Forum logs for 17 Aug 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform but in all seriousness, a leak history that favours tedious operational garbage and entirely omits the good stuff suggests 'hangout' [00:00]
diana_coman mircea_popescu how do I get my crafting prize and is there a time limit for that (to know how much time I have to figure out the basics of altcoin)? [00:00]
* asciilifeform regards hypothesis 'there is no good stuff' as unproven [00:01]
mircea_popescu diana_coman no time limit. you post an address. [00:01]
diana_coman mircea_popescu great, thanks [00:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the stuff that was leaked so far mostly follows the "brain percentage" criterion. [00:02]
mircea_popescu the stuff you want to know about, three people know. unless one of them is the source, it's not leaking. [00:02]
mod6 ;;rate diana_coman 1 Won Eulora Crafting Prize [00:03]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not necessarily. the inventor, of, say, 'joseki' is probably long dead - but a small army of monkeys (engineers, sw/hw production staff, auditors, etc) have access to 'the goods' - and they aren't leaking either. [00:04]
mircea_popescu small. [00:04]
BingoBoingo ;;tslb [00:04]
mircea_popescu it's purely statistical, like say a biopsy. [00:04]
gribble Time since last block: 50 minutes and 36 seconds [00:04]
mircea_popescu you'll find much less pituitary cells in a random biopsy than muscle tissue [00:04]
BingoBoingo ^ Oh no, not BTC too!!! [00:04]
diana_coman ;;rate mod6 1 graceful competitor for Eulora Crafting Prize [00:06]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mod6 has been recorded. [00:06]
diana_coman mod6 thank you! [00:06]
asciilifeform at the risk of sounding like anatoliy golitsyn (infamous fellow who insists, even today, that ussr faked its own death) - the available, afaik, evidence suggests either terrible - or incredibly good - cryptology [00:08]
mircea_popescu this is pretty cool. [00:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform let me put it some other way. wouldn't you expect that if mp is conversant in pgp, so would be obama ? [00:08]
mircea_popescu so that people couldn't like, you knoiw, steal his selfies from his plaintext gmail acct ? [00:09]
asciilifeform obama - no. private cocksucker - also no. shadowfuhrer? sure. [00:09]
mod6 diana_coman: np! good work :) [00:09]
mircea_popescu oh shadowfuhrer is it. [00:09]
mircea_popescu that's a contradiction in terms don't you know. [00:09]
* asciilifeform searches for a better term, involving puppets and strings [00:10]
mircea_popescu dr who ? [00:10]
asciilifeform let's say 'reptilian king' or the like. [00:10]
mircea_popescu so who was d. f. augustus' ? [00:11]
mircea_popescu the spirit of gaius ? [00:11]
asciilifeform lol [00:12]
mircea_popescu you're possibly the most mystically inclined engineer i know. [00:13]
mircea_popescu i foresee that when you;ll be old you'll write a great kids book. [00:14]
asciilifeform ahaha [00:14]
mircea_popescu for srs. [00:14]
asciilifeform nothing mystical about thinking like a proper armchair general and pondering the strength of the hidden column of enemy [00:14]
asciilifeform when the apparent column is so suggestive of 'ablative' cannon fodder tactic. [00:14]
mircea_popescu the notion that there exists an unseen reality behind the seen reality, whether right or wrong, is the very substance of mysticism. [00:16]
asciilifeform for proper mysticism, the hidden side must be deemed 'unknowable' [00:16]
asciilifeform here is is merely unknown. [00:16]
asciilifeform it will make itself known, presumably, if it advances to the front line and 'fires' - but wouldn't it be great to know -before- ? [00:17]
mircea_popescu no, that's hermetism. [00:17]
mircea_popescu mysticism is an erryday activity. [00:17]
mircea_popescu it somewhat shares the fate of "frustration" in the hands of popidiocy. but outside of what the reddit horde thinks, frustration is a major psychological process, the fundament of all volitive activity. [00:18]
asciilifeform mysticism: 'the gods shall strike us down' pragmatic armchair generalship: 'that fellow might have a pen gun up his arse' [00:18]
mircea_popescu the gods shall strike us down thing is mere eschatology. [00:18]
jurov is there a historical example of such a mastermind? [00:18]
mircea_popescu lives on a different plane. [00:18]
asciilifeform jurov: perhaps i implied that a literal 'lizard king' lives. this is not a necessary hypothesis for a cryptologically-strong usa [00:19]
asciilifeform 'lizard king' perhaps should be understood as 'set of remaining competent commanders' [00:19]
jurov that falls into mastermind definition too, you know [00:19]
asciilifeform i.e. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2014#772890 [00:20]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:20]
