Forum logs for 03 May 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208 [00:00]
ozbot Loper OS » “The Internet of the Future” [00:00]
asciilifeform ^ where we're going [00:00]
asciilifeform after the fud-artists are done [00:00]
Duffer1 neutralistas lmao [00:00]
* zoinky has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [00:01]
* zoinky (~Adium@unaffiliated/zoinky) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:04]
asciilifeform that turd includes at least one outright lie [00:05]
asciilifeform amazon's 3g gadgets access the standard net, for no extra cost [00:05]
asciilifeform just, very slowly. [00:05]
asciilifeform the way i understand it, aol, compuserve, et al. died a very deserved market death [00:07]
asciilifeform but now the 'walled garden' idiots want to replay the match [00:07]
asciilifeform with captive audiences [00:07]
asciilifeform because these are the only kind where the shit might fly [00:08]
* zoinky has quit (Client Quit) [00:09]
asciilifeform living in usa, i admit i'm rather surprised that it is 2014 and i'm not yet forced to pay $500/mo to get something other than ArsebookNet [00:09]
asciilifeform arsenet is coming, because the average luser doesn't really insist on being able to open an arbitrary tcp connection from wherever to wherever [00:11]
asciilifeform so long as arsebook, skype, etc. work [00:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0314991 = 0.126 BTC [-] [00:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.03349229 = 0.134 BTC [-] {2} [00:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3885 BTC [-] [00:11]
BingoBoingo If the choice were between arsenet and Dial-up, I'd probably choose dial up [00:13]
asciilifeform hell, 300 baud [00:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 999 @ 0.00019191 = 0.1917 BTC [-] [00:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.03300008 = 0.396 BTC [-] {2} [00:13]
asciilifeform paradoxically, a return of the era when you must beg/borrow/steal genuine net access from employers, universities - could actually end 'eternal september.' [00:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0325099 = 0.2601 BTC [-] [00:14]
* bitcoinh_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:14]
asciilifeform and wonders like fidonet will return from the grave. [00:15]
* bitcoinhtx (~bitcoinht@107-211-136-240.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [+] [00:15]
asciilifeform it won't be as easy as the first time, though [00:15]
asciilifeform over here, many houses had their land line copper (illegally) torn out [00:15]
asciilifeform by the fiber folks [00:15]
BingoBoingo I once produced a version of a web site I ran as a gopher site, in 2011, Library school project [00:16]
MarieLynn I miss FidoNet :) [00:16]
MarieLynn Went to a FidoNet Con last year :) [00:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.00659993 = 0.132 BTC [+] {3} [00:16]
asciilifeform in usa, the copper lines are regulated under the terms of the at&t divestiture [00:16]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/ZtPkUV4.jpg [00:16]
asciilifeform and the local carries have destroyed as many of them as they could get away with [00:17]
BingoBoingo http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/05/02/2015227/nasty-security-flaw-in-oauth-openid [00:18]
ozbot Nasty Security Flaw In OAuth, OpenID - Slashdot [00:18]
pankkake another one?! [00:18]
asciilifeform lol [00:18]
asciilifeform for example - moving into new house, i discovered a dangling stub where the old 'bell atlantic' copper ought to be. [00:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2629 @ 0.00014366 = 0.3777 BTC [-] {5} [00:19]
asciilifeform gone from the house, and from the pole. [00:19]
* bitcoinhtx has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [00:20]
* los_pantalones has quit () [00:20]
asciilifeform nobody gives a damn, at present, because we all love fiber [00:20]
asciilifeform but it could convert to ArseNet overnight. [00:20]
BingoBoingo Shame encryption on Amateur radio frequencies is a crime. [00:21]
BingoBoingo 2 meter band could make for some nice mesh networks [00:21]
asciilifeform copper is expensive - not merely the metal, but maintenance - keeping water out of the cable ducts, etc. the telcos would hurry to be rid of it even the removal did not speed the arrival of arsenet. [00:22]
pankkake and keeping the romanians from stealing it [00:22]
asciilifeform in a traditional telco plant, there are giant air dryers, blowing into ducts, to keep positive pressure [00:22]
asciilifeform my understanding is that these, at least where i live, and in a number of other places, have given out - and never replaced [00:23]
asciilifeform instead, there are tanks of co2 chained to poles here and there [00:23]
asciilifeform the one on my street emptied out a few years ago [00:23]
asciilifeform never once replaced. [00:23]
asciilifeform eventually, the one or two remaining copper subscribers will complain. and perhaps it will be re-filled. or not. [00:24]
BingoBoingo All of the good technologies come with expiration dates. [00:26]
* cazalla has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [00:26]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: Shame encryption on Amateur radio frequencies is a crime << eventually, u.s. folks who want genuine net will need to commit this - or some other - crime. [00:26]
asciilifeform and, given that 'one may as well hang for a sheep as a lamb,' why stick to only 2m. [00:27]
* bitcoinpete has quit (Quit: bitcoinpete) [00:27]
asciilifeform plenty of quiet spectrum, there for the taking, esp. if one only needs a few km of range. [00:27]
BingoBoingo Very good point. I supposed 2m because it is just so common. [00:28]
* assbot gives voice to joecool [00:29]
ThickAsThieves lordy, the forum and bitpay wanna move the bitcoin decimal to two places [00:29]
asciilifeform the correct way to do 'pirate radio' net is - frequency hopping 'spread spectrum.' meet the other local node people in person, to agree on a key. [00:29]
BingoBoingo Fuck them. The decimal can move two spaces to the left [00:29]
ThickAsThieves how do they not see that an arbitrary change will only cause confusion and likely fail at being adopted [00:30]
* cazalla (cazalla@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe6e:94f) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:30]
asciilifeform folks who like to eat shit - can eat it. others will continue to eat food. [00:30]
joecool pankkake: you're thinking georgians, they'll cut into anything remotely resembling a wire, source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/06/georgian-woman-cuts-web-access [00:30]
asciilifeform in usa, desperados are attaching trucks to hv cables and driving off. [00:31]
pankkake yeah, I know that story. copper stealing is a worldwide plague done by various people [00:32]
BingoBoingo Yeah. Optic net is also a possibility. Fiber without the fiber. [00:32]
pankkake and some don't even know how to spot copper and cut the fiber [00:32]
asciilifeform in a functioning empire, the penalty would be - sizzling in the electric chair. right there, in the bed of a specially-built police truck. [00:32]
asciilifeform but see mp's story of the last emperor. [00:32]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: optical line-of-sight would work well in places other than usa - ones where people still live in cities [00:33]
joecool lasernet [00:34]
asciilifeform (can easily think of creative penalties for buyers of stolen copper. say, hanging with same stolen cable. on a hv mast.) [00:34]
joecool my state had a unique copper problem [00:35]
asciilifeform sorta like how, in old scotland, they had a contraption very similar to the later guillotine - 'scottish gibbet' - where a cattle or horse thief would find the animal he stole attached to a rope, which pulls out the peg, blade falls. [00:35]
joecool we kept getting floods so people threw out things like refrigerators (with coils) [00:35]
joecool the municipalities though would sell scrap licenses for these discarded items and arrest anyone who picked it up without a permit [00:36]
asciilifeform hard to think of how else the crown could distinguish between legit and thieving metal recyclers. [00:37]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: the adoption argument is that it seems "more like a currency" because we're used to 2 decimal places, and most account software can't work with more than 2 anyway [00:37]
asciilifeform refrigerators, unlike cars, don't come with legal titles [00:38]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: Have the accounting software work satoshis then. [00:38]
asciilifeform and once it is melted down - metal is metal [00:38]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: well, yes, that's exactly what's been suggested [00:38]
fluffypony and ignored [00:38]
joecool fluffypony: well could adopt the tonal system and TBC like Luke-Jr wanted :P [00:38]
* mike_c has quit () [00:39]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: True. Picking the radio bands over US style distances presents challenges though. [00:39]
* kermit has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:39]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: real time tcp/ip, over 1000s of km, for millions of people - is a luxury. [00:39]
asciilifeform a usenet-style system, where messages might resort to travelling in a truck full of disk, seems inevitable in a scenario like this. [00:40]
bounce http://ronja.twibright.com/ [00:40]
* kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:40]
ozbot Home [00:40]
BingoBoingo Of course. Stationwagon net is always an option. [00:40]
joecool 1000's of km? gonna need relays or a signal that can bounce [00:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07254245 = 0.9431 BTC [-] {3} [00:41]
* bounce sets joecool on fire [00:41]
asciilifeform anything that transmits over 1000km is a fat target. [00:41]
bounce usenet? can start with resurrecting uucp (or fido) [00:41]
* jborkl (~jborkl@2602:30a:2c51:e730:9d19:44c0:55ba:36bb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:41]
* jborkl has quit (Changing host) [00:41]
* jborkl (~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0725104 = 0.7976 BTC [-] {3} [00:42]
* Namworld (~Namworld@modemcable041.115-177-173.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [00:42]
asciilifeform bounce: resurrecting fido << see the point earlier about the destroyed 'bell' copper in usa [00:42]
asciilifeform i, for one, have no copper phone line, and know no one who still does [00:42]
bounce there's some interesting digital modulations about. if I ever get around to a HAM licence I'd probably still dump crypted data on the wire along with a readable call sign [00:42]
* jborkl is now known as jborkl_ [00:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07237324 = 0.8685 BTC [-] {5} [00:43]
bounce who says fido depends on copper? [00:43]
* smidge_ has quit (Quit: sorry, but you've mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck...) [00:43]
asciilifeform bounce: the other hams will eagerly turn you in [00:43]
joecool lol yeah cannot do that :P [00:43]
bounce who's to know? I'm doing experiments with me mate [00:43]
bounce "yeah new modulation guv" [00:43]
asciilifeform bounce: it relies on some reasonably general-purpose channel, of whatever bandwidth [00:43]
BingoBoingo High Bandwidth http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-2006-Dodge-Magnum-SRT8-t30836#listing=84198839 [00:43]
BingoBoingo bounce: HAMs tend to be a territorial and snitchy bunch [00:44]
bounce one option might be to get a boating radio licence. they're already throwing packet over those frequencies for email-to-boat [00:44]
* assbot gives voice to jborkl_ [00:44]
asciilifeform in usa at least, 'hams' know that they live at the pleasure of the crown, various folks are always hungry for their spectrum pie [00:44]
asciilifeform so they eagerly rat out violators. [00:44]
* jborkl_ is now known as jborkl [00:44]
artifexd ThickAsThieves: Had it been done at the beginning 1mn satoshis to the bitcoin would have made more sense. That would have made 2.1 billion bitcoin in total and maybe that number would have made people register that 21 million was not an arbitrary number and making coins with more is just a fucking headache. [00:44]
bounce well, then forget about the licence and go entirely pirate with a spread-spectrum frequency-hopping whatever construct. [00:45]
asciilifeform bounce: suggested earlier. and, of course, by many other people, in the past. [00:45]
bounce or stick to linking up wifi nodes with dish antennae. that goes a while too. [00:45]
bounce the thing there is that you need ready access to hardware, or at least schematics simple enough for the hobbyist to cobble together. [00:46]
bounce doesn't have to be very efficient. ttl everything will do as long as it works. [00:46]
asciilifeform the point i wanted to make was that anything other than a very broad, military-style spread spectrum setup, with hop keys exchanged in person, is simply a beacon for the gasenwagen. [00:46]
joecool 20-30mi with 5GHZ line of sight is feasible, i used to live on a mountain and experimented with some pretty long links [00:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.47277687 = 2.3639 BTC [-] {5} [00:47]
joecool there's a site you can use to check what mountains are in the way [00:47]
asciilifeform good luck setting up a line-of-sight anything in u.s. suburbia. [00:47]
fluffypony joecool: lol [00:47]
joecool asciilifeform: need height [00:47]
fluffypony joecool: we should suggest TonalDogecoin [00:47]
bounce put up a mast? [00:47]
fluffypony see how it goes down [00:48]
joecool again, a mountain helps a lot [00:48]
asciilifeform put up a mast << might as well hoist a black flag on same mast. [00:48]
joecool i had a 30mi clear shot from my back deck of old house to an observation deck @ a state park [00:48]
mircea_popescu "let me tell you a story…" contradictor falls asleep, win by default << o lies and slander. my stories kick ass [00:48]
jborkl www.bcoinnews.com < see how well bitcoin investigations go [00:49]
asciilifeform i dare to invoke the 'parachute theorem,' and say that the time to build comm infrastructure out of the real (or imagined) control of the crown is now, and not when it becomes a dire necessity. [00:50]
mircea_popescu yeah, well the stigma did not create itself << stigma means, of course, a stain. [00:51]
bounce so get cracking. [00:51]
asciilifeform and to think that it is purely an 'american problem' - is a mistake. [00:51]
bounce ;;google mesh potato [00:51]
gribble Village Telco » Mesh Potato: ; Village Telco » Mesh Potato: ; Mesh Potatoes - Village Telco Store Village Telco Store: [00:51]
mircea_popescu maybe im simpleminded << buzz off. next you're going to claim you're psychopath too ?! [00:51]
asciilifeform if you're 'meshing' with consumer hardware, on fixed, documented frequencies - you're a target. [00:52]
bounce bunch of those would be a convenient start. though I really would prefer a nice high gain omni on top. [00:52]
* blackwhite has quit (Quit: blackwhite) [00:52]
asciilifeform if you're pumping out kWatts of whatever, wherever - you're a target. [00:52]
asciilifeform etc [00:52]
bounce it's a proven design. now move the radio to some neverland(, and see which military outfit shows up) [00:53]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you are mistaken in the following sense : i ruled, undisturbed, undisturbable, before the internet was invented. [00:53]
mircea_popescu should a government - any government - take things back to that level, it'd be to their detriment, not to mine. [00:53]
mircea_popescu the jury's still out on the topic of whether they can win 2014. the jury however is not out on whether they can win 1994. [00:53]
mircea_popescu that's soundly decided. [00:53]
BingoBoingo bounce you know a number of missile targeting systems seek RF emissions. [00:54]
asciilifeform seems like we're in for an eternal rematch of 1994 [00:54]
bounce once "TSHTF" enforcement agencies will become haphazard in their actions, so nicely spread out stashes would help a lot [00:54]
mircea_popescu i couldn't be better served. [00:54]
asciilifeform how many of us expected the key escrow crap to slip right in the second time? [00:54]
mircea_popescu what second time ? [00:55]
asciilifeform let's say '04, to make it nice & round. [00:55]
* bounce thinks the discussion is not constructive. anybody recall why the internet is structured like it is? because it can withstand damage and route around it. [00:55]
asciilifeform bounce: you're thinking of arpanet [00:55]
joecool asciilifeform: why not use existing infrastructure, figure out how to inject a signal into powerline [00:55]
mircea_popescu bounce used to. meanwhile shit like apple happened. [00:55]
asciilifeform joecool: ever tried this personally? [00:55]
asciilifeform goes great, until first transformer. [00:55]
bounce the goal isn't to cook up an invulnerable system. the goal is to cook up a resilient system. ten different systems working together would be even better. [00:56]
asciilifeform bounce: original design was to resist nukes, rather than a million squads of dutiful monkeys in vans [00:56]
