] indescript house in omaha, married, with children. about as boring as it gets. << orgies on the yangtzee with bill gates	[03:31]
ben_vulpes	hey speaking of where are the eager young sluts to be found in bsas?	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes i was talking about the nodes they were using tro "spy on bitcoin" aka "repackage freely available information for the bezzle idiots"	[03:31]
ben_vulpes	i brought my own last time so didn't have cause to go seeking, and no time this time.	[03:32]
ben_vulpes	i'm...aware.	[03:33]
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ben_vulpes	;;later tell jurov ben_vulpes rly? you want patches for makeshift build scripts? << look either you run diff or the n people running the list do.	[03:35]
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ben_vulpes	https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/577976775449300992 << this is the most badass thing	[03:47]
assbot	/hashtag/OpenBSD?src=hash 5.6 on an Apple iMac G4. http://t.co/vx5qS4N7WV	[03:47]
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ben_vulpes	i am emailing my father right now to see if that model is still in his basement	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes errywhere. if you folks feel like it we'll go check out the local bdsm club.	[03:48]
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mircea_popescu	otherwise, prostitution being legal, and the universities being in session...	[03:49]
ben_vulpes	your reports of the local bdsm scene are not a sales pitch.	[03:52]
ben_vulpes	i've club sesso right down the street.	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	im not a salesman.	[03:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85996 @ 0.00029305 = 25.2011 BTC [-] {2}	[03:53]
ben_vulpes	well have you found something good?	[03:53]
ben_vulpes	all i hear is "jesus fuck these people are retarded"	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	that i want to share ?	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	if it makes you feel any better i was saying the same in teh us.	[03:54]
ben_vulpes	i'd not presume to encroach on your area	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	neways, you can has list of pickup places, ie, where the girls go to work.	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	not that you'd conceivably need it, what they do here is print little 3x2 papers and stick them everywhere.	[03:55]
ben_vulpes	anyways, no, thank you, i'll not impose that on the gentle asshats	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	lol which ones ?	[03:55]
ben_vulpes	the bdsm club heh	[03:56]
mircea_popescu	ah	[03:56]
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mircea_popescu	what's this club sesso thning ?	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	!up shesek	[03:57]
-assbot-	You voiced shesek for 30 minutes.	[03:57]
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mircea_popescu	oh, swinger's club. the local thing i visited and cursed closed meanwhile.	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck is ron jeremy	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	that disco face looks oddly familiar	[03:58]
ben_vulpes	oh i'm bashing that	[03:59]
mircea_popescu	"Club Sesso is Portland Oregon's upscale, swingers club."	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	i, see.	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	is it any good ?	[04:00]
ben_vulpes	on a previous branch, i'm far more interested in a) vino b) carne and c) tango than the local whatever whatever	[04:00]
ben_vulpes	some nights	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes we're going to this great tango thing	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	YUSSS	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	boss u da bes	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	"Have fun, meet new friends and become a part of the Sesso Community. Become a volunteer at Club Sesso!" dude...	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	it can't be doing THAT well.	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	is it one of those silly 'performances' where dinner is stupid expensive and you watch a theatrical thinger?	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: well if you're going to the events listed on the homepage for noobs...	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes yes, except good.	[04:02]
ben_vulpes	look i'm making a reference to the plethora of local fauna.	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	unless they fuck it up, which... argentines are famously unreliable.	[04:02]
ben_vulpes	sesso's an intake and filter point.	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	for coughars ?	[04:03]
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ben_vulpes	mk well i've got my intel applied to 'milongas that don't mind shitty enthusiastic gringos too much' and also 'milongas where i should just sit and watch' as backup so i'm not terrifically concerned.	[04:03]
mircea_popescu	"Clean Up Your Own Mess" "upscale" wut!	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	errything in america is self serve by now innit.	[04:04]
ben_vulpes	go write an article	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	no, i'd rather pester you :D	[04:04]
ben_vulpes	outta mah face!	[04:04]
ben_vulpes	so actually entertainingly, one of the decent sex parties happens in the warehouse where i used to house the boys.	[04:05]
ben_vulpes	imagine my surprise.	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	anyway, we're also going to the place's best porterhouse steak imo, so there is that.	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	boys = dogs ?	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	decent = indecent ?	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	y u kids gotta use code on my god damned lawn!	[04:05]
ben_vulpes	infer from context!	[04:05]
ben_vulpes	do a thing you hate and despise!	[04:06]
ben_vulpes	uh no programmers.	[04:06]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: y el vino?	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	there's no wine. sorry.	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	the truck broke down.	[04:08]
ben_vulpes	WHAT	[04:08]
ben_vulpes	you drank it all	[04:08]
ben_vulpes	stop lying	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	normally we get it on friday...	[04:08]
ben_vulpes	bwahahaha	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	the cat's eaten it.	[04:08]
ben_vulpes	stahp i'll wake the girl	[04:08]
ben_vulpes	that's an excellent argentine	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	sorry ben, im affraid the wine's more runny than you'd like it./	[04:09]
ben_vulpes	please don't tell me	[04:09]
ben_vulpes	the viscosity is nearly that of water	[04:09]
ben_vulpes	simply will not do	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	there's licorice ?	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	and non alcoholic cider.	[04:10]
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ben_vulpes	and some stale crackers, no doubt.	[04:11]
ben_vulpes	OH THERE'S LICORICE IS THER	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	(tru story : mp was once at a guy's bday party, very smart coder guy. the party - total cockfest. mp's escort only girl in the room. mp sighs and goes got any booze ?	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	answer comes back as...	[04:11]
ben_vulpes	o no	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	so mp goes "go and buy some vodka". everyone (~dozen ppls) gets drunk offa half the bottle. girl drinks other half. her eyebrows slowly but surely keep rising all through the night)	[04:12]
ben_vulpes	"the last remaining bastion " >> http://40.media.tumblr.com/bab78269d215cf75ed1df862a19e1494/tumblr_mz3c8j5Dmq1s0f482o1_1280.jpg << oh homegirl's about to have some fun	[04:12]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1EpNWcw )	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	to my great shame, those eyebrows are the only thing i recall of this girl.	[04:13]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes maybe they just wanna play conect-r with her.	[04:13]
ben_vulpes	no but look at her face	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	she looks like she's done this before.	[04:14]
ben_vulpes	yeah.	[04:14]
ben_vulpes	you know that gangbang where ladybird's really running the show?	[04:15]
ben_vulpes	every good one?	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	which is 80% of them ?	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	right	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	it's unavoidable, she's the server, scheduling naturally resides with her, which...	[04:15]
ben_vulpes	oh ffs	[04:15]
ben_vulpes	must you really	[04:15]
ben_vulpes	you see people this is actually the vile shit	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	?	[04:16]
ben_vulpes	we're talking about ordinary gangbangs	[04:16]
ben_vulpes	and mircea_popescu must MUST MUST start talking about servers	[04:16]
ben_vulpes	fucking disgusting, i tell you.	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	do not hate me because i'm an abstract thinker	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	or ima complain to elikbez'r yadukoksky	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	or w/e his name is.	[04:17]
ben_vulpes	Successfully added a rating of 1 for brendafdez with note: no such thing as a chick that can pgp << hawwwww	[04:19]
