Forum logs for 06 May 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

asciilifeform	anybody ever 'bbv' bitcoind ? ( http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/bbv-manual.html )	[00:04]
assbot	Valgrind ... ( http://bit.ly/1dM08hZ )	[00:04]
asciilifeform	or even gprof	[00:05]
asciilifeform	or wtf, anything at all	[00:05]
asciilifeform	how about dhat ? ( http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/dh-manual.html )	[00:06]
assbot	Valgrind ... ( http://bit.ly/1E6YNbA )	[00:07]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu ^ ?	[00:07]
decimation	asciilifeform: interesting I've never used bbv, only mem profile	[00:07]
asciilifeform	many interesting gadgets, which, apparently, nobody uses.	[00:08]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform because everyone knows the way to make silicon is by the dozen	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	craftmansheep!	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	"2. All police assets from Baltimore City and surrounding <<< the point of the king's police is to maintain the king's claims to sovereignity. it is not the police's job to protect you. you don't get to sue either the police generally or individual police officers for having failed to assist - even in places where you can sue ordinary citizens for same.	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform> and of course ethernet over coax somehow never happened << how not ? it's how i got broadband for a decade. "catv"	[00:30]
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decimation	mircea_popescu: re: police < yeah I buy that, but it's often the case that the democratic police like to confuse the voters into thinking that they work for them	[00:33]
mircea_popescu	heh. was example earlier in the log about how "police work for them". was re three strikes ballot in ca.	[00:33]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: how i got broadband for a decade << same	[00:34]
*	asciilifeform was poking phun at the imbecility of the camera thing	[00:34]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform heh, so far nobody even compiles glibc. go away with your exotic temptations, fair lady.	[00:34]
asciilifeform	nobody - to a first approximation - wants to do fucking anything at all...	[00:35]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the point of the king's police is to maintain the king's claims to sovereignity << this was no mystery of any kind to the folks who first witnessed this marvellous invention.	[00:35]
decimation	asciilifeform: in theory, ip cameras could work as well as dumb analog-over-coax, but in practice the firmware sucks	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	the problem is that the king has no further good claims on sovereignity, and as such must now surrender the police.	[00:36]
decimation	yarvin thought that urban police depts. would make good rulers	[00:37]
decimation	given how they have to deal with reality as-is	[00:37]
asciilifeform	why not beggars then ?	[00:37]
asciilifeform	or rats, from sewers.	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	"7. Over 200 businesses, including at least 13 pharmacies, and up to a third of liquor stores, have been wiped from the face of the earth, many of them minority businesses which are uninsured and will not recover. This places the drug gangs in a position to expand the illegal economy in areas where businesses will not return—as they did not return after the 1968 riots—which offsets losses of territory recently suff	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	ered at the hands of Johns Hopkins Hospital and University buying up drug territory."	[00:38]
decimation	how many beggars in the us couldn't have a warm bed and meals - if willin to submit to charity	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	this guy has a pretty decent understanding of how this shit works.	[00:38]
decimation	I've been to johns hopkins in baltimore, it's in hell-hole ghetto land	[00:39]
asciilifeform	surrounded, today, by (discreet) guard booths	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	but the police shows up.	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[00:39]
asciilifeform	mega-posh campus, incidentally	[00:39]
decimation	johns hopkins is actually the largest employer in maryland	[00:40]
asciilifeform	makes the lawns of d.c. capitol, etc. look shabby.	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	"10. All whites I have spoken to have noted that blacks they normally come into contact with have been behaving with increased—or not before present—hostility. This has been noted by the author as well, with hard eye-contact and aggressive posturing evidenced by most black males I now encounter, where before that was a minority expression of about a third of such men."	[00:40]
decimation	all the other industry is long-gone	[00:40]
asciilifeform	decimation: last i checked it was nsa	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	this gonna be a warm summer.	[00:40]
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decimation	asciilifeform: yeah, could be	[00:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108103 @ 0.00022071 = 23.8594 BTC [+]	[00:41]
decimation	http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-rg-mdbusiness21-story.html < although I bet johns hopkins university + medical is pretty close	[00:41]
assbot	Top Maryland employers - Baltimore Sun ... ( http://bit.ly/1DRAixT )	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	http://www.jameslafond.com/?f=site << me looks and smiles. ah, youth...	[00:42]
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decimation	mircea_popescu: the problem this guy (the blog author) has is that if he is too public about his point of view, the king's police will make an example of him	[00:42]
assbot	Baltimore's Violence Guy ... ( http://bit.ly/1DRAjlt )	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	someone invite him over.	[00:42]
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asciilifeform	206451	[00:47]
asciilifeform	re: police irregularities: i'm still betting on the hypothesis that local police will be pissed on in propagandatron endlessly until finally entirely replaced (as planned) with centralized gendarmerie	[00:51]
asciilifeform	which will, naturally, follow 'federal equal opportunity employment' etc.	[00:52]
decimation	I'm not sure about such a coordinated plot, but it certainly is the case that urban police departments are independent power centers upon which usg frowns	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	yes, because you have this strange fetishistic attractor in your mental prognosticator.	[00:52]
decimation	we already have 'federal equal opportunity employment'	[00:52]
asciilifeform	and, the absolutely key soviet part, gendarme will be posted far from his home town	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	but no. baltimore/maryland is currently under an aliance of the underworld. they WILL drive out any and all statal enforcement, because that is what happens when the underworld decides to .	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	it's not accidental that my path to breaking 1984 was as i described it at the time.	[00:53]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Mega-posh campus + medical school seems to thrive on medicaid like kudzu, local entity of that flavor is "BJC healthcare"	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	and for that matter, baltimore may well be the hole the night crawls through.	[00:53]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: what does it mean to 'drive out statal enforcement' in a place that is run 100% on usg largesse ?	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	if detroit next copies them...	[00:54]
asciilifeform	and why was l.a. not the hole the night walks in through ?	[00:54]
decimation	"In the city, the entitlement pressure continues to ramp up, with the Whole Foods grocery store coming under fire for feeding national guardsmen that prevented their store from being looted. The ghettoites claim that the grocer should have been feeding the black students who lost their free school lunch on Tuesday, rather than the guardsmen who were protecting the grocer from these same juvenile delinquents. "	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform there is no such thing as "government largesse".	[00:54]
asciilifeform	l.a. had proper street war.	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	the government is that derpy kid in school. it doesn't give anything, the kids just take.	[00:54]
asciilifeform	(mega-recommend: watch the extant films from it. good quality shootouts, etc)	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	because la is too fragmented, apparently.	[00:54]
BingoBoingo	l.a. had the problem of firstness	[00:54]
decimation	mircea_popescu: but that approach fails when men with guns are willing to stand	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	also, perhaps.	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	decimation what men ?	[00:55]
decimation	there are few	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	why would you, or anyone stand for the usg ?!	[00:55]
decimation	that's the problem the men with guns have, isn't it	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	dea guys are just in it for the columbian whore parties / stolen goodies from evidence room.	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	it's not a problem, no.	[00:55]
decimation	'the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy'	[00:55]
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asciilifeform	why would you, or anyone stand for the usg ?! << i can think of one reason - if alternative is surrender to orcs	[00:56]
asciilifeform	aka south africa	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	south africa HAS a government.	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	of usg's hand picking, no less.	[00:56]
asciilifeform	aha	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	so no, south africa is not a possible result.	[00:56]
decimation	yeah, government of & by the orcs	[00:56]
asciilifeform	usa will also have a government.	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	in the sense that sec will oversee mpex.	[00:56]
asciilifeform	or rather, pieces of usa	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	they can draw mpex on a piece of paper and oversee it till they fall over.	[00:57]
decimation	actually I think the mega-trend here is that the us is sorting itself out geographically	[00:57]
decimation	men who don't want to put up with baltimore's shit, stop	[00:57]
decimation	can move to portland or whereever	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	orly. lol.	[00:57]
decimation	sure, that's what gives the us its black and white checkerboard demographic map	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	men who don't like the earthquake in kyoto can go have the earthquake in osaka.	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	provided they move fast enough.	[00:58]
decimation	earthquakes are unpredictable	[00:58]
decimation	it's not like noone could have predicted racial freak-out in baltimore	[00:58]
asciilifeform	orc flare-ups are similarly unpredictable (other than, possibly, to instigators)	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	decimation why didn't you predict it then!	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	or for that matter, predict the next one, so you know where not to go o.O	[00:59]
asciilifeform	in the general case, both - predictable. like the example of orlov's bridge falling into the river. (eventually the whole thing is underwater. but when?)	[00:59]
decimation	well, I did leave the md/dc area	[01:00]
BingoBoingo	A contemporary USian problem is that for every DEA Carl Mark Force IV is a freelance Carl Mark Force IV who also robs Drug dealers bu while doing so is younger, darker, and more effective	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	a, you did ?	[01:00]
decimation	not many orc flare-ups in dubuque iowa, or bismark nd	[01:00]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Purely chance	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo one, or ten.	[01:00]
decimation	BingoBoingo: Town&Country also under threat?	[01:01]
BingoBoingo	;;google shadynavy north county cowboys	[01:01]
gribble	North County Cowboys \| Facebook: ; North County Cowboys 7-1 2014 \| Facebook: ; B2C: North County Cowboys vs South Doyle Cherokees - 8th Grade ...:	[01:01]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Not yet, Ferguson shit didn't even make it to clayton, but did annoy StL city proper	[01:01]
decimation	even in the wash dc area, people pay really good money to be physically separated from orcs	[01:02]
asciilifeform	they pay up to 100% of income, yes.	[01:02]
asciilifeform	it mostly works.	[01:03]
asciilifeform	in fact, the baltimore thing etc. is a kind of 'floor demo'	[01:03]
BingoBoingo	I'm just glad stl avoided its inevitable orc vs. high-orc flare up for some time	[01:03]
asciilifeform	'here is why you were smart not to move to where house exactly like yours costs 1/7th what you paid'	[01:03]
decimation	even though rich jews live less than a few miles from the hell-hole, they might as well be a world away	[01:03]
BingoBoingo	And the Black vs. Bosnia conflict was silenced by the old bosnians	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	you know, this is so bizarre to me.	[01:03]
asciilifeform	this is one reason why the uprisings are permitted (hell, organized) by usg	[01:04]
decimation	(north baltimore is famously highly jewish)	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	my main complaint here in argentina is that well... there's no "orcs" as you call them, in sight.	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea how you people can even live in a 100% pencilneck atmosphere.	[01:04]
asciilifeform	if not this, there'd be pinkertons, machine-gunning at foot level	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	doesn't it get depressing like the fucking sahara ?	[01:04]
asciilifeform	depressing?	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[01:04]
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asciilifeform	(and we have plenty of orc of whatever kind.)	[01:04]
decimation	most normal folk just avert their eyes and speed through on their commutes	[01:04]
BingoBoingo	Oh, no, it gets entertaining. More so than saturday's boxing screwjob.	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	such idiocy.	[01:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108650 @ 0.00022071 = 23.9801 BTC [+]	[01:05]
decimation	northeast dc is now nearly all salvadoran/guatamalan	[01:05]
asciilifeform	what kind of orc does mircea_popescu lack in b-a ?	[01:05]
asciilifeform	the kind that sets fire to grocer because his usg-sponsored lunch skipped a day?	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	The professional gun-armed black criminals were staging home invasions, drug stash-house raids, and stealthy break-ins of high value targets under cover of darkness <	[01:06]
asciilifeform	or the kind that lights parked cars on fire ?	[01:06]
asciilifeform	no robbers in b-a ?	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	no COMPETENT ones.	[01:07]
*	BingoBoingo seeing baltimore riot tape first thought black mardi gras	[01:07]
asciilifeform	competent robbers go where there is something to steal ?	[01:07]
