Forum logs for 02 May 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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rithm isn't this sunlot dude coingenuity's old partner [00:01]
nanotube kakobrekla: bonus: do one command. gettrust [ident nick] [00:01]
rithm irc nick shaded [00:01]
BingoBoingo http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/14/05/01/1656209/openbsd-55-released [00:02]
ozbot OpenBSD 5.5 Released - Slashdot [00:02]
rithm kakobrekla: why? the private !up knows what nick it is coming from. should then just ask gribble 'ident ' [00:02]
rithm ^ i have a feeling i wouldn't have to change nicks then [00:02]
rithm to voice myself [00:02]
kakobrekla too bad feelings dont write code [00:02]
rithm yukyukyuk [00:03]
kakobrekla nanotube hm yes that neat trick might do it, ill try it [00:03]
* rithm hands kakobrekla a cookie anyways [00:03]
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bounce http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/01/van-rompuy-says-europe-will-expand-without-public-backing [00:03]
ozbot Van Rompuy: If The Public Doesn't Want EU Expansion, 'We Do It Anyway' [00:03]
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fluffypony lol [00:03]
bounce how'd that work for mr [\]? [00:03]
fluffypony chocolate chip cookie? [00:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00097119 = 4.6132 BTC [-] [00:06]
assbot [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 5000 @ 0.00021725 = 1.0863 BTC [+] [00:07]
jurov you know how they do it? they repeat a referendum until they get Yes [00:08]
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bounce everybody knows by now, but the europhile eurocrats don't care; the people, even the national governments, can no longer stop it [00:10]
fluffypony bilateral gynandromorph (half male, half female) butterfly - http://i.imgur.com/TJAO9gJ.jpg [00:16]
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BigBitz fluffypony ! [00:20]
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BigBitz Y U SO NASTY? [00:21]
BigBitz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583152.0 [00:21]
ozbot [HAVELOCK] (Seedcoin SF2) Global Coin FX - UK HQ Virtual Currency Exchange [00:21]
fluffypony lol [00:21]
fluffypony that wasn't nasty [00:21]
BigBitz :) [00:21]
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BingoBoingo https://www.tunnelbear.com/ [00:22]
ozbot TunnelBear [00:22]
BingoBoingo WTF [00:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 143 @ 0.0058 = 0.8294 BTC [+] [00:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00097138 = 11.5109 BTC [+] {2} [00:24]
dub someone beat firefox with all kinds of ugly [00:24]
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fluffypony dub: is that a statement or a request? [00:25]
thestringpuller i miss you dub [00:25]
thestringpuller where have you been? [00:25]
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thestringpuller listening to the wub wub huh dub dub? [00:25]
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dub indochina [00:26]
dub i been that nigger in a rice bowl waiting to pop a cap [00:26]
BigBitz Hmm. [00:28]
* rithm would see a nigger in a rice bowl for sure [00:30]
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csshih o.o [00:34]
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jurov >.> [00:35]
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kakobrekla <.< [00:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00096888 = 6.5399 BTC [-] {2} [00:36]
fluffypony csshih:) [00:36]
fluffypony my favourite lumen junkie [00:36]
BingoBoingo http://deadspin.com/the-nba-wanted-to-kick-donald-sterling-out-of-the-leagu-1570505417 [00:37]
ozbot The NBA Wanted To Kick Donald Sterling Out Of The League In 1982 [00:37]
csshih is this the new cool kid hangout [00:37]
BingoBoingo of course [00:37]
fluffypony csshih: you know it [00:37]
fluffypony wherever assbot exists is, by definition, cool [00:38]
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kakobreklaa thar. [00:47]
kakobreklaa benkay fixed [00:47]
kakobreklaa and whoever else was complaining [00:47]
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foobutts sweet [00:48]
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benkay ryepdx: you can now !up yourself [00:49]
benkay thanks kakobrekla! [00:49]
kakobrekla yw [00:49]
benkay hue hue hue was v. tempted to thank mp instead [00:49]
kakobrekla ... [00:49]
asciilifeform www.tunnelbear.com << typical honeypot. usg has a sense of humour (bears; honey) [00:50]
BingoBoingo Yeah [00:51]
BingoBoingo I like that the honeypot is covered in Web 2.0MG hipster BBQ sauce [00:51]
asciilifeform one is almost tempted to write a generator for these promos [00:52]
asciilifeform complete with wsj, yahoo, macworld turds [00:52]
BingoBoingo Maybe use Russian Winnie the Pooh [00:52]
asciilifeform a la the faux cs conference paper gen [00:52]
BingoBoingo Would be an interesting thing to have out there. [00:53]
asciilifeform i always thought disney's looked... jaundiced. [00:53]
BingoBoingo Yeah, probably got hepatitis from shooting up with Rabbit [00:54]
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asciilifeform betcha the nsa funding flag for tunnelbear is 'TUNNELRAT' [00:55]
asciilifeform (bonus for vietnam reference) [00:55]
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BingoBoingo Or TUNNELSPIDER for the Saddam reference [00:56]
BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/drunk-nypd-officer-allegedly-shot-a-stranger-6-times-1570270148 [00:57]
ozbot Drunk NYPD Officer Allegedly Shot a Stranger 6 Times [00:57]
Anduck !up supay [00:57]
assbot Voicing supay for 30 minutes. [00:57]
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supay Could someone give me a +1 rep so I could chat here? [00:57]
supay oh [00:57]
Anduck supay: now u can talk for a while [00:57]
supay amazing timing [00:57]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [00:57]
supay I'm authed i guess.. [00:57]
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supay I'm asking for rating on bitcoin-otc [00:58]
supay so that I can continue talking here and learn a thing or two :) [00:58]
BingoBoingo supay: What do you do? [00:59]
supay Im a student. [00:59]
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asciilifeform student of what? [00:59]
supay Computer Science [00:59]
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BingoBoingo !up TurboS_911 [01:00]
assbot Voicing TurboS_911 for 30 minutes. [01:00]
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BingoBoingo !up Checkup [01:00]
assbot Voicing Checkup for 30 minutes. [01:00]
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bounce computer science no science [01:00]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: I'll start thinking about games [01:00]
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jurov supay can you do some programming? [01:02]
supay jurov: Yes I can. [01:02]
jurov what kind? [01:02]
kakobrekla

YES

[01:03]
bounce dat programming [01:03]
supay lol [01:03]
supay Java mainly. [01:03]
BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/ooh-can-we-play-donetsk-or-nevada-please-1570268654 [01:03]
ozbot Nevada Ranch Militias Turn Against Each Other Over Drone-Attack Theory [01:03]
supay But I am very familiar with C and C++. [01:03]
bounce just random ratings don't convey +v in here, by the by [01:03]
supay they dont? [01:04]
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BingoBoingo supay: They need to some from the right people [01:04]
supay oic [01:04]
supay BingoBoingo: will you give me a +1? [01:04]
BingoBoingo supay: Not atm. If you do something that impresses people and provides benefit I might, of course other people might as well. [01:05]
jurov i can give some +1 for 5BTC or considerable coinbr volume >:D [01:05]
BingoBoingo supay: If you hang around idea for things that can be done appear quite frequently [01:06]
supay jurov: I'll give you 1doge. Interested? [01:06]
bounce how does "the price is right" work anyway? [01:06]
supay BingoBoingo: I get it. Good deal. [01:06]
jurov i don't even have a doggone wallet [01:06]
supay I do hope however that someone voices me every half-hour till I get some rating. [01:06]
jurov just a repellant stick on the laptop [01:06]
supay jurov: dogevault.com [01:07]
benkay ;;rate supay 1 ffs [01:07]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user supay has been recorded. [01:07]
kakobrekla yet jurov doge sticker on his lappy is 3 times the size of bitcoin sticker [01:07]
jurov and do you have something important to say? [01:07]
bounce pushover [01:07]
supay gee thanks benkay! [01:07]
benkay don't waste it. [01:08]
kakobrekla yes repellent, you said that. [01:08]
kakobrekla but does it work? imo it would attract newbs. [01:08]
supay benkay: no sir, I shall not! [01:08]
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jurov i'll teach them the error of their ways [01:09]
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kakobrekla big tasks you took upon yourself [01:09]
kakobrekla -s [01:09]
supay jurov: I wonder why you were asking me if I could code? [01:09]
moiety benkay you softy ;P [01:10]
kakobrekla he is, isnt he. [01:10]
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benkay and now the channel is cleared of "plz someone +1 me!" [01:11]
jurov supay just checking, maybe you're usable :) [01:11]
benkay ;;gettrust assbot navhul-lacsup [01:11]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user navhul-lacsup: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=navhul-lacsup | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=navhul-lacsup | Rated since: never [01:11]
benkay !up navhul-lacsup [01:11]
assbot Voicing navhul-lacsup for 30 minutes. [01:11]
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benkay h'lo, sub. [01:11]
bounce now everybody goes "pwease mistah benkay sir, can I haz ratings too?" [01:12]
jurov supay but since you did not mention some own pet projects, i abandoned that inquiry [01:12]
supay jurov: cool. do you code as well? [01:12]
jurov afaik yes [01:12]
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supay jurov: pet projects? [01:13]
supay bounce: lol [01:13]
bounce robot chickens [01:13]
supay love them [01:13]
jurov when i was student, i maintained ziproxy.sourceforge.net [01:13]
* bounce likes it better when police aren't armed. apropos earlier paste. [01:14]
jurov i got some ridiculously positive responses for such lame http proxy server [01:14]
supay ah [01:14]
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supay jurov: interesting project :) [01:15]
bounce little things please little minds [01:15]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.07999 = 0.16 BTC [+] {2} [01:17]
bounce what was that cartoon again? "make stuff work" on a unix and you're incomprehensible, thus ignored. make stuff work on windows and you're a god to be worshipped. [01:17]
supay lol [01:17]
supay shouldn't it be the other way around? [01:17]
supay I find unix more friendly than windows [01:17]
fluffypony I hate windows, but honestly unix is a piece of shit from a usability perspective [01:19]
fluffypony so few cli tools conform to norms, because why bother when you can just do it your way [01:19]
supay fluffypony: it wasn't really created for gui-addicts.. [01:19]
fluffypony supay: I think you miss my point; I am far from a "gui-addict" [01:20]
supay oh, okay. [01:21]
supay It is difficult to use, most will agree with you on that. [01:21]
jurov prolly supay is still young and eager to scour manpages for some simple function [01:21]
supay nah, I just use google [01:21]
benkay why read man pages when you can just curl2sudo some ruby brogrammer's work? [01:22]
fluffypony lol [01:22]
supay lol :) [01:22]
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fluffypony here [01:24]
fluffypony supay [01:24]
fluffypony http://xkcd.com/1168/ [01:24]
ozbot xkcd: tar [01:24]
fluffypony after nearly 20 years of tar I still forget how to use it all the time [01:24]
fluffypony and I'm not talking about -cjvf and -xvf [01:24]
supay LMFAO [01:24]
supay so true [01:24]
mircea_popescu hmm i think i had a good reason regarding that lemme think << pwned. [01:24]
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bounce what? tar tvf - is "a" valid tar command [01:25]
mircea_popescu you know how they do it? they repeat a referendum until they get Yes << and then wonder why bitcoin doesn;t care what they think. [01:25]
mircea_popescu everybody knows by now, but the europhile eurocrats don't care; the people, even the national governments, can no longer stop it << let's bet. [01:26]
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mircea_popescu hue hue hue was v. tempted to thank mp instead << DDDDOOOO ITTTT [01:26]
bounce how'd /you/ go about and "stop it"? [01:26]
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mircea_popescu !up DoctorBTC [01:27]
assbot Voicing DoctorBTC without time-limit. [01:27]
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mircea_popescu supay just read the logs, same thing. [01:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15196 @ 0.00097197 = 14.7701 BTC [+] {2} [01:28]
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mircea_popescu ;;rate supay -1 let's not get carried away [01:29]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user supay has been recorded. [01:29]
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BigBitz lol [01:29]
benkay that'd be the first counterrating. [01:29]
benkay ;;gettrust supay [01:29]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask supay!~supay@unaffiliated/supay. Trust relationship from user benkay to user supay: Level 1: 1, Level 2: -1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=supay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=supay | Rated since: Thu May 1 18:06:55 2014 [01:29]
benkay ;;gettrust assbot supay [01:29]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask supay!~supay@unaffiliated/supay. Trust relationship from user assbot to user supay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=supay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=supay | Rated since: Thu May 1 18:06:55 2014 [01:29]
mircea_popescu we get to test it at least. [01:30]
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benkay hey supay, !up yourself on pm with assbot [01:30]
pankkake I think I remember ziproxy [01:30]
benkay all appears in order. [01:31]
benkay this asseteer in-production testing session is complete and. [01:32]
benkay ;;unrate supay [01:33]
gribble Successfully removed your rating for supay. [01:33]
mircea_popescu ;;unrate supay [01:33]
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gribble Successfully removed your rating for supay. [01:33]
benkay !up supay [01:33]
assbot Voicing supay for 30 minutes. [01:33]
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benkay many thanks to our hapless subject [01:33]
supay that was rude [01:33]
benkay you clearly don't understand the local manners. [01:33]
supay lol [01:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00096624 = 16.3295 BTC [-] {2} [01:34]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu no no the reason is good. [01:34]
benkay eveternoon, moiety [01:34]
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fluffypony and noa [01:36]
fluffypony I sleep. [01:36]
mircea_popescu !up tradingloser [01:36]
assbot Voicing tradingloser for 30 minutes. [01:36]
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tradingloser tesitng one 2 three [01:37]
tradingloser biuxww' [01:37]
tradingloser noice [01:37]
benkay loud n clear [01:37]
tradingloser anyone losing money on cryptostock and havelock. it's killing me [01:37]
BingoBoingo http://hasthewhaleexplodedyet.com/ [01:37]
ozbot Has the whale exploded yet? - Untitled [01:38]
mircea_popescu tradingloser you gotta read the logs. [01:38]
fluffypony tradingloser: I don't use either [01:38]
mike_c tradingloser: if it makes you feel better, everyone who trades on those exchanges loses money. [01:38]
* mircea_popescu just checked stats, was blown away by last...4 days user count being ~above month avg~ [01:38]
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tradingloser okay.. so i guess im in a double whammy.. i suck at trading + on a site where people always lose money.. [01:39]
moiety hey benkay, sorry laptop freaked out on me, how are you? [01:39]
mircea_popescu tradingloser they're called play exchanges for a reason. [01:39]
tradingloser yeah. im jsut here for trying to get some sympathy. [01:40]
tradingloser you're right though. [01:40]
BingoBoingo supay: You know what pretty much everyone here wants? [01:40]
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fluffypony tradingloser: I love you [01:40]
fluffypony ^^sympathy [01:40]
supay BingoBoingo: what? [01:40]
tradingloser that's the most love I gotten since high school. [01:40]
csshih =] [01:41]
fluffypony ok seriously going to bed now, k thx bye [01:41]
mircea_popescu http://jimromenesko.com/2014/05/01/reporter-is-caught-writing-blah-blah-blah-blah-in-notebook-while-candidate-rambles-on/ [01:41]
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ozbot » Reporter is caught writing ‘blah blah blah blah’ in notebook while Senate candidate rambles [01:41]
csshih nite [01:41]
mircea_popescu check out the schoolchildren [01:41]
tradingloser buy pony [01:41]
moiety love == sympathy nao? [01:41]
tradingloser bye* [01:41]
tradingloser moiety, im no lawyer so I guess so. [01:41]
BingoBoingo supay: Well, more implementations of the Bitcoin protocol would be nice. Clean minimalist full node implementations like Conformal did with btcd. [01:41]
