Forum logs for 02 Nov 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00078398 = 7.683 BTC [-] [00:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8374 @ 0.00077883 = 6.5219 BTC [-] {2} [01:27]
cazalla so october is 1 month down for qntra, if anyone has criticism as well as feedback on what you liked/disliked and want to see more/less of, i'm all ears [01:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00077913 = 2.3374 BTC [+] [01:35]
punkman cazalla: some longer pieces maybe [01:38]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/minigame-smg-october-2014-statement/ [01:38]
assbot MiniGame (S.MG), October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [01:38]
punkman uh oh gotta get that bot up [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12927 @ 0.00077826 = 10.0606 BTC [-] {2} [01:39]
mircea_popescu which one ? [01:39]
punkman the punkbot [01:39]
mircea_popescu ah yes. what's up with that. [01:39]
punkman it had surgery, testing now [01:40]
punkman ;;tslb [01:40]
gribble Time since last block: 23 minutes and 33 seconds [01:40]
mircea_popescu testing is for fiats. [01:41]
punkman ;;tslb [01:50]
gribble Time since last block: 5 minutes and 17 seconds [01:50]
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punkman hmm, missed the block [01:51]
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mircea_popescu !up Zebetus [01:51]
-assbot- You voiced Zebetus for 30 minutes. [01:51]
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mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/gjyG2Wwk << ustardian goes on a "first date", blows it. because racism. [01:58]
assbot From okcupid (just to also shoot down my own insistence about how good it is!) I - Pastebin.com [01:58]
kakobrekla http://i.imgur.com/IEGMg2j.png wink wink nudge nudge [01:59]
gernika cazalla I like the background given on investors and founders involved in the startups covered. Don't have a specific example in mind, but I like the digging. [01:59]
punkman kakobrekla: I ran the backtest on more recent bets, ALLNO was negative [02:00]
kakobrekla hah! [02:00]
mircea_popescu charting dun werk ? o noes [02:01]
kakobrekla charting? [02:02]
mircea_popescu well what is this "all history shows property X so therefore future will too" ? [02:03]
punkman I had theories! [02:03]
kakobrekla the reasoning: only close bets make it to bitbet and humanity is mostly a fail [02:04]
mircea_popescu the therrorists win ? [02:04]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol not bad! [02:04]
punkman on another note, punkbot is alive again, yay [02:05]
mircea_popescu a cool. [02:05]
punkman cooked some ribeyes from the americas, debugged while digesting [02:06]
punkman unfortunately from north americas [02:06]
mircea_popescu a digestabugging! [02:07]
punkman I like it [02:07]
* mats_cd03 lights a bowl [02:07]
mats_cd03 aaand now to install obsd 5.6 [02:07]
punkman good times [02:08]
mircea_popescu http://oglaf.com/submission/ << mainstream bdsm. [02:08]
assbot Submission [02:08]
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jurov any idea how to quickly dump contents fo sqlite into HTML? [02:10]
jurov there are jsut two tables, patches and sigs [02:10]
mircea_popescu i thought it had a html export baked in [02:10]
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jurov oh yes, it does! [02:13]
mircea_popescu i'm so good at solving problems that don't exist. [02:13]
jurov cue bash #305 :D [02:14]
punkman jurov: you can do that from sqlite shell [02:14]
punkman .mode html [02:15]
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kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2014#831155 [02:27]
assbot Logged on 16-09-2014 17:28:54; kakobrekla: how do you measure success [02:27]
kakobrekla found my answer, sorta: >Our staffing costs alone run $45,000 a month. Our hosting costs for September were $8,500. [02:27]
mircea_popescu that's how you measure public idiocy, [02:27]
mircea_popescu by looking at what scammers claim as part of their scamtext, you can guess what the general sea of idiots imagines is going on. [02:28]
kakobrekla clearly [02:28]
kakobrekla i can easily make bitbet spend 45k a month [02:28]
kakobrekla :) [02:28]
kakobrekla or 8.5k to be fair. [02:29]
kakobrekla 45 would be challenging. [02:29]
mircea_popescu you're too young to pay for women. [02:30]
punkman ;;ticker [02:30]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 323.24, Best ask: 324.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.96000, Last trade: 324.21, 24 hour volume: 15042.34159385, 24 hour low: 316.61, 24 hour high: 339.47, 24 hour vwap: 326.688260005 [02:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10943 @ 0.00077913 = 8.526 BTC [+] [02:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11402 @ 0.00078087 = 8.9035 BTC [+] [02:33]
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xiando $102000/year for hosting, uhm exactly what do they claim to be hosting there.. facebook? google? yahoo? [02:36]
xiando I guess it makes sense if you don't have a bunch of servers and websites yourself [02:37]
mircea_popescu it makes exactly no sense, unless you're from reddit. [02:37]
xiando perhaps if you're hosting reddit (even then it seems like a lot) [02:38]
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kakobrekla you're too young to pay for women. < oh oh i see, young enough to emulate em [02:41]
mircea_popescu lmao [02:42]
xiando you'd be mostly paying not to have anything more to do with them imho, if you just want one for the night then there's plenty at the local bars [02:43]
mircea_popescu http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OVtOM-JqUfA/SdISYu2icDI/AAAAAAAAIPQ/puqOfJnQkfA/s800/ZN_Emu3.jpg << this is emu-lating, for the record. [02:43]