asciilifeform	what ought they to steal in b-a ? the icecream ?	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	even the fucking italians are more like a hand puppet, hanging around with their retarded blazers	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	nobody popping a cap in their fat ass because a) it's not fat anymore, and b) the guns are all chocolate.	[01:08]
BingoBoingo	!b 2	[01:08]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3K6BXWC.txt )	[01:08]
asciilifeform	^ except for that rusty old luger at the flea market, l0l	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform how would you feel if you had to live in a place where nobody used words longer than 4 letters ?	[01:09]
asciilifeform	i sorta live there now.	[01:09]
asciilifeform	my 5+ letters come in over the fiber.	[01:09]
asciilifeform	everywhere else <=4.	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	well, i feel the same way. retards everywhere.	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	if i had a pick of 2-30 men from my youth, i could take over this country in six months. make any random whore of your choosing president.	[01:10]
BingoBoingo	So lol US orcs vs. ents http://forums.bullnettlenews.com/26-wildlife-habitat/47873-help-killing-kudzu-smallish-pines-2.html	[01:10]
assbot	Help killing kudzu in smallish pines - Page 2 - Mississippi Hunting and Fishing Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1FODUXh )	[01:10]
*	asciilifeform recalls reading tales of daring heists and bloody shootouts from ar '01-03 default years	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	but there aren't 30. nor 20. nor 2. in fact, there hasn't been one in decades.	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform the reports were exagerated.	[01:10]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: ... there hasn't been one in decades << all dead ?	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	no, all stupid.	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	here's a deep dark secret : the us would produce fine young men too, even white ones, if their IDIOTIC MOTHERS were beaten more often,	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	and the grandmothers kept in the outhouse.	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	argentina, much more than the us, is an old-woman-oriented society.	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	it's disgusting.	[01:12]
asciilifeform	the (not argentinian but pertinent) garcia marquez painted a very frightening picture of this, in his tales	[01:12]
mircea_popescu	it's the case. the jews have it ridiculously bad but not this bad. the arabs have it almost as bad, but not nearly.	[01:13]
mircea_popescu	this country is maybe the casebook study on "what happens if you don't beat the women".	[01:13]
mircea_popescu	yes, the icecream is excellent. meanwhile i'm hatching a major depression.	[01:13]
asciilifeform	perhaps ar could benefit from a steamer full of arabs et al	[01:13]
decimation	this guy could have predicted (baltimore) http://unamusementpark.com/2011/07/blacks-ruin-fourth-of-july-in-baltimore-media-censor-race/	[01:13]
assbot	Unamusement Park » Blog Archive » Blacks ruin Fourth of July in Baltimore; media censor race ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOEg0j )	[01:13]
mircea_popescu	if i cared more i'd try to import ukraina here.	[01:14]
asciilifeform	decimation: is that the bloke who was beaten to death in a za police clink ?	[01:14]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Also describes "Taste of Chicago"	[01:14]
decimation	asciilifeform: hadn't heard of that	[01:14]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: import ukraina l0l	[01:14]
asciilifeform	which half	[01:14]
mircea_popescu	i don't care. but the women preferably.	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	This kind of elevation of young men normally only occurs on battlefields or on sports teams—not in sissy, civilized, shop keeping society. The leaders and academics of our sick corrupt society have labored for nearly two centuries to emasculate our young men from the cradle to the grave.	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	I now observe, through what of my primal man’s eye I have been able to salvage from this systematic assault on my humanity, that all it takes is a few urban savages to rip the mask away from the slave mistress that owns us to expose her for the impotent squabbling bitch that she is, and open the door for men to be men once again, as the lie that encases our souls crumbles to dust with every fumbling falsehood that fa	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	lls flat beneath the reality of naked force. The hooting black heathens that have hunted me in the streets of Baltimore for over 30 years might be my enemies, but they at least acknowledge my manhood as they probe for my every weakness, and have struck a resounding blow against the slave mistress society that seeks with its every apparatus to render me weak to the point of meek.	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	speaking of which!	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	check this out, this dude gets shit.	[01:15]
asciilifeform	eh reads like 'mansphere' sop.	[01:15]
asciilifeform	i have (had?) bookmark pit with 1,001 of these.	[01:16]
mircea_popescu	well he's a mfa/boxer coach, whadda ya want.	[01:16]
decimation	yeah, but my point from above: why bother trying to 'save' baltimore? move to bismark?	[01:16]
mircea_popescu	decimation either love or hatred.	[01:16]
mircea_popescu	from experience, hatred is usually more effectual.	[01:16]
BingoBoingo	decimation: The weather	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2341&pr=0 << check it out.	[01:17]
assbot	JL: The Four Types of Women ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpG66E )	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	dja folks have ANY IDEA how rare it is for me to be able to read like three paragraphs into something on the web without throwing a fit ?	[01:17]
mircea_popescu	thinking about it you prolly do.	[01:17]
decimation	apparently the lightly braindamaged pugilist from baltimore charms you :)	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	"A facet of the slave girl is her inability to acquire wisdom and enlightenment when not in a post orgasmic state. " << bs.	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	he just doesn't know how to connect.	[01:18]
mircea_popescu	decimation i am charmed.	[01:18]
decimation	BingoBoingo: I think asciilifeform can attest that the weather in maryland is shit	[01:18]
*	BingoBoingo still pissed over saturday's fight. Mayweather spent the whole time retreating.	[01:19]
decimation	freezing wet winters, hot as balls in summer	[01:19]
asciilifeform	decimation: and the nearer to d.c. swamp, the more so, yes	[01:19]
asciilifeform	if i had to design a climate for penal colony planet, i'd base it on this.	[01:19]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Weather being shit is a universal part of USian living, just varies regionally	[01:19]
decimation	^ one 'stealth' reason for silicon valley's 'success'	[01:19]
*	BingoBoingo researching "tropical" places cooler and less humid in peak summer than stl region	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	i don't think anyone missed the memo on why california has been attractive since cca 1849	[01:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 328600 @ 0.00022331 = 73.3797 BTC [+] {3}	[01:20]
asciilifeform	the only thing missing in this penal colony are those giant wasps that can sautee a man full of eggs in minutes	[01:20]
asciilifeform	or perhaps even these, we have somewhere.	[01:20]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: California always attractive because mediteranian climate substitute and mountain runoff water	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	yup	[01:21]
decimation	http://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2012/07/deadly-asian-giant-hornet-spotted-in-arlington-heights-not-cicada-killer-wasp/	[01:21]
asciilifeform	it is attractive, properly speaking, in contrast to -the rest of usa-	[01:21]
assbot	Deadly Asian Giant Hornet Spotted in Arlington Heights, Illinois: Not Cicada Killer Wasp \| The Cardinal ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOEQLv )	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	sort of like a slightly more retarded liguria,	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	but bigger.	[01:21]
*	asciilifeform has definitely met this wasp	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	(for the record, liguria was never prime european real estate. home to 3rd best venice)	[01:22]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: I'm telling you Illinois has been perfect this year wasp wise so far now that I got my bee posse together	[01:22]
*	BingoBoingo might be interested in these giant hornets	[01:23]
BingoBoingo	though the carpenter bees seem to handle yellowjackets admirably	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	left the dude a comment. curious if he shows up.	[01:25]
decimation	I thought carpenter bees just drilled holes in various wood pieces	[01:26]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i'm still puzzled as to how importing female ua would replenish the missing supply of (somehow) necessary orcs	[01:26]
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*	asciilifeform was also under the impression that mircea_popescu already flies in females as necessary for terraforming martian colony	[01:26]
BingoBoingo	decimation: They mostly do. They also love the columbine in the front garden, will love the Hollyhock later in the year.	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform why ?	[01:27]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Capenter bees here in the past decade went the miraculous transformation from pest to desirable	[01:27]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: why ? << same reason flew in pogotrons - local supplies did not cut it	[01:28]
*	asciilifeform conjectured.	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform nono, i mean, why do you not see ua etc.	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	as to fly in, i have better shit to do with my girls than lift argentina from the shithole. maybe if i cared more, or maybe if it pissed me off more. but as it is... whatever.	[01:29]
asciilifeform	because was under the impression that mircea_popescu lacked for desperadoes, good shootouts, etc. in b-a rather than gurlz	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	even the owner of a cleaning company does not order the forest cleanned randomly.	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	girls make excellent desperadoes.	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	boys are usually 2nd rate.	[01:30]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu might consider sharing his martian tech with rest of planet 3	[01:31]
BingoBoingo	For reference growing up these were primarily and exclusively the wasp genera of concern http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_dauber	[01:31]
assbot	Mud dauber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOFMPZ )	[01:31]
asciilifeform	perhaps then girls will also make best os demungers, cosmonauts, etc	[01:31]
asciilifeform	but basic point stands - cleaner does not clean the forest. not unless the badgers, mushrooms, snakes - pay.	[01:32]
asciilifeform	cash on barrelhead.	[01:32]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122307 <<< always bet on black :P	[01:32]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 04:14:32; *: BingoBoingo still pissed over saturday's fight. Mayweather spent the whole time retreating.	[01:32]
*	asciilifeform bets on red	[01:33]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: I always try to play chess as black, why should I oppress myself by favoring that colour further	[01:33]
decimation	BingoBoingo: what's wrong with mud dauber wasps?	[01:33]
BingoBoingo	decimation: The sting	[01:33]
decimation	generally my experience is that wasps leave you alone if you leave them alone. hornets, not so much	[01:35]
BingoBoingo	decimation: I've been stung by honeybees many times without atypical problems but never been stung by a mud dauber without needing some limited necrosis debrided later	[01:35]
cazalla	asciilifeform, red? communism lingers that bad eh?	[01:36]
cazalla	or was that the joke..	[01:36]
decimation	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantula_hawk#/media/File:Wasp_with_Orange-kneed_tarantula.JPG < supposedly the most painful sting in the us	[01:36]
assbot	Tarantula hawk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOGgWi )	[01:36]
asciilifeform	cazalla: was to be a complicated l0l re: 'red' indians	[01:36]
asciilifeform	who will rise again, or the like.	[01:36]
BingoBoingo	wasp/hornet is a hard distinction to make in north America. Most things we'd refer to in NA as hornets look more like European wasps than North American wasps	[01:36]
decimation	if you are wondering the southwest and find a gigantic blue wasp dragging around a freshly-paralyzed tarantula, leave it alone	[01:37]
decimation	^would put in penal planet	[01:37]
BingoBoingo	if you are wondering the southwest and find a gigantic blue wasp dragging around a freshly-paralyzed tarantula, leave it alone << Fuck. No tarantulas here, but that coloration is new this year among some of the assorted wasps I've ignored as variations on the paper wasps. Will have nore concern for	[01:39]
asciilifeform	giant wasps always bring me brain back to an ancient sf tome from childhood, where a couplea blokes submitted to do a prison planet term -in advance-	[01:39]
asciilifeform	(idea was that scarcely anyone survived, and so would-be miscreants were tempted with reduced terms with proviso that if they return, they get to kill somebody)	[01:39]
decimation	asciilifeform: as in they 'gain citizenship' or whatever?	[01:40]
asciilifeform	they get sentenced to time served.	[01:41]
BingoBoingo	decimation: I can't certainly recall and exact match on the body color in those photos, but those wings... I sprayed one with glyphosate clearing a ditch	[01:41]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo is professional gardener now ?!	[01:41]
decimation	BingoBoingo: apparently they do range up to washington state	[01:42]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Not professionally. Last couple years I mowed lawns for cash. This year branching out. Gardens are more paper for less long term commitment.	[01:42]
BingoBoingo	decimation: In southern Illinois	[01:42]
BingoBoingo	This part of Illinois though tends to have sightings of all kinds of animals the USDA supposes could never naturalize here (armadillos, carious reptiles and amphibians)	[01:46]
BingoBoingo	*various	[01:47]
*	BingoBoingo bets on green	[01:48]
*	BingoBoingo would also not doubt that some sort of climate shift is happening in north america, but doubts atmospheric carbon as the case when compared to local change in Albedo wrought by soy	[01:49]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Gardening surprisingly easy. Mostly you abort the unwanted allowing conditions favorable to the desirables	[01:51]
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BingoBoingo	cazalla: I seriously though wonder how a person could win a competition in a combat sport while retreating as often as Mayweather did	[01:55]
*	BingoBoingo wonders how one can inspire призывник with such cowardice	[02:00]
cazalla	BingoBoingo, pays well either way	[02:02]
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BingoBoingo	cazalla: Maybe? I remember though when boxing payperviews mean ears being bitten and brain damage occuring. Mayweather's style of retreating and punching pacman in the kidneys during midfight hugs was... different and probably deviant	[02:06]