supay BingoBoingo: I see.. interesting. [01:42]
benkay moiety: hacking on the porch with the boys [01:42]
benkay it's a glorious day [01:42]
benkay we set a pile of paper on fire earlier [01:42]
BingoBoingo supay: C, LISP, Python.... Language doesn't much matter beyond the thing being suprememly readable and not garbage like bitcoind. [01:43]
supay with a lit match or a magnifying glass benkay ? [01:43]
supay BingoBoingo: Okay.. [01:43]
tradingloser Well hoping for a new start. I took what looks like the remains of neobee and cryptoshitstocks over to bitcoinbourse. hoping for the best. [01:43]
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jurov asps [01:43]
jurov gasps [01:43]
moiety benkay: did that paper deserve to die? [01:43]
benkay hey guys [01:44]
benkay compounding [01:44]
benkay but in the wrong direction, tradingloser [01:44]
benkay moiety: who knows. just got a shredder, shredded a pile, torched it. [01:44]
jurov http://explo.yt/post/2014/04/10/BitcoinBeware <
[01:44]
ozbot BitcoinBeware - serialized delusions [01:44]
BingoBoingo supay: If you don't want to wait for other ideas, looking at this thing could be instructive. [01:44]
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supay BingoBoingo: I agree. Thanks, am looking into it atm. [01:45]
moiety benkay: sounds way better than my day [01:45]
benkay moiety: which was? [01:45]
BingoBoingo supay: Just prolly avoid doing the thing in C++, PHP, or Java if you do try it. [01:45]
tradingloser oh geez.. [01:45]
moiety benkay: just don't feel like a got anything done today and i hate days like that [01:46]
supay Yes of course.. Python should be a better.. [01:46]
moiety i* [01:46]
mircea_popescu Well hoping for a new start. I took what looks like the remains of neobee and cryptoshitstocks over to bitcoinbourse. hoping for the best. <<< ahahah [01:46]
mircea_popescu truely infinite hitpoints [01:46]
BingoBoingo supay: I know you mentioned Java is the main thing you've worked with. What other languages have you played with? [01:47]
tradingloser hopefully the multisig co and casino stock treats me bettter. [01:47]
supay BingoBoingo: I have maximum experience with Java. But my C and Python are pretty good too. Apart from that, I used to develop web apps. I'm great at the LAMP framework. [01:48]
kakobrekla tradingloser you should be thinking about breaking the cycle of bad decisions [01:48]
bounce how's your relational algebra? [01:48]
BingoBoingo supay: What kinds of things have you programmed in the past? [01:49]
benkay ... the LAMP framework. << o.O [01:49]
supay Desktop applications, mobile applications, websites. I have also done some penetration testing. [01:49]
tradingloser kakobrekla.. thats is the worst skill I have. [01:49]
benkay tradingloser: why aren't you happy to hold your coins yet? [01:49]
kakobrekla tradingloser stop then [01:50]
tradingloser greed + pissed off at neobeefuckheads.. [01:50]
tradingloser yeah.. [01:50]
BingoBoingo tradingloser: Have you considered if you can't just hold coins, betting them at BitBet? [01:50]
kakobrekla put your coins in cold storage and lurk here for half a year [01:50]
kakobrekla things will look better afterwards. [01:50]
mircea_popescu ^ [01:52]
tradingloser Honestly, I lost like 88% so I just put it in some escrow verification company that just earns revenue ripping people [01:52]
BingoBoingo ... [01:52]
pankkake if anyone still cares: neobeeQ delisting the 5th [01:53]
mircea_popescu did the neobeeQ compliance officer ask for it ? [01:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.0739125 = 0.2957 BTC [-] {3} [01:53]
BingoBoingo If you lose 88% at anything... How do you continue trying the same approaches that lost you the 88% without at least stopping to take a break? [01:53]
pankkake lel. havelock says they have no response whatsoever so that's the reason [01:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.07060001 = 0.1412 BTC [-] [01:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03379403 = 0.2704 BTC [+] [01:54]
mircea_popescu so allegedly an alleged "compliance officer" that doesn't exist made a request (that doesn't exist) to suspend the trading of a supposed company with real assets that don't exist [01:54]
mircea_popescu and the exchange with the panama registration that doesn't exist complied [01:55]
tradingloser because i did that boring warren buffet thing where you know consistent revenue will come and you buy and hold for a long time. hopefully, multisignature is the future. [01:55]
mircea_popescu then re-opened trading, arbitrarily, on a new symbol, with new authority [01:55]
BingoBoingo tradingloser: That isn't the Buffet thing at all. [01:55]
mircea_popescu adn now are delisting the new symbol because... the inexistent officers of the inexistent company... failed to protest ? [01:55]
mircea_popescu did i get the story right here ? [01:55]
mircea_popescu ok this dude is too fucktarded [01:55]
mircea_popescu !down tradingloser [01:55]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Seems right [01:55]
pankkake I'm afraid so, I forgot about the first suspension [01:56]
mircea_popescu i just had to pour myself a triple drink because well... my brain knotted. [01:58]
punkman next message from Danny will read like this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/536830 [01:58]
benkay wat indeed [01:59]
mircea_popescu "After the events of the last couple of days, we are very disappointed. The kickstarter Montrex project was to help build the Montrex brand. Ultimately, backers destroyed the brand and the reputation of the brand and its team." [01:59]
mircea_popescu dat team. [02:00]
mircea_popescu team gumpy. "we are not fly by night. no. no. no we're not. no. yes we are." [02:00]
mircea_popescu "Because of the damage incurred... Because of the fact that we are being called thieves and con-artists and frauds without having done anything wrong" [02:01]
mircea_popescu i love punkman links. [02:01]
BingoBoingo %book [02:02]
atcbot 22k@223 8k@223 0k@220 | 2k@170 10k@155 53k@152 [02:02]
bounce wtf was up with the montrex drama? get your kickstarter 8x oversubscribed and sue the backers? what? [02:03]
mircea_popescu bounce you don't understand. DEFAMATION. [02:03]
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bounce no, no I don't understand. but I don't think I want to understand either. esp. since I'm all out of drink. [02:04]
mircea_popescu the famous derpfamation [02:04]
BingoBoingo !up supay [02:05]
assbot Voicing supay for 30 minutes. [02:05]
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kakobrekla he can up himself ya know [02:05]
punkman "We are sorry for those who have been damaged by this project, but you individually have definitely been damaged far less than we have been damaged. " < did btctalk come up with this yet? [02:05]
supay thank you BingoBoingo.. [02:05]
supay kakobrekla: no i cant. [02:06]
bounce ;;gettrust assbot supay [02:06]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask supay!~supay@unaffiliated/supay. Trust relationship from user assbot to user supay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=supay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=supay | Rated since: never [02:06]
kakobrekla hm benkay unrated him? [02:07]
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supay e tok bak iz ratingz =( [02:07]
bounce supay: you gotten around to mastering relational algebra, seeing how you claim "lamp stack" familiarity? [02:07]
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supay bounce: I am familiar with relational algebra yes, because I am in the sophomore year at my university and am studying RDBMS. [02:08]
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bounce that's not a given, but good to know. which university? [02:09]
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supay Manipal University. [02:09]
mircea_popescu punkman nop [02:10]
mircea_popescu "Manipal University is a name to reckon with not just in India, but the world over. " [02:10]
mircea_popescu o.O [02:10]
BingoBoingo supay: are you familiar with OpenBSD? [02:10]
bounce because ``Manipal, today, is a knowledge powerhouse and a brand name in higher education.'' [02:10]
bounce just so you know. don't forget to reckon with manipal. [02:11]
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supay BingoBoingo: Not very much tbh. I usually work on Debian, Ubuntu and Arch. [02:11]
supay bounce: what do you mean? [02:12]
mircea_popescu why so belicose lol [02:12]
jurov supay if you "work" then you have something to show, no? [02:12]
BingoBoingo supay: If you wrote a guide to building Bitcoind 0.7 with the modifications to work on the right blockchain, on OpenBSD 5.5 I'd give you a plus one. [02:12]
mircea_popescu punkman https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/540696 << even better. [02:13]
supay wouldnt that be too much work BingoBoingo? :O [02:13]
supay jurov: you mean to ask me for samples of my work? [02:13]
bounce "truly unique" mass-produced thingies. marketeering at work. [02:14]
BingoBoingo supay: It's just building something that already exists. Less work than reimplementing the protocol. [02:14]
supay ah [02:14]
supay let me google that. [02:14]
punkman mircea_popescu: don't see anything there [02:14]
bounce clearly, you aren't a backer. [02:15]
jurov supay, such as, github stuff? [02:15]
BingoBoingo supay: Write a nice guide shoot it to me. I'll give you 0.01 BTC and a 1 rating on the WoT. [02:15]
supay supay: nope. [02:15]
supay BingoBoingo: sure! I'll give it a shot! :) [02:16]
mircea_popescu it's like... secret updates ? [02:16]
mircea_popescu wtf bs is that. [02:16]
BingoBoingo supay: If the like the guide I post it to my blog crediting you as the author and link to your WoT profile. [02:16]
supay That would be really nice. [02:16]
supay I'll get started right away. [02:16]
punkman their rebrand got $444,370 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/watchismo/xeriscope-the-orbiting-mechanical-automatic-watch [02:16]
mircea_popescu https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/654887 [02:17]
ozbot Montrex Watch Project - A Truly Unique Timepiece ( watches ) by Montrex Watches » re-branding updat [02:17]
mircea_popescu and one year later... [02:17]
mircea_popescu rebranding the successful brand that was utterly destroyed and etc. [02:17]
BingoBoingo supay: With OpenBSD remember to read the documentation before you install it. Also remember I want bitcoind 0.7, not the newer bullshit. [02:17]
punkman "This is the kind of stuff with which I have to deal due to the cyberbullying attacks on me.  The girl, Allison, who was supposed to start working here, today, was a no-call, no-show. " [02:17]
mircea_popescu usagi bit her. [02:17]
supay BingoBoingo: yeah, got it! :) [02:17]
punkman https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/550182 [02:18]
BingoBoingo Been a while since the Usagi name was invoked here. [02:18]
ozbot Montrex Watch Project - A Truly Unique Timepiece ( watches ) by Montrex Watches » No new assistant. [02:18]
BingoBoingo supay: Good deal. [02:18]
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supay BingoBoingo: yes, and thanks! :) [02:18]
mircea_popescu punkman basically, this is the bitcoin mining "projects" 100% [02:18]
bounce did they deliver anything in the meantime? [02:19]
mircea_popescu sure. [02:19]
mircea_popescu like you know, bfl. [02:19]
bounce other than more drama [02:19]
mircea_popescu Luke-Jr got a watch. [02:19]
BingoBoingo lol [02:19]
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BingoBoingo Did he SSH into the watch? [02:19]
mircea_popescu anyway, im making a post out of this. [02:20]
punkman mircea_popescu: some more then https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/montrexwatches/montrex-watch-project-a-truly-unique-timepiece-wat/posts/542841 [02:21]
punkman "But this time their cyberbullying campaign may have been a blessing in disguise. " [02:21]
punkman seems undecided [02:21]
mircea_popescu kik [02:21]
bounce "never been arrested [...etc.]" -- so far gotten away with teh scammin, eh [02:23]
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punkman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy [02:23]
ozbot Iron law of oligarchy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [02:23]
BingoBoingo http://deadspin.com/why-rich-lacrosse-parents-are-making-their-kids-repeat-1570381983 [02:24]
ozbot Why Rich Lacrosse Parents Are Making Their Kids Repeat A Grade [02:24]
bitcoinpete BingoBoingo: competitive game [02:26]
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BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: More parents Derping their kids to incompetence. [02:26]
bitcoinpete BingoBoingo: their wealth hath made them weak [02:27]
bitcoinpete https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/939-election-results/ [02:27]
bitcoinpete back to the polls cuz gotta have 52 votes lol [02:28]
bitcoinpete bobby lee and some dude named brock pierce at the top of "round 1" [02:28]
bitcoinpete industry seat... [02:28]
BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: Of course it has, but I'm not sure calling it wealth is the right thing. [02:28]
bounce two industry seats. needs moar "none of the above" [02:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0313999 = 0.2826 BTC [+] [02:31]
bitcoinpete so brock pierce was in mighty ducks [02:31]
bitcoinpete and now runs angellist [02:32]
bitcoinpete is a "20x entrepreneur" lol [02:32]
cazalla don't forget IGE [02:32]
bounce in a way it's quite amazing people bet so heavily on "athletic scholarships" [02:33]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [02:33]
bitcoinpete cazalla: ige means something different to someone who took immunology... [02:33]
BingoBoingo I prefer TNF-A [02:33]
bitcoinpete bounce: spend hundreds of thousands for… a half that back. like a forum investment [02:34]
bitcoinpete BingoBoingo: can't go wrong there [02:34]
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bounce maybe it has something to do with the well-known excreable state of middle management [02:34]
BingoBoingo bounce: It really is. Then again there is a huge difference between a poor kid from East St Louis pinning their hopes to an athletic scholarship and rich parents from DC doing the same. [02:35]
bitcoinpete http://globalnews.ca/news/1302902/bank-of-canada-not-worried-bitcoin-will-replace-cash/ < [02:35]
ozbot Bank of Canada not worried Bitcoin will replace cash - National | Globalnews.ca [02:35]
* bounce saw mention of a study or other that relatively way too many rich kids got scholarships. well, they can pay for the consultancies that know how to get 'em, can't they? [02:36]
bounce such system [02:36]
mircea_popescu ;;google always suspected were scams [02:38]
gribble MPOE-PR's list of things you always suspected were scams but never ...: ; Ten Things To Do When You Suspect Fraud at Your ... - Clark Nuber: ; How to Know You Are Being Scammed in a Relationship: 7 Steps: [02:38]
mircea_popescu dude. srsly ?! [02:38]
BingoBoingo Nice [02:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.03139991 = 0.3454 BTC [+] {2} [02:40]
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bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: wired has been under embargo since bitgo: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/09/bitgo-multisig-a-stranger-his-friend-and-you/ [02:43]
mircea_popescu i guess im slow. [02:43]
bitcoinpete only by 3 weeks :P [02:44]
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bounce so that's 2-of-3 and they have one, and you have two? or what? [02:49]
bounce it's still browser-based, so it has all the problems mega has. [02:50]
midnightmagic :-( [02:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 12000 @ 0.00002002 = 0.2402 BTC [-] {2} [02:51]
bitcoinpete bounce: at best it's browser-based. at worst, as kanzure mentioned in the comments, they're full of shit [02:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [-] [02:52]
bounce assuming they're not, for the sake of argument, it's maybe not a bad design decision to have "the user" store something useless on its own, but useful in combination with the website OR in combination with the backup key the user stuck in his safe deposit box [02:53]
kakobrekla https://twitter.com/BTCElevator [02:54]
ozbot BTC Elevator (BTCElevator) on Twitter [02:54]
kakobrekla lol i didnt know we had btc elevator [02:54]
bounce as in, safer than a straight-up webwallet and more convenient than cold storage. as we've seen, there's a market for convenience, any convenience at all [02:54]
bitcoinpete bounce: but that's the exact same as a normal back-up with bc/info or a desktop client [02:55]
bitcoinpete bounce: there was a market for gox and bfl [02:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] [02:55]
bounce sure. so if you produce a marginally safer thing and manage to have the crowd flock there you've improved overal security, however marginally [02:56]
kakobrekla unfortunately the thing is not too funny. [02:56]
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bounce and, hm, assuming the in-browser problems are manageable you get a more convenient thingy than either a webwallet or a desktop client; can keep the user-hot key in, say, a webmail account somewhere without exposing yourself through the webmail account directly (unless the password is also in there) [02:59]
bitcoinpete bounce: creating a big phat target [02:59]
bounce not that much with only one part of a multisig. you'd have to go spear-phishing afterwards. [03:00]