joecool asciilifeform: yeah i knew that much, but could still use HV lines to go a distance, no? [00:57]
asciilifeform it would be interesting to study the design of 'Gladio' radio sets - made for stay-behind partizans in nato europe [00:57]
bounce shit, do fido or uucp over long-range bluetooth for all I care. with nodes hid in stones. [00:57]
asciilifeform some of these have popped up on surplus market. [00:57]
* assbot gives voice to cazalla [00:57]
mircea_popescu lol kako, bbbb still derping on ? [00:57]
BingoBoingo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q15X25 [00:57]
ozbot Q15X25 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [00:57]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu , proudly. [00:58]
joecool asciilifeform: the idea would be to mesh a town, and use HV lines to link to other towns [00:58]
joecool (in theory) [00:58]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/ [00:58]
ozbot These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog [00:58]
mircea_popescu related. [00:58]
kakobrekla thats not him [00:58]
mircea_popescu surf capital ? o yes it is. [00:58]
asciilifeform joecool: HV lines to link to other towns << works, until the king's men 'helpfully' install filters [00:58]
mircea_popescu "The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE’s assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been “under-banked.” I must note, however, there [00:59]
mircea_popescu is substantial political risk with this investment. We, as investors, do not know how the Cypriot government will act toward a new financial institution like this. This is especially true given the political turmoil occuring in Ukraine and the Crimea region." [00:59]
asciilifeform 'against transients caused by Klimate Change' [00:59]
mircea_popescu them. [00:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform how do these "king's men" communicate ? [00:59]
mircea_popescu how does the king prevent them from working for me ? [00:59]
asciilifeform lol - that's step 2 of the game. [01:00]
mircea_popescu you imagine this situation of perfect loyalty and imperfect communications. [01:00]
bounce what'd be the most widely available stuff that does ssb? I'd expect 27mc. which, since there's lots of crap going on there anyway, wouldn't be a bad band to use [01:00]
asciilifeform would be nice to see the transition to step 2 sooner, rather than later [01:00]
mircea_popescu such a thing is nonsensical, much like any scenario breaing thermodynamicsa. [01:00]
mircea_popescu but the transition happens in its own time for its own reasons, you see. [01:00]
mircea_popescu that's why it's cheap and effectual : we don't seduce women, we just deign to notice the ones that've seduced themselves already. [01:01]
jborkl you cant tell me they really referenced BTCjam on credit ratings? [01:01]
mircea_popescu jborkl i can and i do. [01:01]
kakobrekla ok so mircea_popescu , dr foreskin : http://mulhauser.net and bbbb idiots (2) https://sites.google.com/site/surfcapitalmgmt/asset-management [01:01]
kakobrekla different thing. [01:01]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla the article says x is worse than y. thus it's about x, not y. [01:01]
jborkl well, I guess people really refernced spongebobs bestie too [01:01]
jborkl sp [01:01]
jborkl Maybe Patricks Foreskin investment total return fund [01:02]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you imagine this situation of perfect loyalty and imperfect communications << point! the buggers are spotty even at using rsa. how do you say 'funkspiel' in english? [01:02]
kakobrekla ok i have no argument about that. [01:03]
mircea_popescu must be missing something.. << or you've just been touched by the gods for once. [01:03]
mircea_popescu !up tris [01:03]
assbot Voicing tris for 30 minutes. [01:03]
* assbot gives voice to tris [01:03]
asciilifeform funkspiel. радиоигра. english == ??? [01:03]
asciilifeform ;;google funkspiel [01:04]
gribble Funkspiel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Funkspiel Zwickau [NONG: Funkspiel] TeamSpeak - LIVE view ...: ; Werbevideo vom Funkspiel-Flughafen-München - YouTube: [01:04]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/opinion/egan-sports-the-most-progressive-force-in-america.html <<< lmao they say that as if it were somehow a good thing. lulzy shit. [01:04]
BingoBoingo http://www.cryptomuseum.com/spy/gladio/ [01:04]
ozbot Gladio [01:04]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: yes - them. [01:04]
mircea_popescu i think you must wreite it like GLADIO [01:04]
mircea_popescu i noticed that is how you must write everything about these things [01:05]
BingoBoingo Interesting hardware ascii [01:05]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if you study the other exhibits on that site, you will learn that even 1950s soviet 'spy radio' designers understood that one must send very rare messages, in the shortest possible bursts [01:06]
mircea_popescu Before that I was a tour guide across North America, I started at 18. And a nanny too :) << now how do you figure that being a tour guide and a nanny transitions to providing leadership services for the world's most important project ? [01:06]
* xdotcomm_ (~xdotcomme@bas1-montreal51-845445854.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:06]
bounce http://www.cryptomuseum.com/spy/gladio/ [01:06]
ozbot Gladio [01:06]
asciilifeform russian sets of that period came with hole punchers (similar to the ubiquitous hand-cranked office label printers) [01:06]
kakobrekla i already gave her instructions [01:06]
jborkl You get to listen to a bunch of titybabies cry all day? [01:06]
asciilifeform punch holes in ordinary 35mm film, feed into machine later [01:06]
asciilifeform this was mainly from a shortage of master 'morsemen' [01:07]
mircea_popescu But if the neutralistas got their way, people in developing countries wouldn’t have better Internet access; many of them would have nothing" << omfg who the shit cares about the poor, what sort of braindamaged argument is this. [01:07]
mircea_popescu eat the motherfucking poor. [01:07]
bounce hah, double post. n'mind then. [01:07]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla yeah im like behind [01:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: they include 'for the good of the poor' in any official proclamation now. as in 'the good of the proletariat' and whatnot. [01:08]
bounce it'd be useful to have a bursting service on your radio [01:08]
mircea_popescu and i can't catch up because you're all into explody talkmode [01:08]
kakobrekla wait lemme +m [01:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform pretty much exactly. which is why a lot more "fuck the poor, they're less than dirt" needs to be stated explicitly. [01:08]
mircea_popescu otherwise the general fucktarded populace may end up confused, cause they're simple signal processors. [01:08]
asciilifeform lol [01:09]
mircea_popescu they keep hearing "coca cola is a drink" they end up thinking it's a drink. [01:09]
mircea_popescu retarded shit like that. [01:09]
asciilifeform eat recycled food! [01:09]
asciilifeform it's good for the environment - and ok fer you! [01:09]
bounce soylent brown [01:10]
* jborkl has quit (Quit: jborkl) [01:10]
mircea_popescu living in usa, i admit i'm rather surprised that it is 2014 and i'm not yet forced to pay $500/mo to get something other than ArsebookNet << i think they're running way behind schedule. [01:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform> and wonders like fidonet will return from the grave. << where do you think you're now ? [01:11]
* xdotcomm_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [01:11]
mircea_popescu fluffypony lmao "chinese rules". i dunno dood, afaik the chinese are the most druggy whoring of the whole lot. [01:12]
fluffypony lol [01:12]
bounce that oauth hole isn't really fixable, is it? [01:13]
* SuchWow (~SuchWow@unaffiliated/suchwow) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:14]
mircea_popescu lordy, the forum and bitpay wanna move the bitcoin decimal to two places << enemies of the people. [01:14]
fluffypony bounce: not without whitelists [01:15]
mircea_popescu bounce indeed. [01:15]
mircea_popescu !up SuchWow [01:15]
assbot Voicing SuchWow for 30 minutes. [01:15]
* assbot gives voice to SuchWow [01:15]
mircea_popescu fucking broken by design "security" [01:15]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/462354080372097024 [01:15]
ozbot Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: http://t.co/VLyAis0h7B I've ... [01:15]
bounce superfluous apostrophe is superfluous [01:16]
mircea_popescu the municipalities though would sell scrap licenses for these discarded items and arrest anyone who picked it up without a permit << fucking outrageous. selling licenses on MY trash ? heh. [01:16]
fluffypony SuchWow: unusual seeing you here [01:17]
joecool mircea_popescu: yeah, the same logic applies on recyclables [01:17]
SuchWow Thanks, first I've heard of the chan :) [01:18]
mircea_popescu and ignored << just because some inconsequential idiots a la bitpay & the forum are herping away dun mean anything's been ignored. you can't ignore the judge, or the bullet. [01:18]
* assbot gives voice to Namworld [01:18]
Namworld Move decimals to two places? You mean as in making 1 BTC = 100 satoshi? [01:18]
fluffypony Namworld: yes [01:19]
fluffypony how are they feeding values in to an accounting system anyway? [01:19]
fluffypony by hand? [01:19]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo> bounce: HAMs tend to be a territorial and snitchy bunch << only because no real political pressure has been applied to them yet, because nobody gave a shit. normally the sewer rats are also a snitchy, territorial bunch. nevertheless, nobody in the lower east side would talk to a cop, pre ww2. [01:19]
fluffypony coz if it's programmatic they should be working in satoshis anyway [01:20]
mircea_popescu they prolly don't know about this, or anything else. [01:20]
Namworld What? That's retarded. We'd end up with 2000 BTC to the dollar and a shitload of BTC. Plus that wouldn't change anything at all, actually. [01:20]
mircea_popescu heck, they probably have bitcoin defined as a real. [01:20]
mircea_popescu Namworld they imagine it'd make more noobs buy, and so make their worthless holdings worth somerthing. [01:20]
mircea_popescu because they imagine bitcoin is a consumer affair [01:21]
mircea_popescu because they're braindamaged. [01:21]
mircea_popescu fluffypony who's he ? [01:21]
Namworld Plus you know a few places would scam people "We only owe you X BTC" and the generic moron would go "I knew it, BTC under 1 dollar by the end of the year." [01:21]
fluffypony who's he who? [01:21]
Namworld Plus much derping around. [01:21]
* KRS1 has quit () [01:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform> good luck setting up a line-of-sight anything in u.s. suburbia. << why ? [01:22]
mircea_popescu fluffypony the SuchWow guy. [01:23]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: oh, he's an op in #dogecoin [01:23]
SuchWow I hang out in a large number of bitcoin and dogecoin related chans [01:23]
mircea_popescu Namworld i can see that, yeah. there's nothing like "confusion" when the "confused" stands to make a buck from it. [01:24]
mircea_popescu ic. [01:24]
SuchWow Looking through your websites now, very impressive info. [01:24]
mircea_popescu http://www.bcoinnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/wtf1.gif this jborkl stuff is pretty good lol [01:25]
Namworld Go in suburbia, stand any random spot, look around. Line of sight to plenty of solid points will be found. Get creative. (Are we still talking about creating a comm mesh?) [01:25]
mircea_popescu one of the many threads but yes. [01:26]
mircea_popescu you can have flying objects in suburbia, you can definitely have stuff hid inside tree tops, etc. [01:26]
mircea_popescu so trendon shavers managed to funel ~70k through his paypal account. to which paypal gave no trouble at all. why aren't they co-defendants in his case ? [01:26]
mircea_popescu because his lawyer is fucktarded that's why. [01:27]
* mjr_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [01:27]
mircea_popescu 11k for gas and groceries. and then they claim no inflation eh ? [01:27]
mircea_popescu "proceeds on btc sold : 600k. trading losses, 150k. net 450k" heh. [01:28]
mircea_popescu he's almost as bad as the forum average, 25% loss over a year. [01:29]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: treetops, flying machines parked on office roofs, charging solar, etc. - sure. line of sight to a friendly window, city-style - not likely. [01:29]
mircea_popescu well that all depends, i guess. what's to keep you from cutting a square foot window in the tree ? [01:30]
mircea_popescu put a glass panel in your fence ? [01:30]
asciilifeform what's to keep the stoolies from using their eyes? [01:30]
mircea_popescu how many stoolies, how many eyes and who;'s going to derp on your land ? [01:30]
mircea_popescu maybe they get shot. [01:31]
mircea_popescu accidents happen, and stoolies are in all times and places the first to also have problems. [01:31]
asciilifeform since we're at the 'pack parachute' stage, nobody's shooting stoolies around here yet. [01:31]
mircea_popescu that's the only reason, too. [01:31]
mircea_popescu as i said a few times before, the other party can move it up to getting shot any time it feels ready [01:31]
mircea_popescu talk to its fambly, say goodbies, come to the field. [01:32]
bounce drones with mesh potatoes and solar panels for autonomy. some proximity sensors and such. one roof gets too hot for comfort, move to the next. [01:32]
bounce what's the state of thin foil solar panels anyway? [01:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform or to put it in plainer terms : it is very true one wants to invent parachute before, rather than after being thrown from the plane. [01:32]
mircea_popescu this point applies to the government. [01:32]
mircea_popescu i am quite curious to hear what their parachute design will look like. [01:33]
asciilifeform everybody's seen the photos of fleets of gasenwagen, brand new [01:33]
mircea_popescu stoolies being what they are, i'll prolly hear about it before they actually accept it. [01:33]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/georg-ritter-von-flondor-and-what-his-unhappy-life-can-teach-us/ [01:33]
ozbot Georg Ritter von Flondor, and what his unhappy life can teach us pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Pope [01:33]
mircea_popescu time to rehash the sad story of von flondor. [01:33]
* dR3 has quit (Quit: Gotta go feed the yak & reinforce the igloo.) [01:33]
* assbot removes voice from tris [01:33]
kakobrekla this is what tat was talking about ? [01:36]
kakobrekla http://newsbtc.com/2014/05/02/bitpay-wants-display-bitcoin-prices-bits/ [01:36]
* bitcoinpete (~bitcoinpe@unaffiliated/bitcoinpete) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:41]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla hey, why isn't enky ever say anything ? [01:41]
fluffypony kakobrekla: yes [01:42]
MarieLynn <+mircea_popescu> what is the world's most important project ? (re: 18:06) [01:42]
kakobrekla i dunno, he speaks just not much here. [01:43]
kakobrekla OMG how dare you MarieLynn ! [01:43]
* Sahtor has quit (Quit: Sahtor) [01:43]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/ [01:43]
mircea_popescu the great days when diff was like... 300mn. [01:44]
mircea_popescu .d [01:44]
ozbot 8.001 billion | Next Diff in 1539 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.1417% in 9d 14h 27m 34s [01:44]
thestringpuller 4.2.1 [01:45]
mircea_popescu back when benkay was liek... correcting my math. how's this benkay baby! six months fixed my broked math. [01:45]
thestringpuller ;;calc 2*3 [01:45]
gribble 6 [01:45]
thestringpuller lol [01:46]
* assbot removes voice from SuchWow [01:46]
asciilifeform this decimal point crap is a mega-lol. they can't inflate, so... let's move decimal. like in a banana republic, or '90s russia. [01:46]
mircea_popescu exactly. [01:46]
asciilifeform cargo cult, too. fat lot of good it will do for the idiots. [01:46]
mircea_popescu there's more to it asciilifeform. suppose you visit this university, which wants you to take it seriously. in it, the head of nuclear physics is hard at work making an inventory of... his bunions. [01:47]
mircea_popescu what's that indicate to you ? i mean sure, great men can be eccentric. [01:47]
mircea_popescu nevertheless... [01:47]
asciilifeform u.s. academia, in once sentence. [01:47]
MarieLynn interesting post :) [01:47]
mircea_popescu maybe the bunion accountant has no business in physics, nuclear or otherwise, and the thing ain't an university in any sense. [01:47]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn so, that. the one thing that does more than everything else all humans ever did in the entire history of life on earth. [01:48]
* xdotcomm_ (~xdotcomme@24.114.103.221) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:48]
MarieLynn My friend is looking for a Rails dev @ 120-180K for his kinky site... I wish I was a Rails dev all of a sudden :) [01:48]
