Forum logs for 05 Apr 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

Luke-Jr	moiety: gay people are condemned to Hell unless they repent	[00:00]
Duffer1	o.0	[00:00]
Duffer1	ecc 9:5	[00:00]
mike_c	luke must use firefox	[00:00]
moiety	ergo, also being forbidden from marriage, right?	[00:00]
cazalla	neobee is live	[00:00]
locksmith	cazalla it's not, it still says trading is halted on havelock	[00:01]
Luke-Jr	As should be seen from the above, the wafer and the wine is the Catholic Jesus. And this Catholic Jesus (a piece of bread and some wine) is worshipped. This is idolatry. <-- worshipping God Himself is not idolatry.	[00:01]
locksmith	or I'm seeing a cached page	[00:01]
cazalla	locksmith: refresh	[00:01]
Luke-Jr	moiety: even heathen can contract a natural marriage	[00:01]
mike_c	first trades, 1 satoshi!	[00:01]
locksmith	oh shit you're right	[00:01]
pLambert	wow, lots going for 1 satoshi	[00:01]
Namworld	lol, 1 satoshi	[00:01]
nubbins`	he's got ya there, the wafer and wine is supposed to be jesus' flesh and blood in another form	[00:02]
locksmith	NEOBEEQ what the fuck's the Q	[00:02]
nubbins`	transubstantiation, as if you needed another reason to lel	[00:02]
Duffer1	^	[00:02]
nubbins`	locksmith: the Q is whether you'll get any of your money back	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	it's short for Q.Q	[00:02]
rithm	Q is for Quark	[00:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1642 @ 0.00008745 = 0.1436 BTC [+] {6}	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	which is the int'l sign for butttears.	[00:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 291 @ 0.00084015 = 0.2445 BTC [-]	[00:02]
*	moiety isn't sure what she has pressed but now typing with a black box for a cursor	[00:02]
nubbins`	"insert"	[00:02]
Luke-Jr	Scripture nowhere says what the Catholics teach. Nowhere does the Word of God say anything about the bread (or wine) becoming anything. <-- nor is Scripture the authority; however, it DOES document Christ saying that we MUST eat His Flesh to be saved	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	!t h neobeeq	[00:02]
nubbins`	moiety ^	[00:02]
locksmith	who's even buying this shit	[00:02]
moiety	epic thanks nubbins`	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 2.191E-5 / 0.00010000 (14697 shares, 0.32204988 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 2.191E-5 / 0.00010000 (14697 shares, 0.32204988 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.0031977 / 0.00450000 (440226 shares, 1407.70958942 BTC)	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	locksmith your local antitrust authority has been notified about your commercial attack practices.	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	expect to be extradited to romania.	[00:03]
Luke-Jr	moiety: of course, marriage is still always to someone of the opposite sex. so it doesn't necessarily make sense that a gay person would marry.	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3582 @ 0.00006394 = 0.229 BTC [-] {8}	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00579498 = 0.1738 BTC [-]	[00:03]
locksmith	lol what are you talking about mircea?	[00:03]
jurov	Oh yes, Loving God Father, in His infinite wisdom, created humanity and then condemned most of it to eternal suffering.	[00:03]
jurov	Makes perfect sense.	[00:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2585 @ 0.00009999 = 0.2585 BTC [+] {12}	[00:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 159 @ 0.00084015 = 0.1336 BTC [-]	[00:04]
Luke-Jr	Catholicism is further entrenched in idolatry in the veneration of the saints. <-- the saints are not adored; there is no idolatry here either; furthermore, one cannot worship a saint without also worshipping God at the same time, since the saint's virtue all comes from God	[00:04]
Duffer1	i skimmed the logs but have been unable to determine what precipitated this asinine conversation	[00:04]
cazalla	locksmith: you can't talk down neobee you troll	[00:04]
Duffer1	why luke b trollin ?	[00:05]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: can you please cite scripture to back your claims	[00:05]
locksmith	cazalla watch me :)	[00:05]
locksmith	I actually know the people at neo	[00:05]
cazalla	locksmith: better get a lawyer son	[00:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1556 @ 0.00010704 = 0.1666 BTC [+] {16}	[00:05]
Luke-Jr	Prayer is a form of worship. <-- but not all worship is reserved for God. this is where English-age heretics try to abuse the language	[00:05]
locksmith	*poor people	[00:05]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: which ones do you question?	[00:05]
locksmith	unpaid employees	[00:05]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: all of them	[00:05]
Duffer1	saints not adored?! are you smoking crack, there's a thriving market for silver/gold trinkets of the various saints	[00:05]
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cazalla	locksmith: lurk more, it was funny if you understand the context	[00:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 13220 @ 0.00009981 = 1.3195 BTC [-] {13}	[00:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05893354 = 0.1768 BTC [-] {3}	[00:06]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: keep in mind that the Catholic Church produced the Bible. so if you question the Church, there is no basis to accept its product either	[00:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59340035 = 1.7802 BTC [-] {2}	[00:06]
stompysteve	so what does everything thing about neobee right now whats it worth	[00:06]
Duffer1	saying it's not idolatry does not negate the fact that it's idolatry	[00:06]
jurov	i can't adore my cock without also worshipping God at the same time by the same logic	[00:06]
Luke-Jr	Duffer1: it isn't.	[00:06]
Duffer1	you're an idiot	[00:07]
locksmith	cazalla thanks for the heads up	[00:07]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: there are examples in the Bible of God causes evil men to further good works	[00:07]
Namworld	Why are people even buying Neobee that high?	[00:07]
danielpbarron	causing*	[00:07]
Luke-Jr	idolatry: the worship of a picture or object as a god	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	locksmith just mocking teh forum doods.	[00:07]
locksmith	Namworld someone's being funny buying 10000	[00:07]
Luke-Jr	the saints are not worshipped as gods	[00:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3956 @ 0.0000999 = 0.3952 BTC [+] {3}	[00:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7794 @ 0.00096507 = 7.5218 BTC [-]	[00:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00579499 = 0.1449 BTC [+]	[00:07]
mike_c	what a bloodbath..	[00:07]
locksmith	mircea_popescu I got that, just wasn't sure as to if you were referring to particular posts	[00:08]
Namworld	Like 1 satoshi, maybe. I'd buy the whole Neobee just for the lulz.	[00:08]
locksmith	couldn't read all that shit without getting a headache	[00:08]
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mircea_popescu	stompysteve http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/	[00:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3056 @ 0.00012972 = 0.3964 BTC [+] {9}	[00:08]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: can person who is not God forgive sins?	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	locksmith a that i have no idea.	[00:08]
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Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: not of themselves, no	[00:09]
stompysteve	and havelock down	[00:09]
stompysteve	lol	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	til jurov adores his cock.	[00:09]
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danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: then what is the purpose of fasting as a penance?	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	lmao who had money on < 15 minutes ? was it mike_c ?	[00:09]
Namworld	Look, I bought out your whole "good business offer" for less than 1 BTC, fellow forum members.	[00:09]
mike_c	nah, wasn't me	[00:09]
locksmith	anyhooo people, for those thinking of buying, danny is with his trollface selling on the other side of the screen	[00:09]
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mircea_popescu	!last neobee	[00:09]
assbot	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.	[00:09]
Namworld	That's probably more than it's worth, but eh	[00:09]
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moiety	neo died before i even checked? lol	[00:10]
danielpbarron	you forgot the 'Q'	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	i wanted the old price.	[00:10]
Namworld	It proves a point?	[00:10]
JWU42	forgot all about this channel	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	JWU42 heretiq.	[00:10]
moiety	lolol @ assbot	[00:10]
*	JWU42 chuckles	[00:10]
rithm	^5 JWU42	[00:10]
locksmith	JWU42 some never knew of this channel don't want to point to names -----> cryptocyprus	[00:10]
kakobrekla	!l h neobee	[00:10]
assbot	Last trade for NEOBEE on HAVELOCK was at 0.00187956 BTC [-]	[00:10]
kakobrekla	!l h neobeeq	[00:10]
assbot	Last trade for NEOBEEQ on HAVELOCK was at 0.00012972 BTC [+]	[00:11]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: twofold: 1) to make amends to God; 2) to give up legitimate pleasure, as practice for subjecting our bodies to our will so that when we are tempted to do evil, we can resist it better	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	awww, all this fud.	[00:11]
JWU42	I ahve been away from this for so long I missed the whole weex graet.load neo.bee crap	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	NewBie is a great copropany run by a competent cacao	[00:11]
JWU42	loan*	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	or however you spell these things	[00:11]
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mircea_popescu	JWU42 that's about 10mb worth of logs to keep you entertained	[00:11]
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mgio	damn the market cap on havelock is just 265 btc, ima buy up the whole company	[00:12]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: amends 1. reparation or compensation.	[00:12]
jborkl	wasnt neobee .06 or something last week?	[00:12]
JWU42	I am sure there is more than enough to keep me busy	[00:12]
mike_c	;;calc (187956 - 12972) / 187956	[00:12]
gribble	0.930983847283	[00:12]
locksmith	some fud be good fud, i.e., I got fud that buying this shit gonna have a bad time	[00:12]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: a believer owes fasting to God? will they be damned if they don't?	[00:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05500001 = 0.11 BTC [-]	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	this danielpbarron Luke-Jr thing looks like twu wuv.	[00:12]
*	JWU42 barfs	[00:13]
stompysteve	neobee was .006 a month ago or so	[00:13]
locksmith	I got an address with 0.0010btc, gonna buy me some stock	[00:13]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: by sinning, we offend God and ought to make amends; whether one is damned is based solely on his being on good terms with God (ie, not in a state of mortal sin)	[00:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3058 @ 0.000101 = 0.3089 BTC [-] {11}	[00:13]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: the only "amends" is repenting	[00:13]
JWU42	so basically I am in deep sh*t then Luke-Jr ;)	[00:13]
jurov	Luke-Jr: you forget one must be baptized	[00:14]
jborkl	ah i see, so only a 99%, not bad not bad	[00:14]
jborkl	loss	[00:14]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: repenting is a prerequisite to making amends, it isn't amends in itself	[00:14]
jurov	unbatized souls go straight to dumper	[00:14]
Luke-Jr	jurov: no, that's included	[00:14]
JWU42	I did get baptized - so i have that going for me	[00:14]
Luke-Jr	jurov: we are born enemies of God, in a state of mortal sin	[00:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 342 @ 0.00084015 = 0.2873 BTC [-]	[00:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3550 @ 0.00010667 = 0.3787 BTC [+] {5}	[00:14]
mike_c	that's not entirely true jurov. unbaptized babies dont go to hell	[00:14]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: yes they do	[00:14]
mike_c	no, they don't. god told me	[00:15]
kakobrekla	!b 2	[00:15]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1770948/plain/)	[00:15]
JWU42	and there goes the looney alarm	[00:15]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: your "god" is a demon then	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	owned kakobrekla :D	[00:15]
Duffer1	i know right kako lol	[00:15]
kakobrekla	bleh	[00:15]
jurov	mike_c: you were probably bapized as adult. they are allowed to tell adults lies such as this to get them into the church	[00:15]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: is the amends required?	[00:15]
mike_c	http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/2007-04-20-popelimbo_N.htm	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	do demons have buttsex with dead babies then ?	[00:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1224 @ 0.00010941 = 0.1339 BTC [+] {8}	[00:15]
jurov	but me and luke_jr had proper catholic upbringing	[00:15]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: if you don't make amends, it's questionable whether you were serious about repentence, at least.	[00:16]
mike_c	i have 10 years of catholic school. bring it.	[00:16]
jborkl	yeah, http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/2007-04-20-popelimbo_N.htm	[00:16]
jborkl	They are thinking about it	[00:16]
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JWU42	It's a cult I tell you	[00:16]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c nowai ?!	[00:16]
mike_c	yeswai	[00:16]
Luke-Jr	jurov: Catholics are not allowed to lie for any reason.	[00:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 6199 @ 0.00011 = 0.6819 BTC [+] {6}	[00:16]
mod6	not even about bfl?	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	lmao this neobbq shit is so lulzy	[00:17]
JWU42	!b3	[00:17]
jurov	mike_c: so what the babies do with the mortal sin? do tell	[00:17]
JWU42	grrr	[00:17]
JWU42	that was too good	[00:17]
jurov	Luke-Jr: they are, if they are convinced it's truth	[00:17]