cazalla	BingoBoingo, well they don't get coked up for fights like tyson did for his so this is the resultl	[02:12]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: No, this is a serious decline in American national character.	[02:13]
BingoBoingo	The fucking welterweight champion is known more for "defense" than leaving welts?	[02:13]
cazalla	they were charging $60 AUD for that fight.. almost $50 USD	[02:14]
cazalla	anyway pacman got some good punches in which isn't bad considering he fought against a turtle	[02:18]
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BingoBoingo	Here it was $100 US	[02:24]
BingoBoingo	And fucking Justin Beiber was part of Mayweather's posse walking out	[02:25]
cazalla	heh, i saw that	[02:28]
cazalla	just to restate.. http://agar.io/ is the shit.. this is like a better ver of mike_c's WoL, would be fun to place a wager and winner takes all in 5 or 10m rounds	[02:31]
assbot	Agar.io ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ifj05s )	[02:31]
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cazalla	steam ver otw too http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=436491794	[02:33]
assbot	Steam Greenlight :: Agar.io ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ifj5WO )	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform> perhaps then girls will also make best os demungers << nah	[02:37]
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mircea_popescu	This year branching out. Gardens are more paper for less long term commitment. << basically bingo's become a mexican.	[02:40]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Gotta learn a better language some way	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	but from the plants ?!	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	and re marywether dude, isn't he like 52 ?	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	mayweather is like 40	[02:43]
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BingoBoingo	Nah, you learn the language from the dudes who sell the plants	[02:43]
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cazalla	http://googleblog.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/doing-more-on-diversity.html	[04:02]
assbot	Official Google Blog: Doing more on diversity	[04:02]
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mircea_popescu	cazalla somehow that shit manages to be pretty offensive.	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	"Hire diverse Googlers: In the past, our university-focused hiring programs have relied heavily on a relatively small number of schools. But, we know those schools aren't always the most diverse. For example, while 14% of Hispanic college enrollment is at 4-year schools, Hispanics make up just 7% at the 200 most selective schools. In the past two years, we've doubled the number of schools where we recruit, to promote s	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	tudent diversity."	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	fuck you, be good instead. who the fuck cares how "diverse" good is.	[04:21]
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cazalla	you'd think they'd want the best man or woman for the job as it relates to their skills	[04:36]
cazalla	reminds me of another article i read yesterday.. some chick will graduate fireman school despite failing because that's who you want to turn up in case of a fire.. someone unable to put it out	[04:37]
cazalla	http://nypost.com/2015/05/03/woman-to-become-ny-firefighter-despite-failing-crucial-fitness-test/	[04:38]
assbot	Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test \| New York Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1zLMMw1 )	[04:38]
cazalla	next you'll have firemen in mobility scooters.. BYO fire truck	[04:38]
mircea_popescu	maybe she only goes to fires with no grades.	[04:45]
mats	http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/05/05/lawyers-threaten-researcher-over-key-cloning-bug-in-high-security-lock	[04:46]
assbot	Lawyers threaten researcher over key-cloning bug in high-security lock \| Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1GYBcxf )	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	yeah, that'll fix it	[04:46]
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mats	can find these vulns with an ubertooth which is apparently sophisticated lab equipment that the public can't buy nao	[04:49]
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mircea_popescu	the problem with systems that don't have anyone in charge is that this sort of nonsense flourishes.	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	MMA is the place where all of those bodies are landing. It might not be boxing, but boxing is there. And the grappling and kicking coaches want your help. Believe me, comparing notes with a ground fighter in 2013 is far better than arguing with the wannabe martial arts movie stars of the 1970s about their bizarre array of secret animal punches and their ability to levitate out of your way as they stole your life force	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	and used it to cheat gravity.	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	When I was the same age as the MMA athletes you are training all we had was silk-lined fantasy. Now there is a real sweaty reality in a cage near you, and you just might be able to help some hard working young wrestler who actually knows how to make weight, box, if only in spots. Even so, it’s still boxing, and it’s a fact, that most of the hands being taped today are being taped cage-side. You might-as-well wield	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	the scissors.	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	ah this guy.	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	but yeah, boxing is pretty much dead. sorry BingoBoingo	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2344&pr=1 <<< ahahaha what the shit	[05:12]
assbot	JL: Emerald Eyes ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPAupK )	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	the man got a purple belt in prose.	[05:12]
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btcdrak	thank you. I just found this channel by following some links in the blocksize discussion on reddit.	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	good for you.	[05:28]
btcdrak	I would be super surprised if gavin's proposal gets through. seems like there is a lot of opposition from coredevs thankfully.	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	either way.	[05:30]
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mircea_popescu	"Note that every honest person in Baltimore believes these riots were the first of many, and that the media and government—attributing the riots to the death of Freddie Gray—think that throwing some cops under the proverbial city bus will assuage black rage, when in reality, every government initiative that has contributed to the racial hatred in Baltimore is still ongoing. There will be more riots in Baltimore, pe	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	rhaps purely-for-profit raids on retailers based around Halloween, or school events. As with the recent riots the aims will be largely racial purging and plunder, not protest."	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	he even has a testable hypothesis! exciting.	[05:35]
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mircea_popescu	"The Baltimore riots were fueled by cohesive large scale mobs exiting their criminal training ground, where they are prepared for a lifetime of illiteracy and incarceration: Baltimore City Schools. These riots only reached virulent levels during the week. The media claims that the riots calmed down after Friday because of the police indictments, but this was not so. Friday was as hot as any day of the riots other than	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	Monday. The first riots on the Saturday following the death of Freddie Gray were not a fraction of what came on Monday after his funeral. Recall that all parties predicted that the funeral would calm tensions, not considering that Freddie Gray’s death was just an excuse to vent long standing hatreds, and that proper mass riots could not be organized until high school was in session. When another weekend rolled around	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	there was no longer an ability to marshal large ghetto forces, absent their high school breeding grounds. The media coverage was a complete lie and a hoax, the rioters have been excused, and the race-purging strike teams in outlying areas ignored or covered up. During the school year attend such events in Baltimore only on the weekend. If they have a Friday night event, do not go. As this event is in August, I predict	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	there will be minimal problems."	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	fascinating.	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	Finally, if the event is held between the 1st [SSI distribution] and the 16th [last EBT distribution] the ghetto will be flush with government money. Any event held after the 20th will be likely to draw criminal predators, mostly teens ranging away from the nest to fill their mother’s requests, such as, “Baby, get me a new purse—a nice leather one like those white ladies carry.”	[05:47]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2135&pr=0 << prolly guy's best article.	[06:05]
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davout	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1121907 <<< the original source doesn't mention crypto at all	[06:27]
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ben_vulpes	\| \| \| \| ->08.68% (67,108,864B) 0x470070: ThreadGetMyExternalIP(void*) (net.cpp:379) << that this is a thing cracks me up	[13:33]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: what does "in lockstep" mean when you talk about running bitcoind and any potential replacements "in lockstep"?	[13:35]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes like processors on spacecraft	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	throw an exception if they disagree	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	cheap and effectual testing of critical stuff like this.	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform apparently they're at 3s. longsoon that is. ah, best laid out plans...	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122488 << it does. also an explicit, painfully explicit, very very explicit, specific, nothing vague at all, nothing overlooked, specific, very explicit discussion of it would make an excellent blogpost.	[13:45]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 14:10:21; asciilifeform: takes some effort to read this correctly.	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122491<< they are not fucked. we were always at war with eurasia. this is what they meant to do!	[13:46]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 14:19:10; asciilifeform: the imbeciles are phucked and their only recourse, as is now traditional, is to fud and lawyering	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	every fucktarded girl i ever met growing up, the sort that never got anywhere either in the bed or in the forum, their entire lives, and ended up settling down with an alcoholic bum, each and every one had, without exception, the same answer to any instance where they had fucked up :	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	"o no, that's what i had really meant to do!11"	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	it's like a std, basically, they get it around puberty through apparent spontaneous generation.	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122508 << yes. because for all the pretense of "development" and "progress" and "new versions" and of course "blockchain technologees" of the #bitcoin-dev muppet orphanage, THEY.HAVE.NOT.ACTUALLY.DONE.ANYTHING.	[13:51]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 14:27:11; asciilifeform: l0l, 4th google hit is my patch	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	three years later, they have done NOTHING. nothing at all.	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	polished all the fucking knobs and hanged scented car trees and chinatown windchimes from various nubbins is all.	[13:51]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122569 << omfg have some mercy. you don't wanna do THAT.	[14:01]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 15:59:02; davout: so now do i compile bitcoind right there? or should i somehow compile it on my local machine?	[14:01]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: xplicit, painfully explicit, very very explicit, specific... << imho it needs another couplea runs. i have a strong sense that something is missed	[14:06]
mircea_popescu	at your leisure.	[14:06]
ascii_field	mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122532 << are you running the original burner? or the thermonuke ?	[14:06]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 15:16:19; mod6: I can't really check from here, but later tonight will give some updates as to how my v0.5.3.1+OrphanageBurner build is running. last I saw, it was using quite a bit of available ram. was >200`000 blocks, and still running, but that was lastnight.	[14:06]
mircea_popescu	and after, of course, the phuctor is started on processing gpg signs	[14:06]
mircea_popescu	is it ?	[14:06]
ascii_field	nein	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	man...	[14:07]
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mircea_popescu	stop fucking around with valgrind and whatnot omg.	[14:08]
ascii_field	presently wishing to entice -other folks- to fuck around with it	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	i'll tell you what you're enticing. you're enticing me to can the project.	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	either process the queue or garbage collector gets it, tis that simple.	[14:08]
ascii_field	why mircea_popescu so impatient.	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	because god damned it there's a server sitting there.	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	and i had the thing sitting on your own aws or w/e specifically so you get whatever out of your system before i moive it on real metal, so you don't waste its cycles.	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	apparently a year wasn't enough, which means phuctor's going to hang out with the advertising site we had in short order.	[14:10]
ben_vulpes	don't just let the capital equipment depreciate, now...	[14:10]
ascii_field	ben_vulpes: want to volunteer ?	[14:10]
ascii_field	sks is retarded, so i gotta write a slicer that parses the gpg blobs and reassociates the email/selfsig/pubkey fragments into usable key packets	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[14:11]
ben_vulpes	where does one get one of these blobs?	[14:12]
ascii_field	ben_vulpes: https://keyserver.mattrude.com/dump/current	[14:12]
assbot	Index of /dump/current/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qn977b )	[14:12]
ascii_field	for instance.	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	i dunno if you think valgrinding bitcoind is sexier than fixing phuctor or something, but a) it is not, and moreover b) doing it while the other waits is actually negative, it's not even zero. moreover c) this nonsense is exactly how the power rangers got to be power rangers.	[14:12]