mircea_popescu the sadest fate in the world would be for such a set to exist, ina bunker somewhere. [00:20]
mircea_popescu imagine if you went to hibernate like a bear, and when you came through all your shit was broken and unresponsive. [00:20]
asciilifeform aye. sorta like the japanese version of 'manhattan project' [00:20]
asciilifeform (they, if i recall, were actually on the right track, unlike germany) [00:20]
jurov how would the graybearded dude be able even remotely comprehend all the intelligence? [00:21]
jurov even mircea with all his minions says it's unlikely [00:21]
asciilifeform jurov: the hypothetical master doesn't need to. he just sorta sits there quietly and bakes pills against rsa; creates diddled but internationally-appealing block ciphers; etc [00:22]
jurov but you imply he needs to pull strings in addition to that [00:23]
asciilifeform he sits and plays 'tetris' on his handmade optical cpu [00:23]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform a brain devoid of spinal chord can not work. [00:23]
mircea_popescu your "mastermind", provided he exists, is drunk and insane. [00:23]
asciilifeform the strings, in this hypothetical narrative, are pulled by another master - one of disinfo, whose purpose would then consist of shielding the former greybeard. [00:24]
jurov so now we know what stan's fapping to [00:24]
mircea_popescu lol [00:24]
asciilifeform lelz [00:24]
jurov handmade optical cpus [00:24]
BingoBoingo !b 6 [00:24]
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asciilifeform this is, admittedly, merely a plausible - if fantastic - hypothesis. but one admitted by the known facts. -- like the nonphysical solution to a quadratic. [00:25]
mircea_popescu it's not plausible. it is entertaining, but it lacks a fundamental point for plausibility : [00:25]
mircea_popescu it's unbalanced. [00:25]
asciilifeform unbalanced ? [00:26]
mircea_popescu yes. [00:26]
asciilifeform how's that [00:26]
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mircea_popescu well let's see. suppose you have a wol game table. [00:27]
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mircea_popescu while in principle any configuration is as possible as any other, the configuration you propose is mod2. ie, if the cell index is odd, cell is dead, if not, alive. [00:28]
mircea_popescu this is not actually a possible outcome. [00:28]
asciilifeform this is known as a 'garden of eden state' [00:28]
asciilifeform (in cellular automata jargon) [00:28]
mircea_popescu it's what i mean by unbalanced. [00:28]
mircea_popescu if you take "meaning" as a rough equivalent for entalpy, your thing is too meaningful to exist. [00:28]
asciilifeform but how does this apply? my hypothetical is a historically-humdrum 'skunk works' scenario [00:29]
mircea_popescu no, it's not. [00:29]
mircea_popescu your hypotethical is a brain in a jar separated from a pile of muscle in a barrel. [00:29]
mircea_popescu which both, independently, work, for the greater glory of theoretical abstraction [00:29]
mircea_popescu this is directly contradictory to how the world works, and specifically because your abstract objects tend to be contextless, which requires too large an expenditure of "meaning" for them to exist. [00:30]
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mircea_popescu which makes jurov's fap observation quite on point : you're not describing a real, live human female here, you're describing a mythological beast abstracted out of miles of pr0nz reel. [00:31]
asciilifeform let's give them some context, then. picture scenario where the $maxint in u.s. cryptologic work actually resulted in something useful. but, so useful that, like a thermonuke, it isn't fit to trot out on just any everyday occasion. [00:31]
asciilifeform how would this world's observables differ from the known observables? [00:31]
mircea_popescu well counterfactuals are problematic, but let's see if you can get painted into a corner. [00:32]
asciilifeform please do [00:32]
mircea_popescu does this SU exist ? [00:32]
mircea_popescu (something useful) [00:32]
asciilifeform that's the hypothesis. what if yes ? [00:33]
mircea_popescu we are already accepting your hypothesis, im asking you q's as if your h was reality. [00:33]
mircea_popescu so admitting it exists. has it ever been used ? [00:34]
asciilifeform well then. suppose, bush sr., or whoever, circa '92, whenever, was informed of the discovery, in his fuhrerbunker. then he proclaims: 'let's get the people with valuable secrets to use rsa. how to do this?' [00:35]
mircea_popescu ah won';t you just play my oracle here ? [00:35]
mircea_popescu jus answer what i ask, see where we end up. [00:35]
asciilifeform i'd say it has not been used. waiting to the pig to get fatter, before slaughter. [00:35]
mircea_popescu so it's never been used. is it physically located ? [00:35]
