Forum logs for 16 Mar 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [02:40] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com | [02:40] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 | [02:40] |
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d34th | davout deadweasel DefectiveNu1 deizel dexX7 Diablo-D3 diametric dignork Dimsler donpillou draino dub | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | davout : | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | !t m x.eur | [02:44] |
assbot | [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00210539 / 0.00211955 / 0.00213452 (1350 shares, 2.86 BTC), 7D: 0.0019005 / 0.00205257 / 0.00213452 (2068 shares, 4.24 BTC), 30D: 0.0019005 / 0.00207896 / 0.00226762 (8527 shares, 17.73 BTC) | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | $vwap x.eur | [02:44] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: X.EUR 1 day: average: 0.00211955 high: 0.00213452 low: 0.00210539 volume: 1350 btc: 2.861397 7 day: average: 0.00205258 high: 0.00213452 low: 0.0019005 volume: 2068 btc: 4.24473452 30 day: average: 0.00207897 high: 0.00226762 low: 0.0019005 volume: 8527 btc: 17.72735166 | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | $depth x.eur | [02:44] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: X.EUR Bids: ['450 @ 0.00212846', '2400 @ 0.0019005', '200 @ 0.00170512', '500 @ 0.00169213', '4200 @ 0.0016245'] | [02:44] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: Asks: ['450 @ 0.00213452', '450 @ 0.00220629', '432 @ 0.0025'] | [02:44] |
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mircea_popescu | wao-ender i guess they'll call a general mobilisation again | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | maybe this time a different 1% shows | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | do it 50 times, it almost gets to strength. | [02:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06825 = 0.6825 BTC [-] {2} | [02:48] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.053939 = 0.1079 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0008022 = 5.6956 BTC [-] | [02:54] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.052 = 0.52 BTC [-] | [02:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06822001 = 0.2047 BTC [-] | [03:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 281 @ 0.00212846 = 0.5981 BTC [+] | [03:02] |
KRS-One | .bait | [03:03] |
ozbot | http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m437sxjpct1qk2vvro1_1280.jpg | [03:03] |
KRS-One | http://i.imgur.com/IeMUwZP.jpg | [03:03] |
KRS-One | how many times have we known old men like that lol | [03:04] |
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Dimsler | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20iem7/the_bitcoin_network_costs_nearly_1_billion_a_year/ | [03:23] |
ozbot | The Bitcoin network costs nearly $1 billion a year to run. : Bitcoin | [03:23] |
Dimsler | discuss | [03:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05333326 = 0.16 BTC [+] {3} | [03:24] |
tim-tams | ;;gettrust majinx | [03:25] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user tim-tams to user majinx: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 10 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=tim-tams&dest=majinx | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=majinx | Rated since: Tue Jul 3 13:05:15 2012 | [03:25] |
mircea_popescu | no price is too high. | [03:26] |
lnovy | price is too damn high! | [03:26] |
Dimsler | mircea_popescu, | [03:27] |
Dimsler | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20iem7/the_bitcoin_network_costs_nearly_1_billion_a_year/ | [03:27] |
ozbot | The Bitcoin network costs nearly $1 billion a year to run. : Bitcoin | [03:27] |
Dimsler | the real fatal flaw to bitcoin | [03:27] |
Dimsler | is the distribution of new coins | [03:27] |
Dimsler | and network costs | [03:27] |
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lnovy | electricity burned is almost directly transformed into network security which more or less directly affects price. The real problem and wasting is not with distributed mining but with nondistributed chain verification as this needs to be done by every participant indepently and every new member of network need to check whole chain. This is a problem that will kill ethereum very quicky as you are actually not paying transaction fee for inclusion in the b | [03:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.11950724 = 0.9561 BTC [-] | [03:34] |
lnovy | I'm trying to fix this in my coin, releasing asap™ (and no, it's not a currency). | [03:34] |
Dimsler | can i premine it? | [03:34] |
Dimsler | lol | [03:34] |
lnovy | it's will not be a storage of value, so feel free, but it's doomed to fail anyway, it's only a proof of concept same as huntercoin :) | [03:36] |
lnovy | still... it will be a jaw dropper, you can bet on it | [03:37] |
MisterE | if you want to fix the problem force miners to reclaim wasted heat | [03:38] |
lnovy | that problem will fix itselfs by the market... | [03:39] |
dub | whats amex opex like? | [03:39] |
MisterE | so ahy hasn't it | [03:39] |
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lnovy | amex opex of what? | [03:41] |
mircea_popescu | Dimsler if oyu say so. | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | dub american express does options nao ? | [03:43] |
lnovy | oh, this amex :D | [03:43] |
dub | ok so amex spent 2.8b opex last year | [03:44] |
dub | they are fairly small as payment processors go right? | [03:44] |
dub | Dimsler can parrot failed trollmemes all he likes | [03:44] |
dub | wait, that might quarterly | [03:45] |
Dimsler | well no | [03:45] |
Dimsler | its a serious flaw | [03:45] |
mircea_popescu | dub amex is one of the majors. | [03:45] |
dub | smaller than visa and mc tho | [03:46] |
mircea_popescu | nah larger. 33bn/8bn vs 10/2bn for visa | [03:46] |
mircea_popescu | roughly same for mc, slighly lower, something like that. | [03:47] |
dub | probably significantly skewed | [03:47] |
mircea_popescu | amex actually employs like... twice as many ppl as mc/visa combined or some shit. | [03:48] |
mircea_popescu | it's huge. | [03:48] |
cazalla | why do t hey need that many employees? | [03:49] |
lnovy | that reddit post kills itself in first two lines... it's like saying that cost of running banking system is equivalent to amount of fiat printed... | [03:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00080132 = 13.7026 BTC [-] | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck do i know. better ask chenault | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | or w/e is the ceo by now | [03:49] |
dub | probably to process a reciept for every bullet the USG buys | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | fuck me it's still chenault | [03:50] |
mircea_popescu | he's in there since before greenspan o.o | [03:50] |
dub | anyway having a tiny fraction of the costs of incumbents sure sounds like a serious flaw | [03:52] |
dub | a Real Problem in the john kerry sense | [03:52] |
mircea_popescu | a kerriblem | [03:52] |
mircea_popescu | there's problems, see, and pros solve problems. then there's kerriblems, and kerry solves those. | [03:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6101 BTC [-] | [03:53] |
lnovy | John Kerry is the problem, not the solution | [03:54] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00599999 = 0.12 BTC [-] | [03:56] |
Mats_cd03 | Amex is operating in the stone age | [03:58] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07 = 0.14 BTC [+] | [03:58] |
mircea_popescu | apparently stone age is profitable enough. | [04:00] |
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dub | a US megacorp i worked for pushed an innordinant amount of what should have been internal txns out to amex | [04:02] |
mircea_popescu | http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/business/an-underling-among-the-officials-accused-of-fraud-at-dewey.html | [04:03] |