mircea_popescu for all your poetry and wit couldn't buy you half a hash. [01:48]
mircea_popescu davout was a rails dev if memory serves :D [01:48]
pankkake it's easy to be a Ruby dev. you just need a macbook and a fedora [01:48]
asciilifeform MarieLynn: dev @ 120-180K << lemme guess, california. [01:49]
MarieLynn <+mircea_popescu> I will quote you on this when I talk about bitcoin [01:49]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell cgcardona http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#656509 [01:49]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:49]
MarieLynn Nope The position is anywhere. [01:49]
* joecool has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:49]
MarieLynn Nice opportunity to arbitrage your skills when you live in a super cheap place! [01:50]
* saulimus has quit (Quit: saulimus) [01:50]
asciilifeform pankkake: you just need a macbook and a fedora << and a leaden stomach [01:50]
mircea_popescu uh. what do you think arbitrage means ? [01:50]
asciilifeform note that, e.g. oil rig men get $200K+ [01:51]
pankkake why? because of starbucks coffees? [01:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not for doing stuff on reddit tho [01:51]
MarieLynn You keep living in a cheap place a reap the benefits of working in a place where they pay more for talent. [01:51]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn mno. that's getting a good remote job. [01:51]
pankkake maybe I should have left for an oil rig [01:52]
asciilifeform dealing in redditronics ought to earn a hazard pay, like soviet workers in the far north [01:52]
asciilifeform in fact... it sorta does. [01:52]
mircea_popescu pankkake i hear you gotta be a fag to man an oil rig. [01:52]
pankkake so it's like an union thing [01:53]
asciilifeform gotta be a fag to man an oil rig << it's not a nuke sub. they rotate the crew occasionally. [01:53]
* joecool (~joecool@no-sources/joecool) has joined #bitcoin-assets [01:53]
MarieLynn My other friend in Saskatchewan says construction workers are impossible to find because the mines pay too high :) [01:53]
asciilifeform i'm still at a loss as to why gigantic server farms aren't built, in, say, alaska [01:54]
fluffypony hah hah [01:54]
fluffypony "Tradefortress has no room to bash anyone else besides Karpeles, Pirate, or maybe Mr. NEOBEE, Danny Brewster. Everyone else, small-time scammers included, would be better company at this point." [01:54]
asciilifeform or the very same miners. [01:54]
MarieLynn My boyfriend beats people up for a living but there are few people in Montreal who are tough enough for his classes. [01:54]
asciilifeform 'yeah we're short on cabling, the men delivering had to shoot their dogs' [01:55]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn arbitrage is the buying and selling of the same one asset (either natural or synthetic) in different markets that are divergent. so in order to arbitrage skills, you'd have to first buy them. skills aren't commodities however, and so this "arbitrage your skills" is just hipster talk. [01:55]
MarieLynn I shall never use it again in your presence then [01:55]
mircea_popescu lol ty. [01:55]
mircea_popescu tbh i was expecting something more along the lines of "wtf is a synthetic" [01:56]
asciilifeform you can get machine racks in shipping containers. drop them straight on the snow, connect to power plant, put a bit of concertina wire around. [01:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so your dc sinks ten feet each summer ? [01:56]
asciilifeform i bet they float just fine. [01:56]
mircea_popescu how do you find them again if they float ? [01:57]
asciilifeform radio? [01:57]
mircea_popescu ;;google otters holding hands. [01:57]
gribble Otters holding hands - YouTube: ; Otterly adorable: Dozy otters hold hands while taking a nap so they ...: ; Sea otter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [01:57]
asciilifeform or that. [01:57]
bounce the offshoring brokers are in a sense arbitraging skills [01:57]
asciilifeform anchor. [01:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, i know the daughter of the guy that designed fucking buildings there. it's insanely expensive, you have to anchor i nthe permafrost. [01:57]
benkay who's this MarieLynn ? [01:57]
mircea_popescu benkay see teh log, she actually properly introduced herself. [01:57]
pankkake benkay: use the WoT, m8 [01:57]
asciilifeform ammonal is expensive now? [01:57]
benkay ;;gettrust MarieLynn [01:58]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask MarieLynn!4a74bfc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.116.191.194. Trust relationship from user benkay to user MarieLynn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=MarieLynn | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=MarieLynn | Rated since: Fri May 2 14:21:45 2014 [01:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform listen, for your average "rich american" 10 cubic meters of cement are expensive. [01:58]
asciilifeform lol [01:58]
mircea_popescu don't go telling me about how a 200 meter long pike is nothing. [01:58]
asciilifeform average american will not be hosting in the klondike, agreed. [01:58]
mircea_popescu bounce yeah, something like that, perhaps. [01:59]
asciilifeform almost certainly good ROI though if you factor cooling. [02:00]
* assbot gives voice to joecool [02:00]
mircea_popescu up until some derps come to confiscate your cattle [02:00]
asciilifeform lol [02:00]
mircea_popescu because your cooling is endangering the spotted ice shrimp [02:00]
asciilifeform let them confiscate hot reactor. [02:00]
benkay lol MarieLynn your website has an obama quote? is that...are you...what even ams, yo [02:01]
mircea_popescu you're going to erect an atmosphere-cooled, unauthorised nuclear reactor in alaska ? [02:01]
mircea_popescu and they say i'm wild. [02:01]
mircea_popescu benkay she's a canadian, she's entitled to vote for obama. [02:01]
asciilifeform i bet they've got one in norilsk as we speak. [02:02]
mircea_popescu nah. they'd have blown it by now. [02:02]
mircea_popescu not even actual experts can run the shit russians make. [02:02]
mircea_popescu it's like java on rails for nuclear physicists. [02:03]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/6IwIdeZ.png [02:03]
MarieLynn Benkay I put it there for fun, I just met him casually about 22 years ago with his mom :) [02:03]
asciilifeform herr orlov had a piece, where he 'what if concert pianos sometimes exploded' [02:03]
asciilifeform 'how many serious pianists left' [02:03]
MarieLynn I still haven't asked the museum archivist to tak out the note he wrote in the guestbook. Barrie! [02:03]
benkay "java on rails for nuclear physicists" << lulzlozlozwlw [02:03]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn how;'s the guy';s mom like ? [02:05]
mircea_popescu the red us press was making her sound like a monster recently. [02:05]
MarieLynn She seemed very aloof. She was busy looking at this http://www.seminairedequebec.org/photos/Maquette-du-site-du-Seminaire-au-Musee-de-l-Amerique-francaise_gp267438.html [02:06]
MarieLynn Obama is a surprising person. Freakishly thin. Very 'rememberable' [02:06]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete "non-delfationary " is what ? [02:07]
benkay MarieLynn: what brought you in here? [02:09]
mircea_popescu "Berkshire quarterly profit hurt by weather, insurance" [02:09]
mircea_popescu mwahahaha suffer bitch. [02:09]
MarieLynn I was walking on this steet called Twitter and BitcoinPete picked me up! [02:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00096627 = 16.3783 BTC [-] {2} [02:10]
bounce easy street, no [02:10]
MarieLynn Usually when I participate in these things I wind up wioth an annoying stalker so I haven't been in IRC for over a decade. [02:11]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/T7sPGDX.jpg [02:11]
* assbot gives voice to FabianB [02:11]
fluffypony uh I know MarieLynn, gribble stalks me all the time [02:11]
FabianB MarieLynn: your red wordpress emergency button is leading to "No Results Found" [02:11]
fluffypony gribble: stalker. [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31472 @ 0.00096538 = 30.3824 BTC [-] {2} [02:11]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: Amazing how that actually fits history [02:11]
MarieLynn Damn PasswordBox always changing my fields! Thanks for the heads up. [02:11]
artifexd it's like java on rails for nuclear physicists. << lol & bashed [02:12]
Namworld Trendon was such a retard... "Herp derp, I'm going to run a ponzi scheme and just use spend everything directly on all my personal accounts." [02:12]
mircea_popescu ^ [02:12]
Namworld and sold 85000 BTC for like 2 bucks each after trading losses... [02:12]
mircea_popescu btw, http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/05/01/the_military_s_top_spy_will_be_a_woman [02:12]
Namworld Looks like most was returned to "investors" [02:12]
mircea_popescu that chick's actually smart, too. [02:13]
Namworld Wow, so much work and trouble for just 165k USD [02:13]
fluffypony Namworld: yeah I was expecting more [02:13]
Namworld I never saw those numbers... this is absurd. [02:14]
* daybyter has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:14]
fluffypony but he did have the good fortune of many back rubs [02:15]
* xdotcomm_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:15]
* xdotcomm_ (~xdotcomme@24.114.103.221) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:16]
fluffypony csshih: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-triatholight-a-300-hour-flashlight-that-seems-too-84489515654.html <- thoughts? [02:16]
* assbot gives voice to csshih [02:18]
csshih fluffypony, really [02:18]
csshih holy shit 32 led bulbs with a massive 20,000 mcd?! [02:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00096474 = 13.7958 BTC [-] {2} [02:18]
bounce you can get whatwasit 100 hours out of a single aa... but it won't be much light. [02:19]
csshih yeah it's a boatload of advertising bullshit [02:19]
csshih OURS HAS MORE LEDS IT"S BETTER [02:19]
mircea_popescu add some blades. [02:19]
fluffypony bounce: absolutely - on my ZebraLight SC51s I can do 4 days at ~3 lumens [02:20]
fluffypony csshih: I thought you'd enjoy it :) [02:20]
* xdotcomm_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:20]
csshih fluffypony, check out the zebraligh sc52 [02:20]
fluffypony csshih: I know - it's time for an upgrade [02:20]
csshih it can do 3 months.. grated at 0.01 lumens LOL [02:20]
csshih but OMG 2000 hours [02:20]
fluffypony csshih: I'm sure I mentioned to you the other day 1 of my SC51s has grown legs, gah [02:20]
bounce or the lri proton pro, or a host of other high-end flashlights [02:20]
csshih haha [02:21]
csshih oops [02:21]
csshih yeah the lri is nice, but it's dated [02:21]
bounce can't get'em here [02:21]
MarieLynn LEDs hurt my eyes... Can't... [02:22]
bounce all I have is a photon II, came as a giveaway. guy had a sack full of'em, when in yurp they cost 20 euro a piece. [02:22]
fluffypony bounce: http://www.illuminationsupply.com [02:22]
csshih yikes [02:22]
csshih oh yeah that's my shop, thanks fluffypony [02:22]
fluffypony bounce: you should pester csshih for a coupon code :-P [02:22]
bounce still a continent away [02:23]
fluffypony they do international shipping, yo [02:23]
csshih ya [02:23]
fluffypony on the Photon topic tho [02:23]
fluffypony the ReX was an amazing piece of kit [02:23]
assbot [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 500 @ 0.00021725 = 0.1086 BTC [+] [02:23]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [02:23]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmo3q9yCEAA-LtT.jpg [02:23]
fluffypony so glad I still have mine [02:23]
mircea_popescu check out the drop. [02:23]
fluffypony with solar and USB chargers [02:24]
* assbot gives voice to dignork [02:24]
bounce dramatic. what's dropping? [02:24]
fluffypony just a pity that you have to strip it and waterproof it yourself [02:24]
csshih what am I looking at [02:24]
MarieLynn yeah writing too small [02:24]
fluffypony bounce: at the top left you can see it says "Misutyusri QU530YT -RR" [02:25]
fluffypony duh. [02:25]
dignork BingoBoingo: you asked for openbsd build instructions for bitcoin 7.x: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1a8deaffc95d102a2dbc [02:25]
bounce I'd not've made that out hadn't you told [02:25]
thestringpuller MarieLynn: New Year.s Resolution = Use AirBnB. a lot! << @_@ coincidentally I just had the worst rental experience of my life with them [02:26]
bounce sudoitis on openbsd. phail. [02:26]
thestringpuller if the owners where in WoT i would be neg rating them right now [02:26]
fluffypony ;;google Misutyusri QU530YT -RR [02:26]
bounce curl? CURL? [02:26]
gribble No matches found. [02:26]
fluffypony lawl [02:26]
dignork bounce: curl vs. wget? [02:26]
mircea_popescu bounce t yields. [02:27]
fluffypony openbsd doesn't come with wget preloaded [02:27]
MarieLynn What happened <+thestringpuller> [02:27]
bounce at least freebsd has "fetch" in base, dunno what openbsd does there [02:27]
thestringpuller hmm that didn't highlight for me [02:27]
MarieLynn I suck at IRC, educate me :) [02:27]
* bitcoinpete has quit (Quit: bitcoinpete) [02:27]
thestringpuller ;;google site:trilema.com lets have fun with paul graham [02:27]
gribble Let's have fun with Paul Graham pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Decembrie 2012 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Fata morgana II, or don't you just hate it when you come up with an ...: [02:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07444265 = 0.1489 BTC [+] [02:27]
BingoBoingo dignork: well, I made the offer to some kid, but post or pm address [02:28]
fluffypony bed time noa, cheers [02:28]
thestringpuller http://trilema.com/2012/lets-have-fun-with-paul-graham/#comment-99322 << MarieLynn [02:28]
MarieLynn Good night Fluffy! [02:28]
BingoBoingo ;;rate dignork 1 found an opportunity to make a useful thing [02:28]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dignork has been recorded. [02:28]
bounce doesn't openbsd have a port for bitcoind, by the by? [02:29]
mircea_popescu ok sorry for the abstruse earlier image. it's the yield of us treasury bonds, 30 years, traded in japan [02:29]
bounce right. why'd that drop all of a sudden? start of the avalanche? [02:30]
mircea_popescu stocks are also eating the gains. [02:30]
BingoBoingo bounce some pieces of software you want to build from source. [02:30]
MarieLynn <+thestringpuller> That sucks. My last AirBnB in Toronto had a kleptomaniac cat... Other than that, good experiences so far. [02:31]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn thestringpuller i think there may be a strong difference based on location. airbnb may work a lot better outside of the us than inside. [02:31]
bounce what's with the wholesale quoting? o_O? [02:31]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmp51XUCIAEc8KW.jpg:large << warren buffett now associating with... wait for it... with ginsu knives. [02:32]
* xdotcomm_ (~xdotcomme@24.114.103.221) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:32]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: How about a Yankees game? [02:32]
bounce BingoBoingo: even then ports is the right place to store the compilation instructions [02:32]
mircea_popescu if he starts doing jay leno and roger/cathylee i'll weep [02:32]
* Skirmant has quit (Quit: (。-ω-) zzz..) [02:32]
* xdotcomm_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:32]
bounce that is more or less why the thing exists [02:32]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Maybe? [02:33]
* xdotcomm_ (~xdotcomme@24.114.103.221) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:33]
MarieLynn I look at AirBnB in Moscow and St-Petersburg and the places in St-P. are palacial and the stuff in Moscow is dinky... Wonder what it will be like. [02:33]
mircea_popescu im pretty sure it's palatial. [02:34]
* xdotcomm_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:34]
BingoBoingo bounce: Sure, but sometimes you gotta be able to reproduce something in a different way. It may not be the most right way. [02:34]
* xdotcom__ (~xdotcomme@24.114.103.221) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:34]
bounce well, if there isn't a port then this is as good a point as any to cook one up [02:35]
* mike_c (~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:36]
MarieLynn Okay, I only want palatable :P [02:36]
bounce heh, tritium glow fobs. apparently they're made somewhere near here but you can't buy'em. can buy'em in the uk but only if you live there due to transport regulations and shit [02:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00096812 = 0.5809 BTC [+] [02:36]
mircea_popescu get a load of this fucktard : [02:37]
mircea_popescu Noah Rothman Hungary, first member of the Warsaw Pact to slough off the bonds of communism, most resistant to Russ sanctions pic.twitter.com/L9B0sdPhzx [02:37]
mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu @NoahCRothman O look, Romania not included. Because everyone else EXCEPT Romania had troops in Odessa, amirite ? #irrelevantidiocy [02:37]