mike_c	"Baptism does not exist to wipe away the "stain" of original sin, but to initiate one into the Church,"	[00:17]
JWU42	mod6: you get a gold star for that	[00:17]
Luke-Jr	jurov: it's not a lie, if you believe it yourself.	[00:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2856 @ 0.00011287 = 0.3224 BTC [+] {12}	[00:17]
jurov	^ in other words.	[00:17]
Luke-Jr	jurov: furthermore, someone who believes that unbaptised babies don't go to Hell, is not a Catholic	[00:17]
mike_c	hah, incorrect	[00:18]
mike_c	i don't believe it, i was baptized, i am a catholic	[00:18]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: saying so doesn't make it true	[00:18]
mike_c	as a matter of fact i don't believe any of this crap and am still a catholic	[00:18]
mike_c	the church says it	[00:18]
kakobrekla	at this rate we will do luke-jr.bash.bitcoin-assets.com	[00:18]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: to be Catholic, you need to believe everything the Church teaches, by definition	[00:18]
Luke-Jr	if you deny any doctrine, you are by definition NOT Catholic	[00:18]
mike_c	no, you don't. where do you get this crap?	[00:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2247 @ 0.00011381 = 0.2557 BTC [+] {7}	[00:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00096507 = 13.2215 BTC [-]	[00:18]
mike_c	incorrect. i was baptized, confirmed.	[00:18]
mike_c	i'm catholic, like it or not.	[00:18]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: that means you are accountable for being Catholic	[00:19]
Luke-Jr	and will be judged as one who should know better	[00:19]
jurov	mike_c they have lied to you in the school	[00:19]
JWU42	Is Luke-Jr really autistic?	[00:19]
Duffer1	so... pedastry is a catholic doctrine else those priests would have been excomunicated	[00:19]
Duffer1	got it	[00:19]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: but if you deny doctrine, you are a damned heretic until you repent	[00:19]
jborkl	did any priests touch you as a little boy? is'nt that requirment of being Catholic	[00:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 8584 @ 0.00010414 = 0.8939 BTC [-] {12}	[00:19]
Luke-Jr	jborkl: troll	[00:19]
locksmith	I was baptized orthodox, anyone else here ortho?? join the cool club we're the men in black	[00:19]
mike_c	i am a damned heretic catholic. i have not been ex-communicated.	[00:19]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: what is "doctrine?"	[00:20]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: heretics leave the Church of their own free will	[00:20]
jurov	danielpbarron: the catechism	[00:20]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: there is no need for excommunication	[00:20]
jborkl	That is a legit question, we do not have many Catholis here	[00:20]
mike_c	i'm not leaving! you can't make me either. sorry, you're stuck with me.	[00:20]
danielpbarron	jurov: so, not the Bible?	[00:20]
jborkl	c	[00:20]
JWU42	and now I understand why I am not in here	[00:20]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: any teaching of the Church (on matters of faith or moralS)	[00:20]
JWU42	that was enough for another 6 momnths	[00:20]
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kakobrekla	it wasnt like that before you came in	[00:20]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: the act of denying doctrine, is in itself, one by which you have left	[00:20]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: what is "the Church"	[00:20]
kakobrekla	:D	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	Is Luke-Jr really autistic? << no, he's just right.	[00:21]
jurov	danielpbarron: not. there is "biblical thelogy" and there is "Tradition of Catholic Church"	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	there's a difference.	[00:21]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: it's like the act of killing yourself, you cease to be alive	[00:21]
jurov	they'e distinc things	[00:21]
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danielpbarron	jurov: does the tradition change over time?	[00:21]
mike_c	i was even an altar boy. i'm more catholic than you are.	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	wait, you were an ALTAR BOY ?	[00:21]
mike_c	great tips.	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	holy shit these exist.	[00:21]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: no, nor is there a real distinction	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	i thought it's just an urban legend.	[00:21]
jurov	danielpbarron: ofc it does. but it's still infallible in every moment	[00:21]
mike_c	made a killing for funerals.	[00:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.056 = 0.112 BTC [+]	[00:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1367 @ 0.00010245 = 0.14 BTC [-] {7}	[00:21]
Luke-Jr	Catholicism (Scripture + Tradition) does not change, ever.	[00:22]
danielpbarron	jurov: can you demonstrate any miracles to prove that the alteration in tradition is legitimately from God?	[00:22]
locksmith	hmm so have the people trading read any news lately?	[00:22]
jborkl	They have a Latin Pope now, what about that ???	[00:22]
jurov	danielpbarron requesting miracles shows tongue of the Evil	[00:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1323 @ 0.00010134 = 0.1341 BTC [-] {13}	[00:22]
mike_c	we're capitalizing Evil now too? :D	[00:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58234142 = 1.1647 BTC [-] {2}	[00:23]
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jurov	that was merely for you to imagine dramatic whisper	[00:24]
danielpbarron	jurov: according to whom?	[00:24]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: anyhow, to finish off with this page: Catholicism does condemn homosexuals and muslims; even the Apotles baptised infants, as is necessary for their salvation; Christ's grace is sufficient to completely cleanse us of sin, but only if we make good use of it - otherwise we will need purgatory to deal with what we have been unwilling to change about our evilness	[00:24]
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jurov	danielpbarron: Matthew 4,1-11	[00:25]
Luke-Jr	jurov: danielpbarron is absolutely right to demand miracles to testify to shepherds who cannot trace their authority to the Apostles	[00:25]
Luke-Jr	although even with miracles, one cannot justify changing doctrine	[00:25]
danielpbarron	Luke-Jr: is it a fair assessment to state that Catholicism as you describe it is not in accordance with the Bible? -- or, Catholicism is not a religion based on the Bible but instead on "the Church" which in this context refers specifically to an organization in Europe?	[00:26]
Luke-Jr	danielpbarron: Catholicism is based on Christ's teachings, not the Bible. the Church is also not "in Europe", but universal.	[00:26]
Luke-Jr	the Bible is one of many written promulgations of the Church, in its course of doing its duty to teach the world	[00:27]
Mats_cd03	oh look its religion hour	[00:27]
Mats_cd03	how dull	[00:27]
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jurov	lol "bible is promulgation of church" this is new for me	[00:27]
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Mats_cd03	this is true	[00:28]
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mike_c	the true word of God was handed down to Joseph Smith on some golden tupperware in 1822	[00:28]
Mats_cd03	was there anything in it	[00:28]
Luke-Jr	mike_c: that was a demon	[00:29]
jurov	wasn't that xenu?	[00:29]
mike_c	do not question the tupperware	[00:29]
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Mats_cd03	chili mac and some religious documents	[00:29]
Luke-Jr	Mats_cd03: mike_c is referring to Mormonism	[00:29]
Luke-Jr	(or Moronism, if you prefer)	[00:29]
Mats_cd03	yes im making a joke	[00:29]
mike_c	for which you will go to hell	[00:29]
danielpbarron!@	added to ignore list.	[00:29]
Luke-Jr!@	added to ignore list.	[00:29]
stompysteve	god isnt real	[00:29]
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mircea_popescu	well that was fun but time for the ignores.	[00:29]
BingoBoingo	The last words of Jesus were "Fuck you" before he stumbled in front of a Tractor Trailer on I-70 outside Fairmont City	[00:29]
jurov	I, as the arm of Holy Church, hereby promulgate holy writings of L.Ron Hubbard as True Word of God	[00:30]
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jurov	while my orger arm being busy with worship	[00:31]
jurov	*other	[00:31]
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ThickAsThieves	lmao this neobbq shit is so lulzy /// so fuckin surreal	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	i was expecting moar trades.	[00:32]
ThickAsThieves	i cant even forumlate a thought	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	that was it ? done ?	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	!t h neobeeq	[00:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 7.937E-5 / 0.00020000 (93554 shares, 7.42521178 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 7.937E-5 / 0.00020000 (93554 shares, 7.42521178 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00266159 / 0.00450000 (494965 shares, 1317.39453993 BTC)	[00:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 22882 @ 0.00005223 = 1.1951 BTC [-] {8}	[00:33]
Duffer1	o.0	[00:33]
mircea_popescu	7.937E-5 lol that sounds right	[00:33]
locksmith	mircea_popescu so are they trading for the lulz? cos I don't see any other reason	[00:33]
mircea_popescu	locksmith prolly.	[00:33]
ThickAsThieves	"Its too cheap for me not to buy, hell i dont even care if i lose!"	[00:34]
mircea_popescu	maybe a few people are trading to acquire a standing to sue.	[00:34]
mike_c	buy side is picking up cheap lotto tickets. sell side doesn't want to have to see those shares on their balance sheet anymore.	[00:34]
mircea_popescu	sounds about right.	[00:34]
BingoBoingo	So... What does NeoBBQ mean for the NeoBee BitBet	[00:34]
jurov	BingoBoingo: it's no longer neobee	[00:35]
jurov	just an undead something	[00:35]
BingoBoingo	jurov: Seems to make sense	[00:35]
ThickAsThieves	reverse gemming?	[00:35]
ThickAsThieves	gnimmeg	[00:36]
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stompysteve	well site down and last price was like .00000000 so i guess GG	[00:37]
stompysteve	for now	[00:37]
kakobrekla	price got so low it was hard to reach the 0.1 btc sum trading vol per minute to post out trades here so we missed the 'action'	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	course the other explanation is, officers buying to reduce their legal exposure.	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	this is fraudulent in and of itself, but clueless noobs a la danny prolly dunno about it.	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	so if he left with as much as 50 btc, spending that to buy shares for 1% of par may seem to him a good use of funds	[00:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2117 @ 0.00005014 = 0.1061 BTC [-] {8}	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	obviously if the asset was delisted at the company's request	[00:40]
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mircea_popescu	it'd stabd to reason it was also relisted in the same manner.	[00:40]
mike_c	havelock said they relisted it because they haven't heard anything from neobee.	[00:41]
mike_c	which seemed like an odd reason.	[00:41]
locksmith	imo havelock's full of shit	[00:41]
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stompysteve	its also odd they didnt give like 24 hour notice or anything	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	a knot of innovative business practices.	[00:44]
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jborkl	NEOBEEQ ฿0.0001 Market cap ฿132	[00:47]
jborkl	heh	[00:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00096639 = 15.5589 BTC [+]	[00:47]
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[KS]	mircea_popescu: now I'm officially calling scammers on Havelock.	[00:47]
[KS]	hi	[00:47]
BingoBoingo	Havelock buying all of the shares to get legal standing to sue?	[00:48]
locksmith	fud	[00:49]
[KS]	WTF does Havelock to do with buyg NB shares?	[00:49]
jborkl	https://docs.google.com/document/d/1khGADbJeu0efCNZ13lnz8BucG7PfS5Cl9lBZ1sncY-4/edit	[00:49]
ozbot	Prospectus - V2.0 - Main Body - Google Drive	[00:49]
jborkl	March 17th 2014	[00:49]
mircea_popescu	ello.	[00:50]
[KS]	seriously, WTF is wrong with these ppl. his is grounds for suiing them.	[00:50]
[KS]	On March 28, 2014 Havelock Investments halted trading of the NEOBEE Fund; Havelock Investments has yet to receive any formal information in regards to the questionable trading activity on the LMB share platform website. We have not received any formal information on the current situation at LMB Holdings. Due to those factors we have decided that the unit holders on the NEOBEE Fund should no longer be suspended from trading their units.	[00:50]
[KS]	The Fund will now be designated as NEOBEEQ to reflect the uncertainty of the future of LMB Holdings â€“ NEO BEE Ltd. Financial information on the status of the company has not been released. The units of this Fund will continue to trade even if the company will file for bankruptcy. We will continue to update you if any information is provided to us.	[00:50]
[KS]	Trading will resume today at 5:00 PM EST	[00:50]
[KS]	Thank you for investing with Havelock Investments!	[00:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.05999984 = 1.08 BTC [+]	[00:51]
[KS]	So, you don't have news and thus promptly unilateraly decide to re-list an asset? really?	[00:51]
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jurov	paranormal activity, i say.	[00:52]
jurov	i thought it was aliens, but it's actually zombies	[00:53]
locksmith	I'm telling you panama's smoking bad grass	[00:53]
BingoBoingo	NeoBeeQ seems to be some sort of derivative of the now non-existent NeoBee of a like not seen since pirate debt was securitized	[00:54]
locksmith	they're saying it's neobeeQuestionable, thus the Q	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	this is what you get when you let forum "professionals" do things.	[00:54]
mike_c	goxbux got traded for a little while.	[00:55]
[KS]	NEOBEEQ doesn't exist. If you had NEOBEE shares, Haelock has stolen them from you and turned them into HavelockCOins, a Goxcoin derivative.	[00:55]