mircea_popescu | dub primitive blockchain | [04:03] |
dub | expect there is a lot of that going on, why run lean? | [04:03] |
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mircea_popescu | indeed. | [04:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00080117 = 9.7743 BTC [-] {2} | [04:05] |
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mircea_popescu | turns out trusting the usg isn't a workable policy. who knew. | [04:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5027 @ 0.00080587 = 4.0511 BTC [+] {2} | [04:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8123 @ 0.000807 = 6.5553 BTC [+] {2} | [04:14] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6101 BTC [-] | [04:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00080192 = 10.6254 BTC [-] {2} | [04:18] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00359989 = 0.1008 BTC [+] | [04:24] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00080713 = 15.739 BTC [+] {2} | [04:25] |
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MisterE | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fla-man-arrested-sex-pit-bull-yard-report-article-1.1712069 | [04:29] |
MisterE | "OMG please stop" | [04:29] |
MisterE | lol | [04:29] |
Diablo-D3 | [10:02:38] |
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Diablo-D3 | wat | [04:31] |
MisterE | yea I caught that too | [04:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7287 @ 0.00080743 = 5.8837 BTC [+] | [04:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00359989 = 0.1476 BTC [+] | [04:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00080748 = 20.3081 BTC [+] {2} | [04:37] |
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Neil | Nobody's being forced to run the bitcoin network, hence no problem. | [04:42] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.0035 = 0.875 BTC [-] | [04:45] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.006 = 0.24 BTC [+] | [04:47] |
mircea_popescu | Neil you'll be surprised by how creatively "forced" can be interpreted by politics, in either direction. | [04:47] |
mircea_popescu | "nobody is forced to talk to the da", as exemplified by my earlier link, for one side of the coin. "wage slavery" equals forcing people to x y z on the other. | [04:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 395 @ 0.006 = 2.37 BTC [+] | [04:48] |
mircea_popescu | there's ample caselaw showing both the "putting a gun to your head does not constitute forcing you" argument and the "minding your own business and cultivating your own field amounts to forcing other people" argument. | [04:49] |
mircea_popescu | "Other things being equal, the highest stock market prices relative to intrinsic business value are given to companies whose managers have demonstrated their unwillingness to issue shares at any time on terms unfavorable to the owners of the business." | [04:54] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1982.html buffett continues to deliver. | [04:54] |
ozbot | Chairman's Letter - 1982 | [04:54] |
dub | Diablo-D3: wat wat | [04:58] |
Diablo-D3 | dub: how does that even happen | [04:58] |
dub | meh its too hard to explain how the world works to someone thats never had a job | [04:59] |
Diablo-D3 | dub: what was the outcome of this | [04:59] |
dub | of what | [04:59] |
Diablo-D3 | of that mistake | [04:59] |
jcpham | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20gkdx/legitimate_wager_300_bitcoins_vs_1_class_a_share/ | [05:00] |
ozbot | Legitimate Wager: 300 Bitcoins vs. 1 Class A Share of Berkshire Hathaway : Bitcoin | [05:00] |
dub | im not following you | [05:00] |
Diablo-D3 | dub: what happened when the corp send the internal txns to amex | [05:00] |
jcpham | apparently he backed out of class A shares | [05:00] |
dub | Diablo-D3: nothing, its BAU.. I was offering a reason for why amex is 'larger' than processors with more footprint | [05:01] |
Diablo-D3 | ahh | [05:01] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitbet.us/bet/777/berkshire-hathaway-brk-a-will-close-at-over-185k/ | [05:01] |
mircea_popescu | was it that ? | [05:01] |
Diablo-D3 | thought maybe amex got pissed or something | [05:01] |
ozbot | BitBet - Berkshire Hathaway BRK-A will close at over $185k per share before July | [05:01] |
mircea_popescu | haha look at that, reddit generates 200 comments worth 20k words for a 0.25 btc wager. | [05:02] |
mircea_popescu | the wear&tear on the cheap chiense keyboards involved probably exceeds that figure. | [05:02] |
dub | how much energy does reddit waste? | [05:04] |
dub | thats a real problem | [05:04] |
dub | if we ground up all the redditors and rendered them down for biomass.. | [05:05] |
mircea_popescu | you don't understand, they're making the world a better place. | [05:05] |
mircea_popescu | if it wasn't for reddit you'd probably still be killing animals for meat | [05:05] |
dub | we could at least run bitconi for a year and the world would only be half as retarded | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | and like... who knows what other perversions. talking to girls prolly. | [05:06] |
dub | mom is girl tho rite? | [05:07] |
mircea_popescu | only if trampstamped. | [05:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00080653 = 12.5415 BTC [-] | [05:08] |
dub | theres an alt concept for you. BitKony (2014) | [05:08] |
jcpham | i found it funny he posted a reddit thread about putting your money where your mouth is.... | [05:09] |
jcpham | it's looks like 2 people took him up on it | [05:10] |
jcpham | and suddenly he had no A, only B shares | [05:10] |
jcpham | pretty terrible bet if you ask me | [05:10] |
MisterE | Buffet doesnt get BTC | [05:13] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [13:28] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com | [13:28] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 | [13:28] |
mircea_popescu | soo today is going to be a big news day. | [13:28] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61000001 BTC [-] | [13:32] |
balulasch | mircea what are you referring to? | [13:38] |
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dub | pulling the plug on mpex ponzi | [13:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00079551 = 12.4497 BTC [-] | [13:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1951 @ 0.00330923 = 6.4563 BTC [-] {6} | [14:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 948 @ 0.00320167 = 3.0352 BTC [-] {7} | [14:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.0007951 = 8.6666 BTC [-] {2} | [14:09] |
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balulasch_ | collective hangover | [14:26] |
balulasch_ | collective coma | [14:26] |
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balulasch_ | what | [14:28] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06999998 = 0.14 BTC [+] | [14:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00338159 = 0.1488 BTC [+] {4} | [14:35] |
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LordPutin | Mark Karpelas was on mh370? | [14:35] |
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balulasch_ | yes | [14:37] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0007991 = 4.0754 BTC [+] | [14:50] |
Neil | LordPutin: lol | [14:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26143 @ 0.00080088 = 20.9374 BTC [+] {4} | [14:59] |
mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [15:05] |
gribble | Time since last block: 10 minutes and 36 seconds | [15:05] |
ThickAsThieves | what's the big news? | [15:07] |
balulasch_ | cbtc's 2weekly report will be big news | [15:07] |
mircea_popescu | gimme a minute eh. | [15:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1256 @ 0.00080451 = 1.0105 BTC [+] | [15:08] |
ThickAsThieves | pump moar | [15:08] |
balulasch_ | hope they will release it today even though its sunday | [15:09] |
Duffer1 | z | [15:09] |
Duffer1 | er | [15:09] |
Duffer1 | zzzzz | [15:10] |
ThickAsThieves | maybe they'll release it yesterday | [15:10] |