bounce might as well mount a wallet.dat grabbing attack right away with some malvertising-planted rootkittery [03:00]
bounce OTOH their continued allusions to their own greatness do start to grate quickly. [03:02]
bitcoinpete bounce: lol you make a good point even if they're lame [03:02]
bounce *shrug* it doesn't really do to bash'em on things they didn't actually do wrong. [03:03]
bounce I don't particularly like the model, but if above assumptions hold it's not acutally an outright bad idea. [03:03]
bounce that's a big if, though. [03:04]
bounce s/acut/actu/ [03:04]
bitcoinpete it might end up being another cointerra/neobee told-ya-so, might not [03:05]
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bounce there's always somebody going to be right with the told-ya-so. [03:06]
bitcoinpete well i'll let someone else be their guinea pig ;) [03:07]
bounce bound to be plenty volunteers [03:08]
bitcoinpete no doubt [03:08]
bitcoinpete bbl [03:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.072 = 1.368 BTC [+] [03:25]
bitcoinpete http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/01/florida-jail-explosion/8550957/ [03:26]
ozbot Fla. jail explosion kills 2, injures 184 [03:26]
bitcoinpete rainsplosion [03:26]
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bounce any reason why? [03:27]
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bitcoinpete too much rain --> magic --> natural gas leak --> kaboom! [03:31]
BingoBoingo Flooding can extinguish pilot lights, gas builds up, prisoner lights a cigarette... Boom [03:32]
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mircea_popescu bounce are you sure that there "being a market" is a valid approach ? [03:39]
mircea_popescu there's a market for injecting raw industrial silicon in women's buttocks. [03:40]
mircea_popescu http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/27/florida-woman-posing-as-butt-enhancing-doctor-arrested-for-lethal-injections/ [03:41]
ozbot Florida woman posing as butt-enhancing doctor arrested for lethal injections [03:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 150 @ 0.00086011 = 0.129 BTC [-] [03:41]
bounce there's people that, er, do the same thing with cement? [03:41]
mircea_popescu yeah. [03:41]
bounce anyway, I wasn't commenting on validity really [03:41]
mircea_popescu I don't particularly like the model, but if above assumptions hold it's not acutally an outright bad idea. << what's that then ? [03:42]
bounce add earlier context that "the masses" happily take any stupid stuff when offered so even a marginally better idea improves the overall situation (if only marginally) [03:43]
bounce or, in other words, their idea isn't high explosive in and of itself -- which is what bitcoinpete was contending [03:44]
mircea_popescu kinda the point i [03:44]
mircea_popescu m disputing [03:44]
kakobrekla > you [ognasty] are one of the most trusted people in the entire crypto community [03:44]
mircea_popescu and only because i was just writing on this, and my conclusion was "burn it with fire" [03:44]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/idiocy-without-borders-idiots-sans-frontieres/ [03:44]
ozbot Idiocy without borders / Idiots sans frontieres pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [03:44]
kakobrekla im not makin it up; http://pastebin.com/Y518dxjJ [03:44]
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bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: just reading that as a matter of fact. irlloled several times in this bar [03:45]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla the dude that kept coming to derp in here ? [03:45]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust ognasty [03:45]
kakobrekla yea [03:45]
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mircea_popescu well... he does have a 1... [03:46]
mircea_popescu "Played monopoly, paid his buy-in". if there was a more marginal marginal ever... [03:46]
kakobrekla anyway, if some blogger feels like dissecting this, its good material. [03:46]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete the wench brings the drinks, i bring the lolz, is it ? :D [03:47]
bounce what's that to do with the multisig wallet thingy bitcoinpete posted a blog about? [03:47]
mircea_popescu well no, i selected the "what to do about idiots". you seemed to say that well... empowering their idiocy through catering to their whims is a net positive. [03:48]
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mircea_popescu i disagree. i'd rather see them hurt than served. [03:48]
bounce oh no, I was on about the multisig idea underpinning a webwallet thingy [03:49]
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mircea_popescu well yes [03:49]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: what more could i ask for? this bc merlot ain't half bad either [03:49]
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mircea_popescu " as we've seen, there's a market for convenience, any convenience at all" << that part. [03:50]
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mircea_popescu “Experts say people resort to illegal ‘pumping parties,’ where customers outside a hospital or clinical setting are injected with anything from Botox to industrial-grade silicone, out of convenience or because they lack insurance or access to health care and legitimate plastic surgery.” [03:51]
mircea_popescu i tell you, it's connected! [03:51]
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dub aint no party like illegal pumpin party [03:52]
mircea_popescu all the crazed lezzie bitchz... [03:52]
bounce well, with accessable insurance and accessable plastic surgery there'll still be those among the masses doing outright stupid stuff, but at least it'll be medically sound [03:53]
bounce my angle was I'd rather have the masses have medically sound care than not, regardless of their stupidity. [03:53]
mircea_popescu yeah, but you know... back in 1700 there seems to be a complete dearth of bohemian peasants that sat around injecting silicone in their butts to look more like women. [03:53]
mircea_popescu so perhaps the problem is that so many poor idiots are also idle. [03:53]
mircea_popescu but why ? cause that's what i'm trying to understand. [03:54]
bounce or have disposable income to spend [03:54]
bitcoinpete or access to credit [03:54]
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mircea_popescu i mean this welfare nonsense is a) very recent and b) never seems to have been critically considered. [03:55]
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mircea_popescu for as long as the british empire endured, the thinking was that the poor have to be kept busy [03:55]
mircea_popescu lest they become sinful. [03:55]
mircea_popescu this somehow switched, 180. and i can't find when, or why. [03:55]
bounce why? why do tribe members in darkest africa /want/ to get mutilated? c'mon, you're the one with the degree in anthropology, wasn't it? [03:55]
mircea_popescu well yeah, which is what confounds the example that's prolly very clear cut to you. [03:56]
mircea_popescu generally they want to be cut for similar reasons to women wanting to be my slaves, it's an educational experience. [03:56]
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bitcoinpete it still appears as though the present system exists to keep the poor busy [03:57]
mircea_popescu does it ? [03:57]
bitcoinpete bread and circuses always [03:57]
bounce o_O? inasmuch all of life is educational, if you believe wossname esotherics. I'd rather say it's part of being part of the group. we're social, group-minded animals. [03:57]
B0g4r7 bawse benkay bertani bettyclamp bgupta BigBitz BingoBoingo bitcoinhtx bitcoinpete Blazedout419 blg bloctoc BohemianHacks bounce Bunnyh bwq [03:57]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete huge diff between busy and entertained tho. [03:57]
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bitcoinpete hmm busy to buy more entertainment [03:58]
bounce busy or entertained, either will do if it keeps'em from mobbing and overthrowing the ruling elite [03:58]
bitcoinpete new angle? [03:58]
mircea_popescu bounce no no, what i mean is quite this : the trannies in florida get the silicone to look a certain way. the african tribesmen get the cut to be a certain way. there's a meta level of distinction. [03:58]
bounce I don't see it? [03:59]
mircea_popescu similar to the kid that goes to college to learn vs the kid that goes to college to get the diploma. [03:59]
bitcoinpete and it's set up so both achieve the same nothingness 4 years later [04:00]
mircea_popescu and busy != entertained, because the later is self-managed, the former is not. imposing upon the poor is the essence of busywork, not just that they're occupied, but that they're occupied with other's orders. [04:00]
bounce couch potato is self-managed? [04:00]
mircea_popescu yeah. [04:01]
bounce hyping $stupid_show is in essence giving orders by marketeering [04:01]
bitcoinpete the order of a megacorp to buy a new car, new watch, granite countertops leads to busywork downstream [04:01]
mircea_popescu that "in essence" doesn't work. [04:01]
mircea_popescu it has to be in substance, not "in essence". [04:01]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete this was the theory, cca 1950 to 1980s. it meanwhile failed. [04:02]
bitcoinpete it's not clear to me that the essence of consumerism is anything less than substance for most [04:02]
bitcoinpete it's a directive [04:02]
mircea_popescu the essence/substance distinction is not a matter subjective. what they think and represent has little import. [04:03]
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bounce well, there's this book by a working-poor-to-riches guy that did it by working really hard and taking every opportunity (like calling the book "how you too can become a millionaire" when he's just explaining what opportunities came his way and how he used them, not really a manual but it's a bestselling title) who also notes it's often the poor that keep themselves and each other poor to, well, fit in with the rest. part of their identity. [04:04]
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bounce breaking out of that was thus breaking with his prior identity, even his family (didn't help he was queer as a queen, but anyhow) and so on. [04:05]
mircea_popescu aha [04:05]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu i see what you mean. perhaps the welfare deal could've only happened in the new world on the back of a sizeable military victory? never before, never again [04:05]
bounce reduced ad absurdum, turn off the telly frees you up to get rich. yet they don't turn off the telly for have to be up to date on the soap/game/whatever for the small talk tomorrow. [04:05]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete it happened before. it's exactly how rome looked, 100 to 500ish ad. legionaires too lazy to wear... the helmet. the cuirass was long before abandoned, and even beforer that the shield. [04:06]
mircea_popescu bounce but the problem is the "they" in there. why should they turn off the telly or not turn off the telly ? [04:06]
mircea_popescu why are the poor masters of their own life ? what nonsense is this! [04:06]
bounce well, are they? [04:07]
mircea_popescu substantially, yes. essentially, no. [04:07]
mircea_popescu this disconnect is imo pernicious. [04:07]
mircea_popescu substantially, it's pernicious to the poor. and this is obvious. [04:07]
mircea_popescu but essentially... it is pernicious to everyone. and this has so far gone un noticed. [04:07]
bounce what, you're arguing against rule by the not-poor? [04:08]
mircea_popescu i;m arguing against trying to implement attempts at eating-and-keeping cake. [04:08]
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bounce uhm. connect that one for me? [04:09]
mircea_popescu ok, let me work the latin military example, i think it's the best way in. [04:09]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: ok so everything is pernicious against the poor, the current system just makes is shitty for everyone else and the planet too, because poor think they can do shit [04:09]
mircea_popescu cca 300 bc, the roman military consisted of citizens. they went on campaign as the field work was done, raped and pillaged, then lay down their arms and did the fields. [04:10]
mircea_popescu you know the story of cincinnatus btw ? [04:10]
bounce read the wikipedia page intro. got given a job to do, gave back the authority that came with it once job done. [04:12]
mircea_popescu meh. read some classical source sometime, well worth the effort. anyway. [04:12]
mircea_popescu those arms consisted of about 70 lbs worth of crap. [04:12]
mircea_popescu which they carried, on foot, for about 30 miles a day, for weeks on end. [04:12]
mircea_popescu and each night, they dug out a castrum [04:12]
mircea_popescu this was military life, at the time, and them folks were... pretty healthy. [04:13]
mircea_popescu now, you know caesar was beloved by the troops ? [04:13]
bounce by virtue of people not up to the task getting weeded out right quick [04:13]
mircea_popescu indeed. [04:13]
mircea_popescu you essentially couldsn't get married if you didn't do well i nthe military, so italso self-selected. [04:14]
bounce plenty fighting, plenty loot. that sort of go-getter tends to be popular with the troops. [04:14]
mircea_popescu not at all. [04:14]
mircea_popescu he was popular with the troops because he carried his fucking gear. [04:14]
mircea_popescu that was all. [04:14]
bounce heh. ok. [04:14]
mircea_popescu see ? but the greatest general the romans ever had, arguably, was loved for this very important fucking point, to the soldiers of the time : [04:15]
mircea_popescu that he was, himself, a soldier. [04:15]
bounce though he apparently also had quite a bit of tent with tiles(!) for flooring with him on campaign, but anyway [04:15]
mircea_popescu now, fast forward to caracalla. one of the least bearable emperors in history. [04:15]
mircea_popescu by now, the soldiers are sort-of carrying 30ish lbs of crap, and it's more like "you gotta be a suycker to carry all that". [04:16]
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mircea_popescu what does this do to the general of the time ? [04:16]
mircea_popescu because you see... suppose someone inssited they do everything old style. [04:16]
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mircea_popescu would he likely be loved ? or on the contrary, despised as a total fucking moron of aggregated pointless idiocy ? [04:17]
bounce hard to tell. would depend a lot on how it's sold to the troops. I'll grant doing it without selling won't buy you anything except perhaps the troops' stuff to carry too. [04:18]
mircea_popescu suppose i walk into a 3rd year computer science class at mit, and proceed to make the kids do one arithmetic problem, and then once they fuck it up make them do one hundred, by hand, [04:18]
mircea_popescu and get out the cane and start caning them liberally per mistake. [04:18]
mircea_popescu this isn't teaching, right ? it's child abuse. [04:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.0009738 = 23.8581 BTC [+] {3} [04:19]
mircea_popescu so there we have it : the cleaving between substance and essence makes it impossible for people to live, [04:19]
bounce guys at MIT probably wouldn't make that many misteaks. they have a bit of an ethos of being bloody smart and figuring things out. [04:19]
mircea_popescu but it also makes it impossible for them to be helped. [04:19]
mircea_popescu it;'s not enough they aren';t fucking soldiers anymore. for their sins, they also cant have generals now. [04:19]
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mircea_popescu bounce re figuring stuff out, the mandatory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ve23i5K334 [04:21]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu soldiers only follow orders...isn't a requisite for higher learning self thought? [04:21]
bounce uhm. I think I see where you're coming from but the essence/substance thing doesn't speak to me. maybe I'm tired. [04:21]
mircea_popescu well tomorrow is another day [04:21]
bounce have you read heinlein's starship troopers, btw? [04:22]
mircea_popescu mno [04:22]
decimation Of course, during republican times, if the army seriously fucked up they would have ... the decimation [04:23]
mircea_popescu o hello. [04:24]
mircea_popescu that really was very rare, for all its fame. [04:24]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller it depends to a huge degree whose orders tho. [04:25]
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mircea_popescu some guy who simply blindly and slavishly followed da vinci's orders has overall better chances to make his own masterpieces in 30 years than some kid sitting on his ass on reddit all day. [04:26]
* bounce calls for a law to ban reddit, for the arts! [04:26]
mircea_popescu if only. [04:26]
mircea_popescu but it dun work that way. [04:27]
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bitcoinpete A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its mouth: "I, the state, am the people." [04:29]
bitcoinpete It is a lie! Creators were they who created peoples, and hung a faith and a love over them: thus they served life. [04:29]
bitcoinpete Destroyers, are they who lay snares for many, and call it the state: they hang a sword and a hundred cravings over them. [04:29]
bitcoinpete Where there is still a people, there the state is not understood, but hated as the evil eye, and as sin against laws and customs. [04:29]
bitcoinpete thus spoke zarathustra [04:29]
