Forum logs for 16 Sep 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
BingoBoingo Who'da thunk armor beats stealth in the air [00:00]
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mod6 asciilifeform: ok, added the link colorization and a graph label [00:10]
mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/vpatch-nodes.html [00:10]
assbot GRAPH_0 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KdVBAp ) [00:10]
* BingoBoingo suspects Tanzania is swiftly moving from joke to candidate for hardware #b-a [00:10]
pete_dushenski i thought it was tasmania ? [00:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75600 @ 0.0007609 = 57.524 BTC [+] {3} [00:12]
BingoBoingo Was it? [00:14]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-09-2015#1274499 << nm. i just read and remembered what i wanted to. [00:14]
assbot Logged on 15-09-2015 14:03:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this leaves who? tanzania ? [00:14]
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pete_dushenski i was imaging this guy protecting the dc : https://youtu.be/dzPxndZGxt0?t=36s [00:15]
assbot Dr Devil and Mr Hare Clip - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1gpMHVz ) [00:15]
pete_dushenski *imagining [00:15]
pete_dushenski "A woman is suing New York City after she spent eight days in a mental hospital because, she claims, police didn't believe she, a black woman, could own a BMW." [00:18]
pete_dushenski "When she arrived at the impound lot and told officials she was looking for her car - a 2003 BMW 325Cl, she knew there was something wrong as soon as she requested her vehicle. "I just felt like from the moment I said I owned a BMW, I was looked at as a liar," Brock told PIX 11. "They put me in handcuffs and said they just need to put me in handcuffs to take me to my car. And I said OK, whatever it's gonna take [00:18]
pete_dushenski to get to my car."" [00:18]
pete_dushenski "Doctors believed she was suffering from bipolar disorder, she claims, and tried for days to get Brock to admit she didn't own the luxury car. They also tried to convince Brock that she wasn't really a banker and President Obama didn't really follow her on Twitter, though both facts are true. [00:19]
pete_dushenski The worst part? She was stuck with a $13,000 hospital bill for the pleasure." [00:19]
asciilifeform mod6: it is very spiffy [00:19]
asciilifeform mod6: and ought to be on the www [00:19]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: wai wut [00:19]
asciilifeform what happened to titles ? [00:19]
pete_dushenski $13k is ~= to cost of her car. [00:20]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: nypd happened [00:20]
pete_dushenski what do you think happened to mobile operator schmuck ? [00:20]
pete_dushenski not so different. [00:20]
asciilifeform mobile operator ? [00:21]
pete_dushenski sorry, this guy http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1275921 [00:21]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 02:39:07; pete_dushenski: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/15/us-usa-fraud-blackberry-idUSKCN0RF28Q20150915 << moar 'legal' lulz [00:21]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456 [00:22]
assbot Logged on 02-09-2015 04:15:38; asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule. [00:22]
pete_dushenski ah yes, the famous schedule. [00:22]
pete_dushenski you wouldn't happen to have a copy would you ? [00:22]
asciilifeform this here is that rare bird, the 'five-year plan' that might actually get met. [00:23]
pete_dushenski or is it in the 'do not share' stash with 0days ? [00:23]
pete_dushenski ;P [00:23]
asciilifeform it is being spammed far and wide. between the lines. [00:23]
BingoBoingo Fuck, much better undercard on the recent fight than pacquiao mayweather had [00:26]
BingoBoingo Seriously second undercard fight has a black swede [00:28]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1275760 << afaik this is known as "doing their research for free". [00:29]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 01:03:40; BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Looks like Tesla is getting smashed between actual car companies [00:29]
mircea_popescu what noobs/wannabe's/children are for. [00:29]
pete_dushenski maybe that's where germany's gold went [00:29]
pete_dushenski spent by muskotron on electric car research [00:30]
pete_dushenski probably not a terrible use of the yellow bricks, really [00:30]
danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-09-2015#1275275 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2014#810796 [00:31]
assbot Logged on 15-09-2015 20:25:14; anton_osika: mircea_popescu: you wrote the contract - the "long party" is the payer of the invoice". Nowhere does it state that the "long party" will need a PGP signature for payment. This is solely interpretation - and you are NOT paying for a future delivery contract. Do you have any rationale for this? [00:31]
assbot Logged on 26-08-2014 23:24:06; antonosika: BingoBoingo: the problem is that it is possible to argue that the deposit was not from the long party [00:31]
mod6 <+asciilifeform> mod6: and ought to be on the www << cool, added it under the links section for the time being. when I get the v documentation complete, etc, i'll create a section for V itself. [00:32]
mircea_popescu nah, you can't argue that. doesn't matter who it's from. [00:32]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what is 'undercard' ? [00:33]
asciilifeform sometimes i half-wonder if BingoBoingo is posting from a parallel world [00:33]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO9_ZjcWgAAMGXT.png:large << the only thing this graph shows is the loss of relevancy of the measurements, and perhaps the infiltration of internet discourse by astroturf. [00:34]
asciilifeform not the one mircea_popescu lives in, but yet another [00:34]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OWhepX ) [00:34]
mircea_popescu but mostly the former. [00:34]
danielpbarron mircea_popescu, he goes on to agree with BingoBoingo, that the sender is not the "long party" [00:34]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The fights not in the event title. This event's title is Mayweather-Berto. And yet fights serving as the prelude much better. [00:34]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron well that much is right. the sender don't enter into it, the long party is whoever can sign with that sig. [00:34]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu, he goes on to agree with BingoBoingo, that the sender is not the "long party" << I never talked on who is what party. I just was on people with keys are parties. Without keys STFU. [00:35]
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mircea_popescu i thought you meant the other way [00:35]
BingoBoingo sometimes i half-wonder if BingoBoingo is posting from a parallel world << Sometimes. Maybe? [00:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00075636 = 4.3869 BTC [-] [00:35]
mircea_popescu poor guy tho. it must suck to lock yourself out of what must in context be a fortune, have nothing but yourself to blame, and live among idiots dedicated to upholding the proposition you must find a scapegoat. [00:35]
danielpbarron I meant to point out that his latest interpretation contradicts his past [00:36]
asciilifeform 3 btc is a fortune now ?! [00:36]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: 80 nao [00:36]
asciilifeform iirc fella was in sweden [00:36]
mircea_popescu no see, we live in 2016. everything's worthless but for WHAT ITS POTENTIAL IS [00:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45794 @ 0.00075595 = 34.618 BTC [-] {3} [00:36]
mircea_popescu in losing THE POTENTIAL of those magical 3 btc the guy lost more than a medieval man losing his soul. [00:36]
asciilifeform l0l [00:36]
asciilifeform he could go and buy 3 more, no ? [00:37]
mircea_popescu but NOT THOSE ONES [00:37]
* asciilifeform thoroughly perplexed [00:37]
mircea_popescu "so what if you rape and kill her, she hasa sister right ?" [00:37]
asciilifeform mod6: laugh if you will, but that graph doesn't fit on my display [00:37]
mircea_popescu or, as in that epic ro joke, gypsy woman comes before her husband holding by the arm an incredibly dirty kid [00:37]
mircea_popescu "do we wash it or make another ?" [00:38]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1275822 << mass = inertia. she can shoot more gun than you can!!1 [00:41]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 01:40:34; BingoBoingo: Not that the average 'Murican hamplanet could actually use a firearm in conflict with effectiveness [00:41]
asciilifeform recoil-dampener aha [00:41]
asciilifeform sorta like the springs field artillery have [00:41]
BingoBoingo ... << mass = inertia. she can shoot more gun than you can!!1 << plasticity of frame and mobility of weapon are over-riding considerations [00:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu, hanbot, anyone else manually working through the patch history, don't miss http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/vpatch-nodes.html [00:42]
assbot V_GRAPH ... ( http://bit.ly/1KdVBAp ) [00:42]
mircea_popescu "A U.S. Air Force general on Monday cited what he called "alarming" moves by the Russian military to beef up its air forces in the years since the invasion of Georgia in 2008 and to establish firm defenses around areas like Crimea." [00:43]
mircea_popescu aka, intel's back, if we send bombers we lose the bombers ; if we send carriers we lose the carriers. [00:44]
asciilifeform the interesting tidbit in that one was kaliningrad [00:44]
mircea_popescu why ? [00:45]
asciilifeform aka königsberg [00:45]
mircea_popescu whole thing's pretty much a base. [00:45]
asciilifeform like sevastopol. [00:45]
asciilifeform usg, like any cheap thief, tries to steal what is bolted down poorest. [00:45]
asciilifeform it's next. [00:45]
asciilifeform expect a shitstorm re: how 'unfair' it is for ru to have this hongkong [00:45]
mircea_popescu nah. ironically enough it's actually being overinvested. they don't mind. [00:46]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1275943 << this only WAS the case, briefly, a) because it enjoyed the niche created by "Steath" buzzstream, and b) pre missiles. [00:46]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 02:58:13; BingoBoingo: Who'da thunk armor beats stealth in the air [00:46]
mircea_popescu otherwise... a-10 goes pop just as well as the space station. [00:47]
BingoBoingo otherwise... a-10 goes pop just as well as the space station. << Pops, but into survivable, repariable pieces normally with pilot intact [00:47]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1275960 << why the fuck would you go in person to pick up your stolen bmw. [00:48]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 03:16:48; pete_dushenski: The worst part? She was stuck with a $13,000 hospital bill for the pleasure." [00:48]
mod6 <+asciilifeform> mod6: laugh if you will, but that graph doesn't fit on my display << it kinda doesn't on my default width on my notebook either. i have to zoom out a bit to see the full thing. :/ [00:48]
mod6 on my default phone browser too, the text in the nodes seems to bleed over the boundry. but it's ok with FF on my phone, and FF on my notebook [00:49]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: what, impound lots have delivery services in ro ? cuz this isn't a thing elsewhere [00:49]
mod6 it says "make sure you're using v.18 of As_svg" and I'm using .23, but.. dunno yet on that one. [00:49]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski generally you send a junior lawyer. [00:50]
* pete_dushenski makes note of this for future reference [00:50]
pete_dushenski bbiab [00:50]
mircea_popescu cuz they're always fucking far, and always contentious etc. otherwise you blow a day. [00:50]
asciilifeform waiwat [00:51]
asciilifeform was this a case of It Was Always In My Family (tm) ? [00:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88650 @ 0.00075861 = 67.2508 BTC [+] {3} [00:52]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-08-2015#1248905 << as in these [00:52]
assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 21:20:54; mircea_popescu: now suppose i "own" the same, "in the family", but my family is a bunch of poor peasants from honduras. [00:52]
mircea_popescu no idea. [00:52]
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mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3kya1n/bitcoinxt_firmly_rejected_by_miners_as_0_xt_mined/ << lol @ the derpage. [00:53]
assbot BitcoinXT firmly rejected by miners as 0 XT mined blocks in past week. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1LfPRbm ) [00:54]
mircea_popescu ". I would expect the big Chinese miner operations to already be compatible with big blocks." [00:54]
mircea_popescu redditard KNOWS the true meta-truth hidden behind the merely perceptible truth. [00:54]
mircea_popescu but i lolled at the davout / stolfi exchange. [00:55]
asciilifeform i thought the 'meta' version was where hearn ordered the nodes to lie and pretend to be ordinary phoundation machines [00:55]
asciilifeform (iirc he did) [00:56]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/IcLH6dl.jpg << dja know what the scariest thing about this pic is ? [00:57]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LfQ7XV ) [00:57]
mircea_popescu that girl went "can you imagine wqha that smells like ?!" and i retorted "like nothing. none of that stuff rots." [00:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that it can be seen on EVERY PARKING LOT [00:58]
asciilifeform in usa. [00:58]
asciilifeform for realz. [00:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform that is like... and obama will order the atmosphere to lie and pretend it's global cooling. [01:02]
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asciilifeform http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-15/why-hewlett-packard-just-fired-another-30000 << usg burns a bit of furniture [11:55]
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mircea_popescu heh. lemme guess, that fiorina chick did such an amazing woman job the company's fucked now. [11:57]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [11:57]
asciilifeform mod6: i only see one filename in the arrow mouseovers [11:57]
mod6 yeah, thats atm. i haven't updated it yet. [11:57]
asciilifeform ah [11:58]
asciilifeform ;;isup trilema.com [11:58]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276103 << they can, therefore they must. [11:59]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 05:49:57; pete_dushenski: honestly, how fucking smart and alert do you have to be to drive a car ? [11:59]
gribble trilema.com is up [11:59]
asciilifeform 'isup' officially worthless [11:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what did you think ddos meant ? [11:59]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: idk, let's see the chart ? [12:00]