cazalla mircea_popescu, you know we had a great emu war in australia.. that we lost [02:44]
mircea_popescu did you lose it pleasurably ? [02:44]
cazalla the army machine gunned the emus but it wasn't enough [02:45]
cazalla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War [02:46]
assbot Emu War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [02:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00078523 = 14.7623 BTC [+] {2} [02:51]
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punkman how do you cut big blocks of chocolate into less unwieldy pieces? [02:52]
mircea_popescu if its any good, you crack it against a large marble slab. [02:53]
punkman it's a piece from one of those 10kg blocks, says Callebaut [02:54]
punkman guess that might be better than heated knife [02:54]
mircea_popescu meh, belgian. they oversweet their shit. [02:55]
mircea_popescu but anyway, yeah, sure. crack it on the countertop. [02:55]
punkman was same price as some Nestle shit, and not much sugar, not a bad deal [02:58]
cazalla choc i buy down here uses agave nectar, pretty nice stuff [03:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4205 @ 0.00078376 = 3.2957 BTC [-] [03:01]
punkman !up ninjashogun [03:01]
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cazalla http://www.panachocolate.com/eighty/ a little expensive but worth it [03:01]
assbot Eighty - Pana Chocolate Store [03:01]
ninjashogun thanks. I asked for voice to request this: [03:01]
ninjashogun hi - could I ask you to remove my full name from the logs. I have been open about what it is and it appears once or twice in the bitcoin-assets logs. I realize that this ecosystem is very different and that people here don't believe in traditional startups, but I have investors doing due dilligence on me, and it is uncomfortable to come up in google results. [03:01]
ninjashogun I realize that you also are careful about your online footprint so you will appreciate this. I think I didn't realize that it's a publicly-indexed log at the time. [03:01]
mircea_popescu lmao. [03:02]
mircea_popescu what is the schmuck's name anyway ? [03:02]
ninjashogun I can PM you if you want. Let's not repeat this. [03:02]
punkman I don't think I've seen your name [03:02]
ninjashogun Look, we're all adults here and know how an IRC conversation looks to a random person googling an individual. [03:02]
mircea_popescu get lost. we really don't give a shit either way. [03:03]
mircea_popescu !down ninjashogun [03:03]
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mircea_popescu if anyone ever googles this idiot : there are better ways to flush your money down a toilet. [03:04]
mircea_popescu including the literal. [03:04]
mats_cd03 do they ship to the us cazalla? can't seem to find it [03:05]
cazalla mats_cd03, prolly not [03:05]
mircea_popescu given that i have like 2lbs of chocolate right here, which i just bought today, it's a wonder we're not the fattest people online. [03:05]
mircea_popescu what with all this chocolate conneisseurship [03:05]
mats_cd03 well now i'm just disappointed [03:05]
jurov just today i came across an adverticle about "need to increas VC penetration in Slovakia" [03:10]
jurov i was like, myeah, better WC penetration would be handy sometims [03:10]
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punkman speaking of belgium, http://www.maisondandoy.com/en/order/ [03:22]
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cazalla no news about so far today [03:27]
cazalla afterall, i wouldn't want anyone to think i'm slacking [03:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00077792 = 6.7679 BTC [-] [03:33]
thestringpuller i have news [03:34]
thestringpuller "still no updates on punkbot" [03:34]
thestringpuller jkjk punkman [03:35]
punkman what I just gave status update [03:35]
thestringpuller I was just trolling! I'm sorry I couldn't resist. [03:36]
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punkman I am already humiliated by letting invalid deed pass through [03:36]
punkman (but I just deleted it from db, ha!) [03:36]
thestringpuller scandalous! [03:37]
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punkman 437 people in assbot's l2, 2.9mb pubring [03:41]
mircea_popescu I am already humiliated by letting invalid deed pass through << how did that happen ? [03:42]
punkman gpg library lied to me, and also I suck [03:42]
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punkman (library docs) [03:43]
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cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/jeffrey-robinson-bitcoin-used-by-terrorists/ [03:50]
assbot Jeffrey Robinson: Bitcoin Used By Terrorists | Qntra.net [03:50]
mircea_popescu ;;google Jeffrey Robinson [03:51]
gribble Jeffrey Robinson, Author & Journalist: ; Jeffrey Robinson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Jeffrey Robinson | Rutgers Business School: [03:51]
mircea_popescu ohic. dude that'd totally know what he's talking about. [03:52]
mircea_popescu also in the news : jeffrey robinson is a fraudulent grant eater that's spent 100's of thousands off the public treasury and has yet to produce anything of value. [03:59]
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punkman punkbot, status [04:02]
punkbot punkman: No pending deeds | Last bundle 2 hours and 27 minutes ago [04:02]
punkman punkbot, balance [04:02]
punkbot punkman: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.01603 BTC (0.0 unconfirmed), enough for 145 more bundles. [04:02]
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punkman punkbot, deed http://dpaste.com/18E29HJ [04:07]
