Forum logs for 14 Jul 2017
| asciilifeform: | 'dunno where's what in pygmylandia' != 'dun know that toilet dun plug into mains' | [00:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform chet had a screwdriver in her purse. with fittable heads. and a tiny one separately. | [00:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform but it IS cluelessness. | [00:01] |
| asciilifeform: | chet was from the era when people were people. | [00:01] |
| asciilifeform: | y'know, when chix flew biplanes over german lines and dropped frags | [00:02] |
| asciilifeform: | and died like men. | [00:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | was funny, too, with all the airports and shit. "is that a screwdriver ?" "yeah" "you can't take screwdrivers on the airplane!" "no, it's ok, see, it has fittable heads" "ah... uh... i see. well it's ok then." | [00:03] |
| BingoBoingo: | <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform but it IS cluelessness. << AHA, and it transforms it to more finessed cluelessness with actual education and practice. "Is this fasterner best attacked with ratchet, breaker bar, or impact gun" | [00:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i don't score cluelessness for stupidity. it's structured and self defending/perpetuating cluelessness that triggers. | [00:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | most of the girls had no idea eg, thermodynamics puts strict limits and firm relations between movement and energy, including as it pertains to their eating. or that all things that exist can be made and are in fact made. or how to evaluate anything, a distance, a cost, a length or a volume. or so on. | [00:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | they come out of it. | [00:17] |
| * BingoBoingo | scores it as indicator of environmental defect | [00:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | just had lulz on a walk with girl yest, in that we saw a larger than common cement mixer on a construction site, and i said it's they're normally like a coupla galon's worth, and she agreed, and then she guessed the present one at 30 and i said it's like 120 yeah and she was totally blown out, no way it's 120 galons ? no, liters. this girl, two years ago, misjudged the volume of a hangar she was physically present in by three | [00:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | degrees of magnitude and now found a 4x factor inconceivably off for an item half mile in the distance. | [00:19] |
| BingoBoingo: | Progress (actual sort!) not perfection, works while you work it | [00:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | quite exactly. the normal brain will retool if at all possible. | [00:22] |
| BingoBoingo: | This is why conversion therapy works. | [00:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | i've not found it to work in anyone but the young. | [00:25] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/426D6DCE7975B06B502ACEEFD67592401856611663D9997FEC743FEBAE1B507D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1358...7273 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '90.80.224.152 (ssh-rsa key from 90.80.224.152 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (152-224.80-90.static-ip.oleane.fr. FR) | [00:26] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/426D6DCE7975B06B502ACEEFD67592401856611663D9997FEC743FEBAE1B507D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1607...5277 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '90.80.224.152 (ssh-rsa key from 90.80.224.152 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (152-224.80-90.static-ip.oleane.fr. FR) | [00:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | very active phuctor these days huh | [00:26] |
| BingoBoingo: | I've seen it work in the old, but then again looking different places. | [00:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | In old requires substantial desperation | [00:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | And still more substantial resignation | [00:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, it leaves sechellae. | [00:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose different definitions of work | [00:28] |
| asciilifeform: | https://youtu.be/DBmQ7Vbl42Y?t=1m17s << in other educationals. | [00:29] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well, there are different degrees of works | [00:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya | [00:34] |
| BingoBoingo: | Daily repreive contingent on maintaining one's spiritual health works when discussion 60 year old alcoholic crack addicts who have more than half a decade of continuous sobriety. | [00:35] |
| BingoBoingo: | Seems to count as works | [00:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | but they can't go into a bar and have a drink. | [00:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | my ex-dumb sluts CAN go into a whatever, starbux, and have a chat with their ex-peers. | [00:36] |
| * BingoBoingo | suspects there's less physical pathology in the ex-dumb | [00:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | which was the original point here, started with alf's recoil. | [00:38] |
| * BingoBoingo | just likes dropping "conversion therapy works" bomb in log for the point that it is toxic to socialists | [00:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | a is it ? | [00:41] |
| BingoBoingo: | It doesn't feed Inca is one point where it is toxic, but the other point I observe is people when recovering appear to become more ideologically sane as part of transformation. | [00:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | well thats a given. | [00:47] |
| BingoBoingo: | This makes them more resistant to socialistoid indoctrination. This is why pantsuit loves people smoking the funky green shit. | [00:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | Not occasionally, but habitually | [00:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | Nothing better for pantsuit demographics than brain numbed stoners | [00:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | fo sho | [00:50] |
| BingoBoingo: | For every functional, sane, moderate using danielpbarron there are many more who become chemically demotivated and endumbed | [00:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | im sure. | [00:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | popularily known as flock of seagulls. | [00:59] |
| deedbot: | http://qntra.net/2017/07/harvard-faculty-seek-to-restrict-voluntary-student-participation-in-off-campus-associations/ << Qntra - Harvard Faculty Seek To Restrict Voluntary Student Participation In Off Campus Associations | [01:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmao. that's legal now ? | [01:34] |
| BingoBoingo: | Who cares about Law at Harvard? | [01:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | ikr. | [01:35] |
| BingoBoingo: | Surely not alumni Hussein Bahamas | [01:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | inb4 somebody comes up with the idea of forbidding black students in missouri from involvement with the dnc. | [01:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | "pantsuitardation. not even once." | [01:35] |
| BingoBoingo: | Hopefully this is an indicator that we are moving into a lulzier part of 2017 | [01:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't see how we could not. | [01:39] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8295 << More Law'ls | [01:49] |
| deedbot: | http://qntra.net/2017/07/surveillance-videos-of-mass-attack-on-bart-train-withheld-in-the-name-of-bias-prevention/ << Qntra - Surveillance Videos Of Mass Attack On BART Train Withheld In The Name Of Bias Prevention | [02:09] |