mircea_popescu hehe [04:30]
decimation Well, the point is, maim (or kill one), educate one thousand [04:31]
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BingoBoingo I kind of actually hope the Sterling dude exercises ownership by abolishing the Clippers. [04:33]
decimation I doubt he has the actual power to do s [04:33]
mircea_popescu ownership means very little these days in the us. [04:34]
bitcoinpete "Many sick people have always been among the poetizers and God-cravers; furiously they hate the lover of knowledge and that youngest among the virtues, which is called "honesty." They always look backward toward dark ages; then, indeed, delusion and faith were another matter: the rage of reason was godlikeness, and doubt was sin." < [04:34]
bounce quoting scripture? [04:35]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: sterling's best hope is that the other owners got his back, which , maybe [04:35]
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mircea_popescu bounce he really likes nietzsche [04:36]
decimation no, he's quoting that nutcase Nietzsche [04:36]
bitcoinpete bounce: nietzsche. scripture is the logs and the pentuach lol [04:36]
decimation The best version of that book is the tone-poem by Richard Strauss [04:36]
bounce some scripture, with "lol" for punctuation [04:37]
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bitcoinpete bounce: if you can't laugh at it, it ain't much good [04:37]
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bounce what was that bit about laughing tracks again? [04:38]
bitcoinpete that's other people laughing, how do they count? [04:38]
artifexd ;;last jurov [04:39]
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bounce spammy spammy gribble [04:39]
bounce time for me to catch some zees though [04:39]
artifexd ;;seen jurov [04:39]
gribble jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: supay, such as, github stuff? [04:39]
bitcoinpete bounce: ciao [04:40]
mircea_popescu anyone seen x, y and zee ? [04:41]
mircea_popescu !jd mpif [04:42]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 50.47838131 BTC [04:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0290001 = 0.29 BTC [-] [04:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.03586108 = 0.3227 BTC [+] [04:43]
thestringpuller ;;gettrust deprived [04:44]
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thestringpuller ;;gettrust Deprived [04:44]
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thestringpuller damn was he never in wot? [04:44]
mircea_popescu !jd mpif [04:44]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.63493644 BTC [04:44]
thestringpuller ? [04:45]
thestringpuller !jd mpif [04:45]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.63723671 BTC [04:45]
thestringpuller <.<;; ;;>.> [04:45]
mircea_popescu so there we go. 213.15567101 btc added to f.mpif in exchange for 1mn extra shares, invested 100 into panacea and 113.15567101 into jd. [04:45]
thestringpuller oh [04:45]
thestringpuller nice [04:45]
thestringpuller damn MPIF is just what we need... [04:45]
thestringpuller thanks MP lol [04:46]
mircea_popescu this is a little over ideal weight imo, will trim it over time as other venues become able to absorb moar capital [04:46]
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BingoBoingo It's probably for the best that this extra capital went to the lower risk ventures. [04:49]
mircea_popescu hehe we don't even have enough history yet to really evaluate risk [04:52]
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artifexd Today is not a day to skimp on reading the logs. [04:53]
artifexd Maybe read them a few times.... [04:54]
mircea_popescu the logs have improved! [04:54]
mike_c i thought the block of 1mn that sold was you selling your shares in mpif [04:56]
mike_c those were new shares? [04:56]
mike_c so you hold 1mn and everybody else holds 1mn? [04:56]
mike_c and there is another block of 1mn sitting on the order book? [04:56]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well jd and panacea have histories. I'm assuming my pc is high risk until evidence supports otherwise. [04:56]
mircea_popescu yes, like 1mn and a little sold, and i have almost 1mn which is sitting in the book [04:56]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo panacea's almost a year old, jd is almost two. these aren't histories, berkshire is like 50 years old. [04:57]
mike_c jd isn't even a year old yet :) [04:57]
BingoBoingo Fair enough. [04:57]
BingoBoingo But yeah, Jd just started last summer. [04:58]
mircea_popescu mike_c whoa fuck you'r eright. [04:58]
mircea_popescu !jd mpif [04:58]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.64373055 BTC [04:58]
mike_c bitcoin time.. it feels like forever. [04:58]
mircea_popescu this jd thing is becoming a fun passtime [04:58]
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asciilifeform montrex watch << mega-lol! thank you mircea_popescu. [05:00]
asciilifeform how do you even find these turds. [05:00]
mircea_popescu punkman [05:00]
decimation asciilifeform: http://www.bulldogtrust.com/index12.htm more ham strange (I enjoyed your diodes) -- "A wrought iron table 60 feet from the antenna will pick up enough energy to make a visible arc to ground" [05:01]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2913 @ 0.0001489 = 0.4337 BTC [+] [05:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2302 @ 0.00014912 = 0.3433 BTC [+] {2} [05:03]
TestingUnoDosTre I'm very confused to what MPIF actually is. Can someone explain? I have read the mpex page, but it has not enlightened me to what is exactly going on [05:04]
mike_c it is a fund. you give money to mpif, it invests it in various bitcoin thingies. [05:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00097356 = 20.4448 BTC [-] [05:04]
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mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre didja read the stuff in the f.mpif category ? like http://trilema.com/2014/the-wunderbar-smpif/ ? [05:10]
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TestingUnoDosTre mircea_popescu - missed that, thanks [05:11]
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mike_c 1 ATC block in the last 2.5 hours :( [05:14]
artifexd mike_c: That makes this ( http://bitbet.us/bet/812/atc-to-reach-block-50000-on-time/ ) look more interesting [05:16]
bitcoinpete http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2248419 < [05:16]
ozbot Regulating Digital Currencies: Bringing Bitcoin within the Reach of the IMF by Nicholas Plassaras : [05:16]
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TestingUnoDosTre oh my fuck, you're telling me I could have just bet both sides at the beginning and won? [05:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: Poor people are an animal species, not as useful as bovines... intimately connected to shit << tricky, this. penniless student, or engineer bled dry by usa housing, or any number of folks, aren't necessarily turdmeisters of the kind painted here [05:18]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform very true. [05:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but there's certainly a kind of creature, that usa is famous for, that this piece is inescapably about. and the only common attribute of the group, to the unarmed eye, is 'poor.' [05:19]
mircea_popescu of course, a large part of hte problem is that if the derps running around on welfare checks debasing the cultural impoirtance of money, [05:19]
mircea_popescu the engineer would NOT think there are more important things in life, [05:19]
mircea_popescu and so he would not allow himself to be bleed dry. [05:19]
mircea_popescu nor the student, if he had any sense. [05:19]
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asciilifeform engineer would NOT think there are more important things in life << or, alternatively, stand up and fight to the death for la serenissima. [05:20]
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mircea_popescu something like that. as they say, a fart stinks up the entire room. [05:21]
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mircea_popescu the ill effects of moral hazard produced through giving idiots free money are far reaching. [05:21]
mike_c artifexd: yeah, i don't know which way that bet is going to go, but it will be a bumpy ride. [05:21]
asciilifeform i've some essayturds buried somewhere, on the death of craftsman. [05:22]
asciilifeform (and the hegemony of the cruftsman) [05:22]
asciilifeform ;;ud cruft [05:22]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cruft | cruft. 1. The dust that gathers underneath a bed, 2. Shoddily constructed or made, 3. Bad code, 4. Accumulated physical or virtual junk. Jim had to spend several ... [05:22]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: cruft [05:22]
asciilifeform pfff. cruft is the substance inside your keyboard. [05:23]
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asciilifeform or old-style ball bearing mouse. [05:23]
mircea_popescu bovine albumin. [05:24]
mircea_popescu + celulose detritus [05:24]
decimation it seems to me that any core group ("old republicans?") who would stand and fight would easily be crushed by the existing US power holders [05:24]
* asciilifeform fondly remembers measuring little tubes of bovine albumin to mix in cell culture medium. [05:25]
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mircea_popescu decimation what's your definition of "fight" ? [05:25]
decimation well exactly. carry a 30 lb sack and bitch about it [05:25]
asciilifeform decimation: there is more than one way to fight [05:25]
artifexd "craftsman" That was the motivation behind my choice of nick. To continually remind myself of the meaning behind the word and to aspire to have that word used to describe me. [05:26]
mircea_popescu and whence the d ? [05:27]
artifexd unix-y d. As in the worker that does its work out of sight. Daemon. [05:27]
mircea_popescu haha nice combo. [05:28]
artifexd ty [05:29]
asciilifeform other nitpick - welfare cheques give us - plastic forks; vc money pissing bacchanalia gives us plastic programming systems, plastic internet, etc. [05:29]
mircea_popescu nah. [05:29]
mircea_popescu w/o the welfare cheques, the "vc" bunch would be alone in a room. [05:30]
asciilifeform plastic in the sense of a trash bag i once had the misfortune to keep some machines in - that fell into ten thousand pieces [05:30]
decimation I was thinking about this the other day. Almost every technology advance has been used in the US to reduce quality and increase prices. Cell phones go from 25 kHz analog channel to 10 kbit/s "channel" [05:30]
asciilifeform 'degradable!' [05:30]
mircea_popescu nobody'd come to put up the show and shake the bottled fars for them [05:30]
mircea_popescu not unless they paid. by the hour. [05:30]
mircea_popescu decimation that's a major point of socialism : it uses technology to degrade quality of life [05:31]
mircea_popescu (while claiming capitalism is doing this, of course) [05:31]
decimation kitchen appliances go from stainless machines that last for decades to cheap plastic shit that rots after a few years [05:32]
decimation try buying a decent dishwasher or clothes washer in the us [05:32]
mircea_popescu absurdly, this part i like. [05:32]
mircea_popescu it matches my lifestyle perfectly, i get to a new place, buy a set of the plastic shits [05:33]
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mircea_popescu by the time they're falling apart i was just about leaving [05:33]
asciilifeform this is sorta how it's done in usa [05:33]
decimation yeah the average usian moves every 7 years as i recall [05:34]
asciilifeform i spent a good deal of today checking list of things that won't be coming to new flat, and it includes virtually everything [05:34]
mircea_popescu yurts! [05:34]
decimation the problem is that they are running out of places to sprawl and ruin [05:34]
asciilifeform aye. semispace garbage collection! [05:34]
mircea_popescu i told people of my engineer park yurt design [05:34]
mircea_popescu everyone was falling over in cuteness [05:34]
decimation I think it would be great. Young engineers would occupy the greybeard's old shacks, and repeat his experiments [05:35]
mircea_popescu maybe when you're old and dying you pick a guy to bequeath your yurt line toi [05:36]
asciilifeform decimation: for some reason, this reminds me of a tale my consulting partner (physicist, grew up in india, 1970s) told me. students would qualify on instruments that barely worked, but belonged, to, e.g. the great Bose. [05:36]
decimation Aram Bose? [05:36]
mircea_popescu with the scribblings ? [05:36]
asciilifeform they'd be carefully marked with a crib sheet for the 'correct' measurement. [05:36]
asciilifeform aye [05:36]
asciilifeform 'feel honoured to use bose's broken spectroscope' etc [05:37]
decimation sounds legit. Why not learn on the very machines of the old master? Better yet, fix it up [05:37]
asciilifeform yeah well, in the western world they might fix. [05:37]
asciilifeform in the east, fix won't happen, for the lack of a new bose [05:38]
decimation there is a new bose, he just doesn't live in the east: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanu_Bose [05:38]
decimation I'm sure being India there's a caste aspect to it too [05:38]
decimation Boston brahmins being replaced with Brahmins [05:39]
asciilifeform Aram Bose << nope. the bose of bose-einstein condensate, etc [05:39]
asciilifeform Satyendra Nath Bose [05:39]
decimation ah okay I'm thinking Bose of the bose speaker empire [05:40]
decimation ex-MIT EE [05:40]
asciilifeform lol [05:40]
asciilifeform infamous u.s. huckster, that one [05:40]
decimation yes indeed [05:40]
asciilifeform emblematic of faux luxury products [05:40]
asciilifeform if he didn't exist, 'we'd have to invent him' for the purpose of this line of thought. [05:41]
decimation he was a legitimate EE prof at MIT, but apparently found it more profitable to separate idiots from their money [05:41]
decimation I was wrong he was Amar, not Aram, my memories betray [05:41]
TestingUnoDosTre until Dr. Dre came into the headphone space. Then idiots lost their money twice as fast [05:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i bet you that if you asked indian teens today, the millionaire speaker ee guy is more interesting a worship idol than the physicist. [05:42]
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asciilifeform now, also pertinent, is how this fellow (me partner, not amar) ended up in usa [05:42]
asciilifeform booted out through 'affirmative action' style quotas for the bottom castes [05:42]
asciilifeform instituted in that period. [05:42]
decimation by india or the us? [05:42]
asciilifeform india [05:42]
asciilifeform they have a sort of scale model of u.s. idiocy going [05:43]
decimation india is the future of us democracy [05:43]
thestringpuller ^ that is frightening [05:43]
asciilifeform decimation is optimist [05:43]
thestringpuller haha [05:44]
TestingUnoDosTre kakobrekla ,some anonymous asshat keeps on posting advertisements for his own difficulty betting site on bitbet http://bitbet.us/bet/677/bitcoin-network-difficulty-14bn-on-bastille-day/#c2888 [05:44]
asciilifeform in the east, there is at least a tradition of castes 'knowing their place' that they might potentially return to. [05:44]
mircea_popescu lol! [05:44]
mircea_popescu ;;google trilema fairlay [05:44]
gribble When did the 2007 banking crisis start ? How about 1985 ... - Trilema: ; Economic cycles finally explained pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Trilemma Stability and International Macroeconomic Archetypes: (1 more message) [05:44]
mircea_popescu aww im sure he was there [05:44]
decimation yeah I agree "us -> india" is on the optimistic side [05:45]
asciilifeform try brazil, say. [05:45]
TestingUnoDosTre ahhh that one is not in engrish [05:45]
kakobrekla yes everyone advertises on bitbet comments, from predictious to fairlay [05:45]
mircea_popescu these people [05:46]
mircea_popescu why not splurge and buy... a banner! [05:46]
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asciilifeform he was a legitimate EE prof at MIT << profs. bolt, beranek, and newman quit to do... neat stuff. today, they leave to become spammers. 'that's where the money is.' [05:48]
decimation at least they sold out to respectable beltway banditry [05:49]
TestingUnoDosTre I'm going to go create a betting website, go advertise on bitbet, then create a bitbet that my site will last throughout the year, then bet on NO [05:49]
TestingUnoDosTre muchos profits [05:49]
mircea_popescu sometimes i entertain this vague notion where we're somehow all wrong and the nonsense somehow actually makes sense [05:50]
asciilifeform who doesn't [05:50]
mircea_popescu sorta like SF [05:50]
asciilifeform sorta like the occasional healthy fellow who ends up in a mental asylum [05:51]
mircea_popescu "what premises would we need for intelligent frogs to make perfect sense ?" [05:51]
asciilifeform eventually starts to crack [05:51]
mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre lol [05:51]
mircea_popescu then make another one, and with the profitos from the first one, buy a a banner ? [05:51]
asciilifeform thing is, for sufficiently narrow tunnel, anything makes sense. flying into a flame makes perfect sense to the insect. [05:52]
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mircea_popescu btw, i don't know if you realise this, but we're fucking up most insects something fierce. [05:52]