ascii_field	not sexier, but had to be set going while i remembered wtf was going to do (was operating from notes scribbled during c3)	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	yeah well.	[14:13]
ascii_field	at any rate, we oughta be cooking with gas before i turn in for bed tonight.	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	that'd be splendid.	[14:14]
ben_vulpes	blech	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	i suppose "make a sane fucking export model" will be part of the ba sks server job.	[14:16]
ascii_field	for the record, i'd rather wash my car than run (esp. read the output of) the valgrind. but who is going to do it if i didn't, l0l	[14:16]
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mircea_popescu	speaking of which, how's that thing going mats ?	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field there's an order in all things!!	[14:16]
ascii_field	aha.	[14:16]
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nubbins`	hi	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	hi nubs	[14:17]
nubbins`	what's the word?	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	logs!	[14:17]
nubbins`	;/	[14:17]
nubbins`	stan, one of these days i'll read up on valgrind and pick sense outta your last couple ML posts	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	"shut up and copy the day's log in longhand" will be the new standard punishment	[14:18]
nubbins`	i'm still waiting on someone to do up daily summaries	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	sadly i don't think this is actually a possible task.	[14:18]
ascii_field	nubbins`: everyone with the 'one of these days.' you're gonna make mircea_popescu's head explode.	[14:18]
nubbins`	wunna deez days	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	all the people who would have the intellectual capacity to do that worth a shit, we have better stuff to do with.	[14:18]
nubbins`	too true	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	so... this will only happen once we end up with a million kids we have to kill 100k off somehow,	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	and that's how it's gonna be.	[14:19]
nubbins`	oh hey alf, the troll moved out	[14:19]
nubbins`	you'll be thrilled to hear	[14:19]
ascii_field	just now ?	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	no more chef cooking for you eh	[14:19]
nubbins`	couple days ago	[14:19]
ascii_field	left on own feet, or had to be physically ejected ?	[14:20]
nubbins`	ascii_field i gave him walking papers, he acquiesced	[14:20]
nubbins`	he threw all his bedding in the trash o.O	[14:20]
nubbins`	i guess his new accomodations don't provide for sleep	[14:20]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122595 << iirc he wants to supply customers with units. which isn't such a bad plan in any sense. tho a different thing than what we were originally doing. but no reason they can't tandem.	[14:21]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 16:05:45; danielpbarron: maybe also the former	[14:21]
nubbins`	anyway, done deal. now his old bedroom is a gloriously sun-lit paper printing studio.	[14:21]
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nubbins`	http://imgur.com/aQJWK8H	[14:22]
assbot	Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0No7F )	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	check it out! looks just like a print shop	[14:22]
nubbins`	those hanging pages are from a 1000-business-card job that i just finished up	[14:23]
nubbins`	a thousand cards is a lot of cutting ;/	[14:23]
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nubbins`	o and the telco gave us a new phone number. SEX-4-ART.	[14:24]
nubbins`	no joke	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122612 << it's actually a fine entry point to explain to anyone why exactly tcp/ip is so broken. because this IS NOT a trivial task. the price for ipv4 and it's undocumented, buggy, slow and haphazardously ad-hoc nat-routing model is that you can't find out by inspecting yourself. the half-assed, quarter-baked lazy slothful and aol-windowesque implementation means that yo	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	u can't simply dig hiostname, as plenty of machines don't have one. so whatcha gonna do ?	[14:25]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 16:29:14; ben_vulpes: \| \| \| \| ->08.68% (67,108,864B) 0x470070: ThreadGetMyExternalIP(void*) (net.cpp:379) << that this is a thing cracks me up	[14:25]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu has it.	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	and this is also a fine entry point for explaining to management noobs the meta point of why exactly a theoretical approach doesn't ever work. yes, you could read the tcp/ip spec and look for holes. those are the holes in the tcp/ip spec, not the holes in tcp/ip.	[14:27]
mircea_popescu	it's horrible not so much for what it wants to be on paper,	[14:27]
mircea_popescu	but for what its aspirations cause on the ground.	[14:27]
ascii_field	and then the holes in the implementations...	[14:27]
ascii_field	and the emergent crud from interplay of layers, etc	[14:28]
nubbins`	wait now, who's hanging wind chimes from my what?	[14:28]
mircea_popescu	so ima link this into the cfo/accountant discussion with Pierre_Rochard from yest.	[14:28]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` apparently the word is out. you and your bizarre kink.	[14:29]
nubbins`	matter of time, i guess	[14:29]
nubbins`	incidentally i used to keep a blog on this fetlife-esque website years and years ago	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	any good ?	[14:29]
nubbins`	memories have been coming back	[14:29]
nubbins`	yeah. lotta skin.	[14:29]
nubbins`	privacy on actual lockdown	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	(btw... fetlife scraping still ongoing. they "fixed" so many things meanwhile...)	[14:30]
nubbins`	saw!	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` you know there's nothing shameful about being a slut.	[14:30]
*	nubbins` nods sagely	[14:30]
nubbins`	no need to tell me	[14:30]
nubbins`	this site, iam.bmezine.com (still alive in a frankenstein-esque parody of its former self), was actually way ahead of its time	[14:30]
nubbins`	you could set your profile as public or private	[14:31]
nubbins`	then later they added a "tracker" feature that, when enabled, would give you a list of the usernames that have visited your page	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	the way bmezine worked is that a large group of brown shit (random idiots mostly looking into an intersting path to killing themselves, a service boxing did for most of the 1900s, up to about the 90s) got some yellow shit interspersed. these are people who they themselves saw a little further than most.	[14:32]
nubbins`	THEN they let you block people who used trackers on their own pages, etc etc	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	to their reminescence, bmezine, ie, what they saw there then, was way ahead of its time. so would have anything else been, wherever they happened to look.	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	and the rest are dead.	[14:32]
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nubbins`	whole thing was written in "powerbasic" which had the unfortunate side effect of all the URLs ending in .exe	[14:32]
nubbins`	like /showprofile.exe?nubbins etc	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	heh. powerball is a language now ? no wonder there's so many coders out there.	[14:33]
nubbins`	as you'd imagine, iam.bmezine.com created an insular environment that convinced a lotta fucked up people that the fucked up things they wanted to do to themselves were acceptable	[14:34]
mircea_popescu	obviously.	[14:34]
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nubbins`	the better to cry discrimination, &c	[14:34]
nubbins`	anyway, sordid tale. large chunk of my youth. met a lotta friends and an almost-wife, lost not quite a pound of flesh but close enough to it	[14:35]
nubbins`	founder ended up getting the site stolen from him by an ex, it went to shit, etc	[14:35]
nubbins`	oh, there was this other feature.	[14:36]
nubbins`	you could set your account so that users who hadn't made a blog post in __ months/weeks couldn't view your page	[14:36]
nubbins`	all of these are just band-aids, obv	[14:36]
nubbins`	but what an impressive array of band-aids they were	[14:37]
nubbins`	and implemented in a timely manner!	[14:37]
nubbins`	hmm. "I've got a weak spot for great branding, your company itself is a brand and it transfers so well into the work you do."	[14:38]
mats	mircea_popescu: in the works, i hope to have deliverables ready by the end of this month. do you want me to rent a server to host the thing?	[14:38]
nubbins`	^ email from a local	[14:38]
nubbins`	also, this was amazing	[14:39]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[14:39]
nubbins`	yesterday, the canadian province of alberta (canada's texas) elected a majority NDP (the leftmost party we've got) government	[14:39]
nubbins`	truly bizarre	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	mats wow impressive.	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	and nah, you're getting one.	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	founder ended up getting the site stolen from him by an ex, it went to shit, etc << you know the story of collarme ?	[14:41]
nubbins`	naw	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	ahaha. http://collarme.com/	[14:41]
assbot	Where is Collarme? \| Where is Collarme? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qnf5ox )	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	this ex stole just the domain names. ps - if you're into "building an online business" - forget the idiots trying to push "compliance" because hey, they live off the usg dole so gotta pretend like the usg matters to even be able to get up in the morning.	[14:42]
nubbins`	http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5945	[14:42]
assbot	Shannon Larratt Leaves ModBlog/BME \| Warren Ellis ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qnfibe )	[14:42]
ben_vulpes	bizpartner's glider club is getting scammed with SEO	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	exes are the real threat. they sunk a lot more ~profitable~ businesses than the various usg.agency constructs.	[14:42]
ben_vulpes	someone's making and selling gift certificates on their behalf	[14:42]
ben_vulpes	dudes at the field don't know the diff	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	heh. this is also a lot more common than commonly known.	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	"gift certificates" has been the primary way to move value from business to scammer since the 90s.	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	not credit card fraud. this.	[14:43]
nubbins`	i have maybe $300 in unspent gift cards in this house	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	whether groupon (usg mafia) gets it or ru or cn mafia gets it... still gotten.	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` anyway, only notable for the ending of the original post, "However this conflict is resolved, I now know that I cannot rely upon my former partner and dearest friend and in the following year may work to build a BDSM dating site that is run effectively, responsibly and for the benefit of its users, not as a personal kingdom."	[14:44]
mircea_popescu	muppets got it exactly fucking backwards.	[14:44]
nubbins`	heh	[14:45]
nubbins`	BME worked as a personal kingdom	[14:45]
nubbins`	failed as a committee-run thing	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	doh.	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	the us worked as a personal kingdom	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	failed, as a committee run thing.	[14:46]
ben_vulpes	most things do, if under competent kings right?	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	right.	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	you don't get to even hear about them otherwise. by the time you hear about amazon, or apple, or /we it's no longer on the table whether bezos is or is not competent.	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	o wow, "He is the writer of the graphic novel RED, adapted into the film starring Bruce Willis and Helen Mirren." << how the fuck did i miss this. you seen it nubbins` ?	[14:46]
nubbins`	mp that's a bio for warren ellis, not shannon larratt	[14:47]
nubbins`	8)	[14:47]
nubbins`	haven't seen it either way	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	teh mironova chick definitely could do with some manhandling	[14:47]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[14:47]
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ascii_field	exes were sinking kingdoms and empires since t=-inf	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	yup	[14:47]
nubbins`	https://www.facebook.com/notes/lukas-lukas-zpira/interview-with-shannon-larratt-followed-by-rachel-larratt-the-non-interview/409086949252718	[14:48]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1P0Qjx6 )	[14:48]
nubbins`	^ publicly viewable, no acct reqd	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, moral being : forget about putting your time and effort into "compliance". for one thing it's stupid. for the other thing, who the fuck are they ?! and finally it's deliberately made to not be a satisfiable requirement. just there to soak up your time and resources.	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	outright ignore "compliance", spend the time and resources on the harem instead.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	winning strat.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	(and no, i am not aware you can be a successful king without a harem. your gender is not particularly relevant, your sexual preferences are not particularly relevant either. but you will have a lot of intimate relationships with a lot of other people, who are comitted to you personally.)	[14:50]
nubbins`	"One of the things I discovered is that if someone else has more money than you and are willing to spend it on lawyers, "right and wrong" are not very important!"	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	doh.	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	fetlife bitterly discovered same recently. was kinda fun to watch.	[14:51]
nubbins`	ah, here we go.	[14:51]
ben_vulpes	guns by any other name kill as well.	[14:51]
nubbins`	"BME was hugely profitable. That said, because I trusted others to manage my finances, I was under the impression that BME was barely breaking even though it really was a license to print money. I was much more interested in BME on a creative level than a business level."	[14:51]
nubbins`	that's the elevator version right there	[14:51]
mircea_popescu	yeah, the funny thing about the human condition, in its fractally-deliberate misdesign, is that the slaves are altogether more likely to be creative than the masters.	[14:52]
ben_vulpes	i wonder to what degree that describes burning man's finances.	[14:52]
ben_vulpes	harem and slave are similar concepts in this model of "leadership"?	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	which is a fine entry point for explaining to the naive why exactly a properly explicit master-slave relationship is the best intimate arrangement available.	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes similar but not identical, and the difference is way out of scope here.	[14:53]