mircea_popescu Noah Rothman @Mircea_Popescu not sure what you're getting at. Finland not included either. Are you suggesting Romanian operatives active in Ukr? [02:37]
* assbot gives voice to mike_c [02:37]
mircea_popescu so... he doesn't understand what i'm getting at. because FINLAND was also omitted. [02:37]
bounce commie bonds? what's the yield on that? [02:37]
mircea_popescu o, what relevancy could omitting all the people against have on an article discussing "the only people against" ? [02:37]
mircea_popescu bounce syphilis. [02:37]
bounce you wish. [02:38]
bounce could perchance do an ideology market thingy [02:38]
bounce (biggest yield: irony) [02:39]
mircea_popescu unintentional irony crits [02:41]
mircea_popescu > 9k. [02:41]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoinpete i'm told by my obviously bored intel that in point of fact 1,045 yo made some chick "the oldest living protoss" [02:42]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:42]
* xdotcom__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:42]
* xdotcomm_ (~xdotcomme@24.114.103.221) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47524 @ 0.00096422 = 45.8236 BTC [-] {3} [02:48]
* xdotcomm_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [02:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17810 @ 0.00096359 = 17.1615 BTC [-] {2} [02:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07439009 = 0.5951 BTC [-] [02:49]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: come on everyone loves a yankee's game [02:50]
* BigBitz (~BigBitz@dab.stonabox.me) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:50]
* BigBitz has quit (Changing host) [02:50]
* BigBitz (~BigBitz@unaffiliated/bigbitz) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:50]
* BigBitz has quit (Excess Flood) [02:50]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Well, I think they are actually coming out here this year, some time. I dunno when though. [02:50]
* Guest70293 (~BigBitz@dab.stonabox.me) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:51]
thestringpuller where u @ [02:51]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: St Louis-ish [02:52]
* Guest70293 has quit (Changing host) [02:52]
* Guest70293 (~BigBitz@unaffiliated/bigbitz) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:52]
thestringpuller i haven't been to MO since 2011 [02:52]
thestringpuller damn [02:52]
thestringpuller how time flies.. [02:52]
BingoBoingo Yeah [02:53]
thestringpuller I'll send you some crypto mail soon and we'll have a BTC game day. [02:54]
BingoBoingo Cool. [02:55]
* xdotcomm_ (~xdotcomme@24.114.103.221) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:57]
* fanquake (~anonymous@unaffiliated/fanquake) has joined #bitcoin-assets [02:58]
BingoBoingo %book [03:01]
atcbot 25k@239 33k@225 23k@224 | 48k@200 90k@156 10k@155 [03:01]
* Guest70293 is now known as BigBitz [03:03]
csshih o/ BigBitz [03:05]
* cgcardona_ (~cgcardona@cpe-75-85-131-223.hawaii.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:10]
* navhul-l_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00096812 = 0.7745 BTC [+] [03:13]
* xdotcomm_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [03:15]
* bloctoc has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [03:15]
* darkee has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:24]
* darkee (~darkee@gateway/tor-sasl/darkee) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07410072 = 0.1482 BTC [-] [03:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07452036 = 0.8197 BTC [+] {3} [03:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07455956 = 0.2237 BTC [+] {2} [03:32]
* ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@S010628c68e00af53.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:34]
* stickie (~stickie@67.228.177.213-static.reverse.softlayer.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:37]
* CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [03:52]
* xdotcomm_ (~xdotcomme@24.114.90.200) has joined #bitcoin-assets [03:52]
* bloctoc (~bloctoc@c-67-174-198-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:01]
* xdotcomm_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:09]
* LorenzoMoney (~LorenzoMo@unaffiliated/lorenzomoney) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:10]
* sull (ad5559ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.85.89.202) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:13]
kakobrekla if anyone is short of doge bullshit; http://moneyandtech.com/dogecon-sf-costume-contest-winner/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=dogecon-sf-costume-contest-winner [04:13]
Namworld That's some thick chest hair... [04:16]
kakobrekla i watched a bunch of episodes of computer chronicles quite some time ago, i guess this kennas show will have a similar feel in 20 years or so. the main difference though is that cc was not ran by scammers but the opposite. [04:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00096853 = 16.9977 BTC [+] {3} [04:18]
mircea_popescu !up sull [04:20]
assbot Voicing sull for 30 minutes. [04:21]
* assbot gives voice to sull [04:21]
Duffer1 kakobrekla did you see the doge nascar? [04:21]
sull thanks. hey [04:21]
mircea_popescu hello. who're you ? [04:21]
mircea_popescu %t [04:21]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 224 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 44k High: 224 Low: 170 VWAP: 219 [04:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] [04:21]
kakobrekla Duffer1 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#656103 [04:21]
sull bitcoinpete sent me [04:22]
Duffer1 ya pretty much [04:22]
mircea_popescu anyone want to lend me a billion or so of the dogecoins on a one year term ? [04:22]
Duffer1 the hood of the car is worse [04:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0335 = 0.201 BTC [+] {2} [04:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] [04:22]
mircea_popescu sull cool. [04:22]
mircea_popescu but... still. [04:23]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i can lend you 40000 [04:23]
thestringpuller lolol [04:23]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller what's the thing trading for, 50 satoshi per ? [04:23]
Namworld Around 100 satoshi afaik [04:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] [04:24]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller 40k hardly worth the paper to print the contract on. [04:25]
* aegis has quit (Excess Flood) [04:26]
* aegis (~aegis@162.219.176.122) has joined #bitcoin-assets [04:27]
Namworld Since it's about 18 bucks of dogecoins, it's probably worth the paper, just not the time. [04:27]
Namworld Unless you print on gold sheets [04:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23453 @ 0.00097322 = 22.8249 BTC [+] {3} [04:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0315001 = 0.189 BTC [+] [04:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] [04:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0335 = 0.1675 BTC [+] [04:44]
* Anon29486307 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0745599 = 0.2237 BTC [+] [04:47]
* assbot removes voice from sull [04:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0317301 = 0.2538 BTC [-] [04:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0333001 = 0.2664 BTC [-] [04:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.06474168 = 0.5179 BTC [-] [04:56]
* bawse has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-] [04:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-] [04:59]
* KRS1 (~KRS1@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [05:03]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [13:31]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [13:31]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [13:31]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:31]
* navhul-lacsup has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [13:37]
* Skirmant (~Skirmant@78-60-20-68.static.zebra.lt) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:39]
chanserv OP [13:39]
chanserv OP #trilema mircea_popescu [13:40]
* #bitcoin-assets :You're not a channel operator [13:40]
chanserv OP #bitcoin-assets mircea_popescu [13:40]
* Duffer1 has quit (Quit: Duffer1) [13:41]
* Namworld has quit () [13:42]
* grubles (~grubles@96.59.146.47) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:49]
* grubles has quit (Changing host) [13:49]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:49]
* Luke-Jr has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:56]
* Luke-Jr (~luke-jr@gateway/tor-sasl/luke-jr) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:00]
* ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@S010628c68e00af53.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:00]
* equex has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:01]
* numerisTrade (~numeris@unaffiliated/numeris) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:05]
* FabianB_ is now known as FabianB [14:05]
* ericmuyser has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [14:05]
* DoctorBTC (~DoctorBTC@198.23.71.100-static.reverse.softlayer.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:05]
* DoctorBTC has quit (Changing host) [14:05]
* DoctorBTC (~DoctorBTC@unaffiliated/doctorbtc) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:05]
* lnovy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:06]
* lnovy_ (~lnovy@gw1.globalcom.cz) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:06]
* kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:13]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:13]
* fanquake has quit (Quit: fanquake) [14:21]
* eqx_zZz (a@ti0129a430-1101.bb.online.no) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:24]
* grubles (~grubles@96.59.146.47) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:26]
* grubles has quit (Changing host) [14:26]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:26]
* lnostdal (~lnostdal@246.112.45.31.customer.cdi.no) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:37]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [14:37]
mircea_popescu . [14:38]
* #bitcoin-assets :Cannot send to channel [14:38]
* lnovy_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:48]
* lnovy (~lnovy@gw1.globalcom.cz) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:48]
* grubles (~grubles@96.59.146.47) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:50]
* grubles has quit (Changing host) [14:50]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:50]
* pactr has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:58]
* pactr (~pactr@gateway/tor-sasl/captr) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:58]
* sunshyne (sunshyne@91.228.115.139) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:59]
* ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@S010628c68e00af53.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:01]
* sunshynez has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:01]
* ericmuyser has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:06]
* coingenuity (~coingenui@cpe-76-176-175-200.san.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:10]
* coingenuity has quit (Changing host) [15:10]
* coingenuity (~coingenui@unaffiliated/coingenuity) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:10]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:11]
* Anon29486307 (~Anon29486@host86-136-1-68.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:17]
* eqx_zZz is now known as equex [15:24]
* grubles (~grubles@96.59.146.47) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:25]
* grubles has quit (Changing host) [15:25]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:25]
* peterl (~peterl@108-204-237-26.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:29]
* assbot (~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:29]
* ChanServ gives voice to assbot [15:29]
* ChanServ gives channel operator status to assbot [15:29]
* numerisTrade has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00096957 = 10.4714 BTC [-] [15:30]
* assbot gives voice to FabianB [15:30]
FabianB wb assbot [15:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.074 = 0.74 BTC [-] [15:31]
* assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu [15:32]
mircea_popescu ya srsly. [15:32]
* numerisTrade (~numeris@unaffiliated/numeris) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:32]
mircea_popescu so did i miss out a lot of chan ? [15:32]
kakobrekla !jd mpif [15:32]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.87329413 BTC; +0.01841840 BTC (+0.0112%) since last check 8h 31m 14s ago. [15:32]
FabianB short logs today :) [15:33]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-april-2014-statement/ < btw [15:33]
ozbot BitBet, April 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [15:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: why there needs to be a 'kickstarter' for a flashlight, i cannot answer. ask the gods. << because why not. [15:35]
mircea_popescu i suspect the reason is purely psychological : "the people", ie, your average joe, feel disempowered by corporate technology [15:36]
mircea_popescu and so have these special support clubs to tell each other that "we're still human, because we can still make things" [15:36]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:36]
mircea_popescu much for the same reason homeless bums carry around "cool" but not actually working pieces of human tech [15:36]
mircea_popescu it's their brand, their link to humanity. they too could be counted among the living, for they too have the items. [15:37]
* saulimus has quit (Quit: saulimus) [15:37]
mircea_popescu and so in this perspective, people starting and people funding kickstarter campaigns aren't into it for the direct reason, but for the meta reason : to have been in it. [15:37]
mircea_popescu explains why all the nonsense going on in there continues to go on unabated, at any rate. [15:37]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:50]
mircea_popescu moiety: sort of unrelated but is it just me that is intensely annoyed by gawker as a website? << not really that intensely. another gossip rag, plenty of em. [15:50]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/smg-april-2014-statement/ < this, btw, has a meaty misc comments section and prolly worth your read. [15:52]
* assbot gives voice to artifexd [15:52]
ozbot S.MG, April 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [15:52]
mircea_popescu assbot: [15:52]
mircea_popescu Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.85524671 BTC; +0.00456912 BTC (+0.0028%) since last check 10m 4s ago. << kakobrekla you magnificent bastard, that last check is epic. [15:52]
mircea_popescu please give me a cookie for this great idea you had. [15:53]
mircea_popescu !jp mpif [15:53]
mircea_popescu !jd mpif [15:53]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.87049627 BTC; -0.00279786 BTC (-0.0017%) since last check 20m 24s ago. [15:53]
artifexd It would be nice if assbot knew the total investment and could thus also give a total up or down. [15:54]
mircea_popescu i'm having brain orgasms over here, this is EXACTLY the sort of thing life is all about. so i made a wonderful thing, on top of which dooglus made a wonderful thing, on top of which kakobrekla made a wonderful thing. none of these are particularly hard to do, once you have the others' stuff. but they're nigh on impossible to do if you do not. [15:54]
mircea_popescu this is motherfucking synergy, that's what that shit is. [15:55]
artifexd !b2 [15:55]
artifexd !b 3 [15:56]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1EGY79M/plain/) [15:56]
artifexd :( [15:56]
mircea_popescu "If you got here via a link to an older item, it has been purged from the database" [15:56]
mircea_popescu is dpaste fucked ? [15:56]
artifexd It works without the /plain/ [15:57]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: aha! a loss! << FU FUDster! [15:57]
artifexd http://dpaste.com/1EGY79M.txt [15:57]
mircea_popescu a ty [15:58]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:00]
mircea_popescu moiety: if anyone joins called gaylesmum DO NOT VOICE <<< wasn't it stiffler's mum ? [16:00]
* ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@S010628c68e00af53.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:02]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/812/atc-to-reach-block-50000-on-time/ ThickAsThieves check out this shit, atc diff bets are a thing now. close to 5btc collected even! [16:02]
ozbot BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time [16:03]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: so he switches to threatening, because that's always worked: "Please refund my money immediately, or i will go crazy all over the internet << dunno if you've read bitbet nov report ? [16:04]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: nope [16:04]
fluffypony ;;google trilema bitbet november [16:04]
gribble BitBet, November 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; BitBet, April 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; BitBet, October 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: [16:04]
mircea_popescu pretty much the exact thing, plus an attempt to quantify the effects. [16:05]