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mircea_popescu they're tuned to seek the moon in the dark, you see, because while they can't go that far, all of them seeking it ensures they meet [05:53]
mircea_popescu and so they fuck. [05:53]
mircea_popescu but with the countless neon moons distributed all over, this ceases to work [05:53]
asciilifeform for quite a while. [05:54]
mircea_popescu like in that computing sucks blog, [05:54]
mircea_popescu "You discover that one day, some idiot decided that since another idiot decided that 1/0 should equal infinity, they could just use that as a shorthand for "Infinity" when simplifying their code. Then a non-idiot rightly decided that this was idiotic, which is what the original idiot should have decided, but since he didn't, the non-idiot decided to be a dick and make this a failing error in his new compiler. Then he d [05:54]
mircea_popescu ecided he wasn't going to tell anyone that this was an error, because he's a dick, and now all your snowflakes are urine and you can't even find the cat." [05:54]
asciilifeform see peppered moth. [05:54]
asciilifeform famous example [05:54]
mircea_popescu that's exactly what happened : some engineer made 1/0 shorthand for infinity trying to fit their code into the insect [05:54]
asciilifeform known, i think, even to u.s. schoolboys [05:54]
mircea_popescu where 1/0 = moon [05:54]
asciilifeform for users of 'source' linux flavours, e.g. gentoo, the comical picture above is daily reality. [05:56]
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asciilifeform 'remove xxx to build new ver. xxx' won't build. spend a week to get a working box again.' [05:57]
TestingUnoDosTre how does one fit code into an insect? [05:57]
mircea_popescu if i knew that i'd have some kickass locusts [05:57]
decimation ascii, the thing is that such systems seem so seductive when they are young and small [05:57]
decimation the rot isn't obvious until the next generation comes to try to 'fix' things [05:58]
mircea_popescu moe! [05:58]
decimation how many bugs are you willing to tolerate? [05:59]
asciilifeform decimation: the system is capped by the intelligence of the dumbest contributor. which would be, typically... 10,000 people? there's bound to be a turdmeister. [05:59]
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ThickAsThieves this is kinda interesting [06:00]
ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/24himq/i_sent_a_freedom_of_information_act_request_to/ [06:00]
ozbot I sent a Freedom of Information Act Request to the FBI over a year ago. They just responded today. : [06:00]
ThickAsThieves it's heavily redacted commentary on bitcoin [06:00]
asciilifeform in other news... [06:01]
asciilifeform http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-01/pentagon-admits-no-solution-replace-russian-rockets-launch-us-military-satellites [06:01]
ozbot Pentagon Admits "No Solution" To Replace Russian Rockets To Launch US Military Satellites | Zero Hed [06:01]
decimation http://www.space.com/25718-russian-official-us-trampolines-space.html [06:02]
ozbot Russia's Deputy Prime Minister on Twitter: US Can Use Trampolines to Reach Space | Space.com [06:02]
asciilifeform catch them on re-entry with baseball glove. [06:03]
decimation the irony is that the US has plenty of rockets that are plenty reliable for human space flight [06:03]
asciilifeform american, patriotic. [06:03]
asciilifeform had. [06:03]
decimation the problem is that the vast space-welfare complex can't be made to do anything without billions of $ [06:03]
asciilifeform 'what can't continue - won't.' etc [06:04]
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mircea_popescu lol look what i've found [14:17]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/roba-da-ricchi/ [14:17]
ozbot Roba da ricchi pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [14:17]
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mircea_popescu jurov on it. [14:57]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-for-a-great-film/ [15:07]
ozbot The idea for a great film… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [15:08]
mircea_popescu if anyone fancies himself a screenplay writer. [15:08]
CheckDavid Hey jurov thanks [15:10]
CheckDavid I have nothing to say though [15:10]
CheckDavid Lol [15:10]
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mircea_popescu lol [15:11]
fluffypony Naphex:) [15:13]
CheckDavid Like there can’t be a larger binary digit than 1 [15:14]
CheckDavid Does it translate to [15:14]
CheckDavid Higher decimal digit than 9 ? [15:14]
mircea_popescu yea [15:15]
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ThickAsThieves i propose a different ending for the movie mp [15:15]
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VanCleef thanks [15:15]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves which ? [15:15]
Naphex i just got ident'd :p [15:15]
ThickAsThieves as it strikes me as imbalanced [15:15]
VanCleef yeh just reading the movie idea [15:15]
Naphex damn server splits [15:15]
CheckDavid That's some expensive vocabulary [15:15]
CheckDavid When I talk like that my friends [15:16]
CheckDavid Almost kill me [15:16]
VanCleef i think it would make a good tv show [15:16]
CheckDavid Like I am overcomplicated [15:16]
mircea_popescu tv show ?! [15:16]
ThickAsThieves the ending is the barbarian's own advisor, proposing and convincing him of his first laws of order (hinting at an eventual recreation of the original empire the movie started with) [15:16]
mircea_popescu but it has an event. how many episodes before, and how many after ? either way it's... two tv shows [15:16]
CheckDavid mircea_popescu: could I voice VanCleef in case he were not already voiced? [15:17]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves nah. that's imbalanced. it proposes the idiocy is somehow okay. [15:17]
mircea_popescu CheckDavid but he is. [15:17]
ThickAsThieves no it proposes the order and chaos are cyclical [15:17]
CheckDavid Come on. [15:17]
VanCleef what's your set piece? [15:17]
CheckDavid Just tell me. Don't troll [15:17]
mircea_popescu VanCleef set piece ? [15:18]
ThickAsThieves (because they are) [15:18]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i guess it does that. and yes they are. but it ain't the political statement i wish to make :) [15:18]
mircea_popescu art is, after all, politics. [15:18]
ThickAsThieves it's the political statement i wish to make [15:18]
CheckDavid Ok I will test myself if you don't want to answer [15:18]
ThickAsThieves that your statement is no more "right" than the other [15:19]
mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/C2mhE < also [15:19]
VanCleef The term setpiece is often used more broadly to describe any important dramatic or comedic highpoint in a film or story, particularly those that provide some kind of dramatic payoff, resolution, or transition. [15:19]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that's why you're in the marbles and i'm in the furs, because you actually believe that :D [15:19]
ThickAsThieves nah i'm just the delusionist [15:19]
mircea_popescu VanCleef indicated i nthe text by "This scene makes or breaks the whole film" [15:19]
ThickAsThieves i wear what suits you [15:20]
ThickAsThieves ;) [15:20]
mircea_popescu CheckDavid oh i see now what you meant. [15:20]
VanCleef yeah i was thinking that when i read it [15:20]
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mircea_popescu CheckDavid no, you could not. [15:20]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lol [15:20]
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CheckDavid Thanks mircea [15:20]
CheckDavid In Wisconsin, it is illegal to serve apple pie in public restaurants without cheese [15:21]
CheckDavid Lol [15:21]
CheckDavid Nice contraband opportunity [15:21]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves btw, if it makes you feel better : your movie needs a sequel well sure. you wanna make money, always leave room for a sequel. [15:21]
VanCleef you could just pay someone to write the script [15:21]
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mircea_popescu i could. but i prefer to give someone the chance to write the script. [15:22]
mircea_popescu the greatness of money, you get to make choices and have preferences. [15:22]
mircea_popescu whoa look at that shit, equal character count! [15:22]
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VanCleef who would be your target audience for this film? [15:23]
VanCleef bitcoiners? [15:23]
CheckDavid I wonder if one can get government funds to research and develop crypto currencies [15:23]
ThickAsThieves ah poop, your comment section stripped the handles [15:24]
jurov CheckDavid: there are plenty of bachelor/master theses on it [15:24]
mircea_popescu VanCleef or people whoi like alma-tadema, or people who like to see men get fucked, or w/e [15:24]
mircea_popescu i don't write for audiences. [15:24]
jurov it's certain they will continue with it [15:24]
mircea_popescu CheckDavid if you had read the logs, there was even a cushy us govt job offered. [15:25]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves see now look what you've done!!1 [15:25]
mircea_popescu it's anonymized [15:26]
VanCleef to be honest its a lil over my head, i hvave to read it a few times to fully understand it [15:26]
VanCleef i wanted to do a homage to 80's action films and do one about the most powerful groups of people that run the world today and they all work in this underground sex trade where they only use women as currency [15:27]
mircea_popescu ew. [15:27]
mircea_popescu why not have them fuck ductaped baby chickens, and use THAT as the currency. [15:28]
VanCleef lol [15:28]
ThickAsThieves i'm gonna make a post in MY blog about the new ending, cuz apparently it's all the rage these days, blogging on top of what mp says ;) [15:28]
mircea_popescu what, you have a blog ? [15:28]
ThickAsThieves dude your memory [15:29]
mircea_popescu dude get out, do you even footnote ? [15:29]
ThickAsThieves trolling? [15:29]
ThickAsThieves lol [15:29]
mircea_popescu (i had that typed out :D) [15:29]
bounce ducktaped chickens, bio-fleshlights? the sheer depravity. minus personpoints for you! [15:29]
mircea_popescu ty, ty. [15:29]
mircea_popescu no but i mean, if he's going for the outrage value, at least go all the way. [15:30]
ThickAsThieves i guess, in a way, my blog *is* your blog, since you sparked it [15:30]
mircea_popescu this is where i link that "all one" california soap nuttery [15:30]
CheckDavid mircea_popescu: offered here? [15:30]
CheckDavid Like a government official came here to offer it? Lol [15:30]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/were-all-one/ [15:31]
ozbot We’re all one pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [15:31]
VanCleef anywho yeh you should develop your story a bit more [15:32]
mircea_popescu that's the screenwriter's job. [15:32]
mircea_popescu i gave him some freedom implicit there, so his job doesn't suck [15:32]
VanCleef how much btc? [15:32]
mircea_popescu i dunno dood, i don't even run a studio. chances are, it'll never get made anyway [15:32]
VanCleef that's okey studios pay like 50k just to own scripts and keep them under their desk [15:33]
VanCleef then they pay you more if they decide to make the movie [15:33]
mircea_popescu did you ever get paid 50k + more ? [15:33]
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VanCleef i only wrote one script but i deleted it recently [15:34]
mircea_popescu right. so how'd you know ? [15:34]
VanCleef that's how it works in hollywood [15:34]
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mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE << here's the real story. [15:35]
ozbot Harlan Ellison -- Pay the Writer - YouTube [15:35]
mircea_popescu and ellison has had a few scripts optioned, so i guess he'd know. [15:35]
mircea_popescu (also that's pre-crisis. it was way better then) [15:36]
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bounce 50k for 120 pages. hm. maybe worth a shot. [15:36]
bounce how to fill 120 pages worth of screenplay from irc logs? now there's a fiddy kay question. [15:36]
mircea_popescu bounce that's for believers. for engineers, it's 120 pages for a lottery ticket in an unauthorised lottery with an alleged cash prize of 50k (conditions apply) [15:37]
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VanCleef i'm not an asshole, pay me mircea :P [15:37]
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mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/wu3IRQW.jpg this isn't so bad. minus the plastic stench ;/ [15:38]
VanCleef ellison is right [15:38]
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mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/OGW3PJD.jpg << total fucking good law. i want this on my books. [15:39]
mircea_popescu none of that soggy bullshit. [15:39]
VanCleef anywho this voiced stuff sucks [15:40]
VanCleef athero or whatever his name was had good wot ratings [15:40]
VanCleef just kick people or mute them if you dont want them to talk [15:41]
jurov [13:57] jurov on it << dun see it [15:41]
VanCleef alot of scammers were using wot and had good ratings [15:41]
mircea_popescu jurov lol gimme a second. [15:41]
VanCleef wot is a fail [15:41]
mircea_popescu VanCleef you need to read the logs. this was discussed to death. [15:41]
VanCleef cant we just go back to how it use to be? [15:41]
VanCleef it was alot better [15:41]
mircea_popescu !down VanCleef [15:42]
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ThickAsThieves http://devilsadvocate.biz/i-wear-what-suits-you/ [15:49]
ozbot In the Spirit of the Devil’s Advocate, I Wear What Suits You [15:49]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i like the coloring. [15:56]
ThickAsThieves hopefully you dont mind being blue :) [15:57]
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mircea_popescu blue boy... that's what they callleeeed meeee [15:57]
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-CheckDavid- help pliz I can't breathe [15:58]
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CheckDavid Blue? [15:59]
CheckDavid You guys means this? [16:00]
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CheckDavid http://www.coinside.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_0549-kopiya.jpg [16:00]
CheckDavid I don't get why they are so skinny though [16:00]
ThickAsThieves eww [16:00]
ThickAsThieves 2 of the girls are aliens [16:01]
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ThickAsThieves "This game is anticipated to be rate Mature" lol. [16:02]
pankkake mature as in milf? [16:02]
mircea_popescu no, mature as in heroin addict chicks. [16:02]
mircea_popescu what's with these people and body painting unhealthy looking women ? [16:03]
ThickAsThieves rated* [16:03]
mircea_popescu whoa. panties on ?! omfg the indignity [16:03]
pankkake that was a tentative joke. anyway, have to agree on the trend of linking to trilema on every blog post [16:03]
ThickAsThieves i was more digging at bitcoinpete, mp's #1 fan [16:04]
mircea_popescu well what are you gonna do, ban me ? DO NOT HATE ME BECAUSE I AM BEEEEAUTIFULH! [16:04]
ThickAsThieves lol [16:04]
ThickAsThieves i'm just jelly! [16:05]
pankkake BingoBoingo and benkay are good at the game too [16:05]
pankkake though I actually read your first post thanks to a trilema pingback, so, it werks [16:05]
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mircea_popescu pankkake do you like analytix the fuck out of those blogs ? [16:06]
mircea_popescu link count and everything ? [16:06]
ThickAsThieves even when we break out of the channel and its impossible log, we create a web of cross-referenced blogs to further fuck with newcomers [16:06]
pankkake I'm susbscribed to trilema comments so I see the links, that's all [16:06]
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mircea_popescu oh i see [16:06]
mircea_popescu wait, you can still be subscribed to comments ? like via email ? [16:06]
pankkake RSS [16:06]
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pankkake but I rarely see this practice (linking to posts) nowadays, even though this probably gave the name to "blogosphere" [16:07]
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pankkake now it's all about CENTRALIZED platforms! [16:08]
ThickAsThieves because most bloggers have no friends [16:08]
ThickAsThieves not even internet ones [16:08]
pankkake I made friends by blogging!! [16:08]
pankkake GIRLS. [16:08]
pankkake well, girl [16:08]
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mircea_popescu actually i link a lot. [16:08]
ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-foundation-vote-yields-no-new-board-members/ [16:09]
ThickAsThieves lel [16:09]
mircea_popescu i love linking. and i still believe in the old concepts of the web, from back like 1999 [16:09]
mircea_popescu pankkake is she here ? [16:09]
pankkake web2.0 also had "semantic web" but it never really existed :( [16:09]
pankkake we don't talk anymore unfortunately [16:09]
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mircea_popescu "web 2.0" and all its associated bullshits lawl. [16:10]
mircea_popescu web 1.0 was and sitll is good enough. in the sense of way better than any walled garden bullshit. [16:10]
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pankkake semantic web is all about urls and proper markup [16:10]
ThickAsThieves i saw someone use ethereum and the like as a Web 3.0 reference [16:10]
ThickAsThieves i almost died [16:10]
pankkake not 1MB of javascript [16:10]
pankkake lol [16:10]