ben_vulpes	and even taught to a girl << contrary to public opinion this is not really a feat	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	yeah what's with all teh sexisms!	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	buncha chicks in assbot's wot.	[04:21]
ben_vulpes	babes are people too and generally smarter than the doodz in the w0t	[04:21]
ben_vulpes	come onnnnn log only 300 lines left	[04:21]
ben_vulpes	[03:20] '...no survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' << this is actually a lot more sensible than it seems. silver has some good chars for making a bullet. << no no no no no and again no	[04:21]
ben_vulpes	bullets are dead	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	...	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	what do you think sperm is ?	[04:22]
ben_vulpes	to give away even more of the game what we're after is mini solids with vanes in the exhaust that protrude out from the projectile body.	[04:22]
ben_vulpes	kinetic energy can be purchased with different distributions of mass and gas.	[04:23]
ben_vulpes	rifling PAUGH	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	...	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	what is this, superhero quailshot ?	[04:23]
ben_vulpes	chip and servos.	[04:25]
ben_vulpes	not precisely buckshot, no.	[04:25]
*	mircea_popescu is kinda happy with guns as they are.	[04:25]
ben_vulpes	include pyrotechnics for...pyrotechnics.	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	one of the few fields humanity got mostly right.	[04:25]
ben_vulpes	guns do not give you air superiority.	[04:26]
ben_vulpes	cannot demolish cover.	[04:26]
ben_vulpes	myriad applications i'll leave for eager students.	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	"air superiority" is for the birds.	[04:27]
ben_vulpes	>.<	[04:28]
ben_vulpes	pluck them mid-flight	[04:28]
ben_vulpes	ugh i can't unsee that pun	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	if what you're doing requires "air superiority" you're essentially trying to construct a nuclear-powered lawnmover	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	mower*	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	these don't exist not because "it wouldn't be cool", but because it'd be pretty dumb.	[04:30]
ben_vulpes	i'm thinking about floaty things that map out battlefields when floating unpricked around the battlefield.	[04:30]
ben_vulpes	not jets, etc.	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	let	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	's put it in an easier context.	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	what can be said about the kid who gets into a fight his first day in the new school ?	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	if you're fighting over terrain you do not know you've got a whole heap of problems, each much bigger than anything a buzzard flying by could solve.	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	this is scarce consolation to the poor schmucks sent to die in the trenches, of course, but we're here discussing the larger problem	[04:32]
ben_vulpes	perhaps i misspeak when i say "superiority" rather than pointing at the value in denying others ownership of a space.	[04:35]
ben_vulpes	"fly your jet through here, i dare you." type of approach.	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	yeah. this of course only works to "me too" monkeys.	[04:36]
ben_vulpes	hm?	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	note that the chinese very smartly did not do what the usians expected them to do in the 70s/80s (an exact rehash of the 60s/70s russian idiocy of trying to copy them and lose at it, Мы вас похороним! and all that,	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	instead of making 25 atomic carriers to the us' dozen, they just made small cheap rockets)	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	thus, they're not bankrupt, and will in fact bury the us.	[04:37]
ben_vulpes	if i can do nothing on my own, i can learn from those who do understand strategy.	[04:38]
mircea_popescu	there's a reason for the yawning geopoliticomilitary chasm centering around pekin, and that cause is that the top brass of the us centcom failed to guess cca 1980.	[04:39]
ben_vulpes	if i understand you correctly, i find myself surrounded by 'me too monkeys'.	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	you familiar with the "there's nothing worse for a good startup than a bad revenue source early on" quip ?	[04:39]
ben_vulpes	sure. relevance here, though?	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	the one thing that'll ruin a bright young mind is success among idiots.	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	elitism has its protective advantages, especially for teh youth.	[04:40]
ben_vulpes	:(	[04:40]
ben_vulpes	well hey i hang out here.	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	not that it's teh panacea or anything	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes lol im sure you'll be fine.	[04:40]
ben_vulpes	hopefully that bears some prophylaxis.	[04:40]
ben_vulpes	/s/bears/conveys	[04:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00029141 = 4.1963 BTC [-]	[04:43]
thestringpuller	^whoa	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	wouldja look att hat.	[04:43]
ben_vulpes	dude that is the most cryptic apparent nonsequiter.	[04:43]
ben_vulpes	i'm going to think about it for days, come up with some interpretation, regurgitate it in public to many guffaws	[04:43]
thestringpuller	after screaming at cal3d for 5 hours	[04:44]
thestringpuller	i had to drink myself into a stupor	[04:44]
ben_vulpes	is that a pre-ipo price for mpoe?	[04:44]
thestringpuller	no	[04:45]
thestringpuller	pre owners-share block price tho	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	nah, it ipo'd something like 2-6k	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	yeah that was what, 37 iirc ?	[04:45]
ben_vulpes	ah so btcalpha doesn't have complete history?	[04:45]
thestringpuller	something like that	[04:45]
thestringpuller	no	[04:45]
scoopbot	New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/evolution-shuts-up-shop-taking-user-funds-with-it/	[04:45]
thestringpuller	only kako has dat ;)	[04:45]
ben_vulpes	;;later tell mike_c dude just fork over the coin for a socket from kakobrekla	[04:45]
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mircea_popescu	what was "evolution" ?	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	sounds like an ubuntu torrent client	[04:46]
ben_vulpes	anyways, i'm off.	[04:47]
ben_vulpes	sweet dreams, butt-asses.	[04:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140000 @ 0.0002995 = 41.93 BTC [+] {3}	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	cazalla https://blockchain.info/address/1Ps2m56aEudGVKj7ch8mAje4x6bBzGVNgU << the 48k looks more like 1000ish actually there in the past week ?	[04:48]
assbot	Bitcoin Address 1Ps2m56aEudGVKj7ch8mAje4x6bBzGVNgU ... ( http://bit.ly/1BOQthH )	[04:48]
cazalla	mircea_popescu, who really knows, all rumour and innuendo at this point	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	myeah	[04:49]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: i have great idea for mpex listing. i pretend to own hash power, so i take investor money and pay new investors with it!	[04:50]
thestringpuller	this is what I got from old story	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	no !?	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	"The other model Hariezer lays out is that magic lies on a single recessive gene. He reasons squibs have one dominant, non-magical version, and one recessive magical version of the gene. So of kids born to squibs, 1/4 will be wizards. In this version, you either have magic or you don’t, so if wizards married the non-magical, wizards themselves could become more rare, but the power of wizards won’t be diluted. C	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	all this model 2."	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	motherfucker. i am so sick and tired of this cloying tiresome pedestrian understanding of genetics.	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	the single alele pair model is in the books because fucking peas exhibit it, and because it's easy to teach to biologists, who are people who are bad at basic arithmetics.	[04:53]
thestringpuller	what were those square things called again?	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	irl, most loci have MULTIPLE aleles.	[04:53]
thestringpuller	putin squares?	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	there's places with 30+ genes, of which multiple are dominant.	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	if the gene for being a total fucktard has genes A through P and a through w, where upcase ones are dominant, it may be the case that the AD kid is the geniusest of them all and the BG kid is the total fucking retardest of the lot, way behind ww or ft or whatever the fuck other recessive combo	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	the total possible combinations are	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	;;calc (16 + 23) ** 2	[04:56]
gribble	1521	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	that's 1.5k different types for just that one pair!	[04:56]