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asciilifeform sure. 'indiana jones vault' or the like. [00:36]
mircea_popescu does everybody know about it ? [00:36]
asciilifeform naturally not. [00:36]
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mircea_popescu what keeps central government from investigating this vault as a possible alien landing site ? [00:36]
asciilifeform some small circle of people would be privy to it. [00:37]
mircea_popescu are they in power ? [00:37]
asciilifeform like the proverbial 'bomb codes'. [00:37]
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asciilifeform 'in power' in as much as anyone guarding something of value can be thought of as 'in power.' [00:37]
mircea_popescu but if they are not in power absolutely, what keeps central government from investigating this vault as a possible alien landing site ? [00:38]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: familiar with the story of jimmy carter and 'area 51' known to the alien aficionados? [00:38]
mircea_popescu vaguely. [00:38]
asciilifeform it went entirely like the tale of gorbachev and andropov [00:38]
asciilifeform and the soviet gdp. [00:38]
mircea_popescu tales tend to all go alike for the reason that they're tales. [00:38]
asciilifeform 'mr carter, you aren't cleared for this, and if you ask again there will be problems.' [00:38]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, my q needs an answer :D [00:39]
* asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't personally boot carter - or gorbached - from the goodies vault. but tale is plausible. compartmentalization of 'fun secrets' is generally easy because of the miniscule number of qualified thieves - that is, folks who apprehend the true value of the goods. [00:40]
mircea_popescu but the people doing it have to be in power. [00:40]
mircea_popescu without the "will be problems" rider this fizzles. [00:41]
asciilifeform more traditional question - who, if anyone, can pilfer a working nuke? [00:41]
asciilifeform and correctly put it to its intended use [00:41]
mircea_popescu you're doing the psychic thing now, where you try to flee the experiment. [00:42]
asciilifeform just trying to argue against 'nothing so valuable can exist, it would've been lifted by now' [00:42]
mircea_popescu that's not what i said at any point [00:43]
asciilifeform help me along then [00:43]
asciilifeform what's the experiment here [00:43]
mircea_popescu well, either the SU keepers are in (absolute) power, or else they are not. [00:43]
mircea_popescu if they are not, the number of problems that appear is overwhelming. [00:43]
mircea_popescu if they are, then they have had to have kept it historically. this is also overwhelming. [00:44]
mircea_popescu it neatly reduces to an argument pro deus. [00:44]
asciilifeform why this dichotomy. is it not possible for them to have absolute power to guard 'the goods' but not, say, to control other aspects of the world ? like any ordinary guard [00:44]
mircea_popescu no. power does not divide. [00:44]
mircea_popescu this is why the government needs both the power to kill people and the power to inflate the currency, [00:44]
mircea_popescu and this is why wrestling any away is enough to kill the thing. [00:44]
asciilifeform so, continuing with this lemma, the 'guard' is an impossibility because, were he to exist, he could trivially order his supposed superiors to disappear forever up their own arses, should he wish this? [00:46]
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mircea_popescu basically. [00:48]
mircea_popescu now, in usual high fiction this is resolved as a bizarre order of sworn monks and so on [00:48]
mircea_popescu but mind ye that all through the middle ages about half the bastards were sons of monks. [00:48]
asciilifeform this is almost convincing re: the impossibility argument. but suppose the goods isn't a generic rsa pill, but something more akin to nuke. that is, oppenheimer & friends didn't run off to an island and form own kingdom, because their 'jewel' required astonishing resources to put into action (industrial empire) and not very useful on their own, on paper [00:49]
asciilifeform to make more concrete: [00:49]
asciilifeform say, a factoring algo that runs in polynomial time but with a stupidly large constant factor. [00:49]
asciilifeform i wouldn't imagine the 'sworn monks' can keep the lid on indefinitely - only thus far. as we've seen, they succeed in keeping the lid on 'suite a' & co. is the argument, then, that the pressure under the lid cannot be too high then ? [00:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform sure, but then does everybody know about it ? [00:51]
asciilifeform let's give example from outside of cryptology [00:51]
asciilifeform it is generally known that the 20th c. 'holy grail' of nuke engineering was the so-called 'pure fusion' device. [00:52]