ThickAsThieves maybe we'll just start calling generations that way instead of Generation X, it's Web 3.0! [16:11]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves im kinda curious how far the nonsense will go. specificaslly, if the comatose media-only "Web 2.0" will be forgotten and a new web 2.0 will be enacted, out of the same pressed shitboard, [16:11]
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mircea_popescu or if they will take 2.0 as a thing that actually existed, and continue the count. [16:11]
ThickAsThieves i think itll get to 3.0 then go away [16:12]
ThickAsThieves 4.0 starts looking silly, even to idiots [16:12]
ThickAsThieves but i'm known for overestimating the idiot [16:12]
mircea_popescu you know knuth counted to pi. [16:12]
ThickAsThieves idiot [16:13]
ThickAsThieves :) [16:13]
mircea_popescu wait wut [16:13]
mircea_popescu lol [16:13]
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ThickAsThieves Brock Pierce, what a name [16:15]
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mircea_popescu let me guess. yet another ex child actor turned bitcoin investiteur ? [16:15]
ThickAsThieves yep, Gyft [16:15]
ThickAsThieves and The Mighty Ducks [16:16]
cazalla for all of 10 seconds [16:16]
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ThickAsThieves But the idea that underage boys were drugged and raped at the Encino estate, and sometimes threatened with guns by Collins-Rector, is hardly new. Egan was one of several young men to make such allegations in lawsuits filed against Collins-Rector, Shackley and Pierce 14 years ago -- court cases in which the plaintiffs won $4.5 million from Collins-Rector and Shackley by default because [16:17]
ThickAsThieves the trio had fled the country (Pierce reached a settlement). [16:17]
mircea_popescu lmao [16:17]
mircea_popescu so it'd be safe to say he was attracted to bitcoin by bruce wagner ? [16:18]
ThickAsThieves Pierce's most recent bio says he is co-founder of GoCoin, ExpressCoin, KnCMiner.cn and Robocoin Asia. [16:18]
mircea_popescu i wonder if asicminer has figured out yet that it can probably make a decent penny selling such "board seats" [16:19]
ThickAsThieves GoCoin, isnt that the one all the SeedCoinFund people are butthurt about "missing" out on? [16:19]
mircea_popescu to celebrities desperate for retroactive "involvement" who still are noobish enough to imagine this will allow them to bypass the wot. [16:19]
ThickAsThieves i think the asicminer board is in an ill state actually [16:20]
ThickAsThieves they won't remove me from their email list so i still see hints of it [16:20]
ThickAsThieves participation appears to be low [16:20]
mircea_popescu well that's not really new. [16:20]
ThickAsThieves dividends moving to monthly [16:20]
ThickAsThieves shit like that [16:20]
ThickAsThieves yeah that's true, when i was there 10 people might show up, but only 3 or 4 ever talked [16:21]
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mircea_popescu lol. ah if only they had enough sense to do what told a while back. [16:21]
ThickAsThieves now it seems only 4 show up an hour late to nothing [16:22]
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ThickAsThieves The US economy created 288,000 jobs in April, the strongest monthly job creation since January 2012. [16:23]
ThickAsThieves "The one thing I would be careful with though is the decline in the unemployment rate, the decline in the unemployment rate was a function of the labour force falling by 806,000, that is gargantuan decline," he added. [16:24]
ThickAsThieves dafuck [16:24]
ThickAsThieves lol [16:24]
mircea_popescu people leave, what. [16:24]
mircea_popescu you want to leave, everyone you know here wants to leave, what's so surprising ? [16:25]
mircea_popescu a lot have left, a lot more are leaving and a helluva lot more will be leaving. [16:25]
ThickAsThieves well part of my dafuckness is how they are all "It's a flat out good report. All of the metrics that you want to see improve, did," said Tom Porcelli [16:26]
ThickAsThieves but then are like, well a million people left, so there's that [16:26]
ThickAsThieves left/died? [16:26]
mircea_popescu well... the reports that were made to make you feel good are made in the way that we agreed will make you feel good. [16:27]
mircea_popescu so why dont you feel good ? are you perhaps insane ? [16:27]
mircea_popescu it seems to me like this is slow onset schizophrenia, mydear boy. [16:27]
ThickAsThieves am i a terrorist? [16:28]
ThickAsThieves maybe xanax can sort me out [16:28]
ThickAsThieves the picture in the bbc article for it is awesome too http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27257760 [16:29]
mircea_popescu im kinda surprised nobody is selling slow-release xanax dildos yet. [16:29]
ThickAsThieves miserable dude in camo eating at the place he cleans shit [16:29]
mircea_popescu suckle your way to pleasant dreams [16:29]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2009/lectia-de-humor/ < i found an old english article! from 2009! [16:55]
ozbot Lectia de humor pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [16:55]
asciilifeform 'web 3.0' << 'i don't know what weapons ww3 will be fought with, but ww4 will be fought with bow and arrow' [16:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform course the flaw there is to assume people whose tech is bow and arrow have the means to fight a Ww. [16:59]
asciilifeform well sure. [16:59]
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asciilifeform but they might call it one. [17:00]
mircea_popescu and they probably will [17:01]
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asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-for-a-great-film/#comment-99493 [17:16]
ozbot The idea for a great film… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [17:16]
mircea_popescu answer't. [17:19]
asciilifeform lol!!! [17:20]
asciilifeform i like this one more. [17:20]
mircea_popescu see, the importance of community in one's life. [17:21]
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artifexd ;;later tell jurov Do you round deposits down to the nearest btc? [17:24]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/o-metoda-simpla-si-eficienta-de-a-produce-un-blog-excelent-pe-pasi/ <<< me on blogging. "simple and efficient way to produce an excellent blog, step by step" [17:38]
ozbot O metoda simpla si eficienta de-a produce un blog excelent, pe pasi. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea [17:38]
pankkake if only it was written in a simple and eficient language [17:40]
mircea_popescu yeah i should have it translated. [17:41]
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mircea_popescu ტ wow look at that, mouse glyph [17:48]
mircea_popescu ბ << fucktarded apple mouse glyph [17:48]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ბ is a mouse? looks more like 'anarchist bomb' [18:36]
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asciilifeform and ტ is - power switch. aka 'the any key.' [18:37]
Apocalyptic mircea_popescu: ბ is a mouse? // looks like an apple to me [18:37]
asciilifeform plum. [18:38]
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mircea_popescu well it's the eye of the beholder! [18:55]
mircea_popescu !up rgbiv [18:55]
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ThickAsThieves fwiw those characters appear much different depending on font in use [18:55]
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mircea_popescu hoiw are they in comic sans / [18:58]
ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/what-happens-inside-bitcoin-audit/ [18:59]
ThickAsThieves “A lot of these things are difficult to verify or prove” [18:59]
mircea_popescu derpdesk ? [18:59]
ThickAsThieves coinhusk [19:00]
mircea_popescu "Valuable skills [19:00]
mircea_popescu So, who is Stefan Thomas, and why is he the person Powell called? [19:00]
mircea_popescu Thomas is Chief Technical Officer at Ripple Labs, a company that created its own payment protocol and prides itself on a transparent public ledger of transactions." [19:00]
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mircea_popescu how to be so wrong you have no idea of exactly how wrong you are : read coindesk. [19:00]
mircea_popescu and wired. [19:00]
ThickAsThieves i cant even understand how Ripple guy still gets play [19:01]
ThickAsThieves like no one *really* uses it right? [19:01]
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ThickAsThieves and looking back at last year's AMS conference, he was pretty quiet on the panels [19:01]
mircea_popescu anyway, 5k words and no mention of the actual point this all started from. [19:04]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-kraken-com-exchange-now-open-with-usd-eur-btc-ltc-xrp-nmc-xdg.168224/page-57#msg4924847 [19:04]
ozbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 57 | Bitcointa.lk [19:04]
mircea_popescu for the people keeping score at home. [19:04]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-kraken-com-exchange-now-open-with-usd-eur-btc-ltc-xrp-nmc-xdg.168224/page-57#post-4671068 even. [19:04]
ozbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 57 | Bitcointa.lk [19:04]
mircea_popescu (dargo also quit, subsequently) [19:05]
mircea_popescu so that makes her 2 out of 2. [19:05]
mircea_popescu guess who's the expert in this story. [19:05]
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kakobrekla how did he quit, he is still providing support [19:05]
mircea_popescu last seen on the forum what, late feb ? [19:06]
mircea_popescu support is one thing. [19:06]
kakobrekla https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-kraken-com-exchange-now-open-with-usd-eur-btc-ltc-xrp-nmc-xdg.168224/page-93#post-6185968 [19:06]
ozbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 93 | Bitcointa.lk [19:06]
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kakobrekla how about wednesday [19:07]
mircea_popescu hm [19:07]
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mircea_popescu Dargo was last seen: Feb 27, 2014 [19:07]
mircea_popescu whgat the fuck is this [19:07]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/members/dargo.30215/ << what do you get there ? [19:08]
ozbot Dargo | Bitcointa.lk [19:08]
mircea_popescu Last Activity: Feb 27, 2014 Joined: Jul 8, 2011 is what i get [19:08]
kakobrekla dat thing doesnt work [19:09]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=32856 [19:09]
ozbot View the profile of Dargo [19:09]
kakobrekla Last Active: Today at 02:45:22 PM [19:09]
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mircea_popescu omfg i've been bambozled. [19:09]
artifexd Bloomberg is using Kraken as the source? WTF? They had less than 10btc of volume in the last 24 hours. Talk about a fucked up signal. [19:09]
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kakobrekla yes but look at the logo [19:09]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell cevidad yo! there's some brokage in your forum. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#655592 [19:09]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:09]
mircea_popescu artifexd you obviously don't have the "valuable skills" to understand these things :D [19:10]
artifexd Apparently.... [19:10]
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ThickAsThieves i think it's cevidad [19:10]
Apocalyptic Bloomberg is using Kraken as the source? WTF? << same reaction here [19:10]
mircea_popescu ;;seen cevidad [19:10]
gribble I have not seen cevidad. [19:10]
mircea_popescu ;;seen cedivad [19:10]
gribble cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: i actually have one, but i never really wrote about hashfast, bitcointa.lk or any other of my web-related experiences (i manage some really huge websites)... [19:10]
ThickAsThieves oh [19:10]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves dyslexia! [19:11]
ThickAsThieves dylsexia ftk [19:11]
ThickAsThieves ftl [19:11]
ThickAsThieves lol [19:11]
ThickAsThieves you even beat me at self-deprecation [19:11]
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mircea_popescu for the lol ? for the kelp ? [19:13]
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ThickAsThieves for the loss [19:19]
ThickAsThieves for the kale [19:19]
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ThickAsThieves haha, cleaning old stuff and found a business plan i did to open a record store, i was pretty young obv: "XXXX XXXX will help me with of retail store's responsibilities. He is an extremely trusted friend and works very well with people. I whole-heartedly feel he is my best and favorite choice for the position." [19:26]
ThickAsThieves I kicked him off the project shortly after, and we nearly came to blows as roommates not long after that. I never got past writing the plan, thankfully. [19:27]
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fluffypony old business proposals make me cringe [19:30]
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mircea_popescu lol [19:33]
mircea_popescu you know i never wrote one ? [19:33]
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fluffypony I always enjoyed it as a way to cement my thoughts [19:39]
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fluffypony https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/p480x480/10260012_10152356519251069_6233155153590700494_n.jpg [19:47]
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fluffypony caption: "rioters trying to convince the police to install vlc media player" [19:47]
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bitcoinpete fluffypony: lol nice [19:47]
bitcoinpete http://www.vox.com/2014/4/30/5668588/illinois-connecticut-maryland-gallup-interstate-migration-rates [19:47]
ozbot Half of people living in Illinois and Connecticut want to get the hell out - Vox [19:47]
bitcoinpete "Montanans, Hawaiians, and Mainers are least likely to say they'd want to leave, with fewer than one-quarter of those residents saying they'd move" [19:48]
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mircea_popescu lol [19:55]
mircea_popescu fluffypony no, i meant as a kid. they do this "o write a business plan" many places. [19:55]
fluffypony oh lol [19:55]
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bitcoinpete Now my posts are being translated: [20:11]
bitcoinpete http://t.co/x7ilwpgVmJ [20:11]
bitcoinpete effin' twitter links… http://elbitcoin.org/ciudadanos-de-bitcoinlandia/ [20:12]
Apocalyptic nice bitcoinpete [20:12]
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bitcoinpete Apocalyptic: hehe i'll take it [20:13]
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bitcoinpete http://marie-lynn.org/2014/04/27/trying-something-new/ [20:30]
ozbot Trying something new. | Marie-Lynn Richard [20:30]
bitcoinpete "For a few months, I have been developing business relationships with people in Bitcoin. As with any of the communities I have joined and thrived in the past 25 years, I am paying my dues in Bitcoin by doing some volounteer work." [20:31]
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bitcoinpete " So far my experience of Bitcoin has been rather sad. I received my first Bitcoin paycheck a few months ago and promptly lost 30% of it due to the dip. I was then almost unable to extract it from Vault of Satoshi because they stopped sending out checks. I was able to pay for my membership to Bitcoin Alliance and Bitcoin Foundation at least. " [20:32]
bitcoinpete more irlloling [20:33]
pankkake :( [20:33]
fluffypony why would she pay for memberships to the foundation? [20:34]
bitcoinpete pankkake: ya, her situation sounds crummy. i invited her here so maybe she can do something in the future [20:35]
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bitcoinpete fluffypony: the poverty of altruism [20:36]
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fluffypony !up MarieLynn [20:36]
assbot Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes. [20:36]
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fluffypony MarieLynn: we've just been talking about you :) [20:37]
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MarieLynn uh ho!! [20:37]
MarieLynn Hi peeps! [20:37]
bitcoinpete MarieLynn: howdy! [20:37]
fluffypony so the "trying something new" post is the first post I've read on your blog [20:37]
fluffypony which is the case for mostly everyone here, I would imagine [20:37]
fluffypony can you give us a bit of background? [20:38]
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fluffypony (also I had to Google aspie polymath and file that under today's new learning:) [20:38]
pankkake surprising. perhaps because I know too much aspie polymaths :| [20:39]
pankkake http://marie-lynn.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/do-all-the-things.jpg I think this is a good summary lol [20:39]
fluffypony lol [20:39]
pankkake (of the blog) [20:39]
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MarieLynn I have been transparent about my life on the Internet for almost 24 years [20:40]
MarieLynn Now I am being transparent abotu how hard it is to get into bitcoin and stay housed!! [20:40]
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fluffypony lol [20:41]
MarieLynn I am a lonely basement hacker. I build websites and online businesses. [20:41]
pankkake do you mean earn a living with bitcoin? [20:41]
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MarieLynn But my entire life is online, what do you want to know specifically? [20:41]
fluffypony MarieLynn: nothing specific, and thank you - that was very enlightening :) [20:42]
MarieLynn I currently work for Charlie Shrem but we are done with the urgent stuff. I want to continue doing what I do but for cool bitcoin startup. [20:42]