ThickAsThieves | wouldnt that be awesomer? | [15:10] |
balulasch_ | no | [15:10] |
balulasch_ | bought my shares today | [15:10] |
Duffer1 | i'm sorry to hear that | [15:10] |
Duffer1 | buy rumor sell news | [15:11] |
balulasch_ | why do i never get an answer that makes any sense | [15:11] |
ThickAsThieves | responses are in kind | [15:11] |
balulasch_ | just read a lot of the channels log aswell | [15:12] |
Duffer1 | it's good that you're hear though | [15:12] |
balulasch_ | bs talk all the way | [15:12] |
ThickAsThieves | how long did it take? | [15:12] |
balulasch_ | can someone recommend me some useful irc channels? | [15:12] |
ThickAsThieves | #altcoin | [15:13] |
ThickAsThieves | #mtgox | [15:13] |
Duffer1 | you can hang around and try to avoid catastrophic losses i suppose | [15:13] |
balulasch_ | on freenode? | [15:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00080449 = 11.3031 BTC [-] {2} | [15:13] |
Duffer1 | any other channel should suffice otherwise | [15:14] |
nubbins` | [15:15] | |
Duffer1 | well ya but there's good bits too :P | [15:16] |
ThickAsThieves | yeah but bs is just the style of the conversation | [15:16] |
ThickAsThieves | so much context in it tho | [15:16] |
ThickAsThieves | i guess it's that "variety speak" | [15:16] |
Duffer1 | indeed | [15:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 246 @ 0.00320465 = 0.7883 BTC [-] {7} | [15:19] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [15:27] |
gribble | Time since last block: 32 minutes and 34 seconds | [15:27] |
mircea_popescu | jesus fuck which of you broke bitcoin | [15:27] |
ThickAsThieves | i'll try rebooting | [15:28] |
ThickAsThieves | mp's big news is that bitcoin is hacked, he;s just waiting for his coins to clear | [15:28] |
Apocalyptic | heh | [15:28] |
ThickAsThieves | maybe he finally bought Rift | [15:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00080417 = 2.3723 BTC [-] | [15:30] |
Apocalyptic | why would he wait for a tx to clear then ? | [15:31] |
mircea_popescu | dude how does this shit work. 35 minutes for a block, then 3 blocks in 3 minutes. | [15:31] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;tslb | [15:31] |
gribble | Time since last block: 1 minute and 6 seconds | [15:31] |
ThickAsThieves | blame the Real Nigga God | [15:32] |
Duffer1 | LOL | [15:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00080591 = 24.6206 BTC [+] {3} | [15:37] |
nubbins` | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/march-against-police-brutality-declared-illegal-broken-up-1.2574163 | [15:40] |
ozbot | March against police brutality declared illegal, broken up - Montreal - CBC News | [15:40] |
nubbins` | didn't see that coming | [15:40] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 195 @ 0.0060001 = 1.17 BTC [+] | [15:43] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.62084749 = 2.4834 BTC [+] {4} | [15:45] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0033 = 0.33 BTC [+] | [15:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.006 = 3 BTC [-] {3} | [15:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 600 @ 0.006 = 3.6 BTC [-] | [15:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17898 @ 0.00080835 = 14.4678 BTC [+] {2} | [15:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.62186666 = 3.7312 BTC [+] {4} | [15:48] |
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mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/an-era-ends-today-a-new-era-starts-today/ | [15:49] |
ozbot | An era ends today. A new era starts today. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [15:49] |
mircea_popescu | that's the big news | [15:49] |
mircea_popescu | (still your fluttering hearts, it's nothing bad) | [15:49] |
mircea_popescu | also if anyone wants to put it on reddit (and thanks jcpham for mentioning the lulzy reddit "bet", he inspired me) | [15:50] |
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ThickAsThieves | interesting | [15:56] |
ThickAsThieves | i just threw 5 on it too | [15:58] |
mircea_popescu | what, on yes ? | [15:58] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.612755 = 2.451 BTC [-] {3} | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [16:11] |
gribble | Time since last block: 26 minutes and 24 seconds | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | check it out, again. | [16:11] |
ThickAsThieves | it's hard there for a pimp | [16:14] |
ThickAsThieves | out there* | [16:14] |
mircea_popescu | somebody really should check out the block timing, there may be some sort of issue here. | [16:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05239895 = 0.1048 BTC [+] {2} | [16:23] |
balulasch_ | why? i dont see any problem with that | [16:23] |
mircea_popescu | balulasch_ can you calculate the odds of a block taking 30 minutes to solve ? | [16:24] |
mircea_popescu | dubsy why haet. | [16:25] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP8RB7UZHKI | [16:26] |
ozbot | 3-year-old Mateo Makes His Case for Cupcakes: "Linda, honey, just listen." - YouTube | [16:26] |
balulasch_ | no idea | [16:28] |
mircea_popescu | balulasch_ re the cbtc bs : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465334.0 | [16:28] |
mircea_popescu | bullshit corp made out of bullshit, worth ~the going rate for bullshit in your jurisdiction. | [16:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.612001 = 1.224 BTC [-] {2} | [16:29] |
chetty | TAT I saw that video couple days ago, nothing cute about it | [16:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10220 @ 0.00086345 = 8.8245 BTC [+] {2} | [16:30] |
ThickAsThieves | hater | [16:31] |
balulasch_ | do you think the total wagered coins on bit777 main page are made up? | [16:31] |
balulasch_ | if not | [16:31] |
balulasch_ | stock price will double later today | [16:31] |
ThickAsThieves | i hope he hope his cheated-on wife makes a similar video in 20 yeards | [16:31] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvZgwtpPmLY | [16:32] |
ozbot | blues brothers - sell me your children - YouTube | [16:32] |
mircea_popescu | moar bettar. | [16:32] |
ThickAsThieves | balulasch_ I take it you're the one with the 35k-share ask wall on CBTC | [16:35] |
ThickAsThieves | well, not a "wall" | [16:35] |
ThickAsThieves | but | [16:35] |
ThickAsThieves | yknow | [16:35] |
balulasch_ | 2014-03-16 07:01:13 18756 ฿0.00015000 ฿2.8134 | [16:35] |
balulasch_ | that was me | [16:35] |
ThickAsThieves | pumping your stock in here won't move the price | [16:35] |
ThickAsThieves | try trollchat or something | [16:36] |
balulasch_ | im just asking for opinions | [16:36] |
mircea_popescu | !t h cbtc | [16:36] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK:CBTC] 1D: 0.00014500 / 0.00014974 / 0.00015992 (23741 shares, 3.55508111 BTC), 7D: 0.00009900 / 0.00014508 / 0.00018799 (193380 shares, 28.05464854 BTC), 30D: 0.00009900 / 0.00018188 / 0.00024990 (1108845 shares, 201.67261943 BTC) | [16:36] |
mircea_popescu | what did it ipo at anyway, was it 2 ? or 1 or what ? | [16:36] |
balulasch_ | 12 | [16:36] |
ThickAsThieves | it'd take about 200btc to double the price | [16:37] |
mircea_popescu | yeah well. tell them to start making proper reports and stop with the nonsensical "we are great ra ra ra" bullshit, | [16:37] |
mircea_popescu | maybe they have a chance to matter in a year or w/e. | [16:37] |
Neil | Oh dear; I now have 12 months of loading bitbet to see Berkshire Hathaway at the top. | [16:37] |
ThickAsThieves | lol | [16:38] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [16:38] |
ThickAsThieves | kinda an important observation | [16:38] |
mircea_popescu | you never know when a diff bet comes and swoops the top spot you know ? | [16:38] |
ThickAsThieves | sets the tone for any new visitor | [16:38] |
ThickAsThieves | for better or worse | [16:38] |
mircea_popescu | so far 1000:1 odds lol | [16:39] |
balulasch_ | https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2SWZWkGJ1V3UEo0Q0lESk5nd0k&usp=sharing | [16:39] |