jborkl	Who was it in bitcoin GLBSE that came up with a. holds b. and b holbs c. and c. holds a. and b. so there is no risk	[00:55]
BingoBoingo	jborkl: Usagi?	[00:56]
jborkl	ah yes, thank you	[00:56]
jborkl	should have been obvious	[00:57]
[KS]	A cousin of DAnk?	[00:57]
BingoBoingo	No, Dank just took Bitcoins in exchange for word salad	[00:58]
locksmith	I need to know what these people are buying if not thin air. neobee/danny do not have any BTC left	[00:58]
Shakespeare	http://oig.state.gov/documents/organization/224580.pdf	[00:58]
Shakespeare	"In sum, over the past 6 years, our audit work has uncovered significant contract file	[00:59]
Shakespeare	management deficiencies in Department contracts/task orders with a total value of more	[00:59]
Shakespeare	than $6 billion. "	[00:59]
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cazalla	locksmith: likely these types of people think it's a good time to do some dollar cost averaging http://www.reddit.com/r/neobee/comments/227tng/why_im_holding_onto_neobee/	[00:59]
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mircea_popescu	jborkl usagi.	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	word salad roflmao.	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	aptly put.	[00:59]
[KS]	BingoBoingo: looks the same to me.	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha cazalla drop them a link to teh http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/	[01:00]
locksmith	lol	[01:00]
cazalla	can't, deleted my reddit account	[01:01]
mike_c	kakobrekla: -trades is unfiltered, right? small trades get through?	[01:01]
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mrstickball	so how do you guys see the future of coin-based assets?	[01:01]
mrstickball	I am trying to make sense of it all, given so many bad actors and skeevy exchanges	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	mrstickball pls to read logs ty.	[01:02]
Shakespeare	the Bitcoin Fundnation says "we’ve been lazy and undisciplined about getting updates written in the face of so much possible content. Jon Matonis is tackling this"	[01:02]
Shakespeare	'’ve put forward a challenge to the team: “Say a lot more.”'	[01:03]
Shakespeare	lol	[01:03]
Shakespeare	more words!	[01:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1700 @ 0.0000992 = 0.1686 BTC [+] {11}	[01:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0614 = 0.1842 BTC [+]	[01:03]
mrstickball	mircea_popescu: which logs, exactly	[01:03]
Shakespeare	"They’ve risen to the challenge, and have as a first response opened up read access to our member forums to the public. "	[01:03]
Shakespeare	share the words!	[01:03]
locksmith	it's ok just dropped the link on reddit myself	[01:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0619 = 0.1238 BTC [+]	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	;;topic	[01:04]
gribble	http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[01:04]
Shakespeare	"Finally, I’ve asked Jon Matonis to update you on the details of operations and finances of the Foundation. Expect that soon."	[01:05]
Shakespeare	Soon tm	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	Shakespeare didn't they kick matonis out at some point because he wanted to be on the press contacts list or something ?	[01:05]
Shakespeare	the rumors of his death were exaggerated	[01:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 11058 @ 0.00008781 = 0.971 BTC [-] {12}	[01:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.061999 = 0.124 BTC [+] {2}	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[01:05]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61698999 BTC [+]	[01:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 17171 @ 0.00009997 = 1.7166 BTC [+] {7}	[01:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0381 = 0.2286 BTC [+]	[01:07]
kakobrekla	mike_c yes	[01:09]
Shakespeare	"The company recently put up a page for "Amazon Dash," a shopping accessory"	[01:09]
mike_c	thx	[01:09]
Shakespeare	it's a barcode scanner and mic	[01:09]
Shakespeare	buy things so you can buy things!	[01:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0381 = 0.2667 BTC [+]	[01:10]
Shakespeare	http://pando.com/2014/04/04/revealed-rahm-emanuel-cuts-public-pensions-diverts-money-to-benefit-campaign-donors/	[01:10]
ozbot	Revealed: Rahm Emanuel cuts public pensions, diverts money to benefit campaign donors \| PandoDaily	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	"I believe the community demand is great enough to carry this idea onward, and I look forward to their success."	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	bwahahahaha	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	who sold all these idiots on "community" ?	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	masterful job.	[01:11]
stompysteve	whats the number in the {} mean	[01:12]
stompysteve	thanks	[01:12]
mircea_popescu	how many trades were collated into the line	[01:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 900 @ 0.00011898 = 0.1071 BTC [+] {3}	[01:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05999985 = 0.24 BTC [+]	[01:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 20 @ 0.01500003 = 0.3 BTC [-] {4}	[01:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1900 @ 0.00014879 = 0.2827 BTC [+] {3}	[01:20]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2100 @ 0.00013 = 0.273 BTC [-] {3}	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	http://iang.org/papers/triple_entry.html	[01:22]
ozbot	Triple Entry Accounting	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	this is really an excellent write-up.	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	should be in the wiki imo, either as-is or mildly rewritten	[01:22]
asciilifeform	http://www.mainlesson.com/display.php?author=lang&book=red&story=voice	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	prolly as-is with credit	[01:22]
ozbot	The Baldwin Project: The Red Fairy Book by Andrew Lang	[01:22]
asciilifeform	relevant to... things.	[01:22]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1009 @ 0.00014869 = 0.15 BTC [-] {4}	[01:23]
Duffer1	luke-jr still around?	[01:23]
stompysteve	lol whoever got those 10k shares at .000000000000001 is gonna have some fun with neobee over the next lil while	[01:25]
jadne	heh	[01:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2600 @ 0.00014878 = 0.3868 BTC [-] {3}	[01:26]
Shakespeare	it is added mp http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/finance	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	cool!	[01:27]
tg2	http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=262175399&m=262186039	[01:30]
ozbot	NPR Media Player	[01:30]
tg2	lol	[01:30]
tg2	teen birth rates drop 5.9% because of "16 and pregnant" lol	[01:31]
midnightmagic	education strikes again	[01:33]
tg2	fear education	[01:34]
midnightmagic	realism education	[01:34]
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jurov	wow that triple entry... looks like something i wrestled with and reimplemented badly	[01:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00013 = 0.13 BTC [-]	[01:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 980 @ 0.00012499 = 0.1225 BTC [-] {5}	[01:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4817 @ 0.00096678 = 4.657 BTC [+] {2}	[01:39]
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mircea_popescu	jurov >D	[01:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00096802 = 18.9248 BTC [+] {2}	[01:43]
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cmyers	wow, epic scrollback history. It's like watching a star wars versus star trek argument.	[01:43]
cmyers	"Everyone knows the death star would totally destroy the enterprise because the technical manual says so!"	[01:44]
cmyers	"Clearly my intepretation is right!"	[01:44]
truffles	lol nerds	[01:44]
cmyers	"But george lucas PRODUCED the technical manual, he is biased, lolz"	[01:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 14 @ 0.01999992 = 0.28 BTC [+] {3}	[01:49]
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jurov	catholic nerdery? onoes	[01:50]
jurov	makes me explicit :(	[01:50]
truffles	jurov atheist?	[01:51]
jurov	no, catholic raised fag	[01:51]
truffles	umk	[01:51]
truffles	u couldve changed since?	[01:51]
jurov	you can't really change. it sticks with you	[01:52]
Mats_cd03	do you feel robbed	[01:52]
jurov	they are really deeply ingrained. both catholicism and homosexuality	[01:52]
truffles	heh	[01:52]
jurov	Mats_cd03: i don	[01:53]
jurov	't have basis for comparison	[01:53]
bounce	http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/03/hey-parents-leave-those-kids-alone/358631/	[01:54]
ozbot	The Overprotected Kid - The Atlantic	[01:54]
jurov	maybe other people are robbed because then they can't understand zealotry, who knows	[01:54]
truffles	were u touched ?	[01:54]
jurov	no, why?	[01:55]
truffles	seems a thing they do..	[01:55]
jurov	everyone does	[01:55]
jurov	all the time	[01:55]
truffles	well i agree its tough to shake off the religious stuff	[01:56]
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truffles	i find some value in some of it though	[01:56]
Mats_cd03	i feel robbed	[01:56]
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Mats_cd03	indoctrinated with garbage	[01:57]
truffles	it could be worse	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	so i'm the largest crafter in rift by such a wide margin that the next two people are smaller than me combined :D	[01:58]
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mircea_popescu	i'd guess there's between 10 and 20ish people working 40 hour weeks at feeding my vast industrial complex with raw materials.	[01:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0381 = 0.381 BTC [+]	[01:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05999996 = 0.48 BTC [+] {2}	[01:59]
truffles	good for u	[02:01]
khersonus	can you make money off of that somehow?	[02:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010002 BTC [-]	[02:01]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010001 BTC [-]	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	khersonus i guess you could.	[02:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4800 @ 0.00010809 = 0.5188 BTC [-] {7}	[02:03]
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khersonus	so, btc is not the only "game currency" you have found success in	[02:07]
khersonus	I'm still not sure that argument would hold up in court...	[02:07]
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mircea_popescu	hehe, no.	[02:09]
cazalla	surely there are only 5 people left playing rift? :P	[02:10]
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mircea_popescu	there's ~1k just in the bitcoin guild.	[02:11]
mircea_popescu	this is the smaller shard. there's 2 larger ones, plus a few smaller ones	[02:11]
mircea_popescu	(the marketplace is shared tho)	[02:11]
cazalla	i bought it when it came out, didn't really give it longer than a week though	[02:11]
cazalla	same deal with swtor, interesting how they both went f2p	[02:12]
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mircea_popescu	i actually paid them for 6 months.	[02:13]
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cazalla	hopefully EQN is a great game, have not sunk much time into mmorpgs since wow/eq days	[02:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1254 @ 0.00009699 = 0.1216 BTC [-] {3}	[02:16]
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mircea_popescu	i didn't like either.	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	was in closed beta of both, didn't play past it	[02:20]
cazalla	what didn't you like about EQ?	[02:20]
cazalla	mcquad is making yet another mmorpg, funded this time by kickstarter, i'm sure it will end just like vanguard though	[02:22]
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cazalla	mcquaid even	[02:22]
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mircea_popescu	i dont even remember.	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	dumbass crafting for sure.	[02:26]
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matt_boyd123	Still haven't got round to playing Rift :(	[02:28]
matt_boyd123	Was playing LoL for way too long.	[02:28]
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cazalla	what do you play matt?	[02:30]
matthew_boyd	Like in general or?	[02:30]
cazalla	in LoL	[02:30]
matthew_boyd	Oh, I play Riven :)	[02:30]
matthew_boyd	I love that champion.	[02:31]
cazalla	i like leona for sup	[02:31]
matthew_boyd	Yea, for sure.	[02:31]
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matthew_boyd	http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/51811207#matches -- my match history. I had to quit, but before I did, I had an 18 win streak.	[02:31]
ozbot	MidRivenEUW - Europe West - Summoners - League of Legends	[02:32]
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cazalla	http://www.lolking.net/summoner/oce/302360 but i have not played in a while	[02:34]
matthew_boyd	Nice man!	[02:35]
matthew_boyd	I haven't been in this chat for like, a year?	[02:35]
matthew_boyd	Fuck, haha.	[02:35]
cazalla	lol not really, i was a shitkunt but i don't have the time to dedicate to it	[02:36]
matthew_boyd	Haha, oh well, it's only a game, then again. :)	[02:36]
cazalla	to be 16 again and have 24/7	[02:36]
matthew_boyd	Haha, I am 16, however, I do not have that sort of time. :P	[02:37]
matthew_boyd	I have about 1 hour to myself a day.	[02:37]
cazalla	sounds like you make better use of it	[02:37]
matthew_boyd	Haha.	[02:38]
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matthew_boyd	Anyway, it's late here, and I have to revise tomorrow.	[02:40]
matthew_boyd	Talk to you later, cazalla. :)	[02:40]
cazalla	ttyl	[02:40]
matthew_boyd	o/	[02:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 10589 @ 0.00009999 = 1.0588 BTC [+] {2}	[02:45]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.0009659 = 14.9232 BTC [-]	[02:47]
Duffer1	Luke-Jr I called you an idiot earlier, I'm sorry	[02:50]
Duffer1	just wanted to apologize	[02:50]
Duffer1	lol i am not at all interested in restarting that conversation	[02:52]
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mike_c	February was JD's lowest ever monthly wagered volume. Until March when it dropped another 40%.	[02:58]
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mike_c	new chart: http://www.btcalpha.com/income/#justdice	[03:00]
