Forum logs for 05 May 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu suchwow-brb lmao [00:02]
mircea_popescu !up SuchWow-brb [00:02]
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SuchWow-brb heheh it's been an intense couple of hours with the nascar race [00:02]
SuchWow-brb back in 30 :) [00:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 168 @#64; 0.00297994 = 0.5006 BTC [+] [00:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @#64; 0.00084743 = 3.2626 BTC [+] [00:03]
kakobrekla is dogecar gonna win [00:03]
bitcoinpete kakobrekla: some chumps, yes [00:03]
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mircea_popescu !jd mpif [00:09]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.89572664 BTC; +0.00399293 BTC (+0.0024%) since last check 3h 50m 9s ago. [00:09]
mircea_popescu too insufficient small amount of number. [00:10]
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bitcoinpete "It appears that the most natural of all ways to classify humans genetically is by the racial and ethnic groups that humans have identified from time out of mind." [00:16]
bitcoinpete http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303380004579521482247869874 [00:16]
ozbot Book Review: 'A Troublesome Inheritance' by Nicholas Wade - WSJ.com [00:16]
mircea_popescu unsurprisingly. [00:18]
bitcoinpete to everyone except the nba [00:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @#64; 0.47511 = 0.9502 BTC [+] [00:23]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust bitcoingirl [00:25]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bitcoingirl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bitcoingirl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoingirl | Rated since: never [00:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6493 @#64; 0.00084444 = 5.4829 BTC [-] [00:27]
bitcoinpete whoa mpoe! [00:28]
bitcoinpete investors no like mpif? [00:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @#64; 0.0321191 = 0.5139 BTC [+] [00:29]
mircea_popescu seems it's been taking a beating yest [00:30]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @#64; 0.03389001 = 0.4745 BTC [+] {5} [00:31]
chetty http://cryptogeeks.com/bitcoin-american-express-sponsored-documentary-feels-more-commercial-bitcoin [00:32]
ozbot Bitcoin: This American Express sponsored documentary feels more like a commercial for Bitcoin. | cry [00:32]
mircea_popescu lol [00:32]
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mircea_popescu this channel rules << hehe [00:35]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @#64; 0.0764499 = 0.1529 BTC [+] {2} [00:35]
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bitcoinpete https://vine.co/v/M6ztmrVtBDj [00:40]
ozbot CRISTIANO RONALDO What-a-goal! Real-Valencia 2-2 [00:40]
bitcoinpete ronny be cray [00:41]
fluffypony cray cray [00:41]
bitcoinpete omg fucking greenaddress [00:42]
bitcoinpete http://blog.greenaddress.it/2014/04/30/reusing-addresses-is-bad-m-kay/ [00:42]
fluffypony "Not reusing addresses protects you from quantum computing" [00:43]
fluffypony l.o.l. the sequel. [00:43]
mircea_popescu wait wut [00:43]
mircea_popescu does mormon underwear protect you from quantum computing ? [00:43]
mircea_popescu "Not reusing addresses may prevent you to be exposed from undiscovered holes in ECDSA theory" [00:43]
mircea_popescu wlel... reusing addresses equally may prevent you from exposure to undiscovered holes. [00:44]
mircea_popescu what the fuck is this cargo cult nonsense. [00:44]
pankkake because quantum computing can break ECDSA, but cannot break RIPEMD-160? lel [00:44]
fluffypony pankkake: RIPEMD4lyf [00:44]
pankkake anyway >quantum computing. why even talk about it [00:44]
mircea_popescu not reusing addresses has major privacy implications : [00:44]
mircea_popescu it makes it feasible for your users to be tracked [00:44]
mircea_popescu and it makes it possible for the entire "taint" nonsense to even tenuously exist. [00:45]
mircea_popescu if you care about freedom, make sure you reuse at least some addresses. [00:45]
pankkake though I've tried to not associate some addresses with others, I'm sure some more advanced statistical anylisis would reveal them [00:45]
jurov then the analysis just moves on to transaction level [00:45]
danielpbarron bitcoinpete: lol @#64; greenaddress; I had a back-and-forth with them over that exact issue: https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/461889144667787266 [00:46]
mircea_popescu jurov notrly. [00:46]
bitcoinpete danielpbarron: lol just noticed that! [00:46]
bitcoinpete i was a little more blunt https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/463072062056452096 [00:47]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/463072372896333825 [00:47]
ozbot Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Attention #Bitcoin : contrary ... [00:47]
mircea_popescu halping out. [00:47]
jurov taint can be tracked by spent transaction inputs, addresses do not need to come into picture [00:48]
mircea_popescu except if you reuse addresses this becomes ambiguous. [00:48]
danielpbarron bitcoinpete: heh, i'd "favorite" your tweet, but I don't want to give twitter a reason to set my account to "login required to read" mode [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @#64; 0.00084429 = 13.8464 BTC [-] {3} [00:49]
mircea_popescu wait thats a mode ? how does it work ? [00:49]
danielpbarron mircea_popescu: the default setting for new users is to block "adult content" [00:49]
mircea_popescu o he's adsult ? [00:49]
danielpbarron and that default also applies to non-users [00:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3774 @#64; 0.00084242 = 3.1793 BTC [-] {2} [00:50]
danielpbarron it's vague, but I assume it means dropping f-bombs and posting nudes [00:50]
mircea_popescu !up bitcoingirl [00:50]
pankkake does it? perhaps because I'm blocking everything - javascript and cookies, I don't seem to have it [00:50]
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bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: wait, are you saying that reusing is good for privacy? [00:50]
bitcoingirl popescu - can I humbly ask you for a favor [00:50]
mircea_popescu shoot [00:50]
mircea_popescu bitcoingirl yes. [00:50]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete yes i mean. [00:50]
pankkake bitcoinpete: seems to me the real issue is merging inputs, regardless of the addresses. changing addresses will only confuse amateur investigators [00:51]
fluffypony ^^ [00:51]
jurov how ambiguous? when i withdraw from mpex, it spends Tx1, Tx2..Txn from one mpex address.. how it is different from spending them from different adresses? [00:51]
bitcoingirl https://blog.blockchain.com/2014/04/16/the-first-annual-blockchain-awards/ can you help me get votes for the "most insightful journalist" [00:51]
ozbot The First Annual Blockchain Awards | Blockchain Blog [00:51]
bitcoingirl this would be helpful for my career. was one of the first reporters in this industry [00:52]
mircea_popescu so i should what, pester cary ? [00:52]
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fluffypony bitcoinpete: not knowing which addresses were used to receive BTC is irrelevant when you are looking at it going out [00:53]
mircea_popescu !up GAit [00:53]
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GAit thanks mircea_popescu [00:53]
pankkake anyway, perhaps use a good client which supports multiple wallets if you want easy privacy [00:53]
mircea_popescu aha, well you heard the lady folks : pls to vote ms boring for the blockchain award. [00:54]
fluffypony yeah, agree with pankkake, separation of liabilities [00:54]
GAit bitcoinpete: hello [00:54]
bitcoinpete GAit: howdy [00:54]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: who must we vote for? I missed the bits further up [00:54]
GAit bitcoinpete: can i disturb you on a PM ? [00:54]
bitcoinpete GAit: green address, i presum? [00:54]
GAit bitcoinpete: yes [00:54]
mircea_popescu o is it ? [00:55]
bitcoingirl +fluffypony Perianne Boring, please [00:55]
bitcoinpete GAit: let's talk here [00:55]
GAit ok [00:55]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: ok done, I nominated you for best ATM design. [00:55]
GAit i wasn't sure this was appropriate for the channel, as long as others don't mind [00:55]
fluffypony (kidding) [00:55]
bitcoinpete GAit: this is a good conversation for everyone to see [00:56]
mircea_popescu fluffypony asshat :D [00:56]
GAit it is I agree, i generally like to read your blog [00:56]
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mircea_popescu GAit go ahead, you're voiced, you can talk. [00:56]
bitcoinpete GAit: so tell us why reusing addresses is bad, in your opinion [00:56]
bitcoingirl I did not create an ATM [00:56]
mircea_popescu bitcoingirl he's just being difficult :D [00:57]
bitcoingirl i know [00:57]
GAit i think reusing addresses is bad for privacy and exposes you to potential security risk in the implementation [00:57]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: I'm teasing, hence the "kidding" added after [00:57]
mircea_popescu GAit specifically. [00:57]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: here - http://i.imgur.com/nizKc8A.png [00:57]
GAit specifically privacy or security? [00:58]
mircea_popescu privacy. the security i understand [00:58]
GAit privacy alone is quite important but extra security is not bad [00:58]
mircea_popescu and it's factual : ecdsa is vulnerable to bad rngs. [00:58]
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GAit well privacy in the sense that if you tell too many people about your [reused] address then it is much easier to make sense, on a whole, of correlated transaction, especially if more people reuse [00:59]
mircea_popescu GAit what if you lie. [01:00]
GAit who lies? [01:00]
mircea_popescu well for instance, Naphex told me a funny story when we met yest. it went like this : [01:00]
mircea_popescu buncha poor romanian kids in some small romanian town got the check-only btc address app installed on their phones and went all over town claiming to be owning 1000s of btc. [01:01]
pankkake oh, your name is actually Boring. things are clearer now [01:01]
GAit check only-> watch only I presume? [01:01]
mircea_popescu yes [01:01]
GAit anyway, bitcoinpete, why would you go as far as calling it scam? good reasons or? [01:03]
bitcoinpete GAit scum != scam [01:03]
GAit sorry, lapsus [01:03]
GAit so why calling it scum? [01:04]
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GAit i actually like in general your criticism and your being skeptical [01:04]
mircea_popescu what got called scum ? i'm behind my reading. [01:04]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete called GAit scum on the Twitorz [01:04]
GAit https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/463072062056452096 [01:05]
ozbot Twitter / bitcoinpete: You guys are fucking scum. ... [01:05]
bitcoinpete GAit: basically that reusing doesn't have a place in bitcoin [01:05]
mircea_popescu oh. GAit well people sometimes overstate points on the internet. it's called cracked.com [01:05]
fluffypony technically he said you're fucking scum, GAit, if scum is a pretty person you could consider that a complement [01:05]
GAit mircea_popescu: i was trying to find if there was something bad we could improvwe [01:05]
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mircea_popescu GAit the problem is this : i'm pretty well convinced, and i suspect a lot of people here are similarly convinced, [01:05]
bounce complement or compliment? [01:06]
GAit bounce: compliment [01:06]
mircea_popescu that a campaign against reusing addresses is more a covert usg op than anything else. [01:06]
fluffypony bounce: good catch [01:06]
fluffypony I need another drink [01:06]
mircea_popescu now whether you're participating naively or not is up for grabs, but still. [01:06]
GAit mircea_popescu: you are saying we tried to get attention in the wrong way by mentioning our comptetitors reusing addresses? [01:07]
mircea_popescu no. [01:07]
peterl does reusing addresses cut down on blockchain bloat? [01:07]
mircea_popescu i am saying that the entire "don't reuse addresses" campaign is exactly the equiovalent of "pls to use openssh" or "pls to use tor before that" [01:07]
mircea_popescu or "pls to use whatever the gpg competitor was, i forgot" 20 years prior. [01:07]
bitcoinpete peterl: shouldn't [01:07]
GAit reusing increases bloat if i understand correctly as you have less to prune [01:07]
mircea_popescu reusing prevents efficient pruning. [01:07]
GAit yeah [01:08]
GAit a good point to add to the blog actually [01:08]
GAit thanks [01:08]
fluffypony peterl: not really...the current change address functionality is roughly analogous to creating fresh receive addresses every time you receive a transaction [01:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform chetty what was the gpg competitor nsa was pushing back i nthe day ? [01:08]
bounce clipper? [01:09]
fluffypony bounce: wasn't that the Microsoft Office assistant? [01:09]
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bounce "clippy", unless you're thinking of bob the dog [01:09]
peterl you mean the paperclip that gave tips on how to use winblows? [01:10]
GAit anyway, in general if you guys have any feedback i'm all ears [01:10]
GAit guys and gals [01:10]
bounce you now owe me some serious booze, by the by [01:10]
mircea_popescu lmao [01:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10494 @#64; 0.00084108 = 8.8263 BTC [-] {2} [01:10]
fluffypony peterl: yes! "It looks like you're trying to GPG sign this document. Would you like help with that?" [01:10]
peterl lol [01:10]
mircea_popescu bounce aye, skipjack. [01:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7206 @#64; 0.00083946 = 6.0491 BTC [-] [01:11]
bitcoinpete GAit: there's a place for address reuse and there's a place for new address generation [01:11]
* bounce tried to make a funny with "swordfish" in it, but failed [01:11]
GAit bitcoinpete: i don't really know anyonw in bitcoin-dev that is pro address reuse [01:11]
mircea_popescu so ? [01:11]
GAit it is not reccomanded [01:12]