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mircea_popescu	and it is unlikely but technically possible that you actually require a TRISOMY to get the topmost performance.	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	which may put it in the billions to one odds of happening, which means that we know enough about genetics since the genome has been sequenced to make judgements about on par with the quality of the pseudoscience that gave us "global warming" and "carbon"	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	(trisomy is usually a copy of one or the other gene, but it doesn't actually have to be - it could be a mix of them, which ~could~ be a legitimate new gene, if mindbogglingly improbable)	[04:59]
mircea_popescu	(conversely, it's usually the case that you do require a trisomy or other polysomy to get the actual worst performance available - kids with such genetic defects are almost universally retarded and sterile)	[05:01]
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chetty	well epigenetics is starting to be explored, but its so politically incorrect no one will talk much about it	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	yet idiots talking about nonsense abound	[05:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42900 @ 0.00029392 = 12.6092 BTC [+]	[05:45]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform why doesn't it really work again ?	[14:04]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform why doesn't it really work again ?	[14:05]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller nice one.	[14:09]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: if asking about the 'second kbd controller as jammer' - the small physical differences (esp. in the quartz oscillator) add up to a distinguishable 'fingerprint' which lets enemy pull a particular kbd signal out of a room full of'em	[14:09]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: if about hypothetical purpose-built jammer - keyboard scan matrix in particular is a moving target, as the frequency of the telltale signal will vary considerably depending on which key(s) are pressed	[14:10]
mircea_popescu	i was simply thinking a 2nd kbd with a rng tied to it closing circuits.	[14:11]
asciilifeform	aha	[14:11]
asciilifeform	that was my thought	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	but re-reading, you actually mean the mechanical keyboard pressing is the source	[14:11]
asciilifeform	the closing of the matrix circuits	[14:12]
asciilifeform	so yes	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	well...maybe ?	[14:12]
chetty	so wrap you kbd in a faraday cage?	[14:13]
asciilifeform	(and it is also interesting to think about what actually happens on the mechanical contacts. 'key bounce' is not only an annoyance for engineers, but a gift to radiodiddlers, as each spring - and rubber domes not excepted - has characteristic wear)	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	who knew that ipad style on-screen kbds will actually have at least one advantage ?	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	unwieldy as theyare.	[14:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00028979 = 1.7387 BTC [+]	[14:13]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: those can be 'heard' for considerable distances by intercepting lcd feed	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	yes, but "shield the screen" vs "shield the screen and shield the keyboard"	[14:14]
asciilifeform	i looked into keyboards made of optical fibres, and found none in commercial circulation. looked if anyone has admitted to experimenting with such, and found no credible data - but, interestingly, folks have built mice on this principle, for use inside mri scanners.	[14:15]
asciilifeform	(mice are easy - just pipe picture from the business end of standard optical mouse, hollowed out, into a remote cabinet to which its guts have been moved)	[14:16]
asciilifeform	shielding even a screen is nontrivial.	[14:17]
asciilifeform	http://www.cs.gmu.edu/~zduric/cs803/Simmons.pdf << unrelated but interesting from historical standpoint re: usg and practical use of rsa	[14:25]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Ew3JsA )	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i was thinking btw, faraday cage is essentially a passive radiator element. what if made active ?	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	make a sort of cyclotron in your living room, all electrons end up on the plate.	[14:36]
chetty	ouch, worse than having a fan run while you sleep	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform let's forget optical fibres for a second and consider this : on a standard keyboard, making a spoke portrude from each key so that from a width-long perspective each spoke is separated by any other is trivial mechanically. lighting one width and sticking a camera on the other width then resolves the problem,	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	you now have optical keypress	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	chetty i guess so does all your dust plus the cats, huh	[14:39]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: faraday cage is not (if correctly constructed) a radiating element at all	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	hence passive. it is still a radiator in my theoretical view of things, because it COULD	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	anyway, make mesh of two wires, so that on each hole you have at least one spot of wire at - potential and one spot at + potential. then the size of the hole and the intensity of the emission tell you how much potential you need in the cage.	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	for an arbitrary % of electron escape	[14:49]
asciilifeform	photon	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	particle.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	dangit	[14:49]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: spoke portrude from each key << manual typewriter. invitation for acoustic snoopery. (and camera - radiates.)	[14:54]
chetty	dont forget the tin hat	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform the spoke doesn't touch anything	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	just goes down a quarter inch or w/e,. into the air.	[14:56]
asciilifeform	the 'tin hat' was always especially funny to folks who actually know a little physics, because parabolic antenna focused on brain.	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	well amygdalla, but yeah	[14:56]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: into air, sure. and it vibrates. and no two spykes same length	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	oh.come.on.	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	is this your ploy to make me invent thought typing for you ?	[14:57]
asciilifeform	l0l	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	:)	[14:57]
asciilifeform	gedankenexperiment to wake folks up that keyboard for secure work ought to be 1) yes, mechanical 2) physically smallest that one can abide	[14:58]
chetty	well you can start with something like dragon speak and improves it :)	[14:58]
asciilifeform	ugh speaking	[14:58]
asciilifeform	fuck speaking	[14:58]
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asciilifeform	and yes, ultimate kbd ought to be something you can use with your hands in a sack (of conductive cloth naturally.)	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	!up GlobalSolutions	[15:00]
-assbot-	You voiced GlobalSolutions for 30 minutes.	[15:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85700 @ 0.0002898 = 24.8359 BTC [+] {2}	[15:00]
GlobalSolutions	Its ok, I can type	[15:00]
GlobalSolutions	Just here to learn...	[15:00]
mircea_popescu	!down GlobalSolutions	[15:00]
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mircea_popescu	kay.	[15:00]
*	asciilifeform picking self up from floor after http://www.umdrightnow.umd.edu/news/important-statement-president-wallace-loh	[15:02]
assbot	An Important Statement from President Wallace Loh \| UMD Right Now :: University of Maryland ... ( http://bit.ly/1xynMSm )	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	"the Office of Civil Rights and Sexual Misconduct"	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	wait. what ?!	[15:03]
asciilifeform	part ii: http://www.president.umd.edu/statements/campus_message031715.cfm	[15:03]
assbot	Office of the President, University of Maryland ... ( http://bit.ly/1xyo9Mx )	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	"The University of Maryland remains committed to our core values of respect for human dignity, diversity, and inclusiveness."	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	the university of maryland is a fraud. those can't be the core values of an university.	[15:04]
chetty	got to love that freedom of speech right	[15:04]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: american universities got cancer long ago ('60s) but now there is scarcely one detectable cell from the original patient at all, only tumour.	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[15:05]
asciilifeform	there was perhaps a few shredded flaps of still-chromosomally-passable tissue when i was a student there, a decade ago.	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	such nonsense tho. "our police department remains comitted to our core values of donuts and shooting the nigger"	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	"hey, that's exactly what should NOT be a value of yours, core or no core"	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	an university is by definition dedicated to exclusiveness.	[15:07]