punkbot punkman: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. [04:07]
assbot dpaste: 18E29HJ [04:07]
punkman we'll pay $0.03575 for that silly deed! [04:10]
punkman thestringpuller: ^ give it a try [04:11]
punkman .status [04:11]
punkbot punkman: 1 pending deed | Last bundle 2 hours and 36 minutes ago [04:11]
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punkman mircea_popescu: should I give deedwallet password to you or kakobrekla for safekeeping? [04:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.0007789 = 5.1797 BTC [+] [04:16]
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punkman .status [04:28]
punkbot punkman: 1 pending deed | Last bundle 2 hours and 53 minutes ago [04:28]
mircea_popescu punkbot sure, give it to kako [04:31]
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punkman heh INFO 2014-11-02T02:28:41 Not replying to sure, in #bitcoin-assets, not a command. [04:31]
mircea_popescu oops :p [04:32]
punkman .deed http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/000004.html [04:32]
punkbot punkman: No valid deeds found, try again. (invalid: 1) [04:32]
kakobrekla mps wot is larger number. give it to mp. [04:32]
punkbot Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1KFaXF5J [04:32]
assbot Bundle 1KFaXF5J | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [04:32]
punkman success! https://blockchain.info/tx/aaa9c986ae676a6970eb180fe38368bca16b143cd0ca74821893d08b7e5b664e [04:33]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction aaa9c986ae676a6970eb180fe38368bca16b143cd0ca74821893d08b7e5b664e [04:33]
mircea_popescu amazing success! [04:33]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [04:33]
punkman btw notice deed address is 1Law [04:33]
mircea_popescu yay! [04:33]
punkman .balance [04:34]
punkbot punkman: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.01603 BTC (-0.00011 unconfirmed), enough for 145 more bundles. [04:34]
punkman .status [04:34]
punkbot punkman: No pending deeds | Last bundle 1 minute ago | 1 unconfirmed bundle [04:34]
mircea_popescu these argentinian dudes are so fucktarded it's hard to put into words. so there's a few streets in the financial district where literally 100s of derps hawk "cambio, cambio!" trying to get some paper benjies for their locally-printed toilet paper. all day long. [04:35]
mircea_popescu saturday night tho ? ZERO! i don't mean, most of the fat ones with good business didn't bother, leav ing just a few of the sketchier, hungrier fellows. no, i mean exactly zero. as if saturday night is not a time. not part of the world. does not exist. [04:36]
mircea_popescu the exact fucking antihussle. i wonder what the fuck dope dealers are doing, because i find it hard to believe argentine junkies all keep a stash. [04:36]
punkman is financial district busy saturday night? [04:37]
mircea_popescu what difference does it make ? [04:38]
mircea_popescu take a tour through the red light district, sometime. the hookers are out whether there's johns or not. [04:38]
mircea_popescu because THAT IS THEIR MOTHERFUCKING JOB. [04:38]
mircea_popescu they have to suck a lot of cock for that foot of sidewalk. it's not like somehow magically it's not a sidewalk anymore between 13:30 and 14:25 [04:39]
punkbot Confirmed bundle 1KFaXF5JX8V3N1oPtWBXttVZfXn7KCR4fJ | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1KFaXF5J [04:39]
assbot Bundle 1KFaXF5J | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [04:39]
punkman meat for punkbot today! [04:40]
mircea_popescu that's quintessentially why it's called the hustle. because you fucking hustle. if it were an office job it'd just be, the office job. [04:40]
punkman kakobrekla: maybe add link to deeds. on other pages [04:42]
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cazalla must be a good sign when people are posting unsolicited links to qntra on 4chan http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44973425 [04:45]
assbot /g/ - What bitcoin tumbler do you recommend /g/? I want [04:45]
punkman cazalla: ah nice [04:46]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/jardin-botanico-carlos-thays-buenos-aires/ [05:21]
assbot Jardin Botanico Carlos Thays - Buenos Aires pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:21]
mircea_popescu cazalla well, it's a sign that qntra is used by terrorists. [05:22]
cazalla used is ok, as long as it is not written by terrorists [05:23]
punkman you sure about that? [05:23]
mircea_popescu it's clearly written b y terrorists. [05:24]
mircea_popescu you strike terror in the heart of wankstream media [05:24]
cazalla Jardin Botanico Carlos Thays <<< this looks photoshopped [05:24]
mircea_popescu not to mention wankstream "entrepreneurs" [05:24]
mircea_popescu cazalla which one ? [05:24]
cazalla first one of course [05:24]
mircea_popescu no, it totally read "welcome to the land of the derpy" in the original. [05:25]
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cazalla sounds like amir really is fucked up on drugs [05:30]
cazalla "trying to help Amir, rehabilitate Amir.." [05:31]
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punkman cazalla: there's a typo missing, Arse News [05:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00077853 = 8.486 BTC [-] [05:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00077883 = 14.2136 BTC [+] {2} [05:40]
thestringpuller slow news weekend [05:45]
mircea_popescu cazalla seriously, oding is the best thing for the guy. [05:55]
thestringpuller http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/technology/warp/warpstat_prt.htm [05:55]