kakobrekla ;;gettrust MarieLynn [20:42]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user MarieLynn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=MarieLynn | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=MarieLynn | Rated since: never [20:42]
mod6 small typo: homoeless [20:42]
bitcoinpete MarieLynn: you should get in the wot http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/03/27/who-what-where-when-why-web-of-trust/ [20:43]
fluffypony ^^^ [20:43]
MarieLynn I am following the links ;) [20:43]
pankkake it's cheaper than the bitcoin foundation membership (free) and is actually useful :p [20:43]
kakobrekla you self promoting bastards; http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation [20:43]
bitcoinpete MarieLynn: and register your nick http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/03/31/biting-into-the-wot-elephant-and-irc-nicknames/ [20:43]
fluffypony lol [20:44]
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pankkake the wot allows us to to useful things like: [20:44]
pankkake ;;rate -1 bitcoinpete spammer [20:44]
gribble Error: 'bitcoinpete' is not a valid integer. [20:44]
pankkake ;;rate bitcoinpete -1 spammer [20:44]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded. [20:44]
fluffypony kakobrekla: somehow I don't think bitcoinpete is profiting off his blog ;) [20:44]
pankkake ;;unrate bitcoinpete [20:44]
gribble Successfully removed your rating for bitcoinpete. [20:44]
bitcoinpete pankkake: well played [20:44]
bitcoinpete kakobrekla: i get it! [20:44]
bitcoinpete lol [20:44]
kakobrekla im just busting balls mostly [20:45]
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bitcoinpete fluffypony: not directly, of course [20:45]
fluffypony bitcoinpete: of course [20:45]
MarieLynn I am not a frequent user of IRC since 1997, sry [20:45]
fluffypony MarieLynn: also it seems you were spared by struggling to get verified on Cavirtex - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1uc28f/tired_of_seeing_canadians_get_ripped_off_by/ [20:46]
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pankkake didn't they rip off their shareholders too? [20:46]
bitcoinpete pankkake: yup, they generally blow dead bears [20:47]
BingoBoingo CaVirtex just be ripping off everybody [20:47]
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pankkake MarieLynn: oh so the French on the blog is because you're from Canada. Tabernacle ! [20:47]
MarieLynn My boyfriend has a gun license and apparently that got him validated. I only have provincial health card with photo and passport and thats not good enough.é [20:48]
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fluffypony between Apocalyptic, pankkake, davout, and now MarieLynn (and who knows who else) I feel at such a disadvantage for not speaking French [20:48]
MarieLynn I want a bitcoin ATM card else my hopes of a bitcoin life are limited. [20:48]
pankkake fluffypony: your only play is to learn romanian and crush us all [20:48]
fluffypony hah hah [20:48]
fluffypony I'm too busy learning German so I can gossip with my mother-in-law about my wife ;) [20:48]
bitcoinpete et moi aussi! [20:49]
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pankkake le complot français [20:49]
MarieLynn Thanks for the CAVirtex thread I will rad carefully. But what are the issues other than ID verification woes?! [20:50]
bitcoinpete fluffypony: i did a few german lesson on duolingo, orangensaft! [20:50]
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MarieLynn http://circonference.ca [20:50]
MarieLynn my blog about crypto, has an english podcast as well. [20:50]
bitcoinpete MarieLynn: ripping off "investors" on havelock, joseph david being a stooge... [20:50]
MarieLynn Thanks for the keywords bitcoinpete [20:51]
pankkake well if you want to buy or sell bitcoins, you can use bitcoin-otc http://bitcoin-otc.com/ - of course, you're dealing with users directly, so you have to be careful *who* your are dealing with [20:52]
pankkake http://qbc.io/ hahaha [20:52]
fluffypony MarieLynn: so since I live in South Africa I've also struggled with that - we only had 1 exchange (now 2) and their volumes are terrible. I can cash out from BitStamp to my bank account, but it is irritating. Two solutions I've found: 1. If it's bigger than $1k use BitPay. Sign up, get verified, and then invoice yourself when you need money paid out to your Ca bank account. 2. For smaller amounts, use person-to-person trading either on [20:52]
fluffypony Freenode in #bitcoin-otc (which also uses the WoT mentioned earlier) or on localbitcoins (you can arrange to meet people face-to-face, and lower your risk by not sending anything till you have cash-in-hand) [20:52]
fluffypony oh well pankkake already mentioned 2 :) [20:52]
bitcoinpete http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/05/02/bitcoin-cafe-in-limbo-at-mt-gox-building/ < [20:53]
ozbot Bitcoin Cafe in Limbo at Mt. Gox Building - Japan Real Time - WSJ [20:53]
bitcoinpete "According to people at the exchange, the 28-year-old Frenchman was slow to grasp Mt. Gox’s troubles. As recently as early February, he didn’t imagine most of the virtual currency possessed by Mt. Gox and its customers were gone, they say." [20:53]
bitcoinpete "Believing Mt. Gox’s troubles were manageable, Mr. Karpelès devoted much of his time to the bitcoin café" [20:53]
bitcoinpete and since when does karpelès have that accent in his name? [20:54]
fluffypony "It was to feature a rich menu of French quiches and coffee drinks" [20:54]
pankkake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s apparently scamming gets you on wikipedia [20:54]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete poor woman [20:55]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn wait, that's you ? [20:55]
mircea_popescu surprising. perhaps because I know too much aspie polymaths :| << too many, frenchie. much is for french fries :D [20:55]
pankkake Mark or Karpelès aren't very French looking name [20:55]
pankkake right [20:55]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: yup! [20:55]
MarieLynn mircea That's me what? [20:55]
fluffypony bitcoinpete: you mean his name isn't Ḱąȑṕệļễŝ? who knew. [20:55]
MarieLynn LOL fluffy [20:56]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn ok, so transparent about your life for 24 years ? gimme the highligts, how old are you, what do you do ? [20:56]
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mircea_popescu !up trixisowned [20:56]
assbot Voicing trixisowned for 30 minutes. [20:56]
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BingoBoingo Some old Taaki Derp: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3451.msg48961#msg48961 [20:57]
bitcoinpete "I have 246 cos in my database of bitcoin-related businesses and I did not know about that group :) IRC is so vintage!" -MarieLynn <<246 cos, guaranteed none on mpex [20:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.03399999 = 0.102 BTC [+] [20:57]
mircea_popescu what's a cos, like cosplay ? [20:57]
mircea_popescu trixisowned soo... who owns ya ? [20:57]
MarieLynn I am 43, I have been developing for the Web since 1994 [20:57]
mircea_popescu wait. [20:58]
mircea_popescu marie lynn who ? [20:58]
MarieLynn Google 'Marie-Lynn Richard' [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5748 @ 0.00096945 = 5.5724 BTC [-] [20:58]
bitcoinpete ;;google marie lynn richard [20:59]
gribble Marie-Lynn Richard | Social Media & Web Technologist ...: ; Marie-Lynn Richard (mlrichard) on Twitter: ; Marie-Lynn Richard - Canada | LinkedIn: [20:59]
mircea_popescu o hey. [20:59]
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pankkake "I'm thinking the program would upload the GPG private key in case you ever lost it" that? lol [20:59]
mircea_popescu what's a "Nillionaire" ? [20:59]
pankkake Nil-lionnaire [20:59]
fluffypony pankkake: "If not found then popup dialog asking for username/password & download GPG private key" [21:00]
fluffypony ah ok [21:00]
fluffypony so your GPG private key, the essence of securing your identity with GPG, is protected behind a mere username and password [21:00]
fluffypony sekuriteez [21:00]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn aite, well, welcome. [21:00]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: did he go on to create Keybase.io? [21:01]
fluffypony :-P [21:01]
mircea_popescu you probably want to brew a gallon of coffees and go through the logs. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com [21:01]
fluffypony gin and tonic time [21:02]
mike_c or brew one cup and go through http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/ [21:02]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: maybe disney can make your movie happen: http://www.theonion.com/articles/disney-ceo-figures-theyve-built-up-enough-goodwill,35874/ [21:02]
MarieLynn ;;gpg eregister MarieLynn 8DD69C90 [21:02]
gribble Error: '8DD69C90' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. [21:02]
mircea_popescu between Apocalyptic, pankkake, davout, and now MarieLynn (and who knows who else) I feel at such a disadvantage for not speaking French << nubbins. [21:03]
MarieLynn Thanks guys! [21:03]
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bitcoinpete MarieLynn: don't mention it! [21:03]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: so when are we renaming the room #bitcoin-ásséts ? [21:04]
pankkake speaking of passwords, I'm slowly moving towards requiring more than a password everywhere to access my data [21:04]
fluffypony or #le-bitcoin-ásséts [21:04]
Apocalyptic sounds hungarian to me [21:04]
Apocalyptic (french don't have á ) [21:05]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: Probably around 1750 or so [21:05]
MarieLynn I want to join the WOT but I cannot find my long form id, it's in the friggin UBUNTU key server. [21:05]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i hate accents and shit. i write romanian without too [21:05]
pankkake MarieLynn: gpg -k --keyid-format=long (if you use the CLI) [21:06]
mircea_popescu ^ [21:06]
MarieLynn ;;gpg eregister MarieLynn 59748D208DD69C90 [21:06]
gribble Request successful for user MarieLynn, hostmask MarieLynn!4a74bfc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.116.191.194. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/59748D208DD69C90 [21:06]
MarieLynn hey, it didn't complain :) [21:06]
mircea_popescu gpg --list-keys --fingerprint does the samer thing [21:06]
fluffypony Apocalyptic: it was une petit blague [21:07]
MarieLynn So are you guys here all the time? 24/7 [21:07]
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fluffypony !up MarieLynn [21:07]
assbot Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes. [21:07]
* assbot gives voice to MarieLynn [21:07]
pankkake depends. logs are available by the way: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ [21:07]
mircea_popescu petite [21:07]
fluffypony gd [21:08]
fluffypony petite [21:08]
MarieLynn what does voicing mean? (remember no irc since 1997 here...) [21:08]
mircea_popescu !down MarieLynn [21:08]
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mircea_popescu now you can't talk see ? [21:08]
mircea_popescu !up MarieLynn [21:08]
assbot Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes. [21:08]
* assbot gives voice to MarieLynn [21:08]
MarieLynn sdds [21:08]
pankkake if the channel has the +m mode, only +v users can talk. otherwise, it's just vanity [21:08]
MarieLynn alrighty then :) [21:09]
mircea_popescu so basically MarieLynn is moiety in 20 years ? :D [21:09]
MarieLynn moiety? [21:09]
fluffypony "Mr. Karpelès purchased a $35,000 Backen pastry oven and a $23,000 La Marzocco coffee machine, say the people involved in the project. He also hired an independent pastry consultant and put a Tibanne employee full-time on the café project." [21:09]
fluffypony lawlicious [21:09]
mircea_popescu lol [21:09]
kakobrekla this is a joke right? [21:09]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla nah. [21:10]
fluffypony kakobrekla: how else do you start a Bitcoin café without a pastry consultant? [21:10]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn there's a chick here, by that name. she's in her 20s, tries to run online communities and also likes cats. [21:10]
kakobrekla fluffypony you got me there. [21:10]
mircea_popescu fluffypony no macarons tho. very scam, this french. [21:10]
pankkake ;;rate MarieLynn 1 http://marie-lynn.org/ [21:11]
gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. [21:11]
fluffypony lol [21:11]
pankkake MarieLynn: you're missing the last step, decrypting the OTP, I guess [21:11]
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MarieLynn Well awesome for her. When I was 20 I had to compase the facebook and photocopy it and send it through the regular mail :) [21:11]
fluffypony ;;ud compase [21:12]
gribble Google found nothing. [21:12]
* fluffypony breathes a sight of relief [21:12]
pankkake compile? [21:12]
fluffypony compose? [21:12]
kakobrekla compass [21:13]
fluffypony comp ass [21:13]
mircea_popescu http://marie-lynn.org/blog/page/31/ < check it out, 1990s blog posts [21:13]
ozbot Marie-Lynn Richard | Social Media & Web Technologist / Entrepreneur / Mom / Crafty Bitch [21:13]
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mircea_popescu http://marie-lynn.org/1992/03/01/temps-libres/ lol. [21:14]
ozbot Magazine Temps Libres | Marie-Lynn Richard [21:14]
MarieLynn These are entries from my project files :) I just imported those they are not yet correctly formatted. [21:14]
mircea_popescu "you love exploring the world but you got no money. what do you do ?" [21:14]
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mircea_popescu you'd expect "suck a mean cock", but no. "go to a museum" [21:14]
MarieLynn http://marie-lynn.org/2013/09/14/behind-the-scenes-of-the-original-face-book/ [21:15]
ozbot Behind the Scenes of the Original Face Book | Marie-Lynn Richard [21:15]
MarieLynn Ozbot we are soulmates I guess [21:15]
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mircea_popescu it's a bot, it reads the title. [21:16]
fluffypony or just put in your Encarta 1995 CD and browse [21:16]
MarieLynn LOL [21:16]
mircea_popescu "What does a girls do when guys online keep asking for her photo?" [21:16]
mircea_popescu drops the s ? [21:16]
MarieLynn ;;gpg eauth MarieLynn [21:19]
gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. [21:19]
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mircea_popescu MarieLynn you have to register it with nickserv. [21:20]
kakobrekla he means gribble [21:20]
mircea_popescu wait, she did that no ? [21:20]
pankkake MarieLynn: you have to decrypt the OTP link it gave you earlier. http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/59748D208DD69C90 [21:20]
mircea_popescu oh nm me. [21:20]
mircea_popescu well ok, off to show the girls caligula. laters. [21:21]
MarieLynn ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:a1338dc312fcbfa6cddc12fd4ccd03a73196ac87572155292907c7c8 [21:21]
gribble Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user MarieLynn with key 59748D208DD69C90 [21:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07343379 = 0.1469 BTC [+] {2} [21:21]
pankkake ;;rate MarieLynn 1 http://marie-lynn.org/ [21:21]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user MarieLynn has been recorded. [21:21]
MarieLynn I used to compose/compile the facebook by hand and send it through snail mail [21:22]
Apocalyptic MarieLynn, everytime i read your nick it reminds me of Merrill Lynch [21:22]
MarieLynn Okay, I made my way through this WOT thingy ! [21:22]
pankkake you should sue Mark Zuckerberg [21:22]
kakobrekla you are able to voice yourself now btw, by typing !up to assbot private chat, MarieLynn . [21:22]
MarieLynn Thanks pankkake [21:23]
MarieLynn I invented SEO too, just so we are on the same page LOL [21:23]
ThickAsThieves MarieLynn your blog lacks an Altcoin logo [21:23]
MarieLynn What do you mean, there are like 8 on the front page [21:23]
ThickAsThieves www.therealaltocin.org [21:24]
MarieLynn I am launching my own altcoin soon BTW [21:24]
ThickAsThieves oops [21:24]
pankkake no, Altcoin, the altcoin [21:24]
pankkake :) [21:24]
ThickAsThieves www.therealaltcoin.org [21:24]
ThickAsThieves it's goal is to make all altcoins useless [21:24]
MarieLynn TaT, I will add it to my database. There are almost 700 coins in my friggin database. [21:24]
ThickAsThieves so everyone can focus on one altcoin, Altcoin [21:24]
MarieLynn Too many coins! [21:25]
pankkake hence Altcoin [21:25]
ThickAsThieves yeah you can get rid of the other Altcoins probly, would be much cleaner! [21:25]
MarieLynn I will look at it seriously promise. It's my self-imposed job to figure out all this [21:25]
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ThickAsThieves you might enjoy the linked thread and other services on the home page [21:25]
ThickAsThieves no pre-mine! [21:26]
ThickAsThieves etc [21:26]
MarieLynn Well... There are useful alt coins or coins that have a very specific niche, I believe in those but the coingen copy paste alt coins is like vomit [21:26]
ThickAsThieves lol [21:26]
kakobrekla you guys are worse than traveling agents [21:26]
kakobrekla imma bbl. [21:26]
MarieLynn Our coin is going to be so unique, I am not even sure exchanges will touch it with a ten foot pole... Will be interesting [21:27]
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ThickAsThieves well it's kinda hard to introduce ATC to someone [21:27]
pankkake I made a coin that no exchange touched [21:27]
ThickAsThieves and an investment fund no one invested in [21:27]
fluffypony PankkakeKoin? [21:27]
MarieLynn which one was it [21:27]