ozbot | CasinoBitco.in - Public | [16:39] |
Neil | Gotta say despite the odds I'm not gonna bet No on that one. | [16:39] |
balulasch_ | new 2weekly report coming soon | [16:39] |
mircea_popescu | Neil nuts. | [16:39] |
mircea_popescu | i mean i fully understand you, but from an "outside" perspective, right ? fucking nuts. | [16:39] |
mircea_popescu | perhaps this is the best line to explain to noobs why bitcoin is so powerful : | [16:39] |
mircea_popescu | "honey, there's a 1000:1 bet that berkshire will outperform bitcoin in 2014, and i'm not taking it" | [16:40] |
Neil | You mean, if you're not a bitcoin believer? Then yeah. But I'm quite confident BTC will outperform Berkshire. | [16:40] |
mircea_popescu | kinda why the article is adressed to the would-be financiers of wallstreet and generally the world's pretend-bankers. | [16:40] |
ThickAsThieves | it also has to outperform USD inflation | [16:40] |
Neil | Unfortunately those who don't believe in bitcoin will not have bitcoin to spend on the bet :) | [16:40] |
mircea_popescu | none of them will make 1k btc in 2014. so why aren't they ? | [16:40] |
mircea_popescu | "they choose not to run", perhaps ? | [16:40] |
Neil | Or will say their winnings will be near-worthless, yadda yadda. | [16:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 449 @ 0.006 = 2.694 BTC [-] | [16:41] |
mircea_popescu | no resources, no skill, no talent, no ability, no brains, perhaps ? | [16:41] |
ThickAsThieves | the excuse will be, I don't wanna have to buy bitcoins to bet against bitcoin | [16:41] |
mircea_popescu | derp. | [16:41] |
Neil | Would be funny if Buffett bet 1k BTC on the other side tho. | [16:41] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves anyway, that's the genius of it :D | [16:41] |
Neil | I'd join in then. | [16:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.052399 = 0.1048 BTC [+] {2} | [16:42] |
mircea_popescu | Neil so mail him. | [16:42] |
ThickAsThieves | and Buffet would say of this bet, "The bet is a perfect example of why Bitcoin is a bad investment, it is speculation and gambling at its purest!" | [16:42] |
chetty | purity :D | [16:42] |
mircea_popescu | "no intrinsic value in this bet" | [16:42] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves oddly, he doesn't say the same of government-sponsored transfer of wealth from the middle class to the lower class. that's fine, iho. | [16:43] |
ThickAsThieves | well he can only lean on the inertia of BRK so hard til it falls over | [16:44] |
ThickAsThieves | in less than a year I learned a bunch of stuff about Buffet, and then the first letter I get to read as it is release, reads like satire | [16:45] |
ThickAsThieves | kinda surreal | [16:45] |
ThickAsThieves | released* | [16:45] |
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mircea_popescu | indeed. | [16:46] |
mircea_popescu | well, we should be so lucky to live to be our own parodies. | [16:46] |
mircea_popescu | or perhaps not. | [16:46] |
mircea_popescu | i guess the world is split in tow sorts of people : those who aspire to be so lucky to live to be our own parodies, and those who aspire to be so lucky to die before that. | [16:46] |
ThickAsThieves | Yes is already a losing bet in BitBet calc, lol | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [16:47] |
ThickAsThieves | i aalways thought most people lived as parodies of themselves | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | i guess that's also true... | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | btw, someone dump the trilema article on reddit will you ? i wanna see them writhe. | [16:48] |
nubbins` | living as a parody of pop culture is more common | [16:48] |
ThickAsThieves | it's a feedback loop | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of which "kardashian is a hobbit" sp kicked ass. | [16:49] |
ThickAsThieves | not sure which is the chicken and which the egg | [16:49] |
Duffer1 | sp? | [16:50] |
nubbins` | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/2-involved-in-apparent-stabbings-mum-rnc-investigate-1.2574735 | [16:50] |
ozbot | 2 involved in apparent stabbings mum, RNC investigate - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News | [16:50] |
nubbins` | ^ my neighbourhood | [16:50] |
mircea_popescu | south park | [16:50] |
nubbins` | "police said neither of the men wanted to provide any further detail about the incidents" | [16:50] |
Duffer1 | oh man stick of truth was... wow | [16:51] |
wao-ender | aspiration to quantum self-parody? | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | lol yea | [16:52] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20jxdg/bitcoin_baron_bets_bitcoin_beats_berkshire/ | [16:52] |
ozbot | Bitcoin Baron Bets Bitcoin Beats Berkshire : Bitcoin | [16:52] |
ThickAsThieves | :) | [16:53] |
mircea_popescu | lol ima gonna have to end up buying a barony in the end | [16:53] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves nice pic. did you select it or did it autoselect ? | [16:53] |
nubbins` | bitcoin bettor buys barony | [16:53] |
ThickAsThieves | auto-pic | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | haha | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | holy shit that's an epic title anyway. | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | !b 10 | [16:54] |
assbot | Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1735504/plain/) | [16:54] |
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nubbins` | bitcoin behemoth barony brouhaha bashed | [16:55] |
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ThickAsThieves | fwiw i watched the nethash decrease about 200TH over the past hour | [16:56] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;tslb | [16:57] |
gribble | Time since last block: 4 minutes and 15 seconds | [16:57] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/Thick_AsThieves that you ? | [16:57] |
Duffer1 | trouble at mount asicminer? | [16:58] |
ThickAsThieves | Not me | [16:58] |
ThickAsThieves | appears t be London DJs | [16:58] |
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mircea_popescu | https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/445212966003441664 | [17:00] |
ozbot | Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Tremendously tittilating title ... | [17:00] |
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ThickAsThieves | Can you tell I've been reading TheRegister for more than a decade? | [17:00] |
mircea_popescu | only if i look right at it. | [17:01] |
Diablo-D3 | [10:53:20] |
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ThickAsThieves | my favorite is how all their Yahoo headlines have ! after every word | [17:01] |
Diablo-D3 | the only way that could have come out better is | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu | yeah the ! is pretty good. | [17:01] |
balulasch_ | nice bet | [17:01] |
Diablo-D3 | bitcoin brony baron bets bitcoin beats berkshire | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu | sort of insanely funny subdued lolz. | [17:01] |
balulasch_ | mircea_popescu did you set up this bet? | [17:02] |
ThickAsThieves | balulaash, do you read? | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 but i'm not a brony. perhaps the only bitcoin veteran in this sad situation. | [17:02] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: only b word I could think of | [17:02] |
Diablo-D3 | well one that'd increase views | [17:02] |
balulasch_ | cant believe someone bet 1000btc on this | [17:03] |
mircea_popescu | which reminds me, when i was a kid there was this wrestler dubbed bam bam biggelow | [17:03] |
ThickAsThieves | i remember him | [17:03] |
Diablo-D3 | that was a looooooooooooong time ago | [17:03] |
Diablo-D3 | that was like, hulk hogan era | [17:03] |
Diablo-D3 | back when people still watched it | [17:03] |
balulasch_ | tatanka | [17:03] |