mircea_popescu which chart ? [12:00]
asciilifeform bw/time [12:00]
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mircea_popescu idk, who even cares anymore. over 10, prolly under 100 [12:01]
asciilifeform ddos artist can saturate arbitrary pipe for less than it costs usg to house one prisoner. [12:02]
mircea_popescu prolly. [12:02]
asciilifeform which is why the days of items hosted on just one box and handed out to the beoble just for the asking, are numbered. [12:03]
asciilifeform at least with respect to us. [12:03]
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asciilifeform the way it oughta work is, knock on one of 10,001 doors with signed packet, then get to talk. not before, and not otherwise. [12:04]
mircea_popescu yes yes they are numbered. [12:05]
mircea_popescu now what ? [12:05]
shinohai ;;isup qntra.net [12:05]
gribble qntra.net is up [12:05]
shinohai kek [12:05]
asciilifeform how does that thing work anyway [12:05]
punkman it doesn't work [12:05]
asciilifeform no shit [12:05]
mircea_popescu afaik it calls "down for everyone" or w/e it was [12:05]
mircea_popescu http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/qntra.net [12:06]
mircea_popescu apparently not. [12:06]
mircea_popescu maybe it just calls "echo $x is up" lol [12:06]
asciilifeform 'Donate to help refugees and migrants in urgent need. We'll match your donation.' << google. [12:07]
mircea_popescu .... [12:08]
asciilifeform egregious public masturbation by usg [12:08]
mircea_popescu wtf is google, the employer of syria and you're their parents and let's make an employee roth ira ?! [12:08]
mod6 asciilifeform: anyway, the last edge isn't cooperating hehe. I'll have to mess around with this later, I'll let you all know when there is another update. [12:09]
kakobrekla gribble timeouts after 5 sec, isup.me doesnt resolve qntra for longer than that [12:09]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276129 << i wasn't giving a shit then, either, for one thing. for the other ;; ANSWER SECTION: qntra.net. 0 IN A 188.68.240.165 so i dunno, maybe dns sucked then ? no idea. [12:11]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 07:27:54; copypaste: i guess maybe if Mircea unset the A record to try to stop the attack, but if the attacker already knows the target IP that won't help. [12:11]
mircea_popescu but it occurs to me mebbe i should get a box with the dudes hosting this guy. [12:12]
mircea_popescu copypaste who was it again ? [12:12]
shinohai ^_________________^ [12:12]
mircea_popescu shinohai it won [12:12]
shinohai it? [12:13]
mircea_popescu t, conceivably, do anything about ddos. but i was looking for a place to host nsa if you recall. [12:13]
shinohai Oh yes, poor phuctor is still down :( [12:14]
asciilifeform shinohai: it presently has no home. [12:14]
mircea_popescu "If the reward isn't earned by 2016-02-11 00:00:00 UTC, it will be split evenly between NoiseTor and OpenBazaar." [12:15]
mircea_popescu bwahaha gtfo. stupid ass scams. [12:15]
shinohai I know, my rss feed stopped working and I saw you discussing it. [12:15]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276142 << it's the ONLY retarded soup they got fed in school. [12:16]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 08:45:48; shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276137 <<< reading this, it so smacks of desperation yet the author still has the delusion that bip101 is going to do a 360 and become standard. [12:16]
mircea_popescu cinderella gotta win because she was indicated by the scriptwriter as the good thing. he has this mental ability, to watch reality like it were hollywood fiction, and identify what the script writer means [12:17]
mircea_popescu american genre savvy for a cold, cold world THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW ITSELF WORKS!!11 [12:17]
mircea_popescu but dontcha mind it little girl, do something stupid and google will match it! [12:17]
mircea_popescu after all, that's what they've been doing throughout your life so far! you ask something dumb in the box, it pretends like it's a question and it pretrends like it has answers. [12:18]
mircea_popescu selected! just for you! [12:18]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276367 << which ? [12:19]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 15:10:00; mircea_popescu: but it occurs to me mebbe i should get a box with the dudes hosting this guy. [12:19]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276150 << you got it backwards. being a fucking animal DOES mean you must be poor. because poverty is earned. [12:19]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 08:52:26; shinohai: Just because you are poor doesn't mean you have to live like a fucking animal. [12:19]
mircea_popescu people keep going on about how riches aren't, at least some of the time, earned. big fucking whoop. [12:20]
mircea_popescu the issue is, poverty is always earned. [12:20]
mircea_popescu and it's hard fucking work being that fucking dumb. [12:20]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform copypaste fellow, runs that chan thing [12:20]
asciilifeform ah [12:20]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the funny part is that i know folks who are not in any usual sense poor (as in, lacking for money) with car like that. [12:21]
mircea_popescu sure, unrelated concerns [12:21]
asciilifeform u.s. folk tend to spend astonishing amounts of time in their cars, and they begin to resemble their usual dwellings [12:21]
* mircea_popescu looks around [12:22]
asciilifeform while the traditional path to bumhood nearly always involves a stage of 'live in your car' [12:22]
mircea_popescu nope, no food containers. because... my food doesn't come in containers. [12:22]
* asciilifeform ditto [12:22]
mircea_popescu dude wtf does that mean, "live in your car". [12:22]
mircea_popescu like, where's the shower, in your car. [12:22]
mircea_popescu where's the kitchen, in your car. [12:23]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it means that a fella who went flat broke will sell his house, his clothes, and only lastly the car. [12:23]
lobbes no need for showers when bum [12:23]
asciilifeform kitchen ahahahahahaha [12:23]
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mircea_popescu are these men so utterly sexed they "live" where they sleep, because they always sleep "at home" ? [12:23]
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asciilifeform as described by orlov, even; the reason why the car is sold last of all is that without it, no money. [12:24]
asciilifeform as in, no possibility of earning a wage [12:24]
asciilifeform for typical schmuck [12:24]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276193 << heh. i wonder if microsoft matches that. [12:24]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 12:19:29; punkman: https://twitter.com/Zerodium "Our price range for 0days we acquired so far: Mobile $100K, Browsers $50K-30K+Sandbx/Krnl $50K-30K, Flash $45K-25K, Office $40K-25K, Java $0" [12:24]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno who'd hire that. [12:24]
asciilifeform Sellbrooklynbridgeodium [12:25]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: who'd hire what? a hobo? plenty of folks, so long as he finds a place he can sneak into and wash [12:25]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276216 << none of this reads credible, ftr. [12:26]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:22:37; punkman: "Cryptome and JY use a slew of PKs and IDs other than those compromised. Many one-time. For mutual protection, to expire, isolate, expunge." "Few of Cryptome and JY PKs are on manipulable key servers. And none via transgressable WoT or cryptoparty. More signs cloak imposters." [12:26]
asciilifeform it actually reads very much like j.y.'s drivel on crypto ml [12:26]
punkman mircea_popescu: I'm sure meta-JY doesn't even use PGP for windows [12:26]
mircea_popescu ikr? [12:26]
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mircea_popescu in an excel spreadsheet. [12:26]
mircea_popescu "transgressable WoT" ? da fuck is that even supposed to be. [12:27]
punkman maybe he meant traversable [12:27]
mircea_popescu maybe he meant his mother's half price till xmas. [12:27]
thestringpuller http://dpaste.com/0TMHA7C.txt << #bitcoinxt stupid [12:28]
thestringpuller person claims Coinbase et. al will use consumer deposits to finance their side of the hard fork war [12:28]
thestringpuller scandalous as shit. [12:28]
mircea_popescu you know, this "fiction as reality/reality as fiction" approach fits the usian behaviour remarkably well. they "feel bad for animals" because they think the superset of "animals" is in a disnety cartoon / the guy in a suit at disney world. as above, the lost XT imbecile imagines he has identified in a putative script of an imaginary film of reality the chekov gun, and so therefore, economy of means, bip 101 necessarily [12:29]
mircea_popescu will happen because things can't just go to waste (in fiction - nevermind that in reality 99% of everything exists as waste and that includes his entire existence) [12:29]
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mircea_popescu these schmucks doing "op security" like it is a sort of literotica novella, you know, "transgressable WoT". what, is it not a word ? [12:30]
mircea_popescu it's a word! it's in a book! all is well! [12:30]
asciilifeform 11:15 < thestringpuller> Users didn't sign up to have their coins sold on the open market to finance a war... [12:30]
asciilifeform 11:15 < Aquentin> dude, they a proxy for the users [12:30]
asciilifeform 11:15 < Aquentin> and the users support bip101, some 80%... so saying bitpay or coinbase is a shortcut for saying users would... [12:30]
asciilifeform ^ gold. [12:30]
mircea_popescu hey, it's how usg works! [12:31]
asciilifeform how else. [12:31]
mircea_popescu i have little doubt this is exactly what they'd do [12:31]
mircea_popescu fortunately nobody uses them. [12:31]
mircea_popescu (actually, for all you know aquentin fellow got this brilliant idea by reading teh logs, im pretty sure it was discussed coupla months back) [12:31]
asciilifeform more than once. [12:32]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276218 << i am still "very interested" to hear the details that emerge from the "thorough investigation" Freenode promised back the first time imbecile usg tried to disrupt b-a. [12:32]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:29:47; punkman: "very interested to see what details (if any) emerge from @cryptomeorg regarding its supposed key compromise." Answer: "Suspects: Truecrypt, SCS in DC, PGP flaw, all the other usuals." [12:32]
asciilifeform standard buterin's waterfall. [12:32]
punkman asciilifeform: any clue what "SCS in DC" might be? [12:33]
mircea_popescu speshul comm services ? [12:33]
asciilifeform 'special collections service' [12:33]
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punkman butts https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPBXTsSWwAAmbX7.jpg:large [12:34]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Of2Mfs ) [12:34]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you once said bitcoin will get rid of the stupid by pushing the 99% of garbage and waste so far underground we don't have to deal with it. Can this happen sooner plz? [12:34]
mircea_popescu no. this is how it looks. [12:35]
mircea_popescu they sit around agreeing with each other on reddit. that is what it is. [12:35]
thestringpuller ah. i recall on trilema (which i can't access right now due to DDOS or something), the bitcoiner's press guide: "Ignore them, they don't matter." Guess this applies to the garbage as well. [12:36]
mircea_popescu well you know, you wanna im with derps, you get what they got. if you didn't want any, talk to someone else. [12:37]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: the annoying thing is that this will need to happen, apparently, at the packet level. [12:37]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: and a bit sooner than expected. [12:37]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276223 << in argentina the same 500 (in their estimation) gets you 15" 1.4k. [12:38]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:39:41; Azelphur: 3840 X 2160 [12:38]
mircea_popescu socialist implementation of "respeto por el trabajador" [12:38]
asciilifeform actually that korean piece of shit is ~the~ implementation of 'respeto por el trabajador' [12:38]
asciilifeform i'd take a 1993 vga crt over it. [12:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170811 @ 0.00076519 = 130.7029 BTC [+] {8} [12:39]
mircea_popescu o.O [12:39]
asciilifeform with lcd panels, as everything else, nobody cancelled the old adage 'tanstaafl' [12:40]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276234 << shit now i gotta change my browser. svg fails to render ;/ [12:40]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:53:26; mod6: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et. al: check it out, I also now have added who has signed which vpatch on-mouseover to http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/vpatch-nodes.html [12:40]
asciilifeform (pronounce like Schutzstaffel !) [12:40]
mod6 oh dang, mircea_popescu. and it did render before? [12:41]
mircea_popescu nah. [12:41]
asciilifeform sorta why i liked the ascii art one [12:41]
mircea_popescu i was trying to not care before. [12:41]
mod6 oh [12:42]
mod6 yeah, i see what you mean. [12:42]
mod6 i'll see what I can do about getting a ascii one generated too. [12:43]
mircea_popescu anyway, looks great on firefox. [12:43]
mircea_popescu nah, dun bother. [12:43]
mircea_popescu svg gotta work that's all there is to it. ima see what i can possibly do. [12:43]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276260 << don't those stupid ass power leds bother you ? [12:44]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 14:04:04; kakobrekla: here i was doing a comparison for korean cockroaches - bleeding fail: http://i.imgur.com/82Z88Nv.jpg [12:44]
asciilifeform i turn mine off. [12:45]
mircea_popescu they got those things to where they came right off a tanning bed by now, i gotta run around with ductape and put TWELVE LAYERS on everything [12:45]
asciilifeform (decent panels let you do so without desoldering) [12:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i turned some off with a clipper also. [12:45]
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kakobrekla i taped them over for the few days i had those things installed [12:45]
mircea_popescu i do not believe in cosmetic interventions to remedy defects. i'd much rather take out a bad led like that with a red hot poker [12:45]
kakobrekla why take out led if not keeping screen [12:46]
kakobrekla let somebody else bother with it. [12:46]