mircea_popescu if he's clean he's obnoxiously stupid. at least he could get out, happy ending all around. [05:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://bitbet.us/bet/859/cardano-to-ship-in-2014/#c4213 [05:57]
assbot BitBet - Cardano to Ship in 2014 :: 1.08 B (41%) on Yes, 1.53 B (59%) on No | closing in 1 month 3 weeks | weight: 24`933 (100`000 to 1) [05:57]
cazalla mircea_popescu, he has a sponsor in cody wilson by the sounds of it, http://qntra.net/2014/11/cody-wilson-the-bitcoin-community-has-sold-out/ [06:00]
assbot Cody Wilson: "The Bitcoin Community Has Sold Out" | Qntra.net [06:00]
cazalla slow news weekend <<< yup, i think the article as above are probably good for weekends [06:06]
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mircea_popescu im trying to remember who the fuck cody is again [06:18]
mircea_popescu o, the 3d print your gun guy, innit ? [06:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18183 @ 0.00077764 = 14.1398 BTC [-] {3} [06:19]
mircea_popescu yeah, he had some real derpage going on, yet another dood thought himself too good for the wot, then his shit went nowhere, then he failed to go "o hey, you know what my problem is ? i fucked up on the wot score! let me fix that". [06:19]
mircea_popescu im sure it's something else. "the community sold out", "the aliens hate me", plenty on the stupidlist. [06:20]
cazalla 3d gun got australian pollies in a tizzy, some were floating the idea of a licence for 3d printers [06:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18183 @ 0.00077681 = 14.1247 BTC [-] {4} [06:43]
punkman http://bitbet.us/bet/1046/gold-above-1200-on-november-1st/ [06:46]
assbot BitBet - Gold above $1200 on November 1st :: 1.07 B (66%) on Yes, 0.54 B (34%) on No | closed 2 weeks 4 hours ago [06:46]
punkman such scam [06:46]
punkman doesn't even trade on Nov 1 [06:46]
punkman ;;bc,xau [06:49]
gribble 1 XAU = 1174.4 USD = 3.59132748234 BTC [06:49]
cazalla sorry but that is hilarious [06:50]
punkman yeah I guess, a little lost on me [06:50]
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TheNewDeal punkman, I think that gold bet was actually structured intelligently [06:53]
punkman TheNewDeal: I'd like it more if it said "yes if gold closes at $1200 or more on friday" [06:54]
TheNewDeal anyone could have checked the date, right? [06:54]
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punkman sure [06:55]
TheNewDeal I'm not sure if it was an accident, or on purpose. However, if it were on purpose, I applaud the author for a well crafted bet [06:56]
TheNewDeal because it read so similar to a lot of those other bets, but like you said, it was basically "gold closes above 1200" [06:57]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: "the aliens hate me" << this is a valid excuse when it comes to Klingons no? [06:59]
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punkman the source code https://github.com/extempore/deedbundler [07:11]
assbot extempore/deedbundler · GitHub [07:11]
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thestringpuller punkman: who can upload deeds? is there an "approved users" list? [08:28]
TheNewDeal thought anyone could? [08:38]
TheNewDeal .balance [08:40]
punkbot TheNewDeal: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.01592 BTC (0.0 unconfirmed), enough for 144 more bundles. [08:40]
TheNewDeal .status [08:40]
punkbot TheNewDeal: No pending deeds | Last bundle 4 hours and 7 minutes ago [08:40]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla btw you ever seen saint john of las vegas ? [08:50]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal thestringpuller people in l2. same as voice. [08:51]
TheNewDeal satoshi, get in that l2 [08:52]
mircea_popescu punkman your github alias is... "extempore" ?! [08:54]
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mircea_popescu do you also have a music band called psykosis or something ? [08:55]
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mircea_popescu http://oglaf.com/legacy/ << us policy in a cartoonshell [09:24]
assbot Legacy [09:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9434 @ 0.00077901 = 7.3492 BTC [+] [09:24]
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TheNewDeal the alt text adds in well [09:28]
mircea_popescu !up psychouroboros [09:28]
-assbot- You voiced psychouroboros for 30 minutes. [09:28]
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mircea_popescu close enough, i'll take it [09:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00077216 = 4.7874 BTC [-] [09:54]
[]bot Bet placed: 7 BTC for No on "Silver price over $23/oz in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/972/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.92196987 BTC. Current weight: 18,987. [09:55]
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punkman nobody wants to mine this deed tx https://blockchain.info/tx/6968268ccd854ca4c3caccab830341ccbc11ce629a7c2462a89103c3e98221c7 [20:06]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction 6968268ccd854ca4c3caccab830341ccbc11ce629a7c2462a89103c3e98221c7 [20:06]
punkman do I need to broadcast more aggressively, or do we need to change standard tx to 0.001 [20:07]
mircea_popescu is it evil in the eyes of the mining goblins ? [20:07]
mircea_popescu well, how long has it been waiting ? [20:07]
punkman dunno 4 hours or so [20:08]
mircea_popescu eh give it a day [20:08]
mircea_popescu it's a deed register not a strip club. [20:08]
punkman so if I want to make the next bundle, do start making chains of 0confs? [20:08]
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punkman (from ad on bc.info https://freestateproject.org/blockchain ) [20:10]
mircea_popescu "do start making chains of 0confs" << didn't parse [20:10]