mike_c	and for those sans javascript: http://i.imgur.com/6zFGjFP.png	[03:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29650 @ 0.0009659 = 28.6389 BTC [-]	[03:01]
kakobrekla	nice work mike_c	[03:02]
mike_c	thx. hopefully not a good btc investment headed for the crapper.	[03:03]
mike_c	maybe people are bored of rolling dice.	[03:03]
kakobrekla	or just lost it all already	[03:03]
cazalla	i thought dooglus would've run with the coins by now	[03:04]
mike_c	dooglus seems like a very standup guy.	[03:04]
cazalla	yeah he does	[03:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0599 = 0.1797 BTC [-]	[03:05]
bounce	``Two other exchanges hit by the same problem, Bitstamp Ltd. of Slovenia and BTC-e of Bulgaria, resumed normal trading after working out a fix with software coders coordinated by the Bitcoin Foundation.'' (wsj) -- I don't recall the bitcoin foundation having much to do with it. case of inserting yourself for marketeering purposes?	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	mike_c interesting stuff	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	!jd	[03:12]
assbot	Just-Dice stat: 15388 BTC profit, 32.0k BTC invested, 976.46 mio bets, 5.13 mio BTC wagered	[03:12]
mike_c	not sure what to make of it.	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	sdice showed the exact same hump pattern over its lifetime	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	novelty effect maybe ?	[03:13]
mike_c	yeah, could be. it's just not interesting enough to hold people's attention. customer churn is higher than new customer acquisition.	[03:13]
cazalla	how does doge-dice compare?	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	bounce pretty much	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	"let's pretend like we matter by pretending like we matter."	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	mike_c what boggles my mind is... 5mn wagered should show 50k profit.	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	it's been stuck around 12-15kish forever neh ?	[03:15]
mike_c	it is heavily skewed by nakowa, the huge lucky bettor.	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	but that was long ago ?	[03:15]
mike_c	yeah. but since then it has largely tracked expected returns	[03:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00096577 = 24.2891 BTC [-] {2}	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	o it has ?	[03:15]
bounce	too bad journos are suckers for that sort of crap. and apparently there's good dues revenue in it too. nice racket.	[03:16]
mike_c	last three months, 425k wagered.	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	bounce revenue what ?	[03:16]
mike_c	so expected would only be 4k profit	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	and actual profit ?	[03:16]
*	bounce briefly wonders if there'd be legitimate purposes for a "bitcoin foundation", and what sort of people you'd want in there, then.	[03:17]
mike_c	~ 4.5k	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	ah then that's cool.	[03:17]
bounce	``The Bitcoin Foundation is basically the official establishment of a loose collection of technology geeks, businessmen, and big-government skeptics from around the world. The 18-month-old group has thousands of members, plus roughly $3 million in dues and donations contributed in bitcoins.''	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	derp.	[03:18]
bounce	treacherous use of "official" there	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	they got some donations originally, when btc was cheap.	[03:18]
bounce	what's the speshul extra spendy memberships cost again?	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	bounce well, shot the only guy on the authors list with any sm exposure a tweet.	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	bounce basically ver donated i dun recall, 3k btc was it ? back when btc was 50ish	[03:20]
bounce	oh dear. a tweet!	[03:20]
bounce	;;calc 3000 * [tlast]	[03:20]
gribble	1350000	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	a few forum muppets split a coupla hundred btc between a thousand or so heads	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	and the rest is open to debate.	[03:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.01200125 = 0.3 BTC [-]	[03:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3000 @ 0.00012599 = 0.378 BTC [+] {2}	[03:22]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0598 = 0.6578 BTC [-]	[03:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1369 @ 0.000127 = 0.1739 BTC [+] {2}	[03:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03809999 = 0.381 BTC [-]	[03:34]
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bounce	looking at their membership page and the dues listed --in usd but payable in "bitcoin index", taking usd for reference here, and taking the yearlies for just one year-- I'm calculating a band of 405925 to 440225 USD-worth lower bound actually paid	[03:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 939 @ 0.00013398 = 0.1258 BTC [+] {2}	[03:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00096552 = 16.8966 BTC [-] {2}	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	this is actually remarkably accurate afaik.	[03:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00096874 = 8.5733 BTC [+] {2}	[03:50]
bounce	eh, I made a boo-boo in the upper band. missing some 400k-odd, so 400k-800k. lemme check the numbers again.	[03:51]
mike_c	looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.	[03:51]
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benkay	half your money!	[03:51]
benkay	hey mircea_popescu thanks for the front page tweet	[03:51]
mircea_popescu	yw	[03:52]
benkay	had to wait for some other twuser to let me know	[03:52]
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mircea_popescu	you have a tweetar ?	[03:52]
benkay	odd thing is that other people are now letting me hear about where else my blatherings are popping up o.O	[03:52]
benkay	ffs are you kidding me?	[03:52]
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mircea_popescu	lol no	[03:53]
kakobrekla	yeah surfer dude is invested innit	[03:53]
kakobrekla	>The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE's assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been "under-banked."	[03:53]
benkay	140 characters signifying nothing	[03:53]
kakobrekla	a whole 18 shares of loss.	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla ahahaha who runs this ?	[03:53]
benkay	surfcapital management?	[03:53]
kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95441.msg5682356;topicseen#msg5682356	[03:53]
ozbot	[Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	pretty fucking epic lol.	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	"i love the tangibility of neobee's assets". "oops... they had no assets"	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	"Peer-to-peer lending is risky. We can mitigate fraud losses by our due diligence. BTCJam provides great analytics on borrower creditworthiness. "	[03:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.10144642 = 1.5217 BTC [-]	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	fucktards are fucktared, news at eight.	[03:54]
kakobrekla	hehe	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	our due dilligence, loving the tangibility of newbie assets.	[03:54]
cads	in my famous and well loved series of clueless questions, what are some books that you guys think any entrepreneur should read after his fifth failure, right before making it big!	[03:54]
BingoBoingo	[KS]: Understanding the difference between usagi and dank is critical for classing other scams	[03:54]
asciilifeform	can't wait until somebody thinks of offering fucktard loans with... btc private keys as collateral.	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	im blogging this.	[03:55]
cads	sorry I made that question _extra_ clueless, for humor.	[03:55]
benkay	ANATHEMA	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	cads i think you should detail your previous five failures on a blog.	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	then we can halp you.	[03:55]
KRS-One	HALP HALP!	[03:55]
benkay	NO HALP ME	[03:56]
cads	mircea_popescu: haha, that would be a lovely blog	[03:56]
benkay	this channel really burnt a solid day talking about sky faeries?	[03:56]
cads	I'm glad I missed that.	[03:56]
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benkay	sorta thing drives me to productivity	[03:57]
benkay	and drink.	[03:57]
benkay	but mostly productivity.	[03:57]
BingoBoingo	cads: Prolly read some Thales	[03:57]
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cads	The philosopher?	[03:58]
BingoBoingo	cads: He made good business	[03:59]
cads	As a fifth tier entrepreneur, I have decided to rewire my mushy brain with the classic modes of thought!	[03:59]
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cads	BingoBoingo: seems like this guy is good to read as part of one's culture studies	[03:59]
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BingoBoingo	cads: How he made his fortune is worth looking into	[04:00]
bloctoc	how does one pronounce Mircea Popescu?	[04:00]
cads	The first known individual to which a mathematical discovery is attributed.	[04:01]
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cads	bloctoc: MrrrrrRrrrRR-CEA PPppPppscu	[04:01]
cads	while grovveling	[04:01]
cads	and crying	[04:01]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2014#487676	[04:02]
ozbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	bloctoc ^	[04:02]
bloctoc	thanks! now I can phone in my reports to the viceroy	[04:03]
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cads	huh, I need to look into algorithmically summarizing the log file	[04:10]
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cads	I think I'm naturally half dyslexic and half autistic because I can't read fast, especially when you throw social contexts into the mix and especially when there are multiple speakers	[04:12]
cads	sometimes I can barely keep up in real time with a medium load, 5 speaker IRC conversation	[04:12]
cads	sometimes I use text to speech to help reduce to brain load	[04:13]
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thestringpuller	i should play sad music	[04:14]
thestringpuller	!ticker m s.mpoe	[04:14]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00095605 / 0.00096103 / 0.00096895 (962115 shares, 924.62 BTC), 7D: 0.00093355 / 0.00094921 / 0.00096895 (6220253 shares, 5,904.36 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00088782 / 0.00096895 (28968485 shares, 25,718.87 BTC)	[04:14]
cads	anyways, more recently I've heard about this 18 year old kid that sold his text summarization company Summly to Yahoo for 30 million bucks	[04:14]
jborkl	http://www.gamespot.com/articles/5-year-old-cracks-xbox-one-security-by-discovering-simple-flaw/1100-6418774/	[04:14]
ozbot	5-year-old cracks Xbox One security by discovering simple flaw - GameSpot	[04:14]
thestringpuller	you seem to type just fine cads	[04:14]
cads	typing works well	[04:14]
cads	about 60-70 wpm, I'm happy with that	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	cads if text to speec hreduces your brain load you need to go back to school.	[04:15]
cazalla	i believe the summly kid is from australia	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	learn to read yo.	[04:15]
cads	mircea_popescu: I've always been a heavy reader, it's honest to goodness just the switching social contexts that do it	[04:15]
jborkl	Now we know how msft hacks, just leave the password blank	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	cads i can see it. needs practice tho	[04:17]
cads	not a bad thing if I happen to also take measures to increase the effective bandwidth of the text I read	[04:18]
cads	another area I could improve on is being taken in by heavy use of jargon	[04:19]
benkay	just set scam filters to trigger hard when jargon appears	[04:19]
cads	but that's because I tend to fill in the details with the actual real work I've read dealing with the terms	[04:19]
cads	and fool myself that the author really means something	[04:20]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: what is the ad space cost on bitbet?	[04:20]
cads	benkay: I live and breath jargon :)	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83000 @ 0.00097009 = 80.5175 BTC [+] {7}	[04:20]
cads	oh, hey, this reminds me	[04:22]
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cads	idea I've had for a while	[04:22]
bounce	ok, lower bound is still 405925: all silvers are small, one year, all anons are yearly. upper bound is now 907675: all silvers are large, all anons are lifetime, and 3 years of dues for the yearlies	[04:22]
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cads	i want to teach math in a virtual pirate math university	[04:22]
cads	where our library is a virtual library of pirated shiz	[04:22]
cads	and our teachers are just kids on the net	[04:22]
thestringpuller	da fuq you on about?	[04:22]
cads	being Professor Cads in an underground university	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller minium of .1, rotation based on what you pay	[04:23]
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thestringpuller	is that for like what a month?	[04:24]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2001 @ 0.0001482 = 0.2965 BTC [+] {8}	[04:31]
kakobrekla	yes	[04:31]
bounce	(assuming the industry memberships are lifetime, doesn't say one way or the other)	[04:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1500 @ 0.0001488 = 0.2232 BTC [+]	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/	[04:34]
ozbot	These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	surf fund and topics.	[04:34]
cazalla	did you see their office?	[04:35]
cazalla	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOSHM25CUAExszy.jpg	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	dude what fucking difference does it make.	[04:35]
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mircea_popescu	i know plenty of quite competend hedgies that don't even have an office.	[04:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 582 @ 0.00558241 = 3.249 BTC [-] {20}	[04:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 408 @ 0.00540766 = 2.2063 BTC [-] {9}	[04:40]