mircea_popescu right, those i tape. [12:46]
mircea_popescu just, you know, imagine my face when it shone through one layer of duct tape ff [12:46]
kakobrekla lol [12:46]
mircea_popescu wtf must be going on in these people's heads, "5 lumen, ok led, 165 lumen, BEST LED!11" [12:47]
kakobrekla more IS better [12:47]
kakobrekla large amount of phone number also. [12:47]
mircea_popescu why not just put some plutonium. cherenkov effect makes air blue!11 [12:47]
asciilifeform one more thing 'eizo' got right. [12:47]
mircea_popescu i guess it's because you can't turn that off huh. [12:47]
asciilifeform where everyone else shat pants [12:47]
mircea_popescu the ONLY reason leds ever got to be popular is that they had DISCREET light originally. ie, you couldn't really tell with a proper light on. [12:48]
pete_dushenski eh apple cinema displays ain't so bad, just... apple [12:48]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: every single one i ever saw in person was terrible [12:48]
asciilifeform srsly, glossy lcd !!!!? [12:48]
asciilifeform fuck that. [12:48]
pete_dushenski glossy ? oh that's only the new ones. [12:49]
pete_dushenski yes, terrible things. [12:49]
asciilifeform the old ones were terrible also. [12:49]
asciilifeform expensive, sure. but eyes bleed. [12:49]
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pete_dushenski eyes bleed ? [12:49]
asciilifeform yes. if you're used to proper lcd. [12:49]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276271 << 0.5th world problems!!1 [12:50]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 14:06:07; kakobrekla: i have a color calibrator and i couldnt get these to sync color no matter what i did [12:50]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: how do oyu feel about DLP? [12:50]
kakobrekla im happy with my dells. as for the button, its so dim i cant tell if its painted or lit [12:50]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: got one in the bedroom. a nice one, too. but wouldn't dream of using it for actual work. [12:50]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: it is strictly for watching films [12:51]
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kakobrekla well if you have more than 1 screen and colors are off, its annoying and it gets progressively more annoying with the screen count [12:52]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: and last i checked, there is precisely one maker of usable (solid-state light source) large dlp machines, also. [12:52]
asciilifeform of all people... casio. [12:52]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/come-see-what-positive-affirmative-etc-mean/ [12:52]
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assbot Come see what "positive", "affirmative" etc mean! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmYn34 ) [12:52]
mircea_popescu ok there we go. [12:52]
thestringpuller i thought TI also had a market in DLP too [12:52]
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asciilifeform thestringpuller: they only make the chip [12:52]
mircea_popescu !up ghtdak [12:52]
-assbot- You voiced ghtdak for 30 minutes. [12:53]
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asciilifeform thestringpuller: i'm speaking of the entire projector [12:53]
kakobrekla because white is green on one screen, yellow on the other, green on the third and red on the fourth [12:53]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [12:53]
mircea_popescu watching full panel porn should be a pretty decent exercise in impresionism [12:53]
mircea_popescu "yo tits, why's her tits turn green on the upstroke ?" "she's too excited to contain her inner greens" [12:54]
lobbes oh nice, qntra's back up too [12:54]
mircea_popescu quick everyone, before the next one! [12:54]
mircea_popescu do the deeds! [12:54]
pete_dushenski https://luminous-landscape.com/eizo-coloredge-cg301w-vs-the-apple-30/ << "And I cannot emphasize enough what a difference it makes to be able to sit in front of a display for many hours without experiencing the typical eye strain and user fatigue." << hm. photographer/phd physicist who switched from acd to eizo. [12:54]
assbot Eizo ColorEdge CG301W vs. The Apple 30 - Luminous Landscape ... ( http://bit.ly/1Of6hCL ) [12:54]
asciilifeform it is interesting how in just about every tech sector, there is ONE (perhaps two) vendors who make nice thing, optionally a few 'passable', and everybody else sells garbage. [12:54]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform wins [12:54]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: pick one up, see for yourself [12:55]
asciilifeform 'barco' also makes proper lcd. my brother has one. [12:55]
kakobrekla i bet even 'eizo' drift over time [12:55]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: everything drifts. that's what the colorimeter is for. [12:55]
asciilifeform though i am not an artist, and do not deal in precise gammas, and do not personally notice. [12:56]
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mircea_popescu this would be a pretty decent word problem. [12:56]
kakobrekla not an artist either but it bothers the shit out of me [12:56]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: on eizo ?! [12:56]
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kakobrekla no [12:56]
asciilifeform korean garbage naturally drifts quickly enough to use as a disco light [12:57]
kakobrekla note i do not have a bothering problem now, for my setup it is solved [12:57]
kakobrekla it bothers me in general, when i see it at others. [12:57]
mircea_popescu "given a panel of 5 identical lcds, that have been on doing WoW for the past 5.5 years, if the same numeric value is rendered as red 10% more saturated on the most versus the least, calculate the probability" [12:57]
kakobrekla U2713HM is what i run. [12:58]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276236 [12:59]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:53:36; kakobrekla: and the difference is night and day, incomparable. [12:59]
mircea_popescu Find Your Keys 11:46 am 5.7 KiB ***SPAM*** Never Lose Your Keys Ever Again [12:59]
mircea_popescu dude... [12:59]
mircea_popescu that's be one hell of a service. [13:00]
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asciilifeform kakobrekla: i presently have a ev2736w, two sx2462w, and a l885. (all but the last stand vertically.) [13:01]
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kakobrekla five identical dells here, set up in a way that bleeding pic shows [13:02]
kakobrekla approx. [13:02]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276226 << anyone else puzzled re: the total lack of mention of the author of the implant (usg) ? [13:04]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:43:06; punkman: https://zmap.io/synful/ [13:04]
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asciilifeform https://i.imgur.com/XI9wDA9.png << as in them [13:04]
mircea_popescu assbot croaked ? [13:04]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmZoIp ) [13:04]
asciilifeform http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nsa-pwn-cisco-640x373.jpg << them. [13:04]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmZoZ0 ) [13:04]
mircea_popescu o nm me. [13:04]
kakobrekla lol that face censor - famous pedo algo [13:05]
asciilifeform (summary: the rootkit was found and reversed - or alternatively, 'burned'. and no mention of its author. god himself put it there! apparently) [13:05]
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mircea_popescu heh. [13:06]
mircea_popescu "To identify implanted devices, we look for non-compliant responses where the sequence number is set to zero, the urgent flag is unset, and the urgent pointer is set to 0x0001. We do not respond with an ACK packet, and instead send a RST, closing the connection. This does not exploit the vulnerability, attempt a login, or complete the handshake. However, this does allows us to discern implanted from non-implanted route [13:06]
mircea_popescu rs, since a non-implanted router should not set the urgent pointer, and has only a [13:06]
mircea_popescu 1 in 232 chance of selecting zero as the sequence number." [13:06]
mircea_popescu this is why it was burned, ftr. [13:07]
mircea_popescu too easy to spot. [13:07]
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mircea_popescu s/232/2^32/ [13:07]
asciilifeform sop [13:07]
asciilifeform upgrade from the dumb beta version to spiffy new orifice, burn old. [13:08]
mircea_popescu myeah, what are they gonna do, include their own keys on the device end ? [13:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: a compromised key generator would've been classier [13:08]
asciilifeform or hell, leak the key in delays or other garbage [13:08]
asciilifeform !s kleptography [13:09]
assbot 3 results for 'kleptography' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kleptography [13:09]
asciilifeform a 'spontaneous malfunction' of one bit in something, anything outgoing, can be a bit of leaked key [13:10]
asciilifeform etc. [13:10]
asciilifeform Run Moar Cisco ! [13:11]
mircea_popescu and this is worth doin gbecause... [13:11]
mircea_popescu !up VariaVarietatis [13:12]
-assbot- You voiced VariaVarietatis for 30 minutes. [13:12]
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mircea_popescu what part of b-a are we analysing today, VariaVarietatis ? [13:12]
thestringpuller Cisco hardware has been diddle more than catholic school boys. [13:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you had an article, iirc, about u.s. firms voluntarily bending over by installing cisco and related gear, to avoid the rougher and less lubricated anal inspection of 'national security letter' etc. [13:13]
asciilifeform that would be the point then. [13:13]
mircea_popescu or might have been just off the cuff comment here. [13:14]
asciilifeform possibly. [13:14]
mircea_popescu but i was asking, what'd be the point for nsa to make something classier. [13:14]
mircea_popescu they're not classy, the "victims" aren't classy either. whence all this class ? [13:14]
mircea_popescu what are you, a classist ? [13:14]
asciilifeform in the craftsman. [13:14]
asciilifeform if i were in the service of hitler, that is how ~i~ would have written it. [13:15]
thestringpuller was watching beavis and butthead do america last night. fbi somehow gets involved in trying to track them down for reasons, but everyone who has encountered the teens gets cavity searched. [13:15]
asciilifeform and it cannot be said that these folks never have class. diddled disk fw is classy. [13:15]
thestringpuller "We have to cavity search them just to be sure!" [13:15]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform ftr, disk fw is still something WE SUSPECT [13:16]
mircea_popescu we've not seen that they ever actually did. [13:16]
asciilifeform ahahaha no [13:16]
asciilifeform it was revealed. [13:16]
mircea_popescu did i miss a memo ? [13:16]
asciilifeform yes. [13:16]
asciilifeform binariez even. [13:16]
mircea_popescu link or something ? [13:16]
asciilifeform reviewed on qntra [13:16]
asciilifeform one of the very few articles i wrote personally [13:17]
asciilifeform later i got hold of the actual binaries. [13:17]
asciilifeform still have'em. [13:17]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/author/asciilifeform/ << check it out [13:17]
assbot asciilifeform | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kn0u7c ) [13:17]
mircea_popescu "A recent publication by Kaspersky Lab (mirror) describes the first publicly-confirmed instance of a Microsoft Windows 'trojan' capable of infecting hard disk drive firmware. " [13:17]
mircea_popescu this is not the same thing is it ? [13:17]
asciilifeform aha, it was them. [13:17]
asciilifeform there was a flasher for 9 major vendors of hdd. [13:18]
asciilifeform (including ssd) [13:18]
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asciilifeform if someone were to pay for it, yes, i could say what the payload is. [13:18]
mircea_popescu alrighty then, i got nothing. [13:18]
mircea_popescu that's pretty classy. [13:18]
mircea_popescu pay, as in how much ? [13:19]
asciilifeform of course it would appear less classy if one thinks about how they likely got the forced cooperation of the vendors [13:19]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as in six digits usd. [13:19]
VariaVarietatis mircea_popescu: trying to make the call graph on trilema.com [13:20]
* mircea_popescu ponders whether the embarassment is worth that much. then remembers the value of "the public" is 0. obviously could use this to steal a lot of monyz, but meh. [13:20]
asciilifeform try some starving ru children first. [13:20]
asciilifeform they work for less. [13:20]
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mircea_popescu that's ok. [13:21]
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shinohai I liked this a lot http://qntra.net/2014/11/buterins-waterfall-a-likbez/ [13:21]
assbot Buterin's Waterfall, a Likbez | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kn0Pqf ) [13:21]
asciilifeform the annoying thing about disk controllers is that pretty much the whole thing is one gigantic pile of undocumented regs [13:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform once we decide to go all north korea we use that to make mega-infector steal all the bases. [13:22]
asciilifeform one would have to either steal the datasheet somewhere, or empirically (!) reverse the thing. [13:22]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: many other devices to infect, also. most heavy-lifting NICs are reflashable, have multi-core (!) cpu, etc. [13:23]
mircea_popescu ayup. [13:23]
asciilifeform the best leverage naturally is to find usg's magic tendrils already there. [13:23]
mircea_popescu if teh server bs continues, we end up hosting on USG owned computers exclusively. [13:23]
mircea_popescu not like it'd be that hard either. distributed datastore. [13:24]
asciilifeform l0l [13:24]
VariaVarietatis mircea_popescu: I got sort of an odd question asked you before but got side tracked why one wot for eulora and b-a and shouldn't a game have its own wot to allow eve online style play? [13:24]
VariaVarietatis ie stealing and such [13:24]
VariaVarietatis ;;google sean smith eve [13:24]
gribble Sean Smith (diplomat) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Amazing Life of Sean Smith, the Masterful Eve Gamer Slain in ...: ; A tribute to Sean 'Vile Rat' Smith - EVE Community: [13:24]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [13:25]
mircea_popescu lol [13:25]
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mircea_popescu aaand from the right in time ministry : the new refugees to Munich are petitioning to have Oktberfest cancled because it is offensive. [13:28]
asciilifeform l0l! [13:28]
asciilifeform berlinabad! [13:28]
asciilifeform al-paris. [13:28]
asciilifeform londonabad. [13:29]