mircea_popescu	it exists so as to exclude the scum so people who can think can do so, and young people who could one day think can come there to be away from their idiot families, small towns and government.	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	and as a side note, that's how probation came to be : originally clerics (ie, university students y compris) could claim eclesiastic jurisdiction before they lay court, and be taken before their rector to be judged there.	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	it was quickly limited to a "first offense only" thing	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	and it survived to this day	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	it is incidentally the model upon which i see the most serene republic coming to an agreement with the obsolete "states" : bitcoiners are outside of lay jurisdiction, and to be judged by bitcoin court.	[15:10]
asciilifeform	the latest lulz from umd almost beats the noose incident.	[15:11]
asciilifeform	(5 or so yrs ago, there was 'mass indignation', hastily-cooked mea culpas from virtually all organizations in any way connected with the campus, demonstrations 'of support' for 'the victims' - after a shred of rope was allegedly found hanging on a tree branch.)	[15:12]
asciilifeform	http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3580350	[15:13]
assbot	Campus Noose Sparks Hate Crime Probe - ABC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xypSBI )	[15:13]
asciilifeform	iirc it ended with something like a confession from whoever saw it that 'noose' was no noose at all, but a piece of garbage the wind carried	[15:14]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:14]
asciilifeform	and the idiot parade quietly vanished	[15:14]
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mircea_popescu	without anyone ever saying they were wrong, or stupid.	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	because they can't be wrong, or stupid, because they're smart and special.	[15:18]
asciilifeform	no prizes for guessing this.	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	perfect reason to actually hang them.	[15:18]
asciilifeform	!s sistine chapel ceiling	[15:18]
assbot	1 results for 'sistine chapel ceiling' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sistine+chapel+ceiling	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	heh	[15:18]
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asciilifeform	or more pertinent example, the fabricated mega-gang-rapes of recent history	[15:19]
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asciilifeform	'sympathy', 'support', esp. of the usg-sponsored very tangible/financial variety is on tap, no questions asked. imagine if insurance worked this way - how many houses would still remain standing ?	[15:20]
asciilifeform	the mechanism in question actually -needs- exercise once in a while, or rusts. hence the increasingly lulzy faux mega-outrages and their regularity	[15:22]
asciilifeform	(thoughtcrimey email, from one drunken student to another, 15 months ago !?!)	[15:23]
asciilifeform	'On Tuesday, March 10, 2015, the University of Maryland became aware of an email dated January 2014, 15 months ago. The vulgar language in the email expresses views that are reprehensible to our campus community. We immediately met with the individual involved and a University investigation is currently underway, led by the Office of Civil Rights and Sexual Misconduct. We are in contact with the University chapter of Kappa Sig	[15:23]
asciilifeform	ma and they have taken swift and decisive action in this matter. At their request, the University has committed to provide educational training on diversity and respect for the entire fraternity. The University of Maryland remains committed to our core values of respect for human dignity, diversity, and inclusiveness. We are deeply saddened by the impact this email is having on our community.'	[15:23]
asciilifeform	^ copied here for the record	[15:24]
asciilifeform	because the morons think they can magic their own spew away when it turns embarrassing.	[15:24]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: nice what? article? lol	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	yes.,	[15:32]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103150 @ 0.00029145 = 30.0631 BTC [+] {2}	[15:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.0002891 = 7.4299 BTC [-]	[15:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124679 @ 0.00028653 = 35.7243 BTC [-]	[15:55]
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mats	it falls	[15:57]
danielpbarron	!up coinking	[16:01]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111246 @ 0.00028653 = 31.8753 BTC [-]	[16:03]
coinking	Hey guys, any BitBet mods around?	[16:03]
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mats	http://www.catb.org/esr/structure-packing	[16:03]
assbot	The Lost Art of C Structure Packing ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBuXjr )	[16:04]
asciilifeform	mats: lost!?! l0l!	[16:04]
mats	esr sez so	[16:04]
asciilifeform	mats: incidentally, precise packings are not achievable without gcc pragma (or your compiler's equivalent)	[16:04]
asciilifeform	on of the 1,001 ways in which 'c' specification is a sad joke.	[16:05]
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asciilifeform	and it is entirely non-negotiable if you're dealing with a hardware register where the bits have to fall -just so-	[16:05]
asciilifeform	or even if you're writing something as mundane as a disassembler.	[16:06]
asciilifeform	(you can achieve the desired layout with bitshifts and logic ops, and end up introducing hidden platform dependencies - endian and wordsize)	[16:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134700 @ 0.00029236 = 39.3809 BTC [+]	[16:09]
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danielpbarron	http://gfy.com/20417496-post6.html	[16:16]
assbot	GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum - View Single Post - For Sale Virtual Credit Cards (VCC) - Many Denominations - Instant Delivery - US & INTL Billing AVS ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBxvOr )	[16:16]
danielpbarron	re: the GlobalSolutions guy ^	[16:16]
mike_c	coinking: better to just ask your question.	[16:17]
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coinking	ok cool, sure. I wanted to inquire about Content Management for BitBet - and if there was a want for Social Media Marketing & Management	[16:18]
kakobrekla	you want to promote bitbet?	[16:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34729 @ 0.00028653 = 9.9509 BTC [-]	[16:21]
coinking	yeah, looking to offer my services to the twitter page	[16:22]
coinking	or any other social sites	[16:23]
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nubbins`	bitbet has a twitter page?	[16:23]
coinking	I found one that was pretty inactive	[16:24]
danielpbarron	what are you talking about inactive?	[16:24]
danielpbarron	the thing tweets daily if not hourly	[16:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81609 @ 0.00029236 = 23.8592 BTC [+]	[16:24]
coinking	oh maybe I was looking at a different one	[16:24]
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danielpbarron	there are two; one tweets new bets and the other tweets individual bids on them	[16:25]
nubbins`	oh look	[16:25]
nubbins`	@BitBets and @BitBetsBets	[16:26]
coinking	there's always room for improvements :)	[16:26]
mike_c	coinking: they have an affiliate program if you want to do promotion.	[16:26]
coinking	cool, I'll check it out	[16:26]
mike_c	https://bitbet.us/faq/#43	[16:27]
assbot	FAQ BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBzLVV )	[16:27]
kakobrekla	well here is the thing, i am not paying a flat fee to someone to derp around on btc-poor social sites to gather 'likes', 'digs', 'twits' and 'impressions' which do not bring in bettors. but if you actually can bring in people with btc, use affiliate program to collect your reward.	[16:27]
coinking	I have a lot of good contact within crypto and have current and past clients as references. It's about perspective, the leads I bring as crypto enthusiasts yet building your social pages is never a bad move. It just depends on how much you think it's worth. It think long term it is something important in a business and has a direct impact on the bu	[16:31]
coinking	siness as a whole	[16:31]
kakobrekla	;;gettrust coinking	[16:32]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user coinking: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=coinking \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=coinking \| Rated since: never	[16:32]
kakobrekla	aha.	[16:32]
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asciilifeform	obligatory ^ http://oglaf.com/delusionist	[16:33]
assbot	Delusionist ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBB3jX )	[16:33]
mats	fun fact: zeroing a file in windows may actually leave the contents on the disk intact.	[16:34]
asciilifeform	zeroing a file anywhere you don't have direct access to the blocks may leave the contents on the disk	[16:36]
asciilifeform	and btw this includes all modern hdd.	[16:36]
mats	fun fact: the UIPI clipboard format whitelist is permissive enough to allow for exploitation of particular programs on 7 and 8.	[16:37]
kakobrekla	!up coinking	[16:38]
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mats	additionally, MS has indicated several times that 'UAC' is not actually a security boundary	[16:38]