asciilifeform that is, requiring no fissile initiator [00:52]
asciilifeform official story is that both east and west expended astonishing resources on the problem - and, generally believed, that nothing came of this. [00:52]
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asciilifeform if either side had tested a working pure fusion device, in the customary 'drilled well' method, the public would not necessarily have learned of the fact. [00:53]
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mircea_popescu but does this SU exist ? [00:53]
asciilifeform someone, somewhere, may well possess the secret of how to build a thermonuke using the materials of ordinary electronics. [00:53]
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asciilifeform i do not know whether it exists. [00:54]
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asciilifeform but posit that it could, given observables. [00:54]
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mircea_popescu !up MolokoDeck [00:58]
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MolokoDeck wondering what method(s) you had in mind for placing arbitrary hashes into the blockchain. [01:04]
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MolokoDeck i'm not sure a wallet API is adequate to sculpt transaction scripts to insert data. they're usually constrained to sending payments. bitcoind RPC calls would be needed for anything exotic. [01:06]
asciilifeform MolokoDeck: probably simplest solution: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490 -- but can be trivially improved on. [01:06]
assbot Loper OS » Practical Blockchain Telegraphy. [01:06]
MolokoDeck I'll look into it. [01:06]
MolokoDeck clue. [01:06]
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mircea_popescu MolokoDeck if the worst comes to worst, hash it into a bitcoin address and send there. [01:10]
MolokoDeck burn the minimum transaction fee/size sure. [01:11]
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mircea_popescu you burn that anyway. [01:11]
MolokoDeck was considering something that popped an invalid address then dismissed it before doing the actual spend. sort of a address=hashdata, oops, address=actualwalletaddress [01:11]
MolokoDeck I'd have to look more into how the stack language handles that or whether that's even doable with the restricted opcode set. [01:12]
MolokoDeck ok. I'll keep looking into it. solutions exist. [01:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1800 @ 0.00159967 = 2.8794 BTC [+] {3} [01:17]
mircea_popescu MolokoDeck actually i like the model whereby the actual string to certify is hashed as a privkey then made into a bitcoin address then have a little something sent there [01:17]
mircea_popescu because anyone can spend the something, and in so doing super-prove the whole charade. [01:18]
mircea_popescu basically we get a btc faucet built in. [01:18]
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ben_vulpes bitcoin scavenger hunts! [01:20]
ben_vulpes find the correct string, spend the btc! [01:20]
ben_vulpes has this been done? [01:20]
mircea_popescu not rly. [01:21]
ben_vulpes could be a neat implementation for your next cryptogram, mircea_popescu [01:21]
punkman there's been a few [01:21]
mircea_popescu MolokoDeck and also there's no cruft, perfectly standard tx, can use any webwallet, it's perfect. look no further, this is what i want. [01:22]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i considered it but it'd kinda make it only 1 guy. [01:22]
punkman MolokoDeck: in case you didn't see this in the logs: https://github.com/maraoz/proofofexistence [01:22]
assbot maraoz/proofofexistence GitHub [01:22]
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chetty find the correct string, spend the btc!//souds better than rolling dice games :)) [01:26]
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nubbins` ^ XD [01:32]
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mircea_popescu ;;rate X-Rob 1 splendid work on that derpcoin. https://bitcointa.lk/threads/unattanium-broken-by-design.351020/ so much lol. [01:49]
assbot Unattanium: Broken by design. | Bitcointa.lk [01:49]
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mircea_popescu !s cryptmarketcap.com [01:52]
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mircea_popescu pankkake what's the pool situation on atc ? [01:56]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell X-Rob say when you're back. [01:59]
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mircea_popescu !up X-Rob [02:00]
-assbot- You voiced X-Rob for 30 minutes. [02:00]
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X-Rob I've been here [02:00]
mircea_popescu ah hey. [02:00]
X-Rob Thanks 8) [02:00]
mircea_popescu so since i like you now, you can have 2 btc for the 2 month aus3 miner contract. [02:01]