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asciilifeform petitioning mr o, no less. >>> https://www.change.org/p/city-of-munich-ban-the-intolerant-and-anti-islamic-event-of-oktoberfest [13:30]
assbot Pétition · City of Munich: Ban the Intolerant and Anti-Islamic event of Oktoberfest · Change.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1NxljC8 ) [13:30]
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asciilifeform tr0l0l0l! [13:30]
asciilifeform protocols of the elders of syria ? [13:31]
mircea_popescu mhm. [13:31]
mircea_popescu gotta hand it to the "immigrants" : they got a lot more going for them than zee germans do at this point. [13:31]
asciilifeform what will they have going when they've eaten the last german ? [13:31]
pete_dushenski a full belly [13:33]
asciilifeform for a spell. [13:33]
asciilifeform in updated version of the old fable, perhaps, the grasshopper devours the ant. and his stash. and then wonders what next. [13:34]
pete_dushenski grasshopper refugees [13:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/3Y84AZP [13:39]
assbot dpaste: 3Y84AZP ... ( http://bit.ly/1NxmGka ) [13:39]
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deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Noahthority and ” economists” - http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/16/noahthority-and-economists/ [13:46]
mircea_popescu anyone recall offhand what "OP_RETURN 9" is ? [13:49]
gernika mod6 so I've finally rebuilt my blkindex.dat after probably corrupting it last time I shutdown bitcoind. I need to shut it down again. Is there a way to safely shutdown bitcoind? Or at a minimum, back up the blkindex.dat of a running node? [13:54]
mircea_popescu no to the latter. and to the former, make it detatch the db. [13:54]
punkman mircea_popescu: OP_RETURN just adds arbitrary bytes to the transaction [13:54]
pete_dushenski PFate phf PinkPosixPXE PsychoticBoy punkman [13:55]
mircea_popescu punkman i know, i meant about it being =9 specifically. [13:55]
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punkman I don't think it's something [13:58]
mircea_popescu hm [13:59]
punkman OP_RETURN is 9 characters though [13:59]
mircea_popescu oh damn, i'm seeing the bytecount [13:59]
mircea_popescu ty. [13:59]
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punkman https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656 [14:18]
punkman "Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House? We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It's what makes America great." [14:18]
asciilifeform achtung, panzers! [14:20]
asciilifeform zoolag now at 108.51.29.6. [14:20]
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gernika grepping the source of stator I see no references to "detach." Seems like versions prior to .6 automatically detach on shutdown (from google results). Only relevant ba discussion I can find is here: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-08-2015#1227642 [14:25]
assbot Logged on 06-08-2015 13:33:13; mircea_popescu: btw, prolly best run it with -detachdb switched on [14:25]
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thestringpuller https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/google-has-most-of-my-email-because-it-has-all-of-yours [14:41]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276154 << you REGULARLY fall asleep at the wheel ? yikes man. get thee a shorter commute, a later work start time, or yes, mega-amounts of caffeine. if you're traveling >20mph, that is. [14:44]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 09:00:07; thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: honestly, how fucking smart and alert do you have to be to drive a car ? << I have always had sleep problems. As a kid would always fall asleep on car rides. And as an adult I seem to regularly fall asleep at the wheel and still get home. But this is super dangerous. I really need to just pull over and nap for a second or red bull it up like a trucker would do... [14:44]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: it's usually the traffic you sit in it long enough and you get tired. [14:45]
mats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-05-2015#1127018 << intel publishes docs on this [14:46]
assbot Logged on 10-05-2015 17:11:59; asciilifeform: phun phact: virtually everything we publicly know re: how an intel cpu inits comes from the great ami bios source leaks [14:46]
thestringpuller ^^^ reminds me of the plot of S1 of HCF [14:46]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: i've heard stories of atl's traffic shmozzle [14:46]
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mircea_popescu !up crescendo [15:14]
-assbot- You voiced crescendo for 30 minutes. [15:14]
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mircea_popescu gernika ah ok then. so shut it down should be ok. [15:14]
mircea_popescu in other news, ""Greetings for the day! Hope you are doing great! My name is Letha Lozano and I am a Website Consultant. I found your email account online and would like to discuss some business opportunities with you"" [15:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55643 @ 0.0007526 = 41.8769 BTC [+] [15:16]
mod6 gernika: did you get it figured out then? [15:16]
gernika ran bitcoind stop - the logs indicate that it ran through the shutdown procedure, but the process itself still runs [15:17]
gernika been about 30 min. [15:17]
mod6 oh, give it a little while, it should exit once everything is flushed. [15:17]
mod6 <+gernika> ran bitcoind stop << this method that i use [15:19]
mircea_popescu i dun recall it ever taking that long, but, as the man says. give it a bit. [15:20]
mod6 i recently shutdown my fully sync'd openbsd node a week or two ago -- took quite a wait for it to finally exit. but i didn't keep close track of the time. could have easily been an hour though. [15:20]
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deedbot- [Qntra] Twitter Continues Flirtation With Politicians - http://qntra.net/2015/09/twitter-continues-flirtation-with-politicians/ [15:28]
shinohai http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/lisa-borch-teen-inspired-isis-jailed-9-years-over-mothers-n428331 [15:29]
assbot ISIS-Inspired Teen Lisa Borch Jailed Over Mom's Stabbing Death - NBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1KnhlXn ) [15:29]
mircea_popescu i really should set up a hotline for these chicks. [15:29]
mircea_popescu "are you 17 ? you got what it takes to stab your mom ? mp wants to hear from you BEFORE you manage to blow your wad on nothing worth the mention. come let's make beautiful music together." [15:30]
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gernika re: zoolag: trying connection 108.51.29.6:8333 lastseen=-372897.0hrs lasttry=-400674.8hrs | connection timeout [15:37]
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lobbes lol, dafuq is a 'Website Consultant' [15:46]
lobbes some 13 yr old kid [15:46]
punkman http://qntra.net/2015/09/twitter-continues-flirtation-with-politicians/ << lol $cashatgs [15:48]
assbot Twitter Continues Flirtation With Politicians | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Knjr9B ) [15:48]
shinohai Twitter sometimes makes me want to just go back to finger :/ [15:51]
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lobbes $deeznuts2016 [15:53]
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BingoBoingo https://bitbet.us/bet/1197/rand-paul-will-get-less-than-7-minutes/ << FUCK YEAH!!! http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/09/16/cnn_s_three_hour_main_event_the_network_s_debate_wildcard_a_third_hour_on.html [16:09]
assbot BitBet - Rand Paul will get less than 7 minutes in Sept. 16th Republican debate :: 5.04 B (94%) on Yes, 0.31 B (6%) on No | closed 1 day 19 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1KkQ9bU ) [16:09]
assbot CNN’s three-hour main event: The network’s debate wildcard? A third hour on stage ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2QX9B ) [16:09]
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punkman http://www.wired.com/2015/09/google-2-billion-lines-codeand-one-place/ [16:13]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KnlOt8 ) [16:13]
punkman "estimates that the software needed to run all of Google’s Internet services—from Google Search to Gmail to Google Maps—spans some 2 billion lines of code." [16:14]
punkman "all 2 billion lines sit in a single code repository available to all 25,000 Google engineers." << what and nobody has leaked them yet [16:15]
mircea_popescu join my petition for google to increase its google size. [16:17]
mircea_popescu if every person on earth wrote just 50 lines of code, which is a very small number of lines of code to write for the progress world etc, [16:18]
mircea_popescu then they would never fit [16:18]
mircea_popescu google needs to move now because otherwise it could stymy adoption in this early stage of the game [16:18]
mircea_popescu we must make a sub-derppit about it! [16:19]
punkman oic now "certain highly sensitive code—stuff akin to the Google’s PageRank search algorithm—resides in separate repositories only available to specific employees." [16:19]
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deedbot- [Trilema] Why should the Argentine population go graze already ? - http://trilema.com/2015/why-should-the-argentine-population-go-graze-already/ [16:33]
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shinohai Anyone alive? https://i.imgur.com/aC3J19m.jpg [16:59]
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BingoBoingo !up ascii_field [17:12]
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trinque shinohai: I ain't mad at it. [17:14]
ascii_field soooooo my isp firewalled off ~all~ incoming ports. [17:14]
ascii_field without warning. [17:14]
shinohai O.o o rly [17:14]
shinohai $whois ascii_field 's isp [17:15]
ascii_field verizon fiber [17:15]
shinohai Are they emulating at&t now ? [17:15]
ascii_field perhaps it is only my house [17:15]
ascii_field and no one else. [17:15]
ascii_field there was no official communication concerning this. [17:15]
shinohai i suppose this is why i found your node unreachable [17:16]
ascii_field shinohai: they also switched my ip (it happens 2-3x a year) [17:16]
trinque maybe you tripped some "anti-malware" thing they use to mitigate aids-spewing windows boxes [17:16]
trinque because you... actually use the service [17:16]
shinohai comcast used to do that, but i have business class nau [17:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63900 @ 0.00073499 = 46.9659 BTC [-] {2} [17:17]
ascii_field prolly gonna get upsold into 'business' [17:17]
ascii_field 2x cost. [17:17]
trinque I was amazed to find I was not allowed to have an open port 25 on comcast residential. [17:17]
ascii_field i suspect that 8333 is considered a 'funny' port [17:17]
ascii_field but i will note that they cut off EVERYTHING [17:17]
shinohai panic mode [17:18]
trinque gosspid by packet radio [17:18]
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phf i think main value of business account with us telco, they actually show you how short the leash is. instead of "unlimited everything!!1" you get an equivalent of 90s dialup, but you're free to use it at saturation levels [17:24]
shinohai I seem to be stuck on height 314526 for the moment. [17:26]
mod6 are you getting strange errors in the log? or the node your -connect'd to is just done?? [17:28]
mod6 *down [17:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00073841 = 16.3927 BTC [+] [17:28]
BingoBoingo My stator (DB patched) is finally up to July 5th fork, sped up considerably since I had it -connect to local sync'd node (moved to this arrangement to open 8333) [17:28]
mircea_popescu trinque> I was amazed to find I was not allowed to have an open port 25 on comcast residential. <<< i'm amazed at the notion of a "not allowed" port in general. [17:29]
ascii_field 25 was a desperate spamcontrol measure in the late '90s [17:29]
trinque mircea_popescu: I briefly began explaining what a port is, then gave up. [17:30]
shinohai and just like that it starts back up [17:30]
mod6 nice [17:30]
trinque mircea_popescu: also http://deedbot.org/genbootstrap.sh and http://deedbot.org/genbootstrap.sh.sig << the configuration in the script currently dumps out a root.img which can be loaded into qemu [17:31]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KoesG8 ) [17:31]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KoesG4 ) [17:31]
trinque I can modify it for you if you'd like it to write to a block device; it requires changing a variable at the top and altering the lilo config [17:32]
trinque it may also be pointed at a stage3 which is no longer available. They delete the old ones rather rapidly. [17:32]
mircea_popescu aha [17:33]
trinque in fact, let me run this sometime today, then I'll provide another link. [17:33]
shinohai I almost got that whittled down to a science with genkernel nau trinque [17:34]
trinque nice. [17:34]
ascii_field Rajesh(16:33:29): I found that your issue requires advance expertise to resolve. Unfortunately my expertise is limited to basic settings. However, we have a team called expert care and they will be able to help you resolve this issue. Please call them on 1-877-718-6716 and they work 24/7 , please note this a paid service. [17:35]
ascii_field (1-877-718-6716) [17:35]
ascii_field ^ gold. [17:35]
ascii_field ^ verizon co. [17:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117100 @ 0.00074798 = 87.5885 BTC [+] {3} [17:35]
trinque shinohai: once you've booted, you can use "localyesconfig" to build the currently loaded modules set to "yes" [17:35]
trinque ^ one of the makefile targets of the kernel [17:36]
trinque ascii_field: paid!!! [17:36]
mod6 <+ascii_field> ^ gold. << hahah [17:36]
BingoBoingo ^ verizon co. << Municipal fiber means knowing whose doorstep you could elect to take a shit on [17:37]
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ascii_field BingoBoingo: nothing municipal about this one. [17:37]
ascii_field telco monopoly. [17:37]
ascii_field Rajesh(16:36:08): No, Mr. Datskovskiy, Verizon never block the incoming connections. [17:37]
trinque they closed your ports then expect you to pay to open them? [17:37]
ascii_field not even. [17:37]
ascii_field they claim 'nothing happened' [17:37]
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BingoBoingo ascii_field: Sure, but if your provider would have been municipal instead of VerizATTLink [17:38]
ascii_field BingoBoingo: if your grandmother had balls (tm) [17:38]
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BingoBoingo ascii_field: Common in Middle West and Mid South now for consumer Fiber provision to be the exclusive domain of municipal electric coop [17:39]
ascii_field BingoBoingo: this doesn't do me a lick of good. [17:39]
ascii_field over here, it's either these devils or $1000/mo [17:40]