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pankkake Bernankoin. they didn't touch it for good reason, it simply cannot have a non-decreasing value [21:28]
MarieLynn I am sure there are applications for our concept coin but so far it's just a surrealist coin R&D experiment. [21:28]
fluffypony someone should fork TimeKoin [21:28]
MarieLynn LOL great concept [21:28]
MarieLynn What does TimeKoin do? [21:28]
fluffypony MarieLynn: it's written in PHP [21:29]
ThickAsThieves waste time? [21:29]
fluffypony that should tell you everything you need to know [21:29]
MarieLynn hahaha! [21:29]
MarieLynn Do any of you want to co-found a 100% new coin concept? It's going to be super fun. Right now we need a crypto-educated developer (wallets) but the rest we have already written. [21:30]
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ThickAsThieves 1 altcoin is already stretching the attention span [21:31]
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fluffypony MarieLynn: unfortunately I'm a poor C developer [21:32]
fluffypony I'm much better at being an A to all the Ds on the forum [21:32]
MarieLynn Wouldn't that put you above the average alt coin developer Fluffy? :) [21:33]
pankkake eheh [21:33]
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fluffypony lol [21:34]
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pankkake I learned truly nothing by altcoining. My code even made GCC emit warnings and I didn't care [21:34]
MarieLynn Is this a 24/7 thing or do you have mneetup times? [21:34]
fluffypony 24/7 [21:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0319999 = 0.224 BTC [+] [21:35]
fluffypony but we're all on different timezones [21:35]
pankkake it's 24/7, but you can get a reply hours later. it's generally as everywhere on IRC [21:35]
fluffypony so it waxes and wanes [21:35]
fluffypony which is why everyone checks the logs - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com [21:35]
MarieLynn Tx [21:36]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.2720 is getting interesting. there are still some strongly delusional people, but some others are actually considering doing SOMETHING (next page) [21:37]
ozbot [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] [21:37]
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pankkake if the second ones get something out of the company, even at the expense of the firsts, I'd be happy [21:39]
pankkake and by expense I mean that when the first ones sue, there will be nothing left, not that they would have gotten anything by playing nice [21:39]
fluffypony ;;gettrust assbot MarieLynn [21:39]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask MarieLynn!4a74bfc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.116.191.194. Trust relationship from user assbot to user MarieLynn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=MarieLynn | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=MarieLynn | Rated since: Fri May 2 14:21:45 2014 [21:39]
fluffypony MarieLynn: if you want to up yourself you can just message !up to assbot [21:40]
fluffypony pankkake: what's this 4 year investigation thing? playing catch up [21:41]
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pankkake Missouri Securities Division sending the issuer a letter. not much more is known [21:42]
fluffypony interesting [21:43]
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MarieLynn I am back [22:15]
MarieLynn Tx Fluffy [22:15]
fluffypony no problemo [22:16]
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thestringpuller A female in #bitcoin-assets [22:24]
thestringpuller i'm sure mircea_popescu will be pleased [22:24]
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thestringpuller !jd MPIF [22:26]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.71643613 BTC [22:26]
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pankkake I'd think b-a has a higher female ratio than most bitcoin channels [22:29]
mircea_popescu ;;rate MarieLynn 1 she's been failing at succeeding for decades now. that takes mettle. [22:30]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user MarieLynn has been recorded. [22:30]
kakobrekla pankkake most = any [22:31]
kakobrekla prolly same goes for mps conf, but that is saved cause of the low attendance count overall :D [22:32]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn: unfortunately I'm a poor C developer << how da heck are you poor now. [22:32]
thestringpuller LOL [22:32]
fluffypony hah [22:32]
thestringpuller fluffypony can't get credit at < 20% [22:32]
fluffypony poor: "of a low or inferior standard or quality." [22:32]
mircea_popescu if the second ones get something out of the company, even at the expense of the firsts, I'd be happy << need a company first. [22:33]
mircea_popescu pankkake most = any << defo. there's what, like a dozen girls here. [22:33]
fluffypony thestringpuller: depends on the product, but for personal loans we get shafted here :/ [22:34]
MarieLynn Mircea I've been succeeding at failing rather LOL :) [22:34]
pankkake I try to make my statements harder to contradict while keeping them provocative enough [22:34]
kakobrekla you mean you like to sound like a pussy [22:34]
mircea_popescu ^ [22:34]
mircea_popescu everybody fucking types faster than i can [22:34]
mircea_popescu i wonder if keeping both hands on kbd'd help [22:35]
pankkake that slander [22:35]
mod6 im slow typer too :/ [22:35]
kakobrekla i was accused of same, then told pussies have a big heart. so go with that. [22:35]
mod6 haha [22:35]
MarieLynn Mircea, thanks for the Tweet. I used to buy a lot of art from Romania, I kept the cute export papers in French :) [22:36]
mircea_popescu pussies have a big heart because all the cocks coming in and out enlarge it in the end. [22:36]
mircea_popescu MarieLynn like what art ? [22:36]
mircea_popescu http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/02/yo-bitcoin-assets-i-put-contrarianism-in-your-contrarianism/ << here's pancake trying to rebrand being a pussy as being a gadfly. [22:37]
ozbot Yo #bitcoin-assets, I put contrarianism in your contrarianism | pankkake [22:37]
MarieLynn Student art from an assistant professor. Most of it counts as cubist :) [22:37]
pankkake what's pussy about that? [22:37]
mircea_popescu nothing, really. [22:37]
mircea_popescu but I try to make my statements harder to contradict while keeping them absurd enough [22:37]
pankkake :D [22:38]
pankkake I thought your technique was to drown in words [22:41]
pankkake "let me tell you a story…" contradictor falls asleep, win by default [22:41]
MarieLynn Bacău mostly this one is my favorite piece of Romanian Art https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1pfi2vnfuhizl6/2014-05-02%2015.36.54.jpg [22:43]
thestringpuller let me tell you a story about a henchman named speedy [22:43]
pankkake I just want to rotate it for some reason [22:43]
ThickAsThieves well you guys can blog about superiority, pankakke about inferiority, and i'll take ulteriority [22:43]
pankkake who will blog about seniority? [22:44]
MarieLynn Have fun rotating, there's a lot of kookey things goin on in there ;) [22:44]
pankkake oh it's a horse! of course, it's romanian [22:44]
ThickAsThieves isnt seniority superiority? [22:44]
pankkake unless it's senility [22:45]
fluffypony pankkake: did you just admit to being old? [22:45]
ThickAsThieves is there an iority for meta? [22:45]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: mediocrity [22:45]
ThickAsThieves was waiting for it [22:46]
pankkake I wouln't be considered old, I don't really like being old, but I feel old [22:46]
mike_c tsk tsk kakobrekla. http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1755239/thumbs/o-YOU-DONT-SAY-570.jpg?2 [22:46]
kakobrekla yeah well tell that to lampelina when she wants me to remove a spider or such. [22:47]
ThickAsThieves but now you're calling him a coward [22:47]
ThickAsThieves is there poster for that? [22:47]
mike_c no, non-gender specific insults are fine [22:47]
ThickAsThieves ah [22:47]
pankkake mike_c: that whole campaign… ugh :( [22:48]
kakobrekla yeah, well the stigma did not create itself [22:48]
mike_c pankkake: i know. the thought process of whoever wrote those.. it's painful to think about. [22:49]
MarieLynn Hey you guys, can you pause calling eact other pussies to look at another animal? :P [22:50]
MarieLynn I made a t-shirt [22:50]
MarieLynn https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21419725/satoshi-goose-t-shirt.jpg [22:50]
ThickAsThieves lol [22:50]
MarieLynn Going into pre-order pretty soon. You like? [22:50]
pankkake nice [22:50]
kakobrekla bitcoin shitting duck? [22:50]
ThickAsThieves goose [22:51]
ThickAsThieves yeah it's neat [22:51]
MarieLynn It's a golden egg goose :) [22:51]
kakobrekla golden turdmeister is what i see. [22:51]
MarieLynn It goes with a feature article I am writing about a brain wallet we are trying to decrypt right now [22:51]
kakobrekla maybe im simpleminded [22:52]
mike_c no, that goose is definitely shitting bitcoin. [22:52]
MarieLynn well, yes, technically, these birds have only one hole so they are either turds or eggs LOL [22:53]
pankkake this is actually quite fascinating [22:53]
mike_c but geese don't lay eggs standing up [22:53]
MarieLynn Kinda goes with the story.. [22:53]
kakobrekla the story of golden turd [22:54]
ThickAsThieves it's a superior goose [22:54]
kakobrekla bitcoin dev replies: "yeah but its still in beta you know!" [22:54]
ThickAsThieves it lays upright [22:54]
MarieLynn do you guys think bitcoins are golden eggs or turds? [22:55]
ThickAsThieves golden turds [22:55]
thestringpuller ;;google american dad golden poop [22:55]
gribble The Golden Turd - American Dad! Wiki - Roger, Steve, Stan: ; The Gold Turd Returns - American Dad - Adult Swim Video: ; Roger (American Dad!) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [22:55]
MarieLynn For me it's hard to know, there is always a fricking bitcoin dip right after I get paid!! [22:55]
pankkake https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%92uf_carr%C3%A9 [22:55]
thestringpuller you're doing it wrong [22:56]
ThickAsThieves i think bitcoins are just millions of satoshis in disguise [22:56]
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kakobrekla MarieLynn stop getting paid already. [22:56]
mike_c you get paid in bitcoin? nice. [22:56]
pankkake well, don't get paid in bitcoin if you don't intend to hold, really [22:56]
MarieLynn I need the money dude I mistakenly thought that going into bitcoin would get me bitcoins... like more than 1 LOL [22:58]
kakobrekla !b 1 [22:59]
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kakobrekla ty [22:59]
pankkake perhaps getting a good paying fiat job should be your immediate priority then [22:59]
MarieLynn I am still working fiat contracts. [22:59]
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MarieLynn Difference is people will come to me without effort for fiat jobs but I have to wheel and deal like crazy for bitcoins with 22 year olds... it's not the same market. [23:00]
mike_c well, average in here is definitely > 22. [23:01]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95441.msg6513182#msg6513182 [23:01]
ozbot [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund [23:01]
kakobrekla wonder why he hid his name ? [23:01]
pankkake yes, well; keep the fiat jobs, buy coins / create the right bitcoin market for you [23:01]
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pankkake average on bitcointalk is probably <22 :( [23:01]
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pankkake kakobrekla: Garett McBurger? [23:02]
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bitcoinpete http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/exclusive-pfizer-insider-warns-that-takeover-of-astrazeneca-could-be-devastating-9318884.html << £63 billion. heavy [23:02]
kakobrekla and im John Travolta ? [23:03]
Apocalyptic kako, are you saying you're not ? [23:03]
MarieLynn I have decades of project and staff management experience so I do not expect to work in bitcoin as a developer. Bitcoin needs leadership and guidance for its 22 year old employees!! I have lots of experience developing talent 19-25 [23:03]
kakobrekla no no nevermind i said that Apocalyptic . [23:03]
kakobrekla well MarieLynn get them to write spec [23:04]
bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/MikeyMehedin/status/462309907371655168/photo/1 < [23:06]
ozbot Twitter / MikeyMehedin: @Josh_Wise @dogecoin @reddit ... [23:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.07214738 = 1.5872 BTC [-] {4} [23:06]
kakobrekla isnt nascar like the idiot central [23:07]
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bitcoinpete kakobrekla: a very specific subset of them, southern amuricans [23:08]
pankkake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_and_Stupid [23:08]
ozbot Poor and Stupid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [23:08]
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bitcoinpete more interested in drive-thrus, segregation, and surviving hurricanes than crypto [23:08]
kakobrekla i guess i should watch that. [23:09]
kakobrekla sp episode, not nascar racing. [23:09]
mike_c hmm.. it's always scary when you build something semi-complicated and it just works the first time. [23:11]
mike_c must be missing something.. [23:11]
kakobrekla give it some time to break. [23:11]
pankkake it's never working the first time. you just haven't found where it goes wrong [23:11]
asciilifeform mike_c: obligatory naggumism: [23:12]
asciilifeform http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3141310154691952@naggum.no.html [23:12]
ozbot Re: Is LISP dying? - Naggum cll archive [23:12]
mike_c can naggum say anything in less than 1000 words? [23:13]
asciilifeform mike_c: well, eventually he got down to 0 words. [23:13]
asciilifeform (cheated. kicked usenet habit, a few yrs. before he died) [23:13]
mike_c i agree with naggum in a lot of ways, but i ended up in python instead of lisp. i was just writing a C module for python and it was a brutal reminder of much time and energy is spent making sure i didn't miss dereferencing something in some random error case that would cause a leak, etc. [23:16]
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bitcoinpete "Consider how the Catholic Church might have mitigated some of the deep pain caused by its abusive priests had it acted with the kind of boldness shown by N.B.A. Commissioner Adam Silver. Instead, it chose cover-ups, denial and blame shifting — the usual default modes for institutions trying to protect themselves." << default of institutions that last [23:39]
bitcoinpete http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/opinion/egan-sports-the-most-progressive-force-in-america.html [23:39]
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MarieLynn I am really glad unpaid athletes are getting national attention for their cause. They get tuition but no time to study... dumb... [23:41]
asciilifeform MarieLynn: no time to study << at american unis, there are special fake classes for athletes. with no attendance checks, homework, or exams... [23:42]
MarieLynn I know... [23:42]
asciilifeform their existence in at least one is a proven fact [23:42]
thestringpuller MarieLynn: decades of experience? [23:43]
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thestringpuller you been working since you were 10 or something? [23:43]
pankkake is there anything to learn in college anyway? :) [23:44]
asciilifeform i learned some maths [23:44]
asciilifeform can't speak for others [23:44]
asciilifeform there are also useful things that one can pick up, like the art of working with your head for a week straight without sleep. [23:45]
asciilifeform but it is not strictly necessary to attend college to learn this. [23:45]
MarieLynn 20 years in what I do now [23:46]
pankkake higher education has been a interesting experience, but I could have skipped (and did) most classes [23:46]
MarieLynn I started in Web in 1994, I was only 23. [23:47]
asciilifeform what in web ? [23:48]
MarieLynn Before that I was a tour guide across North America, I started at 18. And a nanny too :) [23:48]
MarieLynn I do everything in Web. I have held all the jobs! [23:48]
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MarieLynn I've dropped out of college TWICE!! [23:50]
MarieLynn But I was in all the committees at college, no time for class. [23:50]
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bitcoinpete college is best used as a dating service [23:51]
bitcoinpete nothing else creates collisions like college does [23:51]
pankkake it made a way more social person, for sure. that and alcohol [23:51]
pankkake +me [23:52]
pankkake MarieLynn: you really do ALL THE THINGS!! [23:52]
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bitcoinpete "You may think that walled-garden access to Facebook or Google is inferior to neutral Internet access—and you’d be right. But if the neutralistas got their way, people in developing countries wouldn’t have better Internet access; many of them would have nothing" [23:56]
bitcoinpete http://theumlaut.com/2014/04/30/how-net-neutrality-hurts-the-poor/ [23:56]
bounce I'm not sure that's a valid premise [23:57]
BingoBoingo %book [23:57]
atcbot 33k@225 23k@224 6k@223 | 2k@170 90k@156 10k@155 [23:57]
bitcoinpete "Net neutrality, in other words, would not only keep the poorest offline, it would keep investment in poor-country telecom infrastructure down for longer." [23:57]
bitcoinpete bounce: it's nonsense [23:57]
bitcoinpete helping the poor with us gov corps isn't helping them at all [23:58]
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