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thestringpuller	lol you're better off investing blindly on bets in bitbet than investing it with tards on teh forum	[04:42]
thestringpuller	!ticker m s.bbet	[04:42]
assbot	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00056 / 0.00056 / 0.00056 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00049074 / 0.00059 (12152 shares, 5.96 BTC)	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	prolly.	[04:43]
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mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/	[04:46]
ozbot	BitBet - NeoBee Orphaned in 2014	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	whoever made that thing knew.	[04:46]
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kakobrekla	thestringpuller just copy the mods really.	[04:48]
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thestringpuller	lolol	[04:50]
kakobrekla	what is so funny	[04:51]
thestringpuller	that placing bets on bitbet is likely to have a greater yield than with the scam mp just presented	[04:51]
thestringpuller	can't help but laugh...	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	not even a scam, just kids being tarded.	[04:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.06598907 = 0.3299 BTC [-]	[05:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.037 = 0.185 BTC [-]	[05:03]
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mircea_popescu	punkman and yet they're not in here.	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	"HOTEL MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, INC."	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/TUCN this'd be them.	[14:47]
ozbot	TUCN \| Stock Price Quote for Hotel Management Systems Inc.	[14:47]
punkman	BTCS now	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	makes no diff. weighted alpha -60%	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	that means they reflected 60% of the movement in their industry, the other direction.	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	almost as good as your average forum investor.	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	1 Year Return %: -72.97%	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	3 Year Return %: -410.81%	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	5 Year Return %: -98.72%	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	trading 0.0050+0.0007 atm. i guess an article is in order.	[14:49]
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mircea_popescu	punkman http://trilema.com/2014/scam-flavour-of-the-day-bitcoinshopus-aka-hotel-management-systems-inc-tucn/	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	ty for teh tip.	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	want a link to a blog/social media acct/something from your nick ?	[15:01]
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mircea_popescu	[KS] the classification doesn't go like that. there's two distinct angles being confounded.	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	from the investor pov, "it's a scam" to "it's a legit business" roughly maps their revenue. in this sense, a good corp in a bad market is a "scam".	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	from the corp pov, "it's a scam" to "it's a legit business" roughly maps their honesty. in this sense, shit badly mismanaged by honest but clueless people is "not a scam"	[15:10]
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mircea_popescu	then the debate "it's a scam" vs "it's not a scam" can rage indefinitely, opposing some people arguing "this is so stupid it'll never see a return" with people arguing "these people are so honest and nice and trustworthy they don't even call women bitch ever!"	[15:11]
mircea_popescu	nonsensical debate.	[15:11]
locksmith	hey guys	[15:12]
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locksmith	here's something funny someone said to me on reddit	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	i personally hold the latter responsible for it, because somehow it has been implanted in the head of every clueless fuckwit that how nice you are matters. it dun matter for shit.	[15:12]
locksmith	"You are the alt account of ThickAsThieves, posting in IRC also as Sherlock & locksmith. So, why dont you start explaining how you and the ret of the Mircea team FUDed this up, hey?"	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	o hey, welcome to the dreamteam, locksmith	[15:12]
locksmith	btw my reddit username is sherlocksmith	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	this chan is logged, and everybody in bitcoin reads it. even the redditards.	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	well, the minority that can read anyway.	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	speaking of which,	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	.bait	[15:13]
ozbot	http://25.media.tumblr.com/e8ab0210530f2c108dd31a55232ce0c1/tumblr_mr19a1Tq5z1sqhhcto1_500.png	[15:13]
locksmith	nice	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	not bad yeah.	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	extra knickers but w/e.	[15:13]
locksmith	yeah, I'm just trying to figure why that guy is connecting me to TaT though, beyond the fact that I've been warning people against neobee and also coming to this channel	[15:14]
mircea_popescu	beyond ?	[15:14]
mircea_popescu	what are you, from like the past ? this is the future dood.	[15:15]
locksmith	lol	[15:15]
chetty	those two items are enough to build a conspiracy :)	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	.d	[15:15]
locksmith	speaking of reddit, this is my latest hobby btw http://www.reddit.com/r/tumblrarchives	[15:15]
ozbot	6.120 billion \| Next Diff in 2007 blocks \| Estimated Change: -17.8582% in 16d 10h 12m 45s	[15:15]
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chetty	you only need 2 dots and the sharpie goes to work	[15:16]
mircea_popescu	cazalla: CoinLab now goldmember, toite like a toiger << i remember in like early 2013 when i was like, ycombinator is running btc scams, and people were like nonono, coinlab and coinbase are not the same thing! and coindesk is relevant!	[15:16]
mircea_popescu	orly.	[15:16]
locksmith	well, there's no such thing as anonymity, only pseudonimity	[15:16]
mircea_popescu	locksmith pity you weren't around when i stil ran dtng, you could have spammed reddit with links to that	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	better porn anyway.	[15:17]
locksmith	dtng?	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	yeah, old imgboard	[15:18]
locksmith	oh alright, I was trying to connect the dots with a sharpy and see if you could be linked to violentacrez	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	supposedly she's one of my many alternate female identitties.	[15:20]
locksmith	haha	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	http://www.thegwpf.org/ministry-of-truth-crackdown-ordered-on-climate-change-sceptics/	[15:20]
locksmith	you could've used it to spread more fud about neobee	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	this is pretty lulzy stuff. "oh noes, people say things we don't like to hear. SILENCE THEM!!11"	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	locksmith no cause then it'd have given the game away to the astute reddit monsterbators.	[15:21]
chetty	yeah see what happened to the DEO of Mozilla?	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	im saving that one for to ruin the feminist movement from inside or something.	[15:21]
chetty	s/CEO	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	chetty remember that article that hurt artifexd's feelings, which said programmers are fungible ?	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	well... he got fungibled.	[15:22]
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mircea_popescu	;;calc 1/450000	[15:23]
gribble	2.22222222222e-06	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	;;calc (1 - 1/450000) * 100	[15:23]
gribble	99.9997777778	[15:23]
locksmith	dude don't target femen! coz you know	[15:23]
locksmith	boobs	[15:23]
pankkake	femens don't have boobs	[15:23]
pankkake	;;calc (1 - 1/600000) * 100	[15:23]
gribble	99.9998333333	[15:23]
chetty	nah fungible he could go somewhere else, that guy will never work again	[15:23]
locksmith	pankkake stop spreading fud https://www.google.com.cy/search?q=femen&espv=2&es_sm=94&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=s_U_U86JKs3csgaW1oDoDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1301&bih=682	[15:24]
pankkake	I remembered them flatter	[15:24]
locksmith	they got all shapes and colors	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	ya srsly, the entire concept of femen is to form a group of little boys that pretend to be topless women.	[15:25]
locksmith	yeah but they chop down wooden crosses without a shirt on	[15:26]
locksmith	which is pretty hardcore	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	Mounties: He cuts down trees, he skips and jumps, he likes to press wild flowers.	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	He puts on women's clothing and hangs around.... In bars?	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	(but no, they're nice gals, i'm just being contrarian)	[15:26]
locksmith	so if I get this right, feminists are butthurt cos of having small boobs?	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	most annoying feminists i saw are butthurt cause you can't really make their boobs out among all the spare tires.	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	most pleasant feminists i know are simply not interested in getting it on with a failed boy pretending to be a man	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	and prefer to be my slaves instead.	[15:27]
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mircea_popescu	in between these, a continuum	[15:28]
locksmith	where I come from women are feminist by default. we change the configs though but some of them are using persistent state	[15:29]
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mircea_popescu	they should be feminists. woman in a harem eats a degree of magnitude more clam than snail. god help her if she doesn't like girls.	[15:30]
locksmith	yeh but they end up not putting out	[15:31]
locksmith	heard of a married couple the other day hasn't had sex in 4 years	[15:32]
locksmith	that's why divorces are soaring here	[15:32]
locksmith	people should just not get married	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	well they should definitely pick better.	[15:32]
chetty	God I hate feminists	[15:33]
mircea_popescu	this "ima get married cause everyone else is" nonsense obviously can't work any better than "i'ma '''invest''' cause the rest of reddit thinks so"	[15:33]
locksmith	I'm thinking it's best to live with someone, and if you end up not liking each other just split up. what's the point of bringing the state into the whole ordeal	[15:33]
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mircea_popescu	don't they have common law marriage where you live ?	[15:33]
locksmith	what's common law marriage	[15:33]
mircea_popescu	in most of the us the state involves itself anyway, provided you spend more than a few years together. or have kids.	[15:33]
mircea_popescu	it's a "married by default" thing.	[15:33]
mircea_popescu	in some us states merely failing to correct the other one's public claim you were married is good enough.	[15:34]
locksmith	oh yeah, this exists here, for couples with kids or people living together for more than 7 years	[15:34]
mircea_popescu	used to be 20 years about 20 years ago.	[15:34]
locksmith	but I don't live in the states	[15:34]
mircea_popescu	a well.	[15:34]
MisterE	in WA men have been forced to pay child support for children that were not theirs because they lived with and "bonded" with the family	[15:34]
MisterE	no doubt the guy was paying all the bills while he was there too	[15:34]
MisterE	terrible state to get divorced	[15:34]
MisterE	you want to file in Bexar County TX	[15:35]
locksmith	MisterE now that's just fucked up. if that happened to me nobody would ever see me again	[15:35]
MisterE	it's tilted so far in favor of woman in WA	[15:35]
mircea_popescu	locksmith why would nobody see YOU again ?	[15:35]
mircea_popescu	what, get new friends just because ?	[15:35]
locksmith	I'd hit the road man	[15:36]
mircea_popescu	if it happened to me nobody'd see that state again.	[15:36]
MisterE	in WA if someone calls police for domestic violence someone must go to jail	[15:36]
locksmith	mircea_popescu I was trying to not sound too terrorist-ish - I'm not hiding my IP :p	[15:36]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:36]
MisterE	friend of mine got tazed because cops were there when he got home and he couldn't believe it	[15:36]
mircea_popescu	dude. government IS SUPPOSED to be afraid of people.	[15:36]
mircea_popescu	and not just a little afraid either. fucking petrified.	[15:37]
MisterE	supposed indeed	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	trembling in terror.	[15:37]
MisterE	they sure have turned the tables on that one	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	well cause of you schmucks.	[15:37]
locksmith	hehe	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	never has a thing as powerless as the state ever been invented.	[15:37]
MisterE	hey I voted with my feet	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	that also works.	[15:37]
MisterE	8-years ago I saw the writing on the wall	[15:37]
MisterE	no more tax revenue from me	[15:37]
locksmith	for all the shit that Cyprus is, our police here is very mild	[15:37]
locksmith	you can go about the island and you only see police in their cars going around	[15:38]
locksmith	the most terrifiying thing about cyprus police is if you do a traffic violation	[15:38]
locksmith	that's their strong department, traffic	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	anyway, my car's here so ima split. if the bitcoinshop.us tards show up, have them make an appointment. nothing before 8pm gmt.	[15:39]
locksmith	ok, also if you guys see ThickAsThieves let him know I'm his alt-ego	[15:39]
pankkake	LiteAsThieves?	[15:40]
locksmith	no, this guy in reddit thinks that my username there, sherlocksmith, and my nick here, locksmith, is ThickAsThieves' alt identity	[15:41]