assbot Get Out of Doge! Escape to the Final Frontier | Free State Project [20:10]
mircea_popescu lmao jesus. [20:10]
punkman yeah let me restate [20:10]
mircea_popescu well scams are mostly targetted to the scammed. it's how that game works. [20:11]
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punkman so if I spend the only unspent tx in the address for a new bundle, previous tx is gonna get dropped right [20:11]
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mircea_popescu oh [20:12]
mircea_popescu yeah it is. you'll have to queue but not broadcast the next tx until this one gets included. [20:12]
mircea_popescu this sounds bad but it is acutally good, because it gives us a method to manage the problem. ie, to distinguish between accidental and "we really should increase tx size" [20:13]
ben_vulpes doge? [20:14]
ben_vulpes dodge. [20:14]
ben_vulpes jesus, you people. [20:14]
ben_vulpes it's an actual fucking city, you nincompoops. [20:14]
mircea_popescu motor city you mean ? :D [20:14]
punkman .balance [20:14]
punkbot punkman: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.01592 BTC (-0.00011 unconfirmed), enough for 144 more bundles. [20:14]
mircea_popescu you can even code it in : when the queue exceeds 24 hours with more than 3 bundles waiting, or 48 with more than 0, increase tx size by 50% [20:15]
mircea_popescu 1LAwr. hey punkman did you mine for it or pure chance ? [20:16]
punkman picked it out the initial list electrum generated [20:16]
mircea_popescu how long was the list ? [20:16]
punkman 10 or so [20:16]
mircea_popescu pretty impressive. [20:16]
punkbot Confirmed bundle 1KxPj5PyuzckgS7iearS7NiBDKeRZvc7VL | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1KxPj5Py [20:18]
assbot Bundle 1KxPj5Py | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [20:18]
punkman little puzzle I made: http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/HEvYcqtx [20:18]
assbot Deed HEvYcqtx | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [20:18]
punkman hah [20:18]
mircea_popescu I wonder how many people hit on incredibly improbable but bothersome stuff like 1smallC0K or 1yoMOMMAisHO or 1JeSuSgAy w/e and as a result think bitcoin is evil and gather around the hater sites. [20:18]
punkman puzzle deed just confirmed [20:18]
mircea_popescu maybe pankkake tried to generate a bitcoin address, itcame out as 1systemdsux and his head explody [20:19]
punkman lol so mean [20:19]
mircea_popescu who me, mean ?! [20:20]
punkman so bot updates trust list every 6 hours, should I make it spit out a message when it gets new keys? [20:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.0007751 = 6.8596 BTC [-] [20:22]
punkman (4 since yesterday) [20:22]
mircea_popescu yes. in here. [20:23]
thestringpuller i don't think the redditards understand the consequences of a hardfork ~_~ [20:24]
thestringpuller "Yea! This is great idea Gavin, hardfork == good!" [20:24]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller a) the notion that a reddit account = a person is rather bizarre. see http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/ by now i'd guess less than 10% are actual people ; b) this is in no way remarkable, they understand nothing of absolutely any other topic they consider, be it politics, sexual relationships or raising snails. this seems to have relatively little impact or importance outside of the [20:25]
mircea_popescu ir wankfest bubble. [20:25]
assbot Spamming reddit, an “experiment”. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:25]
mircea_popescu so in short, nonpeople nonunderstanding nontopics. internet 4 winz. [20:26]
thestringpuller it's bizarre, but not unsurprising. similar to phenomenon of how people blindly follow what's told to them on Fox News or CNN. [20:28]
thestringpuller s/people/lemmings [20:28]
mircea_popescu well, "follow". you know ? whether usians believe X topic they have no control or influence over to be a or b, and whether they believe they have a lot or a little control over x topic they have no control over are in the end irrelevant. [20:29]
mircea_popescu whether someone thinks the sun comes out for their merits or for their sins is entirely their problem, as it were. [20:29]
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thestringpuller well these (the redditards) are the same breed of lemmings that truly believe the sun rises in the west if the talking head on tv tells them it does. [20:30]
mircea_popescu nah, that's easily disprovable by observation [20:31]
mircea_popescu they believe things more akin to "the moon is made of cheeze" and "jews did nyc" [20:31]
thestringpuller "nah, that's easily disprovable by observation [20:31]
thestringpuller ^- there was a recent post on reddit about a guy who took his girlfriend to the west coast to view the sunrise [20:32]
mircea_popescu "elvis lives, feminism matters, we can save africa/the world/other entities that don't care to be saved nor do they care about us", stuff like that. [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5397 @ 0.0007751 = 4.1832 BTC [-] [20:32]
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thestringpuller http://cointelegraph.com/news/112846/bitbet-fairlay-betmoose-meet-bitcoins-prediction-markets << bitbet makes an appearance [20:37]
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mircea_popescu "let [20:44]
mircea_popescu eh why even bother. nm. [20:44]
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ben_vulpes "in 1999, the Mexican-American organization LatinosUSA organized a boycott against Spic and Span because of the use of the word spic," [20:47]
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mircea_popescu and c-span organised a boycott against it, because, welll.... [21:01]
mircea_popescu you guessed it. [21:01]
mircea_popescu also, i thought mexicans were tejanos not latinos. [21:02]
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chetty http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/29/fbi-powers-hacking-computers-surveillance [21:08]
assbot FBI demands new powers to hack into computers and carry out surveillance | US news | theguardian.com [21:08]
mircea_popescu lol [21:13]
xiando "We'd just like to make sure we won't get in trouble for what we have already been doing for years down the line" -FBI [21:20]
ben_vulpes lady v discovered the model-turned-pilot instagram community: http://instagram.com/p/uO0yVUFbQv/?modal=true [21:31]
assbot Instagram [21:31]
ben_vulpes http://instagram.com/ameliaroseearhart [21:33]
assbot Instagram [21:33]
mircea_popescu anyone recall what fluffypony 's blog was ? [21:37]
mircea_popescu duh i have an article for this nm. http://blog.spagni.net/ [21:39]
assbot My Arbitrary Thoughts: Because my opinion matters. Apparently. [21:39]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-ideal-social-systems-reprint/ [21:53]
assbot The problem of ideal social systems - reprint pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [21:53]
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ben_vulpes hey mike_c how much did WoL make this month? [22:11]
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mike_c mp has the numbers, not sure I should scoop the statement. [22:12]
ben_vulpes :/ [22:13]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/mirrorimage/ [22:13]
assbot Mirror Image [22:13]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes it's getting published, what's the hgurry ? [22:18]
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jurov punkbot, deed http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201410.txt.asc [22:39]
punkbot jurov: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. [22:39]
BingoBoingo .deed http://dpaste.com/3127ETZ.txt [22:42]
punkbot BingoBoingo: No valid deeds found, try again. (invalid: 1) [22:42]
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mircea_popescu omg bingoboingo was an impostor! [22:48]
ben_vulpes .deed http://therealbitcoin.org/charter-D2D031DA.asc [22:49]
punkbot ben_vulpes: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. [22:49]
ben_vulpes sweet. [22:49]
ben_vulpes mod6: i'll let you do the honors with yours. [22:50]
ben_vulpes .status [22:51]
punkbot ben_vulpes: 2 pending deeds | Last bundle 6 hours and 32 minutes ago [22:51]
thestringpuller !s grok [22:51]
assbot 77 results for 'grok' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=grok [22:51]
thestringpuller the word grok needs to be used more [22:51]
punkbot Bundled 2 deeds | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1KcphTS5 [22:52]
assbot Bundle 1KcphTS5 | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [22:52]
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mircea_popescu punkman this shiot's pretty cool! [22:52]
punkbot Confirmed bundle 1KcphTS5Jh3dWBfXkCmVNnSsJJ5cW8jRi7 | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1KcphTS5 [22:54]
assbot Bundle 1KcphTS5 | #bitcoin-assets deed registry [22:54]
ben_vulpes dang [22:54]
ben_vulpes now i wish that i'd submitted mod6's signature with mine. [22:55]
ben_vulpes 'twould have been awesome to have both sigs on the charter in the same deed :( [22:55]
mircea_popescu you can still submit it neh ? [22:57]
mircea_popescu doesn't have to be YOURS [22:57]
ben_vulpes yeah, ofc. [22:57]
ben_vulpes but now the bundle's sealed. [22:57]
mircea_popescu oh it already went huh. [22:57]
ben_vulpes *shrug* [22:57]
ben_vulpes lessons, lessons. [22:57]
mircea_popescu hey, maybe we name this lesson after you. [22:58]
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ben_vulpes i will be remembered for derping in public. [22:58]
ben_vulpes this is fitting. [22:58]
mircea_popescu http://www.misscruelty.com/galleries/em3/party/ << check out the sheer frozen boredom in there. [22:59]
assbot The English Mansion - Big femdom party. Some slave serve to Mistresses, some get punished. [22:59]
mircea_popescu how the fuck can these people make anything they touch stolid. [22:59]
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mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel: heh <<< i like the guy's specifications skills tho. [23:08]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel: no more fucking with browser versions, just abstract over one version in particular and never again upgrade. <<< this sounds just like... [23:08]
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BingoBoingo ;;ident [23:13]
gribble Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None [23:13]
BingoBoingo .deed http://dpaste.com/3127ETZ.txt [23:13]
punkbot BingoBoingo: No valid deeds found, try again. (invalid: 1) [23:13]
punkman hmm [23:14]
mircea_popescu http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/20/software-doesnt-fail-socialism-does/#comment-4377 << holy shit ? [23:15]
assbot Software Doesn’t Fail. Socialism Does. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski [23:15]
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mircea_popescu pete is now so on top of things he quotes stuff i published minutes prior. [23:15]
mircea_popescu !up mnmx [23:15]
-assbot- You voiced mnmx for 30 minutes. [23:15]
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jurov r;;ident BingoBoingo [23:16]
jurov ;;ident BingoBoingo [23:16]
gribble Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None [23:16]
jurov it says bad signature here, too [23:16]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo is this a line end problem ? [23:16]
BingoBoingo Maybe? [23:17]
BingoBoingo Trying a different editor nao [23:17]
mircea_popescu gpg: BAD signature from "BingoBoingo [23:17]
BingoBoingo .deed http://dpaste.com/3HEATQA.txt [23:18]
punkbot BingoBoingo: No valid deeds found, try again. (invalid: 1) [23:18]
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mircea_popescu gpg: Good signature Primary key fingerprint: ADD7 A9A2 8F85 E5EF 1F51 904F 309B B8D7 F325 1143 [23:18]
mircea_popescu you signed with a subkey ? [23:19]
punkman should still work [23:19]
punkman I think [23:19]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski: either way, it does appear that every 5th mircea_popescu comment gets eaten by contravex's spam filter << just happened again lol [23:19]
mircea_popescu punkman: saint john of las vegas ? << think I've seen that, what's mp's take on it << i thought it was somewhat similar to dead man. just as totally fucking absurd and meaningless, but not unpleasant neveretheless. [23:20]
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mircea_popescu mostly because that reanimated corpse of buscemi is a very great weird actor. [23:21]
punkman he just finished his tv gig, wonder where he'll pop up next [23:22]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: the downside to an unlimited buy wall as a consulting shop is the imperative to eat through as much of it as possible in the time allotted <<< ever seen http://trilema.com/2012/cum-iti-negociezi-salariul/ ? [23:23]
assbot Cum iti negociezi salariul ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:23]
bounce on the destructive effects of marketing: http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2014/11/02/whatever_happened_to_photography/ [23:23]
assbot Snapper's decisions: Whatever happened to REAL photography? • The Register [23:23]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes:... $8500 << ... in excees of 300 dollars a month << you have to understand, 300 a month may well be the threshold of "minimum we'd pay for servers". because it's a tiny sum. [23:24]
mircea_popescu 9k not the same, i don't care what the pretense at hand is. [23:24]
mircea_popescu "evolutionary path from amateur to professional has been economically closed off by marketing." <<< there isn't going to be a professional photographer anymore than there's going to be a professional dresser. [23:25]
mircea_popescu it's become a natural function, it's not going away. [23:25]
BingoBoingo .deed http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/mpifclosing.txt [23:26]
punkbot BingoBoingo: No valid deeds found, try again. (invalid: 1) [23:26]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: granted, 300/mo is a piddling amount. [23:26]
bounce that is to misunderstand the point completely [23:26]
ben_vulpes but when the codemachine could run just as easily on 60/year... [23:26]
mircea_popescu bounce state the point ? [23:26]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes depends, maybe the 240 a month goes into creating a relationship with the provider or w/e. at that level, the skill of the manager is much more important than technical considerations. think of it, most embasies cost more than they have to. [23:27]
jurov BingoBoingo: if you do gpg --homedir /tmp --recv-keys 309BB8D7F3251143 , does it verify? [23:27]
bounce try and read the thing without assuming there won't be a professional photographer. there will be, just like photography didn't kill the painter. [23:27]
jurov using that homedir [23:28]
mircea_popescu bounce o, it hasn't ? [23:28]
mircea_popescu in what way ? [23:28]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/cum-iti-negociezi-salariul/ << i harbor no illusions that i'm anything but pleb scum, turning cranks for capital [23:28]
assbot Cum iti negociezi salariul ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:28]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes point remains, when you have a buy wall you increase the price, rather thna flatten yourself against it. [23:29]
ben_vulpes in retrospect though i probably could have negotiated half up front and charged another 25%. [23:29]
bounce nope. there's still painters around. shit, the 'web even gave rise to a whole new generation of amateurs and among them do progress to professional [23:29]
ben_vulpes i've learned this lesson - again. [23:29]
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mircea_popescu bounce your argument that "there's still deluded idiots pretending that "painter" is an adequate synonym for "bum" " fails to support your earlier assertion that "photography hasn't killed painting". [23:30]
mircea_popescu there are, of course, still prohpets around. doesn't mean religion ain't dead. [23:31]
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bounce you're not making much sense here, sorry. [23:32]
ninjashogun !down ninjashogun [23:32]
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mircea_popescu there can't be a professional painter anymore. the last professional was godward ( http://trilema.com/2010/lumea-nu-i-de-ajuns/ srsly). he killed himself, because the world was taken over by marketers [23:33]
assbot Lumea nu-i de-ajuns pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:33]
mircea_popescu specifically, picasso and the rest of the warhol ilk. [23:33]
mircea_popescu old story. [23:33]
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mircea_popescu actually dali should probably get mention as the chief marketing whore rather than those two. makes little difference anyway. [23:38]
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BingoBoingo .deed http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/mpifclosing.txt.asc [23:39]
punkbot BingoBoingo: No valid deeds found, try again. (invalid: 1) [23:39]
mircea_popescu gpg: Signature made Sun 02 Nov 2014 11:29:39 PM EET using RSA key ID F3251143 [23:40]
mircea_popescu gpg: Good signature from "BingoBoingo [23:40]
mircea_popescu punkman there's gotta be soemthing the matter owht the bot [23:40]
BingoBoingo First deedbot didn't like me either... [23:41]
kakobrekla i found the problem in hte source [23:41]
bounce a quick search and I run into literally dozens of artists taking comissions, so not buying it, sorry. [23:41]
kakobrekla if bingo then go fuck yourself < problem [23:42]
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BingoBoingo !b 3 [23:42]
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mircea_popescu bounce why do you think "people calling themselves artists and asking for money" is an argument ? [23:42]
mircea_popescu i can find even more astrologers taking comissions, does this mean astrology is alive and well ? [23:43]
bounce similarly, plenty people snapshotting and not producing anything good, yet there's still a few who manage to produce decent photographs. [23:43]
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mircea_popescu heck, i can probably find people soliciting to protect the us from alien invasion. [23:43]
bounce has astrology declined in influence? [23:43]
mircea_popescu what's your measure of influence ? [23:43]
mircea_popescu it has exactly no influence as i measure it. [23:44]
bounce so it was never important to you [23:44]
mircea_popescu no, no. it was never important, as i measure it. [23:44]
mircea_popescu that's not "to me". [23:44]
mircea_popescu chick goes to mp's great-granddad in 1514 "hey, this chick is born in so and so sign, marry her!" mp's granddad "hm, that;s an idea" [23:45]
mircea_popescu chick comes to me, "hey, this chick is born in so and so sign, marry her" i'm "leave here and never speak to me again" [23:45]
bounce that's only four generations, to span 500 years. I'm impressed. [23:46]
mircea_popescu i suppose since nancy reagan was hiring court astrologers the argument can be brought that the colonies were slower on the uptake, but be that as it may... [23:46]
mircea_popescu bacon killed astrology pretty much. [23:46]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: astrology is alive and well - under new brands (e.g., 'economics') [23:49]
mircea_popescu bounce anyway, to summarize : the discussion as to whether a profession is doing ok or not, or even is still alive, can not rely on a discussion on they who call themselves followers. [23:49]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it cannot die for so long as so-called decision makers want their 'responsibility sink' mechanism. [23:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but a claim is not a fact. [23:50]
asciilifeform claim is not a fact << when talking about a scam, the claim is the fact (that is, the fact of the scam being set up as such or other) [23:51]
mircea_popescu but i thought we were talking about the fact. [23:52]
asciilifeform 'responsibility sink' is simply my shorthand for any apparatus which lets you 'make a decision' without putting your arse on the line as decision-maker. [23:52]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes yes, all the benefits of being a prince in terms of the harem girls' awe, none of the risks in terms of the other dudes beheading you. i know all about the mental processes supporting adolescent frottage [23:53]
asciilifeform this, afaik, goes back maxint years. [23:53]
bounce there's a market for hand-painted portraits just as there is a market for professionally-done photographs. the argument re the latter is that the marketeering is busily making the required machinery unaffordable. my point was the mechanism at work. [23:53]
mircea_popescu not so many. just as many as poorly managed youth existed. it's a lengthy history full of gaps. [23:53]
mircea_popescu bounce what is this market for "professionally done photographs", wherein the definition of "professionally" is coherent with pre-digital photography ? [23:54]
bounce "policy driven fact finding" (see david nutt's firing) [23:54]
bounce who says pre-digital? [23:54]
mircea_popescu you. [23:54]
bounce no, [23:54]
mircea_popescu then yes, there's a market for marketing-approved photography. [23:54]
asciilifeform re: photographers: situation is rather like bulldozer operators. machine costing half of a plebe's yearly pay. you rent it, and it happens to come with operator who is mostly certain not to break it, and knows approximately which knobs to turn to dig the ditch, err, snap the photo. [23:54]
mircea_popescu to argue that marketing is doing this in is absurd. [23:54]
bounce hmhm yet it's doing it, as a side effect of its market research and segmentation science. [23:56]
jurov your argumetn feels to me like saying since homosexuality is marketing-trending there are no real fags anymore [23:56]
mircea_popescu but by definition it can not. whatever it comes up with is actually the marketing-approved photography and all is well. [23:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26733 @ 0.0007707 = 20.6031 BTC [-] {2} [23:56]
mircea_popescu jurov i bring as proof the difficulty real fags have in dating. [23:57]
jurov that's another thing. does not mean the real ones died out [23:57]
jurov professional photographers must have difficulty finding their ilk, too [23:57]
mircea_popescu might mean that, actually. [23:57]
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