ThickAsThieves | Koko B Ware | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | yeah was before sena died and they fucked up f1 | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | kinda stopped watching it that year. | [17:04] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: who? | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | Ayrton Senna | [17:04] |
* | Diablo-D3 never watched wrestling as a kid, it was too much like soap operas for men | [17:04] |
Diablo-D3 | only had friends who watched it and they wouldnt shut up about it | [17:04] |
Diablo-D3 | and had fucking tshirts and shit | [17:05] |
balulasch_ | i have friends who still watch it after 15yrs | [17:05] |
balulasch_ | and they take it for real | [17:05] |
Diablo-D3 | well I remember everyone quit watching it, then they had that NWO shit | [17:05] |
balulasch_ | somehow | [17:05] |
Diablo-D3 | then the NWO shit wore out and then they went to college | [17:05] |
ThickAsThieves | due to them being the same day, i have an odd association with WWF and Catechism as a child | [17:06] |
Diablo-D3 | I mean, I have to give it to wrestling | [17:06] |
Diablo-D3 | they made fun of bush and it stuck | [17:06] |
Diablo-D3 | ThickAsThieves: wtf is catechism? | [17:06] |
Duffer1 | catholic nonsense | [17:06] |
ThickAsThieves | wrestling was always the hot topic whilst learning about jesus | [17:06] |
balulasch_ | lol | [17:06] |
ThickAsThieves | it's sunday school | [17:06] |
Diablo-D3 | ahh | [17:06] |
Diablo-D3 | sunday school never made sense to me | [17:06] |
ThickAsThieves | gotta do it for 8 years before you can leave the scene | [17:07] |
Diablo-D3 | ThickAsThieves: then the catholic church is not a church | [17:07] |
Diablo-D3 | it is a cult and it is against God | [17:07] |
ThickAsThieves | well that's just how i saw it | [17:07] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves did you get a little white tutu and everything ? or do they only do that for girls | [17:07] |
ThickAsThieves | yeah have to wear some kind of robe | [17:07] |
mircea_popescu | nuts. | [17:08] |
ThickAsThieves | i remember my confirmation vividly because i said to myself over and over "never forget how happy you are that you never have to come here again" | [17:08] |
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mircea_popescu | haha | [17:08] |
mircea_popescu | the shit people come up with, i swear. | [17:08] |
ThickAsThieves | oddly it was the first time I ever had hot flashes and almost fainted | [17:08] |
Duffer1 | did you get your little scarf thing too? | [17:08] |
mircea_popescu | i mean religion is one thing, as a theological pursuit, you know, whatever, let's sit around and discuss the beard of the teapot in the sky | [17:09] |
ThickAsThieves | the next time was in Amsterdam :) | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | but by the time it gets to "you gotta wear this thing" it's gotten real old. | [17:09] |
Diablo-D3 | ThickAsThieves: that sounds closer to an axienty attack | [17:09] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: well, its actually why I like Jesus | [17:09] |
ThickAsThieves | well not much distinction | [17:10] |
Diablo-D3 | he said, and this is why he killed him, "all this shit they make you do that God didn't expressly say do? stop doing it. God didnt tell you to do that." | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves was it because the nude chicks behind glass ? | [17:10] |
ThickAsThieves | either way everything turned white and i almost passed out | [17:10] |
Diablo-D3 | Jews freaked out and killed him for it | [17:10] |
Diablo-D3 | he basically Snowdened the Jews. | [17:10] |
ThickAsThieves | no cuz i smoked too much hash | [17:10] |
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ThickAsThieves | it's weird, it happened to me both times i was in Amsterdam | [17:11] |
ThickAsThieves | the flashes | [17:11] |
mircea_popescu | yeah it can do that. | [17:11] |
ThickAsThieves | never happened back home though | [17:11] |
Diablo-D3 | pot can do that, yeah | [17:11] |
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ThickAsThieves | "Bitchin' bet, bro! Bitcoin bears best become Bitcoin bulls." | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | you're on a broll, bro! | [17:14] |
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ThickAsThieves | byeah! | [17:14] |
Duffer1 | buy bitcoin. bitches. | [17:14] |
Diablo-D3 | bullshit | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | wait that was you ? | [17:14] |
Diablo-D3 | .... you know, why has there never been a financial blog for bears named bullshit? | [17:14] |
Diablo-D3 | seems like a lost oppertunity there | [17:15] |
mircea_popescu | maybe so | [17:15] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/#b7 | [17:17] |
ozbot | BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | gotta love these fiat guys. 0.00450000 at a time, srsly, don't give yourselves a hernia folks | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | lifting all that moneys up to the BitBet coinslit. | [17:18] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/03/breaking-as-cyprus-crisis-increases-panic-bitcoin-hits-new-all-time-high-of-50/ | [17:18] |
ThickAsThieves | "Analysts now see $100 BTC within easy reach. I am sticking to my bet. I bet Warren Buffett 100,000 BTC that BTC reaches $200,000 before Berkshire Hathaway does." | [17:18] |
ThickAsThieves | maybe Max needs to put his BitBet where his mouth is | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu | lol max bets 100k ? bwahaha. | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu | o wait was 2013 huh. | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | that should make nice news for a blogger wanting toi have some fun | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | berkshire will probably cross 200k sometime this summer. | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | whereas max derper never had nor will ever have 100k btc. | [17:20] |
ThickAsThieves | Can't have your soul and eat it to, after all | [17:21] |
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Duffer1 | what was the market cap of BTC this time last year? i'm sure it was already well beyond 200k.. | [17:22] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [17:22] |
mircea_popescu | the funniest shit will be if the us inflation goes bonkers this year, berkshire ends up ~2mn by next march, bitcoins trade ~6k ish | [17:22] |
mircea_popescu | just you now... narrowly missing the no condition. | [17:22] |
LordPutin | blue means yes right? | [17:24] |
ThickAsThieves | yeah, i suspect any violent increase in inflation would result in a more abrupt increase in bitcoin value than BRK-A | [17:24] |
ThickAsThieves | yes, yes is the aque color | [17:25] |
ThickAsThieves | aqua* | [17:25] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1400 @ 0.00015 = 0.21 BTC [+] | [17:25] |
LordPutin | wow i would take the no for sure | [17:28] |
ThickAsThieves | http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/15/julie-ann-horvath-describes-sexism-and-intimidation-behind-her-github-exit/ | [17:30] |
ozbot | Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism And Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit | TechCrunch | [17:30] |
ThickAsThieves | Well, LordPutin, go for it! | [17:30] |
TomServo | mircea_popescu: You saying Senna dying fucked F1, or something else? | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo his dying resulted in them trying to fix "problems" which were wholly imaginary. | [17:32] |
mircea_popescu | the point of life isn't to avoid people getting killed. | [17:32] |
ThickAsThieves | ick, skiing | [17:33] |
TomServo | mircea_popescu: I don't see the harm in making it a bit safer, the danger is still present | [17:33] |
ThickAsThieves | wrestling got stupid when it tried to mature | [17:34] |
ThickAsThieves | it should have always been a superhero cartoon | [17:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.10099644 BTC [-] | [17:34] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo hey, what can i tell you. it's not that i didn't like it because they made safer | [17:35] |