BingoBoingo Well, not if you want to nest outside of Lizard central feeding grounds [17:40]
ascii_field BingoBoingo: i am a serf and can go nowhere. [17:40]
BingoBoingo Serfdom in Ruralburbia has its perks over Capitalserfdom [17:41]
ascii_field BingoBoingo: nobody asked serf where he'd like to serf [17:41]
ascii_field that's the whole idea [17:41]
ascii_field of being a serf. [17:41]
shinohai trinque: did not know that abt localyesconfig thx [17:41]
mircea_popescu ascii_field keks, thgey want you to pay them to fix their network for them ? [17:42]
BingoBoingo Of course. Though sometimes serfs who run away are lucky to get captured into better serfdom instead of returned [17:42]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: no, they want me to pay to get hot air from some indian dude [17:42]
ascii_field nobody's gonna fix shit. [17:42]
ascii_field because OFFICIALLY nothing broke. [17:42]
* mircea_popescu braces for that sweet sweet time when alf's power goes out weekly and he STILL sticks around. [17:42]
ascii_field where am i supposed to go? [17:42]
ascii_field on $0 [17:42]
mircea_popescu first you plan then you budget, not the other way around! [17:43]
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mircea_popescu et tu, assbote! [17:43]
mircea_popescu !up ascii_field [17:43]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [17:43]
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ascii_field ty mircea_popescu [17:44]
lobbes try going above indian's head? [17:44]
ascii_field lobbes: tried. [17:44]
mircea_popescu so they closed what, 8333 ? [17:45]
ascii_field ALL OF THEM [17:45]
mircea_popescu so how are oyu here ?! [17:45]
ascii_field i'm at $plant [17:45]
mircea_popescu ah [17:45]
ascii_field but outgoing works [17:45]
ascii_field from my house. [17:45]
ascii_field only incoming does not. [17:45]
ascii_field and Officially there is no reason for it. [17:45]
shinohai Officially they filter ports and tell no one. [17:46]
ascii_field no quotas either [17:46]
mircea_popescu aha. [17:46]
ascii_field if they are trying to upsell me, doing a pretty poor job [17:46]
phf ascii_field: what does netcat with tcpdump say? do packets just get blackholed? [17:46]
mircea_popescu i thought they got a monopoly. how else would you do it ? [17:46]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: poor job in the sense that no promise of normal service for more $$ [17:47]
ascii_field phf: aha [17:47]
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mircea_popescu of course not ? [17:47]
ascii_field phf: black hole. [17:47]
mircea_popescu they gave you the place to spend $$$. [17:47]
mircea_popescu why'd they promise anything ? [17:47]
ascii_field no implication, even, of normal service for more $ [17:47]
ascii_field 'nothing is broken' [17:47]
mircea_popescu call the strippers and stfu. [17:47]
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ascii_field by 'strippers' mircea_popescu meant, the t1 installers ? [17:48]
shinohai Does Verizon tether you to their routers/equipment ? [17:48]
mircea_popescu well the 1-877-718-6716 working 24/7 guise. [17:48]
mircea_popescu business means "here's what we do and here's how to pay". [17:48]
ascii_field shinohai: the only equipment of theirs i have is the optical terminal [17:49]
mircea_popescu monopoly however, is just "here's where to pay" [17:49]
ascii_field shinohai: i do not use their idiot modem or router [17:49]
mircea_popescu simpler bidnis. [17:49]
shinohai I still pay an extra $8 for cable modem rental fee, even tho I don't use it. [17:50]
shinohai Comcast has the evil all-in-ones that use your modem as a AP [17:50]
mircea_popescu move to romania. easily best internet service in all of the western world. [17:50]
ascii_field shinohai: comcast exists here, i am not even considering it as an option [17:50]
shinohai It is my on;y choice sadly in this area. [17:51]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: i would happily move to antarctica if i knew of some way to get food and net access there. [17:51]
shinohai total monopoly [17:51]
jurov mircea_popescu: try suggesting moving to shenzhen. 99% guaranteed to push alf's buttons [17:51]
ascii_field i'd even move to shenzhen [17:51]
ascii_field or shanghai [17:51]
mircea_popescu jurov im wating for him to run out of "if" riders. [17:51]
ascii_field pyongyang. [17:51]
mircea_popescu so go. dja want me to order you a plane ticket ? [17:51]
ascii_field i can afford plane ticket. [17:52]
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mircea_popescu so then. [17:52]
ascii_field just not the nth month of rent. [17:52]
mircea_popescu forget the nth month. [17:52]
mircea_popescu julius caesar lived his entire life paycheck to paycheck. [17:52]
ascii_field mno. [17:52]
mircea_popescu myes. [17:52]
ascii_field i have no intention of voluntarily curtailing my research and defaulting on my wot obligations. they will have to come and put that bullet in my head. [17:53]
mircea_popescu i guess researching net providers counts as research. [17:54]
ascii_field my hovel came with not one but two sat dishes, one of them being a 2-way, believe or not. (russian fella used to live here) [17:55]
ascii_field perhaps i will have it activated. [17:55]
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mircea_popescu o hey, apparently they figured out outgoing worked by reading teh logs :D [17:55]
ascii_field but nobody's running a useful node out of that. [17:55]
ascii_field l0l [17:56]
ascii_field all the support slave could do was cycle my pole box [17:56]
mircea_popescu go break into their trunk box, cut the connection to home, install your own firmware ? [17:56]
ascii_field why not headquarters ? [17:57]
mircea_popescu then again i suppose that's domestic terrorism, hm. [17:57]
ascii_field aha, know the english proverb, [17:57]
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mircea_popescu "he struck the fear of god into the local telco monopoly, your honor" "oh shit. 20 life sentences!11" [17:57]
ascii_field 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb' [17:57]
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phf they got capone on tax evasion [17:58]
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mircea_popescu phf capone was a dollop tho. stalin didn't get tito, tax evasion or no tax evasion. [17:59]
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mircea_popescu capone was derpy enough to not shoot the fbi head. which is why you hear about him. [18:00]
mircea_popescu the mexicans that weren't derpy, you don't hear about. [18:00]
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shinohai What it looks like outside my hovel in winter: https://transfer.sh/XXuyp/dscf0067.jpg [18:00]
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shinohai ^ comcast takes a week to come out when mine is down xD [18:00]
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shinohai More ether keks: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3l6b6b/fuck_i_just_send_all_my_ether_to_a_new_contract/ [18:05]
assbot Fuck! I just send all my ether to a new contract instead of to my brain wallet. Is there any way to reclaim it? : ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh49av ) [18:05]
ascii_field 'Also, we have the Verizon In-Home Agent for Windows PC's that you can download at http://www.verizon.com/connect. Thank you for choosing Verizon and have a great day. ' [18:08]
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trinque shinohai: "Only vbuterin himself can help me..." << bwahahaha [18:08]
trinque these people live to deliver action movie lines [18:08]
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shinohai my sides [18:10]
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ag3nt_zer0 whats up y;all [18:15]
shinohai sup ag3nt_zer0 que tal de bueno ? [18:15]
ag3nt_zer0 ragin' about the behaviorist animal psychology takeover of educational system here [18:16]
ag3nt_zer0 had meeting with principal today [18:16]
ag3nt_zer0 haha [18:16]
ag3nt_zer0 he is very excited, almost giddy, about his assertion that the purpose of education is to raise "citizens" [18:17]
ag3nt_zer0 shuld of seen the joy.... [18:17]
phf i don't know anything about mafioso in america beyond disnified, "you gonna like this guy, he's all right, he's a good fella", so i would believe about capone. but then he was a brooklyn hood rad, where's tito was a man [18:17]
ag3nt_zer0 totally hopeless [18:17]
mats http://mosaicscience.com/story/brazils-cancer-curse [18:17]
assbot Brazil’s cancer curse | Mosaic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh5zSi ) [18:17]
mircea_popescu phf capone was from chicago. [18:18]
mircea_popescu fat, histrionic type. [18:18]
shinohai Sam Gianacana, now *that's* an OG [18:19]
mircea_popescu i would propose this is an exceptionally apt comparison, incidentally. the relative economic might of chicago of the 30s as part of the us of the 30s is about where the economic might of the yugoslavia of the 50s as part of the eu+ru of the 50s stands ; the stalin-hoover equality is not particularly inept, on many scores (and the ones where it isn't, it advantages stalin) [18:20]
ag3nt_zer0 the new stealth, and quite cheery, totalitarianism is in full flower and Goebells would be astonished that it is happening with centralized dictates but instead in full pom pom ra ra volunteerism [18:20]
ag3nt_zer0 *not with centralized [18:21]
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mircea_popescu it wasn't any fuckiung different in 1941. [18:22]
ag3nt_zer0 have slaves always been this proud? [18:22]
mircea_popescu always pretended, anyway. [18:22]
mircea_popescu what do you suppose prevents man from cleaning out the trash from his car ? [18:23]
mircea_popescu the notion that "the situation is livable" and "he'll figure it out" and you know, the previous inhavitant was russian so there's satellite dishes. [18:23]
ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: hmmm, perhaps not, but I would argue the the new post psychedelic controls are much more insidious [18:24]
ag3nt_zer0 and invisible [18:24]
mircea_popescu eh, they're always much more insidious for being the ones you saw. [18:24]
mircea_popescu the bullshit is unchanged for 5000 years, first hand observers report it is "exceptionally so and so". and all guns ever used in robberies are BIG [18:25]
mircea_popescu according to witnesses. [18:25]
mircea_popescu not that fucking many big guns available. all fucking guns are their standard size, being as they are industrial products. [18:25]
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ascii_field ty phf [18:28]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: the gun that is pointed in one's face is always surprisingly big. [18:28]
ascii_field bigger yet when it goes off. [18:28]
ascii_field and comparing the equivalent of shooting yourself in the head to cleaning a car is disingenuous, at least. [18:29]
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phf what i was trying to say re capone vs tito, is that capone was a hood rat, with the operational scope of village vs village, for him fbi involvement was perhaps the leviathan. where's tito was successful tactician and strategist in war and later a national leader. i suspect that allowed him to operate on the sufficiently high level to resist governmental intervention on equal terms [18:30]
lobbes the man with trash in his car doesn't stop to consider if his condition is 'livable' or not [18:31]
ag3nt_zer0 well, then this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCEeAn6_QJo [18:31]
assbot Tool - Ænema [uncut version - hq - fullscreen] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh6GkU ) [18:31]
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ascii_field if removing trash from car without also removing your own liver cost $200,000, not many people would have clean car. [18:32]
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thestringpuller ag3nt_zer0: Reminds me of the lateralus video [18:32]
shinohai diggin that tool ag3nt_zer0 [18:33]
ascii_field comparing the options available to capone or even tito, to the meagre existence of random schmuck, is also disingenuous. [18:33]
thestringpuller Third Eye is still my favorite song off that album tho. [18:33]
thestringpuller Either that or H. [18:33]
ag3nt_zer0 shinohai: goes alright I am able to work so that's good... but counting the days until next summer to go on 2 year fuck all backpacking trip into the unknown [18:33]
ag3nt_zer0 maxed out [18:33]
thestringpuller I think Lateralus is a more philosophically compelling album, but Aenema is better received. [18:34]
ag3nt_zer0 thestringpuller: yeah I believe they use the same artists for lots of stuff... for instance alex grey for their album artwork and others for the stop motion videos [18:34]
thestringpuller Adam Jones the guitarist used to work as an animator for stuff like Jurassic Park ( he actually has a credit in Jurassic Park since he worked on that prod before quitting to do Tool full time ) [18:35]
ag3nt_zer0 yeah I prefer lateralus as well but there are some great extended areas of aenima [18:35]
ag3nt_zer0 they are apparantly getting close to release of a new one [18:36]
thestringpuller ag3nt_zer0: yea you get a better feel for aenema's records if you listen to the live album. forget what ti's called Salivial? [18:36]
shinohai I wish I still knew someone good at remixing. I like some songs but they are overproduced. [18:36]
ag3nt_zer0 yeah [18:36]
ag3nt_zer0 salival i think [18:36]
thestringpuller cause salivial has that "remix" of pushit which uses those mandela pads you hear a lot in lateralus [18:36]
deedbot- [Qntra] War on Engineering: Teen Arrested for Building Clock - http://qntra.net/2015/09/war-on-engineering-teen-arrested-for-building-clock/ [18:37]
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thestringpuller 10,000 days didn't hit me the sameway. [18:38]
thestringpuller it's an extremely profound from a technical stand point, but it's not as philosophically compelling [18:39]
thestringpuller cool to see more tool fans [18:39]
thestringpuller one of the two bands I've seen in my life that made me straight up weep. [18:39]
thestringpuller like a bitch [18:39]
phf ascii_field: the way i see mp's point is that tito, capone and random schmuck all have same options. random schmuck is that way for never acting on those options. capone is a schmuck for only sometimes not acting on his options. etc. [18:40]
ag3nt_zer0 for today's speculative waste: I think it would be great if this room had an educational manifest in the meatspace... sort of like an intellectual spartan boot camp [18:41]
lobbes http://qntra.net/2015/09/war-on-engineering-teen-arrested-for-building-clock/ << this reminded me of this old story from 2007 http://radiotvtalk.blog.ajc.com/2015/02/03/2007-flashback-adult-swims-aqua-teen-bomb-scare-in-boston/ [18:42]
assbot War on Engineering: Teen Arrested for Building Clock | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh7xSF ) [18:42]