ben_vulpes	(harem member i suppose that i mean)	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	(as the above explanation, consider moldbug's very valid discussion of the guy with the ring that could kill. he who is secure in his authority makes excellent leadership. he who is not - horribru)	[14:53]
ascii_field	fnargl!	[14:54]
ascii_field	his bulbous majesty!	[14:54]
nubbins`	lel	[14:54]
nubbins`	https://instagram.com/rachellarratt/	[14:54]
assbot	Rachel Larratt (@rachellarratt) • Instagram photos and videos ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0QQ29 )	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	and to do a meta point here, to go with the meta point above : this entire discussion is a fine point to explain to the managerially challenged why you can't "control the evaporation". where intelligent people lay, nubbins' lateral discussion of "bullshot nobody cares about" sparked stuff people do seem to care about.	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	lotta win in laterality.	[14:55]
nubbins`	"All I need is , , and maybe a little adventure now and then."	[14:55]
nubbins`	suspiciously absent from list of things she needs: her daughter o.O	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` is her nose big enough to qualify as a rachel ?	[14:55]
nubbins`	no	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	scam.	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field yeah him. and incidentally, this is the secular driver of the collapse in quality of life and everything else seen since the 1700s (it is a horrid collapse once you do inflation-adjustments) : back then leadership was secure, and therefore either good or motivated to improve, ever so marginally.	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	today most models have insecure leadership, and so "corruption", which is NEVER a problem, ends up misrepresented as one.	[14:57]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: this was 98% of mr mold's theme	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	it's valid.	[14:58]
ascii_field	aha.	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	for that matter, the problem with yarvin was not the broad strokes, but all the empty mcdonalds wrappers he glued to them everywhere.	[14:58]
ascii_field	it is obvious as daylight, to anyone who gives a damn	[14:58]
ascii_field	what he found in the junkyard where he grew up - he glued, yes.	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	i guess it's possible he's just a bodysnatcher victim, rather than outright ill intended.	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	but this distinction without a difference /me can scarcely be interested in.	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	maybe if he had nice tits and i was fucking her. maybe.	[14:59]
ascii_field	famine victim.	[15:00]
ben_vulpes	sounds familiar	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field let's play a game. i quote and you guess.	[15:01]
ascii_field	shoot	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	Yes, that's very pretty. I heard a story once. In fact, I've heard a lot of stories in my time. They went along with the sound	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	of a tinny piano playing in the parlor downstairs."Mister, I met a man once when I was a kid," they'd always begin.	[15:03]
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ascii_field	twain ?	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	hehe nope.	[15:05]
ascii_field	who then	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	a little known jew named epstein	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	the wachowski brothers of the 40s, julius and phillip	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	(it's from casablanca, bogart says it to the stupid priss w/e her name is)	[15:06]
ascii_field	hm how's this plug in	[15:07]
mircea_popescu	she was a "famine victim" too.	[15:08]
ascii_field	famine victims do the stupidest imaginable shit, like eating dirt and sand, drinking sea water	[15:08]
ascii_field	sometimes - nutritious insects in the dirt	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	not all of them.	[15:08]
ascii_field	not all of them << the remaining - starve quietly, with honour ?	[15:11]
mircea_popescu	the remaining never gave a shit in the first place.	[15:11]
ascii_field	wai wat	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	there's a reason nubbins` finds the mentally insane so fascinating. that reason is that he has the deep intuition that the only people worth the mention are the ones that don't actually care.	[15:12]
ascii_field	paging herr limonov!	[15:12]
ascii_field	'nuts are the only sane folks' - oldest meme in the book - not wrong, really, either	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field anyway, if it's not obvious, the tinny piano in the parlor downstairs explicitly says the woman's a whore.	[15:13]
ascii_field	well yes	[15:14]
mircea_popescu	she never actually confronts this, which is why To Have and Have Not is a much better movie than casablanca.	[15:14]
mircea_popescu	it's also why it had to be made (it's quite obviously a remake of casablanca, without the "girl next door" slime befouling it). that point has to be addressed.	[15:15]
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nubbins`	so i have five bottles of neutral-pH bookbinding glue	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	party ?	[15:18]
nubbins`	cracked the seal on one today -- solid mass of rubberish white inside	[15:18]
nubbins`	crack the seals on the other four -- same thing.	[15:18]
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nubbins`	http://imgur.com/BwIOrA2	[15:19]
assbot	Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0TdSB )	[15:19]
nubbins`	so i call the supplier	[15:19]
nubbins`	"yeah, we don't have any more in stock, and we're not expecting any more... we can give you a refund on thursday"	[15:20]
mod6	ascii_field: I'm running with this patch: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150504/asciilifeform_orphanage_thermonuke_2d219fdd1a0da960be38797566e9c0820df11ce6.patch	[15:20]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1P0Tnti )	[15:20]
nubbins`	and that was the moment i said to myself "fuck currys, i'm ordering from talas from now on"	[15:20]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[15:21]
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ascii_field	mod6: aha i asked because you specified 'orphanage burner' - which was the 1st try of this	[15:21]
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mod6	OH	[15:21]
mod6	my bad.	[15:21]
mod6	didn't mean to confuse them.	[15:22]
ascii_field	very different animals.	[15:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 209900 @ 0.00022117 = 46.4236 BTC [-] {2}	[15:22]
ascii_field	the thermonuker is (very tentatively) a candidate for merge.	[15:22]
ascii_field	imho	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	should really see what itproduces as a blockchain first. at a bare minimum	[15:23]
ascii_field	aha	[15:23]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: which is why i took the time to set it going.	[15:23]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: take a few min. to read the patch, if you have not. the behaviour should be logically equivalent to virginal 0.5.3 with an orphanage of zero	[15:25]
ascii_field	(or a freshly crashed and coldbooted one)	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	i have.	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	and i agree.	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	nevertheless...	[15:25]
*	ascii_field wishes to hear from other folks who have.	[15:26]
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mod6	and as far as valgrind, I'll do some stuff with it as I get through these other things.	[15:33]
mod6	im through stage 1 of the gentoo stuff; but now need to document and get that published hopefully by the start of next week. then need to get it setup for cross-compiling.	[15:34]
mod6	I also want to focus on the testing of your patch ascii_field. If it is to be merged, we must ensure that we do not regress.	[15:35]
ascii_field	iirc we don't even have a uclibc build going.	[15:37]
ascii_field	victory is far, very far.	[15:37]
mod6	what needs to be done there?	[15:38]
*	ascii_field does not yet know	[15:39]
mod6	ah, ok.	[15:39]
*	ascii_field has all 256 shiva hands full	[15:39]
mod6	:]	[15:40]
mod6	ahh, so this is for embedded systems -- to replace a bulky/asinine glibc?	[15:41]
ascii_field	aha.	[15:41]
ascii_field	my 'portatron' (buildroot) is 100% uclibc	[15:41]
ascii_field	imho glibc 'consider harmful'	[15:41]
ascii_field	but this is a potentially bottomless can of worms, and i have no fucking idea what will happen when bitcoind is built with uclibc	[15:42]
mod6	ok. any chance that would get rid of the libnss/iconv dingleberries? or do those persist?	[15:43]
ascii_field	it would	[15:43]
mod6	ok, so we need to get that in the mix and test a bit.	[15:43]
ascii_field	but could open portal into parallel universe full of unknown devils	[15:43]
mod6	ah-ha	[15:43]
mod6	gotcha.	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	mod6 the entire point of moving to uglibc was to nuke those	[15:44]
mod6	well, i guess we'll never know until we try. i'll make sure we get on to toying with that soon.	[15:44]
mod6	mircea_popescu: make sense.	[15:44]
ascii_field	http://www.etalabs.net/compare_libcs.html	[15:45]
ascii_field	^ see also	[15:45]
mod6	nice, thanks.	[15:46]
ascii_field	take note, items such as allocator - are in libc!	[15:46]
ascii_field	and their function - varies, yes	[15:46]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2015/the-four-points-of-this-morning-in-color-any-questions/ :D	[16:12]
assbot	The four points of this morning, in color. Any questions ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1c6FO9F )	[16:12]
nubbins`	<+ascii_field> iirc we don't even have a uclibc build going. <<< i was neck-deep in this before i got sidetracked by life	[16:13]
nubbins`	at some point i'll get back into it	[16:13]
nubbins`	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122689	[16:14]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 17:14:07; ascii_field: nubbins`: everyone with the 'one of these days.' you're gonna make mircea_popescu's head explode.	[16:14]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122762 << scoopy counts as logs too y'know. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122543	[16:26]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 17:35:05; nubbins`: yesterday, the canadian province of alberta (canada's texas) elected a majority NDP (the leftmost party we've got) government	[16:26]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 15:52:39; scoopbot_revived: News! A not-so-new era begins in Alberta politics. URL: http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/06/a-not-so-new-era-begins-in-alberta-politics/	[16:26]
nubbins`	haw	[16:26]
pete_dushenski	also, article updated with... yet another personal connection to ndp.	[16:27]
pete_dushenski	i wouldn't say i'm ashamed, but my goodness does socialism run deep in my veins.	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	kinda what being a jew is.	[16:27]
pete_dushenski	the lulz then ? this is on the ukrainian orthodox side.	[16:28]
pete_dushenski	i'm getting hit both ways.	[16:28]
pete_dushenski	no way out !	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	basically, jews came up with the first social security system. this, cca 2000 ad.	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	bc*	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	christians then imported it	[16:28]
pete_dushenski	sure, taking the sabbath	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	nah, not just that. having kids eat at different houses each day so they could stay in school ?	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	have debts periodically reset ?	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	etc.	[16:29]
pete_dushenski	ah yes, jubilee	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	(note incidentally that the ancient superset of family life - each kid eats with his mother - is harem life - each kid eats with all the mothers)	[16:29]
pete_dushenski	what's the story on the kids eating around ? first i've heard of it.	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	this is how the jews thought best to prepare elites.	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski what do you think yeshiva was originally ?	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	this arrangement.	[16:30]
pete_dushenski	so seven different households, weekly rotation ?	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	more like 30 or w/e	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	that's how student = vagabond even became a hting.	[16:31]
pete_dushenski	aha. and this yeshivic arrangement is part of social security as well ?	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	well isn't it ?	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	"govt" gives you a meal ticket.	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	the boys aren't expected to SEDUCE those married women and OVERPOWER their husbands, are they ?	[16:32]
pete_dushenski	aha or "community" feeds	[16:32]
pete_dushenski	surely not.	[16:32]
pete_dushenski	but if they do, a man is he !	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	hardly. more like an inhuman force of nature that has the potential to be massively disruptive and interfacing him to the village may well cost more than it's worth.	[16:33]
pete_dushenski	so a rotating set of meals as a test, a benchmark, to ensure cohesion and the integrity of the social fabric.	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	no, just, to make taxation bearable and spending of public funds effectual.	[16:35]
pete_dushenski	and if boy is not worth it ? well what of him ?	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	this is how boy becomes the castrated sort of cvasi-intellectual jewish world always produced. the women love the style because it flatters their inferiority complex, the men tolerate it because they don't like fighting (or think they don't, because they grew up the same way)	[16:38]
pete_dushenski	and what of the boys who don't stay or won't be castrated ? the ones who seduce and overpower ?	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	like... who ?	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	im sure they have excellent personal histories. but, much like in the case of the messiah you hadn't heard of, the "culture" or w/e it is fails to meaningfully represent them.	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	(this is ITS failure, try it as it might to misrepresent it as theirs)	[16:41]
pete_dushenski	so spinoza, einstein, maimonides, freud, bohr aren't meaningfully represented ?	[16:44]
kakobrekla	http://www.iflscience.org/japan-engineers-design-robotic-bear-to-aid-in-assisted-suicide/	[16:44]
assbot	Japan Engineers Design Robotic Bear to aid in Assisted Suicide - IFLScience ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6hdz7 )	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[16:44]
kakobrekla	>SeppuKuma also offers 23 very different methods one can choose to end their life, including Everlasting Sleep (lethal injection), Pillow Kisses (suffocation), Peaceful Breath (helium asphyxia) and Sleepy time Hug which is where the robotic bear strangles its partner until their pulse stops for 15 minutes.	[16:44]