| BingoBoingo: | Congratulations to whaack on his successful submission to Qntra! | [02:11] |
| whaack: | why shux ty | [02:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahahaha nice. | [02:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | what do the brits need their own brains for anyway. off with their heads, miserable half-man species. | [02:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | if that isn't an occupation government, what exactly would constitute one ? | [02:17] |
| BingoBoingo: | BART isn't Brits, it is "Bay Area 'Rapid' Transit" | [02:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh isn't it british assrape something ? my bad then! | [02:26] |
| BingoBoingo: | So presumably raid was less Raperham and more Ferguson | [02:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is shockingly enough even more retarded. what will the inference be, that a buncha azns did it ? | [02:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | But it could have also been good at math or owned all the property. | [02:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | lol, I typed too slow | [02:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | those fucking pinoy man, always gangsta and shit. | [02:28] |
| BingoBoingo: | lol, just wait till those Hmong find the internet | [02:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, samoans. | [02:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | those are the worst. leberworst. | [02:29] |
| BingoBoingo: | Samoans aren't azn, too big and wrestler stereotyped | [02:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | if samoans aren't azn then why are the japanese azn ? | [02:30] |
| BingoBoingo: | Because the japanese don't want to be azn as evidenced by the white skin, blue eyes, and blond hair when they draw themselves as cartoons. | [02:32] |
| whaack: | peehaps there are no recordings, and many of the alleged "cameras" are made of cardboard to keep cattle in check | [02:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [02:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | whaack not even so far off, after the huge camcraze of the 2000s washed by and the costs began to mount many places started just running loops of a few days and such | [02:33] |
| BingoBoingo: | brb, sleep | [02:33] |
| shinohai: | "shwifteey described FUCK token as the new Dogecoin," >>> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/evd5je/an-ethereum-token-called-fuck-raised-dollar30000-in-30-minutes | [09:07] |
| BingoBoingo: | !~ticker --market all | [09:42] |
| jhvh1: | BingoBoingo: BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2251.65, vol: 3012.33826 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2273.0, vol: 17874.92457231 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2325.842288, vol: 7348.12240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2285.287, vol: 5359.70954282 | Volume-weighted last average: 2284.60386455 | [09:42] |
| mod6: | mornin' | [10:17] |
| shinohai: | Buenas Dias mod6 | [10:18] |
| mod6: | Buenas Dias, Sr. shinohai | [10:21] |
| mod6: | :] | [10:21] |
| asciilifeform: | in other noose, the 'china must be colonized for 300 years to become civilized' solzhederp finally croaked | [11:09] |
| asciilifeform: | ( liu xiaobo ) | [11:09] |
| asciilifeform: | was thrown in the clink after accepting, iirc, 600k $ from usg , and then 'peace nobel' | [11:13] |
| asciilifeform: | torrent of tears from all orifices of 'our demoocracy' today, re subj. | [11:14] |
| asciilifeform: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-14-jul-2017#2308709 << british anal re-education temple | [11:19] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 06:26 mircea_popescu: oh isn't it british assrape something ? my bad then! | [11:19] |
| asciilifeform: | !!up freeuser420 | [12:30] |
| deedbot: | freeuser420 voiced for 30 minutes. | [12:30] |
| Framedragger: | [PSA, framedraggerish duties to resume soon and answers to irc pings to come (country move done nao, much win). talk soon] | [12:39] |
| Framedragger: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1683167 << will do | [12:40] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-13 23:51 mircea_popescu: Framedragger do me the favour and check if scriba has somewhere on disk a copy of the above tardstalk link content saved ? | [12:40] |
| asciilifeform: | wb Framedragger | [12:41] |
| Framedragger: | ty asciilifeform :) | [12:43] |
| Framedragger: | mircea_popescu is this the link in question? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1683142 | [12:43] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-13 23:30 hanbot: andreicon> do share if you have link, pls >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.msg1167765 | [12:43] |
| Framedragger: | if so, only thing scriba has is -- not a local copy, but a note of link being successfully archived, and link to archive => | [12:44] |
| Framedragger: | !$getarchive https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.msg1167765 | [12:44] |
| scriba: | Previously archived URL: http://archive.is/nQLP9 (this was archived by scriba: yes) | [12:44] |
| Framedragger: | but i'll catch up on log, may be missing (lots of) context | [12:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | Framedragger incidentally, as it just finally occured to me -- are you married, to a romanian girl ? | [12:45] |
| Framedragger: | hahaha NO | [12:46] |
| asciilifeform: | lol should he be ? | [12:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaand trinque, incidentally, as it just occured to me -- can you get deedbot payments online by the end of the month ? seems somewhat likely usg is gonna turn off its "webwallet" bullshits from blockchain.info down. | [12:47] |
| Framedragger: | i'm sure mp has some weird probabilistic intel hahaha | [12:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform no no, just, two different people telling me you know, a story that sorta was converging. i'm like... no fucking way! | [12:47] |
| Framedragger: | hehe :) | [12:47] |
| * Framedragger | bbl, washing up from german fatty food | [12:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | total shot in teh dark. | [12:48] |
| * asciilifeform | pictures Framedragger on a pile of sausages | [12:48] |
| Framedragger: | basically. | [12:48] |
| * mircea_popescu | kinda misses proper leberwurst | [12:48] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2948A9C44E91DA3E33AB76F8E300E280318F98B9D533CB0C15DCFB68F28154BC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1518...8989 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '193.179.171.126 (ssh-rsa key from 193.179.171.126 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (pv.cm-sec.cz. CZ) | [12:48] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2948A9C44E91DA3E33AB76F8E300E280318F98B9D533CB0C15DCFB68F28154BC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1626...1869 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '193.179.171.126 (ssh-rsa key from 193.179.171.126 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (pv.cm-sec.cz. CZ) | [12:48] |
| asciilifeform: | lol: 'CM security system s.r.o. | [12:49] |
| asciilifeform: | Komplexní řešení zabezpečení objektů' | [12:49] |
| asciilifeform: | didjaknow! | [12:49] |
| asciilifeform: | hey jurov!111 | [12:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683479 << a fake news 2nd tier outlet failed to understand how cryptocurrency works 10 years after "covering" it, still imagines sending a trillion tokens for a trip in your wallet amounts to something. | [12:50] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 13:07 shinohai: "shwifteey described FUCK token as the new Dogecoin," >>> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/evd5je/an-ethereum-token-called-fuck-raised-dollar30000-in-30-minutes | [12:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform lmao y u so troll | [12:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683486 << seems it worked with 30 years of self-colonisation. about the same it took russia, also (i vaguely recall equivalent notion there a century ago) | [12:51] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 15:09 asciilifeform: in other noose, the 'china must be colonized for 300 years to become civilized' solzhederp finally croaked | [12:51] |
| asciilifeform: | jeszcze Česká nie zginela!111 | [12:51] |
| asciilifeform: | self-colonization lol | [12:52] |
| asciilifeform: | ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-04#1119717 ) | [12:53] |
| a111: | Logged on 2015-05-04 18:40 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: this is actually the historic ru model of development, once termed 'colonialism with crown as the sole european' | [12:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683501 >> that is the link in question, yes. it's be tremendously useful if it also had a copy of http://archive.is/download/nQLP9.zip stored somewhere. | [12:53] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 16:44 Framedragger: if so, only thing scriba has is -- not a local copy, but a note of link being successfully archived, and link to archive => | [12:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform whatd you call what they did ? | [12:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. | [12:53] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: petro-pipereich | [12:53] |
| asciilifeform: | a la saud. | [12:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | it is, actually, the german model. that's how they modernized. | [12:53] |
| asciilifeform: | ru hasn't modernized. pipeized. | [12:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | and then the japanese copied it. to also great success. which is why both japan and russia allied with germany. | [12:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | the simple country boy is loyal, the problem is the town boy is nutty. | [12:54] |
| asciilifeform: | last proper modernizer of ru was old man iosif vissarionovich. | [12:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yes, that's exactly what we're discussing, ru went 1910-1940 about same way china went 1975-2005. | [12:54] |
| asciilifeform: | then yes! | [12:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. | [12:55] |
| asciilifeform: | i was reading 'today', and wtf'd | [12:55] |
| asciilifeform: | but then -- very muchly yes. | [12:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | so - germany, first. then japan. upon jealous consideration of japan, russia. these tried to actually band together and strangle anglotardism once and for all. they fucked it up, like the idiots they are. | [12:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | finally, after mature consideration, china. and my money's not on the anglotards. | [12:56] |
| trinque: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683508 << I'll start chopping things down and aim for it, yes. | [12:57] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 16:47 mircea_popescu: aaand trinque, incidentally, as it just occured to me -- can you get deedbot payments online by the end of the month ? seems somewhat likely usg is gonna turn off its "webwallet" bullshits from blockchain.info down. | [12:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool deal. | [12:57] |
| shinohai: | All signs point to this .... blockchain.info is added as DNS seed for segwit2x in recent commits on shithub | [12:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | would have been great if we had a service that had already been open, tested and could be advertised but it'll be useful even to have it new, not like the dorks have much memory or mental consideration space anyway. | [13:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile on reddit, http://68.media.tumblr.com/819174ba7f70638a0c21c2e9083a8ade/tumblr_nw6j1v2Pug1ubttx2o1_400.gif | [13:01] |
| asciilifeform: | lol dns seeds | [13:03] |
| asciilifeform: | i nearly forgot that this existed. | [13:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | you probably also forgot shitwater existed. easy to forget if you're not served it every day. | [13:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | and in other lulz, https://68.media.tumblr.com/cfe04343bcc6cbd71ede67255146fdc6/tumblr_ot3c4gShzL1wuktzvo1_1280.jpg | [13:20] |
| shinohai: | Couldn't fault MP for wanting to initial dat | [13:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | mp had nothin' to do with it! | [13:22] |
| asciilifeform: | in other lullomatics, asciilifeform found a trivial 2x speedup for ffa exp | [13:24] |
| asciilifeform: | sometimes i wonder if anybody actually reads these things. | [13:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | only compute half the bits ? | [13:24] |
| asciilifeform: | mno. | [13:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | "and thus they bid farewell to carnal dishes and solid meats, and highly spiced ragouts to live for fortry days on ill-dresses fishes, because they add no sauces to their stews." | [13:31] |
| phf: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683186 << traveling salesman has approximate solution strategies. besides in this case there's additional complexity of upper limit on travel distance, which is also constantly changing. so if your maximum distance is above shortest path, then you want tsp, but if it's below then you probably have to rely on nearest neighbor/nearest fragment heuristics anyway | [14:05] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 00:56 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682609 << isn't this literally the travelling salesman ? what moving parts, it's known-hard. | [14:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf but necessarily you won't have a closed form solution to an ill defined class of a known hard problem. | [14:05] |
| phf: | of course, but does that mean i should completely abandon the problem? | [14:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | not at all. but -- adjust your expectations :D | [14:06] |
| phf: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683203 << glider specifically. you drop a glider from a balloon, you have known altitude, air foil and weight, you can figure out maximum distance, but that one's constantly changing, which you can track from rate of descent vs distance traveled. your drop point is also random because of the balloon drift, but it's somewhere around sites of interest | [14:09] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 01:14 mircea_popescu: i thought he was doing a plane thing | [14:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | for instance : if i were solving this for military purposes i would have the machine list all targets it can visit such that it can still reach one landing spot, and then choose one to visit RANDOMLY. this offers some very strong guarantees : a) each machine will touch one target b) the algo can be recursed at ANY point (such as power failure) c) if you make a fleet of them you get coverage at no communication expense. | [14:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose this being what you meant by moving parts. | [14:10] |
| phf: | :) | [14:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | undiscovered externalities moar like it. | [14:10] |
| phf: | well, your basic algorithm is nearest neighbor, but then you can assign random weights to sites of interest, to ensure that different machines prioritize different walks (even if they get dropped from same location) | [14:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | fwiw balloon-glider is a solution to this problem in the sense straight razor and barber's bowl is a solution to flebotomy. it does work, as it did long ago, but it does also kinda ignore the more recent past. | [14:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you are destroying the targets the solution is rocket engine, which by now are cheap and easy to make. if you are merely diddling the target the solution is flying lawnmower. (although if you only want to do it monentarily, such as picture taking as opposed to eg van ecking the solution really is satellite). | [14:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | glider bs is ww2 reich wunderwaffen (and i hope you read german for they did explore this to death) | [14:16] |
| phf: | well, it's certainly silly to put all this complicated electronics on a device that would be trivial to also make self-propellent | [14:18] |
| phf: | but without having necessary craftsmen immediately available, it's hard to make fast progress. | [14:19] |
| phf: | i mean, the hackerspaces told me that it's "too hard", but they've been launching the same weather balloons with a camera for payload for like years now. literally a highschool project | [14:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | but that said, a large baloon with a string of gliders underneath that detach bottom first like some sort of strange technofruit losing its seeds like some sort of anemochorious epiphyte. | [14:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | would be one hell of an art item, steampunk or no steampunk | [14:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course for maximal artsy i'd make your gliders asymmetrical. give it some nutty spin. | [14:21] |
| phf: | hah, make them talk over radio to do a distributed coordination for tps | [14:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf i dunno what you've been doing with your life to this point, but let me point out to you in no certain terms that adjusting what you do by what's available is the child's lot. | [14:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you need engine people get 'em, don't redesign around 'em. | [14:22] |
| phf: | how do your attempts to source graphics artists in argentina fit into that? | [14:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | i was mostly looking for sluts. | [14:23] |
| asciilifeform: | and where's my 8192bit cpu!11 | [14:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's the problem with me, i'm seldom actually doing what i'm say i'm doing. | [14:25] |
| phf: | hah, well, this project has similar pedigree! | [14:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform i thought you were making it | [14:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf lel. found anything good ? | [14:25] |
| andreicon: | good evening | [14:26] |
| andreicon: | haha mp, you an me both | [14:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf for my curiosity, don't you find it to work better when the girl's looking for them ? | [14:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | andreicon sorry, i and you both what ? | [14:26] |
| andreicon: | seldomly do what we think of doing | [14:27] |
| andreicon: | i'd rather train others to carry out tasks on my behalf | [14:27] |
| andreicon: | speaking of which | [14:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | how old are you andreicon ? | [14:27] |
| andreicon: | i've coded a bot in js that would voice me when i ask it | [14:27] |
| andreicon: | haha | [14:27] |
| andreicon: | haven't i told you? | [14:28] |
| andreicon: | i don't know how to search the logs yet | [14:28] |
| shinohai: | js + crypto, what could go wrong? | [14:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | i've no recollection of it. | [14:28] |
| andreicon: | haha shinohai | [14:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | !#s haha\ | [14:28] |
| a111: | 0 results for "haha\\", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=haha%5C | [14:28] |
| andreicon: | i'm passing the decrypt to gpg on the os | [14:28] |
| andreicon: | okay, thx | [14:28] |
| andreicon: | rtfm on my part | [14:28] |
| andreicon: | i'm 29 | [14:28] |
| andreicon: | am i allowed to use a bot to get voiced here? | [14:30] |
| andreicon: | it'll run on an azure instance, only respond to me and have its own pubkey registered with deedbot | [14:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're allowed to to whatever the hell you please, at least for now. | [14:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, why do you think you've got something to train others ? | [14:31] |
| andreicon: | not as of yet, i'm still getting my shit together | [14:31] |
| andreicon: | but soon | [14:32] |
| andreicon: | docker swarm + an army of webservers + w3 + truffle | [14:32] |
| phf: | mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure we've even had that conversation before, re girls looking for girls | [14:32] |
| andreicon: | hopefully i'll have something to sell for mETH | [14:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf possibly. | [14:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | andreicon glty. | [14:33] |
| andreicon: | you want mETH too? | [14:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. notrly. | [14:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess there's a lot of new things in the world for you huh :) | [14:34] |
| andreicon: | not necessarily new, just a few things i haven't tried | [14:34] |
| andreicon: | and with the advent of technology, it's now easy to put x and y together and get something exciting | [14:35] |
| andreicon: | kinda like btc | [14:35] |
| andreicon: | pow was years old | [14:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | the advent of technology huh. | [14:35] |
| andreicon: | easy access to the same technology* | [14:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | do you mean microsoft windows and javascript ? | [14:37] |
| diana_coman: | andreicon> not necessarily new, just a few things i haven't tried <- the not-exciting ones? | [14:37] |
| andreicon: | srsly, do you think that's all there is to me? | [14:37] |
| andreicon: | windows and js? | [14:38] |
| andreicon: | Linux andrei 4.11.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.11.6-1 (2017-06-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux | [14:38] |
| andreicon: | i admit, i'm deep in microshit at work | [14:38] |
| andreicon: | i find it challenging dealing with the politics, windows degrades itself | [14:39] |
| shinohai: | !#s Debianized | [14:39] |
| a111: | 28 results for "Debianized", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=Debianized | [14:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman amusingly enough, i recall a few... dozen moments of this "advent of technology" spring. like you know, Коммунизм = советская власть + электрификация всей страны. | [14:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | andreicon the illusion of "~easy~ access to ~same~ technology" is universally and i find without exception the macula of the modern slave. | [14:40] |
| andreicon: | :)) who coined that term? | [14:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | just as the black worker on the plantation thought he is a slave because god made him stupid just so the redditard of today thinks he has easy equal access to everything. | [14:40] |
| phf: | ^ http://club.foto.ru/classics/images/photos/pr/1539.jpg | [14:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf word. | [14:40] |
| andreicon: | i don't think i have ~equal~ access | [14:41] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, eh, that's history aka dead things aka things that never even existed 'cause dead, hence... old exciting is dead, on to the new exciting | [14:41] |
| trinque: | check out that guy's hipster garb they even wear the same clothes | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | andreicon that's what "same" means dunnit. | [14:41] |
| shinohai: | lol trinque | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | trinque back then the gray was soot. it's apparently antiseptic and anti-stenkik. | [14:41] |
| shinohai: | Am I to presume the pockmarked face = smallpox? | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty much | [14:42] |
| andreicon: | mircea_popescu: by ~same~ i meant not new but recycled | [14:43] |
| andreicon: | i mean sha256 and ripemd160 were already available, just hacked into doing something else | [14:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | andreicon yet consider : when the pantsuited hilarity was aiming to somehow establish herself as actually real and existent as opposed to merely imaginary fiction (in the face of trump's onslaught) her argument was ... "i was in the situation room!!!". she was saying, basically, that while she formally appears a redditard like any other, let them not forget that nevertheless she has... priviledged access to... special technol | [14:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | ogies. | [14:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | that was the whole thing. that's all she had to communicate, when all is said and done. | [14:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | so what are you talking about ? | [14:44] |
| andreicon: | then some russki said she runs win2003 on her exchange server and from there it all went to shit | [14:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | mno. | [14:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | the time when people with better access to superior technologies ruined her inept shit precedes this event. | [14:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | (ie yes, the boneheaded fucktard is also incapable of learning from her own experience, but whatever, it's what the us politruk class is all about) | [14:46] |
| andreicon: | so she thought she had the same shit everyone else had | [14:47] |
| andreicon: | she couldn't possibly lose | [14:47] |
| andreicon: | but then it turns out there's hidden tech, some stuff you never knew existed | [14:47] |
| andreicon: | i'm not willing to be a public face for that | [14:48] |
| andreicon: | :)) | [14:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | mkay. | [14:48] |
| andreicon: | yea, i'm a skiddie | [14:48] |
| andreicon: | most likely, that's the first thing that comes to mind | [14:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | not specifically. that was mostly a 90s item, resulting from the uneven development of broadband and the uneasy interaction between society and internet. | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | a sort of soviet cultural worker if you will. | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | taught the masses their chief marketable skill of today -- the copy/paste. | [14:49] |
| andreicon: | but is that not a skill? | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | it is. | [14:49] |
| andreicon: | it's actually a trait, you have it or you don't | [14:49] |
| andreicon: | you adapt or get bent | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | women are better equipped than you are to adapt in this sense. plus it self-lubricates. | [14:50] |
| andreicon: | :)) | [14:50] |
| andreicon: | they still have years of catching up to do | [14:51] |
| andreicon: | the vast majority | [14:51] |
| andreicon: | i do agree, they have an accelerated pace | [14:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know what a system of reference is, in physics ? | [14:51] |
| shinohai: | For those that *don't* self-lubricate, its helpful to be a purveyor of astroglide. | [14:51] |
| andreicon: | but let's win this while we're ahead | [14:52] |
| andreicon: | 'course | [14:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | tell me ? | [14:52] |
| andreicon: | damn be the theoretical definition | [14:52] |
| andreicon: | *ed | [14:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | ... | [14:52] |
| andreicon: | a body or a system of bodies | [14:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | if your definition includes an or it is not a definition. | [14:54] |
| andreicon: | okay, i don't know the formal definition | [14:54] |
| andreicon: | *sigh* | [14:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | look here : in physics (which is a practical matter), you can have such a thing as a set with a measure and yet thereby not obtain an ordering. in mathematics, your ring (set + idempotent/unit items) also thereby has an ordering. | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is your error here : when you say "they still have years of catching up to do" you imagine a theoretical construct that has no bearing to reality. just because you're far away doesn't mean you're far ahead. as it happens, you aren't, western women will survive much better than western men. | [14:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | as per tradition. | [14:56] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683606 << ahahahahaha | [14:57] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 18:27 andreicon: i've coded a bot in js that would voice me when i ask it | [14:57] |
| andreicon: | i'm only observing my surroundings | [14:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course. | [14:57] |
| asciilifeform: | !#s reactor rods | [14:57] |
| a111: | 9 results for "reactor rods", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=reactor%20rods | [14:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform it's a journey, huh. | [14:57] |
| andreicon: | okay, "by hand" tells the whole story | [14:57] |
| andreicon: | :)) | [14:58] |
| andreicon: | i'm essentially putting a trapdoor in my door | [14:58] |
| andreicon: | it ain't easy being lazy | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | gotta start somewhere. | [14:59] |
| andreicon: | lazy alone leads to certain death | [14:59] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683634 << the picture that invites itself is that 1890s drunken d00d putting the two wires together | [14:59] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 18:35 andreicon: and with the advent of technology, it's now easy to put x and y together and get something exciting | [14:59] |
| asciilifeform: | ... he certainly Got Something Exciting. | [14:59] |
| andreicon: | a debate? | [15:00] |
| andreicon: | sparking up a talk is always exciting | [15:00] |
| asciilifeform: | kzzzbzzpt. | [15:00] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683652 << lol лампочка ильича (tm)(r)!!! | [15:01] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 18:40 phf: ^ http://club.foto.ru/classics/images/photos/pr/1539.jpg | [15:01] |
| asciilifeform: | and, oblig, http://citramon.net/uploads/images/00/00/02/2014/11/16/f0a62f.jpg . | [15:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahahaha | [15:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform you saw my series of lulzlenins ? | [15:03] |
| asciilifeform: | http://ixbt.photo/?id=photo:1161014 also. | [15:03] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: dun think so | [15:03] |
| andreicon: | i'm baffled | [15:04] |
| andreicon: | i actually don't know how to react :)) | [15:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2009/lenin-in-imagini/ | [15:04] |
| shinohai: | It happens andreicon .... sensory overload happens at first. | [15:05] |
| trinque: | andreicon: what's this :)) about anyway, trying to flirt with someone? | [15:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | trinque he's trying not to be hostile. | [15:05] |
| andreicon: | i'm actually trying not to defend myself too much | [15:06] |
| andreicon: | i know why i may be under a microscope | [15:06] |
| andreicon: | looked down on by a very skeptical observer | [15:06] |
| andreicon: | not why. | [15:06] |
| andreicon: | that* | [15:06] |
| trinque: | the skeptical observers are good for your noggin. | [15:07] |
| andreicon: | but i'm not living with the impression that i know too much | [15:07] |
| andreicon: | or anything at all | [15:07] |
| andreicon: | i came here to learn | [15:07] |
| andreicon: | possibly follow a wave of trendsetters | [15:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | andreicon dun stress out, it'll be okay. | [15:08] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683618 << 'at your age, sergei lazo was already circling around the locomotive!' | [15:08] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 18:28 andreicon: i'm 29 | [15:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [15:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | and gengis was what, getting lipstick rainbows on his tiny dick from austrian "students" ? | [15:10] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [15:11] |
| andreicon: | yea, and mihai the great was 9 when he first ruled | [15:11] |
| trinque: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683212 | [15:11] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 01:21 mircea_popescu: trinque "face up, make your stand, and realise you're living in the golden years". fucking said it outright, also. | [15:11] |
| trinque: | alexander had conquered his known world also, eh? | [15:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaaand caesar was weeping at his grave for being too old to matter. | [15:12] |
| trinque: | lol | [15:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | not to mention, a minor bureaucrat with maxed out credit cards | [15:12] |
| andreicon: | guys, running out of juice, be back in 3 hrs. read ya later | [15:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | (tru story) | [15:12] |
| andreicon: | sad story | [15:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform incidentally that line sounds SO very odessan. | [15:12] |
| trinque: | andreicon: nothing sad about the towering achievements of better men, aside one's own narcissism | [15:13] |
| trinque: | or if sad's your thing, that's fine too | [15:13] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: lolyes | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | trinque young Martial walks into the office of the Odessan Poet Combine, explains to the man at the desk behind the typerwiter that he wants to be a poet. "are you sad, young man ?" "no." "then what do you want ?!" | [15:15] |
| trinque: | lol | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform and since i'm doing ancient trilemas, here : http://trilema.com/2011/marea-afacere-cu-tuns-iarba/ re lawn mowing! | [15:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got errything! | [15:36] |
| asciilifeform: | iirc there was an english of this also | [15:38] |
| asciilifeform: | or at least the last para | [15:38] |
| asciilifeform: | the one about 'beelzebub put them upon the green earth to work to death' or how it went | [15:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | thius is the one yea. | [15:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dun think it ever was in english | [15:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course now i can't find the whole classification. do you recall where it sez there's two types, the type that prices her cunt to work and the type that prices it to not work ? | [15:42] |
| asciilifeform: | not immediately | [15:42] |
| asciilifeform: | but sounds quite familiar. | [15:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | i need a divine oracle already. | [15:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://trilema.com/2010/romanul-si-comertul/#selection-59.0-63.644 << here it is. | [15:48] |
| asciilifeform: | in other lulz, folx pumping MBs of liquishit into snsa shop POST form | [15:50] |
| asciilifeform: | because totally does sumthing. | [15:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | any encrypted yet ? | [15:55] |
| asciilifeform: | 0 | [15:55] |
| asciilifeform: | phpolade | [15:56] |
| trinque: | it's the fuzz! | [15:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | aand in other wtf, i just ran into an unexpected wall. | [16:10] |
| asciilifeform: | lolwut | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform do you know of any russian item more or less like здреанца ? | [16:11] |
| asciilifeform: | nein | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | well here's the beauty of it : this item does exist in russian, according to romanians. | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~google "davai zdreanta, desdemona" | [16:11] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: Raw - Kakaia surpriza bre Desdemona . Davai zdreanta . | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fid%3D1424556087784473%26story_fbid%3D1694590317447714> Chemarea Nordului (26): Davai zdreanţa , Desdemona ! | explorish.ro: <https://explorish.ro/2008/08/01/chemarea-nordului-26-davai-zdreanta-desdemona/> Cacaia zdreanța? - Jurnal de Dambovita: (1 more message) | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't mean, it exists a little. i mean it exists like sevastopol. | [16:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | how do you say hankerchief besides batista ? | [16:12] |
| asciilifeform: | платок? | [16:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [16:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | you understand an entire people hallucinated a whole fucking etymological line in a neighbour's language ? | [16:14] |
| asciilifeform: | wouldn't be the 1st time | [16:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | but for no gain! just out of sheer wtf , boredom ? | [16:14] |
| asciilifeform: | evidently | [16:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | nuts. | [16:16] |
| asciilifeform: | my dictionary suggests that it is a rag, not a handkerchief ? | [16:17] |
| phf: | apparently the complete form is "davai zdreanta, desdemona! -- kakoy zdreanta, otela, blya??" | [16:19] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [16:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [16:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform did you find it ? | [16:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | i thought rag is tryapka | [16:19] |
| asciilifeform: | right | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf are you proposing this is merely kishinev nonsense ? | [16:20] |
| asciilifeform: | so that'd be yer word then | [16:20] |
| asciilifeform: | oblig: 'Штирлиц встал утром спозаранку и отодрал на окне занавеску. Он не знал, что Позаранку и Занавеску были румынскими разведчицами...' | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaahahahahaa | [16:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | just ftr : Штирлиц should properly be shtirlits. | [16:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | for everyone else : занавеску (zanavesku) is how you say curtain but the esku final sounds exactly like the romanian name thing, pop-escu. | [16:23] |
| asciilifeform: | занавеска, ->у because she's getting it | [16:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes yes. | [16:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | dream on, shtrliboviz. | [16:24] |
| phf: | asciilifeform: i used to try and clarify the inflection, but then realized that it's mostly meaningless for the anglophones. so however much it grates, | [16:29] |
| phf: | "zanavesku is how you say curtain" is probably the correct method | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | he was intimating someone besides ro army conquered odessa! | [16:30] |
| asciilifeform: | hey they're (surprise..) people too, can in fact learn human languages | [16:30] |
| asciilifeform: | asciilifeform's pet is doing pretty well with ru | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's all political i tell you! | [16:30] |
| phf: | asciilifeform: same here! but not for genpop | [16:31] |
| asciilifeform: | we have a genpop?! | [16:31] |
| * asciilifeform | had nfi it were there, waves to it | [16:31] |
| phf: | the elusive Reader of The Logs, you know nsa agents. don't want them to stress too much | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | political!!! | [16:31] |
| asciilifeform: | poor darlings | [16:32] |
| asciilifeform: | what happened to 'learn langs even if you gotta hang upside down, like odin' | [16:32] |
| phf: | just doing my part in making the logs inclusive AND gender neutral | [16:32] |
| mod6: | can anyone confirm if 14! is 144C3B2800 in hex? | [17:30] |
| mod6: | 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000144C3B2800 | [17:30] |
| mod6: | i guess online tools say that's correct. neat. | [17:31] |
| phf: | !!up candi_lustt | [17:36] |
| deedbot: | candi_lustt voiced for 30 minutes. | [17:36] |
| phf: | !W (DEFUN FACTORIAL (N &OPTIONAL (ACC 1)) (IF (<= N 1) ACC (FACTORIAL (- N 1) (* ACC N)))) | [17:37] |
| candi_lustt: | phf: FACTORIAL | [17:37] |
| phf: | !W (format nil "~x" (factorial 14)) | [17:37] |
| candi_lustt: | phf: 144C3B2800 | [17:37] |
| mod6: | !W (format ni "~x" (factorial 256)) | [17:37] |
| candi_lustt: | mod6: error, see: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cbecy/?raw=true | [17:37] |
| mod6: | !W (format nil "~x" (factorial 256)) | [17:38] |
| candi_lustt: | mod6: FF578F57C15BB743BEAA77D27637E02B598DFFA9AEBD15889187FE6EB3BDCA516C3FA1A52EABEF31F33B4B8C2E5B5524F1AA4F3329393912F40DBBE23D7F39723E0BE05B6696B11F8EEA0ABE365A11D9F2735AC7E5B4E015AB19B35B84893685B37A9A0A62A566D6571D7E00D4241687F5C804F37CDE9BF311C0781F51CC007C5A01A94F6CFCECEA640B8E9AB7BD43E73E5DF5D0E1EEB4D9B6CC44BE67B7CAD80808B17869561B579FFE0BBDECA5C83139E458000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 | [17:38] |
| mod6: | okiedokie, i get the same thing. | [17:40] |
| mod6: | thanks phf! | [17:40] |
| mod6: | 100ms | [17:41] |
| asciilifeform: | mod6: on what ? | [18:01] |
| BingoBoingo: | OMG, Reddit has a hard on for the Stasi's insistance Alphabay victim found by his captors hanged https://archive.is/UJETj | [18:05] |
| BingoBoingo: | <mircea_popescu> of course for maximal artsy i'd make your gliders asymmetrical. give it some nutty spin. << Maple seeds! | [18:05] |
| BingoBoingo: | <mircea_popescu> that's the problem with me, i'm seldom actually doing what i'm say i'm doing. << OMG spoiler alert!!! That's supposed to take time to figure out. | [18:06] |
| BingoBoingo: | Also http://qntra.net/2017/07/darknet-market-alphabay-shut-down-alleged-operator-dies-in-jail-cell/#comment-105061 | [18:08] |
| BingoBoingo: | Was in moderation que | [18:08] |
| shinohai: | 'Twas `assisted suicide` | [18:08] |
| BingoBoingo: | "E drept ca intr-o prima faza am lasat-o sa creasca in legea ei, mai ales pentru ca ocupantii anteriori fura cam nepriceputi la doxa, si taiara iarba dupa metoda de-i zice-n englezeste scalping (adica foarte jos si foarte scurt), pina mi-or umplut curtea de gauri." << This is very common mistake because idiots think "golf course and sports field are shot" and assume shorter is better. They fail to consider that there are different kinds | [18:18] |
| BingoBoingo: | of grasses. | [18:18] |
| whaack: | for the well endowed victim | [18:18] |
| andreicon: | /query mircea_popescu | [18:18] |
| andreicon: | lol | [18:18] |
| andreicon: | dafuq irssq | [18:18] |
| mod6: | <+asciilifeform> mod6: on what ? << box | [18:21] |
| asciilifeform: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwczkhCMYgM << in other unboxings.. | [18:23] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://trilema.com/2011/marea-afacere-cu-tuns-iarba/#comment-56455 << Lawnmower blades usually come from factory painted dull for our safeocracy. Idea is paint wears down and deck gets disgusting which discourages curiosity by the time sharp edge is exposed. | [18:23] |
| mod6: | this is a core i5 box / 8Gb ram | [18:23] |
| mod6: | gentoo | [18:23] |
| mod6: | actually no. deb. | [18:24] |
| BingoBoingo: | !!up testtttt | [18:24] |
| deedbot: | testtttt voiced for 30 minutes. | [18:24] |
| BingoBoingo: | testtttt: Who is your daddy and what does he do? | [18:25] |
| mod6: | asciilifeform: what is that thing? claymore? | [18:27] |
| asciilifeform: | mod6: su equiv. | [18:34] |
| asciilifeform: | d00d has a number of these films. | [18:35] |
| asciilifeform: | apparently subj was well-packed. | [18:35] |
| mod6: | yah. | [18:40] |
| * asciilifeform | wonders if 'unboxing vid' for nuke has yet been filmed. if not, genre has room for growth!111 | [18:46] |
| BingoBoingo: | Priorities http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8308 | [18:49] |
| BingoBoingo: | Which was a response to http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8301 | [18:51] |
| shinohai: | http://archive.is/YO0wN <<< LOL Trump admin doxes voters | [18:54] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well, they should have signed up to do the Reich thing instead of trying to fight it | [18:57] |
| shinohai: | !!up floog | [19:18] |
| deedbot: | floog voiced for 30 minutes. | [19:18] |
| floog: | hello | [19:30] |
| shinohai: | Heya floog ... who's your daddy and what does he do? | [19:30] |
| floog: | he's an old hippie burnout who became a doctor | [19:36] |
| mod6: | asciilifeform: nao 8ms | [19:51] |
| asciilifeform: | mod6: ...what is | [19:53] |
| asciilifeform: | ? and why | [19:53] |
| mod6: | actually, nevermind. | [19:53] |
| shinohai: | !!up floog | [19:54] |
| deedbot: | floog voiced for 30 minutes. | [19:54] |
| mod6: | ok 44ms is more accurate for 256! | [19:54] |
| mod6: | i refactored my factorial code by getting rid of an FZ_Set that i didn't need | [19:55] |
| floog: | !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/hDBGG/?raw=true | [19:55] |
| deedbot: | 7B308B69A7CD283E3B7549DBE9B833266594AD15 registered as floog. | [19:55] |
| lobbes: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682208 << when I was a teen-lobbes I worked the service desk at a grocery store. In addition to selling lotto/scratch tickets I also handed out (and, if requested, cashed) the paychex to fellow coworkers. | [19:56] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-13 03:51 mod6: the worst part about the lotto tickets people, is they buy them, then more often than not (it seems like), insist on scratching them off right there and then. | [19:56] |
| lobbes: | On several occasions I witnessed same 40ish y/o dude cash his check (roughly $200), buy 10 $20 scratch tickets, scratch them on-the-spot, then 're-invest' any winnings until he reached $0. | [19:56] |
| lobbes: | This was always amusingly contrasted with the many foreigners that worked there in the summer they'd Western Union that shit immediately to home country. | [19:56] |
| mod6: | lol | [19:56] |
| erlehmann: | so it turns out that thumbnailers are worse than antivirus, regarding parsing things better left unparsed | [20:05] |
| erlehmann: | this made me look at a few thumbnailers available for GNOME https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=784630 | [20:06] |
| erlehmann: | in one, i found the exact same vulnerability | [20:07] |
| erlehmann: | but in gnome-exe-thumbnailer, the filename is inserted into ad-hoc vbscript that is then executed using wine. fun stuff! | [20:07] |
| trinque: | erlehmann: got a blog? I'd read. | [20:09] |
| erlehmann: | trinque i sometimes write on http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/posts/index.html | [20:10] |
| erlehmann: | i should probably do a writeup of the vbscript thing, it's too funny | [20:10] |
| trinque: | erlehmann: consider a qntra of it | [20:11] |
| erlehmann: | the only thing that prevented me from immediately gaining execution is that the created script for some reason is UTF-16 LE – and of course my code-injection-via-filename is UTF-8. | [20:11] |
| erlehmann: | in other news, the base64 module in python3 will happily eat garbage and pretend it is filet mignon. | [20:14] |
| shinohai: | Much like python3 pretends it is meat | [20:15] |
| erlehmann: | >>> base64.b64decode(b'Vm0=') | [20:16] |
| erlehmann: | b'Vm' | [20:16] |
| erlehmann: | >>> base64.b64decode(b'V=m=0=w') | [20:16] |
| erlehmann: | b'Vm' | [20:16] |
| erlehmann: | only one of those inputs conforms to the expected grammar | [20:16] |
| erlehmann: | also have you heard about getpid() | [20:18] |
| erlehmann: | it became slower, or so fefe claimed | [20:18] |
| erlehmann: | bonus: only affected program is systemd | [20:18] |
| trinque: | erlehmann: the logs would benefit greatly from a proper writeup of these, so the next time someone goes "hurr durr $shitlang" the blog post can be linked | [20:18] |
| erlehmann: | because journald spends like 95% of its time trying to find out its own pid | [20:18] |
| erlehmann: | real quality software that tries to call getpid(2) >70000 times in <5 seconds | [20:20] |
| erlehmann: | deedbot is funny btw | [20:23] |
| erlehmann: | only client so far that answers to PING with unknown | [20:23] |
| trinque: | no pings for allcomers! | [20:24] |
| erlehmann: | proper OPSEC | [20:24] |
| erlehmann: | i don't even know deedbot's given name! | [20:25] |
| erlehmann: | meanwhile, i'll do a writeup | [20:25] |
| trinque: | neato | [20:25] |
| phf: | erlehmann: i think it's maybe your client that's misinterpreting the result | [20:28] |
| erlehmann: | phf hmm, might be. | [20:29] |
| erlehmann: | let me check | [20:29] |
| phf: | not that whatever's deedbot returning is correct (nor does a111), according to my client | [20:29] |
| phf: | 20:27 <freenode> CTCP-reply PING from deedbot : 521771260.04 sec | [20:29] |
| trinque: | ah, I figured this was something I didn't implement. | [20:30] |
| erlehmann: | it just returns [SOH]PING[SOH] | [20:30] |
| erlehmann: | seems sane otherwise | [20:32] |
| trinque: | I admit I went as far into IRC as to make the thing stay connected, and otherwise didn't want IRC that far into my head | [20:32] |
| trinque: | the IRC bot part does very little. | [20:33] |
| erlehmann: | i understand completely, i wrote an IRC client myself once. | [20:33] |
| shinohai: | I like teh simplicity | [20:33] |
| erlehmann: | it is very simple to just stay connected. PONG | [20:33] |
| erlehmann: | telnet style | [20:33] |
| phf: | hmm, odd because cl-irc defines a default handler for it.. | [20:37] |
| phf: | ctcp version for example leaks | [20:38] |
| trinque: | hm yeah, we only added a handler for pong, not ping. | [20:43] |
| erlehmann: | phf he | [20:51] |
| erlehmann: | :D | [20:51] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4E57E90DD90597C2D996C3D158F95E0BDBDA56B4E35C5A18FDD25E016CE40B2C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1299...5703 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '183.247.162.170 (ssh-rsa key from 183.247.162.170 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown CN) | [21:23] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4E57E90DD90597C2D996C3D158F95E0BDBDA56B4E35C5A18FDD25E016CE40B2C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1290...0619 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '183.247.162.170 (ssh-rsa key from 183.247.162.170 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown CN) | [21:23] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/62B75E92FE606681941AA0A26B30B63C88E6D31FF19B913EF3FEF8A5DD0969AE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1290...0619 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '111.1.83.67 (ssh-rsa key from 111.1.83.67 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown CN) | [21:23] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/62B75E92FE606681941AA0A26B30B63C88E6D31FF19B913EF3FEF8A5DD0969AE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1334...5187 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '111.1.83.67 (ssh-rsa key from 111.1.83.67 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown CN) | [21:23] |
| erlehmann: | first writeup http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/posts/python-base64-langsec-fail.html | [21:38] |
| lobbes: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683550 << /me is excited | [22:03] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 16:57 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683508 << I'll start chopping things down and aim for it, yes. | [22:03] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/274CF10DC6ADAE595391AE7E26B9ECBADFA4CFB74A1C858D7F05A52D3083AE23 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1789...2259 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '93.90.177.210 (ssh-rsa key from 93.90.177.210 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (ebusiness.reitze.com. DE) | [22:08] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/274CF10DC6ADAE595391AE7E26B9ECBADFA4CFB74A1C858D7F05A52D3083AE23 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1630...6747 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '93.90.177.210 (ssh-rsa key from 93.90.177.210 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (ebusiness.reitze.com. DE) | [22:08] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1683928 << try, some time : BRAINSEC | [22:22] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-15 00:24 erlehmann: proper OPSEC | [22:22] |
| asciilifeform: | aka fits-in-head. | [22:22] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1683912 << see also http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-is-probably-never-going-to-support-python-3/ | [22:23] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-15 00:14 erlehmann: in other news, the base64 module in python3 will happily eat garbage and pretend it is filet mignon. | [22:23] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1683904 << try using machine without poettering on it. i recommend. | [22:24] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-15 00:06 erlehmann: this made me look at a few thumbnailers available for GNOME https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=784630 | [22:24] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683901 << it is not clear to asciilifeform that the 'wire 50bux to somalia and it costs 70' people are any smarter than the lottery players. | [22:25] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-14 23:56 lobbes: This was always amusingly contrasted with the many foreigners that worked there in the summer they'd Western Union that shit immediately to home country. | [22:25] |
| lobbes: | at least that 50bux in somalia is > 0bux. Beats lotto player, but that is a good point: after wire fees it doesn't beat it by much | [22:36] |
| lobbes: | not much contrast afterall. Elliots everywhere! | [22:38] |
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