* ericmuyser has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:06]
* chetty (~chet@unaffiliated/chetty) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:08]
* assbot gives voice to chetty [16:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 29 @ 0.00600011 = 0.174 BTC [-] [16:09]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:14]
mircea_popescu !jd mpif [16:26]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.87563940 BTC; +0.00514313 BTC (+0.0031%) since last check 32m 46s ago. [16:26]
* CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nidgtbtbnykaanpy) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.472725 BTC [+] [16:34]
assbot [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 6900 @ 0.00021725 = 1.499 BTC [+] [16:35]
* Trix is now known as trixisowned [16:35]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.03277022 = 0.1639 BTC [-] [16:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0319001 = 0.1595 BTC [-] [16:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] [16:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.073 = 0.146 BTC [-] {2} [16:41]
* Neil has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.071975 = 0.2879 BTC [-] {3} [16:44]
* peterl has quit (Quit: peterl) [16:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.03367013 = 0.8418 BTC [+] {2} [16:50]
* xdotcomm_ (~xdotcomme@bas1-montreal51-845445854.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07121 = 0.1424 BTC [-] [16:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 120 @ 0.07110836 = 8.533 BTC [-] {3} [16:52]
* Skirmant_ (~Skirmant@78-60-20-68.static.zebra.lt) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 250 @ 0.07037332 = 17.5933 BTC [-] {18} [16:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07001 = 2.8004 BTC [-] [16:57]
* Skirmant has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:57]
mircea_popescu !jd mpif [16:58]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.87394980 BTC; -0.00168960 BTC (-0.0010%) since last check 32m 4s ago. [16:58]
* Skirmant_ is now known as Skirmant [17:00]
* nick1234abcd_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:01]
* nick1234abcd_ (sid26299@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lxldysjzsmryogog) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:02]
* ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@S010628c68e00af53.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:03]
mircea_popescu %block [17:07]
* ericmuyser has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:07]
mircea_popescu %diff [17:07]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 143645.47 in 1694 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -68.45 [17:07]
mircea_popescu %ptp [17:11]
* grubles (~grubles@96.59.146.47) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:11]
* grubles has quit (Changing host) [17:11]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:11]
* xdotcomm_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:13]
mircea_popescu %cm [17:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0319101 = 0.1596 BTC [+] [17:16]
mircea_popescu %lb [17:16]
atcbot [ATC Last Block] Height: 30562 Time: 2014-05-03T14:06:59Z Vout Sum: 512 Number TXs: 1 Difficulty: 455357.12903751 Hash: 000000000000096857832afbc07cd418f79d9120dcb3cf3dcb018b9bcbc7ad7d Fee: 0.00000000 Size: 552 Days Destroyed: 0 Confirmations: 1 [17:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] [17:17]
* MykelSIlver (~MykelSIlv@s51474ca2.adsl.online.nl) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:27]
* Carl_ (4852755a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.82.117.90) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:28]
* Carl_ has quit (Client Quit) [17:29]
Apocalyptic .d [17:30]
ozbot 8.001 billion | Next Diff in 1450 blocks | Estimated Change: 7.3878% in 9d 7h 41m 5s [17:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0331 = 0.1655 BTC [-] [17:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03189153 = 0.1595 BTC [-] {2} [17:39]
fluffypony http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CoinDesk/~3/5cdi4FD9rfc/ [17:39]
fluffypony Argh [17:39]
fluffypony http://www.coindesk.com/new-sms-bitcoin-service-aims-emerging-markets/ [17:39]
fluffypony That's actually mildly interesting for Africa, if someone couples that with an exchange network like m-pesa's it could be disruptive [17:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] [17:40]
mircea_popescu "someone" ? [17:40]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I don't have the knowledge or connections to do set that up in the Northern African countries [17:42]
mircea_popescu no dice starting it in the southern ? [17:42]
* Maciano (57d44644@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.212.70.68) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00096844 = 5.0359 BTC [-] [17:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0701 = 0.4206 BTC [+] {2} [17:42]
mircea_popescu !up Maciano [17:42]
assbot Voicing Maciano for 30 minutes. [17:42]
* assbot gives voice to Maciano [17:42]
mircea_popescu hello Maciano [17:42]
Maciano Hi [17:43]
* danielpbarron hopes this is Micon [17:43]
Maciano I joined, saw your tweet [17:43]
mircea_popescu ok, how much do you know about bitcoin ? [17:43]
Maciano on possible work, what's the job? [17:43]
Maciano I've been following it since 1,5 year [17:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 132 @ 0.00442725 = 0.5844 BTC [-] {7} [17:43]
Maciano bought around that time [17:43]
mircea_popescu pretty cool. so what's your prior experience with aff marketing ? [17:44]
Maciano mostly economic, no programming [17:44]
mircea_popescu no programming required. [17:44]
fluffypony Nah, Vodacom (cellular service provider) and Nedbank (bank) spent millions in trying to bring M-pesa to South Africa; after a few years they don't have a substantial market and Nedbank has pulled out of the deal. Not a good market indicator. [17:44]
Maciano I'm not native English speaking, you mean SEA & marketing [17:44]
mircea_popescu who did you work for, for how long, starting hwne. [17:44]
mircea_popescu no, i mean affiliate marketing. [17:44]
Maciano Working for telecoms (T-Mobile, KPN), say 5 yrs [17:44]
Maciano before as PhD, but that wasn't for me [17:45]
mircea_popescu but specifically in affiliate marketing ? [17:45]
* assbot gives voice to BigBitz [17:45]
BigBitz Ohhh... a job interview? :D [17:45]
Maciano no. [17:45]
mircea_popescu Maciano well that's problematic then, because i quite specifically need someone with aff experience, and lots of it. [17:45]
mircea_popescu BigBitz not even the first. [17:45]
BigBitz :) [17:46]
fluffypony At least the porn dude knew the acronyms :-P [17:46]
mircea_popescu fluffypony that's a point yeah. [17:46]
BigBitz Porn <3 [17:46]
mircea_popescu i meant about the market indicator. [17:47]
mircea_popescu i wonder why they failed. [17:47]
BigBitz i can haz jawb? [17:47]
Maciano OK, thought it was worth a try. [17:47]
* cgcardona_ (~cgcardona@cpe-75-85-131-223.hawaii.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:47]
Maciano bye then [17:47]
mircea_popescu well it was, at least now you've met us all :) [17:47]
mircea_popescu BigBitz now that all depends. [17:48]
Maciano good luck, I read your site from time to time, you've got your shit together [17:48]
Maciano adios [17:48]
mircea_popescu hopefully it stays that way. ciao. [17:48]
* Maciano has quit (Quit: Page closed) [17:48]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: There's been a strong push in low-cost banking services here; there's a legal requirement for every bank to offer a low-cost banking product that doesn't exceed dictated maximum costs, so for remittance within the country (for miners sending money to their families, for eg) they just use that [17:49]
fluffypony International remittance is more interesting - there are tons of Zimbabweans and Malawians here [17:50]
mircea_popescu ah [17:50]
fluffypony But you need that agent network in the destination countries to "cash out" [17:50]
* assbot gives voice to cgcardona_ [17:50]
mircea_popescu myeah. [17:50]
cgcardona_ morning everyone o/ [17:50]
fluffypony So you kinda need to setup a multi-country operation [17:50]
mircea_popescu afaik the african boom in sms payments was mostyly driven by nigeria's oil sector [17:50]
fluffypony cgcardona_: Morns [17:50]
mircea_popescu but i readily admit i have no clue re africa. [17:50]
cgcardona_ o/ fluffypony [17:50]
mircea_popescu ello cgcardona_ [17:50]
cgcardona_ MP o/ top of tha mornin [17:51]
mircea_popescu i think i left you a msg on gribble [17:51]
mircea_popescu but possibly on some variation of your nick [17:51]
cgcardona_ me? Hmmm. now how do I check gribble messages? (googling) [17:51]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: Very much so - lots of guys from neighbouring countries going to Nigeria to work and needing to send money back to Kenya or whatevs [17:51]
fluffypony cgcardona_: When you auth to the nick I think it sends you the message [17:52]
cgcardona_ hmmm. cgcardona_ is my only nick. I used cgcardona (without the _) a couple of years ago but I've unfortunately lost the password I think. [17:52]
mircea_popescu ;;notes cgcardona [17:53]
gribble Sent 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, and 46 minutes ago: lol is it the first best largest wot ? and Sent 16 hours and 3 minutes ago: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#656509 [17:53]
mircea_popescu tsk tsk. [17:53]
mircea_popescu this is why we don't want to use multiple nicks. [17:53]
cgcardona_ yes, this is why super users don't lose passwords (le sigh) [17:54]
danielpbarron cgcardona_: the nickserv pass? i think they can help you with that? [17:54]
mircea_popescu lol. anyway, noted. [17:54]
cgcardona_ mircea_popescu: also thanks for the heads up. truly appreciate you thinking of me. [17:54]
cgcardona_ danielpbarron: yea I'll go check right now actually. [17:54]
* bitcoinpete (~bitcoinpe@unaffiliated/bitcoinpete) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:54]
* assbot gives voice to bitcoinpete [17:55]
* cgcardona_ is now known as cgcardona [17:56]
danielpbarron ugh, why is Micon so aloof; I'd like to see these worlds collide [17:57]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: the 1,045 yo 'toss be "Raszagal, Matriarch of the Dark Templar." your intel serves you well [17:57]
mircea_popescu ok so now i have to go to an irl meeting, but! if moar twitter noobs show up on webchat, pls to voice them and tell them i'll be back in a few hours. [17:57]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron you know we go back a ways, he called out bfl originally, mpoe-pr backed him later on. [17:58]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:58]
ThickAsThieves <+ozbot> BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time /// interesting to see so much betting, gives miners more incentive .... if they're paying attention [17:58]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: and non-DELfationary is a new kind of soap [17:58]
ThickAsThieves does someone have that referral link thing mike_c made handy? is it actually functional for referrals or just functionally random loading? [17:59]
danielpbarron mircea_popescu: ya, that's how I found out about you and this channel, actually [17:59]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: have you been inviting more? i saw that sull earlier... [17:59]
danielpbarron I've called into his live podcast many times [17:59]
bitcoinpete *sull came earlier [18:00]
cgcardona danielpbarron: mircea_popescu well that was waaaay easier than I expected [18:00]
cgcardona now does my new nick have my wot ratings? [18:00]
danielpbarron hah [18:00]
cgcardona or do I need to get them transfered [18:00]
cgcardona #shame [18:00]
danielpbarron gribble thinks you still have the _ [18:00]
danielpbarron i don't think it's nearly as easy to get that changed [18:01]
danielpbarron i'll re-rate you [18:01]
cgcardona yea prob not [18:01]
cgcardona thankfully my wot score is pretty low. thanks man [18:01]
cgcardona ;;gettrust cgcardona [18:01]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user cgcardona_ to user cgcardona: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=cgcardona_&dest=cgcardona | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cgcardona | Rated since: never [18:01]
ThickAsThieves mircea_popescu when you mention "art" for S.MG shall be open market, does that mean: 1. It will start that way? 2. It will/won't not have a style guide as boundary? 3. Audio will be sourced likewise? (style guide? music? sfx? voice?) [18:01]
* ericmuyser (~ericmuyse@S010628c68e00af53.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:01]
cgcardona ok give me a sec to get it all set up again. [18:02]
danielpbarron 11:01:27 <+cgcardona> thankfully my WoT score is pretty low. << don't hear that often [18:02]
* assbot gives voice to cgcardona [18:02]
cgcardona haha true. [18:02]
ThickAsThieves mp clarification on question one "start that way" as in there will there not be a base set of art for everything within the intended style of the game [18:04]
* MykelSIlver (~MykelSIlv@s51474ca2.adsl.online.nl) has left #bitcoin-assets [18:07]
cgcardona so is it possible to delete/reassign my previous nick's gpg keys to this nick in the WoT or should i generate new keys for this nick? [18:07]
danielpbarron my favorite aspect of any long-term achievement style game has been the markets and economy; i'm pretty excited about S.MG [18:08]
danielpbarron cgcardona: i think that's possible, or I don't see why not [18:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00096854 = 6.6345 BTC [+] {2} [18:11]
cgcardona ;;ticker [18:11]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:11]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 440.02, Best ask: 441.48, Bid-ask spread: 1.46000, Last trade: 441.48, 24 hour volume: 6660.14677287, 24 hour low: 438.0, 24 hour high: 455.78, 24 hour vwap: 446.941306981 [18:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.4658678 = 9.3174 BTC [-] {8} [18:16]
* micon (a689d126@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.209.38) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:22]
kakobrekla !up micon [18:22]
assbot Insufficient rights, kakobrekla, !up yourself on PM first. [18:22]
kakobrekla fu [18:22]
cgcardona haha [18:22]
cgcardona sorry [18:22]
cgcardona !up kakobrekla [18:22]
assbot Voicing kakobrekla for 30 minutes. [18:22]
* assbot gives voice to kakobrekla [18:22]
cgcardona ;-] [18:22]
kakobrekla noes! [18:23]
kakobrekla do micon [18:23]
cgcardona !up micon [18:23]
assbot Voicing micon for 30 minutes. [18:23]
* assbot gives voice to micon [18:23]
danielpbarron micon! [18:23]
danielpbarron is it really you? gribble says you aren't authed :p [18:23]
* assbot gives voice to kakobrekla [18:24]
kakobrekla !up grubles [18:24]
assbot Voicing grubles for 30 minutes. [18:24]
* assbot gives voice to grubles [18:24]
kakobrekla ;;getturst assbot micon [18:25]
gribble Error: "getturst" is not a valid command. [18:25]
kakobrekla i said GET THRUST [18:25]
kakobrekla fly motherfucker [18:25]
kakobrekla ;;gettrust assbot micon [18:26]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user micon: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=micon | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=micon | Rated since: never [18:26]
Apocalyptic no WoT looks like [18:26]
danielpbarron he told me he's busy atm (on twitter); will be back later [18:26]
* micon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.475 = 1.425 BTC [+] {2} [18:26]
* zoinky (~Adium@unaffiliated/zoinky) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:26]
kakobrekla so much effort for ping timeout. [18:26]
Apocalyptic who's this guy btw ? [18:26]
kakobrekla !up zoinky [18:26]
assbot Voicing zoinky for 30 minutes. [18:26]
* assbot gives voice to zoinky [18:26]
danielpbarron he's the chairman of sealswithclubs.eu and host of donkdown.com, a live podcast [18:27]
cgcardona ;;rate danielpbarron #bitcoin-assets regular [18:28]
gribble Error: '#bitcoin-assets' is not a valid integer. [18:28]
cgcardona heh [18:28]
danielpbarron and he was a major voice against BFL [18:28]
cgcardona ;;rate danielpbarron 1 #bitcoin-assets regular [18:28]
gribble Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users. [18:28]
cgcardona ah damn [18:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.475 = 2.85 BTC [+] [18:28]
danielpbarron one sec [18:28]
cgcardona *on the outside looking in* [18:28]
Apocalyptic ty danielpbarron [18:29]
* MarieLynn (adf604c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.246.4.199) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:30]
danielpbarron cgcardona: you should be good-to-go [18:31]
BigBitz I used to like Micon....... [18:31]
BigBitz then he wouldn't give me information on KingOfSports when he scammed me..... so meh. [18:31]
cgcardona cool thanks danielpbarron [18:31]
BigBitz however his "interviews" with BFL_Josh are pretty funny. [18:31]
* MarieLynn has quit (Client Quit) [18:31]
danielpbarron I like Micon, but i've recently come to understand why online poker is essentially a scam, even if the operators aren't directly stealing [18:31]