kakobrekla	hard call	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	wow.	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski who the hell's any of these dudes overpower ?	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	take einstein. he died lieing about his gfs. didja get that bit in the log ?	[16:45]
pete_dushenski	hm yes.	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	what overpower is this /	[16:47]
nubbins`	pillow kisses	[16:47]
nubbins`	nb	[16:47]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu we might need to go back to the maccabees for a proper example.	[16:47]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla no fucking to death, amazingly enough	[16:47]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[16:47]
nubbins`	"in this method, a pillow softly kisses you as your body thrashes wildly until brain death occurs"	[16:48]
pete_dushenski	http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Mercedes-snowed-over-May-6-2015-e1430941436595.jpg << ndp wins. snow day immediately thereafter. god cackles.	[16:49]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1JrzwfX )	[16:49]
nubbins`	hmm, i ordered that glue in february. maybe it froze during transit.	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	i think i'd have had a ball as a woman.	[16:51]
trinque	nubbins`: ndp's the one shouting about taxing the rich more?	[16:53]
pete_dushenski	trinque yup.	[16:53]
nubbins`	that'd be them	[16:54]
trinque	that'll work; good for them	[16:55]
nubbins`	ehhhh	[16:55]
nubbins`	i don't think it will	[16:55]
nubbins`	but i guess we'll see	[16:55]
pete_dushenski	ndp = boost corporate taxes from 10 to 12%, increase min. wage to $15/hr, 12% tax rate on income between $125,000 to $150,000; 13% on income between $150,000 to $200,000; 14% between $200,000 and $300,000 and 15% over $300,000, all up from 10% flat provincial tax	[16:55]
pete_dushenski	federal is still stepped, alberta WAS the only province with flat income tax.	[16:56]
mircea_popescu	you don't understand how the world works. when you're out of money, you find someone who has some and either steal or beg for it.	[16:56]
nubbins`	meanwhile here in twodogland, HST just went up 2%	[16:56]
pete_dushenski	nubbins` gross.	[16:56]
nubbins`	we found some oil and it went to our heads	[16:56]
nubbins`	and danny millions sold us yet another boondoggle in the form of muskrat falls	[16:57]
nubbins`	onward through the fog!	[16:57]
pete_dushenski	jurov at least the new premier is happy to be a woman.	[16:57]
trinque	mircea_popescu: rich people have literally infinite money	[16:57]
trinque	and after all they're just sitting on it	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	for the record, laratt as glider gets pretty thoroughly routed on http://www.metafilter.com/49480/I-Pledge-Allegiance-to-the-Confederate-States#1222181 and subsequent	[16:58]
assbot	I Pledge Allegiance to the Confederate States... \| MetaFilter ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6iPZG )	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	i should hope the man's mental processes weren't as disordered in all fields as he displays here.	[16:58]
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nubbins`	mircea_popescu zentastic.com, see for yourself	[16:58]
nubbins`	(tldr: mostly, yup.)	[16:59]
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scoopbot_revived	News! The four points of this morning, in color. Any questions ? URL: http://trilema.com/2015/the-four-points-of-this-morning-in-color-any-questions/	[17:01]
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mircea_popescu	lol wb scoopbot_revived . apparently it does catchup work now, which is great.	[17:02]
pete_dushenski	scoopy still doesn't talk to assbot...	[17:04]
pete_dushenski	for titles.	[17:04]
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mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski what do you mean ?	[17:05]
nubbins`	i had no idea how many github repositories are stuffed with copyrighted fonts	[17:05]
nubbins`	o.O	[17:05]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu upon review of scoopbot_revived's exquisite design, which includes the titles, nothing !	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	"Sure, we can all agree that the assumptions made about the nature of blacks at the time was wrong, but that doesn't give us the right to condemn slave owners who didn't know any better. We don't condemn cave people for eating uncooked meat just because they hadn't discovered fire yet, do we?"	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	ahaha epic.	[17:06]
trinque	nubbins`: that's the accepted way to find fonts among designers these days	[17:06]
trinque	ext:ttf site:github.com derpy font	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile, i just had a very bloody steak. must be because i've not yet discovered how to make beef unedible.	[17:06]
trinque	teh googles	[17:06]
nubbins`	otf baby!	[17:07]
nubbins`	ttf is vulgar	[17:07]
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jurov	nope. had to manually patch "GaramondNo8" ttf files	[17:09]
nubbins`	garamond is nice.	[17:09]
*	nubbins` uses adobe version ;/	[17:10]
jurov	https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434262 gory details	[17:12]
assbot	Bug 434262 – media-fonts/urwvn-fonts - wrong license due to vn garamond ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6k7Up )	[17:12]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[17:17]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122989 << l0l - how about as an elephant? eagle ?	[17:17]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 19:47:33; mircea_popescu: i think i'd have had a ball as a woman.	[17:17]
ascii_field	what algo one even uses to answer this hypothetical.	[17:18]
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nubbins`	heh	[17:19]
nubbins`	I'D HAVE HAD A BALL AS AN EAGLE	[17:20]
nubbins`	this is prob not untrue	[17:20]
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jurov	guess imma open another bugreport. i tried what's there in the urwvn-fonts versio	[17:24]
jurov	package.. and it's damn ugly	[17:24]
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danielpbarron	!up schmidty	[17:49]
trinque	re: font thread, anyone have a monospaced font with decent word shape?	[17:50]
trinque	I'm using terminus atm with the letter spacing cranked down a bit, works ok	[17:50]
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fluffypony	http://www.globalpost.com/article/6537732/2015/05/04/moldova-protest-stolen-1-billion	[17:53]
fluffypony	lol	[17:53]
assbot	Someone stole $1 billion from Moldova. That's an eighth of its GDP \| GlobalPost ... ( http://bit.ly/1byCSCg )	[17:53]
trinque	???Our country is a poor and agrarian country,??? he told GlobalPost on Monday. ???But it???s home to decent people who want their country to flourish, to be closer to European standards, and for it to find its economic niche alongside the European Union.??? << lol europe pls halp	[17:55]
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trinque	is this the only political issue in the region, whether to be eaten by the EU or Russia?	[17:55]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce-coruptia-nu-va-putea-fi-niciodata-eliminata/ << any interest in translating this for the non-romanian-speakers like me ?	[17:58]
assbot	De ce coruptia nu va putea fi niciodata eliminata on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDjMY )	[17:58]
pete_dushenski	if not, i'd be willing to take a hack at it.	[17:58]
trinque	and what I wonder is whether to expect a war over the partitioning of eastern europe, or whether the basic agreement on who gets what has already been made	[17:58]
trinque	I could easily see the latter	[17:58]
pete_dushenski	http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/150506013759601.html << for poor bingoboingo.	[17:59]
assbot	Pacquiao sued by fans for concealing injury - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDqYK )	[17:59]
danielpbarron	!up schmidty	[17:59]
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pete_dushenski	trinque deal already made between germany and russia ? you think ?	[18:00]
danielpbarron	schmidty, how did you find this place?	[18:00]
trinque	pete_dushenski: dunno what I think, asking the question though. I'm not well informed on eastern european politics.	[18:01]
trinque	my inclination is to believe all these bastards running the largest socialist states talk to each other	[18:01]
schmidty	saw a provocative looking comment about the blocksize and i am falling down a rabbit hole now	[18:01]
jurov	there were lots of such deals, most recent: http://www.globalpost.com/article/6537732/2015/05/04/moldova-protest-stolen-1-billion	[18:01]
assbot	Someone stole $1 billion from Moldova. That's an eighth of its GDP \| GlobalPost ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDHeq )	[18:02]
jurov	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances	[18:02]
assbot	Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDHLh )	[18:02]
jurov	sry i meant this	[18:02]
jurov	but russia very resents and already violated it by annexing crimea	[18:02]
jurov	except they did not violate it, but these kiev nazis	[18:03]
jurov	etc.etc.	[18:03]
trinque	that seems to be the issue looking from far outside	[18:04]
trinque	after the USSR collapse, all these fragments of the USSR military left outside the border of russia	[18:04]
trinque	and russians that migrated outside russia	[18:04]
trinque	so the cynic in me says the whole nato/russia game is merely ironing out the details of the new russian borders, considering the above	[18:05]
ascii_field	trinque: in all cases but ua, accurate. the bulk of ua, on the other hand, was created by hruschev with a pencil	[18:05]
ascii_field	the russians - did not move.	[18:05]
ascii_field	map - moved.	[18:05]
jurov	and tatars were moved, too	[18:06]
trinque	ascii_field: ah right, land was gifted to "ukraine"	[18:06]
ascii_field	when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not.	[18:06]
pete_dushenski	to the enemy, your power is never 'ok'	[18:07]
pete_dushenski	'power isn't how the world works!'	[18:07]
pete_dushenski	it works my going on between two ferns with zach g.	[18:08]
ascii_field	stalin was a pathologically forgiving fella.	[18:08]
pete_dushenski	and holding seflie sticks.	[18:08]
ascii_field	all the folks who helped the germans do their thing - not one in ten thousand answered with his skin.	[18:08]
ascii_field	and now fellate usg.	[18:08]
pete_dushenski	hm. stalin painted as being too forgiving. that's a new one.	[18:09]
ascii_field	very forgiving. had temp. moratorium on death penalty after ww2, even.	[18:09]
ascii_field	(minus nuremberg folks & vlasov's army)	[18:09]
pete_dushenski	who other than vlasov's army helped germans ? and why were they spared ?	[18:11]
trinque	ascii_field: does make all of it sound like russia's trying to maintain form, while nato's trying thwart this as it can	[18:11]
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trinque	*trying to	[18:11]
jurov	alf some time ago explained russia needs buffer zone between itself and eu/nato. and that by any costs.	[18:12]
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ascii_field	jurov: more basic than this - needs to not have u.s. nukes across the street (ua, pl, etc)	[18:12]
ascii_field	just as usa did not like them in cuba	[18:12]
ascii_field	how much would usa like ru tank corps 'training mission' in mexican border weekly ?	[18:13]
jurov	yes, only chineses allowed	[18:13]
jurov	and pakistani	[18:13]
jurov	and iran eventually	[18:13]
ascii_field	last time cn had major shenanigans on ru border, there was a mini-war	[18:13]
ascii_field	(damansk)	[18:13]
jurov	ascii_field: they do have stuff in nikaragua	[18:14]
ascii_field	ru?	[18:14]
jurov	yes	[18:14]
ascii_field	even in cuba, until late '90s, they had	[18:14]
ascii_field	then went broke	[18:14]
jurov	and why are defensive radar/anti-missile systems not ok then?	[18:15]
jurov	in central eu	[18:15]
ascii_field	ask usa why they are not ok in cuba	[18:15]
trinque	doesn't seem to be a question of "ok"	[18:15]
trinque	more like one of those ratcheting ties for a truck load	[18:15]
jurov	ru ever tried to ship defensive systems to cuba?	[18:16]
ascii_field	aha.	[18:16]
ascii_field	thing is, 'defensive' is a deceptive word here	[18:16]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Athletes compete injured all the time.	[18:17]
ascii_field	a machine that lets you detect other fella's rockets 5sec earlier, is really as much a lethal weapon as a nuke per se	[18:17]
trinque	ascii_field: sure, and an anti-missile missile launcher can probably fire the other kind too, right?	[18:17]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo for sure. no such thing as perfect health for athletes.	[18:17]
trinque	"don't worry, this is only an anti-gunman gun"	[18:18]
trinque	oh good.	[18:18]
BingoBoingo	Now denying the ketorolac shot, far bigger issue	[18:18]
ascii_field	trinque: basic idea is that anything that potentially tips balance of thermonukefest in your favour, is an act of aggression from the other fella's pov	[18:18]
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ascii_field	and that this is perfectly pedestrian fact, regardless of whether you like usg or putin or kim jong un or hitler	[18:19]
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trinque	of course	[18:19]
trinque	also stands to reason that I can lie and say my nuke installations are all merely anti-ICBM installations	[18:19]
jurov	ascii_field: you know what is the only possible response to such doctrine?	[18:19]
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jurov	trying to bleed ru out, again	[18:20]
ascii_field	jurov: sure	[18:20]
ascii_field	what other could there be.	[18:20]
BingoBoingo	;;google Nike Hercules	[18:20]
gribble	Ed's Nike Missile Web Site: ; MIM-14 Nike Hercules - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Project Nike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:	[18:20]
BingoBoingo	^ trinque Nike for anti-Bomber duty	[18:20]
trinque	we're an odd species	[18:20]
BingoBoingo	*Nuke	[18:20]
trinque	imagine another one came along and saw us all with nukes pointed everywhere, and it wanted the planet	[18:21]
ascii_field	eltsin died, ru spat out the usg cock, and is to bleed for this, yes	[18:21]
trinque	just fake a few nuke radar signatures and boom, planet fumigated	[18:21]
trinque	from an external threat perspective we're as weak as could be	[18:21]
trinque	let rama zip through the solar system once and then ask me how much I give a shit what the border of transnistria is	[18:23]
ascii_field	very easy to not give a fuck about a border that isn't through your house.	[18:23]
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jurov	this is not only your house	[18:25]
ascii_field	aha it's also hitler's.	[18:25]
ascii_field	'learn to share,' he will say.	[18:25]
jurov	i see everyone who is not you is hitler	[18:26]
ascii_field	obamitler	[18:27]
ascii_field	(next year - clitler!)	[18:28]
trinque	heh we could've had mitler	[18:28]
*	trinque is going to need to move back to TX during clitler; they'll be going apeshit over it	[18:28]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122855 <<< sisters now	[18:36]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 18:02:08; mircea_popescu: the wachowski brothers of the 40s, julius and phillip	[18:36]
jurov	https://dennikn.sk/124574/shooty-stalin-a-hitler/?ref=mpm heh "they like you in your country?"	[18:37]
assbot	Shooty: Stalin a Hitler ... ( http://bit.ly/1AFXD5z )	[18:37]
trinque	BingoBoingo: just read that page; sounds like yeah, can be used for either surface->air or surface->surface	[18:46]
trinque	the propaganda around this shit is thick.	[18:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 290850 @ 0.00021998 = 63.9812 BTC [-] {2}	[18:46]
trinque	so rolling from a defensive use to offensive is a matter of loading ammo, not replacing the gun	[18:47]
pete_dushenski	'gtbc' update : cantor fitzgerald has a 100 share buy order for at $25.00. 52wk range: $37.98 - $94.86. heh.	[18:47]
ascii_field	;;later tell mircea_popescu key blaster is operational	[18:47]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:47]
trinque	why the fuck wouldn't russia think we eventually intend to first-strike them	[18:47]
BingoBoingo	trinque: But, the range of the nike is rather short. St Louis's Nikes couldn't hit Chicago and Vice Versa.	[18:47]
pete_dushenski	'gbtc'*	[18:47]
cazalla	danielpbarron, did bravetheworld end up naming the people she references in her article?	[18:47]
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ascii_field	;;later tell mircea_popescu a good fraction of the existing db overlaps with the first coupla-1000 of the dump	[18:48]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:48]
danielpbarron	cazalla, nope not yet	[18:48]
ascii_field	http://nosuchlabs.com/stats	[18:48]
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assbot	So far:	[18:48]
danielpbarron	although her point #5 makes me suspect it is max keiser or something	[18:48]
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pete_dushenski	zynga lays off 364 people, loses a penny a share, stock up 7%. farmville bringing in 1/4 what is was 2 years ago.	[18:50]
cazalla	danielpbarron, i think max and stacy are utter trash	[18:50]
danielpbarron	me too	[18:51]
cazalla	anyway.. i think bravetheworld was warned about the alex jones types	[18:51]
trinque	ascii_field: pretty cool, and thanks for providing that	[18:51]
danielpbarron	warned when? by who?	[18:52]
cazalla	i told her in here like a year ago	[18:53]
BingoBoingo	Ah, the Phuctor is being fed!	[18:56]
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pete_dushenski	http://karakullake.blogspot.ca/2015/05/22-countries-great-britain-did-not.html	[19:00]
assbot	Tamerlane's Thoughts: 22 countries Great Britain did not invade ... ( http://bit.ly/1AG1rE2 )	[19:00]
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trinque	pete_dushenski: heh, so many of those are "landlocked, why bother"	[19:02]
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pete_dushenski	mebbe for the sake of completeness ? if the brits were detail-obsessed nuts, they'd leave no stone unturned.	[19:03]
pete_dushenski	not that they were exactly half-assed.	[19:03]
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BingoBoingo	ascii_field: Keyblaster seems to have paused	[19:09]
ascii_field	BingoBoingo: i know	[19:09]
ascii_field	BingoBoingo: adding error detect	[19:09]
BingoBoingo	k	[19:09]
BingoBoingo	Once the number of keys gets up there I'm writing this up as news	[19:15]
danielpbarron	!up schmidty i found this place when i was reading up on scams on the forums. MPOE-PR ftw!	[19:15]
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pete_dushenski	https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37443/the-other-investors << moar garza, in case anyone's bored.	[19:17]
assbot	The Other investors \| HashTalk - Ideas, Talk, and Hardware - Bitcoin & Scrypt Mining ... ( http://bit.ly/1AG3s2O )	[19:17]
pete_dushenski	"Thanks for ruining my first crypto experience everyone involved! I'll still be around like Jerry Springers audience just to ooh and ahhh and yell punch that bit**from time to time." << some poor commenter.	[19:21]
pete_dushenski	in other news, "Netanyahu's right-wing Likud sealed an agreement with ultranationalist Jewish Home, which advocates annexation of parts of occupied territory Palestinians seek for a state."	[19:23]
ascii_field	;;later tell mircea_popescu ERROR: certificate common name “keys.mattrude.com” doesn’t match requested host name “keyserver.mattrude.com” << when fetching fresh sks from dulap	[19:25]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[19:25]
ascii_field	mega-ftmeade-l0l ?	[19:25]
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pete_dushenski	!s spgnux	[19:27]
assbot	0 results for 'spgnux' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=spgnux	[19:27]
pete_dushenski	http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/06/us-china-software-idUSKBN0NQ2A220150506	[19:27]
assbot	Tea to tech: China's cybersecurity push sparks a 'gold rush'	[19:27]
pete_dushenski	"Last November, the 49-year old entrepreneur, who has no technology background, strode into a Beijing ballroom to pitch his latest made-in-China product: SPGnux, a Linux-based operating system he says could replace Microsoft Corp's Windows."	[19:28]
pete_dushenski	today spgnux is in 1600 chinese gov offices.	[19:28]
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jurov	pity the did not adopt and finish reactos.. would like to see utter panic at m$	[19:40]
jurov	*they	[19:41]
jurov	if there was winxp drop replacement	[19:41]
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danielpbarron	!up xcpep-mobile hi who are you?	[19:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95700 @ 0.00022135 = 21.1832 BTC [+]	[19:45]
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danielpbarron	!up schmidty figure out that GPG yet?	[19:48]
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schmidty	danielpbarron yep, getting into wot now	[19:49]
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schmidty	!register 1CF87B48F45FECB1C31625988C3B6B1EED7494DF	[19:53]
assbot	Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 1CF87B48F45FECB1C31625988C3B6B1EED7494DF. This may take a few moments.	[19:53]
assbot	Key ED7494DF / "Mike Schmidt " successfully imported.	[19:53]
assbot	Registration successful.	[19:53]
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cazalla	http://motherboard.vice.com/read/unless-everyone-using-bitcoin-makes-this-radical-change-the-currency-will-die (block size limit rubbish)	[19:54]
assbot	Unless Everyone Using Bitcoin Makes This Radical Change, the Currency Will Die \| Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1DSVGTr )	[19:54]
danielpbarron	!v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.schmidty.1:80a6966e28d66c718e893cf54cd773075f48c54a4bf99f85a378e7e3a45acdd5	[19:55]
assbot	Successfully added a rating of 1 for schmidty with note: saw a provocative looking comment about the blocksize and is now falling down a rabbit hole	[19:55]
danielpbarron	schmidty, now you can voice yourself with /msg assbot !up	[19:56]
schmidty	danielpbarron appreciated. i have much reading to do	[19:56]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126350 @ 0.0002214 = 27.9739 BTC [+] {2}	[20:06]
danielpbarron	"and the file size of each block can be up to 1 megabyte." << heh. everything is a file!	[20:14]
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mod6	asciilifeform: here's an update as to where my test of v0.5.3.1+Orphanage_Thermonuke is at: http://dpaste.com/3J5K2JB.txt	[20:16]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1comTIp )	[20:16]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 202395 @ 0.00022329 = 45.1928 BTC [+] {2}	[20:18]
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mod6	for comparison sake, here's what the machine looked like before and just after bitcoind with this patch was executed: http://dpaste.com/094DT78.txt	[20:19]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DSY900 )	[20:19]
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mod6	dentist numbed me up so much even my nose is numb.	[20:24]
danielpbarron	!up rgove hello!	[20:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 222073 @ 0.00021637 = 48.0499 BTC [-] {2}	[20:27]
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mircea_popescu	!up schmidty	[20:38]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu!	[20:38]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform heya!	[20:38]
mircea_popescu	seems just keys/keyserver domain change heh.	[20:39]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: thing's churning (largely overlap with previous shots, so werker queue is mostly empty).	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	grand!	[20:39]
*	mircea_popescu goes to witness this splendor	[20:39]
asciilifeform	cannot exclude that jokers signed fictional subdomain	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	indeed.	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	weshould find out in no time tho.	[20:39]
asciilifeform	presently piping from own box	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	Submissions: 5072	[20:40]
asciilifeform	but would go substantially faster if done from dulap local	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	chugging along.	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	so do it from local	[20:40]
asciilifeform	aha, wanted to 'combine the pleasurable with the useful' and get fresh sks dump 1st	[20:40]
asciilifeform	then ran into that oddity.	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	it's noted, and thats good enough	[20:41]
asciilifeform	so we ignore the cert spew ?	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	if indeed "they" signed wrong domain, as opposed to matt rude being derpy, we will know down the road.	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	so yeah.	[20:41]
asciilifeform	the interesting aspect is that i get no such thing from own box.	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	this is pretty interesting. lemme see	[20:42]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: wget --wait 1 -e robots=off -p -m https://keyserver.mattrude.com/dump/current/	[20:42]
assbot	Index of /dump/current/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT0SXs )	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	!gettrust schmidty	[20:42]
assbot	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user schmidty: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=schmidty \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/schmidty/	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	mike_c "The requested URL /wot/trust/ was not found on this server."	[20:42]
danielpbarron	oh it's because he just joined today, and that site updates every 24 hours	[20:43]
miaviator	Michail1 midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio	[20:43]
miaviator	Michail1 midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio	[20:43]
miaviator	Michail1 midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	mike_c oh nm because it's today, soz.	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	right danielpbarron i forgot :p	[20:43]
schmidty	already causing trouble	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform "OpenSSL: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure"	[20:44]
asciilifeform	l0l!	[20:44]
asciilifeform	on what?	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/145951/cant-wget-from-github-sslv3-handshake-error << apparently known bug.	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform on both wget and curl.	[20:45]
asciilifeform	l0ltr0n1c	[20:45]
asciilifeform	but not what we get on dulap.	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	"Now after a lot of research, it appears that there is an incompatibility between OpenSSL < 0.9.8k and OpenSSL 1.0.1."	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	because why not, ssl lv3 is a standard-as-implementred thing.	[20:46]
*	asciilifeform loading locally, will push to dulap - but this is retarded and ought to be addressed	[20:47]
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asciilifeform	will post manifest of snapshot	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	basically, "The version of OpenSSL on RHEL5 (and its derivatives) doesn't advertise support for TLS at all. It only does SSLv3 and SSLv2.	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	The version of OpenSSL on RHEL6 (and its derivatives) supports TLS all the way up to TLSv1.2. It also does SSLv3, but it wants to negotiate TLS."	[20:47]
asciilifeform	this still does not explain the 'keys' vs 'keyserver' thing	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	indeed.	[20:48]
asciilifeform	smells verminous.	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	isn't this heap of dung fascinating, that whatever way you turn something oozes ? if only we were phorid flies.	[20:49]
*	asciilifeform chitters inquisitively	[20:49]
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asciilifeform	piping locally at ~10M/s	[20:52]
asciilifeform	what is the profit - other than brute sabotage - in fucking with keyservs?	[20:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 437081 @ 0.00021384 = 93.4654 BTC [-] {4}	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	im persuaded it's just random breakage at this point.	[20:54]
asciilifeform	'keyserver' turned into 'keys' and with different fp by chance ?	[20:55]
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asciilifeform	lucky cosmic rays?	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	guy changed it for reasons, forgot to update.	[20:55]
asciilifeform	if he changed it, it ought to be changed for planet	[20:55]
asciilifeform	not dulap and (not mybox)	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	prolly should drop him an email. are you or should i ?	[20:55]
asciilifeform	try the url in browser 1st	[20:56]
asciilifeform	which cert you get	[20:56]
asciilifeform	(anyone else? plz)	[20:56]
mike_c	mircea_popescu: ah, yes, I added a better page for not found users, but not on the trust page. will fix.	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform why would my browser work any better ? it also fails.	[20:59]
asciilifeform	mike_c: be so kind as to load https://keyserver.mattrude.com/dump/current/ and describe the ssl cert you see	[20:59]
assbot	Index of /dump/current/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT239n )	[20:59]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: funnily, works on the boxes here	[20:59]
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mike_c	comodo sha256 cert good through 11/15	[21:00]
asciilifeform	fp?	[21:00]
mike_c	KeyID=90 af 6a 3a 94 5a 0b d8 90 ea 12 56 73 df 43 b4 3a 28 da e7	[21:00]
mike_c	thumbprint: 13 d2 41 7e f3 49 a0 5c 4f 75 2a ef e6 10 c5 c4 95 70 2d df	[21:01]
asciilifeform	sha1	[21:01]
mike_c	yes	[21:01]
asciilifeform	what's the sha256 ?	[21:01]
mike_c	6c be 5c 74 ce 25 a3 83 8c 96 8e fe a9 ec 59 1f 0a 13 8a 7e	[21:01]
mike_c	hm	[21:01]
mike_c	or maybe this? ‎00 b8 d9 04 8e 1d f6 05 6d 9e 3d fa e7 d6 16 4d f9	[21:02]
trinque	F2 D0 E4 FE A2 5B ED F8 DD AC 6E C7 51 30 4A 5C	[21:02]
trinque	B5 C2 59 25 50 BA 33 1C 05 16 B5 A9 B6 92 93 41	[21:02]
trinque	is what I see	[21:02]
trinque	meant to be one line	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[21:02]
asciilifeform	i see what trinque saw	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	mike_c your's too short.	[21:03]
mike_c	yeah..	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	sha256 is as long as tringque's.	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	ima curl out of some random boxes now just ot see	[21:03]
mike_c	i've got a public key	[21:03]
mike_c	that help?	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/01D6H49	[21:05]
assbot	dpaste: 01D6H49 ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT2sZt )	[21:05]
asciilifeform	i got a snapshot btw	[21:05]
danielpbarron	F2 D0 E4 FE A2 5B ED F8 DD AC 6E C7 51 30 4A 5C B5 C2 59 25 50 BA 33 1C 05 16 B5 A9 B6 92 93 41	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	and keys.mattrude doth not exist.	[21:07]
asciilifeform	http://dpaste.com/2X4QF2C << mine	[21:07]