kakobrekla	anyway, get in the wot why dont you	[16:38]
asciilifeform	mats: on top of that is the mega-lol where winblows uac is the only usg-blessed 'security boundary' mechanism...	[16:38]
coinking	wot?	[16:38]
danielpbarron	!h	[16:39]
assbot	http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot	[16:39]
mats	so you can e.g. abuse auto-elevation behavior in COM (win7, 8) and use a save file dialog in paint as an elevated iexplore	[16:39]
asciilifeform	aha	[16:40]
mats	MS knows, says: feature	[16:40]
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asciilifeform	pheature!	[16:40]
coinking	how do I enter?	[16:41]
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danielpbarron	coinking, do you know how to GPG?	[16:42]
coinking	no I don't	[16:43]
mats	another fun fact: you can physically damage XP installations via ACPI parsing and NtSystemDebugControl, entirely in usermode	[16:43]
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danielpbarron	coinking, http://www.contravex.com/2014/09/23/please-to-pgp-guide-for-linux-os-x-windows/	[16:44]
assbot	Please To PGP (Guide for Linux, OS X, Windows) \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBDe71 )	[16:44]
coinking	we can't just have a private convo on here?	[16:45]
danielpbarron	GPG is for proving who you are between sessions	[16:45]
coinking	ah ok	[16:46]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: yes., << well ty.	[16:49]
coinking	so is it only for mac?	[16:50]
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danielpbarron	no	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	because the morons think they can magic their own spew away when it turns embarrassing. << b-a logs will become the most interesting resource in not many years.	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	coinking social what ?	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	!up coinking	[17:00]
-assbot-	You voiced coinking for another 30 minutes.	[17:00]
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nubbins`	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-03-2015#1054130	[17:01]
assbot	Logged on 16-03-2015 17:06:07; nubbins`: log would make a worthy tome, if one were able to sieve it first	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	quite.	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	well... get some teeny girlies on it.	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	that's the traditional socioeconomic use for fillies in human societies.	[17:02]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28550 @ 0.00029513 = 8.426 BTC [+] {2}	[17:09]
scoopbot	New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-genetics-of-intelligence/	[17:10]
coinking	Social media management, that's what I was inquiring about	[17:11]
coinking	I'm not sure who is directly involved in this project so I'll just me sending an email	[17:12]
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kakobrekla	if you are going to write to @bitbet.us , i will be reading it	[17:24]
coinking	cool, should be there. It's trickier to chat about it through IRC so you will see from my email my personal details.	[17:28]
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chetty	Social media management//omg has it really come to that?	[17:31]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1Y8PNX2.txt << mega-interesting	[17:41]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DBcTXg )	[17:41]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the scope traces show a working rng, even.	[17:41]
asciilifeform	i did notice weird side terminals on the caps, thought it was a manufacturing artifact.	[17:42]
asciilifeform	plainly visible in http://www.loper-os.org/pub/fuckkuppy.jpg	[17:43]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DBd7O2 )	[17:43]
asciilifeform	(see upper left hand corner of photo, for instance)	[17:43]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker	[17:43]
gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 265.44, Best ask: 265.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 265.64, 24 hour volume: 64508.08782313, 24 hour low: 263.01, 24 hour high: 288.3, 24 hour vwap: None	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	!up vorandrew	[17:48]
-assbot-	You voiced vorandrew for 30 minutes.	[17:48]
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mike_c	so normal fuckup then, not even massively incompetent.	[17:50]
mike_c	it's nice that they figured it out.	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform aha! i wonder what the bug would have been	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	oh it's explained.	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	they have that massive an infrastructure that they cache the application !?	[17:52]
vorandrew	Does anybody know who is trading BTC difficulty CFD/Futures?	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	!gettrust vorandrew	[17:53]
assbot	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user vorandrew: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. \| http://w.b-a.link/trust/mircea_popescu/vorandrew \| http://w.b-a.link/user/vorandrew	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	nobody trades anything with people without a wot.	[17:53]
vorandrew	working on it	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	but otherwise, most public-facing diff futures seems to happen on bitbet.	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	https://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/ sort of thing	[17:55]
assbot	BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014 :: 1750.25 B (93%) on Yes, 136.67 B (7%) on No \| closed 1 year 1 month ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1GYTsoX )	[17:55]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform is this factually true, that you had the wrong part in there for a while, then switched it out to the right part and ordered immediately ?	[18:12]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i switched through a number of offered substitute parts, one of which may well have been this inductor-capacitor combo (erroneously offered as circuit-equivalent)	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	aha	[18:13]
BingoBoingo	So, once you finalize a thing in their webapp you gotta sit on the page for a couple hours just to make sure the cache is sync'd or...	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	well hopefully they fixed it.	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	so let me ask you this composite question :	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	if the world was working as it did before computers, ascii would have been one of the few people with pen and paper, and wrote a description to one of the few people who made what he needed, and by virtue of that fewness they'd have actually been friends. the letter took a week to get there, the work took a week to be done, and so a month later alf has his peas or w/e he's needing for alchemy.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	as the work works now, software makes everything much easier and faster. errors especially.	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	as a result... a month later alf does not have his peas.	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	please to progress on the dotted line.	[18:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122200 @ 0.00029346 = 35.8608 BTC [-]	[18:17]
asciilifeform	pr0gre55!1111!11	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	"it takes us a second to do things that took a lifetime before - and they come with the guarantee of being something else entirely!"	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	it's easy, and fun.	[18:19]
asciilifeform	but if playing that gedanken-game fairly, possibly the 'progress' is in my being able to get things at all without serious moneys	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	depends how marginal you are.	[18:19]
*	asciilifeform is pretty marginal	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	if you're in the 1% that did then as it does now, the fact that there's a further aspirational 19% added to the pot does not help you	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	hopefully does also not hinder you, although...	[18:19]
asciilifeform	probably hanging from somewhere in that 19th, like that schmuck swinging from the last chopper out of saigon	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	how would we find this out ?	[18:20]
asciilifeform	idk just pulled from arse	[18:20]
asciilifeform	subjective perception.	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	no, i know. the problem with gedanken experiments is that they necessarily won't fit the reality	[18:21]
asciilifeform	based on rough eyeball of the kind of things can and cannot afford	[18:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00029171 = 10.1515 BTC [-] {2}	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	sort-of like the stair of no return, once you left you can't walk back	[18:21]
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asciilifeform	see, if i were the kind of fella who has money, would not have been having any of the problem described in this tale. would have either seen the boards made within a week (actual business relationship with factory, sleep ad libitum and fly in to supervise in person with own eyes) or would have a legit conveyor with requisite machinery in-house, and same	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	it's not a simple matter of money, as money's not invariant over the cases we discuss.	[18:25]