assbot 2007 flashback: Adult Swim’s ‘Aqua Teen’ bomb scare in Boston | Radio and TV Talk ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh7y9a ) [18:42]
trinque ag3nt_zer0: do it; assemble the #b-a bookshelf [18:42]
shinohai was listening to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoheCz4t2xc [18:42]
assbot System Of A Down - Hypnotize - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh7BSG ) [18:42]
jurov ag3nt_zer0: was already discussed and mp put some proposal, but can't remember the keywords [18:42]
jurov http://trilema.com/2015/basic-bitcoin-competency-certification/ found! [18:43]
assbot Basic Bitcoin Competency Certification on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hDscGp ) [18:43]
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ag3nt_zer0 trinque: haha would The Real Astrology by John Frawley be allowed? or writings by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI) [18:44]
trinque I take it back. [18:44]
shinohai Wasn't that mircea_popescu 's response to princeton's scam course? [18:44]
trinque :D [18:44]
ag3nt_zer0 haha [18:44]
ag3nt_zer0 hey dont judge a book by its cover [18:45]
thestringpuller shinohai: no it was to buterin's friends' C4 certification [18:45]
shinohai ah ok [18:45]
ag3nt_zer0 trinque: btw... you make time for that 134 page gem yet [18:45]
ag3nt_zer0 I am lusting to hear your dismissals [18:46]
thestringpuller shinohai: http://qntra.net/2015/02/new-security-standard-announced-at-devcore/ << reported on qntra [18:46]
trinque nah haven't read that yet; got buried under that book on CLOS and assorted meatspace work [18:46]
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shinohai "Why would he contribute to your thing ? This nonsense is roughly equivalent to child playing with toy truck, telling some truckers "hey, if you see a problem with my toy truck, why don't you come and fix it!". [18:48]
shinohai ty thestringpuller had not read [18:48]
jurov "The backup must be protected against environmental risks such as fire, flood, and other acts of God." [18:50]
thestringpuller i didn't put that Buterin's crew is who runs C4. Seems like a scam for a piece of paper worth less than today's MIT degree. [18:50]
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thestringpuller They only accept bitcoin, and I'm certain it goes straight into the waterfall. [18:51]
jurov danielpbarron might have a say about protection of backups from God's wrath? [18:51]
kakobrekla god will destroy your backups to test your faith [18:52]
ag3nt_zer0 btw if anyone can prove the "assertions" in that book (crisis of the modern world - rene guenon) false, useless, or shitty in another way... I would love it because I read it as truth... [18:52]
shinohai lol wut kakobrekla [18:52]
kakobrekla is how it works dont ya know [18:52]
ag3nt_zer0 and if there is another plzce that is as primed as this room to offer valuable critique I know not where it is to be found [18:52]
kakobrekla thats why all the bad stuff happens. [18:52]
shinohai ./dev/urandom/ is why bad stuff happens [18:53]
jurov "Digital signatures must use a ‘k’ value that is never repeated. This can be accomplished through the use of a deterministic random bit generator (DRBG) that is compliant with NIST SP 800-90A, or a deterministic scheme compatible with RFC 6979." [18:53]
shinohai like blockchain top kek [18:54]
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jurov "In cases where keys or seeds are created without the use of software (e.g. dice, a deck of cards, or other non-digital source of entropy), the creation methodology should be validated to ensure determinism is not present (i.e. there are no weighted dice, each card in the deck is unique, etc.)." [18:56]
shinohai danielpbarron: y no np ? [18:56]
thestringpuller jurov: it's lunacy mixed with buzzwords. [18:57]
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jurov anyone knows how to check for nondeterministic dice? :D [18:59]
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shinohai http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/13668576/iran-captain-miss-asian-cup-husband-took-passport?ex_cid=sportscenterFB&sf13113921=1 [19:02]
assbot Iran captain to miss Asian Cup as husband took passport ... ( http://bit.ly/1P01dPM ) [19:02]
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ag3nt_zer0 hang in there till the 5 minute mark and holy cow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz7w_Ut12fY [19:10]
assbot Nine Inch Nails - All Time Low (VEVO Presents) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhbiYq ) [19:11]
punkman jurov: anyone knows how to check for nondeterministic dice? :D << seems like noone has figured it out yet http://trilema.com/2014/so-heres-a-problem-for-you/ [19:15]
assbot So here's a problem for you... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhbRBn ) [19:15]
ag3nt_zer0 I wholeheartily recommend the entire production, but if strapped for time, to me the other outstanding example of this tech is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3sp6Hwp3nk [19:15]
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-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for another 30 minutes. [19:16]
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mircea_popescu and comparing the equivalent of shooting yourself in the head to cleaning a car is disingenuous, at least. << it is. meanwhile it't can't possibly be ingenious, because what goes on in man's mind is incomprehensible. be it bullet or whatever else. [19:18]
punkman oh here's one http://pit-claudel.fr/clement/blog/generating-uniformly-random-data-from-skewed-input-biased-coins-loaded-dice-skew-correction-and-the-von-neumann-extractor/ [19:18]
assbot Generating uniformly random data from skewed input: biased coins, loaded dice, skew correction, and the Von Neumann extractor | Code crumbs, by Clément Pit–Claudel ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fhc87v ) [19:18]
mircea_popescu phf tito was, like stalin was, originally, a hood rat. [19:18]
mircea_popescu everyone's born a shit eating, shit for brains, worm. [19:18]
mircea_popescu because that's what always crawls out of woman : a barely aggregated pile of shit. [19:18]
mircea_popescu but anyway, got a meeting now, will be back later we can drink this issue under the table. [19:19]
kakobrekla !s C201 [19:19]
assbot 0 results for 'C201' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=C201 [19:19]
phf ag3nt_zer0: i couldn't get past his west vs. east chapter, or slightly after. his understanding of eastern tradition is dodgy (i see same issue with evola by the way), since he exists in the time after theosophists's liberal translations of sacred texts, but before people like mircea eliade or theos bernard had a chance to verify with the locals whether or the understanding was correct. (and long before easterners themselves started making [19:21]
phf scholarly rather then popular translations). [19:21]
shinohai http://www.kristovatlas.com/bitcoin-visions-and-conflicts-of-interest/ [19:25]
assbot Bitcoin Visions and Conflicts of Interest ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhcyuH ) [19:25]
punkman and some more on debiasing dice http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:M_P9vZTEa3kJ:www.emc.com/emc-plus/rsa-labs/ps/dicebits.ps+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us [19:26]
assbot How to Turn Loaded Dice into Fair Coins ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhcA5L ) [19:26]
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ag3nt_zer0 phf: interesting. becauseas I understand it guenon used to travel in the theosophist circles in france until he rejected them in favor of a more rigorous "traditionalism" - he even wrote a book about it - Theosophy: history of a pseudo religion - I think it was called... so i guess it could be asserted that he was still "unconsciously" operating under some of their errors but 1) it seems odd to think that a person with an [19:31]
ag3nt_zer0 own unconsciousness… no? [19:31]
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ag3nt_zer0 and 2) what would be the correct understanding that contradicts his greater metaphysical points about ultimate reality and what constitutes an authentic revealed tradition or not... what do you mean by the locals? and would not Ananda Coomaraswamy, geunons contemporary and equal in many ways but with a mind turned toward the art of the east and west be a counter to that? [19:33]
ag3nt_zer0 phf: thanks for checking out out btw [19:34]
ag3nt_zer0 it out jeez [19:34]
phf ag3nt_zer0: theosophy does completely fanciful free interpretation based on amateur translations by various aristocrats gone native. any sane person will look at it and go "wtf" upon closer inspection, but you're still left with amateur translations. not to mention that you need representatives of traditions to interpret those esoteric texts (what i mean by locals) [19:45]
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phf guenon's revelations are entirely his own, inspired perhaps by close reading of some of the available eastern sacred texts [19:48]
trinque closest I ever came to reading any "theosophy" was Jiddu Krishnamurti [19:49]
trinque and looking back I couldn't tell you wtf he was trying to say [19:49]
trinque something vaguely approaching the limitations around what can and cannot be said about being [19:49]
trinque and one's probably much better off reading Wittgenstein or Heidegger [19:50]
ag3nt_zer0 yeah krishnamurti is worthless [19:50]
ag3nt_zer0 let me be clear. as is probably all theosophy... [19:50]
trinque hipster antimessiah [19:50]
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phf theosophy did one good thing, their "members" would do early translations of various sacred texts, and they would make those translations available through their lodges [19:52]
phf the translations are universally bad, but gave westerners first glimpses of "eastern thought" [19:52]
ag3nt_zer0 trinque: yes. one is better off reading wittgestein or heidegger over the theosophical trash... but imo guenon, schuon, coomaraswami (ananda) and evola are infinitely better to read than those philosophers you mentioned - and they are not at all aligned with theosophy - except for guenons youthful foray into it as mentioned [19:55]
phf as far as ultimate knowledge, different schools have contradictory answers to some of those fundamental questions (say samkhya vs advaita vedanta's take on self vs absolute) [20:04]
phf the assumption that there's any kind of unity to eastern sacred thought is by the way theosophical in nature, where's you have a bajilion of lineages all with their own takes on what's true [20:06]
shinohai https://i.imgur.com/2ymj2wJ.png <<< allah snackbar! [20:08]
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deedbot- [Qntra] Pascal Reid Pleads Guilty: Promises to Service USG Law Enforcement - http://qntra.net/2015/09/pascal-reid-pleads-guilty-promises-to-service-usg-law-enforcement/ [20:14]
phf another point i'll make before checking in for the night, is that eastern mystical tradition is experiential, a lot of ideas of the nature of ultimate reality and such are not even worth contemplating until you go through whatever the lineage prescribes, meditation, purification practices, breathing exercises, physical exercises, that are supposed to bring you towards understanding of ultimate reality. talking about it or presenting second [20:17]
phf hand revelations as some sort of ultimate truth completely contradicts the original intent. [20:17]
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BingoBoingo That was astoundingly fast https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3l8gi2/pascal_reid_pleads_guilty_promising_to_service/ [20:21]
assbot Pascal Reid Pleads Guilty Promising to Service USG "Law Enforcement" – Full Draft Plea Text : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fhjec2 ) [20:21]
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ag3nt_zer0 phf: are you just referring to that east vs. west chapter? I ask because though he explores eastern esoterism he was actually a practicing sufi [20:30]
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BingoBoingo https://slashdot.org/submission/4945145/bitcoin-trader-agrees-to-work-for-police-in-plea-agreement [20:38]
assbot Bitcoin Trader Agrees to Work For Police In Plea Agreement - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhkTyi ) [20:38]
ag3nt_zer0 no offense but I actually think one would have to explore him a bit more than less than a chapter to really offer up a viable criticism... but maybe that's just because I don't know what you have read and so do not know by what criteria you judge something as true or not true (some people hear voices, others echoes of dead philosophers)... at any rate thanks for taking the time to look and for sharing your thoughts at all [20:39]
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shinohai !s https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1179964.0 [20:50]
assbot Thanks to people who support 1-2 MB blocks - great idea u fools... ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhmBzU ) [20:50]
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BingoBoingo How goes the alfernet? [21:26]
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asciilifeform same as before. [21:28]
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asciilifeform veeeeeery interesting outage. [21:39]
asciilifeform over, for the time being. zoolag @ 173.73.235.152:8333. [21:39]
asciilifeform until next time. [21:39]
BingoBoingo 'Murican problems: "The easiest way to handle an obese funeral is to refer the family to your competitor, but that rarely works, especially if you picked up the body strapped to two hospital mattresses, (oh – the pain!)" http://www.oversizecasket.com/funeralprofessional.html [21:45]
BingoBoingo re: circus folk [21:47]
* mircea_popescu feels compelled to point out re phf's worthy evaluation of topic that a significant part of eliade's said evaluation was drilling a local dude's daughter. [21:47]
mircea_popescu (i also do not hold the view that indians EVER made scholarly anything. nor do i believe people like bharara or the raj schmuck recently mentioned are part of the western tradition, in spite of doing a passible job of masquerading it. the DA's office with bharara in it simple ceased to be much akin to the US DA and more like a fetid indian "institution", just like state with rice was more like state hence than like sta [21:49]
mircea_popescu te ever was before. ie, incompetent, superficial, a sort of "cosmo does state dept".) [21:49]
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mircea_popescu the translations are universally bad, but gave westerners first glimpses of "eastern thought" << and by westerners we mean, of course, americans. [21:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00076433 = 16.7388 BTC [+] {3} [21:59]