mircea_popescu are you here looking for feedback or are you here to persuade ? [01:12]
bitcoinpete GAit: and quantum computing isn't a thing. it's cold fusion until proven otherwise [01:12]
bounce anybody still use coldfusion? even though it's apparently a better php. [01:12]
GAit quantum computer is theoretical and little practical so far, sure, i didn't say much more to that [01:12]
mircea_popescu bounce seems dead. [01:12]
mircea_popescu GAit do you understand the part where making statements about defenses against nonspecified attacks is hacky at best ? [01:13]
fluffypony lol [01:13]
mircea_popescu i mean that sort of shit probably flies in -otc, but this chan is grown ups. [01:13]
fluffypony bounce: wasn't there a major CF exploit last yearish that caused issues on a bunch of sites? [01:13]
GAit non specified attacks? [01:13]
mircea_popescu yes. [01:13]
GAit i specified the attaccks or problems. RNG is one [01:13]
GAit privacy is another [01:14]
mircea_popescu if quantum computing, then your teeth are probably not safe. because why would they be ? [01:14]
peterl my dad (a physicist) worked on quantum computing for a bit. It's more likely to succeed than cold fusion, but still many years off. [01:14]
GAit well by then i imagine a lot of encryption will use quanto techinques [01:14]
bitcoinpete GAit: i didn't say much more to that < [01:14]
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fluffypony GAit: it's like me saying not to use GreenAddress because of the risk of an exploit in Chrome/Java/JavaScript; until it happens or the attack surface is real it's pointless talking about it [01:14]
bounce quantum computing vs cold fusion, there's a bitbet [01:14]
GAit it is a widely discussed topics when talking about bitcoin and ecdsa [01:14]
mircea_popescu bounce one year term! [01:14]
bounce oh foo [01:14]
peterl oh, and people use cold fusion all the time, it just generates neutrons, not power [01:14]
bounce NO VISION [01:14]
GAit fluffypony: sure you can say that, but then you have little alternative to all common languages, maybe some hardware wallet [01:15]
mircea_popescu o.o [01:15]
mircea_popescu security by lack of alternative ?! [01:15]
fluffypony GAit: welcome to the world of S.NSA :-P [01:15]
kakobrekla afaik 'green address' as technical term implies reusing an address, which is funny. [01:15]
mircea_popescu which is also entirely an artefact of your own mind, as yo ucan make a webpage in fucking lisp ? [01:15]
bounce just add neutron-fueled fission, and you have a safe(-ish) reactor [01:15]
GAit we are already working on supporting two hw wallets [01:15]
GAit we are using a different way of 'greenaddressing' out of band, if you want greenaddress 2.0 [01:16]
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GAit we spoke to Jan, you know, the guy that coined the term [01:16]
mircea_popescu moving on to more interesting stuff. fluffypony you got a dc in your basement ? [01:16]
GAit he really liked the way it is applied in a out of the box way [01:16]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: no, got a warehouse with decent availability and average Internet tho [01:17]
GAit did you see the design document/white apper? [01:17]
mircea_popescu you moving anytime soon ? [01:17]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: not a chance [01:17]
mircea_popescu how would you feel about hosting a coupla rigs ? [01:17]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: sure, happy to talk about it [01:17]
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fluffypony GAit: when are you guys going to support RFC 1149? [01:18]
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fluffypony I think it's an important piece of functionality missing from almost all implementations [01:18]
mircea_popescu too fucking evil. [01:19]
peterl bounce: so you control the rate of fission by the amount of power you put into the neutron-generating fusion? [01:19]
bitcoinpete ;;google jan greenaddress [01:19]
gribble Does sending from a green address improve my anonymity ...: ; Green address – the solution to slow Bitcoin transactions? - CoinDesk: ; GreenAddress: open source multisig wallet service - Bitcoin (1 more message) [01:19]
GAit fluffypony: nah, we are too busy on http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4824, which is much much better [01:20]
fluffypony so they tell me :) [01:20]
mircea_popescu flagpoles harder to get than birds. [01:21]
GAit fluffypony: what you never tried it? come on where do you live? [01:21]
fluffypony GAit: we have 6 dogs, pigeons don't last long around here [01:22]
GAit so you trying fiber now? [01:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @#64; 0.06474168 = 0.259 BTC [-] [01:22]
fluffypony yep, I've found a healthy serving of oats gives me all the fibre I need [01:22]
GAit so what do you guys do? anyone coming to amsterdam? [01:24]
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mircea_popescu maybe ThickAsThieves [01:24]
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bitcoinpete i gotta jet. [01:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @#64; 0.00083944 = 9.1499 BTC [-] {2} [01:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @#64; 0.034 = 0.136 BTC [+] [01:25]
bitcoinpete GAit: good of you to drop by for a chat [01:25]
bitcoinpete hopefully you'll consider what you've learned here [01:25]
bounce ouch [01:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2836 @#64; 0.00083928 = 2.3802 BTC [-] [01:26]
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mircea_popescu Random twitter self-absorbed priss : This website wants to feature me as a "Hot Babe”. Should I do it? [01:32]
mircea_popescu Me : You done nudes yet ? [01:32]
mircea_popescu Her : No, and I never will. [01:32]
mircea_popescu Me : Then pretty much nobody cares. You wanna play a sport, might as well go pro or else forget about it. [01:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 69 @#64; 0.00200021 = 0.138 BTC [-] {4} [01:32]
fluffypony heh [01:34]
fluffypony Pro Stripping [01:34]
fluffypony olympic level [01:34]
mircea_popescu did they succeed making pole dancing an olympic sport yet ? [01:34]
fluffypony don't think so [01:35]
pankkake I stumbled on some pole dancing websites, it was entertaining. I mean, it was so serious and all. Though the erotic aspect wasn't stupidly downplayed [01:37]
mircea_popescu pankkake belly dancing can also get quite serious [01:37]
mircea_popescu heck, for that matter even barbecuing [01:37]
bounce srsly eerotic [01:37]
pankkake well, I have a belly button fetish, so. :) [01:37]
fluffypony I dated a Greek girl who was a serious belly dancer, she ended up starting her own school [01:38]
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fluffypony was sexy for a bit, but she was too serious about it [01:38]
pankkake ahah [01:38]
fluffypony I just wanted pre-sex wiggling, not a history lesson [01:38]
mircea_popescu slaves do a better job at it anyway [01:38]
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mircea_popescu http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ << check it out, according to kakobrekla a new week has started, but not a new day. [01:40]
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ozbot #bitcoin-assets stats [01:40]
fluffypony kako-time [01:40]
mircea_popescu it bellydances. [01:41]
fluffypony lol [01:41]
kakobrekla it probably has to do with the code. [01:41]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [01:42]
mircea_popescu !b 5 [01:42]
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mircea_popescu !b 9 [01:42]
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Namworld By last 12 months I rank high, but lately I rank low. [01:45]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/GpIAwwo.jpg [01:45]
mircea_popescu haha good 1 [01:47]
Namworld fluffypony, you've chat as much in the last 30 days as I did in the last 12 months. [01:47]
mircea_popescu !up lolstate [01:47]
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lolstate pop-up mf [01:47]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot lolstate [01:47]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user lolstate: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=lolstate | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=lolstate | Rated since: never [01:47]
mircea_popescu gotta get wot. [01:47]
Namworld And mircea, you've chat more than assbot lately, you might have an addiction problem [01:48]
mircea_popescu is it addiction when you do it a lot or when yo ucan't stop ? [01:48]
lolstate Gribble? [01:49]
lolstate Again? [01:49]
Namworld Hence "might" [01:49]
lolstate We were friends! [01:49]
fluffypony Namworld: just noticed that now - maybe I have an addiction too :-P [01:50]
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kakobrekla test [01:52]
kakobrekla !b 1 [01:52]
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kakobrekla kay [01:52]
bounce that's a keeper [01:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 98 @#64; 0.00199997 = 0.196 BTC [-] {4} [01:53]
fluffypony so now it strips the !b line out and links correctly? [01:53]
fluffypony oh nm it's just the links [01:54]
kakobrekla !mp http://dpaste.com/3TS4ZK5.txt [01:54]
assbot Processing. [01:54]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @#64; 0.07649999 = 0.153 BTC [+] {2} [01:55]
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mircea_popescu le cool [01:56]
mircea_popescu basically dpaste broke their api ? [01:56]
kakobrekla changed some stuff apparently [01:56]
mircea_popescu yeah [01:56]
bounce stable apis are so 1.0 [01:56]
kakobrekla looks like they figured txt files are the way to go [01:57]
fluffypony bounce: ikr, who needs them [01:57]
mircea_popescu +like upvote retweet to that. [01:57]
bounce retweet the like? [01:58]
fluffypony in fact, you should just announce breaking API changes on Twitter and hope everyone catches it [01:58]
bounce put it on your facebook wall. then set it private. [01:58]
mircea_popescu the irony of "walls" [01:59]
* bounce is tempted to publish all the specs exclusively on gopher [01:59]
lolstate I’m going to through out what may be a trivial question (at first glance): what is up with Neobee?? ! [01:59]
lolstate TAT? [01:59]
lolstate MP? [01:59]
lolstate Me? [01:59]
lolstate Danny? [01:59]
lolstate Quesions, eh? [01:59]
fluffypony lolstate: dead in the water, Danny on the lam [01:59]
mircea_popescu seems dead no ? [01:59]
mircea_popescu !t h neobeeq [01:59]
lolstate lam? [02:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00001261 / 1.302E-5 / 0.00001700 (13739 shares, 0.17890927 BTC), 7D: 0.00001261 / 2.211E-5 / 0.00006970 (197924 shares, 4.37667709 BTC), 30D: 0.00001261 / 0.00011853 / 0.00045000 (796909 shares, 94.45738272 BTC) [02:00]
fluffypony ;;google define lam [02:00]
gribble Lam - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: ; Lam | Define Lam at Dictionary.com: ; On the lam | Define On the lam at Dictionary.com: [02:00]
fluffypony "on the lam, escaping, fleeing, or hiding, especially from the police" [02:00]
lolstate boring [02:01]
lolstate ‘lam’ isn’t analysis or any where close to an explanation! [02:01]
mircea_popescu aren't you like... months late for that ? [02:01]
lolstate what? a kick in the mouth? or… ? [02:01]
fluffypony ok analysis: Danny is a thief and was the only one who controlled all the monies. now he's run away with the monies or many spent it all on a lavish lifestyle. the company has collapsed and disbanded, and the police want to talk to Danny. [02:02]
fluffypony fin. [02:02]
lolstate Explnation for recent failure, maybe? [02:02]
lolstate fluffy: that is shallow [02:02]
mircea_popescu lolstate bring something to the table. [02:02]
lolstate clearly, he wasn’t a thief a priori [02:03]
fluffypony ok here [02:03]
benkay ... spent it all on a lavish lifestyle. << a shame, considering...btc. [02:03]
mircea_popescu clearly uh. [02:03]
fluffypony lolstatel: start here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/232v5n/the_full_picture_from_danny_brewster/ then go here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23cjd9/the_full_picture_of_former_neo_bee_employees/ then go here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23e0if/neo_bee_a_consultants_perspective_and_statement/ then go here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23cp8h/my_take_on_what_happened_with_neo_bee_after/ [02:03]
mircea_popescu #bitcoin-assets rules of style : omit all sentences that start with clearly. [02:03]
mircea_popescu they'll get ignored anyway, might as well save the electrons [02:03]
ThickAsThieves catching up on logs after attending a local festival [02:04]
ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> anyway, the deal would be : you go to whatever bitcoin conferences you feel like, i'll cover your entrance fee. you talk to people, explain stuff to them. //// mah job! [02:04]
bounce what? since when're you turning greenpeace? [02:04]
bounce "save the electrons", sheesh. [02:04]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you srsly want it ? [02:04]
lolstate fluffy: yeah, saw that [02:04]
fluffypony lolstate: how do you get he wasn't a thief prior? has he been a personal friend you've known his whole life? [02:04]
lolstate fluufy: don’r be flippant. A priori, every human is honest [02:05]
fluffypony because evidence seems to point that he was dirty, or at the very least incompetent, and this is another in a string of failures / duck-and-run jobs [02:05]
lolstate yaya [02:05]
mircea_popescu !down lolstate [02:05]
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mircea_popescu enough of that. [02:05]
benkay lolstate: you miss the part where in btc, everyone has to prove they're not a thief first. [02:05]
benkay via...wot. [02:05]
benkay and even then, that's an extremely weak 'proof'. [02:06]
bounce that an open offer? though as a matter of style one might better sneak in bitcoin foundation gigs and possibly get thrown out in front of cameras [02:06]
mircea_popescu fucking noobs, gonna control the flow of conversation nao. wtf is happening in these people's heads. [02:06]
benkay this is what we're working towards. not that 'anyone's not a scammer until they are', but that ther are grownups in the space, and either you deal with them or they fuck off. [02:06]
benkay or *you* fuck off. [02:06]
benkay !up lolstate [02:07]
assbot Voicing lolstate for 30 minutes. [02:07]
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lolstate ta [02:07]
mircea_popescu bounce i don't really believe in half measures. im either sending in people with automatic rifles, or not at all. [02:07]
benkay mircea_popescu: he ain't no worse than tib. [02:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @#64; 0.00084173 = 15.9087 BTC [+] {2} [02:07]
benkay possibly educable. [02:07]
mircea_popescu benkay hey, you can put up with it, by all means. [02:07]
benkay anyways lolstate from a statistical perspective, every btc operation is a scam, and every operator a priori a thief. [02:08]
lolstate MP, why the Ceaușescu move? It is unbecoming. [02:08]
fluffypony sweet, CloudFlare have published their SSL config for nginx: https://github.com/cloudflare/sslconfig/ [02:08]
mircea_popescu lolstate try and learn from what's happening to you, fucktard [02:08]
mircea_popescu rather than herping along, calling things names. [02:08]
benkay lolstate: !up and !down are part of the variety speak. [02:09]
lolstate MP, grow up and discuss…. let’s discuss your role in Neobee [02:09]
benkay oh do tell [02:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @#64; 0.07514414 = 0.9017 BTC [-] {2} [02:10]
ThickAsThieves ok i'm caught up [02:10]
fluffypony his...role? [02:10]
lolstate Well, MP, what’s with all the trolling and black arts against Neobee and others… [02:10]
ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves you srsly want it ? /// well, i'm down for a test drive in Amsterdam next week [02:10]
benkay calling a scam a scam = black arts these days [02:10]
benkay or a derp a derp [02:10]
ThickAsThieves i have full intention of providing "coverage" [02:11]
lolstate Neobee turned out bad, clearly, what about the others that have not, yet you desire to do so? [02:11]
benkay nobody's desires matter, lolstate [02:11]
ThickAsThieves and intend to start bugging you guys for help with questions and plans [02:11]
bounce shamelessly copying: http://i.imgur.com/OvAcLrb.jpg [02:11]
lolstate MP’s desire, TAT! [02:11]
ThickAsThieves huh? [02:11]
lolstate MP’s desire to bad mouth legimitate rivals! [02:12]
ThickAsThieves no [02:12]
lolstate No? [02:12]
fluffypony neo&bee was a legitimate rival of mpex? [02:12]
ThickAsThieves you are in bakwards world [02:12]
benkay badmouthing doesn't matter, lolstate [02:12]
fluffypony da fuq. [02:12]
benkay if it matters, the foundations are unsound to begin with. [02:12]
ThickAsThieves lolstate, speak like an adult or we'll have your tongue [02:12]
bounce ;;ident lolstate [02:12]
gribble Nick 'lolstate', with hostmask 'lolstate!~lolstate@#64;cpc16-broo8-2-0-cust783.14-2.cable.virginm.net', is not identified. [02:12]
benkay 'i'll huff and i'll puff and i'll derp you away!' [02:12]
lolstate TAT? Why did you cut from Neo? Was is Danny’s selling? [02:13]
lolstate *it*, I mean [02:13]
benkay sinking ship, lolstate . [02:13]
ThickAsThieves i gave a broad explanation for my severing ties the day i severed them [02:13]
ThickAsThieves i do not know if danny stole [02:13]
ThickAsThieves i'm not sure anyone does [02:14]
lolstate Te ship has sunk, benkay [02:14]
benkay lolstate: you miss the point. [02:14]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves so what you need ? [02:14]
benkay lolstate: when a ship is sinking, what do the occupants do? [02:14]
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ThickAsThieves you mention providing of dossiers, any info or intent you wish to instill with me, is welcome [02:14]
benkay lolstate are you delberately trolling like a noob or is this the best that you can do? [02:14]
ThickAsThieves including specific questions [02:15]
ThickAsThieves i am also willing to spend prepatory time this week [02:15]
lolstate TAT, really? TBH, I missed that. All I read was you couldnt continure in the role etc, which is reasonable, although I wasn’t clear on the reason [02:15]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves wait wut. what dossiers [02:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @#64; 0.47511 BTC [+] [02:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @#64; 0.03211 = 0.867 BTC [+] [02:15]
lolstate!*@#64;* added to ignore list. [02:15]
ThickAsThieves you said something about providing info [02:15]
ThickAsThieves i'm just being dramatic [02:15]
fluffypony on that note, I'm heading to bed [02:16]
mircea_popescu bounce he left out drugz [02:16]
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nahkunt Namworld nanotube napedia Naphex navhul-lacsup [02:16]
mircea_popescu !up nahkunt [02:17]
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nahkunt hi guys. thoughts on verpayments? [02:17]
mircea_popescu wait wut [02:17]
mircea_popescu omfg i been trying to eat this sandwich for half a n hour [02:17]
ThickAsThieves lolstate i'll sum it up like this. at this point there will be no new info from anyone worth anything on the Neo events unless he gets picked up by authorities and forced to hand over his accounts etc [02:17]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves were you going to ask vehehes why he's not publishing reports ? [02:17]
nahkunt mircea_popescu: hah, i just read about you a few minutes ago and now i see you on here... [02:17]
ThickAsThieves yes [02:17]
ThickAsThieves if i can [02:17]
mircea_popescu well what's that mean [02:17]
nahkunt Namworld nanotube napedia Naphex navhul-lacsup [02:18]
mircea_popescu nahkunt fancy that! [02:18]
ThickAsThieves what's what mean [02:18]
nahkunt mircea_popescu: the romanian suspected pornstar/cryptostocks businessman/woman [02:18]
ThickAsThieves i'm not mean! [02:18]
* bounce is living on tunes instead of food ATM. 90s tunes. [02:18]
mircea_popescu wait what ?! [02:18]
ThickAsThieves lol [02:18]
benkay suspected pornstar [02:18]
mircea_popescu omfg im taking some time off i've never been this confused ion my lyf. [02:18]
benkay wait pornstar/cryptostocks? [02:19]
benkay wtf? [02:19]
bounce secret launcehd PornCoin and didn't tell anyone? [02:19]
nahkunt lol [02:19]
bounce s/ceh/ce/ [02:19]
ThickAsThieves but seriously mp, and everyone here, i have an open call out for questions and topics anyone would like me to attempt getting info on at Bitcoin2014 [02:19]
benkay pornstar/businesscunt would make sense [02:19]
benkay but pornstar/cryptostocks is derpage of the most pernicious variety. [02:20]
ThickAsThieves basically the limit is that they have to be "serious" questions and i cant end up in jail [02:20]
bounce you already got a list? (wiki? in public? maybe not a good idea) [02:20]
nahkunt mircea_popescu: isn't that correct? i read about you on the bitcoinwiki, it linked to a bitcointalk thread discussing it. [02:20]
ThickAsThieves getting banned from the conf is not off limits, but save it for last plaz [02:20]
ThickAsThieves plz [02:20]
ThickAsThieves bounce no one has made any requests yet [02:20]
benkay nahkunt: relies on bitcointalk for research [02:20]
ThickAsThieves i intended to start my own list in the next couple days [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 250 @#64; 0.00053 = 0.1325 BTC [-] [02:21]
bounce really should trawl their forum for things to grill them about [02:21]
nahkunt benkay: yes, businesscunt, i'da said that but i'm not sure how many aussies are present in this channel [02:21]
ThickAsThieves lolstate, i do not know if danny is a criminal, it's entirely possible he is merely 'criminally' inept [02:21]
* bounce already has a bit too much to read ATM :/ [02:21]
ThickAsThieves lolstate no, he only talks to reddit now it seems [02:22]
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ThickAsThieves i know [02:22]
benkay lolstate: satisfied yet? [02:23]
nahkunt benkay: not relying on bitcointalk, i asked for confirmation from the primary source and you're criticisng my romanian pornstar turned crypt obusinesscunt research methodology? [02:23]
ThickAsThieves lolstate just wants fuel to bring back to the perpetually cold fire at bitcointalk.org [02:23]
benkay nahkunt: it's no secret mp ran porn operations. [02:23]
benkay pornstar though is your claim and you're going to have to substantiate that. [02:24]
benkay 'star' lol. [02:24]
ThickAsThieves porn cerberus [02:24]
nahkunt benkay: it's probably false then, but this wiki page https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MPEx links to a thread that mentions it [02:24]
bounce totally believable [02:24]
benkay there's nothing to dissect, lolstate. it's over. everyone involved lost their money. [02:24]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves so im thinking the best approach here is, go, liveblog it, we take it from there. [02:25]
mircea_popescu sorta like a qual lap./ [02:25]
ThickAsThieves lolstate i have no new info for you, sorry [02:25]
benkay nahkunt: let me know if you have anything that's less retarded than a retarded thread on a retarded forum. [02:25]
ThickAsThieves mp, okay, but i do feel some prep would be nice [02:25]
mircea_popescu ok, ask ? [02:25]
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benkay why, lolstate ? [02:26]
benkay what is there to dissect? [02:26]
benkay shit blew up. it's over. on to the next one. [02:26]
ThickAsThieves i'll start a doc tomorrow (i'm not entirely sober atm) but basically who are the targets, and what are the main gripes and concerns to be expressed to each [02:26]
bounce probably gonna need someone on the headset relaying irc (teamspeak?) during panels [02:26]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves as far as im concenred, the "why are you not publishing reports @#64;vehe" is all. [02:26]
nahkunt benkay: ok man... i think you're misinterpreting my tone, i wasn't really all that serious about it. i just came to ask people's opinion on https://vertpay.com — they're having an IPO soon [02:27]
ThickAsThieves i should probably buy an audio recorder [02:27]
benkay lolstate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1RChZk1EU [02:27]
mircea_popescu i have no idea who the rest of the derps present are or why'd i/anyone care. [02:27]
ThickAsThieves but mp so many people will be there [02:27]
ThickAsThieves like Josh from BFL [02:27]
mircea_popescu so many people are @#64;gcs in ny right now [02:27]
mircea_popescu so what of it [02:27]
ThickAsThieves the Overstock guy [02:27]
ThickAsThieves etc [02:27]
mircea_popescu the overstock guy is a year away from sense [02:27]
mircea_popescu i may be the lord of all evil but i can't compress time. [02:27]
benkay nahkunt: "Merchant adoption is the single biggest driver in encouraging the spread of a cryptocurrency." << sounds like a ploy to hype a shitcoin [02:27]
mircea_popescu except with willing women. [02:27]
ThickAsThieves lolstate i've been jaded since i was like 8 years old [02:28]
fluffypony nahkunt: I'm off to bed, but hit me up tomorrow if you have any VertPay questions [02:28]
mircea_popescu nahkunt you ever read the canonical statement to the contrary ? [02:28]
nahkunt fluffypony: ok thanks i will [02:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5132 @#64; 0.00083975 = 4.3096 BTC [-] {3} [02:28]
nahkunt mircea_popescu: nope, link it? [02:28]
fluffypony benkay: paybee got rolled into vertpay [02:28]
ThickAsThieves lolstate i am in no way involved with bitcoin securities at this time, well, other than owning some personally [02:29]
benkay fluffypony: vertpay is yours?! [02:29]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/#comment-92015 [02:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @#64; 0.06474168 = 0.259 BTC [-] [02:29]
ozbot Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:29]
benkay fluffypony: you're tying yourself to shitcoins that aren't atc? [02:29]
benkay for shame mah nigga [02:29]
fluffypony hah hah [02:29]
fluffypony benkay: don't worry, we'll branch into ATC soon :-P [02:29]
ThickAsThieves mp's plan actually exists [02:30]
nahkunt what is ATC? [02:30]
benkay http://therealaltcoin.org [02:30]
fluffypony nahkunt: http://www.therealaltcoin.org [02:30]
fluffypony it's the only hipster altcoin [02:30]
mircea_popescu %diff [02:30]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 140052.98 in 1630 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -69.24 [02:30]
ThickAsThieves i scooped mp's legal plan a while back [02:30]
mircea_popescu that. [02:30]
nahkunt fluffypony: serious question: will you consider other altcoins than vert some day? i realise that's pipedream talk but i'm curious [02:31]
ThickAsThieves to what end? [02:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @#64; 0.00084131 = 6.8146 BTC [+] [02:31]
mircea_popescu wait wait. fluffypony what exactly is your relation to vertcon or w/e and wtf is it ? [02:31]
fluffypony nahkunt: definitely, that's the plan, but it's important for us to have a definitive starting point [02:31]
nahkunt yes i agree and i think it's a wise decision to start with just vert [02:32]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I found someone doing something similar to PayBee but Vertcoin-specific, so I struck a deal with them and we've been sorting things out over the past couple of weeks [02:32]
mircea_popescu wtf is a vertcoin [02:32]
ThickAsThieves i'm not sure if i have a 'current' list lolstate, i may have taken a screen shot of the lmb site before it went away, but otherwise, the 'list' of pending transfers was not saved [02:32]
benkay another shitcoin. [02:32]
mircea_popescu scrypt ? [02:33]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: an altcoin, selling point is that it uses scrypt-n so it's asic-resistant [02:33]
mircea_popescu ah. [02:33]
mircea_popescu oh oh that thing [02:33]
mircea_popescu shit man that's obscure [02:33]
fluffypony the n-factor is determined by block height or something [02:33]
mircea_popescu yes yes [02:33]
mircea_popescu so what's your slice, like... bored one day ? [02:33]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: it made sense to do that than try do PayBee [02:33]
mircea_popescu aha [02:33]
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mircea_popescu is paybee even functional yet ? [02:34]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: backend stuff, the VertPay guys have a dev team so some of the code's been discarded in favour of what they have, and some can be re-used [02:35]
fluffypony so everyone wins [02:35]
mircea_popescu https://github.com/paybee/electrum-doge/blob/master/AUTHORS o look, he's even i nthere. [02:36]
fluffypony werd [02:36]
fluffypony and in there: https://github.com/paybee/electrum-vert/blob/master/AUTHORS [02:36]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what was the gpg competitor nsa was pushing << it was clipper. not strictly speaking a pgp competitor [02:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah [02:36]
asciilifeform intended for voice telephony [02:36]
mircea_popescu fluffypony all the sikrits you keep from us! [02:37]
mircea_popescu anyway, so what's the plan ? [02:37]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: nobody ever asked! [02:37]
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fluffypony we put together a small board that consists of myself plus a few others that were already involved in VertPay [02:37]
mircea_popescu no but i mean what do you intend for it to do. [02:38]
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fluffypony Vertcoin payment gateway, but dev it as a white-labelled PayBee [02:38]
mircea_popescu what's payment gateway mean in this context ? [02:39]
mircea_popescu !up DoctorBTC [02:39]
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fluffypony mircea_popescu: accept arbitrary altcoins, cash out to fiat / BTC in whatever ratio they'd like [02:39]
asciilifeform re: fusion: Farnsworth's device. [02:39]
mircea_popescu well ok, but i mean how would you cover fiat ? need a buncha bank accts. [02:40]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: you missed the whole PayBee proposal! it backs up onto Bitpay, so no need for any of tha t:) [02:40]
fluffypony *that [02:40]
fluffypony they handle all the fiat stuff (including regulatory hurdles) [02:40]
mircea_popescu ah that's what you mean by wl paybee [02:40]
* fluffypony nods [02:41]
mircea_popescu aok. [02:41]
mircea_popescu so they paying you ? :D [02:41]
fluffypony of course, part of the deal :) [02:41]
mircea_popescu just asking because you recall the earlier discussion re identifying stakeholders [02:41]
mircea_popescu you never know whether people do or don't know shit. [02:41]
fluffypony agreed [02:42]
ThickAsThieves some notables that will be in Amsterdam: Gavin Andresen, Mike Hearn, Jinyoung Lee Englund (that snakey twitter liar hackathon canceller), Matonis, Marco Santori (self-proclaimed bitcoin lawyer), Jeff Garzi, BitPay, Coinbase, Nic Cary, Electrum, Armory, BitAngels, Circle, Bloomberg, NY Times, Mastercoin, Ripple (like 4 dudes!), eToro, Coindesk, ZipZap, Xapo, Erik Voorhees, Vessenes, The [02:42]
ThickAsThieves Economist, CoinTerra, BTCJam, Roger Ver, Kraken, Bitstamp, BFL, Maidsafe [02:42]
ThickAsThieves surely you guys have things you'd love to ask some of those entities [02:43]
fluffypony oh MaidSafe AND BTCJam will be there! splendid [02:43]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no but looky : gavin quit, he can have his peace. asking shit out of nobodies a la hearn or that egglund chick is like... no matter what yo uasked, it's still +ev for them [02:43]
mircea_popescu "look ma, someone talked to us!" [02:43]
mircea_popescu maybe ask nic cary why he's not given ms boring the title :D [02:44]
ThickAsThieves ms boring? [02:44]
mircea_popescu you can ask the ripple people about mah ripple article if you particularly wish to be annoying, but i mean to what end. [02:44]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the bitcoingirl earlier. [02:44]
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ThickAsThieves oh [02:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;google trilema.com ripple [02:45]
gribble RIPple, the definitive discussion. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Ripple - Reddit: ; NEXT: 20-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: [02:45]
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fluffypony oh goodie, reading material for bed [02:45]
fluffypony tks ThickAsThieves [02:45]
mircea_popescu you can also ask ver how does it feel to have had a bunch of btc way back, and now toi have none, and just hang on to the memories of back when he could throw k's at the foundatyion. [02:45]
mircea_popescu but, again, why be so evil. [02:45]
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fluffypony ok bed time for reals now, night [02:46]
ThickAsThieves yeah my intent isnt to be evil so much as to expose it [02:46]
mircea_popescu dont you guys think this guy's wife is like stealing him away from us ? [02:46]
mircea_popescu http://www.republicain-lorrain.fr/meurthe-et-moselle/2014/04/10/le-logiciel-nanceien-qui-securise-le-bitcoin haha good one. [02:47]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/jinyoungenglund/status/463101470821605376 << she says they neverannounced one [02:48]
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ThickAsThieves hmm [02:50]
ThickAsThieves i never heard of one til it was cancelled [02:50]
mircea_popescu "-Peter, Chief Scientist, Dark Wallet" [02:50]
ThickAsThieves to point to her i guess [02:50]
ThickAsThieves so* [02:50]
mircea_popescu you knoiw, i think i followed you into some sort of very obscure reddit/wikipedia drama. [02:50]
mircea_popescu some darkwallet fork and w/e [02:50]
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ThickAsThieves lol [02:50]
mircea_popescu so openly admitting that im a totally unhip and out of the loop curmudgeon : da fuck's supposed to be the difference between "a hackathon" and "a start-up challenge" ? [02:51]
mircea_popescu the chick's using them as if they were terms of art. are they ? [02:51]
mircea_popescu i mean i get it, hackathon is that make teams and do a project thing [02:52]
mircea_popescu but a start-up challenge can easily be identical neh ? [02:52]
ThickAsThieves i dunno, i assume no coding is oinvolved in the latter [02:52]
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mircea_popescu so like a marketathon ? [02:54]
princessnell rite [02:55]
mircea_popescu o look who;'s there [02:55]
ThickAsThieves pitch decks, i bet [02:55]
benkay lo, for she speaks [02:55]
ThickAsThieves a term you will see more and more in bitcoin world i suspect [02:56]
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benkay coding is exclusive, y'assholes [02:56]
benkay gotta make room for the mktdroids [02:56]
benkay 'business plans' from people who've never run businesses and cannot plan. [02:57]
ThickAsThieves i started a rough list, please add your Q's or any other suggestions http://devilsadvocate.biz/amsterdam-bitcoin-conferences-quantum-mining-and-the-future/#comment-16 [02:57]
mircea_popescu "People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to harness rich women than motorcycle gangs." [02:57]
ThickAsThieves lol [02:58]
benkay mircea_popescu: for them to be terms of art, there'd need to be a field and for that field to have experts. [02:58]
mircea_popescu shush you. [02:58]
mircea_popescu this is the future. [02:58]
benkay i'm an expert at selling bullshit to vc's. [02:59]
benkay fartspert [02:59]
benkay hue hue hue [02:59]
benkay actually told someone 'no, this 10k LOC won't get you all the way to your dream business, but it will get you selling crap online and that'll be enough to raise the remaining 40k to pay us to make the rest of the thing for you' recently. [03:00]
bounce such colourful speech [03:01]
mircea_popescu sounds like the silicon valley of maharashtra. [03:02]
benkay 'fart up for less! come to cascadia.' [03:04]
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ThickAsThieves lol my wordpress makes me approve my own comments... [03:10]
ThickAsThieves previous link should display now [03:10]
bounce feh, people running ads to implore people to go vote for the eurocircus. the only winning move is to get one of dem euroseats, sign in for the day (for the money) then bugger off immediately. [03:10]
mircea_popescu bounce the only few times i ever wenbt to bruxelles i used to live-in with a friend that did exactly that. [03:10]
mircea_popescu If schools cannot justify differentials in rates of punishment by race or ethnic group, they will face the loss of federal funds and be forced to undertake costly diversity training. The nation's educators can avoid sanctions by adopting a racial quota system for student discipline. So as Roger Clegg, president and general counsel of the Center for Equal Opportunity, predicts, "school officials will either start discip [03:13]
mircea_popescu lining students who shouldn't be, or, more likely, will not discipline some students who ought to be." [03:13]
mircea_popescu funniest thing i read all week. [03:13]
mircea_popescu discipline quotas! [03:13]
mircea_popescu i fucking use this for my own benefit, as it happens. "i've not spanked anyone in a long time, who'd like a red butt ?" [03:13]
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bounce then again, it'd mean campaigning. I'm not that fond of lying through my teeth. [03:16]
mircea_popescu it was like 100k back in 2004ish. muy cheap. [03:16]
benkay someone got run over in this town because they were doing pushups in the middle of the street at 4 am. [03:17]
benkay oh and he was naked. [03:17]
benkay http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-doing-naked-pushups-in-Portland-hit-and-killed-by-passing-car-257864941.html [03:18]
bounce roadkill [03:18]
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mircea_popescu nuts. [03:19]
benkay well it's dinner party o'clock for sane people hereabouts. keep pumping neobee mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay? [03:19]
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mircea_popescu Portland police first received a call at 4:04 a.m. reporting a naked man was running through traffic near Columbia and Portsmouth Ave. [03:20]
mircea_popescu While police were on their way to the scene, they received a call stating that the naked man was now doing pushups in the street. [03:20]
mircea_popescu Still en route, police received a third call reporting that the man had been struck by a vehicle. [03:20]
mircea_popescu ok that was pretty good. [03:20]
benkay nobody can move fast enough to save the retarded and drug addled from theyselves. [03:21]
benkay OKAY IM OUT FOR SRS [03:21]
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dub [15:29] !up [03:22]
dub [15:29] Error: "up" is not a valid command. [03:22]
dub look what you have done [03:22]
dub [15:30] !up [03:23]
dub [15:30] Error: "up" is not a valid command. [03:23]
dub [15:31] ? [03:23]
mircea_popescu lol [03:23]
cazalla benkay: we have public safety warnings here in australia to warn people not to sleep on the road [03:29]
cazalla pushups would be an improvement [03:29]
cazalla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qClBRaretEk [03:30]
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mircea_popescu ok, am i nuts or does http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/ have a very different icon from http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/ ? [03:59]
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mircea_popescu "Superservitude with an attitude." ahaha great one. [04:32]
asciilifeform !? lol [04:32]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves' twitter acct. [04:33]
mircea_popescu i *think* it's based off some comment of mine from x years ago that being an admin is being a superservant not a superuser. [04:33]
asciilifeform 'superservitude' evokes a story. over here in usa, schoolchildren (in many states, mine included) were required to do x hours of 'community service' to graduate [04:34]
mircea_popescu wait what ?! [04:34]
mircea_popescu isn't that a substitute punishment for poor people that can't pay fines ? [04:34]
benkay lol yup [04:34]
asciilifeform one option, riotously funny, was advertised on library wall. 'society against involuntary servitude' (an org run by 'randroids') that... campaigned against community serv. requirements. [04:34]
asciilifeform it counted! [04:34]
mircea_popescu haha cool. [04:35]
mircea_popescu you've gotten nustso socialist over there btw. i mean wtf is this, community service ? i wouldn't have graduated. [04:35]
asciilifeform (what did i do? well, i worked summers in a bio lab. technically unpaid. so, i was golden.) [04:36]
mircea_popescu let teh community service me instead. [04:36]
asciilifeform (they had a special arrangement, where you'd get a 'prize' later.) [04:36]
mircea_popescu "I use "sign" in the widest sense of the definition. It is a wonderful case of an almost popular use of a very broad word in almost the exact sense of the scientific definition." << this may actuallty be the only case where popular use actually coincides with scientific use. [04:37]
asciilifeform punishment for poor people << aye! drive on 'beltway', watch the prison wagens (colourful logo) and their crews, picking up rubbish. [04:37]
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mircea_popescu randroids being ayn rand ppls ? [04:38]
asciilifeform aye [04:38]
mircea_popescu i keep learning all these wonderful things. [04:39]
asciilifeform popular name for the folks who go full throttle with ms rand [04:39]
mircea_popescu i also picked up "nrx" today [04:39]
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asciilifeform w'ts that [04:39]
mircea_popescu apparently lulzing @#64;the us contemporary nonsense has a name and an acronym. neoreactionary! [04:39]
asciilifeform aha mr mold's word. [04:39]
mircea_popescu i'm not even reactionary, myself, i've not gotten so far. some visiting french politics professor called me "white" [04:40]
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mircea_popescu not to do with skin color, but with this 1500s political divide. [04:40]
asciilifeform to me 'white' still evokes 'white' vs 'red' [04:41]
mircea_popescu well exactly. "pars imperii", and the white rose. [04:42]
asciilifeform lol! [04:42]
mircea_popescu we're talking some heavy 1125 shit here. [04:42]
asciilifeform sure he was french and not herr eco? [04:43]
mircea_popescu nevermind that :p [04:43]
asciilifeform (any u. eco fans here?) [04:43]
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Naphex danielpbarron: not for signing [11:17]
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Naphex only for generating keys [11:17]
bawse hash selling is legit [11:18]
dub drugs r bad mkay [11:18]
bawse for people who do not have btc and want cloud mining [11:18]
bawse ie, the newbies [11:18]
dub you just invent the PMB [11:19]
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bawse !up dignork [11:19]
assbot Insufficient rights, bawse, !up yourself on PM first. [11:19]
mircea_popescu !up dignork [11:19]
assbot Voicing dignork for 30 minutes. [11:19]
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dub big !up yoself [11:19]
bawse dub what is pmb [11:20]
dub bawse: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.0 [11:20]
mircea_popescu o lordy. [11:21]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-with-pmbs-ie-perpetual-mining-bonds/ [11:21]
ozbot The problem with PMBs, ie “Perpetual Mining Bonds” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [11:21]
mircea_popescu wrong link dub :D [11:21]
dub mine tells the same tale [11:21]
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mircea_popescu either that or ends up with some guy investing :D [11:22]
jurov ;;rate PsychoticBoy 1 one of the first coinbr users [11:25]
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bawse im only selling hashing power through cex in the hopes of selling 1gh for the price of 2, hoping the person signs up under my link so i can make 3% of what he buys in the future. and also initially buy 1gh with the extra $3.31 i charged. Plus PMB's are tales of people who do not know how to cash out BTC at $165 more than they are worth like I do. [11:25]
mircea_popescu so you're special. [11:25]
bawse no [11:25]
bawse im just saying if my 1583gh cointerra only makes 32 or .09 in this market, i can make $60 with .09 [11:26]
bawse so im ok with this. others are not ok. [11:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @#64; 0.00084412 = 7.4283 BTC [+] {2} [11:28]
mircea_popescu myeah. since 2012, the exact sort of nonsense has been field by the exact sort of people involved in pmbs. [11:29]
Naphex danielpbarron: to clarify, when you do ECDSA signatures you do need 1 random integer (required to be different) called K, but even in most bitcoin implementation it is generated deterministcally d [11:29]
bawse im not involved in pmbs [11:29]
mircea_popescu i imagine sooner or later you'll figure things out. [11:29]
bawse hopefully sooner [11:29]
mircea_popescu ;;later peterl i disagree btw. while i'm pretty sure quantum computing is the exact equivalent of perpetuum mobile, only we don't have the three rules of quantum compudynamics yet, cold fusion may or may not be in the same situation. maybe we discover something about lasers that makes containment work, who knows. [11:30]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell peterl i disagree btw. while i'm pretty sure quantum computing is the exact equivalent of perpetuum mobile, only we don't have the three rules of quantum compudynamics yet, cold fusion may or may not be in the same situation. maybe we discover something about lasers that makes containment work, who knows. [11:30]
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random_cat_ perhaps someone here is interested in http://eprint.iacr.org/2014/257.pdf [11:32]
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mircea_popescu i wish i recalled the url of fluffypony's pdf crusher [11:33]
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Naphex mircea_popescu: try this https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ropQbwlg0-8J:eprint.iacr.org/2014/257.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ro [11:33]
mircea_popescu aty [11:33]
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mircea_popescu Bruce Kallick Curmudgeon Associates << yay [11:34]
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mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmpSMWRCMAAe5LP.png:large << gotta love amateur statistics. [11:35]
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mircea_popescu televisions are more than 100% cheaper nao, don't you know. [11:36]
Naphex thats nice cause i broke mine a week ago:( [11:36]
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fluffypony mircea_popescu: it's not ready for prime timez yet [11:36]
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fluffypony http://pdfnomo.re/257/ [11:39]
fluffypony manually crunched [11:39]
mircea_popescu http://news.liveandinvestoverseas.com/microsoft-challenges-search-warrants-abroad/ [11:40]
mircea_popescu check that shit out [11:40]
ozbot Microsoft Challenges U.S. Search... - Live And Invest Overseas News [11:40]
mircea_popescu magistrate judges. they aren't judges in any sense, but they think they may opine on matters. [11:40]
mircea_popescu also in the news, what men are and how they work : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bm0Rwc9CcAEsUfy.jpg:large [11:41]
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mircea_popescu !up wywialm [11:44]
assbot Voicing wywialm for 30 minutes. [11:44]
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wywialm hello [11:44]
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HeySteve2 morning [11:44]
wywialm just authenticated [11:44]
HeySteve2 Shackleton's original ad? epic [11:45]
mircea_popescu %diff [11:45]
mircea_popescu HeySteve2 aye. [11:45]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 140875.36 in 1608 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -69.06 [11:45]
mircea_popescu wywialm hey. you know how to up yourself yet ? [11:45]
mircea_popescu %block [11:45]
mircea_popescu %mined [11:45]
atcbot [ATC Mined] Current: 15691264 Total ATC (to be mined): 268435456 % Mined of Total: 5.85 [11:45]
wywialm ofc, i just had to authenticate [11:45]
mircea_popescu %lb [11:45]
atcbot [ATC Last Block] Height: 30648 Time: 2014-05-05T08:30:22Z Vout Sum: 512 Number TXs: 1 Difficulty: 455357.12903751 Hash: 00000000000005602eb8602ae9b1dd97624573f1a7d520feb684a95219cd4da1 Fee: 0.00000000 Size: 204 Days Destroyed: 0 Confirmations: 1 [11:45]
mircea_popescu a ok just makin sure. [11:46]
wywialm thx anyway for up :) [11:47]
mircea_popescu ;) [11:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 619 @#64; 0.00083986 = 0.5199 BTC [-] [11:58]
random_cat_ are there any search engines that work any more? :| [11:59]
mircea_popescu notrly. [11:59]
Naphex mircea_popescu: regarding DNS2address resolve for bitcoin, i am setting up an updated example that includes support for BIP32 xpub keys for address derivation [12:01]
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mircea_popescu document it. [12:01]
Naphex very usefull, especially for payments processing and account resolve [12:02]
Naphex you could encode pub key to specifiy user_id on a deposit system [12:02]
Naphex then it can just derive xN payments for that specific user while reusing addresses each time [12:02]
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Naphex tree would be MasterWallet/User_ID/Payment_ID [12:03]
Naphex listener can just scan xpubs, while only remembering last payment id [12:03]
Naphex could throw that all in cold wallets and just do realtime processing [12:03]
Naphex i will prolly document it after i have a full working example, prolly with some client front end to demo it [12:04]
mircea_popescu it sounds great but you want to have it looked at by multiple pairs of eyes. [12:04]
Naphex ofcourse [12:05]
Naphex just ironing it out [12:05]
mircea_popescu cool. [12:05]
wywialm mircea_popescu, is the rating of 10 appropriate to reflect the fact that I operate numerisTrade account? Or should I set the rating to 1 not to prop up "total trust" (I'm aware that total trust should not be taken into account heavily, but still..) [12:06]
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mircea_popescu wywialm i'd say its adequate [12:06]
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mircea_popescu ;;rated nanotube [12:06]
gribble You rated user nanotube on Wed Aug 3 15:08:50 2011, with a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: owner of otc and all around reasonable guy. [12:06]
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mircea_popescu that's a for instance. i know enough about the guy to tell you that if you're using the wot you're implicitly trusting him. [12:06]
wywialm i'm asking cause I was just accused in the -otc of shilling [12:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @#64; 0.00083986 = 5.753 BTC [-] [12:08]
mircea_popescu you're in a similar situation with your own thing [12:08]
mircea_popescu ya well what do they know. [12:08]
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wywialm thanks anyway [12:09]
mircea_popescu anyway they should chillax, plenty of people have a ton of meaningless -10s [12:10]
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mircea_popescu ;;getrating [//] [12:10]
gribble Error: "//" is not a valid command. [12:10]
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mircea_popescu http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=anduck&sign=ANY&type=RECV [12:10]
ozbot Rating Details for User 'anduck' [12:10]
mircea_popescu there [12:10]
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fluffypony wywialm: don't get fussed over -otc, they throw tantrums about how to rate every few days lately [12:13]
wywialm I see what you mean :) [12:13]
fluffypony even after having things pointed out they like to argue minutiae and wording on the wiki [12:13]
mircea_popescu there's htis wiki mentality thing [12:13]
mircea_popescu i mean people usually derp about how bad trolls are on the internet [12:14]
mircea_popescu trolls ain't bad. wikiheads are much much worse. [12:14]
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fluffypony lol [12:14]
fluffypony !up wywialm [12:14]
assbot Insufficient rights, fluffypony, !up yourself on PM first. [12:14]
fluffypony !up [12:14]
assbot Need a nickname, fluffypony. [12:14]
mircea_popescu !down fluffypony [12:14]
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mircea_popescu woot :D [12:14]
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fluffypony weird [12:15]
fluffypony !up wywialm [12:15]
assbot Voicing wywialm without time-limit. [12:15]
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mircea_popescu o hey let's try that other thing btw. [12:15]
mircea_popescu !up mircea_popescu [12:15]
assbot Really, mircea_popescu? [12:15]
mircea_popescu gah [12:15]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I'm keen, give me details [12:15]
mircea_popescu it used to be that if you uped yourself for 30 mins, anyone could down you and it stuck. then kako broke it. [12:16]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves money laundering is the only conceivable explanation. [12:16]
mircea_popescu artifexd is one a penguin and the other a flashing gif ? [12:17]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron: considering the amount of work going into cardano << secure is a relative, not an absolute term. [12:18]
artifexd At the time they were both keyrings. Right now, http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/ looks like it hasn't been configured. [12:18]
mircea_popescu artifexd i mean the favicon strictly. [12:19]
artifexd In which case, no. I have something that looks like a stylized R. [12:19]
artifexd On both. [12:19]
mircea_popescu what the glowing fuck. [12:19]
artifexd They both look vastly different than earlier. [12:20]
mircea_popescu there is some skulldruggery going on here. 1 sec i show you. [12:20]
artifexd Seriously. I'm getting "This is the default web page for this server." on the port 80 url. [12:20]
fluffypony me too [12:20]
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fluffypony port 11371 works [12:21]
fluffypony but that's changed in the past hour [12:21]
artifexd Yeah. No css at all anymore. [12:21]
fluffypony css here [12:21]
fluffypony it looked like that standard key server interface earlier, now it has css [12:21]
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punkman I'm getting metalgamer.eu on http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/ [12:22]
artifexd I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that something is screwy. [12:23]
mircea_popescu artifexd http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/weird.png [12:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @#64; 0.00084169 = 13.2566 BTC [+] [12:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @#64; 0.03152036 = 0.2837 BTC [-] {4} [12:23]
mircea_popescu so. the plain domain has a penguin. the :11371 however has a changing icon [12:23]
artifexd What do you see for this: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/favicon.ico [12:23]
artifexd And this: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/favicon.ico [12:23]
fluffypony page not found on the first [12:23]
mircea_popescu 404 nginx [12:24]
fluffypony key icon on the second [12:24]
mircea_popescu both [12:24]
Apocalyptic so no trilema article regarding that convo with bitcoingirl I guess [12:24]
punkman wtf is metalgamer.eu [12:24]
mircea_popescu this is some fucking dns absurdity in here [12:24]
mircea_popescu is the keyserver being discreetely attacked ? [12:24]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic nah. [12:24]
artifexd I get the R. But when I paste the url to imgur, it shows a key. [12:24]
fluffypony maybe they're just reinstalling [12:24]
mircea_popescu fluffypony no cause same bs happened last night too [12:25]
fluffypony oh [12:25]
fluffypony wow [12:25]
mircea_popescu there ios some possibility someone is using the favicon to track people visiting the server [12:25]
fluffypony it has like 10 A records [12:25]
fluffypony http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8424Segg [12:25]
fluffypony so DNS round robin [12:26]
fluffypony and some of the servers are broken [12:26]
artifexd It is resolving to 82.15.145.10 for me. [12:26]
artifexd Which is not on that list. [12:26]
fluffypony yeah [12:26]
mircea_popescu http://g.etfv.co/http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/favicon.ico << this for instance [12:27]
mircea_popescu yields etfv's OWN favicon [12:27]
mircea_popescu (and so does google's service yield google's favicon) [12:27]
random_cat_ finally found it: Mylar from MIT [12:27]
random_cat_ yay for browser history [12:27]
punkman http://i.imgur.com/5rXwnI3.png [12:28]
fluffypony definitely DNS round robin borking [12:30]
mircea_popescu so this is beyond suspicious. [12:30]
Apocalyptic punkman, seems legit [12:30]
bounce all zat fanzy vheb teknologie [12:31]
mircea_popescu anyone got fiskerstrand on a list ? [12:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 89 @#64; 0.00120125 = 0.1069 BTC [-] {4} [12:33]
mircea_popescu i see 37.44.179.12 ftr. [12:34]
mircea_popescu (also not on the list) [12:36]
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random_cat_ have you tried some looking glass sites? [12:45]
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bounce http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/04/us/florida-goblin-shark/ [13:01]
ozbot Shrimper who caught rare goblin shark: "Man, he's ugly" - CNN.com [13:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @#64; 0.03310666 = 0.1986 BTC [-] {3} [13:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 39 @#64; 0.03257564 = 1.2704 BTC [-] {10} [13:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @#64; 0.00084453 = 7.5163 BTC [+] [13:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @#64; 0.00083986 = 4.7032 BTC [-] [14:01]
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fluffypony speaking of DNS [14:46]
fluffypony http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/google_announcement.png [14:46]
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random_cat_ mircea_popescu didn't get the memo :D [15:11]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 52 @#64; 0.00610025 = 0.3172 BTC [-] {4} [15:33]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @#64; 0.06474168 = 0.1295 BTC [-] [16:03]
jurov i just got informed that neisseria meningitis was found in my throat, now im reading wikipedia: [16:07]
jurov Though it initially produces general symptoms like fatigue, it can rapidly progress from fever, headache and neck stiffness to coma and death. [16:07]
jurov Death occurs in approximately 10% of cases. [16:07]
jurov *breathes heavily* [16:07]
jurov and to think i had sore throad on and off for months [16:08]
jurov *throat [16:08]
fluffypony coma and death? [16:09]
fluffypony that's crazy [16:09]
fluffypony :/ [16:09]
fluffypony is it easy to treat? [16:09]
jurov got atb [16:09]
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jurov and that's like fourth time i got completely improbable bacteria diagnosed, including some special superbacteria from iraq [16:16]
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ThickAsThieves I guess the japanese horror movies were right, baby blood does make you younger http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/05/science/young-blood-may-hold-key-to-reversing-aging.html?_r=1 [16:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @#64; 0.07798863 = 2.7296 BTC [+] {4} [16:29]
ThickAsThieves it's happening! http://www.coindesk.com/fidor-becomes-first-bank-to-use-ripple-payment-protocol/ [16:30]
davout ThickAsThieves: wonder how that will be implemented tho [16:31]
davout EUR IOUs are basically e-money, so it's either [16:31]
davout they let anyone hold them [16:31]
davout or they let only known customers hold them [16:31]
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davout former case they're ripe for ML abuse and whatnot [16:32]
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davout latter case there's not much point [16:32]
Apocalyptic ripple lobby has achieved a feat here [16:33]
davout it's interesting that they do that since ripple will then be a direct competitor to both kraken and bitcoin.de [16:33]
Apocalyptic yeah davout [16:33]
Apocalyptic totally consistent business outlook [16:33]
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davout (and to bitcoin-central as well obv. but they have no stake in it, so that's not really the same) [16:33]
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ThickAsThieves <+davout> or they let only known customers hold them //// itll be this [16:34]
Apocalyptic maybe they don't want to have all the egs in the same basket [16:34]
davout mebbe [16:34]
ThickAsThieves i dont like it nonetheless [16:36]
ThickAsThieves bitcoin works for the same purposes and it isn't owned by a company [16:37]
davout ThickAsThieves: i don't really see anything wrong with ripple as long as you take it for what it actually is : a mechanism to transmit debt, for which you have to buy stamps from a single company [16:37]
davout ThickAsThieves: bitcoin doesn't work for the "same purposes", bitcoin is about cash, ripple is about debt [16:38]
ThickAsThieves well in the case of their own stated purpose, the difference is semantic, no? [16:38]
ThickAsThieves they wanna use it to send money fast all over the place [16:38]
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davout well, for certain values of money it works, for the ones we're interested in it's irrelevant [16:39]
davout it's just in the continuation of debt money, it's not really a competitor to bitcoin in any way [16:39]
ThickAsThieves “Ripple enables us to securely and instantly send money anywhere in the world at no additional cost and through the same customer facing products and relationships we offer today.” [16:40]
Apocalyptic it's just in the continuation of debt money, it's not really a competitor to bitcoin in any way << this [16:40]
ThickAsThieves no additional cost? [16:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @#64; 0.07799076 = 1.1699 BTC [+] {2} [16:40]
davout it's the "anywhere in the world" part that's misleading, that's not actually true, the cash EUR never leaves fidor [16:40]
ThickAsThieves i'm not stating it as a competitor to bitcoin, so much as the reverse [16:41]
Apocalyptic bitcoin works for the same purposes and it isn't owned by a company [16:41]
Apocalyptic you stated it right there [16:42]
ThickAsThieves ? [16:42]
ThickAsThieves anyway, ripple is lam [16:42]
ThickAsThieves lame [16:43]
Apocalyptic that we can agree on [16:43]
ThickAsThieves i guess i just missed where we disagreed [16:43]
pankkake well, ripple's altcoin, XRP, is arguably cash [16:43]
pankkake except it's closer to Bernankoin's cash than to Bitcoin's cash [16:43]
Apocalyptic pankkake, the thing is XRP is bound to be depleted [16:44]
pankkake you can also create other altcoins in ripple [16:44]
Apocalyptic and then the rest of tx will be realised through debt transmission [16:44]
Apocalyptic ThickAsThieves, bitcoin works for the same purpose // I argue the purpose is clearly different [16:44]
Apocalyptic it may look like they want to achieve the same things, but they don't [16:45]
ThickAsThieves you misinterpret 'purpose' [16:45]
ThickAsThieves i meant the tool can be used the same way [16:45]
ThickAsThieves not the mission is shared [16:45]
Apocalyptic then I guess I did [16:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @#64; 0.00084948 = 8.0276 BTC [+] [16:45]
davout pankkake: "well, ripple's altcoin, XRP, is arguably cash" <<< yes [16:48]
Apocalyptic note that XRP is destroyed for each tx [16:49]
davout pankkake: "you can also create other altcoins in ripple <<< i don't think so or i misunderstand sthg [16:49]
davout Apocalyptic: that fits the definition of a stamp [16:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @#64; 0.00084948 = 2.3785 BTC [+] [16:49]
pankkake davout: the trick is to create a currency and not do anything with it [16:50]
davout pankkake: well then it's just some IOU for nothing, not really an altcoin in the sense that it doesn't work in the same ways cryptos do [16:51]
pankkake but bitcoin is also an IOU for nothing [16:51]
davout but it works with a blockchain [16:52]
davout i guess if that's what you define as an "altcoin" then we are in agreement [16:52]
ThickAsThieves heh a major investor of Ripple is also one for Pando [16:53]
ThickAsThieves http://pando.com/2014/05/05/ripple-announces-integration-with-germanys-fidor-bank-ushering-in-a-future-of-near-instant-and-free-global-money-transfer/ [16:53]
ThickAsThieves "[Disclosure: Andreessen Horowitz partners Marc Andreessen, Jeff Jordan, and Chris Dixon are investors in Pando.]" [16:53]
davout i really am curious to see how that will actually work [16:54]
ThickAsThieves " Smart money, however, is on the fact that today’s Fidor announcement will be the first domino in a long chain of such adoptions. [16:54]
ThickAsThieves Just like data wants to be free, money wants to move like data. Ripple is looking more and more like the rails on which that money will move." [16:54]
ThickAsThieves such unbias [16:54]
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Apocalyptic .d [16:55]
ozbot 8.001 billion | Next Diff in 1173 blocks | Estimated Change: 3.9776% in 7d 19h 27m 48s [16:55]
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ThickAsThieves Estimated Next Difficulty: 8,676,109,949 (+8.44%) [16:56]
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fluffypony someone should write an article loudly claiming Apple is buying Ripple and they'll be calling it Rapple [17:05]
pankkake write for Coinion :) [17:05]
ThickAsThieves maybe if Ripple were traded on Havelock [17:05]
fluffypony lol [17:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 538 @#64; 0.00087878 = 0.4728 BTC [+] {5} [17:07]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 200 @#64; 0.00087008 = 0.174 BTC [-] {2} [17:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @#64; 0.00084943 = 39.0738 BTC [+] {3} [17:12]
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pankkake !up bitcoingirl [17:13]
assbot Insufficient rights, pankkake, !up yourself on PM first. [17:13]
davout !up bitcoingirl [17:13]
assbot Voicing bitcoingirl for 30 minutes. [17:13]
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bitcoingirl Hi doesn't anyone have any thoughts on the SaveGox campaign? [17:14]
bitcoingirl or doesn't any know the status of the class action law suits? [17:15]
pankkake the question is what is there to save [17:16]
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mod6 ^ [17:16]
ThickAsThieves i think, while it seems silly, Gox probably does have some brand equity [17:16]
mod6 or why would it be worth saving at all? [17:16]
pankkake the userbase doesn't like mtgox. it always sucked [17:16]
bitcoingirl as far as making investors whole again [17:17]
ThickAsThieves but i dont think that equity is with big players [17:17]
bitcoingirl http://www.savegox.com/?page_id=51 [17:17]
ThickAsThieves that doesnt mean there isnt money to be made [17:17]
bitcoingirl vs liquidation [17:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 410 @#64; 0.00084987 = 0.3484 BTC [+] [17:17]
bitcoingirl <+ThickAsThieves> right, that's the argument [17:17]
jurov there is *no way* to make investors whole again [17:18]
jurov or, what do you mean with it bitcoingirl? [17:18]
ThickAsThieves making investors whole is indeed unlikely, but it's also impossible if they liquidate [17:19]
ThickAsThieves it's very difficult to tell how much more money could be put back into users' hands though [17:20]
ThickAsThieves could end up being 10% more over 5 years [17:20]
ThickAsThieves and then it fizzles and dies [17:20]
bitcoingirl Karples hasn't agreed to the settlement, why do you think he would rather liquidate? [17:20]
ThickAsThieves because work [17:21]
bitcoingirl not because he could be prosecuted? [17:21]
davout could he? [17:21]
ThickAsThieves he cant avoid that if he is [17:21]
ThickAsThieves who the hell wants to run the new mt gox with such a cloud and debt hanging over its head [17:22]
Naphex lawyers! [17:22]
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bitcoingirl the settlement has a "Prosecution Fund" provision that would go after stolen customer assets [17:22]
ThickAsThieves i guess [17:22]
Naphex sharks [17:22]
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bitcoingirl Sunlot Holdings was formed for this very reason [17:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @#64; 0.46514286 = 6.512 BTC [-] {4} [17:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @#64; 0.46000287 = 7.36 BTC [-] {3} [17:29]
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ThickAsThieves fluffypony thank you for your question suggestions for the Bitcoin2014 conference [17:38]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: pleasure, I couldn't think of any others offhand [17:38]
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Naphex !up bitcoingirl [17:47]
assbot Voicing bitcoingirl for 30 minutes. [17:47]
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Naphex bitcoingirl: you should learn about gpg and WoT and stuff if you're gonna hang ;] [17:48]
Naphex or you might lose that + and won't be able to talk in channel [17:48]
pankkake ;;gpg info bitcoingirl [17:49]
gribble User 'BitcoinGirl', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1MYtkWgJifWpLdjiK7AcLgGUhZNP297orA, registered on Sun Apr 7 20:05:51 2013, last authed on Sun Apr 7 18:05:51 2013. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=BitcoinGirl . Currently not authenticated. [17:49]
Naphex might be some different bitcoin girl ;] [17:49]
pankkake yeah [17:50]
Naphex bitcoingirl: http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php / http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html / http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System [17:50]
pankkake ;;gpg info bitcoinguy [17:50]
gribble User 'bitcoinGuy', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 13Q4dgxB8g15Kfd2hjGqs2tviJq7kCAFic, registered on Mon Nov 25 11:26:03 2013, last authed on Mon Nov 25 11:26:03 2013. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=bitcoinGuy . Currently not authenticated. [17:50]
pankkake waaah [17:50]
pankkake ;;gpg info bitcoinwhiteguy [17:50]
gribble No such user registered. [17:50]
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jurov ;;gpg info bitcoinnigga [17:54]
gribble No such user registered. [17:54]
jurov ;;gpg info bitcoingypsy [17:54]
gribble No such user registered. [17:54]
pankkake ;;gpg info bitcoinfag [17:55]
gribble No such user registered. [17:55]
pankkake there's still opportunities [17:55]
Naphex haha [17:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6971 @#64; 0.00084811 = 5.9122 BTC [-] [17:56]
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fluffypony hah [17:56]
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bitcoinfag taken :D [17:56]
fluffypony Duke poster arriving 3...2....1.... [17:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2322 @#64; 0.00085028 = 1.9744 BTC [+] {2} [17:57]
jurov !up kermit [17:57]
assbot Voicing kermit for 30 minutes. [17:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15383 @#64; 0.0008504 = 13.0817 BTC [+] {2} [17:58]
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asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/05/nsa-tempest-01-02-oct-02.pdf [18:01]
asciilifeform heavily censored, naturally. [18:01]
ThickAsThieves information so free that it can't be seen [18:02]
asciilifeform small summary: http://cryptome.org/nsa-tempest.htm [18:03]
asciilifeform in other news: [18:08]
asciilifeform http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/05/statecraft-or-witchcraft.html [18:08]
ozbot ClubOrlov: Statecraft or Witchcraft? [18:08]
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jurov How was the US State Department been busy in Ukraine? [18:11]
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asciilifeform jurov: this topic isn't particularly mysterious - beaten to death in open literature. [18:12]
Apocalyptic asciilifeform, any idea why cryptome is still up ? [18:12]
asciilifeform Apocalyptic: aside from the obvious fact that 99+% of the material found there is junk - no idea. [18:12]
pankkake can't stop the signal [18:13]
Apocalyptic can stop the .org domain definitely [18:13]
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ThickAsThieves http://www.pfhub.com/wisconsin-political-candidate-mark-clear-returns-bitcoin-donations-654/ [18:14]
ozbot Wisconsin political candidate Mark Clear returns bitcoin donations [18:14]
ThickAsThieves lol [18:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @#64; 0.00085081 = 11.4009 BTC [+] {2} [18:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @#64; 0.00085129 = 14.2165 BTC [+] {2} [18:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @#64; 0.07500756 = 7.5008 BTC [-] {16} [18:23]
jurov well, if orlov's right, russia is right on way to extens its eugenic program to whole eurasia soon [18:24]
jurov does it at least have more citizens than 100 years ago? [18:24]
jurov really, all these slaughters of own citizens..what other purpose it could have then eugenics? [18:25]
jurov *than [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @#64; 0.00084811 = 3.6469 BTC [-] [18:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @#64; 0.07135379 = 7.1354 BTC [-] {11} [18:29]
jurov lol they'll cotinue with it on ukraine and with bonus convince everyone incl. orlov that "them us puppets ordered that" [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @#64; 0.00084811 = 7.9722 BTC [-] [18:31]
thestringpuller wow tons of capital vacated MPOE [18:31]
mike_c well, didn't you hear? mp is extradited to antartica to face AEC security fraud charges. [18:33]
fluffypony I believe "they" are on "their" way to arrest him right this minute [18:34]
jurov should i hde, too? [18:34]
jurov *hide [18:34]
fluffypony hide yo wife, hide yo kids, coz they're raping erry-one out there [18:34]
ThickAsThieves nope, just keep contracting rare illnesses [18:34]
mike_c probably. antartica is coming down hard on all btc bizness [18:34]
ThickAsThieves you'll be fine [18:34]
davout_ mike_c: lelz [18:34]
pankkake understandable, it's melting because of it [18:35]
fluffypony yes [18:35]
fluffypony which is MP's fault, I'm told [18:35]
jurov wut, 40BTC is meltdown? [18:35]
fluffypony because bitcoin...electricity...heat...uh.... [18:35]
Apocalyptic jurov, like an iceberg, it's melting under the water [18:35]
ThickAsThieves probably just someone has a buttload of mpoe and unloads once in a while when they can [18:36]
thestringpuller wtf are AEC charges? [18:36]
mike_c antartica exchange commission. duh. [18:36]
thestringpuller pomodoro... [18:36]
thestringpuller ;;seen benkay [18:37]
gribble benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 31 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: get 'em while they're cheap frrreal [18:37]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [18:37]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 429.95, Best ask: 429.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 429.99, 24 hour volume: 7341.92636950, 24 hour low: 425.0, 24 hour high: 445.0, 24 hour vwap: 435.070993586 [18:37]
thestringpuller nice [18:37]
fluffypony the charge sheet is right there with the INTERPOL RED CARD that the ref has given Danny [18:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @#64; 0.0714004 = 1.071 BTC [+] {2} [18:37]
ThickAsThieves http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/forget-logging-facebook-bitid-lets-sign-bitcoin-address/2014/05/05 [18:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @#64; 0.07068462 = 8.1287 BTC [-] {12} [18:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14163 @#64; 0.00085146 = 12.0592 BTC [+] {3} [18:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25313 @#64; 0.00085193 = 21.5649 BTC [+] {2} [18:39]
ThickAsThieves fluffypony huh? I don't even see Danny wanted in Cyprus on Interpol [18:39]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: that's the thing [18:40]
fluffypony who was that guy clamouring aboout it [18:40]
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ThickAsThieves lolstate? [18:40]
ThickAsThieves dude is probly jimmothy or some other toxic actor [18:40]
fluffypony "blackkys" [18:41]
fluffypony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=324177 [18:41]
ozbot View the profile of blackkys [18:41]
fluffypony that dude [18:41]
fluffypony "Also European and International arrest warrants have been issued together with an Interpol Red Notice." [18:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @#64; 0.077 = 0.231 BTC [-] [18:41]
fluffypony then when he's pressured to demonstrate that these exist he just keeps batting it away [18:41]
fluffypony because Danny has committed a Very Seriouz Felony (tm) [18:42]
ThickAsThieves :/ [18:42]
pankkake will it stop once they can't try to pump neobeeQ anymore? [18:42]
ThickAsThieves who knows [18:43]
mike_c in 17 minutes? [18:43]
mike_c we will see shortly. [18:43]
mike_c if anyone here is doing that history of failures, you should screen grab the neebeeq stuff quick [18:44]
pankkake there is assbot log [18:44]
mike_c yeah, i was thinking of lulzy havelock updates and what-not. i guess those are probably preserved in bitcointa.lk somewhere. [18:45]
pankkake oh right [18:45]
pankkake !t h neobeeq [18:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00001261 / 1.277E-5 / 0.00001700 (17434 shares, 0.22257403 BTC), 7D: 0.00001261 / 2.149E-5 / 0.00006970 (205360 shares, 4.41329943 BTC), 30D: 0.00001261 / 0.00011594 / 0.00045000 (675713 shares, 78.33886123 BTC) [18:45]
pankkake I guess that's the value of drama [18:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @#64; 0.4508002 = 2.254 BTC [-] {3} [18:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @#64; 0.0044301 = 0.2038 BTC [+] [18:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @#64; 0.00443005 = 0.4519 BTC [-] {3} [18:54]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @#64; 0.07778191 = 2.4112 BTC [+] {3} [18:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.65503744 BTC to 8`448 shares, 31428 satoshi per share [19:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @#64; 0.0008526 = 14.5368 BTC [+] {3} [19:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 23.70000000 BTC to 30`000`000 shares, 79 satoshi per share [19:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3065 @#64; 0.00014052 = 0.4307 BTC [-] {5} [19:05]
chetty http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/05/05/department-defense-to-study-bitcoin-as-terrorist-threat/ [19:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @#64; 0.00085202 = 8.861 BTC [-] {2} [19:20]
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mike_c aand, it's gone. ah, interesting bitbet: what will be the next fund delisted from havelock? could be one every month! [19:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @#64; 0.0001455 = 0.291 BTC [-] [19:26]
benkay what'd havelock delist? [19:28]
jurov neobbq [19:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @#64; 0.07773006 = 0.3109 BTC [-] [19:28]
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jurov i'd bet some of these mining ops [19:29]
benkay i just got informed that neisseria meningitis was found in my throat << how much d'ya want for coinbr? :D [19:29]
jurov just for you.. 50k btc? [19:29]
benkay ;;ticker [19:30]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 433.98, Best ask: 434.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 434.0, 24 hour volume: 8376.14788294, 24 hour low: 425.0, 24 hour high: 445.0, 24 hour vwap: 434.910659841 [19:30]
benkay er [19:30]
benkay !t s s.mpoe [19:30]
assbot It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money. [19:30]
benkay !t m s.mpoe [19:30]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00083894 / 0.00084562 / 0.00085436 (810968 shares, 685.77 BTC), 7D: 0.00083786 / 0.00094575 / 0.00098485 (4986284 shares, 4,715.80 BTC), 30D: 0.00083786 / 0.00096384 / 0.00101 (19586724 shares, 18,878.50 BTC) [19:30]
benkay jeeeeesus. [19:30]
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benkay ;;calc 0.0.00083894 * 1000000000 [19:31]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [19:31]
benkay ;;calc 0.00083894 * 1000000000 [19:31]
gribble 838940 [19:31]
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benkay every thing is dumb and i am hungover [19:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @#64; 0.00435527 = 1.3066 BTC [-] {7} [19:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @#64; 0.00430255 = 1.2908 BTC [-] {7} [19:33]
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pankkake I'm now getting quantum physics spam (in French). apparently, it's a new way of healing [20:32]
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asciilifeform lol! [20:33]
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benkay i failed to bookmark the 'how would you like that wrapped up' editorial cartoon re: bitcoin. does anyone else have the link handy? [20:43]
TomServo http://www.political-humor.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/control-of-bitcoin-how-would-you-like-this-wrapped.jpg [20:44]
benkay gratzi, tomservo [20:44]
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mike_c is that a word? you mean grazie? [20:46]
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Apocalyptic probably [20:49]
mike_c (i'm secretly hoping i'm not the worst in the channel at languages) [20:50]
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benkay gratzie? grazie? which is correct? [20:52]
benkay (not implying i mispelled, i am actually that illiterate) [20:52]
Apocalyptic grazie, as mike_c suggested, is correct [20:56]
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fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/vi6XS5Y.jpg [21:06]
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chetty anyone looked into this: https://rockwell-partners.com/ [21:09]
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mike_c chetty: um, sit back and make money? sounds pretty scammy. [21:13]
mike_c making 50% a month? panacea oughta put their money with these guys. [21:15]
chetty yeah thats what I was thinking - and they take btc to "invest" [21:15]
mike_c this is better than pirate. [21:15]
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mike_c and they are "strong. loyal innovative." [21:16]
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chetty certainly has a certain fragrance [21:16]
fluffypony mike_c: but it has a chart! [21:16]
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pankkake not the first fiat ponzi scam to accept btc. but this one looks better (css wise) [21:19]
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chetty I dont actually recognize any of the other payment methods they have listed [21:24]
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punkman Craig Austin's real name is Jean Fixot: http://motofocus.pl/nowosci/9169/chimirec-otwiera-nowy-zaklad-w-polsce [21:26]
kakobrekla its a ponzi [21:26]
punkman (from Rockwell about page) [21:27]
punkman classic HYIP [21:27]
fluffypony I keep wanting to call it HIYP [21:27]
punkman "1% on non-trading days" lol [21:27]
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mike_c i don't even see how you can ponzi at 50% a month. that is insane. [21:28]
fluffypony lol [21:28]
fluffypony mike_c: they won't make a single payment [21:28]
mike_c i guess [21:28]
punkman have a look at http://www.talkgold.com/ [21:29]
mike_c not really a ponzi then, just straight stealing. [21:29]
fluffypony yep [21:29]
punkman http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r412231-.html 1249 pages [21:30]
ozbot Rockwell-Partners - rockwell-partners.com [21:30]
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fluffypony so basically you circle-jerk with your affiliate link [21:32]
fluffypony talk about how your'e getting paid [21:32]
fluffypony *you're [21:32]
fluffypony and then profit? [21:32]
punkman mostly just not profit [21:32]
punkman but infinite hitpoints [21:32]
mike_c ;;seen nubbins` [21:33]
gribble nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 18 hours, 18 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: was going through a real meatspace phase D; [21:33]
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mike_c pankkake: have you seen the last s.mg report? i thought of you when reading about the package maintainer job (cuz of altcoin). [21:38]
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bounce "if we can't follow your every move (financially), you must be a terrorist (financier)" -- nothing like fat budgets to engender some more groupthink and target innovations like bitcoin. can someone please put the usg out of our misery? [21:40]
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pankkake mike_c: not sure why because of altcoin, but packages is something I know well [21:43]
pankkake and you don't usually have to understand the language, just the build systems (which all suck, no exceptions :p) [21:44]
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mike_c well, because you put together the altcoin code, no? [21:44]
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mike_c in any case, seemed up your alley :) [21:45]
bounce agreed. looking at the differences is interesting in a chinese sort of way, though. [21:45]
pankkake altering a few values, and running make, sure :D [21:45]
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chetty pankkake, make, jam ? [21:47]
pankkake jam? [21:48]
pankkake or it's a joke about pancakes :) [21:48]
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mike_c http://freetype.org/jam/ [21:49]
ozbot An introduction to Jam [21:49]
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pankkake benkay: blame jimmothy, or http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/a-year-of-s-mpoe/ ? [21:55]
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mike_c i thought my article was positive on s.mpoe. i don't think its my fault. [21:57]
mike_c just because i can't figure it out doesn't mean much [21:57]
kakobrekla mike killed mpoe. is true. [21:58]
mike_c feel the power of btcalpha [21:58]
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bounce ``Jam is a small open-source build tool that can be used as a replacement for Make.'' -- this is where I stop reading. [21:59]
mike_c built by same guy as perforce i believe, which i am a fan of. [21:59]
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fluffypony bounce: I think it's what Boost uses [22:00]
fluffypony it's awful [22:00]
mike_c chetty: why did you pick jam? [22:00]
bounce what was that kid again that distributed a bit of crappy code with a makefile containing a few lines of irc log that "everybody" just copies and pastes the rules, atop a list of rules that miraculously work some of the time altough most of them were written the wrong way around? [22:01]
fluffypony I have no idea what you're talking about, bounce [22:01]
fluffypony lol [22:01]
bounce my pet theory is that there's a class of kids fascinated with building tools but aren't quite cut out to write compilers... so they stick to make "replacements" instead. [22:01]
chetty mike_c, crystalspace was already using it, natural progression [22:02]
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davout ohai [22:02]
bounce once you do understand how Make rules actually work, most of the problems people experience with make go away. and then the "better, easier" replacements are just pots of syntactic sugar. like, oh, ant for example. [22:03]
fluffypony or CMake [22:05]
mike_c i can understand not wanting to rewrite crystalspace's build files though. [22:05]
davout bounce: nice one :-) [22:05]
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asciilifeform re: cmake: obligatory, http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3206985430398054@#64;naggum.net.html [22:06]
asciilifeform 'A "new" language that differs from the rest of the crop by one or a couple features is proof positive that both what it came from and what it has become are mutations about to die. There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of such "languages" that people have invented over the yeare, for all sorts of weird purposes where they just could not use whatever language they were already using, could not extend it [22:06]
asciilifeform , and could not fathom how to modify its tools without making a whole new language.' [22:06]
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bounce cmake isn't a make replacement, it's a autofools replacement, loaded with colourfully painted godawful bikesheds and inducing more dependency pressure on the most common user (the non-dev compiler) [22:07]
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bounce in that sense it's strictly worse than autofools. some accomplishment. [22:07]
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artifexd or CMake << +1 like retweet upvote [22:19]
fluffypony nigga plz [22:19]
fluffypony Google + [22:19]
artifexd That's the +1 parts [22:19]
fluffypony oic oic, you got me covered [22:19]
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benkay mike_c: neat article [22:29]
mike_c thanks. [22:29]
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danielpbarron !up Rulother [22:33]
assbot Voicing Rulother for 30 minutes. [22:33]
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Rulother Thank you [22:34]
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danielpbarron no problem; what brings you to #bitcoin-assets? [22:35]
Rulother Well nothing really, just on my auto list and been coming here for a little over a year [22:35]
Rulother Nice to chime in from time to time depending on the convo [22:35]
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danielpbarron I haven't seen you chat in here yet [22:35]
Rulother hm [22:36]
danielpbarron but I haven't been here a year [22:36]
Rulother Well I promise you I've been here before :P [22:36]
fluffypony danielpbarron: http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com [22:36]
danielpbarron no worries, i'm just breaking the ice [22:36]
fluffypony he's said ~1600 lines over the past year [22:36]
Rulother More so a lurker in here [22:36]
danielpbarron Rulother: if you auth with gribble, i'll give you a +1 so you can voice yourself in the future [22:37]
Rulother I'll get on that when I can. At work, atm. [22:37]
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fluffypony http://techcrunch.com/2014/05/05/dont-trust-bitcoin-startups-that-centralize-everything/ [22:57]
ozbot Don’t Trust Bitcoin Startups That Centralize Everything | TechCrunch [22:57]
davout fluffypony: "don't like wormy apples? have a steak instead" [22:57]
asciilifeform http://techcrunch.com/2024/05/05/dont-eat-shit-it-isnt-delicious/ [22:57]
fluffypony no you must read this, it's hilarious [22:58]
davout asciilifeform: lmao [22:58]
fluffypony it's basically Blockchain.info talking about decentralisation [22:58]
fluffypony "ohai don't use a centralised provider...except us for your webwallet. we're fine." [22:58]
fluffypony my favourite part is at the end [22:59]
fluffypony "Finally, when the conversation moved to alternative coins, Smith also shared that he is bullish on dogecoins. “In terms of the alternative currencies that I like, I really like dogecoins. I got 3,600 dogecoins by selling an inflatable penguin,” he said." [22:59]
fluffypony because on a scale of 1 to reasons-to-be-bullish-on-an-altcoin, being able to sell an inflatable penguin is right up there with "has the word Dark in the name" [22:59]
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Naphex my fav part is how blockchain api carries password through cloudflare ssl passthru [23:02]
davout Naphex: you sure it does ? [23:03]
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Naphex davout: https://blockchain.info/api/blockchain_wallet_api [23:03]
fluffypony davout: API, not regular web wallet access [23:03]
danielpbarron i got like 500 free dogecoins a while back; turned it into BTC (what's that, a couple hundred satoshi?) [23:03]
davout Naphex: ah ty, didn't know about this API [23:03]
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fluffypony danielpbarron: yeah I think it's ~1 mil doge to the BTC [23:04]
davout i really can't believe they have such a thing... [23:04]
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davout Naphex: not that having the password transit in clear was really necessary to get pwned by the cloudflare heresy anyway [23:05]
davout just fuck with the JS on the fly [23:05]
Naphex ofcourse [23:06]
davout http://blog.bitcoin-central.net/2014/02/19/the-cloudflare-mitm/ [23:06]
ozbot The CloudFlare MITM | Paymium [23:06]
Naphex cloudflare makes little sense to me [23:07]
Naphex you pay for a varnish cache and a nginx ssl PT [23:07]
Naphex and they get to read all your trafic, fun [23:07]
Naphex varnish doesn't support ssl, so i'd bet that they will PT through regular http pretty often [23:08]
mike_c davout: same thing for aws. their load balancer sits in front of your servers and handles SSL termination for you [23:08]
mike_c (if you ask them to) [23:08]
Naphex use a good DC and you will get most services top notch, imo [23:09]
Naphex together with great ddos protection and quality support, for an easy time [23:10]
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fluffypony "5 days before this article was written Cloudflare started offering Full (Strict) SSL, where traffic between Cloudflare and the origin server is encrypted AND the origin server’s cert is validated." [23:10]
mike_c that sounds like a rosy assessment of DC's. where the hell do you host? [23:10]
davout i'm thinking about e-mail based APIs against DDoS [23:10]
fluffypony davout: that broke my brain [23:10]
davout ikr [23:10]
fluffypony Naphex: CloudFlare is AMAZING for non-critical services [23:11]
Naphex mike_c: i use a industrial dc, usually services high end clients that have their own admins and servers [23:11]
fluffypony for $5 a month I get an SSL cert and can use a snake-oil self-signed on the server [23:11]
fluffypony I would never in a million years use it for something that is critical/financial [23:12]
kakobrekla davout did you make any efforts to be included in rtbtc? [23:13]
Naphex mike_c: http://www.gts.ro/ro-en/solutions/industries i highly recommend them [23:13]
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davout kakobrekla: i have a FIX interface in one the pans that's currently cooking [23:13]
Naphex their website seems off with 404's, but you get an account manager, so no shitty web support and services [23:14]
kakobrekla are they on fix only? [23:14]
davout kakobrekla: i don't think so [23:14]
kakobrekla are they on fix at all? [23:14]
Naphex davout: i had a fix interface in master for a while but no point in launching it, 0 demand [23:15]
Naphex and work is focused on other stuff [23:15]
davout Naphex: what did you use ? [23:15]
Naphex for what? [23:15]
davout i mean, didja write it all yourself? [23:15]
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Naphex yeah, i was evaluating other protocols and did a fix impl for tests. [23:17]
asciilifeform from the loltron: [23:17]
asciilifeform http://nizhyn.pik.cn.ua/785/v-nizhini-separatistiv-saditimut-na-kol [23:17]
asciilifeform tldr - ua gov. prepares to impale 'insurgents'. [23:17]
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Naphex davout: you should check out open fast, for fixfast if you're doing it in java [23:18]
Naphex http://www.openfast.org/apidocs/ [23:18]
ozbot OpenFAST 1.1.2 API [23:18]
asciilifeform 'three stakes, well sharpened on one side, have been prepared at...' [23:18]
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Naphex but i use a protobuf-like protocol in binary for the server backend [23:19]
fluffypony asciilifeform: happy...easter? [23:19]
asciilifeform lol [23:19]
davout Naphex: ty [23:20]
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bounce what, literally impale? [23:22]
asciilifeform their idea, not mine. [23:22]
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fluffypony bounce: this is what the US government is like - http://i.imgur.com/y6CG4zP.jpg - "shhhhhh...it'll all be over soon...." [23:23]
asciilifeform http://vvv-ig.livejournal.com/690116.html [23:25]
asciilifeform ^ 'funfest' in odessa. [23:25]
fluffypony Naphex: I hear you've been having fun weather that side of the planet: http://imgur.com/a/ZYFTi [23:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @#64; 0.00085274 = 7.9731 BTC [-] {2} [23:29]
Naphex fluffypony: its been raining some [23:30]
Naphex but thats bout it [23:30]
fluffypony Naphex: Bucharest got these cool mini-icebergs [23:31]
fluffypony I would float a mini-titanic around them [23:31]
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bounce geez wtf pix. what's going on there? [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @#64; 0.00085232 = 8.651 BTC [-] [23:32]
bounce huh, serious optimism waiting at the bus in ankle deep ice water. here the busses'll stop going at a few cm snow [23:33]
bounce s/bus/& stop/ [23:33]
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bounce gah translate.google.com shits itself. [23:35]
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davout asciilifeform: interesting pics, what's the point of the article? what are all the circled things about? [23:39]
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davout there seems to be in a pair of pictures, the implication that one of the dead dudes was also present at some protest [23:40]
davout like on this one -> http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/878159/878159_original.jpg [23:41]
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davout asciilifeform: nvm, gt seems to be doing an allright job ru->fr [23:43]
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mike_c Naphex: they look pretty good. ever had the occassion to test out the ddos mitigation? [23:58]
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