asciilifeform	'money' in the allocator sense (see old mircea_popescu thread about subsistence vs capital-allocator)	[18:25]
asciilifeform	or the 'percent of pie' sense discussed in possibly same thread	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	but you don't need that. you merely need to be deemed by a major capital allocator worthy of the allocation.	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	the us congress does not particularly think loyd austin of the army is very smart,	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	nor are the billions being spent his own personal pocket money he could buy icecream with otherwise.	[18:27]
asciilifeform	well yes. that is normally how it works.	[18:28]
mircea_popescu	also throws a monkey wrench in our guesswork.	[18:29]
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mircea_popescu	where's that oglaf	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	http://oglaf.com/labyrinth/	[18:29]
assbot	Labyrinth ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvUcIS )	[18:29]
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asciilifeform	this is why i always say that victory is far, that 'we' are small and 'they' are - stupid, yes - but gigantic. the entire s.nsa ipo would not have bought a proper pick'n'placer, not even talking about real estate to house it in a place which i could economically get to, etc.	[18:30]
asciilifeform	and this was at 'peak btc-usd' to date	[18:30]
asciilifeform	deliberately using the goxbubble numbers	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	well yes.	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	so we are small and they are tinier still and the world's immense.	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	which... yeah.	[18:31]
asciilifeform	'they', for instance, don't have to split attention between N day jobs	[18:32]
asciilifeform	or ask around, futile, whether a hosting co. or manufacturing house somewhere might agree to take a little btc business	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	right. they just win wars in afghanistan.	[18:33]
asciilifeform	l0l	[18:33]
chetty	well if it was easy everybody would do it ;)	[18:33]
asciilifeform	'they' make $maxint by sending cartloads of meat to get liquified in afghan, and the like	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	i know a little girl who is a princess.	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	bout the same thing.	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	she makes $maxint diamonds by flying unicorns around.	[18:34]
mike_c	this still seems promising to me. so new little shop had a bug in their order form. doesn't make them useless.	[18:35]
asciilifeform	mike_c: didn't say 'useless'	[18:35]
asciilifeform	mike_c: if the thing shows up on fri., and works to spec, then useful, sure	[18:35]
asciilifeform	mike_c: but i'm still empty-handed for C-III	[18:35]
mike_c	yeah. debugging is nice, delivering is better.	[18:35]
mike_c	not empty-handed if they deliver though, right?	[18:36]
asciilifeform	mike_c: did you actually think the rng was the cargo? rng was exhibited at C-II	[18:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72600 @ 0.00029562 = 21.462 BTC [+] {2}	[18:36]
mike_c	i didn't actually think I knew all the details. so schedule for getting it by c3 is blown?	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform so tell them that you want them to rush the 2nd joib as much as humanly possible and fly it over.	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	and don't wait for the boards to show up to put the 2nd job order in, either.	[18:37]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i was thinking of doing this.	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	yeah. not enough $ at risk to be that cautious.	[18:38]
asciilifeform	mike_c: understand, i cannot blame this particular vendor for the overall pace of the work - only self. (in particular, i am not clever enough to escape from having a fairly intense day job)	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	yeah, you are a very very bad man.	[18:39]
asciilifeform	mike_c: the tale with the board house was simply a case of 'wunderwaffen' that did not fire to spec	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN29X2HCKpU	[18:39]
assbot	Bad Man Montage - Babu from Seinfeld - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/18IZajs )	[18:39]
mike_c	i'm not interested in blaming anyone. but if these guys can speed up the schedule, let's keep them working.	[18:40]
mike_c	all the better if they feel they fked up and need to do better on next round.	[18:40]
asciilifeform	mike_c: aha	[18:40]
asciilifeform	mike_c: the other half of that thread was that i had serious doubts re: whether the service offered by mf inc. was actually economically possible as described, and ergo i might be a chump	[18:41]
mike_c	yeah. seems like it might be legit so far.	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform corporate moneyz, what do you care.	[18:42]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: cared because 'if you don't know precisely who at the table is the chump...'	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	hehe.	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	anyway, srsly, it's a reaosnable attempt, go for it.	[18:44]
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ben_vulpes	why is it crashing	[18:56]
ben_vulpes	ooh here's a fancy	[18:56]
ben_vulpes	http://www.blackrockblog.com/blackrock-sovereign-risk-indicator/ << via holtzy	[18:57]
assbot	BlackRock Sovereign Risk Indicator \| BlackRock Blog \| Global Market Intelligence ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvZ2FU )	[18:57]
ben_vulpes	( http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2015/03/sovereign-risk-indicator/ , for posterity)	[18:57]
assbot	Sovereign Risk Indicator \| The Big Picture ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvZ94m )	[18:57]
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ben_vulpes	dude argentina has a negative willingness to pay?	[19:04]
ben_vulpes	what bullshit is this.	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	it does.	[19:06]
ben_vulpes	clearly i don't understand the term of art.	[19:08]
ben_vulpes	i was thinking of the money sitting in NY, intended for bondholders.	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2015#1056654 << that's the correct name, how did you know ? got the same ?	[19:09]
assbot	Logged on 18-03-2015 13:57:11; nubbins`: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Alare Kool is from Bangladesh!	[19:09]
mats	http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/18/investing/federal-reserve-rate-announcement/index.html	[19:09]
assbot	Fed removes 'patient': Prepare for an interest rate hike - Mar. 18, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lw1exg )	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	check it out, fed's reading the logs.	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes saying they're behaving like a forumite scammer is being generous.	[19:10]
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mats	i thought the same thing	[19:10]
ben_vulpes	we're both retarded, mats.	[19:10]
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ben_vulpes	i must not be reading anything closely enough today.	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	"Thew, of Radcliffe, Greater Manchester, admitted a Section 4A Public Order Offence (displaying writing or other visible representation with intention of causing harassment, alarm or distress) and was sentenced at Minshull Street Crown Court today."	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	check out the uk lmao.	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	!up lsaul	[19:11]
-assbot-	You voiced lsaul for 30 minutes.	[19:11]
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mircea_popescu	"hurting people's feelings", a "section 4a public order offence"	[19:11]
ben_vulpes	last few lines of that article suggest there was a parole violation involved.	[19:12]
mats	ben_vulpes: i was responding to mircea_popescu there	[19:13]
ben_vulpes	i'm the idiot today	[19:13]
ben_vulpes	!down ben_vulpes	[19:13]
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mircea_popescu	'To mock or joke about the tragic events of that morning is morally reprehensible and Thew has rightly been convicted and sentenced for his actions.	[19:13]
mircea_popescu	da fuck.	[19:13]
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mircea_popescu	speech can not be morally reprehensible for crying out loud.	[19:13]
mircea_popescu	morals apply to actions.	[19:13]
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BingoBoingo	https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/03/18/university-went-bankrupt-amid-tighter-federal-scrutiny-looks-collect-money-former << Edu lol	[19:19]
assbot	University that went bankrupt amid tighter federal scrutiny looks to collect money from former students @insidehighered ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lw2Wi7 )	[19:19]
mircea_popescu	http://wtfevolution.tumblr.com/post/100079923190/i-think-im-kind-of-over-heads-youre-over << great lol	[19:21]
assbot	WTF, Evolution?! • "I think I’m kind of over heads."	[19:21]
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mircea_popescu	"The closure of a college often leaves students in limbo. Without being able to finish a degree, students must scramble to transfer and to figure out how to deal with the debt they have racked up."	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	wait, someone actually pays a college that doesn't complete the program ?	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	what's next, someone brings you half a hambuger and you pay half the price forone ?	[19:23]
BingoBoingo	Seriously	[19:23]
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BingoBoingo	College closed, but perviously had been faking Federal loans, nao wants the money back even though its closed.	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	"Mid-Continent, which first opened in 1949 but received federal student aid only for the past decade or so, caught the attention of regulators at the Education Department in 2011, according to documents obtained by Inside Higher Ed."	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	talk about embrace and extinguish.	[19:25]
asciilifeform	they, of course, would say 'we busted a sc4mz0r'	[19:25]
ben_vulpes	fwiw, the class is the unit of purchase at us scamversity	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	“It’s not to say that we didn’t have the right information but the problem was being able to produce it quickly and produce it” in the format that the department wanted, Walker said.	[19:26]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: where i went it was the 'credit-hour'	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	i guess they didn;t teach perl.	[19:26]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo check it out btw, no fudstorm ensued.	[19:28]
BingoBoingo	Seriously am surprised	[19:28]
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mircea_popescu	some signatures better than others.	[19:31]
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mircea_popescu	in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo3gaaNsQJ1qh70jeo1_1280.jpg	[19:38]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Esf4Yd )	[19:38]
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cazalla	http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/mar/18/ashley-judd-to-press-charges-twitter-sexual-harassment	[19:44]
assbot	Ashley Judd to press charges against Twitter users over sexual harassment \| Film \| The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Esg0vN )	[19:44]
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danielpbarron	she doesn't want them to say the things, so she encourages them by retweeting it!?	[19:51]
danielpbarron	she either doesn't know how twitter works, or knows exactly how twitter works	[19:53]
davout	lol	[19:58]
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mircea_popescu	who's ashley judd	[20:05]
fluffypony	who isn't ashley judd!	[20:05]
fluffypony	I think we're all ashley judd in our own special way	[20:05]
fluffypony	what can I say, I'm a juddist	[20:05]
fluffypony	juddist priest	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	lol o wait, singer-songwriter/actress/newswoman/political activist. i see.	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony well, can you be specific ?	[20:06]
fluffypony	I have no idea who she is	[20:07]
fluffypony	I was just rambling	[20:07]
fluffypony	clearly I'm practicing for the upcoming conference circuit :-P	[20:07]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[20:09]
cazalla	mircea_popescu, some bitch in her 40s who pretends she is being sexual harassed on twitter	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	myeah, about as credible as her pretense to fame, talent et all.	[20:12]
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danielpbarron	http://epicsol.org/~misha/deraadt/55	[20:38]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/19AJY9l )	[20:38]
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danielpbarron	for those also reading this email dump, 53 is where Hannum finally addresses Theo	[20:41]
danielpbarron	54/55 is Theo's response which is quite funny	[20:42]
danielpbarron	"Charles, i feel your answer to be a rather virtiolic flame."	[20:42]
danielpbarron	"i'm somewhat unhappy to hear you say what you are saying, or the tone	[20:43]
danielpbarron	you use. you are not being nice. i do not understand what you expect	[20:43]
danielpbarron	to gain from saying things as you have."	[20:43]
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danielpbarron	and yeah, Hannum was clearly the aggressor; Demetriou comes off as trying to make reconciliations	[20:46]
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danielpbarron	!up vorandrew are your quit/rejoins an attempt to get voice? there are better ways...	[20:50]
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vorandrew	:) sorry - debugging some start scripts... will find other server	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron well i certainly didn't go in as far as that	[20:53]
BingoBoingo	danielpbarron well i certainly didn't go in as far as that << This is why we read. You've got more important stuff to read most of the time.	[20:55]
[]bot	Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" http://bitbet.us/bet/1120/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 107.9135122 BTC. Current weight: 48,983.	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	heh, believing that is how i end up dumb.	[20:55]
BingoBoingo	lol	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	btw re the entire satoshi thing : anyone ever considered it's maybe a homage to Satoshi Kanazawa ?	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	one of the lulziest miciurins of all time	[20:56]
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mircea_popescu	!up danyalos	[21:01]
-assbot-	You voiced danyalos for 30 minutes.	[21:01]
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danyalos	Thanks Mircea	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	sure. who're you ?	[21:02]
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danyalos	I am here because a close friend of mine told me that I should read #Bitcoin-assets often to learn a couple of things.	[21:05]
danyalos	So here I am.	[21:05]
BingoBoingo	Cool	[21:08]
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danielpbarron	brenda's friend	[21:10]
danyalos	Do I know you, danielpbarron?	[21:14]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $35 before June " http://bitbet.us/bet/1129/ Odds: 48(Y):52(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.54145355 BTC. Current weight: 94,718.	[21:15]
danielpbarron	danyalos, not yet	[21:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00029735 = 4.3116 BTC [+]	[21:17]
BingoBoingo	danyalos: Gossip(tm) travels fast	[21:18]
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danyalos	I thought spammers would not be allowded here.	[21:20]
BingoBoingo	Depends on one's definition of spam	[21:23]
BingoBoingo	http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/	[21:24]
assbot	Spamming reddit, an "experiment". pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BXezs6 )	[21:24]
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trinque	!up danyalos	[21:34]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" http://bitbet.us/bet/1122/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 22.93804235 BTC. Current weight: 45,539.	[21:44]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128400 @ 0.00029593 = 37.9974 BTC [-] {3}	[21:49]
asciilifeform	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20 << historic lulz	[21:52]
assbot	WW2 justified by former German soldiers - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1BXnE3Z )	[21:52]
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TheNewDeal	;;Market -all	[22:02]
gribble	Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "-all" in it. Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin.	[22:02]
TheNewDeal	;;marker	[22:02]
gribble	Error: "marker" is not a valid command.	[22:02]
TheNewDeal	;;Market	[22:02]
gribble	Error: "Market" is not a valid command.	[22:02]
TheNewDeal	;;quit	[22:02]
gribble	Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.	[22:02]
*	assbot removes voice from danyalos	[22:04]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[22:04]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 252.29, vol: 21409.77003160 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 248.214, vol: 23659.70593 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 252.6, vol: 92831.71285624 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 263.19, vol: 58.0251376 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 251.665018, vol: 189755.23020000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 257.47999, vol: 37.66223963 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 264.65119109, vol: 282.21659006 \| Volume-weighted last (1 more message)	[22:04]
brendafdez	!up danyalos	[22:04]
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TheNewDeal	:)	[22:04]
TheNewDeal	I was wondering how long it would take the No side to take https://bitbet.us/bet/1129/light-sweet-crude-oil-wti-to-drop-under/#b8	[22:06]
assbot	BitBet - Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $35 before June :: 1.23 B (48%) on Yes, 1.32 B (52%) on No \| closing in 1 month 4 weeks \| weight: 94`666 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1BXr4E7 )	[22:06]
brendafdez	I'm missing out on bitbet, never cared much about it	[22:07]
BingoBoingo	brendafdez: It gets interesting, just takes time to internalize what is truly interesting about it.	[22:10]
brendafdez	I read the trilema posts, that's a start	[22:10]
BingoBoingo	BitBet is the greatest provider of insurance BTC has ever seen	[22:11]
BingoBoingo	http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/16/interlude-the-big-bets/	[22:11]
assbot	Interlude: Sport betting isn't that big, Here's what is \| Bingo Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZVeGq )	[22:11]
brendafdez	Insurance as in hedging?	[22:12]
*	brendafdez feels so ignorant.	[22:12]
TheNewDeal	Sure.	[22:16]
TheNewDeal	Hurricane insirance, theyve got it all	[22:16]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 72.33330426 BTC. Current weight: 89,368.	[22:17]
BingoBoingo	brendafdez: Insurance limited only by your imagination and wallet	[22:21]
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BingoBoingo	So the Vessenes Foundation is not as sophisticated at vote diddling as East StL http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/illinois/east-st-louis-mayor-files-as-write-in-candidate-for/article_e4966c68-f4ec-5964-8d75-cd8a226c3385.html	[22:28]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GZZBRS )	[22:28]
ben_vulpes	http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/patches.html << jurov, would it be feasible to get links to the relevant emails in which patches were transmitted on this page	[22:29]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GZZDZT )	[22:29]
ben_vulpes	as in: i'd like the sole entry under submitted by to link to the appropriate sig, as well as all of the entries under 'signed by' as well.	[22:29]
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ben_vulpes	(perhaps a link to the email list page for the email in which a given patch/signature was transmitted would be even better)	[22:31]
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mircea_popescu	!up beetcoin	[22:36]
-assbot-	You voiced beetcoin for 30 minutes.	[22:36]
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BingoBoingo	!up gabriel_laddel	[22:37]
*	assbot gives voice to gabriel_laddel	[22:37]
BingoBoingo	!up nubbins`	[22:37]
*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[22:37]
ben_vulpes	upstorm!	[22:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14798 @ 0.00029439 = 4.3564 BTC [-]	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i wasn't aware anyone thinks ww2 was avoidable ?	[22:37]
gabriel_laddel	Oh thanks.	[22:37]
nubbins`	ty	[22:37]
BingoBoingo	!up felipelalli	[22:37]
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mircea_popescu	poor old guy. basically... you're stuck with your own history. once you're old enough, all that's left is explaining it.	[22:41]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: linked to illustrate that ^ observation.	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	mhm	[22:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76350 @ 0.00029784 = 22.7401 BTC [+]	[22:45]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 25.0646 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" http://bitbet.us/bet/1120/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 132.9781122 BTC. Current weight: 48,841.	[22:50]
TheNewDeal	Wow	[22:51]
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decimation	"We are in contact with the University chapter of Kappa Sigma and they have taken swift and decisive action in this matter. At their request, the University has committed to provide educational training on diversity and respect for the entire fraternity." << asciilifeform: I could imagine this exact phrase being written in the soviet union	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz4ldoJGIh1qh70jeo1_1280.jpg << nice guys don't look at the boobage.	[22:53]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1H05NsZ )	[22:53]
decimation	"Komsomol will take swift action"	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	decimation the "at their request ... educaitonal training" is more concerning.	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	for one thing, they know it's nothing short of abuse, hence the "educational training" gauche	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	http://www.wired.com/2009/09/fmrisalmon/ btw	[22:58]
assbot	Scanning Dead Salmon in fMRI Machine Highlights Risk of Red Herrings \| WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1LwA9tE )	[22:58]
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decimation	asciilifeform: the macrofab guy actually did an impressive amount of follow-up	[23:02]
gabriel_laddel	nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=13-03-2015#1051932 < "..." meaning?	[23:02]
assbot	Logged on 13-03-2015 17:02:57; nubbins`: gabriel_laddel:Does anyone take issue with me describing the lordship as "the peerage" and #-assets as "earth's premiere commercial forum"? <<< ...	[23:02]
ben_vulpes	how is this thread still alive...	[23:02]
ben_vulpes	"earth's premiere clown car and pornography club" << howzat	[23:03]
gabriel_laddel	I'm (in an ad-hoc manner) catching up on logs.	[23:03]
ben_vulpes	oh.	[23:03]
ben_vulpes	well don't mind me.	[23:03]
decimation	so he basically subbed a dead short for your capacitor	[23:03]
[]bot	Bet placed: 10.16739699 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 82.50070126 BTC. Current weight: 89,332.	[23:05]
[]bot	Bet placed: 5.0356048 BTC for No on "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" http://bitbet.us/bet/1122/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.97364715 BTC. Current weight: 45,410.	[23:05]
brendafdez	;;buy 1000 USD 12.7 ARS "cash in bs as - price current as of 2015-03-18 updates daily - me@brendafernandez.com to place order"	[23:05]
gribble	Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book.	[23:05]
brendafdez	ops	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	actually clown car is probably the worst description. for one thing, b-a's not funny.	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	for the other, most of the usual clowns hate it.	[23:06]
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*	assbot removes voice from nubbins`	[23:08]
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brendafdez	;;ident brendafdez	[23:08]
gribble	Nick 'brendafdez', with hostmask 'brendafdez!~brendafde@unaffiliated/brendafdez', is identified as user 'brendafdez', with GPG key id CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, key fingerprint 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, and bitcoin address None	[23:08]
brendafdez	;;buy 1000 USD 12.7 ARS "cash in bs as - price current as of 2015-03-18 updates daily - me@brendafernandez.com to place order"	[23:08]
gribble	Order id 22093 created.	[23:08]
brendafdez	does it make sense?	[23:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113100 @ 0.00029784 = 33.6857 BTC [+]	[23:09]
danielpbarron	nope ,,(view 22093)	[23:09]
brendafdez	:(	[23:09]
danielpbarron	needs "at" between USD and 12.7	[23:09]
danielpbarron	;;view 22093	[23:10]
gribble	#22093 Wed Mar 18 22:04:08 2015 brendafdez BUY 1000.0 USD @ 12.7 ARS (cash in bs as - price current as of 2015-03-18 updates daily - me@brendafernandez.com to place order)	[23:10]
danielpbarron	never	[23:10]
danielpbarron	nevermind	[23:10]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold " http://bitbet.us/bet/976/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.68419713 BTC. Current weight: 14,495.	[23:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00029784 = 5.3462 BTC [+]	[23:27]
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ben_vulpes	bitcoin parity with various things is now a sexy bet.	[23:33]
ben_vulpes	;;ticker --market xau	[23:33]
gribble	Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'btce', 'butter', 'bfx', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'bitmynt', 'btsp'] or 'all'	[23:33]
ben_vulpes	;;ticker --currency xau	[23:34]
gribble	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.	[23:34]
ben_vulpes	;;ticker --market bitstamp --currency xau	[23:34]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCXAU ticker \| Best bid: 0.228321, Best ask: 0.229068, Bid-ask spread: 0.00075, Last trade: 0.228123, 24 hour volume: 22002.37678990, 24 hour low: 0.2241, 24 hour high: 0.2556, 24 hour vwap: 0.23923387779	[23:34]
TheNewDeal	Bitcoin market to reach parity of nyse on mar 1 2020.	[23:38]
decimation	;;ticker	[23:38]
gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 254.43, Best ask: 254.52, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 254.45, 24 hour volume: 101179.88568595, 24 hour low: 246.98, 24 hour high: 285.03, 24 hour vwap: None	[23:38]
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decimation	I wonder how much manipulation is going on before some of those ETFs hit the pink sheets	[23:39]
BingoBoingo	Quite a bit prolly	[23:40]
decimation	well, now is the time to buy	[23:46]
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ben_vulpes	i'll take a few	[23:50]
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ben_vulpes	or...i would.	[23:51]
asciilifeform	decimation: subbed a dead short for your capacitor << not a dead short, an inductor-capacitor chimera. perfectly legit item, just not what was specced.	[23:57]
asciilifeform	http://www.pbfcomics.com/271 << shiva hands!	[23:58]
assbot	The Perry Bible Fellowship ... ( http://bit.ly/1I0J4OJ )	[23:58]
*	asciilifeform waits for the inevitable 'that's not shiva' nitpick	[23:58]

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