pankkake	lol, they're never out of sockpuppet conspiracies	[15:42]
locksmith	I have actually never even spoken to ThickAsThieves, but this guy sees I come to this channel and so doees ThickAsThieves	[15:43]
locksmith	so we must be the same person, you know?	[15:43]
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jurov	that fred quimby trilema stuff got me thinking	[16:17]
Apocalyptic	I really liked the article	[16:17]
jurov	Looks if i want to have more people around, I have to actually and mercilessly use them	[16:17]
jurov	not play toward their creative side	[16:18]
jurov	only then they stay in my company	[16:18]
jurov	But I don't want to surround me with people I secretly despise!	[16:19]
Apocalyptic	I didn't see that in the piece	[16:19]
jurov	it's closely related to the fungibility	[16:20]
jurov	and quimby did not buy his animator espresso machine or bean bags	[16:20]
Apocalyptic	the way you behave towards people is in no way related to their potential fungibility	[16:20]
Apocalyptic	the way you consider them however is something else	[16:20]
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jurov	Quite the opposite. And they worked for him and the results were excellent.	[16:20]
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jurov	Apocalyptic if i consider them somehow,i'll behave too	[16:22]
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jurov	that can't be split from each other	[16:22]
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Apocalyptic	I think it can	[16:23]
jurov	But that's beside the point. I saw the point "as do not treat anyone as exceptional"	[16:25]
Shakespeare	a team does need a leader jurov, but a leader doesnt despise his men	[16:25]
Shakespeare	he merely does not need to totally understand what they do	[16:25]
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Apocalyptic	jurov, I saw the point as a real life exemple of the value of management	[16:27]
Apocalyptic	proper management that is	[16:27]
Shakespeare	i think you'd find the working environment of successful "bean bag" companies to not be all espresso machines and fun	[16:27]
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Shakespeare	look at the hiring lockout thing between apple/google etc	[16:28]
Shakespeare	finding and keeping talent is fierce	[16:28]
Apocalyptic	and that is shouldn't be underestimated, as it tremendously often is	[16:28]
Apocalyptic	(re the salary argument, "does this guy really deserve to be paid xxxx ? he does nothing...")	[16:28]
jurov	Do you think Jobs and Schmidt did not despise(or had similar feeling) the underlings?	[16:29]
Apocalyptic	now that's beside the point, maybe they did, maybe they don't	[16:30]
Apocalyptic	*didn't	[16:30]
jurov	There just had to be some feeling of superiority in them to do what they did	[16:30]
pankkake	re moz CEO: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5651	[16:30]
Shakespeare	Jobs and the underlings he despised were probably several layers of mgmt removed	[16:30]
Shakespeare	it's not thaty they felt superior, it;s that they ARE superior	[16:31]
Shakespeare	so when inferior beings frustrate your plans how does that make you feel?	[16:31]
Shakespeare	we're getting away from the spirit of the Quimby article i think though	[16:33]
jurov	you're right, i'd be upset	[16:33]
Shakespeare	it was mostly about running a tight ship, regardless of your experience performing the art	[16:34]
Shakespeare	showing that mindset can be corrupted	[16:34]
jurov	Dunno. If I want to have company and attract and keep talent, that's what i need to become	[16:34]
Shakespeare	and leadership is a basic form	[16:34]
jurov	That was what tfa was about.	[16:35]
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Shakespeare	maybe you are not a leader	[16:35]
Shakespeare	you dont need to be	[16:35]
Shakespeare	or, maybe your decision as a good boss, migth be to hire a better manager	[16:36]
jurov	Well, I could barely stand being an employee since I remember.	[16:36]
Shakespeare	someone "brought in" Quimby right?	[16:36]
jurov	Yes,me.	[16:36]
Shakespeare	he didnt build the thing without intigation	[16:36]
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Shakespeare	instigation	[16:36]
jurov	And I can't do the travelling,freelancing and squatting nomad either, attractive it may be.	[16:37]
jurov	So the only option left is to have own company.	[16:37]
[KS]	mircea_popescu: I see your point, but it's an improper use of the word "scam". A scam is a fraud. A good corp in a bad market is just that. You made a bad investment and calling it a scam is just shifting the blame. Of course, don't try to explain them word things to "investors".	[16:38]
Shakespeare	so have a compan jurov!	[16:39]
Apocalyptic	he already has	[16:39]
jurov	Yes. Just discussing some difficulties with leading people.	[16:40]
jurov	*my	[16:40]
Shakespeare	yeah i didnt have much luck with it myself	[16:40]
Shakespeare	mainly found it impossible to find talent locally	[16:40]
Shakespeare	and impossiblly frustrating to educate the target audience i chose	[16:40]
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Shakespeare	i have a dictator in me, but it's a muddled one and I still can revert to worrying about employees hating me, etc	[16:42]
Shakespeare	eventually you just fire the ones that do because it makes them useless	[16:42]
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jurov	Um, I did not go to that point yet.	[16:43]
jurov	Just worked together with few people that would be potential employees	[16:45]
jurov	but all were either inept or lost interest	[16:45]
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Shakespeare	do you wish they didnt lose interest? or was it indicative of their likely performance anywya?	[16:46]
Shakespeare	kinda seems you might be worrying too much about being super boss this early	[16:46]
jurov	Seems they wanted guaranteed salary and I did not feel like bullshitting them.	[16:47]
Shakespeare	people have to have stake to care	[16:48]
jurov	And once you pay full salary, you have to be super boss...	[16:48]
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Shakespeare	whether it be salary, equity, etc	[16:48]
Shakespeare	it could even be their own desire to see the work done	[16:48]
Shakespeare	or do the specific work	[16:48]
Shakespeare	some kind of stake	[16:48]
jurov	Or their mortgage.	[16:49]
Shakespeare	yeah if they hard up, just the promise of moneymight do	[16:49]
Shakespeare	what's your company do anyway?	[16:49]
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jurov	I have coinbr + 3 other projects in various stages...need mostly sysadmin(s).	[16:51]
Shakespeare	i have only bad experience with such people and staffing, i'm no help...	[16:53]
jurov	lol	[16:53]
Shakespeare	maybe merge with some other co that offers good ones?	[16:53]
jurov	Yeah, with niggers.txt	[16:54]
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jurov	they failed to deliver too, btw.	[16:54]
Shakespeare	lol	[16:54]
Apocalyptic	dem niggers	[16:55]
Shakespeare	was your intent to be a net-based workplace?	[16:55]
Shakespeare	or to have an office of your staff?	[16:55]
Shakespeare	in my own experience, online thing is much worse and harder to manage employees/quality	[16:56]
jurov	Trying the first one, maybe I should do the second instead	[16:56]
Shakespeare	if you hire online people, they need to have super track record of delivering	[16:56]
Shakespeare	and any of those guys probly dont need you	[16:56]
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Shakespeare	which means some other kind of stake	[16:57]
chetty	jurov, you dont need to that hard on employees. what you need is their respect.	[17:05]
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chetty	its like raising kids, parents try to be friends not parents. You just need to be the boss, not their friend	[17:06]
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nubbins`	^	[17:12]
nubbins`	"i want my son to be my best friend"	[17:12]
nubbins`	well, your son's gonna be a fuckin asshole	[17:13]
chetty	nubbins`, +1	[17:17]
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chairman_meow	hello	[17:20]
chairman_meow	anyone recommend an investment?	[17:20]
chetty	haha, avoid scams - due diligence is always called for, more in bitcoins	[17:22]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18990 @ 0.00097205 = 18.4592 BTC [+]	[17:33]
chairman_meow	assbot heh	[17:34]
bounce	jurov: I think you misread the piece. the guy had an enthousiastic stable of creatives. all he really had to do was keep'em focused, which does not include letting them hare off every which way.	[17:35]
jurov	bounce why the fungibility highlight then?	[17:42]
jurov	emphasis even	[17:43]
chetty	cause thats the way MP writes, he exaggerates everything to make a point	[17:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1029 @ 0.00013671 = 0.1407 BTC [-] {4}	[17:46]
jurov	so what was the point of fungibility part?	[17:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1544 @ 0.00013697 = 0.2115 BTC [+] {2}	[17:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4500 @ 0.00013599 = 0.612 BTC [-] {2}	[17:50]
danielpbarron	anyone who bothered to read the bio of that Dr. Whateverhisnameis would have known to stay far away from that "investment"	[17:50]
danielpbarron	it's written like a parody	[17:50]
chetty	due diligence is seriously lacking among the muppets	[17:51]
jurov	"genuinely love your people... like cogs in your machine"	[17:52]
danielpbarron	eh, i'm giving them too much credit, he didn't come off that well in his own forum thread; they had adequate warning	[17:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014299 = 0.143 BTC [+] {2}	[17:56]
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chetty	well the machine wont work without cogs, and good cogs are better	[17:56]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.000143 = 0.143 BTC [+]	[17:57]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3076 @ 0.0001431 = 0.4402 BTC [+] {3}	[18:01]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014788 = 0.1479 BTC [+]	[18:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00088842 = 0.1777 BTC [+]	[18:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05580951 = 0.1116 BTC [+] {2}	[18:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.055808 = 0.1674 BTC [-] {3}	[18:40]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[18:41]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 451.46, Best ask: 451.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 451.8, 24 hour volume: 5754.99089432, 24 hour low: 439.99, 24 hour high: 456.23, 24 hour vwap: 447.289472287	[18:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6154 @ 0.00097407 = 5.9944 BTC [+]	[18:49]
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chairman_meow	hey what do you think of CBTC losses?	[18:53]
pankkake	losses?	[18:54]
danielpbarron	https://www.cbtc.com/ Community Bank of Chesapeake?	[18:56]
ozbot	Community Bank of the Chesapeake, Southern Maryland and Virginia	[18:56]
danielpbarron	or http://www.cbtc.org/CBTC/Welcome.html Coastal Bicycle Touring Club?	[18:56]
chairman_meow	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=CBTC	[18:57]
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danielpbarron	i think everything about that whole exchange is sketchy, but individuals keep using it so what do i know	[18:57]
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chairman_meow	heh. it looks like CBTC has never made a profit	[18:58]
danielpbarron	that's not a shock	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 107 @ 0.001565 = 0.1675 BTC [-] {4}	[18:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share	[18:59]
pankkake	why are they paying dividends then?	[18:59]
chairman_meow	beats me	[18:59]
danielpbarron	but investing isn't about making money for most individuals; they are happy just to participate	[18:59]
pankkake	"This has been tried before. His response was about his love of life and how many of his friends and family have died when he was young."	[18:59]
Apocalyptic	Management Fees ฿104.6200	[18:59]
chetty	actual profits are pretty rare in bitcoin space.	[18:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.0009695 = 18.1781 BTC [-] {3}	[19:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.08562688 BTC to 5`076 shares, 41088 satoshi per share	[19:00]
danielpbarron	lol i'm pretty rare i guess	[19:00]
benkay	actual businesses are pretty rare in bitcoin space chetty	[19:01]
danielpbarron	it's pretty easy if you make sure that what goes in is more than what goes out	[19:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 66.40585632 BTC to 5`076 shares, 1308232 satoshi per share	[19:01]
benkay	;;lasers	[19:02]
gribble	┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ pew! pew! pew!	[19:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.05756002 = 0.8634 BTC [-] {5}	[19:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.0381 = 1.3335 BTC [+]	[19:02]
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chetty	benkay, +1	[19:02]
thestringpuller	danielpbarron: depends on if the business touches fiat ever...	[19:03]
benkay	lotsa new handles in here -- y'all in the WoT yet?	[19:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 43 @ 0.05118139 = 2.2008 BTC [-] {3}	[19:03]
*	danielpbarron is	[19:03]
benkay	and who are you, danielpbarron	[19:03]
benkay	?	[19:03]
benkay	what's your flavor of scam?	[19:03]
danielpbarron	Daniel Peter Barron	[19:03]
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danielpbarron	don't trust me	[19:03]
danielpbarron	i have no investments for you	[19:04]
benkay	o ya you're the troll thumper	[19:04]
benkay	what are you doing here, danielpbarron ?	[19:04]
danielpbarron	am I in the wrong place? I thought this was ground zero of the Bitcoin Business community	[19:05]
benkay	hence the question "what are you doing here"	[19:05]
danielpbarron	lol, start making sense	[19:05]
benkay	not as in get out of here as you no doubt hear all the time, but what precisely are you doing.	[19:05]
danielpbarron	learning	[19:05]
chetty	worthy action	[19:06]
danielpbarron	i think it would be irressponsible to hold BTC and NOT be in here	[19:06]
thestringpuller	better than the forums...	[19:06]
danielpbarron	that's an understatement	[19:06]