mircea_popescu talking about it or presenting second hand revelations as some sort of ultimate truth completely contradicts the original intent. <<< it is altogether dubious any original intent even exists, or that "intent" as a category is at all adequate to discuss the matter. perhaps a decent approach towards what "existential" sanely means in the context is provided by the "causes not purposes" dichotomy. there is no inten [22:02]
mircea_popescu t, as such, nor any "progress" in the sense of "levelling up to krishna" and supersizing your karma serving. [22:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00076592 = 26.7306 BTC [+] [22:04]
mircea_popescu "satisfied that he understands all the conditions and obligations contained herein, that he is entering into this agreement freely and voluntarily with full knowledge of its contents, that no additional promises have been made regarding his sentence, or potential sentences, and further, that he has read this entire agreement." [22:04]
mircea_popescu satisfied that the car is in working condition and also that it has an engine at all! [22:05]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol it got fixed ?! [22:06]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: apparently! [22:19]
asciilifeform or phixed. [22:19]
mircea_popescu "the other residents of the drab soviet prefab block of flats always envied ivan ivanovich, for this inept pretense of normalcy that he found himself on the receiving end of, even if in all fairness it was not really his fault." [22:21]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277112 <<<<< http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2014#883003 [22:23]
assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 00:43:00; BingoBoingo: 'Murican problems: "The easiest way to handle an obese funeral is to refer the family to your competitor, but that rarely works, especially if you picked up the body strapped to two hospital mattresses, (oh – the pain!)" http://www.oversizecasket.com/funeralprofessional.html [22:23]
assbot Logged on 19-10-2014 03:19:21; asciilifeform: main danger, as i understand, is that their combustion will: create a visible plume of smoke. or, the ultimate catastrophe, 'auschwitzy' smell. [22:23]
asciilifeform (this is ~the~ subject in the technical literature concerning cremation, in usa.) [22:24]
asciilifeform i shit thee not [22:24]
mircea_popescu it would be, neh ? [22:24]
mircea_popescu "a unique celebration of life with honor and dignity. " [22:24]
mircea_popescu for fucks sake. funerals should not be fucking celebrations of life. what the fuck do they do at weddings, mourn over the dead ? [22:25]
asciilifeform funeral is the only remaining major party among some of these people. [22:25]
mircea_popescu so annyoing, these children of mae pollitt. [22:25]
asciilifeform (they don't marry, they don't x, or y, or z, but everybody dies) [22:25]
mircea_popescu good people come from eve and bad people spawned off lillith, but americans all crawled out from between the thighs of one mae pollitt! [22:26]
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mircea_popescu check me out, i'm poetic! [22:26]
asciilifeform !s mae pollitt [22:26]
assbot 0 results for 'mae pollitt' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mae+pollitt [22:26]
asciilifeform hm. [22:26]
mircea_popescu wife of "big daddy wanted me to become a lawyer, I became a lawyer. he said get married, I got married. he said have kids and i had kids and now he can't stand them. so he never loved me. fine! but I appeal to your common decency! gimme some money!" [22:27]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1277080 << what is this [22:27]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 23:06:12; shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/2ymj2wJ.png <<< allah snackbar! [22:27]
deedbot- [Qntra] BitPay Claims Hack Amounting to 5000 Bitcoins - http://qntra.net/2015/09/bitpay-claims-hack-amounting-to-5000-bitcoins/ [22:27]
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mircea_popescu holy shit. AGAIN !? [22:28]
asciilifeform l0l!! [22:28]
asciilifeform 'Bitpay tried to get its insurer to cover $950,000 of the loss, but in June the insurer declined to pay. Bitpay is now suing the insurer.' << gold [22:29]
asciilifeform now insurance fraud as well. [22:29]
mircea_popescu this is not fraud, it's a commercial dispute. [22:30]
BingoBoingo https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2015/09/16/cnn-captures-glorious-split-screen-moment-between-donald-trump-and-rand-paul/ [22:30]
assbot CNN captures glorious split-screen moment between Donald Trump and Rand Paul - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1iio1zt ) [22:30]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ianal, but if they 'lost' the money and ~planned~ to milk the insurer, it is fraud [22:31]
asciilifeform "He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’” [22:32]
mircea_popescu well obviously misrepresentation in commercial matter is the substance of fraud, but so far, not there [22:32]
asciilifeform reminds me of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-08-2015#1253912 [22:32]
assbot Logged on 28-08-2015 01:24:38; mircea_popescu: the people in life are people from movies, [22:32]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277148 < a clock it seems > http://qntra.net/2015/09/war-on-engineering-teen-arrested-for-building-clock/ [22:32]
assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 01:25:19; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1277080 << what is this [22:32]
asciilifeform re: the 'clock bomb' [22:32]
assbot War on Engineering: Teen Arrested for Building Clock | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh7xSF ) [22:32]
asciilifeform it is in the völkischer beobachter now [22:33]
asciilifeform https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2015/09/16/a-clock-is-not-a-bomb-ahmeds-arrest-and-why-we-cant-have-nice-things [22:33]
assbot A clock is not a bomb. Ahmed’s arrest and why we can’t have nice things. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Krb3dB ) [22:33]
kakobrekla “They were like, ‘So you tried to make a bomb?’” Ahmed said. [22:34]
kakobrekla “I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.” [22:34]
kakobrekla “He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’” [22:34]
kakobrekla ahahaha [22:34]
kakobrekla if it looks like a move bomb it must be real! [22:34]
BingoBoingo !b 5 [22:35]
assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2EV0PNE.txt ) [22:35]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/022HWH4 [22:36]
assbot dpaste: 022HWH4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KrbjJQ ) [22:36]
mircea_popescu buncha fucken idiots. [22:37]
mircea_popescu pity kids don't talk back more, you know ? "and you look like a movie idiot to me. where's that leave us." [22:37]
mircea_popescu then they wonder why no girls throwing panties. well... this would be it eh. [22:37]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1J3AHVW [22:41]
assbot dpaste: 1J3AHVW ... ( http://bit.ly/1iioT77 ) [22:41]
mircea_popescu aok then. [22:41]
BingoBoingo I am ingnoratish in some matters. Also drinking anxiety vodka hoping my horse Rand can get the seven minutes. [22:42]
mircea_popescu is that tonite ? [22:42]
asciilifeform https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPCYHKzVAAAJG6w.jpg:large << close-up photograph. if i could bet on this, i would bet a few coin that he ~busted open an ordinary alarm clock~ to make this [22:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1iip02I ) [22:43]
asciilifeform as in, not even soldered anything. [22:43]
asciilifeform MIT-worthy!! [22:43]
asciilifeform notice the object in the lower half of the attache. it is a mains transformer. plug still attached. [22:44]
BingoBoingo is that tonite ? Yeah but I dun have cable, refuse adobeFlasherast, and can't torrent a livestream so must wait. [22:44]
mircea_popescu "It is not uncommon for the family to buy two or even three grave plots for burial." [22:44]
mircea_popescu ahahahaha [22:44]
asciilifeform in the left side of the hinge, there is a 9v battery connector, hanging loose. [22:44]
asciilifeform he broke apart a perfectly good clock. [22:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform there's nothing wrong with kid breaking up the shit in the house to make a shitty lesser something [22:45]
mircea_popescu up until the age of about 13 or so anyway [22:45]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not per se. but this is being pushed as 'scholar' [22:45]
asciilifeform 'engineering' [22:45]
mircea_popescu well the usians are retarded. [22:45]
asciilifeform mr o: 'hey kid, nice clock, bring it to white house!' [22:45]
asciilifeform i shit thee not, official communique [22:45]
mircea_popescu 13 yo performance, in the united states of america and the republic of congo, counts as scholarly engineering. [22:45]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: is this observation qntra-worthy? [22:46]
asciilifeform eh, why even bother. [22:47]
mircea_popescu can always make a comment [22:48]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: is this observation qntra-worthy? << If you want to write it up or just drop it as a comment I have no reason to deny you that. [22:48]
mircea_popescu Kampfblatt der nationalsozialistischen Bewegung Großdeutschlands!!! [22:49]
mircea_popescu kampf BLATT! fucking perfect. [22:50]
asciilifeform ahahahahaha [22:50]
mircea_popescu blat, in romanian, is the bread of a cake. [22:50]
asciilifeform in ru something quite else [22:50]
mircea_popescu so, "the warlike dough" so to speak [22:50]
asciilifeform does not actually translate to english [22:50]
mircea_popescu aha :) [22:50]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: posted. [22:54]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Approved [22:55]
asciilifeform this does not cancel the idiocy of the whole thing, imho only enhances it [22:56]
BingoBoingo Seriously [22:56]
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mircea_popescu https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Bundesarchiv_Bild_133-075%2C_Worms%2C_Antisemitische_Presse%2C_%22Stürmerkasten%22.jpg << how the fuck can these people read newspaper print from two feet away. [22:58]
assbot 501 Not Implemented ... ( http://bit.ly/1iiql9z ) [22:58]
mircea_popescu fucking master race check that out. [22:58]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2015/09/war-on-engineering-teen-arrested-for-building-clock/#comment-58011 [22:59]
assbot War on Engineering: Teen Arrested for Building Clock | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1iiqlX8 ) [22:59]
mircea_popescu i bet they didn't even need glasses aged 12. [22:59]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the advent of crt ruined eyes [22:59]
asciilifeform everybody's mother, turns out, was right. [22:59]
mircea_popescu must be. [23:00]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: l0l [23:00]
asciilifeform fwiw, my brother, who did not see a computer until adulthood, has perfect vision. [23:00]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: the advent of crt ruined eyes << First summer after high school when exposed to computer monitors daily for extended periods of time first... Eyesight measurably worsened, kept myself to panel display only as much as I can after that [23:01]
mircea_popescu i have perfect vision, in spite of being on computers since about age 9. nevertheless, that distance is still uncomfortable for the purpose. [23:01]
asciilifeform different folks can take different amount of abuse before permanent mutilation, sure. [23:02]
BingoBoingo Up until that summer I used to be able to get all but the last line on the snell chart without effort. Last line could get about 75% nao cursed with 20/20 ish vision [23:03]
mircea_popescu 20/20 is not perfect ? merely normal ? [23:06]
asciilifeform it is sorta analogous to '100 iq' [23:06]
asciilifeform iirc. [23:06]
asciilifeform 'you will receive the standard substandard education!' -- 'tron' [23:07]
mircea_popescu this mention of the snellen chart finally jarred my understanding of the very widespread misconception that closing eye improves aim accuracy [23:08]
mircea_popescu THE DOCTOR MAKES YOU CLOSE ONE EYE [23:08]
mircea_popescu this, of course, because he is diagnosing one item at a time [23:08]
asciilifeform aha. [23:08]
mircea_popescu but "the intuition" thus formed is that you see better [23:08]
asciilifeform of course, if you have a monstrously uneven nearsightedness, you ~do~ see better [23:09]
asciilifeform but somehow i don't think this applies to most folks afflicted with 'one-eyed' aim [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13449 @ 0.00076106 = 10.2355 BTC [-] [23:10]
BingoBoingo but somehow i don't think this applies to most folks afflicted with 'one-eyed' aim << The reason for closing one eye is reaction speed and avoiding "noise" that emerges in binocular vision when eyes are disparate in their image quality. [23:11]
asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=1 out of range [23:11]
asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=2 out of range [23:11]
asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=3 out of range [23:11]
asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=4 out of range [23:11]
asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=5 out of range [23:11]
asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=6 out of range [23:11]
asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=7 out of range [23:11]
asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=8 out of range........ [23:11]
asciilifeform repeated 10,001 times [23:11]
asciilifeform for fuck's sake. [23:11]
asciilifeform i suppose this is the opposite magnetic pole from chicks throwing panties at you [23:12]
BingoBoingo Probably. [23:12]
asciilifeform is that thing actually relayed by somebody, or cooked special-order for my box, i wonder. [23:13]
BingoBoingo it wasn't my node, though it is peering with zoolag instead of Dulap nao [23:13]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [23:13]
gribble Current Blocks: 374868 | Current Difficulty: 5.695764845501001E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 374975 | Next Difficulty In: 107 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 5 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [23:13]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: zoolag is my only remaining operating node. [23:13]
asciilifeform (not counting incitatus, which is a thousand blocks behind) [23:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37081 @ 0.00075532 = 28.008 BTC [-] {3} [23:14]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Depending on how this bet goes I may get planned node Quantrill running sometime next month. [23:14]