mircea_popescu | it's just... once they made it safer it became whatever. | [17:35] |
ThickAsThieves | i think they also got distracted by Ultimate Fighting | [17:35] |
mircea_popescu | "Holy moly - someone bet 1000 xbt. Is that you, Roger?" | [17:35] |
mircea_popescu | gotta love reddits :D | [17:35] |
TomServo | mircea_popescu: so if someone dies this year, you back in? :D | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | i loved senna too. it | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | s just... worst fucking thing you can do in memory of someone who died | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | make the thing he died for die with him. | [17:36] |
ThickAsThieves | the BRK bettor already saying he won't bet cuz it's in bitcoin | [17:37] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20jxdg/bitcoin_baron_bets_bitcoin_beats_berkshire/cg3z8yi | [17:38] |
mircea_popescu | derp. | [17:38] |
mircea_popescu | i thought he won't bet because all he had was a 25 bitcent share. | [17:39] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/ < look, it's on the hotlist. | [17:42] |
ozbot | Bitcoin | [17:42] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 18 @ 0.00565901 = 0.1019 BTC [+] {2} | [17:43] |
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ThickAsThieves | doesnt appear as hot for me, maybe cuz i posted it? | [17:46] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.30790962 BTC to 3`901 shares, 59162 satoshi per share | [17:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1775 @ 0.0008949 = 1.5884 BTC [+] | [18:10] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [+] | [18:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0008949 = 4.743 BTC [+] | [18:18] |
Apocalyptic | .d | [18:21] |
ozbot | 4.250 billion | Next Diff in 1456 blocks | Estimated Change: 8.4784% in 9d 5h 55m 19s | [18:21] |
copumpkin | mircea_popescu: hardcore :) | [18:26] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.08605557 = 0.7745 BTC [-] {3} | [18:26] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00088955 = 3.6916 BTC [-] {2} | [18:41] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3663 @ 0.00014283 = 0.5232 BTC [-] {10} | [18:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00088898 = 9.2454 BTC [-] {2} | [18:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.0008905 = 14.3371 BTC [+] {2} | [18:57] |
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matthew_boyd | mircea_popescu: did you put a 1000 btc bet that Bitcoin would be worth more than Bershire? | [19:10] |
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LordPutin | thatpoor guy is going to loose 1000 btc :/ | [19:11] |
pizzaman1337 | matthew_boyd: "worth more than Berkshire" doesn't accurately describe the bet, at all: http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/ | [19:12] |
matthew_boyd | You get what I mean, I phased it poorly, I know. | [19:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4375 @ 0.00089437 = 3.9129 BTC [+] | [19:26] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07 = 0.14 BTC [+] | [19:30] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00089409 = 1.6094 BTC [-] | [19:38] |
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datz_ | hey | [19:51] |
datz_ | i run an crypto assets company. how can i get involved with assbot? | [19:53] |
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taub | get it listed in an exchange | [20:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00088834 = 6.4849 BTC [-] | [20:07] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 139 @ 0.00345 = 0.4796 BTC [+] | [20:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12738 @ 0.00089022 = 11.3396 BTC [+] {3} | [20:13] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00014999 = 0.15 BTC [+] {3} | [20:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00088777 = 8.1231 BTC [-] | [20:18] |
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mircea_popescu | datz_ there's a link on the website, check topic | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | holy shit... i go on twitter, "76 new interactions" | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | i've been interacted to all hell | [20:32] |
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mircea_popescu | copumpkin mircea h popescu | [20:42] |
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datz_ | how do we list on MPEX? | [20:43] |
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thestringpuller | lol | [20:45] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust datz_ | [20:46] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user datz_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=datz_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=datz_ | Rated since: never | [20:46] |
mircea_popescu | well, some trust would help. who are you ? | [20:46] |
datz_ | i run a company we want listed | [20:46] |
datz_ | that does crypto assets | [20:46] |
mircea_popescu | that's maybe what are you doing. who are you ? | [20:47] |
datz_ | CEO | [20:47] |
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mircea_popescu | this is going great so far. | [20:48] |
datz_ | i run https://peercover.com and sponsor http://openxrptalk.com | [20:49] |
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datz_ | we want to pay homage and do a funding round on MPEX | [20:49] |
Apocalyptic | you will find much XRP love around here | [20:50] |
datz_ | we do BTC/XRP/DOGE/NXT/ETH/PPC/NCM/AUR you name it | [20:50] |
datz_ | we have 5 additional people we need to hire | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | datz_ thats nice, but listing is purely a fiduciary exercise. you have to be trusted, for which you have to be known. so you know, spend a year reading the logs. | [20:53] |
datz_ | we have two exchanges, a betting platform, an insurance platform, an investment platform, a credit and wallet platform, a chat platform - all in one | [20:53] |
datz_ | i am well known | [20:54] |
copumpkin | yeah, this ain't glbse ya know | [20:54] |
datz_ | just don;t use IRC | [20:54] |
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datz_ | i built my own chat platforms - have no need for IRC | [20:54] |
copumpkin | datz_: IRC isn't about the platform, it's about who you find on it | [20:54] |
copumpkin | I've built my own chat programs but nobody is on them :P | [20:55] |
copumpkin | where else can I find someone like mircea_popescu? | [20:55] |
datz_ | the one guy i worked with used IRC stole 2.8 million XRP from me | [20:55] |
datz_ | so i don;t trust people on IRC | [20:55] |
mircea_popescu | sucks huh. | [20:55] |
Apocalyptic | how is that relevant ? | [20:55] |
copumpkin | hey, this guy I spoke to once pickpocketed me | [20:55] |
datz_ | why i don't use IRC or have trust here | [20:55] |
copumpkin | so I never talk to people in person anymore | [20:56] |
copumpkin | makes my work life difficult but I survive | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | and now for the hardest task of all : to attend to my 173 messages inbox, which so far all consist of "hey you're so cool!" | [20:56] |
copumpkin | lol | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | i hope you're jealous kakobrekla | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | im getting carpal over here just downloading all these cookies. | [20:56] |
copumpkin | mircea_popescu: please allow me to fellate you | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | copumpkin i guess it's kinda difficult for outsiders to realise just how deep, powerful and far reaching irc is. | [20:57] |
copumpkin | mircea_popescu: not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I actually do think it's a pretty great thing | [20:57] |
copumpkin | the tech is shit | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | no, i was being plain. shit or not shit, i'm here after all. | [20:58] |
copumpkin | yeah | [20:58] |
mircea_popescu | tcp/ip is shit for that matter. | [20:58] |
datz_ | ok darn so IRC is too cheeky and suspicious to let me list here. don't say i didn't offer you the opportunity. will just have to stick with my own decentralized exchange :) | [20:59] |
copumpkin | lol | [20:59] |
chetty | its the modern form of the gentlemans club :P | [20:59] |
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Apocalyptic | "decentralized exchange" // I guess this guy has it all | [20:59] |
copumpkin | he has his own chat platform, his own decentralized exchange | [21:00] |
copumpkin | never mind that nobody uses either of them, at least he can use them | [21:00] |
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mircea_popescu | lmao cheeky what ? | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | opporunity ? | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | dudes gotta come off their pipe. | [21:00] |
kakobrekla | i only got 173 less than you. | [21:04] |
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mircea_popescu | so guise, we need to sit together and come up with a strategy to attract more dudes who don't know who they are but suspect it may be ceo in this thing of ours. | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | i believe it's called adoption | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | or penetration, or something. | [21:05] |
copumpkin | mircea_popescu: I know what. I have this LLC I use for money laundering and it's super profitable. If you pay me 10k btc, I'll let you list it on your exchange. | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | has it been started 2 weeks ago through lying on a common bank application, all constructed on the basis of some material a website mailed you ? | [21:07] |
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copumpkin | omg you participate in that program too? | [21:07] |
copumpkin | dammit | [21:07] |
mircea_popescu | no this is a different one. | [21:07] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:5.153.234.66 | [21:09] |
ozbot | User talk:5.153.234.66 - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | sheeit. | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | dude come back | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | please ipo your wow character. | [21:10] |
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mircea_popescu | ” Despite its generally female-friendly environment, Horvath claims that she had “a really hard time getting used to the culture, the aggressive communication on pull requests and how little the men [she] worked with respected and valued [her] opinion.” | [21:17] |
mircea_popescu | dude how come every single obnoxious bitch out there imagines she's entitled to misrepresent her broken mental processes as "a problem of women everywhere" ? | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | women everywhere are emphatically not as stupid as her. | [21:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.067963 = 0.6796 BTC [-] {4} | [21:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00088771 = 7.6787 BTC [-] {2} | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | what's more, they're stupid in their own private personal ways, which differ from hers, even should she "feel" it's not fair that should be the case. | [21:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6105 = 1.221 BTC [-] {2} | [21:19] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.0902 = 0.451 BTC [+] {3} | [21:20] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.06813999 = 0.6814 BTC [+] {8} | [21:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05281003 = 0.1584 BTC [-] {2} | [21:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.11950724 BTC [-] | [21:23] |
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KRS-1 | .bait | [21:25] |
ozbot | http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3f4uf0YZb1qf0gljo1_500.jpg | [21:25] |
KRS-1 | This bait sucks. | [21:25] |
KRS-1 | Unsatisfactory .bait links lately. | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | http://31.media.tumblr.com/5baf1143cb19e88642fe6415d6df5549/tumblr_msaglaHUnU1raljz5o1_1280.jpg | [21:27] |
mircea_popescu | you're spoiled rotten is your problem. | [21:27] |
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sheldonthomas | ;;gettrust sheldonthomas | [21:29] |
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mircea_popescu | sheldonthomas trying to decide if you should trust yourself ? | [21:30] |
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sheldonthomas | yeah it's existential | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | it works better like this : | [21:39] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust copumpkin | [21:39] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user copumpkin: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 38 via 21 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=copumpkin | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=copumpkin | Rated since: Mon Jun 20 16:53:19 2011 | [21:39] |
KRS-1 | .bait | [21:39] |
ozbot | http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3qn7zfhOg1r7wy42o1_500.jpg | [21:39] |
copumpkin | w00t | [21:39] |
KRS-1 | whoa a sista | [21:40] |
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sheldonthomas | ;;gettrust mircea_popescu | [21:40] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user sheldonthomas to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=sheldonthomas&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 | [21:40] |
KRS-1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhsUFuqbCM | [21:40] |
ozbot | Velvet Revolver - Fall To Pieces - YouTube | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | basically it's a graph walker. as you're unconnected all your results will be 0 0 0 | [21:41] |
sheldonthomas | i hadn't seen that graphing function. very nice. i lost my gpg key i registered on otc from 2011 | [21:42] |
sheldonthomas | ;;book | [21:45] |
gribble | (book
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sheldonthomas | ;;book btcusd | [21:45] |
gribble | Error: No orders for this currency present in database. | [21:45] |
sheldonthomas | ;;book BTC | [21:46] |
gribble | Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit the web order book, http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?eitherthing=BTC to see list of orders for this item. | [21:46] |
sheldonthomas | ;;book USD | [21:46] |
gribble | Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit the web order book, http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?eitherthing=USD to see list of orders for this item. | [21:46] |
sheldonthomas | hey mircea where do i register a new keypair | [21:48] |
ThickAsThieves | i figured it out with zero experience | [21:51] |
ThickAsThieves | read | [21:51] |
ThickAsThieves | the wot link has links | [21:51] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;google bitcoin wot | [21:52] |
gribble | #bitcoin-otc: |
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thestringpuller | ThickAsThieves is a n00b with da cryptos | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | sheldonthomas http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication | [21:59] |
sheldonthomas | ;;gettrust sheldonthomas | [22:03] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask sheldonthomas!~sheldonth@207-38-147-49.c3-0.avec-ubr2.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcn.com. Trust relationship from user sheldonthomas to user sheldonthomas: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=sheldonthomas&dest=sheldonthomas | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sheldonthomas | Rated since: never | [22:03] |
sheldonthomas | boy that hostmask sure is revealing | [22:03] |
sheldonthomas | ;;get trust ThickAsThieves | [22:04] |
gribble | Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". | [22:04] |
sheldonthomas | ;;gettrust ThickAsThieves | [22:04] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask ThickAsThieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves. Trust relationship from user sheldonthomas to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=sheldonthomas&dest=ThickAsThieves | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ThickAsThieves | Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013 | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | you can do that in private with gribble too. | [22:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.0034895 = 0.15 BTC [+] | [22:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00088747 = 14.5989 BTC [-] {3} | [22:09] |
joecool | ;;ident gribble | [22:09] |
gribble | Nick 'gribble', with hostmask 'gribble!~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble', is not identified. | [22:09] |
joecool | it's a fake | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | faux gribble | [22:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12037 @ 0.00088553 = 10.6591 BTC [-] {2} | [22:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00088509 = 4.7795 BTC [-] | [22:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00088509 = 1.5489 BTC [-] | [22:27] |
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sheldonthomas | Isn't it advantageous to make small bets against large ones on bitbet, since regardless of what you believe the odds are, you are splitting a larger winning pool from the other side | [22:35] |
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Mats_cd03 | why dont you make a small wager against every large bet then | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | i didnt follow the logic of that. | [22:50] |
ThickAsThieves | depends on your goal sheldon | [22:53] |
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ThickAsThieves | obviously there is more to gain, but you can still lose 100% | [22:53] |
ThickAsThieves | however, if you feel the large bet is correct, like in this case of this BRK one | [22:53] |
ThickAsThieves | you'd want to bet both sides while the weight is in your favor | [22:54] |
ThickAsThieves | this assumes the No's won't ruin that weight | [22:54] |
ThickAsThieves | on your hedge bet | [22:54] |
ThickAsThieves | the expense to hedge being very cheap | [22:55] |
ThickAsThieves | when a bet is 1000:1 | [22:55] |
Mats_cd03 | dont grace that with a response, he cant be so dumb as to share a simplistic thought like that | [22:55] |
ThickAsThieves | a great phenomenon of this bet, is people thinking like him | [22:56] |
ThickAsThieves | they see it like a scratcher | [22:56] |
ThickAsThieves | sure i think btc will win! but dat odds! i'm willing to throw .001 against that! | [22:57] |
Mats_cd03 | its context dependent and if you cant handle high school probability you will be ignored by the universe | [22:57] |
ThickAsThieves | "Agreed. Looks good. But what I don't get is the huge jump to 41,734.95 in total earned BTC. | [22:59] |
ThickAsThieves | Is it caused by the acquisition of bit777 etc. or is this a mistake?" | [22:59] |
ThickAsThieves | "No - arithmetic error in the calculation. Fixed - thanks for point it out!" | [22:59] |
ThickAsThieves | lol | [22:59] |
Mats_cd03 | and occasionally having your wages garnished by things like the brk-a bet or slot machines because youre too stubborn to understand probabilities | [23:00] |
ThickAsThieves | after that pumper was here this morning claming CBTC would double in value, they issue a report saying they lost money | [23:01] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm offended that erik's reddit thread on the bet gets more shine than mine :( | [23:02] |
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Mats_cd03 | bad PR in erik's thread for mpoe | [23:03] |
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ThickAsThieves | "Hence why the bet is in bitcoins - zero risk for the better and something only an idiot would participate in. I'm sure buffet's seen this one before but most of the morons on this subreddit have not." | [23:06] |
ThickAsThieves | zero risk! | [23:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16218 @ 0.00088694 = 14.3844 BTC [+] {2} | [23:06] |
Mats_cd03 | i didnt realize until i read the trilema post that the brk-a bet originated from mp | [23:08] |
Mats_cd03 | i feel thats a missed pr opportunity | [23:09] |
ThickAsThieves | seriously? | [23:09] |
ThickAsThieves | i assumed immediately | [23:09] |
ThickAsThieves | he posts about the bet and elaborates, and people still think it's erik... | [23:10] |
ThickAsThieves | the originating reddit link points to mp's blog | [23:10] |
Mats_cd03 | the link with the most traffic points to bitbet | [23:11] |
ThickAsThieves | which boggles my mind | [23:13] |
ThickAsThieves | mine even has a better headline! | [23:13] |
ThickAsThieves | i guess i need to work on my brand | [23:14] |
ThickAsThieves | and jesushood | [23:14] |
Mats_cd03 | i'll perforate your hands for a small fee | [23:14] |
ThickAsThieves | sadly thats not enough these days | [23:15] |
ThickAsThieves | i'd need to start preaching and using words like community, decentralization, and such | [23:15] |
ThickAsThieves | sad that in order to be jesus one must sell their soul | [23:15] |
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mircea_popescu | Ansgar John @ErikVoorhees @WarrenBuffett @Mircea_Popescu a year is a much too short amount of time to say much. Bet him 15 years and he might take it. | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | Mircea Popescu And yet he publishes yearly statements. | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | Ansgar John which state the results 'in any given quarter or year are often meaningless. ' | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | Mircea Popescu Yes well, I once asked a married woman to my hotel room. She said no and yet showed up. | [23:18] |
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mircea_popescu | why do people have so much difficulty groiking the supremacy of action over speech is beyond me. | [23:18] |
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Mats_cd03 | because you can never win on the internet | [23:20] |
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mircea_popescu | o that. myeah. | [23:20] |
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mircea_popescu | Mar 05 03:06:20 |
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mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves lol epic that shit. "o we just arithmeticed 47k earned income. shoulda been in bitcents. oops" | [23:23] |
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Apocalyptic | sigh, but seems the PR move worked | [23:36] |
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mircea_popescu | lmao | [23:55] |
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mircea_popescu | clearly, bad pr and missed oportunities. | [23:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13784 @ 0.00088721 = 12.2293 BTC [+] | [23:56] |
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Hirethestache | Is there a bitbet authy here? | [23:56] |
mircea_popescu | what's an authy | [23:56] |
Hirethestache | authorized manager/admin | [23:57] |
Hirethestache | sorry, hah | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | myeah. | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | "Buffett, Bitcoin Bear, Believes Berkshire Better Bet Because Bitcoin's Bubble Bound to Burst" | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | seems tat created a... beast ? | [23:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 279 @ 0.00088959 = 0.2482 BTC [+] | [23:58] |
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mircea_popescu | btw guise : where to find people to make fiat related website for me? thanks. I want to build a website absolutely similar to obamacare. | [23:59] |
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