assbot	dpaste: 2X4QF2C ... ( http://bit.ly/1H2cwGN )	[21:07]
mike_c	those are the same cert, no?	[21:08]
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mircea_popescu	seems we're all seeing the same certs.	[21:09]
mircea_popescu	keyserver.matts and matts show the same ; keys.matts and key.matts do not exist. he moved.	[21:09]
asciilifeform	http://dpaste.com/1X7FSYP << on dulap	[21:11]
assbot	dpaste: 1X7FSYP ... ( http://bit.ly/1H2cP4v )	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123055 << good one lol	[21:12]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 20:49:22; fluffypony: lol	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123058 << actually, romania in this case.	[21:13]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 20:51:28; trinque: is this the only political issue in the region, whether to be eaten by the EU or Russia?	[21:13]
asciilifeform	http://dpaste.com/0M8QV5T.txt << signed manifest (by me)	[21:13]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DT33dx )	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123059 << some, yeah, but i dun has teh time these days ;/	[21:13]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 20:53:54; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce-coruptia-nu-va-putea-fi-niciodata-eliminata/ << any interest in translating this for the non-romanian-speakers like me ?	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	all this derping about "an eight of its gpd" - eh get bent, so that's six week's worth ? get back to work.	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	governments routinely steal 20 years' worth of labour offa people, i don't recall the protests.	[21:16]
BingoBoingo	http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/7.62x39mm/pictures/7.62x39mm-20140531_094618.jpg	[21:16]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DT3mVK )	[21:16]
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asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: lol, chinese rounds ?	[21:18]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Yes	[21:18]
asciilifeform	who the fuck buys this	[21:18]
BingoBoingo	No idea	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	!up qntranet	[21:18]
-assbot-	You voiced qntranet for 30 minutes.	[21:18]
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BingoBoingo	Would buy for the box though	[21:18]
BingoBoingo	Hello visitor	[21:18]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123089 << eh, you're drastically underestimating the actual distaste for russia among european people. even the ukrs.	[21:19]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 21:02:32; ascii_field: when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not.	[21:19]
asciilifeform	under?!	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[21:19]
asciilifeform	considering that i regard ww2 as still on - hard to 'under.'	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	hehe. so yeah, referendum. i dun think it had to be manipulated much.	[21:20]
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mircea_popescu	by which i mean, i dun think it needed much more than tv stations, ipads, the usual stuff.	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	just keeping the ru style away, is enough for referendum win.	[21:21]
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mircea_popescu	!up SquirtPrincess	[21:23]
-assbot-	You voiced SquirtPrincess for 30 minutes.	[21:23]
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SquirtPrincess	thxs <3	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	how goes	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123101 << the russians wanna maintain form, they can also go back to original muscovy duchy or something :D	[21:28]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 21:06:47; trinque: ascii_field: does make all of it sound like russia's trying to maintain form, while nato's trying thwart this as it can	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	original soviet empire was historically the result of the race to asia they had with the uk, and it's certainly not above revisionism.	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	current russia... probably safer. but does not include small russians, caucauss etc.	[21:29]
*	trinque googles it	[21:29]
trinque	seems like this "ethnic russians" thing has been kicking a while	[21:29]
SquirtPrincess	pretty good, u	[21:30]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: nato program is to cut into bantustans infinitely finely if allowed.	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	certainly.	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	you will note there's nothing nato about it. we intend to do the same thing, to all nato, to china, to russia etc.	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	it's just the reasonable agenda.	[21:31]
asciilifeform	naturally.	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	a buncha countries the size of one.	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	and it is, obviously, for their own good and safety.	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	because if they get large... se umfla tarita-n ei, as the romanian expression goes.	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	the oats the[ir heads] contain become inflamed and they start imagining they may do various stupid shit.	[21:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.00021551 = 12.0686 BTC [+]	[21:40]
asciilifeform	hilariously, orlov & mr mold agree on this precise program in this precise formulation.	[21:40]
asciilifeform	(but, naturally, disagree on the recipe)	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	notrly proposing a recipe myself. wisdom of age :D	[21:41]
asciilifeform	i only know recipe 'wait for corpse to float by'	[21:41]
BingoBoingo	http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning! << Make your own lower reciever without crowdfunding , CNC, or 3D printing!!!	[21:42]
assbot	DIY: Shovel AK - photo tsunami warning! ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT5j4u )	[21:42]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: we did this one here	[21:42]
asciilifeform	!s shovel ak	[21:42]
assbot	0 results for 'shovel ak' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shovel+ak	[21:42]
asciilifeform	hm.	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	famously, it's what lu zhi did.	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	except not exactly by the side of the river.	[21:42]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: We talked about the idea, but I dunno if we got to instructions	[21:42]
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asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: there is this very characteristic and endemic derpsyndrome, where folks make the easiest part of a mechanism - whether it is the non-pressurized part of a rifle, or the non-drivery part of an os kernel - and stroke their cocks in self-congratulatory wankbacchanalia	[21:45]
asciilifeform	it needs a name.	[21:45]
asciilifeform	perhaps mircea_popescu can suggest one.	[21:45]
trinque	is that like when gabriel_laddel reads loper-os then screams about lisp at everyone?	[21:45]
asciilifeform	nah that's ordinary drunken bender	[21:46]
trinque	lol	[21:46]
asciilifeform	the shovel handle, kernel, etc. remind of the fable with the drunkard who searched for his lost keys 'where the light is'	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	i thought it was the new jersey approach ?	[21:47]
asciilifeform	new jersey approach is when you do this and then craft the missing but necessary parts out of own shit	[21:47]
asciilifeform	i am referring to the disease where the need for the remaining pieces is not perceived at all - or, if perceived, sufferer is content to crib from somewhere else while pretending he did not include them at all	[21:48]
asciilifeform	(as in the 'rump kernel' example from last night)	[21:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140523 @ 0.0002159 = 30.3389 BTC [+] {2}	[21:48]
BingoBoingo	To be fair to forum muppet he united the shovel handle stock to a lower reciever made from the spade. At least FOR NOW the lower reciever is the purchase restricted part.	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform seems just normal progression.	[21:49]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: iirc in most of the planet it is the barrel.	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	replace shit with farts.	[21:49]
BingoBoingo	Just the Cody Wilson fellow proposes the same thing for the AR-15 yet rewuires CNC	[21:49]
asciilifeform	which is logical - most difficult to machine piece.	[21:49]
BingoBoingo	Yes	[21:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 218877 @ 0.00022389 = 49.0044 BTC [+] {2}	[21:49]
BingoBoingo	But in USia barrel is roughly as easy to purchase from "Rural King" as shovel	[21:50]
asciilifeform	for now.	[21:50]
asciilifeform	scarcity of barrels (or, more likely, shells) is a 'when' not 'if.'	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	incidentally, china during lu zhi is a very interesting case study. anyone recall the episode when the much more powerful mongols sent an emissary with practically that day's equivalent of PUA wisdom,	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	which pissed her off to the degree she ~wanted~ to declare war. except then she realise the mongols are about three times as strong as the chinese, so instead just wrote humble apology about being old and frail and bald,	[21:51]
danielpbarron	"My awesome and super-collectible Romy kit included kick-ass furniture, like this gas tube with "Mihaela" on it and 12 notches. I don't get it, Mihaela is a Romanian female name and the guy only scored 12 of them."	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	and continued to send over women and money to maintain peace	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron ahaha srsly ?	[21:52]
danielpbarron	from bingo's url	[21:52]
BingoBoingo	Yeah	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	(hint, the fmj habit of naming the gun is not invented in us"	[21:52]
*	danielpbarron names his computers after women of the Bible	[21:52]
BingoBoingo	Usually guns like boats get girly names	[21:52]
BingoBoingo	Ex. Titanic named after his ex's dress size	[21:53]
asciilifeform	'this is your rifle; that is your gun; this one's for fighting; that one's - for fun.' (TM) (R)	[21:54]
danielpbarron	there are many like it, but this one is mine	[21:56]
danielpbarron	without me, it is useless; without it, I am useless.	[21:56]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00021372 = 3.9431 BTC [-]	[22:02]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167600 @ 0.00021413 = 35.8882 BTC [+] {2}	[22:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 173986 @ 0.00022426 = 39.0181 BTC [+] {3}	[22:23]
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decimation	asciilifeform: re: valgrind < are you running valgrind on the poor little pogo or on an x86?	[22:26]
asciilifeform	the latter	[22:28]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168173 @ 0.0002261 = 38.0239 BTC [+] {3}	[22:41]
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ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: 3v?	[23:05]
asciilifeform	3-7	[23:05]
asciilifeform	3 is the rated.	[23:05]
asciilifeform	observe polarity	[23:05]
asciilifeform	(there is no protection)	[23:05]
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ben_vulpes	and it's ground signal power when the thing is pointing up and the shield facing the user?	[23:09]
decimation	ben_vulpes: are you soldering the serial lines to the pogo?	[23:10]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: correct	[23:10]
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asciilifeform	decimation: he's playing with a cardano rng	[23:11]
ben_vulpes	decimation: nono, entirely different thinger	[23:11]
decimation	asciilifeform: did you order up a batch from that macrofab place?	[23:14]
asciilifeform	decimation: as described in latest broadcast	[23:14]
asciilifeform	but ben_vulpes has one of the early samples.	[23:14]
decimation	excellent news	[23:14]
asciilifeform	in other news, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26894024/subprocess-check-output-module-object-has-out-attribute-check-output << example of why python needs to die in a fire	[23:16]
assbot	python - subprocess.check_output() module object has out attribute 'check_output' - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1JRqfkM )	[23:16]
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decimation	asciilifeform: because they keep dicking around with the standard library?	[23:18]
decimation	'standard'	[23:18]
asciilifeform	pestilentially.	[23:18]
decimation	yeah, that's really annoying	[23:18]
decimation	I wonder if guido has given up on python 3 yet	[23:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67200 @ 0.00021637 = 14.5401 BTC [-]	[23:28]
decimation	http://sealedabstract.com/rants/python-3-is-fine/ < nope, they are still digging their hole. "However one argument that definitely does not work is “you should work on Python 2 because that would make my life as a commercial software developer easier”. The fact that Python 2 and commercial software developers had a symbiotic relationship at all was a happy coincidence, never a goal. The goal was “produce a language that Guido	[23:31]
decimation	van Rossum and the other volunteer developers enjoy.” "	[23:31]
assbot	Python 3 is fine \| Sealed Abstract ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQ8s7c )	[23:31]
decimation	^ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122624	[23:33]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 16:43:40; mircea_popescu: "o no, that's what i had really meant to do!11"	[23:33]
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ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: ground signal power from left to right, correct?	[23:44]
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asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: aha	[23:45]
asciilifeform	(it didn't change since you last asked!)	[23:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79075 @ 0.00021748 = 17.1972 BTC [+]	[23:45]
ben_vulpes	well hey i could have been asking about from right to left	[23:45]
ben_vulpes	aha my retardation knows no bounds	[23:49]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: what's the entropy analysis tool?	[23:50]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: take your pick	[23:50]
asciilifeform	'ent', 'diehard'	[23:50]
asciilifeform	didja actually process the input ?	[23:50]
ben_vulpes	notyet	[23:50]
ben_vulpes	capture, debias, run through diehard/ent?	[23:51]
asciilifeform	aha	[23:51]
asciilifeform	experiment with things such as varying sample rate, etc.	[23:52]
asciilifeform	shield on/off	[23:52]
asciilifeform	use imagination.	[23:52]
ben_vulpes	ofc ofc	[23:52]
ben_vulpes	i just want to make sure my protocol's sound	[23:52]
ben_vulpes	so there's nothing beyond capture and then debias that needs doing for postprocessing?	[23:53]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: what did you think there was ?	[23:54]
ben_vulpes	i'm just confirming!	[23:54]
asciilifeform	the one other thing one can reasonably do it distill	[23:54]
asciilifeform	which is to say, xor over a buffer	[23:54]
asciilifeform	*is	[23:54]
asciilifeform	(see 'xor lemma' in logs)	[23:54]
decimation	my grandpa taught me 'round, red, right, ridge' - the 'hot' poem	[23:56]

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