BigBitz in what regard, number generation or? [18:32]
moiety aftermewn all [18:32]
danielpbarron BigBitz: there is no way to prove that players aren't colluding [18:32]
kakobrekla heya moiety [18:33]
danielpbarron that is why all the online poker traffic has moved to pokerstars play money [18:33]
BigBitz danielpbarron sure... plausiable. [18:33]
cgcardona ;;rate kakobrekla 1 Creator of bitbet.us and creator of #bitcoin-assets [18:33]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user kakobrekla has been recorded. [18:33]
BigBitz but don't most limit connections per IP etc. [18:33]
BigBitz [ yes proxies, vpn not hard ] [18:33]
moiety wasn't it stiffler's mum ? << i are not stiffler! [18:33]
cgcardona ;;rate fluffypony 1 seen often in #btc-assets [18:33]
danielpbarron (where players actually BUY play chips from pokerstars, knowing they won't be able to cash out their winnings) [18:33]
kakobrekla danielpbarron are you an expert on this field? [18:33]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user fluffypony has been recorded. [18:33]
danielpbarron BigBitz: that just means the casual players can't collude (so what?) [18:34]
moiety hey kakobrekla did you sleep well? [18:34]
danielpbarron kakobrekla: no, correct me if i'm wrong [18:34]
cgcardona ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 didn't become the richest person you know by accident. cookie eating bitlord [18:34]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. [18:34]
BigBitz Ah you think the high rollers/industry players or operaters are colluding? [18:34]
kakobrekla actually i got woken up by a phone call from hanbot, moiety, so i was interrupted :) [18:34]
cgcardona sorry for the noise everyone - rerating now that I'm in control of the non (_) nick [18:34]
danielpbarron BigBitz: I think there is a financial incentive to create colluding bot nets [18:34]
BigBitz Agree, for sure. [18:35]
Apocalyptic why do people here call her hanbot ? [18:35]
cgcardona ;;rate cgcardona_ 1 My previous nick—it's now cgcardona [18:35]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cgcardona_ has been recorded. [18:35]
Apocalyptic hannah is much nicer [18:35]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:35]
kakobrekla cause thats her nick here? [18:35]
Apocalyptic sounds like a bot name to me [18:35]
BigBitz kakobrekla Y U SO SMERT? [18:36]
moiety kakobrekla: go back to bed! it's caturday :D [18:36]
* grubles (~grubles@96.59.146.47) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:36]
* grubles has quit (Changing host) [18:36]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:36]
kakobrekla moiety i did actually. got up a bit later then, at 4pm. [18:36]
danielpbarron I host a house game of poker every saturday night; that's where poker works: where I can see all the players and catch them colluding [18:37]
moiety same here actually, just woke up and its 4:30 here aalllll teh sleeps [but i was making up for being up for 2 days] [18:37]
kakobrekla danielpbarron no, you seemed to me like you have some first hand experience with that, so i asked. [18:37]
danielpbarron and also, it's a WoT thing, I only invite friends and family [18:37]
danielpbarron oh, you mean colluding? no, never [18:38]
kakobrekla k [18:38]
danielpbarron not with bots that is; i have in the past been on skype with a friend, but it always bothered me [18:38]
danielpbarron like years back when pokerstars still did FIAT [18:38]
BigBitz danielpbarron yes agree with that also. [18:38]
BigBitz Ah yeah US can't play Pokerstars fiat. [18:39]
BigBitz or any poker fiat, really, right? [18:39]
danielpbarron we always ended up losing money whenever we did that; it's too much to try to think of when I should really be focusing on getting reads out of the other players [18:39]
danielpbarron but a bot-net can crunch all those numbers pretty fast [18:40]
danielpbarron BigBitz: right, unless it's hosted by a IRL casino [18:40]
BigBitz yeah... [18:40]
BigBitz I even tried poker calcs... [18:40]
BigBitz always sucked. [18:40]
BigBitz didn't tell me anything I didn't know or couldn't work out. [18:41]
cgcardona ok gonna test my new passwords w/ freenode/nickserv && gribble/assbot. bbias [18:41]
* cgcardona has quit (Quit: cgcardona) [18:41]
* cgcardona_ (~cgcardona@cpe-75-85-131-223.hawaii.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:41]
danielpbarron well these bot nets can control like half a table, so when you get AK: they might know that 2 aces and 1 king got folded already, and their QJ is a strong hand [18:41]
* cgcardona_ has quit (Client Quit) [18:42]
BigBitz Yup. [18:42]
* cgcardona (~cgcardona@cpe-75-85-131-223.hawaii.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:42]
* cgcardona has quit (Changing host) [18:43]
* cgcardona (~cgcardona@unaffiliated/cgcardona) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:43]
* trixisowned has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:43]
ThickAsThieves http://devilsadvocate.biz/the-denomination-decimal-designation-debate-revisited/ [18:44]
ozbot The Denomination Decimal Designation Debate, Revisited [18:44]
* assbot gives voice to cgcardona [18:44]
cgcardona boom [18:44]
cgcardona ok cool. the old nick cgcardona_ will no longer be active. [18:44]
danielpbarron heh, i fell for the whole mBit thing that all the "support the community" folk were pushing; now I prefer to see all 8 decimal places after the 0 [18:45]
cgcardona why oh why doesn't nickserv turn ENFORCE on by default? [18:47]
cgcardona what could be the reasoning behind such a default setting? [18:47]
danielpbarron i think the meme is: "because idiots" [18:47]
cgcardona meaning what? That people will squat on nicks or that people wouldn't be able to handle putting in their pass each time? [18:49]
danielpbarron meaning that most users aren't using nickserv for the WoT and don't care if someone else is on their nick when they are gone [18:54]
cgcardona ;;later tell MarieLynn Regarding http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#656509 I'm a rails dev [18:54]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:54]
cgcardona ah I see what you mean [18:54]
cgcardona yea most people def aren't in the wot and don't care [18:54]
danielpbarron and they are dumb, and they would get confused if nickserv forced them to type a password every time [18:54]
cgcardona just to check I just ran `info name_of_op` in another room I hang out in and he didn't have it turned on either [18:54]
danielpbarron there are a lot of high profile Bitcoin users in other channels who don't auth with gribble; it's just not important to them [18:56]
ThickAsThieves maybe they just arent actually important to anyone important [18:56]
* assbot removes voice from zoinky [18:56]
ThickAsThieves this starts shortly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqlvk51uS1M [18:59]
* grubles has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:59]
danielpbarron high profile doesn't necessarily mean important; it usually means the opposite [18:59]
ThickAsThieves mitbitcoinexpo.org for schedule [18:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.63712348 BTC to 8`391 shares, 31428 satoshi per share [19:00]
danielpbarron or else this channel would be too busy to read [19:00]
ThickAsThieves mostly MIT dorks [19:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share [19:02]
* CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [19:02]
kakobrekla >Join us on May 3rd for one of the most exciting Bitcoin Expos ever! Speakers from the Bitcoin Foundation, Circle Internet Financial, Armory Technologies, and more. See more at [19:02]
kakobrekla how do you measure 'excitement'? [19:02]
ThickAsThieves in MIT penises [19:03]
kakobrekla a [19:03]
ThickAsThieves http://it.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/24gknv/im_jesse_eisinger_a_pulitzerwinning_financial/ch6x01b [19:04]
* cgcardona is now known as cgcardona_ [19:05]
* ChanServ removes voice from cgcardona_ [19:06]
* grubles (~grubles@96.59.146.47) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:12]
* grubles has quit (Changing host) [19:12]
* grubles (~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:12]
* cgcardona_ is now known as cgcardona [19:12]
* grubles has quit (Client Quit) [19:13]
* assbot gives voice to cgcardona [19:13]
cgcardona ok i've removed all my previous wot ratings from the cgcardona_ account and rerated w/ my new nick. If i had previously rated you and you don't see it now w/ the new nick let me know and I'll fix that. thanks [19:16]
danielpbarron hm, that's pretty smooth; good to know if I ever decide to switch to using 'BitcoinBarron' (which i've already registered) [19:19]
BigBitz It's simple! :) [19:20]
cgcardona yea it wasn't too painful but it could suck if you had a huge WoT score. [19:20]
BigBitz anyone going to BitFin in Ireland? [19:20]
danielpbarron although someone took the .com already (i guess once Bitcoin hit the mainstream, squatters registered every mispelling relating to Bitcoin) [19:21]
* jMyles has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:22]
ThickAsThieves yknow one thing that really sucks about Bitcoin conferences is how they spend so much time talking about what it is [19:26]
* Micon (46bdc9e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.189.201.228) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:33]
danielpbarron !up Micon [19:34]
assbot Insufficient rights, danielpbarron, !up yourself on PM first. [19:34]
* assbot gives voice to danielpbarron [19:34]
danielpbarron !up Micon [19:34]
assbot Voicing Micon for 30 minutes. [19:34]
* assbot gives voice to Micon [19:34]
Micon tyvm assbot, DPB [19:34]
danielpbarron :D [19:34]
danielpbarron ;;gettrust Micon [19:34]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user Micon: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=danielpbarron&dest=Micon | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Micon | Rated since: never [19:35]
Micon so what is the fuss about DBP? [19:35]
danielpbarron idk, mircea_popescu wanted to talk business with you, and this is where those conversations usually happen [19:35]
danielpbarron but he's busy at the moment [19:35]
BigBitz Is it SRSBIZNZ? [19:35]
Micon so like, this isn't FED heaven? [19:35]
BigBitz No such place, Micon. [19:36]
danielpbarron if the FED is smart, they have a rep in here [19:36]
Micon so maybe not the best place to talk business :) ? [19:36]
Micon just tell me if I'm missing something :) [19:36]
danielpbarron there is nothing to hide here [19:36]
danielpbarron this isn't a place for scammers [19:37]
ThickAsThieves not the best to scam or commit crime, sure [19:37]
ThickAsThieves but business [19:37]
ThickAsThieves good place [19:37]
Micon fair enough. I may have business to bring here in the future. Always listening, as well [19:37]
cgcardona ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 #bitcoin-assets regular [19:37]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user ThickAsThieves has been recorded. [19:37]
ThickAsThieves ty [19:37]
cgcardona np [19:38]
danielpbarron Micon: sorry I haven't called in to your show in a while, i've been so busy lately I space out on the time [19:38]
* bitcoinpete has quit (Quit: bitcoinpete) [19:38]
* bitcoinpete (~bitcoinpe@unaffiliated/bitcoinpete) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:38]
Micon that's cool, I shut down the site until it's fixed. should be soon-ish [19:38]
* assbot gives voice to bitcoinpete [19:39]
ThickAsThieves Micon, I know I know your name, but it escapes me, what do you do? Was it SWC? [19:39]
Micon SwC = sealswithclubs.eu [19:39]
ThickAsThieves cool cool [19:39]
danielpbarron he was one of the first to call out BFL [19:39]
Micon largest bitcoin poker site. I am site pro / affiliate manager / marketing director / TD [19:39]
ThickAsThieves i recall the BFL videos and coverage [19:40]
BigBitz Micon nuke that KingOfSports kid. [19:40]
BigBitz SwC and BFL_Josh hilarity. [19:40]
cgcardona BigBitz: yea that was funny [19:40]
Micon yes, and BLF_Josh tried to live-troll me but I re-trolled him harder [19:40]
BigBitz DAT TROLL. [19:40]
Micon I saw recently my man Cyrus Farivar from Ars / NPR lit up BFL harder than I have ever seen before. Love seeing real legal action happening to those fucks [19:41]
danielpbarron i think MP is interested in the "affiliate manager" aspect of your experience [19:41]
ThickAsThieves Josh will be at the Amsterdam conference [19:41]
Micon They are at all conferences. We should have an elite team that shows up and paintballs him each time he shows up [19:42]
* Skirmant_ (~Skirmant@78-60-20-68.static.zebra.lt) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:42]
ThickAsThieves I'm still waiting for you guys to submit questions to presenters for me to ask: http://devilsadvocate.biz/amsterdam-bitcoin-conferences-quantum-mining-and-the-future/ [19:42]
Micon seroiusly, paintball guns. always vs. Zerlan. Every conference until they stop showing up IMO [19:42]
BigBitz I met Josh at BTC London... [19:42]
BigBitz and I'll be honest - he's affable. [19:42]
ThickAsThieves paintball guns would get me jailed [19:42]
BigBitz quite clearly a lying, cheating, cunt, but... affable. [19:42]
Micon +1 [19:42]
ThickAsThieves therefore your request is disqualified [19:42]
Micon Solid snake oil salesman [19:43]
BigBitz Micon sure. [19:43]
* danielpbarron isn't interested in acts of violence [19:43]
BigBitz I had a very good chat with him. [19:43]
BigBitz Clearly it was all utter bullshit... [19:43]
BigBitz but he can hold a conversation. [19:43]
* bloctoc has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:43]
ThickAsThieves so can a car salesman [19:43]
BigBitz ThickAsThieves yeah - that's his "job" I was just, surprised, I guess :) [19:44]
danielpbarron Micon: do you have a GPG key? [19:44]
Micon obv [19:44]
BigBitz Also - very tall. [19:44]
Micon attached to every email I send... [19:44]
danielpbarron ;;eauth [19:44]
gribble (eauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. [19:44]
Micon http://pastebin.com/R1SWJhtp [19:44]
ozbot Micon PGP - Pastebin.com [19:44]
danielpbarron Micon: so get in the WoT! [19:45]
Micon so how? why? [19:45]
* Skirmant has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:45]
BigBitz ;;gpg info Micon [19:45]
gribble No such user registered. [19:45]
danielpbarron Micon: so we can be sure that the Micon we're talking to today is the same as any Micons in the future [19:45]
danielpbarron and also to confirm that you are in fact the Micon of SWC fame [19:46]
cgcardona ^ [19:46]
ThickAsThieves and so you can build a rep in this meta world [19:46]
danielpbarron and then I can give you a rating, and then you can voice yourself [19:46]
Micon I mean... it all seems odd / gamable to me [19:47]
moiety cgcardona; danielpbarron: getting the client to autosign-in is obv too difficult for some people. does bug me though if nickserv has a freak out and you re-identify, it unauths you from the wot [19:47]
Micon all the WoT's I have ever seen are "scammers climb to the top" situations [19:47]
danielpbarron feel free to voice concerns, i'm sure they can be easily refuted [19:47]
bitcoinpete micon: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation [19:47]
benkay * danielpbarron isn't interested in acts of violence << i love a good bit of the old ultra-violence [19:47]
BigBitz Micon that is a possibility with any WoT. [19:47]
danielpbarron Micon: don't pay attention to "total rating scores," that's where the scammers show up [19:48]
moiety how do you measure 'excitement'? [19:48]
moiety in MIT penises // lol bashing that [19:48]
BigBitz I need to watch out then. I have a considerable total rating, danielpbarron. [19:48]
danielpbarron BigBitz: it's not definitive [19:48]
ThickAsThieves Micon, it's not gameable in the sense that it is a tool that references who trusts whom [19:48]
BigBitz Heh, I know... I know... :) [19:48]
ThickAsThieves it is not meant for just looking at the score [19:49]
ThickAsThieves that would be incorrect usage [19:49]
Micon For me personally, coming from the poker world, being insanely google-able and IRL verfiable, and especially because I spend every June at Rio since 2006, being on bitcointalk and doing btc trades here in Vegas since 2011... most ppl don't have any issue if they need to trust me. [19:49]
ThickAsThieves it is meant for connecting people you trust [19:49]
BigBitz ;;gettrust ThickAsThieves [19:49]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BigBitz to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BigBitz&dest=ThickAsThieves | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ThickAsThieves | Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013 [19:49]
danielpbarron Micon: for example, it works like this ,,(gettrust danielpbarron BigBitz) [19:49]
BigBitz Micon the issue is you could be anyone. [19:49]
Micon sure [19:49]
danielpbarron huh, that only works in otc? [19:49]
Micon but I could tweet that I'm me right now [19:49]
BigBitz joining the WoT and using your key provides the integrity. [19:49]