asciilifeform neato [23:14]
asciilifeform at one point i had a thought: that one might win from logging monstrous tx-en [23:15]
BingoBoingo Just waiting to see if Apel refreshes the Mac Mini to drop used prices some more [23:15]
asciilifeform a good chunk of these is, likely, attempts at massage [23:15]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why on earth would you buy crapple unless intending to run their bizarre os [23:15]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: machine of equivalent horsepower and physical dimensions costs around a benjie, brand-new. [23:16]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/STvv9k2.jpg << and the end of bitfinex [23:17]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1iis6DV ) [23:17]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: machine of equivalent horsepower and physical dimensions costs around a benjie, brand-new. << Not of identical appearance though. Still looking at that model specific colo niche [23:17]
mircea_popescu apparently they DIDNT actually pay off all the 10-50mn they owed people for their most recent fraudulent move. [23:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: l0l! they're still alive ??!!! [23:18]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why does it need to have identical appearance? [23:18]
mircea_popescu the land of fictitious persons is mostly notable in a dire absence of death. [23:18]
asciilifeform now this is a certainty. [23:19]
asciilifeform they die, but quietly mummify in the cold vacuum. [23:19]
mircea_popescu myeah [23:20]
mircea_popescu not even always quietly. [23:20]
asciilifeform i do confess, i expected them to get away with it [23:21]
asciilifeform cleanly [23:21]
asciilifeform (that is, that 'crime pays' for so long as it involves moving btc to usg coffers and not otherwise) [23:21]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: why does it need to have identical appearance? << Apparently Mac Mini in particular is a colocation niche [23:22]
asciilifeform ah now i vaguely recall this. [23:22]
asciilifeform (old thread) [23:22]
mircea_popescu it's more complicated than that. a very complex balancing act of multiple separate agencies and the overriding consideration of "is the image hit worth it" all evaluated through multiple layers. [23:23]
mircea_popescu it's a full time job. of the nature and substance of learning to secure windows installations. [23:23]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: https://macstadium.com/ and other cheaper options, leader at this point because apparently have "DDoS mitigation" [23:23]
assbot MacStadium - Dedicated Mac Mini Hosting, Colocation, and Cloud Solutions ... ( http://bit.ly/1NE6ajV ) [23:23]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'ddos mitigation' is virtually guaranteed not to help you. likely - the opposite. [23:23]
BingoBoingo apparently they DIDNT actually pay off all the 10-50mn they owed people for their most recent fraudulent move. << care to qntra it? [23:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4619 @ 0.00075138 = 3.4706 BTC [-] [23:24]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/ << there is a trilema [23:24]
assbot So the broomstick fired. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3duik ) [23:24]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: 'ddos mitigation' is virtually guaranteed not to help you. likely - the opposite. << ANd then move to one of the ten or so other providers [23:24]
BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/ << there is a trilema << But the trilema is not their failure to pay [23:24]
assbot So the broomstick fired. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3duik ) [23:24]
mircea_popescu mmmm [23:25]
mircea_popescu meh. [23:25]
mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3l37lp/did_the_bitcoin_xt_died/cv32dgx [23:26]
mircea_popescu fucking epic. [23:26]
assbot cryptonaut420 comments on Did the bitcoin xt died? ... ( http://bit.ly/1iisORD ) [23:26]
mircea_popescu "Gavin and mike are busy travelling again this month https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bitcoin-xt/l0PA7UBuH9s [23:26]
mircea_popescu The rest of us are busy working, and also a lot of people starting school and stuff so this is a slow period in general." [23:26]
assbot Google Groupes ... ( http://bit.ly/1iisP7Z ) [23:26]
mircea_popescu i think the bitcoin xt might have did the died. [23:26]
mircea_popescu but the shit artists are, of course, "traveling". [23:26]
mircea_popescu which is why they call them "traveling people" historically, or "conference scum" more recently. [23:27]
asciilifeform 'Jeszcze ' Bitcoin XT ' nie zginęła, / Kiedy my żyjemy. / Co nam obca przemoc wzięła, / Szablą odbierzemy.' (tm) (r) (pl) [23:27]
mircea_popescu "We have plenty of time to see how this debate plays out. There is overwhelming support from the community, the merchant ecosystem and miners for a blocksize increase. If Core fails to sort out its governance issues, then by the time this problem really comes to the fore, XT will be the only solution implemented and readily available," [23:27]
mircea_popescu i bet the author is this stupid fat kid that's "a feminist" and also "really supports" womenz. [23:28]
mircea_popescu and you know, once they get their bad boy issues sorted, he'll be the only one ready, lubed up and with a (6 inch!) erection going! [23:28]
mircea_popescu http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikemontgomery/2015/09/15/bitcoin-is-only-the-beginning-for-blockchain-technology/ << still with this ? seriously ? [23:29]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1iit8jg ) [23:29]
mircea_popescu see alf, they never die. they just keep derping [23:29]
BingoBoingo i bet the author is this stupid fat kid that's "a feminist" and also "really supports" womenz. << You forget the FUDA: Fat Usurped Dick Area... Basically when the pubic fat is too much for the dick to be externally visible [23:30]
mircea_popescu o.O [23:30]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: l0l! [23:30]
mircea_popescu this happens doesn't it. [23:30]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: is there a magic point, one wonders [23:30]
asciilifeform where it... envaginates [23:30]
BingoBoingo It happens [23:30]
mircea_popescu so basically dudes get so fucking fat there's an ad hoc slit created around their cock [23:30]
mircea_popescu which doesn't have any of the antibacterial and drainage benefits of the female version [23:31]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Lemme dig for a medical photograph [23:31]
mircea_popescu good god [23:31]
asciilifeform if only p. t. barnum lived today ! [23:31]
mircea_popescu this conversation just blew my mind [23:31]
asciilifeform !b 13 [23:31]
mircea_popescu dude no wonder they're misrepresenting themselves as "gay" and "transsexual" and whatnot. [23:31]
assbot Last 13 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2EQ6YR7.txt ) [23:31]
mircea_popescu if you're sufficiently stupid and fat, that really becomes your gender. [23:31]
mircea_popescu there's male, female and stupidfat. [23:31]
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BingoBoingo first lol reddit [23:32]
mod6 ok. try out http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/vpatch-nodes.html [23:32]
assbot VPATCH_GRAPH ... ( http://bit.ly/1KdVBAp ) [23:32]
asciilifeform i suspect that ~this~ magical apogee is not reached until you get to 'too big for the crematorium' max level. [23:32]
asciilifeform mod6: this is perfect. [23:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's a product. 50% stupid 50% fat is more stupidfat than 150% fat 5% stupid. [23:32]
mod6 put the leafs to the same rank, and added the source file names to the arrows. some of the arrow heads come together, so just zoom in and hover over the line if need be. [23:32]
mod6 thanks asciilifeform [23:33]
asciilifeform finally, 'v' is useful ! [23:33]
mircea_popescu ok that's pretty awersome mod6 [23:33]
asciilifeform works ~exactly~ as i envisioned [23:33]
danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277142 << it's because of Eve that none are good [23:34]
assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 01:23:59; mircea_popescu: good people come from eve and bad people spawned off lillith, but americans all crawled out from between the thighs of one mae pollitt! [23:34]
danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277197 << not unlike noob crafters in Eulora? [23:34]
assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 01:42:58; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's nothing wrong with kid breaking up the shit in the house to make a shitty lesser something [23:34]
asciilifeform more or less what i pictured when http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-08-2015#1238291 [23:35]
assbot Logged on 15-08-2015 00:12:27; asciilifeform: a versioning system that is merely a few kb of script [23:35]
asciilifeform mod6: ~and~ this displays without horizontal scrolling on all of my displays. [23:35]
asciilifeform mega-win. [23:35]
mircea_popescu !rated mod6 [23:36]
assbot You rated user mod6 on 27-Nov-2014, with a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: The cave, age, tace school of thought. Nice work with the Bitcoin Foundation.. [23:36]
mircea_popescu yeah. mod6 for president. [23:36]
BingoBoingo NOT SAFE FOR LIFE https://slimgur.com/image/z02 [23:37]
assbot 34d8cf0a66dd51181d6adc61282ae6f6 - SLiMGUR ... ( http://bit.ly/1NE7uTW ) [23:37]
mod6 thanks mircea_popescu [23:38]
BingoBoingo ALso fastest qntra climb on reddit so far https://archive.is/tZNTs [23:38]
assbot BitPay Claims Hack Amounting to 5000 Bitcoins : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NE7zqW ) [23:38]
asciilifeform all that remains is to bolt a patch-eater onto it and then the classical turdatron can enjoy a quiet retirement [23:38]
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mircea_popescu dude no fucking way [23:38]
BingoBoingo i suspect that ~this~ magical apogee is not reached until you get to 'too big for the crematorium' max level. << Apparently not even that big [23:39]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: that poor schmuck can't even seppuku without grazing his cock [23:40]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Seriously [23:40]
asciilifeform (and would he have to use a full katana, instead of the usual wakizashi ?) [23:40]
BingoBoingo May actually have to use one of those hydraulic log splitters [23:40]
asciilifeform ahahahahaha [23:41]
asciilifeform yes [23:41]
asciilifeform mod6: possible idea for future graph: colour the patches officially blessed by mod6+ben_vulpes green [23:42]
asciilifeform ('release') [23:42]
mod6 solid idea, Sir. [23:42]
mod6 easy enough to add that logic in [23:43]
mod6 (famous last words) [23:43]
mircea_popescu mod6 no, do this : use the color bits! [23:43]
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asciilifeform alternatively, chessboard-alternate colour of patches included in releases; ones not included, remain white [23:43]
mircea_popescu there are what, 24 bits of color ? take the 24 signatories most highly ranked by mike and set or unset bytes accordingly. [23:43]
mircea_popescu can this be done ? [23:43]
mod6 oh huh! [23:43]
mod6 im sure something can be done there. [23:44]
mod6 :] [23:44]
asciilifeform set the text to be negated 24 bits of this, to remain readable [23:44]
* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [23:44]
asciilifeform this would make it a little hard to indicate actually-released-vs-not, though, no ? [23:44]
mircea_popescu well because of the nature of the svg, you actually get very predictablew coloring [23:45]
mircea_popescu because you can add your own postprocessing to null out some bytes. [23:45]
mircea_popescu some bits* [23:45]
mircea_popescu ie your green if foundation signed can be interpreted from it if one so wishes in one linbe [23:46]
asciilifeform iirc it takes standard vga 24-bit colour for text and background [23:46]
mircea_popescu ya [23:46]
mod6 it's this kinda thing: http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/manual/att_colors.html [23:46]
* asciilifeform pulls svg spec down from shelf, blows off eons of dust [23:46]
BingoBoingo https://archive.is/EYlcU [23:47]
assbot Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1iiuLNU ) [23:47]
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mircea_popescu mod6 ya, RGB: rgb(255,0,128) (0 .. 255, 0 .. 255, 0 .. 255) << so basically its 01010101 10101010 01010101 [23:47]
asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3l844m/email_from_cftc_asking_about_bitfinex_trading << l0l [23:48]
mircea_popescu this would indicate that of the collection of people who signed, the 2nd 4th 6th 8th 9th 11th 13th etc signed it [23:48]
assbot Email from CFTC asking about BitFinex trading activities : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1iiuR80 ) [23:48]
asciilifeform woah the arrow mouseovers work !! [23:49]
mircea_popescu :D [23:49]
mircea_popescu i wanna send this guy a cookie or something i like him so much [23:50]
mod6 awe :] [23:50]
mod6 yup, now you have descendants [23:51]
asciilifeform i officially take back the thing i said re: things not getting done until i do them ...! [23:51]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [23:51]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/008R957.txt ) [23:51]
mod6 that part of the code is gnarly. gotta re-work a bunch of this. [23:51]
mircea_popescu mod6 i take it that the idea of making V the epicenter of bitcoin releases going further is aprpoved by the foundation ? [23:52]
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* mircea_popescu will send 1 btc to the foundation donation nao, because srsly. [23:53]
mod6 it is by me anyway! [23:53]
mod6 Thank you, Sir! [23:54]
* BingoBoingo humbly requests a knowledgeable party write a qntra on the recent v-gasm [23:55]
asciilifeform btw this is the picture i needed to finally say clearly how 'v' ~was meant to work~ [23:55]
mod6 'V' is beautiful in its simplicity. [23:56]
asciilifeform a 'press' of, e.g., bleeding-edge would take asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch and asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch as the 'head' arguments. [23:56]
asciilifeform right now it takes asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch - but this is misleading, because it does not in fact depend on asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33353 @ 0.00076419 = 25.488 BTC [+] {5} [23:58]
mod6 that's one of the next things i have to tackle, aside from the cleanup of some stuff: press [23:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00076592 = 27.2668 BTC [+] [23:59]
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