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benkay	danielpbarron: do you have this 'hoarders will starve' thesis of yours written out anywhere in more detail than 140 characters including a link allows for?	[19:07]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.10144642 = 2.2318 BTC [-]	[19:08]
danielpbarron	what are you talking about	[19:08]
benkay	ah i misread	[19:09]
danielpbarron	(i don't mean that isn't my twitter account, it is)	[19:09]
benkay	hoarder's won't starve, misconceiving bitcoin will kill you is that the gist?	[19:09]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.05779984 = 0.867 BTC [+] {5}	[19:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0371 = 0.1113 BTC [-] {2}	[19:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.038525 = 0.3082 BTC [+] {2}	[19:13]
danielpbarron	individuals who oppose deflationary currencies in favor of inflationary, based on having being duped into thinking that someone would sooner starve to death then part with savings, will themselves starve to death when the infastructure feeding them inevitably collapses due to the inability of central banks to print their way into prosperity	[19:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0589999 = 0.236 BTC [+]	[19:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05580801 = 0.1116 BTC [+]	[19:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 56 @ 0.05023069 = 2.8129 BTC [-] {8}	[19:15]
benkay	p much.	[19:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.039 = 1.053 BTC [+]	[19:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [-]	[19:18]
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benkay	i had a crypto nightmare last night	[19:21]
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benkay	had a machine lifted with passphrase cached	[19:21]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.03737188 = 1.009 BTC [-] {3}	[19:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 22 @ 0.05 = 1.1 BTC [-] {4}	[19:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.08299776 = 1.826 BTC [-]	[19:25]
cgcardona_	and the passphrase was 'aaaaaaaa' - it was truly a nightmare :)	[19:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 27 @ 0.08299776 = 2.2409 BTC [-]	[19:26]
benkay	the neobee physical locations never even existed?	[19:28]
cgcardona_	great rules btw (I only discovered the room yesterday) http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ "Pros don’t give a shit, it’s the clueless twits and assorted pretenders that do"	[19:29]
cgcardona_	nicely put	[19:29]
benkay	here's a tough one	[19:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00097242 = 11.8635 BTC [+]	[19:30]
benkay	which affiliation makes you look dumber to the average potential client?	[19:30]
benkay	bitcoin?	[19:30]
benkay	twitter?	[19:31]
Apocalyptic	depends on your audience I guess	[19:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [-] {2}	[19:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0361 = 0.1083 BTC [-] {2}	[19:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.08299776 = 0.249 BTC [-]	[19:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05349999 = 0.107 BTC [+] {2}	[19:33]
benkay	doubtless.	[19:33]
kakobrekla	bitcoin or myspace?	[19:34]
cgcardona_	depends what you mean by 'average' - I recently got a new part time job in SF w/ some relatively tech savvy people. During the interview we talked about btc and I told them about my project. The team leaders response was 'I think bitcoin is cool. I'm just not sure if it's gonna be the winner' (fair enough i suppose).	[19:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.056 = 0.168 BTC [+]	[19:34]
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cgcardona_	On the flip side I recently took on a client in honolulu and he is incredibly tech savvy and wanted nothing to do w/ twitter integration	[19:35]
cgcardona_	a third anecdotal evidence is my wife recently asked a local music store here on kauai if they'd let her buy me an ukelele for my bday w/ btc and they basically laughed her out of the store.	[19:35]
cgcardona_	so depending on where in the spectrum the person falls it would change (obvisously)	[19:36]
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cgcardona_	*obviously	[19:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.05121599 = 1.2804 BTC [-] {5}	[19:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.03574997 = 0.858 BTC [-] {9}	[19:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.08299776 = 1.9919 BTC [-]	[19:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15731 @ 0.00096355 = 15.1576 BTC [-] {4}	[19:39]
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ellen_degenerate	!help	[19:45]
assbot	List of commands:	[19:45]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}	[19:45]
assbot	!last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}	[19:45]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[19:45]
assbot	!rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}	[19:45]
assbot	!exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}	[19:45]
assbot	!jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)	[19:45]
assbot	!bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b}	[19:45]
assbot	!quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}	[19:45]
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thestringpuller	!jd	[19:45]
assbot	Just-Dice stat: 15307 BTC profit, 31.9k BTC invested, 981.18 mio bets, 5.14 mio BTC wagered	[19:45]
MisterE	http://loyalkng.com/2009/11/11/romanian-becomes-possessed-while-on-live-television/	[19:48]
ozbot	Romanian Becomes Possessed While on Live Television — LOYAL K.N.G.	[19:48]
MisterE	is it true?	[19:48]
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mikaeldice	I didn't read the article, but a cursory glance at the title ensures me that yes, it must be true.	[19:51]
mikaeldice	*assures	[19:52]
ellen_degenerate	!dd	[19:52]
ellen_degenerate	heh I was looking for dogedice stats	[19:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0057028 = 0.2851 BTC [+] {6}	[19:57]
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kakobrekla	so	[19:58]
kakobrekla	nefarios new exchange has shut down before it opened	[19:58]
kakobrekla	congrats are in order.	[19:59]
danielpbarron	he's still doing stuff?	[19:59]
danielpbarron	does the scammer tag mean nothing?	[19:59]
kakobrekla	trying to do stuff. no, scammer tag means more biz	[20:00]
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nubbins`	;;seen mike_c	[20:02]
gribble	mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 10 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.	[20:02]
nubbins`	lel.	[20:02]
kakobrekla	!t h neobeeq	[20:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 0.00010486 / 0.00020000 (275859 shares, 28.92529637 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 0.00010486 / 0.00020000 (275859 shares, 28.92529637 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00193918 / 0.00450000 (665368 shares, 1290.27026328 BTC)	[20:02]
kakobrekla	!l h neobeeq	[20:02]
assbot	Last trade for NEOBEEQ on HAVELOCK was at 0.00012801 BTC [+]	[20:02]
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Apocalyptic	seriously #bitcoin is painfull to read today...	[20:03]
danielpbarron	i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it	[20:03]
Apocalyptic	everyone is a quantum crypto expert	[20:03]
danielpbarron	lol, hi Apocalyptic	[20:03]
Apocalyptic	everyone has an "idea"	[20:03]
danielpbarron	hey at least i'm up front about how my "idea" is probably wrong	[20:04]
kakobrekla	i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it < BAT U GOTSTA DIVERSIFUCK	[20:04]
Apocalyptic	danielpbarron, yeah that's a good approach in learning	[20:04]
danielpbarron	making a credit/debit card that links to Bitcoin kinda defeats the whole purpose of Bitcoin; i realize that now	[20:04]
Apocalyptic	but then don't ruin it by arguing with me what "public key" means	[20:04]
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thestringpuller	;;seen mike_c	[20:05]
gribble	mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 14 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.	[20:05]
danielpbarron	(not that I invested in neobee or the like)	[20:05]
thestringpuller	;;later tell mike_c eulora wiki is down. /cry	[20:05]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[20:05]
danielpbarron	(not that I invest at all, unless holding BTC counts)	[20:06]
thestringpuller	invest in yourself? lol	[20:07]
kakobrekla	we already discussed that	[20:08]
kakobrekla	thats trilema credits.	[20:08]
thestringpuller	i have enough trilema credits to last me till mircea has a full head of gray hair	[20:08]
kakobrekla	hehe	[20:08]
thestringpuller	lol	[20:08]
thestringpuller	i should probably just archive all of it	[20:08]
thestringpuller	put it on a disc and bury it in my yard in case: apocalypse	[20:09]
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danielpbarron	his is a clever system, you aren't paying to read the article forever; you're paying for the request to the server (which might happen multiple times per article if you keep going back to re-read)	[20:09]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05497995 = 0.11 BTC [+]	[20:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00097242 = 30.8257 BTC [+]	[20:10]
thestringpuller	yes if you want nice things you have to pay for them	[20:10]
thestringpuller	like the electricity and bandwidth trilema consumes lol	[20:10]
thestringpuller	(and vodka, and other various drugs)	[20:10]
danielpbarron	i'm not complaining; I like the system very much	[20:11]
MisterE	no ads?	[20:11]
danielpbarron	most articles that are free to read usually suck anyway	[20:11]
danielpbarron	which should come as no surprise to anyone with even a tenuous understanding of economics	[20:11]
thestringpuller	MisterE: i assume no need for ads if you have a paywall	[20:12]
MisterE	yea, just asking because my hosts file blocks most I never know	[20:12]
MisterE	extension gets the stragglers heh	[20:12]
thestringpuller	lol	[20:12]
danielpbarron	i would so much rather pay per article then bother with ad-blocking	[20:13]
MisterE	yea I planned to buy some credits	[20:13]
MisterE	soon	[20:13]
danielpbarron	it's worth it	[20:13]
danielpbarron	buy them while they are still cheap	[20:13]
MisterE	Im in fiat atm except cold storage	[20:13]
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danielpbarron	before Bitcoin, i would have said the opposite to all that	[20:14]
danielpbarron	prefer ads to paywall etc	[20:14]
MisterE	you kow what I agree	[20:14]
danielpbarron	but that's because FIAT SUCKS	[20:14]
MisterE	I prefer btc paywall	[20:14]
pankkake	I wouldn't have an issue with a global paywall. if I have to register to every website, fuck it	[20:15]
MisterE	happily pay to read ars and the sites I like	[20:15]
danielpbarron	i don't want to give some stranger my credit card number to read an article	[20:15]
pankkake	I guess bitcoin makes it a bit simpler	[20:15]
cgcardona_	yea one of the biggest things that's changed in my perception since regularly using btc is how fucked it feels to give a stranger my credit card info.	[20:15]
MisterE	lol right	[20:15]
danielpbarron	srsly	[20:16]
MisterE	and you pay dearly for that privledge	[20:16]
pankkake	you rarely do that though. it's paypal or some bank credit card processor	[20:16]
MisterE	fucking swipe fees merchant fees	[20:16]
cgcardona_	even at restaraunts	[20:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]	[20:16]
MisterE	processor fees	[20:16]
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MisterE	international tx fees FFS!	[20:16]
danielpbarron	fees aside, why does a 3rd party have to be involved at all? They can block the trade or get the state involved	[20:17]
cgcardona_	$5.00 minimum payments at gas stations etc have been making me buy double the crap I want for years	[20:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05497995 = 0.11 BTC [+]	[20:17]
danielpbarron	that's why Bitcoin	[20:17]
cgcardona_	try to grab a tea and chips "oh sorry it has to be $5." "ok just double the order"	[20:17]
MisterE	I'm in Bangkok and want money in the US in 5 min	[20:17]
cgcardona_	guess I should carry more cash >_<	[20:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]	[20:18]
danielpbarron	yeah i'm always paying in cash and answering "no" to "want a receipt?"	[20:18]
cgcardona_	damn the difficulty jump yesterday was intense http://bitcoindifficulty.com/	[20:20]
cgcardona_	maybe assbot has an api for showing the difficulty. i'm not sure	[20:21]
cgcardona_	!help	[20:21]
assbot	List of commands:	[20:21]
assbot	!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}	[20:21]
assbot	!last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}	[20:21]
assbot	!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)	[20:21]
assbot	!rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}	[20:21]
assbot	!exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}	[20:21]
assbot	!jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)	[20:21]
assbot	!bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b}	[20:21]
assbot	!quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}	[20:21]
cgcardona_	hmmm. !ticker	[20:21]
cgcardona_	!ticker	[20:21]
assbot	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.	[20:21]
cgcardona_	interesting :)	[20:21]
cgcardona_	maybe I have to pay btc to get access to more than 5 assbot commands per day?	[20:22]
cgcardona_	;-]	[20:22]
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thestringpuller	;;estimate	[20:22]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 6966233925.09 based on data since last change \| 6959577195.63 based on data for last three days	[20:22]
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cgcardona_	ah nice	[20:22]
punkman	you can play with the bots in private too	[20:22]
cgcardona_	ah yes good point. I don't mean to spam the channel. sorry bout that	[20:22]
punkman	!t h rent	[20:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (838 shares, 6.28500000 BTC), 7D: 0.00610000 / 0.00744584 / 0.00750000 (18267 shares, 136.01321414 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00626078 / 0.00900001 (53882 shares, 337.34351440 BTC)	[20:22]
MisterE	$9 mil ouch http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2337930/windows-xp-thrown-last-minute-lifeline-with-gbp55m-uk-government-deal	[20:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 175 @ 0.00088842 = 0.1555 BTC [+] {3}	[20:27]