danielpbarron ;;gettrust danielpbarron BigBitz [19:49]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask BigBitz!~BigBitz@unaffiliated/bigbitz. Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user BigBitz: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 19 via 17 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=danielpbarron&dest=BigBitz | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BigBitz | Rated since: Fri Apr 26 11:13:53 2013 [19:49]
BigBitz danielpbarron you do it like ;;gettrust danielpbarron BigBitz [19:49]
ThickAsThieves what Google is missing is the ability to verify you in a live situation, and the ability to have a "ledger" on your trust transactions with people [19:50]
danielpbarron the thing i did would have worked in -otc [19:50]
Micon sure I'll join, I'm just explaining why I think WoT's in general do not preform the function the legitimate traders want [19:50]
ThickAsThieves another perk is generally supporting the movement [19:50]
Micon for me verification in live situation is super, duper easy [19:50]
Micon I'm totally down to generally support the movement [19:50]
danielpbarron Micon: I can explain how the opposite is true [19:50]
Micon so I'll gladly sign something with my key to get in [19:50]
BigBitz Micon type ;;eregister [19:51]
ThickAsThieves because if we get more use of the WoT, it allows new systems to develop on it [19:51]
BigBitz ;;gettrust BigBitz ThickAsThieves [19:51]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BigBitz to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BigBitz&dest=ThickAsThieves | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ThickAsThieves | Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013 [19:51]
Micon also non-0 chance I'll need to raise a quick $2M worth of btc for big SwC share :) [19:51]
BigBitz weak trust ThickAsThieves :( [19:51]
ThickAsThieves weak trust BigBitz ;) [19:51]
moiety but I could tweet that I'm me right now << but you could also have a fake corresponding tweeter for this purpose [19:52]
cgcardona I play music and recently I'm going to start signing the lon/lat && timestamp right before I come on stage and flash it on the screen [19:52]
ThickAsThieves cgcardona are you familiar with MF Doom? [19:52]
Micon Moiety - My twitter account is 2009 and 5k+ real followers [19:52]
ThickAsThieves he'd have imposters do his shows sometimes [19:52]
cgcardona ThickAsThieves: no -- googling now [19:52]
cgcardona oh cool [19:52]
cgcardona does he wear a mask? noone noticed? [19:53]
ThickAsThieves mask, yeah [19:53]
ThickAsThieves some people noticed [19:53]
cgcardona haha. classic [19:53]
moiety re BigFuckingLiar Josh @ London, he apologised to a lot of people who ate it up and were interested in the next bunch of lies he was wanting to send out [at a delayed timeframe] [19:53]
BigBitz moiety sure he did - that's his "Job" :) [19:53]
moiety Micon: lots of people have old accounts and you can buy followers [19:53]
danielpbarron Micon: you can prove your twitter is you; see keybase.io [19:54]
BigBitz I thought there would have been another BTC London this year but appears not. [19:54]
danielpbarron Micon: but again, it requires GPG signing [19:54]
Micon but then you guys are trusting that GPG key is real-micon [19:54]
moiety BigBitz: did you see half way to the actual date, they bumped up ticket prices? [19:54]
Micon i just gave you a random pastebin with a GPG key [19:54]
moiety i tweetered at them but didnt get a response [19:54]
danielpbarron Micon: you can prove that you have access to modify sealswithclubs.eu with your GPG key [19:54]
danielpbarron Micon: that way, we know that it's the same Micon accross the board [19:55]
BigBitz moiety last year? [19:55]
moiety yep [19:55]
BigBitz Really? [19:55]
moiety yep [19:55]
BigBitz I think I paid like 3.5/4BTC [19:55]
Micon i could modify SwC.eu, but how with GPG key? [19:55]
moiety almost coubled ticket prices from what they started at [19:55]
BigBitz Hateful. [19:55]
BigBitz It was a nice event, though. [19:55]
danielpbarron Micon: you host your pub key on the root [19:55]
BigBitz l39 is a nice location. [19:55]
Micon ah [19:55]
danielpbarron Micon: instead of pastebin [19:55]
danielpbarron err.. not that [19:55]
Micon that's a good idea [19:56]
danielpbarron you host a signed message or something [19:56]
moiety i cancelled going at the last minute BigBitz then regretted it [19:56]
Micon just have the key and a signed msg in many places like that [19:56]
BigBitz I enjoyed it. [19:56]
thestringpuller mod6: where you at? stop being tired. [19:56]
danielpbarron Micon: i can invite you to keybase, they make it really easy to do all that [19:56]
BigBitz Lots of morons there though. [19:56]
* SatoshiJack (~phonecrap@2600:1004:b124:455a:0:45:8337:ac01) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:56]
moiety as tobe expected, nothing is moron free all of the time [19:56]
Micon brb later guys / DPB if you send me how to verify myself with my key I'll do it in a bit [19:56]
BigBitz Yup... Yup... :) [19:57]
Micon tyvm for the invite / glglglgl [19:57]
moiety see you later micon, take care :] [19:57]
danielpbarron Micon: can i use the email you already tweeted at MP? [19:57]
thestringpuller ;;ident [19:59]
gribble Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified. [19:59]
thestringpuller damn [19:59]
thestringpuller ;;eauth [19:59]
gribble (eauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. [19:59]
thestringpuller ;;eauth thestringpuller [19:59]
gribble Request successful for user thestringpuller, hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0FF2943DA179E169 [19:59]
thestringpuller ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:f402d5aedc0aca6dfef9d0d658f4b79acf400e99872a09f553dce778 [20:01]
gribble You are now authenticated for user thestringpuller with key 0FF2943DA179E169 [20:01]
thestringpuller ;;ident [20:01]
gribble Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None [20:01]
thestringpuller ;;rate ThickAsThieves 2 Has good taste in hip-hop. [20:01]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user ThickAsThieves has been recorded. [20:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00441573 = 0.1766 BTC [-] [20:02]
cgcardona so I've been thinking about a group of SuperUsers called 'The church of Sudo', 'The Cult of the SuperUser', and/or 'Order of Root'. Also known as 'The Web' -- I thought that the WoT/+v could be an interesting real world model as well. So a person shows up at the SuperUser underground lair and has to sign a message w/ their key and then retina scan/fingerprint to get access. [20:03]
BigBitz Hip Hop, you say. [20:04]
BigBitz Wu Tang Clan or gtfo. [20:04]
* assbot removes voice from Micon [20:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 290 @ 0.00594957 = 1.7254 BTC [-] {19} [20:05]
cgcardona BREAM [20:05]
cgcardona (bitcoin rules everything around me) [20:05]
cgcardona get the bitcoins! satoshi-satoshis y'all! [20:05]
BigBitz Lol. [20:05]
thestringpuller cgcardona: it's get the hashes, crypto-crypto coin [20:06]
cgcardona nice [20:06]
* pactr has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [20:06]
thestringpuller gpg rules everything around me GREAM [20:06]
thestringpuller ;;google wu-tang clan ain't nuttin to fuck wit [20:06]
gribble Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nothing To Fuck With - Wu Tang Clan - YouTube: ; Wu Tang Clan - Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nuthin' To Fuck With - YouTube: ; Wu Tang Clan Ain't nothing to fuck with - YouTube: [20:06]
* pactr (~pactr@gateway/tor-sasl/captr) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:07]
moiety cgcardona: here-in lay the super users tho, i doubt they will move [20:07]
cgcardona moiety: you mean you doubt they'll meet up afk? [20:07]
moiety o i see what you mean now. that's a bit tricky when everyone is scattered [20:08]
thestringpuller not really [20:08]
thestringpuller why would someone meet in person? [20:08]
thestringpuller it's dangerous [20:08]
cgcardona ummm sex [20:08]
thestringpuller a super group in one place at one time? [20:08]
moiety conferences and such [20:08]
cgcardona jk [20:08]
thestringpuller a well placed bomb takes em all out [20:08]
cgcardona there are lots of reasons to meet in person [20:08]
thestringpuller not for long periods of time or very often [20:09]
cgcardona well I'm assuming the SuperUser underground lair is a safe haven for all [20:09]
thestringpuller imo at least [20:09]
moiety but thing is, if people go to the effort of getting plane tickets etc, they tend to have passports and stuff? you don't really squat a plane ticket/meet up [20:09]
thestringpuller that requires you to trust the proprietor of the underground lair [20:09]
cgcardona and sure the meetings would never be too long. [20:09]
cgcardona thestringpuller: several people just met up w/ MP in romaina [20:09]
moiety so you want people to pay a lot for travel for a short assed meet up? [20:09]
cgcardona *Romani [20:09]
cgcardona oh geez [20:09]
moiety seems legit [20:09]
cgcardona you know what I mean [20:09]
thestringpuller cgcardona: MP had security... [20:09]
thestringpuller has* [20:10]
cgcardona and you think the owner of the SuperUser underground lair wouldn't (this is all hypothetical) [20:10]
cgcardona i'm suggesting the people who show up would trust the proprieter of the lair [20:10]
moiety and so why would they need to scan their eyeballs? [20:10]
cgcardona moiety: I'm also suggesting that price doesn't matter to this group of people [20:10]
moiety but time, probably will ^ [20:10]
cgcardona moiety: well the keys would confirm they are the digital person and the fingerprint/eyes would prove they are the human behind the keys [20:11]
cgcardona moiety: yes time matters far more than btc [20:11]
thestringpuller cgcardona: i imagine that secret society meetings never happen in the same place twice for good reason [20:11]
moiety purpose of these meet-ups being business or social? [20:11]
* Skirmant_ is now known as Skirmant [20:12]
cgcardona thestringpuller: yes and no - there are online documentation of 'secret societies' which meet up yearly in the same place. but yea they aren't really secret. Real secret societies probably do meet up in different places each time [20:12]
moiety hell why not get a secret handshake in there too [20:12]
cgcardona moiety: prob both. but I'm imagining SuperUsers are mostly business [20:12]
cgcardona moiety: done (secret TCP handshake added) [20:12]
moiety :] [20:13]
thestringpuller I would expect SuperUsers to have a mobile brothel for "socializing" [20:14]
cgcardona yes I would as well [20:14]
thestringpuller i don't trust femme fatales [20:14]
danielpbarron if Bitcoin gets to the point where I can't spend it unless I have a mark on my hand or forehead, that's when I divest from Bitcoin and start street preaching [20:15]
thestringpuller !bash 1 [20:16]
assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/2BR5YF9/plain/) [20:16]
thestringpuller Bitcoin becomes the end times ~_~ [20:17]
thestringpuller Christians would go fanatical over that... [20:18]
danielpbarron i'm not sure yet; it could be the good money that the beast tries to suppress with his mark [20:18]
bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/02/hurting-the-poor-by-helping-them/ [20:20]
cgcardona What do you guys/gals think of darkwallet ? [20:20]
ozbot Hurting The Poor, By Helping Them | When Bitcoin Met Pete [20:20]
cgcardona it's got hella buzz right now [20:20]
danielpbarron cgcardona: i think i wasted $25 on its kickstarter :/ [20:21]
cgcardona i've been watching a bunch of cody wilson interviews over the last couple of days and it's an interesting idea [20:21]
bitcoinpete cgcardona: decent enough idea, if taint were a problem [20:21]
cgcardona danielpbarron: why? you think its vaporware? [20:21]
bitcoinpete and taaki weren't involved [20:21]
* Diablo-D3 (~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-70-20-36-102.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:21]
danielpbarron cgcardona: taaki [20:21]
dexX7 bitcoinpete: Error establishing a database connection [20:21]
dexX7 ah a refresh did it [20:21]
bitcoinpete ;;google trilema bitcoin taint [20:21]
gribble Guidance : There Is No Such Thing As Bitcoin Taint. pe Trilema - Un ...: ; On July 29, 1914 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: [20:21]
cgcardona yea people seem to be down on him but I've not met him before. [20:21]
bitcoinpete dexX7: phew [20:22]
dexX7 hehe ;) [20:22]
cgcardona wow the Trilema header changed [20:22]
cgcardona no more monopoly money?! [20:22]
bitcoinpete cgcardona: i still see monopoly [20:23]
dexX7 clear your cache [20:23]
cgcardona bitcoinpete: I'm seeing http://imgur.com/5e6LSSG [20:24]
danielpbarron i liked the old one, but it wasn't the most aesthetically pleasing design [20:24]
cgcardona well the old one had such a good message w/ the monopoly money [20:25]
danielpbarron ya [20:25]
bitcoinpete cgcardona: slightly more frightening, slightly less tongue-in-cheek [20:25]
cgcardona yea I wonder who did the drawing? [20:26]
bitcoinpete "Truthcoin is my ambitious project to create a trustless P2P prediction-marketplace. This is possible because, unlike most marketplaces, the end product of a prediction market (PM) is information." [20:27]
bitcoinpete "The end result is the first of its kind: a market for actual prediction-commodities, which have a value based on their accuracy and not based on the behaviour of any administrator, rival trader, or counterparty." [20:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00096958 = 11.7804 BTC [+] {2} [20:27]
bitcoinpete "Contract outcomes are determined in a trustless and decentralized way, through a weighted vote based on present and past consensus with a unique Nash Equilibrium where all voters report accurately on the state of markets." [20:27]
bitcoinpete https://github.com/psztorc/Truthcoin < [20:28]
* SatoshiJack has quit (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )) [20:30]
* trixisowned (~lol111lll@71-211-249-51.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.07145013 = 1.429 BTC [+] [20:40]
thestringpuller can we just exile these n00bs to an island and do battle royale? [20:44]
thestringpuller the ones who survive get to do useful shit? y/n? [20:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.03318207 = 0.5641 BTC [+] [20:47]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell Micon The practical reason to register with Gribble and the WoT at the moment is to get self voicing privileges passed to you. [20:49]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:49]
bitcoinpete Nic Cary , the CEO of Blockchain.info, interviews Fereshteh Forough and Roya Mahboob about the Women's Annex Foundation initiative which helps and supports women through education and technology, starting from Afghanistan. The content providers on the Women's Annex platform are getting paid with the Digital Currency Bitcoin which allow them to finance their expenses and costs easily without facing problems with the banking system an [20:55]
bitcoinpete transaction fees. [20:55]
bitcoinpete http://www.filmannex.com/movie/blockchain-ceo-nicolas-cary-talks-with-roya-mahboob-and-fereshteh-forough-of-womens-annex-on-how-bitcoin-supports-women-in-developing-countries/43868 [20:55]
ozbot Blockchain CEO Nicolas Cary talks with Roya Mahboob and Fereshteh Forough of Women's Annex on how Bi [20:55]
bitcoinpete worst url [20:56]
thestringpuller bitcoinpete is better than the lamestream media [21:02]
bitcoinpete thestringpuller: this is exactly the point [21:04]
bitcoinpete conversations, news, this channel has it all [21:05]
bitcoinpete So the financial post, out of toronto, has a weekly feature on an older couple and their preparedness for retirement [21:06]
bitcoinpete this week's couple has saved $2.7M and the post decided that this was only 2/5 stars of readiness [21:07]
bitcoinpete which i think is fair given inflation and a few decades of travel, etc [21:07]
bitcoinpete my buddy thinks that this is "so out of touch because if I am reading this, with no savings, I wonder what the entire point is. it should at least add a context." [21:08]
bitcoinpete except no one with savings reads the fucking financial post article on retirement [21:09]
bitcoinpete they read the rags or they watch tv or facebook [21:09]
bitcoinpete *no one without [21:09]
bitcoinpete people think that we should cater everything to some imaginary poor person who might be offended. c'mon now [21:11]
thestringpuller ;;gettrust bitcoinpete [21:11]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@unaffiliated/bitcoinpete. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user bitcoinpete: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=bitcoinpete | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoinpete | Rated since: Fri Mar 28 09:14:47 2014 [21:11]
thestringpuller nice [21:11]
* CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qrbkfnmrixljipqp) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:14]
bitcoinpete ooo http://bitcoinjobfair.com today! [21:14]
thestringpuller I kinda want to apply at bitpay because they are nearby [21:16]
thestringpuller no need to relocate just change my commute [21:16]
thestringpuller and they would pay me in bitcoin... [21:16]
thestringpuller God that sounds fucking appealing as shit :( [21:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4799 BTC [+] [21:25]