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mircea_popescu you happy with weekly payments ? [02:01]
X-Rob mircea_popescu: I'll be home in about 4 hours or so [02:01]
mircea_popescu (weekly advance payments) [02:01]
X-Rob I'll set it up with you them [02:02]
mircea_popescu cool. [02:02]
X-Rob mircea_popescu: sign up with a lease rig account [02:02]
X-Rob They do all that stuff for me [02:02]
mircea_popescu but i dun wanna ;/ [02:02]
X-Rob You pay them, however often you want [02:02]
X-Rob mircea_popescu: hrm. How are you planning on controlling the rig then? [02:03]
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mircea_popescu i was thinking of gving you a pool to point at and forgetting about it. [02:05]
X-Rob mircea_popescu: well, if that's all you want, no problems [02:06]
mircea_popescu cool. [02:06]
mircea_popescu and also, you can self-voice now. [02:06]
mircea_popescu all you need is to pm assbot !up while idented. [02:06]
X-Rob Thanks [02:06]
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mircea_popescu a btw. dignork where are you hashing ? [02:08]
dignork last few hours it was offline, but in general it's solo [02:09]
mircea_popescu ah k [02:09]
dignork BingoBoingo was askin about stratum: i have a simple setup with local altcoind and https://github.com/pocesar/node-stratum [02:10]
assbot pocesar/node-stratum GitHub [02:10]
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mircea_popescu ;;gettrust Mortimer452 [02:20]
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[]bot Bet created: "BTC 100 times bigger than LTC Feb 1st" http://bitbet.us/bet/1024/ [02:23]
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mircea_popescu %p [02:23]
atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.87 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [02:24]
mircea_popescu mod6 http://ispace.co.uk/ << any way to add these ppls ? [02:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0007205 = 2.9541 BTC [-] {2} [02:24]
[]bot Bet created: "Bitcoin over $600 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1025/ [02:27]
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dignork ;;later tell BingoBoingo atc stratum server -> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3f743a63dbf257b11641 [02:30]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:30]
assbot sample ATC stratum server - uses https://github.com/pocesar/node-stratum [02:30]
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mircea_popescu dignork honestly i think i'd rather use a pool. get some of that reaganomics trickle down effect going. [02:31]
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RagnarDanneskjol i know these guys host/build stratum pools as described: http://www.livechains.net/ [02:38]
assbot LiveChains UK [02:38]
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dignork mircea_popescu: I ran it this way to play with the technology, economical/game theory considerations are not so important for me on alt. [02:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6259 @ 0.00072098 = 4.5126 BTC [+] [02:40]
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mircea_popescu yeah. [02:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00072094 = 14.8874 BTC [-] [03:18]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC worth over $5000 before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/716/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 16(Y):84(N) by weight. Total bet: 46.26359775 BTC. Current weight: 34,220. [03:30]
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mod6 <+mircea_popescu> mod6 http://ispace.co.uk/ << any way to add these ppls ? << sure no prob. [06:19]
assbot iSpace Mining Pools [06:19]
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mod6 %ispace [06:44]
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atcbot [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 3.64 TH/s [06:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6448 @ 0.0007198 = 4.6413 BTC [-] [06:46]
mod6 ;;later tell moiety I have some changes to the wiki you might be able to help me with. Ping me when you get a chance. Thanks! [06:47]
gribble The operation succeeded. [06:47]
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mod6 ;;rate moiety 1 Helped me with the atcbot section in the bitcoin-assets wiki. [06:55]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user moiety has been recorded. [06:55]
decimation ;;rate asciilifeform 2 engineer [06:58]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. [06:58]
decimation stupid netsplits [06:59]
decimation ;;rate asciilifeform 2 engineer [07:00]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user asciilifeform has changed from 2 to 2. [07:00]
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ben_vulpes http://i.imgur.com/d9VTCQP.jpg [07:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00071946 = 10.9358 BTC [-] {2} [07:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29499999 = 0.59 BTC [+] [07:18]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.295 = 0.59 BTC [+] [07:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11058 @ 0.00071861 = 7.9464 BTC [-] {2} [07:26]
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ben_vulpes ;;isitdown graphviz.org [07:55]
gribble graphviz.org is down [07:55]
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mircea_popescu mod6 but in the %p ? [07:59]
mircea_popescu %p [07:59]
atcbot No data returned from PityThePool.com [08:00]
atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.70 TH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.23 TH/s [08:00]
mircea_popescu a cool. [08:01]
mircea_popescu %d [08:01]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 148413.25 in 1956 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -92.10 [08:01]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [08:03]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 516.36, Best ask: 516.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 516.4, 24 hour volume: 12075.74130533, 24 hour low: 485.0, 24 hour high: 529.8, 24 hour vwap: 509.517568638 [08:03]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo ah, i see. ask the guy to come over ? [21:48]
mircea_popescu we gotta sort this pool thing somehows. [21:48]
BingoBoingo I sent an email yesterday, suppose I might send another [21:48]
mircea_popescu nah [21:49]
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mircea_popescu !up putler [21:50]
-assbot- You voiced putler for 30 minutes. [21:50]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform re gpg clunk (not to be confused with pgp issues) : "MolokoDeck : for some reason gpg returns the useful info about the status of a signature verify via the error channel." [21:54]
mircea_popescu that "some reason" being rms being a fucktard. [21:54]
BingoBoingo %d [21:56]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 163016.03 in 1942 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -91.32 [21:56]
BingoBoingo %p [21:58]
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atcbot No data returned from PityThePool.com [21:59]
atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.56 TH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.39 TH/s [21:59]
BingoBoingo This is an amazing thing about -assets, you raise awareness to a problem with one of the pet jokes, and things get done [21:59]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [21:59]
mircea_popescu gotta keep the pets fed. [22:03]
thestringpuller it is kinda weird how GPG returns useful information via stderr [22:03]
thestringpuller even the return code... [22:04]
mircea_popescu but it's more spyful that way!!! [22:04]
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-assbot- You voiced nagzter for 30 minutes. [22:08]
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nagzter hey mircea_popescu [22:08]
mircea_popescu hey there. [22:08]
nagzter 'sup [22:08]
mircea_popescu i have nfi yet. [22:09]
mircea_popescu how's the what was it... [22:10]
mircea_popescu some altcoin ? [22:10]
BingoBoingo %t [22:15]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 172 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 133k High: 188 Low: 170 VWAP: 180 [22:15]
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mircea_popescu computer bedtime. [22:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 64 @ 0.01371 = 0.8774 BTC [-] [22:29]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 38 @ 0.02523161 = 0.9588 BTC [-] [22:33]
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chetty http://news.yahoo.com/lashes-saudi-woman-called-morality-police-liars-newspaper-120113841.html;_ylt=AwrBJR48zfBTV3MA0hXQtDMD [22:52]
assbot Lashes for Saudi woman who called morality police liars: newspaper - Yahoo News [22:52]
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BingoBoingo %p [23:05]
atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.10 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 5.13 TH/s [23:05]
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atcbot 4 hours 4 minutes and 57 seconds [23:06]
kakobrekla lolk [23:07]
mircea_popescu anyone care to suggest a typically black female name ? [23:08]
mthreat laquisha [23:12]
mthreat the previous owner of my black 350z told me he had named the car laquisha, "his black mistress" [23:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21341 @ 0.00071269 = 15.2095 BTC [-] {2} [23:20]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/buttocks/ [23:27]
assbot Perfect buttocks now! [23:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20476 @ 0.00071331 = 14.6057 BTC [+] [23:28]
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