punkman	found the most delicious sheep's milk today, non-homogenized, 6% fat, and doesn't smell like sheep ass	[20:27]
MisterE	non ass milk++	[20:28]
punkman	I really prefer sheep/goat to cow milk, but can't find any consistent supply	[20:28]
MisterE	make cheese?	[20:28]
MisterE	goat is my fav	[20:28]
MisterE	very cold	[20:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05458399 = 0.2729 BTC [+] {3}	[20:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 550 @ 0.00088844 = 0.4886 BTC [+]	[20:28]
MisterE	that goat cheese is the bomb too	[20:28]
danielpbarron	i live down the road from some neighbors who have goats	[20:28]
punkman	I live on an island full of sheep and goats	[20:29]
MisterE	hell they are yummy to eat too	[20:29]
punkman	the cheese is consistently good	[20:29]
wywialm	;;later tell bitcoinpete I've read your deflation article. Do you believe that 1) prices may be downward rigid? 2) wages may be downward rigid? If yes, what is the impact on these in a substantially deflationary regime?	[20:29]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[20:29]
danielpbarron	they let me milk one of the goats too	[20:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 600 @ 0.00017736 = 0.1064 BTC [+]	[20:29]
danielpbarron	that's in past tense; i don't go back there (they are a false church)	[20:30]
punkman	I should move further away from the city and get my own goat	[20:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.04530615 = 0.589 BTC [-] {5}	[20:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03642999 = 0.1457 BTC [-] {4}	[20:31]
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danielpbarron	i want to sell shares to my friends and family to start a garden on my yard (to try out managing profit/loss and paying dividends)	[20:32]
punkman	how much of a garden are you thinking?	[20:33]
thestringpuller	danielpbarron: that's not a bad idea	[20:34]
danielpbarron	something small	[20:34]
thestringpuller	how would you sell the product from the garden?	[20:34]
thestringpuller	what is your distribution channel?	[20:34]
thestringpuller	farmers market?	[20:34]
punkman	they come pick it up	[20:34]
thestringpuller	oh interesting	[20:34]
thestringpuller	people invest in the garden and then get lifetime supply of stuff grown	[20:34]
thestringpuller	BRILLIANT	[20:34]
danielpbarron	i would sell to myself and those who invested	[20:34]
danielpbarron	it's just for practice	[20:35]
mikaeldice	Even the neighbors with the false church?	[20:35]
danielpbarron	no	[20:35]
danielpbarron	heh i literally mean like 3 or 4 individuals	[20:35]
mikaeldice	What about atheists and buddhists?	[20:35]
danielpbarron	including myself	[20:35]
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danielpbarron	i've always wanted to grow my own food but i'm never motivated enough to do it	[20:36]
punkman	farming's hard work for most people	[20:36]
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danielpbarron	i wouldn't sell to anyone outside as that would attract state attention	[20:36]
thestringpuller	lol punkman http://trilema.com/2014/scam-flavour-of-the-day-bitcoinshopus-aka-hotel-management-systems-inc-tucn/ - has that been discussed yet?	[20:37]
mikaeldice	hum.. My phone powers on the screen to tell me it's low on power. Something's wrong there.	[20:37]
twizt	lol companies cant go public without being in here?	[20:39]
punkman	thestringpuller: it's not worth much discussion, just another scam penny stock, just caught my eye because they changed their ticker to BTCS	[20:40]
danielpbarron	twizt: ya	[20:40]
danielpbarron	twizt: legic companies can't	[20:41]
twizt	sounds like a weird barrier	[20:41]
twizt	so ebay cant accept bitcoins anymore? needs a wot acct/	[20:41]
punkman	incidentally, I was searching for "BTCS" because some scamchange lost 50,000 "BTCS", and BTCS turns out to be BTC-sCrypt	[20:41]
twizt	lol	[20:42]
danielpbarron	legit* what sounds weird is investing in a stranger who took no time to familiarize himself with the community that has built the Bitcoin economy	[20:42]
twizt	where do i sign up to be ebays fulltime #bitcoin-assets rep?	[20:42]
twizt	im in here all the time, might as well get paid	[20:42]
punkman	twizt, you work at ebay?	[20:42]
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danielpbarron	eBay doesn't need to WoT because they are already trusted	[20:43]
twizt	nah but if they wanna pay me 90k to idle here	[20:43]
twizt	i will	[20:43]
danielpbarron	you aren't eBay	[20:43]
twizt	so what happens when a wot business becomes a scam?	[20:44]
twizt	do people bitch less or more?	[20:44]
danielpbarron	"becomes?"	[20:44]
punkman	the wot doesn't make decisions for you	[20:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 77 @ 0.08299776 = 6.3908 BTC [-] {3}	[20:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 750 @ 0.00014798 = 0.111 BTC [-] {2}	[20:44]
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twizt	becomes = > ie really ends up being a scam	[20:45]
danielpbarron	right, as in, it was always a scam	[20:45]
thestringpuller	twizt: this happens: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero	[20:45]
thestringpuller	sort by rating	[20:46]
twizt	whats stops that guy from coming back thestringpuller	[20:46]
thestringpuller	he can never use that handle again	[20:46]
thestringpuller	or that gpg key	[20:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014994 = 0.1499 BTC [+] {6}	[20:46]
danielpbarron	there is a demand for scammers and individuals like that simply supply it	[20:46]
thestringpuller	he could start anew, turning over a new leaf	[20:47]
thestringpuller	but then what happens when we find out the new person is actually an old known scammer?	[20:47]
twizt	and how is being unable to use handle or gpg key preventing anything?	[20:47]
thestringpuller	because trust is everything	[20:47]
danielpbarron	twizt: do you trust anybody?	[20:47]
thestringpuller	3 years of building trust takes forever	[20:47]
twizt	well if they are taking 500+ bitcoins everytime	[20:48]
twizt	better than minimum wage job right?	[20:48]
danielpbarron	heh, unless my math is wrong here.. i think it would take exactly 3 years, thestringpuller	[20:48]
danielpbarron	twizt: if you can pull then off then by all means, do it	[20:49]
danielpbarron	that* ugh	[20:49]
thestringpuller	scamming isn't really a good business model	[20:49]
twizt	nah i dont have the patience to be a sociopath	[20:49]
danielpbarron	if you think 500 BTC is a lot....	[20:50]
thestringpuller	some people are willing to tarnish their WoT reputation, but that makes the non scammers that much more trustworthy	[20:50]
twizt	losing my trust is not worth 500+ bitcoins	[20:50]
kakobrekla	twbt wot is a tool, like a map, it wont do the job by itself, you have to know how to read it, then it helps.	[20:50]
kakobrekla	twizt	[20:50]
thestringpuller	twizt: exactly	[20:50]
twizt	i think u misread	[20:51]
twizt	who cares how long someone has trust	[20:51]
twizt	if that 1 time they fuck up after 3 years	[20:51]
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danielpbarron	all the trust in the world doesn't make up for woefully incompetent business plans, which describes almost all Bitcoin scams	[20:52]
twizt	my bet would be against the most 'trustworthy'	[20:52]
twizt	ttfu	[20:52]
twizt	time till fuck up	[20:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.08295533 = 0.5807 BTC [+] {3}	[20:53]
punkman	that's why you don't invest in people that are trying to pump&dump reputation at BTCJam	[20:53]
danielpbarron	there are escrows and hedges and bla bla; yeah someone can have a change of heart and run with the money, but if you planned correctly there should be contingency plans	[20:53]
twizt	if wot had peoples names and addresses	[20:54]
twizt	secued	[20:54]
twizt	and only doxed on fuck up	[20:54]
twizt	then maybe i see y wot would be great	[20:54]
twizt	secured*	[20:54]
danielpbarron	because those things can't be forged..	[20:54]
kakobrekla	you are delirious	[20:54]
kakobrekla	http://dcm6srpdb0rbc.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Guz8r.png	[20:55]
kakobrekla	go get him tiger.	[20:55]
twizt	yea but we cant have that now right, cuz people gotta stay anon lol	[20:55]
twizt	sorry for delirium8	[20:55]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]	[20:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3265 @ 0.00014999 = 0.4897 BTC [-] {3}	[20:56]
kakobrekla	btw twizt many people in the wot dont hide their identities, including me.	[20:56]
Namworld	That's not too far from me on my IDs. When I had long hair that is.	[20:56]
twizt	thats good kakobrekla	[20:56]
danielpbarron	or me (nick is real name)	[20:56]
Namworld	I now cut my hair short.	[20:56]
thestringpuller	alberto?	[20:56]
thestringpuller	the btc day trade guy?	[20:56]
thestringpuller	@ kakobrekla	[20:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1308 @ 0.00015 = 0.1962 BTC [+] {3}	[20:57]
kakobrekla	labcoin, bitdaytrade, btcrebate ,... you name it	[20:57]
kakobrekla	also iirc kronos.io	[20:57]
kakobrekla	and two non btc scams before that	[20:57]
kakobrekla	at least.	[20:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3692 @ 0.00015 = 0.5538 BTC [+]	[20:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0858 = 0.1716 BTC [+]	[20:58]
Apocalyptic	guy seems to have a nice track record	[20:58]
thestringpuller	damn son	[20:58]
danielpbarron	heh, dr. whatshisface negged kakobrekla; that's a positive in my book	[20:58]
kakobrekla	ah, dr foreskin	[20:58]
danielpbarron	lol	[20:59]
Apocalyptic	;;gettrust kakobrekla	[20:59]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Apocalyptic to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 8 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Apocalyptic&dest=kakobrekla \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla \| Rated since: Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011	[20:59]
danielpbarron	reading that guy's bio is a riot	[20:59]
kakobrekla	hehe	[20:59]
Apocalyptic	nice profile kako, not one neg	[21:00]
kakobrekla	heh	[21:00]
Apocalyptic	even Usagi rated you +3	[21:00]
kakobrekla	well, i had a short contract with him very early on. he paid ok.	[21:01]
kakobrekla	but iirc i removed the rating to him later on	[21:02]
kakobrekla	when thingy got fucked.	[21:02]
kakobrekla	things*	[21:02]
kakobrekla	but yeah, he lost, had to swallow a big loss and he did.	[21:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]	[21:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.04806131 = 1.9225 BTC [-] {6}	[21:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0347 = 0.1388 BTC [-]	[21:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+]	[21:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0347 = 0.1388 BTC [-]	[21:17]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 115 @ 0.0008884 = 0.1022 BTC [-]	[21:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00035241 = 0.1057 BTC [+]	[21:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05479908 = 0.2192 BTC [+]	[21:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-]	[21:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.08299776 = 0.498 BTC [-] {2}	[21:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2846 @ 0.00097242 = 2.7675 BTC [+]	[21:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 980 @ 0.00017733 = 0.1738 BTC [+]	[21:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]	[21:34]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.58018111 = 2.9009 BTC [-] {5}	[21:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00097591 = 12.1989 BTC [+]	[21:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.0075 = 0.45 BTC [+]	[21:38]
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MisterE	wow, http://imgur.com/gallery/fOiLd	[21:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7573 @ 0.00097591 = 7.3906 BTC [+]	[21:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05479902 = 0.1644 BTC [-] {2}	[21:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0348 = 0.1044 BTC [+] {2}	[21:51]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 901 @ 0.00015 = 0.1352 BTC [+]	[21:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]	[21:57]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00097092 = 11.5539 BTC [-]	[22:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]	[22:21]
Mats_cd03	If i bought s.mpoe this month would i see dividends in the following period considering the outsized payment in march	[22:23]
jurov	Mats_cd03: did you actually read the reports?	[22:24]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00553528 = 0.2823 BTC [-] {3}	[22:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00550358 = 0.1926 BTC [-] {3}	[22:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010001 BTC [-]	[22:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-] {2}	[22:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.0001978 = 0.1978 BTC [+]	[22:46]
Mats_cd03	yes	[22:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 6010 @ 0.00019833 = 1.192 BTC [+] {3}	[22:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04998438 = 0.5998 BTC [+] {2}	[22:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.4 BTC [+] {2}	[22:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.8 BTC [+] {2}	[22:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.6 BTC [+]	[22:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00096878 = 2.422 BTC [-]	[22:57]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 15 @ 0.0075 = 0.1125 BTC [+]	[22:58]
jurov	Mats_cd03: so why did you think s.mpoe is going to stop paying divs?	[22:58]
Mats_cd03	i read something in here suggesting that was the case	[23:00]
jurov	that would be properly announced on trilema and amply discussed	[23:06]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3807 @ 0.0000792 = 0.3015 BTC [-]	[23:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.01160999 = 0.1277 BTC [-] {2}	[23:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 76 @ 0.00146083 = 0.111 BTC [-] {2}	[23:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]	[23:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0499844 = 0.2499 BTC [+]	[23:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1330 @ 0.00019998 = 0.266 BTC [+] {2}	[23:58]
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