chetty http://www.cato.org/blog/new-frontiers-regulatory-overreach? [21:27]
ozbot New Frontiers in Regulatory Overreach | Cato @ Liberty [21:27]
bitcoinpete chetty: vancouver is very pro-bear [21:30]
* mjr_ (~Thunderbi@190.141.140.49) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:30]
bitcoinpete they used to have an nba basketball team called the grizzlies [21:30]
bitcoinpete the bear lobby is not one to be messed with [21:31]
Apocalyptic can someone recommend a relevant venue for following financial news ? [21:31]
bitcoinpete Apocalyptic: https://twitter.com/WSJCentralBanks [21:34]
chetty Suggests Full Employment Could Be Reached In Six Months ---hmm does that count all those that have quit looking? [21:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07136398 = 0.785 BTC [-] {2} [21:45]
* daybyter (~andreas@88-134-47-207-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:49]
fluffypony http://blog.btcjam.com/post/84570971322/peer-to-peer-lending-will-change-developing-countries [21:54]
fluffypony BTCJam have good ideas, they just have no clue how to bring it to fruition [21:55]
bitcoinpete fluffypony: implementation requires more formality and skill than btcjam and others imagine [21:56]
fluffypony yeah [21:56]
bitcoinpete p2p lending is sold as if it works iteself [21:56]
fluffypony also people in developing countries don't have an eBay or PayPal account [21:56]
Apocalyptic btcjam is more like a p2p scamming last I heard [21:56]
fluffypony which precludes their using BTCJam [21:56]
bitcoinpete "developing countries" are plenty developed and sustainable w/o our garbage [21:57]
kakobrekla its not implementation, its the bitcoin appreciation and volatility that makes this doa [21:57]
bitcoinpete fluffypony: see my last blog ;) [21:57]
bitcoinpete kakobrekla: that's part of their implementation, neh? [21:58]
kakobrekla hows that? [21:58]
bitcoinpete Apocalyptic: pretty much [21:58]
fluffypony kakobrekla: BTC can be used purely as the medium of exchange, pegged to the local exchange rate, if the lenders aren't long on Bitcoin [21:58]
kakobrekla most of the loans that are taken get converted into fiat, meaning autofucked [21:59]
kakobrekla how are you going to fix this with implementation [21:59]
kakobrekla meh medium of exchange gtfo [21:59]
fluffypony why not? [22:00]
fluffypony not everyone is long on Bitcoin, it's not a prerequisite for its use [22:00]
benkay fluffypony: you're starting to sound a lot like the20year [22:02]
* fluffypony shrugs [22:02]
benkay "i'm just providing a vehicle for people to go short btc!" [22:02]
bitcoinpete fluffypony: i'd argue that it's too big of a pain to use for a long position to not be a pre-req [22:03]
fluffypony bitcoinpete: ok but let's focus on the lending space - at the moment there is already a thriving p2p micro-lending market in some countries, mostly unregulated. The problem is that the cost of transacting makes it impossible for people outside of that country to get involved. [22:07]
fluffypony that also means that lenders don't need to know much more than how to get money on to BitStamp and then withdraw the BTC to their [insert loan site here] account [22:11]
fluffypony and the reverse for repayments [22:11]
* assbot gives voice to dignork [22:12]
dignork fluffypony: micro-lending shop will face the same problem with BTC funding - they have to go short on BTC since they provide loans in fiat [22:13]
fluffypony dignork: yep, I think I'm talking purely about using BTC as a way of getting around the cross-border issues [22:13]
bounce do you have any reason to assume microlending to faraway countries will go any better than loaning on irc or whatwasthatsiteagain? [22:17]
benkay fluffypony: the real issue is that microloans have a pretty bad return, what with having to chase anonymous poverty-ensnared people all over their shithole country/favela [22:17]
fluffypony benkay: I fully agree on that [22:17]
benkay remittances, though... [22:18]
fluffypony I'm not suggesting that microlending to Malawians is ultra-profitable (or at all) [22:18]
benkay fuck lending. [22:18]
benkay do remittances. [22:18]
benkay a BTC operation doing remittances would slay. [22:18]
benkay i want to get some skin into the remittance game, but haven't figured out how to. [22:19]
fluffypony benkay: TagPesa seem to have that in the bag...just a pity about their involvement with Seedcoin II: The Wrath of Seedz [22:19]
benkay just because someone's doing it doesn't mean to not do it. [22:19]
fluffypony sure [22:19]
fluffypony we spoke about this today in fact [22:19]
fluffypony http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-05-2014#657090 [22:20]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [22:20]
benkay i'd take an entirely different tack [22:20]
benkay gotta be quick 'cause i'm on my way to a walk [22:20]
benkay but [22:20]
benkay go somewhere with a serious expat community in the habit of sending money home, make friends in that group, figure out what it's costing to get money where they need it moved, and then move it with btc. [22:21]
benkay but start small, none of this raise capital and scale crap [22:21]
benkay one person in each of two cities doing the changing [22:22]
benkay expand the network from there. [22:22]
fluffypony yeah, that's precisely what TagPesa is has done with the South Sudanese expats living in Australia [22:22]
fluffypony s/is has/has [22:23]
benkay it's a pretty high touch approach, which is why i'd expect to be able to carve out a niche in the space [22:23]
benkay like [22:23]
benkay the pines and cruise lines [22:23]
benkay phillipines* [22:23]
benkay anyways [22:23]
benkay walk o'clock [22:23]
fluffypony have fun [22:24]
chetty benkay: > argentina [22:24]
fluffypony http://it.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/24gknv/im_jesse_eisinger_a_pulitzerwinning_financial/ch6wfib [22:29]
fluffypony http://reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/24gknv/im_jesse_eisinger_a_pulitzerwinning_financial/ch6wfib [22:30]
fluffypony "Bitcoin is a mad, technoutopian fever dream that will end in tears, if it hasn't already." [22:30]
fluffypony - Jesse Eisinger, Pulitzer-winning financial reporter [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24701 @ 0.00096676 = 23.8799 BTC [-] {4} [22:30]
* zoinky has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:30]
dignork Localbitcoins got p0wned through social engineering: http://localbitcoins.blogspot.fi/2014/05/attack-against-localbitcoins.html [22:35]
* bitcoinpete has quit (Quit: bitcoinpete) [22:36]
* aegis (~aegis@162.219.176.122) has left #bitcoin-assets [22:40]
* joecool has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:44]
kakobrekla oh my. [22:52]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593815.0 [22:52]
ozbot Overstock.com CEO interested in NXT asset exchange [22:52]
kakobrekla >>I do not know NXT, but I am interested in finding (and even potentially investing in) efforts to create a peer-to-peer capital market. In fact, if a good solution emerges, you might even see Overstock be the first issuer of a stock or bond in such a market, just to help things get going! (Incidentally, we were the first to do a Dutch auction IPO, for precisely that reason.) [22:52]
fluffypony kakobrekla: so they're going to lend legitimacy to all the scammy DACs [22:53]
fluffypony great [22:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.07594902 = 3.1139 BTC [+] {9} [22:54]
* bitcoinpete (~bitcoinpe@unaffiliated/bitcoinpete) has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:54]
kakobrekla oh my, dac. [22:55]
cgcardona ;;ticker [22:56]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 432.45, Best ask: 434.5, Bid-ask spread: 2.05000, Last trade: 434.5, 24 hour volume: 7518.22015233, 24 hour low: 431.0, 24 hour high: 455.78, 24 hour vwap: 443.02536701 [22:56]
* venzen has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [22:59]
* bitcoinpete has quit (Quit: bitcoinpete) [23:01]
* andreas (~andreas@88-134-47-207-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:09]
* andreas has quit (Client Quit) [23:12]
* andreas (~andreas@88-134-47-207-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:13]
* DiabloD3 (~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-70-20-36-102.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:14]
dexX7 wasn't nxt abandoned? [23:14]
* andreas has quit (Client Quit) [23:15]
fluffypony dexX7: I gave up following the altcoin drama [23:15]
dexX7 hehe [23:15]
dexX7 yea, there is probably too much [23:15]
moiety drama on teh interwebz? never! [23:15]
fluffypony every time a coin dev disappears then someone picks up the reigns and "relaunches" it [23:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00097106 = 8.0598 BTC [+] {2} [23:16]
fluffypony and then the original dev reappears [23:16]
dexX7 some could call this improvement [23:16]
fluffypony and the relaunch is abandoned [23:16]
dexX7 okay, not this hehe [23:16]
* daybyter has quit (*.net *.split) [23:16]
* Diablo-D3 has quit (*.net *.split) [23:16]
fluffypony lol [23:16]
moiety there was a right mess with those tox devs [23:16]
* joecool (~joecool@no-sources/joecool) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:17]
* daybyter (~andreas@88-134-47-207-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:17]
* saulimus (~someone@mobile-internet-bcee2e-144.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:20]
* Duffer1 (~Duffer1@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:24]
* nick1234abcd_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [23:28]
BingoBoingo http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/05/03/shawn_hogan_ceo_of_digital_point_solutions_and_former_ebay_affiliated_marketer.html [23:29]
ozbot Shawn Hogan, CEO of Digital Point Solutions and former eBay affiliated marketer, is sentenced to $25 [23:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 101 @ 0.00649284 = 0.6558 BTC [-] {5} [23:29]
* nick1234abcd_ (sid26299@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ldgwvpvulntlnour) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:29]
mircea_popescu soo [23:31]
mircea_popescu yo Micon [23:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00097187 = 2.3325 BTC [+] [23:31]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: damn, that case took forever [23:33]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: Good ones do. My disorderly conduct case has now exceeded a year in length. [23:33]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: disorderly conduct? tl;dr / blog post? [23:34]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves im not sure i get what you're asking there. [23:34]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: I don't like to comment much on the pending case other than, allegedly some political speech was said. [23:35]
* frank1e (~frank1e@unaffiliated/frank1e) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:35]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: time to move to South Africa, we're not particularly litigious [23:36]
mircea_popescu !up frank1e [23:36]
assbot Voicing frank1e for 30 minutes. [23:36]
* assbot gives voice to frank1e [23:36]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: When I jump ship I'm looking more towards south or central america. [23:36]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: do they have baseball there? [23:37]
fluffypony :-P [23:37]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: Of course. Many of the great players come from the region and many of the US players play in their Winter leagues as well. [23:37]
fluffypony yeah better deal than South Africa from that perspective then [23:38]
fluffypony we have lions and tigers and sunsets and stuff [23:38]
BingoBoingo Also I can kinda speak spanish. Also less aids and Ebola. [23:39]
mircea_popescu cgcardona: why oh why doesn't nickserv turn ENFORCE on by default? << because security should not be the default ? [23:40]
cgcardona really? what are your thoughts there? [23:40]
cgcardona seems like security should be the default [23:41]
* smidge has quit (Quit: sorry, but you've mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck...) [23:41]
mircea_popescu why ? [23:42]
mircea_popescu there's nothing default about security. [23:43]
mircea_popescu for that matter, children are born naked. you clothe them after. [23:43]
BingoBoingo cgcardona: You have to realize a lot of non-Bitcoin freenode is tech support for a lot of projects, and... If they locked out every name forever, it would be a pain coming up with unique names every time you don't care to remember a password. [23:43]
BingoBoingo If you care about your name, you can work to keep it. [23:43]
mircea_popescu also this. [23:43]
cgcardona fair enough [23:43]
BingoBoingo Unique names are a non-trival problem in large networks. [23:45]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla "Speakers from the Bitcoin Foundation, Circle Internet Financial" << so much speaking these doods do. [23:45]
fluffypony we should start the Bitcoin Assets Foundation [23:46]
cgcardona Reggae band called 'The Bitcoin Groundation' [23:47]
BingoBoingo Foundations are dumb, except in the rare cases they aren't [23:47]
mircea_popescu in romanian, fund means ass, and foundation is "fundatie". so... [23:47]
fluffypony we can make Jimmothy an honorary member [23:47]
fluffypony the court jester, so to speak [23:48]
mircea_popescu did he start a bitcoin investment growth first ever fund yet or anything ? [23:48]
* bitcoinpete (~bitcoinpe@unaffiliated/bitcoinpete) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:48]
BingoBoingo Jimmothy can my honorary "chair" concerned with fundaments [23:48]
fluffypony I don't think he's done anything except make circuitous, confusing arguments and accuse everyone of being part of a cult [23:49]
* assbot gives voice to bitcoinpete [23:49]
fluffypony or that might be minerpart, I lose track [23:49]
pankkake I was going to reply to the latest jimmothy things but I forced myself not to [23:49]
pankkake I just can't into his brain [23:49]
mircea_popescu isnt minerpart the one that kept talking to people on btctalk like they were me ? [23:49]
BingoBoingo Yeah [23:49]
fluffypony pankkake: I also start typing replies to him and then give up, I don't actually have the time to waste [23:50]
pankkake well, the first one to do so was the NeoBee lover that got banned [23:50]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: he accuses everyone of either being you or "sucking MP's dick" [23:50]
fluffypony and then backtracks when it's clear that the person is not you [23:50]
mircea_popescu btw, did you know you can actually get a cock skin problem that's essentially... tegument digestion syndrome ? [23:51]
mircea_popescu apparently saliva has some digestive properties, and if you keep your cock in mouths for too many hours a day... well... [23:51]
BingoBoingo That doesn't sound pleasant... [23:51]
mircea_popescu indeed. [23:51]
* assbot gives voice to Duffer1 [23:51]
bitcoinpete http://miseschrist.com/2014/04/30/satoshi-revealed-an-inside-look-at-the-man-behind-bitcoin/ < [23:51]
ozbot Satoshi Revealed: An Inside Look at the Man behind Bitcoin | Mises Christ [23:51]
moiety Bitcoin Assnation seems pretty fitting [23:51]
mircea_popescu again ? [23:51]
bitcoinpete again [23:51]
fluffypony again. [23:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16272 @ 0.00097187 = 15.8143 BTC [+] [23:52]
mircea_popescu If chicken little tells you that the sky is fallin' [23:52]
mircea_popescu Even if it wasn't would you still come crawlin' [23:52]
mircea_popescu Back again [23:52]
mircea_popescu I bet you would my friend [23:52]
mircea_popescu Again & again & again & again & again [23:52]
* Sahtor has quit (Quit: Sahtor) [23:52]
BingoBoingo I'm pretty sure I would smoke the chicken on the grill. Chickens are better as food than as alarms. [23:54]
* TheNewDeal (~AndChat31@184.48.161.16) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:55]
mircea_popescu !up TheNewDeal [23:55]
assbot Voicing TheNewDeal for 30 minutes. [23:55]
* assbot gives voice to TheNewDeal [23:55]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo aerosmith song. [23:55]
TheNewDeal thanks [23:55]
mircea_popescu so who're you ? [23:55]
artifexd Remember TestingUnDosTres? He changed his nick to TheNewDeal. [23:56]
mircea_popescu oic. [23:56]
mircea_popescu better nick i say [23:56]
TheNewDeal yes indeed [23:56]
TheNewDeal Bitcoin, The New Deal [23:56]
* assbot gives voice to TheNewDeal [23:57]
TheNewDeal double voiced [23:57]
mircea_popescu !down TheNewDeal [23:58]
assbot mircea_popescu, you can't do that to TheNewDeal. [23:58]
mircea_popescu omg wh yshould he have two voices [23:58]
fluffypony double voice > double rainbow [23:58]
TheNewDeal unlimited power [23:59]
mircea_popescu http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=118 kik i like the danielpbarron kid [23:59]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets bash [23:59]
Category: Logs
Comments feed : RSS 2.0. Leave your own comment below, or send a trackback.
Add your cents! »
    If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed.